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A
Okay,
the
meeting
will
now
come
to
order.
Welcome
to
the
june
28
2021
city
of
asheville
board
of
adjustments
meeting,
my
name
is
petite
bapta
and
I
am
chair
of
the
board.
Board
of
adjustments
is
a
quasi-judicial
body
that
is
governed
by
the
north
carolina
general
statutes
and
the
city's
unified
development
ordinance.
A
We
are
authorized
to
hear
requests
for
variances
from
the
city's
unified
development.
Ordinance
appeals
from
final
determinations
made
by
city
officials
charged
with
enforcement
of
the
city's
unified,
unified
development,
ordinance
requests
for
reasonable
accommodations
and
other
requests,
as
may
be
provided
in
the
city's
ordinances.
A
A
A
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
the
committee
members
who
are
participating
virtually
please
make
sure
to
meet
your
microphone.
If
you
are
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
unmute
your
microphone,
please
remember
to
meet
your
phone
after
you
are
done.
Speaking
committee
members,
as
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello,
john
michael
cletus,
hello,
suzanne,
godsey.
B
A
I'd
also
ask
that
anyone
speaking
today,
including
staff,
to
state
their
names
and
titles
for
the
record
before
speaking,
okay
to
our
agenda,
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
state
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
and
do
a
vocal
roll
call
for
each
vote.
Additionally,
I
ask
that
committee
members
raise
their
hand
to
speak
and
I
will
call
upon
them.
A
John
michael
cletus,
all
right,
suzanne,
godsey,
aye,
bill,
newman,
paul
wozinski,
all
right
and
that's
I
from
pratik
bhakta
minutes,
are
approved
now
we'll
begin
our
general
introduction
to
the
quasi-judicial
decisions.
We
will
now
begin.
The
evidentiary
hearings
for
the
case
listed
case
listed
on
the
agenda
in
hearing
cases,
the
board
conducts
a
quasi-judicial
evidentiary
hearing.
That
means
it
is
like
a
court
hearing.
State
law
sets
specific
procedures
and
rules
concerning
how
this
board
must
takes
must
make
its
decisions.
A
A
The
board
hears
and
considers
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
applies
a
standard
set
forth
in
state
law
and
the
city's
ordinance.
The
board
must
base
its
decision
upon
competent
material
and
substantial
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing.
If
you
will
be
speaking
as
a
witness,
please
focus
on
the
facts
and
standards,
not
personal
preference
or
opinions
is
limited.
The
meeting
is
open
to
the
public.
Everyone
is
welcome
to
watch
parties
have
rights
to
participate
fully
parties
may
present
evidence
called
witnesses.
A
A
B
A
Okay,
our
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
from
the
petitioner
peter
chaper,
and
I'm
sorry
if
I
mutilated
that
name,
it's
requesting
a
variance
to
the
development
standard
found
in
section
7-13-1
c
b,
1
on-premises
science,
multiple
tenant
development
of
the
udo,
the
petitioner
is
seeking
to
classify
the
existing
sign
attacks
as
part
of
the
facade
as
exempt
under
7-13-2
c-11,
to
facilitate
the
installment
of
a
new
sign
for
property,
located
at
14
o'hanory
avenue
and
identified
in
buncombe
county
tax
record.
B
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
everyone.
I
am
chris
collins,
I'm
the
division
manager
of
the
planning
and
development
division
of
the
city's
development
services
department
here
today
on
behalf
of
ricky
hurley,
who
is
actually
taking
some
vacation
time.
So
I
will
share
my
screen
and
take
you
through
the
request.
That's
in
front
of
you.
B
B
B
B
B
B
If
that
sign,
the
assignment
is
being
proposed
to
go
on
the
building.
The
new
sign
is
what
you
see
there
to
the
left
of
the
existing
citizen
times,
sign
that
says:
citizen
vinyl
by
calculations,
that
sign
appears
to
be
about
51.5
square
feet,
and
the
maximum
allowance
in
the
district
is
75
square
feet.
So
if
the
existing
sign
were
to
be
classified
as
exempt
per
the
request,
the
proposed
sign
would
be
within
the
allowances
of
the
udo.
B
Another
picture
of
the
sign
placement,
as
provided
by
the
applicant
and
the
application
itself,
just
a
couple
of
facts
before
I
in
my
initial
presentation.
We
do
know
that
the
building
itself
was
built
in
1939.
We
don't
have
an
exact
record
on
when
the
sign
was
installed,
but
certainly
before
1990
as
the
regulation
states.
B
As
staff,
I
don't
think
staff
felt
that
they
could
classify
this
at
their
level
as
meeting
that
regulation
as
it
is
advertising
a
currently
operating
tenant
within
the
building
and
the
staff
report
states.
Some
other
well-known
nearby
examples
of
this
that
do
not
advertise
the
currently
existing
senate
were
the
s
w
cafeteria,
although
that
might
have
that,
might
be
a
little
messier.
Now,
the
crest
building
or
the
sawyer
motor
company
building.
B
A
B
B
Right
because
they
are
not
advertising
existing
tenants
got
it
thanks.
A
And
chris
I
see
on
picture
number
five
of
the
placement
on
building
that
there
is
signage
for
the
the
multiple
tenants
that
are
in
that
building.
Is
that
correct
right?
There.
B
Hang
on
a
second
sorry,
I
got.
I
got
mixed
up
on
my
tabs
there
for
a
second
yeah.
There
are.
There
is
nothing
for
the
multiple
tenants
on
the
on
the
glass
that
you're
referring
to
yes,
yes,
yeah
and
then
that
does
come
from
they're
allowed
to
have
kind
of
a
directory
signage
for
black
butterworth.
B
The
the
maximum
allowance
would
be
the
75
square
feet.
I
don't
think
that
no
precedent
would
be
set
by
issuing
this
by
authorizing
this
variance
in
regard
to
that
number.
So
I
believe
yes,
that
a
combined
sign
that
did
not
exceed
that
75
square
foot
maximum
would
be
okay
under
this,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
think
any
decision
here
would
affect
that.
75
square
foot,
maximum.
B
Is
there
a
potential
to
do
it
that
I
I
guess
they
could
definitely
could
be
done,
but
with
the
you
know,
somewhat
historical
nature
of
that
sign.
I
think
that's
not
the
desired
outcome.
Okay,.
E
If,
if
I
can
add
something
peter
shaper
from
citizen
reiner,
I'm
the
vice
president
operation,
the
two
other
companies
that
you're
going
to
see
session
and
coda-
these
are
part
of
citizen
vinyl,
so
that
all
will
be
covered
with
one
logo
vinyl
as
a
holding
for
a
session.
This
is
our
restaurant
in
koda,
which
is
our
record
store,
so
that
is
all
part
of
citizen
environment
and
to
answer
your
other
question
from
from
our
perspective,
even
if
the
citizen
times
employees
or
the
citizen
times,
attendance
is
smaller
as
we
are.
A
No
okay,
I'll
close
that
part
of
the
even
interior
hearing
and
open
it
up
to
the
petitioner.
E
Yeah,
the
petitioner
would
be
peter
shaper.
I
believe
it's
pretty
much
all
said.
We
invested
around
three
million
dollar
for
the
manufacturing
part,
which
is
going
to
make
final
records
and
also
the
restaurant
and
the
record
store,
but
even
in
these
times,
to
make
to
make
aware
that
we
are
in
this
building,
especially
for
for
people
out
of
town,
we
need
a
bigger
signage
that
people
are
going
to
see.
E
There
is
something,
unfortunately,
a
lot
of
people
still
see
this
at
the
newspaper
building
and
people
going
to
pass
our
our
restaurant,
especially
and
after
covert
time
that
that
is
our
biggest
pain,
that
we
need
to
attract
more
people
to
keep
the
whole
system
going,
and
that
is
the
reason
why
we
would
like
to
bring
the
sign
up
that
show
people
we
are
here,
even
when
people
are
gonna,
google
or
instagram
facebook
that
they're
gonna
see
was
the
first
view
that
we
are
part
tending
of
this
building
and
if
you
would
take
the
75
square
feet,
rule
there's
about
50
square
feet,
which
goes
for
the
citizen
time.
F
Just
to
add
to
that
my
name
is
gar
raglan,
I'm
the
ceo
of
citizen
vinyl.
We
are
faced
with
the
challenge
of
educating
the
public
that
this
building,
which
has
been
private
since
its
completion
in
1939.
We
have
the
added
challenge
of
as
peter
mentioned,
educating
people
that
we
exist.
There's
there's
really
nothing
on
the
front
of
the
building
that
that
suggests
that
there
is
a
public
business
within
the
within
the
building,
and
now
we
are
the
building's
largest
tenant
and
the
citizen
vinyl
the
citizen
times.
F
Staff
is
located
in
a
suite
on
the
second
floor
and
you
know
we.
We
definitely
want
to
honor
the
history
of
the
building
and
celebrate
the
fact
and
refer
to
the
building
as
the
asheville
citizen
times
we're
just
in
in
great
need
of
of
increasing
our
businesses,
visibility
on
this
on
the
front
of
the
building
and
helping
to
educate
people
about
our
existence
there
and
to
do
so
in
a
tasteful
way.
That's
complementary
to
the
existing.
A
F
Just
one
other
comment
to
make
too
one
consideration
is,
if
I
understand
correctly,
the
technicality
is
that
the
the
the
tenants
of
the
citizen
times
are
still
located
in
the
building.
The
the
future
of
that
is
is
uncertain
at
this
time.
For
how
much
longer
the
citizen
time
staff
will
be
located
here.
F
Sadly,
I
think
that's
the
fate
of
local
newspapers,
but
if
that's
a
consideration
in
terms
of
the
the
reasons
and
justification
for
how
to
classify
the
existing
signage
wanted
just
to
to
share
that
information
as
well
that
that
there
is
an
indefinite
amount
of
time
uncertain
amount
of
time
in
the
into
the
future.
How
much
longer
the
citizen
time
staff
will
actually
be
located
in
this
building.
G
Hi,
this
is
brown,
I'm
sorry,
I
keep
getting
dropped
off
the
call,
and
so
I
wanted,
if
I
could
give
just
a
few
words
about
the
signage
as
well,
and
everybody
hear
me:
okay,
yeah,
okay,
great
yeah,
so
I
think
I
missed
some
of
this,
but
you
know:
citizen
vinyl
is
now
the
largest
tent
in
the
building.
Obviously
we
all
know:
citizen
times
was
the
original
tenant
of
the
building
they've
been
there
since
then
they
had
manufacturing.
They
had
production
in
the
facility.
G
Now
they're
only
you
know
in
a
small
office
space
on
the
second
floor
and
in
general
you
know
a
lot
of
these
buildings
like
this
that
have
that
have
sorts
large
signage
on
the
front
of
them.
The
largest
tenant
will
get
some
sort
of
like
signage
rights.
G
So
technically
you
know
we
we
potentially
could
remove
the
asheville
citizen
times
and
and
just
put
the
citizen
vinyl
sign
on
there,
and
especially
after
they
vacated
the
building.
But
we
we
like
the
design
that
citizen
vinyl
came
up
with
on
this
and
we
really
wanted
to
since
the
newspaper's
been
there
for
so
long,
and
everybody
knows
it
as
that.
Building
and
when
you
look
at
it,
it
is
an
original
sign
and
to
me
it
has
some
historic
significance.
G
I
thought
what
they
did
was
a
great
way
to
sort
of
embrace
the
future,
with
what
they're
doing
in
the
building,
but
also
not
forget
the
past,
and
so
the
the
two
signs
together
sort
of
meld
well
together,
and
I
don't
think
it's
really
overwhelming
the
marquee
or
the
front
of
the
building,
or
anything
like
that.
So
you
know,
as
owners
were
definitely
in
front
of
it,
there
would
never
be
any
sort
of
larger
multi-tenant
signage
on
there.
G
I
know
that
was
a
question
earlier,
because
this
is
this
is
specifically
for
you
know
the
the
large
ten
in
the
building,
and
in
this
case
you
know
we're
also
sort
of
keeping
the
historic
nature
of
the
the
existing.
A
Okay,
I'll
close
that
part
of
the
hearing
and
open
it
up
for
public
comments.
C
This
is
paul,
but
I
was
thinking
about
just
a
little
bit
before
the
meeting
it
occurred
to
me
as
as
the
last
caller
mentioned,
the
citizen
times
to
me
represents
the
the
past
and
part
of
the
future
of
that
building
and
citizen
vinyl
represents
I'm
sorry.
C
Let
me
try
that
again,
they
represent
the
past
and
part
of
the
present
in
that
building
and
citizen
vinyl
represents
an
increasing
part
of
the
present
and
the
future
of
the
building,
and
I
think
I
I
am
in
favor
of
approving
things
which
speak
to
the
future
of
asheville.
So
I'm
in
favor
of
granting
this
request.
H
I
may
agree
with
paul
with
his
sentiments.
My
only
concern
would
be
a
precedent
setting
issue
if
we're
going
to
somehow
create
a
precedent
with
this
with
other
signs
and
other
buildings.
I
also
I
don't
know
if
I'm
able
to
ask
a
question,
but
was
there
other
options
considered?
H
Are
there
other
options
to
consider
for
other
signage
or
larger
signage?
Besides,
the
placement
of
this
are.
You
are.
E
It
is
so
we
had
about
two
or
three
people.
Our
company
is
going
to
show
what
kind
of
victory
signage
we
could
have.
But
everybody
comes
back
and
you
have
this
sign
over
over
the
entrance
and
whatever
you're
gonna
do.
You
would
add
another
space.
E
So
that
is
the
reason
why
we
finally
came
up
and
try
to
get
our
sign
into
this
gallery,
which
is
or
this
mezzanine,
which
is
which
is
above
the
entrance
to
keep
it
all
nicely
together
and
have
a
good
view.
H
B
So
the
building
is,
as
I
said,
under
the
udo
limited
to
one
attached
sign
with
a
maximum
75
square
feet
so
right
now
they
would
the
unless
the
citizen
times
signed
as
exempted.
The
only
way
to
put
a
new
sign
up
would
be
to
remove
the
citizen
time
sign.
A
So
my
question-
I
have
a
question
to
that
follow-up.
Is
the
existing
sign
marked
as
a
historical
sign,
or
is
that
just
a
you
know
a
a
perceived
historical
value.
B
I
don't
know
that
there's
any
official
designation
on
it
as
staff
when
we
looked
at
it.
We
looked
at
that
that
code
section
that
I
read
to
you
inside
it,
which
talks
about
how
the
signs
work
and
and
again
we
felt
the
the
one
thing
that
kept
it
from
being
in
there
was
was
that
tenant?
That's
there.
I
think
eric
edgerton,
the
assistant
city
attorney's
with
us,
and
he
goes
to
same
team
and
have
some
info.
I
Yeah,
but
just
to
clarify
that
a
bit
further,
mr
chair,
I
think
that
there's
there's
two
different
ways
that
you
can
have
historically
exempt
signage,
there's
a
provision
in
seven
thirteen,
two
that
would
allow
for
the
city
council
to
specifically
designate
a
sign
as
historic
and
then
there's
this
separate
section
that
chris
has
outlined
for
you
that
relates
to
signage
in
place
before
I
believe
1990,
and
I
think,
there's
a
certainly
a
an
argument
that
could
be
made
that
this
could
qualify
within
that
categorization
as
historical.
I
But
what
staff
is
is
indicating
to
the
board.
Is
that
because
there's
still
the
one
active
tenant
in
the
building
who
that
sign
relates
to?
We
didn't
feel
that
unilaterally
staff
could
make
the
decision
of
labeling
it
as
historic
definitively
and
avoid
bringing
this
to
the
board
so
that
so,
though,
there's
there
is
certainly
an
argument
that
it
is
historic.
That's
not
something
that
staff
felt
they
could
unilaterally
determine
on
their
own,
which
is
why
we're
here
before
the
board,
seeking
a
determination
as
to
whether
this
sign
should
be
counted
towards
the
allowance.
G
G
Yes,
yes,
based
on
its
the
materials
and
the
fabrication
aspect
of
it,.
D
A
No,
my
thought
is,
you
know
I
I'm
having
a
hard
time
trying
to
figure
out
on
the
four
rules
that
we
have,
and
that
is
unnecessary
hardship
would
result
from
a
strict
application
of
this
ordinance.
A
That's
that's
a
toughie
for
me.
The
hardships
results
from
the
condition
that
that
are
peculiar
to
the
property,
such
as
location,
size
or
topography,
hardship
did
not
result
from
actions
taken
by
the
applicant
or
the
property
owner.
The
request
for
variance
is
consistent
with
the
spirit
purpose.
I
think
several
of
those
are
are
valid.
I
I'm
having
a
hard
time
understanding
where
the
unnecessary
hardship
would
result
from
a
strict
application
of
the
ordinance.
A
You
know
the
the
idea
that
we
we
have
an
existing
signage
that
could
potentially
be
you
know,
changed
to
a
newer
signage
or
or
vice
versa,
is,
is
something
that
I'm
having
a
tough
time,
especially
since
staff
has
made
the
determination
that
this
would
not
be
considered
a
you
know
by
them.
To
be
sorry,
it
would
be
counted
as
a
sign
for
that
building,
so
that
that
to
me
just
it's
not
proving
that
hardship.
C
Mr
bacter,
can
I
make
a
comment?
Yes,
sir,
every
once
in
a
while,
I
go
back
to
something
that
mr
edgerton
has
said
a
few
times
and
if
I'm
interpreting
what
he
said
correctly,
we
can
look
at
more
than
just
those
four
questions
we
we
were
allowed
to
look
at
the
totality
of
the
issue.
C
I
Mr
wilson
I'll
add
that
I
think
that
the
what
I've
probably
told
this
board
more
than
anything
else,
is
that
typically,
economic
hardship
alone
is
insufficient
to
warrant
the
issuance
of
a
variance.
However,
the
case
law
tells
us
that
economic
hardship
when
coupled
with
something
else,
some
other
considerations
which
the
court
doesn't
really
go
into
detail
on.
What
those
might
be
would
be
sufficient.
I
So
here
the
applicant
is
indicating
that
there's
economic
hardship
due
to
the
lack
of
advertising,
and
so
if
the
board
finds
that
there
are
other
factors
worthy
of
consideration,
that
further
bolster
their
request
for
a
variance.
Then
then,
yes,
a
variant
could
properly
issue.
In
this
instance,
I
think
the
the
weight
of
the
evidence
is
relating
towards
the
purpose
of
the
ordinance,
which
is
to
preserve
and
exempt
these
sorts
of
purely
historical
signage.
I
I
So
in
this
instance,
the
ordinance
tries
to
exempt
those
types
of
signage,
but
in
this
case
there
is
still
that
tenant
in
the
building,
at
least
for
the
time
being
to
which
it
relates,
and
so
on
that
basis,
staff
didn't
feel
his
property
unilaterally
determined
that
it
is
historic,
but
they
also
haven't
ruled
out
the
propriety
of
that
sort
of
determination.
So
the
board
were
to
reach
that
finding
staff
hasn't
done
anything
to
contradict
that.
So
we
really
are
leaving
it
in
your
hands.
H
If
I
could
throw
a
comment,
I
I
feel
the
sign
is
historic.
I
mean
that's
the
the
way
I'd
like
to
issue
my
opinion
on
this,
but
I'm
just
confused.
How,
if
I
feel
that
sign
is
historic,
would
I
be
approving
this
so
that
they
preserve
it?
I'm
just
confused
how
they're
asking
for
a
sign,
but
you
guys
are
asking
if
we're
seeing
if
this
is
historic.
So
what
are
we
actually,
please
clarify
for
me
and
I
apologize
for
my
confusion.
H
I
There
are
two
ways
that
the
board
could
go
on
this,
so
one
if
you
find
that
that
what
the
evidence
before
you
indicates
is
that
this
is
a
that,
the
citizen
time
signage
is
historic
within
the
definition
or
within
the
way.
That
term
is
used
in
seven
thirteen.
Two,
then,
then,
in
that
case
we
could,
at
the
end,
at
the
staff
level
administratively
determine
that.
I
Yes,
the
board's
determination
on
this
is
correct
and
therefore
find
that
this
new
signage
would
be
the
sole
signage
counting
against
their
square
footage
requirements,
and
in
that
case
there
would
not
need
to
be
the
issuance
of
variance,
or
it
tells
us
that
that's
the
way
it's
leaning
staff
could
then
say
that
in
that
case
we
can
issue
the
permit
for
installing
this
new
signage
under
the
understanding
that
the
citizen
time
signage
should
not
count,
because
in
that
way
the
board's
indicated
what
its
view
is
on
on
how
that
signage
should
be
categorized.
I
The
other
way
of
doing
this
is
just
simply
by
saying
that,
well
for
purposes
of
the
variance,
we
have
to
consider
the
purpose
of
the
ordinance
and
we
find
that
because
the
purpose
of
the
ordinance
is
to
exempt
historic
signage,
that
argues
in
favor
of
the
issuance
of
variance
and
therefore
issue
a
variance
in
that
basis.
So
you
could
do
either
of
those
two
things
would
be
telling
staff
we
agree.
I
H
I'm
leaning
towards
the
former
of
designating
this
as
historic
and
letting
the
staff.
If
that
way,
we
don't
have
to
do
a
variance
and
the
staff
can
just
that's
that's
where
I'm.
A
Leaning
my
thoughts
on
that
is,
you
know,
I
don't
think
the
board.
The
board
would
have
an
opinion
on
that,
but
I
don't
think
we're
the
proper
body
to
designate
a
sign.
As
a
historic
I
mean
there,
there
are
historic
commissions
out
there
that
would
be
able
to
do
that.
That
kind
of
work
and
come
back
to
us
and
say
yes,
that
is
a
historic
sign,
in
which
case
they
would
not
have
to
theoretically
bring
that
to
us
for
a
you
know.
Various
requests
is
that
possible.
I
However,
with
respect
to
the
interpretation
of
the
way
that
historic
signage
is
being
used
within
this
specific
ordinance
provision,
it's
a
bit
different
than
say
taking
something
to
the
historic
resources
commission.
But
if
what
you
are
indicating
to
us
is
that
you
believe
this
should
be
properly
classified
as
a
historic
sign.
That's
significant
in
so
far
as
if
the.
If
city
staff
were
to
see
this
sign
separately
issue
a
notice
of
violation,
saying
you've
gone
above
your
signage
limit,
then
that
dispute
would
come
to
this
same
board.
I
So
if
you've
already
told
us
that
this
is
a
historic
sign
and
should
not
be
counted
towards
the
limit,
we
will
then
know
to
treat
it
as
such
and
not
take
any
sort
of
enforcement
action
from
here
on
so
to
have
your
opinion
on
that
issue
is
in
fact
determinative.
Even
though
you
won't
have
to
take
any
formal
action.
A
D
Can
I
say
a
few
things:
please:
does
anybody
know
how
this
sign
this
asheville
citizen
times
is
attached
to
the
building?
It
looks
pretty
integral
to
the
windows
and
it
just
seems
like,
although
it's
not
you
know,
architectural
precast
engraved
and
some
you
know
granite
or
limestone,
or
something
like
that.
You
know
it's
still
pretty
integral
to
the
to
this
building.
D
I
feel
like
it's
always
going
to
be
called
the
asheville
citizen
times,
building
no
matter
what
I
think
it
is
historic,
and
you
know
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
alex
cole
is
the
staff
person
that
leads
the
historic
resources
commission.
So
she
she
knows
what
she's
talking
about.
If
she
says
it's
historic,
it's
probably
a
contributing
structure
downtown.
D
E
Well
answer
your
question:
pretty
quick,
so
there's
this
kind
of
usa
metal,
which
is
mounted
into
the
sandstone
and
each
ladder
is,
is
mounted
with
several
screws
and
rivets
into
this
metal
bar
mounted.
G
Yeah
and
nick
brown-
I'll
just
you
know
in
alex
alex's
email
here.
She
just
stated
that
this
building
is
a
contributing
building
in
the
downtown
national
register
district.
I
think
the
sign
would
fall
under
11,
since
it's
definitely
part
of
the
facade
of
the
building
which
was
built
around
1938-39.
So.
A
B
B
A
All
right,
I'm
looking
for
a
motion.
C
Yeah
this
is
paul
I'll,
make
a
motion,
and
I
will
ask
mr
edgerton
to
approve
the
wording
of
this
motion
because
I've
never
made
a
motion
that
sounds
like
this.
I
That
that
that
sounds
good,
mr
wolinski
I'll
just
maybe
add,
with
your
blessing
just
the
further
language
of
defined
by
section
7
13
211
of
the
city's
uniform
development
ordinance.
A
Okay,
motion
stated
and
revised:
do
I
have
a
second
I'll?
Second?
Can
you
have
a
second
any
further
discussions?
A
No
okay
to
get
to
a
vote.
John
cletus,
hi,
suzanne,
gotzi,.
D
A
And
I
believe
that
is
all
for
the
agenda
items
and
we
have
nothing
further,
I'm
looking.
If
there
are
no
objections,
we
will
join
the
meeting
any
objections
if
there
are
none.
This
meeting
is
adjourned.