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A
All
right
good
afternoon,
everyone
I'm
chair
anna
sexton,
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
june
28
2021
neighborhood
advisory
committee
virtual
meeting.
We
will
now
call
our
meeting
to
order.
The
committee
consists
of
nine
members
all
appointed
by
the
city
council,
with
representation
from
specific
community
sectors.
A
Members
shall
be
residents
of
the
city
or
the
city's
extra-territorial
zoning
jurisdiction
and
shall
reflect
the
socio-economic
diversity
of
asheville.
The
term
of
office
is
three
years.
The
city
was
excuse
me.
This
committee
was
established
to
advise
the
city
council
on
neighborhoods
within
the
city
of
asheville
zoning
and
planning
jurisdiction.
A
The
committee
shall
have
the
following
powers
and
duties:
one
develop
rules
and
bylaws
for
the
conduct
of
its
business,
including,
but
not
limited,
to
meeting
schedules.
Officers
voting
and
subcommittees
two
develop
a
plan
to
strengthen
neighborhood
identity
and
resilience
and
to
facilitate
communication
and
cooperation
between
asheville's,
neighborhoods
and
city
offices.
A
A
A
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
community
members
and
staff
who
are
participating
virtually
and
for
committee
members.
Please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you
are
not
speaking
and
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak,
click
the
raise
hand
icon
and
when
recognized
unmute
your
microphone,
please
remember
to
mute
your
phone
after
you
are
done
speaking
and
avoid
communicating
via
the
chat
function.
A
A
So
moving
on
to
the
next
person
in
attendance,
peter
abzug,.
A
A
Great
and
then
I
saw
jp
before
the
meeting
went
live
today.
He
is
our
newest
neighborhood
advisory
committee
member
and
begins
his
term
in
july.
He
will
represent
28801
and
jp
just
want
to
I'm
not
going
to
make
you
introduce
yourself
or
anything
like
that,
but
just
want
to
say
hello
and
thank
you
for
joining
today
and
you'll
get
a
feel
for
how
our
meetings
run.
Jp
chilarka,
our
city
council
liaison,
is
kim
rony.
A
He's
the
neighborhood
services
specialist
with
the
city
all
right
and
then
to
start
the
committee
agenda
items
I'll
I'll
note
each
section
of
our
agenda
aloud
so
that
the
audience
can
follow
along
and
just
a
reminder
for
committee
members
to
please
click
the
raise
your
hand
icon
and
be
recognized
to
speak.
Please
state
your
name
each
time.
You
comment
and
just
a
reminder
that
this
this
helps
folks
who
are
listening
in
and
may
not
be
able
to
see
on
the
screen.
What's
happening.
A
First
off,
we
I'll
run
through
our
agenda
this
evening
and
we
will
go
through
the
approval
of
our
may
meeting
minutes.
We'll
do
that
first
and
then
I'll
run
through
today's
meeting
agenda.
So
has
everyone
had
an
opportunity
to
review
the
meeting
minutes
from
our
may
24th
2021
knack
meeting?
A
And
if
so,
there
are
no
questions
I'll
entertain.
A
motion
to
approve
those
minutes
go.
A
Thank
you.
Do
you
have
a
second?
Oh
second,
sharon
sumrall
thanks
sharon,
all
right,
so
I'll,
go
ahead
and
run
through
roll
call
for
just
a
second,
so
I'll
make
sure
I'm
not
missing
anyone.
Anna
sexton
go
ahead
and
record
for
I
peter
abzug.
B
B
B
A
And
wendy
hayner
hi
great.
Thank
you.
The
motion
carries
all
right
so
now
I'll
go
through
and
review
today's
agenda
today
we
have
not
received
any
public
comments
in
advance
of
the
meeting,
but
we
will
receive
staff
activities
and
updates
from
brendan
mills.
A
Our
unfinished
business
is
to
review
and
hopefully
adopt
our
neck
bylaw
revisions
and
also
the
approval
of
our
fiscal
year.
2022
work
plan
we'll
also
discuss
board
and
committee
vacancies
specific
to
knack
and
then
receive
an
update
on
the
neighborhood
hero
working
group,
as
well
as
a
staff
presentation
on
the
city's
noise
ordinance
amendments.
A
We'll
also
receive
updates
from
nac
members
on
other
subcommittees
or
excuse
me
other
committees
that
they
they
serve
on.
So
give
me
just
a
second
here:
my
agenda
went
blank
and
then
we
will
also
entertain
live
public
comment
at
this
meeting,
so
that
will
wrap
up
our
our
june
meeting.
So
with
that
said,
we
will
move
on
to
staff
activities
and
updates
from
brenda.
E
Yeah,
the
title
of
the
agenda
is
neighborhood
advisory
committee
retreat.
I
think
that
needs
to
just
be
neighborhood
advisory
committee
without
retreat,
because
I
think
the
retreat
was
two
months
ago.
G
I
actually
thought
I
took
it
off,
but
I
must
have
grabbed
an
old
copy.
Thank
you,
joe
good
catch
thanks
joe
okay,
so
I
have
just
two
major
updates
number
one.
Our
boards
and
commissions
are
going
back
in
person
in
july.
We
will
start
with
the
quasi-judicial
boards
plan
and
zoning
historic
resources
board
of
adjustment.
G
Nat
will
go
back
to
in
person
in
august,
I'm
still
waiting
to
hear
from
the
development
services
now
overseas,
the
board
of
adjustment
and
I'm
waiting
to
hear
back
from
the
liaison
ricky
hurley
he's
on
vacation.
G
I'm
not
sure
if
your
meetings
will
be
at
5,
00
or
5
30,
but
I'll.
Let
you
know
as
soon
as
we
return
back
from
the
holidays
and
so
you'll
be
prepared
for
august,
but
we
don't
do
that
till
august.
So
we
got
plenty
of
time.
We
did
get
approval
for
the
neighborhood
grants
to
be
issued.
Jeremy-
and
I
will
be
meeting
this
week,
then
we'll
be
getting
with
our
director
and
some
other
city
staff
to
kind
of
talk
about
our
procedures
around
that
and
I'll
have
some
updates
for
you
guys
in
july.
G
So
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
are
really
anticipating
it.
We're
really
excited
about
it
really
just
want
to
really
think
about
it
and
what
it
means,
and
also
I
attended
cannes
coalition
asheville
neighborhoods
meeting
last
thursday
to
talk
about
keeping
neighborhoods
organized.
G
It
was
really
good
because
I
had
just
met
with
oakley
midday
for
lunch
and
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
we
talked
about
is,
if
you
all
remember,
I'm
sure
you
don't,
but
we
have
154
155
neighborhoods
that
are
recognized
in
asheville
and
only
about
50
of
them
are
registered
and
so
really
going
to
make
some
major
efforts
to
look
at
encouraging
people
to
register
and
registration
is
not
difficult.
G
We
don't
require
anything
other
than
an
application
that
your
boundaries
don't
intersect
with
other
neighborhood
boundaries
and
yeah,
but
during
that
meeting
two
of
the
people,
two
other
neighborhoods
that
I
didn't
have
contacts
for.
I
now
have
contacts
for
so
that
was
that
was
good.
So
I
want
to
encourage
you,
as
you
can,
for
the
general
meeting
of
coalition
to
ask
the
neighborhood
would
be
great
to
kind
of
check
in
there
and
see
what
they're
doing
you
know.
G
A
Thanks
brenda
joe,
I
saw
your
hand
just
I'll
acknowledge
that
in
just
a
second
I
have
a
quick
question
around
the
the
neighborhood
grants,
those
I
guess
sort
of
like
the
application
process
or
procedures
go
out
or
are
finalized.
G
When
I
come
back
in
july
to
give
you
a
report
on
the
process
I'll
talk
about
that,
then
we're
going
to
use
everything
from
social
media
to
next
door,
to
I'm
hoping
that
you
guys
will
be
a
great
way
for
you
guys
to
reach
out
to
your
respective
regions,
about
the
neighborhood
grants
and
also
we'll
probably
more
than
likely
as
we
get
them.
You
know,
I,
I
don't
think
it's
a
one
and
done
I'm
thinking.
People
just
apply
all
during
the
year
until
we
don't
have
funding
or
you
know.
G
I
want
to
ask
that
question,
because
people
may
not
have
anything
right
now,
but
they
may
have
something
later,
so
I
don't
want
to
rush
people
into
asking
for
money
when
they
don't
need
it
right
now,
so
we've
got
to
make
a
lot
of
you
know
decisions
and
we
don't
want
to
make
it
difficult.
I
know
with
the
racial
healing
grants
they
use
a
google
form
and
we're
thinking
about
the
same
thing.
G
You
know
don't
make
it
difficult,
but
we
do
need
to
decide
if,
if
you're
not
a
registered
neighborhood,
so
that's
something
you
know
we
need
to
put
in
the
work
so
I'll
be
back
to
talk
it
through
with
you
guys
and
get
some
approval
from
you
guys.
Thank
you
for
the
quick
question.
A
Thanks
brenda
joe,
please
go
ahead.
E
Yeah
brenda
I'm
wondering
where
you
got
the
number
155
neighborhoods.
I
remember
asking
oh
a
year
and
a
half
ago
before
covid,
what
percentage
of
registered
I'm
sorry
of
residential,
neighborhoods
or
residential
properties
were
not
in
registered
neighborhoods
organized
neighborhoods
and
I
never
got
a
response
to
that
and
we've
got
we've
seen
the
map
and
there's
like
75
neighborhoods
that
cover
most
of
the
city.
Can
you
tell
me
where
the
155
number
came
from.
G
The
155
comes
from
next
door;
it
it
records
the
what
is
it
the
ml?
Whatever
that
you
know,
I'm
talking
about
the
real
estate
term.
It
covers
that,
but
all
of
the
neighborhoods
that
are
within
the
asheville
city
limits
are
registered
on
next
door.
They
have
all
of
those
officially,
so
that's
kind
of
what
I'll
go
from
and
there
there's
a
name
for
all
of
them.
So
we'll
we've
been
reaching
out
to
those
folks
as
well.
The
information
that
you
asked
for
got.
I
don't
remember
what
time
of
year.
G
D
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
correct
area
to
interject
something
or
whether
it's
should
go
into
new
business,
but
real
quick.
I
attended
the
three
reparations
meetings
and
I
attended
the
budget
meeting
and
what
I
found
from
attending
those
three
four
meetings
is
that
we
have
some
very
unhappy
neighborhoods
very
unhappy.
D
In
fact,
I
was
distressed
to
see
how
unhappy
that
some
of
our
neighborhoods
are
and
they're
unhappy
over
policing
increase
in
taxes
and
what
they're
calling
back
room
dealings
and
I'm
wanting
to
open
up
a
good
line
of
communication
with
council
and
regarding
these
issues
and
what
knack,
if
knack,
is
going
to
take
a
course
of
action
to
advise
council
and
how
we.
I
know
this
is
going
to
be
a
long
process,
but
it
hasn't
been.
D
We
haven't
been
talking
about
it
and
I
kind
of
want
to
talk
about
it
so
and
what
can
knack
offer
to
the
larger
group?
And
do
we
just
add
this
to
agenda
items?
And
I
know
we're
going
to
be
meeting
in
future
and
in
person,
and
I
think
this
will
be
easier
discussions
in
person
than
it's
going
to
be
over
zoom.
But
I'm
of
the
strong
opinion
that
we
need
to
discuss
this
somehow
and
and
coordinate,
and
I'm
not
sure
how
to
do
it
so
that
we
can.
D
We
can
advise
council
on
what
we
think
the
neighborhoods
appropriate
response
is,
but
I
was
personally
distressed
at
how
unhappy
so
many
people
are
at
this
point
in
time
in
our
neighborhoods.
G
Or
I
will
we
cannot
discuss
it
tonight
because
we
did
not
notice
the
discussion,
but
we
definitely
can
put
it
on
a
future
agenda
item
and
when
you
say
distress,
you've
got
to
make
a
differentiation
between.
Is
it
the
stress
because
of
gentrification
and
those
issues,
or
is
it
what's
general
to
all
neighborhoods?
So
it
would
be
it'd
be
great.
If
you
could
give
us
that
information.
G
For
years,
but
was
it
because
of
reparations
or
and
it
it
really
doesn't
make
a
difference?
I
guess
the
city
itself
will
be
dealing
with
this.
There's
more
outreach
going
to
be
done,
so
I
think
you
you
guys
will
have
if
you
want
to.
You
can
have
a
role
in
helping
with
the
outreach
that
we
do.
I
think
that
would
be
great
we're
going
to
be
hearing
more
stories.
G
The
task
force,
I
think,
we're
within
a
couple
of
weeks
of
hiring
an
equity
officer.
So
a
lot
of
things
are
coming
online
and
you
guys
can
certainly
be
a
part
of
that.
D
Yeah,
I
think
I
mean
I
know
the
of
the
inequities.
I
mean
that's
obvious,
but
how
much
and
how
much
anger
is
what
surprised
me
and
I
think
it's
just
a
coalesced.
We
got
to
speak
in
public
and
as
opposed
to
being
sequestered,
and
they
were
all
together
and
the
young
people
came
out
and
what
I
have
not
heard
is
people
of
my
age
group
or
brenda
of
your
age
group
talking
about
their
feelings
and
what
their
neighborhood
looks
like
at
their
age.
D
I
know
how
the
younger
people
feel
now
and
the
reparations
was
excellent.
It
was
well
done
and
I
and
I
believe
we
have
a
role
somewhere
in
knack.
I
just
don't
know
how
we
have
it,
so
I
wanted
to
throw
it
out
there
and
I
can
work
with
anna
on
how
to
get
that
on
the
agenda,
and
then
you
can
advise
on
how
that
gets
presented.
I
suppose,
is
what
I'm
looking
for.
A
That's,
I
think,
that's
a
great
point
brenda.
I
think
my
question
would
be
just
from
a
staff
perspective
being
a
little
bit
more
plugged
in
in
the
know,
if
we're
looking
at
potentially
adding
items
to
future
agendas
or
getting
staff
updates
on
various
initiatives
or
new
hirings
like
what
are
some
of
the
ways
where
that
that
you
see
potential
agenda
items
forming
for
for
knack
and
how
we
could
be
best
of
service
to
the
neighborhoods
through
that.
G
So
this
is
brenda
again,
you
have
a
work
plan.
So
that's
that's.
That's
the
main
way
you're
going
to
get
agenda
items
and
then
it's
as
you
see
a
need.
You
know
anna
you
and
then
you
myself
and
bobbitt
talked
about
you
guys
emphasized
some
stuff
that
you
wanted
some
updates
on.
Of
course
those
will
happen
the
next
three
months
and
then,
if
you
would
like
to
get
information
on
what's
happening
with
the
reparations
you
can
always
invite
like
either
the
chair
or
the
staff
liaison
to
come.
G
Give
updates
about
that
you'll
get
most
of
that.
I
think
most
all
of
you
should
be
getting
neighborhood
news,
so
updates
will
be
in
there
and
then,
if
you
are
not
plugged
into
city
e
news
that
comes
out
once
a
month,
I
think
you
should
do
that
and
then
yeah
and
then
I'll
just
bring
things
to
your
attention
that
I
think,
might
be
really
good.
Now,
I'm
going
to
say
that
the
biggest
one
right
now
is
the
noise
in
development,
so
we're
really
trying
to
get
a
date
for
chris
collins
to
come.
G
We've
gotten
a
little
bit
of
a
conflict
on
the
fourth
monday,
so
we
may
have
to
have
a
meeting
on
a
different
monday.
Just
so
we
can
get
him
here
with
us
going
back
to
in
person,
he'll
be
in
blackmail,
he's
on
the
black
mountain
planning
board,
and
we
want
to
start
having
more
discussions
around
really
good
work
that
he
and
the
development
services
staff
is
doing
around
you.
G
A
Yeah-
and
I
think
that
is
a
you
know-
a
great
point
to
raise
just
sort
of
to
the
larger
neighborhood
advisory
committee
to
you
know,
keep
all
those
things
in
mind.
Brenda
babette
and
I
meet
once
a
month
to
kind
of
talk
through
upcoming
meetings,
just
play
catch
up
with
each
other
and
think
about
what
agenda
items
might
be
helpful
to
to
add
to
future
meetings.
But
we
can't
do
it
alone
and
we
are
only
three
voices
for
that.
A
So
any
ideas
that
you
all
have
as
well,
whether
that
be
you
know
at
the
end
of
of
our
knack
meetings,
where
the
future
agenda
items,
sort
of
section
comes
up
or
via
email
or
phone
call
in
between
meetings.
I
think
to
all
of
us
is
helpful
because
it
gives
us
an
idea
of
where
other
folks
heads
are
at
and
sort
of
get
plugged
into.
Maybe
recurring
themes
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there
as
well.
A
Any
other
any
other
sort
of
discussion
or
questions
around
the
staff
updates
before
moving
on
all
right,
so
we
will
go
into
unfinished
business
now,
and
the
first
item
is
the
knack
bylaw
revision
working
group
update.
This
is
something
where
action
is
needed
on
this
item,
but
first
I
will
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
that
working
group
to
provide
us
all
an
update
on
the
status
of
neck
by
law.
Revisions.
E
This
is
joe
fioccola.
We
resubmitted
the
the
changes
to
the
bylaws
in
a
clean
copy
for
people
to
look
at
over
the
last
month,
and
I
have
heard
nothing
about
any
of
the
proposed
changes.
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
discussion
now,
if
anybody's
actually
read
them
or
not.
I
would
like.
C
I
have
a
quick
question:
this
is
greta.
Yes,
sorry,
I've
been
traveling
and
having
family
visiting.
So
I
haven't
been
on
the
ball,
but
I
did
want
to
ask
about.
Let's
see,
I
think
it's
article
two
section
one
max
purpose.
C
I
noticed
that
it
didn't
change
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
that
is
because
I
think
there
was
some
kind
of
whatever
the
what's
the
word,
the
ordinance
or
whatever
it
was
that
made
max,
become
mac,
wouldn't
allow
for
that.
But
I
had
suggested
that
we
could
add
on
that.
Mac
should
include
listening,
educating
and
helping
develop
and
support
neighborhoods
as
a
communications
conduit,
because
right
now
it
seems
that
our
only
purpose
is
to
advise
city
council
on
neighborhoods.
C
E
This
is
joe
fioccola.
The
actual
language
in
our
founding
document
is
advise
city
council
on
neighborhoods.
E
E
However,
all
of
those
things
can
be
included
in
our
goals
to
achieve
the
purpose
of
advising
city
council
on
neighborhoods,
and
the
goals
are
something
that
can
change
from
year
to
year
as
long
as
they
support
our
purpose.
So
that's
why
I
did
not
not
change
it.
It
would
take
a
approval
by
city
council
to
to
change
that
that
language.
C
Okay,
that's
kind
of
what
I
thought,
but
in
my
opinion
those
goals,
don't
don't
point
to
the
purpose.
If
all
we're
doing
is
advising
city
council
on
neighborhoods,
then
helping
neighborhoods,
you
know
become
registered,
doesn't
point
to
advising
city
council.
So
I
do
think
it
would
be
worth
it
just
because
I
I
feel
like
it's
important,
that
all
goals
actually
directly
connect
to
the
purpose,
but
it's
up
to
other
people
too.
What
they
think.
A
Thanks
greta,
I
do
see
sharon's
hand
raised
so
sharon.
Please
go
ahead.
D
I
agree
with
greta,
I
think
it's
worth
taking
to
council,
but
I
I
would
like
to
hear
it
and
what
she
had
to
say.
But
she
said
at
our
last
meeting
and
I
agreed
with
it
and
I
like
to
see
it
written
down
and
I
would
like
to
see
it
go
to
council
because
I
agree
with
greta.
I
think
we
can
expand
our
our
goals
and
make
them
more
concrete
and
put
it
in
our
bylaws.
E
C
If
our
purpose
is
only
to
be
an
advising
council,
so
that's
why
I
feel
like
it's
important,
that
we
would
change
it
because
I
feel
like
sometimes
there
is
frustration
that
max
doesn't
have
any
teeth
like
we
there's
not
a
lot
we
can
do.
We
don't
have
like
the
power
that
some
of
the
other
committees
have,
but
that's
why
I
feel
like
it's
important,
to
bring
it
to
city
council
so
that
they
see
you
know
not
just
to
telling
them
what's
going
on
with
neighborhoods
is
important,
but
also
on
behalf
of
the
city.
C
We
are
supporting
neighborhoods
and,
if
that's
not
our
purpose,
then
our
goals
don't
point
back
to
our
purpose,
because
our
goals
are
to
support
neighborhoods.
A
Brenda,
I
see
your
hand
raised.
Please
go
ahead.
G
Let's,
let's
try
to,
let
me
make
sure
I
can
understand
what
greta
what
you're,
where
you're
coming
from
you
are
an
advisory
board.
You
are
you're,
not
a
government
quasi-judicial
board,
so
most
of
the
boards
and
commissions
for
the
city
are
advisory
boards.
You
know
they
advise
on
the
specific.
You
know
areas
that
they
cover.
G
What
I
would
suggest
you
do
is
maybe
what
you
do
is
just
expand.
What
your
purpose
says.
So
it
says
the
purpose
of
knack
is
that
via
city
council
on
neighborhoods,
within
the
city's
planning
and
zoning
jurisdiction
by
education
by
you
know,
you
can
add
those
keep
it
broad,
but
that
way.
G
So
that's
not
a
problem,
I
mean
you
can
just
make
that
update.
We
can
get
that
on
council's
agenda,
but
you
keep
it
broad
because
if
you
put
anything
specific
then
you're
stuck
to
that.
G
For
right
and
you're
and
when
you
were
talking
about
teeth,
I
don't
know
that
you're
not
going
to
be
changed
beyond
advisory
board.
So
but
you
do
understand
that
right.
D
Yeah,
I've
sat
through
three
reports
from
knack
to
council
and
I
think
personally
that
they
could
have
been
more
forceful
and
more
specific
and
more
hard
hitting
on
those
reports
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
join
can
and-
and
I
I
think
we
can
have
a
stronger
role
in
the
community
than
than
we
do.
And
I
I
still
feel
that-
and
I
support
greta's
100
percent
in
that.
A
C
Sorry,
anna
this
is
greta.
I
don't
even
I'm
not
even
trying
to
like
strengthen
our
goals.
I
think
our
goals
are
fine,
but
I
think
if
we
don't
change
our
purpose,
our
goals
don't
point
back
to
the
purpose,
because
our
goals
are
around
supporting
neighborhoods,
but
it
doesn't
say
anywhere
in
our
purpose
that
we're
there
to
support
neighborhoods.
C
It
says
we're
there
to
advise
city
council,
so
it's
just
a
technicality,
but
I
you
know,
I've
worked
for
a
nonprofit,
my
whole
life
and
you
always
want
to
do
something
that
points
back
to
the
mission
and
if
the
mission
you
know,
if
it
doesn't
point
back
to
the
mission,
then
you're
getting
off
track,
and
so
I
think
our
purpose
needs
to
clearly
define
the
actions
that
we
are
doing
and
it's
I
think
the
actions
that
we
are
doing
is
fine.
I
just
don't
think
that
they
align
with
the
purpose
as
it's
written.
E
Yeah,
I
I
think
that
the
powers
and
duties
identify
all
the
things
that
you're
talking
about.
They
talk
about
developing
a
plan
to
strengthen
neighborhood
identity,
resilience,
facilitate
communication
between
the
neighborhoods
of
the
offices,
develop
benchmarks,
work
on
special
projects.
All
those
things
are
in
the
bylaws
under
powers
and
duties,
they're
just
section
article
2,
section
2..
E
I
I
don't
see
the
need
to
change
to
take
that
to
go
through
all
the
trouble,
because
it,
the
bylaws,
are
not
meant
to
be
changed
casually
and
it
takes
it's
taken
a
lot
to
get
this
far.
It
would
take
a
lot
more
to
go
to
city
council
to
get
a
change
in
in
just
changing
the
wording
when
all
the
the
stuff
that
you
want
is
already
there.
F
E
D
It
can
be
complicated,
but
it
also
can
be
very
simple
and
everything
gets
updated
and
I
don't
believe
it
is
that
complicated
of
a
process
having
sat
through
ordinance
changes.
I've
not
done
a
bylaws
change,
but
I'm
assuming
that
the
work
I've
done
on
the
other
is
just
the
process
and
you
submit
it
and
then
the
council
asks
questions
and
and
if
they
request
changes
or
not,
we
answer
the
questions
and
that's
how
my
experience
has
been
with
it,
but
I
think
it's
vote
worthy.
If
that's
where
we're
headed.
E
Yes,
can
we
separate
this
issue
from
the
other
changes
and
if
there
are
no
other
changes,
approve
those
and
then
pursue
the
change
to
the
purpose?
In
a
separate
motion.
A
That,
honestly,
that
makes
sense
to
me
I
would
love
to
get
something
on
the
books
where
we
have
some
updated
bylaws,
especially
with
joe
rotating
off
this
meet
or
after
this
meeting
and
effectively
knack
no
longer
having
a
committee
person
as
secretary
where
now
it's
going
to
be
staff
secretary
secretary,
so
at
least
getting
to
an
updated
version
and
then
maybe
discussing
some
of
the
the
tweaks
to
the
specific
purpose.
So
joe
I'm
okay
with.
Can
I
ask.
C
C
A
Brenda,
I
see
your
hand
raised.
Please
go
ahead.
G
Ballots
are
made
by
nat,
not
by
council.
So
if
you
approve
everything
and
with
the
caveat
that
you
will
review
section,
one
purpose
you're
good
to
go
and
then,
when
you
review
it
again,
you
give
people
seven
days
to
review
it,
and
then
you
can
vote
on
that
portion
so
that
you
have
time
to
wordsmith
it
to
to
where
everybody
can
get
to
would
be
fine.
G
A
I
don't
know
if
it's
unfinished
business
or
maybe
it
would
be
new
business
like
reviewing
the
new,
updated
bylaws
at
the
next
meeting.
A
But
or
is
it
really
just
a
matter
of
making
a
motion
and
I'm
asking
the
larger
group
what
you
all
think
making
a
motion
to
adopt
the
amended
bylaws
as
submitted
in
our
meeting
packet
with
the
further
amendment
under
section,
one
purpose,
to
read
x,
y
and
z?
A
G
You
cannot
I'm
going
to
know
is
what
joe
is
saying
is
that
this
comes
directly
from
your
resolution.
In
order
for
you
to
change
that
statement,
your
resolution
has
to
change.
Okay.
So
that's
the
part
he's
talking
about.
So
it's
not
a
problem.
You
can
approve
it
with
the
caveat.
Then
this
will
be
discussed
again
at
the
next
meeting
in
july
or
august,
and
then
you
take
it
up
again.
G
G
I
know,
but
you
word
smith
it
and
send
it
back
out
for
everybody
to
review,
and
then
you
can
discuss
it
again
at
next
month's
meeting,
but
the
but
the
bylaws
will
change
with
all
the
changes
except
for
the
purpose,
and
then
you
will
look
at
that
in
july.
G
A
You
thank
you.
Let's
understand
that
process.
So
no
problem.
Do
we
want
to
entertain
emotion
to
reflect
what
brenda
just
said.
A
So
what
we're
voting
on
now
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
brenda,
but
I
want
to
try
to
get
this
right
for
the
record-
is
to
make
a
motion
to
move
forward
with
all
of
the
amendments
to
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
that
the
city
of
asheville
bylaws,
as
submitted
by
our
knack
working
group
on
june
28
2021,
with
the
continuation
of
discussion
regarding
section
one
purpose
at
our
next
snack
meeting.
That
is
a
mouthful,
but
there
we
go
okay.
So
we
will
take
a
a
vote
on
that.
A
Now,
anna
sexton
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
say
I
joe
fioccola
hi
mike
wasmer.
A
A
Thank
you.
Everyone.
Okay.
Moving
on
to
the
approval
of
our
fiscal
year,
2022
work
plan
that
updated
document
was
provided
in
your
meeting
packet
and
brenda.
If
you
don't
mind
just
going
over
some
of
the
formatting
differences
that
we're
seeing
compared
to
last
meeting.
Okay.
G
Thanks
so
this
is
brenda
mills
staff
liaison
joe
submitted
a
draft,
a
work
plan
for
you
guys
to
look
at
that.
We
did
not
include
in
the
last
meeting,
so
this
first
page
is
what
joe
submitted
right.
What
is
on
the
next
page,
where
it
says
below
the
work
plan
information
presented
at
the
may
24th?
G
These
are
items
that
was
were
not
in
in
the
blue.
These
were
items
that
were
not
on
joe's
information.
So
if
you,
what
you're
going
to
need
to
do
is
say
what
you
want
to
add
subtract
whatever.
So,
if
you
find
with
the
joe
submitted
that's
great
and
then
if
you
want
to
add
these
items
that
were
gone
over
in
your
retreat
for
the
last
two
pages,
then
you
can
do
that.
A
Brenda,
let
me
let
me
try
to
just
sort
of
repeat
back
to
you
what
you
said.
So
what
we're
sort
of
intending
to
make
a
motion
on
today
is
to
to
review
the
first
page,
this
draft
that
joe
put
together
and
then,
if
we
want
to
add
any
information
to
that,
we
need
to
or
subtract.
We
need
to
make
a
note
today,
but
on
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
goals
that
brenda
put
together
in
the
last
meeting.
G
Correct
so
all
you're,
essentially
doing
is
first
page
looks
good.
He
put
some
other
items
down
here
for
actions
to
consider,
but
the
items
you
in
specific
talked
about
at
the
neighborhood
advisory.
Now
the
ones
I
struck
out
were
the
ones
you
said
the
strikeout,
these
other
ones.
You
need
to
decide
if
that
needs
to
be
in
your
work
plan.
If
not
it's
fine,
if
you
do,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
you
had
a
written
copy
of
what
you
had
last
time.
That
still
makes
sense.
A
E
Yeah
what
I
submitted
as
a
draft
work
plan
was
like
a
menu
to
choose
from
and
there
there
were
like
four
three
or
four
items
on
each
of
the
for
each
of
the
goals
it
was
not
intended
to
be.
E
We
must
do
every
single
one
of
these,
but
to
consider
monthly,
volunteer
recognition
and
profiles
and
the
festival
as
projects
that
we
thought
we
had
the
resources
within
us
to
achieve
in
the
next
year
and
to
plan
out
and
put
on
a
calendar,
the
the
other
things
on
the
bottom,
the
develop
benchmarks
for
each
goal.
That
should
be
happening
anyway.
E
E
Neighborhood
hero
next
steps
is
already
listed
in
there
under
or
it
could
go
under.
The
first
goal
promote
celebrate
neighborhoods.
So
I
think
that
there's
more
work
to
be
done
on
making
this
a
document
we
can
vote
on,
I
I
would
recommend
a
subcommittee
get
together
and
mesh.
These
two
together
come
up
with
what
you
think
you
want
to
do
and
vote
on
it
at
the
next
meeting
or
present
it
at
the
next
meeting.
E
The
work
plan
really
goes
into
effect
july
1st,
but
I
think
in
the
in
the
by-laws
it
says
that
it
starts
at
our
august
meeting,
which
is
really
the
end
of
august.
So
that
would
be
the
time
that
the
work
plan
begins,
and
I
think
you
I
think
it
deserves
enough
work
that
we
shouldn't
rush
it
and
try
and
force
it
through
today.
E
E
Tabling
it
with
a
with
a
subcommittee
to
work
on
coming
up
with
a
comprehensive
proposal.
A
G
If
I'm
not
mistaken-
and
maybe
I
am
so-
you
guys
need
to
tell
me
these
items
that
I
wrote
out
were
the
things
you
discussed
at
your
retreat.
Okay,
joe
is
correct.
You
can
take
some
of
these
items
and
stick
them
up
under
where
he
has
some
goals
and
bullet
points,
but
the
the
last
two
pages
is
what
you
worked
on
as
a
committee,
not
one
person
or
two
people
or
three
people
they're
what
you
worked
on
as
a
committee.
G
Now,
if
you
want
me
to
go
back
and
put
stuff
on
the
cat,
I
didn't
want
to
do
that
because
there
were
two
separate
reports.
I
did
not
want
to
do
that
because
I
wanted
to
be
true
to
what
joe
sent
and
I'm
not.
I
don't
remember
if
anybody
reacted
to
it.
So
I'm
sorry
joe,
if
I
don't
remember
that
and
then
the
other
was
what
you
discussed
in
your
retreat,
I'm
glad
to
go
back
and
mess
that
together
and
and
bring
it
back
for
your
next
meeting.
G
D
Well,
the
issue
for
me
is
always
time
and
another
subcommittee
and
more
time
so
I
mean
what
joe
did
is
admirable,
but
I
don't
necessarily
agree
with
all
those
bullet
points.
Just
do
the
time
constraints,
so
I
don't
know
how
else
to
to
wade
through
this
unless
we
do
it
at
a
next
meeting
and
just
go
through,
but
to
have
a
subcommittee,
maybe
there's
other
people
here
that
want
to
sit
on
a
subcommittee
and
file
some
of
joe's
good
ideas
into
what
brenda
has
done.
D
Brenda's
for
me
is
more
cogent
because
it's
what
we
went
through
in
our
retreat
and
the
other
are
good
ideas,
but
we've
got
to
figure
out
one
if
we've
got
the
time
to
add
it
and
two,
if
we
all
are
in
agreement
to
putting
it
into
our
our
goals-
and
I
don't
know
if
a
subcommittee
alone
can
come
up
with
that,
I
mean.
Does
that
make
sense.
D
A
Is
anna
it
it
does.
I
yeah
I
was
a
little
unclear
as
to
where
the
the
draft,
the
the
neck
work
plan
on
the
first
plate.
A
First
page
came
from,
but
now
it
makes
a
lot
more
sense
seeing
after
explanation,
but
I
I
tend
to
agree
that
it
might
be
possible
for
us
to
find
homes
for
some
of
that
information
under
the
work
plan
on
that
we
all
developed
as
a
group
more
or
less
during
the
retreat,
and
I
tend
to
agree
with
with
sharon
as
well
that
this
is
the
way
that
I'm
I'm
starting
to
to
understand
and
follow.
You
know
what
our
goals
are.
I
think
they're
categorized
in
an
easy
to
understand
way.
A
I'm
concerned
about
another
subcommittee
or
working
group
getting
involved
and
continuing
to
to
work
together
where
it'll
just
delay
things
even
further.
I
think
that
this
is
work
that
we
can
do
behind
the
scenes
where
we're
not
communicating
with
each
other
directly
but
sending
things
either
to
me
or
to
brenda,
perhaps
to
kind
of
button
everything
up
and
pull
it
together.
Brenda
please
go
ahead.
G
So
I
have
lots
of
strengths,
but
one
weakness
is:
I
tend
to
oversimplify.
So
if
I
do
that,
y'all
just
call,
you
know
bs
on
me.
I
literally
just
took
the
last
three
pages
and
they
connect
to
something
that
joe
put
on
the
first
page.
So
I'm
willing
to
go
back.
Take
that
put
it
all
together
because
it
all
fits
it's
just.
It
was
two
different
things
and
I'm
willing
to
put
all
that
together.
We
will.
We
will
leave.
You
can
word
smith
joe's
stuff.
G
A
Yeah,
I
I'm
good
with
that.
I
mean,
like
I
said
I,
the
the
draft
that
we
got,
that
you
have
organized
and
put
together.
Brenda
is
clear
and
makes
sense
to
me
this
first
page,
when
I
looked
at
it,
there
were
a
few
things
that
showed
up
that
I
didn't
remember
specifically
discussing,
and
maybe
we
did,
but.
A
Let's
I'm
okay
with
what
brenda
suggested.
If
everybody
else
is
as
well,
then
we
will
so
we're
not
making
a
motion
today
we're
just
going
back
not
even
going
back
to
the
drawing
board,
but
just
finding
it
all,
combining
it
all
and
refining
what
we
have
here
and
and
getting
it
sent
out
next
week.
So
now
and.
G
G
Does
that
make
sense?
Okay
and
then
joe
has
his
hand
up
go
ahead,
joe.
E
Yeah
this
is
joe.
There
are
things
on
that
I
put
in
there
that
reflect
things
that
we've
done
in
the
past,
like
holding
public
meeting
in
five
regions.
That
is
something
that
takes
a
lot
of
work
at
last,
and
when
we've
done
that
in
the
past,
we've
done
it
over
a
two
year
period
to
get
through
all
five
of
them
the
regions.
E
This
was
meant
as
a
menu.
A
suggestion
of
potential
ideas-
and
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
say
was
that
we
don't
have
to
wait
till
august
to
vote
on
it.
You
got
a
july
meeting
that
you
could
vote
on
it.
A
All
right,
so
it
sounds
like
we
will
go
ahead
and
combine
offline,
the
material
that
we
have
here
today
wait
for
that
like
new
document
to
come
from
brenda
everybody
review
and
we
will
talk
offline
individually,
not
as
a
group,
no
reply
all
so
that
we
can
move
on
everybody.
Okay
with
that,
yes,.
C
A
That's
good,
thank
you,
so
we
will
not
be
taking
any
action
on
that
today,
which
leads
us
to
move
towards
our
next
discussion
item,
which
is
board
and
committee
vacancies
for
2021
and
just
want
to
provide
you
all
an
update.
So
right
now
max
still
needs
to
fill
the
vacancy
left
from
pastor
hardy
way,
rotating
off
he's
representing
zip
codes,
28803
and
288
28704.
A
One
thought
and
idea
that
I
had
and
I've
spoken
with
the
clerk's
office.
I've
also
spoken
with
brenda
and
bobette
was
to
move
babette
from
an
at
large
position
on
knack
to
a
28803
representation
position
on
knack:
that's
possible,
that's
something
that
baba
is
amenable
to
and
the
thought
behind
that
is
having
to
only
fill
in
at
large
position,
rather
than
a
very
specific,
zip
code
position.
A
Once
we
get
applications,
it
just
opens
up
our
pool
for
selection.
So
I
don't
think
that's
something
we
need
to
take
a
vote
on
today,
but
did
want
to
just
run
that
by
you
all
and
sharon.
I
do
see
your
hands,
so
please
go
ahead.
That's
brilliant!.
A
A
It
happens
so
that's
where
I
got
the
inspiration
for
that.
That
was
brilliant.
A
So,
with
that
said
now,
the
next
step
is
that
the
clerk's
office
will
present
the
request
to
the
boards
and
commissions
committee
in
july,
and
then
we
can,
as
knack
begin,
our
search
for
an
at-large
member,
and
what
I
do
want
to
remind
folks
of
is
that
the
next
round
of
vacancy
applications
for
boards
and
commissions
is
due
on
july,
12th,
and
so
just
want
to
encourage
you
all
and
your
networks
to
get
the
word
out
and
also
for
anyone.
Listening
in
today.
A
Please
share
with
your
communities
that
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
is
searching
for
applicants
to
fill
an
at-large
position.
So
what
that
means
is
anybody
who
is
a
resident
of
the
city
of
asheville?
It
doesn't
matter
what
your
zip
code
is
we're
looking
to
bring
someone
else
on
board
any
questions.
A
Great
okay,
so
we
will
move
into
our
new
business
and
the
first
item
under
that
is
the
neighborhood
hero
working
group
update.
I
did
receive
an
email
from
the
working
group
today
that
they
have
not
met
in
person
yet
due
to
various
scheduling,
conflicts
and
vacations.
A
So
I
do
believe
that
is
happening
next
week,
but
I
don't
want
to
steal
y'all's
thunder.
So
if
you
have
anything
to
add,
please
go
ahead
and
do
so.
A
Wonderful
great
so,
let's
see,
we've
got
it's
5
57.
Now
we've
got
about
20,
25
minutes
or
so
really.
Looking
forward
to
this
next
presentation,
it's
from
city
staff,
ben
woody,
who
is
giving
us
an
update
on
the
noise
ordinance
amendment
process.
So
ben
are
you
here.
H
A
Great
thank
you
for
sitting
through
our
meeting
up
to
this
point
and
thank
you
so
much
for
agreeing
to
present
to
us
today.
So
I
will
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
you.
G
H
Okay,
I
will
do
that.
Let
me
share
my
screen,
so
if,
while
I
do
that
and
try
to
do
two
things
at
once
here,
first
of
all,
thanks
everybody
for
having
me
tonight,
I
know
actually
a
couple
of
folks:
you're
gonna,
see
yourself
just
for
a
second
but
hang
on
a
couple.
Folks
saul
have
seen
this
presentation
multiple
times
so
for
that
I
apologize
and
now
can
everybody
hear
me
okay
and
see
this
see
the
timeline
slide.
H
H
H
Okay,
thank
you
brandon,
so
yeah,
so
we've
been,
this
dsd
has
been
working
on
the
and
I'm
going
to
do
this
pretty
quickly.
Then
answer
questions.
We've
been
working
on
updating
the
noise
ordinance
for
for
really
more
than
two
years
now
part
of
that
was
suspended
due
to
covid.
So
we
did
set
the
project
aside
actually
for
a
pretty
substantial
amount
of
time
because
of
the
coveted
pandemic,
but
we've
picked
that
back
up
recently
and
there
is
a
draft
ordinance.
H
Actually,
we
we
released
after
much
much
engagement
and
we've
worked
really
hard
on
the
public
engagement
piece
of
this.
We've
worked
really
hard
to
try
to
work
with
not
only
resident
groups
like
the
coalition
of
asheville,
neighborhoods
or
the
downtown
resident
group,
but
also
business
groups
such
as
the
actual
independent
restaurants
and
national
music
professionals.
So
we've
made
a
real
effort
to
try
to
find
a
noise
ordinance
that
works
for
asheville.
That's
for
everybody
in
asheville
that
has
surprisingly
been
very
difficult
at
times,
as
you
would
expect
and
where
we're
at
now.
H
With
this
current
process
is
we
have
a.
We
took
a
draft
ordinance
to
the
city
council,
public
safety
committee
on
may
20
25th.
They
they
accepted
that
ordinance
made
some
revisions
to
decimal
levels.
I'll
show
you
a
slide
on
that.
Just
in
a
second,
we
went
to
city
council
on
june
22nd
and
provided
an
update
and
I'm
missing
one
one
line
item
to
this
timeline
is:
we
are
scheduled
july,
27
2021
for
city
council
to
consider
the
revised
noise
ordinance
so
we're
about
about
a
month
actually
a
little
less
than
a
month.
H
Out
from
that
that
meeting,
where
they'll
consider
the
ordinance,
so
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
move
forward
a
little
bit
and
I'm
sorry
about
these.
These
are
this
is
the
pdf
presentation,
so
I've
just
kind
of
scrolled
through
the
slides,
but
here
are
really
the
eight
top
noise
concerns
that
we're
aware
of.
H
We
actually
feel
really
good
about
these
being
the
top
issues
based
on
our
engagement
and
data
we've
collected,
of
course,
not
everybody
agrees
with
the
solutions
or
kind
of
the
the
techniques
we're
going
to
try
to
address
these
issues
with,
but
I
generally
think
these
tend
to
be
the
noise
issues
in
asheville.
H
We've
had
a
lot
of
meetings
around
public
engagement.
We've
actually
been
to
knack.
Previously
it's
it's
been
a
while,
but
we've
been
before
you
as
well.
One
thing
that
I
do
think
that's
worth
sharing,
that's
probably
important
for
neighborhoods
to
really
understand
in
the
middle
of
all
this.
Despite
it,
you
know
a
pandemic
and
everything
else
has
been
challenging.
H
We
also
had
the
tragic
death
of
george
floyd,
which
his
actions
after
the
in
the
aftermath
of
that
the
city
undertook,
what's
called
reimagining
public
safety
and
that's
just
a
different
kind
of
look
overall
at
how
the
city
provides
public
safety
and
different
types
of
services.
H
So,
in
addition
to
updating
the
ordinance,
we've
kind
of
found
ourselves
really
just
building
the
program
for
how
we
enforce
the
noise
ordinance,
so
that's
been
one
thing:
that's
become
a
really
important
part
of
this,
and
I'm
not
going
to
read
this
slide
to
you,
but
you
can
kind
of
see
that
the
concept,
the
way
we
we
kind
of
look
at
this
is
more
than
just
an
ordinance
but
a
set
of
tools
and
really
developing
a
program
to
try
to
address
chronic
noise
in
the
community
and
all
these
are
important.
H
But
I'm
going
to
scroll
to
some
of
the
things
that
I
that
I
think
are
of
most
interest
in
this
brief
time.
We
have
tonight
so
two,
two
things
or
two
components
that
make
this
I
think
easier
for
everybody
to
kind
of
digest
and
understand,
is
how
we
regulate
noise.
So
first
you
have
to
know
where
the
noise
comes
from.
H
That
is
a
more
objective
or
subjective
standard,
but
it
does
allow
some
flexibility
and,
I
think,
allows
greater
context
in
determining
and
responding
to
noise
complaints.
The
other
side
of
the
coin
is
is
if
the
sound
originates
in
a
commercial
district
so
think
anything's
on
cbd,
which
is
our
downtown
area,
commercial
or
industrial.
H
H
So
again,
remember
the
noise
that
comes
from
public
space
or
from
a
residential
area
is
subject
to
the
noise
disturbance
standard.
I
won't
read
the
slide
to
you,
but
these
are
the
five
criteria.
The
staff
would
apply
to
determine
if
a
violation
exists.
So
again,
this
this
allows
some
context,
so
is,
is
the
noise
you
know,
is
a
noise
disturbance
or
is
the
noise
complaint?
Is
it
related
to
a
noisy
neighbor?
That's
upstairs,
or
is
it
related
to
somebody
performing
in
public
space?
H
I
think
the
noise
disturbance
standard
allows
staff
to
kind
of
assess
those
situations
and
try
to
respond
appropriately,
not
everything
a
lot,
a
lot
of
residential
to
residential
noise
issues,
I
think,
can
be
solved
through
education
conversation
and
trying
to
get
people
to
work
together.
On
the
issue
a
lot
of
times,
I
find
that
residents
don't
even
realize
they're
creating
a
noise
problem
for
somebody
else,
the
other
side
of
this-
and
maybe
we
can
pause
here.
If
there's
any
questions,
this
is
the
the
decimal
standard.
H
So
these
would
be
the
decimal
levels
and
times
that
would
be
subject
or
would
apply
to
commercial,
sound
producers,
so
that
could
be
anything
from
an
industrial
operation
to
a
performance
center
to
even
somebody's
hvac
equipment.
So
there's
a
number
of
things
that
create
noise
in
commercial
settings
and
you
can
see
in
black
with
the
strike
through.
H
You
see
the
original
staff
recommendations,
the
decimal
levels
that
we
had
proposed
and
in
the
blue,
you
can
see
the
modifications
from
the
public
safety
council
committee
and
what
what
you
see
here
is
there's
a
decimal
scheme
that
matches
what
exists
in
wilmington.
H
So
the
modifications
made
by
the
public
safety
committee
in
blue
are
what
you,
what
you
have
in
wilmington
north
carolina
and
just
point
of
clarification
on
this
when
staff
goes
to
measure
and
we've
done
a
ton
of
measurements,
we're
probably
over
100
individual
measurements
in
asheville
now
in
terms
of
collecting
data,
when
we
measure
these,
these
decimals
are
an
average.
So
it's
not
not
a
peak.
If
there's
you
know
an
event,
that's
happening
when
the
crowd
cheers
or
something
you
know
happens.
H
The
decimal
level
will
peak
for
for
a
few
seconds,
but
these
these
measurements,
these
decimal
levels,
are
what's
called
l
a
eqs
and
that's
complicated,
but
it
basically
means
it's
just
an
averaging,
so
this
would
be
the
average
decibel
level
over
a
minute
or
greater.
These
decibels
are
measured
at
the
receiving
property.
So
if
somebody
from
if
one
of
your
fellow
neighbors
called
the
city
and
made
a
complaint
and
the
noise
was
coming
from
a
commercial
entity,
we
would
come
to
the
residential
property
to
take
this
measurement
or
whatever
property.
H
The
complaint
came
from
what
we've
tried
to
tell
commercial
noise
producers
is,
the
best
thing
they
can
do
is
if
you
can
get
these
decimal
levels.
If
you
can,
if
you
can
meet
these
at
your
own
property
lines,
then
you
know
you
don't
have
anything
to
worry
about
beyond
your
property
lines,.
H
And
just
because
everybody's
kind
of
interested
in
this
real
quickly,
you
can
see
some
decibel
levels
from
other
cities
and
in
surrounding
areas.
These
are
kind
of
we
benchmarked
against
more
than
actually
20
municipalities
to
try
to
establish
the
decimal
levels,
and
these
are
just
a
few
of
the
closer.
H
I
think
more
active
cities
that
have
decimal
levels
and
everybody
does
it
differently.
Some
measure,
the
decimal
level
where
the
sounds
produced.
Those
are
the
ones
in
red
some
measure,
the
decibel
levels
where
the
sound
is
received.
Those
are
the
ones
in
blue
and
again,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we're
matching
right
now,
wellington's
decimal
levels.
H
H
H
So
a
good
example
is
maybe
a
business
has
an
annual
non-profit
fundraiser
or
they
have
live
music
or
other
live
performing
events
or
whatever
it
may
be
at
times
they
will
exceed
the
base
decimal
levels.
So
this
is
a
permit
that
allows
that
to
happen
under
certain
conditions,
there's
tiers
or
different
types
of
permits,
and,
as
you
can
see,
basically
the
more
events
that
a
place
has
that
exceed
the
decibels,
the
more
standards
they
have
to
meet.
H
You
know
again
with
type
one
is
basically
just
get
a
basic
permit
from
the
city,
and
that
allows
you
to
have
one
to
two
events
at
your
property
per
year,
all
the
way
up
to
type
three,
which
is
more
nine
or
more
events,
and
that's
limited
to
actual
performance
centers,
which
are
out
places
that
are
permitted
to
have
outdoor
performing
arts
or
music
or
whatever.
It
may
be.
H
A
couple
of
things
I
want
to
point
out.
I
think
that
are
important
to
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee.
Probably
on
this
slide
in
particular,
is
right.
Now
it's
really
easy
to
build
performance
centers
again.
These
are
places
that
are
under
zoning
or
permitted
and
allowed
to
have
like
outdoor
events,
or
you
know,
amphitheater
type
situations.
H
So
I
do
think
there's
a
need
in
asheville,
as
part
of
this
process,
to
evaluate
our
zoning
ordinance
to
make
sure
that
when
we
do
have
performance
centers
located
in
the
city
they're
located
in
areas
and
under
conditions
that
make
sense
and
are
as
compatible
as
possible
with
nearby
residential
areas.
So
I
think
that
does
need
some
work
and
then
the
last
thing
is
on
this
slide.
Is
when
we
do
have
places
that
are
applying
for
the
sound
exceedance
permits?
There
is
a
there
is
a
notification
requirement
to
that.
H
So
if
you
live
nearby
and
there's
going
to
be
a
a
loud
event
on
a
saturday,
you'll
get
some
sort
of
advanced
notice.
So
as
a
joining
property
or
nearby
property,
you
can
kind
of
prepare
for
that
event
and
be
aware
of
what's
happening
and
have
some
details
about
it.
So
you
may
not
like
that.
You
may
not
like
the
noise,
but
at
least
folks
won't
be
surprised
by
the
presence
of
it.
H
H
Again.
I
won't
read
this
to
you,
but
you
can
kind
of
see
on
the
slide.
It's
a
good.
It
would
be
as
proposed
a
good
mix
of
residents
and
different
different
entities
from
the
business
side
of
things
and,
of
course,
we'd
want
to
have
a
sound
professional
on
that
board.
H
As
well
and
much
like
your
discussion
earlier
tonight,
you
know
we're
also
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
that
the
duties
and
the
purpose
of
the
board
is
really
clear
and
obvious
to
the
folks
that
are
on
it
and
and
to
the
staff
in
the
community
that
rely
upon
it,
and
I
just
take
a
second
depauw-
is
here
again
for
the
neighbor
neighborhood
advisory
commission
a
year
ago
this
would
have
been
probably
all
apd,
except
for
construction,
so
the
way
that
the
noise
ordinance
is
going
to
be
enforced
in
the
future
looks
very
different.
H
The
way
that
we'll
be
able
to
respond
is
probably
more
systematic
and
probably
in
a
way
that
tries
to
address
chronic
noise
when
that
exists.
Apd
always
will
play
a
role.
I
believe,
unless
we
have
a
whole
bunch
of
staff
one
day
in
the
future,
but
we
do
need
apd
to
help
manage
kind
of
after
hours.
There's
a
lot
of
times
when
maybe
it's
just
a
isolated
party
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood,
and
it
really
does
just
take
a
police
officer
to
show
up
and
say,
hey
turn
it
down
and
that
oftentimes
is
effective.
H
So
there
I
think
there
still
is
a
role
for
apd
in
certain
instances
and
as
their
staffing
allows
that
they're
going
to
support
this
process,
I'm
going
to
skip
through
the
examples
almost
done
and
I'll
take
some
questions
or
listen
to
some
conversation.
H
We
tried
really
hard
to
build
consensus.
We
really
did
and
a
lot
of
different
residents
and
businesses
participated
in
this
process
in
good
faith.
Everybody
came
to
the
table,
but
sometimes
you
just
have
to
agree
to
disagree
on
certain
things,
and
so
these
are
some
of
the
areas
and
that's
not
to
say
that
everybody
agrees
on
everything,
but
these
are
probably
the
areas
that
I
really
would
identify
as
just
not
getting.
H
H
H
One
thing
that
that,
for
the
most
part,
I
think
even
the
the
business
participants
have
agreed
on
is
the
idea
that
there
probably
needs
to
be
some
type
of
protection
specific
to
residential
with
where
the
decimal
levels
are
at
now
I
think
they've
been
raised
they're
a
little
bit
higher
in
the
draft
ordinance
and
we're
going
to
have
to
get
some
data
as
staff
to
support
this.
We
are
going
to
recommend
some
sort
of
establishment
of
a
a
decimal
level
specific
for
residential.
H
So
what
that
would
mean
is
while
the
decimal
levels
are
perhaps
a
little
bit
higher
for
commercial,
sound
producers
or
industrial,
sound
producers.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
actually
in
residential
areas
measuring
those
decibel
levels
that
we
have
a
number
that
you
know
is
reasonable
for
the
business,
but
also
provides
some
protections
for
the
residents
that
are
that.
Are
you
know
in
close
proximity
to
that
sound
so
again,
july,
27th
we'll
be
in
front
of
city
council
they'll.
Consider
the
noise
ordinance.
H
One
thing
that
has
been
agreed
upon
is
once
the
ordinance
is
in
place.
It'll
have
a
delayed,
effective
date,
so
realistically
the
ordinance
won't
be
in
full
effect
until
probably
december
or
january
later
this
year.
During
that
that
kind
of
transition
time
dsd
will
continue
to
go
out
and
get
measurements
and
collect
data
to
make
sure
we
got
this
ordinance
right.
H
We
we're
going
to
ask
city
council
to
go
ahead
and
make
those
appointments
to
the
advisory
board.
So
we
can
kind
of
you
know,
keep
a
group
of
engaged
residents
and
business
owners
involved
in
this
because
again
we're
trying
to
do
this.
The
right
way
and
our
commitment
to
city
council
and
to
the
community
is
that
if
any
of
these
decimal
levels
or
any
of
these
standards
are
really
just
not
feasible
or
not
going
to
do
what
we
had
hoped
they
would.
H
We
are
going
to
commit
to
bringing
that
back
to
council
later
this
year
and
asking
for
modifications.
So
with
that,
I'm
gonna
give
my
screen
back
to
you
and
take
any
comments
or
questions
you
may
have.
I
know
that's
a
lot
of
information
and
you
only
got
like
10
of
the
29
slides
so.
A
This
is
anna.
Thank
you,
ben.
I
think
you
presented
everything
in
a
really
succinct
way.
I
know
it's
a
ton
of
information.
I
do
see
a
couple
hands
up
so
sharon.
Please
go
ahead.
C
D
The
sticking
in
now
don't
we
have
a
noise
advisory
board
now.
Is
that
isn't
that
what
that
is,
or
has
that
got
a
different
name
to
it?.
H
It
has
a
different
name:
it's
it's.
A
noise
appeals
board
and
it's
actually
a
quasi-judicial
board
and
really
their
only
function
is
to
either
hear
appeals
of
a
citation
issued
by
the
city
or
to
hear
or
to
hear
complaints
that
are
initiated
by
residents.
So
they
don't
really
do
any
advisory
work.
They
only
hear
cases
basically,
noise,
complaint
cases.
H
No
we're
recommending
the
quasi-judicial
piece
go
away.
We
no,
it
won't
share.
We
think,
actually,
that,
with
a
little
more
proactive
enforcement
by
staff,
we
can
probably
be
more
responsive
than
that
board
was
able
to
do
now.
If
I
issue
you,
a
citation
chair
and
you'll
certainly
still
be
able
to
appeal
that
it
would
just
go
actually
goes
to
the
dsd
director,
so
I
wouldn't
be
issuing
the
citation,
but
no
we're
proposing
that
that
board,
rather
than
be
a
board
that
hears
cases
we're
proposing
that
it'd
be
actually
an
advisory
board.
H
Lonzo
through
staff,
we,
I
will
tell
you
that
in
probably
pouring
through,
I
guess
it's
like
really
14
14
000
noise
complaints.
I
would
say
the
city's
issued
less
than
100
civil
citations,
and
that
includes
the
board.
So
I
do
think
that
we
will
probably
when
we
can't
solve
the
problem
we
want.
We
want
compliance,
but
I
I
think
you'll
see
a
lot
more
reliance
on
the
fines
as
an
enforcement
tool.
Moving
forward
under
this
new
program,
we've
already
actually
dsc
I'll,
tell
we've
already
issued
fines
in
the
current
ordinance.
So.
F
Thank
you,
anna
I'm
wendy
hayner,
and
I
have
a
question.
When
business
has
this
a
noise
ordinance
certificate
or
is
there
something
that
they
can
post
outside
of
their
business,
stating
that
they
meet
the
requirements
by
the
the
city
for
their
noise
at
their
music
venue
or
whatever?
F
The
issue
is
if
it
would
be
possible
if
they
have
a
poster
of
some
sort
or
document
that
they
would
put
in
their
window
to
inform
the
people
who
are
visiting
that
area
that
they
do
meet?
That
requirement
is
that
a
possibility.
H
Ben,
it
is
there's,
there's
a
lot
of
ways
to
do
that.
There's
posters
there's
ways
to
share
information
electronically.
Now
I
think
I
actually
think
education
is
a
big
piece
of
this.
I
I
in
our
experience
a
lot
of
times,
businesses
don't
even
know
that
they've
got
an
issue,
so
sometimes
I
think,
just
through
education
and
sharing
information,
most
of
our
businesses
are
good
neighbors
and
they
they
correct
some,
don't.
H
You
know,
while
you're
in
the
courtyard
you
just
may
not
always
think
about
the
fact
that
people
are
sleeping
with
windows
open.
So
I
think
what
you
just
said
is
is
a
great
tool
and
something
that
we'll
definitely
do
that
the
city
hasn't
done
in
the
past
and
that's
share
resources
and
try
to
educate
people.
F
The
only
reason
why
I
bring
this
up,
then,
is
there
was
a
situation
that
arose
recently
at
a
restaurant
that
had
some
afternoon
music
on
the
outside
of
their
building
and
a
person
who
apparently
lives
in
that
particular
neighborhood
drove
up
and
blew
their
horn,
the
entire
time
that
the
band
was
playing.
F
H
H
Yeah
correct,
that's
part
of
our,
I
think
that's
our
job
as
staff
and
maybe
maybe
something
that's
different
than
the
city's
done
in
the
past
sharon
we're
going
to
try
hard
to
make
people
accountable,
but
at
the
same
time,
to
your
point
wendy,
when
people
are
being
accountable,
we
have
to
go
back
to
the
residence
or
the
whoever's
complaining
and
say,
like
they're,
okay,
like
they're
doing
what
they're
supposed
to
be
doing
and
we're
going
to
try
to
do
that
as
well.
H
A
Joe,
I
also
see
your
hand
up.
Please
go
ahead.
E
Yeah,
this
is
joe
fiocola.
I
I
realize
you're
gonna
have
to
define
day
and
night,
but
you're
also
gonna
have
to
define
residential
and
non-residential
with
all
the
mixed-use
development
that
has
residential
mixed
in
with
commercial.
E
H
That's
that's
correct
and
that
that
may
be
something
that
it
probably
does
need
more
work
right
now,
we've
defined
the
land
uses
by
their
base
zoning
districts,
but,
as
you
know,
a
lot
of
residents
live
in
next
few
situations
which
basically,
at
that
point,
if
you
live
in
a
commercial,
if
you're
mixed
use
in
a
commercial
district,
you're
gonna
you're
gonna-
probably
be
you
know
so.
You're
gonna
have
to
you're
well,
you're
gonna
have
higher
decimal
levels.
C
C
Apd's
goal
is
eventually
to
transition
entirely
to
development
services.
So
my
question
is:
when
you
have
noise
in
a
residential
neighborhood
after
apd
is
no
longer
responding
who's
going
to
respond
after
hours,
because
people
are
not
going
to
want
to
have
to
file
a
complaint
form
online.
You
know
they
want
them
to
use
the
music
to
stop
or
whatever
the
noise
is
yeah.
H
That's
a
really
good
question
and
ninety
percent
of
noise
complaints
happening
outside
of
dsd's
normal
operating
hours.
So
we're
only
like
on
the
clock
for
10
of
those
complaints
to
your
point
until
we
can,
until
we
can
add
more
staffing,
I
don't.
I
think
apd
has
to
play
a
role
in
this,
because
I
I
do
agree
with
you
there's
a
lot
of
noise
issues
that
are
pretty
easily
solved
with
somebody
showing
up
at
one
in
the
morning
and
just
saying:
stop
it
and
it'll,
probably
an
apd.
H
Does
I
mean
it'll,
probably
be
it'll,
it's
going
to
be
a
while
before
we
get
apd
out
of
this
totally.
Let
me
say
it
that
way:
we'd
have
to
be
staffed.
Okay-
and
I
agree
with
you
like
some
noise
can,
like
you
know,
if,
if
a
trash
truck
empties
a
dumpster
at
three
in
the
morning,
that
could
probably
wait
till
the
next
day,
we
could
probably
take
that
complaint
over
online
and
call
the
waste
company.
So
there
are.
H
There
are
situations
where
noise
isn't
like
in
the
moment
emergency,
but
I
do
agree
with
you
when
your
neighbor's
having
a
party
until
three
in
the
morning.
It
really
helps
to
have
somebody
to
respond,
and
until
we
can
hire
enough
positions
to
do
that,
I
think
apd
plays
a
role.
A
This
is
anna
sexton
art
and
I
don't
see
any
other
questions
and
I
know
that
we
need
to
stay
on
track
to
for
our
meeting
schedule.
But
then
thank
you
again
for
coming
and
presenting
to
us.
A
Is
there
anything
else
that
you
need
from
knack
moving
forward,
or
are
we
really
just
at
the
point
of
of
presenting
everything
to
council
and
then
getting
changes
adopted.
H
I
think
we're
at
the
kind
of
the
point
of
getting
this
in
front
of
council.
I
will
say
that
noise
is
a
quality
of
life
issue.
Residents
are
typically
most
interested
in
quality
of
life
issues,
so
I
would
just
say
knack
with
you:
have
you
have
in
a
lot
of
ways
a
lot
better
access
to
asheville
than
we
do
as
staff?
So
I
would,
I
would
say,
over
the
next
four
to
five
months,
as
we
figure
out
this
noise
ordinance
and
try
to
make
it
work.
H
A
Yeah,
the
the
good
news,
often
gets,
gets
pushed
to
the
side
or
works
gets
pushed
to
the
side,
but
just
say
thank
you
again.
I
know
that
two
years
ago,
when
we
were
still
doing
in-person
meetings
and
having
community
essentially
roundtables
working
with
you
on
this,
so
I
know
that
you
have
really
put
in
your
due
diligence
and
good
faith
to
reach
all
different
stakeholders.
So
we
appreciate
it.
A
All
right
so
want
to
kind
of
squeeze
in
the
last
little
bit
of
our
agenda.
We
may
run
a
few
minutes
over
I'll.
Try
not
to
do
that,
but
now
we
have
just
our
knack
member
updates
on
other
boards,
we'll
start
with
open
space
task
force,
which
sharon
and
I
attend
those
meetings.
A
Sharon
wasn't
at
the
last
meeting,
but
sharon
do
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
kind
of
take
the
lead
on
this?
I'm
happy
to
fill
in
a
little
bit.
D
Because
I
missed
it,
the
only
thing
that
we've
formed
a
subgroup
dealing
with
special
business
district
and
the
trees
issue
of
the
heat
island
effect
down
on
the
cbd
and
how
to
deal
with
the
trees
that
are
being
planted
that
are
not
being
taken
care
of
and
if
we're
going
to
require
trees
to
be
planted,
how
would
effectively
make
them
mature
and
do
what
they're
supposed
to
do
which
be
canopy
tree
to
do
their
tree
thing?
And
so
we've
had
a
subcommittee
on
what
that's
going
to
require
again.
D
We've
had
some
discussion
on
trees,
take
up
space
for
developers
and
it's
it's
it's
real
estate,
so
an
open
space
with
buffer
areas
which
include
plants
and
shrubs
and
trees.
My
personal
opinion,
it's
been
a
battle
tried
to
save
our
green
infrastructure
when
the
developers
look
at
everything
in
cost
per
square
foot.
A
A
We've
been
talking
about
maybe
developing
a
tiered
system
based
on
the
type
of
development
or
area
and
where
development
is
wanting
to
take
place
in
terms
of
requiring
the
amount
of
open
space
based
on
that
type
of
development.
But
there
are
concerns
and
unintended
consequences
about
double
counting
aspects
related
to
the
tiered
system
where
it
can
actually
sort
of
backfire
and
the
open
space
that
you're,
wanting
or
intending
to
get
can
actually
be
lessened
through
some
of
the
the
ways
that
we've
been
looking
at
trying
to
get
a
tiered
system
in
place.
A
So
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
minutiae
and
very
complex
work,
and
I'm
thankful
that
sharon
is
part
of
it
because
a
lot
of
it
is
over
my
head,
I'm
really
just
there
oftentimes
to
support
and
take
additional
notes,
but
another
question
that
came
up
at
our
last
meeting
is:
do
we
want
to
allow
commercial
activity
in
open
space?
So
thinking
about.
A
Shops
or
or
music
venues,
or
things
like
that,
but
we're
having
our
next
meeting
on
wednesday
morning.
So
I
think
we'll
continue
to
work
through
some
of
those
issues
and
have
something
to
report
back
to
you
all.
I
think
we're
still
ways
off
from
having
I'm
going
to
mention
that
everybody
is
good
with
moving
forward.
D
Yeah
yeah,
thank
you
for
paying
attention
and
going
to
the
last
meeting
I
will
be
at
the
wednesday
meeting.
Hopefully,
you'll
have
some
time
if
nothing
else,
just
so
listen
in
it's,
it's
taking
two
brains
for
sure
to
to
try
to
get
this
figured
out.
It's
very
complicated.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
all
right,
we're
at
6
30..
I
promise
I'm
gonna
get
through
this
next
little
bit.
I
was
at
or
I
attended
the
june
multimodal
transportation
commission
meeting
last
week
as
the
knack
liaison
and
there's
a
lot
of
information
that
I
do
want
to
share
with
you
all
today,
I'll
gloss
over
some
of
it.
A
They
essentially
looked
at
three
alternatives
where
you're,
shifting
lane
directions
or
doing
what
they're
calling
rebalances
so
either
rebalancing
biltmore,
rebalancing
mcdowell
or
doing
a
combination
of
those
two
and
each
comes
with
pros
and
cons.
But
their
final
report
will
present
a
menu
of
options
to
the
city
where
some
recommendations
or
improvements
can
be
standalone
items
where
and
others
are
expected
to
be
implemented
as
a
result
of
whichever
alternative
they
ultimately
select.
But
their
information
is
on
the
city
website
under
the
corridor
studies
page
and
links.
A
A
Also,
three
new
crosswalks
sidewalk
and
curb
extensions
that
are
sort
of
delineated
with
temporary
installments
and
also
converted
michigan
into
a
one-way
street,
for
just
a
small
segment
of
that
roadway
and
put
in
a
sidewalk
extension
into
the
right-of-way
it's
over
in
east-west
asheville
asheville.
It's
in
the
neighborhood.
I
live
in,
I'm
a
big
fan
of
it
and
really
thankful
for
everyone
who
volunteered
their
hours
and
thankful
for
asheville
on
bikes
and
the
work
that
they
do
and
how
receptive
the
city
has
been
to
working
with
them
and
making
things
happen.
A
Ncdot
is
supportive
of
a
general
concept
of
wanting
to
have
a
three-lane
facility,
so
kind
of
you
know
road
diet,
where
you're
going
to
have
improved
bike
and
ped
infrastructure,
but
also
some
traffic
calming
elements
to
slow
down
traffic.
But
the
biggest
issue
is
is
when
and
how
there
has
been
a
proposal
to
have
the
city
take
ownership
of
merriman
avenue,
but
that
is
a
whole
nother
can
of
worms
that
they're
working
through
right
now.
So
those
talks
continue
and
then
another
big
item
is
transit.
A
The
part
of
the
update
through,
I
think
this
year's
budget
is
increasing
the
frequency
of
the
s3
and
s6
buses
from
90
minute
to
45
minute
frequency,
which
is
a
significant
improvement
in
extending
hours
of
operation
for
the
whole
system.
Whole
transit
system
even
later
into
the
evening,
and
one
of
the
good
news
pieces
that
they
shared
with
us,
is
the
city
partnered,
with
mayheck
and
beloved
last
week
for
coveted
vaccinations,
and
that
resulted
in
vaccinating
71.
People
who
received
free
bus
passes
for
the
rest
of
the
year.
A
So
that
was,
I
think,
a
really
great
and
creative
way
to
engage
the
community
and
offer
public
health
initiatives
so
also
amboy
road,
which
is
over
near
amboy
and
lyman,
where
the
new
greenway
and
cycle
track
have
been
installed,
there's
a
pretty
short
but
significant
gap
in
pedestrian
infrastructure
or
pedestrian
safety
between
the
end
of
that
and
the
amboy
river,
the
bridge
over
french
broad
river
and
so
multimodal
really
kind
of
pushed
the
city
to
make
a
case
to
ncdot
about
finding
a
way
to
implement
even
temporary
safety
improvements.
A
So
now,
there's
about
300
000
of
improvements
underway
for
that
section,
where
they're
going
to
be
widening
the
sidewalk
on
the
north
side
to
allow
for
bike,
ped
infrastructure
and
the
city
and
ncdot
did
counts
and
bicycle
and
pedestrian
counts
and
saw
a
great
need
for
some
protection
over
there.
So
that's
also
really
exciting,
but
I
think
that
also
just
sort
of
ties
back
into
max
liaising
with
multimodal.
A
Ncdot,
I
think,
is
a
little
bit
more
receptive
to
multimodal
safety
than
they
have
been
in
the
past.
Hopefully
so
just
wanted
to
share
that
all
with
you.
You
know
that's
a
lot
of
information
that
does
wrap
up
our
updates
on
other
boards
and
commissions
and
so
agenda
items
for
next
meeting
or
next
couple
of
meetings,
we're
hoping
to
have
lucy
crown
or
another
representative
from
the
city
to
present
to
us
the
close
the
gap.
Oh
go
ahead.
Brenda.
G
A
Thank
you,
that's
helpful
to
know
since
we're
running
overtime,
so
lucy
crown
or
some
other
person
from
the
city
staff
person
from
the
city
to
present
on
the
close,
the
gap
project,
which
is
the
greenway
ada
and
pedestrian
master
plan.
Phil
lenowitz
former
knack
chair
has
contacted
me
and
I
met
with
him
virtually
a
few
weeks
ago.
He
is
now
a
partner
or
excuse
me,
a
volunteer
with
aarp
and
wants
to
meet
with
knack
to
see
how
we
can
coordinate
and
leverage
each
other
to
work
towards
common
neighborhood
goals.
A
Technical
review
committee,
which
both
sharon
and
brenda
serve
on
looking
forward
to
having
someone
come
present
to
us
so
that
we
can
all
get
a
better
understanding
of
development
and
how
that
works
in
the
city
and
then
also
an
update
from
brenda
on
the
neighbor
or
perhaps
another
staff
person
on
the
neighborhood
grants
program.
So
if
anybody
has
any
other
ideas
for
future
agenda
items,
please
go
ahead
and
raise
your
hand.
Now.
A
If
they
come
to
you
later,
just
shoot
me
an
email
and
then
don't
see
anything
so
move
to
no
live
public
comment.
Oh
joe,
see
your
hand
go
ahead.
A
It's
been
incredibly
useful
and
we
hope
to
see
you
signing
into
virtual
meetings
or
maybe
in
person
at
future
meetings
once
those
are
held
in
august,
but
just
want
to
say
thank
you
again
for
serving
on
knack
and
we'll
miss
having
you
around
so
best
wishes
post
knack.
A
And
then
the
next,
our
next
regular
meeting
is
scheduled
for
monday
july
26
2021
at
5
pm,
and
it
remains
remote
with
live
comment
and
knack
will
begin
in-person
meetings
in
august
and
the
public
will
still
be
able
to
leave
voice
and
email
comments
for
in-person
meetings.
So
you
can
check
out
the
city's
engagement
hub
for
more
information
and
directions
on
how
to
participate,
and
with
that
said,
I
will
now
adjourn
the
meeting
unless
there
are
any
objections.