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B
Thanks
sasha
good
morning,
everyone
I'm
brian
moffatt.
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
meeting
of
the
asheville
downtown
commission
for
may
13
2022..
The
actual
downtown
commission
was
created
by
the
city
council
for
the
sustainability
and
continued
development
of
downtown
a
vital
urban
center
of
western
north
carolina's
economic,
cultural
and
visitor
activity.
The
downtown
commission
provides
city
council
with
recommendations
on
downtown
policies
and
initiatives.
B
In
addition,
downtown
commissioners
currently
fill
four
out
of
nine
seats
of
the
city's
design
review
committee,
which
reviews
development
projects
within
the
central
business
district,
the
river
arts,
district
and
hotel
projects
outside
of
those
areas.
The
downtown
commission
also
has
the
opportunity
to
provide
input
on
projects
outside
of
the
scope
of
design
review.
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating.
Virtually
we
are
streaming,
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
committee
page.
B
We
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen,
live
by
phone
and
for
anyone
out
there
with
us
today.
Welcome
this
time
I
will
go
through
and
introduce
the
committee
members
who
are
participating
virtually
you
folks
know
the
drill
of
mutual
microphone
if
you're,
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak,
unmute
your
microphone
committee
members,
as
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello.
We've
got
a
few
that
are
out
today,
andrew
fletcher,
vice
chair
good
morning,
good
morning,
tal
frankfurt
good
morning
good
morning.
B
A
C
D
B
Good
morning,
ruth
summers
is
traveling
as
well
and
sage
turner.
Our
city
council
representative,
is
going
to
be
a
few
minutes
late,
so
we
will
go
ahead
and
approve
the
minutes
and
a
couple
of
things
before
she
gets
here
very
good.
I'm
going
to
start
the
committee
agenda
items
and
to
help
our
audience
follow
along.
I
will
state
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
and
we
will
also
do
a
vocal
roll
call
for
each
vote
all
right
at
this
time.
B
We
have
our
draft
action
minutes
from
april
8
2022.
Of
course
the
full
minutes
are
in
the
form
of
the
recording
the
video
recording
that
is
available
on
the
downtown
commission
page
at
the
city
website.
So
do
we
have
any
comments
or
revisions
for
the
draft
action
minutes
or
do
we
have
a
motion
to
approve?
I.
B
Thank
you,
okay,
I'll,
go
through
and
call
call
roll
andrew.
D
C
B
Thank
you
very
good.
The
motion
passes
all
right.
We
don't
have
a
very
heavy
agenda
this
morning.
I
don't
think
we
had
any
public
comment.
So
far
is
that
right,
dana
I
didn't
receive.
B
Perfect,
thank
you.
This
morning
we
basically
have
noise
ordinance
updates.
We've
got
some
updates
and
reports
from
some
of
our
standing
committees
and
then
we've
got
an
informal
discussion
regarding
our
future
agenda
items.
We've
got
a
few
more
items
on
the
plate
for
our
june
meeting,
so
I
think
our
first
item
of
business
would
be
noise
ordinance
updates.
I
don't
know
if
daniel
or
grenier's
doing
that
which
one,
but
you
have
the
floor,.
F
Good
morning
and
thank
you
so
much
chair,
my
name
is
granny
miser.
I
am
the
interim
noise
administrator
here
in
development
services
department
and
with
me
today
is
our
noise
compliance
officer,
daniel
laura
pessa,
we're
going
to
bring
you
an
update
of
the
noise
ordnance
and
go
through
and
where
we've
come
since
september
15th
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
Some
of
the
overview
is
general,
but
I
have
tried
to
focus
in
on
specific
issues
pertaining
to
cbd.
Being
that
I
know,
that's
your
that's
your
area
of
greatest
interest.
F
So
if
it's
okay
with
you,
I'm
gonna
jump
right
in
I'm
happy
to
take
questions
at
the
end
and
certainly
happy
to
talk
more
to
you
individually
or
as
a
group
about
anything
more
specific
that
we
don't
have
time
to
address
this
morning.
So
again,
thank
you,
dana
for
inviting
us
and
chair
thanks
for
having
us,
so
the
ordinance
was
implemented
in
september.
F
F
We
have
a
dedicated
web
page
with
tools
for
people
within
our
city
limits
where
they
can
submit
a
complaint.
F
We
have
a
proactive
field,
request
form
for
businesses
who
may
want
us
to
come
out
and
just
do
a
decibel
compliance
check
with
them
and
see
where,
where
they
are,
as
far
as
the
noise
that
their
business
is
giving
off
and
make
sure
they're
in
compliance
being
proactive
is
a
really
important
part
of
our
work
and
number
one.
F
It
kind
of
fits
very
much
in
with
the
spirit
of
this
ordinance
and
that
it's
been
a
very
much
a
community
based
exercise,
but
secondly,
and
all
more
importantly,
for
staff
too,
we
are
a
two-person
staff
and
so
being
able
to
to
be
proactive,
really
helps
us
manage
things
before
they
become
problematic.
F
We
do
have
a
sound
exceedance
permit
provision
in
the
ordinance.
This
does
pertain
to
some
activity
and
downtown
in
the
cbd.
Zoning
district.
So
again,
there's
some
guidance
there
for
people
who
would
wish
to
apply
for
that
that
permit
which
allows
them
to
exceed
the
decimal
limit
under
certain
conditions
beyond
what's
prescribed
in
the
ordinance
for
their
zoning
district
and
then.
Finally,
we
have
a
public
dashboard,
which
is
a
a
summary
of
all
the
complaints
we
have
received
to
date.
The
dashboard
is
broken
down
into
the
total
number
of
complaints.
F
The
types
of
complaints,
so,
whether
it's
construction
or
residential
or
commercial
or
waste
management,
is
also
broken
down
by
day
of
week,
time
of
day
and
then
on
the
right
hand,
side
there's
a
breakdown
of
what
we
have
within
our
system,
which
is
our
closure
codes,
which
shows
how
that
problem
has
been
managed,
addressed,
investigated
and
hopefully
resolved
ultimately
so
or
if
there's
no
violation
been
established.
That's
also
noted,
so
there's
a
lot
of
information
on
that
webpage.
F
I
would
certainly
encourage
you
to
have
a
look
for
it
at
it
at
the
end
of
our
presentation,
daniel
and
I
have
our
contact
information
if
there's
anything
of
particular
interest
to
you
or
anything,
you
have
further
questions
on
and
please
feel
free
to
reach
out.
We
very
much
see
our
role,
as
you
know,
collaborative
with
other
groups
within
the
city,
as
well
as
the
the
as
those
who
who
reside
and
work
in
the
city
so,
and
we
also
developed
a
number
of
standard
operating
procedures.
Again.
F
This
is
a
totally
new
function
to
our
department,
and
so
we
needed
to
establish
how
we
were
going
to
investigate
complaints,
how
we
were
going
to
address
complaints,
manage
complaints.
F
Those
sops
have
a
very
serious
focus
on
fairness
and
equity
in
this
process,
so
that
we're
treating
everybody
in
the
same
way
we're
attending
two
complaints
in
the
same
way
and
there's
consistency
in
how
staff
address
complaints
and
a
big
part
of
our
work
has
been
establishing
and
maintaining
relationships.
I
know
many
of
you
may
have
been
involved
in
the
actual
public
engagement
exercise
that
went
on
to
develop
this.
F
These
revisions
to
our
ordinance,
it
was
very
much
a
community
driven
process
and
so
daniel,
and
I
have
worked
very
hard
to
maintain
those
relationships
as
a
small
staff.
We
rely
a
lot
on
those
partnerships
and
also
we
do
experience
noise
complaints
that
may
be
outside
of
our
jurisdiction,
such
as
dot
projects
or
the
veterans
administration,
things
that
are
not
within
our
our
jurisdiction.
F
But
we've
tried
to
bridge
that
gap
for
complainants
so
that
we
can
get
them
good
information,
even
though
we
can't
address
their
their
concern
directly
and
finally,
as
far
as
administration
and
we,
the
noise
advisory
board,
was
established
in
december
2021.
It's
made
up
of
seven
members.
We
currently
meet
monthly
and
staff
present
staff
report
each
month
and
provide
data
back
to
the
noise
advisory
board.
F
Their
role
is
to
assess
the
effectiveness
of
the
ordinance
and
our
staff's
role
in
that
regard
is
to
provide
them
feedback
and
data
as
to
what
we're
we're
seeing
trend
wise.
So
the
main
sort
of
areas
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
this
morning,
residential
business
operations,
waste
haulers
construction
and
then
public
space
and
buskers.
F
Most
of
these
are
general
to
the
city
at
large,
but
I
have
tried
to
be
more
specific
about
cbd
concerns
within
that.
F
So
residential
complaints
remain
our
largest
section
of
our
category
of
noise
complaints
where
we
have
a
single-family
complaint,
we're
typically
able
to
contact
the
property
owner
and
and
address
it
with
a
courtesy
letter
to
them
or,
if
they're
not
actually
owner-occupied,
they
would
be
the
landlord
in
that
regard.
Most
of
these
things
are
resolved
in
in
in
human
interaction,
and
we
have
had
one
citation
that
was
been
issued
in
a
residential
scenario
so
far.
Our
goal
here
is
never
to
be
punitive.
F
Our
goal
and
the
goal
of
the
ordinance
and,
and
certainly
the
goal
of
staff,
is
always
to
seek
to
gain
voluntary
compliance
by
people
interacting
with
each
other,
communicating
with
each
other
and
being
good
neighbors,
so
for
multi-family
residential
complexes.
We
we
today
think
we
have
about
67
total
within
the
city
and
first
half
of
two:
that's
a
lot,
so
we
have
ongoing
great
relationships.
F
I
have
to
give
a
lot
of
credit
to
daniel
in
this
role.
He
has
spent
an
extraordinary
amount
of
time
and
energy,
creating
really
good
partnerships
with
both
private
property
management
and
also
the
housing
authority.
They've
all
been
wonderful
partners
in
this.
They
know
who
is
in
an
apartment.
We
don't
know
who's
in
apartment
2c.
They
they
know
their
complexes
really
well,
and
so
we've
been
able
to
partner
with
them
to
again
engage
and
address
being
a
good
neighbor,
and
you
know
actually
reducing
the
number
of
repeat
complaints.
F
We
have
noticed,
since
our
efforts
start
definitely
a
reduction
in
in
repeat
complaints
that
have
been
coming
through
both
these
private
and
housing
authority
complexes
and
for
business
operations.
I'll
talk
briefly
about
non-public
space,
because
they're,
two
very
different,
so
in
the
central
business
district
in
non-public
space
that
would
be
bars.
Restaurants,
you
know
body
shops,
any
other
business,
commercial
business.
The
ordinance
now
regulates
noise
from
those
activities
with
a
decibel
level
and
so
for
downtown
and
cbd.
We
have
a
decibel
level.
F
Daytime
is
7
a.m,
to
10
p.m,
and
that's
sunday
through
thursday,
and
then
the
ordinance
allows
an
additional
hour
on
friday
and
saturday.
So
we
have
7
a.m,
to
11
p.m
and
again
a
large
part
of
our
work
has
been
proactive
work.
We're
trying
to
work
with
businesses,
respond
to
them,
offer
them
through
our
web
page,
but
also
just
by
meeting
people
in
the
community
for
us
to
come
out
and
work
with
them.
F
We
went
from
a
non
dis,
decibel
scenario
to
a
decibel
scenario
and-
and
some
people
are
unsure
about
that-
and
that's
that's
perfectly
okay,
that's
that's
what
we're
there
to
help
with,
and
so
we
have
done
that
for
a
number
of
businesses
along
lexington
avenue
and
where
we've
gone
and
helped
with
the
bar
that
was
doing
some
karaoke
and
we
took
some
levels
across
the
street
from
them.
We
worked
with
their
staff
to
make
sure
they
were
in
compliance
and
again
being
a
good
neighbor
in
that.
F
In
that
case,
we
actually
asked
them
to
just
go
ahead
and
operate
as
normal
and
and
we
would
work
backwards
if
we
needed
to,
and
in
that
case
they
were
actually
well
below
their
limit,
but
again,
a
great
good
faith
on
both
both
parties
there
to
be
able
to
collaborate
and
work
together
to
ensure
compliance
and
to
ensure
that
that
everyone
was
being
considered
and
being
good
neighbors.
F
We
will
continue
our
outreach
with
with
stakeholders.
I
have
a
letter
ready
to
go
out
to
the
asheville
independent
restaurants
and
this
week,
to
just
let
them
know
again.
It's
patio
season.
People
are
the
weather's
getting
nicer
if
they
have
music
and
they'd
like
us
to
come
along
and
just
make
sure
they're,
they're,
okay
and
within
limits,
we're
happy
to
do
that.
F
The
second
part
of
that
correspondence
will
be
that,
if
they're
having
concerns
about
about
noise
for
their
patrons
or
for
their
guests,
to
please
contact
us
again
and
we'll
come
out-
and
this
is
probably
the
best
way
for
daniel
and
I
to
work
because
the
the
proactive
is
far
more
effective
than
reactive
and
and
just
resource
wise.
It's
a
it's.
A
better
use
of
our
time
response
based
field
work
has
picked
up.
F
We
have
a
key,
a
few
music
venues
within
the
cbd
who
do
have
the
sound
exceedance
permits
for
music
events,
I'm
happy
to
say
they've
all
been
compliant.
Everything
has
been
good
in
that
regard
daniel
and
I
have
been
out
the
last
three
weekends,
friday
and
saturday
night,
till
the
wee
hours
and.
F
And,
and
that
will
continue
over
the
summer
months,
obviously
that's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
busier
for
us,
but
our
approach
will
always
be
voluntary
compliance.
We
we
met
with
some
of
the
music
professionals
through
amp
a
few
weeks
ago
and
just
reassured
them
we're
not
in
in
the
business
of
coming
in
and
shutting
somebody's
event
down.
F
We
really
want
to
work
with
them
and
make
space
for
everybody
so
that,
particularly
as
we're
coming
out
of
covet,
I
do
believe
that
we're
going
to
see
some
more
noise
complaints
this
summer
people
are
out
and
about
a
little
bit
more
and
and
that's
been
certainly
a
reduced
activity
for
the
last
couple
of
of
seasons,
so
waste
haulers,
wastefullers
under
the
ordinances
is
regulated
by
time
in
the
cbd.
It's
5
a.m,
to
7
p.m
and
in
in
all
other
zoning
districts,
so
any
other
commercial
area.
F
They
are
regulated
from
7
a.m,
to
7
p.m.
If
they're
within
100
feet
of
a
residential
zoning
district
in
total,
today,
we've
had
39
complaints
about
waste
management.
We
have
established
very
successful
relationships
with
all
the
waste
haulers
in
town.
This
began
as
part
of
the
engagement
process.
While
we
were
doing
the
revisions
and
happy
to
say,
we've
had
a
98
resolution
right.
F
F
Their
complaints
were
that
their
trash
was
being
picked
up
at
6,
30
or
6
6
45,
under
their
the
ordinance
cbd,
has
that
that
extra
hour
from
five
to
seven
and
that
was
really
decided
on
and
that
decision
come
to
due
to
the
the
nature
of
navigating
in
and
out
of
smaller
narrower
streets
downtown,
but
also
trying
to
do
that
before
the
rest
of
us
get
downtown,
and
so,
in
those
cases
we
did
reach
out
to
the
complainants,
we
did
check
based
on
the
addresses
that
these
addresses
were
within
cbd,
and
so
in
this
case,
although
there
was
a
complaint,
the
actual
ways
trawler
was
in
compliance
with
the
requirements
of
the
ordinance.
F
The
next
section
is
construction.
A
little
bit
like
waste
construction
is
regulated
by
time
of
day
and
also
day
of
week.
So,
regardless
of
where
you
are
within
city
limits,
construction
is
regulated
monday
through
saturday
at
work
not
to
begin
before,
7am
and
not
to
continue
after
7pm.
F
Any
work
outside
those
hours
requires
an
after
hours
permit
and
the
after
hours.
Permit
really
requires
the
contractor,
in
this
case,
to
give
notification
to
neighbors
within
500
feet
that
there
may
be
an
activity.
What
we
typically
see
with
after
hours
permits-
and
we
do
tend
to
see
an
increase
of
them
in
summer
months-
is
to
do
with
concrete
pours
and
that's
to
do
with
heat
and
humidity.
So,
typically,
those
activities
need
to
take
place
at
2
a.m.
3
a.m,
and
we
do
require
the
contractor
to
submit
that
a
good
week
in
advance.
F
So
staff
has
an
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
they've
met
their
obligations
as
far
as
notifying
neighbors
and
being
available
and
having
contact
information
to
those
neighbors.
It's
unfortunately,
one
of
those
you
know
things
that
that
goes
along
with
construction,
and
I
do
anticipate
we'll
be
looking
at
a
couple
of
those
just
in
the
cbd,
with
the
the
new
hotel
activity
on
haywood
street.
F
I've
been
in
touch
with
their
contract
with
their
engineer
and
their
their
on-site
superintendent,
just
to
give
them
some
advice
on
how
to
submit
that
application
and
what
sort
of
things
we'll
need
in
that
and
to
that
regard
again,
I'm
going
back
through,
but
the
home,
the
asheville
home
builders,
association
and
also
as
dsd.
We
have
a
great
opportunity
and
ability
to
reach
out
to
contractors
through
our
permitting
system.
F
So
I
also
have
some
correspondence
going
out
to
them
early
next
week
to
just
remind
them
of
their
obligations,
as
seen
as
this
is
more
likely
time
of
year
that
we'll
see
those
after
hours
of
requests
to
come
in,
remind
them
and
also
we've
put
in
our
correspondence.
F
F
Dsd
is
in
a
unique
situation
and
that
we
issue
builder
building
permits.
So
we
have
a
great
way
and
resources
to
access
those
contractors
and
to
be
able
to
and
speak
with
them
if
they
are
beginning
or
ending
after
those
hours.
I
will
say
that
you
know
their
they're
very
responsive
and
very
respectful.
Many
of
these
people
live
in
in
our
city
and
are
part
of
our
communities
too,
and
any
of
them
that
we've
reached
out
to,
with
the
exception
of
one
and
once
we've
asked
them
to
just.
F
F
That
regard
little
problem
there
and
some
some
of
the
construction
noise
comes
to
us
and
and
when
we
follow
up
people,
don't
know
where
it
is
so,
and
you
know
sometimes
it
may
be
outside
the
city
limits
or
it
may
be
a
one-off,
and
in
some
cases
we
have
had
some
construction
that
has
been
d.o.t
or
va,
which
again
we
don't
have
any
jurisdiction
over.
But
we've
tried
to
connect
those
folks
with
and
those
agencies,
so
they
can
give
them
some
information.
F
So
public
space
within
the
cbd
is
is
of
big
interest
to
you
as
a
group,
I'm
sure,
and
so
public
noise
from
public
space
within
the
cbd
is
regulated
through
the
noise
disturbance
standard,
which
the
five
categories
that
staff
would
look
at
is
the
the
time
of
day
the
noise
volume
and
intensity
of
the
noise.
F
Whether
the
noise
has
been
enhanced
by
amplification,
megaphone
or
any
other
mechanical
means
the
frequentness
and
duration
of
the
noise
and
the
nature
of
the
zoning
in
the
area
so
daniel
and
I
started
last
and
fall
to
really
try
and
establish
relationships
with
the
buskers
get
to
know
them
before
a
lot
of
them
left
for
the
winter
months,
and
we
certainly
want
to
have
a
good
partnership
with
them.
I
think
we've
done
a
good
job
with
that.
We
really
didn't
want
our
first
encounter
with
people
to
be
about
noise.
F
F
So
we
have
done
that
with
both
the
busking
community
and
also
with
some
of
the
public
demonstrators
and
activism,
preachers
that
tend
to
gather
in
the
in
the
area.
The
the
western
portion
of
pack
square
and
we've
also
updated
the
street
performer
guide,
so
that
we've
got
the
new
ordinance
in
there.
The
new
ordinance
really
doesn't
affect
public
space
that
noise
disturbance
standard
still
applies,
but
we
did
want
to
update
our
information
so
that
dana
and
john
fullman
were
not
on
them
and
daniel,
and
I
were
on
there
as
contacts
contacts.
F
We've
also
worked
with
with
live
records
of
the
the
busker
collective
to
give
him
some
of
his
information
and
there
so
that
that
people
can
contact
him
also.
So
as
far
as
of
his
first
total
complaint
since
september
15th
and
for
public
space
specific
to
cbd
and
we
have
had
50
complaints,
26
of
them
have
been
about
protesters
or
activists.
F
18
of
them
have
been
about
buskers,
six
are
of
unknown
and
37
of
those
50
complaints
did
mention
amplification.
So
I
think
that's
an
important
fact
and
the
challenges
that
we
face
as
staff
is
the
subjective
standard.
Is
it's
hard
to
you
know
you?
Can
you
can
engage
with
somebody
and
once
you
get
in
the
car
and
walk
away?
We
we've
know
unless
there's
good
faith
on
both
parts.
We've
no
way
to
know
that
that
that
engagement
is
going
to
have
been
effective
and
availability
for
us
to
be.
F
You
know
downtown
for
six
or
eight
hours
on
a
saturday
or
sunday
or
even
a
friday
is,
is
difficult
and
we're
also
trying
to
stack
ongoing
monitoring
to
other
sources
around
the
city
music,
particularly
this
time
of
year.
So
another
challenge
that
we
have,
we
notice
a
lot
of
complainants
when
we
circle
back
to
them
and
respond
to
a
complaint
there.
There
is
a
little
bit
of
a
mix
between
content,
particularly
with
some
of
the
the
activists
versus
volume.
F
Again
we
have,
we
have
no,
we
have.
We
have
nothing.
We
can
offer
on
content
at
all,
as
you
well
know,
and
then
the
other
thing
that
we've
noticed
is
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
activity
about
vehicle
noise
in
that
area
of
downtown.
In
that
pack
square
area,
the
does
retain
the
the
the
it
does:
retain
apd's
responsibility
with
moving
vehicles
and
obviously
for
safety
reasons.
F
We're
not
we're
not
trained
officers,
we're
civilian
staff,
so
so
that
can
be
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge,
and
I
do
just
from
our
observations.
Sometimes
when
vehicle
noise
increases,
so
the
amplification
increases.
So
that's
definitely
a
challenge
and
we
expect
to
see.
B
Daniel
while
we
wait
for
granny
to
come
back
online,
that
dashboard
is
is,
is
pretty
neat.
I
got
a
couple
quick
questions.
If
you
don't
mind,
we
can
start
to
drill
down.
I
think
she
was
gonna
go
into.
You
know,
expecting
to
increase
in
complaints
in
the
summer
and
and
so
on
and
and
go
from
there,
but
regarding
the
noise
complaints,
I'm
just
curious,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
calls
looks
like
that
are
being
received
between
nine
and
twelve
nine
at
night
to
twelve.
B
In
the
morning
it
looks
like
there's,
probably
I'm
wondering
how
much
overlap
there
is
between
people
calling
at
nine
when
the
noise
ordinance
actually
kicks
in
at
ten
or
eleven
depending
on.
If
it's
the
weekend,
you
know
is
some
of
this.
Just
educating
the
public
on
what
our
noise
ordinance
actually
is
is.
G
That
a
lot
of
what's
going
on
yeah,
so
a
lot
of
times
when,
when
the
late
night
calls
come
in,
it
usually
has
to
do
with
either
vehicle
noise.
Very
rare
I
mean
we've
had
interactions
with
a
lot
of
the
activists
and
the
preachers
and
so
forth.
We
kind
of
hold
them
to
the
same
standard.
As
the
buskers
with
saying
hey
it's
10
o'clock,
I
mean
we've
literally
gotten
into
a
more
of
a
heated
discussion
with
the
feels
like
well
I'll,
lower
my
volume.
G
I
just
want
to
be
here
another
hour
like
no,
you
can't.
We
hold
you
to
that
standard
of.
If
you're
going
to
be
presenting-
or
you
know,
they're
not
musicians,
so
they're
not
performing,
but
whatever
your
your
art
is
of
what
you're
doing
we're
going
to
hold
you
to
that
same
standard
of
10
o'clock
and
and
that
actually
just
happened
about
two
weeks
ago,
where
granny
and
I
were
out
for
monitoring
some
other
outdoor
performances
and
we
actually,
it
was
1001
and
we're
like.
No,
you
are
done.
G
We
officially
shut
him
down,
but
what
ends
up
happening
after
10
o'clock?
Is
people
have
been
drinking?
They
get
in
their
cars,
mufflers
revving
motorcycles.
That
adds
to
that
and
of
course,
people
are
calling
in
saying
there's
a
noise
complaint,
but
I
was
growing
you're
right
before
we
lost
her
crying.
I
think
you
had
a
power.
Sorry.
G
When
it
comes
to
that,
we
have
to
then
educate
of
saying
we
are
not
sworn
officers
for
safety
reasons.
As
long
you
know
just
like
drunk
driving.
If
your
key
is
in
the
ignition
and
your
car
is
on,
that
is
a
moving
vehicle.
We
don't,
we
don't
have
the
authority
to
question
or
pull
over
a
moving
vehicle
and
that
gets
a
little
confusing
because
it
is
noise,
but
it's
a
problem.
G
One
one
thing
leads
to
another,
so
the
police
still
do
have
jurisdiction
in
that
of
pulling
over
and
imagine
we
pull
somebody
over
because
they're
making
noise
and
we
realize
they're
really
drunk.
What
are
we
gonna?
Do
I
can't
arrest
you?
I
can't
just
say:
hey:
stop
revving
your
engine,
you
know
that
goes
into
other
areas
of
you
know.
You
know
you
know.
G
Cars
are
supposed
to
have
mufflers
and
so
forth
way
out
of
the
scope
of
what
we
do,
but
it
is
part,
engagement,
those
really
late
night,
calls
of
that
really
don't
have
to
do
with
buskers
if
they
are
venues
granny
and
I
have
done
a
really
good
job
of
being
proactive.
We've
had
two
particular
venues
in
downtown
where
they've
been
great
to
work
with
we've
gone
with
measurements.
G
We
take
timestamp
photos
of
when
we're
taking
the
decibel
levels
because
we
say
crank
it
up,
like
your
dj
went
crazy,
so
we
can
measure
out
of
where
you
are
and
then,
when
somebody
does
call
in
we'll
say
we
have
a
timestamp
for
that.
We
told
him
to
do
it
just
to
see,
engage
and
then
lower
them
to
where
they
are,
and
they
have
just
been.
The
venues
have
been
nothing
but
fantastic
to
work
with
that's
great.
B
That's
great
well,
thank
you,
granny.
I
think
I
think
you've
presented
the
the
bulk
of
your
yes.
G
F
I
would
just
say
to
to
finish
up
is:
firstly,
thank
you
again
for
for
for
allowing
us
to
to
be
here
and
and
present
to
you,
and
we
really,
I,
I
think
a
lot
of
you
on
this
call
know
this
this.
The
success
of
this
is
really
a
collaborative
effort
from
many
many
people
and
we've
had
some
great
experiences
with
many
many
people,
not
just
in
the
cbd
but
throughout
the
city,
and
if
you
know
somebody
who's,
got
a
concern
and
and
wants
to
have
somebody
come
out
and
have
us
come
out.
F
Please
just
reach
out
our
emails.
Are
there
our
phone
numbers?
Are
there
we're
happy
to
do
that?
It
it
it?
You
know
it
builds
on
all
that
good
will
and
within
a
community
to
have
that
sort
of
work
take
place
under
those
circumstances.
We
definitely
want
to
continue
that.
Please
reach
out.
If
there's
something
more
specific,
if
you
look
at
the
dashboard
and
you've
got
a
question,
you
know,
please
shoot
us
an
email.
F
This
is
this
is
what
we're
here,
as
you
know,
staff
to
do
and
work
to
do
it
and
we'll
we'll
continue
to
work
hard
with
these
partnerships,
and
you
know
we
will
obviously,
over
the
summer
months,
be
collecting
a
lot
of
data
about
noise
and
much
of
which,
I
think
will
be
in
in
the
downtown
area
just
by
nature
of
the
sort
of
activity
and
tourism,
and
that
we
have
downtown
that
will
all
be
going
back
to
our
noise
advisory
board
too,
and
but
we
certainly,
you
know,
are
happy
to
receive
feedback
from
this
particular
commission,
because
I
know
you're
very
tuned
into
and
what
happens
downtown,
so
we're
happy
to
meet
with
you
again
or
meet
with
working
groups
whatever
you
would
like.
D
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
both
for
being
here
this
morning
and
I
can
relate
to
the
rest
of
the
commission
that
I've
been
able
to.
D
You
know
just
work
on
the
street
and
directly
working
with
the
noise
administration,
folks
and
they're
doing
a
great
job,
and
so
we
really
appreciate
the
level
of
engagement,
the
level
of
trust
that
you
built,
and
you
know
the
the
meeting
that
actual
music
professionals
hosted
with
a
bunch
of
the
venue
owners-
and
you
know
that
was
it-
was
just
awesome
to
be
able
to
see
to
be
able
to
really
work
collaboratively
together,
and
so
you
know
where
the
when
we
were
when
we
were
building
the
noise
ordinance
together.
D
You
know
we
got
to
the
end
of
it.
You
know
I
said
okay
well,
let's
now
we
just
got
to
monitor
enforcement.
Make
sure
that
where
the
rubber
meets
the
road
that
we're
we're,
seeing
our
goals
being
executed
here
and
we're
having
building
good
relationships
and
so
far,
I
can
give
nothing
but
thumbs
up
to
everybody.
That's
been
working
together
both
from
the
music
industry
side
and
from
the
city
staff
side.
So
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
being
involved.
I
have
no
concerns
to
file
right
now,
other
than
my
god.
G
That's
usually
it
it's
and
and
it's
in
writing,
because
we
have
many
ways:
anyone
can
reach
us
phone
email
online.
We,
our
phone
numbers,
are
on
the
website,
so
there's
every
any
way,
shape
or
form
for
equity
purposes
that
anyone
can
reach
us
and
it's
usually
in
writing.
I
don't
like
what
they're
saying
I
don't
like
what
they're
saying
I
don't
agree
with
it.
Blah
blah
blah
make
them
stop
and
then
at
the
end,
they're
amplified
it's
like.
So
you
want
me
to
control
or
or
censor
something
that
I
cannot.
G
D
F
Well,
andrew
and
and
thank
you
for
your
continued
support
and
and
we
will
continue
to
engage
with
anybody,
who's
amplified
downtown
and
I
think
we're
we're
going
to
move
into
a
new
phase
with
some
of
the
protest
groups
to
try
and
actually
meet
with
them
outside
the
hours
that
they're
doing
what
they're
doing.
So.
F
It
can
be
a
little
bit
more
focused
and
we
can,
you
know,
try
and
establish
some
goodwill
there
as
far
as
the
work
that
we
do
in
getting
them
to
an
acceptable
volume,
but
then
having
to
get
back
in
our
car
and
go
somewhere
else.
Having
having
some
some
faith
there,
that
that,
when
we've
made
that
engagement
effort
that
that
will
be
contained.
H
H
G
We
discuss
this
with
our
board
every
month.
You
think
I'll
just
always
use
the
example
of
waste
hauler,
for
example,
in
some
situations.
I'll
give
you
an
easy
example.
Yesterday
we
had
a
complaint
about
a
busker
granny
and
I
happened
to
be
in
the
office.
We
were,
we
went
met
with
the
bus.
We've
never
met
him
before
super
nice.
He
was,
he
was
charming.
He
was
apologetic.
G
He
wanted
us
to
convey
his
apologies
to
the
business.
He
was
bothering
the
nicest
interaction
we
could
ever
have.
If,
if
this
type
of
complaint
came
in
every
day,
we
wouldn't
have
a
job,
it
couldn't
be
any
better.
So
that
was
resolved
in,
I
would
say
three
hours,
but
now
you
take
say,
for
example,
waste
hauler,
well
waste
holiday
for
the
on
most
parts.
It
gets
picked
up
once
a
week,
so
we
get
the
complaint
on
week.
One
we
do
our
engagement,
we
do
the
whatever
we
have
to
do
week.
G
Two
we'll
see
did
something
happen.
Are
we
successful?
If
maybe
there
was
a
mishap
or
miscommunication
we'll
go
into
week?
Three,
where
we
might
have
to
issue
some
sort
of
warning
or
so
and
then
week,
four
to
see
so
basically
something
that
we
can
handle
in
three
hours
on
one
day
will
take
us
a
month.
H
I'm
not
like,
I
think
that
there
is
a
difference
between
measuring
and
presenting
it
to
setting
up.
The
standard
of
a
case
needs
to
be
solved
within
five
hours
like
I
just
want
to
separate,
like
I'm
not
saying
like
what
I'm
saying
is
like.
I
would
like
to
see
the
transparency
right
because,
like
if
I'm
looking
at
the
organizer,
like
your
goal,
is
to
maintain
a
level
of
noise
and
resolve
these
issues
as
soon
as
possible,
so
like
the
definition
of
as
soon
as
possible.
H
F
H
Percent
or
about
ten
percent
of
the
the
complaints
get
the
police
involved
is
that
does
that
sound.
I
H
I
F
Well
that
we
have
a
lot
of
good
partnerships
tal,
I
think
that's
again,
part
of
good
relationships
and
the
the
waste
haulers
have
been
super
to
work
with,
and
we,
the
the
construction,
the
general
contractors
have
been
really
good
to
work
with,
I
always
say,
of
the
noise
ordnance,
particularly
with
construction.
F
The
presence
of
the
ordnance
existence
of
the
ordinance
doesn't
stop
that
work
happening
before
seven
or
after
seven
necessarily,
but
it
definitely
stops
it
happening
in
a
a
second
time,
and
I
think
that's
that
in
in
itself
is,
has
been
very
successful
back
to
your
question
it
can.
It
can
take
a
long
time
with
with
where
we
have
those
established
relationships
like
with
the
waste
management,
our
waste
providers.
F
We
we're
in
touch
with
them.
The
day
we
get
the
complaint
the
morning
we
get
the
complaint
same
with
general
contractors.
Sometimes,
if
it's
a
resident
to
resident
it
may
take
us
four
or
five
days
to
try
and
contact
a
property
owner,
we
won't
be
able
to
get
in
contact
with
them
in
most.
G
F
With
property
owners
like
that,
we
have
to
write
to
them.
We
have
no
way
to
know
what
their
phone
number
is
or
to
find
that.
So
it
does
vary,
and
I
would
say
that,
with
without
exception,
there's
no
complaint.
That's
not
addressed
that
same
day
that
it's
received
now
whether
we
can
actually
move
that
on
to
determine
whether
we
open
an
investigation
that
that
is
where
it's
reliant
on
that
party
coming
back
to
us
or
a
complainant
coming
back
to
us.
F
So
there
are
some
complaints
that
come
to
us
even
through
apd,
where
there's
no
contact
information
and
we're
just
simply
not
able
to
follow
up
with
that,
and
so
it
it
really
varies.
It's
it's
hard
to
to
put
a
timeline
on
them.
Obviously,
the
sooner
we
can
get
them
resolved
the
better,
but
sometimes
it
takes
time,
and
sometimes
you
think
something's
resolved
and
six.
F
H
B
Okay,
based
on
your
work
to
date,
are
there
any
recommendations
from
you
as
staff
on
any
revisions
to
the
noise
ordinance?
Because
you
know
when
we
put
this
in
place,
it
was
kind
of
a
let's
try
it.
Let's
see
how
things
work
and
I
know
we
need
to
give
it
at
least
a
year
and
really
work
through
the
summer
months,
but
I'm
just
curious.
You
know
from
your
perspective
and
for
us
reporting
back
to
council.
B
You
know
how
would
you
say
it's
going
and
are
there
any
changes
you
would
you
would
begin
to
contemplate
and
maybe
is
there
any
additional
data
we
need
to
gather
as
you
contemplate
those
changes.
F
That's
a
great
question:
brian.
I
think
this
summer
is
going
to
be
a
a
very
full
basket
of
data.
For
us,
we've
got
some
new
pieces
of
the
ordinance
like
the
sound
exceedance.
Permit
is
a
totally
new
thing.
The
decibel
levels
for
businesses
is
a
totally
new
thing,
so
I
think
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
data
come
in
over
the
summer
months.
I
would
think
by
sort
of
october
we'll
be
in
a
better
position
to
really
look
at
that
data.
F
I
think
the
the
sections
like
construction
and
waste
management
there.
Those
things
happen
all
year
round
really
and
waste
management
happens
every
day
and-
and
I
think
we've
actually
got
a
really
good
handle
on
that.
I
would
say
that
that's
a
that
that
that
is
has
been
a
very
successful
component
and
our
work
in
that
regards
been
successful.
F
E
I'll
just
share
as
part
of
this
discussion
working
with
the
public
space
management
committee
over
the
past
couple
months.
I
know
that
there
has
been
several
comments
brought
up
about
amplification
within
the
downtown,
and
so
it's
I'm
sure.
I
know
that
it's
something
you
guys
are
looking
at,
but
just
to
let
everyone
here
on
the
downtown
commission
know
I
I'm
finding
that
to
be
the
most
common
concern
at
this
point
in
terms
of
how
things
can
be
managed.
F
And
dana
our
data
is
very
much
in
line
with
that
of
50
complaints.
37
mentioned
amplification,
so
absolutely,
and
if
you
all,
as
as
that
group
would
ever
want
to
meet
with
us
again
we're
happy
to
do
that
too.
Also-
and
I
do
think
it's
it's
it's
something
that
we
hear
back
from
complainants-
a
lot
also.
B
This
is
very
good,
any
other
comments
or
questions
for
daniel
or
grenier
go
ahead.
Andrew
yeah.
D
G
Actually
that
that
working
group
that's
one
of
their
agenda,
one
of
their
items
to
prioritize
different
things
on
the
web
page
yeah.
D
F
A
I
am
we
had
a
very
long
meeting
on
april
21st
and
we
reviewed
four
projects.
Two
of
them
were
formal
design
review.
A
One
was
the
21
governor's
view
road
redwood
commons,
which
is
going
to
be
70
residential
units
of
affordable
senior
housing,
which
is
great
that
was
approved
with
conditions
and
they're
going
to
actually
come
back
to
us
and
work
with
us
informally
on
the
design,
which,
I
think
is
a
good
thing,
and
the
second
formal
review
was
31
art
full
way,
which
is
a
mixed
use,
building
with
34
residential
units
and
27
lodging
units,
and
that
one
was
approved
and
informally.
A
We
reviewed
226
hillyard
avenue,
which
is
going
to
be
a
six
story,
mixed
use
building
and
we
reviewed
the
72
broadway
street,
create
project
again
and
they're.
Gonna
come
back
for
another
informal
review
this
month
as
well,
and
that
was
that
covers
it.
I
B
Very
good:
okay,
asheville
downtown
association,
megan.
C
Yep
good
morning,
our
focus,
mostly
the
last
couple
of
months,
has
been
on
getting
events
going
again,
so
we
had
a
very
successful
april,
downtown
after
five,
that's
a
new
date
for
us,
so
we're
doing
six
downtown
after
fives
this
year.
Next
one
is
actually
a
week
from
today.
We've
got
a
mix
of
local
and
touring
bands
throughout
the
summer
through
september.
C
We
also
last
weekend's
steep
canyon
rangers
show,
which
was
very
successful
and
are
working
on
the
big
fourth
of
july
event.
So
all
of
those
are
coming
up
soon
and
fortunately
I
have
hired
an
event
manager.
So
it's
making
that
work
much
much
easier
and
just
one
other
thing
I
I
want
to
talk
about,
which
is
our
what
we've
called
a
walkability
study
in
the
past.
C
We
used
to
do
it
every
other
year,
where
we
send
teams
out
and
sort
of
separate
downtown
into
sections
and
ask
them
to
sort
of
audit
the
pedestrian
experience
in
downtown.
Last
time
we
did.
It
was
fall
of
2019,
so
it's
definitely
time
to
bring
that
back.
We
were
able
to
use
an
app
that
the
city
actually
produced
through
their
gis
office
and
it
worked
awesome
made
it
really
just
a
lot
easier
to
feed
that
information
directly
into
into
that
system,
so
b.
C
We're
looking
at
doing
that
in
september,
we'll
reach
out
to
you
guys,
love
to
have
some
help
takes.
You
know
dozens
of
volunteers
to
make
quick
work
of
it
and
we'll
talk
more
about
it
as
as
that
gets
nearer.
But
you
know
we'd
love
to
have
some
downtown
commissioners
participate
and
we'll
definitely
work
with
the
public
space
management
task
force
to
see.
If
there
are
things
that
we
should
be
adding
on
to
the
list
of
like
what
are
the
things
we're
looking
at.
C
B
Awesome,
thank
you.
Thank
you
is
the
I'm
sorry
I
I'm
getting
distracted
chasing
scrolls
in
my
head
is
that
when
you're
talking
about
lighting
downtown,
is
that
going
to
be
part
of
like
a
aren't?
We
doing
a
survey
of
dana
help
me
I'm
looking
at
you,
like.
You
know
what
I'm
talking
about
public
streets
and
weren't.
We
talking
about
that
at
one
time
about
reviewing
some
of
that.
E
Yeah,
the
issue
of
lighting's
come
up,
definitely
some
feedback
that
we
should
be
thinking
about
lighting
in
public
space
a
little
bit
differently,
and
you
know
potentially
incorporating
that
more
formally
in
our
review
processes
for
private
developments,
but
yeah,
I
think
we
have.
I
think,
including
it
as
part
of
the
walkability
study,
would
be
great.
B
E
B
Okay
right:
okay,
thank
you
all
right,
which
leads
us
into
the
homeless
initiatives.
I
think
megan
and
robin
you
guys
have
been
tag
team
in
that
one.
I
don't
know
which
one
of
you
are
driving
driving.
The
report.
A
Doesn't
matter,
I
can
read
it
if
you
want
me
to
okay,
okay,
I
don't
really
know
how
to
present
this
information
the
best
for
this
group.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
really
want
me
to
read
this
whole
report.
I
don't
know
if
that's
how.
B
No,
oh,
we've
got
it
available
to
us
just
hit
the
highlights
kind
of.
Where
do
you
think
we
are
in
specifically
how
downtown
commission
you
know
needs
to?
If
you
need
us
to
push
on
things
I
mean.
Obviously
we
you
know
the
fact
that
they're
that
they
are
working
with
the
homelessness
consultant.
I
think
that
was
already
released.
Wasn't
it
sage,
didn't
you
already
release
that
contract?
You
know
so
there's
certain
things
that
are
just
happening.
This
is
information,
but
you
know
we're
really
robin
and
megan.
B
C
F
C
I
And
I'll
share
too
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
jump
on
in
on
this
update
what
we
learned.
We
were
able
to
ask
additional
questions
this
time,
so
the
new
number
is
637
again
around
250
or
so
are
veterans,
but
we
were
able
to.
This
is
a
hud
required
survey.
You
go
out
and
do
you
have
a
particular
framework
of
time
to
go?
Ask
this
and
we
are
looking
at
via
this
study.
Whether
or
not
doing
these
kind
of
point
in
time
counts.
More
often
might
help
with
more
data.
I
We
also
elaborated
questions.
They
were
voluntarily
answered.
So
the
group
that
answered
these
questions
was
down
166
people,
but
we
asked
questions
like
where
was
your
last
place
where
you
had
stable
housing
and-
and
that
was
something
we
were
kind
of
curious
about.
You
know-
are
people
relocating
here
because
we're
you
know,
we
have
great
services.
We
know
that
happens
with
our
veterans
hospital.
Is
that
happening
because
we're
talking
about
a
high
access,
shelter
and
so
on?
We
learned
that
24
25
of
that
group
had
their
last
stable.
I
Housing
was
from
another
state
and
I
believe
another
13
was
from
somewhere
in
north
carolina
and
maybe
about
four
or
five
percent
from
western
north
carolina,
which
is
interesting,
and
it's
our
first
data
set
like
that.
We
don't
have
previous
years
to
look
at
and
compare
if
that's
normal
or
not,
but
I
hope
that
we
will
going
forward
just
sharing
that
little
tidbit
on
the
homelessness
we
did
agree
and
assigned
the
contract.
It
is
funded
by
dogwood.
Health
trust
is
not
funded
by
the
city,
york's
taxpayers
and
that
should
be
pretty
informative.
A
I
A
No,
that's
great,
that's
great
as
far
as
what
the
downtown
commission
can
push
on.
I
don't
really
know.
I
Well,
so
I
was
going
to
update
dana
and
I
have
been
texting
about
whether
or
not
it
would
make
sense
for
me
to
have
an
ongoing
kind
of
agenda
item
for
updates
and
I'm
happy
to.
But
we
did
award
the
arpa
funding
tuesday
last
tuesday
and
we
did
get
the
650
thousand
dollars
for
24
7
restrooms
in
downtown.
I
What
you'll
notice
is
that
I
did
not
say
portland
loot,
because
what
is
up
for
discussion
now
is:
will
it
be
the
ones
next
to
megan's
office
on
haywood
street?
Will
it
be
the
ones
that
pack
pavilion
or
will
it
be
a
portland
lou?
We?
Basically
we
couldn't
get
consensus
on
what
it
should
be,
so
there
will
be
ongoing
discussion
about
what
it
should
be,
but
the
goal
is
24
7
restrooms
in
downtown.
H
Have
we
thought
about
what
the
impact
on
homelessness
downtown
is
going
to
be
with
the
restrooms?
Like?
Is
that?
Because
I'm
I'm
surprised
to
hear
that
the
number
has
gone
up,
because
when
we
had
the
presentation,
I
forgot
the
lady
that
presented
it,
and
I
said
the
number
has
gone
over
the
decade
that
she
said
that
the
numbers
stayed
stable
from
the
beginning
right
that
so.
I
H
I
I
would
say
I
you
know,
I
think
some
folks
have
that
concern,
but
it's
I'd
extend
it
to
like
tourism.
I
mean
you
can't
stop
what
people
hear
on
the
street
about
how
great
asheville
is,
or
this
we're
great,
because
we
have
you
know,
trails
in
the
woods,
it's
great,
because
we
have
services
for
those
in
need.
I
So
you
know
where
that
threshold
is
is,
I
hope
something
that
is
looked
at
in
the
study
and
that
when
we
realize
that
we
have
a
capacity
that
we
find
solutions
for
what
happens
beyond
that
capacity,
whether
it's
partnerships
in
other
cities
or
something.
But
you
know
we
can't
just
take
everything
on.
In
my
opinion,.
A
I
also
think
the
bathrooms
are
sanitation.
Exactly
I
mean
people
need
to
go
to
the
restroom.
I've
had
to
go
to
the
restroom
downtown
before
and
not
had
to
find
you
know
and
had
to
go
into
a
store
and
buy
a
drink
just
so
I
could
go
to
the
bathroom.
So
I
think
that
this
is
going
to
help
sanitation
and
the
people
are
already
there.
So
I
can't
imagine
a
homeless
person
is
going
to
say,
hey,
I'm
going
to
move
to
asheville
because
they
have
a
restroom
downtown.
E
C
D
Go
ahead,
andrew
yeah,
I
just
want
to
know,
I
think
that
there's
an
intrinsic
link
between
homelessness
and
panhandling
and
tourism
that
we're
never
going
to
be
able
to
unpack
right.
It's
just.
I
think
that
this
is
just
part
of
the
structure
of
tourism,
is
that
if
there
is
money
in
pockets
that
is
trying
to
find
places
to
go,
and
there
are
people
who
want
to
grab
and
people
who
want
to
get
their
piece
of
it.
D
So
I
I
think
that,
if
we're
going
to
say
hey
we're,
we
have
a
long-term
relationship
with
tourism,
then
we're
going
to
have
a
long-term
relationship
with
all
the
things
that
surround
tourism
and
paneling
handling
as
a
form
of
income
for
people
experiencing
houselessness.
I
think,
is
part
of
that
relationship
that
we're
going
to
have
with
tourism,
and
I
don't
think
we'll
ever
be
able
to
do
anything
about
that.
I
think
we
need
to
see
what
that
is
understand
what
that
component
of
it
is
and
operate
from
there
go
ahead.
H
Yeah
I
I
completely
agree,
though,
there's
nothing
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do,
and
I
think
that's
part
of
the
reason
I
had
an
issue
with
the
goal
of
eradicating
homelessness
in
the
in
the
last
report.
It's
just
an
unrealistic
expectation
to
really
do
that,
but-
and
I
have
no
objection
to
any
of
the
programs.
I
think
that
it's
it's
an
important,
it's
an
important
cause
and
we
should
be
there
to
support
all
the
people
that
need
us.
H
I
think
that
we
also
need
to
increase
the
support
around
it,
because
the
issue
you
know
that
I
have
when
I
go
downtown
with
my
kids-
is
not
that
they're.
Our
homelessness
is
that
that
is
that
they're
we
don't
feel
safe.
So
if
we're
increasing
the
services
orient
we're
seeing
an
increase
of
people
that
are
in
the
streets,
where
is
the
increase
to
kind
of
like
so
to
the
support
environment,
to
make
sure
that
we're
safe
downtown?
H
I
heard
that
only
five
police
officers
in
the
entire
asheville
police
department
actually
live
in
nashville,
including
the
chief
of
police,
by
the
way
that
doesn't
live
in
asheville.
So
what
are
we
doing
about
that?
And
allowing
basically
that
the
the
police
force
to
actually
grow
and
support
the
the
growth
in
homelessness
that
we're
seeing
downtown.
B
D
B
The
report
right
there
regarding
a
hope
day,
shelter
decreasing
calls
for
service
decreasing
criminal
activity.
There's
a
a
full
report.
That's
linked.
B
We've
got
a
yeah,
we've
got
a
lieutenant
mike
lamb
is
coming
next
month
and
we
can
ask
him
to
present
this
specifically
and
and
and
talk
about
that
specifically
because
it's
it's
difficult
to
understand
how
the
number
went
up
20
percent,
but
the
criminal
activity
is
going
down.
Of
course,
homelessness,
as
you
all
know,
as
andrew
already
said,
is
a
multivariate
a
multi-component.
B
I
Sure,
just
a
couple
brief
things
yesterday
was
also
the
luncheon
large
fundraiser
for
home
rebound
and
we
learned
that
they,
they
shared
a
bunch
of
data
too,
and
they
found
permanent
housing
for
over
200
people
in
the
community
in
the
last
year.
So
we're
seeing
people
come
we're.
Seeing
people
encounter
homelessness
while
they're.
Here
they
actually
shared
information
on
how
people
come
here,
whether
it
was
their
car
broke
down
here
and
they
never
left
or
they
moved
here
for
a
relationship
that
failed
or
whatever.
I
But
so
there
is
there
are.
There
is
a
constant
cycle
of
helping
people,
it's
not
ever
going
to
end
right,
but
I
wanted
to
speak
to
something
andrew
said
specifically,
because
while
there
is
some
relationship
to
panhandling
and
homelessness,
I
worry
that
grouping.
Those
two
things
together
is
not
is
not
practical
and
they
have
different
solutions
and
different
issues,
because
I
don't
think
that
the
panhandling
we
see
is
actually
indicative
or
representative
of
our
unhoused
population,
and
these
are
assumptions
we
do
not
know.
I
I
have
not
gone
to
people
and
asked,
but
I
don't.
We
know
that
you
know
there
are
mothers,
we
have
statistics,
we
have
mothers
with
children
fleeing
domestic
violence,
we
have
people
who
have
been
going
through
pisca
trying
to
avoid
eviction
and
now
are
unhoused.
We
know
enough
about
those
folks
they're
not
actually
out
panhandling,
they
have
jobs
and
they're
struggling
to
make
ends
meet.
So
I
don't
want
us
to
complete
the
issues
because
I
know
there's
an
ongoing.
I
D
What
I
was
talking
about
was
was
the
sort
of
the
public
perception
that
people
were
getting
around
the
safety
issues
in
particular,
and
it
does
get
lumped
in
with
it
does
get
lumped
in
with
homelessness
and
the
experience
of
being
unhoused,
and
in
this
way
I
think
that
the
the
data
that
the
story
tells
and
like
the
work
that
the
city
is
doing
is
disconnected
from
the
experiences
that
people
are
having
in
downtown,
that
around
safety
issues,
which
I
think
are
often
lumped
around
panhandling.
D
So
because
I
got
to
tell
you
when
people
when
I
get
panhandled
the
number
one
thing
I
say
which
is
always
welcome
is
man
I
live
here.
You
know
we
don't
have
any
money
here,
ask
a
tourist
and
every
time
the
response
is
like.
Oh
yeah,
I
got
it
brother,
how
you
doing,
and
so
that
you
know
that
they're
not
looking
to
panhandle
locals
they're,
always
looking
to
panhandle
tourists,
and
that
is
just
the
clearest
evidence
I
have
for
for
that,
and
so
that's
kind
of
how
I
wanted
to.
I
I
don't
think
we're
in
disagreement.
Yeah,
I'm
glad
you
shared
that,
because
it
is
really
a
complicated
issue
that
we're
going
to
need
to
act
on
and
just
as
a
personal
like
information,
I
really
worry
about
the
panhandling.
I
really
worry
about
the
ties
to
addiction
and
drug
use
and
then,
when
you
layer
it
in
with
fentanyl
in
the
community,
I
worry
that
us
not
acting
on
panhandling
is
akin
to
allowing
major
health
and
potential
death
risk
in
the
community
like
we
are
losing
citizens
because
we're
not
this
isn't
something
we're
handling
we're
watching.
A
And
I
think
another
issue:
I
think
that
the
homeless
population
is
going
to
continue
to
rise
for
a
while
with
them.
I
mean
if
the
the
notes
from
the
a
hack
meeting
average
home
prices
right
now
are
449
thousand
dollars
and
there
was
something
they
brought
up.
That
I
thought
was
very
interesting
and
it
made
me
think
of
andrew
last
time.
I
was
at
the
downtown
commission.
You
asked
what
we
were
doing
to
stop
house
people
from
becoming
unhoused
and
one
of
the
things
they
brought
up.
A
Was
they
they're
trying
to
get
cdgb
funds
to
go
towards
the
repair
of
pre-manufactured
homes
and
right
now,
pre-manufactured
homes
are
considered
motor
vehicles,
so
they
don't.
So
there
are
people
living
in
these
pre-manufactured
homes
that
can't
afford
repairs
and
once
their
pre-manufactured
home
is
unrepairable,
they
may
be
homeless.
So
there's
there's
a
lot
going
on
with
cost
of
living
right
now.
That
I
think
is,
is
making
this
a
big
deal
too.
I
When,
when
various
organizations
apply
for
cdbg
funding,
I
mean
we,
I
don't
recall
I'm
on
the
boards.
That
administrator,
I
don't
recall
us
saying
well,
you
can
we're.
I
A
I
D
Thanks
for
getting
into
the
weeds
on
that
robin
I
did
not,
I
did
not
know
that
that
is
worth.
That
is
worth
knowing
that
there's
because
that's
kind
of
classist
you
know.
Oh,
you
only
get
help
if
you,
if
you
can
afford
a
certain
type
of
home,
you
know.
That's,
that's
not
that's
not
great.
Obviously
you
know
we
got
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
our
help
reaches.
You
know
the
strata
that
it
needs
to
be
reaching
here,
and
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
significant
roadblock.
If
that's
true.
B
That
went
a
lot
longer
than
y'all
intended.
Thank
you
and,
and
we
we
actually
got
a
good
question
to
ask
lieutenant
mike
lamb
when
he
comes
next
week
next
month.
So
that's
good.
A
public
space
management
task
force.
E
I
can
start
andrew
and
you
can
fill
in.
I
knew
we'd
fill
the
time
here.
We
didn't
have
much
on
the
agenda,
but
it's
good.
It's
good
discussion,
so
the
public
space
management
task
force
has
met
a
few
times.
E
We
had
a
couple
site
visits
sidewalks
throughout
downtown,
and
then
we
had
a
meeting
just
last
week
in
person.
A
lot
of
all
of
those
meetings
were
kind
of
getting
re-engaged
with
thinking
about
public
space,
understanding,
each
other's
perspectives
and
how
we're
you
know
how
we're
thinking
about
public
space.
What
some
of
the
top
issues
are,
what
some
of
the
top
needs
are?
We
have
really
diverse
perspectives
participating
in
the
group
and
what
we're
working
towards.
E
So
we
have
this
public
space
management
framework
that
was
really
laid
out
to
represent
what
we
learned
in
this
big
public
survey
that
we
did
in
2019
and
it
outlines
some
of
the
benefits
and
some
of
the
concerns
for
various
uses
of
public
space,
and
so
what
we're
gonna
we
through
our
walks
and
in
our
last
meeting,
talked
about
you
know,
there's
like
16
things
highlighted
in
that
report
and
we
started
with
30
things
that
were
in
the
the
public
survey,
so
we're
kind
of
like
honing
in
on
where
there's
the
biggest,
both
benefits
and
issues
when
it
comes
to
uses
of
public
space,
but
really
like
what
needs
some
attention
and
focus
to
work
on,
and
so
the
group
we're
going
to
be
sending
out
a
way
for
for
the
task
force
to
provide
feedback
on
that
report
specifically
and
then
later
in
june.
E
Our
next
meeting
is
june
23rd.
I
think
it
is
computer.
Of
course.
Now
I
have
to
log
in
again
and
we're
going
to
be
working
with
christy
carter,
who's
going
to
help
us
help
facilitate
a
prioritization
process,
so
we're
hoping
to
hone
in
on
probably
the
top
three
three
focus
areas
in
public
space
that
could
be
you
know,
lighting
is
a
theme.
That's
coming
up.
Noise
is
a
theme.
E
That's
coming
up
merchandise
sales
like
intentional
activation
through
sales,
whether
that's
through
our
existing
push,
cart
program,
whether
that's
through
a
new
mechanism
to
allow
artists
and
buskers
to
be
able
to
sell
things
so
we'll
see
where
we
go
with
that
prioritization
and
yeah,
and
then
so
the
committee.
I
could
see
kind
of
a
more
formal
report
out
either
before
that
prioritization
process,
or
maybe
just
after
and
of
course,
I'm
sure
the
group
will
welcome
any
comments
or
feedback
that
you
have,
but
we
have
a
couple
and
megan's
participating
andrew's
participating.
E
D
Not
not
that
much.
I
will
say
that
I
think
some
of
our
work
is
highlighting.
Some
other
needs
that
we
have,
for
instance,
an
update
to
like
key
pedestrian
corridors,
because
it
seems
that
in
it
seems
like
that,
it's
going
to
be
a
component
to
how
these
recommendations
get
advanced.
D
So
it
seems
that
that
we're
we
are
finding
some
other
needs
that
are
gonna,
that
we
would
need
to
use
to
really
complete
this,
and
also,
you
know,
just
want
to
note
the
challenge,
which
is,
I
also
see
as
an
opportunity
in
that
every
you
know
on
these
walk-arounds
that
we
do
you
know
it.
It
does
seem
that
every
site
that
we
look
at
poses
a
distinctive
set
of
challenges
and
opportunities,
and
so
I
I
do
think
that
it's
going
to
be
really
hard
to
get
to
a
one.
D
Size
fits
all
based
recommendation
and
a
lot
of
the
stuff
is
going
to
be
have
to
be
sites
for
site-specific
work
and
so
being
able
to
set
something
up,
so
that
staff
can
do
really
good
site-specific
work.
That
is
still
consistent
around
the
cbd.
I
think
is
one
of
the
challenge,
but
I
think
also
it's
a
real
opportunity
to
make
some
really
interesting
place
making
stuff
happen.
So
I
just
want
to
just
want
to
point
that
out
that
that
is
definitely
something
that
I
see.
I
I
see
on
the
horizon.
D
As
far
as
where
the
report
is
gonna
is
gonna
go,
but
it's
been.
It's
been
enjoyable,
a
bit
of
work,
it's
nice
to
go
out
and
do
field
work
and
walk
around
town
with
everybody,
and
it's
amazing
how,
when
you
get
away
from
the
table-
and
you
get
on
the
sidewalk,
then
the
realizations
and
the
agreement
about
the
those
challenges
and
opportunities
really
do
seem
to
line
up.
So
I'm
a
big
big
fan
of
just
going
out
with
boots
on
the
ground
and
investigating
the
conditions
right
there.
E
Thanks
and
thanks
also
for
highlighting
updates
to
some
of
our
existing
guidelines
and
plans,
the
key
pedestrian
streets,
you
know
something
that
may
very
well
come
out
of
this.
That
we've
talked
about
for
quite
some
time
is
the
need
for
a
downtown
streetscape
plan
right
so
that
we
have
this
like
roadmap
and-
and
there
are
a
lot
of
areas
that
have
some
very
specific
opportunities
and
challenges.
E
Every
location
and
every
place
is
unique
at
the
same
time
like
can
we
look
at
that
and
identify
you
know,
key
opportunities
on
certain
corridors
or
limitations
on
other
corridors,
and
so
that
might
be
you
know,
I
do
feel
like
we're,
laying
a
good
groundwork
to
be
able
to
recognize
the
need
for
something
like
that
and
help
us
get
to
that
point.
E
Sure
you
guys
can
see
that
okay
pack
square
plaza
improvements,
so
we,
the
city
and
county
team,
interviewed
firms
last
month
and
we
are
currently
negotiating
with
the
top-ranked
firm,
exciting
to
note
that
we
are
launching
a
temporary
public
art
program
in
pack
square.
Plaza,
that's
going
to
happen
in
conjunction
with
this
planning
and
visioning
work,
but
we
will
be
providing
updates
to
the
art
and
cultural
commission
next
week.
We
expect
to
launch
that
program
in
the
next
one
to
two
weeks.
E
South
slope
vision,
plan
staff
had
planned
to
return
to
the
downtown
commission
this
month,
it's
going
to
be
next
month,
but
we
got
good
feedback
through
the
public
survey
and
staff
is
working
on
making
updates.
Sasha
did
go
to
the
planning
and
economic
development
committee
of
council
on
in
mid-april
got
some
good
feedback.
So
once
sasha
comes
back
to
the
downtown
commission
next
month,
you
guys
can
vote
formally
to
to
recommend
approval
that
will
proceed
to
city
council
likely
in
july.
E
So
staff
has
introduced
some
new
opportunities,
both
12-hour
monthly
parking,
so
you
don't
have
to
have
access
24
hours
a
day,
maybe
you're
only
working
in
the
evenings,
and
you
know
so
some
more
flexibility
and
some
more
affordable
pricing
with
that,
and
also
in
some
of
these
underutilized
areas,
new
monthly
spaces
that
are
50
and
60
dollars
per
month.
E
Just
flagging
a
couple.
I
know
we
got
a
question
about
one
of
these
areas
under
the
I-240
overpass
at
lexington.
E
Another
reason
we
made
those
monthly
is
because
we're
using
these
solar-powered
meters
and
they
weren't
getting
much
light
under
there,
but
I'm
happy
to
provided
a
link
to
more
information
on
the
monthly
parking
we
we
need
to
do
a
better
job.
Getting
the
word
out
about
this.
I
keep
saying
this,
but
I,
but
I
want
to
ask
for
you
guys
y'all's
help
too
in
getting
the
word
out
about
these
monthly
parking
opportunities,
so
we
have
most
of
it
available
on
the
website.
E
I
I
want
to
work
on
some
kind
of
more
intentional
promotions
of
this,
hopefully
very
soon
and
I'll.
I
want
to
make
sure
you
guys
are
aware
of
that
and
can
help
get
the
word
out.
Yes,
andrew.
D
Yeah
dana,
I
know
that
this
is
more
of
a
parking
management
or
a
transportation
department,
side
of
it
or
parking
department,
whatever
you
know
what
I'm
talking
about,
not
your
department.
So
thanks
for
the
update,
but
I
want
to
observe
that
it's
not
the
the
switch
at
lexington
avenue
and
he's
like
it
was
not
communicated
at
all
employees.
There
were
like
confused.
They
couldn't
use
this
parking
anymore,
they
didn't
there's!
D
No,
so
it
seems
that,
if
that
we
we
just
made
this
parking
inaccessible
from
like
nine
to
five
to
for
for
people
that
had
previously
parked
there.
I
mean
I'm
looking
right
now
and
somebody
posted
on
asheville
politics
about
parking
enforcement
being
serious
on
lexington
avenue.
This
person
hasn't
had
no
idea
that
they
could
have
possibly
gotten
a
monthly
spot
here
to
like
alleviate
this
pressure.
D
Yeah
come
on
parking
management.
Folks,
if
we're
serious
about
managing
parking,
we
have
to
be
serious
about
communicating
changes
about
parking
out
there
I
mean.
If
that's,
do
we
really
want
people
to
park
legally?
Do
we
want
to
issue
tickets
to
people?
You
know
like
it?
Doesn't
it
really?
I
think
it
leaves
a
bad
taste
in
people's
mouths
when
they
get
tickets,
but
there's
changes
like
this
that
might
really
help
them
that
they
that
they
don't
get
information
from.
D
They
get
interaction
from
an
enforcement
officer,
but
they
don't
get
interaction
from
somebody
who
could
actually
help
them
solve
their
parking
problem.
So
please
communicate
to
the
parking
folks
that
information
is
there
as
a
better
tool
than
the
a
ticketing
officer
before
serious
water
parking
issues
and
they're
going
to
be
making
changes
like
this
that
they're
not
going
to
communicate
to
the
public.
E
Thanks
andrew,
I
think
that's
really
important
feedback
and
I'll
definitely
pass
it
along.
I
know
that
they've
they've
been
in
a
staffing
crisis
situation.
They
do
have
a
fairly
new
employee
who
is
going
to
be
able
to
do
a
little
bit
more
of
the
communications
work
but
yeah.
I
think
that's
really
important
feedback.
So
thank
you.
E
The
proposed
bike
lanes
on
college
and
patton.
We
also
had
planned
to
come
back
this
month,
but
staff
is
still
working
on
some
tweaks
to
that
plan
based
on
feedback
and
so
transportation
staff
will
come
to
you
all
next
month
and
we'll
look
for
a
formal
recommendation
as
well
carter
and
patton's
storm
water
and
accessibility
improvements.
E
We're
going
to
call
this
project
caps,
it's
going
to
be
going
on
for
a
while
about
16
months,
and
it
includes
stormwater
upgrades
in
that
whole
vicinity
as
well
as
sidewalk
and
accessibility
improvements
on
patent
up
to
south
french
broad.
I
was,
we
are
getting
a
press
release
out
literally
any
minute.
Maybe
it's
already
come
out
and
it's
there's
going
to
have
information
about
an
upcoming,
not
yet
upcoming
site
visit,
as
well
as
a
virtual
meeting
opportunity
to
get
more
information
about
this
project.
E
Staff
also
or
city
council
also
had
a
work
session
to
talk
more
about
this
potential
restructure,
I'd,
say.
Overall,
the
process
is
slowing
down
a
bit.
Staff
is
really
seeking
seeking
input
from
this
working
group
and
from
the
general
public
and
from
city
council
like
how
can
we
make
our
boards
and
commissions
more
effective,
inclusive
staff
obviously
had
kind
of
a
pretty
fairly
specific
proposal
that
was
initially
presented,
but
I
think
we're
kind
of
taking
a
step
back
to
say,
like
let's
work
together
to
figure
out
how
to
improve
this.
E
I
H
H
As
a
decision
has
already
been
made,
and
I
think
that
the
consensus
was
that
there
was
not
enough
conversations
with
committee
members
and
board
members
to
form
that,
so
I
think
that
the
the
feedback
was
well
heard.
There
were
a
lot
of
people
on
that
call.
So
I
think
what
I
shared
with
you
is
that
I
think
we
have
to
figure
out
other
ways
to
drive
change,
and
it
was
there's
a
lot
of.
There
were
a
lot
of
complaints
in
in
a
two-hour
session.
E
E
And
stage
turned
off
for
camera
if
anything
to
add
on
the
board
and
commission
restructure
process.
I
Office
and
that's
where
I
went
off
camera,
so
I
didn't
hear
your
discussion,
but
I
think
I
mean
at
the
council
meeting.
You
know
we
heard
a
big
update.
We
heard
feedback
from
council
women
saying
they
wanted
more
detail.
They
wanted
more
examples.
They
wanted
more
information
on
how
where
concerns
in
the
community
might
fall
under
the
various
different
commissions
and
committees.
C
I
I'm
encouraging
folks
like
out
there
that
have
different
ideas.
I
I
had
kind
of
expressed
as
a
council
that
I
thought
when
we
put
out
an
idea
that
there
would
be
ideas
returned
back,
not
just
it's
this
or
not
at
all.
So
if
this
commission,
like
I
spoke
up
for
the
downtown
commission
in
the
council
meeting,
actually
because
I
said
you
know,
we
don't
have
a
dedicated
planning
body,
we
have
dana
dedicated
to
downtown.
We've
lost
dana
got
her
back.
She
doesn't
have
a
budget,
we
don't
there's
not.
I
If
the
downtown
commission
is
gone,
I'm
not
sure
who's
watching
downtown
and
it's
like
the
hub
of
western
north
carolina
economic
activity.
So
I
expressed
some
concern
about
that
and
I
think
in
general
we
are
looking
for
feedback
like
maybe
it
isn't
six
council
committees,
maybe
it's
eight,
maybe
there's
a
different
way
that
it's
split,
you
know
just
general
feedback
and
if
y'all,
you
know
want
to
have
a
conversation
with
me
about
it
directly
feel
free
to
reach
out.
I
Well,
I
mean
the
council
meeting
was
just
a
presentation
and
we
shared
our
own
personal
thoughts
about
it.
So
it
wasn't,
like
the
all
of
council,
said
we
vote
on
this
and
agree
that
we
need
more
information.
It
was
just
dialogue
because
there
will
be
more
information
coming
and
one
of
the
things
I
shared
was
that
I
was
expecting
some
feedback
from
the
community
of
alternative
ways
or
different
assortment
of
committees
or
whatever.
That
might
be.
H
So
so,
just
just
to
make
sure,
because
I
know
there
was
a
you
were
not,
I
don't
think
you
were
there.
There
was
another
councilwoman
there
that
the
there
was
no
request
for
additional
detail.
I
I
didn't
hear
there
might
have
been
one
or
out
of
60
people.
That
said,
they
want
additional
detail.
The
request
was
for
collaboration
on
the
restructuring
process
and
not
having
everything
come
top
down,
but
have
a
conversation
also
with
you
know,
with
the
rest
of
the
community.
I
No,
no,
and
I
think
there
were
councilman
that
spoke
to
that-
that
that
was
the
sentiment
at
the
last
meeting
of
chairs
and
vice
chairs.
It
may
be
worth
going
back
to
watch
that
part
of
the
council
meeting
and
I
apologize
that
I've
missed
your
entire
five
minute
conversation
about
it.
Just
now,.
E
E
All
right
development
project
updates.
We
heard
some
updates
from
robin
just
flagging
that
72
broadway
is
going
back
to
the
design
review
committee
at
their
meeting
next
week
for
informal
review,
so
that
one,
I
think,
is
moving
just
a
little
bit
slower
than
maybe
we
would
have
expected.
I'm
not
sure
if
we'll
have
projects
next
month
or
not,
but
we
will
see,
but
that's
the
only
downtown
specific
project
going
to
design
review
next
week.
E
Hotel
development
update.
So
I
forwarded
this
to
you
all,
but
I
figured
I'd,
throw
it
in
here
as
well.
Todd
okla,
chaney
planning
director
provided
a
memo
to
to
the
city
manager
and
to
council
last
month
and
update
with
some
good
information
on
the
hotel
development
that
we've
seen
since
the
lifting
of
the
hotel
moratorium
and
the
new
hotel
development
process.
So
it's
just
informational
but
wanted
to
provide
that
to
you
all
council
meetings.
We've
talked
about
some
of
this.
E
A
budget
work
session
was
held
in
april
12th.
The
next
step
is
that
the
city
manager
will
present
a
draft
budget
to
city
council
on
may.
24Th
public
hearing
will
take
place
on
june
14th
and
budget
adoption
is
scheduled
for
june
28th
city
council
held
a
meeting
this
past
tuesday
and
wanted
to
flag
a
couple
things,
and
I
did
provide
links
to
recordings
as
well.
E
There
was
a
great
update
on
the
point
in
time
count
and
on
homeless
initiatives
generally
from
emily
ball,
and
I
I
feel
like
some
of
these
updates
provided
to
city
council,
are
really
just
such
a
good
way
for
everyone
to
get
information.
So
I'd
encourage
you
guys
to
to
take
a
little
time
to
tune
into
that.
If
you
can,
we
also
got
introduced
to
new
staff
at
homeward
bound
and
some
updates
from
apd.
E
And
arpa
funding
yay
council
voted
to
fund.
Now
I
don't
know
the
total
number
of
projects
off
hand,
but
that
information
is
available
just
wanted
to
highlight
the
city
projects
that
were
funded
through
this
process,
including
upgrade
to
downtown
restrooms
so
yeah
tbd
on
what
that
looks
like
exactly
checking
in
with
staff
leading
that
process
today,
I
assume
we're
to
come
back,
probably
with
more
information
on
the
different
options
and
how
they
compare,
and
maybe
some
of
the
pros
and
cons
and
making
some
upgrades
related
to
technology
and
communications.
E
So
that's
exciting.
I
think
the
ability
to
have
hybrid
meetings
and
and
improve
ways
and
tools
for
engagement
with
the
community
also
a
new
litter
and
cleanliness
program,
which
I
think
is
really
exciting.
So
again,
this
is
early
and
we'll
see.
You
know
we'll
we'll
learn
more
details
in
the
months
ahead,
but
but
that's
super
exciting,
so
I'll
keep
you
guys
posted
on
how
that
comes
together.
E
E
E
We
expect
that
to
happen
in
july,
and
then
we
expect
about
two
to
three
months
later
for
our
other
boards
and
commissions
to
start
meeting
in
person
so
not
happening
immediately
and
and
we'll
obviously
keep
you
guys
posted-
and
I
also
just
added
some
links
at
the
bottom
of
the
report
to
different
resources
and
ways
to
stay
engaged.
B
Cool
so
our
june,
our
next
monthly
meeting,
we
will
talk
about
our
south
slope,
southside
vision
plan
updates.
B
We
will
have
a
formal
vote
for
recommendation
to
council
at
that
time,
assuming
that
they
can
finish
the
tweaks,
we
will
also
have
a
vote
and
a
recommendation
for
the
college
patent
bicycling
updated
plan,
and
we
are
also
planning
a
public
safety
update
from
lieutenant
mike
plant,
mike
lam
with
the
city
of
asheville
apd,
and
I
think
that's
pretty
much.
It
are
there
any
other
items
for
informal
discussion
or
items
that
you
want
to
see
on
the
agenda
next
month.
B
Well,
we
barely
had
a
quorum,
but
we
made
it
and
thank
you
for
a
a
pretty
good
may
meeting
and
I
think
we
are
ready
to
adjourn
yes.
Is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
so
moved?
Is
there
a
second.