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From YouTube: Public Art and Cultural Commission – July 20, 2023
Description
Regular meeting of the City of Asheville Public Art and Cultural Commission.
Access the agenda and other meeting materials at the City of Asheville website: https://www.ashevillenc.gov/department/city-clerk/boards-and-commissions/public-art-and-cultural-commission/
Participate before and during the meeting on our public engagement hub: https://publicinput.com/W6662
A
B
Hello
everybody
good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
the
July
meeting
of
the
public
art
and
cultural
commission
I'm
Vice,
chair,
Allie,
McGee,
the
public
art
and
cultural
commission
originally
called
the
public
art
board
was
established
by
Asheville
City
Council
in
2000..
This
nine
member
commission
serves
as
an
Advisory
Board
to
the
city
on
matters
concerning
art
in
public
spaces.
The
commission
is
responsible
for
promoting
public
art
in
the
city,
overseeing
the
city's
public
art
projects
and
ensuring
the
art
displays
in
public
buildings
and
public
spaces
in
the
city
of
Asheville
are
properly
maintained.
B
Apologies
for
the
noise
here
all
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually
and
we
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
Hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
Hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website
and
on
the
city's
YouTube
page
to
participate
by
phone
dial,
855-925-2801
meeting
code
9182.
You
can
also
send
public
comments
to
public
art
and
cultural
commission
at
publicinput.com.
B
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
the
committee
members
who
are
participating
virtually
committee
members
as
I
call
your
name.
Please
say
a
quick
hello,
Shirley
Whitesides,
hello,
Pete,
Perez,
hello,
Pat,
kappas
and
then
Joanna
Hagerty
is
not
here
today
and
we
also
have
Andrew
Fletcher
immediate,
pass.
Vice
chair.
B
Katie
Cordell,
immediate
pasture,
hello
and
now
I
will
move
into
the
administrative
items.
The
first
is
the
approval
of
the
May
meeting
minutes.
Everyone
has
had
a
chance
to
look
at
those
I
would
love
to
get
a
motion
to
have
those
minutes
approved.
B
And
second
I'll,
second
great
minutes
are
approved
for
May,
and
now
I
will
turn
it
over.
It
looks
like
to
Steph
doll
to
share
a
little
bit
about
vacancies
and
appointments
to
the
committee.
A
Okay,
okay
I
am
letting
you
all
know
that
by
the
time
October
runs
around,
you
will
have
four
vacancies.
You
have
two
vacancies
right
now
and
you
can
do
a
lot
of
Outreach
to
your
community
and
let
them
know
that
these
spaces
will
be
available.
However,
the
sidebar
on
this
says
later
in
your
agenda.
A
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
about
the
vacancies
and
right
now,
let
me
just
say
that
it.
Our
two
current
vacancies
are
from
Reggie
Tidwell
and
Marcia.
Almo
Devar
and
the
upcoming
vacancies
are
from
your
former
chair
and
vice
chair,
Katie
Cornell
and
Andrew
Fletcher.
B
A
We
can
we
thought
we
would
allow
you
all
to
to
take
a
look
again
at
the
applications
that
came
in
from
the
last
vacancies.
That's
a
great
idea:
Ali.
B
Okay,
moving
on
from
that
to
our
next
item,
which
is
into
Old
business,
which
is
related
to
this,
which
is
rethinking
the
public,
art
and
cultural
commission
discussion,
we
can
have
with
staff
and
with
ourselves
about
whether
we
want
to
explore
an
ordinance
that
includes
permanent
seats,
as
Steph
was
saying
for
some
partner
institutions
what
those
institutions
might
even
be,
and
if
we
want
to
do
that,
whether
we
want
to
change
that
ordinance
before
the
new
Council
appointments
in
October,
as
well
as
looking
at
an
ordinance
change,
potentially
to
include
an
expanded
purview
of
advice
on
outdoor
special
events.
B
A
And
this
is
Steph.
Maybe
Katie
wants
to
provide
an
overview
of
how
that
came
about
and
then
talk
about
the
three
seats
we're
now
considering,
which
would
be
explore.
Asheville
or
bctda
UNCA
and
arts
AVL.
E
Yeah
it
came
about
are
these
partner?
Institutions
are
heavily
involved
in
most
of
these
public
art
projects,
and
we
felt
it
would
be
make
it
easier
for
the
public
art
program
if
they
were
at
the
table
at
the
commission.
As
part
of
these
discussions,
is
that
what
you're
looking
for
Steph
or
did
you
want
more.
A
I
think
that
that
makes
sense
and
I'll
just
add
that
there
are
several
boards
and
commissions
that
the
city
has
where
we
have
specific
seats.
For
example,
on
the
downtown
commission,
there
is
a
seat
for
the
Downtown
Association
it,
and
we
also
sometimes
have
boards
and
commissions
do
seats
that
have
outside
appointments.
A
So
on
the
riverfront
commission,
we
have
appointments
from
sibo
the
Chamber
of
Commerce,
the
town
of
Woodfin
and
they're,
actually
amending
their
ordinance
right
now
to
include
the
I
think
the
town
of
Black
Mountain.
So
the
idea
here
is
to
match
the
strategy
with
the
goal
and
as
Katie
Cornell
was
getting
out
there.
A
B
C
That
was
I
know
after
we
chatted
our
pre-meeting
about
this
and
I
guess
that
was
my
question.
Is
that
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
organizational
buy-in
from
our
partners
before
we
go
ahead
and
give
them
a
seat
and
that
you
know
they're
going
to
have
some
commitment
to
it?
C
The
one
question
I'd
have
is
with
UNCA
I
mean
and
I'm
a
senior
there
love
UNCA,
but
perhaps
do
we
want
to
be
a
little
broader
in
our
saying
in
arts,
educational
institution
and
that
that,
may
you
know
obviously
UNCA
would
be
one
of
a
handful
that
would
be
that,
would
that
would
qualify
as
that,
but
that
would
be
my
one
question:
I'd
throw
to
the
group
it
so.
B
F
Yeah
I
was
thinking
the
same
exact
thing
about
UNCA
just
wanted
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
why
we
would
consider
that
institution
over
other.
You
know,
entities
in
town
and
also
is
there,
would
they
be
voting
members
and
is
there
a
drawback
to
having
like
a
higher
number
of
people
that
are,
you
know,
committed
seats
versus
kind
of
at
large
positions.
B
So
there
is
that
this
steam
studio
is
kind
of
one
of
the
main
draws
there.
Pete.
D
D
I
mean
it
seems
to
me
that
our
success
or
failure
is
very
much
tied
into
at
least
those
first,
two
institutions,
TDA
and
arts,
AVL
and
being
able
to
formalize
that
takes
an
approach
to
work
rather
than
taking
people
from
the
community
in
general,
which
may
or
may
not
have
leverage
in
these
situations
and
concentrating
on
the
partners
that
we
need
to
really
continue
to
grow
and
do
a
good
job,
I
think
makes
a
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
A
I'll
provide
some
background
on
the
UNCA
conversation
over
the
past
year,
or
so.
My
understanding
is
that
you
know
UNCA.
While
they
don't
have
a
large
student
body,
they
do
have
a
bench
of
potential
interns
and
students
that
could
work
on
projects
that
would
support
the
work
that
the
public,
art
and
cultural
commission
is
doing
reviewing
best
practices.
A
Looking
at
precedent,
images
and
projects,
they're
also
as
an
institution
very
interested
in
doing
student
engagement,
and
so
as
we
move
forward
with
different
Community
processes,
they
would
also
they
could
also
provide
an
extension
of
the
public
art
and
cultural
Commissions
in
the
the
city
or
other
partners
ability
to
be
on
the
street
on
the
ground.
So
that
was
one
of
the
the
thoughts
about
there.
A
The
third
piece
of
it
I
think,
is
that
again,
while
they,
you
know
they're,
not
a
very
large
institution,
they
do
provide
a
pipeline
of
people
who
eventually
become
artists
in
our
community
and
or
Arts
administrators.
So
that
could
be
a
way
to
heighten
the
presence
of
public
art
in
people's
minds
as
they
enter
their
Workforce.
B
I
wonder
about
broadening
it
and
we
could
brought
it
all
the
way
out
to
say
people
who
are
working
in
Buncombe,
County,
Schools
or
Asheville
City
Schools,
potentially
as
our
Educators,
and
then
also
thinking
about
Warren
Wilson
two,
although
it's
technically
not
I,
don't
even
know
if
Warren
wasn't
is
in
the
city
limits
technically
I,
don't
know
how
that
would
work
yeah.
So
it's.
D
I
think
the
part
about
getting
some
arms
and
legs
and
help
makes
a
lot
of
sense
because
we've
been
really
restricted
by
staff
and
how
much
time
each
of
the
board
members
has
to
be
able
to
do
it.
And
if
we're
going
to
execute
being
able
to
have
some
people
in
the
pipeline
and
something
I
hadn't
thought
about,
but
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
F
Wonder
could
we
we
could
also
encourage
those
people
to
join
whether
it's
a
an
official
seat
from
this
organization,
right
that
wouldn't,
if
it
wasn't
an
official
like
we're,
always
going
to
have
a
UNCA
person
posted
to
the
commission
like
they
would
still
be
allowed
to
be
part
of
the
commission
right.
E
Yeah
I
think
the
formal
partnership
would
encourage
someone
to
always
be
a
representative,
though
I
mean
right
now
we
don't
have
anybody
from
UNCA
and
having
a
more
formalized
partnership,
I
think
would
help
I
agree.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
just
UNCA.
You
know
a
B
Tech,
there's
other
institutions,
but
there
is
a
lot
of
precedent
for
working
with
UNCA.
C
And
you
know
it
may
be
that
every
appointment
cycle
you
know
they've
got
the
best
candidate
because
of
all
the
reasons
that
go
along
with
the
you
know
the
advantage
of
UNCA
as
as
an
applicant.
So
it
may
be
that
you
know
the
de
facto
it
would.
It
would
work
out
to
be
them
every
time,
but
I
am
thinking
about.
You
know
Council,
actually
making
the
appointments
and
being
able
to
offer
some
leeway
there.
C
For
you
know
strong
candidates
from
other
other
Arts
institutions,
as
other
Arts
institutions
grow,
hopefully,
and
invest
and
making
it
a
desirable
thing
that
that
they
they
could
go
for
so,
while
I'm
really
comfortable
with
being
UNCA
I'm,
just
I'm
just
I.
Think
it's
a
worthy
question:
do
we
do
we
say,
do
we
specify
the
institution
or
do
we
say
Arts
Institute,
you
know
Arts
education
institution
and
draw
a
box
around
that
and
I
I'm
I'll
be
comfortable
really
with
either
result,
but
I
think
it's
a
worthy
question.
B
G
A
B
The
the
one
I,
don't
remember,
gonna,
say
drawback,
but
if
it
were
specifically
for
UNC
Asheville
and
they
had
agreed
to
it,
then
they
would
be.
There
would
be
kind
of
something
on
their
end
to
uphold
in
terms
of
filling
it.
Whereas
we,
if
we
left
it
open
to
an
Arts
educator,
Institute
right,
then
that's
going
to
put
more
on
us
potentially
to
go,
find
and
fill
that
seat.
E
A
No,
there
is
sometimes
the
ordinance
is
written
so
that
it
encourages
other
organizations
to
participate
in
the
development
of
resources.
That
can
mean
even
some
funding,
but
generally
there's,
there's
no
no
agreement
and
they,
the
appointments,
are
made
at
the
the
Leisure
or
the
pleasure.
If
you
want
to
put
it
of
the
appointing
Boards
of
those
organizations
or
they
delegate
it
and
the
city
normally
does
not
get
very
involved
with
that.
C
What's
our
decision
timeline
on
this?
Obviously
it
has
to
go
into
the
ordinance.
Is
this
something
that
you
know
I
not
having
yet
heard
from
UNCA
a
little
uncomfortable
about
you
know
moving
forward
without
some
Ascent
from
them,
so
I
I?
What's
our
time,
do
we
have
to
make
this
determination
now
or
before
the
or
before
we,
you
know
contemplate
a
new
ordinance
or
do
we
have
a
have
a
little
bit
to
try
to
figure
this
out.
A
A
You
need
to
go
to
the
boards
and
commissions
Committee
of
City
Council
and
inform
them
answer
any
of
the
questions
that
might
they
might
have,
and
then
they
would
make
a
recommendation
to
send
that
to
city
council
so
you're
talking
about
either.
You
know
that's
a
two-month
period
right
there.
You
would
need
to
have
a
new
ordinance
written
up
and
ready
to
go
pretty
early
in
the
first
couple
weeks
of
August
to
be
able
to
still
meet
council's
appointment
deadlines
in
October
the
other
way
again.
A
You
know
you
could
just
have
some
appointments
done
in
October.
Let
that
ride
and
work
to
change
the
ordinance
on
a
time
frame
that
works
for
you
all.
B
Ally
here
I,
I
and
think
it
does
seem
like
we
are,
and
maybe
we
should
take
a
vote
on
this
or
have
a
throw
of
hands
or
something
around
at
least
two
of
the
seats
being
held
for
rtvl
for
explore,
Asheville
and
then
potentially
I
saw
in
the
in
the
agenda
right.
We
could
potentially
set
a
subcommittee
meeting
to
edit
the
ordinance
it
sounds
like
if
people
are
on
board
we'll
be
editing
the
ordinance
anyway
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
B
G
They
will
have
some
idea
of
what's
going
on
and
it
will
give
it's
a
way
to
integrate
the
education
in
with
the
public
art,
so
people
be
more
informed
and
even
the
parents
would
want
to
come
more
to
to
the
public
art.
C
I'd
like
to
think
that
we
can
have
that
advantage
through
our
normal
Outreach
and
through
the
yet
large
seats,
I'm
I'm
wondering
a
little
bit
about
how
we
could
make
how
you
know
these
seats
are
like
institutional
Partnerships
really
and
without
a
corresponding
institution.
It's
hard
to
guarantee
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
fill
that
slot,
and
so
I
I
well
I'm
I'm
totally
on
board.
With
with
you
know,
your
desired.
C
D
Yeah
I
think
the
other
consideration
I'd
have
just
listening.
This
conversation
is
I
think
if
we
do
this
right,
we're
looking
at
more
we're
looking
than
more
than
just
a
seat
on
this
committee,
we're
looking
for
kind
of
a
strategic
commitment
to
be
able
to
get
involved
with
our
success.
I
know
we
have
that
at
rcbl
put
a
lot
of
money
on
the
fact
that
TDA
is
going
to
be
on
board
and
involved
in
that.
D
B
B
D
D
Yeah
yeah,
what
what
I
was
talking
about.
Stephanie
is
if
we
could
just
outright
approve
Arts
AVL
and
the
TDA,
because
those
are
permanent
organizations
in
the
city
without
comp,
without
competition
and
have
the
have
UNCA
if
they
say
that
they
want
to
be
a
part
of
this
and
be
a
strategic
partner
that
we
have
them
as
our
educational
designee,
but
that
we
that's
subject
to
review
depending
on
what's
happening
in
a
community.
D
A
So
a
staff
I
would
recommend
that
you
state
really
clearly
in
your
ordinance
what
you
want
right.
So
if
it's
an,
if
you
want
to
have
an
educational
appointee,
then
you
make
it
the
educational
appointee
and
you
don't
designate
it
as
UNCA
you
can.
You
can
get
someone
from
UNCA
to
fill
that
seat,
the
first
three-year
term
that
that's
so
we
wouldn't.
We
wouldn't
supersede
anything
that
Council
already
has
as
a
as
a
boarding
commission
rules
and
pretty
much
once
somebody's
in
that
seat.
A
They
get
to
serve
a
three-year
term,
so
we
wouldn't
really
review
it
annually
right,
but
there's
there's
I!
Guess
what
I'm
trying
to
tell
you
long
long
story
short,
there's
ways
to
put
things
in
your
bylaws
that
require
you
to
review
things
like
say
every
three
years
of
who
that
educational
partner
is,
but
we
couldn't
remove
someone
at
one
year
in.
D
Three
years
to
me
would
be
plenty:
I
mean
I,
wouldn't
look
for
anything
short
term,
I
mean
if
we
thought
we
could
depend
on
them
and
so
far
we've
we've
been
very
much
able
to
depend
on
them
for
a
lot
of
different
reasons.
I
think
looking
at
evaluation
after
a
full
full
first
term
would
give
us
plenty
of
room,
would
at
least
be
my
opinion.
A
I'm
getting
to
Ali's
point
about
putting
a
subcommittee
together,
I
think
staff
would
could
recommend
that
you
get
that
subcommittee
together
and
write
the
ordinance
with
a
clause
off
to
the
side
that
that
says
that
that
seat
is
for
an
educational
partner,
write
it
up,
as
is
with
UNCA.
A
A
You
don't
want
to
go
to
the
boards
and
commissions
Comm
committee
without
knowing
exactly
who
you're
asking
for
that's
the
the
big
piece,
but
you
do
have
a
little
bit
of
time
before
that
would
happen.
A
So
maybe
we
could
kind
of
get
into
the
Nitty
Gritty
details
at
a
subcommittee
meeting
about
it.
I
think
I'm,
understanding
where
you're
wanting
to
go
and
that
you're
being
cautious
and
safeguarding
the
Integrity
of
the
public,
art
and
cultural
Commission,
and
we
just
need
to
have
that
conversation
with
unci
to
clarify
some
things.
Yeah.
D
A
It
might
also
help
you
know,
because
we
had
some
other
ideas
here.
You
know
Andrew
talked
about
operationalizing
Shirley's
idea.
We
might
be
able
to
put
that
into
play
with
this
as
well
right,
so
that
you,
you
can
maybe
have
that
seat
be
for
an
educational
partner
go
out
after
UNCA
first,
but
everybody
knows
that
you
know.
You
also
want
to
try
to
do
Outreach
for
K-12
partner
eventually
or
just
have
someone
on
the
commission
that
speaks
to
that
and
and
can
start
building
that
relationship
and
maybe
longer
term
they'll,
be
a
real.
B
Yeah
I
think
I'm
comfortable
with
the
way
that
sounds
and
I.
Think
I
am
interested,
obviously
still
to
hear
what
UNCA
says,
and
then
that
sounds
like
it
could
be
a
good
way
to
go.
I
do
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
having
an
Arts
education
seat
of
some
kind
is
something
that
people
would
like
so
and
the
other
two
seem
that
they
seem
totally
good
to
go
and
there's
maybe
more
thought
around
this
one,
particularly
so
we
could
I
think
I.
C
C
We
knew
that
that
relationship
with
UNCA
was
firm,
and
so
you
know,
I
I
I
suggest
that
we
kick
this
to
subcommittee
new
ordinance
with
these,
with
informed
by
this
discussion
and
with,
hopefully,
some
clarity
from
UNCA,
and
we
kick
it
to
a
subcommittee
to
firm
this
up
and
bring
it
back
to
the
full
commission
for
a
vote.
D
C
And
I'm
happy
to
be
on
that
subcommittee.
It's
part
of
my
outgoing
torch
passing,
so
you
know
I'm
happy
to
I'm
happy
to
volunteer
for
for
that
service
and
I
I
realize
with
timing.
We
do
want
to
get
this
done
in
time
for
the
fall
appointment
cycle
it
may
require
special
meeting
called
so
I'd
just
like
to
note
that
it
sort
of
so
I,
but
you
know
I'm,
you
know
I'm
I'm
down.
B
C
Ahead
I'd
suggest,
if
we
had
some
other
volunteers
for
ordinance
that
so
that
we
could
name
a
subcommittee
in
a
motion,
then
we
could
make
a
motion
referring
this
matter
to
a
subcommittee.
D
D
A
If
that
many
people
are
interested,
what
staff
will
do
is
send
out
a
doodle
poll
and
to
see
who
can
attend
we'll
need
at
least
three
people
for
a
subcommittee?
And
then,
if
it's
a
special
meeting,
it
will
be
anything
over.
That
will
be
a
Purim
and
we'll
call
out
a
special
meeting
and
advertise
it.
A
So
we'll
look
to
see
in
that
that
first
week
of
August
no
later
than
the
first
week
of
August
is
what
I'd
say
for
us
to
get
going
with
that
and
in
appreciation
of
of
everything
that
the
chair
and
vice
chair
previously
had
done
for
the
the
ordinance.
So
we
do
have
copy
to
start
with
and
Katie's
the
expert
on
that
piece.
A
C
A
Yes,
the
the
last
thing
I
will
say
on
the
on
this
is
that
I
did
send
a
note
out
to
the
Department
of
community
and
recreational
entertainment,
Recreation
and
entertainment
facilities
to
let
John,
Philman
and
Chris.
Coral
know
that
this
commission
was
interested
and
potentially
expanding
the
purview
to
include
special
events.
So
they
are
talking
about
that
and
when
we
meet,
we
can
explore
that
and
maybe
have
one
of
their
staff
people
there.
B
B
A
A
Well,
before
we
get
into
the
purpose
of
the
plan,
I
am
going
to
read
to
you
from
the
upcoming
pack
Square
Plaza
Vision
plan,
the
actual
Vision
that
is
on
you,
know
the
third
page
of
the
plan
and
then
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about.
What's
in
it,
we're
hoping
that
we
can
release
that
plan
tomorrow.
We
are,
of
course,
doing
some
last
minute
edits
to
the
plan
if
it's
not
out
tomorrow,
it'll
be
out
on
Monday.
A
So
for
the
past
two
centuries,
every
generation
in
Asheville's
history
has
had
a
role
in
shaping
or
reshaping
pack
Square.
This
generation
is
no
different.
The
civil
and
social
unrest
following
the
unjust
murders
of
several
black
Americans
in
2020,
including
George
Floyd,
brought
the
future
of
the
Vance
monument
in
pack,
Square
Plaza
to
an
inflection
point.
A
The
vision
for
pack
Square
Plaza
is
to
ensure
its
position
as
an
incredibly
inclusive
and
welcoming
destination
for
locals
and
visitors
alike
by
reshaping
the
space.
So
it
is
more
usable
and
accessible
offers.
New
experiences
and
amenities
for
all
people,
reimagines.
How
we
share
histories
and
address
past
harms
and
establishes
a
strong
physical
and
cultural
connection
to
the
block.
A
Other
recommendations
acknowledge
the
need
for
the
community
to
explore
additional
projects
and
Partnerships
that
can
improve
how
pack
Square
Plaza
is
managed,
operated
and
maintained
as
well.
How
as
well
as
how
the
space
is
programmed
to
be
inclusive
for
all
ethnicities,
cultures,
generations
and
Families.
A
A
A
So
you
can
see
just
on
this
slide
right
here,
a
little
bit
of
what
the
plan
itself
is
going
to
look
like,
so
each
of
the
chapters
is
going
to
start
with
a
title.
For
example,
this
is
like
the
what
we
heard
section
talks
about
our
engagement
and
and
all
of
that,
and
it
includes
a
little
bit
of
our
logo
as
a
very
colorful
plan
and
a
lot
of
photographs
and
precedent
images
that
are
maybe
familiar
to
you
from
other
presentations.
A
There
were
29
different
things
that
the
community
advisory
committee
looked
at
in
their
meeting,
and
some
of
the
feedback
we
received
was
that
29
was
a
lot,
and
so
they
got
put
into
these
different
buckets
Equitable
and
welcoming
places
and
spaces
being
people-centered
re-envisioning.
The
space
for
the
band's,
Monument
healing
and
addressing
past
harm,
having
a
safe
environment
being
authentic
and
elevating
our
local
Pride,
elevating
supporting
and
connecting
each
other
telling
our
stories
and
our
histories
being
pedestrian,
friendly
and
really
thinking
about
maintenance
and
operations.
A
It's
another
sample
of
the
kind
of
vibrancies
and
the
colors
that
are
associated
with
the
plan
and
the
style
and
the
layout
wanted
to
share
this
picture
right
here
to
make
a
point
and
say
that
in
essence,
the
pack
Square
Vision
plan
is
positing
that
right
now
we
have
very
little
space
to
actually
interact
with
each
other
in
this
Plaza
and
we're
taking
on
the
left
a
view
of
this
small
median
that
serves
as
kind
of
the
core
that's
bifurcated
or
disconnected
on
either
side
by
these
streets
and,
ultimately,
over
the
course
of
say,
20
years.
A
and
in
the
meantime,
actually
help
us
hit
some
of
those
goals
associated
with
being
more
inclusive
and
welcoming.
So
you
can
see
here
on
the
left.
This
is
an
older
version
of
the
bubble
diagram
that
was
produced
after
the
design
charette,
but
you
can
see
here
that
a
narrative
put
into
action
which
is
really
talking
about
a
space
for
reflection
that
meditation
Groove
that's
over
on
the
Eastern
edge
of
the
plaza
there's
where
it
says
tent
and
vendor
space.
A
Those
are
really
going
to
be
more
like
kiosks
and
more
permanent
small
business
spaces
that
can
help
us
diversify
what
we
can
offer
people
and,
while
we're
not
calling
that
area
the
Free
Speech
Zone
anymore,
we're
talking
about
really
highlighting
how
Civic
engagement
was
was
underscored
by
our
community
throughout
the
the
process,
the
focus
groups
and
the
different
the
walks
that
we
took
that
people
did
not
want
to
see
that
be
dismissed.
A
We
do
have
information
on
the
removal
of
the
advanced
Monument
as
far
as
what
the
community
wants
to
see,
and
that
is
that
when
we
are
told
we
can
remove
it
to
go
ahead
and
get
it
out
of
there.
But
we
also
heard
very
clearly
that
it
does
not
need
to
be
replaced
with
another
Memorial
or
a
marker
and
in
fact
the
areas
should
be
preserved
as
a
space
that
is
not
divisive.
A
We
should
focus
our
efforts
of
telling
our
stories
and
exploring
history
in
other
ways
which
I'll
talk
about
at
the
end
of
this,
because
we
do
have
money
through
the
melon
Grant
to
do
those
types
of
things.
A
We
heard
a
lot
about
activating
that
Northern
Edge.
There
were
two
options
for
this
on
the
top
right:
you'll
see
a
photograph
with
precedent,
images
that
show
you
know
if
the
Biltmore
company
decided
to
actually
change
the
facade
of
their
building,
how
they
could
create
storefronts
on
that
ground
floor
and
then
underneath
it,
you
see
an
option
where
we
could
just
back
up
that
lawn
and
build
some
kiosks,
and
we
have
talked
to
Folks
at
the
Biltmore
company
and
they're.
A
Very
interested
in
the
option
on
the
bottom
right
and
activating
that
space
so
we'll
be
having
those
conversations
with
them
very
soon.
This
is
the
idea
around
healing
and
reflection.
While
it
says
you
know,
reposition
the
elevated
lawn
to
create
a
meditation
Grove
in
the
plan.
It
also
discusses
as
a
possible
Center
or
place
for
an
opportunity
to
name
this
area
in
honor
of
black
individuals,
black
history,
and
really
put
a
stake
in
the
ground
somewhere
in
this
Plaza.
A
A
This
was
a
comment
that
we
received
very
early
on
as
a
result
of
the
Vance
Monument
task
force
report,
and
everyone
has
echoed
it.
So
it
is
something
that
is
also
amenable
to
the
Biltmore
company
and
we
will
try
some
tactical
options.
Some
temporary
options
for
this,
as
we
move
forward
with
the
design
process
to
make
that
permanent
in
the
future.
We
already
know
what
that
looks
like
when
we
have
festivals
and
special
events
very,
very
long
term.
From
now
the
idea
would
be
to
convert
traffic
behind
the
Biltmore
building
to
two-way
traffic.
A
So,
as
you
know,
on
the
east
side
of
College
Street,
that
is
two-way
traffic
and
then
everything
just
west
of
Market
Street
turns
into
one-way
traffic
moving
West.
If
we
were
to
able
to
two-way
traffic
on
College
Street
in
this
area,
we
would
be
able
to
reroute
transit
buses
and
Public
Safety
Vehicles,
so
that
South
pack
square
is
no
longer
required
to
be
open
on
a
regular
basis.
A
If
we
were
able
to
reprogram
some
of
the
spaces
in
the
area
into
public
spaces,
we
would
be
able
to
further
some
of
the
goals
of
creating
new
places
for
festivals
and
special
events
in
the
block
more
diagrams.
This
is
showing,
on
the
right
hand,
side
how
we
could
extend
the
sidewalks
and
remove
some
of
the
parking
along
South
Market
Street,
so
that
looking
down
at
the
ymi,
it
was
more
visible
and
we'd
also
have
spaces
for
pop-up
festivals,
special
events
storytelling
that
type
of
cultural
activity
that
could
happen
on
that.
A
You
have
a
potential
for
a
mural
that
could
be
very
easily
done
with
fabric
on
the
parking
deck
that
is
on
the
west
side
of
South
Market
Streets,
and
some
ideas
to
further
create
more
of
a
Gateway
that
speaks
to
the
past
present
and
future
of
this
Multicultural
District.
A
Another
piece
of
this
is
a
recommendation
for
the
city
to
participate
in
the
process
to
create
a
municipal,
Service,
District
or
business
improvement
district,
and
the
idea
behind
this
is
spurred
on
by
our
request
to
ask
them
to
think
about
public
private
Partnerships
in
the
area.
Most
people
who
participated
in
the
process
understood
that
in
order
to
program
and
operates
a
public
space
of
the
level
that
our
community
is
looking
for,
the
city
cannot
do
it
alone,
Partnerships
with
other
local
governments
and
with
not-for-profits
and
private
entities
would
be
required.
A
A
A
That
is
something
that
we
could
start
on
right
away
as
a
team,
and
it
is
going
to
be
critical
that
we
do
that
as
we
move
towards
an
actual
design
process.
So
this
is
just
a
concept
and
a
vision,
and
it's
a
pretty
darn
good
one.
But
what
we
need
to
do
next
is
actually
build
Out,
Construction
drawings,
and
that
means
we
would
need
to
be
way
more
refined
and
we
have
the
money
to
do
it
right.
A
A
Just
getting
movable
chairs
and
places
for
people
to
have
you
know
maybe
some
tables
and
being
able
to
shut
down
northpac
Square,
not
just
for
a
festival
but
for
people
to
be
able
to
enjoy.
That
would
be
something
we
haven't
done
before.
A
C
I
I
really
loved
the
efforts
toward
connecting
with
the
block,
but
I
will
say
I
that
block.
That
is
one
way
right.
There,
I
I
I
fully
believe
that
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
accomplish
all
our
goals
until
we
get
that
to
be
two-way
traffic,
because
it's
such
all
of
Market
Street
is
two-way,
except
for
that
one
block
that
connects
pack
Square
to
the
southern
area
there
and
so
I
I
will
I
I
will
I
hope
that
that's
being
considered
I
know
it's
as
long.
C
That's
part
of
the
long-term
vision
of
it,
but
I
I
truly
hope
that
that
is
that
restoring
that
to
two-way
traffic
is
at
least
at
least
in
the
hopper.
For,
for
you
know,
future
design
and
consideration.
A
For
sure
it
will
come
up
in
the
design
process
and
I
think
that,
as
we
move
forward
with
the
community
engagement
with
different
members
of
the
block
collaborative
members
from
the
East
End
Valley
Street
neighborhood
we're
going
to
get
the
ideas
and
the
input
necessary
for
us
to
to
figure
out
how
to
move
forward.
A
Anything
in
there
that
particularly
interested
other
people,
things
that
you
saw
that
you
would
really
love
to
have
happen.
D
I
think
for
me,
the
black
number
one,
and
what
we're
doing
there
is
just
such
a
big
thing.
We
talked
about
that
before
because
it's
it's
one
thing
to
kind
of
talk
about
Equity,
it's
another
thing
to
literally
build
it
into
our
human
traffic
flows
and
connect
all
that
and
what
we're
doing
and
the
other
piece
I
really
like
about
it
is.
F
F
Areas
is
really
resonating
with
everyone:
the
connectivity
to
the
block,
but
I
loved,
seeing
that
idea
of
having
the
the
mural
on
the
screen
covering
the
parking
lot,
which
I
thought
was
pretty
brilliant.
So
that
seems
like
something
that
we
could
move
on.
Sooner
than
later.
A
C
And
you
know
I
I,
so
much
of
this
when
you
look
at
it,
it's
like
it
feels
so
obvious
and
I
don't
mean
that
to
say
that
it
didn't
take
a
lot
of
work
to
do
it.
I
mean
that
is
a
sign
of
the
quality
of
the
work
that
was
done
and
so
I.
It
feels
so
good
to
see
something
where
I,
like
my
my
continued
reaction,
was
well
of
course,
or
oh
I.
Didn't
I,
wouldn't
have
thought
of
that.
C
But,
of
course-
and
you
know
what
some
of
the
long-term
visioning
on
this
so
I
I
it.
It
really
looks
like
like
this,
like
the
community
LED,
this
and
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
for
all
the
work
that
went
into
it,
because
it's
it's,
you
know
it
I
think
that
we've
got
a
real
promising
future,
for
you
know
the
center
of
our
town,
and
this
is
going
to
be
the
Keystone
to
that.
So
just
great
great
job.
D
Pete
yeah
I
think
to
build
on
that.
My
earlier
question
wasn't
around
the
politics
of
the
community.
I
think
you
all
have
done
a
really
good
job.
It's
more
saying,
as
this
moves
through
the
decision-making
hierarchy.
What
are
the
because
to
me,
this
thing
can
pick
up
a
lot
of
momentum
really
quickly,
but
how?
What
kind
of
buy-in
would
you
expect
and
I
know
we're
very
early
stages?
A
D
A
Here
we
still
have
a
couple
things
to
do
and
getting
that
buy-in
is
a
really
important
piece
of
this.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
it
up.
Pete
I
want
to
let
everybody
know
or
remind
you
that
we
have
some
events
next
week
that
I
hope
that
you
can
come
out
to
and
I
hope
that
you
will
repost
on
your
social
media
and
share.
A
We've
had
a
couple
posts
last
week
about
this
on
the
city's
Twitter
and
Instagram
feeds
and
we'll
redo
it
again
next
week,
but
the
first
one
is
Friday
morning
next
week
from
10
to
11
A.M
at
the
public
works
or
development
services.
Building,
as
you
might
know
it
it's
where
we
had
the
design
workshop
for
this
project,
Catherine
cut
cutshaw
from
Buncombe
County
Special
collections
is
going
to
present.
A
The
second
piece
of
that
happens
just
an
hour
later.
So
from
noon
to
3
P.M.
We
have
a
drop
in
session
with
an
interactive
self-guided
tour
of
those
10
design-based
recommendations.
Nick
Lowe
from
McAdams
will
be
here
and
we'll
have
a
bunch
of
different
staff
able
to
kind
of
talk
through
how
things
work.
So,
if
you're
most
interested
in
the
two-waying
of
the
street
or
most
interested
in.
What's
how
we
can
support
what's
happening
on
the
Block?
We
can
just
sit
down
there
and
talk
about
it
in
detail.
A
A
We
will
have
Mitch
silver.
Do
a
presentation
and
his
presentation
is
not
just
going
to
provide
an
overview
of
the
plan,
but
he
really
is
going
to
make
that
case
of.
Why
now,
why
do
we
need
to
reinvest
in
our
public
spaces?
What's
the
value
of
public
space
and
in
this
day
and
age,
when
we
have
so
many
other
things
to
consider?
How
can
public
space
really
help
us
as
a
community
and
then
we'll
also
get
to
be
able
to
talk
about
the
plan
itself?
A
We'll
have
staff
there
to
do
a
lot
of
different
feedback
yeah.
Lastly,
I'll
share
that,
as
far
as
the
plan
goes,
we
will
be
having
open
public
comment
on
public
input.com.
The
city's
engagement
hub
for
about
a
month
as
part
of
this
review
process
we'll
be
bringing
the
community
advisory
committee
back
together
and
the
downtown
commission
together
to
provide
a
recommendation
so
we'll
be
looking
to
try
to
develop
some
buy-in
with
these
groups
and
answer
their
questions.
A
Let
them
know
what
the
community
is
saying
through
our
web
portal
and
through
these
different
events,
eventually
we'll
be
at
our
planning
and
economic
development
committee
of
city
council.
That's
scheduled
for
August
14th
presently
and
we'll
be
making
a
presentation
to
City
Council
in
September,
so
it's
possible
that
we
present
to
them
on
September
12th,
and
we
ask
them
to
do
some
kind
of
action
later
than
that
date.
A
The
way
that
that
looks
is
that
we
are
going
to
be
immediately
getting
a
team
on
board,
we'll
be
hiring
a
pretty
pretty
multi-disciplinary
and
highly
skilled
planning,
Urban
Design
and
engineering
team
to
take
that
concept
and
work
with
the
community
and
create
construction
drawings
out
of
it.
These
construction
drawings
are
going
to
have
to
be
able
to
be
doled
out
and
and
implemented
a
la
carte
because
we
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
to
the
Vance
monument
and
we
do
not
necessarily
want
that
to
stand
in
the
way.
A
A
So
that's
that's
about
a
a
one
and
a
half
year
design
process.
A
That's
that
starts
with
hiring
in
October
of
this
year.
Then,
at
the
same
time,
we're
going
to
be
working
with
members
of
the
block
collaborative
and
the
Eastern
Valley
Street
neighborhood
to
talk
about
the
future
design
of
a
cultural
Corridor
on
the
Block,
and
that
work
is
going
to
start
again
in
October
and
by
March.
We
hope
to
be
bringing
on
board
several
different
professionals,
design
professionals,
a
community
facilitator
and
others
that
can
work
with
a
larger
Community
through
a
public
process
to
not
only
design
that
piece
but
built
out
that
Corridor.
A
So
we
have
the
money
to
do
that.
Piece
of
construction.
There's
a
lot
of
community
capacity
building,
that's
associated
with
that
project
and
one
of
the
pieces
that
is
ties.
The
two
together
is
an
initiative
called
sharing
our
stories
that
is
going
to
provide
a
good
deal
of
funding
for
Buncombe
County's
oral
history,
backpack
program,
we're
going
to
turn
it
into
an
oral
and
video
history
program.
We
have
money
set
aside
to
train
a
bunch
of
members
from
the
community.
A
Maybe
you
to
go
out
and
get
at
least
three
new
stories,
we're
going
to
be
hiring
a
story
facilitator.
Who
can
help
us
identify
the
stories
that
we
haven't
heard?
So
perhaps
we
actually
haven't
heard
a
lot
of
stories
yet
or
recorded
them
about
people's
experience
in
the
pandemic,
for
example,
and
we
have
money
set
aside
to
then
create
a
special
event
around
sharing
our
stories
and
involve
people
from
the
Block
and
people
from
all
over
Buncombe
County
and
people
who
are
interested
in
pack
Square.
A
So
all
of
this
is
to
say
that,
while
this
has
been
a
great
experience,
we're
continuing
to
move
on
for
the
next
three
years,
at
least
we're
committed
to
making
these
things
happen
and
seeing
what
we
can
do
to
bring
these
places
to
the
level
that
you
have
envisioned.
A
A
We
don't
anticipate
making
any
like
wholesale
huge
changes
from
the
highlights
that
I
provided
to
you,
but
of
course
there
will
be
text
edits
and
graphic
edits,
and
things
that
are
egregious
will
come
out
of
that
plan.
So
you
can
help
people
know
about
those
events,
and
you
can
help
review
that
plan
for
us
and
then
stay
engaged
and
identify
opportunities
for
the
public,
art
and
cultural
commission
and
different
partners
that
you
would
like
to
work
with
to
do
some
work
in
the
next
few
years.
A
B
You
thank
you
Steph,
it's
all
very
exciting,
and
now
we
have
a
moment
here
where
we
are
going
to
go
around
the
table
and
share
announcements,
the
additional
discussion
and
then
we'll
have
some
updates
on
City
projects.
After
that,
it
looks
like
and
then
decide
on
the
next
meeting
so
yeah
around
the
table.
Who
would
like
to
start
and
share
something.
F
Sorry
I'm
doing
work
with
the.
Why
am
I
and
I
can't
remember
if
I
mentioned
this
last
time,
but
we're
hosting
hard
hat
tours
of
the
building
which
I
know
Steph
has
been
on
one
and
they're
really
exciting,
and
we
can
organize
one
just
for
the
commission
if
you're,
interested
or
I
can
share
we're
going
to
be
scheduling,
more
dates
open
to
the
public.
So
I
can
also
just
share
that
invitation.
Registration
link
with
you
that
way
and
you
can
register
individually
too.
E
That
sounds
awesome,
Pat,
I'm
very
excited
by
all
the
pictures
that
I've
seen
so
far.
The
progress
rcvl
just
announced
a
new
town
hall
event
that
we
have
coming
up
in
August.
Today
we
are
going
to
do
a
town
hall
panel
discussion
and
Q
a
on
Thomas,
wolf
Auditorium.
E
The
event
will
take
place
on
August
21st
from
3
to
4
30.,
mayor
mannheimer
will
be
participating
so
we'll
Vic
Eisley
from
the
BC
TDA,
as
well
as
other
panelists,
as
we
bring
them
on
board.
It
will
be
in
the
arena
on
the
temporary
stage
and
there
will
be
tours
of
Thomas
wolf
Auditorium
before
and
after
that,
people
can
register
for.
D
Yeah
and
I
had
two
things.
That
was
one
of
them,
just
that
you
know,
as
we've
been
talking
about
at
Arts
abl.
This
problems
that
they've
had
at
the
Wortham
recently
really
opens
up
a
strategic
opportunity
for
us,
so
to
really
be
able
to
kind
of
flood
his
own
get
people
there.
You
know
be
able
to
create
some
Forward
Motion
against
us.
I
think
everybody
knows
and
agrees
that
this
has
been
needed
for
a
long
time,
an
upgrade
and
I
think
being
able
to
differentiate
between
kind
of
a
quick
fix
and
strategically.
C
I
ate
the
yeah,
the
AVL
Fest
is
the
gonna,
be
the
the
biggest
city-wide
music
event
that
we've
had
since
bellshare
and
bellshare
ended
count
it
10
years
ago.
So
I
mean
this
is
while
the
talent
is
almost
entirely
local.
C
That
is
a
lot
of
talent.
We've
got
to
make
we've
come
out
and
see
the
amazing
diversity
of
talent.
That's
out
there.
Just
please
come
out
and
support
it
or
you
know
you
didn't,
have
to
come
out
and
just
buy
a
ticket.
That'd
be
great
too,
but
it's
it's.
It's
gonna
be
huge.
I'm
I'll
be
playing
the
set
the
Saturday
night
at
the
funkatorium
and
I
hear
they
have
free
Bud,
Light
now
and
I'll,
be
at
I.
C
Think
was
it
seven
o'clock
we
go
on
and
so
yeah
come
out
and
come
out
and
and
and
find
your
new
favorite
band.
C
There's
gonna
be
about
200
choices
in
different
performers
out
there,
so
it's
it's
just
gonna
be
really
cool
and
I'm
I'm
a
really
it's
a
great
showcase
for
all
the
Performing
Arts
talent
in
our
city.
So
and
I
really
hope
that
we
can
make
it
sustainable
and
get
to
do
it
every
year.
Yep.
D
G
On
Tuesday,
from
12
to
2,
Delta
house
is
renting
a
trolley
says:
we've
had
trouble
with
transportation
and
we
renting
in
we
have
Dwayne
Barton
from
Hood
Huggers.
Our
students
have
been
studying,
exploring
our
community
Through
art
and
history,
so
we're
going
to
33
of
us
are
going
to
go
to
the
Triangle
Park
downtown.
Look
at
the
mirrors
learn
about
the
history.
G
A
few
will
have
a
chance
to
go
into
the
why
my
culture
center
with
a
hard
hat
and
see
what's
going
on
and
then
we're
going
around
to
I
think
it's
four
or
five
communities,
so
they
can
see
what's
happening
in
different
communities
and
we
will
visit
the
gardens
in
this.
Students
have
created
a
model
of
their
community,
and
so
this
is
our
last
week
of
the
camp
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
exciting.
B
A
So
my
understanding
is
that
the
installation
at
Jake,
brusher
Park,
took
place
and
that
they
are
I
believe
I
believe
looking
for
another
date
to
actually
have
a
community-wide
celebration.
But
if
anybody
gets
a
chance
and
to
be
down
in
Arden,
South
Asheville
that
that
area
go
out
to
Jake,
brusher
Park
and
look
at
that
piece.
A
I
do
not
have
an
update
for
Broadway
Public
Safety
station,
except
for
and
I
believe.
This
was
already
announced
that
the
there
was
a
winning
concept
for
that
public,
art,
piece
and
I
believe
it
was.
The
harp
so
looks
like
there'll,
be
a
musical,
interactive
and
musical
instrument
right
there
on
Broadway
near
our
Five
Points
neighborhood,
and
then
the
last
piece
that
we
wanted
to
discuss
is
Art
Deco
Masterpiece,
one
of
our
urban
trail
stations,
and
many
of
you
know
this
update
too,
but
to
share
that.
A
We've
had
several
meetings
with
former
donors
and
private
property
owners
and
artists,
and
we
now
have
Alex
Irvine
on
board,
contracted
to
recreate
a
new
marker
for
Art
Deco
Masterpiece,
the
former
Art
Deco
Masterpiece
marker,
which
was
seven
feet
tall
and
has
been
moved
several
times
because
it's
just
not
it's
not
properly
sized
for
our
public
space
in
that
area
is
highly
likely
to
go
to
drum
roll.
Please
Buncombe,
County,
Special,
Collections
and
end
up
downtown
at
our
library
to
highlight
the
revitalization
era
of
our
downtown.
A
So
we've
been,
we
have
met
with
the
urban
trail
committee
and
Alex.
Irvine
has
some
great
ideas
about
creating
an
interactive
table,
so
the
s
w
building
that
is
being
highlighted
for
Art
Deco
Masterpiece
is
well
known
as
being
one
of
a
important
restaurant
chain
in
the
Southeast,
the
S
W
Cafeteria,
and
that
will
be
a
way
for
us
to
say:
let's
get
some
art
out
in
public
space
that
actually
could
be
used.
A
So
we
would
share
it
with
the
folks
at
the
food
Hall
when
they're
in
business
and
when
they
are
closed
for
the
day.
Anybody
can
go
and
take
a
seat
and
take
a
picture
and
enjoy
the
artwork
that
will
be
right
there.
So
we're
going
to
be
working
on
that
for
the
next
couple
months
and
then
be
in
production,
we'll
let
you
know
more
about
it
as
we
go
on.