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C
Good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
the
December
7th
2022
city
of
Asheville,
multimodal
Transportation
Commission
meeting,
my
name
is
Dennis
and
I'm
the
chair
of
this
group.
Our
meeting
continued
to
be
held
virtually,
but
there
are
many
ways
for
our
interested
parties
to
participate
in
this
Gathering.
The
city
of
Asheville's
engagement,
Hub,
which
includes
a
variety
of
links
and
phone
numbers,
can
be
found
on
the
multimodal
Transportation
Commission
page
of
the
city
of
Asheville's
website.
Visiting
this
page
is
the
best
way
to
take
part
in
our
virtual
meetings,
member
staff
and
guests.
C
C
F
G
Hi
I'm
Jack,
I,
Glenn
and
I
am
on
this
committee.
F
C
C
Was
able
to
join
us
today,
Pat
cats.
B
A
Thank
you,
I
have
been
on
the
bike's
Pad,
but
I
will
be
shifting
off
multimodal
to
the
liaison
the
council
liaison
to
mntc.
C
Excellent,
we
look
forward
to
that.
Then
we
have
Joe
Archbold.
E
Hi
everyone
Joe
Archibald
I,
am
the
liaison
from
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
to
multimodal
hey.
F
C
Elizabeth
and
Kim
Rooney
was
not
not
able
to
join
us
now
we're
going
to
kind
of
work.
Some
of
that
out
to
the
next
meeting
that
Maggie
will
maybe
talk
about
in
a
bit.
Okay.
Moving
on
to
our
first
order
of
business
is
to
review
and
approve
the
agenda.
For
today,
can
we
get
a
motion
to
approve.
C
C
Jack
any
comments
or
questions
on
today's
agenda.
D
I
F
C
One
more
time,
I'm
gonna
as
well
almost
carries
next
item-
is
to
review
and
approve
the
minutes
from
the
October
26
2022
meeting
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve.
C
You
any
comments
or
questions
on
that.
Those
minutes,
Randy.
D
Yeah
and
so
I
noticed,
and
sometimes
we
write
out
the
emotions,
I
think
that
we're
supposed
to
write
out
every
motion,
but
we
didn't
write
out
the
motion
for
the
smart
Grant
proposal
so
and
we
need
we
need
to
throw
that
out,
because
sometimes
we
just
reference
things
through
the
recording
but
I'm
pretty
sure
any
votes
have
to
be
written
out
in
the
minute
and
the
one
on
the
smart
Grant
wasn't
written
out.
So
we
need
to
either
change
I,
don't
think
we
can
change
the
way.
We
do
that
I
think
that's!
A
D
A
I
am
actually
not
100
sure,
but
that
makes
logical
sense
to
me
that
there
be
a
an
actual
emotion
written
out.
Yeah.
D
C
Sounds
like
a
good
good
plan
going
forward.
Okay.
Next
item
is
public
comment.
We
do
have
two
public
comments
today.
They
are
both
pertaining
to
an
item
further
down
in
the
agenda,
so
I'm
going
to
hold
those
up
and
read
those
when
we
hit
that
item,
which
is
about
the
City
County
partnership
for
Transit,
so
we'll
move
on
to
new
business.
The
first
item
is
the
right
away:
purple
right
away
closure
proposal,
Jessica.
A
A
Okay,
let
me
share
my
screen.
This
is
a
proposed
right-of-way
closure
and
we
have
the
applicant
actually
here
with
us,
Mr
Bob
oath,
but
this
is
what
I
would
consider
to
be
a
pretty,
maybe
maybe
one
of
the
simplest
ones
that
we've
had
so
far,
which
is
great
for
great
for
us,
but
unfortunately,
Mr
OST
and
his
client
had
to
go
through
the
whole
process,
just
like
some
of
the
more
complicated
ones.
A
Let
me
see
how
how
can
I
share
this
okay,
so
this
is
related
to
the
central
United
Methodist
Church.
They
are
located
on
Church,
Street
and
well
between
Buncombe
Street
and
Church
Street,
and
they
have
what
is
technically
an
unopened
right
of
way
that
really
acts
pretty
much
like
their
their
driveway
or
is
their
driveway
off
of
Buncombe
Street
into
their
parking
lot.
A
This
is
approximately
150
feet,
long
and
25
feet
wide,
and
you
can
see
right
here.
You've
got
Buncombe
Street
on
the
left,
running
kind
of
north
south
ish,
and
the
County's
parking
garage
is
the
big
white
block
on
the
left,
and
then
you
can
see
what
is
basically
their
driveway
into
the
rear
of
the
into
the
church.
A
So
we
took
this
to
the
TRC
November
7th
and
there
was
a
recommendation
to
approve
the
closure
and
forward
it
to
the
multivotal
Transportation
Commission.
A
D
So,
what's
at
the
end
of
that,
looks
like
there's
something
at
the
end,
so
not
either
side
of
it
is
the
parking
lot.
Obviously,
but
then
right
up
against
the
church,
there's
a
little
cut
out
and
there's
something
there
is
that
dumpsters
that
need
to
be
accessed
or
delivery
spots
that
need
to
be
accessed
or
I.
Just
wonder
what
that
is
there.
J
I
can
answer
that.
Can
you
over
here.
F
J
Of
that
little
segment
back,
there
is
a
little
bit
unclear.
It
shows
up
on
some
class,
but
not
on
others,
and
but
it's
it's
had
the
it's
had
the
ACDC
equipment
on
it
for
as
long
as
I
know
and
and
as
far
as
you've
been
able
to
tell.
Although
this
this
this
street
shows
up
on
a
plant
that
was
recorded
back
in
1894,
it's
never
been
opened
or
maintained
by
the
city.
H
Yeah
I'm
trying
to
get
I
wish
I
could
zoom
out
on
this
picture
because
I,
if
that
is
the
I'm
a
little
confused.
Maybe
this
is
an
obvious
question:
I'm
just
missing
where
the
closure
is.
If
this
is
the
back
parking
lot
that
I'm
familiar
with
across
from
the
parking
deck,
how
would
they
get
in
and
out
of
their
parking
deck?
Because
Commerce
Street
is
one
way
and
already
closed
halfway
down
I'm
a
little
confused
as
to
closing
bunk
that
part
of
Buncombe
Street.
A
So
it's
not
closing
Buncombe
Street!
It's
it's
closing
that
driveway
right
here.
Not
it's
not
physically
closing
it.
It's
just
right!
Now
it's
plotted
as
a
right-of-way
as
public
right-of-way,
and
so
the
church
has
asked
to
have
it
closed
in
the
sense
that
it's
going
to
become
their
property.
A
A
H
A
Yeah
yeah,
it's
kind
of
like
that's
an
important
thing.
I
guess
that
we
should
note,
especially
for
newer
folks,
is
that
when
we're
talking
about
right-of-way
closures,
permanent
right-of-way
closures,
99
of
the
time
we're
not
actually
talking
about
physically
closing
anything,
it's
just
that
we've
got
all
of
these
very
old
plots
from
the
late
1800s
early
1900s
that
they
plotted
something
that
they
said.
A
Oh,
this
is
going
to
be
a
street,
or
this
is
going
to
be
an
alley
and
it
never
actually
became
that,
and
so,
when
we're
closing
something,
it's
usually
about
making
it
private
property,
because
it's
not
useful
to
the
city
as
a
public
right-of-way.
Okay,
that
makes
sense.
It's
helpful.
F
E
Yeah,
of
course,
as
always,
I'm
wondering
at
least
there's
likely
no
development
that
will
be
happening
with
this,
but
then,
of
course
the
other
inevitable
is.
Is
there
any
monetary
compensation
for
this
I
mean
it's?
You
know
public
previous
public
property
that
will
then
become
private
other
than
obviously.
This
will
now
be
part
of
the
private
property
of
the
church,
which,
given
that
it's
a
church,
doesn't
pay
a
huge
amount
of
taxes,
but
yeah.
A
Or
any
no
short
answer
is
no,
we
don't
have
the
mechanism
to
charge
other
than
for
the
actual
process
of
closing.
C
Thanks
Joe
Randy.
D
Yeah
and
Elizabeth
just
real,
quick
on
another
background
information
when
we
close
this
kind
of
stuff
off
too.
The
good
thing
at
church-
and
you
know
church
is
really
closed.
Although
one
closed
on
Hendersonville
Road
Dr
long
ago-
and
it
did
some
really
good
stuff
with
this
property.
So
it
does
happen
sometimes
too,
but
sometimes
someone
might
close
this
and
then
develop
this
area
or,
and
it
could
have
been
an
access
point
to
city
services
or
deliveries
or
things
like
that.
That
would
take
it
off
of
the
street.
D
So
that's
why
these
things
come
before
us
is
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
that
we're
seeing
the
bigger
picture,
because
that's
sometimes
the
developer,
might
be
like
well,
that's
usable
property.
I
can
generate
income
off
of
that
and
then
they're
going
to
park
huge
trucks
in
front
of
there
to
load
and
unload
and
block
the
street,
and
things
like
that
so
or
make
it
harder
for
people
to
walk
through
or
cut
through
on
a
bike
or
whatever.
It
is
like
that
too.
D
So
this
doesn't
seem
to
be
the
case
at
all,
because
you
know
the
church
has
been
there
for
a
really
long
time
and
we
don't
anticipate
anything
ever
happening
to
it.
But
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
look
at
it
is
because
sometimes
there's
other
things
that
aren't
being
considered
transparation
related
to
that
we
might
see
that
they
would
see
foreign.
J
In
the
written
description,
but
it's
in
the
beats
and
Bounds
there's
a
there's
a.
J
C
I
have
a
motion
can.
F
C
L
L
C
You
Kelly
any
other
comment
question
without
comment:
we'll
go
to
a
vote:
Randy
Warren,
aye,
Katie,
Armstrong,.
F
C
C
We
have
a
couple
well,
we
have
one
open
slot
and
then
unfortunately,
well,
unfortunately
for
all
of
us
Maggie's
moving
on
to
the
bright
lights
of
city
council,
so
we'll
be
filling
her
seats
potentially
as
well.
We
have
a
couple
of
of
folks
that
have
raised
their
hand
interested
in
participating
in
our
board.
Jessica.
A
Okay,
thought
I
heard
somebody,
so
we've
got
three
applicants
for
the
multimodal
commission
and
we've
got
one
spot
technically
right
now,
which
is
John
basoni's
spot,
and
he
was
also
on
the
transit
committee.
So
the
intention
would
be
for
this
person
to
also
fill
the
role
in
the
transit
committee,
and
so
you've
got
the
attached
applications
that
you
can
see
and
likely.
A
What
we'll
do
is
bring
forward
these
same
applications
next
time
who
of
those
who
don't
get
approved
today
and
maybe
we'll
get
some
other
applications
in
the
meantime
to
fulfill
Maggie's
spots,
foreign.
C
Okay,
so
we'll
do
one
now,
maybe
one
next
week
for
next
month.
C
Excellent
any
comments.
H
Yeah,
this
may
be
just
another
or
orientation
question
for
me,
but
is
the
mmtc
like
other
commissions,
where
they're
you
have
to
make
sure
it's
balanced
with
certain
zip
codes,
because
I
noticed
that
I
mean
I,
don't
know
where
everybody
is
from
on
here,
but
to
and
from
the
same
area
of
town,
and
one
is
from
one
I
I'm
just
wondering.
If
y'all
are
there
things
like
that,
where
there
have
to
be
enough,
people
from
South,
Asheville,
East
Asheville,
as
well
as
north
and
west.
A
No
there's
nothing
official
that
we
go
by
there's
nothing
in
the
official
ordinance
or
bylaws
that
that
require
that
it
obviously
would
be
a
desire
to
have
a
diverse
group
of
people,
but
that's
not
a
requirement.
I
think
it
is
for
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee.
It's.
H
Definitely
for
the
neighborhood,
which
makes
sense,
but
I
just
wondered
in
General
on
some
of
these
commissions,
because
obviously
there's
projects
that
are
going
on
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
from
West
Asheville
and
a
lot
of
people
from
North
and
Central,
but
and
that's
where
the
projects
are
getting
done.
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
put
in
there
to
think
about
for
future
membership.
That
there's
some
consideration
of
that.
F
C
Yeah
definitely
I
think
it's
something
that
you
know
with
that.
That
information
is
always
provided
to
us
in
the
applications
and
it's
something
I
always
look
at
and
consider
and
trying
to
as
best
we
can.
But
you
know
the
more
folks
that
are
applying
I
think
the
better
opportunity
we
have
to
make
sure
everyone
is
is
got
a
seat
at
the
table.
J
E
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
real
quick
comment:
yeah
thanks
Elizabeth
for
bringing
that
up.
I
know
Kim
when
she
was
on
Kim
Rooney
when
she
was
on
multimodal
was
always
you
know
one
of
the
advocates
for
trying
to
get.
You
know
a
more
diverse
group
of
people
and
and
I
know
it's
come
up
before
with
you
know.
Does
the
meeting
time
have
effect?
E
E
C
And
just
kind
of
a
quick
footnote
to
that
each
month
there
is
an
email
that
is
sent
out
about
all
the
openings
across
all
of
the
the
groups
and
we're
always
encouraged
to
kind
of
spread
that
out
to
our
networks,
to
you
know,
talk
to
your
neighborhood
and
talk
to
anyone.
You
can
just
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we're
getting
as
much
reach
as
possible,
because
the
city
is
always
looking.
C
There
are
always
every
day
opens
spots
on
all
of
these
commissions
and
boards,
and
we're
always
looking
for
folks.
A
Also
just
mentioned
just
for
the
I
guess
the
good
of
the
group
you're
not
required
to
point
any
or
recommend
appointment
of
anybody.
If
you
feel
like
you,
wanted
to
wait
and
get
try
to
get
more
like
that's
always
an
option
as
well.
We
don't
have
a
I
think.
The
minimum
number
we're
supposed
to
try
to
have
is
nine.
If
I
remember
correctly,
I
might
be
getting
that
mixed
up
with
another
commission,
but
you
don't
have
to
pick
anybody
if
you
don't
want
to.
C
Well,
I
think
we
have
a
couple
of
openings
coming
up.
We
have
one
current
and
we
have
one
pending
so,
if
possible,
I
would
like
to
see
if
we
can
get
that
slot
filled
just
so,
we
don't
fall
behind.
We've
had
some
challenges
in
the
past,
where
we
start
to
shrink
a
little
bit
and
just
want
to
make
sure
we
can
keep
the
city
business
moving
Kenny.
L
You
have
a
comment:
I
was
just
looking
at
the
applications
and
you
know:
Joseph
submitted
his
in
February
yeah
and
one
one
is
from
May
and
one
is
from
August
I
think
have
we
had
any
contact
with
these
applicants
to
see
if
they're
still
alive
or
around
or
available
or
is
still
interested,
because
I
I'd
hate
to
appoint
somebody
and
then
find
out
that
they
don't
live
here
anymore?
You.
A
That
is
a
good
question.
That
is
a
practice
that
we
were
doing
and
I
can't
confirm
or
I
can't
confirm
for
sure
right
now
that
we
have
done
that,
for
this
I
didn't
realize
that
they
were
that
that
they
were
that
old
and
submitting
so.
C
I
C
Process
is
you
apply
and
I
believe
you're
notified
that
your
application
will
be
considered
for
one
year
and
if
you
don't
get
appointed
you're
encouraged
to
then
reapply
after
a
year.
So
you
know,
maybe
what
we
could
do
is
make
a
recommendation
here,
get
console's
input
and
approval
or
feedback,
and
they
can
take
a
step
and
then
we
can
reach
out
to
whoever
that
person
might
be
and
then
kind
of
take
next
steps
from
there.
C
Yeah
I
think
those
are
all
considerations
you
know
I
tend
to
when
I
look
at
the
folks,
I
try
to
look
for
you
know
applicable
experience,
and
you
know
experience
in
our
transit
system
and
our
you
know
all
of
our
infrastructure.
You
know
in
my
an
interesting
experience
in
in
the
industry
as
well.
I
find
it
really
helpful
that
when
folks
have
Transit
experience
it's
it
really
helps
us
to
focus
our
conversations
and
get
more
input,
more
really
valuable
feedback.
C
So
is
there
anyone
that
has
any
any
recommendation
they'd
like
to
make.
D
Just
in
my
reviewing
all
the
applications,
it
seems
like
Joseph
dustler's
is
bring
the
real
rest
of
experience
in
a
lot
of
different
areas.
That
would
be
helpful
to
our
our
commission
in
terms
of
Rolex
experience.
The
other
two
seem
as
they
have
it
well
personal
experience
and
not
work
experience
where
Joe
system
like
he
has
significant
amount
of
work
experience.
That's
relatable.
B
Now
I
agree
with
Randy.
That
Joseph
seems
to
be
the
best
qualified
of
the
three
applicants
that
we
could
vote
on
him
today,
even
if
he
was
the
one
back
in
January.
C
Sure
do
you
want
to
make
a
motion
path.
B
I
make
a
motion
that
we
reach
out
to
Joseph
chessler,
to
be
our
next
appointment
for
the
multimodal
transportation
committee.
C
D
A
second
I
think,
actually
what
we
do
is
we
recommend
the
city
council
because
it
wanted
to
make
the
appointment.
So
this
is
just
your
recommendation
from
our
group,
because
the
last
person
to
get
when
I
grew
up
actually
wasn't
recommending
by
our
group,
which
normally
been
our
practice,
so
we're
trying
to
shift
back
to
us
looking
at
the
applications
and
then
making
a
recommendation
to
city
council,
but
city
council
can
do
what
they
would
want
in
terms
of
that.
C
Excellent,
the
motion
in
a
second
in
their
comments
or
questions
all
right,
so
we
have
a
motion:
we're
going
to
take
a
vote:
Randy
Warren,
hi,
Kenny,
Armstrong
I
as
well.
Jack.
C
And
I
would
I
as
well
motion
carries
thank
you
for
that
work
and
we'll
have
another
well
I,
think
I
think
we'll
be
on
the
on
the
email
that
goes
out
again,
asking
for
more
folks
for
a
Maggie's
position
seat
that
will
be
open
next
month.
So
next
item
is
we
have
a
public
Space,
Management
task
force,
Jessica.
K
A
The
public
Space
Management
task
force
is
a
a
sub
for
task
force.
If
you
will
subcommittee
of
the
downtown
commission-
and
you
guys
met
with
the
commission,
we
had
a
joint
meeting
probably
about
six
months
ago.
Actually,
maybe
it
was
a
year
ago,
I,
don't
it's
been,
it's
been
a
while,
but
they
were
a
task
force
that
was
established
several
years
ago,
but
then
they
kind
of
they
took
a
break
for
a
while
and
now
they've
been
re.
Re-Invigorated.
A
And
it's
intended
to
be
a
very
broad
group
of
interests,
at
least
that's
the
that's.
The
goal
is
to
not
have
it
just
be
about
downtown
business
owners
and
needs
of
a
certain
select
group,
it's
supposed
to
be
looking
at
and
balancing
the
various
interests
and
needs
and
and
wants
of
our
public
space
in
downtown
and
our
public
spaces,
our
streets,
our
sidewalks,
our
gathering
areas,
and
so
there's,
obviously
a
multimodal
component
to
this
and
all
of
those
public
spaces
or
most
of
those
public
spaces
are
Transportation
facilities.
A
So
it's
important
for
there
to
be
representation
from
a
transportation
standpoint
on
this
task
force
and,
basically
you
know:
we've
got
three
up
to
three
seats.
If
you
will
on
this
task
force
and
we
had,
we
had
Maggie
and
John
bessoni
and
Bill
Loftus.
The
Loftus
is
still
I
believe
on
that
group,
but
Maggie
obviously,
will
be
stepping
off
that
group
and
we
lost
John
the
Sony.
So
we
need
to
fill
two
more
spots
and
I.
You
know
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
people
from
the
multimodal
commission.
A
It
could
be
that
we
find
other
people
that
we
that
might
be
interested
in
filling
this
role.
Maybe
somebody
from
the
greenway
committee
or
the
bike
ped
task
force,
but
somebody
with
a
transportation
interest-
and
you
know
the
reason
why
I'll
I'll
just
say
that
I
think
it's
very
important,
because
we
had
a
task
force
meeting.
A
Last
week
we
talked
about
the
patent
bike
lane
project
and
unfortunately
there
was
not
very
many
folks
that
were
there,
and
so
there
was
I'll,
say
a
heavier
slave
towards
downtown
business
owners
and
folks
that
were
I'll
just
say.
You
know
really
not
in
favor
of
the
project
and
there
wasn't,
in
my
opinion,
a
very
broad
set
of
perspectives
being
discussed,
and
there
wasn't
really
like
that.
Debate,
which
were,
which
is
the
whole
point
in
my
opinion
of
this
group,
is
to
have
it
be
a
broad
discussion
with
different
interests.
A
So
that's
just
my
pitch
for
let's
get
a
couple.
People
in
that
in
that
group
that
are
going
to
be
able
to
hopefully
be
there,
they
don't.
The
one
of
the
issues
that
that
comes
up
is
that
it
doesn't
have
a
dedicated
monthly
meeting
or
dedicated
time
and
day
so
I
think
that
might
be
something
that
we
could
work
towards.
But
it
is
an
important
group.
They
don't
make.
They
can
make
motions
and
recommendations,
but
it's
not
like
a
it's,
not
like
a
commission,
that's
appointed
by
the
council
or
anything.
C
Thanks
Jessica,
what
we're
asking
folks
to
kind
of
raise
their
hand?
What
what
is
the
would?
You
estimate
the
frequency
of
meetings?
You
know
what
type
of
commitment
are
we
asking
for
folks.
I
I
I
G
A
C
If
I
could
participate
well
as
well,
so
I
can
take
one
of
those
seats.
L
This
is
Kenny
I'd,
be
happy
to
also
lend
a
hand.
It's
a
really
important
initiative.
There's
a
lot
to
think
about,
but
I
think
a
from
a
transportation
perspective.
L
You
know
it's,
we
I
I'm
a
transportation
planner
and
we
talk
a
lot
about
the
public
realm
and
you
know
right
of
way
and
and
Maggie
you're
right.
It's
it.
It's
often
like
well,
this
is
for
cars,
but
really
it's
it's
the
public
realm
and
there's
a
lot
more
to
think
about
than
just
getting
cars
from
point
A
to
point
B
so
kept
me
into.
A
Okay,
yeah
Phil
Loftus
has
is
on
the
group
too,
and
I
think
he
had
taken
Michael
stratton's
place.
So
this
is
I.
Guess
one
good
thing
about
it
is
that
it's
not
a
it's
not
as
formal
like
I
think
we
can
move
people
around
if
and
maybe
have
backups
I'm,
not
really
sure
I
I
can
talk
to
Dana
about
that
she
said
she
did
message
me
and
said
that
she
will
send
some
new
members
send
new
members,
a
very
brief
application
to
fill
out
and
some
background
information.
A
C
Yes,
excellent:
we
look
forward
to
your
reports
back
to
us.
The
next
item
is
the
transit
committee.
Membership.
A
Let
me
go
back
to
so.
We
have
one
reappointment
for
the
transit
committee
and
the
transit
committee
recommended
that
the
multimodal
commission
reappoint
the
current
member
Georgia
berts
for
her
second
term.
D
You're
almost
an
approved
dirty
bird
for
a
second
term
on
the
transit
committee.
C
C
F
C
And
I
would
I
as
well.
Motion
carries
okay,
let's
see
Transit
committee
membership.
Okay.
The
next
item
is
the
proposed
City
County
Joint
Transit
Master
planning
effort.
This
is
the
item
for
which
we
receive
some
public
input.
I'd
like
to
read
those
two
now
before
we
get
into
the
into
the
item
itself.
C
If
you
don't
mind,
the
first
one
is
was
received
on
yesterday
at
10
41
a.m:
hello,
my
name
is
Michael
ackerly
I
am
a
volunteer
with
the
AARP
and
in
that
role,
I
sit
on
The
Artsy
Transit
Coalition,
and
we
would
like
to
request
several
things
of
the
city
and
public
transit
for
public
transit
in
the
next
year.
C
First,
one
being
completion
of
the
first
couple
of
phases
of
the
master
plan,
which
includes
increased
evening
service
hours
until
10
pm
on
all
routes
and
also
increase
frequency
in
the
South
Asheville
area,
and
the
additional
requests
we
have
for
the
city
is
that
they
would
jointly
fund
with
the
county
in
the
next
year,
a
feasibility
study
for
the
Coalition
of
Transit
service
between
the
city
and
county
and
what
benefits
that
could
that
could
provide
for
the
community.
So
we
thank
you
for
your
opportunity
to
comment.
C
Thank
you,
Michael.
The
next
message
that
we've
received
is
from
Vicki
and
mace
hello.
My
name
is
Vicki
mate.
I
am
a
resident
of
West
Asheville
and
the
executive
director
of
just
economics,
just
economics,
is
a
group.
Has
a
group
better
buses
together
and
additionally
I've
been
helping
to
convene
artsy
a
coalition
between
individuals
and
organizations
dedicated
to
to
advancing
Transit
opportunities.
C
While
the
city
of
Asheville
passed
a
Transit
master
plan
in
2018,
the
county
does
not
have
an
updated
Transit
plan
and
artsy
has
been
working
with
the
county
to
develop
such
a
plan.
We've
hoped
this
plan
would
consider
the
future
of
transit
in
our
County,
as
well
as
as
our
County
grows.
Excuse
me,
funding
opportunities
and
the
feasibility
study
analyzing
the
challenges
and
opportunities
of
merging
the
city's
art
system.
C
With
County
transportation,
after
a
lot
of
advocating
and
many
discussions
with
both
elected
leaders
and
staff,
we
now
believe
that
the
city
staff
is
the
most
experts,
has
the
most
expertise
to
lead
such
an
effort
and
encourage
you
to
make
advancing
such
a
study
a
priority
for
the
multimodal
commission.
We
believe
that
the
city
at
the
county
excuse
me,
must
be
an
equal
partner
in
paying
for
such
a
study
and
equally
invested
in
the
outcome.
C
Our
hope
is
that
the
study
will
and
the
ongoing
discussions
between
the
city
and
county
would
con
would
cover
the
following.
We
have
three
points
here.
The
first
point
is
a
feasible
study
of
the
merger
of
the
City
and
County
Transit
System,
potentially
installing
a
County
Transit
Authority,
identifying
challenges
and
opportunities
and
cost
savings.
At
the
very
least,
there
needs
to
be
identification
of
a
better
connections
between
City
and
County
Transit
item
two
is
the
potential
funding
opportunities
or
funding
breakdowns.
C
City
residents
are
also
County
residents
and
the
growth
potential
of
our
existing
Transit
service
is
limited
to
if
the
funding
for
our
major
bus
system
continues
to
be
primarily
primarily
come
from
the
city's
general
fund.
We
hope
there
could
be
an
exploration
of
a
percent
sales
tax
for
Transit
and
or
County
funding
item.
Three
is
the
growth
potential
of
our
transit
system,
given
the
increasing
population
that
includes
both
areas
within
the
county
that
could
be
better
served
as
well
as
improvements
in
frequency
with
the
existing
core
service
within
the
city.
C
We
ask
that
you
work
today
to
please
we
ask
that
today
you
please
work
with
RC
and
make
this
study
a
priority
recommendation
for
the
multivotal
commission.
Thank
you.
Vicki
may
executive
director
of
Justice
economics.
So
those
are
our
two
excellent
comments
and
with
that
we
will
start
the
discussion.
Jessica.
A
Okay,
sorry
about
that
I
do
I,
guess
I
do
have
one
thing:
I
can
share
so
a
while
back
I
I
put
together
some
information
about
what
I
thought
we
could
do
in
working
with
the
county
and
I
put
together
just
the
bulleted
list
of
some
of
the
things
that
could
potentially
be
studied
as
part
of
a
joint
planning
effort.
A
So
what
Vicki
is
referring
to
and
some
of
the
some
of
her
recommendations
or
her
her
requests,
I
guess
are
they're
talking
about
formation
of
a
regional
transit
authority
of
some
kind
in
in
merging
of
our
transit
system,
and
that
very
well
may
be
what
is
recommended,
but
I
think
what
we're
what
we're
looking
at
or
what
we're
thinking
is.
Let's,
let's
study
what
we
have.
Let's
study,
what
the
county
has:
let's
look
at
where
we
have
opportunities.
A
Let's
look
at
the
needs
not
just
from
an
operational
perspective
which
is
kind
of
what
our
existing
Transit
master
plan
focused
on,
but
also
from
the
facility
side
and
the
fleet
side,
which
we
have
I'll
just
say
like
severely,
underfunded
and
or
not
funded
at
all.
I
should
say,
and
and
look
at
look
at
the
global
picture
and
then
decide
is
merging.
What
we
need
is,
what's
the
bright
governance
structure
for
this
kind
of
operation,
then
that
would
be
an
outcome
of
the
study.
Is
that
recommendation?
A
So
you
know
what
this
is
kind
of
a
summary
of
what
I
think
we
would
propose,
but
to
be
honest,
I
haven't
really
had
conversations
with
the
county
staff
or
anyone
at
the
county
about
the
scope
of
a
possible
study,
but
I
I
am
planning
on
submitting
a
budget
request
for
this
coming
budget.
Year
we're
in
the
process
of
putting
budget
requests
together
at
the
moment,
and-
and
it
certainly
is
a
topic
that
I've
talked
about
with
our
city
manager's
office
previously.
A
But
we
haven't
taken
the
leap
into
I'll,
say
more
formal
conversations
or
more
focused
conversations
with
the
county
about
the
potential
for
teaming
up
on
us
on
a
study
together.
C
C
We
have
folks
that
are
moving
out
outside
of
the
city
boundaries
and
we
we'd
like
to
see
if
there's
just
investigate
whether
there's
it's
a
it's
even
possible,
to
put
something
together
where
we
can
have
a
fluid
system
that
could
provide
some
connection
and
therefore
maybe
growth,
opportunity,
and
you
know
some
other
housing
opportunities
for
folks
that
are
getting
a
little
pers
pushed
a
little
bit
further
out
to
use
the
system
and
right
now
it's
just
looking
for
what
would
that
look
like?
Is
it
possible?
C
What's
the
needs,
all
those
kinds
of
things
so
I
think
that's
what
I've
been
hearing
and
then
Randy
and
I
were
both
kind
of
in
communication
with
Kim
Rooney
about
some
idea,
so
we've
she's
kind
of
looped
us
into
this
as
well
Randy,
do
something
to
add.
D
Yeah,
it
seems
at
this
point
as
well
as
like
to
talk
about
this
and
some
thoughts
about
it
and
stuff
too,
but
the
city
seems
to
be
a
little
bit
reluctant
to
put
enforce
any
staff
time
without
any
money
behind
the
project,
and
so
I
think.
One
thing
two
things
we
can
do
one
is
to
encourage
city
council
to
direct
staff
to
start
putting
some
non.
D
You
know
some
effort
that
doesn't
cost
a
lot
of
money.
You
know
to
reward
this
and
then
the
second
thing
is
to
support
about
the
request
for
a
feasibility
study,
because
then
that
goes
through
and
it'll
be
approved
right.
The
next
July
and
you
know
you're
23
24
right
Jessica,
not
for
that's
when
there's
always
a
way,
but
we
don't
need
to
waste
this
time.
It's
we
now
and
then
we
can
start
having
conversations
between
the
cities.
B
Jessica,
are
there
any
existing
coordination
between
button,
County
and
city
of
Asheville
and
the
transportation
area?
Do
you
all
see
each
other
face
to
face
in
any
regular
meetings.
A
No
not
really,
but
just
not
the
the
best
answer.
I
mean
it.
North
Carolina
is
interesting
to
me,
because
counties
don't
actually
own
or
operate
or
maintain
roads
in
the
state.
It's
just
the
state
of
North,
Carolina
or
a
city,
so
the
county
I
think
has
been,
and
probably
all
counties
are
in
this
state
a
lot
more
hands
off
on
Transportation
related
topics
in
general.
A
So
it's
not
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
coordination
that
could
be
improved
not
just
for
Transit,
but
for
everything
like
sidewalks
and
and
such
the
right
now
the
county
doesn't
even
have
a
mechanism
to
fund
or
maintain
sidewalks,
and
they
don't
even
require
sidewalks
in
the
county
for
projects
that
are
built,
which
is
becoming
an
even
bigger
issue,
in
my
opinion.
So,
but
as
far
as
Transit
goes,
we
do
have
a
little
bit
more
coordination
there,
because
we
caught
the
city
contracts
with
the
county
to
run
the
para
transit
system.
A
So
from
a
Paratransit
standpoint,
we
coordinate
with
them
and
we
also
coordinate
with
them
because
they
run
a
three
routes
called
the
Trailblazer
that
connect
to
the
ends
of
of
three
of
our
routes
and
go
farther
out.
So
there's
an
Inca
Trailblazer,
there's
a
one
that
goes
north
up
to
Weaverville
and
then
there's
one
that
goes
to
Black
Mountain.
So
we
coordinate
with
them
on
that.
But
that's
the
extent
of
our
coordination.
D
C
D
Okay,
so
I
also
do
I
think
we
still
want
to
get
to
the
point
where
we
think
if
I
just
bunk
them
counting
too.
Originally
we
really
see
Regional
I
mean
we're
going
up
to
Marshall
or
to
run
to
Mars
Hill.
You
know
or
there's
some
easy
way,
connection
centers,
that
it
would
probably
have
some
decent
fun
or
decent
ridership
because
they
have
national
production
centers.
You
know
where
there's
universities,
you
know
in
Marcel
or
I,
mean
heck
even
Brevard.
You
know
it
is
there's
there's
other
questions
there.
Well
Brevard.
D
Is
that
Anderson
County
or
is
that
Pennsylvania
over
there,
but
anyway
there's
other
counties
that
we
involved
too
at
least
Madison
County,
and
things
like
that
too?
So
maybe
the
land
of
Sky
Regional,
so
we'd
start
with
Buncombe
County.
Obviously,
but
then
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
didn't
structure
it
only
to
be
in
Buncombe
County
in
the
future,
but
perhaps
to
be
region-wise.
C
A
What
would
I
say,
I
think
that
there
had
been
a
joint,
City,
County
meeting
on
this,
with
two
elected
officials
from
the
county
and
two
from
the
city
and
the
city
manager
and
the
county
manager
over
a
year
ago,
so
that
level
of
leadership
has
been
aware
when
and
I
know.
Kim
has
been
really
involved
with
the
art,
C
Coalition
and
the
group
of
folks
who
wrote
this
letter.
A
So
lots
of
different
leaders
have
been
part
of
this,
but
when
I'm
talking
to
different
folks,
no
one
kind
of
Clarity
on
what,
where
who
was
going
to
do
what
next
or
who
was
going
to
own
what
next
it
wasn't
there,
which
sometimes
is
just
a
sign
of
folks,
didn't
end
up
at
the
same
page.
You
know,
and
so
I
think
that
that
Jessica
I
hear
where
you're
thinking
this
is
and
I
think
that
makes
sense
of
kind
of
what
some
of
those
steps
are
and
I
do.
A
A
Then
it
will
have
fuel
behind
it.
You
know
I
I
feel
like
that's.
Some
of
the
limbo
I
wish.
We
were
in
the
same
room
Jessica,
because
I'm
kind
of
looking
at
you
of
like
there's
just
something
to
do
right
and
like
until
there's
really
clear
direction
that
there's
a
lot
of
unified
support
for
this.
You
slept
around
a
transit
system
and
do
all
this
other
stuff
that
were
you
to
have
really
Crystal
Clear
support.
A
A
I
haven't
really
been
spoken
to
you
directly
about
this
topic.
In
probably
eight
months,
maybe
longer
I,
I,
just
I
feel
and
I.
Certainly
in
my
team,
certainly
has
a
over
full
play
right
now.
This
will
be
a
very
major
effort,
but
at
the
same
time,
I
look
at
it
and
I
think
we
have
to.
If
we
want
our
transit
system
not
just
to
grow
but
to
exist
and
not
crumble,
then
we
have
to
find
more
Revenue
sources.
A
So,
whether
that's
and
I,
don't
think
that
the
city
can
be
the
one
who
continues
to
Bear
the
burn
of
that
need
and
I'm,
not
saying
that
it's
Buncombe
County's
responsibility,
I'm
just
saying,
like
I'm,
trying
to
get
from
A
to
B,
which
is
and
B
being
more
funding.
Resources
for
Transit
and
I
I
think
that
the
best
path
forward
to
get
to
that
place
is
with
the
county.
And,
ultimately
you
know
not
I
hate
to
say
it
out
loud,
but
I
think
we
need
to
really
explore
the
quarter.
A
Cent
sales
tax.
That
is
a
legislative
options
for
us
and
could
mean
a
world
of
difference
for
our
transit
system
and
our
community,
and
so
that's
where
I'm
trying
to
head
and
I'm
and
I
think
we
all
just
need
a
push
to
get.
There
do
other
things
to
add
on
the
quarter.
Cent
sales
tax
in
January
Council
will
approve,
what's
called
our
legislative
agenda,
which
is
basically
our
priorities
from
the
community
for
things
that
happen
in
Raleigh,
and
so
we
give
that
to
our
state
senators.
A
We
give
that
to
our
state
legislators
we
give
that
to
our
lobbyists
and
they
like
are
like
okay.
This
is
Ashley's
list,
and
so
council
is
like
talking
through
that
now
there's
already
a
draft
one
of
the
maybe
six
items
on
this
legislative
agenda
is
to
pursue
enabling
legislation
for
the
city
of
Asheville
to
pursue
a
quarter
Cent
sales
tax
for
Transit.
We
currently
are
allowed
to
do
this
at
the
county
level,
but
not
at
the
city
level.
So
that
is
something
that
is
being
discussed
and
is
a
current
priority
in
the
legislative
agenda.
A
I
would
I
would
support
it.
Staying
on
there,
I
don't
know
if
anyone,
if
it's
controversial,
my
guess
is
if
it's
controversial
it
wouldn't
have
gotten
on
the
draft.
I
don't
really
know,
but
so
that
type
of
conversation
from
the
council
leadership
has
been
happening.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
share
is
you
know
how
we
have
all
these
committees.
We
are
on
the
or
the
commission.
A
Council
also
has
Council
committees,
where
groups
of
three
council
members
are
on
a
topic
and
they
meet
monthly
and
up
until
now
there
has
never
been
one
of
these
Council
committees
that
addresses
stuff.
That
has
to
do
quote
unquote
with
the
environment,
so
anything
related
to
the
environment
or
Transportation
kind
of
goes
to
other
committees
for
other
reasons.
A
So
I
I
fully
hope
that
we're
going
to
see
Council
wrestling
at
the
council's
leadership
level
with
Transportation
environment
energy,
stuff
more
than
we
might
have
seen
in
the
past,
so
I
find
that
as
a
hopeful
opportunity
for
Council
to
provide
even
more
umph
for
things
that
we
all
care
about-
and
this
is
this-
is
a
key
priority
of
mine
when
I
received
the
letter
today
that
Vicky
meets
shared
with
our
committee.
I
immediately
responded
to
Staffing
I
would
like
to
see
this
on
one
of
the
environment
committee.
Agendas.
A
I,
don't
even
know
how
those
agendas
are
set
yet,
but
I.
Let
folks
know
this
is
important.
So
thanks
for
asking
Dennis,
there's
a
bunch
of
fragmented
parts
that
I'm
holding
in
my
head
that
I
wanted
to
share.
G
Oh,
that's
me
I'm
on
my
wife's
commute.
Oh
my
gosh
I
got
bumped
off
and
logged
back
I,
don't
know
what
I
did
so.
Okay,
yes,
yes,
Elizabeth
I
just
had
a
question
about
it.
If
there's
any
context
regarding
how
important
and
I'm
sure
it
is
an
important
issue
among
members
of
the
public,
but
I
wanted
some
context
of
if
anyone
had
any
contacts
into
how
meaningful
an
issue,
this
is
among.
G
What
is
have
you
know
is:
how
important
is
it?
How
much
pressure
is
there
from
the
public
to
move
forward
on
something
like
this.
F
C
A
C
I
mean
I.
Think
honestly,
I
think
I
see
that
question
as
part
of
this
study
to
figure
out
what
type
of
demand
there
is.
What
would
so?
What
would
the
framework
look
like
and
with
that
some
type
of
projections
of
use,
and
is
it?
Is
it
viable?
Even
if
it's
you
know,
if
there's
this
additional
funding
source,
is
it
viable
to
have
a
system
that's
going
to
both
provide
convenient
and
reliable
services
and
also,
you
know,
be
able
to
stand
on
its
own
legs
at
some
point
too.
C
So
I'm
not
sure,
if
there's
any
anything
that
exists
now,
but
I
think
that
would
certainly
be
something
that
I
would
a
lot
of
see
as
part
of
whatever
was
put
together
going
forward.
A
And
I'll
also
say
that
the
group
art
C
that
has
been
working
for
well
over
Actually
I,
don't
even
know
how
long
RC
has
been
convening,
but
that
group
represents
a
Grassroots
campaign
called
better
buses
together,
which
is
a
coalition
of
bus
riders.
That's
been
convening
and
advocating
together
for
a
long
time.
It
also
includes
AARP,
Children,
First
Mountain,
true
Sierra
Club,
so
that,
although
that
is
not
like
the
public
at
large,
it
is
a
group
of
advocacy
folks
who
made
up
of
five
and
four
Transit
folks.
A
So
I
think
that
that
means
a
lot
to
me
right
to
me
when
I
folks,
who
spend
their
time
on
the
bus
and
spend
their
time
concerned
about
the
benefits
and
the
the
best
interests
of
the
bus
have
really
come
with.
This
type
of
proposal
is
really
meaningful,
I
think-
and
you
know,
if
we
extrapolate
this
out
to
a
quarter-
Cent
sales
tax,
that's
a
big
old
conversation
that
really
needs
big
public
conversation
and
probably
feasibility
surveying
of
how
popular
those
type
of
things
are
out
in
the
public
as
well.
A
So
I
think
you're,
hitting
on
a
pretty
important
part
that
we
can
be
Visionary
about
what
growth
is
going
to
demand
of
us
from
Transportation.
But
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
community
is
in
this
conversation
at
large,
as
well
as
the
the
thoughtful
Advocates
who
have
been
bringing
this
to
the
city.
C
Yeah
I
agree:
Kenny.
L
Yeah
I
want
to
second
that
it's,
it's
really
refreshing
to
have
a
Grassroots
advocacy
group
coming
to
the
table
and
saying
this
is
what
we'd
like
to
see
and
I.
Think
it's
part
of
our
job
is
to
listen
to
those
and
and
move
those
recommendations
up
the
chain.
I
know
that
you
know.
Haywood
County
has
a
tiny
little
fixed
route
system.
I
know
Henderson
County
has
a
fixed
route
system.
That's
it
has
its
own
struggles.
You
know
they.
L
They
often
struggle
to
get
funding
from
the
municipalities
to
to
help
support
that
and
then
they're
doing
a
study
right
now
in
Henderson
County
to
to
look
into
best
approaches
moving
forward.
So
there's
certainly
there's
not
like
a
one-size-fits-all
model
that
works
here,
and
you
know
the
Regional
Transit
Authority
could
be
something
that
we
explore.
I
know
that
the
mpo
kind
of
recommended
that
as
something
to
to
look
into
so
I
I,
fully
support
this
this
looking
into
it.
Whatever
that
means
I,
don't
know
you
know.
Sometimes
it's
like.
L
B
I
have
a
question
to
Jessica
and
maybe
Maggie.
Does
it
make
any
sense
to
think
more
of
instead
of
having
paying
for
a
study
is
maybe
paying
for
another
position
in
transportation.
A
I
appreciate
that
I
think
I
haven't
thought
about
it.
From
that
perspective,
my
sense
is
that
there's
probably
going
to
be
more
more
positive
action
if
it's
not
an
ongoing
expense,
although
you
could
consider
a
temporary
position,
potentially
I'll
I'll
leave
that
on
the
table
as
a
possibility.
A
I
don't
believe
that
I
don't
well
I
shouldn't,
say:
we've
got
some
new
people
in
our
Transit
Division
I
I,
don't
foresee
I,
don't
think
I'm
an
expert
on
Transit
by
any
means
and
I.
Don't
think
that
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
we
have
the
specialized
skills
to
look
at
things
like
Dan
pool
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
we
would
definitely
need
some
form
of
outside
help.
B
The
reason
why
I
mention
that
is
that
I
I
got
a
position
back
in
the
the
90s
to
help
that
created
a
position
to
help
coordinate
new
money.
That
was
Federal
money
and
they
put
in
there
that
they
needed
to
have
a
staff
person
at
the
local
level
to
facilitate
that
kind
of
coordination
and
because
it
was
new
money
and
when
it
was
new
kinds
of
projects.
I
had
all
kinds
of
alternative
transportation
potential,
but
they
didn't
have
anybody
at
staff
level
to
help
Usher.
B
You
know
through
all
the
paperwork
that
goes
with
the
federal
funding
and
that's
sort
of
what
I'm
thinking
is
it.
If
there
is
money,
maybe
there's
a
position
in
a
grant
or
something
that
would
provide
that
in-house
support
for
you
and
be
able
to
to
do
the
logistics
of
working
at
a
staff
level
in
a
if
you
work
in
a
government,
it's
a
totally
different
situation
than
being
a
consultant
outside
of
it,
because
you
don't
have
that
net
that
built-in
network,
if
at
the
staff
level,.
C
Thanks
Pat
I,
really
like
that
idea
as
well
and
I,
think
the
sense
I'm
getting
is
that
there
is
at
least
an
understanding
that
some
further
investigations
should
occur.
So
if
there's
any
other
comment,
maybe
you've
got
Randy.
Would
you
be
willing
to
go
back
to
your
motion
that
you
were
talking
about
earlier
and
make
that
motion.
D
Sure
yeah
I
motion
that
the
city
devote
do
things,
devote
resources
towards
looking
staff
resources,
without
maybe
additional
funding
at
this
point
in
time
towards
indicating
conversations
with,
let's
say:
Buckland
County
and
the
Metropolitan,
the
MBO
about
establishing
or
investigating
a
regional
plan
or
a
Regional
Transit
Authority,
and
then,
secondly,
that
they
support
funding
for
a
feasibility
study
towards
that
end.
D
Does
that
make
sense?
Oh
I,
don't
overburden
in
terms
of
saying
staff
needs
to
develop
the
time
that
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
staff
has
motivated
by
erupts
to
feel
free
to
work
on
that
is
you
know
on
your
workload
already
going
on
there
too,
so
otherwise,
right
now
again,
so,
let's
be
in
motion,
but
my
my
feeling
was
that
without
a
push
from
the
city
council
or
for
upper
level
management
of
the
city,
this
isn't
going
in
place
right
now
and
we
shouldn't
have
to
wait
a
year
for
to
happen.
A
So
I
think,
if
I
could
make
a
suggestion
just
to
simplify
it,
a
little
bit.
I
think
I
think
what
what
the
conversations
have
been
about:
the
city,
cat
and
County
undertaking
a
joint
Transit
planning
study
and
just
leaving
it
at
city
county
for
now
and,
secondly,
requesting
a
budget
for
the
fiscal
year,
the
24th
fiscal
year
to
do
the
study.
That's
that's
kind
of
the
two
things
I
see.
D
B
I'm,
just
gonna,
maybe
simplify
that
from
what
Jessica
had
in
the
agenda
that
we
recommend
that
that
this
committee
recommends
the
City
of
seek
discussion
with
Buncombe
County
to
fund
a
Transit
master
plan.
B
What
we're
doing
is
we're
recommending
the
council
that
this
become
an
important
issue
for
them
and
for
them
to
seek
leadership
in
the
county.
We
can't
do.
We
can't
provide
the
leadership,
but
we
can
provide
the
recommendation
that
this
committee
thinks
that's
an
important
agenda
item
for
the
council.
What
do
you
think
Maggie.
A
Foreign
yeah
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
ways
to
word
It.
Ultimately,
you
know
yeah
I
think
yeah
like
this
is.
This
is
a
top
priority.
The
transit
committee
has
said
this
is
a
top
priority.
We
agree
it's
a
top
priority
and
then
make
it
happen
and
that
could
be
through
money
or
recommendation.
So
I
don't
want
to
word
Smith
in
there,
but
I'm.
Definitely
aware
of
your
atpat
of
bump.
This
up
in
priority
put
the
effort
working
with
the
county
and
yeah.
So
that's
really
not
eloquent
but
I'm.
Just
kind
of
throwing
glitter
on.
C
That
it's
surprisingly
challenging
it
turns
out.
Okay,
I,
think,
there's
a
motion
of
substitution,
potentially
Randy,
or
does
that
jive?
Maybe
you
want
to
just
one
more
time
we'll
say
it,
then
we
can
get
a
second.
C
Beautiful
and
can
I
get
a
second.
C
C
I'm
an
I
as
well
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
Everyone
good
conversation.
Next
item
is
the
greenway
committee?
Excuse
me
and
bike
head
task
force
Jessica.
K
A
Okay,
I
need
to
find
the
presentation
that
you
put
together.
So
this
is
just
a
discussion
item.
We're
not
making
asking
you
guys
to
make
any
decisions
or
emotions
at
the
at
this
meeting
unless
you're
really
compelled
to.
A
But
what
we
wanted
to
talk
about
is
the
concept
of
combining
what
is
the
greenway
committee
and
the
bike
head
task
force,
and
we
put
together
just
really
some
quick
ideas
and
thoughts
about
about
why.
We
think
this
might
be
a
good
idea.
A
A
Is
not
technically
a
committee
I
think
for
lots
of
reasons,
they're
they're,
not
official
official?
They
don't
have
meetings
that
are
publicly
agenda
publicly
noticed
and
they
don't
have
a
appointment.
Not
all
of
the
seats
are
appointed
by
the
multimodal
commission,
so
it's
been
kind
of
operating
off
to
the
side
a
little
bit
with
Barb's
passing.
A
She
was
primarily
dedicated
to
the
the
bike
head
task
force
and
with
Dan
bechtels
moving
moving
on.
We
took
that
opportunity
at
that
time.
It's
been
about
a
year
to
hello
from
Envision
how
our
transportation
planning
division
in
general
looked,
and
so
the
way
that
we're
structured
right
now
is
that
we
don't
have
necessarily
a
dedicated
bike.
Ped
coordinator
Lucy
has
been
the
previously
was
the
greenway
coordinator.
Now
she
is
the
transportation
planning
division
manager.
A
What
we've,
what
we've
decided
to
do
is
not
try
not
to
have
silos
of
certain
positions
dedicated
to
only
bike
planning
or
only
Greenway
planning.
We
want
our
transportation
planning
staff
to
have
have
you
know
time
to
spend
on
each
of
these
things,
but
also
since
our
network
is
supposed
to
be
connected,
it
doesn't
really
make
sense
to
have
planners,
in
my
opinion,
doesn't
really
make
sense
anymore
to
have
planners
that
are
only
looking
at
one
thing.
A
Instead,
they
need
to
be
looking
at
the
big
picture
and
I
think
just
for
their
own
careers
and
job
satisfaction.
Having
experiences
working
on
different
types
of
projects
is
a
good
thing,
so
anyways
we're
trying
to
break
down
silos,
The
Greenway
committee
and
the
bike
ped
task
force
have
similar
goals
and
concerns.
A
Greenway
is
really
just
the
type
of
infrastructure
that
serves
bicyclists
and
pedestrians,
so
it's
just
one
type
of
facility.
So
what
we're
hoping
is
to
combine
these
groups?
A
A
Lucy
was
the
greenway
person.
Barb
was
the
bike.
Ped
person
and
Dan
was
the
one
who
was
looking
at
like
larger
roadway
projects
with
DOT,
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
now
is
a
more
comprehensive
approach.
A
So
if
we
combined
the
two
and
there's
nothing
that
we'd
have
to
do
officially
like
we
wouldn't
have
to
go
to
council
and
get
approval
for
this
to
really
kind
of
up
to
us
and
up
to
you
guys
what
you
think
we
don't
really
have
a
name
for
it,
but
this
is
active.
Transportation
committee
was
one
one
idea
that
that
we
came
up
with,
but
certainly
could
be
anything
really
so
there
wouldn't
be
an
absorption
of
either
it's
really
just
combining
and
rebranding
into
a
new
committee.
A
It
doesn't
impact
the
transit
committee,
they
would
still
kind
of
be
separate
and
then,
of
course,
there's
plenty
of
work
that
we
can
all
do
together
and
since
we're
all
working
towards
the
same
goals
and
that's
all
I've
got
for
presentation,
I'm
sure
you
guys
have
lots
of
questions
and
again
you
don't
have
to
make
any
decisions
today,
all
right.
C
Thanks
Jessica
I,
I
guess
my
question
is
you
know,
I
feel
like
or
my
thought
on
this
is
that
I
feel
like
this
makes
sense.
I
kind
of
see
this
Confluence
of
of
you
know,
use
that
you
know
these
two
groups
are
kind
of
marrying.
C
I
know
that
when
I'm
on
a
Greenway
I
see
all
varieties
of
you
know
bike
ped
activity,
you
know
motorized
and
otherwise
and
I
think
the
the
goal,
then,
would
be
that
in
this
new
structure,
it's
it's
up
to
that
group
to
make
sure
that
we're
you
know
those
two
purposes
or
or
groups
are,
are
both
being
heard.
There's
so
many
things,
I
think
that
come
out.
C
You
know,
I,
look
forward
to
the
reports
that
we
get
from
these
from
these
committees
each
month,
because
I
feel
like
that
information
really
kind
of
helps
us
to
understand
everything.
That's
going
on
and
kind
of
set
what
we
want
to
talk
about
so
I
think
you
know
just
as
long
as
I
feel
like
that
can
still
happen.
I'm
all
for
you
know
any
type
of
format
that
seems
to
be
more
efficient
and
more
productive
for
the
group.
D
No
like
do
they
test
for
feedings
a
lot,
the
last
one
and
then
the
greenway
community
meeting
last
one
too.
It
was
interesting
because
you
know
I've
only
been
here
for
about
28
years
yet
and
I've
been
on
the
bike
pad
for
seven
of
those,
and
apparently
like
I
said,
was
originally
underneath
land
of
sky
and
not
this
city
before
Atlanta
sky
was
an
NPO
or
if
it
wasn't
NPO,
it
was
just
basically
this
city.
There
wasn't.
You
know
foreign.
D
D
It's
been
around
for
a
long
time,
and
so
that's
it's
interesting,
because
all
the
other
committees
were
formed
after
admissions
because
they're,
a
sub
group
of
a
commission
where
people
said
was
kind
of
absorbed
or
started
reporting
to
multimodal,
because
where
this
guy
changed
its
organizational
structure
and
another
thing
about
the
like,
that
is
that
it's
always
been
the
kind
of
thing
that's
so
fluid,
which
is
a
blessing
in
the
curse.
You
know
so
that
people
could
come
and
go.
D
The
last
meeting,
for
example,
two
people
came
that
I
had
not
met
before
so
that
means
they
haven't
been
to
a
meeting
I
think
in
the
last
seven
years,
but
had
been
before
that
they
were
very
strong
pedestrian
Advocates
one
was
visually
impaired,
and
so
it
was
super
important
to
have.
That
is
a
consideration
too,
and
something
that
can
happen
no
matter
what
too.
But
the
point
is
that
they
were
able
to
they
felt
free
to
drop
into
this
meeting
and
be
very
active
members
of
it
and
not
have
to
be
recognized.
D
As
just
in
the
public
comment
section.
There's
a
lot
of
things
are
run,
you
know,
I
mean,
but
if
something
dropped
into
like
this
Mission
meeting,
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
sit
there
on
the
table
and
and
be
that
really
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
on
a
public
comment
section
so
I'm
not
sure
exactly
how
the
communities
are
on
because
bike
said
isn't
a
committee,
but
that
was
our
stories
of
concern
that
people
have
and
also
too
some
people
on
the
bike
bed
are
from
the
county.
D
They
are
from
the
city,
but
they
still
ride
in
the
city
and
they've
got
experience,
so
this
city
can
use
and
that
kind
of
stuff
too,
and
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
be
eligible
to
be
a
member
of
any
kind
of
committee
for
the
city
too.
So
it's
just
those
kind
of
concerns,
so
we
have
if
we,
if
we
do
this
and
I
totally
understand,
and
so
first
of
all
I
mean
you
know:
I
mean
I,
I'm,
very,
not
possessive
of
but
I'm
very
much.
D
You
know,
passionate
about
spiceling,
specifically,
but
also
walking
and
and
in
greenmaids
and
stuff.
You
know,
I
was
always
confusing.
When
I
first
moved
here
to
calling
Greenways,
we
call
it
remade
anything.
We
sell
multi-use
trails
in
other
parts
of
the
country,
but
so
it's
just
different
because,
for
example
on
but
Wheaton
Creek
Road
ncgc
is
going
to
put
in
something
there
facility
and-
and
you
know
it
looks
like
right
now-
at
least
the
planet
is.
Who
knows
would
be?
D
You
know
a
multi's
trail
well,
I
think
we
should
have
a
bike
lane
in
addition,
or
this
episode
too,
and
those
are
two
different
things
in
some
ways
like
the
right
facility
in
the
trail
you
know
on
the
roadway
would
be
a
bike
head
task
force
issue
where
now
the
multiple
agreement
issue,
so
that
makes
sense
that
we
combine
those
things,
because
it's
really
a
Transformation
Network
and
we
want
to
move
bikes
both
for
recreation
and
transportation,
so
we're
having
them
together.
That
really
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
D
I
guess
I'm
just
really
making
sure
that
what
if
we
preserve
the
best
of
both
these
groups,
if
we,
if
we
would
merge
them
together
that
we
do
it
in
a
carefully
structured
way,
that
would
allow
for
more
public
involvement,
perhaps
than
a
traditional
committee.
Would
have
where
you
have
to
be
appointed
to
sit
at
the
board
and
do
the
table
and
stuff
too
I
mean
like
the
last
meeting
the
meeting
I
went
to
you
know
they
invited
me,
because
you
know
it's
a
difference.
D
There's
a
table,
you
know
if
you,
if
you're,
not
asking
people
you're
behind
and
you're,
not
necessarily
part
of
the
discussion
is
actively
and
so
I
appreciate
that
you
know
they
invited
me
to
the
table,
which
was
nice,
but
we
also
had
other.
You
know,
I
mean
another
person
too
over
there
too,
but
the
other
people
were
sitting
behind
and
then
then
it's
like
you
know,
if
you
want
to
involve
the
conversation,
bring
them
in.
They
aren't
all
part
of
that.
D
So
we
have
to
be
careful,
I
think
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
we
are
more
accessible
than
a
traditional
committee
might
be,
and
also
to
you
know,
on
YouTube
directly
and
excuse
the
Greenways
all
through
Advocate
and
does
such
a
great
deal
with
that
and
I
know.
Her
role
is
changing
and
will
be
more
involved
in
other
aspects
of
other
stuff
too,
but
that's
a
passion
she
has.
D
It's
like
a
you
know,
like
my
exactly
my
passion
too
and
so
I
so
appreciate
you
in
the
presentation,
Jessica
that
you
looked
and
he
said
hey,
you
know
we're
not
absorbing
one
or
the
other
and
it's
becoming
like
a
merging,
because
that
would
be
important
too
how
we
present
this
to
the
Committees
they're
important,
but
to
the
community
as
well
too,
because
this
is
a
public
Avenue
and
when
someone
like
also
I
won't
do
a
public
comment.
D
I'm,
sorry,
some
numbers
over
the
council
I,
don't
feel
that
bicycles,
for
example,
are
a
transportation
device,
they're
a
recreation
device
and
they've
strongly
impressed
expressed
in
public
forums
that
we
shouldn't
put
a
priority
on
facilities
for
bicycles,
because
they're,
not
transpatient,
and
so
I
I.
Think
that
having
this
and
then
and
they
people
said
too,
they
feel
like
National
bikes
drives
all
bike
policies,
for
example
for
the
city,
and
it's
not
the
case
at
all.
D
Like
Ted
drives
policy,
multi-motal
drives
policy
and
we
need
to
make
sure
we
keep
those
as
a
strong
public
input
sourcing
so
that
we
can
present
the
council
that
this
isn't
coming
from
a
special
interest.
Group,
it's
coming
from
a
structural
part
of
the
city
government
so
again,
I
so
appreciate
you.
D
This
is
a
process
that
we're
taking
step
by
step,
which
is
great
getting
a
lot
of
discussion
about
it
and
input,
because
I
think
that's
how
we're
gonna
get
the
best
buy-in,
and
so,
if
we
do
combine
these
so
if
we
can
be
as
inclusive
in
terms
of
people
but
also
ideologically
and
source
of
the
organizations,
fortunately
that's
the
best
way
to
go
forward
with
it.
Because
then
we
can
make
a
stronger
for
us
rather
than
making
diminished
Sports
I.
Don't
think
any
sense
to
anybody,
but
experience.
C
No
I'm
with
you
on
that
and
I
think
you're.
For
me,
your
opinion
really
matters
because
I
think
you
are,
you
are,
as
you
said,
very
passionate
about
this
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
lose
anything
I.
One
of
the
things
that
makes
sense
for
me
on
this
is
that
I'm,
starting
to
see
I
feel
like
we're
going
to
have
use,
not
conflicts
but
rubs
with
our
Greenway
structure
as
that
grows,
and
we
have
these
different
modes
using
the
the
network.
We
might
see
some.
C
You
know
opportunity
to
clarify
how
we,
how
all
these
different
modes
interact
and
so
that,
in
that
way,
I
feel
like
I,
really
like
the
idea
of
those
folks
coming
together,
because
I
think
you
in
particular
have
a
lot
of
experience
in
that
area.
That
I
can
can
drive
a
lot
of
what
happens.
You
know
in
that
structure
and
just
how
we
approach
it
make
sure
that
everyone
can
feel
comfortable
and
safe
and
productive
on
those
networks.
Jessica.
A
Well,
I
was
just
gonna
say
to
to
kind
of
speak
to
Randy's,
concern
or
I.
Don't
know,
fear
is
the
right
word
that
bike
issues
might
get
less
attention.
I
can
absolutely
assure
you
that
that
is
not
the
case.
I
mean
we
are
actively
getting
torn
apart
for
lots
of
plans
proposed
bike
Lanes
at
the
moment.
A
I,
you
know
I
think
we're
trying
to
go
more
aggressively.
If
you
will
on
that
kind
of
infrastructure,
Greenways
seem
to
be
something
that
more
people
support
and
can
get
behind,
and
bike
Lanes,
as
you
know,
are
definitely
more
controversial
and
more
difficult,
but
we
are
committed
to
trying
to
forward
those
types
of
projects
and
I
think
I
think
in
some
ways
having
the
bike.
Ped
task
force
not
be
official.
A
Don't
want
to
say
it
was
a
hindrance
to
that
to
promoting
that,
but
maybe
maybe
we
can
even
be
stronger
in
this
kind
of
configuration
is
what
my
hope
would
be.
A
Oh
and
then
the
other
thing
I
was
going
to
mention
is
like
I:
we've
got
bikes
and
pets,
but
we
also
got
all
these
random
e--devices
I'm,
going
to
call
them
that
are
just
popping
out
of
everywhere.
I
saw
I,
see
all
kinds
of
crazy
stuff
online
right
now
with
things
that
you
can
strap
to
your
feet
and
move
on
so
I
think
that's
going
to
be
part
of
what
we
all
are
going
to
be
looking
at.
E
A
The
future
too
and
I
think
we
have
some
immediate
needs
for
that,
as
well
with
e-scooters
and
e-bikes
and
Greenway
use
and
who
gets
to
use
what
facility.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
topic
as
well.
C
I
agree:
Jack.
G
Yeah
my
two
cents
is
that
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
pull
them
together.
You
know
it's
so
many
of
the
issues
that
Greenways
face
are
at
the
edges.
You
know
where
the
greenway
merges
or
meets
roads
and
sidewalks
and
I
think
it
sends
a
good,
a
strong
message
to
the
public.
Maybe
putting
these
into
under
one
umbrella.
I
think
it
maybe
clarifies
that
they
have
similar
goals.
G
You
know
so
I
think
it's
a
smart
I,
definitely
think
it's
a
a
smart
move
and
maybe
I
do
share
the
you
know
the
concern
that
some
issues
might
get
you
know.
Does
it
become
more,
you
know
bike
focused
or
does
it
become
more
Greenway
focused,
so
I
think
thoughtful
leadership
with
a
thoughtful
agenda
will
help
that
I.
Don't
think,
that's
something!
That's
insurmountable!
B
To
continue
on
that
theme,
I
see
the
bicycle
Transportation
connecting
to
Greenways
is
being
a
network
and
that
they
would
be
reinforcing
each
other
and
strengthening
each
other
because
they
are
using
the
same
Pathways
and,
like
Jack,
says
I'm,
seeing
more
e-bikes
I'm,
seeing
parents
with
their
kids
on
their
bicycles
for
transportation,
connecting
to
schools
and
bikes,
schools,
parks
and
libraries.
Kind
of
thing.
I
definitely
see
the
bicycles
being
a
network.
A
I
guess
there's
a
point
of
process.
It
sounds
like
this
is
me
just
making
sure
I'm
getting
it
clear
that
Randy
at
bike
ped,
which
I
am
technically
a
member
of
and
have
the
worst
attendance
y'all
have
talked
about
this.
This
has
come
through
bike
ped
and
then
the
question
has
this
gone
to
the
Greenways
committee
like
I
would
love
it.
A
K
K
Sorry,
Randy
The
Greenway
committee
brought
it
up
a
couple
months
ago
and
the
last.
K
November,
we
invited
the
bike
ped
task
force
to
come
and
talked
about
the
possible
merge
and
expressed
the
pros
and
cons
that
then
I
think
that
both
left
with
the
idea
that
it
would
be
a
good
idea.
There's
certainly
still
some
concerns,
but
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity,
especially
since,
since
covet
in
particular,
the
bike
head
task
force
has
lost
some
steam,
certainly
losing
Barb
and
Janet
Barlow,
with
some
big
hit
and
other
big
players
like
Terry
March.
K
Luckily,
our
safe
and
sound,
but
are
very
happy
during
her
retirement
honeymoon
and
has
been
around
very
much
and
stuff
like
that,
so
some
of
the
steam
that
was
behind
bike
ped
task
force
has
been
lost
and
the
same
with
the
greenway
committee
we've
had
members
who've
rolled
off
because
they're
terms
have
ended
and
we're
low
on
numbers.
So
this
is
a
good
time
for
the
two
committees
to
become
one
and
I.
K
Think
that
we're
at
a
point
where
we
can
really
Define
what
we
want
our
tone
to
be
what
we
want.
The
way
that
we
engage
with
the
public
to
get
feedback
like
the
both
committees
really
used
to
do
the
task
force
and
the
greenway
committee
have
a
lot
more
public
visitors
during
our
meetings
before
covid,
so
I
I
think
this
is
a
good
time
to
really
be
considering
this.
A
A
This
seems
like
it
is
covering
similar
ground
and
like
trying
to
address
similar
challenges,
and
so
my
sense
is
that
have
this
conversation
gone
through
that
group
or
not,
because
I
could
imagine
if
this
decision
were
made
today
by
this
group
and
that
other
group
who's
being
really
thoughtful
and
put
out
a
survey
and
putting
time
into
it,
it
would
feel
like
there's
some
duplication
and
disconnection,
and
so
I
feel
like
that.
A
A
So
a
couple
things
we
we
did
initiate
the
concept
or
the
the
idea
to
assistant
city
manager
and
the
clerk's
office,
and
so,
but
we
said
that
we
wanted
to
have
conversations
with
you
guys,
first
about
it,
I
think
I
think
internally,
everybody
thinks
that
it
has
a
the
idea
or
the
concept
is
in
alignment
with
the
overall
discussion.
A
That's
occurring
and
technically
it
wouldn't
have
to
go
through
a
formal
process,
because
the
multimodal
has
the
authority
to
kind
of
decide
how
it
wants
to
have
its
subcommittee,
but
we
would
make
sure
that
it's
not
in
conflict
with
any
of
that
effort.
That's
happening
kind
of
separately
for
a
mess
right
now,
I,
don't
know
if
that
answers
your
question.
F
F
E
A
Headline
that
doesn't
get
the
essence
of
Our
intention,
but
but
makes
it
look
like
you
know
what
I'm
trying
to
say,
like
yeah
I,
think
that,
like.
F
A
You
searching
their
thoughtful
planning
because
they're
doing
a
lot
of
work
now
and
they
could
see
this
type
of
consolidation
strategy
as
kind
of
under
their
purview
mm-hmm.
But
you
talked
to
this
yeah
y'all
are
vetting.
Those
I
just
want
to
lift
up
again,
just
make
sure
that
we
follow
a
really
good
process
to
honor
everybody
who's,
putting
in
really
thoughtful
time
to
make
sure
we
Engage
The
our
neighbors
really
well.
A
C
Yeah
I'm.
Sorry,
please
ready.
D
That's
one
point,
and
the
second
point
is
the
biggest
disadvantage
of
this-
is
that
people
who
are
don't
want
to
be
formally
part
of
the
committee
having
or
are
eligible
to
be
part
of
the
committee
to
have
a
voice
in
the
process,
so
I
I
hate
to
have
people
who
live
in
the
county,
for
example,
but
come
to
like
the
task
force
right
now,
then
they're
welcome,
because
it's
not
being
an
official
part
of
the
city.
They
can
do
that
they
feel
like
they
don't
have
a
place
then
to
voice
their
concerns.
D
So
we
just
need
to
structure
in
such
a
way
that
we
make
sure
that
they
feel
like
this
is
still
a
vehicle
for
them
or
if
this
isn't,
if
we
say
you
really
should
then
be
a
part
of
such
and
such
group
and
again
when
this
pregnant
task
list
was
formed,
it
was
long
before
multimodal
and
all
those
types
of
things,
and
it
wasn't
so.
You
know
it
had
a
history
that
extends
beyond
the
current
structure.
D
Excuse
me,
which
is
fine
but
I,
just
don't
want
to
alienate
people
again
like
there's
lots
of
people
that
came
to
this
last
meeting
had
been
there
for
a
long
time
and
they
felt
like
they
were
so
welcome
and
they're
contributed,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
still
have
to
offer
an
opportunity
for
those
people
to
do
that.
So
those
are
the
two
biggest
things.
I
think
that
would
alleviate.
Most
of
the
concerns
of
any
hesitancy
was
one
that
we're
rushing
in
plenty
of
times.
C
Yeah
I,
maybe
I,
can
just
add
one
more
thing
or
I
could
see
where
it
seems
like
the
the
two
committees
are
okay
with
it.
There's
been
a
lot
of
conversation.
Maybe
there
is,
it
does
make
sense
to
go
back
and
ask
for
a
recommendation
from
that.
I
like
that
idea,
but
to
Maggie's
point
I
am
a
little
bit.
You
know,
I
I,
wonder
you
know,
I,
don't
know
it
just
feels
like
the
timing.
C
I,
don't
know
what
the
timing
of
that
I
know
that
other
group,
it's
a
quite
a
bit
of
you,
know
a
hot
potato
and
you
know
we
don't
need
to
get
in
any
of
that.
But
I
think
maybe
it
doesn't,
you
know,
are
we
creating?
Are
we
borrowing
trouble
here?
I
guess
you
know.
Does
it
feel
like
that
at
all,
or
does
it
just
make
sense
to
kind
of
going
forward.
A
Well,
I
I
can
tell
you
that
I
I
have
always
since
I
got
here,
felt
a
little
uncomfortable
with
the
fact
that
we
were
dedicating
staff
time
to
do
a
group
that
didn't
want
to
be
official.
A
It's
always
felt
a
little
odd
and
awkward
to
me
as
a
as
a
government
person.
Maybe
that's
just
me
being
a
government
person
I,
you
know,
I,
don't
think
that
there's
any
there's
nothing
that
is
keeping
the
bike
ped
task
force
from
continuing
to
be
their
group
like
it's
I,
don't
I,
don't!
This
is
a
really
bad
analogy,
so
don't
take
it
disrespectfully,
but
it's
like
it's
like
a
book
club
kind
of
like
they
can
still
do
their
thing
and
they
can
come
to
multimodal
with
things
that
they
want.
A
But
it's
the
unofficialness
of
it
has
always
been
a
little
bit
Troublesome
to
me
from
a
public
input
standpoint,
a
public
notification
standpoint,
it's
just
so
I,
don't
know
that
we,
if,
if
we
decide
not
to
do
this,
I'm,
not
sure
that
we
can
dedicate
a
staff
person
to
it
anymore.
A
We've
just
got
a
lot
of
stuff
on
our
plates
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
things
legally
correctly
and
so
I
I
think
that
this
would
be
a
move
in
that
direction
as
well
from
a
public
notice
standpoint,
public
input,
making
sure
that
we're
being
on
the
up
and
up
with
the
the
legal
stuff
behind
it.
D
Yeah,
just
real
quick,
it's
a
nice
point,
I
mean
I
think
it
was
great.
The
headline
was
today's
paper.
That
said,
you
know
that
the
consolidation,
the
commissions
are
getting
rid
of
the
commissions,
is
kind
of
off
table
and
moving
forward,
so
I
think
actually
a
little
bit
of
a
break
from
that
announcement
helps
us
a
little
bit
of
this
process,
because
that
was
super
contentious
in
and
so
I.
A
That
you're
using
past
tense
and
I
have
four
emails
in
my
inbox.
Just
from
this
week.
Talking
about
the
current
process
and
and
work
group,
that's
evaluating
the
boards
and
conditions.
So
there
are
very
active
neighbors
who
see
this
decision
making
and
thinking
as
a
current
present
tense,
so
I'm
not
trying
to
mess
yeah
with
it,
but
I
just
want
it.
A
How
about
we
just
I
mean
all
I
wanted
was
a
discussion
today
and
I.
Think
we've
we've
got
that
and
we've
got
a
good
sense
of
their
support,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it
is
not
in
contrast
or
against
what
might
be
occurring
in
the
other
group,
and
so
we
can
go
back
and
have
some
more
conversations
with
them
and
and
see.
A
C
Okay,
moving
on,
we
got
a
couple
of
minutes
left
here,
so
you
can
bang
through
some.
Is
there
anything
from
unfinished
Fitness
business
business
that
we'd
like
to
address?
Okay,.
D
I'm
sorry,
this
is
unfinished
business,
but
it's
in
the
speed
forcing
and
Technology
it's
a
separate
it's
in
the
it's
in
the
future
business
future
gen
items
there's
unfinished
business.
We've
brought
this
up
before
there's
an
article
link
to
California
having
issues
with
their
so
I
did
a
little
research
on
that
today.
D
That
law
never
went
past
the
California
legislature,
so
they
never
influenced
that
at
all,
but
they're
all,
but
in
the
research
and
again
I
mean
it
dealt
with
a
lot
of
times.
There
was
a
study
after
study
after
study,
after
studies
or
study
that
shows
the
automated
traffic
enforcement
devices.
Reduced
crashes,
reduce
personal
injuries,
which
is
I'm,
sorry
I,
shouldn't,
say:
there's
no
good
reason.
D
I
want
to
say
there's
no
good
reason
that
they
have
them
and
I
know
the
state
of
North
Carolina
makes
it
really
hard
for
us
to
have
them,
but
the
issues
raised
in
that
article
I,
don't
think
supports
our
cause.
I
guess
maybe
they're
just
put
in
there
to
help
raise
concerns
seems
to
me
like
there's
more
specific
legislation
concerns
because
of
Rusty
North
Carolina
and,
as
Jessica
says,
killing
your
roads.
D
This
is
the
weird
thing
for
me
too,
but
but
yeah
so
so
maybe
we
should
put
that
so
I
mean
I
know
we
talked
about
having
this
be
a
one
of
something
that
the
city
has
a
agenda
for
the
state
legislation
and
then
Orthodox
for
all
this
kind
of
stuff
too.
But
again,
it's
proven
over
and
over
and
over
again
the
way
to
make
things
safer
and
the
state
says
the
division,
zero
policy,
and
yet
they
will.
They
refuse
to
do
things
in
the
influence.
D
C
All
right,
I'll
go
into
the
committee
updates.
I,
don't
think
right
now
we
just
have
Bill
on
Transit
and
he's
not
with
us
today.
So
we'll
put
that
off
the
attached
reports,
as
always,
are
prepared
and
in
our
agenda
Greenway
committee.
L
Yeah
well
can
I
hear
Lucy
left
so
I'll
fill
in.
We
didn't
have
a
meeting
in
December
because
we
went
to
the
Carolina
thread.
Trail
Forum
in
Morrisville,
which
was
a
celebration
of
authoring's
Greenway
North
Carolina
at
the
state
level,
has
designated
2023
as
year
of
the
trail.
F
L
Look
for
a
lot
of
state-sponsored
activities
and
promotion,
and
hopefully
funding
for
some
new
trails
and
a
celebration
of
Greenways
and
hiking
trails
and
connecting
the
whole
state
this
this
coming
year.
That
was
a
big
piece
of
the
Forum,
but
as
somebody
on
the
greenway
committee,
our
last
meeting
in
November,
we
did
talk
about
the
the
merging
and
it
seemed
like
from
the
bike
task
force.
L
There
was
a
lot
of
emotion
involved
with
kind
of
dissolving
their
group,
so
while
we
kind
of
agreed
that
sure
it
made
sense
from
a
staffing
level
and
all
that
we
did
table
that
decision
to
one
way
or
another
until
our
next
meeting,
which
would
be
in
January.
So
if
multimodal
is
looking
for
a
decision
from
The
Greenway
committee,
that'll
come
in
January,
where
we
decide
as
a
group
one
way
or
another
personally
I
feel
like
it
makes
sense
to
kind
of
Rebrand
The
Greenway
Committee
in
active
Transportation
committee.
L
I,
don't
really
support
dissolving
the
bike
pen
task
force.
It
seems
like
a
really
good
advocacy
group
and
more
of
a
casual
venue,
but
I
do
understand.
Jessica's
point
about
Staffing
that
so
maybe
like
pentask
force
is
continues
to
be
a
thing,
but
less
of
a
an
official
task
force
of
any
kind
of
City
commission
where
there's
no
Staffing
involved.
It's
just
a
group
that
gets
together
to
talk
about
all
things,
but
but
as
a
Greenway,
Committee
Member
I
do
kind
of
support
the
rebranding
of
that
committee
anyway.
C
You
thanks
Kenny
bike
path,
right.
D
Yeah
so
again
we
had
a
robust
discussion
about
the
the
also
the
combining
the
Committees
are,
there's
only
both
really
and
then
performing
a
new
committee.
We
also
had
a
preliminary
bike
ped
count
report
too,
and
we'll
have
a
final
one
submitted
with
our
annual
report
that
we're
working
on
in
our
December
meeting,
which
we
always
have
at
the
French
Broad
Chocolate
Lounge.
D
So
anybody
wants
to
join
us
on
the
15th
at
5,
30,
there's
a
chocolate
on
that's
when
we
do
our
annual
report
in
honorable,
because
you
love
doing
the
reports,
that's
there
there
and
so
just
preliminarily
briefly,
that
the
comments
are
up
more
pedestrians,
more
bikes,
mostly
more
bikes
in
areas.
You
know
it
just
shows
that
people
are
continuing
to
use
active
transportation
more
here
and
we
stable
for
energy
and
time
to
it.
So
it
is
again
it's
very
it's
not
super
scientific,
but
it's
a
decently
profit.
D
You
know
over
a
number
of
years,
tracking
of
use
of
certain
intersections
and
Productions
and
bicycles
and
how
they
use
them,
and
so
it
does
help
us
to
have
some
numbers.
You
know
position
super
scientifically
based
to
show
that
we
have
people
biking
and
walking
in
the
city,
and
we
should
pay
attention
to
them.
So
again,
that
report
will
be
included
with
the
like
that
annual
report
just
submitted
to
multimodal.
C
Let's
see,
pnz
Joe
had
to
step
away
to
go
to
his
PNC
meeting,
so
he'll
have
an
update
on
that
meeting
going
on
right
now
next
month,
for
us
I
think
Elizabeth
had
to
step
away.
So
that
is
everything
on
our
reports.
Please
note
the
future
agenda
items
just
take
a
moment
to
say
Maggie.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
a
part
of
our
group.
C
We
are
sorry
to
see
you
go,
but
we're
very
excited
to
have
yet
another
alumni
out
there
in
the
bright
lights,
taking
good
care
of
us
and
and
forwarding
the
the
positions
of
this
group.
So
we
wish
you
all
the
best
and
we
thank
you
for
all
your
service.
D
A
C
You
are,
of
course,
always
welcome,
so
we
thank
you
so
much
without
other
comments
or
questions.
The
meeting
is
adjourned
thanks.
Everybody
have
a
great
happy
holiday
season.
Everyone.