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A
B
A
Live
good
morning,
I'm
Vice,
chair,
Sarah,
Copley
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
August
26th
2022
homeless,
initiative
advisory
committee
meeting.
This
commission
is
composed
of
not
more
than
16
members
representing
various
Focus
areas
or
agencies
such
as
philanthropy,
Buncombe,
County,
supportive,
permanent
housing,
mental
health,
substance
abuse,
legal
educational
Etc.
A
The
term
of
the
office
is
three
years
and
members
are
appointed
by
city
council
and
County
Commissioners,
eight
members,
each
this
committee
also
hears
monthly
updates
currently
from
the
National
Alliance
to
end
homelessness,
about
their
current
project,
to
conduct
a
comprehensive
needs
assessment
on
unsheltered
homelessness
and
developed
strategies.
Our
community
can
Implement
in
response
all
community
members
and
staff
are
participating.
Virtually
we
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
Hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
Hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website.
It
is
also
linked
on
the
Hayak
webpage.
A
D
Hey
good
morning,
my
name
is
Lance
Crawford
I'm,
the
director
of
Workforce
Development
for
Goodwill
I've,
been
a
part
of
this
group
since
last
year
and
been
involved
with
homeless
initiatives
for
a
couple
years
now
previously
on
the
youth
homelessness
committee
and
as
Goodwill.
We
just
want
to
be
a
part
of
this
conversation
to
use
our
resources
to
help
this
initiative.
And
you
know
our
focus
is
on
employment,
which
we
know
is
just
a
small
piece
of
the
puzzle,
but
we
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
initiative.
That's
set
forth
by
this
group.
E
I'm
Olivia
Diaz
I
guess
I've
been
on
this
board
for
at
least
four
years.
Sliders
I.
E
Street
medicine
and
yeah
I
guess
that's
it.
A
G
G
I'm
Rick
Freeman
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Coalition
of
Asheville
neighborhoods
I,
am
treasurer
of
the
Kennelworth
Forest
residence
Association,
which
is
right
behind
the
mall
and
I
also
lead
our
neighborhood
watch
I've
been
in
Asheville
for
soon
to
be
six
years
and
it's
the
first
time.
I
really
lived
in
the
middle
of
an
urban
situation,
so
I
guess
I
would
say:
I've
been
involved
with
homelessness
as
an
observer
for
that
entire
six
years.
G
As
those
of
you
who
know
what
Tunnel
Road
looks
like
these
days,
those
folks
tend
to
wander
into
our
neighborhood
now
and
again
and
used
to
Camp
until
we
cleaned
up
some
parks
and
then
I
got
engaged
a
year
ago,
as
the
discussion
around
the
Ramada
Inn
as
a
low
barrier,
shelter
started
to
fire
up
and
you
know,
engage
with
Nikki
and
Emily
and
trying
to
represent
the
20
neighborhoods
that
Coalition
of
Asheville
has
his
members
I.
G
Think
my
role
in
this
is
two
parts:
I've
educated
myself,
a
bunch
but
I
have
a
long
way
to
go
and
I
want
to
learn
as
much
as
I
can
and
I
want
to
use
the
reach
of
the
Coalition
of
national
neighborhoods
to
get
education
out
to
people,
because
there's
just
a
lot
of
false
information
that
makes
people
believe
certain
things,
but
also
after
meeting
with
folks
from
the
National
Alliance,
it
seemed
like
it
would
be
good
to
have
a
voice
from
neighborhoods
that
feel
the
impact
of
homelessness.
G
H
Good
morning
happy
to
be
here,
it's
also
my
first
or
second
meeting
I
work
for
Buncombe
County
EMS
I
manage
the
community
paramedicine
program,
which
is
also
known
as
the
port
team,
also
expanding
to
work
on
some
Outreach
and
try
to
support
the
efforts
of
all
the
folks
on
here
and
other
folks
in
the
community
who
are
already
working
so
hard
happy
to
be
here.
Thanks.
I
Morgan
everybody,
my
name
is
Marcus
laws.
I'm
the
homeless,
Services
director
for
home,
abound
in
Western,
North
Carolina
I
oversee
the
a
hope
day,
Center
at
19
North
Ann
Street.
This
is
my
second
meeting
I've
been
with
Homeward
Bound,
going
on
six
months
now
and
I'm
happy
to
be
here.
J
Hey
y'all
I'm
Dustin
mailman
I'm,
the
associate
pastor
at
Trinity
United
Methodist
in
West,
Asheville,
I'm,
deeply
connected
to
Haywood
Street
congregation
in
various
pockets
of
different
Justice
oriented
folks
and
just
thankful
to
be
here
good
to
be
with
y'all.
This
is
my
second
meeting
as
well.
K
K
K
My
role
here
is
to
represent
the
housing
authority
and
the
various
programs
that
we
have
addressing
homelessness
and
collaboration
with
other
Community
Partners
and
to
ensure
that
our
neighborhoods,
which
are
probably
the
most
impacted
neighborhoods
in
Asheville,
impacted
by
people
experiencing
homelessness,
are
represented
and
that
we
have
a
coordinated
Continuum
of
Care
that
that
drives
policy
about
how
Asheville
will
address
homelessness.
L
Good
morning,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Jessica
supik
I
am
the
homeless
and
Dr
Carol
liaison
for
Asheville
City
Schools
I've
been.
This
is
currently
my
fourth
school
year
coming
up
with
the
district
I
work
closely
with
numerous
organizations
around
our
around
the
city
that
focus
on
serving
our
kids
and
providing
resources
for
our
kids
and
families
with
Asheville,
City,
Schools,
I
guess.
My
role
on
this
board
was
just
to
continue
to
be
a
voice
and
advocate
for
our
families
and
children
within
the
city
limits.
M
Good
morning,
I'm
Jen
Teague
I'm,
the
program
manager
for
aging
and
adult
services
with
Buncombe
County
Health
and
Human
Services
I,
oversee
Adult,
Protective
Services,
some
of
our
adult
care,
home
Family,
Care,
home
complaint
investigations
and
also
a
significant
amount
of
contract
management
and
so
partner
with
the
city
in
relationship
to
contract
funds
to
support
unsheltered,
unhoused
homelessness
programs
in
our
community
and
I'm
really
here
to
continue
to
talk
about
building
collaborations
and
supporting
those
in
our
community.
Through
Services
resources
and
support.
A
Thank
you
Jen,
and
my
name
is
Sarah
cockley
I'm,
the
special
initiative
officer
with
wnc
Bridge
Foundation
I've
worked
in
philanthropy
and
development
for
the
last
15
years,
I
believe
the
development
director
I'm
in
office
also
Wisconsin
Center
and
postal
Legal
Services,
as
well
as
research
organizations,
I'm
a
former
nurse
and
a
psychiatric
nurse,
and
the
issue
of
homelessness
and
intersecting
with
mental
health
was
really
important
to
me.
My
family
has
experienced
that
it's
just
a
passion
of
mine.
A
My
reason
for
applying
to
kayak
is
really
to
Drive
philanthropy
locally
and
region
rates.
It
really
be
responsive
to
our
current
problems,
so
hopefully
we're
making
a
Headway
on
that
all
right.
Thank
you
all
for
taking
time
to
introduce
yourself
as
we
have
new
members
and
old
members
as
we
move
forward,
it's
really
an
exciting
time,
so
you
were
able
to
review
the
consent
agenda
from
July
29
2022.
If
anyone
have
any
questions,
concerns
or
comments
on
the
consent
agenda.
A
A
Oh
yes,
we
do
sorry,
thank
you,
Lance,
yay
or
nay,.
D
A
I
K
A
E
M
N
Awesome.
Thank
you,
sir
good
to
see
everybody
welcome
Rick.
It's
so
great
to
see
you
on
the
Hayek.
That's
fantastic
I'm,
gonna
Josh
is
going
to
kick
us
off,
but
just
for
a
quick
bit
of
context
for
folks
that
are
new
as
a
part
of
our
work
in
the
community.
N
We're
just
been
grateful
to
get
a
little
bit
of
your
agenda
time
to
just
do
some
continued
level
setting
on
best
practices
and
and
system
structure,
so
that
you
all
are,
we
think,
better
prepared
to
receive
the
needs,
assessment
and
recommendations
report
as
we
give
it
so
yeah
you'll
have
some
of
that
contacts
of
what
is
included
in
those
reports.
So
this
is
just
a
continuation
of
a
of
an
ongoing
conversation
that
we've
been
having
with
the
community
since
June,
in
particular
on
the
Hayak.
O
Yes,
can
you
guys
hear
me
because
I
can't
my
screen,
Google
meeting
screen
has
disappeared
from
my
screen,
so
I
cannot
see
or
hear
anybody
or
see
anyone
can.
O
Perfect
all
right
well,
good
morning
again,
as
Chris
said,
this
is
we'd
like
to
use
this
time
to
one
just
ensure
we're
all
kind
of
speaking
the
same
language
and
for
you
all
to
understand
kind
of
the
lens
in
which
you
know
we're
addressing
this
project
and
what
we
mean
when
we
say
certain
certain
verbiage,
one
and
I
also
want
to
say
it's
really
exciting,
to
kind
of
see
how
one
the
passion
that
you
all
have
to
to
work
in
the
community
to
meet
the
needs
of
some
of
the
most
vulnerable.
O
But
it's
really
great
to
you
know,
see
the
diverse
folks
on
this
call
and
kind
of
see
the
the
the
direction
which
you
guys
are
going.
So
that's
really
exciting.
O
O
You
know
throughout
the
the
presentation
you
you
kind
of
know
who
we
are
through
our
previous
trainings
and
also
conversations
with
you
all,
but
we
are
the
nationalizing
homelessness,
really
focusing
honestly
on
ending
homelessness.
We
do
that
through
research
policy,
training
and
technical
assistance,
as
we're
kind
of
doing
here,
doing
like
some
capacity
building,
really
learning
gleaning
information
from
other
communities,
ensuring
that
best
practices
is
being
Incorporated
again
to
meet
the
needs
of
of
some
of
the
most
vulnerable
in
in
our
community.
O
Again
I'm
Josh,
those
Christy
who
did
the
brief,
intro
and
again
we're
all
we're.
We're
really
excited
to
have
his
time
with
you
all
so
I'm
going
to
start
it
off
with
a
little
bit
of
a
level
set
I
think
I
talked.
O
We
talked
a
lot
about
kind
of
what
a
a
an
effective
homeless
response
system
is
in
our
first
meeting
with
you
all,
but
just
kind
of
go
quickly
over
what
that
looks
like
in
order
to
have
a
an
effective
and
efficient
and
Equitable
homeless
response
system,
we
really
have
to
focus
on
housing
people
as
quickly
as
possible
and
when
and
safe,
when
safe
and
appropriate.
O
Diverting
or
or
preventing
their
homelessness
right
communities
who
have
done
a
really
great
job
of
doing
this
have
really
demonstrated
a
a
a
housing
first
approach,
that's
really
embedded
within
the
system
and
and
quickly
identify
folks
who
are
experiencing
homelessness,
to
move
them
quickly
into
housing
and
then
wrap
them
around
with
what
the
client
driven
services
to
help
them
stabilize.
You
know
this
is
done
when
done
correctly.
You
know
it.
It
effectively
uses
resources
right.
It
lessens
the
potential
for
traumatic
exposure
related
to
homelessness
and
again
it's
it's.
O
It's
been
proven
more
cost
effective
right
than
you
know,
any
of
them
more
long-term
interventions.
That's
been
provided
historically
through
our
throughout
how
we
attempted
to
approach
homelessness.
A
Introduce
some
ideas
for
us
on
the
more
equitable
kind
of
tangible
efforts
we
do
have
black
and
brown
people
who
are
overrepresented
in
our
homeless
population
and
it's
just
notice
for
our
community.
So
I'm
really
curious
for
us
to
hear
about
that.
Also,
if
you
address
that
here
so.
O
All
right
all
right,
Sarah,
yes,
we
so
today
we
won't
go
into
extra
like
detail
as
far
as
like
what
are
some
practical
applications,
but
I
would
love
to
send
you
actually.
O
Just
just
did
a
Blog
yesterday
for
the
alliance
around
like
ways
to
improve
Equity
that
we
can
send
you
resources,
but
we'll,
as
we
continue
to
have
these
conversations
we'll
go
into
a
little
bit
more
of
like
what
are
some
tangible,
practical
implementation
strategy
that
you
all
can
use
to
really
look
at
and
address
inequities,
because
it's
really
not
a
one-size-fits
all
using
best
practices.
O
Housing
first
is
is
an
equitable
approach
right
when
done
when
done
correctly,
but
it's
really
about
giving
you
the
tools
to
really
be
able
to
analysis
analyze.
What's
what's
in
your
system
is
being
is
Equitable
and
what's
not
being
inequitable
or
as
far
as
the
flow,
so
well,
we'll
we'll
definitely
cover
that
in
future.
But
today
is
more
of
a
one-on-one
level
set
just
ensuring
that
we
kind
of
understand
some
of
the
tenets
of
a
core
system
before
kind
of
diving
deepers.
But
that
is
a
really
great
question.
A
Thanks
committee
members
Quincy
did
share
your
blog
in
the
chat.
J
Hey
Josh,
this
is
this:
is
Dustin
mailman
in
the
in
the
group
that
met
with
Christy
to
kind
of
explore
just
the
nature
of
homelessness
in
Asheville,
she
offered
a
perspective
on
housing
first,
that
was
so
different
from
the
way
that
I've
experienced
folks
talking
about
housing
first
in
Asheville,
specifically
in
terms
of
when
I
hear
of
housing.
J
First
I
think
get
people
into
a
house,
no
matter
what,
and
in
my
experience
that's
where
I've
seen
overdoses
happen,
the
most
that's
where
I've
seen
this
kind
of
recidivism
back
into
incarceration
or
homelessness
the
most
when
people
are
just
thrown
into
housing
without
support
systems.
Could
you
say
a
little
bit
more
about
how
housing
first
isn't
just
about
getting
people
into
houses?
Hey.
O
Justin
I
feel
like
I,
feel,
like
you
picked
up
my
Park
when
I'm
actually
going
to
be
talking
about
that
in
two
slides.
Okay,
keeping
it
up.
I
appreciate
that,
but
no
great
point
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
hit
on
that
in
one
second.
So
so
in.
O
Have
for
assistant
to
be
like
have
those
three
E's
right:
they
have
to
have
a
housing
first
approach
and
maintain,
but
has
to
be
maintain.
Fidelity
technology
approach
has
to
and
I'll
talk
about
what
that
means
in
in
a
slide
has
to
have
targeted
homeless
prevention.
For
folks
who
are
at
risk
of
becoming
homeless
and
losing
their
housing,
we
have
to
have
diversion
practices
that
are
are
not
only
practice
community-wide,
but
you
know
it
has
some
type
of
flexibility
that
meets
the
unique
needs
of
folks
experiencing
homes.
O
It
has
to
have
a
cohesive,
Street,
Outreach,
multi-disciplinary
shootout
reach
to
really
go
out
and
meet
the
needs
of
folks
experiencing
on
sheltered
homelessness.
There
has
to
be
access
to
emergency
crisis,
housing
and
crisis
services
and
have
resources
that
quickly,
re-house
folks
as
rapper
housing,
psh,
another
mainstream
housing
options
and
we'll
talk
more
about
kind
of
what
each
of
these
are
in
during
our
time
this
morning,
so
in,
in
short,
ensuring
that
this
is
this
is
happening
effectively
has
to
have
a
court.
O
You
have
to
utilize
coordinated
entry,
it
has
to
have
a
coordinated
approach.
You
have
to
utilize
data
to
make
your
decisions
and-
and
you
also
have
to
use
an
equity
lens
when,
when
making
all
your
decisions,
so
what
does
that?
Look
like
that?
Looks
like
disaggregating
your
data
when,
when
you're
looking
at
what
approaches,
work,
who's,
getting
access
to
what
what
services
who
so
in
in
our
report
and
I'll,
give
you
a
heads
up.
O
I'm,
actually
doing
some
writing
around
like
some
of
the
inequities
that
in
the
system
who
has
access
to
transitional
housing
versus
who
has
access
to
maybe
other
housing
options.
So
that
way
you
you
know
by
looking
at
it
with
an
equitable
lens,
maybe
there's
something
in
our
prioritization
process
that
potentially,
that
is
inequitable
so
like,
for
instance,
we
know
through
research
that
the
reaction
that
tends
to
lean
towards
white
men
right
so
a
lot
of
communities
are
figuring
out.
What
are
they
going
to
do
so?
O
So
we
talked
about
the
elements
of
an
effective
system,
we're
going
to
dive
a
little
bit
deeper
and
what
that
actually
means
and
Dustin
queued
me
up
so
perfectly
I'm,
I'm
gonna
we're
gonna
talk
start
off
with
what
is
a
housing
first
approach?
Can
we
hear
it
used
around
a
lot
and,
and
it's
used
in
a
way
that
I
don't
necessarily
understand?
If
that's,
if
that's
the
right
way,
so
we're
going
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
kind
of
just
just
giving
you
a
basic
one-on-one?
B
B
We
mean
not
now
many
participants
stay
in
housed
in
their
first
rental,
but
evictions
happen
with
the
support
team's
held.
It's
an
opportunity
for
learning,
adjusting
and
the
immediate
chance
to
try
again.
Research
shows
housing.
First
reduces
emergency
room
visits,
hospitalization
shelter,
use,
Detox,
Services
and
incarceration.
There
are
no
common
indicators
of
the
two
housing
first
will
and
won't
work
for
so
given
us
Effectiveness,
let's
focus
on
housing.
First,
then
let
participants
serve
us.
The
next
step.
B
Thank
you
sold
number
two
consumer
choice
and
self-determination.
This
principle
highlights
that
participants
want
and
can
make
productive
change
occur
in
their
lives,
but
in
order
to
thrive,
meaningful
housing
options
are
a
necessity,
and
research
shows
that
a
majority
participants
prefer
independent
Market
housing
throughout
the
city.
Now,
in
order
to
Foster
learning
and
self-determination,
it's
important
that
the
teams
support
most
choices.
Participants
make,
though
the
team
can't
point
out
expectations.
They
should
avoid
overprotected
since
learning
opportunities,
your
choices
have
poor
outcomes.
B
Principle
number
three
recovery
orientation.
People
are
more
likely
to
do
well
and
Achieve
Personal
goals
when
they
have
an
opportunity
to
find
their
own
recovery.
Housing
first
relies
on
supporting
people
as
they
work
as
their
Pace
towards
self-defined
goals,
whether
it's
treatment
returning
to
work
or
reconnecting
with
family.
The
addition
of
care
workers
in
the
support
team
addresses
power
dynamics,
increase
safety
and
also
provoke
participants
and
team
members.
B
B
Principle
number
four
individualized
and
person-driven
supports.
Now
support
is
meant
to
fit
this
participant,
not
the
other
way
around
people
are
at
the
center
of
housing.
First,
therefore,
the
support
team
provides
Target
team
members
approach
and
tools
that
help
each
individual
with
their
goals,
whether
that's
grocery
shopping,
working,
adopting
a
pets,
finances
therapy
or
engagement
communities
by
replacing
complicated
calls
with
flexible
models
and
accounting
philosophy.
The
Teen
Health
participants
reduce
long-standing
systemic
barriers,
thereby
improving
self-determination,
choice
and
quality
of
life.
B
The
housing
first
team
can
help
participants
fill
Community
connections
based
on
their
specific
beliefs
and
interests.
The
team
also
Fosters
Community
Development
by
providing
landlords
and
community
members
with
education
on
housing.
First
inclusion
and
mythbusting
negative
stereotypes
and
though
supporting
social
and
Community
integration
may
take
time.
It
can
go
a
long
way
in
helping
participants,
establish
relationships
and
support
networks
within
new
communities.
B
O
O
It
has
to
really
be
intentional,
has
to
be
client
driven,
but
we
have
to
understand
that
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
you
all
have
been
to
like
some
type
of
psychology,
one-on-one
type
classes,
where
you
talk
about
Maslow's
hierarchy
of
need
and
where
your
basic
needs
have
to
be
met
in
order
to
go
to
like
the
climb,
the
runs
of
like
actually
self-actualizing
and
making
these
life-changing
changes
and
housing
first
really
recognizes.
O
Is
that
right,
when
somebody's
experiencing
unsheltered
homelessness,
right
and
they're,
trying
to
figure
out
they're
in
that
fight
fighter,
freeze
mode
they're,
trying
to
figure
out
whether
to
eat
where
they're
gonna
sleep
they,
they
might
have
some
mental
health
issues
they
might.
They
might
have
some
addiction
issue,
but
if
you're
struggling
to
figure
out
where
you're
going
to
sleep
and
eat
those
aren't
the
times
that
make
those
life-changing
decisions
or
or
choices.
O
O
It's,
not
just
one
program
right:
it's
not
just
permit
support
of
housing,
even
though
the
origins
of
housing
first
right
stems
from
the
early
early
90s
when,
when
there
are
folks
who
had
severe
aod
issues,
who
will
severe
mental
health
issues
who
continuously
being
on
shelter
going
into
jail
going
into
the
hospital
and
that
cycle,
and
they
couldn't
figure
out
what
to
do
right
so
like
this
problem
of
we
have
all
these
folks
experiencing
on
sheltered
homelessness.
O
Criminalization
is
not
working
forcing
him
into
the
hospital's,
not
working,
so
an
organization
called
Pathways
in
in
New
York.
They
said
what
about
giving
them
housing
and
then
wrapping
wrapping
them
around
all
the
services
and
then
that's
the
Genesis
of
housing.
First,
even
though
that's
the
Genesis,
it's
housing
first,
through
evidence,
data
analysis
has
grown
into
a
philosophy
of
of
of
many
different
types
of
home
housing
interventions
right.
It's
really
about
not
creating
barriers
to
those
housing,
housing
interventions.
It's
also
it's
not
a
one-size-fits
all
as
in
in
the
video.
O
It's
not
a
cookie
cutter,
it
has
to
be.
It
has
to
be
adapted
because
the
individuals
who
are
who
are
in
our
system
or
have
so
many
different
layers
and
so
much
Nuance
to
them
that
they
have
to
have
some
flexibility
in
our
in
our
in
our
system
delivery.
Also
in
ensuring
that
there's
client
choice,
because
we
know
that,
unfortunately,
you
can't
force
anybody
to
do
anything,
and
that
doesn't
mean
like
real
the
consequence
of
of
choices,
though
aren't
real.
But
what
I'm
saying
we?
O
We
can't
force
people
to
do
anything
because
that's
not
how
change
happens
right.
It's
not
housing!
Only
as
Dustin
Dustin
was
mentioning
a
lot
of
communities,
unfortunately,
especially
early
on
when
the
housing
first
really
was
adapted,
that
they
were
just
literally
putting
people
in
a
place
and
saying.
Well,
you
got
housing.
Good
luck,
housing!
Really!
O
It
needs
to
be
housing
at
the
as
the
first
step,
but
there
has
to
be
a
very
comprehensive
wrapping
around
support
services
that
that
allows
for
people
to
stay
in
housing
and
ensure
that
they
have
what
they
need
and
that's
not
that's,
not
just
giving
people
a
phone
number.
That's
making
a
warm
handoff.
That's
ensuring
folks
have
everything
they
need
to
get
into
that
housing.
You
stay
in
the
housing
Furniture
in
terms
of
you
utility
utility.
They
have
Community
connections,
they
have
they
have.
O
They
have
the
phone
numbers
a
call,
and
it's
not
setting
people
up
for
failure
right,
because
we're
really
trying
to
provide
that
those
those
wraparound
services
for
the
stability
and
then
and
then
it's
not
a
way
of
prioritizing
one
one
group
over
the
other
and
it
can
meet
the
needs
of
all
folks
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
in
your
community.
O
Another
aspect,
I
talked
about
into
an
effective
system,
is
homeless
prevention,
where
you're
you're
really
targeting
dollars
to
folks
who
are
losing
their
housing
and
who
are
at
risk
of
experiencing
homelessness.
O
So
it's
not
like
this
everybody's
experiencing
almost
over
God
existence,
we're
trying
to
Target
it
to
folks
who
are
most
vulnerable
of
experiencing
homelessness
to
to
Really
impact
the
flow
into
homelessness.
O
So
a
lot
of
times
folks
get
eviction,
prevention,
homeless,
prevention,
confused
right,
you
might
see
home
eviction
prevention
specifically
with,
like
the
cares
act
era.
Funding
communities
were
really
targeted
to
low-income
folks
just
to
anybody
who's
falling
behind
that
the
negative
eviction
prevention,
the
difference
is
homeless.
Prevention
is
targeted
to
folks
who
are
most
are
most
vulnerable
and
usually
funded.
You
know
either
through
the
homeless
system
or
mainstream.
O
You
know
feeder
system
funds
and
then
that's
different
and
it
has
a
medium
impact
on
the
homeless
system
outside
in
relation
to
Diversion,
which
is
a
really
high
and
I'm
going
to
talk
about
that
next,
but
homeless
prevention
is
the
Upstream
intervention
that
is
provided
to
folks,
who
are
it's
still
currently
in
some
type
of
Housing
and
but
they're
they're
they're
at
risk
of
losing
it
and
they're
vulnerable
becoming
homeless
once
they
lose.
It.
A
That
is
it.
Can
you
go
back
to
that?
Just
want
to
take
a
picture
of
it
for
myself.
This
is
a
this
is
excellent,
so
you
can
see
the
impacts
areas
high
medium
low
educational.
Thank
you.
O
And
I
believe
you
should
have
these
slides
on
on
the
website.
Is
that
correct,
Emily.
O
All
right,
so
just
really
quick.
What
is
that?
How
does
that
play
until
we
know
this
has
like
a
medium
impact
on
it?
But
what
is
what
is
it
really?
How
does
it
impact
the
system?
It
decreases
folks
experiencing
homelessness
for
the
first
time
it
sorry,
it
allows
for
our
communities
to
really
utilize,
like
National,
Data
and
local
data,
to
identify
who's
really
at
greatest
risk
of
becoming
homelessness.
O
What
are
some
of
those
trends
like
we
know
like
nationally,
like
folks,
who've
experienced
homelessness
before
are
a
greater
risk
of
experiencing
homelessness
if
they
lose
their
housing
and
then
also
it
plays
a
crucial
piece
right,
because
we
know
we
know
through
every
conversation,
Christian
I
have
we
affordable.
Housing
has
been
a
crucial
piece.
We
know
it's,
not
there's
not
enough.
F
F
Just
wanted
to
add
to
that,
yes,
post
housing
and
you
know
keeping
keeping
people
housed.
Even
those
who
I
would
say,
have
money,
pay
their
rent
still
run
into
issues
and
Snappers.
F
As
far
as
having
agency
that
does
moderation
and
mediation
with
what
is
tenant
advocacy
is
dealing
with.
How
would
you
say
this
dealing
with
landlords
and
at
least
that
you
know
star?
What
is
this
credit
history
with?
F
You
can't
do
this
yeah,
so
these
are
like
things
that
are
really
impacting
people
who
you
know
can
now
not
get
homes
or
houses
or
rent.
Because
of
you
know,
and
nobody
knows
how
to
get
to
these
people
because
they're
like
well.
How
do
I
have
I?
Don't
have
time
I
can't
take
off
work,
but
it
in
the
interim
of
not
having
to
impact
them
later
to
where
they're
trying
to
rent
something
and
they
can't
because
oh
well
in
blah
blah.
F
O
I
think
you,
you
highlighted
a
really
great
point
and
and
I
was
as
I
was
talking
about
the
funding
aspect
of
it
as
well.
There
has
to
be
the
the
landlord
landlord
engagement
like
through
mediation
mediation
through,
like
even
if
you're
staying
with
family
friends,
so
they
might
be
that
Homeless
prevention,
there's
it's
more
than
just
funding.
That's
I
appreciate
you
bringing
it
up.
It
takes
it's.
F
F
You
know
as
a
board
where
people
can't
come
to
me
and
go
Elvia
like
toilet's
falling
into
the
floor
and
I'm
afraid
to
complain
because
I'll
get
kicked
out
right,
and
so,
when
we
can't
mediate
in
this
this
this
fashion,
then
this
all
stays
the
same
yeah
so
I've
been
trying
to
get
this
started,
but
covet
happened,
and
so
here
we
are.
O
I
appreciate
that
yeah,
that's
a
really
great
Point,
all
right,
so
just
quickly
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
role
of
diversion
which
is
similar
to
like
it's
before
someone
enters
the
homeless
system.
It's
an
intervention
that
it
is
designed
to
immediately
address
the
needs
of
someone
who
just
lost
their
housing
or
just
or
just
had
to
leave
a
place.
They
were
staying
at
and
they're
and
they're
literally
becoming
homeless
and
they're.
O
Looking
for
shelter,
they're
looking
for
some
type
of
programming
or
wrapper
rehousing,
whatever
this,
whatever
the
case
may
be
they're
trying
to
access
the
homeless
system,
so
diversion
needs
to
be
there.
It
has
to
be
client
driven.
It
has
to
really
focus
on
finding
the
individual
or
or
the
household
a
a
safe
housing
option
or-
and
it
could
be
by
providing
some
type
of
resource,
it
could
be
helping
them
relocate
to
somebody
it's
a
family
of
friends.
O
It
could
be
mediating
with
family
or
friends
or
even
maybe,
potentially
a
landlord,
but
really
just
identify.
What
is
the
safe
alternative
option
for
them
outside
of
going
into
the
system?
O
It's
really
designed
to
ensure
that
that
folks,
who
who
could
be
diverted,
are
right
so
they're
not
entering
the
homeless
system,
but
it's
their
experience
is
grief
right,
it
tries
it
prevents
folks,
hopefully
prevents
folks
from
being
unsheltered
and
it
really
averts
folks
from
staying
in
shelter
as
we
know
that
could
be
traumatic.
There
could
be.
O
You
know
all
all
you
know,
there's
there's
impacts
of
there's,
there's
long-term
impacts
potentially
of
what's
becoming
homeless,
and
we
diversion
really
helps
with
becoming
an
option
to
help
folks
really
figure
out
what
is
their
best
option?
It's
not
a
game
of
keep
away.
I
always
try
to
say
that
when
I
say
to
bring
up
the
version,
we're
not
trying
to
keep
resources,
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
is
the
the
best
best
way
to
to
solve
your
housing
crisis
and
is
it
coming
into
the
homeless
system?
O
So
the
role
of
the
homeless
is
the
role
of
diversion
within
the
homeless
system
really
reduces
entry
into
sorry
reduces
entry
into
the
homeless
system
improves
the
flow.
We
talk
about
the
flow
that
very
first
time
of
of
ensuring
folks
who
can
find
some
alternative
to
go
there
is
that
conversation
happening
there?
Is
that
flexible
funding
that
that
is
there?
O
It
really
should
ensures
that
folks,
who
are
using
the
resources
in
the
homeless
system
are
the
folks
who
have
absolutely
no
other
place
to
go.
It
cuts
down
a
shelter,
wait
list,
it's
less
costly
than
shelter,
and
it
really
again,
as
I
said
in
the
last
night,
it
it
avoids
the
traumatic
experience
of
homelessness.
It
it,
the
physical
health,
the
mental
health
factors
that
that
homelessness
can
play
play
play
in
on
individuals
life,
so
it
really.
O
But
it's
the
trick
is
also
ensuring
that
a
diversion
is
happening
at
the
proper
place.
Right
diversion
should
be
happening
at
the
very
front
door
that
first
access
point
into
the
system.
So,
as
you
see,
this
is
like
a
representative
of
homeless
system,
someone
who
was
experiencing
homelessness,
they're
calling
maybe
another
again.
This
is
I'm,
not
talking
Asheville
specific
but
like
in
some
communities.
They
call
the
number
and
diversion
happens.
They
go
to.
They
go
to
a
shelter
diversion
happens.
O
They,
whatever
the
access
points
to
how
you
enter
the
system,
is
where
diversion
should
be
happening
and
also
where
targeted
prevention
should
be
happening
right
and
then
that's
when
you
face
off
of
that
diversion
everyone
in
the
system
should
have
some
type
of
diversion
conversation
and
then
that's,
then
they
start
entering
into
the
system.
Because
now
we've
explored
all
other
options:
we've
maybe
talk
to
family
friends.
We
really
understand
what
the
situation
is
and
and
then
now
we
understand
that
they
have
no
absolutely
other
place
to
go.
O
We
they
need
the
homeless
system
in
order
to
stabilize
their
housing
crisis,
and
then
we
start
be
going
through
with
like
the
assessments
or
maybe
shelter
placement
and
then
the
rapper
housing
or
other
transitional
housing
or
whatever
options,
housing
options.
We
have
to
help
them
eventually
get
housing,
but
at
the
very
front
door
it
should
be
diversion
and
that
targeted
prevention
and
it
should
be
in
in
communities
who
are
doing
it.
Well,
they
have
to
have
a
uniform
Approach
at
every
access
point,
just
so
that
there's
the
same
conversation
happening.
N
Ready
I'm
just
going
to
do
a
quick
time
check.
We
have
about
10
minutes
for
this
presentation,
just
to
kind
of
lay
out
if
you
haven't
already
looked
at
it.
What
Our
intention
was
is
to
tell
you
to
just
do
this
brief
overview
for
the
the
core
components
of
the
crisis,
part
of
the
system,
so
not
the
permanent
housing.
So
in
this
conversation
we
were
going
to
also
share
a
little
bit
about
what
the
role
and
the
impact
of
Street
Outreach
the
role
and
impact
of
emergency
shelter,
transition
and
transitional
housing.
N
Then
in
our
I
guess
it
would
be
your
September
Hayek
meeting.
We
were
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
permanent
housing
options.
The
permanent
housing
part
of
the
system,
but
I
want
to
I
want
to
check
in
with
you.
First,
we
have
10
minutes,
so
I
can
briefly
go
through
these
three
components
and
then
wrap
up.
N
We
do
want
to
talk
to
you
about
next
steps
with
regards
to
the
needs
assessment,
or
we
can
pause
now
see
if
you
have
any
questions
about
what
Josh
has
covered,
which
might
take
us
up
until
9
50.,
and
then
we
can
always
adjust
and
revisit
the
other
crisis
components
in
a
future
hyac
meeting.
So
I
just
want
to
check
in
with
you
all
as
to
whether
or
not
you
want
us
to
keep
going
or
you
want
to
stop
now
and
have
some
questions.
A
I,
don't
have
a
preference,
but
I
do
have
a
question
about
the
VIS,
but
that
if
this
isn't
a
perfect
time
to
ask
yeah
go
ahead
soon.
Emily
had
educated
us
last
year
about
the
challenges
of
the
bi
spit
out,
but
there
was
no
real
replacement
yet
so
I'm
just
curious
with
our
experts.
A
Your
take
on
the
bi
sedan.
If
there's
been
any
discussion
about
a
replacement
tool
for
that
yeah.
N
Great
question
Sarah
right
now
that
question
is
happening,
is
being
asked
across
communities
all
over
the
country
and
the
alliance
is
working
on
putting
some
guidance
and
considerations
out
and
it
the
the
the
the
the
tension
about
assessment
tools
and
Josh
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
about
what
assessment
tools
to
use
to
replace
the
bi
spinach
or
align
the
VI
for
that
with
best
practices
is
around.
So,
for
example,
within
conversations
with
the
alliance,
we
have
a.
N
We
have
a
research
Council
that
is
made
up
of
researchers
and
there
is
a
real,
strong
desire
for
can,
from
their
perspective,
for
communities
to
use
assessment
tools
that
are
validated
like
scientifically
validated
tools,
and
so
because
there
are
over
400
continuums
of
care
in
the
country
validating
a
having
everyone.
N
So
let
me
let
me
stop
there
having
a
validated
tool.
At
the
same
time,
communities
are
working
to
make
their
assessment
tools
specific
and
not
specific
to
the
needs
of
their
community
and
and
engaging
in
a
in
a
very
transport,
transparent,
community-wide
process
that
creates
buy-in
for
the
tool
and
addresses
whatever
those
unique
needs
on
their
community.
N
So
you
can
imagine,
then,
a
continuums
of
care
all
coming
up
with
their
own
version
of
assessment
tools,
which
would
not
be
validated
or
the
cost
and
the
the
what
it
would
take
to
get
those
tools
validated
is
a
is
a
pretty
heavy
lift,
and
so
there's
like
there's
actually
debate
right
now
in
like
a
conversation
about
how
communities
should
go,
go
move
forward
in
terms
of
putting
their
assessment
tools,
and
it
may
be
that
there
are
maybe
a
handful
of
validated
tools
that
are
offered
as
options
for
Community
use.
N
That's
been
some
one
thing
that's
been
batted
around
like.
Is
that
what
not
the
alliance
and
other
national
leaders
and
those
folks
who
are
researchers,
Community,
Advocates
providers,
people
lived
experiences?
We
come
together
to
like
figure
out
what
tools
to
use
is
that
something
that
the
the
overall
field
is
going
to
offer
up
like
a
a
maybe
a
suite
of
options
of
validated
tools?
N
It's
honestly,
it's
it
has
not
really
been
determined.
Yet
what
that's
going
to
be-
and
in
fact
communities
are
moving
forward
and
creating
their
own
tools,
some
of
them
better
than
others,
but
again
we're
not
we're
actually
not
sure
yet
of
their
effectiveness
and
really
not
sure
how
we're
going
to
measure
those.
N
So
it's
it's
a
it's
a
very
like
critical
time
like
we
are
in
literally
in
the
midst
of
of
figuring
that
out
so
I
don't
have
a
hard
answer
for
you
other
than
to
say
that
the
alliance
is
going
to
be
putting
out
some
guidance
about
how
communities
should
approach
the
conversation.
N
While
there
is
kind
of
a
vacuum
of
of
actual
tools-
and
there
are
a
couple-
there
are
like-
maybe
two
communities
that
have
put
out
validated
tools,
but
they
really
require
like
agreement
among
like
when
I
mean
agreement.
I
mean
like
shared
data
like
shared
administrative
data
among
multiple
systems
like
Corrections,
health
and
Hospital
mental
health,
and
so
you
can
imagine
how
long
it
took
to
get
those
agreements
in
place
to
to
use
administrative
data.
P
Thank
you
for
unless
I
missed
something
for
those
who
are
curious
about
what
I
spit
at
just
confirming
that
that's
a
vulnerability
index
service,
prioritization
decision
assistance,
tool
and
in
case
that
would
be
a
benefit
to
the
public,
but
also
it
provided
curiosity
to
me
about
whether
or
not
we
use
that
tool
currently
and
that
would
probably
lead
to
how
effective
it
is.
N
My
you
see
my
basement
when
my
office
looks
like
hate
Google
meets
sometimes
anyway,
so
I'm,
sorry,
councilman
Rooney,
your
question
just
so
I
I
was
trying
to
fix
my
camera.
Emily
told
me
that
my
camera
was
off.
You
asked
one.
Are
you
using
the
vs
for
that
in
the
community?
Was
that
was
that
the
question
of
trying
to.
P
N
That
is
what
it's
called
I'll
put
a
link.
I
I
put
an
explanation
of
it
in
the
in
the
chat
without
spelling
out
the
acronym,
but
that
is
what
it
means,
and
we
can
send
you
a
link.
It
was
developed
by
org
code
and
was
a
just
for
a
little
bit
of
context
on
the
tool.
The
tool
as
Josh
mentioned
is
is
was
not
when
it
was
created.
N
It
did
not
was
not
created
with
a
lens
of
racial
equity,
and
so,
as
we
have
learned
that
that
is
something
that
really
needs
to
be
corrected,
and
so
that
that's
why
why
we
want
to
do
that
in
addition
to
other
things
like
it
doesn't,
as
we've
learned,
what
coordinate
entry
has
become
the
lessons
learned
from
it.
N
The
unintended
consequences
and
kind
of
perverse
incentives
that
coordinate
entry
can
sometimes
create
the
assessment
tool
is
a
big
part
of
that,
not
not
that
the
tool
itself,
the
vi
spit
out
of
particular
necessarily
does
that,
but
but
the
tool
used
in
conjunction
with
the
other
ways
that
coordinated
entry
is
implemented
can
can
leave
for
some
negative
outcomes.
So
many
communities
in
the
country
use
the
bi
spadat
because
it
emerges
one
of
the
tools,
not
everybody.
N
Community
uses
it,
but
communities
were
really
looking
for
a
silver
bullet
honestly
to
like
do
this
assessment,
these
assessments
assessing
so
many
people,
which
is
also
not
its
intended
purpose,
and
so
what
the
tool
also
does
is.
N
It
gives
a
kind
of
recommendation
based
on
a
score
of
vulnerability
and
by
vulnerability
as
I
put
in
the
chat
like
how
close
is
this
person
to
dying
on
the
street
and
it
tried
to
match
in
a
very
simple
way,
the
types
of
resources
that
might
be
a
good
match
for
that
score,
that
vulnerability
score,
and
so
it
might,
if
you
scored
a
certain
number,
it
would
say
like
refer
you
to
maybe
just
homelessness
prevention
or
maybe
Rapid,
rehousing
or
permanent
Supportive
Housing.
N
Well,
what
community
started
doing
with
the
tool
which
was
not
meant
to
do?
Is
they
started
blurring
assessment?
The
use
of
the
tool
with
prioritization-
and
it
was
kind
of
like
oh
I,
got
a
score
of
14
or
I,
don't
know
whatever
the
score
is,
and
it's
like.
Oh,
you
go
to
permanent
Supportive
Housing
and,
like
everybody,
just
started
getting
bucketed
into
these
choose
for
a
service.
N
So
that's
another
reason
we
want
to
get
away
because
that
was
never
what
it
was
meant
to
do
so,
like
lots
of
reasons
to
get
away
from
the
assessment
or
or
to
align
the
assessment
with
what
its
intended
purpose
was
and
to
address
the
disparities
that
it
can
cause
in
some
other
things.
So
just
a
little
bit
of
context.
Thank.
O
Yeah
and
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
just
for
raising
up
spelling
it
out,
because
I
think
we
all
use
a
lot
of
the
homeless
system.
Jargon
so
appreciate
you
doing
that
and
then
also
I
know
that
communities
have
started
just
interrogating.
You
know,
potentially
what
parts
of
the
the
Vise
for
that.
Maybe
the
questions
have
disparate
impact
right
really
like
like
looking
at
like
look
because
not
every
question
on
the
priorities
on
the
on
the
tool.
O
K
Thanks
Josh,
my
question
was
actually
what
you
just
said:
you
know
what
or
is
there
any
research
at
this
point
of
you
know,
which
particular
questions
in
the
assessment
tool
are,
are
resulting
in
racially
biased
results,
and
is
there
any
documentation
on
that
or
is
there
anybody
who's
done
that
in
a
good
way
that
we
could
we
can
emulate?
Maybe
we're
already
doing
it
and
I.
Don't
know
that
Emily.
But
that's
that's
the
question
that
I
have
and
I
would
say
that
we
did.
K
You
know
I
mean,
as
the
tool
was
presented
to
us
in
the
session
by
the
creator
of
the
tool
we
were
advised
to.
You
know
how's
the
next,
the
person
with
the
highest
score
in
the
next
available
intervention,
and
so
we
did
so
I.
Don't
I,
don't
know
that
I
think
there
was
a
very
strong
indication
in
that
training
that
we
should
not
look
to
anything
else.
K
D
O
What
I
can
do
is
put
the
research
in
the
chat
in
regards
to
the
overall,
the
C4
Innovation,
the
the
analysis
and
I'll
put
that
in
the
chat,
but
also
I
know
what
communities
did,
because
because
of
what
you're
saying
on
every
question
has
a
disparate
impact
and
with
the
goal
of
creating
something.
That's
you
know
something
that
doesn't
have
that
disproportionality
I'm,
sorry,
a
different
impact,
they
they
started
off
with
the
assessment.
O
You
know
this
is
just
me
talking
about
what
communities
have
done,
not
recognizing
this
as
a
best
practice
and
they
act.
They
looked
at
their
own
local
data
based
off
the
questions
and
kind
of
just
looked
at
what
my
question
my
question
as
a
goal
of
trying
to
create
something
that
was
more
Equitable
budget,
but
not
kind
of
like
starting
from
scratch.
O
Because
with
that,
what
you're
saying
not
every
question
has
has
that
that
impact
so
I'll
put
that
in
the
chat,
the
the
research
and
then
the
other
question
is
more
about
more
locally.
You
all
looking
at
that
and
I
can't
I
can't
speak
to
that
at
all.
N
Where,
like
you,
you
maybe
are
not
prior
you're
prioritizing
those
who
are
most
vulnerable,
but
you
might
be
doing
them
in
like
a
cohort
of
group.
So,
instead
of
like
you,
have
the
next
Housing
Resource
and
here's
the
person
who's
in
the
queue
and
is
like
the
next
vulnerable
person
would
be
the
next
person
to
be
referred
to
that
opening.
N
It
may
be
that
you're
prioritizing
a
cohort
of
folks,
so
there
might
be
like
five
to
say
five
people
given
the
size
of
your
system
in
that
queue
that
have
similar
scores
or
very
close,
very
close,
so
I
want
to
say
scores
plus
other
assessment
factors,
because
it
should
never
just
be
the
score.
N
The
community
needs
to
come
up
with
some
other
assessment
factors
that
make
sense
based
on
their
data
and
the
needs
of
the
community,
and
it
may
be
that
you
have
one
two
openings
and
five
you're
you're,
looking
at
like
a
cohort
of
group
or
like
those
five
people
and
the
third
person
on
that
list
of
five
is
housing
is,
is
document
ready,
could
like
literally
go
into
that
unit,
because
they've
got
their
ID.
N
They've
got
all
the
paperwork
that
needs
to
be
done,
and
it
won't
take
like
two
weeks
to
get
them
and
you
won't
have
a
vacant
unit
for
a
couple
of
weeks,
so
that
person
might
actually
jump
that
other
person
in
the
queue.
All
of
that
is
okay,
so
long
as
the
community
agrees
on
those
policies
and
protocols
and
understands
how
you
got
there.
N
So
I
think
getting
away
from
like
the
very
next
person
on
the
list,
maybe
something
you
that
you
do
not
need
to
be
wed
to,
but
it's
still
serving
the
need
that
you
have
not
to
mention
addressing
some
of
the
needs
that
you
as
a
community
have,
when
you
have
other
folks
who
are
like,
maybe
even
like
in
the
middle
of
your
coordinated
entry
queue
right
and
because
of
the
lack
of
available
units
in
in
in
a
pipeline
kind
of
timely
way.
N
You've
got
a
bunch
of
like
people
whose
Acuity
levels
are
not
super
high,
but
they're
just
churning
in
the
middle,
not
to
mention
those
who
are
at
the
very
bottom
right
who,
like
never
might
never
get
anything
like.
There
are
ways
to
address
various
ways
to
serve
different,
acuities
and
vulnerabilities
within
the
system
that
a
Dr
that
creates
more
flow
through
the
system,
and
so
again
those
just
need
to
be
very
transparent.
N
Community-Wide
conversations,
you
know
things
that,
ultimately,
you
all
as
a
governance
board
are
going
to
need
to
consider
and
vote
on
actually
in
terms
of
changing
some
of
that
policy.
So
it's
important
for
you
to
have
some
knowledge
of
that,
but.
A
Q
Like
when
are
we
ever
going
to
get
this
down?
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
context
around
some
of
this
discussion
for
folks
who
don't
know
so,
coordinated
entry
in
our
community
began
in
the
fall
of
2014,
and
certainly
what
David
said
is
exactly
right.
Our
understanding
at
the
time
was
that
we,
the
the
tool
that
we
were
given
to
use,
was
the
vi
spadat,
and
our
understanding
was
that
we
based
prioritization
on
the
bi
score.
Q
In
addition
to
length
of
time
homeless,
I
will
say
that,
yeah,
probably
four
years
ago,
three
or
four
years
ago,
we
as
there
started
to
be
some
discussion
about
disparities
in
bi
scoring
and
and
like
racial
Equity
impacts
associated
with
that
we
did
look
at
our
data
and
we
switched
our
prioritization
to
focusing
on
length
of
time
homeless
as
our
top
top
priority,
followed
by
the
vi
score,
and
what
we
found
in
that
is
that
the
outcomes
were
really
different
and
the
housing
outcomes
for
folks
through
our
coordinated
entry
process.
Q
The
the
race
composition
of
folks
who
were
housed
through
coordinated
entry,
started
to
mirror
the
composition
of
our
homeless
population
based
on
our
point
in
time
data.
So
that
is
that
has
been
a
positive
shift
for
us
in
terms
of
equity
in
the
last
few
years
and
then
the
other
thing
I'll
say
is
that
we
but
I
think
it's
been
really
tough
in
our
community
and
I.
Q
Think
for
a
lot
of
communities
across
the
country,
because
we
we
had
this
kind
of
widely
adopted
tool
and
then
and
then
certainly
have
like
wide
spread
acknowledgment
that
there
were
problems
with
that
tool,
but
without
a
lot
of
resources
around
what
to
replace
it
with
or
what
kind
of
process
to
walk
through
and
that's
that's
the
work
that
the
alliance
is
doing
right
now
is
trying
to
provide
a
framework
and
some
resources
for
communities
to
use
in
doing
that.
Q
But
it's
been
tough
for
us,
I
think
at
the
local
level
to
you
know,
we
can't
just
switch
to
a
new
tool
because
that
new
tool
doesn't
exist
and
we
are
bound
to
have
we're
required
to
use
an
assessment
through
that
process.
So
we
will
talk
about
this
more
in
the
work
group
update
on
coordinated
entry,
but
we
are
working
through
some
of
this
right
now,
but
just
wanted
to
to
provide
that
historical
context.
Q
F
No
problem
I
just
kind
of
want
to
piggyback
on
David's
David's
question
as
far
as
the
data
that's
being
collected
and
who
has
about
their
validation
tools
up
and
running
in
the
in
the
notes
that
are
going
to
be
sent.
Because
any
of
that
there
Josh
I
mean
what
cities
have
their
data
up
and
running.
And
for
how
long
and
what
criteria
they
are
using
to
collect
data.
O
I
think
that's
so
that's
still
kind
of
on
the
where,
where
our
internal
research
team
is
at,
is
kind
of
like
really
analyzing,
all
the
different
communities
who
have
done
it
like
I
can
say,
like
Austin
has
developed
their
own
and
they
have
like
a
they're
like
Austin
Echo.
They
have
a
process
on
their
website.
O
O
There's
communities
who
have
done
some
things
and
they'll
share
that
they'll
they're
willing
to
share
I,
think
I
think
Chicago
has
done
creating
their
own,
but
they
they're
they're,
not
sharing
their
tool.
For
that,
for
the
reason
of
they
feel
like
every
Community
should
develop
their
own
based
off
their
own
unique
needs,
but
Austin
actually
will
share
like
the
process
of
how
they
want
to
develop
it.
It
wasn't
and
it
wasn't
easy
it
wasn't
easy
process
at
all,
but
they
will
but
they're
more
than
willing
to
share
one
with
that.
A
Thank
you,
everyone
for
your
comments
to
see
we're.
We
are
at
Penn
yeah.
N
That's
okay
with
it,
the
recipe
are
just
the
what's
next,
what's
next,
okay,
great,
so
just
want
to.
Let
you
all
know
that
we're
in
town
last
week
it
was
great
to
see
some
of
you
and
we
wrapped
up
our
focus
groups
and
which
were
very
insightful
and
productive,
and
just
really
grateful
for
everybody's
time
and
insights.
N
Those
focus
groups
raised
we
also
by
the
way
I'll.
Let
you
know
that
we
met
with
Dogwood
Health
Trust
and
had
a
great
conversation
with
their
CEO
and
their
staff,
and
with
that
conversation,
and
with
other
conversations
from
focus
groups
and
other
interviews
we
have
had,
we
realized
we
there.
N
We
need
to
spend
a
little
bit
more
time,
talking
to
County
staff
of
programs
through
the
county
and
so
we're
working
with
Jen,
Teague
and
Rachel
Nygaard
to
set
up
on
some
additional
meetings
over
the
next
couple
weeks
with
those
programs
and
entities
that
touch
upon
in
some
way,
indirectly
or
directly,
through
funding
or
supporting
Service
delivery
for
folks
engaging
in
homelessness.
N
So
we
just
need
to
get
a
little
bit
better
understanding
of
that,
and
so,
in
addition,
the
one
of
the
assistant
County
managers
asked
if
we
could
keep
our
community-wide
survey
open
a
couple
more
weeks,
so
I
think.
As
you
know,
we
have
a
community-wide
survey.
They
just
felt
like
Jen
correct
me
if
I
bought
it
just
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
push
that
out
throughout
the
county
would
be
helpful
and
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that,
as
of
today,
we
have
1740
responses
to
that
community-wide
survey
on
homelessness.
N
N
So
we
will
have
about
130
interview
surveys
of
people
who
are
currently
experiencing
homelessness
in
your
community
majority
of
them
on
people
experiencing
unsheltered,
homelessness
and
or
folks,
a
smaller
minority
of
folks
who
just
were
recently
housed,
and
we
think
that
that's
a
great
response,
especially
as
I
shared
last
week,
with
not
having
as
much
qualitative
data,
I'm,
sorry,
quantitative
data.
So
just
a
shout
out
to
Eric
Hall
and
pit
Flickinger
for
helping
us
conduct.
N
Those
interviews
was
really
really
helpful
for
the
Frontline
service
provider
response
as
a
staff
of
homeless
service
providers.
Actually,
the
survey
response
has
been
kind
of
low
32.
N
and
then
last
system
leadership
and
that
being
like
executive
leadership,
senior
leadership
of
both
public
and
private
entities
that
support
homeless
programs
is
at
about
70..
So
we're
pretty
happy
with
that.
So
just
FYI
on
where
we're
at
in
sort
of
wrapping
up
the
focus
groups,
the
surveying
and
just
some
additional
conversations
with
County
staff,
all
that
to
say
those
keeping
the
survey
open
the
additional
com,
conversations
with
County
staff
and
some
data
that
we're
still
working
with
to
get
to
Emily.
N
We
we're
coming
to
you
to
say
that
it
may
be
that
we
need
to
push
the
needs
assessment
report
presentation
back
like
two
to
three
weeks
in
order
to
to
get
get
you
appropriately.
What
you
need.
G
N
Just
wanted
to
kind
of
put
that
out
there
see
if
there
are
any
concerns
about
that
I
know.
You
wish
you
had
this
yesterday,
but
just
want
to
be
upfront
about
kind
of
like
what
what
we
might
need
in
terms
of
pushing
that
forward
and
I
believe
also
on
Emily.
If
you
want
to
share
about
this,
but
I
think
there's
also
some
conversations
going
on
with
the
city
and
county
about
how
we
want
to
roll
the
needs
assessment
out
present
it
publicly.
N
N
I
think
those
are
the
most
important
updates
that
I
just
wanted
to
to
give
you
all
and
see.
If
you
have
any
questions.
A
A
A
No
okay!
Well!
Thank
you
so
much
Christine
Josh
and
everyone
participating
in
the
conversation,
very
educational.
Our
next
agenda
item
staff
updates
from
Emily.
Q
Just
one
very
small
update
for
me,
which
is
that
just
a
reminder
that
we
do
have
those
three
positions
posted
for
our
division:
rounding
out
our
staff
capacity
to
be
able
to
support
implementation
of
all
this
work
that
we've
been
talking
about
over
the
coming
years,
the
the
postings
have
just
been
extended
to
September
6th,
and
so
those
are
still
alive,
really
hoping
to
get
a
wide
applicant
pool
for
those.
So
would
love
your
help
in
disseminating
those
through
your
networks.
That's
it
for
me.
A
Thank
you
Emily
this
group,
particularly
today
how
we've
tried
to
work
closely
with
City
staff,
and
this
is
a
really
great
opportunity
to
get
students
amazing
folks,
in
those
positions
all
right,
I'd
like
to
hear
an
update
on
work
groups.
I'll
turn
it
over
to
the
nominating
committee
Jim.
If
you
could
give
us
an
update
on
the
nominating
committee.
M
Yeah
and
Emily
feel
free
to
correct
me
if
my
numbers
are
off
I
believe
we
have
one
open,
City
seat
left
for
appointments,
and
we
currently
have
two
county
seats
available
for
appointment.
M
We
are
looking
for
individual
lived
experience
for
one
of
those
seats
and
also
from
the
medical
community,
we're
hoping
to
kind
of
move
to
like
a
sector-based
system.
It's
not
definitive,
but
we
do
want
to
try
to
have
representation.
That
is
in
alignment
with
the
application
recommendations,
so
we
are
still
seeking
applications
from
community
members
who
are
interested
in
applying
and
then
also
for
this
committee.
We
are
also
looking
for
additional
members
to
join
our
nominating
work
group.
So
if
you
are
interested
in
serving
please
let
me
know.
A
Q
I'll
just
add
for
members
of
the
public
that
the
city
has
just
reposted
the
vacancy
for
Hayek
and
that
and
applications
for
that
are
due
September
26th.
A
C
M
I'll
give
an
update
to
share
just
a
quick
little
from
my
perspective.
First
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
Emily
for
facilitating
the
meetings.
I
think
it's
great
that
we
are
starting
earlier
on
in
the
planning
and
I
really
want
to
recognize
the
providers
that
have
also
showed
up
to
start
helping
develop
a
really
significant
plan
and,
honestly,
the
very
first
meeting
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
we're
at
a
point
to
be
able
to
actually
lay
out
that
plan.
I'll
leave
that
up
to
Emily.
M
If
she
thinks
that
we
are
at
a
position
where
we
can
share,
but
I
just
really
want
to
say
that
they
showed
up
with
a
plan
already
that
many
of
our
providers
already
came
recognizing
the
need
identifying
what
they
could
do
and
starting
to
talk
about
what
we're
going
to
do
for
this
winter
and
so
I
just
really
want
to
say.
Thank
you
and
I
do
want
to
say.
M
Thank
you
to
Claire
too,
who
put
in
a
lot
of
thought
around
the
additional
services,
not
just
the
housing
at
night,
but
how
the
transportation
access
and
support
individuals
once
there.
So
thank
you
for
all
of
your
efforts
and
work
in
that
as
well.
A
Q
Right,
I'm,
Sarah,
I'm,
sorry
can
I
add
to
the
code
purple
that
we
are.
It
looks
like
at
this
point
we'll
have
three
providers
participating
again.
Those
details
are
still
coming
together,
we're
meeting
again
next
week,
so
they're
really
trying
to
to
have
a
plan
in
place
quickly
be
able
to
share
that
out
publicly
but
part
of
what
we
are
talking
about
is:
can
we
make
ours
consistent
across
locations?
Can
we
clarify
well
in
advance
what
what
the
rules
are
in
locations?
Can
we
coordinate
Transportation?
Q
Can
we
make
sure
that
those
three
locations
and
and
any
others
that
participate,
are
really
a
tight-knit
group
and
really
working
in
a
very
coordinated
way
across
the
community?
So
I
I
would
Echo
what
Jen
said
really
am
I
feel
really
good
about
where
we're
at
and
good
about
the
level
of
participation
from
service
providers.
I
think
we're.
C
Q
To
have
more
beds
available
this
year
than
we
have
last
year,
which
is
great
because
it
it
certainly
appears
that
we
have
a
stronger
need
this
year
than
we
had
last
year.
A
Thank
you
Emily.
Could
you
please
make
sure
that
Jessica,
supik
and
Shannon
Boyd
received
updates
about
the
code
purple
Sheltering
when
it
becomes
available
for
their
family
Works
it'd
be
really
important.
A
Something
else
right.
I
have
an
update
on
the
coordinated
entry
from
Marcus
and
Emily
I'll.
Let
you
to
figure
out
who
could
go?
First,.
Q
I'll
start
and
then
I'll
I'll
get
Marcus
to
jump
in
so
we
have
had
a
long-standing
coordinated
entry
work
group
of
Hayek
that
has
met
to
shape
policy
around
coordinated
entry
and
provide
direction
to
both
Cam
and
vcam,
which
are
our
two
case,
conferencing
meetings
that
happen
regularly
and
that's
where
the
actual
work
of
coordinated
entry
occurs
in
our
community.
That's
where
folks
get
slated
for
Housing
Programs
cam
is
the
coordinated
assessment.
Q
Meeting
and
vcam
is
the
veteran
coordinated
assessment
meeting
and
we
run
a
parallel
process
for
veterans
and
non-veterans,
because
we
have
such
a
large
veteran
population
in
our
community
and
a
lot
of
housing
resources
for
veterans.
So
we've
had
a
long-standing
coordinated
entry
work
group.
That
group
has
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
over
the
past
year
in
just
kind
of
tightening
up
and
improving
our
policy
and
process.
Some
of
those
recommendations
have
come
to
you
all.
Some
of
those
have
not
been
policy
changes
and
so
just
been
Tactical
for
Cam
and
vcam.
Q
In
the
last
few
months,
we
have
particularly
been
working
on
this
challenge
of
moving
away
from
the
bi
Sadat
and
identifying
a
different
assessment
tool
that
our
community
can
use.
So
we're
we're
right
now,
working
through
I
think
a
pretty
aggressive
timeline
and
process
to
get
to
be
looking
at.
You
know
what
do
we
know
about
people
in
our
community
and
their
vulnerabilities,
and
how
can
we
start
to
quantify
that
in
a
tool
that
that
can
be
adopted
for
us?
Q
So
a
lot
of
activity
happening
on
that
front
and
I
expect
that
we
will
come
back
to
you
all
that
that
group
will
come
back
to
you
all
in
the
coming
months,
with
some
recommendations
and
some
some
asks.
Some
some
requests
for
votes
on,
changing
that
assessment
tool
and
on
maybe
other
accompanying
coordinated
entry
policies
that
work
group
has
not
has
not
had.
Q
As
with
several
of
these
War
groups,
has
not
had
a
formal
chair
position,
but
I
think
that
is
something
that
would
be
useful
for
us
to
look
at
going
forward
and
in
the
meantime,
Marcus's
has
been
participating
in
those
I.
Think
he's
the
only
hike
member
on
the
call
who's
been
participating
in
those
so
I'll
hand
it
over
to
him.
I
Yeah
thanks
Emily,
so
like
Emily,
was
saying,
like
we've
been
going
through
this
process,
trying
to
identify
barriers
to
housing
that
our
community
members
living
on
the
streets
are
currently
facing,
as
well
as
how
to
ways
to
overcome
those
barriers,
while
we're
also
looking
at
their
vulnerabilities
and
trying
to
include
that
into
the
context
of
coordinated
entry,
so
I
think
one
positive
thing
that's
been
bred
out
of.
I
It
is
a
more
robust
conversation
during
Cam
and
vcam
regarding
folks,
who
are
being
prioritized,
what
their
vulnerabilities
are
and
getting
a
better
sense
of
what
their
barriers
to
housing
are
to
ensure
that
we
get
them
in
the
right
placement,
whether
that
be
permanent
housing
or
if
it
be
some
other
intervention,
such
as
permanent
support
or
rapid
rehousing,
rather
on
the
end
of
coordinated
entry.
I
I
think
next
moves
that
we'll
be
looking
at
making
is
going
towards
having
a
unified
by
name
list,
from
which
we
can
then
begin
to
look
across
different
housing
interventions
with
various
agencies
who
are
presenting
in
Camden
vcam,
so
that
as
a
community,
we
can,
you
know,
make
those
decisions
about
what
those
housing
interventions
will
look
like.
A
Wow,
that's
amazing:
Marcus
I
would
really
have
a
big
impact.
I
think
you
guys
for
working
on
that
you
wouldn't
have
any
questions
for
Marcus
or
Emily.
Unfortunately,
okay,
all
right,
thank
you.
Can
I
have
an
update
from
the
finance
work
group.
I
know:
David
Park
family
was
in
here,
I
believe
David,
Nash
and
Lance.
One
of
you
could
give
us
an
update
from
the
finance
work
group
good.
D
Morning,
everyone,
the
finance
work
group,
has
met
a
few
times
recently
in
preparation
for
the
Emergency,
Solutions
Grant
and
continuing
Continuum
of
Care
funds.
Our
work
group
consists
of
David
Nash,
David
Bartholomew
myself
and
Jamie
benchoff,
a
Community
member
with
lived
experience
and,
of
course,
we're
thankful
for
the
support
guidance
of
Inland
ball
through
this
process.
D
So
we
have
been
reviewing
letters
of
intent.
Looking
at
the
funding
that's
available
and
we've
also
reviewed
and
approved
the
scorecards
for
both
the
emergency
Solutions
Grant
and
contain
Continuum
of
Care
funds
and
we're
preparing
to
make
a
recommendation
to
Hayak
in
the
next
month
or
so.
A
Q
Great
thank
you.
I
know
that
we
are
tight
on
time,
so
I
will
try
to
be
quick
in
this.
I
want
to
give
you
all
an
update
about
both
emergency
Solutions
grant,
funding
and
Continuum
of
Care
funding.
Both
of
these,
let
me
back
up.
Q
Actually
both
of
these
are
what
the
finance
work
group
is
sorting
through
right
now
and
will
be
coming
to
you
for
votes
on
in
September,
so
just
want
to
be
sure
that
you
all
are
up
to
date
on
the
process
who's
applying
for
what
and
what
that
timeline
looks
like,
so
that
you
can
be
informed
when
the
time
comes
to
vote
on
those
recommendations,
so
emergency
Solutions
Grant.
We
walked
through
this,
maybe
last
month
or
the
month
before.
So
just
just
brief
reminder:
this
is
federal.
Q
Hud
funding
administered
by
the
state
runs
on
a
calendar
year
and
in
our
Continuum
of
Care.
It's
about
128
thousand
dollars.
40
of
that
at
most
can
be
used
for
emergency
shelter
or
Outreach,
and
60
minimum
has
to
be
used
for
housing
stability,
which
is
homelessness,
prevention
and
rapid,
rehousing
letters
of
intent
for
emergency
Solutions
grant
funding
were
due
August
19th,
and
we
received
letters
from
helpmate,
Homeward,
Bound
and
Salvation
Army,
and
you
can
see
that
particular
project
types
and
funding
amounts.
Q
There
certainly,
of
course
received
requests
for
more
funding
than
we
have
to
allocate.
So
the
finance
work
group
we'll
be
we'll
be
working
through
those
applications
using
the
scorecard
that's
been
approved
to
evaluate
those
and
then
again
making
recommendations
to
you
all
is
the
full
Hayak
for
for
a
vote.
Q
Applications
for
ESG
funding
are
due
so
again
that
was
just
letters
of
intent
that
we
have
now.
The
full
applications
are
due
September
9th
and
then
the
finance
work
group
will
be
making
their
recommendations
for
your
vote
at
the
September
23rd
meeting.
Q
Q
Any
questions
about
ESG
funding,
okay
Continuum
of
Care
funding
is
our
is
our
primary
source
of
federal
funding
for
homeless
and
housing
programs
in
the
community.
Q
When
we
were
together
last,
the
Continuum
of
Care
notice
had
not
yet
been
published
by
Hud,
but
was
published
on
August
1st,
so
I
want
to
walk
through
what
this
looks
like
some
of
you,
who've,
been
in
our
community
for
a
long
time,
have
familiarity
with
us,
and
some
folks
who
are
new
to
Hayak
in
particular
may
not
be
that
familiar
with
the
process.
So
I
just
wanted
to
provide
an
overview
so
Continuum
of
Care
funding.
This
is
an
annual
competition
of
federal
Hood
funding
available
to
cocs
across
the
country.
Q
The
process
for
accessing
these
dollars
is
very
similar
to
the
ESG
process,
so
HUD
publishes
the
notice
of
funding
opportunity.
That
is
a
103
page
document.
If
you're
interested
in
reading
it
publishes
that
notice
of
funding
opportunity
which
details
the
priorities,
requirements,
eligible
activities
and
specific
amounts.
A
Q
Are
available,
as
well
as
the
timeline,
the
Continuum
of
Care
lead
agencies,
so
in
our
community?
Of
course,
that's
the
city
of
Asheville
facilitates
that
local
process,
meaning
Distributing
the
application
information
and
then
providing
administrative
support
to
the
the
Continuum
of
Care
governance
board,
which
is
you
all
the
homeless
initiative
advisory
committee.
Q
The
finance
work
group
of
Hayak
will
review
the
project,
applications
that
are
received
and
rank
them
based
on
that
scorecard
and
then
make
recommendations
to
you
all
for
a
vote.
I
will
similar
to
ESG
I
will
put
together
an
application
that
describes
our
overall
Continuum
of
Care
activities
that
will
accompany
all
of
those
project
applications
and
then
submit
that
full
package
to
HUD
HUD
will
score
that
overlay
application,
as
well
as
the
project
applications,
make
final
decisions
and
awards
and
then
contract
directly
with
agencies.
Q
That's
policy
priorities
are
here:
I
will
I
won't
run
through
those
specifically,
but
these
are
certainly
federal
goals,
as
well
as
goals
that
we
have
locally
eligible
activities
with
Continuum
of
Care
funding
are
permanent
housing,
so
that's
either
Rapid
rehousing
or
permanent,
Supportive
Housing,
joint
transitional
housing
and
Rapid
rehousing.
That's
an
eligible
component
hmis
and
Supportive
Services.
Only.
Q
So
the
annual
renewal
demand
means
the
Continuum
of
Care
funding
that
we
that
we
currently
have
in
our
community
from
last
year's
competition
is
that
1.8
million
dollars.
So
if
we
had
flat
renewals
of
all
of
the
funding
that
we
currently
have
in
the
community,
we
would
be
looking
at
another
one
million
834
472
dollars.
Q
What
the
finance
committee
will
be
working
through
is
how
to
rank
the
project
applications
we
receive
in
order
to
identify
the
the
95
of
renewal
funding
that
should
be
prioritized
in
tier
one,
which
is
the
the
initial
bucket
of
funding
that
HUD
will
look
at
across
the
country.
So
hed's
going
to
look
at
scores
for
Continuum
of
Care
across
the
country
based
on
who
has
scored
the
highest
is
going
to
look
at
funding.
95
percent
of
that
annual
renewal
demand
in
tier
one.
Q
The
remaining
five
percent
in
in
all
cocs
across
the
country
will
be
looked
at
in
tier
two
I.
Don't
know
if
y'all
again,
this
is
complicated
sooner
I
mean.
If
you
have
questions
the
hood
is
going
to
be
looking
looking
to
fund
tier
one
across
the
country
based
on
funds.
Remaining
is
going
to
be
looking
to
fund
tier
two
and
this
year.
In
this
year's
competition,
tier
one
will
include
95
of
that
annual
renewal
demand
also
eligible
in
this
year's
competition
is
a
Continuum
of
Care
bonus.
Q
So
that
means
on
top
of
the
money
that
would
be
renewing
in
our
community
we're
eligible
for
ninety
one
thousand
dollars
of
new
money
to
for
any
of
those
eligible
activities.
We're
also
eligible
for
seventy
thousand
dollars
of
new
money
for
a
domestic
violence
bonus
so
that
that
is
open
to
any
agency
serving
people
who
are
survivors
of
domestic
violence,
and
then
the
collaborative
applicant
which
is
which
is
the
the
city
of
Asheville,
is
eligible
for
a
planning
Grant
of
fifty
five
thousand
dollars.
Q
We
have
the
same
letter
of
intent,
deadline
for
both
ESG
and
COC
funding
this
year,
which
was
August
19th,
and
so
the
letters
of
intent
that
we
received
for
Renewal
funding
are
here
on
the
screen.
That's
those
are
all
flat
renewals
of
current.
C
Q
That
that
we've
had
through
last
year's
competition.
Q
And
then
we
also
received
a
letter
of
intent
from
helpmate
to
apply
for
the
Supportive
Services,
only
coordinated
entry
project
through
the
domestic
violence
bonus
and
a
letter
of
intent
from
Homeward
Bound
to
apply
for
the
Continuum
of
Care
bonus
for
a
rapid
rehousing
project.
So
we
can
Homer
bound
currently
uses
Continuum
of
peer
funding
for
permanent
Supportive
Housing.
This
will
be
a
new
use
of
Continuum
of
Care
funds
for
them,
but
certainly
not
a
new
activity.
They're
they're
currently.
Q
Timeline
is
very
aggressive
this
year
from
the
federal
government,
so
HUD
published
that
notice
of
funding
opportunity
on
August
1st
and
the
the
nofo
prescribes
that
the
local
project
application
deadline
has
to
be
August
31st
at
the
latest,
and
so
that
means
very
difficult
timeline
for
helmet
and
Homeward
Bound
and
for
me
so
difficult
timeline
for
project
applicants
to
to
get
that
information
in
by
August
31st
following
that
deadline.
Q
Next
week
the
finance
work
group
will
be
reviewing
those
applications
that
are
received
using
that
scorecard
developing
that
ranking
recommendation,
and
that
will
come
to
you
all
for
final
vote
and
that's
during
the
special
called
meeting
for
that
purpose
on
September
13th
at
9
00
a.m.
It's
extremely
important
that
we
have
a
quorum
at
that
meeting
because
we
have
to
have
our
Continuum
of
Care
governance
board.
Approve
this
this
application
before
we're
able
to
submit
it
to
HUD.
That
submission
is
due
on
September
30th.
Q
And
that
is
it
any
questions
about
any
of
that.
A
A
R
Yeah
we
we
have
one
comment,
I,
don't
know.
If
you
guys
want
me
to
say
their
name
or
just
say
you
know,
we
got
a
comment
from
initialed
JB
is
that
okay
is
okay.
R
So
the
comment
is
regarding
this
is
what
they
said
quote
regarding
the
vulnerability
index
when
I
was
homeless
and
it
was
administered,
my
mental
illness
was
so
activated
that
I
was
afraid
to
answer
the
questions.
So
my
score
wasn't
reflective
of
my
needs
when
via
asked
what
my
score
was
to
assess
how
they
could
help.
A
A
Right
I
will
now
join
the
meeting
unless
we
have
any
objections.
We've
achieved
our
agenda
for
today,
I
really
appreciate
the
robust
conversation,
particularly
on
the
vs,
but
that,
if
we're
using
the
assessment
Tool,
thank
you
for
everyone's
participation
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
We'll
see
you
on
the
13th,
unless
you
tell
me
otherwise,.