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From YouTube: Multimodal Transportation Commission – June 28, 2023
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Regular meeting of the City of Asheville Multimodal Transportation Commission.
Access the agenda and other meeting materials at the City of Asheville website: https://www.ashevillenc.gov/department/city-clerk/boards-and-commissions/multimodal-transportation-commission/
Participate before and during the meeting on our public engagement hub: https://www.publicinput.com/C1588
B
Thank
you
Nicole
good
afternoon
and
welcome
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
June
28
2023
city
of
Asheville,
multimodal
Transportation
Commission
meeting.
My
name
is
Dennis
Wenzel
and
I
am
the
chair
of
this
group.
We
continue
to
hold
our
meetings
virtually,
but
there
are
many
ways
for
interested
parties
to
participate
in
this
Gathering.
B
The
city
of
Asheville's
engagement,
Hub,
which
includes
a
variety
of
links
and
phone
numbers,
can
be
found
on
the
multimodal
Transportation
Commission
page
of
the
city
of
Asheville's
website.
Visiting
this
page
is
the
best
way
for
you
to
get
your
ideas
and
comments
to
be
a
part
of
this
meeting.
Member
staff
and
guests.
Please
remember
to
keep
your
microphones
muted
at
all
times
when
you're,
not
speaking,
so
we
can
minimize
feedback
and
other
background
noises.
B
C
Hey
Dennis
I'm,
Randy,
Warren
and
I'm
we're
bicycle
and
pedestrian
interests.
Let's
go
to
that
ref
right
now,
thanks.
B
Are
you
ready,
Kenny
Armstrong
Kenny
is
not
able
to
join
us
today.
Jack
eigelman.
E
B
D
B
All
In
Flex
Hey,
Leanna,
Bill
Optus.
D
Bill
loft
is
here
Transit
committee.
G
Yeah
Joe
chessler
resident
of
West
Asheville
on
the
transit
committee
liaison.
H
Hi
I'm
Elise,
marter,
I
I'm,
also
a
West,
Asheville
resident
and
I
represent
pedestrian
and
Greenway
interests.
B
Hey
Elise
and
our
newest
at
large
member
Joseph
Parker.
I
Joseph
Parker
I
live
in
East
Asheville
excited
to
be
here,
I'm
a
traffic
engineer
by
trade
for
the
last
12
years,
with
a
lot
of
focus
on
active
transportation
and
place
making
from
New
Orleans.
My
husband
and
I
moved
here
last
year
and
we're
excited
to
put
down
permanent
Roots
here.
B
Okay,
George
bald.
J
Good
afternoon
everyone
Joe
Archibald
I,
am
the
chair
of
the
planet,
cities,
Planning
and
Zoning,
commission
and
I
am
the
liaison
to
multimodal
from
that
commission
I
also
am
an
active,
bicyclist
and
pedestrian.
B
Hey
Joe
Elizabeth
lichas.
B
I
think
I've
seen
Elizabeth
join
quite
quite
yet
I'm
sure
she'll
be
here
in
a
moment
and
Maggie
Allman,
Maggie
Maggie's,
not
here
quite
yet,
but
I'm
sure
they're
all
racing
to
be
a
part
of
this
thrilling
meeting.
B
Okay
coming
up
next,
we
will
move
on
to
our.
Let's
see
the
agenda
review
and
approve
today's
agenda.
June
28
2023
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve.
B
Hey
Leah,
thank
you
and
can
I
get
a
second
Joe
with
the
second
any
comments
or
questions
all
right.
We
will
move
to
approve
today's
agenda.
Roll
call,
Randy,
Warren,
aye,
Jack,
eichelman,
aye,
Leanna,
Joyner,.
H
B
Joseph
Parker
and
I
would
almost
carries
next
item
is
to
review
and
approve
our
minutes
from
the
May
24th
meeting
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve.
B
B
D
I
B
B
We
have
not
received
any
public
comment
for
the
meeting
today,
so
we'll
move
down
to
new
business
in
our
new
business
first
item
is
to
welcome
our
newest
member
Joseph,
Barker
and
Joseph
I
feel,
like
you,
did
a
very
fine
introduction,
so
I'm
not
going
to
put
you
on
the
spot
to
add
anything
else
unless
there's
something
else
that
you
wish
to
add
we're
very
excited
to
have
you
a
part
of
this
meeting
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
kind
of
Leverage
your
skills
and
experience
to
make
the
city
of
Asheville
even
a
better
place
to
live
happy
to
be
here.
B
E
Bye,
thank
you.
So
whenever
we
have
a
member
of
one
of
the
multimodal
subcommittees
that
the
subcommittee
has
requested
that
they'd
be
removed,
it
has
to
be
approved
by
the
multimodal
commission
and
unfortunately,
there
is
a
member
who
joined
the
transit
committee,
but
then
never
attended
any
of
the
meetings,
and
this
becomes
a
problem
when
we're
trying
to
have
Quorum,
though
at
the
multimodal
commission
meeting
I
think
at
the
I
think
it
was
this
recent
month
they
requested
that
the
mmtc
consider
the
removal
and
the
gentleman's
name
is
Philip
Lucero.
E
So
we
have
proposed
a
motion
for
you
guys
to
consider
removal
of
Mr
luthera
from
the
committee.
B
Thanks
Jessica
and
just
for
a
little
bit
more
background,
there's
been
multiple
efforts
to
reach
out
with
every
channel
available.
There's
just
has
been
no
feedback,
and
we
do
certainly
welcome
Phillips.
You
know
interest
in
the
future
when
he
may
have
some
time
to
be
a
part
of
the
group
again
in
the
future.
He
can
certainly
reapply
at
that
time.
Are
there
any
comments
or
questions
yeah
Joe.
G
G
It
will
be
helpful
to
forward
this
to
the
mmtc
as
an
informal
action
which
has
been
accomplished
and,
as
you
said,
Dennis
we
did
reach
out
a
couple
of
times
to
fill
up
without
success,
and
so
by
all
means.
This
is
not
a
punitive
action.
It
is
simply
a
policy
we
want
to
adhere
to
thanks
both
of
you.
B
Absolutely
okay
looks
like
there
is
a
suggested
motion.
Can
we
get
a
motion
they
want
to
make
that
motion.
F
I'd
be
happy
to
make
the
motion
the
the
multimodal
commission
requests
the
removal
of
Philip
Lucero
from
our
commission,
which
is
the
representative
to
the
transit
committee.
It's
not
exactly
a
stated
here,
but
it's
a
little
confusing.
You
want
me
to
read
it
as
presented
here.
Oh.
B
Oh,
thank
you
Bill
any
comments
or
questions
all
right
without
comment:
we'll
go
through
a
roll
call,
Randy
Warren,
aye,
Jack,
Eagleman.
B
Joyner
hi
Bill,
Loftus,
aye,
Joe
chessler,
all
right,
Billy,
smarter
I
am
Joseph
Parker,
aye
and
I
as
well
motion
carries.
Thank
you
very
much.
Moving
on
to
see
unfinished
business.
The
first
item
we
have
there
is
an
update
on
the
Asheville
unpaved
project
Jessica.
A
Thank
you
for
your
time
today,
I'm
going
to
give
you
an
update
on
the
Asheville
unpaved
efforts
that
we've
been
doing
with
the
Asheville
unpaved
Alliance,
so
Asheville
unpaved,
is,
is
dedicated
to
seeing
the
implementation
of
dirt
trails
or
a
fancy
way
to
call
them
is
natural
surface
Trails.
We
like
the
idea
because
they
are
cheaper
to
build
than
paved
Greenways
and
much
faster
to
construct
and
when
they
are
built
sustainably,
which
will
be
what
we
require
from
the
trail
Builder,
they
tend
to
be
more
durable
and
require
less
frequent
maintenance.
A
A
I
also
noticed
in
the
many
years
that
I've
worked
here,
that
people
desired
them.
When
we
were
working
on
the
Gap
plan.
In
the
first
survey
we
had
a
question:
we
had
a
number
of
questions
about
Asheville,
unpaved
and
natural
surface
trails
and
96
of
the
people
who
responded
to
the
survey
said
that
they
would
very
much
like
or
would
like
to
see
natural
surface
Trails
as
part
of
our
Greenway
program.
And
so
we
did
include
them
as
a
new
typology
of
the
close
the
gap
plan.
A
And
so,
for
the
past
two
years,
we've
been
working
with
them
on
what
that
might
look
like,
and
we
are
getting
very
close
to
entering
into
a
use
agreement
with
them.
That
will
allow
them
to
raise
the
money
and
hire
a
trail
Builder
to
build
the
trails
and
manage
the
trails
in
the
three
pilot
projects.
That
I
will
show
you
in
a
minute
also
install
signage
and
trailheads
and
wayfinding
signs
in
the
trail
systems
and
keep
the
trails
and
the
signage
maintained
for
three
years.
A
So
when
I
said,
they're
cheaper
than
a
regular
Greenway,
I
really
mean
it.
Our
Greenways
right
now
are
clocking
it
at
over
four
million
dollars
a
mile
to
build,
and
the
three
pilot
projects
at
Asheville
Empire
paved
would
like
to
do
combined
will
be
less
than
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
we'll
make
almost
five
miles
of
trails.
A
This
is
particularly
exciting
to
the
people
who
are
working
in
Nashville
on
paved
because
the
middle
school
has
a
very
active
and
successful
after-school
bike
program
that
is
teaching
kids.
How
to
ride
bikes
safely.
So
having
these
trails
in
their
backyard
would
be
very
beneficial.
It's
also
behind
the
YWCA,
which
has
a
lot
of
programming
that
could
use
the
trails
as
well
for
kids
up
to
elderly
people.
A
The
estimated
cost
to
create
these
Trails
is
93
000
and
it's
less.
It's
0.83
miles
of
Trail
the
yellow
dotted
line
in
this
map.
The
little
yellow
dotted
line
is
the
alignment
for
future
the
coat
Branch
Greenway
and
the
green
dotted
line
are
the
trails
that
Asheville
unpaved
Alliance
is
proposing
to
build.
So,
as
you
can
see,
the
trail
alignment
will
not
interfere
with
the
greenway
Construction.
A
The
next
pilot
project
is
Azalea.
Park,
there's
really
two
trails
that
at
this
time
are
not
connected,
but
we'll
work
on
that
at
a
later
date.
It's
almost
a
mile
and
a
half
of
trails.
A
One
of
them
is
on
the
east
side
near
the
dog
park
and
it's
in
the
Thomas
Wolf
cabin
site
area,
which
happens
to
be
a
historic
site,
and
the
second
Trail
is,
on
the
other
side,
closer
to
the
Nature
Center
and
we'll
go
on
a
really
beautiful
area
that
is
along
the
Swannanoa
River
on
the
other
side
of
the
soccer
fields.
Over
here
and
we'll
pop
up
on
gash's
Creek
Road,
where
the
city
has
a
little
parklet
with
a
picnic
area.
A
And
then
the
third
is
in
the
French
Broad
River
area,
it's
in
the
property
that
the
city
leases
from
Duke
Energy.
We
just
finished
the
French
Broad
River
West
Greenway,
section
that
closed
the
gap
between
New
Belgium
and
the
French
Broad
River
Park.
This
one
is
a
little
different.
It's
got
the
green
lines,
which
signifies
the
trails
that
will
be
used
for
multi-use,
hiking
and
biking,
but
also
a
bike.
A
A
A
The
first
group
of
people
were
in
the
book
hope
Branch
area
on
Charles
Street,
which
is
near
the
school
in
the
YWCA,
and
then
the
people
who
live
on
the
east
side
of
clingman
Avenue.
We
also
met
with
the
people
who
lived
on
the
park
side
of
Riverview
Drive,
that's
the
West,
the
east
side
of
the
Cleveland,
sorry
of
Riverview
Drive,
and
then
the
Azalea
Park
trails.
A
We
met
with
people
from
the
gaseous,
Creek
Road
and
overall,
the
questions
or
concerns
that
we
heard
most
were
that
they
are
pretty
beaten
down
by
the
fact
that
they
live
in
properties
that
are
managed
by
the
city,
but
have
a
lot
of
problems
with
homeless
camps
and
crime,
and
they
had
concerns
that
these
Trails
could
possibly
make
it
worse.
We
talked
a
lot
about
the
fact
that
when
you
activate
Park
areas
like
this,
that
haven't
been
managed
in
any
way
prior
to
activating
the
areas
with
Trails,
they
tend
to
improve
and
I.
A
Think,
though,
most
people
understood
that
and
became
a
little
less
concerned
about
the
idea
of
these
Trails
coming
in
their
area
and
now
we're
meeting
with
neighborhood
groups.
So
we
can
iguana,
sell
French
Broad,
which
we
did
meet
with
them
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
letting
them
know,
and
then
finally,
we
will
be
announcing
on
a
city-wide
level
that
we're
planning
to
build
these
trails
to
seek
any
kind
of
further
questions
and
comments.
A
We
have
a
few
steps
left
to
do
before
we
are
ready
to
go
to
council
the
at
Azalea
Park,
like
I,
said.
One
of
those
Trails
is
near
the
historic
Thomas
Wolf
cabin.
So
we
need
to
go
to
the
historic
Resource
Commission
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
We
plan
to
do
that
in
August.
We
need
to
get
an
easement
from
Asheville
City
schools
for
the
bakote
branch
trails
that
are
on
their
property,
a
rough
timeline
for
that
will
be
September,
since
they
just
have
a
new
superintendent
that
will
be
coming
in
mid-july.
A
So
we're
giving
her
a
few
weeks
to
settle
in
before
we
go
over
there
to
talk
with
them,
some
more
about
an
easement
and
then
for
the
French
Broad
River
Trails.
We
do
need
approval
from
Duke
Energy,
the
land
owner.
We
do
lease
the
land
like
I
said
we
have
a
99-year
lease
with
them
and
in
the
lease
it
is
described
explicitly
that
dirt
trails
are
something
that
they
would
entertain
as
an
appropriate
fit
for
the
the
property.
K
Yeah
hi
Lucy
thanks
so
much
I
am
excited
that
we're
looking
at
other,
more
less
expensive
and
quicker
Alternatives
to
really
get
some
multimodal
options
around
the
city.
K
I
am
curious
about
the
the
these
three
particular
priorities
in
terms
of
the
the
third
one
especially
struck
me
with
the
French
Broad
River
Park,
since
they
had
a
Greenway
on
one
side,
then
did
The
Greenway
on
the
other
side,
and
now
it
looks
like
there's
two
more
dotted
lines
with
so
many
areas
in
the
city
that
don't
have
any
Greenways
or
Trails
were
there
others
considered,
and
how
was
that
one
in
particular
move
to
the
top
of
the
list.
Given
all
the
work
that's
been
done
recently,
good.
A
Question,
thank
you.
Yeah.
There
has
been
a
lot
of
discussion
as
I
said
when
we
started
talking
about
doing
dirt
trails
as
part
of
our
Greenway
planning.
We
had
a
lot
of
interest
not
only
from
the
three
groups
that
have
become
the
Asheville
unpaved
Alliance,
but
also
running
groups
and
by
groups
and
had
at
least
three
meetings
with
them
on
where
potential
sites
could
be.
We
had
after
discussions,
we
came
up
with
five
pilot
projects
throughout
the
city.
A
These
three
rows
to
the
top,
primarily
because
they
are
lands
that
are
controlled
for
the
most
part
by
the
city
of
Asheville
or
by
a
school
that
works
closely
with
the
city
of
Asheville,
the
connectivity
of
them
to
neighborhoods
and
the
French
Broad
River
West
area
has
some
Trails
actually
their
maintenance
roads,
but
we
have
seen
a
lot
of
activity
in
that
area
already
on
these
makeshift
Trails.
So
we're
trying
to
improve
the
situation
out
there
with
Better
Built
trails
and
to
keep
people
away
from
the
electric
infrastructure.
C
C
You'll
have
emergency
vehicles
to
service
them
that
same
infrastructure
isn't
in
place
on
the
on
the
unpaid
Trails.
Is
that
turn
it
all?
Or
how
do
we
deal
with
the
fact
that,
like
you,
couldn't
drive
a
fire
truck
out
there
to
meet
somebody
if
they
broke
a
leg
or
something
like
that
or
I'm?
Just
wondering
how
we
deal
with
that
kind
of
situation.
A
Yeah,
this
will
be
a
lot
like
you
know,
riding
in
trails
in
state
parks
and
Bent
Creek
and
Richmond
Hill.
However
much
more
accessible
and
closer
to
town,
so
yeah,
you
cannot
drive
an
ambulance
down
there,
but
you're
not
very
far
from
a
main
road
or
Greenway
that
can
a
an
ambulance
could
make
their
way
that
far
to
someone
to
to
go
into
it
evacuate
people.
A
If
they're
hurt
the
rare
instances
they
will
be
hurt.
Most
of
these
trails
are
multi-use
Trails,
they're,
not
they're,
not
going
to
be
hardcore
bike
trails
that
we
expect
people
to
be
doing
really
risky
things
on
they're
going
to
be
more
easy
to
manage.
That
doesn't
mean
that
someone
can't
fall
and
break
their
leg
if
I
could
fall
and
break
my
leg
right
here
in
my
room,
but
I
don't
foresee
this
being
a
real
risk.
Laden
activity.
A
J
Hey
Lucy,
thanks
for
all
this
I,
remember,
I
think
it
was
like
several
years
back
walking
around
up
there
behind
the
school
with
Mike
talking
about
this
kind
of
stuff.
So
I
was
curious
about
more
particular
the
part
at
Azalea,
Park
and
wondering
you
know.
I
know
that
right
now
is
definitely
popular
with
soccer
and
all
that
and
I
was
just
curious
if
there
were
plans
future
plans
for
more
of
these
types
of
Trails,
also
what
potential
feedback
you
had
from
the
neighborhoods.
J
You
know
in
regards
to
these
Trails
being
done
there,
what
their
concerns
might
be.
You
know
I,
look
at
it.
As
you
know,
some
of
these
Trails
again,
especially
Azalea
Park,
like
connecting
potentially
some
of
these
roads
and
being
able
to
get
from
like
Swannanoa,
River,
Road
down
to
Dash's
Creek
and
maybe
up
to
the
back
side
of
Highland
one
day,
and
you
don't
have
to
go
on
swannano
River
Road.
If
you
live
in
one
of
those
neighborhoods
so
again,
just
curious
about
all
that
and
I
love.
The
idea
of
these
for
sure.
A
Yeah,
so
we
are
hoping
that
these
are
just
the
three
first
pilot
projects.
As
I
said,
we
had
five
originally
that
Asheville
and
paved
was
willing
to
take
on
and
for
various
reasons.
Two
of
them
have
fallen
off
the
immediate
implementation
list,
waiting
in
the
wings,
maybe
for
the
next
round.
A
There's
opportunities
throughout
the
city.
These,
like
I,
said,
were
three
easy
ones
that
we
just
wanted
to
get
our
toes
in
the
water,
but
there's
been
expressed
interest
for
many
others
throughout
the
city
in
different
areas.
That
I
think
will
be
much
easier
for
us
to
implement
once
we
have
some
Trails
on
the
ground
as
an
example
of
what
Asheville
Olympic
can
do
with
asking
about
what
neighbors
concerns
were.
A
A
One
of
the
ones
that's
most
concerning
is
campfires
at
night,
which
makes
them
concerned
for
forest
fires,
and
so
none
of
that
is
is
anything
that's
that
we
can't
agree
with
during
covid.
Things
got
much
worse.
The
city
right
now
is
using
arpa
funds
to
help
clean
up
these
areas.
The
French,
Broad
River
West
area
has
the
same
problems.
You
can
probably
see
driving
down
Lyman
Street,
so
we're
planning
on
doing
some
big,
cleanups
and
working
on
ways
to
keep
the
surveillance
of
the
areas
in
check
with
various
departments
doing
the
work.
A
K
A
Ends
of
the
spectrum,
really
some
people
were
concerned.
How
can
we
do
this
and
impact
a
bear?
You
know
bears
and
fox
and
turkeys
homes,
but
they
are
not
endangered
animals
and,
like
I
said,
these
trails
are
very
low
impact
to
the
environment.
If
anything,
the
Bears
will
probably
be
happy
that
there's
Trails
for
them
to
get
to
the
places
they're
going
faster.
A
Just
like
the
rest
of
us
on
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum,
people
were
asking
if
there
were
ways
to
humanely
remove
the
wildlife
from
the
area,
because
they
are
a
problem
for
them
like
the
YWCA
has
Pre-K
people
and
they
have
to
get
their
four-year-olds
inside
once
they
see
a
bear.
So
it's
been
interesting
to
hear
nothing
that
I
didn't
expect.
B
H
Hi,
thank
you.
I'm
really
excited
to
see
these
projects
that
are
being
proposed
and
finding
these
little
kind
of
like
pockets
of
nature,
to
create
for
the
people
here
in
Asheville
and
I,
just
kind
of
wanted
to
share
some
thoughts
that
that
have
come
up
for
me.
Looking
at
the
presentation,
my
first
kind
of
thought
when
I
saw
the
natural
surface
Trails
is
that
you
know
we
don't
want
to
rely
on
these
for
connectivity
from
one
place
to
another
because
of
the
accessibility
component
and
that
they
aren't
accessible
to
everybody.
H
So
I
have
heard
some
people
mentioning
that
it'd
be
great
to
to
see
these
in
places
that
don't
already
have
trails
and
I
certainly
agree
that
there
are
gaps
in
our
system,
but
I
was
happy
to
see
that
these
trails
that
are
being
proposed
aren't
being
relied
on
for
some
type
of
connectivity
and
instead
they're
alongside
areas
that
do
have
trails
that
are
accessible
for
people
with
mobility
issues
and
that
type
of
stuff.
H
So
I
was
excited
to
see
that,
and
also
just
wanted
to
share
I
like
numbers,
and
you
had
said
that
I
think
the
paved
Greenways
are
clocking
in
at
around
four
million
dollars.
A
mile
is
that.
H
And
so
I
just
did
some
quick
math
on
these
and
they're
coming
out
to
between
67
000
and
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
mile
just
to
normalize
that
in
case
anyone
wants
to,
like
you
know,
compare
apples
to
apples
here
as
far
as
the
value
is
concerned,
so
I
think
that's
a
really
good
use
of
our
funds
and
then
I
do
have
a
question
about
this.
H
A
It's
it's
a
little
different
than
a
pump
track,
but
they
are
built
for
the
heavier
speeds
or
faster
speeds
and
heavier
weights
of
bikes.
So
the
turns
are
more
fortified
and
armored
and
can
handle
the
the
speeds
and
we
are
building
them
for
a
faster
bike,
ride
similar
to
a
pump
track,
but
we
won't
be
manufacturing
the
the
things
that
pump
tracks
have
and
we'll
just
be
taking
advantage
of
the
natural
topography
to
make
it
a
more
interesting
bike
ride.
A
But
that
being
said,
it
is
being
built
that
way
we
have
no
way
of
enforcing
it
being
a
bike
only
Trail,
so
that
that
is
that,
as
far
as
Mobility
goes
you're
right,
these
will
not
be
Ada
accessible
because
they're
recreational
in
nature
and
they're
not
the
primary
access
to
anything.
They
don't
need
to
meet
Ada
standards,
but
adaptive
sports
groups
will
completely
be
able
to
use
these
and
enjoy
them.
B
D
D
So
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
lean
more
into
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
maintenance
plan
once
the
trails
are
sorted
out,
and
it
also
seems
to
me
like
a
great
opportunity
to
develop
some
Community
groups
to
to
help
I
know
of
a
model
but
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
I
wonder
if
there's
a
way,
maybe
to
lean
into
that
to
really
try
and
encourage
Community
groups
to
really
own.
You
know
own
these
places,
so
they
feel
excited
about.
D
What's
there
and
I
wonder
also
if
you
could
talk
just
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
signage
too,
and
this
is
a
different
question,
but
some
of
the
signage
and
connection
points
at
the
various
Greenways
and
trails
or
their.
You
know
trailheads.
You
mentioned
signage,
so
just
to
make
a
little
more
detail
about
that.
A
Okay,
first
of
all,
for
those
of
you
who
Don't
Know,
Jack
eigelman
works
very
closely
with
the
friends
of
hominy
Creek
Greenway,
which
is
an
official
Greenway
and
probably
just
recently
decided
to
be
a
permanent
natural
surface,
Trail
Greenway,
and
they
have
done
a
great
job
being
the
what
would
be
the
right
word:
stewards
of
the
greenway
and
have
the
100
respect
for
that.
So
with
Asheville
unpaid
we're
entering
into
an
agreement
just
like
we
have
done
with
friends
of
Harmony
Creek
Greenway
within
agreements,
we
can't
make
them
last
forever.
A
They
always
have
to
have
a
Sunset
date
and
they
can
be
renewed
so,
for
example,
with
friends
of
hominy
Creek
their
agreements
last
three
years
and
then
get
renewed
and
each
time
go
to
council
for
approval.
A
So,
with
this
use
agreement
with
the
Asheville
unpaved
Alliance,
we
have
three
years
of
Maintenance
built
into
the
costs
that
they're
going
to
take
on
so
they'll
raise
the
funds
for
the
maintenance
of
three
years,
and
what
that
will
look
like
is
the
trail
Builder
that
they
use
or
a
contract
with
another
Trail
Builder
to
do
the
bulk
of
the
maintenance.
There
will
be
opportunities
for
volunteers
to
help,
but
it's
just
easier
to
have
that
one
professional
Trail
Builder
taking
charge
of
the
maintenance
after
three
years.
A
A
But
this
we're
setting
the
precedent
of
what
type
kinds
of
signs
we
will
have
we're
just
getting
started
on
the
signage
work
right
now,
so
I,
don't
know
what
that's
going
to
look
like
by
the
time
we
get
it
up,
but
those
are
the
levels
of
signage
we'll
have
is
Trailhead
directional
wayfinding
we'll
also
have
an
online
presence
for
information,
so
people
will
know
where
to
park
if
there's
bathroom
facilities,
if
there's
trash
cans
or
any
other
Park
amenities
in
the
trail
experience
that
they
can
expect
to
find.
B
G
Yeah
Lucy
hi
good
to
see
you.
Thank
you
great
work.
I
was
I,
have
a
question
on
the
French
Broad
River
West
proposal
and
the
bike.
Only
Trail
itself
has
that
loop
at
the
southern
Edge
and
my
question
is:
was
there
any
discussion
of
linking
that
up
to
Grandview
and
Riverview
at
the
South
End
there
so
that
the
the
trail
can
be
accessed
from
other
than
just
the
greenway
from
the
north?
It
would
really
seem.
G
I
I
can
see
some
advantage
of
doing
that.
I
can
also
see
some
potential
issues,
but
if
it's,
if
it's
been
discussed,
I'd
like
to
know
what
you
have
to
say
about
that,
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
advantage
to
open
up
other
other
users
that
may
not
use
it
from
down
below,
but
could
access
up
on
top
of
the
bluff.
What
do
you
think
well.
A
It
was
more
problematic
than
I
had
thought.
Originally.
I
was
also
hoping
for
a
connection
up
into
here,
but
this
right
at
the
top,
is
privately
owned.
So
it's
bottlenecks
up
there
and
or
blocked
off,
not
even
bottlenecked.
A
There
is
an
existing
maintenance
up
Road
up
there,
but
we
don't
want
to
rely
on
the
Duke's
maintenance
roads
as
an
official
Trail,
so
that
might
be
just
a
voluntary
action
of
people
making
that
short
connection
from
Grandview
or
the
lower
end
of
Longview
or
Riverview.
Sorry.
But
the
other
possibility
is
the
spur
trail
that
is
on
the
French
Broad
River
Greenway.
So
you
can
get
that
off
of
Haywood
Road
or
starting
at
the
New
Belgium,
and
you
can
just
ride
on
the
greenway
to
this
midpoint
and
then
hop
on
the
trails.
B
Great
any
other
comments
or
questions
I
have
two
quick
items:
I
wanted
to
bring
up
Lucy
the
first
one
was
I,
know
that
you
and
I
had
a
discussion
offline
about
some
folks,
having
not
being
aware
of
where
they
can
find.
All
of
this
information.
Can
you
just
repeat
again
where
all
of
this
exists
and
where
it
lives
on
the
city's
website.
A
Yeah,
if
you
Google,
Asheville
unpaved
to
Asheville
you'll,
probably
come
up
with
the
city's
project
page,
which
has
all
the
information
that
I
just
gave
you
and
then
Asheville
on
bikes
is
also
holding
their
version
of
Asheville
unpaved,
which
has
a
link
for
fundraising.
A
If
you
would
care
to
go
there
but
we'll
try,
we
try
hard
to
keep
our
project
Pages
updated
with
the
most
current
information.
B
Excellent
and
then
one
final
item
I
know
that
folks,
we've
received
a
great
deal
of
input,
that's
kind
of
that's
how
this
process
works,
and
it's
been
a
couple
of
years
and
it's
really
kind
of
starting
to
come
to
fruition.
I
know
that
we
were
hearing
some
from
some
folks,
specifically
about
Native
species
and
plants.
How
how
have
we
addressed
that
we
brought
somebody
in
you
know?
What's
our
what's
our
approach
to
that?
That
group.
A
So
this
we
do,
we
are
not
required
by
law
to
do
any
kind
of
Environmental
Studies
to
be
able
to
provide
natural
surface
trails
in
areas
and
if
we
had
had
a
Federal
Grant
or
if
we
were
trying
to
make
connections
from
one
end
to
a
facility.
For
example,
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
would
trigger
more
in-depth
the
need
for
Environmental
Studies,
but
they're
not
required.
So
I
didn't
want
for
the
fundraisers
to
be
burdened
with
the
cost
of
that.
A
The
way
that
trail
building
works
is
the
trail
Builders
work
slowly,
so
they,
for
example,
only
do
as
much
of
a
trail
that
they
can
finish
in
that
day
or
a
couple
days,
so
they're
not
needing
to
do
a
ton
of
say,
erosion
control
that
a
paved
Greenway
would
need
our
paved
Greenways
are
typically
paid
for
with
federal
grants
and
are
much
more
impactful
to
environments.
So
we
need
to
do
more.
A
D
Jack,
do
you
have
a
comment?
Oh
yeah,
Dennis
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
that
point.
I
think
one
of
the
great
benefits
of
the
trails
cutting
in
some
of
these
neglected
forested
areas.
It
does
bring
attention
to
the
public
of
the
very
poor
shape
of
these
forests,
and
it
also
makes
them
more
accessible
to
people
who
are
interested
in
maybe
doing
some
of
that
work.
D
So
we
should
just
maybe
that's
beyond
our
scope
here,
but
I
think
you
know
healthier
Forest
I
mean
means
the
trails
will
be
easier
to
maintain
so
I'd
love
to
I
just
want
to
re-emphasize.
Your
point
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
think
about
that
Forest
Restoration
in
there
now
that
it's
part
of
the
transportation
corridor,
excellent.
B
Thank
you
well,
thank
you
very
much
Lucy.
That
was
awesome.
It's
great
to
see
these
this
concept
coming
along
and
we're
very
excited
to
see,
be
able
to
actually
get
out
there
and
use
these
Trails
soon.
B
Right
take
care.
Okay.
The
next
item
is
the
proposed
active
Transportation
committee's
preliminary
framework
Jessica.
E
Sure
thank
you
and
I
might
defer
to
you
Dennis
or
any
of
the
other
folks
that
have
been
involved.
With
this
conversation,
please
feel
free
to
jump
in,
but
we're
trying
to
take
the
next
step
toward
the
merger
consolidation.
Whatever
you
want
to
call
it
of
the
bike,
ped
Tech
Court,
then
the
greenway
committee
and
so
I
think
it
was
back
in
January
or
so
or
December.
E
Maybe
where
we
talked
about
this-
and
there
was
several
members
of
this
group
that
got
together
to
come
up
with
some
of
the
what
I'm
calling
the
framework
and
an
outline.
E
If
you
will
of
what
this
merger
might
look
like,
and
a
number
of
points
were
identified
and
I
think
what
I'm
looking
for
today
is
to
get
consensus
from
the
entire
multimodal
Transportation
Commission
on
these
a
handful
of
points,
and
that
way
we
can
move
forward
with
making
that
making
it
all
more
formalized,
including
coming
up
with
the
the
rules
of
procedure,
bylaws
and
I,
think
we
will
have
to
make
a
minor
change
to
potentially
the
multimodal
commission
ordinance.
E
But
before
we
get
into
all
of
the
more
formal
paperwork
types
of
things
to.
We
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
on
the
same
page,
with
what
I'm
calling
the
the
major
preliminary
framework
point,
so
I
tried
to
Bullet
those
out
as
what
has
been
proposed
by
the
this
I'll
call
it
the
subcommittees.
It's
been
talking
about
this
and
those
things
involve
the
the
name.
E
The
proposed
name,
the
proposed
number
of
members,
that
there
will
be
both
voting
and
non-voting
the
number
of
folks
from
the
multimodal
commission
that
would
be
appointed
to
the
new
committee
and
what
the
terms
would
look
like.
So
the
terms
of
the
individuals
that
would
be
on
the
commission
on
the
new
committee
and
I.
E
We
can
go
through
them,
one
by
one
if
you'd
like
and
then,
if
there's
any
changes
to
any
of
them,
then
we
can
make
sure
to
note
that
in
any
motion
that
that
you,
you
guys
feel
comfortable
with
and
I.
E
We
could
start
with
talking
about
the
name
and
we've
I
think
this
is
probably
something
that
I
think
most
folks
are
have
already
agreed
to.
But
I
just
would
like
to
get
confirmation
that
we
think
that
the
name
of
the
new
committee
would
be
the
act
of
Transportation
committee.
B
Yeah,
just
to
kind
of
give
a
little
bit
more
here,
you
know
what
we
were
running
into
is
some
background
for
some
of
the
newer
folks
is
we
had
Greenway
projects
and
bike
ped
projects,
and
it
was
really
difficult
to
kind
of
delineate,
because
those
two
really
are
oftentimes
the
same
thing,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
figure
out
is
how
we
can
group
these
together,
and
so
when
I
was
doing
a
little
bit
of
research.
B
B
It's
one
of
those
two
buckets
doesn't
really
make
sense
anymore,
and
so
it's
really
kind
of
one
bucket
putting
them
all
together
and
then
so
that
that's
kind
of
the
name
that
where
the
name
came
from
I
think
you
know
maybe
just
got
you
brought
it
to
the
group,
and
then
we
kind
of
you
know
talked
about
a
couple
different
names
and
then
just
really
felt.
Like
it,
it
kind
of
fit
it's
it's
vague
enough,
but
I
think
it's
also.
B
It
kind
of
encompasses
kind
of
everything
and
I
think
it
gives
the
group
or
gives
us
this
committee
an
opportunity
to
grow
as
well
as
other
things
will
kind
of
pop
up
in
here.
D
No
I'm,
just
gonna,
add
I,
really
like
the
name,
I
just
posted
a
little
definition,
but
for
for
the
public,
it's
human-powered
Mobility
such
as
biking,
walking
or
rolling,
and
that
sounds
great,
like
I,
think
that
does
kind
of
capture
that
deadline
of
of
overlap
that
you
were
discussing
so
I'm
in
favor,
a
fan
I'm
a
fan
of
the
name
me
too.
E
Okay,
so
let's
move
on
to
maybe
some
of
the
points
that
that
might
be
a
little
bit
more
complicated.
E
The
subgroup
met
and
talked
about
the
number
of
numbers
that
the
committee
should
be
comprised
of
and
have
suggested
that
there
being
nine
voting,
Members
Plus,
the
additional
exoticio
members-
and
there
are
right
now
there
are
a
total
of
13
members
on
both
groups
combined,
so
that
basically
means
that
four
people
from
those
combined
would
need
to
step
off
and
but
I
think
that's
not
as
difficult
as
it
found,
because
when
we
talk
about
the
number
of
folks
that
would
be
appointed
from
the
multimodal.
E
If
that
were
to
go
down
from
four
to
two,
that's
two
people
there.
We
also
have
one
of
the
members
of
The
Greenway
committee,
Mr
Zukowski.
He
was
just
appointed
to
the
multimodal
commission,
but
he
starts
in
July.
E
So
that's
the
third
one,
so
I
think
and
then
there's
I've
heard
that
there's
one
person
that's
on
the
bike
had
tough
course
that
doesn't
live
in
the
city
and
so
right
now,
that's
not
something
that
is
allowed
for
committee
members
and
then
exorcistio
members
there's
currently
four
and
I
I'm,
assuming
they
are
from
their
exoticio,
who
are
The
Greenway
committee,
but
I
could
be
wrong
and
that's
someone
from
Mountain
truth,
someone
from
Asheville
on
bike,
someone
from
connect
Buncombe
and
someone
from
River
lake.
E
So
the
proposal
is
to
keep
those
for
x50o,
represent
representation,
so
I
think
right
now
the
important
thing
is
to
decide
the
nine
voting
members
sound
like
a
good
idea,
and
then
we
can
further
discuss
like
the
specific
members.
B
And
just
a
tiny
bit
more
background,
Jessica.
So
what
we
did
when
we
had
this
discussion,
we
did
talk
about
expanding
it
and
we
were
concerned
about
not
you
know,
I
think
I
feel
like
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
still
get
a
quorum
to
get
some
things
done,
so
we
were
concerned
about
it.
If
we
expanded
up
too
much,
is
it
too
difficult
for
us
to
actually
still
be
productive
in
that
way?
B
So
it
was
difficult
because
we
do
want
to
make
sure
we're,
including
everyone,
but
we
also
want
to
make
sure
we're
we're
productive.
So
there
was
a
lot
of
good,
healthy
discussion
back
and
forth,
and
we
kind
of
settled
on
on
those
these
numbers
which
reflect
you
know
our
our
group
and
I
believe
reflects
what's
going
on
existingly
with
existing
with
the
Greenways
as
well.
B
C
Yeah,
just
real
quick,
the
nature
of
the
bike
that
task
force
too
it
was,
is
looser
because
it
was
task
force
and
so
people
were
used
to
just
coming
and
not
necessarily
you
know,
being
an
official
member,
so
I
think
that
that
may
carry
over
the
like
the
transportation
commit
committee
too,
in
terms
of
like
people
just
coming
and
being
inactive
participate
in
the
meetings,
without
actually
officially
being
on
the
board
too.
So
there's
just
that
atmosphere.
If
it's
it
exists
already,
and
it
could
extend
there
too.
C
So
people
don't
feel
like
if
they
don't
want
to
be
actually
an
official
Committee
Member
or
they
aren't
on
physical
Committee
Member,
but
they
still
have
input.
They
still
feel
comfortable,
coming
and
and
showing
up
and
participating
the
discussion,
which
is
a
little
bit
different
than
a
lot
of
the
Committees.
We
have
that
are
more
formalized
too,
but
it
might
help
the
transition
too.
B
And
I
think
that
was
the
only
other
I'm
looking
through
the
notes.
Here.
The
only
other
comment
was
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
would
reach
out
to
some
of
the
walking
groups
in
town
to
see
if
they
could
be
a
part
or
at
least
be
aware
of
it
and
figure
out
what
you
know,
how
we
can
interact.
So
just
as
long
as
they
know
that
they're
they're
their
input
is
important
to
kind
of
the
success
of
this
group
going
forward.
Jack.
D
Dennis,
this
might
be
getting
into
the
weeds
a
little
bit,
but
I'm
still
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
this
structure.
How
can
you
maybe
speak
to
her
anybody,
Jessica
or
anyone
on
the
committee
speak
to
how
the
Committees,
the
transit
and
active
Transportation
will
develop
their
agendas?
D
Will
it
be
influenced
by
the
multimodal
modal
Transportation
committee,
or
do
they
essentially?
Will
they
be
operating
independently,
I'm,
just
trying
to
figure
out
the
sort
of
structure
in
the
organization
of
how
information
moves
from
one
committee
to
the
other,
and
you
know
just
how
it's
all
pulled
together.
I
know
that
Jessica's
staff
is
doing
a
lot
of
that
work,
so
I,
just
I'm
just
want
to
get
a
better
handle
on
that.
If
there's
any
insight,
yeah.
E
So
the
transit
committee
and
the
new
active
Transportation
committee
would
be
that's
the
only
there
would
be
the
subcommittees
of
the
multimodal
Transportation
Commission
that
we'd
be
going
from
three
subcommittee
to
two
and
I
think
when
there's
typically
when
they're
a
something
that
is
I'll,
say
policy
related
or
emotion,
specific,
cue,
something
that
that
policy
related
or
like
adopting
a
plan
or
something
that
is
maybe
needs
to
go
to
council
or
I,
don't
want
to
say
more
important
but
maybe
elevated
attention,
then
that
is
typically
brought
from
the
subcommittee
to
the
multimodal
commission
and
then
some
in
some
cases.
E
It
goes
on
to
council.
So
I,
don't
know
if
that
answers
your
question,
but
generally
speaking
the
subcommittees
their
their.
E
They
operate
independently
of
each
other,
but
they
are
underneath
the
multimodal
commission
umbrella
and
not
every
single
item
that
each
subcommittee
talks
about
or
might
make
it
up
to
multimodal,
but
more
some
of
those
more
policy
related
one
and
we
tend
to
bring
those
forward.
And
it's
usually
the
committee.
The
subcommittee
makes
a
recommendation
to
bring
it
forward
to
multimodal
commission
for
their
approval
or
further
input.
B
Jessica,
just
to
kind
of
tack
on
you
know,
I
always
feel
like
it's
it's
the
healthiest
when
there's
two-way
communication
going
so
I,
sometimes
you
know
I
always
felt
like
it
was
good.
When
we
would,
there
would
be
something
that
maybe
this
group
would
then
take.
The
representatives
that
were
on
mmtc,
going
to
Greenways
would
bring
something
with
them
for
that
next
meeting
and
then
the
result
of
that
discussion
could
come
back
through
to
us
again.
So
I
think
that
it's
healthiest
when
it's
going
kind
of
both
ways.
B
I
would
do
so
Elise.
H
Thanks
Dennis
I'm,
just
looking
at
the
the
list
of
ex-officio
membership
that
we
have
and
I'm
assuming
these
are.
These
are
the
ex-officio
members
that
were
of
the
two
groups
previously
and
we've
just
put
them
together
and
I'm,
not
sure
the
full
history
of
when
these
two
subcommittees
were
initially
developed.
How
many
years
ago
that
might
have
been
but
I'm
wondering
if
and
Dennis
you
might
have
been
getting
to
this.
H
If
now
is
like
a
good
opportunity
to
engage
with
groups
that
may
have
formed
since
then
that
have
that
have
interest
in
these
areas
and
like
bring
in
some
new
representatives
from
those
groups
as
non-voting
members.
H
Is
that
what
you
were
saying
Dennis
about
maybe
reaching
out
to
some
walking
groups?
Yes,.
B
Definitely
and
one
of
the
a
part
of
these
this
conversation
that
we
had
was
trying
to
you
know
brainstorm.
What
groups,
who
are
we
not,
including
who
are
we
not
hearing
from
you
know,
and
so
there
were
a
couple
of
groups
that
we
wanted
to
reach
out
to
I
like
the
idea
of
having
kind
of
these
ex-official
members,
because
it
really,
you
can
have
a
rotating
seat
to
say
we
are
always
going
to
have
a
pipeline
to
these
folks,
but
I.
Don't
think
by
any
means.
B
Is
it
set
in
stone
on
what
groups
are
there?
And,
of
course
you
know
this
is
kind
of
we
were
kind
of
scraping
these.
You
know
these,
you
know,
pieces
up
and
just
saying
okay,
this
is
what
it
kind
of
is
looking
like,
and
it's
starting
to
look
a
little
bit
like
a
piece
of
pottery,
but
not
quite
there.
Yet
it's
still
just
kind
of
a
clump
of
clay,
so
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
and
certainly
there
are
other
groups
or
anyone's
aware
of
any
other
groups.
G
G
E
Of
them
down
yeah,
so
we
we,
if
we
decide
that,
there's
only
going
to
be
two
representatives
of
mmtc
instead
of
four,
then
you
get
you.
You
have
two
more
to
get
rid
of
well
I,
don't
like
saying
get
rid
of,
but
you
know
what
I
mean
and
then
there's
a
one
person
that
doesn't
live
in
the
city.
I,
don't
know
who
that
is
so,
there's
one
more
person
that
we
would
have
to
volunteer
to
step
off
to
get
to
the
nine.
If
that
makes
sense,.
B
And
this
is
also
kind
of
the
first
cut
here.
We
there
as
I
understand
it.
We
have
not
approached
the
two
groups
yet
with
any
information,
because
we
kind
of
want
to
make
sure
that
this
group
was
on
board
with
some.
You
know
broad
structure
before
we
start
to
you
know
information,
and
it
is
about
making
sure
that
people
are
feeling
included,
but
also
having
a
productive
group.
So
as
Randy
to
Randy's
point
of
you
know,
the
task
force
was
more
about
just
kind
of
showing
up
and
being
a
part
of
it.
B
I
kind
of
feel,
like
a
lot
of
that.
That
Vibe
of
what
was
happening
in
the
task
force
will
continue
in
this
in
this
community
as
well.
This
committee.
G
E
E
G
God,
so
is
it
with
the
balance
of
the
members?
Come
from
the
other
two
current
subcommittees,
the
Green
Lake
committee
and.
B
And
see
who
was
interested
and
then
we
can
kind
of
figure
out
if
there
very
well
could
not
be
it
may
not
be
any
conflict
at
all
and
we
could
just
we
have
the
folks
we
might
have
to
find
you
know
one
or
two
more
folks
to
come
on
to
be
a
part
of
the
group,
so
I
think
once
we
have
that
information
we'll
have
a
better
idea
of
what
the
next
step
might
need
to
be,
but
certainly
we
want
to
make
sure
that
anyone
that's
interested.
B
B
F
D
F
System
like
that
just
seems
Rife,
with,
like
figuring
out
things
later
and
I
guess
I,
just
maybe
maybe
it's
just
my
lens,
but
I
I
just
wondered
if
it
if
it
doesn't
make
more
sense
to
to
consider
when,
when
you
launch
the
new
thing
what
people
have
been
on
and
if
there's
some
sort
of
rolling
expiration
that
maybe
folks
are
already
set
up
in
the
sequence
of
a
three-year
term
and
two
consecutive
terms,
basically
going
ahead
and
sleeting
People
based
on
their
tenure
within
the
new
structure.
E
E
So
if,
if
let's
see
who's
a
who's,
a
good
example.
E
Generally,
everybody's
on
a
three-year
term,
unless
they
yeah,
so
it's
consistent
with
what
every
other
committee
and
commission
is
yeah,
that.
F
B
Just
a
a
little
bit
more
info
here.
What
we're
thinking
about
with
this
is
just
to
make
sure
that
we
have
kind
of
a
natural
turnover
as
the
group
grows,
so
that
we
don't
lose
every
you
know.
We
don't
want
to
appoint
everyone
the
first
day,
one
to
these
three
year
terms,
and
then
three
years
we
you
know,
we
lose
some
folks
and
I
think
we
lose
some
momentum
there
Randy.
C
So
so,
just
again,
the
bike
that
task
force
is
a
task
force,
not
a
committee,
so
no
one's
serving
on
any
term
there,
so
people
will
be
coming
for
the
bike
by
task
force,
aren't
on
any
expiring
terms.
They
just
serve
for
as
long
as
you
want,
and
then
you
well.
E
B
Saw
a
year
and
a
half
term
and
a
half
the
group
three-year
term
just
so,
we
can
maintain
that
rotation
because
I
want
to
like
I
would.
Ideally
we
have
that
rotation
with
each
of
these
groups
coming
in
so
everyone.
You
know
we
kind
of
have
that
ability
to
you
know,
keep
momentum
going
on
all
on
all
sides
of
the
of
the
group.
C
Ready,
okay,
so
yeah
I
mean
ideally
I.
Think
if
we
had
nine
members,
we'd
have
a
three
up
for
term
every
year.
So
then
you'd
have
an
expectation
of
people.
Good
idea,
you
know
ongoing.
That
would
make
it
that'd
be
good
for
the
you
know,
it
might
be
harder
to
start
that
way,
but
once
it
starts
and
it'd
be,
you
know,
for
example,
you
know,
like
I've,
got
one
more
year
left
of
multimodal.
C
So
if
I
was
a
representative
of
multi-mole,
for
example,
and
I
was
that
representative
and
it
would
end
next
year
and
I
wanted
to
stay
in
the
community,
then
I
had
to
be
applying
to
that
committee
specifically
after
that,
and
it
would
start
again.
You
know
that
way
too,
but
yeah
it'd
just
be
nice
to
have
it'd,
be
nice
to
have
three
new
members
every
year
and
instead
of
having
a
half
turnover
or
whatever
two
it
just
it
just
helps
maintain
institutional
knowledge
and
also
provides
new
new
blood.
Everything.
E
Well,
we'll
that
we'll
look
at
I
guess
once
we
figure
out
who
who
thinks
they
still
want
to
do
that's
moving
forward,
then
we'll
look
at
what
they're
are,
what
their
terms
are
and
try
to
work
out?
What's
the
best,
but
ultimately
like
what
will
what
we're
looking
for
is
just
to
establish
like
okay,
the
term
limits
are
going
to
be
the
same
as
every
other
other
group.
The
first
set
of
members
might
be
a
little
wonky
with
their
term,
but
as
people
you
know
vacate
or
decide
they
want
to
resign.
E
So
it
sounds
like
everybody
thinks
nine
is
fine
and
that
having
the
exorcitio
members
carry
forward
sounds
good
and
so
the
next,
the
next
part
is
related,
and
that
is
the
number
of
mmtc
Representatives
that
will
be
on
the
new
committee.
So,
as
you
know,
we've
had
two
people
appointed
to
each
of
the
three,
and
so
the
recommendation
in
this
case
is
to
just
have
two
people
from
the
multimodal
sit
on
the
the
new
committee.
E
So
that
means
essentially
that
two
people
from
multimodal
will
have
to
not
be
on
the
subcommittee
any
longer
and
right
now
we've
got
Randy
Kenny,
Leanna
and
then
Mike
zikowski
has
been
on
Greenways,
but
now
he's
gonna
be
on
multimodal.
So
at
some
point,
I'm
not
saying
you
guys
have
to
do
it
today,
but
it's
it's.
You
do
want
to
stick
with
just
two
people
on
the
committee.
E
Then
you'll
have
to
decide
who's
going
to
step
back,
and
it
could
be
that
you
kind
of
think
about
that
and
when
we
come
forward
with
the
actual
you
know,
documents
to
review
and
approve
it.
It
becomes
official
at
that
point.
B
B
At
large
members
are
welcome
to
attend
any
committee
meetings
at
any
time.
Just
from
the
voting
perspective
that
we're
talking
about
here
and
the
reason
I
think
just
to
give
a
tiny
bit
of
background
was
exactly
what
we
were
talking
about
a
moment
ago,
where,
if
we
bring
that
four
to
two,
it
really
does
open
up
two
more
seats
for
folks
from
the
community
that
can
participate.
B
So
it
really
allows
us
I
think
to
extend
our
reach
a
little
bit
more,
make
sure
we're
getting
as
much
feedback
from
the
public
as
possible
and
then
it'll
still
roll
up
through
the
two
Representatives
up
to
MTC
directly
and
then
indirectly,
through
minutes
and
through
ending
reports
and
all
those
types
of
documents.
F
I
mean
it
seems
pretty
like
an
equitable
approach,
so
unless
there
were
a
change
to
the
number
of
Transit
committee,
folks
represented
I,
think
it's
fair
and
certainly
I
think
even
in
the
introductions
here,
as
we've
experienced,
a
lot
of
our
General
membership
is
interested
in
active
Transportation.
So
I
don't
know
that
yeah
I
think
it's
just
a
change
in
structure
and
it
seems
reasonable.
E
Yeah,
if
we
kept
four
out
of
nine,
then
you're,
essentially
like
repeating
the
multi-modal
commission,
so
I
think
it
makes
sense
and
yeah
so
I
think
those
of
you
that
are
currently
appointed.
If
you
want
to
think
about
that,
maybe
talk
to
amongst
yourself
and
decide
who
might
be
willing
to
step
back
or
step
up,
and
that
would
be
helpful
helpful
for
for
staff
to
kind
of
have
that
figured
out
so
that
we
don't
have
to
make
any
decisions.
E
And
honestly
that
was,
and
then
we've
already
clearly
talked
about
the
term.
So
I
think
that
Dennis
I
think
that
those
were
like
the
major
Point,
there's,
obviously
like
one
of
the
things
we'll
also
have
to
come
up
with
is
like
purpose
statement
and
the
type
the
item
that
will
be
included
in
in
the
bylaws
and
whatnot.
And
so
those
things
we
can
draft
and
we'll
probably
just
pull
from
the
existing
document.
And
we
can
work
with
you
guys
to
to
revise
those
things.
B
K
B
Yeah,
that
sounds
that
sounds
great.
Is
there
any
other
comments
or
questions
on
any
of
this
and
understand
that
this
is
still
you
know,
kind
of
come
together?
Its
final
form
could
very
well
change,
but
without
any
other
common
question
looks
like
we're
asking
for
a
motion
that
is
kind
of
in
that
bottom
bullet
point
there.
If
someone
is
interested
in
making
that
motion.
B
Excellent,
so
motion
can
I
get
a
second.
D
B
A
second
thank
you
Jack,
any
other
comments
or
questions
without
comments.
We
will
do
a
roll
call
vote,
Randy,
Warren,
aye,
Jack,
Eagleman,
hi,
Leanna,
Joyner,
aye,
Bill,
Loftis,.
B
We
might
have
lost
Bill,
maybe
I
saw
Papa,
let's
see
Joe
chessler,
yes,.
H
B
Also
hard
worker
and
I'm
an
I
as
well
motion
carries
thanks
everybody.
Okay.
The
next
item
is
a
Merriman
Avenue,
Road
diet,
project,
update.
E
Okay,
so
I
know
that
there
are
several
several
of
you
I've
heard
from
over
this
last
couple
months
about
the
status
of
the
Merriman
Avenue
Road
diet,
but
also
just
the
resurfacing
of
uf25
in
general,
but
I
think
I
think
most
folk
here,
probably
most
concerned
with
the
road
diet
piece
of
the
project
which,
as
you
know,
a
dull
kind
of
being
done.
E
I
would
say
in
a
in
a
slow
and
steady
manner,
and
we,
you
know,
talk
to
dot,
often
about
the
status
of
the
project
and
there
I've
Heard
lots
of
frustrations
about
how
long
it's
taking.
Why
the
why
the
bike?
Lane
markings
haven't
been
finished,
they're
all
still
being
in
the
roadway
and
so
I've
passed
all
those
concerns
on
to
them,
and
they
told
me
this
morning
that
they
are
planning
to
get
the
pavement
markings
completed
beginning
the
week
of
July,
10th
and
I'm.
E
E
But
my
understanding
is
that
should
resume
July
10th
the
week
of
July
10th
as
soon
as
what
I've
been
told
is
that
as
soon
as
the
bike
lane
markings
have
been
completed,
which
I
believe
the
only
things
that
are
left
are
the
actual
bike,
Lane
assembled
in
some
of
the
locations
haven't
been
done
once
those
have
been
done.
They
say
that
they
will
be
able
to
remove
the
barrel
from
the
bike
lanes
and
that
officially
those
cycling
would
then
be
open.
E
There's
obviously
other
markings
that
need
to
be
completed,
including
crosswalks,
and
this
is
not
just
the
road
diet
section,
but
the
whole
thing.
None
of
the
permanent
pavement
markings
have
been
done
south
of
south
of
I-240
I,
don't
think
so.
E
Other
things
that
are
still
outstanding
include
the
need
for
them
to
reinstall
the
loop
in
the
tasement
for
the
traffic
signal,
and
they
also
have
not
finished
the
re-timing
of
the
traffic
signal
there
are
they
refer
to
it
as
the
optimization
of
the
traffic
signal
so
and
that's
just
for
the
road
diet.
Section
that
those
re-timing
and
optimization
will
take
place
they,
so
they,
and
until
all
of
this
is
done
when
they
get
every
last
piece
finished.
E
So
for
those
of
you
that
maybe
you're
newer,
there's
a
agreement
that
the
city
and
ntdot
have
regarding
the
road
diet
section
and
the
before
and
after
data
collection,
that's
going
to
be
done
and
a
number
of
different
types
of
data
that
are
going
to
be
looked
at
to
determine
you
know
what
the
impacts
or
what
the
positive
and
negative
impact
might
be
from
before
and
after
the
road
diet
would
put
in
place
and
it's
an
18-month
evaluation
period,
but
that
18
month
doesn't
start
until
the
project
has
been
complete.
E
So
this
this
time
that
we've
been
where
they've
been
implementing
it.
But
it's
not
completed
yet
is
the
is
not
part
of
that
18-month
evaluation
period.
So
all
of
that
is
to
say
that
it
has
been
slow
going.
They
recognize
that
and
they
have
been
doing.
You
know
what
they
consider
to
be
the
best
they
can
to
get
the
project
complete,
and
so
that's
the
update
that
I
wanted
to
pass
on
to
you
guys
go.
E
I
I,
honestly,
don't
think
they're
doing
it
on
purpose.
Joe
but
I,
know
I,
know
how
you
feel
I.
J
Just
want
to
go
on
the
record,
so
I,
all
right,
yes,
I
I,
want
to
make
a
request
and
I
realize
I
can't
make
this
request
from
multimodal
nor
from
PCC,
but
I
would
like
to
make
a
request
that
ncdot
has
to
put
out
a
public
service
announcement
about
what
you
just
stated,
which
is
that
the
evaluation
does
not
start
until
this
is
a
hundred
percent
complete
that
there's
an
18-month
evaluation
period
and
that
until
that
is
until
the
Project's
100
complete,
which
it
is
not
yet
and
until
that
evaluation
period
is
done.
J
Then,
then,
and
only
then,
is
any
determination
made,
because
people
are
already
throwing
this
under
the
bus.
The
jury,
the
jury,
the
court,
every
in
the
minds
of
a
lot
of
businesses.
It
has
already
been
decided
and
whether
or
not
ncdot
did
this
on
purpose.
Yeah
work
is
not
getting
done
when
they
said
it's
going
to
be
done
and
it
hasn't
been
the
entire
time
so
I
mean
this
is
the
biggest
CF
that
I've
ever
seen
and
I.
E
Understood
and
I
think
I
think
we
can
work
with
them
on
that
and
I
and
you
know
I
think
even
separately
like
we
have
not
done
probably
enough
to
communicate
either
and
update
our
Communications
about
the
project
as
well.
So
that's
something
that
we
can
improve
and
will
improved,
who
else
Randy.
C
Yeah
thanks
for
the
update
on
it.
One
thing
that
concerns
me
still
is
that
we've
never
seen
a
a
design
plan
for
the
bike
Lanes,
which
we
asked
for
for
over
a
year
now,
even
before
you
know
it
was
starting
to
be
in
design,
because
what
we
see
out
there
now
is
not
anywhere
near
nacto
guidelines,
nowhere
near,
and
so,
if
they're
gonna,
you're
gonna
call
it
done,
and
it's
not
done
according
to
National
standards.
C
That's
an
issue
as
well
and
right
now
it
looks
like
they're,
that's
what
they're
doing
and
since
we
don't
have
any
plans,
we
don't
have
any
idea
of
what,
if
they're,
trying
to
adhere
to
National
standards
and
they
always
default
to
National
standards
anytime,
we
bring
something
up,
they
say
well,
the
National
Standard
is,
or
the
state
standard
is
and
now
they're
building
something
that
doesn't
adhere
to
any
kind
of
standards,
and
so
I'd
like
to
see
that
still
before
they
call
it
done
and
I
would
say
that
we
shouldn't.
E
Just
on
that
note,
so
what
I've
been
told
so
obviously
the
wit,
the
curb
to
curb
width
of
Merriman,
varies
throughout
that
section,
and
the
vehicle
travel
Lane
with
those
are
held
at
a
constant
and
then
the
areas
where
the
bike
lane
is
or
I'll
say.
The
outside
area
is
larger
than
five
six
feet.
E
Their
intention
is
to
keep
the
bike
lane
at
a
constant
risk
and
between
the
bike
lane
and
the
edge
of
pavement
or
the
curb
would
become
buffered
out
that
he
is
expressed,
that
it
should
be
the
opposite
of
that
that
any
time
there's
an
additional
width
that
the
buffer
should
be
between
the
vehicle
Lane
and
the
bike
lane.
E
They
have
expressed
that
that's
not
something
they
can
do.
I,
don't
totally
understand
why
their
design
guidelines
don't
seem
to
really
talk
about
this
issue
and
I
I
wasn't
able
to
find
anything
in
ndot's
guidelines,
but
I
mean
National
guidelines,
you're
correct.
It's
me
it's
clear
that
a
buffer
should
be
a
buffer
between
the
travel
Lane
and
the
cycling.
We've
talked
to
them
about
that
three
four
times
and
haven't
really
been
able
to
change
anybody's
mind.
C
Yeah
thanks
again,
if
we
just
could
see
plans,
you
know
if
they
could
just
show
us
what
they're
deciding.
Then
we
can
just
look
at
the
plans
and
say
well,
here's
what
we
think
is
safest
about
it.
Here's
International
guidelines
versus
what
you're
doing
and
but
as
it
is
now,
we
won't
know
until
it's.
They
say.
Oh
we're
done
and
then
we'll
say
well,
wait
a
minute.
You
know,
and
that
seems
like
that's
again,
not
the
right
time
to
do
that.
It
seems
like
a
year
ago
or
today
is
better
than
then
thanks.
C
Which
seems
ridiculous,
but
yeah.
So
thank
you,
though,
for
continuing
continuing
your
process.
I
know
it's
not
I,
don't
want.
Anybody
should
ever
say
say
that
it's
you
or
the
our
Department
transportation
doing
that,
but
it
just
again
we
you
know,
as
Joseph
hold
the
feet
into
the
fire
to
the
firework.
Just
I
mean
it's
just
responsible.
You
know
right
which
I
know.
That
is
not
an
assumption.
E
Yeah,
don't
disagree
Jack.
D
H
D
Like
Leanna
I've
heard
from
people
who
are
unhappy
with
it,
some
of
it
is
just
you
know,
purely
the
change.
It's
not
how
it
used
to
be,
and
that's
upsetting
but
I'm
wondering
if
there's
any
role,
there's
a
question
for
any
everyone.
I
wonder
if
there's
any
role
the
mmtc
can
be
playing
to
help.
You
know
support
the
city
in
the
implementation
of
a
project
that
makes
human
beings
more
safer
in
our
city,
which
is
a
big
issue
and
I'd
love
to
think
about
ways
that
me.
We.
E
I
yeah,
I
I,
don't
know
it's
a
tricky,
it's
a
tricky
one
I
mean.
Obviously,
when
the
public
meetings
were
happening.
A
lot
of
the
multimodal
commission
participated
in
those
meetings
and
showed
support
there
and
I
think
we
even
made
motions
about
it
back
then,
but
it
also
has
been
a
long
time
since
there's
been
any
conversation
or
any
any
opportunity.
I
got
for
there
to
be
like
the
commission
kind
of
coming
together
and
doing
something
so
I
think
I.
J
I,
don't
know
if
I
don't
know
if
it's
feasible
or
I'm
just
trying
to
see
how
to
phrase
it,
how
much
heartburn
a
legal
department
would
have
if
literally
multimodal
got
behind
an
article
on
the
mountain
Express
talking
about
this
I,
given
my
position,
I'm
not
gonna,
go
writing
it
on
my
own,
because
I
know
just
Janice
would
probably
have
my
head
I,
don't
know
if
it's
worth
maybe
Randy
and
myself
and
Dennis
doing
it
as
public
people.
C
Well,
joy:
every
week,
I
look
in
the
well
I
get
I
get
the
Citizen
Times
the
actual
paper,
the
physical
paper
so
which
was
actually
one
point,
was
really
hard
to
convince
them.
That
I
actually
wanted
that,
but
and
every
week
I
look
Wednesday
and
Sunday
to
see.
If
there's
any
letters
to
the
editor
about
this
because
for
a
while
you
know
we
saw
a
lot
of
them
and
I'd
say
75
or
so
were
anti
or
Diet.
So
so
I'm
always
relieved.
C
Actually,
when
I
don't
see
those
so
I,
it's
kind
of
too
much
sword,
I
think
if
we
did
do
that,
which
isn't
necessarily
a
bad
idea,
because
I
think
we
need
to
do
you
know
it'd
be
great.
C
You
know
until
after
you
know,
some
people
will
afterwards
they'll
say
like
oh
I,
guess
it
worked
out,
fine
or
whatever,
but
anyway
so
I,
just
yeah
I
mean
we.
We
bring
it
up
again
to
the
Public's
consciousness.
Then
people
start
saying
bad
things
about
it
again.
You
know
so
it's
it's
double-edged,
so
I,
it's
a
conundrum
for
sure
and
the
whole
thing
is
and
a
lot
of
it
like
I,
know.
E
Yeah
I
mean
overall
I
would
say
the
even
given
the
current
state
of
the
project,
which
has
been
kind
of
in
the
same
state
for
a
long
time,
the
the
level
of
ire
had
dropped
significantly,
and
you
know
we've
seen
some
Blitz
in
there
like
I,
know
a
group
of
business
owners
that
have
expressed
frustration.
E
So
you
know
I
think
every
bike
project
that
I've
ever
been
a
part
of
has
had
this
period
of
transition,
and
this
is
unfortunately,
then
like
kind
of
a
drawn
out
transition,
because
the
the
way
that
it's
been
rolled
out
but
I
do
think
that
that
things
will
start
will
calm
down
eventually,
I
hope-
and
you
know,
we've
also
got
other
bike
lane
projects
that
we're
going
to
be
continuing
to
bring
forward
right
so
including
College
in
Patton,
which
is,
is
we're
working
kind
of
with
some
of
the
business
owners
right
now
to
resolve
and
try
to
solve
some
issues
and
and
get
you
know,
get
into
a
better
position
to
bring
that
forward
and
have
it
approved.
E
So
this
is
there's
more
more
projects
to
come.
Where
will
have
the
same
kind
of
concern.
E
H
H
You
know
this
whole
situation
here
is
a
very
contentious,
heavily
debated
proposal
initially,
and
it
was
kind
of
like
we
really
needed
this
to
go
exactly
according
to
plan
to
help
get
more
buy-in
from
the
public,
because
there
are
a
huge
number
of
people
out
there
that
until
they
see
this
until
they
see
the
proof
of
better
safety
and
that
the
speeds
aren't
decreased
they're,
just
not
they're
not
going
to
get
on
board
with
it,
and
so
it's
really
disappointing
that
that
it's
rolled
out
the
way
that
it
has,
especially
with
the
other
projects
that
are
similar
that
are
trying
to
like
kind
of
come
in
on
the
coattails
of
it.
H
As
far
as
kind
of
informing
the
public
like
Joe
was
suggesting
I
wonder
if
maybe
just
an
information
piece
that
kind
of
includes
what
you
mentioned
might
be
helpful,
because
I
think
the
last
news,
I
heard
and
I
get
Mountain
Express
I
get
Citizen
Times
I
get
AVL
Watchdog
like
they
get
all
the
things,
and
the
last
piece
that
I
heard
in
the
in
the
news
was
that
the
semi-permanent
Road
markings
were
becoming
not
visible,
and
the
reason
that
they
were
semi-permanent
in
the
first
place
is
because
winter
time
isn't
a
good
isn't
an
appropriate
time
to
do
the
permanent
markings
which
to
me
is
like
well,
then,
why
did
we
start
this
project
in
winter
time?
H
So
yes,
I
I'm
kind
of
at
a
loss
too.
As
far
as
like,
what
can
we
do
to
help
get
people
on
board
with
this
I'm
glad
that
the
evaluation
period
is
not
started
yet,
and
I
really
hope
that
once
it
does
get
complete,
and
hopefully
it
will
be
completed
well
to
the
right
standards
that
we
will
get
the
data
to
demonstrate
to
people
that
this
really
is
safer
for
for
the
people
in
our
community,
and
hopefully
they
also
agree
that
saving
people's
lives
are
worthwhile
for
a
you
know.
I
So
it
was
brought
up
a
couple
times
about
signal,
timings
and
I.
Don't
know
the
whole
history
on
the
project,
but
if
the
construction
is
stretching
out
as
long
as
it
is,
I
find
it
interesting
that
interim
signal
timings
have
not
been
implemented
to
improved
operations
in
the
reduced
section
you've
taken
away
two
lanes,
you
have
less
throughput.
You
need
to
give
those
you
need
to
change
that
signal
timing
and
just
from
my
perspective,
also
just
cord
or
cohesion,
is
really
important
to
operations
and
capacity.
I
So
from
a
traffic
engineer's
perspective,
I
would
say
if
they
could
push
for
some
new
timings
on
the
or
on
the
section,
that's
already
been
improved.
That
could
maybe
appease
some
of
the
business
owners
along
that
stretch.
E
I
I
think
that
they
did
adapt
one
signal,
but
I
can't
tell
you
which
one
and
when
but
I
will
when
we
meet
with
them
again,
we'll
we'll
discuss
that
more
I
know
that
they
want
to
do.
You
know
a
full-fledged
optimization
that
they
also
want
to
make
sure
pigs
take
place
after
they
have
session.
I
E
E
E
I
Yeah,
it's
pretty
common
in
projects
that
involve
signal
changes
to
implement
temporary
timing
plans
for
maintenance
of
traffic,
so
I
would
be
shocked
if
they
hadn't
at
least
considered
this
I
don't
know
if
the
project
was
supposed
to
go
a
lot
faster.
F
I
Out,
but
it's
definitely
something
to
consider
now
that
there's
been
so
much
pushback
and
people
are
upset,
I
mean
I've,
driven
it
at
the
wrong
time.
Since
this
has
started,
and
it's
not
fun,
I
I,
don't
disagree,
so
I
think
you
could
improve
the
throughput
a
little
bit
with
some
new
timings.
That's
it.
E
E
Is
that
right?
Yes,
so
this
this
one,
we
we
keep
plugging
along
slowly,
but
surely
our
transportation,
planner
Haley,
has
been
working
on
this
and
she
has
drafted
a
I'm,
calling
it
kind
of
an
executive
summary
that
summarizes
the
changes
that
we're
making
to
that
original
draft.
E
Since
that
draft
documented
pretty
old
at
this
point
and
what
we're
gonna
do
is
beer
we're
going
to
meet
with
in
July
we're
planning
to
meet
with
various
internal
departments,
to
the
city,
to
just
give
them
an
update
on
where
we're
at
what
we're
going
to
change?
E
Reassure
some
folks
that,
right
now
the
recommendations
are
to
not
Implement
e-cooter
sharing
companies,
but
we
want
to
have
those
conversations
with
like
APD,
legal
and
other
departments
that
that
have
a
relationship
to
this
plan
from
several
years
ago
and
just
get
that
in
front
of
them
first
before
we
push
it
forward
to
to
you
guys
and
counsel
and
I.
What
I
want
to
do
is
bring
that
executive.
Summary
of
the
changes
to
you
guys
and
just
make
sure
you
guys
have
eyes
on
it
and
are
okay.
E
Whatever
everything
we've
changed
before,
we
do
ultimately
take
it
to
council,
so
I'm
hoping
to
have
the
internal
conversations
with
the
Departments
completed
in
July,
and
then
my
goal
would
be
for
August.
We
would
bring
that
revised
draft
Bike
Share
study
back
to
you
guys
for
like
the
final
okay,
even
though
I
know,
you've
already
said,
do
it
get
it
out
of
here.
We
don't
want
to
see
it
again,
I'd
like
to
still
make
sure
that
everybody,
especially
since
we
have
so
many
new
folks
I-
want
to
kind
of
bring
everybody
up
to
speed.
H
At
least
so,
is
this
a
proposal
to
perform
a
study,
or
is
the
study
been
done.
E
So
this
there
was
a
study
started
and
not
completed,
and
it
was
started
in
like
2018
2019
and
it
was
a
study
of
Bike
Share
and
then
feudershare
got
added
to
the
study
kind
of
late
in
the
game,
because
e-scooters
were
becoming
more
commonplace
and
then
we
had
one
of
those
companies
drop
a
bunch
of
scooters
in
Asheville.
So
and
then
the
council
said
we
just
can't
deal
with
this
right
now
the
study
and
paused
it.
So
it's
essentially
a
study.
E
That's
like
four
years
old
now,
a
lot
of
things
have
changed
in
the
industry
and
we
are
trying
to
bring
that
study
back
but
also
update
it
and
make
Bike
Share.
Be
you
guys
hear
me
still
yeah
make
Bike
Share
still
be
be
the
primary
thing
that
we
want
to
move
forward
and
press
pause
on
computers.
H
E
So
we
are
trying
to
re-draft
the
study
and
and
bring
it
up
to
2023
and
change
those
recommendation
and
we're
going
to
bring
all
of
our
internal
departments
up
to
feed
on
it
and
make
sure
they're
good
to
go
with
the
recommendations.
Then
we'll
bring
the
draft
back
to
you
guys
to
approve,
and
then
we
would
take
it
to
council
for
adoption.
E
J
Updated
just
real,
quick,
Jessica
and
I
mean
I
know
you
know
this,
and
this
is
partially
for
because
this
may
or
may
not
come
back
before
I'm
gone
and
at
least
for
the
new
members
that
the
e-scooter
the
revision
on
the
e-scooters.
It's
not
going
to
be
e-scooter
sharing,
but
we
do
still
want
to
get
rid
of
what
is
now
still
a
ban
on
personal
e-scooters
in
the
city,
because
technically
that
is
still
illegal,
even
though
APD
isn't
enforcing
it.
I
still
hate
the
fact
that
it's
technically
illegal,
so
I.
E
Yes,
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
we're
changing
in
the
recommendation
is
that
they,
that
would
be
the
next
step
as
far
as
e-scooters
or
e-device
goes.
That
would
be.
The
next
step
is
to
make
it
not
to
make
it
legal
for
private
people
to
own
their
own
device,
and
then
the
recommendation
is
maybe
someday
if
y'all
want
to
have
e-scooter
share,
we
can
think
about
it
in
the
future,
but
let's
get
with
other
things
done.
First,.
J
You
know
yeah
I
was
about
to
say:
I
was
hoping.
My
last
you
know
day
at
pnz,
I
could
get
arrested.
You
know
going
there
on
a
new
scooter.
C
B
Please
note
the
committee
assignments,
the
July
26th
update
and
our
important
documents.
If
you
have
anything
for
agenda,
of
course,
just
float
it
onto
the
chair
or
Jessica
ratty,
and
we
can
get
things
added
to
the
list,
just
a
real,
quick
without
any
further
comment.
B
This
is
my
last
meeting,
so
thank
you
very
much.
I
was
an
honor
to
serve
with
all
of
you.
I
really
had
a
great
time.
I
enjoyed
all
the
work
that
we
did
so
thanks.
So
much
I
appreciate
it
and
without
other
comment
we
can
take
a
motion
to
adjourn.
C
Yeah
for
sure,
and
normally
when
we
went
in
person,
we
would
make
some
more
public
acknowledgments
and
maybe
even
give
you
something
so
but
let's
virtually
hand
you
appreciation
for
all
the
work
that
you've
been
you've
done
and
you've
been
a
great
chair,
and
we
just
appreciate
in
the
city
appreciates
and
the
citizens
who
don't
even
know
all
the
work
that
we
do
and
you've
done
specifically
should
have
a
sense
of
appreciation
if
they
were
aware
of
it
I'm
sure.
C
B
Sure
I'll
see
you
all
around
the
town,
too
I'm
still
gonna
be
out
there.
My
scooter,
my
bike
and
walking
and
everything
so
thanks.
So
much
I
appreciate
it
all
in
favor
to
adjourn
all
right
all
right.