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B
All
committee
members
and
staff
will
participating
virtually.
We
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
work
through
committee
meetings.
A
bit
differently.
We're
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
Hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
Hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
committee
page.
B
For
those
of
you
who
plan
to
speak
during
our
live
public
comment
today,
you
will
need
to
hit
star
3
to
be
put
in
the
speaker.
Queue
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
committee
members
and
staff
who
are
participating
virtually
for
our
committee
members.
Please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you
are
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak,
click
raise
hand
and
when
recognized
by
the
chair
unmute
your
microphone,
please
remember
to
mute
your
phone
after
you
are
done.
F
B
Brenda
Mills,
director
of
the
equity
and
inclusion
in
the
city
of
Asheville
good
evening,
everyone
Linda
Jones,
Community
engagement,
specialist,
bunco
County
good
evening.
Everybody
Sandra
Kilgore
city
council
liaison.
F
A
B
To
help
our
audience
follow
along
our
state,
each
section
of
the
agenda
allowed
again
I
asked
committee
members
to
click,
raise
hand
and
be
recognized
to
speak.
Please
state
your
name
each
time
you
come
in
just
a
reminder
that
the
public
is
listening
on
the
phone,
and
this
keeps
them
up
to
date
on
the
order
of
the
meeting
and
who
is
coming
or
speaking,
first
up
on
our
agenda,
we
have
the
approval
minutes
of
September
the
8th.
It's
action
needed.
A
Chair
Griffin
you've
got
two
people
with
their
hands
raised,
I'm,
not
sure
if
they're
meant
to
raise
them
or
not
or
if
this
their
hands
are
raised
about
the
matter.
First
was
councilwoman
Kilgore
and
then
commissioner
Mitchell
okay,.
F
But
please
man,
what's
the
mistake?
Thank
you.
A
Miss
Catherine
you're
gonna
have
to
you
have
to
speak.
It
not
raise
your
hands.
Okay,
because
they're,
maybe
people
listening
on
the
phone
all
right.
Thank
you.
So
much
alrighty.
C
D
B
All
right,
so
next
we
have
on
this
on
our
agenda.
The
staff
updates
from
City
liaison
Brenda
Mills
and
County
liaison
Leonard
Jones.
A
As
part
of
my
update,
I
forgot
to
totally
put
on
your
script,
why
don't
we
let
Sherry
introduce
herself
and
where
she
works
and
why
she
joined
the
board?
She
was
appointed
on
Tuesday,
October
11th
by
city
council,
as
your
new
member
Sherry.
E
Yes,
thank
you,
Brenda
I'm,
so
excited
and
honored
to
be
part
of
this
committee
I'm.
Actually,
the
I'm,
the
owner
and
director
of
Go
Local
Asheville,
which
is
an
organization
I,
hope
you've
all
heard
of
it's
an
organization
that
supports
the
local
Independent
Business
community
of
the
greater
Asheville
area.
E
Before
that,
I
was
actually
on
the
steering
committee
and
became
director
last
year
when
franzi
Sharon
had
stepped
down.
So
I
moved
to
Asheville
about
three
and
a
half
years
ago.
Now,
and
my
background
is
working
with
small
businesses
and
startups
and
I
wanted
to
get
involved
in
that
community
and
started
working
as
a
volunteer
with
score
and
Mountain
Biz
works
and
just
getting
to
know
that
community
and
again
that
just
it
dovetailed
so
nicely
into
working
with
Go
Local,
which
is
as
as
I
just
mentioned.
E
Very
small
business,
local
local
business
focused.
So
that's
a
little
bit
about
my
background.
I
lived
in
California
for
about
25
years,
where
I
was
like
I
said:
I
worked
with
with
companies
with
lots
of
startups
and
worked
with
entrepreneurs
who
I
I
love
to
work
with
I
love,
the
energy
of
the
entrepreneurial
community
and
and
Asheville
certainly
has
a
very
robust
entrepreneurial
Community.
Here
too
I'm
just
really
excited
about
working
with
this
committee,
specifically
I,
so
believe
in
in
diversity
in
the
African-American
Community
here,
and
anything
that
we
can
do
that.
E
Helps
that
go
local
can
do
to
help
support
that
and
that
I
can
help
what
I
can
do
to
help
support
that
I
I
I
want
to
be
involved
with.
So
with
that
just
again,
thank
you.
It's
a
it's!
A
great
group
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
to
working
with
all
of
you.
E
D
B
Councilwoman
Kilgore,
did
you
have
your
hand
raised
this?
No
okay,
yeah,
all
right,
so
I
want
to
staff
updates.
G
Okay,
one
thing
I
would
like
to
bring
to
this
committee
is
that
bunco
county
has
a
creative,
Equity
mural
project
that
they
now
just
launched.
So
Buncombe
County
is
looking
for
artists
to
submit
proposals
for
three
spaces
to
promote
racial
Equity,
enhance
cultural
diversity
and
promote
reconciliation
and
Restoration
in
Brooklyn
County.
The
proposals
from
they're
looking
for
proposals
from
Individual
artists
and
or
collaborations
between
artists,
the
three
locations
that
they're
looking
at
is
94
Cox
avenue,
which
is
the
tax
office
building
164
College
Street.
G
That
is
a
proposal.
Mural
is
in
the
parking
deck
walls,
including
walls
at
the
ground
level,
as
well
as
two
walls
on
level
two
through
six
beside
the
stairs
and
they're,
also
looking
at
a
location
on
205,
College
Street,
and
that
is
a
site
on
the
wall
on
the
courthouse
side
of
the
register,
the
Deeds
building
and
so
again
the
theme
is
racial,
Equity
reconciliation
and
restoration.
They're
looking
for
designs
that
reflect
Buckingham,
County's
people
and
its
beauty,
new
artists
and
collaborations
are
encouraged.
G
Submissions
are
due
by
November
the
11th
and
should
be
sent
in
by
mail
and
proposals
should
include
all
of
10
required
elements,
including
our
proposal
costs,
that's
artist,
fees,
materials,
equipment
and
needed
for
insta
installation
and
projected
mural
maintenance
and
repair
expenses.
So
you
can
find
more
information
about
this
project
from
Buncombe
County
at
buffalocounty.org,
Equity
mural,
but
that's
the
campaign,
part
of
sort
of
like
our
racial
Equity
action
plan,
just
to
be
more
diverse
than
the
county,
and
so
we
would
like
to
bring
that
to
group.
G
So
if
you
know
any
artists
or
people
that
want
to
collaborate
to
do
a
potential
to
make
a
proposal
that
is
open
until
November,
the
11th,
and
so
they
have
there
after
looking
for
that
and
another
just
a
reminder
just
from
the
county
is
that
it
is
an
election
season
deadline
to
register
a
vote
is
October.
The
14th
earlier
voting
starts
the
28th,
the
20th
of
November,
the
5th
and
election
day
will
be
on
November
the
8th.
So
we
strongly
encourage
people
to
get
out
there
and
be
registered
to
vote.
B
Thank
you
Leonard.
Next
we
have
councilwoman
Kilgore.
D
B
We're
gonna
move
on
we're
going
to
move
on
to
item
number
four
on
our
list.
Unfinished
business,
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
Brenda.
For
that.
A
I
noticed
all
stuff
on
your
agenda
looks
a
little
bit
confusing,
but
I
think
I
figured
it
out
in
my
head,
so
again:
Brenda
Mills
staff
liaison
for
African-American
Heritage
commission
with
the
city,
and
at
this
point
we
are
almost
full.
We
have
two
things
we
need
to
do
today
and
I
do
appreciate
that
we
have
a
quorum.
Lemon
Michelle
Smith
still
needs
to
be
replaced.
The
county
is
advertising
that
position
so
we'll
have
to
wait
on
them.
A
For
that,
Sherry
has
been
put
on
the
commissioned
to
replace
I,
think
it's
Stephen,
blunt
I,
believe,
and
then
we
have
one
more
position.
We
have
two
more
positions
that
we
need
to
feel
two
of
you,
Brandon
Oliver
and
Michael
Hayes
were
appointed
by
the
commission
and
if
you
are
interested
in
remaining
with
the
commit
because
Brenda's
gone
again
right
he's
off
the
meeting
so,
okay
and
Michael,
would
you
be
interested
in
remaining
on
the
commission.
A
Okay,
cool
and
we'll,
hopefully
they
have
Brandon
back
in
a
minute,
and
then
we
are
advertising
for
one
more
or
several
more
positions.
Getting
more
applications.
I
will
bring
those
to
the
next
meeting
and
then
you
can
choose
the
third
person
so
Sherry
how
it
works
is
the
city
has
three
appointments.
The
county
has
three
and
then
the
commission
picks
three
appointments,
and
so
we
just
haven't
had
enough
applications.
We
just
got
your
one
for
this,
so
we're
so
glad
you
could
join
us.
A
If
you
would
like
chair
Griffin,
you
can
have
someone
make
a
motion
to
approve
Michael
remaining
on
the
commission
and
then,
when
Brandon
gets
back,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
we
hear
him
say
he
would
like
to
remain
with
us
and
then
we'll
have
some
more
applications,
and
hopefully,
in
the
next
month
in
November,
for
you
to
pick
another
person
to
replace
Miss,
Georgia
Shannon,
all.
B
Right,
you
want
to
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
Michael
on
the
commission,
I
like
to.
B
Brandon,
oh
okay,
Catherine.
B
Call
vote.
Sorry,
Brandon,
is
he
back,
you
know
no
Michael.
E
A
So
we'll
wait
till
Brandon
comes
back
and
advise
us
if
he
would
like
to
remain
I'll,
give
him
a
text
and
in
the
meantime
you
can
move
ahead.
B
Okay,
we're
moving
ahead
to
new
business
African-American.
Well,
Brenda
spoke
briefly
about
the
African-American
Heritage
representative
for
the
Juneteenth
celebration.
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
had
a
chance
to
look
over
the
the
packet
but
Ali.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
more
about
that
Brenda?
B
A
This
year
the
city
has
put
out
a
request
for
proposals
for
a
non-profit
to
look
at
providing
that
celebration.
This
coming
June
2023
and
as
part
of
that,
there
is
but
copy
of
the
email.
Sorry
about
that
as
part
of
that
they're
asking
several
boards
to
provide
representatives
of
which
African-American
Heritage
is
won.
A
So
there's
a
there
is
a
valuation
panel
which
will
be
held
on
November
16th
from
10
to
2..
It
is
in
person
and
lunch
will
be
provided
and
then
you'll
be
reviewing.
I'm
assuming
they'll
send
the
responses
out
to
you
in
advance
for
you
to
review,
and
then
we
will.
A
A
Right
I
will
let
them
know
Michael
when
I
I'll,
email
back
the
group,
the
staff,
persons
and
I'll
copy
you
Michael
on
the
email,
okay
and.
B
A
Awesome,
thank
you.
Oh
Brandon
is
back
Brendan.
We
just
previously
with
our
vacancies
you
and
Michael
were
chosen
by
the
commission,
your
commission
appointments
and
at
this
juncture,
would
you
like
to
be
considered
remain
on
the
commission?
If
so,
just
let
it
yay
or
nay,
and
then
we
need
to
vote
to
have
you
remain
or
move
on.
H
I,
don't
know
that's
kind
of
on
the
spot
right
there
do.
I
have
to
I
have
to
yeah
your
name.
Now.
If.
H
Okay,
let
me
Ponder
on
that
for
a
little
bit
all
right.
B
Right
moving
on
next
on
our
agenda,
we
have
Alex
Cole
urban
planner
historic
preservation,
they're
going
to
tell
us
about
the
African-American
Heritage
resource
resource
survey
and
Burton
Street.
A
A
I
Okay,
I'm,
so
sorry
I'm,
it
looks
like
I'm
having
internet
trouble.
So
my
apologies,
but
thank
you.
Everyone
I
appreciate
you
having
me
here
today.
I
know,
I've,
taken
up
a
lot
of
your
time
recently,
so
I
will
try
to
make
my
two
items
updates
to
you
brief
as
I
can,
but
these
are
just
a
couple
of
updates
on
some
projects
that
we've
been
working
on
in
the
planning
and
Urban
Design
department
for
the
last
gosh.
Well,
the
African-American
Heritage
resource
survey.
I
We
started
in
2018
so
we're
finally
getting
across
the
finish
line
and
we're
really
excited
to
present
the
final,
the
final
completion
of
it
to
you
today
so
Brenda.
Are
you
running
the
slides
for
me?
Thank
you.
Okay,
all
right,
just
some
quick
key
takeaways
for
this
project
and
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
so
again.
We
we
started
engaging
the
community
around
the
documentation
of
historic
resources,
specifically
related
to
Africa
African-American
history
back
in
2018
..
This
is
a
first
phase
of
survey.
Work
that
we
need
to
do.
I
If
you
look
at
the
gis
data
for
surveyed
historic
resources
in
our
historically
black
neighborhoods
in
Asheville,
you
can
see
that
there
are
lots
of
holes
in
where
we've
been
done.
Work
survey
work
in
the
past
and
so
generally
speaking,
I
would
say.
Our
programmatic
capabilities
in
terms
of
what
projects
we
can
fund
is
is
a
little
bit
limited,
so
we're
we're
doing
it
in
phases.
So
this
was
a
first,
the
first
phase,
if
you
will
so
so.
I
The
this
the
survey
report
provides
a
detailed
historic
narrative,
African-American
life
and
Asheville
over
the
course
of
our
city
and
communities.
History
and
the
information
that
is
generated
out
of
a
survey
project
can
be
utilized
for
a
historic
designations.
Other
long-range
planning
efforts
as
you'll
see
with
the
Burton
Street
architectural
survey
and
the
reason
we
understood
that
survey.
It
had
had
a
very
specific
purpose
and
it
could
also
inform
other
projects
in
the
community.
I
I
know
Miss,
Mitchell
and
I
met
some
years
ago
when
she
started
her
work
on
African-American,
Heritage
Trail,
and
we
wish
we'd
had
this
work
completed
then,
but
unfortunately,
we
were
just
just
beginning
it,
so
it
can.
It
can
help
out
with
other
projects,
though,
so
we
hope
you'll
you'll
share
this
information
out
with
your
Networks.
I
I
Next
slide,
please
so
I
like
to
start
here
when
I'm
talking
about
architectural
survey,
because
I
work
as
a
in
the
field
of
preservation
and
if
you
don't
architectural
survey
kind
of
sounds
like
a
misnomer.
It's
actually
more
of
an
inventory
of
where
we
go
out
in
the
field
and
we
document
resources
in
the
built
environment
that
are
important
to
our
historic,
our
community's
historic
character
and
that
can
be
buildings
or
structures,
objects,
whole
neighborhoods
or
areas
sites,
and
that's
both
prehistoric
and
historic,
and
usually
it's
in
a
specific
Geographic
or
thematic
area.
I
We
do
this
kind
of
work
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
As
I
mentioned,
it
can
help
inform
other
projects,
but
it
also
helps
us
kind
of
illustrate
and
Elevate
our
Collective
community
history
and
character
and
communicate
that
information
out
so
that
you
know
people
from
outside
our
community
can
also
appreciate.
I
The
history
of
our
community
can
also
help
related
projects,
as
I
mentioned,
and
we
use
this
information
for
a
variety
of
different
reasons
or
in
different
ways.
But
most
often
it's
used
to
identify
resources
that
we
are
interested
in
potentially
pursuing
a
formalized
historic
designation
for
either
on
the
listing
in
the
National
register
of
historic
places,
which
is
the
national
framework.
I
If
you
will
for
historic
designations
and
then
we
also
have
local
designation
capabilities
too,
but
they
they
can
inform
other
projects
that
we
work
on
in
our
department
and
elsewhere
in
the
city
too.
So
great
information
to
have
next
slide.
Please
there's
a
background
on
this:
the
historic
Resources
Commission,
that's
who
I
liaised
to
in
my
work
as
historic
preservation,
program
manager
for
the
city.
They
are
also
a
joint
City,
County
Commission.
So
our
work
is
County
Wide.
I
They
are
given
the
responsibility
by
State
Statute
to
identify
and
document
historic
resources
in
our
community,
but
we
like
to
keep
obviously
this
Commission
in
the
loop
of
our
work,
since
it
obviously
relates
to
to
the
work
that
you
all
are
are
charged
with
as
well
again
based
on
on
GIS
data
back
a
few
years
ago.
I
We
recognize
that
we
really
need
to
focus
on
architectural
surveys
specific
to
our
African-American
neighborhoods,
because
you
can
see
where
there
were
some
holes
and
Survey
work,
just
as
the
FYI
started
in
Earnest
in
the
1970s,
and
there's
been
a
multitude
of
surveys
that
have
occurred
over
the
course
of
our
City's
history,
but
none
of
which
focused
on
a
specific
demographic.
I
So
this
project
was
funded
through
historic
preservation,
fund
Grant
monies,
as
well
as
funding
from
our
department.
So
we
had
a
total
project
budget
of
twenty
five
thousand
two
hundred
dollars,
which
is
not
a
time
when
we're
doing
this
kind
of
work.
So
we
were
able
to
survey
which
is
document
75
resources,
city-wide
and
the
other
product
that
comes
out
of
this
work
is
the
survey
report,
which
is
definitely
the
the
probably
most
Community
user-friendly
product
that
comes
out
of
this
type
of
work.
I
So
we
originally
contracted
with
a
company
out
of
out
of
excuse
me
out
of
Ohio
called
Owen
the
East
Lake
back
in
2019.
To
do
the
first
phase
of
work
there
is,
there
is
a
link.
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
the
second
bullet
point.
If
you,
if
you're
interested
in
looking
at
the
gis
data,
you
can
click
on
that
link
and
it'll.
Take
you
to
the
state,
historic
preservation,
office,
GIS
site,
where
you
can
look
at
the
different
different
resources
that
have
been
documented
across
the
state.
I
Next
slide.
Please-
and
this
is
just
a
screenshot
from
that
same
GIS
site.
This
image
is
also
a
link.
If
you
want
to
click
click
on
it
too.
I
just
wanted
to
include
a
quick
screenshot,
so
you
could
see
where
the
yellow
dots,
those
are
all
the
places
where
we
surveyed
the
blue.
The
blue
areas
are
National,
register,
District
or
listed
properties.
So
you
can
see
that
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
in
terms
of
capturing
all
the
resources
that
we
we
need
to
do
next
slide.
I
Please
so
just
some
more
background
in
Fall
2019,
we
received
the
draft
survey
report.
Unfortunately,
we
felt
like
it
was
not
up
to
the
level
that
we
had
hoped
for.
So
we
went
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
we
contracted
with
a
local
consultant
acne
preservation
services
in
2020
to
make
revisions
to
the
report
it
to
kind
of
put
it
in
a
nice
way.
It
had
to
be
pretty
much
completely
Rewritten,
then
it's
almost
200
pages
long.
I
So
it
was
quite
an
effort
on
the
part
of
this
consultant
to
rewrite
the
report,
and
we
are
super
grateful
because
we
got
to
a
much
better
place
and
finally
have
the
final
survey
report
in
hand
and
are
ready
to
to
publish
it.
So
then
the
other
part
that's
happening.
Simultaneous
to
us
having.
The
final
report
is
that
the
state
historic
preservation
office
staff
is
mapping
all
the
resources
that
we
documented
as
part
of
the
survey
next
slide
please.
I
So
our
next
steps
are
press
release
will
go
out
tomorrow,
announcing
the
completion
of
this
project,
and
that
is
a
link
in
the
report
to
the
final
survey
document.
I
hope
that
everyone
will
read
it.
It's
a
really
wonderfully
written
document.
I
It
was
for
me
personally,
extremely
educational
and
I
I
think
it
can
be
used
by
a
lot
of
different
folks
on
a
lot
of
different
ways
and
and
mainly
I
think
just
educating
ourselves
about
our
our
history,
and
so
what
we
need
to
do
next
is
identify
the
next
area
that
we'll
focus
on
in
survey
of
Africa
African-American
historic
resources.
I
So
we
will
probably
start
working
on
exploring
that
next
year,
as
well
as
funding
options
to
complete
more
of
the
survey
work.
We
need
to
do
next
slide,
please.
This
is
just
a
a
duplicate
slide
of
all
my
key
takeaways.
To
summarize
those
I'm
happy
to
go
back
over
any
of
those
or
I'm
happy
to
move
on
to
answering
questions
that
you
all
might
have.
B
I
B
I
We
didn't
have
anything
like
that
for
this.
We
had
one
for
Walton
history
that
maybe
I
mean
that
obviously
was
not
2018,
so
I'm
a
little
confused,
but
we
we
to
my
knowledge.
We
did
not
publish
a
survey
about
this.
We
did
do
some
Community
engagement
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
project
back
in
2018
2019,
where
we
went,
we
did.
We
had
two
Community
meetings
where
we
invited
folks
from
the
community
to
come
and
talk
to
us
and
ask
questions,
but
we
didn't
really
have
a
at
that
point.
I
Have
a
have
a
need
to
ask
questions
from
the
community
in
terms
of
the
work
we
needed
to
undertake,
but
but
this
again
will
be
the
final
published
document,
the
survey
report
and
it's
like
it
basically
goes
through
and
gives
us
this
really
long.
Historic
narrative,
that's
awesome
to
read,
and
then
it
gives
it
goes
through
individually
by
neighborhoods
and
talks
about
evolution
of
the
neighborhoods,
and
then
it
gives
the
list
of
the
the
historic
resources
that
were
identified
and
documented
as
part
of
this
phase
of
survey.
Where
I
don't
know.
B
Yeah,
it's
it's
on
the
city
website,
but
did
I
I
guess
my
question
is
so
you
guys
had
what
talked
to
people
in
the
community
to
gather
all
this
information
to
put
in
this?
This
is
how
we
know
the
history
of
you
understand
what
I'm.
I
I
Don't
think
that
the
for
the
original
consultant
was
very
successful
in
doing
that,
even
though
that
was
part
of
our
contract
with
him,
I
think
he
only
got
had
interviews
with
three
people
and
those
are
all
on
file
with
the
in
the
archives
at
Pac,
Library,
so
I
think
some
of
that
was
incorporated
into
the
report.
But
we
didn't
have
much
success
in
in
getting
folks
to
sign
up
to
participate
in
oral
interviews
for
this
particular
project.
So
it
was
all
archival
research
which
is
extremely
thorough.
I
E
Alex
Sherry
Lucas
here
just
just
a
quick
question
on
if
you
plan
to
present
this
information.
I
We
will
be,
we
will
be
presenting
to
City
Council
on
Thursday
or
not
Thursday.
What
am
I
saying:
October
25th,
we
haven't
talked
about
going
out
to
do
any
additional
Community
presentations
at
this
point.
To
be
perfectly
honest,
we
are
kind
of
covered
up
at
the
moment
in
our
department.
So
hopefully
we
will
get
to
the
point
where
we
have
some
capacity
to
to
do
that.
But
that's
a
great
question.
I
All
right,
so
this
this
project
came
about
from
it
was
initiated
by
the
Burton
Street
Community
Association,
the
the
our
city
Department
among
others,
has
been
working
pretty
closely
with
the
their
Community
Association
in
recent
years
to
implement
their
neighborhood
plan,
which
was
which
outlines
some
goals
and
strategies
related
to
Neighborhood
preservation
or
like
character
preservation
in
their
neighborhood.
I
It
was
determined
at
some
point
along
the
way
that
the
pattern
book
was
desired
and
what
a
pattern
book
is.
This
is
basically
just
a
tool
that
illustrates
common
building,
typologies,
building
features,
streetscape
elements
Etc
in
a
given
area
to
help
communicate
that
information
out
either
it's
for
design
restrictions
or
just
general
information
to
share
with
people
who
might
be
developing
in
an
area
that
are
interested
in
knowing
about
the
historic
development
and
historic
character
of
a
community.
I
So
this
is
a
more
technical
document
than
the
other
survey
report.
In
that
the
other
survey
report
has
a
historical
narrative,
but
this
particular
document
goes
Street
by
Street.
It
talks
about
the
specific
architectural
styles
that
are
characteristic
of
this
neighborhood
and
features
of
those
styles
that
are
commonly
found
in
the
neighborhood
and
then
also
talks
about
Thomas
streetscape
elements,
and
that
is
again
to
help
us
as
a
city
develop
a
digital
pattern
book
for
them.
So
so
that
is
where
we're
going
with
this
project.
So
that's
why
I
meant
that
it.
I
You
know
this
type
of
work
can
inform
long-range
planning
efforts
which,
which
the
pattern
book
certainly
is
next
slide.
Please
all
right,
so
I'm
gonna
go
over
some
background,
a
quick
timeline
and
again
next
steps
and
then
I'll
answer
whatever
questions
that
you
all
might
have.
I
I
in
the
in
the
I.
Think
the
neighborhoods
need
for
this
or
want
for
this
really
was
generated
out
of
some
instance
of
info.
That's
occurred
in
that
neighborhood
in
recent
years,
and
this
is
related
back
to
specific
goals
and
strategies
that
are
intended
to
mitigate
insensitive
infill
in
their
plan,
that
that
includes
supporting
design
standards
and
policies
that
aim
to
preserve
an
enhanced
neighborhood
character
such
as
Community
design,
recommendations
and
or
a
neighborhood
conservation
overlay.
I
And
then
this
next
slide
is
just
some
representative
examples
of
insensitive,
infill,
I,
guess
insensitive.
You
could
use
a
different
word:
it's
just
not
contextual,
to
the
existing
character
or
the
historic
character
of
Burton
Street,
obviously
much
more
contemporary
and
we're
seeing
this
all
over
Asheville,
so
Burton
Street
is
not
unique
in
that
way.
But
the
next
slide
shows
you
a
few
photos
of
Representative
architectural
styles
that
are
found
in
Burton,
Street
I,
think
the
main
styles
are
Craftsman
ranch
style
and
neoclassical.
I
Revival
next
slide,
please
again
a
Community
Association
partnered
with
our
department
on
this
to
complete,
updated
survey.
I
The
survey
in
that
neighborhood
has
been
updated
quite
a
few
times
over
the
years
because
of
their
proximity
to
I-26,
but
we
we
needed
to
update
the
survey
again
for
this
particular
project
to
do
the
pattern
book
and
that
that
my
house
website
that's
a
link
to
just
an
example,
if
you're
interested
to
example
that
we're
looking
at
as
far
as
modeling
our
digital
pattern
book
for
the
neighborhood
and
again,
the
goal
of
the
pattern
book
is
to
elevate
neighborhood
history
awareness,
obviously
we're
pretty
Limited
in
how
we
can
get
people
to
use
this
this
tool.
I
Most
you
know
single
family
residential
developers
are
not
you
know,
they're,
not
maybe
going
to
pay
attention
to
this,
but
we're
hoping
to
find
ways
to
get
them
to
such
as
connecting
with
real
estate
agencies
and
educating
about
this.
There
are
development
groups
that
single
family
development
groups
that
meet
that
we
are
hoping
to
make
aware
of
this
tool
so
that
we
can
really
try
to
help
Elevate
the
neighborhood
history
awareness
and
again
illustrate
the
common
building
typologies.
I
So
this
project
was
funded
by
the
Community
Association
and
and
some
matching
funding
from
our
department
for
for
a
pretty
small
budget
of
six
thousand
dollars,
but
we
knew
we
could
accomplish
what
we
needed
to
do
with
that
with
that
dollar
amount.
So
next
slide
please.
I
So
we
started
on
this
back
in
2021
when
we
issued
the
RFP
last
spring
and
then
we
contracted
with
snme,
which
is
a
big
Regional
consulting
firm
last
summer,
and
then
we
had
the
we've
had
the
draft
survey
report
for
a
little
while
and
just
finalized
it
during
the
summer
and
then
hopefully
we'll
get
to
work
on
the
pattern
book
at
some
point
here
in
the
near
future
next
slide.
I
So
there
will
be
a
press
release
week
after
next
to
highlight
the
work
and
completion
of
this
project
and
then
we'll
again
work
on
the
pattern
book
and
then
we'll,
hopefully,
do
some
engagement
around
the
pattern
book
to
try
to
get
the
word
out
about
it
next
slide.
Please
summary
again
of
my
key
takeaways
from
this
project
and
the
work
we've
been
doing
and
happy
to
go
back
over
anything
or
answer
questions.
If
anyone
has
anything.
B
Well,
I
I
have
a
question
I'm,
just
I'm,
trying
to
put
this
together.
I
guess:
I'm
I,
don't
know
how
this
is
going
to
help
the
Burt
Street
Community
how's
it
it.
It
helps
us
in
a
sense
of
having
information
about
historical
buildings.
I
I
mean
that's
what
the
goal
is:
I,
don't
know,
you
know
what
the
outcome
will
be,
but
the
goal
is
to
help
illustrate
what
the
common
building
typologies
have
been
historically
in
Burton
Street,
so
that
developers
can
see
that
and
say.
Oh,
this
is
the
neighborhood
history.
This
is
what
was
you
know
here,
originally
or
historically,
and
try
to
give
them
some
appreciation
for
that,
so
that
they
might
be
willing
to
design
new
infill
housing
in
a
more
sensitive
way.
So.
B
I
Insensitive
infill
is
kind
of
what
it's
called
in
planner
lingo,
but
I
guess
you
could
just
say
it's
it's
not
in
context
with
the
historic
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
so
I
think
the
neighborhood
or
I
can't
speak
to
what
what
their
reasons
are.
They
just
have
communicated
to
us
that
this
they
feel
like
this
new
development.
That's
occurring.
I
There
is
out
of
character
with
their
neighborhood
and
they
are
trying
to
work
towards
tools
that
can
help
them
prevent
more
of
that
happening
there,
and
it
we're
a
little
bit
limited
as
a
as
a
municipality
in
terms
of
what
tools
we
have
at
our
disposal
to
help
with
this,
because
we're
very
limited
in
North
Carolina
how
we
can
regulate
single-family
development,
in
particular
in
the
main
way
that
we
do,
that
is
through
a
local,
historic
overlay
District,
but
that
can
come
with
some
cons
that
are
maybe
unwanted
in
some
neighborhoods,
such
as
it
usually
results
in
much
higher
property
taxes.
I
It
usually
results
in
much
higher
costs
to
maintain
buildings
and
structures
within
those
neighborhoods.
It
can
come
with
positives,
obviously
my
preservationist.
So
it's
not
that
we
don't
support
that.
It
just
wasn't
the
tool
that
the
community
wanted.
They
wanted
something
that's
more
like
a
preservation
light.
If
you
will,
that
is,
you
know,
working
towards
the
same
goal,
but
isn't
as
restrictive
as
some
of.
I
And
we're
still
looking
at
the
neighborhood
conservation
overlay
which
to
tell
you
what
that
is,
it's
a
zoning
tool,
but
it
mostly
just
regulates
like
building
setback
and
height
and
those
sorts
of
things
it
doesn't
necessarily
dictate
get
in
the
granule
granule
level,
granular
level
on
like
design
features
like
roof,
Styles
or
architectural
styles.
For
that
matter,
so
we're
just
trying
I
guess
to
answer
your
question:
do
what
we
can
with
the
you.
J
I
It's
to
communicate
out
to
them,
but
I
would
encourage
anyone
to
use
it
because
we,
it
is
going
to
have
information
about
the
historic
about
the
story
of
that
neighborhood
and
its
Evolution,
and
so
it's
it
has
again
like
a
whole
historical
narrative,
like
the
other
project
that
I
just
talked
about,
did
it's
just
it.
You
go
from
that
into
this
very
technical
information
about
this
is
what
this
street
looks
like.
This
is
what
this
street
looks
like,
where
we
don't
do
that
in
the
other
one,
because
we
weren't
the
goal.
J
B
B
I
J
K
Appreciate
this
ability
to
come
talk
to
you
and
I:
oh
we're
good
on
time,
I
was
gonna,
say:
I
am
presenting
at
the
East
End
Valley
Street
neighborhood
association
at
six,
so
I
need
to
be
out
by
5
45,
but
we're
good
okay.
So
you
heard
a
little
bit
from
me,
I
think
a
couple
months
ago
about
us
kickstarting,
the
pack
Square
Plaza
visioning
project.
K
So
we're
talking
about
the
site
where
the
Vance
Monument
was
previous
located,
but
everything
around
the
square
as
well,
and
we're
also
looking
at
physical
and
mental
connections
from
that
area
to
the
block
neighborhood,
which
is
just
next
door
next
slide.
K
So
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
of
this
slide,
but
I
think
the
most
important
thing
to
say
is
that
the
majority
of
this
work
is
going
to
be
focusing
on
community
engagement,
site
analysis,
taking
a
look
around
the
site
and
even
just
looking
at
things
like.
Where
could
you
not
go
if
you
were
in
a
wheelchair,
we'll
also
be
looking
just
at
General
best
practices
and
Urban
Design
that
make
like
what
makes
this
a
place
where
people
want
to
be
and
we'll
be
talking
about
public
Space,
Management
considerations?
K
K
So
this
part
is
important.
This
is
the
the
meat
of
what
the
vision
document
is
going
to
say
in
the
end
as
a
community,
we
are
going
to
have
recommendations
for
the
city
and
county
that
tell
us
what
the
top
issues
are.
Regarding
repurposing,
the
area
where
the
former
Vance
Monument
stood
we're
going
to
have
recommendations
on
how
equity
and
inclusion
could
be
Advanced
on
pack,
Square
itself,
short-term
and
long
term,
so
even
in
advance
of
any
actually
spending
any
real
money.
K
There
word
of
recommendations
that
guide
the
future
design
process
for
Capital
Improvements
to
pack
Square,
including
recommendations
that
tell
us
like
be
how
to
be
realistic
about
the
amount
of
money
that
is
spent
here
to
be
realistic
and
also
thoughtful,
sustainable
and
equitable,
and
then
we'll
have
recommendations
on
what
a
public-private
partnership
to
support
anything
moving
forward
could
look
like,
including
a
public-private
partnership
on
operations
or
management
of
the
area
and,
as
I
mentioned,
recommendations
that
can
help
us
better
connect,
both
physically
and
mentally,
between
pack
square
and
the
block,
which
is
just
around
the
corner.
K
Either
way
you
go
south
or
east.
So
next
slide.
K
This
map
here
shows
you
where
the
former
Vance
Monument
stood
right
there
kind
of
in
the
center
of
of
Asheville,
and
this
is
just
a
general-
it's
not
totally
accurate,
but
it's
a
general
map
that
shows
you
like
the
majority
of
the
public
space
in
around
the
square,
and
this
used
to
be
more
of
a
square
right
because,
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
that
graphic
right
now,
where
it's
open
years
ago,
that's
where
the
Buncombe
County
Courthouse
stood.
K
K
It's
just
really
to
show
you
some
of
the
gateways,
especially
on
Market
Street
and
Eagle
Street,
knowing
that
there
are,
after,
after
speaking,
with
folks,
From,
the
Block,
Community
collaborative
and
others
that
many
people
who
come
and
visit
pack
Square
who
have
money
in
their
pockets
and
are
interested
in
arts
and
culture
and
history
and
all
the
other
things
have
no
idea
how
close
they
are
to
one
of
the
most
important
cultural
institutions
in
North,
Carolina,
the
ymi
and
plenty
of
other
emerging
businesses,
festivals
and
events,
and
so
we
want
to
help
them.
K
K
So
where
we
are
today
is
that
we
are
collecting
people's
feelings
about
pack
Square,
especially
on
this
engagement
portal.
You've
probably
been
to
the
public
input.com
site
before
you
can
just
go
to
publicinput.com,
backslash
pack
square
and
there's
a
short
survey
up.
K
We
are
going
to
constantly
improve
that
that
web
portal
and
that
engagement
site,
so
that
it
is
a
better
way
for
us
to
understand
what
the
community
wants
and
needs.
We
have
a
temporary
public
art
program.
Four
of
those
projects
have
already
gone
up
or
been
displayed
in
the
Square.
They
range
from
a
puppet
show
called
Leah
and
the
rabbit
which
told
the
story
of
an
enslaved
woman
at
the
Vance
birthplace
site,
the
family
home
there.
K
That
was
put
on
twice
the
opening
weekend
on
a
Saturday
to
you
may
have
seen
it's
still
up
on
the
Square,
a
sculpture
that
includes
solid
color
Flash
bags.
That
really
are
meant
to
help
people
think
about
unity
and
what
it
means
to
come
together.
No
matter
what
color,
you
are
we're,
having
a
there's
actually
an
article
in
the
mountain
Express.
If
you
want
to
just
take
a
look
at
that
online
about
this
temporary
public
art
program
and
it
it
lays
out
the
one
of
the
events-
that's
happening
this
weekend.
K
So
you
might
want
to
check
that
out.
We
are
looking
to
engage
with
people
at
community
events,
neighborhood
associations,
and
do
what
we're
calling
five
minute
touch
points.
That's
what
I'm
doing
tonight
at
East
on
Valley
Street
got
some
postcards
I
want
people
to
know
that
if
they
want
a
seat
at
the
table,
they
can
have
it
they
can.
Their
voice
will
be
heard,
so
we're
going
out
and
talking
to
people,
and
we
appreciate
if
you
think
that
we
should
be
coming
to
speak
to
anyone
in
an
organization,
an
association
that
you
are
part
of.
K
This
has
just
changed,
so
we've
changed
this
presentation
and
I'm
sorry
that
these
dates
are
wrong,
but
we
have
decided
it's
not
enough
time
for
the
community
to
be
told
that
we
were
having
special
engagement
events,
November
8th
through
12th.
It's
also
Veterans
Day
weekend.
K
So
we
have
pushed
to
December
1st,
2nd
and
3rd
and
we're
going
to
be
having
eight
Community
meetings
that
are
special
focus
groups,
for
example,
we're
going
to
meet
with
teams
we're
going
to
meet
with
young
professionals,
and
we
are
also
having
one
big
public
meeting
on
the
Saturday
where
we're
asking
the
community
to
come
out,
and
they
will
not
only
be
asked
to
just
give
us
something
in
the
form
of
their
input,
we're
going
to
provide
hot
chocolate,
we're
going
to
have
music
and
we're
going
to
make
it
so
that
there's
a
a
pretty
good
time
and
a
reason
for
you
to
be
there.
K
There
you
go,
there's
that
way
for
you
to
get
into
the
Hub
and
we'll
go
to
the
next
slide.
Next
slide
is
just
a
visual
of
the
four
projects
that
we've
already
had
for
art
in
the
heart
to
date,
which
have
been
an
interesting
way
to
engage
the
community
next
slide.
K
And
as
I
mentioned,
we're
doing
these
five
minute
pitches
or
listening
session
section
sessions,
sorry
there
and
we
will
do
you
know
we
are
interested
in
your
input
on
it.
So
just
let
me
know
and
next
slide,
so
this
December
123
as
I
mentioned.
These
are
the
things
when
I
mentioned
at
the
very
beginning,
like
what
are
we
going
to
get
recommendations
on
in
this
Vision
plan?
K
What
are
we
going
to
end
up
saying
to
city
city
council
and
to
the
county
commissions
it's
at
these
meetings,
where
we
start
really
collecting
that
input
so
that
we
know
what
people
are
getting
and
then
we're
getting
themes
and
we're
gonna
get
a
document
from
our
Consultants,
which
is
the
McAdams
company
that
that
says
back
to
in
our
community
advisory
communities
back
to
the
committee.
This
is
what
we
heard.
K
Is
this:
what
you're
thinking
about
pack
Square
what
it
should
look
like
for
your
kids
in
the
future
next
slide,
and
then
the
meat
here
I
want
to
talk
about.
Is
this
community
advisory
committee?
So
this
community
advisory
committee
is
a
group
that
is
going
to
have
a
c
a
bigger
seat
at
the
table
that
they
can
Pro.
K
They
can
provide
a
little
bit
more
frequent
interaction
with
city
and
county
staff
and
also
with
our
Consultants,
to
see
if
we
are
really
on
track
with
pack
square
right,
so
they're
kind
of
our
consistent
soundboard
throughout
this
process
and
what
we're
doing
is
asking
seven
or
eight
city
and
county
boards
we're
asking
the
chairs
to
field
interest
from
their
members
or
from
themselves
and
and
pick
someone
if
they
can.
K
Who
has
the
time
and
energy
to
be
able
to
serve
on
this
community
in
advisory
committee
and,
what's
in
it,
for
the
commissions,
is
potentially
the
ability
to
leverage
some
of
the
things
that
they
are
interested
in,
whether
it's
the
African-American
Heritage
commission
or
the
downtown
commission,
public
art
and
cultural
commission?
You
all
have
goals.
You
all
have
things
that
you
want
to
see
happen
in
the
community,
and
this
is
the
center
of
Western
North
Carolina.
K
Yes,
that
is
Halloween,
but
this
is
at
noon,
so
you
can
still
be
with
your
kids
or
family
or
answer
your
door
at
noon
and
it's
going
to
be
a
virtual
meeting,
so
we're
trying
to
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
for
the
kickoff
and
then
we'll
meet
three
to
five
times
throughout
the
project.
I'm
thinking
that
it's
really
about
a
10
hour,
commitment
of
Olin
through
now
to
April
30th.
K
So
that's
you
know:
do
you
have
10
hours
between
now
and
April?
30Th
is?
Is
your
question?
So
it
says
again:
the
meeting
is
anticipated
the
kickoff
somewhere
between
October
31st
November,
4th
it's
noon,
October
31st.
We
have
a
link
to
the
role
of
them
of
the
members
there
and
we're
just
asking
you
to
commit
until
April
30th.
K
D
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
also
you
know,
recognize
that
if
we're
talking
we're
talking
looking
at
things
to
Equitable
lens
I,
think
it's
very
important
that
there
are
more
people
from
the
community
that
are
involved
with
you
know,
what's
going
on
and
having
a
and
and
and
give
the
information
now,
because
with
all
of
this
is
going
on,
you
know
you
speak
about
the
block
Community,
but
there
are
so
many
other
people
and
so
many
other
communities
that
have
a
direct.
D
You
know
relationship
with
Eagle,
Market
Street,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
those
who
don't
have
the
history
that
other
people
have
that's
connected.
Even
Market
Street
and
you
know
we'll
talk
about
the
you
know,
Advanced
monument
and
all
of
that
that
we're
trying
to
replace
I
think
getting
information
out
is
going
to
be
important,
that's
one,
but
secondly,
you
know
even
when
we,
even
when
you
look
at
things
that
have
already
been
done.
You
know
how
many
community
members
like
know
about
the
past
projects
that
you've
already
had.
D
You
talked
about
those
four
projects
that
you
already
had
right,
so
so
I
think
it's
important
that
the
African-American
Heritage
commission
is
a
part
of
this
conversation.
But
of
course
that's
for
you
know,
that's
just
me
speaking
personally.
B
Yeah
I,
like
the
idea
of
connecting
Pat
to
the
block,
but
and
also
to
East
End,
and
also
to
the
trail,
that's
going
on
it's
it's
so
much
to
be.
It
has
to
be
connected
to
all
these
birds.
It
has
to
be
connected
to
all
of
these
communities
to
make
it
you
know,
because
all
of
them
are
relevant,
and
you
know
just
this
I
don't
know
I'm
just
saying
you
grab
a
little
little
a
little
bit
more
because
we
mean
we
need
more
connection
than
anything
right
now
so
it'll
be.
B
It
would
be
great
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
connect
with
the
block
connect
with
each
end
and
the
African-American
Heritage
Trail.
Is
you
know
all
these
entities
down
the
south
side
to
Burton
Street?
You
know
the
Shiloh
community,
it
would
be.
It
would
be
great
to
have
that
connect
to
all
because
we
we
are
here
and
our
communities
are
relevant
and
it's
not
just
one
location.
You
know
we
lost
a
lot
so
it'd,
be
it
it'll,
be
great
to
sort
of
just
to
pull
all
of
that
back
out.
B
K
Hey
Catherine
hi,
very
nice
to
to
hear
you
yeah
well,
I
will
talk
to
Brenda
about
this,
but
we
we
are
Brenda
and
I
have
talked
about
this
quite
a
bit.
So
I
think
we
we
we
are
if
you
have
the
capacity
for
it.
If
there
were
three
of
you
that
wanted
to
join
on
this
committee
as
long
as
it's
not
a
quorum
of
your
commission,
we
will
take
you
we
will.
K
We
will
absolutely
do
that
so
I'm,
gonna,
I'm,
gonna,
say
right
now:
we've
got
Catherine
and
Aaron
are
a
definite
yes
by
the
way
Leonard
already
works
on
the
team.
So
we
have
a.
We
have
a
pretty
cool
thing
going
on
and
I'll
just
I'll,
just
put
it
out
there
that
you
guys
can
talk
to
Brenda
or
me
or
the
chair.
If
you
have
any
questions
or
if
more
people
want
to
participate
or
make
suggestions,
the
suggestions
and
comments
that
you
gave
are
excellent
help
for
me.
Right
now,.
K
B
All
right
number:
six!
Next
on
we
have
the
African-American
Heritage
commission
work
plan,
Miss
Mitchell.
C
A
C
Well,
we
have,
in
the
statement
of
the
Commissioners,
are
concerned
with
the
enhancement
of
the
economic,
social,
cultural
and
recreational
lives
of
African
Americans.
Do
we
want
to
include
Health
child
care,
any
other
community
issues
that
are
prevalent
and
involved
organizations
that
are
also
conducting
activities
very
helpful
activities
in
those
other
areas.
A
B
B
A
So
I
will
double
check.
Your
mission
is
given
to
you
by
city
council,
so
I
just
want
to
make
I'll
make
sure
that
if
you
update
it
does
it
need
to
go
back
to
them
or
not.
You
know
you're
a
County,
City
Board,
so
any
changes
structural
changes.
We
would
have
to
check
on
but
I'll
check
on
that.
Okay,
what.
C
I
would
like
for
you
to
check
on
Brenda
is
whether
or
not
we
can
expand
the
definition
of
social
activities
to
include
those
groups.
If,
if
the
entire
mission
statement
has
to
go
back,
can
we
narrow
the
context
so
that
it
does
not
become
a
major
decision
for
either
the
council
or
the
commissioners?
C
A
And
what
what
I'm
just
making
sure
I'm
understanding,
because
what
does
that
mean
for
you
as
a
board,
because,
just
with
the
work
you're
doing
now
in
the
work
plan
that
you
receive
from
Joseph?
That's
a
lot
of
stuff.
A
So
what
does
that
mean
for
you
as
a
board
action?
You
know
future
actions
and
future
work.
C
A
D
I
think
we
should
have
time
to
really
like,
like
iron,
that
out
of
what
we
are
going
to
do,
but
if
that
means,
because
I
think
what
Miss
Mitchell
is
saying,
I
think
that's
kind
of
all
of
us
think
those
are
relevant
issues
that
the
African-American
commission
comparative
commission
can
actually
roll
our
sleeves
up
to
me
apart
as
Miss
as
commissioner
Griffin
brought
up
like
a
lot
of
that
is
directly
correlated
to
to
the
Walton
Street
project.
And
you
know
you
might
ask
how.
D
But
when
we're
talking
the
the
health
and
our
students
like
stepping
through
the
cracks
it's
because
one
of
the
reasons
is
because
of
lack
of
representation.
So
if
there's
lack
of
representation
of
what
they
can
see,
that
is
African-American
owner
that
is
African-American,
Rand
or
that
is
African-American
represent
represented.
Then
then
they
can,
then
they
can
start
seeing
themselves
doing
better
being
better
and
we
can
start
to
provide
that
for
them.
But
until
that
time
and
everything
keeps
getting
taken
away
or
taken
down,
then
that,
but
that's
just
one
reason.
D
So,
there's
a
lot
of
reasons.
Why
I
think
we
should
roll
our
sleeves
up
and
be
a
part
of
looking
at
how
we
can
how
we
can
I,
don't
want
to
say,
change
the
narrative,
but
actually
be
authentic
about
the
narrative,
so
that
we
can
do
authentic
work
instead
of
it
being
like,
like
show
like
Showmanship
performance
work?
Does
that
make
sense.
A
F
That
was
and
I
thought
that
was
when
we
did
The
Retreat
with
Dr
Fox
that
that's
what
we're
actually
trying
to
sort
of
come
up
with
and
and
basically
like
Aaron
was
saying,
I,
I,
I,
don't
know.
I
went
back
to
city
council
during
our
first
meetings
on
this
and
I
went
back
to
talk
to
Brant.
F
The
attorney
I
talked
to
Deborah
Campbell
and
also
about
how
do
we
actually
redefine
after
American
commission
to
actually
cover
to
be
a
part
of
the
community
and
and
basically
at
that
time
they
said
that,
because
we're
in
the
process
of
realigning
the
commissions,
then
we
needed
to
wait
and
see
that
process,
because
it,
you
know
how
it
sort
of
filtered
in.
F
But
since
we're
now
not
doing
that,
then
we're
back
to
the
drawing
board
of
how
do
we
expand
the
commission
and,
like
Aaron,
was
saying
I
looked
at
I'm
sort
of
I
know
some
of
the
mission
statements
that
Dr
Fox
shared
with
us
from
other
different
African-American
commissions,
somewhat
weren't,
more
expansive,
and
what
happens
with
that.
F
It
does
give
us
an
opportunity
with
the
African-American
Heritage
to
be
able
to
be
that
liaison
or
that
connection
between
the
black
community
and
the
City
and
and
that's
important,
with
a
lot
of
with
all
issues
to
some
degree
and
like
Aaron,
said
the
first
thing
you
need
to
do
once
we
redefine
where
we're
going.
The
the
African-American
commission
needs
to
get
out
in
the
community,
and
let
them
know
that.
That's
what
they're
there
for
that
way.
F
They
can
be
the
ears
and
eyes
the
sort
of
come
back
and
sort
of
pull
everything
together
for
the
other
commissions
to
deal
with,
and
the
reason
why
Brenda
I
think
that's
really
important,
because,
like
right
now
we
have
black
three
black
females
on
city
council,
but
years
in
the
future.
We
may
not
have
any.
F
So
we
still
need
to
have
some
kind
of
resource
where
we're
connected
to
being
the
liaison
to
the
city
from
the
black
community,
because
right
now
we've
got
so
many
different
organizations
and
committees
and
everybody's
clamoring
here
and
there,
and
hopefully
the
African-American
Mission
will
be
a
place
where
they
all
can
sort
of
come
and
we
can
bring
it
together.
Does
that
make
sense
and
I
think
that's?
Where
is
that
Aaron
is
happening?
Everybody
said
it
or
is
that
what
you're
all
looking
at.
F
Okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there,
okay,
yeah
I,
had
talked
to
him
about
it
and
they
did
say
Brenda
that
it
was
something
that
we
had
to
once.
We
really
find
it
and
we
take
it
to
council
and
it
probably
will
have
to
be
voted
on.
That's
what
Brad
was
telling
me
so
yeah,
that's
the
way
we
go.
Okay,
thank.
A
So
if
you
could
decide
who
that
committee
would
be
would
be
less
than
a
quorum
of
your
group
right
now.
You
have
seven
members,
so
you
could
have
up
to
three
people
on
that
committee
and
I
think
you
have
Aaron
and
miss
Catherine
and
then
a
third
person
who
might
want
to
work
on
that
and
then
before
we
get
off.
A
This
call
I'd
like
to
look
at
Future
agenda
items,
so
I
think
that
would
be
one
to
hear
back
from
that
Committee
in
30
days,
and
that
doesn't
I
mean
that
that
can
take
up
most
of
your
meeting,
because
you've
got
a
lot
that
you
need
to
discuss.
D
A
Yes,
we
also
will
be
looking
for
other
future
items.
The
vacancy
we
got
one
for
Buncombe
County,
hopefully
we'll
have
some
applications
for
November
that
we
can
vote
on
a
Brandon's
going
to
get
back
to
me
next
week
about
continuing
or
or
not,
and
then
we're
going
to
have
hopefully
have
some
more
applications
I'm
going
to
forward
the
vacancy
thing
through
the
village
Roundtable,
which
is
our
listing
of
African
Americans
in
the
community.
A
Please
get
out
and
support
getting
this
word
out
to
people
about
boards
and
commissions,
because
I
think
it's
it's
important
for
us
to
have
representation,
but
we
got
to
get
it
and
we
got
and
really
when
you
talk
to
people,
they
have
to
be
it's
a
sacrifice
to
volunteer
on
a
board.
It
is.
It
is
a
big
sacrifice.
It's
a
monthly
meeting.
A
You
know
you
want
to
do
other
committee
work,
like
you
heard
tonight,
you're
going
to
be
working
with
pack,
Square
there's.
You
know
representative
being
asked
for
the
Juneteenth
RFP
review.
So
it's
not
all
the
time,
but
it
is,
but
it
is.
It
is
a
sacrifice
of
at
least
two
hours
two
through
two
hours
a
month.
I
would
say
you
guys
are
really
good
about
starting
and
stopping
on
time.
A
So
I'll
get
that
out
to
you
all.
So
if
you
can
support
doing
that
and
then,
if
you
think
of
any
other
items
that
we
that
we
need
to
discuss
and
like
I
said,
we
don't
have
a
chart,
we
don't
have
to
have
a
chock
full
agenda,
because
I
think
discussion
around
the
mission
and
vision
of
your
board
will
be
very
important.
A
Moving
forward
and
and
bring
pay
I
would
say,
take
the
document,
the
summary
document
and
the
one
that
he
provided,
which
I
put
in
your
folder
I'll,
make
a
new
folder
for
next
month's
meeting
and
think
about
what
does
this
look
like?
What
two,
what
three
or
four
things
does
this
look
like
that
you
could
get
started
with
work?
I
guess
just
something
tangible
to
think
about
for
the
future.
So
you
can.
You
know
at
least
get
some
some
Target
that
you
want
to
work
on
all
right.
B
All
right,
next
up
really
do
we
have
anyone
waiting
in
the
public
comment
section.
B
A
B
Gonna
stay
virtual
y'all,
yeah
bro
I
will
now
join
the
meeting
unless
there's
any
objections.