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From YouTube: City Council Meeting, June 10, 2014
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June 10, 2014
Asheville City Council Meeting
A
D
D
It
was
called
run
for
the
wall
and
they
they
coincided
with
with
memorial
day
to
be
at
the
vietnam
memorial,
vietnam
war
memorial
in
washington
on
memorial
day,
and
they
had
a
large
number
of
riders
came
to
asheville
spent
the
night
here,
and
I
went
out
not
really
knowing
what
to
expect.
But
I
got
to
the
asheville
harley-davidson
early
in
the
morning
before
they
set
off
to
washington.
We
were
the
last
leg
of
their
their
run.
Wonderful
group
of
people,
the
artemis,
pile
band,
was
playing.
D
It
was
just
a
special
occasion
and
those
those
guys
were
largely,
I
think,
were
veterans
and
and
were
very
appreciative
of
the
hospitality
that
asheville
harley-davidson
hadn't,
given
them
that
the
city
had
given
them
in
planning
their
trip,
and
they
just
wanted
to
extend
to
us
a
thank
you
and
they
gave
they
had
worked
in
advance
with
with
our
staff
here
to
make
sure
that
this
thing
went
well
and
apparently
they
were
very
pleased
with
what
they
had
and
they
they
told
me
they
were
looking
forward.
It's
an
annual
trip.
D
They
want
to
make
asheville
a
regular
part
of
the
run
and
they
gave
this
plaque
to
the
city
of
asheville.
It
says
run
for
the
wall
presented
the
city
of
asheville
and
grateful
appreciation
for
the
support
shown
to
the
run
for
the
wall,
26,
2014,
board
of
directors,
writers
of
run
for
the
wall,
so
that
was
pretty
cool
in
itself
and
I'll.
Give
that.
D
D
And
one
for
the
guy
that
makes
things
happen
like
this
in
the
city
of
asheville,
john
phillman,
those
of
you
who
don't
know
this
guy
makes
more
things
happen
that
happen
on
our
streets
and
happen
without
disruption
and
people
enjoy
what
he
does
and
he
works
really
hard
to
make
them
happen.
So
they
appreciate
you
so
much.
B
B
And
and
many
of
them
have
earned
scholarships
since
last
june,
the
group
has
completed
26
different
community
service
projects
with
organizations
including
abccm
mana
food
bank,
the
salvation
army,
brother,
wolf
and
habitat
for
humanity,
and
over
the
years
kayla
students
have
contributed
2
800
volunteer
hours
to
our
community.
So
thank
you.
B
And
we're
somewhat
selfishly
motivated
in
providing
this
program
or
assisting
in
providing
this
program,
because
really
what
what
we're
doing
is
helping
shape
the
future
of
asheville
and
the
citizens
that
will
contribute
to
the
future
of
asheville.
That
being
you
all,
so
this
is
really
a
great
investment
for
us
and
we're
excited
to
see
you
blossom
and
grow
and
go
on
to
the
next
thing.
But
we
hope
you
find
your
way
back
to
asheville
eventually
and
continue
to
contribute
to
your
community.
B
B
Okay-
and
I
have
up
here
with
me,
our
interim
superintendent
bobby
short,
who
is
sprinting
to
the
finish
line
here
and
and
the
chair
of
our
board
of
education
as
well.
Jacqueline
hall
with
holland
say
that
right
all
right,
we're
gonna.
We
have
certificates
for
each
one
of
you
and
we'll
see
how
well
you
did
with
your
alphabetizing
first.
I
have
I'm
not
gonna,
say
this
right.
Khan
ajay.
Is
that
right?
Alan?
Can
I
just.
B
B
Now,
you're
in
a
big
circle,
you
are
going
to
be
doing
this
again
friday
night,
where
they
say
your
name,
shake
your
hand,
give
you
a
diploma
and
I'm
going
to
see
you
there
too.
I'm
going
to
be
speaking
to
you.
This
is
really
exciting
and
you
all
seem
especially
happy
and
I'm
sure
it's
because
you're
about
to
graduate
on
friday.
So
this
is
real.
Yes
great!
Do
you
want
to.
F
Say
a
few
words
I
will
say
quickly
as
I
do
every
year,
this
is
the
seventh
actually
some
of
the
time
that
I've
been
honored
to
stand
in
front
of
city,
council
and
the
mayor.
Thank
you
so
much
for
supporting
this
program.
We
have
over
120
students
who
have
been
it
through
the
years
with
a
lot
of
scholarship
money,
a
lot
of
hard
work
and
a
lot
of
dedication
to
our
community.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
supporting
the
program
and
I'm
really
proud.
F
G
H
I
just
like
to
say
on
behalf
of
the
ashford
city
board
of
education
that
we're
proud
of
each
and
one
of
you,
kayla
has
instilled
some
character
traits
in
you
that
you
wouldn't
have
gotten
anywhere.
But
with
this
wonderful
experience,
this
wonderful
internship
and
going
to
all
the
businesses
in
the
community,
including
the
city
of
asheville,
is
life.
Changing.
So
don't
forget
all
the
things
that
you've
learned
and
those
who
will
be
here
for
a
year
or
two
more
keep
doing
well,
and
thank
you
so
much.
B
Okay,
so
I
have
a
final
request
for
all
of
you
if
you
could
stay
to
the
end
of
our
proclamations
and
then
go
because
we're
the
next
thing
on
my
agenda
is
to
honor
one
of
your
classmates
who's
going
to
be
going
to
yale
next
year.
So
so,
if
you'll
stay
for
that-
and
we
might
have
one
more
after
that-
I
can't
remember-
and
then
maybe
do
you
mind
doing-
that
that
won't
take
too
long
all
right
now,
you
can
figure
out
how
to
congratulations.
C
B
B
S
dylan
ripley
center
from
june
24th
to
august
7,
2014
and
whereas
lyanna
is
the
daughter
of
tamiko,
ambrose,
murray
and
scott
murray,
and
she
is
a
member
of
the
national
honor
society
and
she
has
participated
in
the
asheville
high
student
government
association
as
student
body
president
this
year
and
as
the
junior
class.
Vice
president.
B
Last
year
and
whereas
lyanna
is
a
visual
artist
whose
specialty
is
oil,
paint
portraits
and
collage,
and
she
was
a
resident
artist
at
the
little
black
pearl
art
and
design
academy
in
chicago,
and
she
has
had
her
works
displayed
at
the
ymi
cultural
center
and
whereas
lyanna
has
played
a
key
role
in
the
organization
of
the
asheville
prison
books
program
and
plans
to
enter
yale
university.
This
fall
with
a
double
major
in
sociology
and
visual
arts.
C
B
I
B
J
J
And
phyllis
gave
phyllis
gave
me
a
line
a
couple
of
years
ago
when
we
first
started
the
beast
city
here
that
I
have
used
over
and
over
again
to
greet
groups.
We
each
of
us
on
council
gets
a
chance
to
go
out
and
greet
convention
groups
that
come
to
town,
and
this
is
phyllis's
joke,
but
I've
used
it
over
and
over
again,
and
that
is
we're
beer
city,
usa
and
we're
b
city
usa.
Either
way
you
can
get
a
buzz
in
asheville.
K
On
behalf
of
the
bees,
the
butterflies,
the
beetles,
the
hummingbirds,
the
bats
and
the
300
000
species
that
pollinate
our
planet
and
make
it
green
and
feed
us
I'm
here
to
thank
you
for
your
courage
in
becoming
the
first
bee
city,
usa
and
a
lot
of
other
cities
do
think
it's
a
great
idea
and
they're
going
to
join
with
us.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
leadership.
I
brought
schedules
for
pollination
celebration.
I
would
like
to
leave
with
you
and,
and
I
urge
everybody
to
join
us
for
pollination
celebration
check
out.
C
B
A
J
C
B
J
B
L
B
B
All
right,
we've
adopted
the
consent
agenda,
we
are
up
to
presentations
and
reports
and
we
have
a
legislative
update.
That
is
our
only
presentation,
slash
report
from
our
assistant
city
manager,
making
his
second
second
appearance,
paul
featherston,
I'm
going
to
say
that,
like
every
time
making
it
64.
M
M
4Th
the
focus
this
week
is
the
in
the
house,
as
the
budget
they're
focused
almost
exclusively
on
the
budget,
so
speaking
to
jack
today,
our
lobbyist,
he
said
to
expect
really
not
much
other
than
budget
until
next
week,
and
so
we're
going
to
review
with
you
a
couple
of
things:
bills
that
we're
monitoring
monitoring
and
some
bills
that
have
already
been
passed
and
signed
into
law.
Two
significant
ones
that
have
signed
into
law
is
the
energy
monitor
modernization
act
and
that's
basically,
the
hydraulic
frac
fracking
bill.
M
There
was
also
a
provision
in
there
that
would
have
capped
local
revenue,
local
property
tax
revenue,
but
that
was
removed
and
replaced
with
a
study
that
will
come
back
in
2015
and
the
most
significant
bill
is
the
omnibus
tax
law
changes
which
is
a
privileged
license
tax.
So,
as
you
know
that
that
passed
and
has
been
signed
into
law,
the
levy
was
the
ability
ability
to
levy
the
plt
was
repealed.
M
Effective
july
1st
of
2015
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year
can
only
be
levied
on
businesses
with
a
physical
location
within
the
city,
and
it
can
be
levied
only
at
the
2013-14
rate.
So
last
week
there
was
a
number
of
us
who
were
up
at
down
at
raleigh
for
the
town
hall
day
and
meeting
with
the
league.
They
asked
us
to
present
to
our
legislators
some
information
on
the
impact
of
the
plt,
so
that
is
the
information
I'm
sharing
with
you.
The
projected
loss
from
the
state
figures
is
950
thousand
dollars.
M
The
city
of
asheville
believes
that
the
actual
loss
is
about
1.4
million,
based
on
the
950
figure,
though,
which
we
went
for
for
the
league
and
presented
to
our
legislators.
The
impact
would
be
a
property
tax,
equivalent
of
0.85
cents,
85
cents
and
the
property
tax
increase
required
to
replace
the
loss.
Revenue
is
an
increase
of
1.85.
M
And
then
they
also
asked
us
in
three
areas
to
identify
what
the
cost
would
equate
to
in
the
three
areas.
It's
not
combination,
it
is
individuals,
so
this
is
that
they
asked
us
to
quantify
it
from
police
officers,
firefighters
and
miles
of
street.
Paving
the
information
we
provided
was
that
the
total
loss
of
plt
revenue
would
equal
20
police
officers,
which
for
asheville,
would
be
two
special
potentially
something
like
a
two
specialty
units,
such
as
a
downtown
unit
and
the
drug
suppression
unit,
and
how
it
would
look
in
firefighters.
M
M
M
And
then
the
build
regulating
fertilizer
removal,
replacement
and
preservation
of
trees
rumors
are
that
the
legislator.
We
continue
to
hear
the
same
rumor
that
legislators
intend
to
remove
the
trees
from
the
bill,
but
that
it
has
not
happened
yet
I
mean
speaking
to
jack,
there's
also
rumors,
that
the
whole
bill
may
die,
but
nothing
has
happened.
M
And
then
the
etj
zoning,
so
this
is
one
where
it
speaks
to
clarifying
language
on
planning
and
zoning
authority
inside
the
city
limits.
There
was
an
air.
There
was
a
bill
last
year
that
inadvertently,
I
believe,
remove
that
ability.
So
there's
a
proposed
committee
substitute
introduced
to
the
senate
finance
committee
today.
That
would
I'm
sorry.
So,
let's
take
the
first
part.
The
etj
within
the
city
there's
a
correction
in
there
and
then
this
afternoon
there
was
a
proposed
committee
substitute
which
actually
was
introduced
and
adopted
today
to
repeal
the
cra.
M
B
M
M
M
M
So
as
you
you
know,
there
is
a
law
passed
last
year
that
would
transfer
control
of
the
city
water
system
to
the
metropolitan
sewerage
district.
The
city
filed
suit
against
the
state
regarding
that
law
and
yesterday
the
wake
county
superior
court
judge
issued
his
ruling
finding
the
city's
favor
and
the
state
has
30
days
to
appeal.
B
They
had
their
annual
town
hall
day
last
week,
which
is
where
city
councils
and
mayors
from
around
the
state
go
down
to
the
legislature,
spend
some
time
with
the
league
learning
about
different
bills
that
are
pending,
that
could
affect
cities
and
then
each
group
sort
of
breaks
off
and
goes
and
meets
with
their
representatives.
And
so
we
had
a
chance
to
do
that.
B
That
helps
us
with
the
legislative
issues
we
met
with
representative
fisher
representative
moffett,
representative
ramsey,
and
we
were
not
able
to
connect
with
senator
terry
van
dyne,
but
the
senate
wasn't
going
into
the
session
until
that
night,
that
kind
of
an
odd
schedule
and
we
were
able
to
speak
with
them
about
various
issues
that
concerned
asheville
and
other
cities
across
the
state
that
are
currently
pending.
Of
course,
the
privileged
license
tax,
one
of
the
number
one
issues
being
discussed
down
there.
B
It
had
already
been
repealed
by
then
and
then
the
historic
tax
credits,
which
is
important
to
different
cities,
but
very
important
to
asheville
because
of
our
housing
stock.
We
have
so
much
such
such
a
greater
percentage
of
housing
stock
that
qualifies
for
the
historic
tax
credit
than
other
cities
do
and
and
the
film
the
film
tax
credit,
so
that
those
were
some
of
the
items
that
were
discussed.
We
were
assured
that
the
bill
pending
that
had
a
that
stripped
out
city's
abilities
to
regulate
tree
removal,
was
going
to
they.
B
They
were
going
to
remove
that
provision
so
so
as
to
allow
cities
to
continue
to
regulate
tree
removal
and-
and
we
were-
we
were
generally
just
able
to
discuss
those
various
issues.
I
we
did
talk
about
I-26
funding,
which
is
still
a
pending
issue.
Different
segments
of
the
I-26
project
have
been
funded,
but
the
key
piece
which
is
the
jeff
bowen
bridge
part,
is,
I
guess,
up
in
the
air,
is
the
way
to
say
that,
so
that's
still
an
ongoing
discussion.
B
It
was
an
interesting
day.
We
had
quite
a
lively
session
with
all
of
the
council
members
that
were
present
down
there.
Meeting
in
the
legislative
auditorium
before
senator
rucho
and
senator
rucho
is
the
architect
of
tax
reform.
Well,
one
of
the
architects
of
tax
reform
in
north
carolina
and
was
very
much
a
player
in
the
privileged
license
tax
bill,
and
I
guess
I
would
characterize
the
conversation
is
fairly
heated
with
cities
who
are
uniformly
protesting,
the
legislature's
intrusion
into
city
control
and
and
especially
with
regard
to
city
finances.
B
B
And
in
terms
of
the
water,
the
water
lawsuit
we.
What
we
now
know,
of
course,
is
that
the
decision
rendered
by
the
judge
was
very
comprehensive.
It.
It's
not
only
stated
that
the
legislation
was
unconstitutional,
because
it
was
really
a
local
bill,
in
violation
of
the
north
carolina
constitution,
that,
even
if
it
wasn't
an
unconstitutional
local
bill,
that
the
taking
of
the
water
system
was
for
an
improper
purpose
and
that
even
if
the
taking
was
for
a
proper
purpose,
the
city
must
be
compensated.
B
So
the
the
judge
was
very
comprehensive
in
rendering
that
decision
and
and
that
that
is
a
good
thing
for
the
city
of
asheville
and
for
citizens
in
north
carolina.
I
I
think-
and
I
think
that
it
is
a
correction
needed
to
to
help
the
legislature,
understand
their
role
and
their
place
and
their
limitations
on
their
intrusion
into
cities
and
how
cities
govern
themselves.
M
J
In
regard
to
the
water,
this
might
be
the
place
to
interject
that
among
citizens
in
asheville.
I
don't
think
anyone
did
more
to
keep
us
in
touch
with
what
was
going
on
in
the
legislature
than
barry
summers
who,
at
his
own
expense,
traveled
to
raleigh
over
and
over
and
over
again,
to
attend,
obscure
committee
meetings
where
things
were
being
decided
for
us
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
and
I
really
want
to
give
a
heads
up.
You
know,
and
an
applause
really
to
barry
for
his
work.
E
B
All
right
well
good,
I'm
just
going
to
keep
smiling
for
a
while.
Until
I
and
I'll
tell
you,
I
talked
to
a
lot
of
people
on
the
phone
yesterday
and
I
called
barry
okay,
okay,
cause.
I
knew
he
would
be
so
excited,
okay,
all
right.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
we're
down.
I
think
we're
I've
lost
my
agenda.
B
B
N
We
can
do
them,
however.
However,
you
all
want
to
yeah,
okay,
okay,
this
is
just
my
little
update.
I
don't
want
to
go
over
all
the
information
that
you
all
have
already
seen,
and
everybody's
already
got
a
pretty
good
concept
of
our
public
hearing
update
you've
been
through
the
legislative
developments.
I
probably
don't
need
to
revisit
that
at
all
we
have
discussed.
I
know
several
of
you
have
been
involved
in
discussions
about
adding
a
neighborhood
sidewalk
program
to
the
budget
for
15
and
then
going
forward.
N
The
multimodal
transportation
team
recommended
550
000
over
the
next
five
years
within
our
current
cip,
so
that
we
wouldn't
have
to
increase
or
try
to
figure
out.
You
know
what
to
lose
in
the
cip.
What
we
did
was
make
reductions
in
other
project
allocations
and
those
are
here
and
I'm
sorry,
this
slide
is
so
busy.
I
just
wanted
you
to
be
able
to
see
that
we
did
make
some
small
reductions
in
projects
in
each
year
to
get
that
550
in
the
neighborhood
sidewalk
program.
N
J
O
Good
evening
ken
putnam
transportation
department
director
that's
a
very
good
question
and
we're
not
throwing
out
the
old
criteria
at
all,
but
this
would
definitely
define
what
the
neighborhood
sidewalk
program
would
be
compared
to
the
other
sidewalks
that
we
do
and
then
hopefully,
through
the
process
of
the
multi-modal
transportation
plan,
the
consultant
will
be
tasked
with
helping
us
create
a
computer
model
that
we
can
just
put
the
numbers
in
and
it'll
it'll
spit
out
the
projects.
That's
what
we're
trying
to
aim
towards.
P
O
Yes,
for
the,
of
course,
the
way
that
we've
been
reporting
the
numbers
to
you
in
the
past,
as
far
as
what
we've
been
able
to
accomplish,
you
usually
see
a
number
in
the
range
that
averages
around
45
to
48
dollars
in
linear
foot.
Unfortunately,
we
can't
take
that
same
number
and
predict
that's
what
we'll
be
able
to
do
with
a
brand
new
sidewalk.
So
for
planting
purposes,
we
have
to
use
a
number
bare
minimum
of
a
hundred
dollars,
a
linear
foot
on
up,
even
as
high
as
150
a
linear
foot.
O
To
give
you
a
good
example,
the
project
that
we
just
let
on
north
louisiana
avenue,
roughly
a
thousand
feet,
it
came
in
at
126
000,
so
that
translates
into
the
hundred
thousand
a
year
a
thousand
feet,
the
sidewalk.
So
in
the
five
years,
what
we're
showing
here
is
not
even
quite
a
mile.
Almost
a
mile
worth
of
the
sidewalk.
P
O
In
a
pedestrian
master
plan
that
was
approved
in
2004,
there
was
a
section
that
we
call
needed
linkages
and
that's
been
identified
on
that.
We
also
have
taken
that
information
and
put
it
onto
the
gis
system,
so
you
can
see
it
visually
and
most
of
the
a
lot
of
the
needed
linkages
you
find
on
all
of
the
us
highways.
O
You
know
tunnel,
road,
hendersonville,
road,
patton
avenue,
but
then
there's
a
good
number
of
collector
type
streets,
arterial
type
streets
that
also
have
them
new
hall
creek
road
kimberly,
I
mean
the
list
goes
on.
Kenilworth
is
another
one,
so
they're
they're
vital
connections
and
that
plan
identified
that
there
was
a
hundred
miles
of
needed
linkages
out
there.
So
what
staff
has
done
is
a
bare
minimum.
A
C
A
You
know,
as
as
we're
looking
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
prioritize
and
trying
to
create
this
broad,
comprehensive,
interconnected,
multimodal
transportation
network
that
you
know
goes
well
beyond
recreational
uses
to
a
viable
transportation
alternative
for
for
everyone
in
the
city
that
multimodal
transportation
plan
is
intended
to
address
that,
and,
of
course,
sidewalks
are
going
to
be
one
one
piece
of
that.
When
do
we
expect
the
plan.
O
And
that
that's
that's
a
very
good
point,
and
and
I'll
just
emphasize
too
that,
as
you
all
know,
you
approve
the
complete
streets
policy
and
so
part
of
the
the
task
of
the
consultant
is
going
to
be
to
kind
of
create
the
how-to
manual
for
that
policy.
So
that's
that's
very
important
to
emphasize.
The
other
thing
is
right.
Now
we're
in
the
contract
the
contracting
phase
of
that
we've
gone
through
the
selection
process.
We've
narrowed
it
down.
N
N
Okay,
just
a
little
recap
of
the
budget:
this
is
the
2014-15
budget.
All
funds,
our
total
budget
is
a
hun
operating
budget
is
147.5
million.
The
capital
budget
total
is
around
30
million.
Some
of
those
are
duplicated.
The
pay
go
in
the
capital
budget
is
included
in
the
operating
budget
for
a
total
budget
of
166
million.
N
This
is
a
continuation
budget,
it
meets
the
council,
key
goals,
no
tax
rate
increase
and
it
has
our
capital
improvement
program,
and
this
is
where
we
are
today.
My
usual
last
slide
and
we
are
out
of
one
two
three
four:
five:
six
we're
down
to
number
five,
so
we're
almost
done
with
the
budget
process.
J
E
C
R
R
L
I'd
just
like
to
offer
a
comment,
and
that
and
it
this
is
the
most
thorough
engagement
the
city
council
has
had,
at
least
in
my
experience
with
a
annual
budget
cycle.
The
information
provided
by
council
has
been
more
complete
and
more
thorough
and
we're
moving
into
this
phase
of
multi-year
planning.
You
know
barbara
said
it
all
we're
deciding
on
this
month
is
a
single
year
budget
for
the
next
fiscal
year
that
starts
july
1st,
but
we're
being
very
diligent
at
looking
for
additional
years
ahead
around
capital
planning,
which
we
highlighted
and
next
year.
L
B
N
B
So
then,
we'll
just
make
clear
that
we're.
I
will
make
clear
that
we're,
including
that
in
the
public
hearing
all
right
any
other.
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you
barbara.
So
we
will
open
up
the
public
hearing
on
the
budget,
and
this
is
just
a
public
hearing.
Council
will
not
vote
tonight
on
on
the
budget,
but
this
is
an
opportunity
for
citizens
to
provide
comment
to
council
feedback
regarding
the
budget.
S
Mayor
members
of
the
council,
it's
refreshing
that
you
have
a
budget
director
that
made
a
very
good
point:
saving
money
in-house
and
doing
your
own
billing.
I
commend
that
my
problem
is
and
I've
got
the
stormwater
fund,
which
y'all
have
proposed
an
eight
percent
increase.
I
have
copies
here
the
last
six
year
budget.
S
S
Anybody
in
business
knows
you
bring
in
3
million
and
you're
paying
out
2
million
to
your
staff.
There's
a
problem
there.
Now
your
proposal
is
to
add
8
percent
close
to
it
you're
affecting
poor
people
you're
affecting
every
household
out.
Here
you
know:
you're
you're,
elderly
people
on
fixed
incomes.
We've
already
been
hit
one
time.
S
I
would
ask
this
council
not
to
allow
this
tax
to
go
through
until
you've.
Looked
at
your
administrative
costs,
there's
always
been
questions.
I've
had
how
much
money
are
you
really
spending?
I
don't
think
the
public
out.
There
knows
you
need
to
look
at
your
water
bill,
because
that
storm
tax
is
added
on
there,
along
with
three
or
four
other
taxes
that
have
been
added
on
there.
So
not
only
do
you
get
a
water
bill,
you
get
a
water
bill
with
a
bunch
of
added
taxes.
S
Now
this
council
says
they're
not
going
to
raise
taxes
on
your
budget,
but
yet
you
throw
in
little
taxes
here
and
there
and
you've
taxes
quite
a
bit
like
I
said
you
know
you
bring
in
three.
You
pay
out
two
with
your
increase.
You'll
have
an
added
1.6
million
amount
of
money
that
you're
going
to
get
from
the
taxpayers.
S
How
much
have
you
spent?
I
know
as
developers,
you
know
you
put
in
a
shopping
center,
you
put
in
a
grocery
store,
you
put
in
apartments
the
developers
pay
for
that
storm
water.
A
lot
of
this
storm
water
is
being
paid
for
already.
So
I
have
a
huge
problem
with
this.
I
ask
that
you
look
at
it.
I
think
you
have
a
good
budget
person
here.
I
think
she
could
give
you
some
good
answers
and-
and
I
ask
that
you
not
pass
this
on
every
citizen.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
T
T
I
just
live
just
off
charlotte
street
and,
as
you
know,
I'm
concerned
about
neighborhoods
and
I'm
concerned
about
neighborhood
sidewalks
in
particular,
and
I
was
disappointed
to
see
that,
while
it's
nice
that
you
added
500
thousand
dollars,
it
seems
to
me
that
if
you
just
passed
a
a
capital,
improvement
project
budget
and
sold
that
to
the
citizens
of
asheville
that
you
were
going
to
make
substantial
improvements
in
the
infrastructure,
if
all
you
could
come
up
with,
was
five
hundred
thousand
fifty
five
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
over
five
years.
That
is
not
enough.
T
That's
we
just
need.
We
badly
need
the
neighborhoods
badly
need
sidewalks,
but
in
that
budget
you
are
enhancing
existing
sidewalks
on
four
tenths
of
a
mile
on
charlotte
street
for
three
million
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
That
seems
wrong
to
me
as
a
neighbor
of
charlotte
street,
the
charlotte
street
sidewalks
are
in
pretty
good
shape.
The
west
side
is
in
actually
great
shape,
with
the
exception
of
the
telephone
poles
that
we
have
to
work
around,
but
that's
not
unusual
for
city
of
asheville
sidewalks,
the
east
side's
a
little
rougher.
T
T
I
was,
I
was
interested
to
see
if
there
were
accidents
on
charlotte
street
pedestrian
accidents
and
contacted
eddie
your
crime
specialist
and
asked
him
to
look
up
for
the
last
five
years.
Have
there
been,
and
the
answer
is
no,
there
have
been
no
pedestrian
accidents
on
charlotte
street,
the
charlotte
street.
The
pro
the
budget
right
now
refers
to
sidewalk
and
bike
improvements.
T
Now
I
ride
my
bike
virtually
every
day
on
charlotte
street,
I
don't
like
riding
on
streets
where
there's
lots
of
cars.
I
tend
to
ride
up
and
through
town
mountain,
because
it's
quieter.
I
have
no
problem
riding
on
sidewalks
or
I'm
sorry
riding
on
on
this
on
charlotte
street,
because
it's
two
lanes
when
a
car
comes
up
behind
me,
I'm
in
the
right
lane
they
get
in
the
left
lane,
and
it's
not
just
me
who
feels
that
way.
T
The
last
time
there
was
a
public
hearing
regarding
the
last
idea
for
charlotte
street,
not
one
bicyclist
got
up
and
said,
there's
a
problem
on
charlotte
street
with
biking
and
they
didn't,
because
there's
not
so
to
call
this.
A
bike.
Improvement
program
to
me
seems
fallacious.
It's
fine
on
charlotte
street
to
ride
or
bike
now
to
here.
This
list
was
not
generated
by
me.
This
was
generated
actually
by
ken
putnam
and
his
and
the
transportation
department,
as
the
top
needs
for
possible
city
of
asheville
sidewalk
projects.
T
U
U
V
The
support
that
council
has
given
to
providing
writers
with
sunday
service
and
better
service
on
route
c
will
help
to
make
transit
in
our
city
more
effective,
as
the
transit
master
plan
highlights
sunday
service
is
the
number
one
service
that
riders
have
been
requesting,
and
this
service
has
remained
the
most
identified
unmet
transportation
need
by
transit
riders
transit.
2013
survey
revealed
that
50
percent
of
riders
felt
that
sunday
service
was
the
most
needed
improvement
to
transit
and
that
65
of
riders
felt
that
sunday
service
was
a
very
important
transit
system
change.
V
Council's
increased
commitment
to
building
sidewalks
and
funding
transit
shelters
is
also
worthy
of
note.
Your
support
for
these
projects
shows
concern
and
commitment
to
making
our
city
affordable.
Sustainable
and
livable
sidewalks
are
extremely
important
to
transit,
as
they
are
intricately
tied
to
developing
bus
stops
and
shelters
that
are
ada
compliant.
V
V
W
W
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
opportunities
lost
and
maybe
opportunities
missed,
especially
when
we
saw
the
graphics
about
100,
000
on
sidewalks
and
three
and
a
half
million
dollars
on
charlotte
street,
and
then
I
think
about
what
we're
talking
about
and
that's
neighborhood
sidewalks,
particularly
the
north
end.
Just
my
little
part
of
the
world,
the
north
end
of
merriman
avenue
the
corner
of
little
osborne,
road
and
lakeshore.
W
In
the
last,
perhaps
three
years,
they've
been
three
accidents:
two
serious
one
fatal
people
walking
on
the
streets.
People
walk
past
my
house
on
that
hill,
pushing
babies
in
a
stroller
grandma's,
walk
on
that
street
teenagers;
walk
on
that
street
young
couples;
walk
on
that
street
at
night;
a
runner
walks
on
that
street
and
he
climbs
osborne
hill.
W
If
you're
familiar
with
it
behind
fresh
market
with
his
wife
on
his
back
for
exercise
and
puts
her
down
across
the
street
on
the
wall
and
they
go
on,
but
I
think
we
talked
about
b
city
tonight
and
I
think
that
we
should
be
b
city,
capital
b,
capital
e
and
that
should
be
be
neighbors.
You
can't
be
neighbors
if
the
only
way
you
can
see
the
fella
next
door
is
to
go
through
the
hedges,
because
cars
traffic
is
bad,
you
don't
want
to
go
on
the
street,
be
healthy.
W
W
We
looked
at
metrics,
wonderful,
metrics,
we're
taking
you
to
bring
a
consultant
in
and
if
you're
going
to
build
a
bridge
you're
going
to
build
a
skyscraper
if
you're
going
to
build
an
office
building.
If
you're
going
to
program,
500
people
in
an
office
building
metrics
are
great
to
build
a
sidewalk
in
a
neighborhood
area
where
there's
no
sidewalk
right
now,
where
you're
not
worried
about
d.o.t
you're,
not
worried
about
traffic
you're,
not
worried
about
drainage.
W
B
B
Y
Mayor
members
of
the
council,
my
name
is
videla
sadika.
I
have
a
brief
point
just
about
bicycling,
it's
kind
of
a
small
point
in
the
overall
budget.
It
seems
that
you
can
look
through
the
entire
budget
and
and
not
get
a
clear
sense
in
the
transportation
section
how
much
the
city
is
allocating
to
bicycling.
Y
Other
cities
are
doing
this
and
they
say
you
know
we.
Last
year
we
allocated
one
percent.
Now
we're
allocating
one
and
a
half
percent.
This
isn't
this
doesn't
say
anything
about
whether
or
not
we
should
change
how
much
the
city
gives
to
bicycling.
It's
just
to
say,
maybe
there's
a
way
that
we
can
pull
out
the
numbers
for
bicycle
related
projects,
so
that
people
can
understand
what
the
city
is
investing
in
bicycle
infrastructure.
Z
Z
The
city
council
should
be
asking
the
questions
I
ask,
and
if
you
receive
the
same
response
I
got,
I
think
you
would.
It
is
really
a
poor
excuse
for
a
response.
Currently,
the
city
has
no
legal
authority
to
break
the
lease
between
the
city
and
pac
place
without
a
significant
expense
penalty.
Hitch's
response
quote.
Finally,
the
fiscal
impact
of
potential
new
leases
is
unknown,
as
the
city
is
still
in
the
process
of
negotiation.
Z
Z
Z
Z
If
the
city
management
and
the
city
council
can
do
this
with
this
expense,
have
there
been
other
decisions
made
without
showing
an
accounting
trail
that
brings
in
the
question
of
integrity,
council
made
a
big
deal
of
the
art
museum
building
renovations
being
worthy
of
expense
for
economic
development.
Apparently,
this
is
no
longer
a
factor.
The
expense
just
went
to
building
maintenance.
Z
Do
we
now
make
the
assumption
that
the
council
will
not
require
the
art
museum
to
raise
their
capital
funds
in
order
to
obtain
the
2
million,
as
previously
agreed
to
by
the
council,
and
the
2
million
cannot
be
used
for
their
capital
fund?
Drive
jerry
jackson,
city
manager?
Council's
insistence
sent
a
letter
to
pac
place.
Thank
you,
but
any
others
that
would
like
to
speak
to
this
subject.
B
AA
During
that
time,
I
wholeheartedly
support
the
sun,
the
bus
service
and,
in
fact,
just
as
last
sunday,
I
woke
up
and
it
was
raining
in
my
neighborhood
and
I
was
trying
to
decide
how
am
I
going
to
get
to
church
because
bus
service?
Luckily
I
got
there,
but
one
of
the
things
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
support
them
sunday,
bus
service
and
having
walked
all
over
south
asheville
in
the
last
six
months
on
just
about
every
street.
AA
AA
The
kids
in
that
neighborhood
deserve
things
that
they
used
to
have,
and
the
kids
in
that
neighborhood
also
because
the
young
gentleman
asked
me
the
other
day.
He
said,
mr
harris.
What
are
you
going
to
do
for
my
son?
Or
are
you
going
to
do
for
my
son?
What
you
did
for
us
out
of
reed
center
and
I
sort
of
looked
at
him
and
says
I'm
missing
some
pieces
and
that
is
a
gymnasium
at
the
wesley
grant
center.
B
B
B
P
P
P
Our
our
our
riverfront
is
going
to
be
transformed.
The
river
arts
district
is
going
to
be
transformed.
As
a
result
of
this,
we
are
bringing
significant
sidewalks
to
leicester
highway
to
hendersonville
road.
A
lot
of
improvements
will
be
happening
across
our
city
and,
and
I
think
you'll
be
proud
of
the
the
the
you
know,
the
improvements
that
you
see
over
the
next
couple
years.
P
That's
the
streets
that
are
on
that
list
of
80
or
90.
that's
streets
like
state
street
in
west
asheville,
or
bear
creek
road
or
lakeshore
drive.
As
we
heard
about
tonight,
new
hawk
creek
road
johnston,
boulevard
finnish
kennel
worth
road,
beaver
dam,
road,
diver
view
onteora
boulevard,
there's
many
many
streets
in
our
communities
that
we
really
need
to
to
to
have
sidewalks
available
for
the
residents
there.
P
A
fundamental
question
for
me
that
I
would
like
council
to
consider
is
that
we're
we're
considering
a
five-year
capital
improvements
program
of
132
million
dollars,
yet
we're
only
dedicating
about
a
half
a
million
dollars
towards
sidewalks
for
neighborhoods
here
and
and
and
that
that
that's
inadequate
for
for
our
growing
city
here,
there's
a
quote
attributed
to
joe
biden.
That
essentially
says
this.
Don't
tell
me
what
you
value.
Show
me
your
budget
and
I'll.
Tell
you
what
you
value
and
our
budget
right
now
is
inadequate
for
the
needs
for
sidewalks
for
our
community
here.
P
J
J
J
B
Okay-
and
I
would
echo
that
the
stormwater
fee
that
the
city
is
proposing
is
still
far
lower
than
cities
across
the
state,
we're
we're.
We
have
a
low
rate,
but
we
have
a
great
need:
we're
a
little
bit
more
challenged
than
most
cities
in
terms
of
managing
storm
water,
and
you
know,
I
think,
when
some
people
think
about
storm
water
expense.
They
think
about.
A
Councilman
pele's
reference
to
the
values
being
reflected
in
the
budget.
I
just
want
to
say
to
staff
how
grateful
I
am
for
y'all
really
being
able
to
kind
of
collect
where
this
council
is
and
and
have
that
stuff
reflected
in
the
budget,
we're
doing
our
best
to
reflect
those
community
values
in
our
service
on
this
council
and
and
hope
to
see
that
projected
into
the
budget.
A
A
The
main
corridor
sidewalks
that
we're
talking
about
doing
that
three
miles
up
and
down
hendersonville
road
and
going
up
leicester
highway
and
doing
these
really
big
important
pieces.
These
are
going
to
be
transformative
for
people's
lives
in
in
a
lot
of
different
ways
and
then
those
those
arteries
coming
off
of
these
main
corridors
that
are
eventually
going
to
be
able
to
make
this
comprehensive,
multimodal
transportation
network
function
in
the
way
that
we
all
have
envisioned
it
happening.
A
B
B
L
L
E
X
L
A
E
P
E
L
D
Second,
vice
mayor-
may
I
just
say
a
word
of
thanks
to
to
dr
carl
over
the
years.
He's
really
served
a
a
very
admirable
or
done
a
very
admirable
job
on
that
that
board.
In
fact,
they
have
made
great
strides
over
the
years
and
I
think
he's
been
instrumental
in
that
and
it's
a
very
active
board.
They
do
a
lot
of
work
and
appreciate
his
service
there.
Thank
you,
jan.
AA
L
L
L
L
Two
openings,
both
brendan
ross
and
richard
fast,
are
recommended
for
reappointment
to
the
seats
they
currently
hold.
Second,
any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
aye
aye
opposed
no
one
multimodal
transportation.
Commission
there's
been
some
dialogue
with
the
commission
over
the
process
of
appointment
and
in
this
commission
is
one
year
old
and
we,
when
we
created
it
a
year
ago,
we
we
kind
of
agreed
that
we
would
have
this
conversation
about
now
about
the
appointment
process.
L
So
that's
underway,
and
we,
the
committee,
recommends
that
we
take
no
action
tonight
as
we
continue
to
sort
through
this
with
staff
neighborhood
advisory
committee.
We
have
four
appointments
seats
to
appoint
the
committee.
Rep
recommends
that
we
reappoint
bob
ropenak,
barber,
melton
and
elaine
poovey
to
the
seats
that
they
currently
hold
and
further
that
we
appoint
teddy
jordan
to
the
fourth
seat.
L
L
X
L
L
C
L
C
L
Any
question
or
comment:
this
was
not
on
the
agenda
council
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
understand.
What's
going
on
here
is
fairly
simple.
The
mayor
is
very
busy
has
been
been
strained
to
make
these
appointments.
Jan
is
very
interested.
He's
got
a
lot
of
experience
in
helping
create
and
represent
the
city
on
this
commission.
So
that's
the
basis
for
our
action.
Z
L
B
All
right.
That
concludes
our
business.
I
do
have
some
sign
up
sheets
for
public
comment.
The
first
one
is
ken
michael
evan.
I
think
I
saw
him
leave
so
not
not
here.
Okay,
the
second
one
is
well.
The
last
name
is
rosenthal
the
first
name.
I
can't
read
very
well
genie,
gene
genie,
please,
each
speaker
is
allowed
three
minutes
during
public
comment.
AC
AC
But
before
I
get
started
with
any
of
that,
I
just
wanted
to
say
a
big
thank
you.
I
I
don't
know
if
it
goes
to
council
or
or
who
this
actually
goes
towards.
I
know
for
myself:
it's
not
just
a
statistic:
it's
an
actual
real
life
event
when,
in
2008
the
banks
crashed
the
economy
and
people
lost
lifelong,
steady
employment,
and
I
know
for
myself.
AC
I
ended
up
here
in
asheville
during
the
primary
elections
and
during
all
that
time-
and
I
don't
know
how
long
before
that
there
was
that
terrible,
terrible
eyesore
across
from
the
library,
civic
center
and
and
the
basilica,
and
I
don't
know
who's
responsible
for
taking
that
thing,
that
thing
down
and
now
it's
so
much
cleaner
and
nicer
whoever's
involved
in
that.
Thank
you.
It
certainly
is
a
huge
improvement.
AC
I
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
give
a
status
update
on
some
of
the
things
I've
talked
about
in
the
past,
where
the
company
called
partnership.
Property
management
had
put
out
this
article
in
the
actual
citizens
times
back
in
on
veterans
day,
and
they
still
this
whole
thing
that
they
had
trumpeted
their
company
on
they
were.
They
were
saying
they
were
going
to
just
have
non-smoking
buildings
for
low-income
housing.
They
were
going
to
make
the
people
move
25
feet
away
from
the
building.
AC
That
still
hasn't
happened
since
past
veterans
day
and
instead,
what
they're
doing
is
they?
Finally,
let
people
go
back
to
smoking
in
the
outdoor
designated
smoking
area?
I
wish
they
had
done
that
from
the
beginning,
including
the
electronic
cigarettes.
So
there
wouldn't
have
been
a
problem.
We
would
have
had
the
no
smoking
billings
like
we
had
before,
but
now
we
still
have
people
smoking,
just
right
up
against
the
building,
they're,
not
25
feet
away
and
pat
shelton
she's,
the
regional
manager
for
partnership,
property
management.
AC
AC
Q
Q
I
thought
I'd
take
advantage
of
that
opportunity
and
that
this
has
to
do
with
some
situation.
That's
been
going
on.
I
guess
for
about
eight
and
a
half
years,
as
I
now
find
out
very
recently
found
is
still
going
on
regarding
76
land
vale
avenue
in
west
asheville,
and
it
is
a
place
that
my
son
owns
and
I
oversee
if
it
matters
have
an
indirect
but
not
on
the
surface
legal
involvement
in
as
far
as
ownership.
But
I
am
the
one
who
has
been
speaking
permits.
That's
been
exp,
accepted
and
probably
legal.
AC
Q
So
I
decided
to
do
some
investigation
found
the
list.
Pendants
couldn't
find
any
place
where
anybody
even
claimed.
Well,
perhaps
they
had
claimed
that
it
was
served.
He
asked
for
proof
that
my
son
was
even
it
was
any
attempt
to
or
that
he
was
aware
of
the
list
pendants
and
couldn't
get
that
when
I
asked
the
legal
department
he
was
told
that
the
papers
were
in
here
in
the
whatever
of
the
co-department
the
co-department
is,
I
guess
you
realize
I
guess
it's
this
fellow
case.
Q
I
believe
I'm
not
good
at
the
names
and
he's
been
out.
Thank
you
all
right.
My
real
request
here
is
simply,
could
I
please
get
an
answer
find
out
if
they've
been
served,
you're
holding
up
my
son's
ability
to
get
back
a
roughly
300
000
and
it's
either
court
or
we
get
some
answer
from
the
various
departments,
mainly
the
legal
department.
Thank
you.
B
C
V
Good
evening,
everyone-
I
was
here
before
speaking
as
the
vice
chair
of
the
transit
committee,
but
I
wanted
to
take
the
time
to
to
thank
you
personally,
as
a
just
a
citizen
of
asheville
resident
here
with
the
sunday
service,
the
route
see
and
the
commitments
that
have
been
made.
I
am
wholly
reliant
on
public
transportation
to
to
do
everything
I
don't
have
a
vehicle,
and
you
know
we've
been
talking
about
sunday
service
since,
since
I
got
here
about
almost
four
years
ago,
it's
been
a
conversation
and
to
to
be
a
part
of
this
movement.
V
That's
happening
in
asheville,
where
you
know
not
only
the
residents,
but
what
council
being
supportive
of
or
and
listening
to
what
the
community
needs,
and
I
really
feel
that
that's
important
to
thank
everyone
for,
because
that's
not
always
the
case,
and
I
really
feel
that
it's
it's
transformative
in
regards
to
community-
and
I
just
wanted
to
take
the
time
to
come
up
here
again
and
just
thank
you
just
as
little
owe
me
ethiopia.
Thank
you.
B
AD
Good
evening,
city
council,
my
name
is
timothy
sadler,
and
I
wanted
to
congratulate
and
thank
you
specifically
mayor
manheimer,
on
your
work
with
the
water
issue,
and
I
know
that
it's
not
a
done
deal
yet,
but
the
the
courage
and
tenacity
shown
throughout
the
process
by
the
city,
council
and
also
the
citizens
really
I
just
you
know
I.
This
is
the
proudest
I've
been
since
I
I've
lived
here
and
just
really
think
it's
going
to
go
down.
AD
You
know
in
in
the
history
of
the
city
is
one
of
the
the
most
important
events
and
also
you
know,
creates
and
sets
the
the
precedent
for
other
municipalities
and
cities
that
might
have
to
go
through
similar
things.
You
know
in
the
courts
and
it's
just
really
a
great
great
day
here
in
nashville,
I'm
also
I'm.
You
know
curious,
I'm
personally
curious
as
to
how
many
hours
how
many
employee
hours
went
into
the
establishment
of
the
cr,
the
cra
and
also
this
water
fight.
AD
AD
B
A
D
D
The
building
is
near
completion
and
green
opportunities
is
using
that
as
an
opportunity
to
to
bring
people
in
and
to
show
everyone
what
we
have
there
and
I
think
it's
noteworthy
and
those
folks
at
home,
watching
television,
hope
you'll,
take
the
public's
invite
to
come
over
and
it's
it's.
It's
a
good
good
opportunity
for
green
opportunities.