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B
C
B
B
And
it's
a
it's
a
pity
that
I
I
cannot
I'm
not
as
good
in
english
as
in
spanish,
but
trust
me
you're
good
enough,
but
yeah
like
I
like
to
be
joking,
all
the
time
janice
knows
better
yeah.
He
knows
me
well
now,
where.
E
E
B
E
B
E
To
portugal
awesome
awesome,
but
it's
actually
my
first
meeting
today,
I'm
based
in
cape
town.
B
Cape
town,
okay,
okay,
okay,
I
was,
I
was
expecting
the
name
of
country
and
I
was
like
okay,
which
country
is
this
one.
B
Having
to
go
back
to,
I
need
to
get
back
to
geography
right.
E
B
E
B
This
this
one
yeah,
I
know
this
one
precisely
from
twitter
as
well
so
yeah
people
when
people
want
to
reply.
When
people
ask
stupid
questions
and
then
it's
like,
let
me
google,
that
for
you
and
they
send
this
link,
which
is
a
link
to
a
google
search.
I
love
it.
B
B
No
problem,
I
also
have
a
baby
right
about
here.
So
let's
just
quiet
now
so
but
just
in
case
yeah.
B
B
B
All
right,
first
of
all,
apologies
for
not
being
lucas,
so
lucas
usually
knows
how
to
run
these
meetings.
It's
been
a
lot.
It's
been
a
while.
I
don't
run
any
community
meeting,
but
from
time
to
time
you
know
he
has
to
take
some
time
off,
yeah
and
and
yeah,
so
he
has
to
get
some
rest,
so
so
yeah
I'm
doing
this
today,
so
jonas
you're
usually
joining
all
the
meetings.
B
So
please,
if
you
have
to
jump
in
and
correct
me
about
something
I
mean
not
just
you
anyone
else
but
feel
free,
because
yeah,
it's
been
a
long
time.
First
of
all,
let's
get
to
the
agenda
to
this
packed
agenda,
as
as
I
was
telling
jonas,
that.
B
G
G
B
So,
honestly,
myself
and
I
have
an
idea
but
jonas,
I
know
that
you're
involved
in
the
conversation.
So
maybe
you
want
to
say
something.
D
It's
one
of
those
difficult
issues
because,
like
the
anonymous
id
this
that
is
given
by
the
parser
is
kind
of
like
a
backup,
because
rarely
they
are
ever
given
a
specific
id,
but
you
kind
of
need
it
in
code
generation
in
order
to
generate
anything.
D
You
cannot
rely
on
the
specific
structure
of
the
json
schema
document
to
generate
the
ids,
because
that
structure
could
change,
but
the
underlying
structure
of
the
data
does
not,
if
that
make
sense,
which
means
that
I
at
some
point
in
the
past,
I
tried
to
fix
this
by
doing
exactly
what
I
think
you
want
to
do
in
terms
of
naming
the
structure
or
the
what's.
It
called
like.
D
G
G
D
B
And
I
was
just
wondering
like
the
anonymous
id
starts
with
x,
dash
or
something
like
that
or
not.
C
B
Yeah
and
and
the
other
one
could
be
that
we
make
the
anonymous
ideas
to
start
with
something
I
don't
know
like.
That's
id
that's
generated
or
something
like
that,
so
you
can
easily
filter
them
right
like
something
obvious
that
nobody
will
use,
and
then
you
can
just
filter
them
and
if
an
id
is
starting
by
passed
as
generated,
then
you
know
that
you
can
simply
skip
this
one.
It's
not.
G
Would
not
work
in
my
use
case
because
I
target
modelina
with,
let
me
generate
java
classes
and
java
classes
are
not
allowed
to
start
with
their
stash.
Then
you
have
to
choose
some
word
or
something
like
this
like
yeah,
if
you
say
all
them
all
generated,
I
don't
know.
If
that's
a
good
idea,
if
you
are
the
api
consumer,
you
want
to
have
speaking
class
names.
B
Yes,
but
what
I
meant
is
precisely
like
you
don't
so
this
once
will
be
ignored
by
modeling
completely
right
like
if
it
starts
by
death,
that's
generated
or
something
like
that.
Then
modeling
will
simply
ignore
them
and
will
not
generate
that.
G
B
D
G
D
Yeah
I
can,
I
can
see
you
have
it
in
your
own
fork,
so
it's
there
as
com
commits,
so
I
think
yeah
you
want
to
review.
G
It
now
you
can
yeah
just
see
it
in
my
own
repository,
I
will
open
requests
as
soon
as
possible.
Maybe
tomorrow.
B
G
The
next
issue
I
have
is
about
request
reply,
but
I
don't
know
how
to
progress
here,
because
here's
someone
else
the
how
you
call
it
master
or
driver
of
this
issue,
but
you're
not
really
making
any
progress
or
is
very
responsive.
D
Putting
yeah
it's
definitely
missing
a
champion.
I
think
that's
what
you
were
looking
for.
G
D
Yeah
and
if
you
do,
if
he
doesn't
get
back
to
you
after
you
ping
him
like
the
current
champion,
just
continue
doing
your
thing.
Just
keep
moving
forward
and
the
same
with.
Would
if
you
want
a
specific
meeting
just
for
request,
reply
and
discussing
that
just
ping
us
with
this
specific
suggested
time
and
date,
because
then
we
can
set
up
the
meeting
with
live
stream
and
everything
completely
automatic.
The
same
way
that
these
meetings
function.
B
And
just
to
mention
something
about
request
response
issue,
we
may
have
to
think
if
it's,
if
it
will
be
a
good
idea
to
just
postpone
it
for
version
3
right
for
version
3
of
the
spec,
since
we're
working
on
version
3
now
such
a
huge
feature
might
might
be
good
to
land
to
land
it
on
version
3
which,
because
right
now,
as
as
it
is
on
version
two
as
we
have
published
and
subscribe
meanings
version
two
and
it's
a
little
bit
weird,
to
do
anything
related
to
request
response.
G
B
I
mean,
let's
just
have
the
conversation
on
the
on
the
pull
request,
because
it's
not
just
our
opinion
here,
but
everyone
in
the
community
right
so
so
yeah
just
leaving
the
thought
here
that
maybe
I'll
I'll
write
my
my
opinion
as
well
there
that
maybe
this
is
something
that
we
should
be
postponing
we
we
thought
we
could
have
this
last
year
last
summer,
but
since
it's
been
delayed,
then
probably
it's
not
worth
moving
it
forward,
because
we're
gonna
be
in
summer
really
soon
and
then
summer
it
will
be
stuck
again
and
because
people
are
on
holidays
and
so
on
so
and
then
after
summer
we
should
be
really
close
to
releasing
version
three
version
three,
so
we
should
so
so
probably
makes
sense
and
also
it.
B
It
will
be
a
really
good
selling
point
for
users
to
move
to
to
migrate,
to
version
three
right,
a
a
good,
not
selling
point.
I
don't
like
to
say
selling
point,
but
you
know
like
a
good
motivator
right,
so
people
don't
just
migrate
to
version
3,
because
now
publish
and
subscribe
have
different
meaning,
and
now
we
have
send
receive
or
something
like
that,
because
people
will
not
care
about
this.
But
if
they
get
some
serious
feature
like
request
response
then
might
be
worth
moving
to
version
three
right,
so
so
yeah
and
yeah.
B
We
should
try
to
keep
moving
as
much
as
possible.
Otherwise
we'll
have
to
maintain
version
2
for
many
years.
D
D
B
All
right,
that's
not
the
issue
this
one.
F
I
just
wanted
to
ask:
what's
the
latest,
with
with
a
conference,
because
I
I
saw
quite
a
lot
of
traffic
and
then
it
seemed
to
have
parked.
B
So
this
one
this
has
been
discussed
on
previous
community
meetings.
But
honestly
I
don't
have
the
visibility.
Usually
lucas
is
the
one
working
on
this
and
let
me
check
because
on
the
community
repo.
B
F
B
More
so,
as
far
as
I
know,
this
has
been
discussed
on
previous
community
meetings
so
also.
B
B
Be
fine
and
this
or
you
can
also
yes,
so
this
is
the
list.
Yes,.
D
B
B
That's
all
I
know
I
I
haven't
been
really
following
closely
so
so
yeah,
no
idea
to
be
honest.
B
B
But
the
cool
thing
about
spain
is
that
we
are
a
few
here
in
spain
and
and
also
we
have
in
canada,
islands.
We
have
a
community
member
jorge
who
lives
in
tenerife.
So
that's
that
will
be
cool
and
he
is
happy
to
help
with
this
and
in
barcelona
we
have
sergio
and
other
people
other
folks
living
there.
So
and
I
have
been
living
in
barcelona
as
well
for
a
while.
So
I
can
help
there
and.
F
B
So
yeah,
so
this
is
yeah.
This
is
probably
where
it
is.
I
will
say:
barcelona
is
better,
is
better
connected
with
the
rest
of
the
world,
because,
even
if
you
don't
have
travel
flights
to
barcelona,
you
can
probably
fly
to
madrid
or
any
close,
relatively
close
city,
and
then
from
there
go
to
barcelona
and
also,
if
you're
in
europe,
then
you
can
move
by
car
or
train.
So
that's
easier,
so
so
yeah
yeah
barcelona
would
be
more
eco-friendly,
eco-friendly.
B
B
A
B
So
but
I'm
happy
to
whatever
it
happens,
so
yeah
I'll
be
happy
if
it.
D
B
In
barcelona,
or
in
zagreb
or
I've
been
in
sag
rep
and
it's
a
beautiful
city
as
well,
so
that
would
be
cool
so
yeah
anyway
yeah.
These
are
the
these.
Are
the
the
options
or
the
the
suggestions
so
far,
so
yeah,
if
you
want
to
get
involved
with
with
this,
like
my
suggestion,
is
that
you
ping
lucas
and
or
in
business
discussions
or
in
or
in
slack
and
they
will
they
will
for
sure
help
with
it.
B
Today
is
a
little
bit
of
a
weird
community
meeting,
because
this
community
meetings
is
usually
run
by
lucas,
but
he's
off
today.
So
so
I'm
just
I'm
not
the
best
one,
probably
to
help
with
this.
B
B
D
So
I've
been
trying
to
work
a
little
bit
with
react
recently
because
who
doesn't
love
extra
projects,
so
all
of
you
are,
I
hope,
all
of
you
know
that
this
event
visualizer
and
studio,
something
that
was
contributed
by
dave
dave.
Yes
exactly,
but
it's
it's
currently
only
placed
within
studio
itself,
so
you
cannot
reuse
it
anywhere.
D
The
the
html
documentation
here
is
renderable
through
react
through
a
component
which
is
easily
reusable
like
in
any
case.
You
want
to
use
it.
So
I
wanted
to
do
the
same
with
the
event
visualizer.
D
D
So
this
means
that
you
can
define,
for
example,
an
application,
and
you
can
then
define
an
outgoing
and
an
incoming
connection
to
that
specific
application.
You
can
then
also
wrap
it
with
an
async
api
document.
So,
instead
of
having
those
manual
building
blocks,
you
can
then
just
say:
well
here's
my
async
api
document.
D
Which
then
yeah
shows
using
the
exact
same
building
blocks,
and
then
I
try
to
work
with
a
few
different
views
so
to
say,
because
when
you're
looking
at
a
specific
application,
it's
okay
to
just
see
those
specific
connections
that
are
connected
to
that
specific
application.
But
what?
If
you
have
a
system
of
multiple
applications
like
how
are
those
specifics
connected?
D
D
D
But
this
is
this
is
something
I'm
kind
of
dabbing
at
whenever
I
feel
like.
I
have
motivation
for
it,
so
it's
kind
of
like
yeah
side,
project
yeah.
I
love
it
but
yeah
it
it's
out
there,
so
you
can
use
it
right
now,
but
it's
rough
as
you
can
see.
D
B
G
It's
a
little
bit
problematic
because
you
don't
know
the
consumers
or
mostly
are
the
api
owner,
so
the
relations
should
have
been
come
from
a
different
database.
I
have
made
similar
by
my
own,
using
dot
and
graphics,
to
show
the
relations
and
yeah.
It
was
one
week
of
tuning
to
get
all
the
lines
pretty.
The
display.
D
Yeah,
I
can't
do
that
so,
like
okay,
I
could.
I
could
do
the
manual
thing
and
then
say:
here's
all
the
building
blocks.
Please
place
it
wherever
you
feel
like,
and
then
you
can
save
it.
For
example,
that
would
be
the
low
practical
way,
but
I
kind
of
want
these
different
kind
of
system
views
I
kind
of
want
them
to
have
different
kind
of
layouts
automatic
layouts.
D
G
E
Oh
sorry,
I
was
saying
how's
the
other
one
built
at
the
moment,
there's
a
another
one
that
you
showed
now,
that
is
like
nice,
curved
lines
and
everything
else
how's
that
built
at
the
moment.
Another
visualizer
you
showed
earlier.
D
That
so
I
have
the
exact
same
layout
for
the
it's
actually
the
same
that
we're
seeing
here
in
essence,
and
it's
just
in
columns,
meaning
that
all
of
the
published
channels
are
in
one
column
the
application
is
in
the
middle
and
then
this
one
is
the
third
column
and
that's
it.
So
it's
basically
just
stacking
everything
within
one
column
and
it's
okay.
Until
you
have
10
000
channels
and
then
it's
not
fun
anymore.
D
E
D
E
I
ahead
sorry,
karen,
I
have
a
little
bit
of
the
lag,
so
my.
B
So
I
was
wondering
like
maybe
we
don't
need
those
published
subscribe
blogs
at
all.
So
I
mean
in
this
like
single
application
view.
That's
fine
because
it's
like
yeah,
you
want
to
see
what's
publishing
and
what's
been
and
what's
subscribing
and
so
on,
but
in
the
multiple
applications
you
probably
don't
want
to
have
subscribe
and
publish.
You
want
to
have
arrows
in
one
direction
in
the
other
or
in
both
right
depending
here,
so
so
powerless
and
subscribe
will
become
arrows,
not
not
a
whole
block.
B
The
other
way
is
that,
what's
in
the
middle,
is
the
channel
not
the
not
the
something
like
that
yeah
what's
in
the
middle,
is
the
channel?
Not
the
not
the
operation
or
what's
in
the
middle
is
the
message,
not
the
operation,
not
the
channel.
So
it's
like
this
message
is
being
published
there
in
this
direction
in
the
direction
of
the
error
or
is
being
received
or
it's
both
being
published
and
received.
B
G
World
api
is
normally
consists
out
of
hundreds
of
channels,
so
multiple
data
types,
and
so,
if
you
have
one
application
connected
to
another,
you
have
to
draw
multiple
lines
with
multiple
channels.
So
don't
know
if
that's
a
good
idea
yeah.
I
thought
it
was
just
drawing
the
connections
between
the
api
owner,
the
api
consumer
and
on
click.
You
show
all
the
details.
G
D
Is
the
idea?
The
idea
is
that
you
can
specialize
it
for
your
use
case.
The
idea
is
not
to
have
one
specific
way
of
showing
it,
because
no
no
specific
way
is
the
right
way.
In
almost
all
cases.
The
idea
is
to
have
as
many
specialized
and
specific
views
of
this,
so
you
can
lay
out
it
all
in
all
kinds
of
ways.
Yeah
the
same
with,
for
example,
filtering
events.
Let's
say
that
you
just
want
to
see
who
is
using
a
specific
channel
and
this
our
topic
in
kafka,
for
example.
D
B
View,
let's
say,
of
a
huge
graph
with
applications
talking
to
each
other
and
so
on.
I
think
there
is.
B
The
the
simplest
view
will
be
my
in
my
opinion,
will
be
just
arrows
connecting
the
applications
and
then
like
haku
was
saying
like
then
you
can
click
and
then,
if
you
click
in
the
connection
in
the
arrow
you'll
see
more
details
like
which,
which
channels
are?
Are
you
publishing
or
subscribing
to
or
whatever,
right
and
and
another
option?
And
another
thing
that
I
just
realized
is
I
don't
see
the
broker
here?
B
I
don't
see
the
server
here
and
that's
a
problem
and
that's
probably
why
it's
making
it
so
hard
to
to
visualize,
because
these
applications
are
not
talking
to
each
other.
B
This
is
not
true,
but
indirectly,
indirectly,
yes,
but
they're
not
talking
to
each
other
they're
talking
to
the
broker
and
then
so
someone
one
is
talking
to
the
broker
and
the
other
one
is
subscribing
for
the
broker.
But
there
may
be
the
case
where
you
have
multiple,
multiple
publishers
in
a
specific
topic
or
channel
and
multiple
subscribers
on
a
specific
channel.
G
B
Yeah,
you
might
end
up
having
multiple
brokers,
but
what
I
mean
is
that
at
least
it's
a
little
bit
more
accurate
right
because
we're
it's
not
true
that
we're
published
from
one
application
to
another
we're
publishing
to
a
broker
right
and
also
there
might
be
a
broker
or
100
brokers.
I
don't
care
like,
even
if
they
are
it,
but
it
will
be
much
easier
to
draw
the
graph
if
you
have
like
a
column
with
all
the
brokers
in
the
middle,
let's
say
100
brokers,
and
then
you
have
all
the
all
the
applications.
B
Well,
actually
I
don't
know
if
it's
gonna
work,
what
publishing
but
yeah
the
same
applications
we'll
be
receiving,
but
then
you
can
place
applications
anywhere
all
around
the
broker
around
the
brokers
right.
The
only
case
where
this
will
not
be
true
is
where
applications
are
talking
to
each
other
directly
like
in
the
case
of
websockets
or
an
http
api
right
in
this
case,
there's
no
broker
so
then
connection
must
be
direct
between
applications,
but
as
it
is
right
now,
it
looks
like
one
application
is
talking
to
the
other
directly
and
it's
not.
D
E
But
if
you
click
it,
you
can
see
the
old,
different
micro
blockers
that
form
up
that
mesh.
Then
you
still
have
both
both
the
visualization
that
this
application
is
communicating
with
this
application
through
a
broker
or
if
it's
direct,
it's
communicating
with
this
application
through
web
sockets,
which
is
a
different
form
of
broker.
If
we
can
call
it
that
or
something
like
that,.
D
Another
thing
that
I
kind
of
have
a
hard
time
figuring
out
how
to
do
is
like
mapping
these
two
applications
and
the
channels
they
talk
over
automatically
is
hard
to
do,
because
right
now,
I'm
assuming
that
it's
on
the
same
server
or
same
broker,
and
it's
that
they
are
directly
connected,
that
it's
not,
for
example,
multi-channel
tenancy
where
one
application
does
not
know
anything
about
the
second
application,
because
they
are
two
accounts.
For
example,
that
is
impossible
to
like
to
to
figure
out
automatically,
and
it's
kind
of
I'm
not
sure
how
to
handle
that.
E
Exactly
so
on
the
consumer
side,
we
don't
have
a
way
to
specify
that
we're
consuming
from
this
broker.
Yes,
because
if
we
have
that,
that's
that's
a
way
that
we
can
join
the
two
and
do
no,
it
might
not
be
as
granular
or
we
should
be.
We
have
that.
B
D
It's
really
easy
in
the
simple
scenarios,
but
as
soon
as
as
we
talk
the
complex
setups
that
is
not
defined
like
some
of
them
are
not
defined
within
async
api,
for
example,
because
it's
infrastructure,
it's
specific
infrastructure
for
your
specific
setup
and
it
just
because
that
one
application
is
publishing
to
the
same
channel.
Another
one
is
subscribing
to
does
not
mean
that
those
two
are
talking
to
each
other
correct,
that's
the
thing
and
that's
not
possible
to
do
in
facing
api
at
the
moment.
D
B
They're
they're,
it's
the
opposite,
like
there
could
be
a
case
where
I'm
publishing
to
specific
channel
and
that
metal
message
will
end
up
in
another
channel
in
another
bra
in
another
server.
But
there's
no
information
about
this
hope.
This
hop
between
the
two
servers
like,
for
instance,
say
solas
or
confluent
kafka
as
well,
like
you
can
publish
a
message
to
a
channel
using
the
http
api
right,
http,
connector
or,
and
then
you
have
list
to
a
specific
topic
using
http
connector.
B
What
you
see
there
is
a
request
operation
to
an
http
endpoint,
but
then
the
subscriber
is
going
to
receive
it
using
the
kafka
protocol,
not
http
on
the
on
the
topic,
so
those
two
are
not
initially
interconnected.
Those
two
will
not
be
visualized
as
connected,
but
they
are
they're
they're
communicating
to
each
other.
B
That's
the
thing
like
that's,
probably
something
that
we
should
be
allowing
to
define
in
the
future.
Maybe
I
don't
know
like.
B
I
think
that's
something
that
I
think
one
sergio
once
mentioned,
that
it
would
be
great
to
have
like
a
logical
unit
of
a
server
or
a
broker,
with
multiple
protocols
right
or
or
tenants
as
well
right,
so
that
you
can
have
one
is
using
http,
which
is
the
say,
kafka,
http,
adapter,
the
other
one
is
the
kafka
broker
itself
and
then
you
can
communicate
with
the
broker
either
using
http
or
the
kafka
protocol
too,
but
both
of
them.
B
Then
I'm
publishing
to
this
broker
through
the
http
interface.
But
it's
this
broker.
No,
it's
not
a
different
one
right,
so
that
will
make
things
easier
and
it's
something
it's
really
something.
We
will
be
able
to
visualize
this
kind
of
connections,
but
that's
that's
not
possible
at
the
time,
but
it's
a
good
suggestion
for
version
three.
D
So
exactly,
but
this
is
also
where
it's
important
like
to
say
that,
like
the
the
tooling
and
the
building
blocks
that
we
use
are
gonna
be
paramount
to
this,
because
just
imagine
how
complex
this
specific
scenario
is,
we
need
tools
that
does
this
specific
job,
for
example
cupid
that
that
is
the
sign
for
this,
but
it
still
has
no
way
of
doing
it
at
the
moment.
Right
yeah,
but
yeah
trolling
is
paramount.
D
D
C
D
You
could
have
seen
it
a
few
versions
ago,
because
then
this
like
the
css,
was
never
loaded
at
all,
because
I
did
I
didn't.
I
didn't
understand
that
it
was
wrapped
within
this
root
class,
which
means
that
nothing
of
the
css
was
loaded.
So
so
it
was
just
text
on
the
screen.
Basically,
and
there
was
no
background
there
was
no
layout,
it
was
just.
D
B
Okay
and
speaking
and
speaking
about
layout,
by
the
way,
I
don't
think
these
blocks
should
be
squares
or
rectangles.
B
B
B
It
I'm
saying,
as
it
is
right
now,
but
if
you
have
in
and
out
on
the
sides,
then
what
does
it
mean
that
it's
going
for
the
top
or
from
the
bottom?
Is
it
in?
Is
it
out?
So
how
do
you
dynamically
calculate
that.
D
B
E
B
D
D
D
I
know
that
the
new
ones
like
the
new
version,
but
it's
a
paid
version,
so
it's
kind
of
limited
in
certain
ways
has
some
abilities
for
this,
but
maybe
in
the
future
yeah
but
yeah.
I'm
not
sure.
I
wanna,
like
I'm
gonna,
try
to
push
this
to
a
stable
state
as
soon
as
possible
and
contribute
it
to
async
api,
so
it
can
evolve
there.
B
Another
thing:
another
thing
that
I
realized
before
I
forget
to
comment
is:
if
we
extract
this
as
a
as
a
component
as
a
separate
component,
not
this
multi-view
or
system
view,
but
the
one
that
is
in
studio.
If
we,
if
we
extract
it
as
a
component,
a
separate
one,
then
it
can
be
embedded
on
the
on
the
html
documentation
as
well.
D
B
Would
be
or
or
maybe,
if
not
reactflow,
maybe
another
library
that
will
just
show
the,
but
no
I
I
think
I
think
it
can
be
interactive
yeah.
We
can
leave
it
there
as
interactive
peers.
That
is
then
generated
right.
Every
time
you
change
document
or
every
time
you
export
it.
You
generate
html
right
so
could
be
interesting.
D
B
Gotta
go
gotta,
jump
to
another
meeting,
but
still
have
time
for
questions.
So
if
someone
else
is
willing
to
ask
something
quick
or
I
can
quick
quit
and
then
you
join
us
take
over
as
you
prefer.
D
B
So
thanks
folks
for
joining,
it
was
really
interesting
chat
today,
as
always
join
the
slack
channel.
If
you're
not
there
yet
and
skip
chatting
there,
asynchronously.