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A
All
right
we
are
live
today
is
thursday
august
4th
happy
august
everybody.
This
is
our
fortnightly
community
outreach
meeting
and
before
we
get
into
agenda
items,
we're
going
to
go
around
to
do
some
quick
introductions,
we'll
use
popcorn,
which
means
one
of
us
will
introduce
ourselves
and
then
call
on
the
next
person
randomly
which
will
keep
everybody
paying
attention,
except
for
me
because
I
get
to
go
first,
so
my
name
is
jen
lampton,
I'm
joining
from
oakland
california.
A
B
Okay,
I'm
robert
lang
web
folder
on
the
internet,
coming
from
altadena
california
and
I've
been
working
on
my.
B
Live
recently
discovering
all
the
bugs
that
happen
when
the
real
world
starts
pounding
on
a
site
and
having
a
good
time
I'll
pass
it
to
martin.
D
Hi,
I'm
martin
price
in
united
kingdom
york's
putting
on
the
internet.
I've
been
working
on
a
couple
of
sites
and
had
the
joyous
thing
where
you
spend
10
minutes
working
on
css
and
wondering
why
it's
not
updating
and
realizing
you're
doing
it
for
the
other
site,
so
yeah.
So
all
the
all
the
joys
of
of
building
sites
so
and
we'll
go
to
tim.
E
Yeah
hi,
I'm
tim
erickson,
I'm
in
deer,
with
minnesota
st
paul
tim
in
the
forums
and
I'm
going
to
attempt
that
and
I'm.
E
E
Okay,
great,
we
have
a
couple
of
things
on
our
agenda.
We
have
this
section
so
saying
what's
relevant
right
now,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
something
that's
relevant
right
now
is
drupal
camp
colorado,
which
is
starting
tomorrow,
and
I
don't
know
if
everybody's
been
following
it.
But
but
one
of
the
highlights
of
drupal
camp
colorado
is
going
to
be
a
big
interview
with
jen.
A
Yeah,
it's
interesting
like
anyone
who
has
any
questions
about
backdrop
or
anything
really
can
submit
them
ahead
of
time
and
then
rachel
lawson
is
gonna.
Do
like
interview
where
she'll
go
through
questions
that
people
have
previously
submitted
if
she
doesn't
think
they're
hard
enough,
she'll
come
up
with
her
own,
so
I've
gotta
be.
A
But
yeah
it
sort
of
allows
lots
of
people
in
the
drupal
community
to
ask
questions
if
they
wanted
to
about
backdrop
or
other
things
so
yeah
that
should
be
fun.
I
think
the
thing
that
excites
me
the
most
about
it
is,
if
you
go
to
the
drupal
camp
colorado
website,
dribble
cam
colorado,
which
is
drupal
dash,
colorado.org
and
look
at
the
home
page
about
halfway
down.
A
E
A
Yeah,
oh
also,
I
should
mention
that
this
is
a
hybrid
event.
There
will
be
a
lot
of
people
in
there
in
person,
but
there's
also
going
to
be
a
whole
bunch
of
people
attending
online.
So
if
you
want
to
attend
drupal
camp
colorado
and
not
be
there
in
person,
you
can
also
sign
up
online
and
you
can
attend
all
the
sessions
through
hop
in
and
all
of
the
speakers
that
are
presenting
in
person
are
also
going
to
be
doing
their
presentations
through
hopkins.
So
people
can
watch
online
at
the
same
time.
A
C
E
I
mean
I'm
on
that
topic.
I
think
I
mentioned
this
last
time.
Wasn't
drupalcambash
nashville
was
hybrid
because
what.
B
E
B
E
Could
be
that
they
just
allowed
remote
presenters
so
that.
E
E
B
E
B
E
E
Okay,
is
there
anything
else
as
far
as
we,
I
think
we
talked
about
this
last
week,
we're
not
aware
of
any
other
official
sessions
happening.
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
some
backdrop,
people
you
know,
still
dropped
in
and
participated
remotely
with
the
drupal
camp.
Folks,
I
think,
colorado
folks,
I
think
it's
a
big
deal
that
they're
giving
john.
E
Are-
and
you
know
and
encouraging
people
to
talk
about
background
and
if
we
could
support
their
event
and
show
them
the
background
folks
are
interested.
That
would
be
good,
so
I'm
I
say
all
that,
knowing
that
that's
going
to
be
pretty
hard
for
me
to
participate
because
it's,
I
think
it's
a
free
event,
isn't
it
and.
A
I
think
I
think
so
I
think
you
can.
You
can
pay
20
for
a
t-shirt,
I
think
is
their
deal.
So
if
you
want
to
pay,
you
can
and
then
you
get
a
teacher.
E
Right,
I
think
that's
I
think
they've
made
a
point
of
that.
It's
free,
but
unless
you
want
to
get
a
t-shirt,
anyways
yeah,
so
that's
going
on,
is
there
anything
else
that
we
can
do
at
the
last
minute?
Other
than
submitting
questions
for
you
landry's.
E
A
E
Noticed
I've
there's
been
a
lot
of,
but
but
part
of
it
is
that
you
and
others
have
definitely
seen
the
calls
for
question
for
jen.
I
just
haven't
seen
that.
E
E
E
Backdrop
live
because
there
is
one
of
the
big
issues
with
backdrop.
Live
is
how
it
times
with
with
bad
camp
back
bad
campus,
just,
I
think,
opened
their
call
for
sessions
this
week
and
I
think
amy
jones
posted
that
or
people
have
been
asking
about
that
in
the
in
zulu
and
I've
seen
it
on
social
media.
E
A
I
mean
I
will
probably
register
and
submit
a
session
and
try
and
figure
out
like
there's.
Some
logistics,
like
the
dharma
college,
is
really
small,
so
maybe
they're
only
going
to
have
a
handful
of
people,
in
which
case
I
would
be
less
concerned
about
going.
But
if
it
was
like
a
normal-sized,
bad
camp
event,
I
probably
would
think
that's
a
large
gathering
and
it's
not
safe
for
people
I'm
trying
to
take
care
of,
but
yeah
we'll
see.
A
I
don't
really
know
exactly
what
their
plans
are
for
managing
capacity
and
ventilation
and
all
the
other
stuff
that
I
need
to
consider.
But
I
would
love
to
be
there
if
it
would
be
possible
and
it's
in
my
backyard-
and
I
feel
like
I'm
here-
I
don't
have
to
get
on
a
plane.
It's
a
lot
less
risk
than
not
anywhere
else
so
yeah
perfect.
E
Okay,
well,
and
it
is
all
in
person
they're
not
trying
anything
hybrid.
Are
they
for
bad
camp.
E
Recall
that
either
okay,
but
we
might
want
to
keep
our
eye
on
that.
So
this
sort
of
relates
to
backdrop
live
in
that
in
the
past
we
have
done
training
sessions
at
bad
camp
and
luke,
I
believe,
is
on
the
planning
committee
for
bad
camp
and
from
what
he
was
telling
us
in
a
recent
meeting.
It
sounds
like
because
of
the
venue
this
year
that
space
is
a
bit
limited.
E
We
it
sounds
like
we
could
apply
for
a
training
room,
but
the
it
might
be
harder
to
get
one
this
year
because
of
the
space
considerations,
but
I
think
the
idea
was
thrown
out
that
if,
for
example,
we
thought
that
we
wanted
to
and
that
there
would
be
people
around
that
would
be
interested.
We
could
do
our
own
event,
because
we
have
local
organizers
and
the
bad
camp.
Might
you
know
cross-promote
it,
so
that
would
be
one
opportunity
as
if
we
did
some
sort
of
a
backdrop
event
around
bad
camp.
E
That
was
not
like,
not
necessarily
on
campus,
that
we
could
tie
it
in
if
we
wanted
to
personally
I've,
given
some
thought
to
whether
or
not
I'm
still
you
know
not
eager
to
to
to
travel
to
conferences
across
the
country.
I
I
mean
I'm
eager
too,
but
I'm
hesitant,
it's
probably
my
stage,
so
I'm
a
little
bit
it's
because
it's
a
big,
smaller
event
this
year,
I'm
debating
whether
or
not
it's
worth
it,
but
this
ties
into
because
our
backdrop
live.
Our
tentative
dates
are.
D
We're
worth
mentioning
that
there's
also
prague
drupal
in
20th
to
23rd
of
september,
which
I
don't
know
if
any
of
our
european
friends
are
planning
to
go
to
that.
But
I
did.
I
did
look
into
it
and
think
about
it,
but
we
we've
had
a
lot
lots
of
issues
with
flight
cancellations
from
britain
at
the
moment
they're
really
struggling.
D
So
I
would
hesitate
to
try
and
book
anything,
but
it
may
be
easier
for
those
who
were
on
who
were
closer
to
be
able
to
get
there
by
train
or
but
it
is
worth
mentioning.
But
I
don't
know
if
anyone's
planning
to
go.
E
Well,
I
I
think
at
the
very
minimum
we
should
ask
anybody,
that's
watching
this.
If
anybody
knows
of
anybody
in
the
backdrop
community
that
plans
to
go,
it
would
be
good
to
know
that
I
think
around
every
drupal
con.
We
usually
have
some
small
discussion
about
you
know
what,
if
anything
we
can
do.
You
know
whether
it
be
just
simply
like
having
a
happy
hour
one
night.
E
If
there
are
people
there
that
could
host
that
and
just
sort
of
put
it
out
on
social
media
or
you
know,
send
some
t-shirts
or
stickers,
you
know
with
them
or
you
know,
what
can
we
do?
I
don't
think
we
should
ignore
drupalcon,
but
it
doesn't
really
matter
much
if
none
of
us
are
going
to
be
there.
So
I
feel
like
there
was
somebody
that
might
have
mentioned
going,
but
I
don't
know.
E
Okay,
I
think
the
dates
for,
for
I
mean
drupalcom
prague,
doesn't
interfere.
I
think,
with
our
backdrop,
live
at
all,
so
going
back
to
the
backdrop
live
discussion.
E
We
john
do
remember
the
tentative
dates
that
we
have
posted
somewhere.
Where
do
we
have
them
posted
they're.
A
E
It's
only
three
months.
We
were
talking
about
creating
a
bigger
gap
between
backdrop,
lives
and
our
last
one,
which
is
in
july
october,
is
only
three
months
in
between
which,
and
it's
been
almost
a
month.
No,
it's
been
well
yeah,
it's
getting
close
to
three
weeks
since
backdrop
live,
so
you
know
we're
really
down
to
about
two
months
to
plan
back
to
apply
the
next.
E
E
A
I
mean
I
think
that
the
real
problem
is
that
november
and
december
is
like
impossible
to
schedule
because
of
all
the
traveling
and
then
bad
camp
being
in
october
was
sort
of
something
that
always
gave
us
a
driver
to
do
something
around
the
same
time.
A
So
I
don't
know
I
would
be
open
to
changing
things
if
people
felt
like
that
would
be
valuable,
but
we
also
talked
about
next
year
doing
only
two
here
instead
of
three,
and
so
that
might
be
something
too.
Whereas
if
we.
A
E
I
I'm
not
I'm
not
100
sold
on
that,
but
I'm
very
open
to
the
idea
of
going
down
to
two
a
year,
and
but
I
think,
if
we
do
what
it
should
be
after
this
one,
so
this
one
could
I
think
this
one
could
happen.
I
mean
I
mean
certainly
get
into
late
november
is
really
hard
early
november
to
me
is
still
possible,
but
I'm
I'm
also.
E
You
know,
I
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
matter
that
much
if
we
dive
in-
and
you
know,
start
working
on
this
now
and
do
it
either
on
those
dates.
I
think
we
could
push
it
off.
Are
there
other
concern
scheduling
concerns
like
why
you
know?
Could
we
do
it
a
week
or
two
later
in
october
I
mean.
A
D
C
A
So
yeah,
I
think
if
we
wanted
to
move
it
even
just
a
few
weeks,
the
21st,
22nd
or
28th
29th
it'd
also
be
optional
or
good
options
even
november.
4Th
5th
could
be
good
because
that's
early
enough
in
november,
we're
not
getting
too
close
to
the
holidays
right.
D
Well,
fourth
and
fifth
is
bonfire
season.
In
the
uk
we
we
have
bonfire
night
to
celebrate
the
execution
of
someone
who
tried
to
blow
up
the
houses
of
parliament.
What
fox
isn't
it?
Guy
fawkes
yeah.
D
E
D
E
I
was
there
once
for
that,
but
anyway
I
didn't
participate,
though
it
was
happening.
Anyways,
okay!
Well,
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
go
any
later,
I
would
say.
Maybe
I
think
I
would
like
to
bump
it
a
week
or
two,
but
at
least
you
just
give
us
a
little
extra
time,
but
I'm
okay,
you
know,
I'm
not!
I'm
not
too
stressed
about
it.
So.
A
Well,
why
don't
we,
I
think,
if
we're
gonna
move
it,
which
the
sooner
is
better
than
later,
so
why
don't?
We
tentatively
move
it
now,
but
then
talk
about
it
in
the
development
meeting
right
after
this
and
make
sure
everybody
there
is
comfortable
with
it
just
so
we
can
get
some
more
people
and
then,
if
everyone
in
those
two
groups
is
happy
with
it,
let's
post
something
on
the
forum
and
try
and
like
make
a
little
bit
more
noise.
E
D
E
Okay,
well
it
isn't
that
important
to
me
and
if
you
really
want
to
participate
martin,
I
know
we
can't
build
around
everybody's
schedule,
but
we
can
try
to
get
those
of
us
that
are
here
that
want
to
participate.
We
could,
I
don't
know,
maybe
we
just
leave
it
like
this,
I'm.
Finally,
even
when
it
is
with
everybody
else's,
I
don't
think
back
to
our
band
camp
is
really
an
issue
that
would
be
the
biggest
thing
is
that
it's
so
close
to
bad
camp.
But,
to
be
honest,
I
just
don't
see
that
that
matters.
E
A
If
people
are
really
in
involved
in
bad
camp,
then
they're
gonna
be
really
tired
and
doing
another
event.
The
next
week
is
sometimes
a
lot
so
like
that
I
would
think
of
like
luke,
maybe
would
be
the
person
in
our
community
who's
most
involved
in
both,
but
it's
especially
if
there's
like
an
in-person
event
followed
by
an
online
event.
You
might
just
be
like
I'm
just
gonna
sleep
through
the
online
events,
but
I
don't
know.
A
Another
thing
that's
potentially
interesting
is
that
a
security
release
wins
wednesday
is
the
19th
of
october.
So
if
drupal
core
has
a
security
release,
the
backdrops,
of
course,
would
have
a
security
release
on
that
day.
That's
the
window
for
october,
so
that
would
be
that
same
week.
E
Is
going
back
right
by
my
so
I'm
then
the
that
would
primarily
affect
like
you
and
nate
and
a
few
others,
and
that
you
currently.
E
A
B
A
E
A
E
Yeah:
okay,
if
no
one
objects,
let's
propose
21st
to
the
22nd
I'll.
Have
the
discussion
see
if
anybody
objects?
Okay,
we're
just
pushing
it
off
one
week.
I
think
the
main
reason
it
isn't
going
to
help
us
with
our
backdrop
live
burnout,
but
it
will
help
with
the
backdrop
or
the
bat
camp
any
possible
sort
of
conflict
or
stress
there.
E
B
B
E
E
I
will
say
the
you
know:
I'd
like
to
get,
especially
if
it's
coming
up
that
soon,
I'd
like
to
get
the
date
settled,
partly
because
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
open
up
registrations
and
get
that
stuff
in
the
works
as
quickly
as
possible,
because
we're
only
two
months
out,
I
did,
in
addition
to
other
things,
we're
still
advertising.
The
last
backdrop
live
on
the
front
page
of
backdrop.org.
E
I
just
changed
the
this
september
or
the
july
date
to
coming
in
october
for
now,
but
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
update
that
very
soon.
Okay,
okay,
next
thing
on
the
agenda,
the
suvi
crm
update
robert.
What
do
we
know.
B
Well,
not
a
lot
has
happened
for
over
a
month.
Actually,
it's
very
still
a
new
version
of
cbcrm
has
come
out
and
they
haven't
even
upgraded.
The
previous
version.
B
The
next
item
to
happen
is
has
been
figuring
out
how
we
want
to
migrate
existing
user
records
in
the
civic
crm.
I
mean
we
know
roughly
what
we
want
to
do
export
and
then
we
import
bias.
I
mean
it's
just
a
matter
of
finding
a
chunk
of
time
to
sit
down
and
make
that
work
on
a
local
site.
Try
it
out
on
beta
and
then
we
should
be
ready
to
move
things
over
to
real.
B
C
B
E
Well,
I
think
that's
really
helpful.
It
seems
so
just
to
clarify
for
me.
It
seems
like
this.
The
the
recent
upgrade
that
that
was
sort
of
a
blocker,
or
at
least
a
slower
for
a
short
time,
is
the
upgrade
done
yet.
Did
we
get
our
version
upgraded
yet
or.
B
No,
we
didn't,
and
I
mean
it's,
it's
not
a
big
deal
to
do
just
a
matter
of
downloading
it,
trying
it
on
a
local
site
to
verify
that
it
works
because
city
crm
upgrades
have
in
the
past
brick
sites,
and
you
know
so.
You
do
definitely
want
to
try
it
out
before.
B
The
newest,
they
do
a
new
release
about
once
a
month
and
the
new
release
just
landed,
and
it
is
good
to
wait
a
few
days
to
because
they're
they'll
have
a
0.1
release.
C
B
B
E
The
next
topic
on
the
agenda
is
memes
and
marketing.
I
don't
know
if
everybody
followed,
there
was
some
discussion
in
zula
martin.
Why
don't
you
take
over.
D
Yeah,
I
just
start,
but
I'd
just
just
start
a
little
conversation
in
zulip
about
what
we
we
often
do
quite
factual
marketing
and
whether
whether
a
way
to
get
attention
on
social
media
is
is
is
coming
up
with
a
few
hannah
memes
that
have
a
potential
to
be
a
bit
more
popular
and
be
people
enjoying
enjoying
the
the
sort
of
comedy
effect
and
the
them
spreading.
D
The
word
we
we
kind
of
tim-
and
I
discussed
this
a
bit
and
we
thought
well,
they
do
make.
We've
got
to
be
careful
about
what
message
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
not
too,
that
we're
not
being
critical
of
drupal,
but
we're
kind
of
coming
up
with
fun
ways
to
attract
people
to
drupal.
There
are
I,
I
posted
an
idea
and
a
few
other
people
sort
of
jumped
on
bandwagon
with
a
number
of
different
ideas.
D
Some
of
them
can
be
a
possibly
a
bit
critical
of
drupal,
which
is
is
probably
not
the
the
tone
that
we
want
to
take,
but
but
then
then,
there's
other
others
that
are
others
that
are
on
the
kind
of
softer
this.
This
was
the
one
that
I
came
up
with,
but-
and
I
know
a
few
of
us
from
indigozella
that
were
that
were
quite
good
and
I've.
E
There
we
go,
the
new
button
is
hidden
when
I
I'm
sharing
my
screen.
This
might
be
one
of
those
cases
where
we're
jumping
it
might
help
to
step
back
and
say
what
is
the
problem
with
practice?
Health.
I
I
think
for
me,
there's
a
broader
question
just
like
how
to
be
more
creative.
E
I've
often
wanted
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
in
an
outreach
meeting
thinking
about
like
how
we
could
be
more
creative
in
twitter,
and
this
would
be
one
of
the
you
know,
one
way
that
we
could
be
more
creative
just
to
get
a
little
bit
more
traction.
E
So
I
would
you
know
I
welcome
a
discussion
about
memes,
but
I
would
also
welcome
other
ideas
of
other
sort
of
things
we
could
do.
That
might
be
a
little
bit
more
catchy
than
what
we
have
been,
and
it
might
be
a
fun
time
for
people
to
come.
Anybody
who
watches
twitter,
how
we're
doing
so
I've
been
doing
most
of
the
tweeting
and
every
once
in
a
while.
I
do
things
that
I'm
a
little
bit
unsure.
B
A
I
looked
at
a
bunch
of
the
examples
that
you
posted
martin
and
I
thought
they
were
all
pretty
good.
I
think
that
it's
sometimes
hard
with
memes
to
know
like
where
a
potential
line
is
to
cross,
and
so
we.
D
A
Just
need
to
choose
really
carefully
about,
like
which
memes
we're
gonna
follow
and
sometimes
like
the
meme
spreads
and
gets
really
popular
before
anybody
understands
like
where
it
came
from
initially,
and
the
initial
source
could
be
something
where
you're
like.
Oh,
we
shouldn't
have
done
that,
and
you
don't
know
because
everyone's
using
it
harmlessly
by
the
time
you
find
it.
But
that
said,
I
think
that,
like
of
the
the
examples
you
showed,
there
wasn't
really
anything
in
there.
That
was
super
meany.
A
It
was
more
just
like
clever
use
of
photos
and
language
in
a
way
that
I
think
is
really
hard
to
get
wrong.
I
think,
as
long
as
we,
you
know
what
our
messages
and
what
we're
trying
to
send
across,
I
think
that's
fine.
The
only
concern
would
be
like
we
are
like
in
some
of
the
faces
right.
A
If
you
have
like
a
kid,
that's
like
super
disgusted
and
you're
like
this
is
drupal
night,
that
you
are
basically
saying
I'm
disgusted
by
mine,
and
so
I
think
we
might
want
to
be
a
little
careful
about
the
negativity.
So
if
we
could
find
some
way
that
it
was,
you
know
like
what
is
the
emotion,
that's
evoking,
and
is
that
something
we
want
to
think
back
drum
feels
about
drupal
right
rather
than
like
that
kid
feels
about
the
pasta,
he's
eating
or
whatever's
in
the
picture.
A
So
yeah,
I
don't
know-
I
have
like
a
part
of
me-
is
like
wow.
Some
of
these
are
really
clever
and
I
think
we
should
definitely
do
them
and
the
other
one's
like
I
don't
know
normally,
no
so
yeah.
I
think
what
might
be
valuable
is
if
we
just
sort
of
you
know
we're
like
okay.
A
A
E
Mean
yeah
anything
more
visual
is
helpful.
I
have
on
some
very
rare
occasions,
just
got
into
silly
gifts,
which
I
understand
some
people
really
like
on
on
twitter.
I'm
not
a
big
gift
person
myself,
but
I've
decided
to
play
with
it
from
time
to
time.
E
I
think
that
can
help.
The
other
thing
is
memes,
don't
have
to
be
about
drupal
right,
we
could
use
means
to
be
green
and
to
be
catchy.
Well
I
mean
we
could
make
some
about
wordpress.
D
Yeah,
well,
I
I
don't
think
some
of
them
have
to
be
specifically
about
other
things,
but
right,
but
I
think
one
of
our
strengths
is
the
way
that
we
can
handle
content
into
relationships
and
and-
and
you
you
wouldn't
have
to
be
specific-
to
to
kind
of
come
up
with
some
memes
around
you
know
is
your.
Is
your
content?
Are
you
getting
tied
in
knots,
trying
to
and
there's
loads
there's
loads
of
sort
of
mileage?
D
Are
you
getting
tired
and
not
trying
to
connect
your
content
and
backdrop
could
be
the
the
answer,
so
you
don't
have
to
sort
of
specifically
target.
I
know
that
there
are
ones
that
there
are
ones
that
do.
I
had
had
had
an
email
from
an
an
organization.
I've
I've
bought
some
stuff
off,
there's
a
supermarket
in
the
uk.
That's
bit
that
has
been
doing
kind
of
direct.
D
So
so
this
is
what
a
supermarket
in
the
uk
has
been
doing.
So
the
supermarkets
are
aldi,
which
is
a
sort
of
a
discount
supermarket
and
sainsbury's
is
a
slightly
more
up
market
thing
and
they've
been
doing
a
price
match,
and
so
they've
they've
just
done
a
couple
of
quite
quite
witty
comparisons.
B
D
Them
and
the
civil
ones,
so
so
there
are
ones
where
they
sort
of
directly
directly
target,
but
I
think,
but
for
all,
certainly
with
drupal.
D
I
think
it
would
be
insensitive
to
be
kind
of
making
negative
comparisons
against
them
when
we're
trying
to
sort
of
build
collaborative
relationships
and
the
fact
that
so
many
of
us
still
sort
of
have
a
lot
of
fondness
for
drupal.
It's
not.
I
think
I
think
you
mentioned
it
in
your
blog.
It's
not.
It
shouldn't
be
a
zero
sum
between
us.
C
Well,
I
think
one
kind
of
name
would
be
people
celebrating
saving
so
much
money
like
what's
happening
with
the
stanford
group,
saving
what
400,
000
or
something
yeah.
It
shows
somebody
really
just
in
celebration
mode.
You
know
I
just
say
400
000
or
whatever,
that
sort
of
promotion
of
how
much
easier
it
is
to
use
backdrop.
C
In
fact,
you
could
probably
just
start
off
searching
for
photographs
of
different
things
like
the
animal
photographs
and
the
ones
that
you
used
and
you
showed
on
screen.
Those
were
good
but
other
photographs
of
you
know
people
celebrating
or
people
I
don't
know
but
just
emotional
photographs
and
how
they
might
be
used.
D
That's
why
you're
wanting
to
connect
to
isn't
it?
You
want
them
to
connect
to
some
some
kind
of
emotional
reaction,
whether
that
be
the
the
hoping
that
drupal
7
is
going
to
be
extended
again
or
whether
that
is
the.
D
Whether
that's
the
frustration
of
being
tied
up
or
whether
it's
a
happiness
at
finding
backdrops,
so
it's
I
think
if,
if
we
can
sort
of
make
an
emotional
connection
with
people,
I
think
that's,
there's,
probably
a
good.
E
I
was
going
to
say:
martin,
you
started
this
about
like
using
means
in
our
marketing
and
it
isn't
I
mean
the
thing:
is
we
don't
we
don't
really
do
marketing
per
se?
Do
we
it's
not
like?
We
have
and
I'm
not
saying
we
shouldn't
you
know.
Maybe
we
should
do
some
more
tweets.
I
think
most
of
our
tweets
are
much
more
awareness
and
they're
they're
informational.
It's
like
what
you
said
and
I
think
another
way
to
say
your
premise
is,
is
you
know,
should
we
do
some
more
sort
of
here's?
E
Why
you
should
here's
why
you
should
use
background
marketing
whether
that
includes
memes
or
not?
The
problem,
of
course,
is
that
that
I
don't
know
how
effective
that
is
when
you're
getting
the
same
audience
right
and
that's
where
memes
come
in,
is
that
if
we
had
kind
of
a
marketing
message
that
was
mimi
and
catchy
that
it
might
actually
extend
beyond
our
regular
audience
and
get
to
new
people
right
now
that
we're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
that
we're
not
getting
a
lot
of
forwarding
and
viral
activity.
E
Yeah
I
have
I
just
you
know
again,
I'd
like
to
be
more
creative
and
than
what
we're
doing,
and
if
anybody
has
thoughts
across
our
social
media,
you
know
just
being
witty
funny.
You
know
I
try
to
do
that
from
time
to
time.
I
don't.
E
My
my
best
example
recently
was
the
the
guy
who
asked
who
posted
a
tweet
and
said,
tell
me
what
your
favorite
cms
is
and
why
it's
wordpress
and-
and
I
replied
from
the
backdrop
from
the
backdrop
account
I
replied
and
I
said
well,
if
wordpress
is
your
thing,
it's
not
bad,
but
there
are
some
other
really
great
cms's
out
there,
and
then
I
had
a
little
gift.
That's
like
it's
me.
It's
me
look
at
me,
but
I
thought
it
was
pretty
funny.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else.
C
So
we
could
look
at
what
have
been
the
most
circulated
viral
videos
and
see
if
some
of
the
viral
aspect
of
it
could
be
utilized.
E
Study
well,
if
anybody
knows
any
twitter
or
social
media
marketing
quizzes
that
want
to
have
a
conversation
with
us
to
talk
about
what
we
could
do.
Doc
wilmond
frequently
points
out
that
we
should
hashtag
drupal
more
and
I've
got
into
some
fights
with
him,
because
I
he
I
mean,
I
think
he's
basically
argued
like
every
tweet.
We
do
should
have
a
hashtag
drupal,
and
I
really
don't
like
that
idea.
E
I
do
think
we
should
hashtag
on
a
regular
basis,
but
we
shouldn't
do
it
all
the
time
in
my
view,
but
other
things
like,
I
think
you
know,
if
we're
replying
to
other
people,
gets
you
into
other
people's
fee.
E
You
know
sort
of
extends
your
reach
a
bit,
because
if
you're
replying
to
somebody
else
that
isn't
one
of
your
followers,
then
their
followers
are
going
to
see
your
tweet,
whereas
if
you
just-
and
so
I
try
to
do
a
little
bit
of
that,
I
could
certainly
use
help
finding
things
that
make
sense
to
reply
to.
Because
again
you
don't
want
to
be
spammy,
you
don't
want
to
just
jump
in
where
you're
it's
inappropriate.
E
So
you
have
to
find
things
to
reply
to
that
make
sense
and
where
you're
contributing
in
some
way,
even
if
it's
being
a
little
silly
or
fun
so,
and
certainly
those
might
be
places
where
we
sort
of
slip
a
meme
in
just
to
be
to
keep
it
light.
But
I
don't
know,
I
think
my
current
strategy,
martin,
is,
I
think
the
difficult
thing
about
using
your
memes
is
that
I
don't.
D
D
B
D
No,
I
I
I
think
it
does.
It
does
need
to
be
combined
with
clear
text
that
sort
of
gives
it
sort
of
gives
an
invitation,
and
so
yeah
that
that
I
think
I
mentioned
that
that
that
was
my
idea,
but
maybe
I
might
be
called
it
might
be,
got
a
bit
lost
in
the
thing,
but
that
that
that
would
be
my
approach
that
yeah
it
would
be
in
the
context
of
you
know
this.
This
is
an
emotion
and
th.
D
This
is
how
we
can
address
that,
or
this
is
how
you
can
reach
that
emotion.
A
E
D
D
D
E
E
I'd
love,
you
know
to
have
a
brainstorming
session
where
we
yeah
the
goal
is
to
deliberately
come,
let's
plan,
you
know
five
or
ten
tweets
that
you
know
that
are
or
social
media
posts,
because
we
can
use
something
on
this
platform.
Let's
try
to
map
out
a
batch
of
posts
that
we
could
use
over
the
next
two
or
three
weeks
and
and
focus
less
on.
Should
we
do
it
anymore?
I'm
like
okay.
What
would
we
do?
What
is
the.
D
Message
yeah,
I
mean
I've,
I've
got
ideas
and
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
join
them
up
and.
E
I
thought
I
mean
this
could
be
a
live
thing,
but
it
could
also
be
something
we
did
in
zulu.
Although
my
feeling.
C
E
I
don't
like
brainstorming,
that's
in
the
main
zone
channel.
It
feels
like
a
lot
of
clutter.
So
I
wonder
if
we
shouldn't
just
set
up
a
azula
or
a
social
media
channel
specifically
for
brainstorm,
so
like
some
place
where
I
could
just
throw
out
an
idea
and
say
what
do
people
think
about
this,
or
vice
versa,
and
not
feel
like
I'm
cluttering
up
the
other
channels.
B
E
Okay,
we
should
take
sarasvari
once
he's
done
some
work
and
he
wants
to
report
to
us.
Let's
talk
about
that,
so
we'll
have
to
come
back
to
the
social
media,
stuff,
so
rashford,
I
think.
Last
week
we
were
talking
about
creating
like
a
list
of
contacts.
Is
that
what
you
worked
on
right.
C
E
C
E
I
think
a
good
place
to
start
for
now
might
be
a
google
doc.
Do
you
have
it
in
a
google
doc?
E
C
E
D
We
do
we
do
have
a
backdrop
linkedin
group,
that
we
regularly
post
to
so.
E
Sure,
well,
I'm
sure
I
have
some
things
that
I
could
add
to
your
list
and
you
know
we.
I
think
I
showed
you
that
one
old
github
issue
that
had
some
things
listed
in
it.
So
hopefully
you
started
with
those
and
moved
out,
but
you
know
there
aren't
like
again
I'm
familiar
with
a
couple
of
facebook
groups.
C
Yeah,
I
didn't
do
any
github
groups
so
that
can
be
integrated,
so
yeah.
I
can
make
a
google
doc
and
then
send
you,
send
it
off
to
you
tim
and
you
can.
E
E
C
B
E
We
did
some
of
that
where,
where
we're
talking
it,
you
know
we're
gonna
get
more
done.
If
we,
if
we
have
specific
things,
we're
focusing
up
and
we
follow
up
on
them
right.
So
if,
if
we
keep
talking
about
this
list
that
you've
created
sarmashri
and
how
to
use
it,
we're
going
to
get
somewhere
rather
than
just
keep
saying,
we
should
have
a
list.
C
So
we
should
start
with
a
list
to
start
with.
We
just
need
some
con
content
creators
to
create
those
memes
or
whatever
you
want
to
create
right.
E
Okay,
well,
I
think
we're
running
out
of
time.
Did
you
have
any
last
anything
any
surprises
or
any
anything?
In
particular,
you
wanted
to
share
from
what
you
found
so
far.
C
No,
I've
already
done
that,
but
there
are,
there
are
groups
in
all
of
the
social
media.
Great
and
those
groups
are
sometimes
specific
to
a
particular
cms,
sometimes
not
sure.
E
Okay,
we
need
to
wrap
up
this
meeting,
so
we
can
get
under
the
dev
meeting.
So
thanks
everybody.
I
think
we
had
a
good
meeting
today.
Where
is
the
button
to
stop
the
recording
here?
It
is
top.