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A
B
D
Am
here
internet
is
down,
so
I'm
using
my
phone
to
join.
I'm
not
sure
if
my
camera
is
working.
Apologies.
A
No
worries
glad
to
have
you.
Thank
you
very
good,
so
we
will
we'll
get
started
here
this
evening
and
just
ask
marta
briefly
if
there
are
any
changes
to
the
tentative
agenda
as
published.
A
Hey
this
one
should
be
somewhat
brief,
since
we
only
do
have
one
item
on
the
agenda
for
in
november
on
it
was
an
email
sent
on
november
23rd.
The
panel
should
receive
draft
minutes
of
the
november
10th
meeting.
Has
everyone
had
the
opportunity
to
review
the
draft
minutes
and
are
if
everyone
has
assuming
everyone
has?
Are
there
any
corrections
or
additions
to
the
minutes
of
the
november
10th
drp
meeting.
A
B
A
Everyone
very
good,
and
then
now
I'll
read
through
an
opening
statement,
bear
with
me.
I
know
that
most
of
the
people
on
this
call
have
already
heard
this
some
multiple
times,
but
we
will
read
through
it
nonetheless,
so
title
nine
subtitle,
2
part
1
sections,
32-4-203
and
32-4-204
established
the
design
review
panel
drp,
the
drp
was
established
to
encourage
design
excellence
and
she'll
act
in
a
consulting
and
advisory
capacity
to
the
agencies
involved
in
the
process
of
reviewing
development
plans.
A
The
objectives
for
the
drp's
assessment
include
spatial
visual
and
functional
relationships
to
the
topographical
characteristics,
the
natural
and
built
features
of
the
site,
as
well
as
the
surrounding
features
of
the
site.
Visual
and
functional
integration
of
streetscapes,
pedestrian
pathways,
playgrounds,
recreational
amenities
and
parks,
streets
and
sidewalks
are
laid
out
in
a
safe
and
convenient
manner
and
parking
is
a
positive
design
element.
A
A
The
panel
consists
of
nine
members
all
are
professionals
with
practical
knowledge,
knowledge
in
the
matters
of
design
and
for
the
purposes
of
making
recommendations
on
a
particular
project.
Three
members
shall
constitute
a
quorum.
We
have
a
forum
tonight
with
those
in
attendance.
The
attendance
and
comments
of
each
member
shall
be
recorded
in
the
minutes,
which
shall
be
an
open
record
and
available
along
with
all
documents
submitted
to
the
panel
for
inspection
and
copying
by
the
public.
A
There
will
be
an
opportunity
for
the
community
to
offer
comments
and
suggestions
at
the
conclusion
of
the
applicant's
presentation.
These
comments
will
be
included
in
the
written
record
of
the
meeting
when
a
speaker
is
called
up
to
speak.
If
there
are
any
present,
please
keep
your
comments
focused
on
design
perspectives.
Within
your
allotted
two-minute
time,
if
you're
speaking
on
behalf
of
community
group,
we
will
get
five
minutes
then,
at
the
conclusion
of
the
meeting,
the
department
of
planning
will
sum
up.
The
recommendations
of
the
panel
before
a
motion
for
vote
is
suggested.
A
Recent
legislation
has
changed
the
panel's
recommendations
to
the
advisory
on
the
hearing
officer
and
the
various
county
agencies.
Unless
the
hearing
officer
or
agencies
find
the
panel's
actions
constitute
an
abuse
of
its
discretion
or
are
unsupported
by
the
documentation
and
evidence
presented,
disposition
of
the
plan
will
be
determined
as
either
approved,
approved
with
conditions
additional
review
with
a
second
second
meeting
or
third
meeting
is
required.
So
with
that
we'll
move
on
to
the
agenda
item,
we
do
only
have,
as
I
mentioned
one
agenda
item
for
tonight,
and
that's
the
return.
A
The
banditos
restaurant
on
31,
allegheny,
avenue,
downtown
towson
commercial
review
resubmittal,
and
with
that
presenter,
dustin
and
others
you
have,
I
guess,
is
dustin
and
sean
white.
You
have
the
floor.
F
Okay,
thank
you
good
evening.
Everyone.
We
have
kind
of
re,
put
the
package
together
with
the
recommendations
that
were
provided
in
the
last
meeting.
So
some
of
this
is,
we
can
probably
skip
through
fairly
quickly,
who
is,
is
mortar,
controlling
yep
yeah.
We
can
skip
through
this
kind
of
a
couple
of
sheets
existing
conditions
and
stop
at
the
site
plans.
We
have
updated
the
site
plans
for
the
recommendations
to
show
how
it's
currently
laid
out.
F
You
can
also
see
this
is
where
that
canopy
is.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
my.
I
guess
you
can't
see
my
arrow.
F
Stop
here
these
we've
added
these
lights
to
show
you
which
lights
are
along
the
facade,
there's
also
a
street
light
right
in
front
of
the
office
entry
on
the
sidewalk,
so
we're
adding
some
small
sconce
lights
above
the
garage
doors,
we're
adding
two
recessed
lights
under
the
canopy,
and
then
there
are
some
existing
lights
under
that
vestibule.
F
F
Next
one,
this
is
a
side
elevation,
so
we,
instead
of
the
pink
and
blue
stripes,
we
do
kind
of
black
and
gray
stripes
and
keep
just
a
little
bit
of
pink
on
the
ribbons
next
one
rear
elevation.
We
kept
those
sign
in
the
middle
a
little
bit
of
pink
at
the
top
next
one,
and
then
that
side
we
took
all
the
signs
off
we're
just
painting
the
building
to
reflect
it.
What
we
had
on
the
other
side
next
one.
F
Next
and
then
another
scheme,
a
scheme
b,
we
you
know
we
have
one
skin
where,
instead
of
we
keep
some
of
the
pink
and
blue
as
kind
of
a
continuous
band
across
the
top,
you
know
changing
the
kind
of
sign
to
white
with
pink
lettering.
F
So
this
would
be
that
side
elevation
facing
the
parking
lot
instead
of
having
the
bands
the
whole
way
down.
We
just
have
them
along
the
top,
it's
kind
of
a
cap
to
the
building,
and
then
the
sign
is
in
white
with
pink
lettering.
F
Sorry,
next
one,
that's
what
that
would
be
looking
from
circle.
F
F
A
A
So
may
I
ask
you
then,
to
move
on
to
the
staff
report.
Martin.
E
Thank
you
cecily,
so
we
prepared
our
staff
report
based
on
the
revised
drawings
that
the
applicant
provided
and
also
the
staff
report
will
follow
the
pccr
code.
References
for
the
project,
conformance
with
the
regulations
as
set
forth
in
section
259.,
downtown
thousand
district.
E
So
in
regards
to
environmental
sustainability
staff,
recommends
approval
in
regards
to
block
configuration
and
site
design.
The
applicant
does
not
change
the
existing
block.
Configuration
staff
recommend
approval
of
the
proposed
site
design
in
regards
to
parking
the
applicant
proposes
to
use
the
existing
parkings.
Then
there
are
no
changes.
Stock
requirement
approval
to
propose
parking
in
reconst
it
in
regards
to
downtown
open
space
staff,
recommends
approval.
E
The
proposed
open
space
in
regards
to
building
an
architecture
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
proposed
architecture
subject
to
the
following
condition:
the
applicants
provide
that
the
applicant
provided
the
dimensions
for
the
metal
canopy
overhang
forever.
The
applicant
needs
to
provide
the
height
dimension,
showing
the
distance
from
the
canopy
to
the
street
level
in
regards
to
building
materials.
E
The
proposed
materials
for
the
building
for
start
innovation
are
wood,
ecoton,
aluminum,
composite
panel
system,
roll-up
doors
and
a
metal
canopy
over
the
entryway
staff
requests
the
grp
to
clearly
state
if
the
year
period
amounts.
The
approval
of
the
proposed
materials
for
the
project
in
regards
to
lighting
staff
recommends
approval.
The
proposed
liking,
subject
to
the
following
condition:
number
one
provide
polite
picture
and
at
the
rear
of
the
building
for
pedestrian
set
in
regards
to
sign
staff,
will
defer
approval
of
the
proposed
spinach
and
the
mural
design
the
ddrp
and
offers
the
following
comment.
E
Number
one.
The
applicant
needs
to
consider
toning
down
the
use
of
pink
and
blue
color.
Also,
the
applicant
needs
to
scale
down
the
proposed
signage
size
and
the
vast
thought
as
conditions
by
design
by
the
design
review
panel
during
the
november
10
2021
meeting
number
two,
the
sign,
interesting
sorry,
but
we're
advertising.
The
building
address
needs
to
be
reviewed
and
accepted
by
baltimore
on
the
fire
department
for
appropriate
in
this
complete
first
step.
A
Very
good,
thank
you
martha
for
going
through
that
now
we'll
move
on
to
the
panel
discussion
and
I'm
going
to
start
with
joseph
youssefero
to
lead
us
off
in
that
discussion.
C
All
right
good
evening,
cecily,
may
I
go
a
little
bit
later
in
the
panel
order.
I
I
do
have
some
comments
that
I
I
don't
want
to
influence
the
other
panel
members.
A
Understood:
okay,
very
good,
mr
sharma,
we'll
move
on
to
you.
G
I
don't
have
any
specific
comment,
but
when
it
comes
to
making
choices
between
the
two
options,
I
would
rather
prefer
the
first
one,
which
is
more
gentle
and
a
little
softer
than
the
other
one.
D
So
I
have
a
couple
questions
the
if
you
could
maybe
go
to
the
site
plan.
Please.
D
Okay,
thank
you.
Could
you
please
confirm
for
me
what
the
pedestrian
clear
zone
is
between
the
entrance
and
the
outdoor
seating
area.
It
looks
a
bit
tight,
but
I
couldn't
really
tell
just
for
ada
purposes.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it's
at
least
four
feet.
D
Oh
got
it
okay
and
then
from
where
the
awning
ends
and
the
tables
yeah.
That
should
be
more
than
four
okay.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
there
and
are
there
any
lighting,
light
fixtures
or
any
lighting
in
the
parking
area
at
all.
H
I
mean
it's
not
honestly
yeah
that
that's
not
our
property,
that's
another
parking
lot
owned
by
another
gentleman,
so
they're.
It's.
D
D
Okay,
well,
those
are
the
questions
and
in
terms
of
environmental
sustainability,
like
what
are
some
things
that
you're
implementing
for
your
property.
F
D
Okay,
that's
good
to
know,
thank
you
and
in
regards
to
the
scheme,
a
and
b,
I
would
also
personally
prefer
scheme
a.
I
think
that
looks
seems
to
fit
a
little
bit
better.
I'm
not
completely
sold
on
the
pink
blue
stripes,
but
I'll
just
defer
to
other
panel
members
on
that,
and
that's
really
all
thanks
again.
B
Yes,
I
had
a
couple
questions.
Major
one
is
the
compliance
of
the
signage
requirements
in
terms
of
total
size.
That
was
a
question
that
had
been
asked
once
before.
Can
you
verify
where
you
are
with
that.
F
B
Including
the
sign
painted
on
the
west
wall
yeah,
okay
and
then
the
question
came
up
too
about
the
lighting
at
the
back,
because
that
alley
is
fairly
dark.
Well,.
F
D
F
Little
bit
I
mean
the
middle
there's,
a
gate
in
the
middle,
that's
like
a
metal
gate,
so
some
of
that
light
spills
out.
Yes,.
B
Okay,
and
can
you
show
the
proposed
for
the
front
elevation,
there
were
questions
about
the
canopy.
F
About
nine
feet,
if
you
look
at
the
two
pages
ahead,
it
shows
the
door
heights
that
the
main
entry
door
is
eight
feet
and
we're
putting
that
about
a
foot
above.
B
Yes,
I
think
the
option
a
I
think
is
going
to
be
more
successful
in
that
location.
Revised
scheme,
hey.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
We'll
move
to
julie,
sauce
next.
I
Yes
good
evening,
thank
you
for
the
revised
plans
and
the
I
assume
the
existing
lighting
is,
like
you
said,
very
bright
and
still
works
in
all
locations.
So
that's
not
a
concern.
You
also
a
question.
You
also
said
you
didn't
own
the
parking
lot,
so
you're
not
able
to
do
any
landscaping
improvements
in
front
of
it
where
there's
just
mulch
mulched
areas
is
that
is
that
correct?
Or
are
you
allowed
to
do
that.
I
H
I
have
a,
I
have
a
relationship
with
that
gentleman
as
we
may
be.
You
know,
leasing
some
parking
spots
from
him
in
the
evening.
So
I,
by
all
means
you
know
we
care
very
much
about
the
appearances
of
our
buildings,
I'm
not
sure
if
you've
had
time
to
venture
to
white
marsh
in
other
locations,
but
we
pride
ourselves
in
the
appearance.
So
by
all
means
you
know,
I'm
sure
he
will.
Let
me
handle
that
and
if
that's
the
case,
we
will
make
sure
that
the
curb
appeal
of
our
buildings
is
up
top-notch.
I
Great
that
that
would
be
awesome.
I
think
it
would
really
add
to
the
outdoor
eating
appeal
area
and
just
dress
up
that
area
and
keep
the
pedestrian
and
vehicles.
You
know
clearly
defined
and
separate.
I
I
A
Sorry
about
that,
I
was
just
remarking
that
a
seems
to
be
gaining
traction,
but
we'll
move
on
to
joseph
yousseferate
hear
his
take
and
ask
questions
that
he
may
have.
C
Good
evening-
and
I
also
like
scheme
a
so
so
just
some
comments
as
it
relates
to
these
signs
on
the
building
and-
and
I
I
do
a
lot
of
zoning
and
sign
work
in
the
county
and
specifically
to
the
dt
district
in
towson-
that
there
is
no
regulations
on
signs
they.
They
are
brought
before
the
design
review
panel
for
review
and
approval.
C
If
this
building
was
not
in
the
dt,
what
would
be
allowed
right
and
and
and
the
number
of
signs
on
the
facades
would
be
a
maximum
of
three
not
more
than
two
per
facade
and
the
way
that
you
calculate
the
the
the
total
square
footage
is
two
times
the
length
of
the
wall.
C
I
did
a
quick
calculation
on
the
building
and
it
looks
like
just
for
informational
purposes
so
long
as
this
project
would
be
outside
the
dt
you'd
be
allowed
420
square
feet
of
signage.
C
If
you
look
at
the
side,
banditos,
tacos
and
tequila
with
the
taco
I
like
it,
I
think
it
looks
nice,
but
I'm
a
little
concerned
with
the
area
which
is
14
over
1400
square
feet.
All
right
allow
bulging,
yeah
420.
This
is
1400
when
you,
when
you
add
all
this
up,
you
know
the
bands,
the
fronts
the
sides.
It
looks
like
it's
about
over
2
000
square
feet
of
signage,
generally
speaking
about
five
times
the
allowable.
C
So
so
then,
what
I
did
is
I
I
took
the
next
step
and
I
said:
well:
are
there
any
other
districts
in
baltimore
county
that
could
be
similar
to
the
dt?
Because
again
the
dt
doesn't
have
a
specific
sinus
regulation,
and-
and
I
looked
at
the
ct
district
in
the
transit
oriented
development
in
owings
mills
right.
So
the
ct
is
a
commercial
town.
Center
core
probably
is
somewhat
equivalent
to
a
towson
and
it
it
it.
The
code
says
that
you're
allowed
two
signs
at
a
thousand
square
feet:
each
okay.
C
So
I
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
and
and
say
I
like
scheme
a
I
like
the
side
elevations
of
these,
the
the
pink
band
coming
around
to
kind
of
bring
the
front
to
the
back.
I
like
the
front
I
like
the
back
and
and
and
I
do
like
the
mural
of
the
taco
and
the
mural
of
the
sign.
A
Comments,
thank
you
joe.
I
appreciate
that
and
and
thank
you
for
doing
all
the
homework
and
calculations
it
does
give
good
perspective,
so
I
would
agree
with
the
remain
the
other
panelists
as
well.
That
scheme
a
seems
to
be
the
most
appropriate.
I
think
also
it's
you
know
it.
It
subdues
the
sides.
Well,
it
allows
that
the
area
between
the
front
and
the
back
the
area
between
those
party
walls
to
be
something
unique.
A
I
think
if
this
building
had
kind
of
a
continuous
wall
form
wrapping,
I
think
maybe
I'd
feel
otherwise
and
gave
that
some
thought,
but
I
think
because
of
those
strong
party
walls
having
a
differentiation
between
the
front
rear
and
then
the
sides
in
comparison
is
a
little
bit
more.
It
strengthens
it
and
it
you
know
again
it
tones
it
down
to
those
parking
lot
side
and
the
adjacent
building
side.
I
agree
that
the
the
mural
painting
feels
appropriate.
A
I
think
it
was
a
little
loud
on
the
blue
and
pink
and
actually
a
little
less
legible
on
that.
I
think,
on
the
gray
black
scheme,
with
the
pink
banners
that
also
you
know
it
achieves
a
balance
between
taking
the
comments
of
the
panel
and
the
county
into
consideration,
but
also
having
fairly
good
visibility,
and
so
I
think,
that's
a
win-win
on,
especially
on
the
parking
lot
side
elevation.
A
My
my
only
remaining
concern
honestly.
I
think
the
other
panelists
have
done
a
good
job
and
I
think
the
staff
summed
up
some
of
the
things
you've
explained
the
the
rear,
the
rear
lighting
on
the
elevation
is
to
remain.
A
You've
explained
that
the
the
canopy
off
the
sidewalk
is
nine
about
nine
feet,
probably
want
that
documented.
So
the
last
remaining
thing
is:
I
know
that
you
have
eight
foot
clear,
but
I
think
the
the
bike
racks,
which
we
did
ask
for,
might
come
into
that
clear
pedestrian
zone
on
the
sidewalk.
A
So
again
I
just,
I
think
you
still
have
clearance,
but
I'd
like
to
just
take
one
last.
Look
at
that
to
ensure
that
you
know
we
haven't,
obstructed
pedestrians
for
cyclists,
and
you
know
we're
still
achieving
that,
so
they
do
protrude
out
from
where
those
planting
beds
are
into
that.
Eight
foot
zone
theoretically.
F
If
you
look
at,
if
you
zoom
in
on
that
yeah
that
the
the
eight
foot
goes
to
the
table,
our
we
have
a
circle
around
the
table,
so
the
eight
foot
actually
is
the
the
points
are
well
or
more
than
eight
feet.
A
Perfect:
okay!
Well,
that
that
clears
up
that
consideration.
So
with
that.
That
concludes
any
of
my
comments
or
questions.
So
thank
you
for
addressing
that
and
I'd
like
to.
C
Cecilia,
may
I
just
jump
in
for
one
more
comment.
A
yes
as
it
relates
to
the
staff
report.
I
think
staff
asked
the
panel
to
comment
on
the
materials.
C
I
think
I
saw
that
on
martin
on
the
staff
report.
So
I
think
part
of
our
motion
should
be
we're
in
support
or
we
make
a
propose
a
modification,
I'm
not
an
architect.
So
I
can't
really
comment
on
that.
But
perhaps
cecily
or
or
donald
can.
E
A
Here:
yeah,
okay,
okay,
so
yeah.
So
for
my
other,
the
other
panelist
members.
I
don't
want
to
be
the
sole
voice
on
this,
but
I
think
I
would
say
from
my
perspective,
the
materials
are
appropriate,
are
appropriate
to
towson
and
downtown,
and
just
overall
to
an
urban
environment
with
a
metal,
canopy
wood,
the
aluminum
composite
panel
system
and
then
I'll
also
add
for
the
lighting
that
was
shown.
This
evening
seems
appropriate,
as
well
as
the
the
mural
paint
color
materials
that
have
been
proposed.
A
Again
and
thank
you
for
the
reminder
on
that
joseph
so
with
that
and
if
there
are
no
further
questions,
I'd
like
to
ask
my
fellow
panelists,
if
there's
someone
who
would
like
to
make
a
motion.
C
This
is
joseph
youssefer.
I'd
be
happy
to
make
a
motion,
so
I
I
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
project
conditioned
upon
the
staff
report.
C
With
the
confirmation
that
the
materials
presented
by
the
applicant
are
appropriate
and
the
the
scheme,
a
with
the
colors
and
the
signage,
is
approved,.
A
Okay,
I
I
have
a
question
on
that
motion
joseph
just
because
I'm
not
sure
maybe
it
wasn't
it's
clear,
but
you
are
basically
saying
it's
condition
upon
the
staff
report
with
just
staff
review
no
need
to
come
back
to
the
drp
panel
and
that
the
conditions
that
are
noted
in
the
report
and
that
the
drp
panel
recommends
approval
of
the
materials
including
and
the
signage
is
because
they
asked
for
two
are
input
on
those
two
items
specifically.
C
B
C
To
approve
the
the
projects
such
as
the
applicant
can
work
any
minor
issues
directly
with
staff
to
approve
the
materials
as
presented
in
the
packet
and
as
it
relates
to
scheme
a
accept
and
and
approve
the
signage
depicted
in
scheme.
E
Specially,
yes,
this
is
martha.
So
in
our
staff
report
we
asked
that
the
proposed
31
address
sign
will
be
confirmed
with.
I
can
show
the
staff
report
how
it's
that,
in
our
comment,
the
sign
advertising
the
building
address-
needs
to
be
reviewed
and
accepted
by
baldwin
county
fire
department
for
appropriate.
C
Okay,
let
me
try
this
one
more
time,
so
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
project.
C
A
Okay,
well,
I
think
that
that
hit
all
those
points.
I
checked
them
off,
as
you
went
I'd
like
to
ask
for
a
second
at
this
time.
B
A
Not
hearing
everyone,
so
maybe
we
need
to
do
a
roll
call
there.
I
think
maybe
some
mics
were
off,
but
let
me
just
go
through
a
roll
call.
Just
so
I
know
we
can
hear
everyone
joseph.
A
Don't
yes,
we
still
all
need
to
vote.
Let's
see
miss
raw.
D
A
Very
good,
thank
you.
Let's
see,
let's
see
miss
sauce.
A
Here
we
go
donald
khan.