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A
View
panel
session-
and
it
goes
through
some
of
the
focus
of
our
of
our
task
here,
as
well
as
things
that
we
do
not
look
at
within
the
purview
of
design
review
panel,
so
per
title,
4,
subtitle,
2,
part,
1,
sections,
32-4-203
and
32-4-204
establish
the
design
review
panel.
The
drp
was
established
to
encourage
design
excellence
and
shall
act
in
a
consulting
and
advisory
capacity
to
the
agencies
involved
in
the
process
for
reviewing
development
plans.
The
objectives
for
the
drp's
assessment
include
spatial,
visual
and
functional
relationship
to
the
topographical
characteristics.
A
The
natural
built
features
of
the
site,
as
well
as
the
surrounding
features
of
the
site.
Visual
and
functional
integration
of
streetscapes,
pedestrian
pathways,
playgrounds,
recreational
amenities
and
parks,
streets
and
sidewalks
are
laid
out
in
a
safe
and
convenient
manner
and
parking
is
a
is
a
positive
design
element.
A
The
drp
utilizes
the
guidelines,
plans
and
architectural
principles
in
the
comprehensive
manual
of
development
policies
and
or
master
plan,
as
well
as
other
guidelines
and
regulations
adopted
into
law.
Certain
areas
of
the
county
were
designated
by
the
county
council
to
require
review
by
the
drp.
The
panel
will
provide
a
technical
review
of
the
proposed
project
issues
relative
to
zoning
setback,
relief,
environmental
and
stormwater
management
and
traffic
regulations
do
not
fall
under
the
purview
of
the
drp
and
are
regulated
through
the
appropriate
agencies
responsible
for
those
aspects
of
the
development
plan
review
process.
A
The
panel
consists
of
nine
members
all
are
professionals
with
practical
knowledge
in
the
matters
of
design
for
purposes
of
making
recommendations
on
a
particular
project,
three
members
shall
constitute
a
quorum.
The
attendance
and
comments
of
each
member
shall
be
reported
in
the
minutes,
which
shall
be
an
open
record
and
available
along
with
all
documents
submitted
to
the
panel
for
inspection
and
copying
by
the
public.
There
will
be
an
opportunity
for
the
community
to
offer
comments
and
suggestions
at
the
conclusion
of
the
applicant's
presentation.
A
These
comments
will
also
be
included
in
the
written
record
of
the
meeting
when
a
speaker
is
called
up
to
speak.
Please
keep
your
comments
focused
on
design
perspectives
within
your
allotted
two
minutes
time.
If
you
are
speaking
on
behalf
of
a
community
group,
you
will
get
five
minutes
at
the
conclusion
of
the
meeting.
The
department
of
planning
will
sum
up
the
recommendations
of
the
panel
before
a
motion
for
a
vote
is
suggested.
A
Recent
legislation
has
changed
the
panel's
recommendations
to
be
advisory
on
the
hearing
officer
and
the
various
county
agencies.
Unless
the
hearing
officer
or
agencies
find
that
the
panel's
actions
constitute
an
abuse
of
its
discretion
or
unsupported
by
the
documentation
and
evidence
presented,
disposition
of
the
plan
will
be
determined
as
either
approved
approved
with
conditions
or
additional
review
required
with
second
meaning.
A
B
Specially
this
is
matt
renault
that
can
make
it
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
A
C
Thank
you
cecily
and
good
evening.
Everybody.
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
quick
minute
to
welcome
everybody.
We
have
not
had
any
meetings
thus
far,
except
for
the
january
meeting
and
to
bring
everybody
up
to
speed.
We
did
get
some
confirmations
of
panel
member
reappointments,
so
I'd
like
to
welcome
back
reappointments
to
kelly
ennis
mr
matt
renault,
joe
yousefaro,
and
our
newly
confirmed
drp
chair,
cecily
bedwell.
C
We
thank
you
all
for
your
continued
service
and
happy
to
have
you
with
us
once
again.
For
another
term,
we
have
a
new
member
to
the
drp
who
has
been
appointed
by
the
council,
and
his
name
is
mr
james
stevens,
and
I
don't
want
to
steal
his
thunder,
so
I
will
turn
it
over
to
him
to
share
a
little
bit
about
himself
and
welcome
into
the
panel.
Mr
stevens.
C
E
F
C
C
F
C
C
A
H
Thank
you
ashley.
I
appreciate
that
my
name
is
craig
carlson
and
we
are
the
owners
of
1905
indian
head
the
the
ground
and
we're
interested
in
building
a
a
home
on
that,
and
I
know
that's
why
we're
here
together.
I
think
if
it
makes
sense
marta
to
maybe
start
with
the
the
I
was
gonna
start
actually
with
the
with
the
home,
but
if
there's
a
different
space,
a
different
place.
You'd
like
me
to
start
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
do
that.
H
I
was
going
to
allow
a
melanie
to
discuss
the
details
of
the
landscaping
site
plan,
etc.
Unless
there's
any
questions
that
you
might
have
for
me
so
great.
So
this
is
the
home
that
we're
going
to
be
building
it's
approximately
4
000
square
feet.
H
It
will
have
a
two-car
front
load
garage
due
to
the
topography
of
the
property
it'll
be
as
you
as
it's
showing
here
will
be
a
the
garage
will
be
on
the
right-hand
side.
It'll
have
a
a
full
front
covered
porch
it'll
consist
of
four
bedrooms:
three
and
a
half
bathrooms
and
an
unfinished
basement
lower
level.
A
H
Sure,
certainly,
okay
and
then
marta,
if
you
we've,
also
included,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
going
to
the
pictures
that
show
the
the
siding
and
the
on
the
roofing
material.
It's
on
one
page,
you
you
had
it
up
a
moment
ago.
It's
it
was
crack.
It's
you
go
in
the
right
direction.
Yep
there
we
go
so
there's
the
light
fixture.
Excuse
me,
there's
the
there's
the
go
ahead.
H
The
siding
the
stone
work,
the
trex
material
and
the
roofing
is
there
and
then,
if
you
would
mind
going
down
to
show
the
light
fixtures
for
the
exterior-
and
these
are
the.
I
H
J
Think
if
we
could.
H
Go
to
to
the
next
one
and
then
maybe
enlarge
the
next
one,
that's
the
one
that
was
originally
kind
of
tied
with
the
property,
and
then
we
had
one
here
that
was
actually
created
by
the
architect.
That
represents
and
shows
where
the
home
is
going
to
sit
on
the
property
where
the
front
porch
is
located
to
the
side
where
the
where
the
garage
is
located.
There
will
actually
be
a
two
car
front
load
garage
and
then
there
also
will
be
to
the
side.
H
Of
that
there
will
be
a
one
car
garage
in
the
back
of
the
of
the
garage
the
garage
is
is
is
deeper
so
that
if
you
had
a
riding
lawn
tractor
or
something
of
that
nature
or
you
wanted
to
park,
your
bikes
or
things
you'd
be
able
to
get
in
the
side
as
well
and
actually
where
it's
calling
out
to
be
concrete.
We're
gonna
do
that
in
macadam,
that'll
be
asphalt
for
that
area,
and
we
will
revise
that
and
make
that
note
on
the
plan
for
you.
H
K
Sure
thing
my
name
is
melanie
volker.
I
am
a
landscape
architect
with
human
and
roadie.
We
are
a
landscape
architecture
and
planning
firm
out
of
towson.
Our
firm
did
not
produce
the
site
plan,
but
we
produced
this
landscape
plan,
which
you
can
see
here,
and
the
site
itself
is
fairly
straightforward.
There
was
a
home
on
this
site
previously
that's
and
there
was
a
driveway.
Of
course,
the
drive
the
proposed
driveway
is
going
to
be
in
a
very
similar
location,
the
cut
on
to
where
it
was
before.
K
K
K
K
So
looking
at
the
front
elevation
of
the
house,
you
can
see
we
have
some
canopy
trees
on
either
end.
We've
left
the
front
somewhat
open
to
the
street.
That's
an
east
facing
front
porch,
so
it'd
be
nice
to
get
some
sun
in
there
and
we're
showing
a
variety
of
plant
material
with
an
ornamental
scale
tree
up
against
the
porch,
a
simple
hedge
and
some
other
smaller
shrubs
and
perennials
wrapping
the
left
side
of
the
porch,
as
the
slope
continues
to
fall
away
there
on
the
right
side,
where
the
driveway
is.
K
You
can
see
where,
as
I
said,
we
have
another
canopy
tree.
That
tree
is
going
to
be
placed
on
a
bit
of
a
rise.
There
is
some
existing
there's,
a
sort
of
a
steep
portion
of
the
site
there
that
needs
to
be
cut
back
a
little
and
the
grating
needs
to
be
smoothed
out.
K
So
there
would
be
some
evergreen
material
across
along
that
property
line.
There
there's
also
a
retaining
wall,
it's
a
little
difficult
to
see,
but
as
the
you
know,
in
order
to
create
an
adequate
driveway
size,
we're
cutting
into
the
slope
just
a
bit
there
and
there
is
a
retaining
wall
that
basically
goes
from
zero.
The
maximum
height
is
six
feet,
but
the
top
of
the
wall
is
sloping
back
down.
K
We
have
about
four
feet
on
our
property,
behind
that
retaining
wall
to
place
our
evergreen
hedge,
that
we're
proposing
there
and
then,
across
the
back
of
the
home,
we're
just
suggesting
some
simple
foundation
planting.
K
H
Thank
you
melanie.
I
appreciate
that
so
that
would
be
our
presentation
as
far
as
our
home
and
our
landscaping
and
the
design.
What
questions
might
we
answer.
L
Okay,
I
am
one
of
the
owners
on
the
property
on
the
lower
side
of
this
proposed
house,
and
I
am
also
a
specialist
in
ecology
and
native
plants
and
invasive
plants,
so
I
come
from
that
perspective.
L
My
concern
here
is,
I
don't
see
anything
in
the
plans
that
will
deal
with
the
storm
water
runoff
from
the
in
permeable
surfaces
of
the
roof
and
the
driveway,
and
I
don't
see
anything
like
a
rain
garden
or
a
place,
another
type
of
engineered
structure
to
retain
water.
There
is
a
very
big
problem
in
this
neighborhood
because
of
the
the
hill
with
the
stormwater
runoff.
The
street
has
been
eroded
in
several
places
over
time
and
fixed
up
by
the
county.
L
There's
also
a
blow
my
property,
a
storm
drain
to
the
stream
there's
serious
erosion
there
and
in
all
the
landscaping
and
the
construction
here,
I
do
not
see
anything
that
will
deal
with
that
or
keep
the
water
out
of
the
jones
falls.
That
then
goes
into
the
chesapeake
bay
and
affects
the
health
of
the
bay.
I
know
that
my
two
neighbors
down
from
me
also
have
issues
with
storm
water.
I
realize
there's
a
separate
mechanism
to
deal
with
storm
water,
but
it
needs
to
be
designed
into
the
property
here.
L
I'm
sorry.
What
was
that
your
two
minutes
is
up.
Okay,
I'll
just
say
that
I
also
have
some
issues
with
the
plant
material
that
are
chosen
and
if
I
can
take
more
time
later
on
that
that's
great,
if
not,
I
can
talk
to
people
individually.
H
H
That
we
could
respond
to
very
quickly
by
by
next
week
to
have
it
into
your
hands.
A
Okay
and
sorry,
I'd
taken
a
note
from
jennifer.
Are
there
other
speakers?
I
thought
there
was
only
other
one
other
or
only
one.
There.
C
Is
christopher
millard
he
chatted
in
that
he
would
like
to
make
some
comments.
A
F
Mr
christopher
mallard
miller,
sorry,
I
am
muted
here
you
should
be
able
to
speak
and
you
have
two
minutes.
F
Not
sure
if
he
can
hear
us,
I
don't
think
so
that
he's
unmuted
on
my
end.
C
C
I'm
just
going
to
reiterate
again
that
stormwater
management,
design
and
maintenance
is
not
under
the
purview
of
the
drp.
So
once
this
project
does
get
through
the
design
review
panel,
it
will
have
to
go
through
the
county,
permitting
review
process.
C
So
issues
about
stormwater
management,
design
and
maintenance,
as
well
as
sediment
control
and
erosion
during
construction
measures,
will
have
to
be
put
in
place
for
insta
for
the
construction
to
begin,
and
so
a
field
visit
is
conducted
by
the
county
to
make
sure
those
measures
are
put
in
place.
So
I've
gone
ahead
and
answered
that.
F
H
You
thank
you
jennifer,
and
I
was
not
aware
of
that.
I
I
I
you
guys
did
read
that
in
the
beginning
and
I
I
obviously
had
missed
that
I
apologize
so
I
will
go
ahead
and
we'll
follow
the
the
correct
guidelines
to
make
sure
that
the
stormwater
management
is
put
in
place,
that's
required
by
the
county,
along
with
sediment
control
and
fencing
per
the
requirements
of
the
permitting.
So
I
I
guess
I'll
retract
what
I
said
that
I'll
get
back
to
the
committee,
because
it's
not
appropriate
for
me
to
do
that.
H
A
Right,
thank
you
and
I'll
just
double
check.
Marta.
Are
there
any
other
further
folks
signed
up
from
the
community
to
speak.
A
Okay-
oh
okay,
very
good
with
that.
Sorry,
I'm
a
bit
off
track
with
my
schedule,
but
I
I
do
believe
that
we
move
next
to
the
county's
report
and
I'll
turn
that
over
to
marta
to
go
through
so
cecily.
A
So,
thank
you.
I
will
pick
up
on
that
one
day,
so
forgetting
that
and
then
moving
on
before
we
move
on
typically
for
these
fran
would
go
first,
but
since
we
had
a
bit
of
an
audio
issue-
and
I
see
that
james
stevens
is
back
online
with
us-
I'd
like
to
open
the
floor
for
his
brief,
inter
introduction
and
try
that
again
before
we
move
to
comments.
James
are
you
there.
G
There's
no
echo
chamber
I'll
start
by
saying
I
apologize
for
the
very
very
odd
beginning,
but
it's
it's
a
joy
to
be
on
this
panel.
I
it
it
really
came
from
nowhere
up
to
you
know.
You
know
sam
called
me
and
and
and
and
it
started
there
and-
and
I
am
here
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
participating
and
being
a
a
a
you
know,
a
prominent
member
on
this
panel
and
and
and
moving
forward.
My
experience
is,
I
am,
I
have
30
years
in
the
architectural
field.
G
I
as
it
stands
right
now.
I
would
probably
say
I'm
a
sole
practitioner.
That's
semi-retired!
So
I'll
leave
it
at
that,
but
I'm
I'm
looking
forward
to
being
a
participant
on
this
panel.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I'm
very
sorry
for
the
beginning
of
this.
H
H
E
Thanks
cecily,
mr
carlson,
I'm
sorry
I
couldn't,
I
know
you're
the
property
owner.
Are
you
the
also
they're
going
to
be
the
occupant
of
the
home.
H
I'm
not
we're
going
to
be
building
the
home.
We
have
folks
that
are
interested
in
it,
but
there's
nothing.
That's
been
finalized
yet
got.
E
It,
okay!
That's
that's!
That's
great.
I
appreciate
the
clarification
so
a
couple
of
couple
of
things,
kind
of
just
off
the
top
in
terms
of
the
drawings-
and
I
don't
know
whoever
I
guess
smart.
If
you're
controlling
us,
you
just
go
to
the
front
elevation
or
or
whichever
is
fine,
so
the
question.
E
The
first
question
I
have
is
on
your
drawings:
you've
provided
elevations
and
you've,
provided
what
confused
me
a
little
at
first,
which
I
thought
were
which
appear
to
be
alternates
in
the
partial
elevations
that
you've
provided,
which
is
the
correct
I
mean.
I
know
you
address
the
front
elevation
with
the
garage,
but
you've
got
also
the
same
partials
on
your
other
elevations
that
show
a
walkout
basement
versus
you
know,
and
you've
got
a
balcony
and
a
fifth
a
bedroom
note,
which
is
the
which
are
the
right
and
correct
elevations
for
us
to
be
reviewing.
H
Sure
so,
looking
at
the
page
that
we're
looking
at
now,
fran
would
be.
Is
it
okay
to
call
you
friendship,
please
thank
you.
Looking
at
the
front
elevation
that
you're
seeing
now
we're
demonstrating
that
we
are
doing
the
house
that
you're
seeing
and
so
so
this
time
we
would
also
be
building
in
other
areas
as
well.
So
architect
has
a
set
of
plans
that
that
we
would
use,
and
then
we
would
have
specifics
denoted
by
certain.
These
are
this
area,
for
example,
in
the
front
one.
H
So
this
is
saying
that
we're
using
this
the
front
load
garage
of
this
front
elevation,
so
this
this
piece,
if
you
will,
would
sit
over
top
of
that
and
if
you'd
like
me
to,
we
would
be
more
than
happy
to
to
kind
of
cut
and
paste
and
put
that
over
top
of
it
and
eliminate
that
if
you,
if
you
prefer
for
us
to
do
that,
we'd
be
happy
to
do
that.
For
you.
E
It
would
be
a
preference
obviously
to
have
the
actual.
You
know
intended
construction
document
in
one
piece.
Well,.
H
Certainly
so
again
so
on
the
second
one,
the
cutaway,
the
lot
would
lend
itself
to
a
walkout
basement
the
property
because
it
slopes
down
from
right
to
left.
So
that
would
be
that
that
bottom
configuration
that
shows
that
sliding
glass
door
at
the
base,
okay.
So
on
the
bottom
of
the
page,
if
you're
as
you're
looking
at
the
page,
it
would
be
the
lower
right
side
right
there
right.
I
H
H
H
And
then,
if
we
go
to
the
right
side
elevation,
it
would
be
as
you're
saying
the
it
would
be,
the
one
that
shows
the
one
car
garage
there
on
the
side,
because
that's
that
back
section,
if
you
will
right
and
then
it
shows
the
it
shows
the
the
fireplace
as
well
as
along
with
the
window
just
above
it
as
well
and,
like
I
said,
we'd,
be
more
than
happy
to
kind
of
cut
and
paste
and
get
it
into
one
picture
for
you.
E
E
So
so
that
I
appreciate
that,
and
so
that
brings
me
to
my
my
questions,
so
you
made
a
decision
to
bring
two
of
the
three
garage
doors
to
the
front
and
do
a
front
loaded
garage
on
two
versus
having
a
side
loaded
on
three.
What
what
drove
that
decision.
H
The
area
to
the
right
of
the
garage
is
too
tight
of
an
area
to
do
a
three-car
garage.
The
idea
of
that
third
car
garage
that
is
to
the
side
is
for
a
tractor
for
bikes
for
convenience,
or
maybe
there's
a
small
car
that
you'd
want
to
park
there
or
something
of
that
nature
or,
if
you're,
a
motorcycle
driver.
You
could
utilize
that
space
back
there.
E
Okay,
so
if
you
were
to
do
the
side
loaded
garage,
could
you
sight
the
house
such
that
you
moved
it
slightly
to
it?
I
don't
know
east
west
but
plan.
H
If
we,
if
we
continue
to
push
the
the
the
house
down
the
property
line,
so
to
speak,
it
starts
to
drop
off
fairly
dramatically,
are
have
you
have
you
ever
had
a
chance
to
see
the
site.
H
So
it
drops
off
quite
dramatically,
which,
which
is
why
the
house
is
cited
where
it
is
we're
also
trying
to
maintain
the
existing
drive
as
well.
That
was
already
there.
Instead
of
creating
another
area,
that
would
be
a
you
know.
That
would
be
another
area
that
would
be
impervious
right,
so
we're
trying
to
utilize
that
space
as
well.
E
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
from
my
perspective,
you
know
in
in
doing
the
front
loaded,
two-car
garage
in
the
front.
You
know
you've
left
yourself
with
two
inferior
elevations
to
what
were
on
your
previous
straw
right
because,
as
I
look
at
the
front
of
the
house
now,
you've
got
the
two-car
garage
on
the
front
of
the
house.
You've
got
a
single
garage
door
on
the
side
and
that
side
elevation
is
a
pretty
big
mass
of
you
know
just
blank.
E
You
know
vinyl
siding
frankly
plus
in
addition
to
that,
you've
you've
increased
your
impervious
surface.
You
know
beyond
what
you
really
would
need
to
do
for
the
side.
Loaded
garage,
although
I
know
there'd,
be
some
net
net
on
the
widening
of
that
driveway
to
make
the
turn
right,
but
you've
added
a
lot
of
impervious
surface
to
the
front
of
the
house.
E
I
just
think
the
the
the
the
side
loaded
design
is
a
better
design,
both
from
a
perspective
of
the
homeowner
but
also
perspective
of
the
neighborhood
and
looking
at
both
the
front
and
the
side
in
particular.
The
side
elevation
I'll
leave
that
there
and
others
can
comment
on
that
and
and
I've
heard
your
and
I'll
give
you
a
couple
other
quick
things
here.
So
as
I
dominate
the
time
in
the
drawing
you,
you
call
out
a
shake
style
sighting,
but
in
your
materials
you
show
a
hearty
basically
a
hearty
plank
siding.
H
E
Shake
is
correct.
That
is
correct.
Okay,
thank
goodness,
because
I
thought
going
from
the
hearty
plank
to
the
vinyl
flanks.
Vinyl
siding
was
going
to
be
a
terrible
transition.
So
that's
good
on
the
plus
side.
I
do
have
some
concerns
about
the
color
and-
and
I
don't
usually
dive
too
deeply
into
color,
but
the
colors
are
very
similar.
E
If
that's
the
color,
that
the
shake
is
going
to
be
with
the
siding,
it's
almost
going
to
feel
like
they're
meant
to
be
the
same,
but
they're
not
the
same
and
that's
as
far
as
my
color
expertise
goes,
but
but
I
I
just
concerns
about
the
you
know
the
nature
of
the
color
next
to
each
other
and
the
trim.
The
trim
is
white
at.
H
The
corner
exactly
and
that
becomes
a
really
nice
transition
and
it
almost
becomes
a
shadowing
effect.
If
you
will
a
framewear
where,
when,
when
the,
when
the
sun
hits
it
on
the
front
and
it's
shading
on
the
side
or
whatever
the
case
might
be
the
the
definition
of
the
extra
you
know
six
inches
on
either
side
for
these
corners.
It
really
does
create
a
separation,
and
we've
had
great
success
to
doing
that,
because
the
siding
colors
as
you've
just
stated,
don't
match
each
other
perfectly.
H
H
I'm
sorry,
let
me
jump
in
I
I
actually
we
we've
actually
have
answered
that.
What
we're
going
to
do
with
this
particular
home
is
and
again
I'll
make
sure
that
this
is
included.
When
I
do
the
re
revision
to
the
front
of
the
house,
we've
actually
decided
to
do
the
entire
house
in
hardy,
so
we're
going
to
make
sure
the
entire
thing
matches.
I
apologize.
I
I'd
forgotten
that
for
a
moment.
I
H
H
E
So
that's
gonna.
That's
gonna
really
help
a
lot.
If,
if
I
could
say
you
know
they're
on
the
back
elevation
in
particular-
and
I
know
I
don't
really-
we
don't
really
get
into
interior,
you
know
design
that
kind
of
thing.
You
know
some
of
the
layout
of
the
windows.
It's
got
on
the
back
they're
a
little
bit.
What's
the
right
word
sort
of
laid
out
in
a
fairly
not
uniform
way.
E
I
don't
expect
you
to
change
your
interior
for
this
comment.
Others
might
have
other
comments
and
concerns.
You've
got
different
size
windows.
You
can
see
it
in
the
middle
there
different
size,
their
layout
is
kind
of
funny.
There's
not
a
lot
of
a
lot
of.
You
know
uniformity
there.
That
makes
me
comfortable,
but
it
is
the
back
elevation
and
you
don't
face
any
enablers
right
and
it
is
the
the
wooded
area.
So
I'm
not
overly
concerned
about
that,
but
I'll
bring
it
up
in
case.
Others
have
concerns.
E
H
So
so
the
layout
of
the
windows
are
based
on
the
interior
design
and
the
layout
of
the
home.
So
so,
for
example,
the
two
smaller
windows
are
related
to
bath
areas
and
we
wanted
to
have
some
sort
of
natural
lighting
into
the
bathrooms,
so
those
are
actually
there.
They
typically
will
sit
above
a
toilet,
for
example,
and
that'll
allow
natural
light
into
that
space,
the
the
small
window
to
the
to
the
far
left,
that's
a
transom
that
sits
in
the
shower
area
again
to
bring
some
natural
light
into
those
spaces.
E
Yeah
yeah
now
I
get
it
and
I
don't
expect
to
make
interior
changes
for
these
discussions.
It's
just
sometimes
folks
on
this
call
have
better
ideas.
What
to
do
with
windows
than
I
do,
and
I
might
have
some
comments
last
question
on
the
back
is:
is
the
stone
gonna
come
all
the
way
around
the
back
in?
In
that
walkout
we
have
the
slider
there.
E
Good
and
let
me
see
if
I
had
anything
else.
E
No,
but
I
would
reiterate
my
comment
about
the
about
the
side
loaded
garage,
you
know
others
can
can
can
provide
their
opinions,
but
I
really
do
think
it's
a
better,
better
option
for
the
house,
but
I
think
that's
it.
I
should
also
mention,
because
I
represent
the
community.
E
I
didn't
get
february's
for
everybody
else.
I
did
not
really
get
much
feedback
from
the
ruxin
ryder
with
association.
E
I
E
And
you
just
didn't
get
responses.
Is
that
right?
That's
correct,
okay,
okay,
all
right!
Well
as
long
as
the
letters
went
out,
although
typically
we
do
like
to
make
sure
that
that
there's
a
meeting
set
up
by
the
association
for
the
neighbors
to
attend.
I
will
investigate
that
piece
of
the
puzzle
and
see
why
that
didn't
happen.
I
H
M
I
think
that
was
pretty
comprehensive.
Mr
anderson
said,
and
my
only
concern.
Oh
sorry,
my
video
is
off.
Excuse
me,
my
only
other
concern
was
about
drainage
and
storm
water
management,
but
it
seems
that
that
will
be
properly
addressed.
So
yes,
I
don't
have
any
further
comments
to
add.
Thank
you.
B
Just
the
only
question
or
comment
was
the
retaining
wall
on
the
I
guess,
it's
the
page,
north
property
line.
It
just
feels
a
bit
tight
along
the
property
line,
so
we
just
want
to
make
sure
there's
enough
space
for
the
retaining
wall
and
the
geo
grid
and
being
able
to
get
the
plant
material
up
on
top
as
proposed
without
having
any
issues
on
that
property
line.
H
Yes,
yeah
we're
we're
able
to
do
that.
We've
we've
been
in
situations
similar
to
that
in
the
past
and
we're
able
to
work
within
that
four
feet,
not
getting
in
any
way
on
the
neighbor's
property
and
being
able
to
create
that
permanent
evergreen
hedge
rail
to
create
some
some
separation
and
privacy
between
the
homes.
Okay,
great.
B
J
I
agree
with
with
fran
as
well.
I
think
his
the
side
loaded
garage
is
absolutely
the
comments,
absolutely
should
be
considered
and
it
was
extremely
thorough
review.
G
Sure,
thank
you
I,
I
guess
mr
anderson
you're
quite
thorough
in
your
comments.
What
I
want
to
add
is
and
and
reviewing
the
exterior
elevations
are.
We
I
saw
a
lot
of
vinyl.
Siding
is
so
that
all
that's
becoming
hardy
plank
is.
Is
that
the
case.
H
Go
ahead,
I
was
just
going
to
tell
you.
The
shaker
style
is
really
a
a
compliment
to
the
front
of
the
home
versus
having
horizontal
for
all
four
sides,
so
we
wanted
to
try
to
take
the
front
of
the
house
and
dress
it
the
size
in
the
rear
on
all
the
homes
that
we've
we've
ever
built.
We've
we've
built
close
to
500
homes
in
the
county
and
all
the
homes
that
we've
ever
built
with
again.
H
Similarly,
we
did
the
shakers
on
the
front
and
did
the
horizontals
on
the
side
and
would
be
more
than
happy
to
to
also
kind
of
give
you
some
pictures
as
well
of
that.
If,
if
that's
something
that
would
be
helpful,
sir.
G
Well,
okay,
so
I
was
just
thinking
this:
the
the
shaker
can
consume
the
side,
elevations
and
not
the
rear.
I
mean
the
rear
to
me.
Could
could
stay
that
that
simple
hearty
plank,
I
mean
that
that's
just
my
thinking
also
I
I
guess
the
this.
The
stone
veneer
on
the
base
is,
and
so
that's
is
that
just
going
to
be
in
the
front,
because
that
kind
of
I
kind
of
see
that
is
taking
the
turn
on
the
side.
Also,
we.
H
If
you
look
at
the
picture,
sir
you'll
notice
that
that's
up
right
now,
if
you
could
go
back
to
well,
you
can
see
around
the
windows
it's
kind
of
like
if
it's
almost
saying
that
below
that
area
is
actually
earth.
If
you
will
so
to
speak,
so
so
the
the
they're
flashing
pretty
quickly
the
picture.
So
yeah
you.
If
you
look
you'll,
see
if
if
they
were,
if
we
could
maybe
bring
up
the
rear
for
just
a
moment.
H
Let
me
let
me
just
show
you
real
quickly,
so
you,
if
you
see
where
the
siding
stops
and
you
can
see
kind
of
the
dotted
area,
that's
the
area
that
would
be
stone
if
you
go
to
the
lower
left
corner
you'll,
see
where
the
walk
out
is
you'll
see
that
it's
got
stone
all
the
way
around
that
that
door
down
there.
That's
actually
stone
those
that
area,
that's
kind
of
shaded.
If
you
will.
G
I
H
So
if
we
could,
if
we
could,
if
you
look
at
this,
there's
an
assumption
there
from
the
architect,
mr
stevens,
that
that
the
earth
comes
up
to
that
point
where
that
kind
of
angled
line
is,
if
you
will,
in
other
words,
that's
just
his
assumption,
whatever
the
topography
lend
itself
to
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
stone
to
that
area
so
that
all
of
the
exposed
foundation
actually
covered
in
stone.
I
agree
with
that.
I
think
that's
the
way
to
handle
it.
G
G
You
know
not
only
how
the
the
materials
work
together,
but
you
know
yeah
really
how
the
materials
work
together
together
from
an
aesthetic
point
of
view
and
and
the
color
perspective
we
would.
We
would
really
be
able
to
feel
the
exterior
elevations
a
lot
better
and
understand
them
a
lot
better.
If,
if
we
actually
had
a
rendering.
G
So
that
that
that's
that's,
that's
my
take
on
that.
It's
you
know
these
black
and
whites
are,
are
fine,
the
materials
I
mean.
I
don't
have
much.
You
know
the
materials
work
but
to
actually
understand
how
it
how
it
feels
from
you
know
if
the
renderings,
if
the
elevations
were
rendered,
we
would
really
get
an
understanding
of
of
how
everything
works
together
from
aesthetic
and
color
perspective.
That's
all,
I
guess.
The
only
other
comment
I
have
is
I
I
have
to
say
that
you
know
having
the
the
garage.
G
The
the
three
car
garage
on
the
side
would
probably
be
the
best
scenario
for
this:
this
house,
just
having
that
two-car
garage
on
the
front
elevation,
it's
not
the
the
best
use
of
of
of
that
facade,
so
I'm
I'm
in
unison
with
that
with
the
balance
of
the
members,
but
most
definitely
I
I
think
the
renderings
would
help
with
us
understanding
the
the
entire
composition
of
this
house.
G
Okay,
well,
well,
I'll
tell
you
what,
if
I
mean,
if
you
can
just
do
the
front,
what
it
would
be,
give
us
some
idea.
Well,
I
kind
well,
it's
it!
Well,
it's
it's
just
a
matter
of
putting
color
on
the
exterior
elevations
yeah,
not
not
perspectives.
Okay!
So,
and
that's
that's
my
take
on
that
very
good.
A
Thank
you
james.
Oh.
A
And
so
I'll
just
add-
and
I
think
I'll
reiterate
and
then
just
add
a
few
comments.
I
think
you've
probably
heard
through
this
evening
with
my
other
colleagues
that
I
think
some
of
the
the
drawing
and
labeling
is
a
bit
off,
and
so
I
think
you
know
having
a
full
set
that
portrays
what
the
intent
is
and
is
labeled.
A
I
agree
with
my
colleagues
that
the
you
know
it
does
look
to
be
a
different
rendering
style
for
the
stone
veneer
versus
what
what
looks
to
be
just
a
concrete.
A
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
you
are
on
board
with
wrapping
that
stone,
but
I
think
the
drawings
need
to
show
that
and
label
that
oh
and
I
would
say
also
for
the
you
know,
make
it
clear
about
the
the
shake
style
versus
the
clapboard
and
that
the
materials
are.
You
know,
as,
as
you
have
said
it's
going
to
be
all
hearty.
I
think
that
needs
to
be
represented,
there's
one
other.
A
I
agree
with
the
other
comments
about
the
rear
windows,
but
because
this
is
so
low
visibility
to
the
rear,
I
don't
think
there's
any
need
to
re-tinker.
I
always
hope
that
people
will
design
a
building
in
whole,
both
interior
and
exterior,
and
just
you
know,
have
that
in
mind,
as
they're
laying
out
rooms
in
a
building,
but
given
that
it's
the
rear
facade-
and
it's
mainly,
you
know,
trees
and
there's
no
direct
street
views.
A
I
that's
not
not
a
point
that
we
will
fall
on
or
sword
on
a
couple
other
things
that
I
had
noted
the
the
trees
to
be
removed.
We
we
heard
that,
but
I'm
not
clear
on
which
trees
and
you
know
what
caliper
those
existing
trees
are.
Are
they?
You
know
what
what
is
the
assessment
of
those
trees?
And
then
you
know
if
those
are
a
large
caliper
tree
are
the
trees
that
are
replacing
them.
You
know
a
little
bit
larger
caliper.
Then
then
you
would
typically
find
in
nursery
stock.
H
I'm
going
to
allow
melanie,
if
you
wouldn't
mind,
addressing
that,
that
the
there's
I
don't
actually
know,
I'm
not
an
expert
to
understand
the
size
or
calibers
of
trees.
One
thing
that
I
have
to
mention
is
that
I
have
I
have
standing
with
me.
Is
a
brendan
carlson
he's
our
senior
vice
president
of
the
company
and
he
actually
has
to
take
over.
For
me,
I
have
a.
I
have
a
a
commitment.
H
I
have
little
guys
little
guys
much
younger
than
than
brendan
that
I've
gotta
deal
with
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
separate,
but
he's
gonna,
step
right
in
and
then
he'll
continue
with
the
meeting
with
everybody
and
everyone.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
input
and
thoughts.
I
thought
that
they
were
very
constructive
and
very
helpful,
and
I
really
appreciated
that,
and
and
now
here's
brendan.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
mr
carlson,
okay,
so
we
were
talking
about
tree
size,
so
I
will
ask
human
and
rhodey,
I'm
sorry.
Is
it
mallory
or
melanie
melanie
melanie?
If
you
could
address
that,
no.
K
K
We
didn't
actually
do
you
know
a
tree
inventory
or
anything
like
that,
because
there's
so
much
forest
buffer
on
the
site
already
in
the
back,
so
we
really
just
did
a
sort
of
a
traditional
landscape
plan.
Here
we
did
visit
the
site
and
there
are
a
couple
of
I
think
there
were
white
pines
that
are
sort
of
toward
the
end
of
their
life.
K
I
I
don't
recall
anything.
There
may
have
been
one
other
canopy
tree
that
that
was
yes.
There
was
an
oak
tree.
It
was
not
a
huge
caliber.
I
think
it
was
probably
eight
inch
off
the
top
of
my
head,
something
like
that,
but
don't
hold
me
to
it.
That
is,
that
is
toward
the
front
that
is
toward
indian
head
road.
K
So
we
did
I'm
sorry.
We
didn't
actually
do
an
inventory.
If
that's
something
you
know,
that
needs
to
be
done.
Of
course,
we
could
again.
A
We
can
you
just
address
what
size,
those
especially
the
shade
trees
that
I
see
here
on
the
plan
at
the
front.
You
know
what
what
caliper
are
those
indicated.
K
As
sorry
yeah,
the
proposed
trees
normally
go
in
about
two
and
a
half
inches,
so
that's
a
good
enough
size
to
make
to
make
a
statement
when
they
go
in,
but
it's
a
small
enough
size
to
where
they
establish
quickly
and
they
actually
grow
quickly.
K
Sometimes
you
put
entries
that
are
too
big,
then
they
just
shock
and
don't
grow
very
quickly,
and
I
would
have
to
refer
to
the
plant
list
to
see
what
size
I
specified
for
the
for
the
evergreen
trees
there,
but
we
typically
specify
like
an
8-10
foot,
and
I
have
a
couple
of
magnolia
virginiana,
which
are
probably
8-10
foot
as
well,
so
a
reasonable
size.
I
would
say.
A
Yeah,
that
sounds
good.
I'm
certainly
not
concerned
about
white
pines
being
removed
and
replaced
with
something
else,
and
if
it's
an
eight
inch
or
approximate
eight
inch
oak
and
you're
going
with
two
and
a
half
inch
caliper
shade
tree
replacements,
I
think
that's
appropriate
as
well,
so
that
that
takes
care.
Of
of
that,
I
do
have
one
well.
I
have
you
and
just
I
think
this
is
just
maybe
an
incorrect
note
on
the.
I
think
it
was
the
first
page
second
to
last
bullet
marta.
A
If
you
could
pull
that
up,
it's
within
the
letter
portion
of
the
submission
yeah.
It's
really
on
that
first
page
and
a
second
to
last
bullet
says
something
to
the
effect
of
you
know:
eight
bushes
and
three
flats
of
seasonal
flowers,
and
I
was
looking
at
that
going.
Well,
that's
not
a
lot
of
landscape.
Then,
following
that
that
page
there
obviously
are
your
landscape
plans
that
specify
a
lot
of
different
quantities,
and
so
I'm
guessing
that's
just
an
incorrect
statement
or
a
carryover.
So
is
that
correct?
A
Okay,
all
right
very
good,
last
question,
I
think,
is
on
the
stone.
So
this
is
a
manufactured
stone
and
it
looks
like
there
is
a
stone
sill,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
called
out
and
I'm
not
sure
a
projection
is
shown.
Usually
we
like
to
see
at
least
three
quarter
inch
projection
of
a
capstone
above
a
water
table
stone
base,
I'm
just
looking
for
confirmation
that
that
would
be
included
and
that
it
would
be
have
a
certain
projection.
A
A
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
to
study
that
and
to
see
if
shifting
I
don't
know
how
many
feet
you'd
have
to
shift
that
to
the
south
to
be
able
to
accommodate
a
turnaround
for
that
driveway.
But
I
do
think
it
would
improve
a
number
of
things.
You
know
the
street
appearance,
the
elevations
both
front
and
side,
as
well
as
limiting
the
impervious
surface
and
diminishing
cars
parked
out
in
front
of
the
the
house
on
that.
K
I
didn't
know
if
you
wanted
me
to
speak
quickly
about
the
side
load
garage.
I
know
that's
been
something
a
lot
of
people
have
asked
about
and
I'm
sorry
I
didn't,
you
know,
produce
the
site
plan,
but
there
are
some
things
that
kind
of
stand
out
on
the
plan
existing
the
proposed
width.
So
if
that
were
a
side
load
garage
or
from
that
third
car,
it
looks
like
there's
about
30
feet
from
the
face
of
the
side
elevation
to
our
proposed
retaining
wall,
that's
adequate
for
turnaround,
but
it's
not
ideal,
typically
for
residential.
K
It
would
take
a
little
bit
of
I
think,
like
you
said,
maybe
some
study
from
the
engineer
who
produced
the
plan
to
see
if
we
were
able
to
slide
the
residence
south
without
hitting
that
front
building
setback
line
and-
and
again
I
know,
there's
concern
about
you-
know
screening
between
the
proposed
driveway
and
the
existing
home,
and
I
don't
think
we
want
to
reduce
that
dimension
at
all.
And
I
don't
think
anyone
was
you
know
suggesting
that.
K
But
it
looks
like
the
front
corner
of
the
porch
is
nearly
on
the
setback
line.
So
it
just
doesn't
seem
like
there's
a
lot
of
room
to
slide
the
house
to
the
south
to
get
another
even
two
to
four
feet
for
the
for
the
driveway
to
really
become
functional
as
a
what
I
would
consider
functional
for
for
the
cars
to
pull
out
on
the
side.
But
again,
that's
just
taking
a
look
at
it.
I
didn't
you
know,
create
the
plan.
A
Right
yeah,
I
mean
you're
right,
it
does
look
like
the
house
corner
or
the
porch
corner
sits
right
on
that
setback
line,
so
you
would
have
to
if
you
were
just
to
move
it
vertically
to
the
south.
You
would
have
to
also
move
it
horizontally
to
the
west
to
to
achieve
that.
There
might
be
a
little
wiggle
room
in
there,
but
you
don't
want
to
be
probably
directly
on
that
and
then
I
guess
the
other
question,
then,
is
the
orientation
of
their
homes.
A
Are
they
are
I'm
looking
at
the
plan
now
trying
to
find
the
one
that
shows
the
other?
The
other
houses,
at
least
the
one
to
the
north,
is
oriented
directly
north
south.
That's
in
line
alignment
with
indian
head
road,
whereas
this
house
could
rotate
to
be
along
the
front
property
line.
Maybe
you
know
I
don't.
That
would
not
help
your
driveway
situation,
though,
so
it
might
be
best
to
slide
it
both
south
and
west.
If
the
orientation
is
correct
to
achieve
that
extra
five
foot
dimension,
I
agree,
I
think
I
mean
30
is
adequate.
A
K
I
understand
the
comment
I
just
wanted
to
reflect.
What
I
happen
to
see
the
septic
is
there
to
the
west,
so
we
have
to
be
20
feet
from
that,
but
there
may
indeed
be
some
wiggle
room,
so
yeah.
A
So
with
that,
I
think
the
conclusion
of
all
comments
from
the
panel
I'll
look
to
others
here
to
move
towards
a
motion
to
incorporate
some
of
those.
Those
comments
made.
E
Cecilia
is
fran.
Can
I
ask
you
a
quick
question
of
craig
just
to
say
you,
you
always
obviously
had
options
here.
Did
you
do
a
study
as
to
the
full
side,
loaded
and
the
parameters,
because
you
came
to
some
conclusions,
I
suspect,
somewhere
in
your
planner's
file.
There
is
a
couple
of
sketches
that
maybe
perhaps
took
your
because
this
is
a
this.
Is
a
house
you
you've
designed
elsewhere?
Do
you
know
if
you
did
the
studies.
N
Yeah,
so
basically
in
our
in
our
research,
like
melanie,
said
typically,
when
you
have
less
than
35
feet,
it's
not
enough
for
three
cars
to
have
a
turnaround,
and
I
guess
what's
different
in
this
case
is
typically
when
you
have
the
30
feet
that
sometimes
works
out
you
have
about.
You
know
you
have
about
three
to
four
feet
from
the
back
of
your
car
that
you
can
go
to
the
edge
so
in
reality
about
34
feet
of
space,
typically,
because
your
tires
are
about
four
feet
away
from
the
edge
of
the
vehicle.
N
So
in
this
case
you
actually
have
a
strict
30
feet,
which
makes
a
little
bit
tight,
and
then
we
also
did
look
into
moving
the
the
house
as
well,
and
then
we
came
to
areas
with
setbacks
and
building
restriction
lines,
and
things
like
that,
and
so
we
we
ideally
would
have
would
have
proposed
the
three-car
garage.
We
actually
felt
the
two-car
front-load
garage
and
the
third
car
on
the
side
was
was
best
in
the
scenario
given
the
restrictions
of
the
piece
of
ground,
yeah.
E
E
At
was
not
so
much
the
study
of
30
to
35
feet.
It
was
the
sighting
of
the
building.
Yep,
there's
a
reason
you
shoved
it.
I
don't
mean
shoved
it
battery,
but
the
reason
you
that
you
sighted
it
only
30
feet
away
from
that
retaining
wall,
and
it
probably
has
something
much
more
to
do
with
the
other
end
right,
and
so
that's
what
I
was
looking
for
was
the
study
at.
E
Why
you
you
moved
it
as
far
to
the
plan
north
as
you
did,
and
and
because
I
can
just
tell
you
if
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
here,
it's
going
to
ask
you
to
do
to
provide
additional
study
on
the
siding
of
the
house
to
get
the
three-car
side-loaded
garage,
and
you
know
I
any
information
you
have
now
is
great.
E
The
other
question
I
had
was,
if
you
did
that
study,
given
the
grades
that
create
a
situation
where
you
were,
then
you
know
having
import
or
fill
material
in
order
to
site
the
house
further
to
the
to
the
plant
south-
and
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
question,
but
I'm
throwing
it
out
there.
So
that
being
said,
if
you
want
me
to
make
a
motion,
I'm
happy
to
do
it.
I
E
Yeah,
I'm
a
little,
maybe
I'll,
ask
jennifer
quickly.
Does
the
does
the
study
on
the
sighting
of
the
house
go
beyond
what
you'd
be
comfortable
with,
as
a
you
know,
resubmit
just
for
for
staff
to
review.
E
D
E
All
right,
so
then
here's
what
I'll
I'll
move
that
the
project
be
approved
with
the
following
conditions
and
comments
that
the
plans
be
revised
to
accurately
reflect
the
final
and
correct
elevations
and
materials
schedules,
including
signing
stone
and
and
other
materials
shown
and
submitted,
and
that
the
property
owners
submit
a
study
showing
a
the
three
car
side,
loaded
garage
and
the
impact
on
the
site
and
their
ability
to
meet.
That
condition
that
it
be
returned
to
staff
and
staff
will
review
with
the
committee
chair
or
the
panel
chair.
A
A
G
A
I
I
think
that
was
unanimous,
so
were
there
any
nays
hearing,
no
nays
and
hearing
a
unanimous
support
that
motion
is
carried
and-
and
that
brings
us
to
a
conclusion
on
that
item.
So
thank
you,
presenters
for
sharing
that
with
us
today
and
answering
questions
that
we
had
and
agreeing
to
to
to
come
back
with
some
revised
drawings,
very
good.
So
the
last
piece
of
this
is
do
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
the
meeting.