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From YouTube: Beacon Planning Board 7-12-22
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The City of Beacon Planning Board Meeting from Tuesday, July 12, 2022
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B
You
so
I'll,
just
briefly,
I
think
when
I
was
on
it
was
early
morning
just
the
next
day.
So
what
we're
doing
is
we're
we're
going
to
use
an
existing
38-foot
pole
to
utility
poles
wooden
utility
pole
owned
by
central
hudson
gas
and
electric
we're
going
to
install
one
antenna
part
way
up
the
pole
with
some
equipment.
It
looks
like
standard
utility
equipment
that
you
would
see
on
any
utility
pole,
it's
actually
less
than
some
of
the
equipment.
You
see.
B
B
We
need
a
bunch
of
these
little
nodes
to
make
up
for
that
coverage
that
will
be
lost
from
from
mount
beacon.
Mount
beacon
was
a
legacy
site
that
is
just
no
longer
useful
to
us
because
of
the
fact
that
the
network
has
basically
evolved
so
much.
So
that's
the
purpose
of
it
and
I'm
happy
to
entertain
any
questions.
A
E
B
Unfortunately,
our
engineers
on
vacation,
so
I
haven't,
been
able
to
communicate
with
him.
I
looked
at
the
plans.
I
see
what
you're
talking
about.
I
know
we
do
have
sections
in
the
plans
to
talk
about
where
the
grounding
rods
will
go.
There's
a
note
there
that
says
it
will
be
repaired,
but
we
can
certainly
provide
further
detail
if
the
board
was
going
to
entertain
a
motion
and
include
that
as
a
condition,
we
don't
view
that
as
a
big
deal,
we
will
repair
any
damage
to
the
sidewalk
that
we
create
yeah.
F
The
reason
why
that
was
on
there
because
the
engineer
had
the
pole
being
replaced.
So
when
you
do
the
replacement
actually
dig
up
the
sidewalk
or
actually
attach
them
to
the
existing
pole,
so
they
won't
be
digging
up.
The
title:
they're
just
boring
a
hole
to
put
the
ground
rods
in
so
he'll
get
the
details
on
that
once
he
comes
back
on
vacation,
but
we
won't
be
digging
up
the
sidewalk.
E
G
I
just
I
have
one
question
and
I
just
want
to
ask
john:
are
we
you
know
collectively
comfortable
that,
as
much
has
been
as
much
has
been
done
as
is
reasonably
possible
in
terms
of
stealth
equipment
and
installations,
to
sort
of
diminish
the
the
profile?
I
know
you
said
it
will
be
smaller
than
like.
You
said
like
a
three
unit
transformer
that
would
be
mapped
on
that
pole
and
the
reason
I'm
just
asking
the
question
is
because
I
know
when
people
are
on
the
train
platform
in
the
morning
waiting
for
their
train
they're.
G
Looking
across
to
the
hudson
river,
you
know,
and
so
I'm
just
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
pretty
small
and-
and
you
know
non-intrusive,
but
I
feel
like
I.
We
have
to
just
ask
the
question
one
more
time,
just
considering
the
view
shed.
That's
behind
it
right,
because
this
this
is
a
pull
between
the
train
platform
and
the
in
the
river
yeah.
H
D
Direct
view
from
the
platform,
but
yes
it
is,
you
know,
on
a
basic
utility
pole
that
has
a
lot
of
stuff
hung
on
it
already
and
in
terms
of
stealth.
There
wasn't
much
that
we
we
saw
that
they
could
do
to
hide
it
on
an
existing
utility
pole.
It's
not
like
they're
putting
up
a
new
pole
like
they
were
up
on
a
cross
street
in
which
they
could
do
more.
I
B
B
These
large
towers
on
mountain
tops
to
try
to
boom
as
far
the
signal
as
far
as
they
could,
while
they
were
using
an
analog
signal,
so
analog
signals
worked
well
from
the
mountaintops,
but
now,
as
we
get
network
densification
many
more
people
using
the
system,
a
digital
network
which
is
significantly
less
powerful
than
analog,
we
have
to
come
down
from
the
mountaintop.
So
this
is
not
the
only
place
that
we're
doing
this
at.
B
B
B
F
Probably
wouldn't
be
safe
on
the
ground.
There's
definitely
nothing
there's
no
fault
to
put
it
in,
but
it
basically
houses
the
radios
that
talk
to
the
antenna
and
it's
it's.
The
concealment
is,
is
more
for
aesthetic
guidelines.
So
all
there's,
no
there's
no
wires
hanging
off.
You
see
a
lot
of
that.
Verizon
has
done
a
good
job
of
making
the
design
very
clean.
So
all
you
see
is
the
antenna
and
then
a
box,
and
then
the
meter
bank.
So
all
the
equipment
is
in
that
just
so
it's
away
from
the
public.
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M
Tinfoil
hat
will
protect
my
brain.
I
tried
to
find
superman,
so
I
could
use
his
coat.
His
cape
to
protect
the
rest
of
my
body
he's
nowhere
to
be
found.
I
think,
since
there's
no
more
telephone
boots,
he's
stuck
as
clark
kent
anyway.
I'm
not
against
this
project.
Where
it
is,
we
do
need
wireless
cell
phones,
we
don't
need
5g.
M
J
H
A
A
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N
C
The
small
cell
yep
guidelines
and
mr
clark
reviewed
those
guidelines,
I
believe
in
relation
to
this
application
and
in
response
to
len's
question
earlier
about
stealthing.
I
think
mr
clark
mentioned
that
we've
done.
You
know
everything
that
we
can
do
with
respect
to
those
guidelines
to
stealth.
This
project.
H
G
I
have
one
last
question
for
the
verizon
representative,
and
that
is
just.
Could
you
just
speak
to
one
other
thing
which
is
just
the
you
know:
noise
output
from
the
device-
and
I
just
I
asked
this
question
specifically
because
I
was
you
know,
visiting
pennsylvania
recently
and
it
was
in
staying
in
a
neighborhood
and
walking
my
dog,
where
I
noticed
a
really
a
couple
of
really
noisy
pole
mounted.
G
You
know
small
cell
antenna
installations,
and
I
was
I
was
kind
of
surprised
by
it,
especially
it
was
you
know,
kind
of
noted
at
the
point
where
I
thought
this
would
be
a
nuisance
to
folks
living
on
the
second
floor
nearby.
You
know
the
corner,
so
I
just
was
curious
in
your
experience.
Have
you
run
into
any
installations
that
have
been
unusually
noisy
and
I
just
I
think
we
would
I'm
pretty
sure
we
covered
noise
in
our
small
cell
guidelines.
B
It
would
be,
and
I'm
not
I've-
I
have
never
heard
of
any
noise
issues
associated
with
small
cells.
You
know
there
are.
There
are
sometimes
some
noise
issues
with
the
macro
sites
when
we
have
a
generator.
For
instance,
this
site
does
not
have
a
generator
for
backup
power
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
It's
just
electronic
equipment.
So
I'm
not
sure
what
you
experienced
yeah.
G
I
actually
took
a
cell
phone
video
of
it
because
I
was
it
happened
to
coincide
with
the
time
that
we
were
working
on
the
small
cell
guidelines
and
on
the
sidewalk
level
it
was
a.
It
was
a
similar
size,
pull
mounted
antenna
and
you
could
hear
the
hum
of.
I
don't
know
a
fan
something
buzzing
loudly
at
street
level.
So
I
I
took
a
video
of
it.
You
could
hear
it
on
the
video
I
could.
I
could
you
know
yeah.
B
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I
I
A
So
that
takes
care
of
that
administrative
stuff.
We'll
move,
then,
to
the
next
item
on
the
agenda,
which
was
our
original
number
one,
and
this
is
the
continuation
of
our
public
hearing
on
applications
for
subdivision
and
site
plan.
Approval,
beacon
views
townhouses
at
conklin
street
is
that
applicant
here.
G
R
Good
evening,
just
for
the
record,
I'm
richard
cantor,
tian
and
constantino,
I
think
you've
heard
a
lot
about
this
project
over
many
meetings.
Unless
there
are
specific
questions
that
the
board
members
have.
I
hope
you
would
listen
to
whatever
remaining
comments.
There
are
from
the
public
and
then
consider
the
motion
to
approve
this
project.
R
A
D
E
We
do
have
concerns
along
the
backs
of
the
buildings
of
14
through
37,
there's
a
drainage
sway
located
in
the
back
of
those
lots,
and
it's
partially
on
the
fee,
simple
lots.
So
we
have
concerns
and
would
like
to
have
some
notes
added
that
no
fences
could
be
put
across
the
swales.
You
know
we've
got
to
make
sure
these
swales
are
maintained
properly,
so
we
have
proper
drainage,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
there's
no
structures,
regrading
fences
put
across
them,
and
then
we
had
some
comments
on
the
final
subdivision.
E
E
R
N
N
E
C
The
city
also
has
a
performance
guarantee
that
it's
holding
currently
for
the
public
infrastructure
for
that
25
townsend
subdivision,
which
includes
the
cost
of
constructing
the
roadway,
so
that
that's
sort
of
you
know
if,
even
if
the
25
townsend
developer
were
to
start
and
not
stop
and
the
city
decided
it
wants
to
con.
You
know
finish
construction
of
that
roadway.
We
do
have
performance
monies
in
place
to
be
able
to
do
that.
All
right
thanks.
A
K
I
know
I
spoke
before
my
name
is
teresa
craft.
I
don't
believe
these
current
plans
fully
mitigate
the
wetlands
and
the
drainage
runoff
and
should
not
be
acceptable
for
subdivision
approval.
The
wetlands
and
open
spaces
must
be
protected.
Please
wait.
Till
all
of
the
plans
are
set
into
place.
A
new
high-density
cluster
of
townhouses
will
forever
change
the
quality
of
life
for
the
surrounding
neighborhood,
with
traffic
and
noise
pollution
oops.
K
A
G
A
quick
question
on
that
comment:
letter
that
was
included
in
the
packet
raising
a
safety
concern
regarding
the
storm
water
structures
is
that
at
all
custom
it's
at
the
it's
at
the
end
of
our
packet
hold
on
a
second,
I
was
just
looking
at
the
site
plan.
It's
a
highland,
it
says
highland
meadows
comment
letter
and
the
letter
is
essentially
the
proposed
retention.
Pond
poses
a
safety
risk
to
children
who
I'm
gonna
paraphrase
you
know.
E
C
G
G
A
G
S
Hi
for
the
record
greg
kim
adelski,
if,
if,
if
we
in
conjunction
with
you,
think
safety,
if
there's
a
safety
concern,
it
absolutely
fence
it
off,
so
I
think
we'd
have
to
look
at
it
see
with
the
side.
Slopes
of
the
pond
are-
and
you
know
in
conjunction
with
you
all
if
we
think
there's
a
safety
concern
sure.
A
A
A
S
You
could
see
it's
in-state
actually,
by
way
of
my
experience.
I've
been
in
the
business
for
close
to
40
years
most
attend
and
I've
built
a
lot
of
detention
ponds
in
my
day.
Most
of
them
do
not
are
not
fenced
they're
open
most
and
if
you
drive
down
the
road
and
see
ponds,
detention
ponds,
most
of
them
are
not
fenced.
If
it's
a
very
steep
and
very
deep
pond,
yes,
then
you
would
you
would
fence
it
off.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
the
if
the
detention
ponds
that
we've
designed
here
fit
that
criteria
actually.
S
G
T
C
So,
in
order
to
allow
the
city
engineer
and
the
building
department
to
look
at
this
a
little
bit
further,
what
we
could
do
is
put
a
condition
in
the
resolution
to
say
that
in
the
event
it's
deemed
necessary
or
warranted
by
the
city
engineer
in
consultation
with
the
building
department,
the
building
inspector,
then
the
applicant
agrees
to
install
perimeter
fencing
around
the
stormwater
basin.
That
way,
we
have
your
agreement
up
front.
We
can
look
into
it
further.
U
N
E
A
A
C
A
K
A
G
A
X
Y
Hi
good
evening,
everyone,
it's
steve
spina
from
jmc,
we're
the
site
engineer
back
again
tonight
we
made
a
submission
back
on
the
28th
to
the
board.
I
believe
we
addressed
again
pretty
much
all
the
comments.
We
could
there's
still
some
comments
that
we
need
to
address
in
terms
of
some
construction
details
and
we're
working
our
way
through
a
submission
to
the
dutchess
county
health
department
for
water
and
sewer.
Y
Y
We
know
that
there
was
a
few
minor
comments
sent
back
kind
of
just
following
up
on
what
we
just
submitted,
and
I
think
the
planning
comments
as
well
essentially
are
addressed.
So
you
know
we're
going
to
keep
working
towards
the
remaining
comments,
we're
working
on
our
construction
documents
as
we
hope
to
move
towards
that
phase-
and
you
know
we're
hoping
tonight
to
have
the
public
hearing
closed
and
you
know
have
our
secret
determination.
So
we
could
move
to
the
city
council
for
the
for
the
special
permit.
Y
A
U
D
Yeah
just
a
reminder,
so
the
public
knows:
what's
going
on
the
the
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
number
of
spaces
on
the
rear
portion
of
the
of
the
parcel
which
is
in
the
r1
7.5
residential
district.
So
in
order
to
get
parking
as
a
principal
use
on
a
residential
lot,
they
have
to
go
to
the
council,
the
city
council
and
get
a
special
permit
which
will
involve
another
public
hearing.
So
there'll
be
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
speak
on
this,
but
that's
the
next
step
after
it
moves
from
the
planning
board.
A
E
So,
as
mr
spina
noted,
they
are
preparing
plans
to
go
to
the
department
of
health.
Originally,
they
did
not
need
to
go
to
the
department
of
health.
For
this,
the
city's
heard
back
from
the
fire
department
they've
requested
an
additional
hydrant,
be
installed
in
the
rear
parking
lot
behind
the
building.
J
A
O
Starkip
with
craig
manning
the
city's
traffic
consultant
regarding
the
implementation
of
all
way,
traffic
control
at
the
intersection
of
beekman
and
west
main
street,
the
applicant's
engineer
completed
the
warrant
analysis,
as
requested
in
our
previous
comment
letter.
The
analysis
indicated
that,
based
on
two
of
the
three
warrants,
it's
not
met
for
the
implementation.
They
were
awaiting
collision
data,
which
is
part
of
the
other
guidance.
O
O
O
O
R
H
I
I
I
mentioned
last
time
there
was
concern
about
there
not
being
us
a
stop
sign
at
bank
and
tompkins,
and
this
is
inevitably
going
to
increase
traffic
there,
especially
once
what's
the
other
one
called
edgewater,
especially
once
edgewater
opens.
So
that's
I'm
sure
you've
looked
at
at
some
of
that
already.
O
I
G
To
my
question
about
maine
and
beekman,
but
what
I
was
specifically
asking
about-
and
I
just
I'm
not
sure
if
I
read
the
comments
and
document
correctly
so
I
wanted
to
get
some
clarification
was:
is
there
any
further
discretion
for
for
improvements
to
tompkins
and
9d?
And
I
think
if
I,
if
I
recall
what
I
read
correctly,
there
were
comments
that
you
know
there's
performance
issues
at
this
intersection,
but
it's
not
just
because
of
this
project.
It's
it's
because
of
existing
issues
and
a
confluence
of
projects.
G
O
I
think
the
board
doesn't
I
and
jennifer
crabbing.
If
I'm
wrong,
the
board
has
discretion
to
make
any
traffic
improvements.
They
can
request
that
the
applicant
look
into
it
and
then
that
would
be
you
could
approve
of
what
they're
proposing,
but
I
think
it's
at
the
discretion
of
the
traffic
and
safety
committee
or
traffic
safety
committee
within
the
city's
right
of
way.
Anything
within
the
states,
right-of-way
specifically
at
the
intersection
of
tompkins
and
id,
would
be
at
the
jurisdiction
of
the
new
york
state
d.o.t.
G
Could
we
make
a
recommendation
up
to
the
city
council
if
we
felt
if
we
collected,
we
felt
strongly
enough
about
it
to
say
that
we
are?
You
know
we
have
lingering
concerns
about
traffic
control
at
tompkins
and
90
with
these
this
project
and
the
other
projects
in
the
vicinity
that
are
coming
online,
and
you
know
we
just.
We
urge
a
harder
look
at
this,
because
we're
concerned
about
potential
impacts,
yeah.
A
A
This
part
of
this
draft
goes
so
far
as
to
say
the
tis
concludes,
and
the
planning
boards
traffic
consultant
concurred
that
similar
levels
of
service
and
delays
will
be
experienced
at
the
area
and
intersections
under
the
future,
no
build
and
build
conditions
the
applicant
proposes
to
install
in
those
items.
That
start
just
mentioned
the
retroflective
signpost
strip
within
the
existing
stop
sign
post
for
eastbound
traffic
and
restart.
A
So
it
goes
on
to
describe
those
mitigation
or
improvements
that
the
applicant
has
as
a
part
of
their
application
right
and
then
this
draft
goes
on
to
say,
related
to
transportation.
The
project
also
also
proposes
improved
pedestrian
access
to
and
to
and
from
the
project
with
upgraded
pedestrian
facilities
at
the
intersection
west
main
and
bank
and
the
replacement
of
the
sidewalk.
A
C
E
A
J
A
A
A
A
D
Y
H
A
A
D
H
D
To
try
to
make
the
station
and
coming
out
of
west
main
street
is
going
to
be
coming
increasingly
increasingly
difficult,
as
these
projects
are
built
and
doesn't
it's
not
going
to
get
the
level
of
service
f,
but
it
is
going
to
be
more
and
more
weight,
more
and
more
activity
that
happens
there
and
for
pedestrian
crossing
there
that
it's
becoming
more
and
more
now
that
they
put
the
crosswalks
in
there.
When
the
view
went
in,
I
think
slowing
traffic
down
and
making
people
stop
so
that
everybody
gets
eye
contact
before
they.
Y
Y
A
A
AA
Good
evening,
ari,
a
siegel
and
I'm
here
with
the
owner,
jason
hughes,
we
submitted
revised
plans
based
on
the
comments
we
got.
Last
month
we
updated
the
pedestrian
access
leading
to
the
site
entrance,
both
from
fishco
avenue
and
the
main
street
gate.
We
included
an
additional
two
handicapped
parking
spaces.
AA
Z
Well,
I
think
that
a
couple
of
there
are
a
couple
of
issues
involved.
Oh
sorry,
there
are
a
couple
of
issues
involved
here
for
one
thing:
until
we
have,
you
know
all
of
the
required
parking
lot
lighting
and
you
know
for
a
summer
thing
ending
at
dusk
is
significantly
better
than
much
later,
but
also
yeah.
Yes,
a
lot
of
it
is
in
response
in
direct
response
to
our
neighbors
who
express
concern.
Z
You
know
we
are
paying
attention
to
that.
We
are
making
some
plans
for
some
mitigations
and
some
modifications
that
will
hopefully
dampen
a
lot
of
that
for
them
and-
and
if
that
is
the
case,
then
in
future
years
we
would
like
for
our
summer
concerts.
You
know
when
we've
got
parking
lot.
Lighting
we've
got
all
of
that
to
potentially
go
as
late
as
10.
and
that's
been
our
proposed
time.
For
you
know
public
events
kind
of
throughout
so
but
for
this
summer
no
we're
deliberately
ending
earlier
because
of
our
neighbors
concerns.
Z
We
want
to
be
responsive
to
them,
and
you
know,
in
the
absence
of
the
mitigations,
that
we're
proposing
in
our
plans
the,
for
example,
the
food
container
was
enlarged
because
at
our
last
event
that
had
noise,
I
walked
around
the
neighborhood
with
a
noise
meter
and-
and
we
have
one
spot
where
there
are
reflection-
issues
off
of
our
building.
The
pa
was
reflecting
off
of
our
building
and
back
to
blackburn,
and
we
can
dampen
that
we
can
block
those
reflections
with
a
40-foot
container
as
opposed
to
a
20-foot
container.
Z
A
Z
H
Z
A
Z
The
code
was
changed
because
the
beacon
police
weren't
able
to
enforce
the
existing
code
because
they
didn't
have
the
correct
meters
or
the
correct
training
to
use
those
meters,
and
so
they
changed
the
code
but
yeah,
but
I
have
the
correct
equipment
and
training.
So
so
I'm
paying
attention
to
this.
I
assure.
C
Z
Z
Yes,
it
does
okay,
it
does.
We
have.
We
have
applied,
we
applied
for
in
december
and
part
of
what
sent
us
here.
We
applied
for
the
annual
noise
permit
last
december
for
2022
and
when
dave
buckley
received
the
application,
he
said
it's
time
for
you
to
get
your
special
use
permit
and
I
and
basically
he
said
he's
got
that
on
hold
for
us
and
assuming
we
get
approved
by
you
and
city
council,
that
we
would
have
the
annual
noise
permit.
D
Z
A
C
Or
louder,
private
or
public
events
that
are
anticipated
will
exceed
the
noise
limitations
for
daytime
hours
or
nighttime
hours.
There's
a
provision
in
the
code
that
allows
someone
to
receive
a
quote-unquote
noise
permit
by
submitting
a
noise
permanent
application
and
that
allows
that
person
to
violate
the
noise.
I.
Z
Well,
I
haven't
I'm
looking
forward
to
our
upcoming
concert,
so
I
can
do
more
of
that
at
the
property
line.
At
the
last
loud
thing,
we
were
at
68
decibels
across
the
street
at
the
one
area
of
noise
reflection
issue.
We
were
at
66
down
the
block.
We
were
at
57
around
the
corner.
We
were,
I
mean
you
know
I
walked
by
all
of
the
neighbors
who
signed
that
last
letter.
I
walked
through
that
whole
neighborhood,
but
you
had
your
permit
right.
K
D
Rather
than
the
northwest
corner
so
that
if
you
wouldn't
get
this
sort
of
bounce
off
the
building
back
towards
the
neighbors
to
the
south,
if
any
reflective
noise
or
any
projected
noise
beyond
the
property
line,
it
would
go
out
into
the
talex
field
or
behind
that
52
in
memorial
park.
So
it
wouldn't
be
affecting
the
direct
neighbors.
D
Z
Well,
there
are
a
number
I
mean
only
considering
audio
you're
absolutely
right,
but
with
every
other
logistical
concern.
There
are
major
concerns.
I
would
need
to
take
down
that
stand
of
trees
there,
they're
too
big
and
too
intrusive
into
that
area.
There's
a
pad
and
part
of
it.
Where
we're
planning
to
put
our
food
service,
we
would
have
to
refigure
that
well.
Z
V
Z
Z
I
mean
there
there
there
are
certainly
trees
there
and
there
and
their
branch
width
is
wider
than
shown
at
any
rate
respectfully,
as
as
an
industry
professional
who
does
staging
and
things
like
this,
it's
it's
not
really
a
viable
option.
I
I
appreciate
your
input
and,
as
you
know,
as
someone
with
a
lot
of
experience
with
acoustics,
I'm
gonna
make
sure
that
it's
right
for
my
neighbors
or
we're
not
gonna
make
loud
sounds
outside
at
night.
D
D
Z
The
location
of
the
pad
is
one
thing,
the
the
look.
The
access
to
the
parking
lot
is
another
thing.
The
parking
lot
is
a
terrible
backstage
area,
the
the
the
locations
as
planned,
whether
in
the
corner
or
along
the
north
side
fence,
provide
an
access
into
the
building
through
the
back
door
into
you
know
a
backstage
area.
Z
Z
And,
as
you
said,
it's
a
flexible
stage.
If
we
get
to
a
point
where
we
can't
do
it
well,
as
we
plan
to,
we
could
find
ourselves
trying
that
those
trees
won't
live
forever.
They're
old,
you
know
there
could
be
a
future
where
they
come
down,
and
I
mean
I've
already
had
to
give
them
lots
of
fertilizer
to
keep
them
alive
and
to
get
rid
of
the
mites.
So
they
could
come
down
at
some
point
and
then
that
could
be
a
great
location
for
a
stage
right
now.
It's
not.
A
G
And
let
the
sound
go
out
towards
memorial
park
and
in
the
east
I
I
mean
I
can't
I
don't
have
any
experience
in
staging
events.
So
it's
hard
for
me
to
argue
when
you
say
I
don't
want
my
backstage
area
to
be
in
my
parking
lot
where
I'm
parking
people
I
mean
that
does
sound,
logistically
reasonable
to
make
that
to
raise
that
concern.
Did
you
say
if
you
put
the
stage
in
this
corner
here
where
the
food
facility,
the
food
service,
is
shown?
G
G
D
Z
The
police
showed
up
and
said,
they'd
gotten
a
call
from
someone
in
the
neighborhood,
and
then
they
found
out
that
we
had
a
permit
and
they
left.
So
there
was
one
complaint
on
june
25th
and
I
have
contemporaneous
recordings
of
sound
levels
showing
that
we
were
within
the
legal
limits
at
that
time.
All.
Z
G
So,
john,
some,
this
is
completely
anecdotal,
but
some
of
the
commenters.
I
think
specifically
said
that
we,
you
know
we
were
on
the
verge
of
making
a
complaint
formally,
but
the
events
as
we
understood
them
were
kind
of
few
and
far
between,
so
we
didn't,
but
now
that
we
are
looking
down
the
the
barrel
of
of
a
regular,
you
know
performance
facility.
Z
G
Z
G
Is
like
well,
if
no
one's
complained
in
the
past,
how
could
it
be
a
problem?
I
think
there
were
some
comments
that
sort
of
tried
to
qualify
that
where
the
commenters
said
we
were,
we
were,
you
know,
ready
to
complain,
but
we
told
ourselves
well.
This
is
an
infrequent
thing.
It's
a
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
case-by-case
permit
by
pyramid
thing,
and
then
they
said,
but
now,
but
now
that
we
understand
it's
going
to
become
a
regular
event
in
a
you
know,
an
ongoing
space.
G
A
A
A
D
Z
I
mean
it's
not
a
permanent
stage,
it's
a
you
know,
so
we
have
the
option
of
putting
it.
You
know
of
trying
different
things,
and
our
goal
is
to
to
do
this
in
the
best
way
possible,
both
for
our
performances
for
our
audience,
for
our
performers
and
for
our
neighbors,
and
all
of
these
things
need
to
be
taken
into
account
and
will
be
taken
into
account.
Z
There's
one
other
update
that
I
do
have
that
didn't
make
it
in
in
time,
which
is
on
the
parking
lot
lease,
which
is
that
I
did
hear
back
from
the
talent
association
with
very
minor
revisions
to
the
terms
that
I
had
offered
them.
It
went
to
my
attorney.
He
has
written
it
up.
It
has
gone
to
their
council,
we're
waiting
for
them
before
we
get
it
to
you.
We
will
get
it
to
you
hopefully
within
the
next
week,
and
that
will
cover
the
ongoing
lease
of
the
lot.
Z
R
I
E
H
A
Z
Z
E
A
AB
H
C
Z
Z
A
Z
Oh
in
that
parking
lot
over
there,
I
do
not
own
that.
Oh,
oh
I'm,
sorry.
I
thought
you
were
talking
about
one
at
the
on
the
other
side
of
the
container.
No,
no!
No!
Oh!
No
problem!
I
that's!
The
striping
is
so
gone
there
that
first
spot
will
be
a
real
spot
because
there's
no
existing
stripe
like
you
can't
you'd
have
to
look
really.
E
H
E
Z
Z
E
A
J
E
A
N
Z
A
K
Teresa
craft,
there
are
many
concerns
about
noise
from
this
venue
late
in
the
early
evenings
for
neighboring
residents,
but
even
if
it's
not
nighttime
or
late
in
the
day,
it's
still
the
constant
loud
sounds
that
start
to
rub
on
one's
nerves
and
only
even
live
that
close.
But
I
hear
it
on
the
other
side
of
the
creek.
I
could
not
imagine
living
on
the
surrounding
streets
just
because
there's
no
official
reports
of
complaints
on
the
docket
does
not
mean
there
are
no
complaints
made.
Officially
many
people
tend
to
keep
things
private.
K
J
G
AB
A
E
H
J
J
AB
A
AD
Evening,
however,
we
have
plenty
of
time
yeah.
Thank
you
for
having
us,
I'm
ed,
kellogg,
one
of
the
partners
with
the
mirabeau
beacon
and
just
a
quick
recap
we're
here
for
the
public
hearing
for
seeker,
and
we
also
wanted
to
update
you
on
our
master.
Our
site
plan
progress,
but
we
had
submitted
back
on
march
29th
the
complete
eaf
with
all
of
this
supporting
documentation
and
then,
since
that
time,
we've
continued
to
think
we've
had
three
more
submittals
since
that
time
for
all
facets
of
the
project.
AD
AD
So
if
we
can
look
at
the
site
plan,
there's
one
other
thing
too,
that
we're
not
really
clear,
but
we
were
going
to
be
on
the
agenda
for
architectural
review
committee
this
friday,
but
it
switched
to
next
friday.
Dave
is
at
a
workshop
or
something,
but
we
just.
We
want
to
confirm
that
that
referral
was
made
to
them.
AD
J
J
AD
We
just
didn't
yeah
at
the
last
meeting.
The
focus
was
the
site
plan
and
everyone
agreed
that
it'll
be
a
good
idea
if
john
could
join
us
out
on
the
site,
and
we
did
that
for
a
couple
of
hours,
which
was
the
basis
for
what
we
submitted
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
I
mean
we'll
get
to
the
the
master
plan.
The
master
plan
really
hasn't
changed
substantially.
We
still
have
a
for
the
future
phases.
AD
We
also
have
the
subdivision
parcel
with
19
rental
cottages,
so
that
subdivision
application
was
submitted
last
month
as
well,
and
then
at
the
corner
of
grandview
and
90,
we
have
the
farm
and
the
farm
is
meant
to
support.
You
know
vegetables
and
herbs
for
the
kitchen,
so
it's
really
kind
of
a
passive
use,
but
that'll
be
right
in
the
corner
and
then
the
main
focus
of
this
application.
You
know
the
site
plan,
the
special
use
permit
is
the
is
the
resort
and
the
resort
includes
the
full
restoration
of
the
howland
mansion.
AD
AD
Another
seven
in
the
grotto
rooms
which
are
underneath
the
dining
area
and
then
five
in
the
mansion
itself.
Those
will
be
larger,
suites
on
the
second
and
third
floors
and
then
we'll
have
five
two
bedroom
cottages,
which
hug
the
existing
craighouse
lane,
which
will
become
mirabeau
lane.
That's
on
the
far
west
side
of
the
of
the
upper
portion
of
the
site
at
65
acres.
But
there's
you
know
about
a
third
of.
It
is
down
90
feet
below
the
primary
development
area.
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A
A
On
this
site-
but
I
didn't
think
so
so
I'm
just
curious
when
we
review
this
application,
it's
great
that
we
know
you
have
future
plans,
but
the
focus
right
now
of
our
review
is
what
you
have
in
front
of
us
in
terms
of
the
application,
correct
and
so
just
to
be
clear.
The
cottages
and
the
farm
are
not
a
part
of
this
application
right.
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U
U
Good
evening,
chairman
daniel
leary
for
the
applicant
members
of
the
board,
the
information
that
was
provided
for
the
future
areas
was
done
for
the
secret
review.
It
was
done
in
collaboration
with
your
professionals
who
requested
it,
so
we
would
have
some
modicum
of
information
about
those.
So
when
they
reviewed
it
under
secret,
there
would
be
an
ability
to
assess
future
impacts.
No.
U
AD
Yeah-
and
we
understand
you
know
we're
just
staying
focused
on
john
clark's
comments
regarding
site
plan
and
parking.
We
know
we
owe
john
russo
a
great
deal
of
responses,
creighton
manning
some,
some
responses,
so
those
comments
have
been
rolling
forward
in
the
subsequent
letters,
so
we
will
address
those,
but
we
just
wanted
to
focus
on
the
plan
right
now
great.
So
we
met
with
john
on
site
a
couple
weeks
ago,
and
you
know
henry
can
walk
us
through
what
our
progress
is.
Let's.
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W
W
Number
two
is
that
you
can
see
now
in
the
area
between
the
entrance
drive
and
that
first
bay
of
parking
that
we've
removed
a
field
or
a
section
of
parking
in
that
area,
and
so
that
now
opens
up
that
foreground
to
be
more
lawn
and
landscape
than
parked
cars.
We
do
still
have
a
driveway
connection
that
goes
from
the
entrance
drive
over
to
the
toward
the
spa
entrance,
but
we've
we've
cleaned
up
that
view
or
simplified
the
foreground
related
to.
W
U
W
W
And
then
another
related
change
we
made
is
reconfiguring
that
main
parking
lot
to
the
upper
center
there,
which
is
generally
where
we
anticipate
employee
parking
to
be,
or
a
section
of
employee
parking
to
be
it's
reconfigured
for
purposes
of
better
responding
to
the
existing
land
forms
in
that
area.
That
used
to
be
where
the
barns
and
carriage
houses
were
and
those
were
two-story
buildings,
or,
I
should
say,
split
level.
W
It
was
just
a
single
drive,
so
we've
we've
tried
to
maintain
the
number
there
at
the
entrance
related
areas
just
in
terms
of
maintaining
the
distribution
and
that's
that's
sort
of
the
short
story
on
the
plan
stuff
that
we've
put
forth.
We
think
that
was
in
response
appropriate
response
to
the
discussions
we
had
on
site
about
views
and
we
have
more
material
that'll
address
that
so.
AD
If
you
look
at
this,
the
the
small
lot
that
has
32
on
it,
there
aren't
32
in
that
one
specific
spot,
but
we
go
to
the
previous
plan
and
you'll
see
we
eliminated
the
whole
section
of
parking
right
there
and
then
again
up
to
the
crescent
you'll
see.
The
crescent
has
much
longer
parking
feels
with
the
loop
that
connects
those.
And
then,
if
you
go
to
the
current
one
david,
you
know
then
you'll
see
it's
truncated
now.
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248
right
right,
this
side
right
here
shows
a
comparison
of
the
mirabeau
properties,
which
you
know
one
has
been
open
for
22
years,
one
has
been
open
for
seven
years,
reinbeck's
been
open
for
three
years,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
historical
information
on
what
the
actual
parking
demand
is
and
again
this
is
guest
employees,
and
you
could
see
that
our
proposed
beacon
plan
is
the
lowest
ratio
of
spaces.
Well,
right.
A
AD
A
AC
AD
AD
A
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H
K
AD
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AD
W
This
is
the
I'll
call
it
a
new
view,
and
it's
not
new
because
we've
presented
it
before,
but
it's
new
because
it
doesn't
really
exist
in
this
situation.
You
can
see
in
the
far
distance
the
building
in
the
center
of
the
photo,
and
this
is
from
our
new
curb
cut
entrance
so
north
of
the
existing
and,
if
you'll
switch
to
the
next
slide
david.
W
Now,
you
can
see
that
what
happens
on
the
right
is
that
we
eliminate
some
trees.
We
reduce
some
grades,
the
driveway
bends
out
and
into
that
area
and
in
a
sense
it
creates
an
expanded
view
or
an
additional
view
that
doesn't
exist
so
immediately
to
your
right.
Outside
of
this
picture
is
the
cottage
more
or
less,
and
so
for
now
much
of
that
view.
W
If
you
flip
back
to
existing
again,
you
can
see
that
some
of
that
material
as
sparse
or
as
rough
as
some
of
those
trees
are,
they
do
still
obstruct
the
view,
and
there
is
a
bit
of
a
land
form
in
there
that
we'd
like
to
massage
to
open
that
up.
So
that's
one
substantial
viewpoint
that
doesn't
exist,
but
we
hope
is
a
benefit
to
everybody.
W
Correct
correct,
not
not
everything
but
sort
of
the
ones
that
are
right
in
the
middle
there,
yeah
yeah,
some
of
those
are
pretty
sketchy
when
you
get
up
and
and
look
at
them
very
closely,
they're,
they're,
old
and
aged
and
pretty
rough,
they
haven't
had
a
lot
of
maintenance.
So
you
know
we
don't
do
that
arbitrarily
or
willy-nilly,
but
the
reality
is,
some
of
them
are
pretty
well
spent.
W
W
And
because
of
the
material
in
front
and
the
material
beyond
this
point,
this
is
the
one
big
view
that
you'll
get
either
in
motion
or
on
foot,
and
so
previously
our
plans
had
proposed
some
parking
behind
land
forms
and
such
beyond
this
front
yard.
But
now,
with
the
elimination
of
that
lot,
feel
free
david.
W
You
can
see
that
now
the
foreground
is
basically
front
yard
or
a
yard
if
you
will
and
then
the
island
on
the
other
side
of
that
driveway,
the
the
white
line
that
runs
left
and
right,
that's
the
drive
that
goes
from
the
main
entrance
over
toward
the
spa
entrance,
and
so
that
foreground
becomes
largely
landscaped
view
and
we
think
substantially
improved.
And
hopefully
that
substantially
addresses
one
of
the
concerns.
AD
W
You
this
view
is
adjacent
to
the
southern
curb
cut
and
is
another
because
of
the
driveway,
in
fact,
is
an
open
view
to
the
mansion.
It's
a
little
bit
oblique
and,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
lot
of
vegetation
in
there
that
we
want
to
clean
up
and
needs
cleaning
up
and
just
to
enhance
the
visibility
of
the
house
and
on
the
left.
You
can
see
right
above
the
jersey
barrier.
W
There
is
the
is
the
sergeant
hemlock,
and
so
one
of
the
things
we
would
like
to
do
is
enhance
the
visibility
of
that
so
that
it
can
get
appreciated
for
what
it
is
and
then,
where
the
car
is
in
that
photograph
again,
we
have
a
small
parking
lot
there,
because
that's
the
accessible
parking
for
the
front
doors
to
both
the
spa
and
the
hotel.
The
after
version
of
that
you
can
see
that
we'll
do
some.
W
W
These
are
some
sections
that
we
cut
and
provided
just
to
give
you
some
of
our
sort
of
design,
intent
and
an
understanding
of
how
the
section
varies
from
north
to
south.
So
this
section,
for
example,
is
close
to
the
new
entrance
drive
almost
through
where
the
existing
driveway
is,
and
you
can
see,
the
roadway
is
just
a
couple
of
feet
higher
than
the
road
that's
in
the
distance,
and
that
section
through
the
little
road
profile
is
basically
the
driveway
that
goes
toward
the
spa.
W
The
next
section
is
very
similar.
We
obviously
will
do
some
like
to
do
some
intermediate
landscaping
in
the
front
yard.
I
don't
want
it
to
be
devoid
of
any
improvements,
but
but
we
would
be
cognizant
of
the
view
situation,
but
again,
that's
relatively
flat.
That's
all
right,
as
you
go
to
the
third
one.
Now
you
can
start
to
see
that
the
relationship
between
route,
9
and
the
parking
starts
to
change
and
that's
because
route
9
is
rising
as
it
goes
south
and
so
also
in
this
profile.
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A
D
U
D
The
I
still
think
that,
in
particular
view
number
two
needs
more
mounding
or
more
landscaping,
because
I
don't
want
to
see
cars
from
the
street.
I
want
to
see
the
building
and,
from
view
number
one,
it
seems
like
you've
done
pretty
much
a
good
job
of
that,
but
view
number
two.
It
still
shows
a
parking
lot
here
on
this
visual
last.
H
U
D
D
A
AA
D
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D
A
A
D
Yes,
yes,
and
in
terms
of
the
rear
parking
lots,
you
know,
I
think
they
don't
look
real
efficient
in
the
back
there.
The
way
you
have
that
sort
of
circular
parking
parking
is
never
efficient
if
it's
circular,
but
you
do
get
opportunities
for
nice
trees
in
the
middle,
so
we'll
be
able
to
break
it
up
a
little
bit.
W
D
N
N
D
So
the
key
is
is
to
keep
the
view
as
you
come
in
the
entrance
on
the
mansion
and
not
on
the
parking
lots,
but
it's
going
to
be
pretty
hard
to
eliminate
those
parking
because
the
hotel,
the
bulk
of
the
rooms,
are
there
on
that
side
and
the
spa
which
have
you
know,
multiple
parking
demands,
so
it'd
be
nice.
If
we
could
have
fewer
spaces,
but
I'm
not
you
know
they
have
justified
the
number
of
parking
spaces
based
on.
A
P
O
A
O
O
O
G
You
know,
I
would
just
say
that
I
appreciate
what
you
looked
at
with
that
new
view
number
one
I
had.
I
you
know
some
emphatic
comments
in
our
last
meeting
about
you
know
where,
where
I
look
at
that
structure,
you
know
south
of
the
curb
cut,
as
you
showed,
and
I
appreciate
moving
the
the
parking
back
truncating
it
to
enhance
that
view,
and
I
agree
with
john
clark's
comments
to
to
try
to
do
more
on
the
on
the
other
parking
to
the
south.
But
I
appreciate
taking
a
hard
look
at
that
and
making
that
change.
G
K
Teresa
craft,
this
is
an
exciting
preservation
project
to
be
following
for
sure.
The
applicant's
revised
submission
furnishing
the
details
of
the
full
build-out
project
in
phases
shows
that
this
will
ultimate
ultimately
be
a
continuation
as
a
visionary
spirit
of
place
for
beacon,
moving
the
process
forward.
Please
move
the
revised
parking
lot
plans
with
32
spaces
designated
for
the
spa
guests
even
further
south
and
don't
block
the
public
view
of
the
helen
estate
and
hunt's
music
room
while
passing
the
site
along
the
roadway.
K
It's
the
biggest
view.
If
the
goal
is
to
expose
the
view
of
the
historic
estate
visually
opened
even
more
with
less
parking,
it
looks
good
in
the
drawings
but
you're
not
showing
any
real
volume
of
cars
or
larger
suvs
and
every
now
and
then
a
bus
or
something
I
know
it's
private
property,
but
please
make
it
a
requirement
to
the
applicant
to
include
the
greenway
trails
along
the
fishkill
creek
into
this
project
for
public
access
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
AC
A
AC
Your
record
for
the
record:
what's
your
address,
30
riding
ridge
trail?
Thank
you
beacon,
so
we're
not
too
far
from
there.
I'm
very
excited
this
is
coming.
I
just
had
a
couple
questions
I
didn't
see
anything
about.
Apparently
I
looked
on
the
mirror
website,
which
already
has
this
as
coming
soon,
there's
something
about
a
a
250,
an
event
tent
for
250
guests.
AC
AC
That's
the
second
question
and,
and
you
know
another
concern
is
just
I
hope
you
know.
I
know
they
have
to
cut
down
trees.
They
cut
down
trees
to
you
know,
build
my
house,
I'm
trying
to
put
back
as
many
as
possible.
I
just
hope
you
make
them
put
back
as
many
as
they
can
just
to
preserve
the
you
know,
the
beauty
there
so.
AC
AD
So
it
has
flexibility,
we're
not
built
building
anything
there
permanently
we're
actually
not
even
touching
the
bennett
cottage
because
we're
not
sure
what
we
want
to
do
with
it,
but
it's
really
flex
space.
You
know
this
be
weddings
things
like
that.
You
know
it's
not
we're
not
going
to
have
music
festivals
and
and
obviously
we
comply
with
the
noise
ordinance
as
well.
AD
But
that's
really,
for
you
know,
weddings
and
special
events
like
that
yeah
with
trees,
I
mean
the
legacy
of
the
whole
property
for
170
years
has
been
landscape
architecture,
which
is
henry's
purview,
but
yeah
we're
going.
We
know,
we've
we're
flagging
trees,
we're
protecting
trees,
there's
the
weeping
hemlock,
which
is
the
best
specimen
on
the
site,
so
there's
a
long
history
of
landscape
architecture,
and
we
want
to
continue
that.
You
know
I
mean
on
all
of
our
properties.
It's
nothing
like
this.
AD
AD
AD
AE
AE
AE
AE
I'm
concerned
about
the
fact
that
there's
going,
I
know-
maybe
this
isn't
the
night
to
say
it,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
farm
put
on
the
southern
corner
of
the
property,
with
an
exit
across
from
my
driveway
that
there's
been
a
mention
of
an
additional
exit
onto
grandview
avenue
and
eventually
an
additional
exit
onto
south
south
af.
This
is
a
residential
neighborhood.
AE
AE
Tent
250
people
of
wedding
weddings
are
great,
but
they
play
music
loud
and
they
go
kind
of
late.
We
get
noise
pollution
from
the
pines
when
they
used
to
have
concerts
there
or
what
you
know
shows
so
you
really
have
to
be
cognizant
of
this
is
going
to
be
a
big
impact,
the
noise
200
and
something
cars
just
the
employees
coming
in
and
out.
AE
I
think
there
should
be
a
focus
on
keeping
the
entrances
on
90
the
highway,
keep
the
entrances
out
of
the
local
neighborhoods
either
to
the
south
or
to
the
north,
we're
neighborhoods.
I
have
four
grandkids
I'm
helping
to
raise
in
my
house
little
boys.
A
ball
goes
down
that
street.
All
these
cars
going
up
and
down
the
guests
aren't
going
to
walk
up
and
down
grandview
avenue.
AE
I
don't
know
if
you
know
grandview
avenue,
but
it's
extremely
steep
hill
guests
are
not
going
to
walk
down
grandview
avenue
to
go
to
that
tire
on
to
school,
they're
going
to
take
their
cars,
and
they
know
that
because
they
said
they're
going
to
put
31
parking
spaces
down
there,
how
about
internal
roads?
It's
a
large
property!
There
are
some
roads
there
already
that
cover
most
of
the
property.
AE
Maybe
we
could
add
some
to
get
down
to
the
tire
on
to
school.
I
don't
know,
but
I
just
want
there
to
be
a
real
respect
and
concern
for
the
residential
neighborhoods
that
are
going
to
border
this
very
large
property.
It's
a
beautiful
building,
we'd
love
to
see
it
renovated,
but
we
also
don't
want
to
have
our
lifestyle
destroyed.
AE
AF
Hello,
vincentage
53
grand
view
avenue,
and
I
have
four
children
and
I'm
I
have
to
agree
with
denise
very
concerned
with
the
increased
traffic
and
increased
parking.
That's
going
to
be
on
up
and
down
grandview
avenue,
and
I
would
just
hope
that
the
board
would
try
to
prevent
that
from
happening.
Try
to
keep
it
on
on
9d
or
where
it
should
be
great.
Thank
you.
AD
AD
AD
The
other
existing
curb
cut
is
right,
where
the
south
gate
house
is
at
the
corner
of
grand
view
and
south,
so
we're
not
adding
any
curb
cuts.
Those
are
those
have
been
used
for
a
hundred
plus
years.
Yeah
and
again
we
really
don't
know
what
we're
doing
down
at
the
tire
on
the
school.
The
31
is
just
a
representation,
that's
actually
all
covered
by
a
federal
wetland.
Right
now
you
know
we
may
never
be
able
to
do
anything
other
than
have
a
lawn.
A
D
A
V
H
A
Yeah
we
talked
about
architecture
and
your
trip
to
the
arb.
So
if
you
guys
wanted
to
share
a
quick
update
on
the
architecture,
please
do,
but
in
the
meantime,
in
advance
of
that
we'll
just
talk
about,
I
think
it's
a
good
time
to
start
with
the
arb,
and
I
think,
as
you
mentioned,
this
is
already
on
the
calendar
for
the
subcommittee,
the
twenty
third
and
twenty.
AG
So,
thank
you
and
looking
forward
to
our
meeting
and
soon
what
we're
showing
here
are
the
elevations
that
we
showed
last
time
we've
been
continuing
to
develop
the
elevations
and
the
details
again
being
sensitive
to
the
scale
of
the
mansion.
None
of
our
building
is
higher
than
the
mansion.
We've
been
careful
about
that
and
we're
also
being
responsive
to
the
comments
that
we
had
last
time.
A
Great
I'll
just
make
because
I'm
not
a
member
of
the
arb
or
part
of
the
arab
and,
of
course,
they're
going
to
review
they'll
spend
their
time.
They'll
bring
the
recommendations
back
to
the
full
board,
but
just
from
my
vantage
point,
just
guidance
and
caution
around
to
disney
right
and
sensitive
cues
to
not
just
the
surrounding
city,
but
the
building
itself.
A
I'm
sure
you
know
in
terms
of
scale
features
style
and-
and
you
know
I
know
massing
on
something
like
this-
is
a
challenge,
because
you
need
a
certain
area,
but
that
when
you
have
that
type
of
massing,
especially
in
relationship
to
such
an
elegant
original
building,
that's
a
real
effort.
So
just
guidance
and
caution
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
really
closely
at
just
those
sorts
of
things.
Yeah.
AG
I
appreciate
that,
and
you
know
I
think
we
we
obviously
have
a
mandate
from
our
client
that
mere
beau
has
a
certain
style,
a
french
style
that
they
convey
across
their
properties.
And
it's
really
about
this
escapism
this
you
know
relatively
close
escape.
You
can
get
away
from
your
everyday
life
and
go
to
a
place
that
kind
of
takes
you
to
a
different
location.
AG
AG
A
R
A
I
H
A
J
AA
AB
A
AB
Here
with
the
applicant
tonight,
this
is
a
two
lot
subdivision
located
at
67
grove
street,
there's
an
existing
structure
on
the
property
and
we're
proposing
one
new
building
lot.
Both
lots
will
gain
access
from
grove
street
and
will
provide
or
get
their
water
and
sewer
connections,
also
from
sewer
and
water
mains
within
grove
street
generally.
The
the
new
lot
is
located
southeast
of
the
existing
lot
r15
district,
so
we're
proposing
just
over
a
little
bit
of
that
5000
square
foot
lot.
D
The
only
comment
I
have
is
there's
three
large
trees
on
the
property
and
all
three
are
coming
down
and
they're,
replacing
it
by
one
tree
on
the
existing
building
lot,
rather
than
the
new
building
lot.
And
so
I'm
asking
is
it
possible
to
save
the
existing
tree
near
the
northeast
corner
of
lot?
Two
by
shifting
the
proposed
water
service
line,
yeah.
A
A
AB
K
E
AH
AB
A
V
V
A
V
In
the
middle
of
the
line,
magnolia
is
in
the
center
of
the
property.
It
surprises
me
a
little
bit
because
I
I
I'm
neighbors,
obviously-
and
I've
talked
to
the
owner
a
couple
years
ago
about
what
her
plans
were
if
she
was
planning
a
subdivided
and
at
the
time
we
had
a
conversation
of
her
saying
she
would
never
get
rid
of
that
magnolia
tree.
She
wants
her
daughter
to
appreciate
and
run
around
it,
so
I'm
actually
shocked
to
even
be
standing
here.
V
Talking
about
this
understand
that
there's
a
desire
to
profit
off
of
building
and
selling
a
new
lot,
but
but
I
do
think
it's
worth
my
time
to
sit
here
and
speak
up
on
behalf
of
that
magnolia
tree,
because
it's
truly
unique.
It
truly
stands
above
and
beyond
the
other
trees
that
are
also
being
removed
and
and
there's
a
maple
at
the
front,
the
maple
at
the
back.
V
But
I
think
every
member
of
this
committee
should
take
a
look
at
the
magnolia
tree
and
maybe
the
subdivision
could
be
contingent
on
keeping
that
magnolia
and
cutting
the
lot.
You
know
elsewhere,
but
I'm
here
just
to
bring
that
up
to
your
point
as
well.
I
will
say
that
in
my
little
experience
doing
some
digging
in
the
back,
it
is
very,
very,
very
rocky,
the
back
of
my
lots,
which
is
directly
adjacent
to
those
lots.
V
AI
AI
AI
AJ
AJ
AJ
K
R
L
L
L
L
L
I
now
have
31
tree
trunks,
because
that's
all
of
the
vines
and
overgrown
lawn
and
trees
and
everything
that
I've
I've
uncovered
and
those
were
tall
old,
locust
trees
that
between
disease
old
age
fell
down.
That
yard
will
be
back
to
what
it
used
to
be.
When
I
grew
up,
it
was
blueberry
bushes,
red
raspberry,
bushes,
blackberry,
bushes,
currants
and
yes,
the
magnolia
tree
has
never
it's
always
been
grown.
It's
never
been
pruned,
there's
large
branches,
it
needs
to
be
taken
care
of
just
like
the
rest
of
the
land
and
the
home
needed
to
be.
L
My
intent
is
my
daughter.
Ella
is
named
after
my
grandmother,
ella.
It
was
returned
to
that
property
and
that
property
will
remain
in
the
family
in
1966.
My
grandmother,
ella
and
my
mother
together
bought
that
property
from
our
neighbor,
which
was
on
boys
street
mr
mays,
so
that
is
a
long-standing
history,
total
respect
for
that
property.
L
A
Yep
thanks
and
again,
I
think
you
heard
from
the
board
that
there
is
always
an
appreciation
for
as
much
additional
replacement
replanting
of
removed
planting.
I
mean
there's,
obviously
no
way
to
replace
a
75
to
100-year
magnolia
tree.
That's
always
a
huge
disappointment,
but
you
know
as
much
as
an
applicant
can
do
to
either
preserve
or
replace
where
one
needs
to
remove
in
a
situation
like
this.
That's
always
our
strong
recommendation,
and
we
would
hope
that
you
would
the
applicant
would.
AB
Right
just
to
touch
on
that
chairman,
we
did
look
at
that.
We
looked
at
possibly
placing
the
lot
on
the
other
side
of
the
house.
You
can
see
that
there's
not
enough
width
there.
We
also
looked
at
moving
the
house
toward
the
west
to
attempt
to
save
that
tree,
but
I
just
think
it's
it's
just
too
far
west
to
be
able
to
put
a
foundation
and
a
you
know,
a
reasonable
sized
house
in
there
to
to
salvage
that
tree.
AB
The
applicant
is
okay
with
with
replacing
an
additional
tree
or
two.
If,
if
that
will
help,
certainly
you
know
we're
we're
disappointed.
We
have
to
take
that
tree
down
to
it.
We
certainly
are.
I
mean
it
is
certainly
not
coming
down
until
which
time
you
know
a
house
is
built,
so
it'll
it'll
remain
there
until
anything's
built,
but
we
we
really
have
looked
at
that.
We
did
try
to
salvage
that
tree.
C
A
AB
A
AH
AH
Hi,
I'm
leona
tucker
from
m
glassbeam
associates
with
our
applicant
michael
braden.
So
what
we
have
here
is
a
0.78
acre
lot
with
an
existing
brick
building.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
make
it
into
an
art
studio.
It
is
currently
not
being
used,
but
it's
not.
It
was
an
auto
body
shop,
it's
in
the
traditional
zoning
district
and
it
would
mainly
be
used
served
as
an
art
studio
with
the
occasional
viewing.
AH
A
AH
A
D
AH
X
First
of
all,
it's
you
know
it's
kind
of
a
derelict
building
right
now,
serving
as
a
service
center
and
garage
storage
for
cars
and
stuff,
so
the
art
studio,
primary
use
will
be
a
personal
studio
for
my
sculpture
and
painting
work,
and
as
part
of
that,
when
collectors
come
up,
they
sometimes
want
to
see
work
that
isn't
in
the
studio.
So
they
can
visualize
it
better.
So
I
have
what's
called
the
viewing
room
that
viewing
room
is
kind
of
a
quasi
gallery.
It's
not
a
formal
gallery
retail
space,
but
that
space.
X
That
income
will
do
two
things:
it
will
help
pay
for
operation
of
the
building
and
excess
income
will
generate
for
the
the
pot.
You
know
to
offer
opportunities
for
young
people,
I'm
also
hoping
to
do
poetry,
readings
or
individual
kinds
of
things.
On
occasion,
this
isn't
like
every
night
and
all
that
these
are
occasional
opportunities
in
the
studio
space,
because
it's
a
nice
size
space
right
now
I
mean
the
building
occupies
almost
every
inch
of
the
lot,
and
so
that's
where
we
are
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
X
G
I
had
one
one
question
which
was
you
know
about
the
in.
I
was
reading
in
that
in
the
kind
of
mission
statement
document
about
the
you
know:
potential
occasional
poetry,
slams,
theatrical
performances,
and
I'm
just
thinking
that
in
in
order
to
keep
consistency
with
with
a
number
of
different
applicants
that
have
come
for
event
spaces.
G
X
Yeah,
absolutely
I
mean
I
could
take
over
the
entire
building
myself
and
just
use
it,
but
I
really
feel
compelled
to
give
back
to
the
community
in
some
ways.
So
these
are
I'm
thinking
you
know,
might
be
like
quarterly
opportunities.
You
know
every
three
months
there
might
be
something
put
together
in
my
large
studio
space,
because
there
aren't
a
lot
of
large
spaces
around.
Here
I
mean
even
the
holland
center.
X
It
won't
be
quite
as
large
as
my
main
painting
studio.
So
I'm
thinking
there
might
be.
You
know,
30
people
that
come
in
to
do.
You
know
see
something
someone
wants
to
do
a
screenplay
reading
or
a
play
reading
and
get
some
feedback.
You
know
it's
I've
done
this
in
my
other
studios
in
la
and
stuff,
so
it's
just
casual,
but
I
want
to
be
upfront
about
it
and
I'm
I'm
just
you
know
hoping
that
the
city
is
excited
about
this
kind
of
thing
as
well.
X
K
X
Events
that
happen
it
would
be
during
like,
like
there's
a
an
art
walk.
You
know
so
then
I'd
open
up
the
studio
and
have
something
there.
People
are
already
parked
they're
already
part
of
main
street,
and
this
would
just
sort
of
tie
into
that
kind
of
thing.
I'm
not
trying
to
create
completely
separate
event,
spaces
per
se.
X
A
X
X
X
X
X
H
A
H
X
Well,
they're
in-field,
right
now
they
have
plywood.
You
know
overum
painted
plywood.
I
can't
have
that
many
windows
in
my
studio
space.
So
what
I
want
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
infill
with
a
metal
plate
and
each
of
those
plate
is
going
to
be
an
artwork
and
I
am
going
to
go
out
to
the
schools
and
offer
a
stipend
and
create
you
know
either
once
a
year
or
do
it
all
at
once.
A
You
know
again,
I
think,
those
those
sorts
of
things
we're
obviously
going
to
be
curious
about
and
should
be
made
clear
by
your
application.
The
other.
The
other
thing
I
note
is
that
you're
looking
to
add
significant
amount
of
planting
to
the
entire
perimeter,
not
only
intermittent
along
the
henry
street
elevation
but
along
the
south
chestnut
street
elevation.
X
Well
I'll
deal
with
chestnut
first,
I
would
ideally
like
that
asphalt
strip
that's
planted
there.
I
want
to
put
in
some
low
plantings
and
stuff.
I
don't
know
if
I
can,
because
I
I
don't
know
what
the
wall
conditions
are,
that
is
a
retaining
wall
on
the
inside.
It
drops
down
like
six
eight
feet
and
they
may
have
put
that
asphalt
in
because
they
have
water
issues.
I
I
don't
know
I.
I
can't
afford
to
dig
that
whole
wall
up
and
start
over.
X
So
if
I
can't,
then
I
will
try
to
put
in
some
small
planters
on
the
surface
to
put
in
some
landscape
there.
It
landscaping,
as
you
know,
in
that
area,
is
going
to
is
going
to
be
difficult
because
of
all
the
power
and
communication
lines
on
both
chestnut
and
henry
street,
but
I
do
know
there's
some
trees
that
grow
low.
I
I
couldn't
find
a
tree
list
in
in
the
city
of
beacon.
X
AE
X
Yeah,
no,
I
mean
it's,
it's
something
we'll
consider
it's
just
the
power
lines
have
a
certain
restriction
and
I
think
the
worst
thing
in
terms
of
streetscape
is
to
have
a
tree.
Then
it
gets
kind
of
lopped
off
so
it
you
know.
I
want
to
work
within
the
parameters
of
what
can
be
done
and
again,
I'm
on
this
side.
I've
done
in
my
career.
I've
done
this
stuff
all
over
the
world
in
cult
for
cultural
centers.
So
I'm
an
advocate
for
streetscape,
I'm
an
advocate
for
the
community.
X
D
So
if
you
look
in
the
zoning
law
under,
I
think
it's
223-26,
c1
or
b,
b
or
c.
I
can't
remember,
I
think
it's
b1,
there's
an
exception
for
buildings
that
were
built
in
1964,
in
which
you
can
do
a
comparison.
And
if
you
don't
exceed
a
certain
percentage
of.
I
think
you
would
in
this
case,
because
it
probably
was
an
auto
shop
in
1964
and
wouldn't.
D
D
R
X
So
my
daytime,
my
daytime
use,
would
would
probably
be
you
know
at
the
most
10
cars
of
parking
at
at
the
most
and
and
any
events
would
be.
You
know
early
evening
kind
of
things.
I
actually,
you
know
moved
here.
I
live
on
one
east
main
street,
so
I
walk.
I
mean
everything
has
been
designed
to
be
walk
in
local
community
kind
of
environment.
D
X
N
D
D
But
I
would
talk
to
the
building
inspector
he's
the
one
who
makes
that
determination
as
to
whether
you
qualify
for
the
64
exception
and
how
he
has
the
tables
of
what
the
parking
standards
were
in
1964.
So
you
can
make
the
comparison.
So
usually
you
go
to
dave
buckley,
you
make
your
case,
he
looks
it
up
and
he
says:
well,
you
don't
meet
the
standard
or
he
do.
X
X
X
A
I
D
D
For
instance,
the
main
street
access
committee
has
proposed
diagonal
striping,
all
up
and
down
henry
street,
rather
than
just
on
the
east
end
of
henry
street.
It's
the
same
width,
so
you
could
add
7
or
12
spaces.
I
can't
remember
what
it
was
by
just
restriping
henry
street
at
that
end,
and
so
therefore
you
could
say
I'm
willing
to
pay
for
the
restriping
reconfiguration
or
whatever,
and
that
would
provide
additional
spaces
which
would
knock
down
my
variants.
A
AA
Good
evening,
good
evening,
r.a
seagull
representing
the
owner,
the
property
is
at
31
beacon
streets
at
the
corner
of
south
avenue,
and
the
owner
is
proposing
to
create
an
accessory
apartment
at
the
lower
level
of
the
existing
house.
There,
the
apartment
complies
with
all
the
zoning,
so
we're
not
looking
for
a
variant
there's
an
existing
door
to
the
lower
level.
So
there's
no
change
to
the
exterior
of
the
house
and
then
there's
there's
enough
parking
for
three
cars
between
the
one
car
garage
and
the
driveway.
AA
A
D
A
D
D
D
H
D
D
E
D
E
D
I
think
well,
I
don't
remember
them
ever
having
to
remove
asphalt.
I
remember
having
to
change
the
configuration
of
the
drawing
so
that
the
driveway
was
five
feet
from
the
property
line,
but
maybe
I
don't
know
you
can
check
with
dave
on
that,
whether
you
have
to
pull
that
up
or
what?
Okay,
certainly
where
you
designate
the
parking
spaces
on
the
site
plan
has
to
be
five
feet
from
the
from
the
property
line.
A
A
E
R
E
C
J
A
D
A
AB
AB
AB
This
is
the
subdivision
plot,
with
the
five
lots
we
have
designed
this,
such
that
the
the
lots
in
the
r15
conform
to
the
r15
zoning
district
and
the
lots
in
the
r110
can
comply
with
the
r110
district
and
you'll
see
that
lot.
4
does
go
over
that
zoning
line,
but
it
is
in
conformance
with
the
r10,
which
is
the
more
stringent
district
we're
proposing
all
of
our
access
from
highland
place,
as
the
other
frontages
pose
challenges
to
getting
driveways
up
those
steep
slopes
and
the
existing
retaining
wall.
AB
We
received
comments
from
your
your
consultants,
there's
a
number
of
them,
we're
prepared
to
respond
to
them
and
and
we
can
go
through
them
as
you
would
like.
We
also
did
receive
some
emails
from
residents
of
the
area.
We
could
certainly
respond
to
them
at
the
appropriate
time.
We
just
received
those
today
so
we're
not
prepared
to
respond
to
them
at
this
time,
but
we're
definitely
going
to
take
those
into
consideration.
A
E
E
E
Q
AG
AB
Yeah
we're
going
to
certainly
look
into
that.
There
were
some
hurdles
that
we
thought
might
be
an
issue
with
that,
but
we're
certainly
in
favor
of
reducing
impervious
here
as
well.
We
didn't
you
know
we
looked
at
the
possibility
of
the
private
road
when
we
were
initially
laying
this
out,
but
we
didn't
think
it
was
going
to
work.
But
you
know
in
the
latest
details
that
we've
heard
we
think
we
can
make
this
thing
work
with
the
private
road.
D
Y
U
D
AB
H
AB
I
I
think
it
will
address
you
know
not
only
some
of
the
concerns
of
the
neighbors,
but
some
of
the
concerns
of
the
consultants
as
well.
Preserving
more
trees,
we're
certainly
going
to
identify
any
trees
over
six
inches
that
might
be
removed
from
this
and
we'll
certainly
show
more
re-vegetation
on
the
site
as
well.
Yeah.
A
A
E
D
J
The
proposed
lot
number
five
as
it
exists
right
now,
is
heavily
wooded
and
it
looks
like
with
the
private
road
or
driveways
and
the
grading
that's
required
on
the
site
that
you
would
lose
a
large
portion
of
the
existing
trees,
and
all
I
see
on
the
plan
is
one
red
maple
proposed
for
all
five
lots.
I'm
concerned
about.
D
AB
W
A
AB
A
D
You
commented
on
the
original
draft
and
you
made
some
additional
comments
and
we
incorporated
all
those
comments
into
this.
The
draft
that's
on
the
table
now
and
there
were
two
outstanding
questions
that
the
council
still
had,
that
they
didn't
want
to
decide
to
schedule
a
public
hearing
until
they
sort
of
asked
these
questions
of
the
planning
board.
D
So
the
two
questions
were
at
least
one
member
of
the
council.
Maybe
two
had
concerns
that
accessory
dwelling
units
should
not
necessarily
be
allowed
on
our
five
thousand
square
foot:
lots
on
5,
000
or
7
500
square
foot
lots
those
two
districts
because,
as
he
said,
it
looks
it's
too
cluttered
on
the
site
and
I
had
shown
him,
for
instance,
north
walnut
street,
which
we
just
approved.
D
D
But
he
wasn't
convinced
and
he
wanted
to
throw
that
question
back
to
the
planning
board.
Do
you
think
that
there
should
be
some
limit
so
that
the
smaller
our
r15
and
r1
7.5
lots
shouldn't
necessarily
have
adus
or
they
might
have
different
standards
like
they
may
have
smaller
ones,
or
you
only
allow
them
inside
the
building
rather
than
un
detached
to
me,
that's
a
rollback
of
the
existing.
It's
making.
You
know
you
want
to
encourage
these
things
and
that's
actually
rolling
it
back
and
making
it
harder
to
do
these
things
on
smaller
lots.
D
D
P
U
D
AB
A
A
D
D
D
Is
that
there
was
a
public
hearing
on
this?
It
wasn't
actually
a
public
hearing.
It
was
a
public
informational
session
in
which
people
were
allowed
to
comment
on
the
draft
law,
the
first
draft
and
they
had
a
number
of
people,
probably
four
or
five
or
six,
who
came
out
and
said.
You
know
your
over
density
and
single-family
neighborhoods
and
too
much
traffic
and
soaring
water,
and
you
know
all
the
standard
complaints
you
have
about
any
new
development.
D
G
G
G
There
are
places
like
the
elks
will
rent
you,
a
space
that
you
can
use
to
put
your
car.
You
know
when
you
need
to
get
off
the
street
for
snow
removal
and
driving
through
joining
towns
like
cold
spring
when
they
have
a
storm
coming
everybody's
parked
along
9d,
where
they
have
that
parking
lot
for
the
for
the
park,
the
baseball
fields
across
from
maldane,
maybe
that
maybe
beacon
needs
to
consider
doing
something
like
opening
up
the
public
school
lots
for,
for
you
know,
storm
parking
or
something
to
get
people's
cars
off
the
street.
D
So
the
two
questions
related
to
parking
were
in
the
draft
law.
There
was
a
sentence
added
that
says
a
minimum
of
one
off-street
parking
space
shall
be
provided
for
each
so
that's
in
there
now,
but
I
added
the
planning
board
may,
in
its
discretion,
waive
all
parking
requirements
when
it
deems
appropriate.
I.
A
A
D
They,
the
way
the
draft
is
set
up,
is
that
if
it's
inside
the
building
like
31
beacon
street
and
involves
no
exterior
changes,
dave
buckley
would
approve
it
based
if
it
meets
all
the
rest
of
the
standards.
If
it,
if
it's
an
exterior
edition
or
detached
adu,
then
it
would
come
to
the
planning
board
right.
N
Right,
I
mean
actually
in
that
case
we
it's
a
two-family
dwelling
in
a
lot
of
ways,
right,
it's
being
called
an
adu.
What
it
is
it's,
it's
you're,
it's
what
I
have
to
be
quite
honest.
I
have
a
tenant
upstairs
you
know,
and
that's
so
it's
the
same.
It
functions
the
same
and
it
does
the
same
purpose
of
increasing
the
amount
of
ideally
lower-cost
rental
units
within.
D
The
city
yeah
in
in
the
city,
something
over
75
percent
of
the
city,
is
single-family.
Zoning
does
not
allow
to
family
right.
This
is
not
a
lot
of
multi-family,
so
the
only
option
for
any
sort
of
affordable
housing
are
adus
on
75
85,
maybe
90
percent
of
the
city,
and
so
that's
why
it
was
important
to
sort
of
address
adus
and
make
them
the
process
more
streamlined,
because
it's
been
in
place
since
89
and
there's
only,
I
think,
26
or
29
of
them
in
the
city,
the
whole
city.
D
N
H
N
A
G
H
K
G
I
think
there's
been
people
who
have
come
in
and
have
described
the
situation
they're
looking
to
create-
and
it's
been
a
very
feel-good
thing-
maybe
for
like
a
physically
challenged
relative
or
something
and
we're,
and
we
all
feel
moved
to
be
like
oh
yeah,
we
gotta
and
then
you
know,
and
then
it
seems
like
other
people,
you
know
come
in
and
they
feel
like
they
have
to
start
creating
some.
You
know
yeah.
N
N
A
G
E
G
It
and
then
you
have
to
be
certain,
so
people
are
coming
in.
You
got
to
take
the
heart
strings
out
of
it
yeah,
but
people
are
coming
in
making
public
meeting
comments
and
prefacing
them
with
lines
like
well.
You
know,
I
understand
you
want
to
make
some
money
and
then
the
applicant
gets
up
and
says
this.
O
A
A
D
G
AA
N
A
G
AK
D
If
it's
an
addition
to
a
house
or
involves
a
detached
building
or
conversion
of
a
garage
or
anything,
that's
not
entirely
contained
within
the
existing
building,
it
would
still
come
to
the
planning
board.
It
would
only
be
decided
by
dave
if
it
was
inside
the
building
and
had
no
setback
issues
or
anything
like
that.
Okay,.