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From YouTube: Beacon Planning Board 8-9-22
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The City of Beacon Planning Board Meeting from Tuesday, August 9, 2022
A
Okay,
good
evening,
everybody
welcome
to
the
august
2022
meeting
of
the
city
of
beacon
planning
board,
we're
going
to
begin
our
agenda
tonight
by
reviewing
the
applications
for
certificate
of
appropriateness.
A
A
I
will
also
make
note
that
we've
had
a
resignation
of
one
of
our
board
members,
jc
calderon.
He
won't
be
hearing
any
of
the
applications
tonight.
However,
he
does
have
an
application
at
the
end
of
the
agenda.
Just
wanted
to
make
the
board
and
the
public
aware
of
that.
Thank
you.
How
are
you.
C
Very
well,
thank
you.
This
is
our
first
time
we've
only
been
in
beacon
a
month,
and
so
we
haven't
had
the
opportunity
to
discover
this
meeting
agenda
style,
so
my
name
is
melissa
moore.
This
is
my
husband,
steve
roberts
in
the
purple,
and
we
are
opening
a
shop
at
172
main
street
called
the
spirit
of
the
universe.
C
A
And
thank
you
for
your
submission,
so
the
application
is
for
a
sign.
Yes
in
front
of
us.
We
have
your
graphic.
A
C
C
B
B
In
addition
to
the
sign,
and
often
we
don't
get
that
sometimes
it's
if
it's
existing,
it's
not
an
issue,
but
in
this
case
that
is
kind
of
a
missing
piece.
C
Okay,
well,
it's
we
are,
after
the
former
owner
of
the
business
to
see
if
we
can
just
purchase
the
site,
the
bracket
from
him,
which
was
wrought
iron.
It
was
black
and
very
typical
to
most
of
the
other
ones
that
are
along
the
street.
C
A
Yeah
to
len's
point
typically,
we
would
look
for
the
sign
complete
with
bracket
okay
as
part
of
our
review
I'll
leave
that
there
for
a
sec,
any
other
yeah.
C
Right,
the
entrance
to
the
music
place,
which
is
upstairs
from
us,
is
its
own
entrance
number
one
and
there's
plenty
of
wood
facing
around
the
door
for
it
to
be
separated
from
ours,
so
it
wouldn't
neither
would
have
to
hang
terribly
low.
Yes
there,
you
are.
C
E
E
G
C
Measurement,
so
we
would,
I
think,
it's
a
two
and
a
half
by
two
and
a
half
if
if
it
were
square,
so
we
would
make
it
fit
into
that
format,
but
it
ours
will
be
round,
it
won't,
have
a
square
facade
on
it.
A
H
C
B
A
I
A
A
Yeah,
we
don't
like
it.
Sorry,
okay,
we'll
ask
the
same
questions
more
likely
about
how
you
intend
to
hang
this.
J
B
I
A
A
E
A
Anything
else:
okay,
motion
to
approve
the
condition
that
the
applicant
reduced,
the
height
of
the
bracket.
K
E
I
A
Honestly,
we
usually
don't
know
what
happens
next
once
it
leaves
here.
It
just
happens.
A
A
L
M
M
It's
an
existing
house
with
the
existing
screened-in
porch
in
the
front
and
the
idea
is
to
basically
enclose
the
screened
in
porch.
It's
getting
expanded
out
a
couple
of
feet
towards
the
front
of
the
house,
but
essentially
still
held
back
from
the
main
part
of
the
facade,
the
materials
you
know
the
siding
will
match.
The
existing
windows
will
match
the
existing
and
then
the
whole
house
would
be
painted
those
new
colors.
M
You
can
see
that
there's
some
existing
photographs
and
it's
the
paint
is
rather
deteriorated,
so
the
entire
house
would
be
painted,
but
that's
where
the
work
is
going
to
be.
E
A
Okay,
our
last
application
under
architectural
review,
certificate
of
appropriateness,
477
main
street.
A
O
Come
visit,
I
submitted
the
packet
and
the
fee
and
there
was
a
letter
that
I'd
like
to
read,
so
the
public
can
also
hear
it,
but
the
letter.
O
Okay,
but
the
letter
was
written
by
ronnie,
beth
sauer
and
everybody
talks
about
the
renaissance
of
beacon,
ronnie
beth
and
her
husband
ron
were
the
renaissance
people.
This
is
ronnie
beth's
design,
dear
members
of
the
architectural
review
board
and
planning
board.
I
am
a
member
of
the
board
of
directors
of
the
helen
cultural
center
and
actively
involved
in
the
current
renovations
major
work
has
begun
inside.
We
are
currently
fundraising
for
money
to
begin
the
exterior.
O
We
would
like
to
obtain
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
paint
the
front
main
entrance
door.
The
color
black,
please
see
all
the
attachments
sent.
This
color
will
greatly
enhance
the
image
of
the
facade
and
is
in
keeping
with
the
brick
details.
This
color
adds
stature
and
dignity
to
the
building
and
provides
a
fresh
image
to
the
facade
as
we
go
forward
in
our
renovations.
O
Please
note
how
this
brings
out
the
elegance
of
the
brass
hardware,
the
present
door
and
its
red
color
is
not
original
and
the
door
is
not
original.
It's
a
reproduction.
It
lacks
contrast
and
diminishes
the
majestry
of
the
front
entrance.
Please
assist
us
in
returning
this
important
edifice
to
the
statue.
It
deserves
thank
you
great
nice
hardware,
nice
gorgeous
and.
O
A
O
There
are
no
actual
photographs
of
that
show.
We
have
a
watercolor,
but
the
building
doesn't
even
look
like
the
building
in
the
watercolor.
So
some
could
say
it
was
red.
Some
could
say
it
was
a
darker
color
yeah.
O
If
you
come
inside,
we
painted
the
gallery
a
red
very
similar
to
the
portico,
so
it'll
be
this
majestic
black
into
the
red
instead
of
red
red.
G
L
We
heard
recently
there
was
an
excellent
history,
talk
that
we,
some
of
us
shared
about
the
polychromy
that
was
used
in
this
and
some
other
local
buildings
that
hopefully
will
have
an
opportunity
to
view
and
share
with
other
board
members.
It.
J
A
We
have
our
word
of
the
day.
Holly
crummy
I'll,
accept
a
motion
to
approve
motion
motion
by
karen.
Second
second
bye
kevin
all
in
favor
aye.
Thank
you,
okay,
so
we
will
move
to
our
regular
agenda,
first
item
of
which
is
our
continued
public
hearing
on
an
application
for
special
use,
permit
and
site
plan
approval
for
a
hotel
and
event
space
at
1113,
wolcott
avenue.
Q
Q
Public,
you
know
want
to
adjourn
because
there's
only
four
board
members
here.
Typically,
that's.
Q
S
Thank
you
eric
and
thank
you
members
for
the
record.
My
name
is
taylor,
palmer,
I'm
a
partner
with
the
law
firm
of
cuddy
and
fader
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
Although
it
wasn't
a
public
hearing,
I
would
have
said.
I
also
agree
with
the
color
for
the
howland
center,
so
polychromy
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
We
are
here
tonight
in
connection
with
our
continued
review
for
site
plan
and
special
permit
for
1113
walcott
avenue
tonight.
S
S
At
this
point,
we
are
still
involved
in
the
continued
secret
review
of
the
project
and
we
open
the
public
hearing
which
has
now
continued
to
this
evening.
We
did
make
a
supplemental
submission
to
your
board,
which
included
responses
to
comments
from
the
board
and
from
the
public.
At
the
last
meeting
we
were
last
before
you
in
june.
We
did
take
a
month
off
in
july,
not
for
vacation,
but
to
look
at
the
different
options
that
we
had
to
move
forward
and
hearing
the
comments
from
the
zoning
board.
S
From
the
public
and
your
board,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
application
reflected
those
and
the
applicant
took
a
hard
look
and
and
put
in
our
supplemental
submission.
The
result
of
that
consideration
is
a
reduced
development
proposal
that
now
has
a
maximum
number
of
198,
total
guests
or
attendees
for
and
I'm
removing
the
word
occasional
for
intermittent
events
that
will
be
held
within
the
existing
church
building.
S
The
purpose
of
saying
intermittent
is
because
they
aren't
always
going
to
be
a
monday.
They
aren't
always
going
to
be
a
thursday.
They
aren't
always
going
to
be
a
sunday.
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
occasional
reference
was
reflected
in
the
intervention,
because
it
could
be
a
tuesday
through
wednesday.
It
could
be
a
wednesday
through
a
sunday.
So
we
want
to
make
that
clarification.
S
We
note
this
represents
the
the
second
significant
reduction
in
the
overall
project
design
over
the
course
of
the
last
year
that
this
has
been
before
the
board.
The
applicant
originally
contemplated
a
proposal
of
420
persons
max
for
event
space
before
previously
reducing
that
to
350
attendees.
So
now
we're
at
a
50
reduction
over
the
original
proposal
or
reduction
of
222
total
attendees
at
maximum
events
at
the
at
the
space
rea.
S
In
a
minute,
I
believe
you
have
your
computer
we'll
show
the
changes
to
the
internal
layout
of
the
church
as
far
as
the
event
space
that
is
concerned
for
the
reduced
development
proposal,
this
expands
the
stage
area
and
provides
physical
barriers
between
the
riser
and
stage
areas,
including
gates
and
railings
and
curtains.
Those
are
other
ways
to
help
again
curtail
or
reduce
the
areas
occupiable.
S
For
those
events
with
respect
to
the
hotel
and
cafe,
the
proposal
remains
the
same:
it's
still
a
30
room
hotel
to
be
available,
24,
7,
365
and
the
cafe
will
accommodate
50
people
really
serving
the
hotel
guests
and
only
operating
for
hotel
guests,
or
if
there
are
events
in
the
space,
it
would
not
operate
separate.
It
would
be
operating
for
the
event
before
I
turn
it
over
to
my
mic
over
to
re
and
then
to
the
applicant.
For
a
moment,
we
are
anticipating
a
building
inspector
determination.
S
I
see
that
dave's
not
here.
We
did
have
a
chance
to
speak
with
the
plain
board
attorney
and
understand
that
that's
worth
coming,
we'll
be
speaking
with
dave
and
the
planning
board
attorney
next
week
with
respect
to
the
parking
requirement,
our
supplemental
submission.
As
we
understand
it,
is
now
zoning
compliant
utilizing
the
1964
exception,
and
that
is
the
reduced
development
proposal.
So
in
our
we'll
address
that
with
the
building
inspector,
but
the
proposal
as
reduced
no
longer
requires
a
variance
from
the
zoning
board
of
appeals.
S
S
The
state
historic
preservation
office
did
issue
a
no
impact
letter,
so
they
identified
that
the
project
is
appropriate
and
will
not
have
an
impact
on
historic
or
cultural
resources
and
that's
the
development
or
adaptive
reuse
of
the
church.
The
proposal
for
the
hotel
and,
of
course,
the
improvements
to
the
cemetery.
S
At
this
time.
Mr
chairman,
I
will
turn
it
to
ra
just
to
briefly
walk
through
those
internal
changes
and
then
we'll
have
gavin
and
rich
speak
to
for
the
benefit
of
the
public.
Some
of
the
updates,
including
some
other
off-site
parking
areas
that
were
in
the
process
of
of
working
through,
so
that
we
have
other.
A
I
just
want
to
parse
something
you
said
real,
quick
where
you
mentioned,
seeking
a
determination
which
we
know
is
worth
coming
and
your
statement
that
parking
is
zoning
compliant.
Those
two
are
very
different
things
at
the
moment.
S
M
Good
evening,
so
the
building
inspector,
also
in
in
order
to
be
able
to
review
the
proposed
event
configurations
and
to
have
a
way
to
sort
of
enforce
the
occupancy
that
we're
claiming
wanted
to
see
a
couple
of
different
floor
plan
configurations,
one
where
there's
a
staged
event
with
riser
seating
and
then
one
where
it
would
be
more
like
a
wedding
where
the
riser
seating
would
be
gated
off.
M
So
basically,
I'm
showing
that
the
two
configurations,
the
one
up
there
now
is
the
riser
seating.
With
the
stage
there's
a
you
know
like
a
railing
and
gates
that
would
be
between
the
seating
and
the
stage,
so
you
wouldn't
get
overflow.
You
know
it's
that
stage
area
is
reserved.
There
would
be
no
audience
members
there
ever
and
then
there's
198
seats
total
so
that
that's
the
capacity
there
in
in
the
other
configuration
that
riser
seating
would
be
gated
off.
M
No
one
would
be
allowed
up
there
and
there'd
be
some
configuration
of
either
tables
and
a
dance
floor,
or
it
could
be
standing
room.
If
you
look
at
the
occupancy
in
terms
of
standing
room,
you
also
get
slightly
less
than
198
people
based
on
square
footage,
but
you
know
so
we
there's
a
curtain
track.
There's
the
railing.
There's
gates,
you
know,
so
we
wanted
to
comply
with
the
inspectors
requirement
that
there'd
be
some
kind
of
physical
barrier
between
the
the
two
types
of
events.
M
B
S
It's
just
another
mechanism,
I
mean
part
of
the
comments
that
have
come
out
throughout
the
process
are
using
the
building
inspector
to
enforce
the
code
and
the
approvals
and
the
restrictions,
we're
adding
other
self-policing
mechanisms.
The
same
way
we're
adding
off-street
parking
or
trying
to
work
with
off-street
parking
areas
to
add
additional
availability.
Even
though
our
traffic
report
shows
that
we
don't
have
that,
there's
we
can
meet
our
demands,
we're
just
adding
other
self
policing
mechanisms,
and
this
is
one
of
those
ways
to
do
something
to.
B
S
T
P
B
M
B
B
A
B
We
were
what
we
were
saying
is
that
there
it's.
I
had
asked
the
question:
is
there
a
mechanism
for
the
city
to
designate
a
new
allowable
occupancy
for
the
building
in
the
in
the
future,
dependent
on
how
everything's
resolved
or
not
there
yet
and
rea
was
saying
that
the
building
inspector
could
issue
a
new
certificate
of
occupancy
such
that
that
would
be
laid
out
not
only
in
the
resolution
approving
the
site
plan,
but
also
in
the
certificate
of
occupancy
for
the
building
saying
max
occupancy,
198
or
whatever
should
be
decided.
A
L
That
is
that
occupancy
is
also
limited
by
the
life
safety
factors
like
the
egress,
the
door
units
and
all
these
other
things,
some
of
which
may
conflict
with
whatever
we
are
saying,
they're
allowed
to
do
or
limited
to
do
right
and
which
we,
I
want,
a
clarification
on
who's.
J
L
No,
no,
which
authority
has
jurisdiction
and
whether
or
not
it
overrules
any
restrictions
that
we
may
want
to
play
place
on
the
use
of
the
site.
I'm.
B
L
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
I
brought
up
before
was
if,
in
fact,
they
need
additional
doors
or
the
doors
need
to
be
located
in
different
places,
because
kevin.
A
L
D
U
Thank
you.
My
name
is
gavin
hecker
and
I
am
a
a
partner
with
prophecy
hall
and
I
just
want
to
briefly
summarize
to
the
public
what's
happening
right
now
with
our
plans
and
our
current
proposal
at
bear
with
me.
I
have
a
page
and
a
half
to
read
here,
so
it
won't
take
long.
U
U
While
I
have
spoken
with
a
lot
of
our
neighbors,
I
have
not
had
the
opportunity
to
reach
out
and
respond
personally
to
everyone,
and
I
apologize
for
that
shortcoming.
I
have
read
letters
and
heard
from
our
neighbors
at
the
view
west
end
lofts,
river
ridge,
hammond
plaza
and
the
residents
on
the
surrounding
streets.
Our
proposal,
which
has
ironed
out,
which
has
been
ironed
out
over
a
year
now,
with
the
planning
board,
calls
for
the
transformation
of
these
two
buildings
into
a
cultural
center
for
art,
education
and
performance.
U
Our
hotel
will
provide
the
unique
opportunity
for
artists
and
organizers
to
be
accommodated
right
next
door
to
the
exhibition
space,
where
they
will
stage
rehearse
and
bring
creative,
innovative
work
to
an
intimate
audience.
I
come
from
a
background
in
non-profit
theater,
where
it
has
always
been
a
struggle
to
fund
and
accommodate
artists.
Grants
and
donations
are
often
not
reliable
and
come
with
limitations,
while
also
consuming
an
endless
number
of
administrative
hours.
U
Here
we
have
the
ability
to
use
our
hotel
in
a
way
that
provides
funding
for
artists
and
programming,
as
a
grant
would
essentially
we're
creating
an
environment
and
campus
that
is
optimal
for
creative
output,
while
at
the
same
time
reducing
production
costs
for
artists
and
organizers.
The
idea
is
that
we
will
also
be
able
to
provide
quality
and
affordable
programming
to
the
public.
U
The
church
was
purchased
with
the
blessing
of
the
former
congregation,
who
also
weighed
in
on
and
supports
our
plan
for
adaptive
reuse.
Our
decision
to
pursue
this
project
was
further
solidified
by
support
from
city
officials
and
the
mayor
who,
at
the
time,
were
also
contemplating
the
future
of
this
property.
They
had
voiced
their
opinion
that
the
church
in
parsonage
would
be
well
served
as
a
commercial
establishment
which
would
help
link
the
mta
station
to
main
street
and
be
woven
into
the
fabric
of
downtown
beacon.
U
U
Its
continued
survival
relies
upon
a
consistent
wealth,
funded
and
maintenance
and
repair
the
city
of
beacon,
cherishes
its
history,
and
our
population
deserves
the
ability
to
experience
some
of
its
finer
historic
buildings.
Just
last
week,
as
the
howland
library
hosted
its
milestone,
150th
anniversary
anniversary,
we
were
honored
to
play
a
small
role
in
the
celebration
by
being
part
of
a
tour
organized
by
the
american
institute
of
architects.
U
U
This
church
was
built
to
be
an
important
and
busy
institution
that
serves
the
community,
and
we
strive
to
continue
that
tradition.
The
existing
church
was
built
to
accommodate
well
over
300
guests,
with
a
current
capacity
of
336
patrons
and
has
existed
for
over
150
years
predating
the
surrounding
developments.
U
In
response
to
the
comments
and
concerns
of
our
neighbors,
we
have
prepared
a
reduced
development
proposal
that
addresses
the
neighborhood's
concerns
and
constitutes
a
greater
than
50
overall
reduction
in
capacity
from
our
original
submission.
In
july
of
2021.,
we
will
be
reducing
seating
capacity
for
events
to
198,
as
well
as
reducing
hours
of
operation.
Many
of
our
neighbors
have
told
me
that
they
find
under
200
people
to
be
in
acceptable
capacity
and
will
support
this.
Our
cafe
will
serve
a
maximum
of
50
people
for
breakfast
and
lunch
and
or
be
open
during
non-event
times.
U
Its
primary
function
is
to
serve
hotel
guests
and
the
surrounding
walkable
neighborhood
during
regular
business
hours.
The
church
facility
would
be
available
to
patrons
for
workshops,
rehearsals
retreats
seminars,
classes
and
talks,
lectures
or
kids
programming.
Events
of
198
capacity
will
typically
be
limited
to
weekends
and
end
between
10
to.
V
U
All
windows
will
be
treated
for
sound
containment
and
amplified
sound
from
events
will
be
indoors
and
adhere
to
all
local
ordinances.
The
nature
of
events
will
be
of
high
quality,
low
impact
and
maintain
an
intimate
experience
and
atmosphere.
We
will
ensure
the
safety
of
our
patrons
and
neighbors
by
designating
security
to
oversee
and
ensure
a
smooth
and
non-disruptive
operation
outdoors
and
indoors,
since
full
capacity
use
is
limited.
It
is
common
for
event
spaces
to
rely
on
off-site
parking,
especially
those
of
historic
significance
built
before
cars
were
invented.
U
Recent
successful
examples
of
urban
renowned
cities
nationwide
place
significant
value
and
emphasis
on
a
smart
approach
to
planning.
In
order
to
maintain
safe,
walkable
pedestrian
friendliest
cities.
It
is
essential
to
utilize
available
parking
and
not
create
more
urban
sprawl.
With
deserts
of
underutilized
pavement
for
parking
lots,
it's
an
important
goal
to
work
towards
a
reduction
in
car
traffic
by
promoting
and
supporting
walking
biking
or
public
transport
beacon
has
worked
hard
to
provide
a
safe
network
of
crosswalks
and
paths
that
already
connect
our
site
with
available
parking
and
public
transportation.
U
U
We
will
have
31
parking
spaces
on
site,
while
the
rest
of
the
parking
50
spaces
is
offsite
within
a
two
to
five
minute.
Walk
a
detailed
parking
plan
and
map
is
contained
in
the
submission
and
we
are
proposing
temporary,
no
event
parking
signs
to
be
placed
on
nearby
streets
and
developments
if
deemed
necessary
and
appropriate.
We
will
provide
staff
and
security
outdoors
and
indoors
to
mitigate
any
issues,
especially
during
times
when
patrons
are
entering
or
leaving
an
event.
U
U
G
W
The
parking
for
our
modified
proposal
here
so
okay,
so
I'm
just
gonna,
start
with
a
quick
traffic
comparison
of
what
we
had
before
and
what
we
we
now
have
at
the
198
attendees,
so
obviously
for
typical
conditions.
We're
not
really
changing
anything
when
you
look
at
the
event
conditions
from
350
attendees
to
198
attendees
we're
approximately
a
40
reduction
in
our
traffic
generation.
W
For
for
the
facility,
we
didn't
do
a
new
traffic
analysis
for
that
40
reduction.
That
basically,
our
conclusion
is
that
the
results
of
the
original
analysis,
kind
of
remain
and
our
conclusions.
They
remain
the
same
and
that
will
still
work
with
dod
to
to
mitigate
any
any
items
that
they
feel
necessary
and
so
that
that's
on
the
traffic
into
things
for.
G
W
Let
me
just
go
to
the
next
slide
area,
similar
comparison
for
you
so
again,
typical
conditions
when
the
hotel
and
the
event
the
cafe
space
are
the
only
things
operating,
no
change
we're
still
looking
at
48
spaces
to
accommodate
those
with
the
31
on
site
and
17
that
will
have
to
be
off-site
somewhere
again.
The
primary
use
for
that
cafe
is
really
to
support
the
hotel,
but
the
idea
is
that
it
would
be
open
to
the
public
as
well.
W
During
events,
looking
at
the
event
generation
now
at
198
attendees,
that
now
requires
58
spaces.
For
the
event,
that's
now
reduced
from
81,
which
previously
per
code
again,
we
still
propose
the
cafe
and
event.
Space
will
be
non-simultaneous
uses
and
if
we
go
back
to
our
assumption
of
50
of
hotel
guests
also
attending
events
that
reduces
the
actual
parking
demand
for
a
reason
to
for
to
42
spaces,
start.
A
B
Can
I
can
I
ask
a
clarifying
question
about
that,
because
I
think
there's
been
a
couple
of
public
comments
that
probably
express
some
surprise
at
that,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
a
you
know
if
there's
something
further
to
say
about
that,
that
would
probably
answer
some
of
that.
So
I
would
imagine
if
there's
an
event
going
on
the
cafe
kitchen
may
be
open,
but
there's
not
going
to
be
any
more
people
than
the
198
event
participants
allowed
into
the
building
right.
B
Distinction
is
that,
because
I
think
some
people
from
the
public,
based
on
some
of
the
letters
I've
read,
are
like
it
doesn't
make
sense
that
the
you
know
how
this
non-simultaneous
use
is
being
described.
But
what?
But
I
think
the
key
thing
is
that
if
there's
an
event
going
on,
the
cafe
will
not
be
open
to
non-event
goers.
So
you
can't
have
198
people
at
an
event
plus
another
30
strolling
into
the
cafe.
For
you
know
a
late
evening
snack,
it
will
be
only
for
the
the
group
already
served
by
the
event
that.
W
The
description,
the
description
that
that
len
gave
is
correct
that
so
the
idea
is
that
the
cafe
will
be
supposed
the
other
to
support
events.
So
if
there's
a
wedding
going
on
the
kitchen,
space
can
be
used
for
a
wedding.
If
there's,
if
there's
some
other
performance
going
on,
there
may
be
concessions.
S
S
The
cafe
is
really
designed
to
serve
hotel
guests
and
and
residents
really
in
the
immediate
area
of
the
property,
but
it's
really
designed
as
a
support
for
the
hotel,
but
if
there
is
an
event
taking
place
in
the
event
space,
the
cafe
will
only
be
serving
and
servicing
that
particular
use,
but
the
parking
parking
regulations,
for
example,
generally
don't
take
into
account
those
separate
the
the
employer,
the
employees
or
otherwise,
as
far
as
calculating
the
parking
requirement.
So
I
know
they're
two
different
issues
that
we're
we're
considering
here.
S
N
There's
so
many
variables
here
we're
talking
about
that,
it's
hard
to
yeah
hard
to
put
them
in
into
place
because,
okay,
what
if,
if
it's
not
a
198
occupancy
event?
What
if
it's
a
55
person
event
in
the
middle
of
the
day,
it's
a
conference,
that's
associated
with
the
hotel.
Are
you
saying
that
the
cafe
will
shut
down
for
every
event,
no
matter
what
size.
U
N
D
H
H
S
D
S
S
But
my
word
of
tonight
was
going
to
be
intermittent,
which
is
occurring
at
a
regular
intervals
and
not
continuous
or
study
the
concept.
Being
you
don't
know
when
whichever
conference
is
going
to
have
a
date
when
they
need
a
tuesday
wednesday,
you
don't
know
you
know.
So
the
the
operation
is
a
seven
day.
There's
a
potential
to
have
can.
S
A
U
B
I'm
a
little
bit
troubled
by
that
only
because
it
feels
like
you're
trying
to
establish
a
use
and
have
it
thrive
and
prosper,
but
at
the
same
time
it's
kind
of
being
throttled
a
little
bit
which
you
know
might
in
some
ways
be
perceived
as
a
as
a
good
thing.
If,
if
the
neighbors
perceive
that
they're
going
to
be
adverse
impacts,
but
from
another
perspective,
not
so
much
a
good
thing
for
the
longevity
and
profitability
of
the
of
the
use,
perhaps
right.
So
it's
a
that's.
S
Sure
it
certainly
is
tied
directly
to
viability.
The
size
of
the
prior
proposals
that
had
larger
event
capacity
meant
that
you
could
have
fewer.
You
could
have
a
larger
event
less
often
to
help
offset
those
costs
than
maintaining
the
space
in
operating
the
site,
so
those
are
unfortunately
directly
correlated,
but
it
is
still
a
significant
reduction.
As
rich
mentioned,
there's
a
40
traffic
reduction,
there's
a
parking
reduction,
there's
all
sorts
of
associated
terms
and
again
we're
committed
to
198
and
less
whether
that
means
a
cafe
is
somehow
operable
or
not.
A
B
So
so,
within
an
ideal
world
we
would
want
to
resolve
parking
impacts,
get
the
acoustics
sorted
out
so
that
there's
no
noise
violations
and
then
allow
the
events
to
happen
at
the
at
the
pace
which
they
can
find
artists
to
come,
and
you
know
that's
what
I'm
saying
is,
like
I
hate
to
arbitrarily
say:
well,
there's
this
cloud
of
these
impacts
hanging
over
it.
So
let's
just
do
one
a
week
and
we'll
all
swear
to
that.
I'd
rather
resolve
the
impacts
as
best
we
can
and
say
hey.
S
It's
a
difficult
question
and
I
know
that
the
local
you
know
venues
that
exist
today
and
beacon,
have
similar
operations
and
function.
You
know
it's
it's
it.
There
is
if
they
could
define
out
their
schedule.
They'd
be,
I'm
sure,
very
pleased
to
know
the
content
of
the
consistency
and
continuity
going
forward.
We
hear
the
comments.
A
E
Unfair
yeah
I'd
also
just
like
to
say.
I
appreciate
that
you're,
you
know
evolving
the
project
over
time,
but
you
know
to
start
with
it's
really
about
what
the
site
can
handle
and
not
just
the
size
of
the
building.
The
building
is
large
and
you
know
it
can't
support
the
capacity
any
longer
because
the
site
has
been
restricted
so
to
keep
going
on
about
how
you've
reduced
the
capacity
by
half.
Already
I
mean
we're
just
starting
to
get
into
what
I
see
as
reasonable.
E
S
E
S
S
S
Great
segue
I'll
put
rich
back
on,
but
I
will
mention
also
that
we
have
been
in
discussions
directly
across
the
street
with
the
church
with
respect
to
additional
off-street
parking
in
their
lot,
and
we
also
have
discussions
with
another
business
on
dennings
that
would
require
shuttling
between
the
locations.
But
we
have
letters
of
intent
related
to
those
parking
areas.
S
S
Right
and
our
study
has
shown
that
we
don't
need
those
but
we're
putting
on
top
of
the
availability,
those
other
options,
and
it
won't
end
with
those,
for
example,
the
funeral
home
has
indicated
they
would
discuss
with
us
once
we're
approved
or
once
there's
a
project,
not
something
that's
still
in
flux,
where
they
can
have
more
formal
discussions
and
that's
another
difficulty,
but
you're
absolutely
right.
But
these
are
not
necessary
based
on
our
study.
We're
doing
it
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
adding
other
layers
of
availability.
W
W
Taylor
mentioned
we're
working
on
an
agreement
with
the
episcopal
church
that
is,
for
parking
on
the
the
basketball
court.
That's
across
the
street
there
it's
approximately
600
feet
from
the
facility,
so
reasonable,
walking
distance
and
we
estimated
that
park
it
could
park
about
15
vehicles.
W
W
W
You
only
now
need
10
spaces
in
offside,
other
off-site
locations
and,
as
we've
talked
about
before
our
study
prior
to
even
considering
any
lease
agreements
or
anything
like
that,
we've
shown
there's
parking
on
beacon
street
we've
shown
that
there's
parking
in
the
municipal
lot.
We've
shown
that
there's
parking
in
the
tompkins
lot,
and
I
understand
that
there's
proposals
for
the
tompkins
lot
to
not
be
modified
subject
to
the
firehouse
expansion.
W
The
only
other
things
I
wanted
to
mention
were
you
know
in
our
traffic
and
parking
management
plan
which
we
we
submitted
a
revised
version
of.
We
don't
have
any
real
changes
to
the
circulation
pattern
and
how
we
plan
to
identify
maintain
traffic
on
the
site.
We
still
propose
to
have
three
parking
attendants
to
manage.
The
traffic
flow
there's
some
more
details
in
there
now
about
how
emergency
vehicles
would
be
handled
during
the
events.
W
If
there
wasn't
an
emergency
during
the
pickup
and
drop
off
time,
also,
there's
some
discussion
in
there
about
how
people
who
need
additional
time
to
get
into
the
vehicles
would
be
handled.
We
do
have
four
spaces
that
are
ada
designated
spaces.
We
were
also
identifying
another
location
where
they
could
pull
off
if
that
that
all
those
weren't
available
and
provide
additional
time
for
them,
while
other
vehicles
could
still
pass
and
then
lastly,
just
on
the
off-site
signage
gavin
had
mentioned
this
earlier,
but
hearing
concerns
from
the
board
and
from
the
public.
W
We
have
added
to
our
off-site
signage
signs
that
say
no
event
parking
at
stratford
avenue,
rambot
avenue,
academy
street
and
beacon
street
beyond
the
lots
that
we're
proposing
to
use
there
to
that.
W
G
T
W
W
Is
definitely
to
have
them
shuttled
from
there?
I
think
what
we've
talked
about
thus
far-
and
this
needs
to
be
fleshed
out
a
little
bit
further-
is
that
people
that
would
be
parking
there
would
be
either
told
to
park
there
ahead
of
time
or
given
the
option
to
park
there
ahead
of
time,
and
they
would
confirm
that
location
that
way.
We
know
how
many
people
are
parking
there
and
how
many
people
we
have
a
certain
number
of
spaces
that
we
can
accommodate
there.
W
How
many
people
that
we
then
have
to
accommodate
for
on
a
shuttle
and
how
that
would
work
again.
I
think
that
the
details
of
that
still
need
to
be
flushed
out
a
little
bit,
because
that
came
to
us
kind
of
towards
the
end
right
prior
to
our
submission.
But
that's
the
initial
thinking
right
now.
Pardon.
D
A
A
It's
one
of
my
same
observations.
I
mean
you
are
showing
some
pretty
distant
parking
options,
so
this
idea
of
shuttling
again
it
kind
of
goes
to
the
viability
of
the
application
right.
You
know
it's
if,
if
that's
the
solution,
shuttling
more
detail
about.
A
W
Some
of
it's
in
in
flux,
so,
like
the
dennings
thing,
I
think
we
can
we
can
identify
how
that
would
operate
and
how
that
would
work.
If,
if
the
the
funeral
home
becomes
a
possibility
for
parking,
then
we
can
identify
how
that
would
get
incorporated
into
any
shuttling.
Some
of
the
the
other
locations
that
we
were
talking
about
more
closely
here,
we
think,
are
all
walkable
tompkins.
B
You
can
you
describe
how
the
no
event
parking
signs,
how
are
those
are
going
to
be
placed,
or
how
are
those
set
up,
are
those
like.
W
So
the
intention
is,
there
would
just
be
temporary
signs
that
would
be
placed
at
the
entrance
to
river
ridge.
The
entrance
to
to
west
end
lofts
and
at
like
the
like
on
9d
at
the
entrance
to
rambo.
B
At
the
corner
on
the
grassy
verge
adjacent
to
the
sidewalk
yeah,
I
mean
I
don't
know
that
the
city
had
never
contemplated
this
or
would
contemplate
this.
But
I
wanted
to
ask
the
question
about
if
this
is
a
significant
enough
issue,
would
we
ever
consider
just
moving
to
signage
on
the
streets
that
says
resident
parking
only
and
you
have
a
thicker
system.
W
W
Know
I
know
you've
brought
that
up
before
my
understanding
of
that
process.
Is
it
actually
takes
a
an
act
of
the
state
legislature?
Oh.
B
G
A
We'll
go
to
our
consultants
for
any
highlights
on
their
reviews
and
comments
back
to
the
applicant,
then
we'll
go
around
the
board
and
then
we'll
make
our
way
to
the
public.
So
we'll
start
with
you,
john.
N
Just
before
we
get
off
the
topic
of
operational
issues,
it
might
help
to
clarify
what
you
consider
a
major
event:
what
range
from
198
to
what
low
number,
which
would
trigger
the
cafe
being
closed.
So
there's
there's
more
idea
of
how
many
major
events
in
that
upper
range
would
would
be
and
how
many
of
those
would
happen
during
a
year.
N
So
so
you
have
an
idea
of
sort
of
the
big
events
and
when
there
might
not
be
an
overlap
between
or
non-simultaneous
use
of,
the
cafe
and
the
and
the
event
space
so
where
you
might
have
double
the
parking
needs
or
at
a
lower
occupancy
level.
J
N
N
N
N
For
multi-family
and
for
event
space
because
they
wouldn't
be
non-simultaneous
use,
so
that
would
have
to
be
clarified
to
see
if
indeed
the
church
is
moving
forward
with
that
approval
for
21
it's
21
south
street.
I
think
it
was
yeah.
N
That
corner
building
on
beacon
and
south
there
is
a
question
that
you
know
if
you're
going
to
limit
the
cap,
the
event
capacity
of
198,
why
does
the
seating
configuration
on
sheet
6
shows
288
seats
and
does
that
new
maximum
occupancy
include
working
staff
members,
or
is
that
just
event,
goers
paid
event
goers
to
get
an
idea
of
how
the
overall
number
will
be?
N
N
Those
things
are
always,
in
my
view,
overused
why
you
need
to
don't
do
not
enter
signs
on
both
sides
of
the
driveway
right.
Wouldn't
one
just
be
enough
on
a
narrow,
one-way,
driveway
things
like
that.
Instead
of
having
multiple
standing
signs
in
the
front
chart.
D
H
J
N
In
front
of
the
church
limit
them
as
best,
you
can
and
maybe
consider
moving
the
commercial
sign
to
the.
N
There's
a
spot
on
the
north
between
the
two,
the
big
parking
lot
in
the
back
and
the
three
spaces
along
the
church
that
people
can
squeeze
into
right
on
the
corner
where
people
make
that
corner.
So
I
would
like
that
landscape
so
that
people
can't
use
it
for
informal
parking.
I
I'm
worried
about
parking
sort
of
being
squeezed
into
corners
and
then
making
it
turning
radius
and
stuff
other
than
that.
I
think
my
points
are
smaller
and
easily
fixed.
I'm
hoping.
T
Z
Other
than
that,
it's
it's
you
know
continues
to
be
the
the
parking
requirement
versus
parking
demand,
which
is
to
be
determined
by
the
building
inspector.
It's
our
understanding.
I
know
john,
regarding
the
signing
at
the
driveway.
There
is
a
there's,
a
publication.
That
kind
of
that
sets
the
standards
for
signing
what
they
have.
We
find
that
it
meets
that
publication,
though
they
could
reduce
the
do
not
enter
science
to
just
one
just
place
it
on
the
right
side
of
the
road.
Z
E
Lease
deals
if
you're
relying
on
those
are
secure.
E
I
don't
you
know,
I.
I
think
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
the
funk
it
functions
you
know
into
the
future,
so
lease
agreements
are
not
so
secure
in.
B
One
question
when,
where
the,
when
will
there
be
a
memo
like
a
technical
memo
or
even
a
short
punch
list
of
measures
from
an
acoustical
engineer
or
an
architect
saying
here's
the
measures
that
would
be
put
in
place
to
control
the
sound
from
the
events
such
that
there'll?
Be?
No,
you
know
we'll
do
these.
These
things
will
be
done.
This
is
how
the
windows
will
be
treated.
B
This
is
how
other
things
will
be
treated
so
that
there
will
not
be
an
impact
and
noise
impact,
because
that
seems
to
be
a
huge
concern
and
I
think
it's
you
know
it's
a
bit
of
an
open-ended
question.
I
think
everybody
understands
things
can
be
done,
but
enough
detail
to
be
able
for
people
to
be
able
to
assess
okay.
This
sounds
like
it
would
meet
my
address.
My
concerns.
S
So
I'll
I'll
leave
it
to
the
architect,
we
can
probably
put
that
into
a
supplemental
submission
so
that
it
would
be
incorporated
into
the
plans
most
likely
would
be
in
the
construction
drawings
more
than
anything
else
about
their
ratings
for
noise
ratings.
I
see
the
architect
chairman
looking
at
me.
A
Yeah,
no,
I
think
that's
that's
important,
and
so
thank
you
for
pointing
that
out.
It
is
a
secret
issue.
Yes,
of
course,
as
you're
well
aware,
yes,
so
more
information,
more
detail
on.
S
AA
G
T
H
J
L
L
Goals
and
compliance
with,
as
far
as
possible,
the
complexity
of
the
operational
proposals,
the
operational
things
that
are
going
to
be
required
that
you're
you're
proposing
are
concerning
because
it's
difficult
to
assure
that
they're
going
to
be
maintained.
L
It
makes
it
difficult
to
operate
the
facility
and
the
business
and
I'm
just
a
little
bit
concerned
about.
I.
I
would
feel
more
confident
if
it
was
simpler
and
arrangements
were
made
that
were
more
permanent.
S
And
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
public
to
be
very
clear,
there
is
a
parking
and
traffic
management
plan.
It's
a
fully
detailed
plan
that
evolves
with
the
project
and
and
the
operations
on
the
site
it
accounts
for
all
this.
It
has
identified
that
there
is
sufficient
off
street.
Excuse
me
on
street
public
parking
available
to
utilize
the
the
proposal
at
the
site.
So
I
want
to
be
clear
that
the
traffic
study,
as
reviewed
by
the
city's
consultant,
has
addressed
that
there
is
parking
in
the
vicinity
of
the
property
for
the
proposed
use.
S
We
are
looking
at
additional
mechanisms
to
help
satisfy
the
not
on
the
parking.
That's
not
provided
specifically
on-site.
So
we
understand
the
concern
by
the
board
about
making
hard
and
controlled
agreements
with
these
neighbors.
But
again
the
application
also
asked
the
project
also
has
to
be
realized
to
sometimes
enter
into
those
agreements.
They'll
often
enter
into
a
letter
of
intent
and
otherwise
at
this
stage,
but
we
certainly
understand
the
concern,
but
we
want
to
be
clear
that
that's
something
on
top
of
the
available
parking
in
the
area.
S
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
we'll
go
to
the
public
just
before
we
do.
I'm
not
sure
how
many
of
you
are
here
for
this
application,
so
yeah
quick
show
of
hands.
We
didn't
do
a.
J
A
A
Not
done,
but
I
had
asked
that
teresa
since
she
had
raised
her
hand
that
she
go
first,
so
thank
you
appreciate
it,
but
limit
your
comments
to
three
minutes
and
to
topics
germane
to
the
application
and
please
remain
respectful
to
the
public
and
to
our
board
members.
Thank
you.
O
O
Some
of
these
projects
will
never
look
the
same.
So
on
that.
I
want
to
switch
hats
because
we
never.
It
was
never
political
or
anything.
It
was
just
an
opportunity
that
fell
in
our
lap
with
the
aia,
westchester
hudson
valley
and
they
came
in
and
it
just
worked.
It
was
magic
and
we
got
to
see
some
really
amazing
places.
O
O
O
One
bus
in
that
undersized
lot
will
cause
health
or
skelter,
let
alone
the
multiple
supply
of
delivery
trucks
that
will
be
repeatedly
going
to
this
site.
While
I
am
glad
the
newly
proposed
plan
has
a
maximum
number
of
attendees
at
198,
what
is
the
actual
total
when
you
include
performers,
venue
staff
and
cafe,
workers
to
quote.
O
Legal
representative
representative,
what
is
the
real
numbers
game?
I
can
still
hear
the
city
planner
state
at
a
previous
meeting,
that
it's
a
good
venue
idea
to
use
an
underutilized
church
structure,
but
it's
at
a
at
the
wrong
location.
I
strongly
believe
that
that
is
still
the
case.
Even
with
the
newly
proposed
lower
head
count,
it's
a
good
entertainment
concept,
but
still
on
the
wrong
size,
parcel
and
location.
O
I
would
like
to
see
the
city
of
beacon
remove
that
1964
or
74
exemption
clause
from
its
city
code
books.
It's
a
wild
card,
frequently
used
to
the
advantage
of
developers
and
mostly
new
to
town,
and
please
do
not
give
away
our
city's
public
parking
spaces,
do
not
approve
the
special
use,
permit
or
site
plan
approval,
as
it
will
severely
impact
all
residents
of
beacon,
including
you.
V
Viewpoint
please
clark
edmond
wilson.
Thank
you.
From
an
economic
viewpoint,
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
highest
and
best
use
the
city's
tax
non-residential
tax
benefits
that
are
realized
from
commercial
property
and
the
investment
and
personal
property
in
commercial
property.
V
The
best
view
of
the
hudson
valley
closest
to
main
street,
take
a
look
evaluate
it
for
yourself,
so
the
front
door,
the
train
station
and
the
the
idea
of
receiving
the
idea
of
passing
on
the
church
community
into
a
new
viable
opportunity
is
not
a
bad
thing,
but
it
can
be
achieved
in
the
properly
structured,
real
estate
transaction,
where
everyone
wins
and
all
the
goals
are
met.
The
issue
is
a
question
of
confidence
in
the
investment
community
that
the
city
of
beacon
is
ready
for
that.
V
Next
step
of
of
of
meaningful
properties
that
can
well
serve
the
international
airport
adjacent
to
us,
and
there
is
a
good
reason
to
have
economic
analysis
by
way
of
professional,
real
estate
analysis
to
guide
the
city
as
to
the
proper
scale
of
investment
that
generates
jobs
and
opportunity.
This
is
not
the
proposal
they
would
be
far
better.
The
city
would
be
far
better.
V
The
planning
will
be
far
better
off
designating
these
church
properties
that
are
linkage
to
the
train
station
in
a
way
that
promotes
and
informs
the
community
the
informs
the
international
airline
community
and
whomever
else
is
interested
in
investment
in
hotels
that
these
two
properties,
the
two
church
properties,
represent
an
idea.
It
represents
the
inculcation
of
the
community
and
arts,
with
the
practical
reality
of
the
necessity
of
creating
jobs,
creating
commercial
development,
the
city,
so
that
the
taxpayers
who
are
residents
are
not
overcome
by
this
development
opportunities.
V
G
AB
AB
Coming
more
of
that
activity
coming
to
beacon
my
question
for
you
and
you
you
not
be
able
to
answer
it
now
is
when
all
those
people
who
ignore
the
no
event
parking
signs,
because
there
is
no
enforcement
possible
on
those
signs
when
they
line
up
all
around
our
neighborhood.
AB
What
are
we
going
to
do
as
citizens
of
the
neighborhood?
What
will
you
suggest
that
we
do
because
it
will
happen?
We
know
it's
going
to
happen,
I'm
right
across
from
the
street
straight
from
it.
So
I
accept
this
is
going
to
happen.
I
support
the
actual
endeavor
of
it,
but
I
know
what's
going
to
happen
because
those
streets
are
so
narrow
that
if
people
park
on
both
sides,
it's
a
one-way
street
and
if
they're
going
down
that
street
to
go
to
the
former
basketball
parking
lot,
it's
going
to
make
it
even
worse.
AB
So
again
you
say:
there's
enough
parking,
but
on
a
micro
scale,
those
of
us
who
live
right.
There
are
going
to
have
to
deal
with
that,
and
I
just
ask
you
again
not
to
for
you
to
answer
it
now.
But
what
are
we
going
to
do
because
no
event
parking?
Nobody
pays
attention
to
signs
like
that.
Let's
be
real
so
anyway,.
P
Yeah
we
we
had
gone
out
and
got
a
petition
with
about
250
people
of
neighboring
people
that
live
in
the
community
around
this
event
there,
and
you
know
that
weren't
for
it
that
do
not
want
the
people
parking
on
their
street.
You
know,
they'll
have
a
signs
that
say
you
know
no
event
parking.
P
Probably
something
like
this
would
have
written
on
a
magic
marker.
You
know
I
mean
or
can't
they
propose
something
that
if
they
were
going
to
say
no
event
parking
and
blocked
the
streets
off
like
they
were
going
to
have
a
parade
on
main
street.
P
You
know
things
like
that
to
make
it
better
for
the
residents
there.
I
mean
you
guys
here
that
are
having
this
and
you
know.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea,
but
you
don't
live
there.
You
know
you
don't
want
to
walk
out
your
front
door
on
your
street
and
have
everybody
parked
there
and
there's
not
even
enough
room
for
a
damn
fire
truck
to
get
through.
P
It's
it's
crazy.
You
know,
and
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
was
you
know
for
the
events
you
know
we
went
from
320
down
to
198
or
whatever
it
is
the
you
know
what,
if
you
have
too
many
people
there,
what?
If
what
if
300
show
up
now?
What
are
you
going
to
do
we're
going
to
try
to
accommodate
them
and
because
there's
nobody
there
counting,
there's
no
city,
people
that
are
employed
to
be
there
and
protect
us?
P
The
cops
are
got
their
job
to
do,
you're,
hiring
people
that
are
going
to
direct
parking
out
on
the
street
or
tell
you
where
to
go
the
and
when
you
go
overboard
on
it
you
know
you're
gonna
get
fined,
you
know.
Did
we
come
down
from
320
to
198,
saying?
Well,
it's
cheaper
to
pay
the
fine.
What's
the
fine
twenty-five
dollars,
you
know
how
many
times
can
we
pay
this
fine
before
the
city
says
you
can't
have
it
anymore,
you
know.
P
P
D
P
A
You
thank
you
you
reminded
me.
We
do
have
quite
a
number
of
written
submissions,
letters
on
the
subject
as
part
of
the
public
hearing
component
to
this
application.
All
of
those
have
been
entered
into
the
record
for
the
record
hi.
F
Hi
jane
riley
for
stratford
avenue
so
right
down
the
road
from
where
this
project
is
proposed.
I
understand
what
they
want
to
do
and
I
can
be
supportive
of
the
arts.
However,
the
law
is
too
small.
G
F
A
R
R
For
us,
there
remains
some
key
objective
reasons
that
the
reduction
in
the
event
capacity
is
insufficient.
In
addition,
to
numerous
reasons,
numerous
issues
that
remain
on
or
inadequately
addressed,
we've
submitted
in
writing
to
you
in
detail
our
concerns
regarding
the
traffic
and
parking
considerations,
lack
of
clarity
around
the
hours
of
operation,
security,
noise
and
light
pollution.
So
I'm
not
going
to
repeat
those.
However,
I
do
wish
to
emphasize
our
concern
with
the
developers
describing
our
neighboring
community
as
high
density,
urban
living
environment.
As
we
all
know,
this
is
not
true.
R
R
R
R
We'd
like
to
know
how
the
developers
will
prevent
loitering
in
the
cemetery
park
and
pathway
before
and
after
hours
and
what
type
of
program
programming
does
the
developer
intend
to
host
for
larger
events.
Even
this
evening
we
heard
gavin
talking
about
supporting
the
arts
community,
yet
his
other
colleagues
were
talking
about
weddings
on
more
than
one
occasion.
R
So
there
seems
to
be
some
need
for
real
clarity
and
drilling
down
there
we'd
like
to
know
how
the
developers
ensure
that
if
they
have
their
property
approved
even
with
the
best
intentions,
they
wouldn't
then
sell
it
to
less
respectful
owners.
These
prop
these
developers
have
bought
and
sold
venues
in
the
past.
R
So
it
stands
to
reason
that
the
planning
board
should
consider
what
successive
ownership
should
look
like
if
this
is
approved
and
then
finally,
the
developers
claim
they've
consulted
the
local
community,
and
I
want
to
be
very
clear
here
because
I
represent
the
view
as
well
as
our
other
complexes,
but
they
haven't
engaged
in
any
discussion
with
the
residents
or
the
board
of
the
view
and
we'd
like
to
know
why
their
latest
proposal
doesn't
address
any
of
the
concerns
that
we
raised
at
the
last
meeting
back
in
june.
R
So
we'd
like
to
see
a
full
mitigation
plan
to
prevent
trespassers
and
address
the
noise
and
light
pollution
that
will
affect
the
communities
before
a
decision
is
reached
and
to
be
very
clear,
we
would
love
to
see
the
church
and
the
surroundings
come
to
life
in
a
way
that
enhances
our
community.
But
we
don't
believe
this
proposal
as
it
currently
stands
achieves
that.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
Thank.
B
You
can
I
ask
a
rhetorical
question
on
the
board
for
a
second.
If
the
goodwill
church
were
to
suddenly
get
an
extraordinarily
enigmatic
minister
and
300
people
started
showing
up
every
sunday
morning
and
singing
at
the
top
of
their
lungs
in
unison,
hymns
at
8am.
Would
there
be
any
recourse
for
that.
G
A
AC
The
view
30
beekman
street,
some
of
my
points
will
be
repeating
what
shelley's
just
said.
However,
I
think
they
bear
repeating
chilly
and
I
live
at
the
view
on
beekman
street
and
in
order
of
priority.
Our
concerns
and
questions
regarding
the
prophecy
theater
proposal
are
as
follows:
they
did
claim
prophecy
clear
claims
to
have
listened
to
the
concerns
of
the
local
community.
AC
I'd
like
to
note
for
the
record
that
no
one
from
their
organization
has
approached
the
you
know,
owners
or
the
board
at
the
view
who
have
formally
expressed
their
concerns
in
writing
and
verbally
in
person
at
the
last
meeting
with
petition
signatures.
The
latest
proposal
includes
no
reference
to
the
concerns
of
the
view.
In
fact,
the
plan
maps
do
not
depict
the
view
at
all,
nor
do
they
show
how
close
the
proposed
developments
are
to
our
41
unit.
AC
If
the
proposal
is
approved,
hotel
guests
will
overlook
the
views
south-facing
units
severely
compromising
our
privacy.
We
will
experience
not
only
extensive
noise
pollution
but
light
pollution
and
potential
trespassing
from
clients
of
the
hotel,
restaurant
bar
and
cafe,
which
is
proposed
to
operate
365
days
a
year
again.
You
know
this
is
not
a
high
density
urban
living
zone.
It
is
a
residential
area.
AC
Here
are
some
questions
that
we
had
we'd
like
to
have
answered
some
have
already
addressed,
but
why
haven't
they
reached
out
to
the
view
to
present
their
plans
and
address
our
concerns?
How
will
they
enforce
the
198
maximum
capacity?
How
will
they
ensure
their
clients?
Do
not
trespass
on
our
property,
whether
our
parking
or
walking
on
our
land?
How
will
they
manage
rowdy
late-night
crowds?
How
will
they
effectively
disperse
them
once
an
event
is
over
at
10
pm
on
weekdays
and
10
30
pm
on
weekends?
AC
Will
there
be
no
smoking
rule
for
the
entire
property,
including
outside?
Will
they
prohibit
outdoor
music
speakers
amplifiers?
What
steps
will
they
take
to
ensure
their
lighting
does
not
cause
light
pollution
for
our
four
residential
complexes,
which
would
be
the
view
river
ridge,
hammond
plaza
and
the
west
end
laws,
and
specifically,
you
know
for
the
residents
overlooked
by
the
hotel.
Will
they
fund
new
fencing
surrounding
the
entire
property,
including
on
the
boundary
line
between
the
hotel
and
the
beginning
of
the
views
property?
Will
they
install
sound
insulation?
AC
What
are
their
plans
to
ensure
the
graven
graveyard
is
not
destroyed
or
demolished,
and,
to
me,
most
importantly,
how
will
they
protect
the
habitats
of
animals
that
live
and
rest
in
and
around
the
graveyard,
and
that
includes
deer,
groundhogs,
rabbits,
migratory
birds
and
raptors
and,
as
shelly
said,
we
are
not
against
any
development
of
the
church.
It
just
has
to
be
an
appropriate
development
that
is
respectful
of
of
the
neighborhood
as
it
stands
now.
AC
AD
Alex
rivers,
two
academy
place
academy
straight,
live
directly
across
from
the
proposed
project.
I
do
have
to
say:
gavin
has
been
transparent,
reached
out
to
me
directly.
My
family
coming
over
make
personal
contact
as
far
as
his
ideas
and
plans
for
it.
So
I
know
that
some
have
spoken
that
he
hasn't
been
in
contact
with
me
with
them,
but
in
the
neighborhood
I've
been
in
contact
and
he's
been
very
transparent
with
what
he
is
proposing.
AD
I'm
honestly
on
the
fence.
I
came
here
to
be
open-minded
to
hear
about
all
the
possibilities
of
what
could
happen.
There
are
excellent
points,
actually
questions.
I
didn't
even
consider
yet
when
having
conversations
with
gavin,
I
do
think
that
the
drilling
down
and
the
making
definite
goals,
definite
punch
list,
definite
criteria
that
has
to
be
upheld.
The
parking
consideration,
I'm
sure,
there's
a
lot
of
smart
individuals
around
here
who
will
figure
that
out
the
traffic
that
actually
coming
in
when
you
have
the
amount
of
traffic
we've
all
been
out.
AD
You
know
going
home
friday
night
from
the
metro
north.
You
know
how
welcome
can
get
backed
up.
That's
we
can
be
a
consideration.
AD
I
just
feel,
like
you
know,
with
the
scope
that
I'm
seeing
it
now
it's
getting
a
little
bit
more
bigger
than
I
had
imagined
it,
so
it
just
now
it's
the
number
of
people
that
are
coming
in
and
out.
How
is
that
going
to
be
managed
and
controlled?
I
am
favor
of
arts.
I
am
favor
of
having
a
venue
of
some
sort
or
the
repurposing
of
some
of
a
historic
church
that
way
just
making
sure
that
it's
managing
a
more
up
in
a
fashion
that
works
for
everybody.
Thank
you.
AE
Dennis
pavalok
beacon
resident
just
sitting
here
listening
to
this
application
tonight
when
when,
when
the
funeral
home
has
a
funeral
and
I've
I've
seen
it
it's,
some
of
them
are
quite
large.
AE
R
AE
Can
tell
you
what
I
heard
here
tonight
was
a
was,
I
thought
was
a
when
I
was
always
involved
and
I
was
always
had
representing
people
and
john.
You
know
that
as
well
as
john,
you
know
that
as
well.
I
always
told
the
people
what
they
wanted
today
wanted
to
hear
and
know
what
they
should
hear.
Thank
you.
AF
Rachel
rivkin
10
river
ridge
court,
so
my
husband,
amanda
you've,
been
amazing.
I
submitted
his
letter
very
last
minute,
so
I'll
just
read
it
again.
His
name
is
del
brooks
a
resident
wait
which
way
this
way,
I'm
sure,
but.
G
AF
AF
Additionally,
the
venue
will
accelerate
pedestrian
foot
traffic,
which
further,
creates
and
heightens
public
safety
concerns
of
pedestrian
vehicle
knockdowns,
which
walking
the
streets.
Here
it's
become
very
dangerous,
so
I
can
say
that
case
in
point.
Manhattan
has
recently
taken
pedestrian
safety
into
consideration
by
reducing
vehicle
traffic
footprint,
thus
reducing
the
frequency
and
severity
of
the
pedestrian
industry.
AF
In
closing,
we
should
not
be
dismissive
on
going
too
fast,
I'm
sorry
or
discount
the
historic
significance
nor
the-
and
I
agree
with
all
this
nor
the
religious
social
acceptable.
Symbolism
of
the
adjacent
cemetery-
it's
very
easy
to
imagine
the
hooligans,
people
partying,
I'm
just
gonna,
now
take
it,
and
you
know
the
thought
of.
I
do
like
a
cemetery
they're,
apparently
the
who's
who
of
beacon
and
to
have
just
people
desecrating
those
stones.
AF
It
is
disheartening.
It
is
very
easy
to
imagine
hooligans
attending
a
concert
while
drinking,
among
other
things,
decimating
the
holy
land.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
allowing
me
to
voice
my
concerns
as
a
resident
vegan
literally
residing
with
my
life
next
door
to
the
church
regarding
this
commercial
proposal
and
as
elected
officials,
I'm
sure
you
will
heed
to
the
will
of
the
people
and
overlay
the
overreach
and
concerns
of
public
safety,
not
to
mention
the
potential
sound
decibel
levels
and
its
adverse
effect
to
the
surrounding
ecosystem,
not
limited
to
only
humans,
respect
respectfully
dale.
A
H
AF
O
A
AF
So
a
is
living
next
door
to
the
applicant
site.
I
do
not
want,
as
a
residential
homeowner
a
site,
a
sign
on
my
property
and
lawn
that
says
concerts
going.
Let's
just
do
that.
That's
going
to
ruin
our
lawn
that
we've
fought
so
hard
to
make.
I
mean
it's
impossible
to
make
any
law
nice
with,
unfortunately
the
heat
b.
I
don't
know
the
applicant's
history
in
terms
of
development
and
construction,
because
if
you
take
a
historic
site,
if
you
take
a
historic
site,
you
really
need
good.
AF
It's
not,
and
I'm
not
even
to
do
a
three
family
site
building.
That's
a
lot
of
work.
So,
let's
think
about
that.
I
don't
know
how
he's
going
to
build
underneath
the
infrastructure
and
then
also,
I
think
it's
actually
sorry.
I
think
it's
almost
not
it's
almost
rude
to
even
say
park
in
the
municipal
hall,
so
you're
going
to
say
park
at
the
government
official
building
where
the
police
are.
AF
So
if
I
want
to
have
a
rager
which
we
did
when
I
was
in
high
school
in
a
small
town,
we
didn't
say:
go
park
at
municipal
hall
plaza
if
that
makes
any
sense.
AF
We
follow,
if
I
have
a
rager
I'll,
just
say,
go
park
at
the
police
station
and
it's
I
know
it
and-
and
I
do
see
there
is
anyway.
Hopefully
you
can
just
see
and
the
hotel
30
room
hotels.
I
don't
know
if
it
still
has
one
operator,
but
I
don't
know
how
that
works
and
then,
if
we
still
have
only
10
attendees
for
the
now
reduced
thing,
I
still
don't
understand
how
that
works.
But
thank
you
all
so
much.
Thank.
AA
F
There's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
historic
church
and
I'm
not
being
I'm
not
trying
to
be
smart,
but
what's
going
to
be
left
once
this
group
gets
into
that
church
tears
it
apart
make
sure
that
there's
sound
proofing
what's
going
to
be
left
of
the
primary
building
after
you're
all
done,
can
we
see
it
before
now?
Can
we
see
a
before
and
after
what
are
you
going
to
have
left?
F
B
A
A
More
than
welcome
to
answer
your
question,
but
yes,
we
don't
necessarily
either
double
dip.
This
is
a
second
time
up.
So
thank
you.
Nor
do
we
engage
in
exchange
of
q,
a
with
the
public.
So
that's
a
policy.
S
A
G
A
Just
make
sure
I
announce
your
application,
we're
here
at
our
second
agenda
item.
I
can
get
this
thing
to
work.
A
AG
Correct
good
evening,
I'm
ed
kellogg,
I'm
with
mirbo,
and
we
just
wanted
to
spend
a
couple
minutes.
Updating
you
on
some
of
the
the
details
that
we've
included
in
our
last
submission
for
for
the
site
plan
a
lot
of
cleanup
items
really.
AG
So
if
we
go
to
the
the
master
plan,
mike
really
nothing
substantial
has
changed
here.
Are
there
a
couple
of
things
we
wanted
to
point
out?
We've
corrected
the
access
point
where
formerly
craighouse
lane
meets,
which
will
be
maribel.
Lane
meets
grandview
right
there,
so
we've
cleaned
up
some
vegetation
and
the
detailed
plans
will
show
that
other
other
than
that
at
the
south
end.
We've
cleaned
up
a
couple
of
notes
in
that
subdivision
parcel,
but
nothing
else
if
we
go
to
the
next
site
plan
mike.
AG
So
this
is
really
you
know
again
some
cleanup
the
entrance
circle.
There
was
some
circulation
issues.
So,
as
you
come
in
off
of
90
and
you
approach
the
entrance
circle,
you'll
be
able
to
go
and
drop
off
your
luggage
or
drop
off
your
guests
at
the
front
door
or
head
to
the
west
to
the
parking
areas
and
then,
if
you're
coming
from
the
west,
you'll
be
able
to
more
easily
pass
through
the
entrance
circle
and
then
head
back
out
to
90..
AG
So
we've
cleaned
up
a
lot
of
the
geometry
there
and
opened
that
up
and
added
some
signage
as
well.
The
entrance
the
exit
lane
out
to
90
is
now
single
lane.
That
was
one
of
the
comments
from
the
last
meeting
that
was
included
in
in
the
submission
down
at
the
west
parking
lots.
You
know
again,
we've
tried
to
play
with
or
keep
the
existing
grades
where
they
used
to
have
the
carriage
house
in
the
barn
there.
AG
So
that's
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
geometry:
there
that's
a
little
bit
tricky,
but
for
the
most
part,
we've
cleaned
up
that
we've
really
tried
to
eliminate
as
many
retaining
walls
as
we
can
working
with
the
existing
grades.
So
we
think
we've
accomplished
that
I
guess
back
to
the
master
plan
mike
sorry
about
that
there
was
a
comment
about
sight
lines.
AG
You
know
coming
along
mirabeau
lane
where
the
cottages
are
and
colliers
you
know,
did
an
analysis
of
sight
lines
and
I
think,
for
the
most
part,
it's
130
feet
in
both
directions,
which
really
can
allow
for
a
20
mile
per
hour.
Speed
limit
we're
going
to
have
posted
15
miles
per
hour,
speed
limit,
we
just
want
when
people
come
off
90.
We
just
want
you
to
from
any
direction
just
everything
gears
down,
so
that'll
be
15
miles
an
hour
on
the
entire
site.
AG
Yeah.
I
think
you
know
again,
signage
we've
cleaned
up
yeah
other
than
that.
Nothing
really
substantially
has
changed
on
the
site
plan.
You
know,
since
the
last
time
we
were
in
front
of
you
there's
a
lot
of
engineering
comments.
You
know
for
john
russo
that
with
the
water
and
sewer
report
and
swift-
and
things
like
that
that
we
need
to
address-
we've
addressed
a
lot
of
those,
but
there
will
continue
to
refine
that
and
include
in
the
next
submission
yeah.
AG
We
there
was
one
one
question
john,
had
about
cut
and
fill
analysis,
we're
going
through
that
right
now
as
well,
but
you
know
we
will
have
a
balanced
site
and
the
flexibility
we
have
is
in
the
the
ponds
that
are
part
of
the
monet
gardens
they're
kind
of
shaped
like
amoeba.
But
you
know
we
can
morph
the
amoeba
shape
and
change
the
depth
of
the
pond
so
that
we're
not
exporting
or
importing
any
fill
there'll
be
select.
AG
In
terms
of
overall
phasing
for
the
master
plan,
it's
all
about
just
you
know
just
the
initial
resort.
You
know
not
any
of
the
other
future
phases,
but-
and
we
won't
be
disturbing
anything-
you
know
a
long
grand
view
for
a
while,
anyways
but
and
we'll
be
back
in
front
of
you
for
any
site
plan
review
for
that.
We
have
spent
some
more
time
on
our
view
sheds
along
90,
and
we
had
the
opportunity
to
discuss
this
with
john,
but
henry
thomas
would
lrc
can
walk
us
through
that
sure.
AH
AH
We
have
shown
some
new
trees
in
the
landscape,
so
I
think
that's
something
we'd
like
to
certainly
get
some
feedback
on.
The
idea
is
that
we're
also
complementing
a
historic
landscape
and
building
for
the
future.
So
your
guidance
or
reaction
to
that
would
be
helpful.
AH
Second
thing
is
that
we
spent
some
concentrated
time
along
that
parking
that
is
adjacent
to
route
9d
and
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
deep
detail
with
plant
materials
and
a
little
bit
of
earthwork
and
and
notching
in
a
bit
of
a
wall
adjacent
to
that
second
curb
cut
with
the
intention
of
creating
those
sections
that
we
presented
as
design
intent
previously
in
terms
of
using
earthwork
and
landscape
to
soften
mitigate
screen.
AH
That's
an
area
where
there's
a
lot
of
existing
street
trees,
there's
other
small,
scattered
trees
in
that
front
yard,
and
so
the
plan
has
been
populated
with
a
lot
of
infill
in
there
to
provide
additional
screening
and
buffering,
hopefully
in
a
way
that's
more
natural
and
casual
rather
than
a
strong,
rigid
buffer,
but
one
that's
sort
of
complementary
to
the
casual
or
informal
style
of
the
property
in
general,
and
the
fourth
element
is
just
to
highlight
sort
of
a
string
of
garden
if
you
will
or
a
string
of
landscape.
AH
That
goes
all
the
way
from
the
western
parking
lot
across
the
front
of
the
hotel
and
along
the
front
or
the
street
side
of
the
hotel
bar
and
that's
sort
of
we've.
We've
really
developed
that
as
a
common
thread
that
we
think
ties
one
end
of
the
site
to
the
other
in
terms
of
this
immediate
hotel
area.
AH
AH
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
two
more
okay,
this
view
was
what
we
were
describing
as
the
secondary
primary
view
from
the
street
side
of
things,
and
previously
we
presented
this
existing
condition
and
if
you
switch
then
to
the
next
slide
mike,
we
presented
the
last
meeting
this
rendering,
which
was
starting
to
talk
about
and
show
the
nature
of
the
landscape
between
the
street
and
the
building.
AH
That's
the
next
slide,
where
we've
shown
use
of
broadleaf
evergreen,
specifically
in
inkberry,
is
what
I
think
we
use
of
several
different
varieties
of
inkberry
so
that
we
have
an
all-season
kind
of
of
a
of
an
edge,
but
it's
a
little
softer
than
evergreens
and
a
little
different
or
a
little
gentler
texture
than
evergreens.
AH
If
you
needed
evergreens
I
mean
so,
the
idea
would
be
that
we
get
more
height
out
of
those
than
we
had
previously
suggested,
we'll
continue
to
cut
detailed
sections
through
there
and
coordinate
that
with
planting
so
that,
as
we
show
one
or
the
other
that
they
are
tied
together.
So
I'm
confident
we
can
continue
to
flesh
that
out
so
that,
as
you
see
in
this
view,
the
parking
is
sort
of
behind
all
that
stuff,
but
yet
that
mansion
is
in
the
distance
one
other
switching
to
the
next
slide
mike.
AH
One
other
view
that
we'd
been
asked
to
respond
to-
and
this
was
in
our
submission
package-
was
the
view
south
from
the
mansion.
AH
If
you
came
out
the
back
door
or
the
back
entrance
looking
south
and
then
in
effect,
you're
looking
down
that
big
bowl
and
the
trees
that
you
see
in
the
distance
sort
of
in
the
middle
of
the
photograph
are
adjacent
to
the
watercourse
that
comes
down
from
route
9
and
there's
that
one
little
sliver
of
of
lawn,
that
you
see
right
almost
dead
center
in
the
photo.
That's
where
mirbo
lane
curves
around
and
heads
back
south.
AH
It
makes
that
s
curve
and
then
goes
south,
so
just
to
get
yourself
grounded
in
terms
of
what
you're
looking
at
the
next
slide
will
show
you
what
that
view
is
again
we're
standing
on
what
was
the
porch
but
would
be
now
a
new
deck
deck
from
the
mansion
on
the
left
is
the
chateau?
What
we're
calling
the
chateau
portion
of
the
hotel
on
the
right?
That
volume
is
the
conferencing
facility
and
underneath
the
foreground,
that's
flowers
and
grasses.
AH
That's
the
roofscape
over
what
we
call
the
grotto
rooms
below
and
so
we've
got
paved
terrace,
then
green
roof
and
then
to
the
left
of
that,
you
can
see
the
pond
gardens
starting
to
reveal
themselves
way
out
in
the
center
of
that
image,
right
where
that
cursor
was
that's
again.
Those
trees
that
are
at
that
water
course
coming
down.
AH
So
cottages
number
four
and
five
are
out
beyond
that,
so
they
will
have
at
best
in
the
wintertime
a
very
filtered
view
of
of
those
cottages
from
here
cottages.
One
through
three
are
almost
directly
off
the
line
of
that
conferencing
space,
but
they
are
two
things:
one
they
are
down
and
and
two
because
of
the
roof
terrace.
From
this
point
of
view,
they
are
below
the
sight
line.
Even
the
roof
is
below
the
sight
line.
AG
Next,
the
next
few,
mike
with
the
plan
yeah.
So
with
the
plan
you
can
see
this
v
and
if
there's
a
straight
line
from
the
west
side
of
the
dining
wing,
and
you
carry
that
out
those
cottages,
one
two
and
three
are
on
the
other
side
of
that
of
that
line
and
the
the
peak
of
the
roofs
of
those
cottages
are
at
the
same
floor
elevation
as
the
dining
wing,
which
is
the
same
floor
elevation
as
the
mansion.
AG
So
the
view
is
from
the
south
porch
and
you
can
see
cottages
four
or
four
and
five
are
about
five
to
six
hundred
feet
away
from
the
south
porch.
So
it's
quite
a
ways
away,
and
I
hope
that
portrayed
you
know
what
we're
trying
to
to
show,
but
but
it's
important
also
the
revised
view
with
the
heavier
low
plantings
from
90.
AG
AG
That's
the
highlights
of
what
we
wanted
to
talk
about.
You
know
we
yeah,
I
think
you
know
dan
larry
spoke
with
jennifer,
but
you
know
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
close
the
secret
public
hearing
tonight
and
maybe
set
a
public
hearing
date
for
the
site
plan
and
special
use
permit.
But
that's
that's
on
our
list
of
requests.
A
Yep
sure,
okay
yeah,
so
we
are
bored
still
in
open
secret
public
hearing.
You
did
touch
on
a
few
things
germaine
to
secret,
specifically
view
sheds,
so
we
want
to
just
make
sure
that
we're
settled
on
right.
A
So
with
that
I'll
ask
john
to
share
his
observations,
just
relative
to
your
back
and
forth
recently
on
that
and
other
aspects
of
your
application.
John
yeah.
N
My
primary
concerns
about
the
public
views
were
from
route
90
because
there's
some
good
shots
of
the
mansion
that
I
don't
want
to
see,
lost
and
there's
now,
there's
right
currently
there's
two
few
spots
but
you're
actually
going
to
create
a
third
because
you're
moving
the
driveway
to
the
north
and
taking
out
a
mound
and
some
landscaping
so
you're
going
to
have
a
broader
view
on
the
north
end
than
you'll
do
now.
AG
Yeah-
and
I
think
there
was
the
five
pink
trees
you
know
that
they
are
in
the
they're.
In
the
view
of
of
this
perspective,
right
here,.
N
Yeah,
so
I
think
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction.
I
just
pointed
out
that
some
of
those
low
plannings
weren't
high
enough
to
block
the
parking
lot
and
they
look
like
they're
working
to
correct
that,
and
I
also
identified,
I
think,
five
or
six
trees
newly
planted
proposed
trees
that
are
going
to
be
in
the
middle
of
that
view,
sheds
and
so
by
moving
them
to
the
left
to
right
a
little
bit.
You
can
frame
the
view
rather
than
block
the
view
as
those
grow
up
right.
So
that's
that
was
my
main
concern.
N
The
the
other
things
that
are
hanging
out
on
my
letter
are
the.
I
think
the
applicant
should
initiate
a
conversation
with
the
greenway
trail
committee
to
talk
about
their
desire
to
have
a
creek
front
path
and
and
maybe
to
consider
a
path
along
grand
view
and
south
avenue
that
frontage,
so
that
the
south
avenue
bridge
when
it's
when
it's
reconstructed
would
be
able
to
connect
the
fjord
trail
and
the
and
the
greenway
trail
along
the
west
side
of
the
creek
with
a
settlement
camp
in
the
mountains.
N
I
think
those
are
something
that
I'd
like
to
hear
the
greenway
trail
committee's
input
on
and
see
how
you
know
we
start
dialogue
with
them,
because
their
views
are
always
relatively
important
to
the
planning
board
in
terms
of
the
overall
trail
systems,
and
the
other
item
was,
if
indeed,
you
do
have
a
connection,
maybe
even
if
not
of
grandview,
there's
a
sidewalk
along
route.
N
90
I'd
like
to
see
a
crosswalk
to
the
park
across
the
street
in
settlement
camp
park,
because
presumably
people
here
on
this
property
might
want
to
go
over
there
and
90
could
use
a
crosswalk
there
from
the
sidewalk
across
the
way.
Anyway.
This
this
entrance
and
and
due
use
can
provide
that
opportunity.
I
hope
to
to
make
that
area
a
little
bit
more
connected
in
terms
of
trail
and
crosswalk
and
sidewalk
systems.
A
D
J
G
AI
AG
Crosswalk
at
9
d,
yeah,
it's
you
know,
people
are
driving,
you
know
faster
than
they
should
we're
going
to
have
the
left
hand,
turn
northbound.
So
there's
a
lot
going
on
right
there
that
yeah
so
we'll
take
a
closer
look.
T
So
the
applicant
has
done
considerable
work
on
engineering.
They've
submitted
an
updated
order,
sewer
report,
storm
order,
report
and
they've
done
a
lot
of
work
on
the
design
plans
themselves.
We
still
have
a
number
of
comments
that
we're
flushing
out
with
them
and
getting
things
cleaned
up
so
they're
progressing
towards
that.
So
there's
nothing
major
at
this
point.
That's
glaring,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
comments
to
be
dressed
still
as.
G
A
Notes
needs
some
update
relative
to
soil
testing.
T
They've
done
some
soil
testing
out
there
they're
doing
infiltration.
They
have
very
good
soils
for
doing
infiltration
in
the
storm
water
on
the
site
they
had
rain
gardens
previously
proposed.
Dec
only
allows
a
certain
area
of
collection
to
those
so
they're
going
to
bioretention,
but
I'd
like
to
see
if
we
can
go
to
some
sort
of
infiltration
at
those
locations
also,
so
it
may
require
some
additional
soil
testing
being
performed
at
those
locations.
A
When,
when
I
look
at
a
tree
removal
plan
and
notice
that
you've
put
an
x
over
and
marked
fallen
trees,
that's
that's
pretty
comprehensive
anyway
thoughts
around
the
board,
questions
or
comments
before
we
go
to
the
public.
E
Yes,
could
you
speak
to
gatehouse
lane
and
where
it
meets
grand
view,
do
you
are
you
going
to
gate
that
is
it
going
to
be
used?
Could
you
speak
to
that
intersection.
H
AG
Yeah
so
the
south
gate
house
we'll
we're
going
to
clean
up
the
exterior
just
like
we
are
with
the
taiwan
to
school.
You
know,
fix
the
landscaping,
make
sure
everything
is
stabilized.
You
know
they
all
have
plywood
windows
they're
with
painted
paint,
so
we'll
clean
that
up,
but
it's
not
part
of
this
development,
that's
actually
at
the
western
edge
of
that
future.
Subdivision
triangle.
AG
You
know
it's
like
a
seven
acre
parcel,
but
there
won't
be
access
through
gatehouse
lane
when
this,
when
the
rental
cottages
you
know
down
the
road
are
developed,
then
that
will
be
active
but
but
not
not
as
part
of
this
phase,
yeah
craighouse
lane,
you
know,
will
be,
which
is
where
the
corner,
where
the
farm
is.
AG
Yeah,
okay,
yeah,
our
you
know,
I
mean
our
schedule
still
is.
Hopefully
you
know
we're
through
this
process.
This
fall,
you
know
late
fall
and
you
know
start
demolition
in
february
and
open
in
the
summer
of
24..
You
know
that,
but
that's
all
about
you
know
the
mansion,
the
chateau
and
those
five
initial
cottages,
okay.
Z
Actually
didn't
have
any
our
comments
have
to
do
with
the
site
plan
review.
I
was
going
to
say,
though,
that
their
traffic
city
that
they
prepared
did
forecast
the
cottage
the
traffic
impacts
of
the
cottages
and
their
access
barn
chance.
They
would
access
the
gatehouse
lane
from
grandview
avenue,
so
they
have
looked
into
that
even
though
right
now
it's
a
phase
or
a
forecasted
plan,
but
yeah
our
comments,
don't
have
to
do
a
secret
review.
If
that's
what
we
want
to
stick
to.
AG
AG
Yeah,
I
mean
whether
whether
they
still
have
to
check
in
so
whether
they're,
coming
from
the
south
or
from
the
north
they're
going
to
have
to
come
to
the
front
door
of
the
mansion
to
check
in
so
from
that
point.
They'll
just
they'll
just
go
around
the
side
of
the
mansion
and
head
down
to
down
gatehouse
lane,
as
opposed
to
going
back
out
on
90
and
taking
a
right
on
grandview.
E
AG
H
E
And
then
one
other
question
on
just
on
the
landscaping
very
detailed
question
at
this
stage
of
the
game.
Perhaps,
but
you
have
planting
on
the
the
northeast
side
of
the
northernmost
parking
arc,
but
there's
there's
a
gap
where,
if
you're
standing
at
the
mansion
looking
into
the
field,
perhaps
you
see
the
parking
lot.
AH
H
AH
AH
AH
Primarily
at
that
point,
I'm
sorry
separating
that
from
the
tent
venue
area
that
we
were
had
shown
on
the
plan
yeah.
So
it
was
the
view
going
toward
the
parking
and
so
the
other
way
around.
D
AG
J
B
Jill's
not
here
tonight,
but
there
was
a
a
comment
raised
by
jill
in
some
follow-up
after
the
architectural
review
board
meeting
about
you're,
just
kind
of
softening
the
visual
impact
of
the
hotel.
As
potentially
like
a
more
kind
of
georgian
structure
versus
the
existing
house,
you
know
as
a
as
a
gothic
kind
of
a
different
style,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if,
if
there's
a
plan
to
have
plantings
on
the
east
side
of
the
ponds,
I'm
looking
I'm
thinking
about
the
rendering.
AH
AH
That
area
we've
we've
started
to
dive
in
in
terms
of
the
plans
here,
but
we're
and
we're
diving
in
much
more
aggressively
now
internally
in
there,
knowing
that
that
wasn't
sort
of
the
first
and
foremost
view
issue.
But
we
are
working
our
way
into
that
yeah.
B
While
we
were
talking,
I
was
just
looking
at
some
money
garden
pictures
and
realizing
how
the
right
fringe
can
really
soften
the
base
of
a
building
and
and
would
probably
just
really
kind
of
smooth
out.
You
know
the
potential
transition
between
two.
AG
L
Good
work,
I'm
I'm
pleased
with
everything
I'm
seeing,
although
there
seems
to
be
some
changes
and
that
I
look
forward
to
examining
a
little
closer
just
so
I
understand
it
better.
Okay,.
A
Great
okay,
so,
as
mentioned
we're
at
secret
public
hearing,
so
anyone
from
the
public
would
like
to
share
their
thoughts
or
comments.
Please
do.
V
Clark
edmond
to
wilson,
I'd
like
to
re,
also
return
to
this
economic
proposition
of
what's
going
on
here
in
terms
of
land
use
and
the
benefits
to
the
city.
Being
this
fact,
this
is
a
commercial
project.
V
First
of
all,
congratulations
to
the
the
team.
That's
presenting
it's
awesome.
I
don't
think
we've
seen
something
so
complete
in
years
in
the
city
of
beacon,
perhaps
I'm
wrong,
but
it
seems
pretty
impressive.
So
the
issue
is
not
particularly
against
the
establishment
of
the
resort,
but
I
think
the
issue
is,
I
think
the
the
planning
board
may
be
just
an
errand,
just
a
small
part
of
it,
and
that
is
the
bifurcation
of
the
real
estate
for
the
general
assemblage
that
presents
the
project
upon
completion
in
two
phases.
V
What
happens
when,
when
a
project
like
this
is
bifurcated
from
commercial
use,
to
like
residual
residential
use
is
that
the
land
is
parked
and
the
ability
to
detect
to
collect
real
taxation
on
the
value
of
the
land
and
how
it
purports
to
perhaps
contribute
to
additional
expansion
or
or
residential
usage
of
a
certain
density?
What
happens
is
that
the
land
it
continues
to
be
probably
assessed
at
a
two
acre
zoning,
because
that's
the
current
zoning.
V
So
when
you're
changing
part
of
the
project
and
then
favoring
the
other
part,
knowing
full
well
that
it's
not
ever
going
to
be
built
as
two
acres
owning
it
becomes
kind
of
farcical,
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
bring
to
the
planning
boards
attention
that
taxation
and
generation
of
commercial
entities
in
the
city
of
beacon
needs
to
be
examined.
From
the
perspective
of
maximizing
the
opportunity
for
economic
development
jobs
as
well
as
taxation,
that
is
not
residential
in
scope,
but
helps
contribute
to
any
imbalance
that
may
exist
for
collection
of
school
taxes.
V
AL
Hi,
my
name
is
millie
solomon
and
I'm
a
neighbor
in
the
in
the
neighborhood,
where
this
project
is
going
in
and
I'm
excited
about
it.
I
support
it.
I
think
it's
it.
It's
been.
The
craig
estate
has
been
in
ruin
for
a
very
long
time,
so
I'm
very
positively
inclined,
but
I
wanted
to
talk
about
three
things:
trees,
noise
and
community
benefit
in
regard
to
trees.
There's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
new
plantings,
but
that
lawn
is
filled
with
really
beautiful
and
some
very
unusual
trees.
So
I
would
want
to.
AL
I
would
recommend
that
an
independent
arborist
have
a
chance
to
look
at
those
trees
and
decide
how
best
to
preserve.
What's
really
beautiful
there
in
terms
of
noise,
I've
read
that
there's
going
to
be
wedding
facilities
outdoors
with
a
tent,
so
I'm
concerned
about
what
the
noise
implications
will
be,
maybe
less
for
where
I
live,
but
more
for
the
for
the
other
side,
and
so
again
I
would
want
to
see
some
sort
of
sound
engineering
report
about
about
the
noise.
AL
I
I
think
it
would
be
really
an
imposition
on
the
neighborhoods
on
both
sides
to
have
lots
of
weekend
noise
outside
in
what
is
now
a
very
peaceful
and
beautiful
neighborhood.
And
then
I
wanted
to
talk
about
community
benefit,
and
I
know
it
is.
What
I'm
going
to
suggest
is
not
really
something
that
is
going
to
come
up
until
the
second
phase
of
the
project.
AL
AL
This
commercial
project
is
great,
but
it's
also
benefiting
from
the
public
asset
of
the
of
the
park
across
the
fishkill
creek.
It's
part
of
the
value
of
that
property
is
that
it's
just
across
the
fishkill
creek
to
the
to
the
madame
brett
park
and
the
fjord
trail,
and
so
could
we
think
really
creatively
about
a
way
to
encourage
the
developers
to
create
some
kind
of
public.
You
know
to
make
a
commitment
to
restoring
a
pool
that
people
could
do
indoor
swimming.
It
would
be
a
recreational
asset
during
the
winter
months.
AL
AM
A
AM
AM
Is
there
going
to
be
a
turning
lane
on
90,
because
we
had
the
university
settlement
across
the
street
and
then
you'll
have
the
maribel?
Is
that
it
maribel
okay
maribel
there
will
there
be
a
turning
lane
so
that
people
can
get
in
and
out
and
and
because
the
traffic
gets
very
heavy
towards
the
end
of
the
rush
hour
or
90.?
AM
So
I
wanted
to
know
about
that.
The
other
thing
is,
I
had
spoken.
R
AM
Bland
who's,
the
person
for
four,
where
we
live
district
four
and
my
request-
was
that
there'd
be
a
25
mile
per
hour.
Speed
limit
on
slogan,
road
going
into
grand
view,
but
I
heard
someone
tonight
say
something
about
15
miles
an
hour.
So,
what's
going
to
happen,.
AM
A
AM
AH
AM
The
gatehouse
all
the
way
down
to
grandview
yeah,
okay.
So
what
brick?
One?
That's
a
single
house
or
something?
That's,
not
a
brick
house.
AM
AM
AM
Is
are
they
going
to
make
a
distinct
landscaping,
something
because,
right
now
it
looks
unkempt
between
where
the
places
and
down
to
grand
view,
and
so
I
was
wondering
when
they
do
the
mowing:
do
they
do
the
mowing
all
the
way
to
the
sidewalk
or
how
are
they
going
to
handle
that
with
the
landscaping
that's
going
to
take
place.
AN
Last
time
I
was
here,
I
questioned
the
because
it
was
on
the
miraber
website
at
the
time
about
the
250
guest
event
tent,
which
we
seem
to
all
have
concerns
about,
but
as
of
a
couple
of
days
ago,
or
maybe
within
the
last
day,
I
see
it's
it's
no
longer
on
the
mirror
website.
So
has
that
I
guess
my
question
is:
is
the
250
guest
event
tent
now?
You
know
a
thing
of
the
past.
AN
Hopefully
that
was
one
question
a
second
or
is
it
we
still
talking
about
85
85
rooms,
because
I
I
just
I
didn't
see
that
on
this
site
plan,
how
many
people
will
the
restaurant
accommodate
and
all-
and
this
is
all
leading
to
basically,
you
know-
have
concerns
about
traffic,
especially
looking
at
the
the
main
entrance
way
where
you
have
one
lane
in
and
one
lane
out,
our
car
is
going
to
be
making
coming
north.
J
AN
Going
to
be
making
a
left
into
that
main
entrance
and
cars
coming
out
of
mirbu
trying
to
go
north
on
90
trying
to
make
a
left.
That
seems
like
that's,
going
to
be
a
lot
going
on
there
that
just
just
shouldn't
be
there's.
Hopefully
you
can
figure
out
a
way
to
to
make
the
traffic
less
hazardous
there,
and
so
that's
that's.
A
big
concern
is
traffic
on
9d,
because
there's
just
too
late.
AN
It's
gonna
go
on
forever
and
it's
again,
especially
if
there's
a
lot
of
cars
coming
out
of
mirror
wood
at
any
given
time,
especially
for
a
wedding
and
also
the
the
tire
on
the
bridge
which
I
believe
has
been
in
the
works
for
years,
which
I'm
just
wondering
if
that
has,
if
there's
any,
if
this
development
by
mirbu
will
in
any
way
affect
the
plans
for
the
tier
on
the
bridge
originally
or
for
the
longest
time,
I've
been
hearing
that
it's
going
to
be
a
you
know:
pedestrian
and
a
bridge
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists
and
emergency
vehicles,
and
that's
great.
AN
But
I
learned
more
recently
that
the
existing
structure
cannot
accommodate
it
and
it
has
to
be
replaced,
which
kind
of
blew
my
mind.
But
anyway,
I'm
just
wondering
if,
if
with
having
mirabeau
own
the
you
know,
the
bulk
of
the
property
nearby
is,
that
is
the
tier
on
the
bridge.
Are
those
plans
going
to
be
affected
and
what
else
and
just
a
question
I
meant
to
ask
the
last
time-
and
I
just
a
place
like
this-
is
going
to
use
a
hell
of
a
lot
of
water.
AN
I
hope
somebody
has
figured
out
where
it's
coming
from,
because
I
didn't
think
that
the
reservoirs
and
beacon
were
bottomless,
so
I
hope
somebody
has
that
figured
out
because
right
now
we're
in
a
drought-
and
you
know
a
couple
years
from
now
when
mirabeau
is
up
and
running-
and
you
know
everyone,
everyone
who
walks
in
and
out
of
that
place
is
going
to
be
showering
or,
or
you
know,
one
way
or
another,
either
in
the
hotel
room
or
in
the
spa
where's
all
this
water
coming
from.
AN
So
you
know
if
we
have
a
drought
in
the
future,
and
inevitably
we
will,
the
restrictions
are
gonna,
come
much
much.
It
seems
like
they're
gonna
come
much
sooner
once
this
place
opens
and
again,
I'm
totally
in
favor
of
this
place.
I
want
it
to
happen.
I
think
it's
a
great
use
of
the
of
the
property.
AN
A
O
The
expansive
view
of
the
historic
site
is
a
majestic
experience
as
people
travel
by
or
are
lucky
enough
to
stop
and
visit
plantings.
Take
time
to
fill
in
over
time.
I
would
like
to
see
the
main
entry
driveway
parking
lot
pulled
even
further
south
away
from
the
main
view
shed
of
the
historic
estate.
O
O
O
It
does
not
need
to
look
exactly
like
their
other
spa
properties
to
be
part
of
the
same
company
brand.
I
think
this
project
is
special
and
the
spa
building
has
to
be
set
off
in
a
whole
different
design
style
so
that
it
does
not
look
like
it's
trying
to
mimic
the
historic
architecture
of
frederick
clark
withers.
O
I
think
we
should
also
see
a
little
more
of
the
richard
morris
hunt
music
room,
but
what
I
do
know
is
it
can't
be
a
cookie
cutter,
chateau
design
style,
as
that
too,
is
out
of
character
for
this
location.
In
the
hudson
valley,
I
did
hear
through
the
historic
hotline
today
that
frank
kwalski
is
writing
another
book
on
the
architecture
of
frederick
clark,
withers
and
he's
a
wealth
of
knowledge
and
a
primary
source.
Information
and
facts.
O
AE
I
just
have
a
few
concerns,
I'm
I'm
for
the
project,
so
what
I've
seen
so
far
on
some
drawings
and
what
I've
heard
tonight.
I
just
have
a
few
questions
going
by
the
property
on
the
right
side,
south
going
on
9d
some
of
the
high
grass.
I
know
there's
no
ecstatics
going
on
right
now,
but
they
can
manage
to
cut
that
high
grass
down
off
the
right
side
there
going
down
90
on
the
south
that
that
can
be
taken
care
of
it
looks
kind
of
a
little
high
there
on
that
one
side.
AE
But,
however,
I
just
wanted
to
also
add
that
is
there
any?
Were
there
any
existing
structures
prior
to
even
before
you
got
the
property
or
prior
to
the
other
owners
owning
it?
Were
there
any
structures
that
either
deteriorated?
You
want
to
put
back
on
the
property
outside
of
the
cabins.
AE
AE
AG
Just
because
it's
so
important
in
terms
of
safety,
we
do
have
a
left-hand
turn
lane
northbound
that's
dedicated
to
go
into
the
site
and
also
with
landscape
maintenance.
I
mean
we're
we're
mowing
the
lawn
every
week
right
now
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that,
even
as
far
down
south
as
grand
view,
just
because
we
want
the
whole
property
look
nice.
So
we'll
just
continue
to
maintain
that
you
know
until
we
do
something
down
there
and
then
continue
to
maintain
it
more.
But
it
was
a
true.
AG
A
AG
No,
I
think
you
know
with
the
lawn
areas
in
front.
You
know
we're
gonna
be
using.
You
know
water
coming,
you
know
for
the
most
part
out
of
the
building
for
the
irrigation
system,
but
we
are
looking
at
drilling
some
wells,
so
all
of
these
ponds
they
evaporate
every
day.
You
know
so
we're
thinking
so
that
we
don't
use.
You
know,
municipal
water.
AG
Is
that
we'll
drill
some
wells
to
replenish
those
ponds
I
mean
just
a
swimming
pool
will
evaporate,
especially
now
you
know
a
half
an
inch
an
inch
a
day,
but
so
that's
our
plan,
but
but
we
we
are
looking
at
using
wells
for
irrigation
as
well.
Just
kind
of
depends
on
where
it
is
on
the
site.
When
you
see.
G
G
AG
Water
reclamation,
yeah
and
we're
you
know
we're
going
to
have
two
water
meter
pits
so
one
on
grand
view,
one
on
90.,
so
the
site
will
be
circled
with
water.
So
if
god
forbid,
something
happened
to
the
main
9d,
you
know
we
have
backup
got.
J
T
Z
AG
Z
Oh
okay,
I
agree
all
right.
It
was
on
the
initial
submission.
I
thought
that
y'all
had
protracted
that
improvement
based
on
the
traffic
analysis,
just
showing
a
shared
through
left
turn
lane
for
that
approach.
Z
No,
I
agree
with
that,
but
we're
also
I'm
also
talking
about
the
entry
lane
that
northbound
approach
on
9d,
the
most
recent
synchro
analysis
shows
it
being
a
shared
through
left.
Not
an
exclusive
left
turn
lane.
W
W
But
the
traffic
study
did
analyze
whether
or
not
a
left
turn
lane
would
would
be
needed
there
based
on
the
left,
turn
lane
warrant
criteria
and
it
did
show
that
it
was
marketed
for
that
location.
So,
that's
why
we're
proposing
it,
and
there
is
a
there-
is
a
plan
in
our
traffic
study
that
shows
the
layout
the
potential
layout
of
that
left
turn.
Okay.
It's.
G
AG
A
AB
Q
Direct
us
to
prepare
a
resolution.
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
issues
that
were
raised
tonight
that
still
need
to
be
hashed
out,
so
the.
A
Great
thanks.
Sarah
that's
thoughts
on
directing
eric
engen's
office
on
prep
of
draft
neck
deck.
Any
thoughts
that.
K
J
K
A
By
kevin
all
in
favor
aye
aye,
and
then
we
can
talk
about
scheduling,
site
plan
and
subdivision
public
hearings
for
next
month,
though,
secret
needs
to
be
closed
before
we
open
that
public
hearing
right.
B
A
N
Q
Chairman
one
other
issue
that
had
come
up-
and
I
don't
know
who
was
mentioned
tonight
tonight
already-
was
whether
the
state
historic
preservation
office
had
some.
Q
Tonight
to
the
to
the
applicant.
AG
AG
So
yeah,
but
is
that
something
that
the
city
I
mean
it
was
submitted
directly
to
shippo,
I'm
not
sure
what
year
it
was,
but
that's
something
the
city
refers
it
to
them,
or
should
we.
T
Q
AG
They
did
receive
the
circulation
for
for
lead
agency.
A
Okay,
great
so
any
other
thoughts
on
scheduling,
site
plan
and
subdivision
public
hearing
I'll
accept
a
motion.
Motion
motion
by
kevin.
E
A
As
far
as
our
continued
review
of
secret,
I
want
to
hear
back
from
you
on
yes
that
next
month,
great.
A
A
A
Can
you
guys,
if
you
guys
have
a
conversation
to
to
have
please
take
it
outside?
Thank
you
so
again,
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
a
public
hearing
for
secret
environmental
review
on
an
application
for
subdivision
approval.
AA
Watson
evening
we're
here
to
have
your
comments
with
regard
to
seeker,
we've
recently
submitted
additional
revised
plans.
Responding
to
mr
clark
and
mr
russo's
comment
letters
we
got
by
mr
clark.
Okay,
mr
russo.
We
got
down
to
three
pages,
so
that's
a
pretty
much
of
an
accomplishment
when
you
consider
him.
A
Three
pages:
well,
just
one
sec.
Administratively,
I
want
to
take
care
of
a
motion
to
open
the
secret
public
hearing.
Please
option.
J
H
A
Thank
you
so
yeah,
let's,
let's
talk
quickly
about
just
that,
our
planner
and
engineers
observations
anything
we'll
start
with
mr
russo,
since
his
are
so
voluminous
that
you'd
like
to
at
least
highlight.
T
AO
T
Drainage
plan
you're
picking
up
the
roof
leaders
you're
bringing
to
the
drainage
system
same
with
the
footing
drain,
but
I
have
concerns
with
where
the
footing
drain
is
tied.
I'd
rather
see
that
brought
out
to
the
catch
basin.
So
this
way,
if
it
backs
up
the
grate,
is
lower
than
the
actual
footing
drain
itself.
T
AA
A
Clark
speechless:
that's
no
easy
task,
any
thoughts
or
questions
around
the
board.
E
AA
Architecturally
designed
it's
not
that
big
a
building,
but
it
it
is
a
little
bit
bigger
than
the
other
buildings.
Yes
I'll
talk
of
the
client
about
it.
A
AA
A
B
I'm
just
in
light
in
regard
to
john
russo's
comment
about
conveying
that
drainage
away
from
the
building
foundation
or
putting
in
a
backflow
preventer.
L
L
Amount
of
impervious
surface
of
especially
in
front
of
the
existing
structures,
yes,
and
to
the
extent
you've
been
able
to,
I
think,
you've
minimized
it
on
the
on
the
new
development,
and
my
main
concerns
have
been
addressed
about
the
ground,
water
and
and
how
you've
been
dealing
with
that
right
or
at
least
they're
being
addressed.
They've
been
spoken
to.
A
AP
Sorry,
thanks
38
johnson,
I
paula
was
the
contractor
in
my
home,
and
I've
been
watching
what
she's
doing
with
joe
hockler's
property.
I
have
questions
about
the
size.
There's
the
size
of
the
new
dwelling
is
listed
at
3
000
square
feet,
but
what's
the
size
of
joe's
property,
because
that
house
extends
pretty
far
out
and
you
and
it
does
dwarf,
linda
weber's
house
by
quite
a
bit.
It
goes
all
the
way
back
to
a
fire
like
a
fire
patio
things.
She
has
there's
also
a
tree,
a
really
beautiful
old
maple
tree.
AP
I
think
that
she
has
told
linda
she's
going
to
cut
down,
but
it's
not
listed
here
as
being
cut
down.
So
I
have.
I
have
concerns
about
the
kind
of
having
worked
with
paula,
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
what
gets
said
and
then
what
gets
done,
and
I
want
those
things
written
really
clearly
as
far
as
the
size
of
the
homes
go.
If
you
look
at
what
was
done
on
churchill,
if
you
look
at
what
was
done
on
russell
those
houses,
don't
match
the
neighborhood
they're
very
large
they're,
not
of
the
same
milk.
AP
AP
AP
The
neighbors
are
very
concerned
they're
also
very
concerned
about
drainage,
and
I'm
glad
we're
addressing
that
because
in
my
property
she
put
the
dry
well
in
the
backyard
and
by
basement
floods
every
single
time,
there's
a
bit
of
rain
we're
on
a
bit
of
a
flood
plain,
and
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
our
homes
don't
flood
as
a
result
of
poorly
done
work.
So
my
last
comment
is
that
dave
buckley
who
came
to
my
house
after
I
had
to
do
a
stop
work
order.
AP
He
came
and
said
these
are
the
things
you
need
to
do
to
get
it
to
pass
code.
He
never
came
back
to
check.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
whatever
you
all
say,
gets
checked
and
checked
again
and
that
there
aren't
promises
that
are
made
to
do
things
and
then
they're
not
done
okay.
We
have
some
really
big
concerns
on
our
street
and
I
know
that
behind
right
behind
the
property,
there's
some
pretty
big
concerns.
AP
There's
concerns
at
the
on
the
crossroads
that
there's
going
to
be
flooding
of
the
houses
at
our
caddy
corner,
because
there
already
is
flooding
from
the
street.
So
we're
just
really
we're
just
pretty
concerned
about
what
it's
going
to
do
to
views
linda's
view
is
ruined
the
trees,
the
size
of
the
properties
and
making
sure
that
you
all
keep
everyone
to
their
word
about.
What's
going
to
get
changed
and
what's
going
to
get
fixed
because
that
hasn't
been
the
case.
In
my
estimation,.
AE
It's
going
to
not
only
ruin
the
neighborhood,
it's
going
to
destroy
its
aesthetics
and
it's
going
to
and
it's
going
to
take
my
view
of
the
mountain
away
from
we
enjoy
the
look
of
the
look
of
the
mountain
and
it's
going
to
ruin
that
view
and
if
they
cut
that
maple
tree
down.
Like
my
other
neighbors
said
here,
I'm
against
that
as
well,
and
a
lot
of
I've
noticed
a
lot
of
developers
and
builders
when
they
got
to
go
into
the
street.
AE
They
don't
come
back
and
do
their
due
diligence
with
correcting
the
street
with
with
as
a
as
the
blacktop
settles,
they
do
not
come
back
and
and
cover
that
I
had
to
get
that
taken
care
of
three
four
months.
Another
developer
builder
had
to
go
through
the
same
thing.
I
had
to
go
down
and
keep
complaining
about
replacing
the
blacktop
that
settled
in
an
area
in
the
city
and
it's
ridiculous.
J
A
AQ
Hi
francesca
coletto
a
crescent
drive
and
beacon,
so
I
work
for
paula
as
a
site
manager,
and
I
will
be
on
site
here
every
single
day
until
completion
of
this
proposed
project,
I've
been
working
with
paula
for
about
a
year
now,
so
the
last
few
projects
that
she's
worked
on
I've
had
a
very
close
hand
in
making
sure
that
everything
runs
smoothly.
Everybody
is
you
know,
meeting
all
requirements.
AQ
AQ
AQ
She
I
mean,
there's
a
reason:
I'm
going
to
be
on
site
every
day
and
there's
a
reason
that
I'm
here
tonight-
and
I
do
also
want
to
hear
all
of
the
residents,
concerns
and
comments
again.
Personally,
I
will
be
there
every
day,
so
I
want
to
hear
what's
going
on
and
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
doing
everything
that
I
can
to
make
sure
everything
goes
smoothly
and
then
we're
only
adding
value
to
beacon
with
these
projects.
A
Okay,
I
think
we're
gonna
keep
secret.
Q
G
Q
Submitted
for
the
you
know
and
addressed,
I
don't
know
why
that
whether
that
was
agreed
to
or.
AA
No,
but
we
submitted
a
short
form
eaf
initially
and
was
asked
for.
My
understanding
is
because
I
wasn't
at
the
last
meeting
that
were
asked
for
two
specific
sections
which
we
submitted
and
if,
if
that's
not
what
was
communicated,
I
apologize
it's
no.
R
H
E
Other
question
yeah:
please
the
48
inch
maple
tree.
That's
I
don't
know
what
corner
the
east.
A
H
AA
AA
Yes,
there
is
there's
a
there's:
a
there
are
two
trees
to
be
removed.
Actually
one
is
at
the
westerly
most
corner
of
the
property
you'll
see
it's
you'll,
see
it's
on
the
existing
condition
plan
and
not
on
the
final
condition
plan
that
tree
will
go
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
AA
One
is
that
there
is
a
the
city
requires
a
site
easement
and
grading
along
there
to
maintain
that
site,
easement
and,
secondly,
there's
the
drainage
to
catch
the
the
groundwater
and
bring
it
into
the
catch
base
and
we're
going
to
be
in
we're
going
to
be
affecting
that
tree.
That's
not
a
particularly.
AA
Great
tree
and
and
like
this
activity
that
has
to
happen,
the
the
other
tree
that
is
it
has
to
is
is
a
pine
tree,
which
actually
is
quite
a
good
looking
tree,
but
it
did
it
just
it.
The
logistics
of
the
thing
just
won't,
let
it
be
made,
and
that's
that's
I'm
pointing
to
that
with
the
cursor.
Now
that's
right
in
the
front
in
the
middle
of
the
book,
it
interferes
with
the
driveway
and
and
and
the
access
to
the
house.
AA
So
that's
so
that
we're
taking
off,
but
mr
clark's
report
he
had
requested
a
couple
of
extra
trees,
so
we
have
put
in
we
have
put
in
three
trees
along
the
new
property
line
and
we
put
in
two
trees
along
the
union
union
along
union
to
to
make
up
for
that.
D
AA
E
No,
but
I
would,
I
would
encourage
you,
know,
a
fence
to
protect
the.
AA
A
Part
of
it
would
be
okay,
so
thoughts
on
directing
eric's
office
to
draft
neg
deck
in
advance
of
next
meeting
in
the
eventuality
that
the
applicant's
ready
with
some
of
their
open
items,
we
talked
about
relative
to
secret
any
thoughts,
I'm
generally.
Okay.
With
that
motion
motion.
Q
I
suppose
the
same
process
can
be
taken.
If
we
can
adopt
the
resolution
before
then
the
public
hearing
can
go
forward.
If
you
believe
you
have
sufficient
information
to
open
that
public
hearing.
A
Thank
you
very
much
good
night.
You're
welcome
have
a
good
night.
Okay,
next
item
on
the
agenda:
31
beacon:
this
is
a
public
hearing
on
application
for
special
use,
permit
approval
and
site
plan
approval,
accessory
apartment,
31
biggest
greed
good
evening,
good.
M
Q
M
You
please,
okay,
thank
you.
So
the
property
is
at
31
beacon
street,
the
owner's
proposing
to
create
an
accessory
apartment
and
the
lower
level
of
the
house.
M
A
We
do
have
a
draft
in
place
that
we
can
discuss
thanks
for
the
reminder,
go
to
our
city,
planner
engineer,
just
real,
quick,
anything
john
or
john.
A
N
The
only
comment
I
have
is
that
there's
a
required
three
parking
spaces
here
and
it
has
to
be
five
feet
from
the
side
and
rear
property
lines,
and
so
I'd
prefer,
if
you,
instead
of
showing
cars,
show
a
nine
by
eighteen
space
and
make
sure
that
it's
five
feet
from
those
two
property
boundaries.
Okay,
yeah.
N
H
A
We're
not
there
yet,
but
that's
good
to
know
hold
on
to
that.
No.
E
K
A
Motion
by
lynn,
second,
second,
by
karen
all
in
favor
and
then
as
mentioned
by
the
applicant,
we
do
have
a
draft
resolution
to
adopt
in
place
any
discussion,
thoughts,
questions
for
eric
on
the
subject
or
motion
to
adopt.
E
K
A
L
A
We're
continuing
our
review.
M
D
M
M
Good
evening,
so
again
we
submitted
revised
plans
based
on
the
comments
we
received
last
month
and
again,
there's
some,
I
believe,
relatively
minor
revisions
to
make.
Based
on
the
recent
comments,
we
received
I'll
review
that
page
versus
grass
area
that
john
russo
commented
on
and
we
I
also
believe
that
there's
a
resolution
that
was
authorized
to
be
reviewed
for
this
one.
There
is,
and
yes-
and
any
of
these
last
things
we
can
make
subject
to
taking
care
of
those
yeah.
A
T
I
don't
know
yeah
you're,
welcome
thanks,
sorry,
so
on
sheet
105
they
have
red
hatching
shown
around.
What's
going
to
be
the
storage
trailer
running
through
that
area
and
then
running
towards
hannah
lane,
which
is
grass
in
a
tree
presently,
so
are
you
actually
paving
through
that
area?
Removing
that
or.
G
K
Y
To
remove
the
tree
or
to
remove
a
grassy
area
around
the
tree,
I
think
that
whether
that
becomes
a
circle
or
you
know
or
whatever
that
becomes
you
know
I
do
want
to
keep
some
of
that
landscaping.
There
I
mean
the
tree
and
that
four
foot
wide
stretch
of
grass
there
are
on
my
property.
You
pointed
out
that
that
that
that
concrete
pad
adjacent
is
going
away.
That's
not
my
property.
T
With
regards
to
the
green
hatching
that
is
shown
on
the
parking
lot
on
the
italic
site,
that's
located
on
top
of
a
large
concrete
pad,
the
city
will
be
replacing
the
sewer
line
along
a
portion
of
hannah
lane.
As
part
of
that
deal
that
concrete
pad
is
being
removed.
I
believe
mr
clark
has
asked
for
additional
landscaping.
T
I'm
thinking
that
would
be
a
good
place
to
put
it
without
striping
that
out
and
having
an
excessively
large
entrance
way
and
providing
a
buffer
for
the
two
and
a
half
more
or
two
and
a
half
stalls
that
are
present
there
instead
of
a
vehicle.
Turning
around
that
tree
and
winding
up
head-on
with
one
of
the
other
parked
cars.
A
T
Yeah,
it's
it's!
It's
a
hatch
right.
D
Y
You
know
I
mean
I'm
spending
a
lot
of
money
on
my
neighbor's
property
and-
and
you
know,
I'm
gonna
screen
it
from
the
road
from
from
route
52.
I'm
agreeing
to
screen
the
visibility
of
this
parking
lot
from
the
public
and
now
we're
worried
about
what
it
looks
like
in
the
area
that
you
can't
see.
Y
AR
A
T
M
Save
the
city
some
money
and
have
the
city
put
some
soil
in
there.
A
A
T
A
Y
AI
AI
L
A
All
right,
great
anything
else.
T
N
We've
been
asking
for
a
long
time
and
the
applicant
has
agreed
in
principle
to
propose
landscaping
on
the
northern
end
of
the
property.
The
parking
lot,
so
that
the
view
from
52
would
not
look
at
this
large
parking
lot.
Yeah.
M
N
And
at
the
last
meeting,
the
board
requested
a
an
enclosure
around
the
dumpster.
That's
going
to
be
used
for
event,
refuse.
AB
M
No,
if,
if
you,
if
you
see
the
where
it
says
main
site
entrance
yeah
over
over
on
the
north
side
there
and
and
there's
an
existing
tree
but
we're
gonna
plant,
I
think
it's
four
evergreen
trees
in
that
area.
It
depends
how
how
yeah
holly's.
M
M
Y
Holly's
on
six
foot
centers
along
that
fence
line
for
the
for
that
parking
lot
property.
What.
E
M
D
T
A
And
I'm
sure
she
shared
her
observations
with.
I
think
yourself.
Y
Yes,
yes,
yes,
on
july
21st
I
was
forwarded.
Miss
caputo
ordered
me,
an
email
from
ms
gray's
office
telling
me
that
we
were
good
to
move
forward
with
the
agreement.
As
you
know,
and
then
sunday
night
was
told
that
it
wasn't
good
to
move
forward.
So
it's
we
could
have
been
working
on
this
for
the
last
couple
weeks
and
instead
we're
scrambling
now,
while
miss
gray
is
out
of
town,
so
we're
doing
our
best.
Q
Q
Y
A
That's
great,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
so,
yes,
those
need
to
be
a
part
of
the
final.
So
with
that
does
our
draft
reflect.
It
obviously
reflects
satisfaction.
Q
A
Q
D
A
City,
it
does
kind
of
take
it
out
of
the
review
of
the
board,
but
do
you
have
do
you
have
one?
Finally,
you
want
this
report.
Yeah.
N
They
they
always
send
it
to
us
for
final
review
to
make
sure
everything
is
yeah.
A
M
Yeah,
I
mean
just
to
let
you
know.
If
it's
those
two
points
I
mean
the
landscaping
is,
as
we
described
and
and
it'll
be
reflected
on
the
drawing
and
and
the
enclosure
will
be
there
and
it'll
match
the
that
horizontal
fence
detail
that
we
have
everywhere
else
so
that
that's
the
intent.
So
in
terms
of
your.
D
Y
So
that
would
you
know-
and
he
said
that
with
that
spacing
with
the
72
inch
planting-
that
within
three
to
five
years
it
would
flush
out
into
a
full
hedgerow
that
was
that
was
his
input
and
yeah.
He
knows
much
more
about
plants
than
I
do.
A
Y
B
I
had
a
question
about
the
resolution.
Are
we
that
are
we
there
yet
yeah.
B
The
resolution
doesn't
specify
a
maximum
event
participant
size,
there's
a
there's,
a
reference
to
the
100
person
limit
on
the
use
of
the
building
and
there's
a
comment
that
you
know
the
building
and
the
outdoor
space
will
only
be
used
for
you
know,
that's
the
word,
I'm
looking
for
you
know
for
the
same.
AK
B
A
Q
B
I
see
yeah
and
so
I'm
you
know,
I've
been
thinking
about
these
different
applications
with
event
spaces
and
in
terms
of
the
parity
and
consistency
approach
and
we've
been
getting
a
ton
of
questions
on
other
event,
uses
proposed
event
uses
about
what's
your
maximum
attendance
and
how
is
that
tied
into
your
parking
capacity,
and
how
will
you
administratively
control
that
is
it
going
to
be
through
ticket
sales?
Is
it
going
to
be
through
your
head
counting
and
there's
a
couple
different?
B
I
think,
even
at
the
yard
there's
a
couple
different
event
types
in
that
there
could
be
a
a
concert
or
a
dj
set.
That
might
be
the
sort
of
thing
that
you
could.
You
know
you
could
take
it.
You
get
a
populist,
they
arrive
and
they're
there
for
the
whole
event,
but
then
there's
also
things
like
maybe
the
halloween
event
where
people
may
be
flowing
in
and
out
of
it
over
a
longer
period.
A
You
have
do
you
have
an
ability
to
place
and
state
and
not
a
maximum
for
outdoor
events,
a
maximum
well.
Y
What
we
have
throughout
our
I
mean
throughout
our
narrative
and
application.
What
we
have
said
is
150
for
outdoor
events,
unless
we
rented
part
of
our
agreement
with
calyx
is
the
ability
to
rent
additional
parking
and
outdoor
space.
You
know
for
for
one-off
events,
and-
and
so
you
know
for
something
like,
for
example,
the
pride
event
that
we
hosted
this
past
year.
We
would
be
interested
in
make
going
bigger
next
year.
It
was
a
successful
event.
Y
There
was,
you
know,
good
attendance,
and
I-
and
it
was
the
first
time
it
had
happened
and
we
expect
that
it
would
grow,
and
so,
in
our
ideal
we
would
have
150
person
limit
for
our
standard
events,
but
every
once
in
a
while.
If
we
were
to
rent
additional
space
adjacent
to
our
property,
that
we
would
be
able
to
host
more
people
than
that
for
the
kind
of
community
events
that
warrant
that,
and
so,
where
you
know,
ongoing
rights
require
ongoing
responsibilities.
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
our
attendance
being
tethered
to
our
parking.
Y
B
Look
does
that
make
sense?
Well
so
does
that?
Do
we
then
need
like
a
permit,
though,
when
that
happens
like
because
it
opens
up
sort.
Q
Of
a
new
new
parameters,
if
it's
going
to
be,
if
we're
limiting
it
to
150
but
allowing
then
larger
events
over
150,
does
the
applicant
then
have
to
submit
proof
that
it
has?
You
know
validated
the
additional
parking
in
the
additional
space?
How
is
that
done?
That's
a
new
procedure,
that's
being
brought
up
by
you.
Y
A
Y
A
So
I'm
I'm
comfortable
with
what
the
resolution
here
states
as
far
as
the
sort
of
average,
but
then
also
comfortable
with
the
one-off
measures
and
controls
and
process
in
place
for
those
types
of
events.
So
therefore,
at
least
from
what
I
hear
there
is
a
process
in
place
for
both
one
has
controls
here
listed
and
the
other
is
a
per
event
where
those
controls
are
managed
through
the
single
permit
process.
Right
so.
Q
That,
okay,
so
if
the
board's,
if
the
board's
acceptable
but
we'll
have
to
come
up
with
some,
you
know
we'll
have
to
I'm
just
trying
to
a
get
an
understanding
of
what
that
language
should
be
exactly
so.
If
you're
going
to
adopt
the
resolution
tonight,
yeah.
A
It
would
be
something
akin
to
in
events
or
in
whatever
situations
where
applicant
is
seeking
a
larger
or
something.
A
Event
than
150,
the
understanding
is
that
it
was,
it
would
be.
That
would
be
managed
through
the
individual
per
event
permit
process.
Q
Q
Y
A
A
B
AA
AJ
J
Y
My
background
is
off
broadway
theater,
I
you
know
I've
been
audited
by,
like
all
the
fire
marshals,
I've
been
inspected
by
all
the
people.
You
know
this
is
fine.
A
Great
give
me
a
hoop
I'll
jump.
Thank
you.
So
I
will
accept
a
motion
to
adopt
with
the
language
as
amended
as
just
discussed.
Does
the
resolution.
B
B
J
A
Best
of
luck.
Thank
you.
Okay,
we're
gonna
move
to
our
next
item
on
the
agenda.
This
is
146
verplank
avenue
and.
X
Evening,
I'm
dan
cohen,
with
clemson
land
design,
I've
had
a
chance
to
review
the
draft
resolution
that
was
presented
and
we
have
no
objections
to
it
as
written
and
if
the
board
wishes
to
go
ahead
and
grant
that
final
approval
tonight,
we'd
be
appreciated.
Yeah.
A
I
think,
as
far
as
my
understanding,
we
have
everything
in
place,
engineer,
planner,
clear,
clear,
yeah
and
so
any
other
questions
or
comments
or
observations
by
board.
Otherwise,
I'll
accept
a
motion
to
adopt
motion
motion
by
karen.
G
A
Literally,
I
thought
we,
I
thought
we
had
one
last
month,
but
you're
number
one.
Thank
you.
Next
item
on
the
agenda
is
67
grove.
A
This
is
a
continued
review
of
an
application
for
subdivision
approval
to
lot
residential.
Let's
see
if
we
can
get
you
in
and
out
quicker.
I.
A
AO
Well,
good
for
the
record,
mr
chairman,
mike
bodender
fox
and
land
design,.
AO
And,
as
dan
said,
you
also
have
a
draft
resolution
for
your
consideration
tonight
and
we're
just
looking
forward
to
having
you
vote
on
that
great.
K
A
Great
have
a
good
evening,
let's
see
next
item
on
the
agenda.
This
is
we.
G
A
AR
J
L
I
think
john
would
approve
of
any
anthropomorphic.
X
Hi
good
evening
dan
kohler,
again
hudson
land
design
for
the
record.
The
parcel
is
located
at
the
northeast
corner
of
cross
and
maine.
That's
the
main
development
area.
We
have
a
little
over
24
000
square
feet
of
floor
area,
proposed
on
three
stories
where
the
first
floor
will
be
retail
with
some
common
area.
X
The
upper
floors
will
consist
of
nine,
affordable,
senior
and
nine
market
rate
rental
units,
and
the
building
will
have
a
green
roof
and
there'll
be
a
public
plaza
over
in
the
actually
in
the
southwest
corner,
which
is
right
at
the
intersection
just
mentioned
across
maine.
The
project
includes
off-site
parking.
That's
a
152
main
street
parcel
storm
water
management,
improvements
associated
with
the
improvements
over
at
152
and
also
at
the
two
cross
street
new
waters,
new
sanitary
sewer
services
and
lighting
and
landscaping
improvements.
So
that's
the
general
of
that.
AR
Your
support,
we
wouldn't
be
there
again
for
the
record.
My
name
is
austin
harris
and
I'm
with
joe
taran.
We
put
together
a
little
slide
presentation
just
to
highlight
some
of
the
changes
that
we
made
recently.
AR
We
recently
had
several
meetings
with
the
architectural
review
board
last
spring
and
just
wanted
to
highlight
some
of
the
changes
that
we
had
made
since
the
architectural
review
bought
in
last
spring.
The
first
thing
is
on
sheet
a6.
We
added
notes
about
the
stair
bulkhead
and
the
greenhouse
adjustment.
AR
Also
on
a6
we
called
out
the
the
different
materials
and
the
colors
and
oops
sorry,
and
so
that
was
included
in
the
package
that
was
shared
with
the
with
the
board,
and
I
we
hope
it
addressed
some
of
the
concerns
or
questions
she
had
about
the
materiality.
AR
We
showed
in
ground
planting
at
the
plaza
and
we
changed
the
planting
bed
across
along
cross
street
the
windows
we
added
some
windows
on
that
re-entered
corner
and
also
we
updated
the
brick
pattern
and
the
mullions
at
the
the
bay
windows
and
which
showed
the
fully
operable
storefront
at
the
plaza.
AR
AR
The
bricks
that
we're
using
are
a
running
bond
pattern,
the
same
type
of
bricks
that
are
used
on
the
the
street
decide
the
public
sidewalk
and
the
idea
there
is
to
make
it
seem
as
if
it's
a
public
realm,
and
that
is
part
of
the
public
environment.
AR
The
other
change
was
we
provided
some
updated
images
for
the
north
facade
of
the
building,
and
we
want
to
just
highlight
some
of
the
the
property,
the
fence
that
we
have
along
the
the
property
of
the
adjacent
residential
neighbor.
AR
So
here's
looking
down
looking
south
from
cross
street
showing
the
the
north
elevation
and
the
the
fence,
so
those
are
some
of
the
the
highlights
that
we've
done
so
far.
We
also
have
some
materials
that
we
brought
along
as
samples
or
for
consideration.
AR
So
we
can.
We
can
go
through
that
or
we
can
address
any
questions
you
the
board
may
have.
I
know
it's
a
late
evening.
Yeah.
A
AR
A
We
want
to
you,
know,
finalize
and
also
hear
back
from
the
review
board
members
just
on
where
you've
landed
and
also
review
the
material.
But
let's,
let's
hold
that
over
to
you
know
we
hear
from
our
consultants
on
some
of
the
other
potential
items
to
be
addressed.
I
know
landscaping
was
one
of
them,
john
right,
the
landscape,
landscape
area
and
then
hear
from
our
consultant
and
then
let's
talk
about
architectural
review,
okay.
N
Yeah
that
I
think
the
main
problem
I
had
was
that
there's
a
requirement
for
a
10
landscaped
area
in
this
district
and
you're
listed
as
5.8,
so
I
asked
for
next
time.
You
would
have
the
areas
that
you
count
as
landscaping
and
figure
out
how
you
can
get
additional
green
space
area
in
the
on
other
applications.
We
have
counted
the
plaza
area
if
it
has
significant
landscape
elements
in
it
you
know
a
single
tree.
N
Maybe
that
is
not
enough
to
make
that
happen,
but
so
you
have
to
come
up
with
10
or
ask
for
variance,
and
I
think
the
easier
way
to
do
that
would
be
to
to
provide
some
landscape
planters
in
the,
in
the
plaza.
Y
N
It
perimeter
to
it
so
that
you
can
count
that
and
also
it
seems
to
me
that
driveway
in
the
back
is
wider
than
it
needs
to
be
in
some
cases
in
some
areas
so
that
you
can
add
to
that
landscape
strip
in
the
back.
Maybe
that's
how
you
can
come
up
with
your
10.
N
A
N
Issues
some
of
the
in
the
lighting
plan,
some
of
the
fixtures
don't
match
the
requirements
in
the
code
for
the
color
rendering
index
and
the
full
cutoff
fixtures
just
make
sure
that
the
fixtures
match
the
requirements
in
in
the
lighting
section
of
the
code.
N
X
N
G
X
Obviously
we
took
over
part
of
the
plan
set
so
that
we
didn't
have
to
have
as
much
back
and
forth
between
us,
so
I
know
that
there
was
some
calculations
that
were
previously
presented
to
the
board
where
it
was
10.3
percent,
and
I
believe
that
included
the
the
plaza
as
well.
So
probably
a
mistake
by
on
my
part,
for
I
only
ended
up
counting
up
certain
parts,
so
they
they
corrected
me
on
that
on
how
that
was
calculated
before
so.
The
next
revision
will
have
that
different
calculation
on
it.
N
X
All
right
and-
and
we
can
consider
that
weird
drive,
we'll
take
a
look
at
that
as
well
yeah,
just
in
case.
AI
John,
can
I
ask
how
you
reach
the
threshold
to
because
we're
providing
public
access,
so
we
can
get
down
to
five
percent?
Is
there
a
yeah.
N
And
what
code
reads
is,
as
I
interpret
the
way,
the
code
reads
is
that
you
can
go
to
five
percent
landscaped
area
if
the
landscaped
area
is
accessible
to
the
public,
so
that
would
mean
that
the
plaza
has
to
be
five
percent
of
your
of
your
coverage
to
qualify
for
that.
So
it
has
to
be
a
much
more
significant
public
plaza
in
order
to
cut
that
down.
But
you
know
you
can't
count
the
land
back
in
the
corner
unless
you
meet
the
full
10,
that's
the
way
I
read
it
anyway.
X
And
with
regard
to
light
fixtures,
we've
actually
sent
it
out
to
a
lighting
manufacturer,
we've
told
them
all
the
parameters,
and
so
we'll
we'll
have
something
for
the
next
middle.
On
that.
X
N
N
N
AR
N
Don't
if
you
have
enough
green
space
on
the
property,
you
don't
need
to
count
the
plaza.
Then
you
can
make
it
as
hard
as
you
like,
but
if
you
need
it
to
calculate
that
10,
then
it
has
to
have
enough
of
a
green
space
element
that
we
can
call
it
a
landscaped
area
and
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
on
the
perimeter
it
has
to.
It
could
be
along
the
building
walls.
N
It
could
be,
you
know,
surrounding
the
tree
tree.
Well,
you
know
it
just
can't
be
completely
hard
and
and
have
it
classified
as
part
of
the
landscaped
area.
It.
AR
Well,
no,
but
but
the
other
challenge
is,
you
know
where
it
becomes
low
grass,
it
becomes
a
shortcut
yeah
and
you
know
I've
seen
it
a
lot
in
college
campuses
where
you
know
they
cut
corners
and
that
becomes
a
new
pathway
yeah.
So
it's
it's
a
delicate
challenge.
We
understand,
you
know,
we
understand
your
parameters
and
what
you're
requiring
requiring
from
us.
So
it's
up
to
us
to
sort
of
design,
something
that's.
T
So,
with
regards
to
the
retaining
walls
that
are
being
constructed
on
152
main,
they
above
right
up
to
the
city's
parking
lot
on
cross
street,
so
we're
asking
for
more
information
on
the
walls
and
the
biggest
question
is
installation
of
those
walls.
Is
it
going
to
require
easements
from
the
city
some
license
agreement
from
the
city?
How
are
they
being
installed
without
going
on
to
the
city's
property.
T
A
AR
So,
as
stated
before,
we're
going
to
have
a
green
roof,
but
also
it's
going
to
be
a
group
that
the
residents
can
often
can
use.
J
AR
E
N
E
H
A
T
A
A
A
A
AR
Well,
you
will.
A
I
ask
for
my
own
purposes
right
because
renderings
are
there
obviously
to
serve
a
purpose
and
you've
served
it
well?
But
those
of
us
who
know
that
you
can
take
creative
license
are
abundantly
curious,
okay,
so
architectural
review.
Would
you
do
you
want
to
give
just
a
quick
report
out
in
terms
of
yeah.
B
I
think
the
the
board
had
an
overall,
very
positive
reaction
to
the
details
and
the
articulation
in
the
roof.
But
I
remember
there
was
a
question
about
how
to
deal
with
potential
bird
nesting
and
whether
that
would
cause
any
damage
to
the
brick
face
if
it
was
allowed
to
happen,
so
we
were
asking
about
what
kind
of
measures
could
be
taken
to
prevent
that
without
the
nasty
looking
you
know,
tacky
strip.
You
know
the
pincushion
effect.
AR
G
Thing
is,
I
think,.
AR
What
we're
more
concerned
about
is
what
happens
above
the
bay
windows
and
again
it
was
just
we'll
just
have
to
put
for
now
we're
thinking.
It
was
just
going
to
be
the
bird
control
wires
that
we
we
put
over
there.
Okay,.
B
R
B
Yeah,
so
anyhow,
so
so
one
of
the
things
we
we
talked
about
potential.
I
think
we
had
a
discussion
about
changes
in
the
brick
material,
because
some
of
the
original
material
shown
was
turned
out
to
be
an
imported
insanely,
expensive.
AR
Right
so
we
brought
some
samples
of
that
to
to
to
discuss
with
the
team
and
examples
of
other
material
that
we're
thinking
about
using
on
the
the
building.
B
One
of
the
other
yeah,
so
maybe
we're
there
almost
there
in
that.
One
of
the
other
topics
we
had
was
about
the
area.
The
facade
over
the
plaza-
and
I
think,
there's
been
discussions
over
the
history
of
the
project
about
could
be
green
wall
could
be
curated
art
or
it
could
be
this
decorative
brick,
and
I
was
wondering
if
there's
been
any
more,
you
know
of
a
movement
in
any
particular
direction.
B
AR
I
hate
to
go
back
to
this
image,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we've
we've
talked
about.
One
of.
AO
AR
AR
About
was,
I
think,
we're
strongly
along
with
the
development
team.
We're
strongly
thinking
about
art
to
go
on
that
wall.
It
could
be
a
revolving
art
installation.
AR
I
think
the
the
one
of
the
concerns
was,
you
know
what
happens
when
you
don't
have
the
art,
and
then
we
thought
that
this
brick
pattern
that
we
have
will
create
some
very
interesting
shadows
on
that
wall,
and
so
and
and
then
you
know,
we
introduce
windows
on
that
wall,
also
kind
of
kind
of
breaks
down
that
that
that
big
facade
and
those
windows
are
actually
kitchen
windows.
So
it's
like
sort
of
a
nice
view
out
as
you're
at
your
your
kitchen.
So.
G
N
AR
Idea
here
is
is
to
have
something
that,
if
you,
if
you're
not
displaying
art,
that's
something
that's
sort
of
tactile
and
has
some.
A
AR
And
facade,
okay
and
one
of
the
things
I
mean
we
haven't
gotten
to
the
details,
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
we're
thinking
is
about.
You
know
having
losing
the
thoughtful
word,
I'm
going
to
say
pins
or
anchors.
AR
You
know
maybe
t-shaped
anchors,
where
you
can
put
guide
wires
around
and
so
that
you
know
they're
not
very
noticeable
when
you
don't
have
art
there
to
take
the
guide
wires
out,
and
so
the
anchor
state
remain
there.
But
then
we
have
artwork
there.
You,
you
put
your
guide
wires
up
and
then
you
can.
You
can
apply
the
art
on
that
wall.
Yeah.
A
I
mean
beacon,
has
a
history
of
there's
a
particular
artist,
still
around
applying
rather
large,
beautiful
murals,
actually.
Q
D
H
AR
Art,
so
I
think
you
know,
although
we
we
hope
you
know
it's
not
a
condition
of
the
site
plan
approval,
but
I
think
it's
something
that
we
really
want
to
include
in
sort
of
the
spirit
of
that
corner.
Yeah.
A
N
N
AH
A
L
Especially
if
it's
creative
right,
I
mean
because
the
committees
have
a
horrible
effect
on
creative
ideas
as
much
as
I
love
our
committee,
so
question.
B
AR
B
AR
You
know
like
we
were
looking
at
a
lot
of
the
finish.
Finish
finish
bond
brick
patterns,
and
you
know
you
can
go
over
the
top
with
them
or
you
can
sort
of
just
let
the
shadows
play
with
it.
So
we,
you
know
we
were
half
you
know,
half
a
dozen.
AR
AR
AR
AR
A
But
I
personally
like
the
pattern
I
like
the
texture
and
I
like
the
somewhat
regimented
nature
of
it,
because
it
it
comports
with
the
just
sort
of
what
I
would
consider,
I
don't
know,
lack
of
a
better
word.
Just
the
organization
of
the
of
the
remaining
you
know
elements
it
just.
It
works
the.
L
Yeah,
I
like
the
regular
pattern
because
it's
it's
sort
of
asking
for
something
and
it
and
it
doesn't
look
like
it's
an
abs
there's,
an
absence
of
there's
nothing.
There
wow.
L
Well,
but
also,
if
you
decide
to
not,
it
doesn't
look
like
you've
decided
to
abandon
a
good
idea.
It's
just,
then
it's
just
the
pattern
right
right,
but
if
you
start
utilizing
it
in
some
way
that
whatever
you
want
to
do
right
or
whatever
happens
organically,
I.
D
A
Q
L
What
the
answer
to
that
is:
I've
I've
been
involved
with
situations
where,
what's
the
difference
between
signage
and
artwork
right
and
there's
also
something
about
lettering
and
other
things.
I
think
that
have
to
do
with
signage
because
of
previous
things
that
have
happened.
I
think
that
you
would
then
there's
barbara
kruger
who's.
All
her
work
is
just
text
right,
so
is
that
a
sign
is
it
art
and,
and
I
think
we
need
to
somewhat
be
flexible
about.
A
And
then
we
can
talk
about
scheduling
of
public
hearing
so
as
far
as
materials,
what
do
you
have.
AR
So,
as
we
talked
about
before
with
the
review.
AR
P
AR
AI
G
AI
AR
AR
A
N
T
S
A
A
L
There
isn't
uniformity
and
one
of
the
problems
we've
had
in
the
new
buildings
in
main
street
is
that
there's
an
incredible
amount
of
uniformity
and
flatness
and
redness
in
the
new
buildings
in
the
thin
brick
that's
been
put
up,
and
also
in
the
dimensional
brick,
and
that
is
not
usual.
That's
abnormal
and
we
fill
so
many
of
those
buildings
with
a
very
banal.
Brick,
that's
even
toned,
there's
no
variation
in
it.
Before
we
were
more,
I
think,
had
more
sophisticated
designers
and
I
should
be
honest,
make
sure
aria
is
not
here.
A
AR
B
AR
AR
Right
so
they've
done
that
on
you
know,
they'll
split
with
smaller
bricks
and
they've
done
this
image.
I
was
showing
you
previously
in
the
upper
right
hand
corner
it's.
J
A
AI
B
Is
this
is
probably
one
of
the
first
buildings
that
we
have
looked
at
where
it
is
it's
meeting
the
standards
of
the
there
of
the
historic
district
in
terms
of
the
proportions
of
the
windows
and
the
I
mean
in
some
ways
this
some
of
the
elements
of
this
building.
Look
like
the
textbook
illustration
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
master
plans
for
a
you
know:
quote-unquote
modern
interpretation
of
the
of
the
of
the
relatively
broad
requirements
that
we
have
that
are
actually
enforceable
right.
Those.
N
N
But
yes,
I'm
not
saying
that
it's
incompatible,
I'm
just
wondering
about
the
color,
because
if
you
use
the
different
proportions
and
you
have
the
different
window
patterns,
maybe
having
the
similar
color
scheme,
might
there
is
a
provision
in
the
code
for
historic
districts
that
says
compatibility
does
not
imply
historic
reproduction,
but
new
architecture
she'll
also
not
impose
arbitrarily
imposed
contrasting
material
scales,
colors
or
design
features.
N
AR
AR
N
G
AR
B
AR
Yeah
we
have
material,
for
this
is
a
precast
ash
wash,
so
that
would
be.
L
And
complimentary,
as
you
probably
tell
us
more
about
her,
but
have
your
own
opinions,
there's
there's
a
more
of
a
subtle
range
there
right
and
the
textures
compatible
if
you're.
If,
as
as
at
building,
I
mean.
B
The
renderings
appear
that
there's
more
contrast
between
which
I
like,
although
this
is
definitely
quite
a
bit
darker.
A
G
AR
A
AR
A
AR
J
AR
Sort
of
keying
off
some
of
the
other
buildings
along
main
street,
but
we
don't
want
to
sort
of
match
the
reddish
orange
brick.
That's
there
yeah.
A
B
And
one
one
point
that
may
be
another
in
favor
of
that
is
that
warm
colors
in
that
west
end
of
the
main
street
at
sunset
and
all
those
building
facades
get
really
painted
by
the
sun
right
create
a
pretty
dramatic
effect.
So
that
may
also
be
an
argument
for
going
with
a
with
a
warmer
color
and
the
brick.
AR
Okay,
we
we
understand,
I
mean
not
to
sort
of
push
at
this
anymore,
but
again
this
we,
we
just
thought
this
was
sort
of
a
soft
color,
but
we
totally
understand
the
the
comments
and
yeah.
AR
AR
A
AR
So
the
storefronts
will
be
this
white
oak.
AN
B
Cool,
do
you
have
the
color
of
the
cladding
on
the
on
the
third
story
above
the
existing
structure,.
AR
Around
you
got
to
go
through
this,
oh
yeah
and
reinforcing
I
mean
initially
when
you
look
at
the
sunlight,
you
can
pick
up
some
of
that
color
of
the
metal.
But
again
we
don't
want
to
go
there,
but
I
totally
understand
all
right.
Sorry
bring
it
down.
AR
AR
AR
For
another
range
of
red
that
they're
getting
from
another.
A
Look,
I
think,
just
just
to
kind
of
this
is
all
very
nice.
This
has
possibility,
but
it
might
be
too
dark
for
the
rescue
right.
J
L
AR
L
L
A
I
don't
want
to.
I
don't
want
to
get
to
the
point
where
we're
spending
more
time
on
this
than
is
necessary
now,
because
we
do
have
the
time.
So
this
is
great.
We
know
where
architectural
review
lands
for
the
most
part
we're
down
to
the
brick
color
right.
So
I
think
that's
what
we
want
to
leave
the
conversation
where
we
want
to
leave
the
conversation
at
the
moment,
just
so
that
we
can
give
the
benefit
of
time
back
to
the
other
applicants
and
the
rest
of
us.
A
A
So
the
next
thing
we
can
do
for
you
is
talk
amongst
ourselves
and
eventually,
possibly
act
on
scheduling
a
public
hearing
for
you
right.
AR
I
guess:
is
it
possible
to
get
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
this.
A
N
A
So
so,
but
suffice
it
to
say
you
you
have
really
good
confidence
in
all
of
the
elements
of
the
architecture
as
reviewed
by
the
board
and
as
further
discussed
tonight.
The
only
thing
is
the
brick
color
at
this
point.
AR
AI
A
A
N
Yeah
we'll
see
what
the
public
says
when
we
have
the
public
hearing.
K
K
K
A
AR
L
A
Okay,
next
application
on
the
agenda
is
our
continued
review
of
an
application
for
site
plan
approval
artist,
studios
five
henry
street.
A
So
eric
just
real
quick
were
you
able
to
determine
as
far
as
the
secret.
L
Q
A
A
We
also
determined
that,
as
far
as
dave's
review,
the
parking
no
variance
is
required.
That's,
I
think,
no.
Q
Mr
chair,
why
don't
we
do
it
this
way,
if
we
determine
that
it
is
an
unlisted
action,
we'll
prepare
a
resolution
to
direct
us
to
prepare
a
resolution,
we'll
we'll
confirm
how
confirming
jennifer,
whether
or
not
we
believe
it's
a
type
2
or
a
unlisted.
If
it's
determined
that
it
is
unlisted,
you
can
direct
us
to
prepare
a
resolution
for
the
next
meeting.
How
about
we
proceed
that
way?
Fine.
B
AJ
AJ
AJ
I
believe,
on
the
new
the
site
panel
we
submitted
last
month,
we
made
some
changes
to
the
exterior
of
the
building.
We
have
some
trees
street
trees
proposed
on
chestnut
and
henry
street,
and
then
we
have
planters
above
ground
proposed
in
the
front
of
the
building
facing
henry
street.
AJ
We
also
did
a
preliminary
inflow
and
infiltration
study.
All
the
exterior
drains
drain
right
out.
Nothing
ties
in
there
are
the
two
interior
go
ahead
here.
AJ
There
are
the
two
interior
drains
that
we
will
have
to
do
die
tests
for
suggested
by
mr
russo,
as
well
as
the
exterior
catch
basin
steel
drain
area.
AJ
So
we
will
be
getting
those
done
for
you
guys
and
then
I
think,
to
the
site
plan.
Overall,
those
were
the
main
changes
made,
there's
just
some
cleanup
items
and
some
identification
things
we
have
to
do
for
like
the
stormwater
sewer
connections
that
we
need
to
find.
Oh
thank
you.
A
Okay,
all
right
great
john
clark,
just
as
far
as
your
latest
review.
N
Yeah
they
they
have
for
the
lighting
plan.
They
they
proposed
up
lighting
with
spot
floods,
and
we
don't
allow
those
in
the
city
we.
N
N
And
they
give
you
guidance
as
to
what's
necessary
thanks
for
putting
in
trees
but
the
trees.
We.
We
should
have
some
tree
well
information
to
make
sure
that
the
sidewalks
are
wide
enough,
that
you
still
have
five
foot
clearance
around
the
tree
well
and
two
of
the
trees
one's
all
located
on
the
hydrant
and
one's
too
close
to
a
utility
bowl.
So
they're
going
to
have
to
be
sort
of
switched
around
a
little
bit
so
that
you
have
adequate
clearance
between
the
building.
There's.
N
Also
a
utility
pole
right
on
the
corner
of
henry
and
chestnut
and
you're,
proposing
an
extended
planter
at
that
corner,
which
makes
it
almost
there's
no
sidewalk
left.
So
that
planter
is
going
to
have
to
be
adjusted
so
that
you
maintain
that
sort
of
five
foot
clearance
between
the
utility
pole
and
the
corner
of
the
building.
N
Now,
there's
a
sidewalk
clearance
between
the
utility
pole
and
the
building,
that's
about
five
feet
and
you're,
putting
a
planter
that
shoots
out
two
or
two
and
a
half
feet
there,
and
it
makes
it
you
know,
blocks
the
sidewalk
at
that
key
corner,
so
that
planter
is
going
to
have
to
be
moved,
east
or
west
or
south,
or
something
so
that
it's
not
obstructing
the
sidewalk
at
the
corner
between
the
utility
pole,
the
building.
N
N
N
J
N
N
The
sign
to
him,
when
the
time
when
the
site
plan
is
approved
and
then
you
can
he'll
determine
whether
it
needs
to
code
or
not
all.
J
Right,
that's
administrative
approval!
So
that's
under
this
separate.
A
Thanks
john,
with
your
board's
thoughts
on
arb
subcommittee
review
on
this.
A
A
A
N
A
So
motion
to
do
we
have
to
do
that
motion
to
refer
this
to
the
air
b
yep,
so.
H
D
H
A
Then
we
can
talk
about
scheduling
public
hearing
for
next
month.
E
Q
AI
Q
A
In
the
event
that
this
is
determined
to
pay
type,
two.
A
Yeah
then
motion
to
again
contingent
upon
it
being
such
a
motion
to
authorize
eric's
office
to
draft
neck
deck
motion
motion
by
karen.
J
B
J
A
A
AO
Good
evening,
good
evening
for
the
record,
mike
bodendorf,
hudson
land
design
for
the
applicant,
while
this
is
loading
up
I'll,
just
give
a
brief
overview
of
it's
probably
best
to
have
the
plan
up
here
to
go
through
it
well.
AO
AO
So
the
current
plan
provides
access
via
a
private
road
centralized
throughout
the
the
overall
parcel.
All
lots
now
gain
access
from
that
private
road,
so
there'll
be
only
one
curb
cut
within
highland
place.
The
lots
in
general.
The
lot
sizes
didn't
change
that
the
house
locations
really
didn't
change.
AO
We
will
be
changing
the
position
of
lot
three
house
to
accommodate
that
existing
36
inch
oak,
the
the
light
bulb
finally
went
off
in
my
head,
john.
I
see
how
I
can
fix
that
now.
I
I
didn't
realize
that
I
could
accommodate
that
before.
So
I
apologize.
AO
Yes,
it
is
it's
very
nice,
so
five
last
subdivision
one
existing
lot.
Three,
four
new
lots
all
accessing
off
a
proposed
private
road.
A
Okay,
so
yeah
great
work,
I
think,
combining
consolidating
making
sure
you
know
we
got
a
single
curb
cut
and
that
we
have
what
looks
to
be
a
cohesive
and
feasible
driveway
situation
back
there,
so
that
just
to
kind
of
highlight
some
of
our
just
more
for
the
board,
because
I'm
sure
you've
read
the
john's
comments.
N
The
one
thing
that
I
didn't
put
in
my
letter,
but
I
thought
about-
and
I
wanted
to
ask
john-
was
possible,
but
if
you
could
switch
to
water
line
locations
a
little
bit
one
way
or
another
in
in
that
in
that
easement,
could
you
put
a
couple
trees
along
the
private
drive,
so
you
have
a
tree
line
drive
coming
in
yeah.
A
J
T
T
They
are
in
the
process
of
developing
an
informal
infiltration
study
for
the
existing
structure
on
the
site.
We're
still
waiting
for
test
bits
with
regards
to
rock,
so
we
can
understand.
What's
going
on
inside,
are
they
going
to
have
basements?
Are
they
going
to
have
to
look
at
slabs
on
grade?
T
T
T
T
A
Thanks
thanks
john
did
we
I'm
sorry,
did
we
already
circulate
intent
to
act
as
leave.
I.
A
A
Yeah,
unless
we
can
keep
it
efficient
and
why
don't
we
do
or
talk
at
least
talk
about
doing
both
so
first
item
thoughts
on
scheduling,
secret
public
hearing
or
in
motion
motion
motion
by
karen
second
second
violin,
all
in
favor,
aye,
aye
and
any
thoughts
at
the
same
time
in
directing
eric's
office
to
draft
neg
day.
B
Do
we
do
we
need
to
consider
any
of
the
potential.
B
This
is
probably
too
small,
but
I
have
a
traffic
in
that
question
and
if
I
remember
correctly,
there
were
some
comments
from
residents
of
the
neighborhood
about
speed
of
traffic
being
relatively
rapid
on
grove
you're
coming
up
zooming
along
that
gabien
wall
and
you've
got
a
little
bit
of
a
because
of
the
way,
the
road
dips.
If
you're,
if
you're
coming
out
of
highland
turning
onto
grove,
you
have
some
some
limited
sight
distance
because
of
that
hill.
That
goes
down
towards
the
west,
and
I
think
we
had
some
comments
from
the
public
saying.
B
And
that's
what
I'm
saying
about
I
was
going
to
ask
the
question:
is
there
is
there
a
situation
where
we
could
ask
the
applicant
to
look
at
traffic
calming
measures
on
grove
if
we're
going
to
be
bringing
in
five
new
houses
on
highland,
we're
gonna
have
more
people
coming
out
of
highland
another
grove
and
you
have
a
condition.
Perhaps
where
there's
been
a
some
habitual,
you
know
quick
driving
up
that
hill.
T
T
We've
had
a
lot
of,
I
was
gonna,
say
part
of
it
would
be
law
enforcement.
B
D
B
I
spent
an
hour
in
shop
right
talking
about
you
know
the
one
over
by
by
you
know
on
off
of
52.
You
know
the
great
debate
over
whether
it's
better
to
enter
from
from.
G
A
G
N
A
A
A
AO
Know,
there's
really
no
reason
I
it
was
just
for
maneuverability
convenience,
but.
AO
T
H
AO
E
And
then
also,
if
we're
making
the
effort
to
save
trees
along
highland
place
on
lot
five
correct,
we
need
to
indicate
tree
protection
fencing
because
the
grating
looks
like
and
what's
that
footing
drain
looks
like
you're
in.
AO
Yep
I'll,
you
know,
I
think
I
missed
some
trees
that
that
were
saving,
I
might
have
said,
we're
eliminating
trees,
that
we
might
be
saving
too
so
I'll.
Take
a
harder
look
at
all
that
and
and
come
up
with
a
plan
that
you
know
a
tree
protection
plan
aside
from
everything
else,
yeah.
E
L
Would
a
driveway
accessing
this
many
units?
Would
it
need
to
accommodate
firefighting
equipment.
L
L
Was
just
looking
at
another
town's
fire
access
roads
and
they.
A
You'll
have
to
forgive
me:
it's
really
late.
Did
we
schedule
the
super
public
hearing?
You
did.
Oh
thank
god.
We.
AO
G
AD
A
E
A
AO
A
Yeah
sorry
281
rombad
avenue.
This
is
a
review
of
an
application.
This
is
new
on
the
agenda
for
special
use,
permit
insight,
plan
approval
plus.
Q
A
T
Applicants
wait.
They
make
noise
one
of
the
towns
that
I
used
to
present
in
town
of
fallsburg
up
in
sullivan
county.
They
used
to
have
this
problem
and
go
on
so
basically
they
put
into
effect
more
or
less
a
rule
that
if
you
weren't
up
by
11
o'clock,
you
got
pushed
to
the
next
yeah.
If
you
got
up
at
10,
59.
A
T
A
A
AK
For
the
record,
j.c
calderon,
calderon
architecture
and
design
presenting
for
a
client
marie
marianne
corsa,
281
rambot
avenue.
AK
So
the
the
application
is
for
to
convert
an
existing
permitted
utility
shed
from
2019,
which
doesn't
show
up
on
google
maps,
but
it
exists
and
it
doesn't
even
show
up
on
the
location
map
on
parcel
access.
But
that's
the
survey
which
does
show
up
on
the.
AK
So
basically,
the
the
you
see
there
and
the
location
doesn't
show
up
either
of
their
personal
access.
We,
we
have
updated
the
notes
as
requested
that
they
were
incorrect
and
we'll
we'll
update.
You
know
we'll
send
that
in
the
shed
is
going
to
be
converted
to
an
accessory
drilling
unit,
two
level
about
353
square
feet.
AK
Again
we're
not
changing
the
footprint.
All
the
change
will
be
inside
the
shed.
The
the
existing
shed
has
a
concrete
slab.
These
drawings
are
updated
from
what
you
know.
I
had
slightly
updated
from
what
we
had
submitted,
which
was
not
complete
but
basically
reflects
the
concrete
slab
and
again
the
change
in
the
inside.
The
upstairs
is
now
shaded
to
reflect
where
the
areas
are
being
taken
from,
because
it's
a
gamble:
roof
we're
not
counting
the
sides
below
five
feet.
AK
It's
permit
number
219.0245
if
you
need
to
look
it
up
with
the
billing
department,
so
we
are
what's
one
thing:
that's
different
or
unexpected
was
that
we
are
going
to
connect
to
the
sewer
line
on
rhombout
and
not
connect
to
the
existing
building.
The
water
line
will
connect
to
the
existing
house,
but
the
again
the
sewer
line
will
connect
and
we'll
modify
all
the
designations.
As
requested
in
john
russo's
letter.
AK
One
question
about
the
parking
john
clark
was
that
you
know
we
we
showed
rhombout
as
the
front
of
the
building
as
the
front
yard,
with
the
15
year,
setback
and
teller
as
the
side
there's
approximately
40
feet
from
the
garage
to
the
lot
line,
john,
that
we
could
show
the
two
9
by
18
spaces
would
be
36
feet,
so
you
would
have
like
if,
if
we
were
to
make
rhombo
the
side
yard
and
tell
her
the
front
yard,
we
would
have
a
one
foot
overlap.
AK
N
L
N
AK
AK
Right,
that's
probably
what
we're
going
to
do
it's
going
to
demolish
their
garden
in
which
they
have
right
here.
G
D
AK
John,
if
the
exterior,
if
the
existing
exterior
lighting,
is
there
and
sufficient,
but
if
that
doesn't
comply
with
the
section.
What
what?
How
does
that
work.
N
Know
100
watt
floodlight
here
you're,
probably
fine.
AK
N
Just
saying
that
the
the
bulb
will
be
under
16,
60
watt
or
whatever
normal
porsche
flights
are
exempt
from
that.
N
H
T
Comments
with
regards
to
the
notes
two
of
the
sheets
he's
correcting
those
we've
asked
for
additional
information
on
the
sewer
and
water,
how
it's
being
installed,
where
it's
being
connected
to
all
the
construction
details
related
to
that
also
separation
distances,
as
required
by
the
department
of
health
for
separation,
distances
between
two
utilities.
A
Great
thanks,
I
think
at
this
point
we
can
talk
about
play
sickness
on
the
calendar
for
next
month
for
public
hearing
any
thoughts,
motion
motion
by
lynn.
H
A
Thank
you
all
right.
Unless
anybody
has
any
other
business
I'll
accept
a
motion
to
adjourn,
we
don't
have
any
zoning
boards.