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From YouTube: Beacon Planning Board 12-13-22
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The City of Beacon Planning Board Meeting from December 13, 2022
D
B
E
B
There
we
go
okay,
all
right,
so
this
is
something
that
we
talk
about
at
almost
every
meeting:
a
State
Environmental,
Quality
review
act
or
C
craft
for
short
I'll
be
going
through.
Just
you
know
where
it
all
came
from
what
the
purpose
of
secret
is
and
I've
broken
down
the
whole
secret
process
into
seven
steps
that
we'll
be
going
through
tonight
with
the
25
or
so
minutes
that
we
have
available.
There's
a
lot
to
cover
so
I'm
going
to
start
buying
through
this.
B
Here
we
go
all
right.
So
what
is
secret?
It
started
in
1975
in
1975,
the
New
York
State
Legislature
adopted
article
8
of
the
New
York
State
Environmental
Conservation
law,
which
has
now
become
known
as
sequel.
A
year
later,
the
New
York
State
DC,
the
Department
of
Environmental
Conservation,
adopted
the
regulations
that
Implement
secrow
and
that's
at
6
nycrr
part
617..
Those
are
the
regulations
that
govern
our
secret
review,
offer
for
each
project
that
we
review
that's
subject
to
Secret.
B
If
you
look
at
the
Department
of
Environmental
conservations
website,
if
you
just
Google
secret
and
click
on
the
dec
website
that
comes
up,
it
is
a
literal,
Treasure
Trove
of
information
related
to
secret.
If
you're,
a
secret,
nerd
or
geek
like
I.
Am
these
yes
I
mean
you
could
spend
hours
reviewing
all
of
the
information
they
have.
They
have
flow
charts,
there's
a
secret
handbook
that
goes
through
sort
of
a
question
and
answer
style.
B
You
know
method
for
going
through
the
core
process,
explaining
what
each
step
means.
It's
it's
a
really
useful
website
and
has
a
lot
of
good
tools.
So
I
encourage
you
to
look
there,
but
basically,
what
secret
does
is.
It
requires
a
requirement
for
all
state
and
local
agencies
to
assess
the
environmental
effects
of
a
discretionary
action,
so
an
action
that
you
have
discretion
to
approve
or
deny
before
you
decide
to
improve
that
action.
That
is
unless
the
action
is
exempt
from
Secret,
which
we'll
talk
about
in
a
moment.
B
So
the
purpose
of
secret
is
really
to
identify
and
consider
environmental
impacts
of
an
action
to
determine
whether
those
actions
have
to
be
modified
to
avoid
or
mitigate
adverse
environmental
impacts.
So
it
really
is
it's
a
process
that
results
most
times
in
a
better
project
than
what's
initially
proposed
through
this
process
of
modifying
it
to
avoid
or
mitigate
adverse
environmental
impacts.
B
B
The
New
York
state
court
of
appeals,
the
highest
court
in
the
state,
has
also
said
that
the
agency
and
I'll
quote
here
need
not
investigate
every
conceivable
environmental
problem
it
may
within
reasonable
limits,
use
its
discretion
in
selecting
which
ones
are
relevant.
So
it's
really
meant
to
be,
and
you'll
see
this
in
the
secret
regulations.
If
you
read
through
them,
this
rule
of
Reason
quote-unquote,
rule
of
Reason
has
been
applied
in
secret
regulations
and
in
the
courts
to
the
secret
process.
B
So
how
do
we
comply
with
zikra?
Well,
there's
two
ways
that
there's
two
things
that
you're
going
to
want
to
look
at
when
you're,
considering
compliance
with
secret
one
procedural
and
the
second
substantive
procedural
is-
is
really
just
making
sure
you
are
strictly
complying
with
each
of
the
required
steps
in
secret.
B
The
secret
regulations
require
that
when
you
have
a
type
1
action,
so
those
are
the
actions
that
are
more
likely
to
to
result
in
a
significant
adverse
impact.
You
are
required
to
use
the
full
environmental
assessment
form.
You
can't
use
the
short
for
a
type
1
action.
If
a
short
environmental
assessment
form
is
used
for
a
type
1
action,
then
you
have
not
strictly
complied
with
secra
their
procedural
requirements
and
that
determination
can
be
overturned
by
the
court
if
challenged.
B
So
there's
a
lot
to
unpack
in
that
in
that
statement
part,
so
the
relevant
environmental
concerns
those
you
have
discretion
to
look
at
an
application
to
determine
what
are
the
relevant
environmental
issues
that
we
need
to
study
here.
You
may
have
an
application
that
does
involve
an
impact
to
a
wetland,
but
perhaps
it's
a
medical
negligible
impact
and
it's
not
really
a
concern,
but
maybe
that
that
application
does
pose.
B
B
This
instigate
that
particular
impact.
Did
you
review
an
expert
study
not
that
an
expert
study
has
to
be
submitted
for
every
application,
but
that
certainly
helps
to
demonstrate
the
board's
hard
look
at
the
impact
you
know.
Did
the
board
ask
questions
of
the
applicant?
Did
the
board
ask
questions
of
its
Consultants?
B
B
That's
attached
to
the
part
three
of
the
is
your
reasoned
elaboration:
that's
where
we
go
through
each
of
those
relevant
environmental
impacts
that
have
been
identified
for
the
application,
and
we
explain
here's
why
you
know
if
there
were
project
modifications
made
that
mitigated
you
know,
mitigated
traffic
impacts
or
mitigated
storm
water
impacts.
These
are
this
is
how
the
project
was
modified,
and
this
is
the
information
that
the
board
has
relied
upon
in
its
review
to
determine
that
there's,
no
significant
environmental
impact.
That's
going
to
result
from
the
project
that
is
your
reasonable
operation.
B
Now
this
all
go.
All
of
this
goes
to
the
importance
of
creating
a
good
record
for
your
review
of
an
application.
A
record
consists
of
everything,
that's
before
the
board
at
the
time
it
makes
its
decision,
so
that
could
include
all
of
the
information
from
the
applicant
all
public
comments,
whether
in
writing
or
verbal,
at
a
public
hearing
memos
from
your
Consultants
memos
from
staff,
for
example
your
building
inspector
testimony
at
public
meetings.
B
All
of
that
is
packaged
up
into
this
thing
called
the
record
and
when
a
court
is
reviewing
your
determination
and
one
challenge,
that's
the
only
thing
the
court
is
going
to
be
permitted
to
look
at.
It
cannot
review
information,
that's
outside
of
that
record.
So
that's
why
it's
so
important
to
make
sure
that
your
decision
is
documented
that
you
have.
You
know
what
we
call
a
rational
basis
in
the
record
that
you
can,
according
to
information
data
evidence
in
the
record
that
supports
your
decision,
because
that's
what
the
board
is
going
to.
B
B
This
comes
up
most
often
when
you're
talking
about
traffic,
and
you
can
have
a
professional
traffic
engineer,
submit
a
traffic
impact
study
that
demonstrates
that,
based
on
all
of
the
ite
standards
and
all
the
data
and
studies
that
that
have
been
applied
to
the
project
that,
for
example,
a
particular
intersection-
is
not
going
to
have
a
decline
in
its
level
of
service.
So
it's
not
going
to
have
a
significant
adverse
impact
on
that
particular
intersection.
B
So
the
best
way
for
the
board,
in
that
instance,
to
really
demonstrate
the
hard
look,
is
to
use
that
information
from
the
member
of
the
public
to
ask
the
applicants
consultant
and
ask
the
board's
Consultants
hey,
wait.
A
minute
was
this
information
that
the
the
member
of
the
public
just
brought
up
reviewed
as
part
of
this
traffic
impact
study?
What
is
your
response
to
that?
B
But,
at
the
end
of
the
day
the
court
is
going
to
say
that
the
board
is
bound
to
to
sort
of
listen
to
or
rely
upon,
the
expert
opinion
over
the
right
opinion,
and
this
is
a
very
frustrating
thing
for
for
many
boards
that
I
represent
throughout
the
region.
It's,
but
it's
it's
a
fact
that
that's
how
the
courts
are
going
to
look
at
that
evidence.
B
So
moving
on
to
the
basic
Frameworks
I
know
our
time
started
to
Lane
and
Mom
we're
going
to
go
through
seven
basic
steps
to
the
secret
process.
So
when
an
application
is
first
submitted,
the
first
thing
we're
going
to
do
is
we
classify
the
action?
So
they
look
at
the
environmental
assessment
form.
We
look
at
the
what's
being
proposed
and
we
determine
as
a
type
1
type
2
or
unlisted.
Usually
this
is
done
at
the
staff
level.
B
B
Unlisted
actions
are
literally
just
that
they're,
not
in
the
type
1
list,
they're,
not
in
the
type
2
list,
they're
unlisted
and
there's
no
presumption,
that's
carried
with
an
unlisted
action
that
it
will
or
will
not
result
in
a
significant
adverse
environmental
impact.
So
once
we
classify
our
action,
the
next
step
is
to
figure
out.
Okay,
well
who's,
going
to
be
responsible
for
reviewing
the
environmental
impacts
of
this
project
and
that's
the
lead
agency.
B
When
you
have
a
type
1
action,
you
are
required
to
designate
a
lead
Agency
for
unlisted.
You
can
do
an
uncoordinated
review,
which
basically
means
that
every
agency
that
has
any
kind
of
approval
authority
over
the
project
does
their
own
secret
review
of
the
whole
project,
not
just
the
area
within
their
jurisdiction,
but
the
whole
project.
So
usually,
we
coordinate
and
choose
a
lead
agency
and
that's
what
we
do
at
the
beginning
of
each
project,
where
the
board
makes
a
motion
to
authorize
circulation
of
notice
of
intimate.
B
So
what
the
board
is
saying
is
that
you
know
we
as
planning
board
of
the
city
of
Beacon.
We
want
to
be
the
lead
agency
to
review
the
environmental
impacts
of
this
project,
but
we
need
to
notify
all
of
the
other
potential
lead
agencies,
so
all
of
the
other
boards
and
agencies,
both
within
Beacon
and
outside
of
Beacon,
that
has
authority
over
the
projects
that
could
be
dot
DEC.
You
know
Dutchess
County,
Department
of
Health
Etc,
and
we
circulate
notice
to
each
of
those
agencies
that
hey
we're
raising
our
hands.
B
We
want
to
be
lead
agency
and
you
have
30
days
to
tell
us
that
that
you
object
and
that
you
would
rather
be
lead
agency
once
those
30
days
has
passed,
the
planning
board
can
become
the
lead
agent
step
three
determining
significance.
This
is
probably
the
most
important
step
of
the
secret
review.
This
is
when
you
issue
your
negative
declaration
or
positive
declaration,
and
the
question
you're
asking
yourselves
is:
will
the
application
result
in
one
or
more
significant
adverse
environmental
impacts?
The
answer
is
no.
B
B
You
know,
I
think
it's
important
a
couple
things
about
negative
declarations.
Many
times
an
application
is
modified
during
the
course
of
the
board's
review
such
that.
Perhaps
when
it
first
came
in
there,
there
may
be
one
or
more
significant
adverse
impacts
that
could
be
identified,
but
the
applicant
voluntarily
modifies
the
project
or
the
quote-unquote
proposed
action
such
that
there
no
longer
is
a
significant
adverse
environmental
impact.
B
So,
for
example,
a
project
could
have
you
know,
reduction
in
density
or
you
know
somehow
reduced
in
size
that
could
result
in
a
negative
declaration
in
civil
positive
declaration.
That's
more
often
than
not.
That's
what
we
see
that
there
are
project
modifications
that
occur
during
the
course
of
the
application
review
that
allows
for
the
negative
declaration.
B
One
kind
of
interesting
point
about
the
timing
for
a
negative
declaration,
which
I
always
find
interesting,
is
the
secret
Rags
do
have
a
time
frame
set
forth
for
when
an
egg
deck
could
be
issued
and
that's
20
days
after
establishing
lead
agency.
So
if
you
think
about
it,
you
establish
a
lead
agency
right
at
the
beginning
of
the
project,
so
20
days
after
that
is,
is
not
you
know
not
a
lot
of
time
to
review,
but
the
alternative
is
or
when
the
lead
agency
receives
all
information.
B
It
may
reasonably
need
to
make
the
determination
of
significance.
So
that's
more
often
than
not
the
triggering
mechanism
that
the
boards
use
20
days
after
it's
received
all
the
information
it
needs
to
make
its
determination.
There
was
a
course
up
to
the
course
a
core
of
a
case
from
2005
that
came
out
of
the
town
of
Marlboro,
where
the
planning
board
took
853
days
to
issue
an
egg
deck.
B
The
court
said:
that's
fine,
you
didn't
violate
Secret,
the
court
said
and
I'll
quote.
In
our
view,
the
planning
board,
as
the
lead
agency
painstakingly,
undertook
to
gather
substantial
data
regarding
the
application
holding
both
public
meetings
and
hearings
in
order
to
receive
and
consider
evidence
from
all
interested
parties
following
the
expiration
of
the
deadline
for
submissions,
the
board
issued
the
med
deck
at
its
next
regularly
scheduled
meeting.
Thus
we
conclude,
the
determination
was
not
untimely,
so
I
always
find
that
interested
in
853
days.
B
B
Typically,
that's
prepared
by
the
applicant
and
their
representatives
prior
to
Preparing
that
deas
or
draft
environmental
impact
statement.
You
have
to
go
through
a
scoping
process.
Scoping
used
to
be
voluntary,
used
to
be
optional
before
the
2019
secret
amendments.
Now
it's
required
and
basically
what
scoping
is.
Is
it's
the
process
of
creating
a
written
document
that
outlines
all
of
the
issues
that
are
going
to
be
studied
in
the
environmental
impact
statement?
The
purpose
is
really
to
narrow
the
scope
of
the
issues
that
are
going
to
be
studied.
So
you
don't
waste
time.
B
It's
really
supposed
to
focus
only
on
those
issues
that
are
potentially
significant
and
eliminate
consideration
of
impacts
that
are
irrelevant
or
insignificant,
so
there's
a
whole
process
for
scoping.
Typically,
the
applicant
will
submit
a
draft
scope
for
review.
The
lead
agency
then
circulates
that
scope
to
all
of
the
other
agencies
with
approval
Authority
called
involved
agencies,
solicits
public
comment.
B
Sometimes
there
many
times
there
are
changes
made
to
the
scoping
outline,
sometimes
there's
a
public
hearing
process,
but
there
should
at
least
be
some
method
of
written
public
comment
available
and
then,
if
the
lead
agency
has
not
approved
a
final
scoping
document
within
60
days
after
the
applicant
has
submitted
their
draft
scope
and
the
draft
becomes
the
final.
So
that's
important
that
the
lead
agency
act
swiftly
to
make
sure
that
any
revisions
that
need
to
be
made
can
be
made.
B
B
The
sort
of
the
Cornerstone
of
an
Eis
is
really
the
consideration
of
Alternatives
there's
a
section
of
the
Eis
where
a
number
of
you
know
Alternatives
the
proposed
action
need
to
be
considered.
One
of
those
that
has
to
be
considered
is
the
no
action
alternative.
So
what
will
be
the
impacts?
If
nothing
happened?
B
If
it's
complete,
then
the
lead
agency
will
deem
a
complete
and
schedule
a
public
hearing
on
that
draft
and
Family
Impact
statement
after
the
public
hearing.
The
next
step
is
the
preparation
of
the
final
environmental
impact
statement
now,
what's
unique
about
the
final
environmental
impact
statement,
is
that
it
will
respond
in
writing
to
every
question
raised
during
the
public
hearing
on
the
deis,
whether
that's
you
know,
testimony
from
the
public
at
a
public
hearing,
written
comments
from
outside
agencies.
Every
single
one
of
those
comments
and
questions
are
responded
to
in
writing
many
times.
B
B
The
finding
statement
basically
is
the
culmination
of
your
environmental
review.
It
provides
a
rationale
for
your
decision
and
certifies
that
the
alternative
that
is
selected,
whether
it's
the
initial
proposed
action
or
one
of
the
alternatives,
is
the
action
that
avoids
or
minimizes
the
adverse
environmental
impacts
to
the
maximum
extent
practical.
F
G
F
H
Good
evening,
members
of
the
board
for
the
record
Taylor
Palmer,
with
the
law
firm
of
Cuddy
Invader
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
I'm
joined,
as
always
with
Rea
Siegel,
the
architect
Rich
d'andrea,
our
traffic
consultant
from
Collier's
engineers
and
Mike
bodendorf
of
Hudson
Land
Design,
as
well
as
the
app
Gavin
Hecker.
As
the
acting
chair
mentioned,
we
are
before
you
for
the
continued
review
of
our
special
permit
site
plan
application
in
connection
with
the
hotel
and
accessory
spaces.
H
We
were
last
before
you
on
November
9th
for
the
continued
hearing
and
then
we,
as
we
discussed
the
applicants
for
their
efforts
to
minimize
and
eliminate
any
potentially
significant
adverse
environmental
impacts
for
the
project
which
we've
spent
refining
the
project
and
has
conveniently
discussed
with
your
Council
this
evening,
has
further
reduced
the
size
and
scope
and
scale
of
the
project
significantly
over
the
year-long
process.
We've
been
reviewing
it.
H
Since
our
last
meeting,
we
did
submit
a
formal
supplemental
submission
to
on
November
29th
that
included
responses
to
the
public,
as
well
as
the
board
and
its
Consultants
are
refined.
Management
plan
also
delineates
three
tiers
of
proposed
events
which
we've
previously
discussed,
but
we've
characterized
them
so
that
they
can
be
organized
into
specifics
with
hours
of
operation
associated
with
those
there's
type
A,
events
that
have
a
maximum
capacity
of
130
to
180.
H
So
those
are
the
larger
events,
there's
limited
capacity
events
which
are
type
B
events,
those
have
a
capacity
of
less
than
130
that
relates
to
the
operation
with
the
cap,
a
space
and
then
the
type
C
events
which
are
smaller
functions,
those
with
less
than
80
attendees.
So
each
of
these
Incorporated
a
number
of
other
proposed
conditions
or
limits
that
restrict
the
hours
of
operation,
the
days
of
operation,
the
cafe
service,
seating
arrangements
and,
of
course,
capacity.
H
So
each
of
those
was
designed
to
try
and
package
those
in
a
way
that
they
could
be
conditioned
to
an
approval.
We
also
included
several
new
parking
reports,
including
a
supplemental
parking
analysis,
event,
queuing
analysis
and
our
revised
traffic
and
management
plan.
Rich
will
discuss
those
momentarily.
They
confirm
that
there
is
sufficient
parking
available
in
Tompkins
lot.
The
municipal
lot
and
The
Beekman
lot
to
accommodate
the
anticipated
parking
demands
under
the
largest
project
event
categories
and,
of
course,
the
distances
to
those
locations.
H
We
also
included
updated
information
about
the
historic
reservation.
Excuse
me:
preservation,
restoration
efforts
in
the
abandoned
Cemetery,
which
is
based
on
our
Communications,
with
the
restoration
experts
recommended
by
the
beacon
historical
excuse
me
Beacon,
Historical
Society,
so
we
reached
out
to
try
and
find
out
what
would
be
the
appropriate
measures
to
incorporate
there.
H
Of
course,
that's
all
going
to
be
a
good
console
or
consort
with
Beacon
Historical
Society.
So
ra
will
also
touch
on
momentarily
some
of
the
updates
to
the
plans
which
include
privacy,
fencing
which
were
comments
on
the
public,
as
well
as
like
chaining
off
of
the
cemetery
Trail
after
hours,
while
our
landscape,
professional
Deborah
Adamson,
was
unable
to
join
us
tonight.
H
One
other
document
that
your
Council
may
be
able
to
also
highlight
too,
is
that
we've
Incorporated
a
draft
conditions
for
the
project
for
the
consideration
again.
Much
of
the
event
management
plan
is
designed
to
be
just
that,
but
we
decided
to
also
try
and
lay
out
potential
conditions
related
to
hours
of
operation,
a
number
of
events
and
Times
of
events
and,
of
course,
related
to
these
three
tiers
of
events
that
we
generally
discussed
previously.
So
first
I'll
turn
to
Rich
just
to
walk
through
some
of
the
traffic
details
that
were
incorporate.
I
I
Based
on
that
analysis,
which
was
provided
as
an
attachment
to
our
November
23rd
letter,
we
identified
that
the
sorry,
the
average
number
of
vehicles
in
the
queue
or
in
the
system
would
be
about
four
and
a
half
vehicles
based
on
a
60
second
per
vehicle.
Drop-Off
time
we
actually,
which
we
actually
think
to
be
fairly
conservative,
based
on
that,
we
had
identified
previously
that
we
have
about
six
to
seven
vehicles
of
Q
storage
length
from
the
drop-off
location
to
the
the
intersection
at
9d
at
the
driveway.
I
So
we
think
that
we
can
more
than
accommodate
the
the
queuing
demand.
The
other
thing
that
the
queuing
analysis
provides
for
us
is
the
probability
that
there
are
more
than
six
vehicles
in
the
queued
system.
What
that
analysis
shows
is
about
approximately
24
percent
possibility
probability
of
that
occurring.
If
that
was
to
occur.
I
The
the
traffic
and
parking
management
plan
goes
into
strategies
of
how
you
would
handle
that
that's
the
reason
for
having
a
parking
attendant
posted
at
the
intersection
with
9d
to
direct
that
traffic
to
then
move
into
a
more
of
a
two-lane
drop-off
operation
that
would
be
able
to
accommodate
that
additional
cueing
them
in
at
that
time.
So.
Based
on
that
analysis,
I
think
we
we've
shown
that
we
can
accommodate
the
anticipated
queuing.
I
I
We
added
some
discussion
of
how
employee
parking
would
be
handled
and
when
I
say
employees
I
mean
event
organizers,
whatever
staffer
events.
Things
like
that,
as
well
as
I
think,
based
on
a
comment
from
your
traffic
consultant,
how
we
would
handle
if
there
was
a
larger
vehicle
that
needed
to
be
parked
during
an
event
for
to
support
that
event.
That
was,
we
would
make
special
arrangements
to
have
that
parked
in
a
location,
that's
off
site
that
we
can
control.
That
would
not
hinder
the
on-site
operation
during
the
event.
J
Good
evening,
Rea
Siegel,
so
there's
a
few
minor
changes
to
the
fencing.
The
the
fence
in
the
front
yard,
on
the
north
side
of
the
property
is
four
feet
high
for
the
beacon
zoning
regulations,
and
then
it
becomes
six
feet
high.
After
that,
we
also
change
the
fence
on
the
north
side
of
the
cemetery.
So
it
now
it's
a
42
inch
high
fence
just
inside
the
existing
stone
wall
and
that
stone
wall
is
going
to
be
repaired
all
the
way
up
and
then
the
other
change
that
we
had
was.
H
K
Answered
the
question
about
the
beacon
lot
owned
by
the
church,
because
we've
previously
approved
that
from
multi-family
housing
they
haven't
done
it
yet,
but
where
does
that
stand?
Is
that
loss
still
available
I've
suggested
since
parking
is
so
precious
on
this
site?
They've
put
in
four
Ada
spaces?
So
even
if
all
the
hotel
guests
don't
need
an
ADA
spent
or
don't
qualify
for
they
can't
park
on
the
site,
so
I
suggested
there's
a
way.
K
That
the
strongest
comments
we've
heard
and
the
strongest
potential
disruptive
elements
is
for
late
night
hours,
so
I've
suggested
that
the
board
has
the
capability
to
restrict
ours
further
than
what
the
applicant
would
like
as
part
of
the
special
permit
conditions.
So
you
should
be
considering
that
I'll
report
that
the
the
sound
level
report
was
reviewed
by
the
board's
independent
planning
consultant
sound
consultant,
I.
Guess
it
is
that
letter
just
came
out
Sunday,
so
some
people
may
have
not
seen
it.
K
It
was
pretty
comprehensive,
there's
a
lot
of
questions
that
have
to
be
answered.
So
that's
in
the
applicant's
allowed
to
review
that
letter
and
come
back
with
com
with
Solutions
or
answers
to
those
questions,
I'm
still
suggesting
that
a
proposed
center
line,
striping
pattern
be
shown
on
the
site
plan.
We
know
that
dot
has
the
final,
since
it's
a
state,
road,
final
jurisdiction
and
approval
of
that.
K
H
I
K
G
L
L
I
apologize,
stormwater
maintenance
and
easement
agreement
still
needs
to
be
prepared
and
submitted.
They
did
prepare
a
swift.
They
have
modified
it.
It
does
comply
with
DEC
regulations
during
construction.
They
will
be
doing
further
investigations
to
see
if
they
can
actually
achieve
infiltration
out
there
for
storm
water
to
help
improve
this
system.
L
E
L
Through
the
site,
the
garbage
truck
maneuvering
plan
basically
showed
a
bluebird
bus
instead
of
an
actual
garbage
truck
and
then
the
box
truck
maneuvering
plan.
It
appears
from
the
tracking
that
you're
actually
clipping
your
landscaping
and
your
trees.
Okay,
the
Turning
movement,
so
that
needs
to
be
adjusted
and
looked
at
further,
economical.
L
F
M
M
N
Matt
Bloom
I
live
at
30,
Beekman
Street
The
View.
Thank
you.
The
board,
rather
than
repeat,
what's
already
been
said
and
submitted
in
writing.
I'd
like
to
point
out
some
of
the
more
specious
arguments
prophecy
theater
has
made
during
this
process
I
believe
they
not
only
highlight
prophecy
theater's
lack
of
consideration
for
the
community's
concerns.
They
also
demonstrate
its
lack
of
respect
for
the
community's
intelligence
and
sensibilities
number
one
they've
suggested
nearby
residents
have
no
legitimate
right
to
worry
about
any
noise
that
the
prophecy
Theater
events
would
make.
N
N
Anyone
living
in
its
vicinity
was
already
fully
aware
of
terrain
noise,
which
is
ambient
not
disruptive
as
the
types
emanating
from
prophecy
theater
would
likely
be
they've
inferred
those
we're
testing
the
project,
don't
truly
have
a
right
to
oppose
it,
because
most
of
us
are
relative
newcomers.
What
they're
trying
to
do
is
create
an
old
Beacon
versus
new
Beacon
Dynamic.
N
Reality
is
regardless
of
how
long
they've
existed.
The
View,
River,
Ridge,
the
West,
End,
lops
and
Hammond
Plaza
are
residential
buildings
which
are
entirely
appropriate
for
this
residential
neighborhood
and
happen
to
have
been
approved
by
this
very
board.
Additionally,
there
are
many
residents
of
nearby
streets.
Some
have
probably
lived
there
for
years,
who
have
also
expressed
opposition
to
this
project.
They
claim
the
parking
situation
for
property.
Theory
would
be
the
same
that
as
what
currently
exists
for
the
church,
which
doesn't
really
warrant
a
serious
response
in
their
last
version
of
their
proposal.
N
If
that's
how
they're
treating
us
now,
how
are
they
going
to
treat
us
if
their
project
is
approved?
The
board
had
to
commission
an
independent,
sound
study,
because
the
one
prophecy
theater
had
commissioned
amazingly
did
not
address
exterior
noise
only
noise
inside
the
venue.
The
findings
of
the
study,
as
you
know,
were
quite
damning
and
they
call
into
question
what
kind
of
neighbor
prophecy
theater
will
be.
If
you
permit
them
to
be
our
neighbor,
it
seems
our
concerns
are
not
so
speculative
or
unsupported
or
anecdotal
or
conclusory.
After
all.
N
Finally,
it's
worth
noting
that
seems
the
few
people
who
have
expressed
support
for
this
project.
Don't
live
close
enough
to
be
impacted
by
it
and
to
be
clear.
I
have
no
problem
with
anyone
making
a
living
as
long
as
it's
not
at
my
expense.
My
family's
expense
were
harmful
to
others.
I
very
much
appreciate
that
the
planning
board
has
been
following
their
procedures
and
treating
all
parties
involved
with
courtesy,
respect
and
fairness.
N
O
Hey
good
evening,
my
name
is
Toby.
Hicks
I
live
at
seven
River
Ridge
adjacent
to
the
proposed
site
on
both
a
resident
and
a
board
member,
but
my
views
and
points
would
be
the
same
in
either
situation.
I'd
like
to
speak
about
secret
intensity.
If
you
would
like
to
refer
to
the
numbers
or
tables
that
I
reference
there
in
the
document,
113
Wolcott,
River
ridge.pdf
in
the
appendix
so.
O
You
so
I
may
reference
the
appendix
in
113
Wolcott
River
Ridge,
if
you'd
like
to
see
it
later,
but
so
regarding
secret
intensity.
We
all
look
for
numbers
number
of
people,
hours
of
operation
number
of
cars.
If
you
think
about
intensity
as
number
of
people
times
hours
per
day
times
the
days
per
year.
You
can
look
at
this
project
as
200
times
365
times
the
full
day
that
is
75
000
per
year.
Dia
brings
in
65
000
to
Duchess
County
from
outside
of
Dutchess
County
and
an
incremental
35
000
inside
Dutchess
County.
O
This
is
almost
at
the
level
of
intensity
as
Dia
is,
but
in
a
small
neighborhood
area.
The
existing
church
has
approximately
50
people
in
attendance
at
its
congregation
52
weeks
a
year
and
sometimes
special
events
of
75
people
like
a
wedding
according
to
the
current
Congress
or
prior
congregation
members.
If
you
think
about
that
intensity
level,
it's
around
3
500,
if
you
multiply
those
numbers,
3
500,
compared
to
the
current
proposal
proposed
by
applicant
of
70
000,
is
a
20x
increase.
20X
is
a
huge
difference
within
a
small
community.
O
If
Beacon
was
20
times
larger,
it
would
be
the
second
largest
city
in
New
York
state,
larger
than
Buffalo
or
Rochester.
Imagine
that
level
of
change
within
a
local
community
is
definitely
violating
the
intensity.
Part
of
the
secret
questions
and
I
would
urge
you
to
issue
a
positive
mention
to
it
today.
O
Instead
of
allowing
it
through,
I
would
also
like
to
bring
up
a
local
comparison
that
Gavin
himself
did
not
reference
or
the
applicant
did
not
reference,
so
he's
referenced,
Saint
Rocco's
and
the
Elk
Lodge
both
of
those,
if
you
think
about
capacity
number
of
days
a
year
occupancy
time.
Those
are
about
14
of
his
proposal.
So
once
again,
his
proposal
is
huge
as
an
accessory
building.
Finally,
if
you
think
about
the
roundhouse,
The
Roundhouse
has
a
200
person
event
venue
capacity
with
40
rooms.
This
is
a
30-room
proposal
with
a
180
person
capacity.
O
The
roundhouses
ratio
is
six
to
one
sorry.
The
roundhouses
ratio
is
five
to
one
forty
rooms
to
200
people.
This
is
ratio
is
30
rooms
to
180
six
to
one,
so
this
is
higher
than
roundhouse
as
an
accessory
building
to
the
church
as
an
accessory
I
would
expect
the
intensity
to
be
lower,
so
perhaps
four
to
one
at
maximum
capacity
of
120
or
less
but
anyway.
Those
are
my
points.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
H
We
don't
respond
directly
to
questions
and
I'm
the
one
that
makes
fun
of
myself
most
before
you're
bored
about
how
I'm
not
good
at
math,
but
respectfully
the
math
that
was
just
provided
to
you
is
misleading.
Based
on
what
is
being
proposed.
The
applicant
is
not
proposing
maximum
of
100
to
180
persons
every
day
of
the
week
365
days
of
the
year.
Those
are
we're
limiting
those
events
to
weekends.
We
very
explicitly
detailed
a
plan
of
no
more
than
80
persons
again
to
accommodate
much
smaller
functions.
H
The
realities
of
this
site
are
that
Mondays
and
Tuesdays.
You
know
they're
there.
There
is
not
likely
to
be
many
events
at
all,
there's
only
to
be
smaller
events
and
or
Gatherings.
The
same
is
true
of
other
events,
which
we've
classified
as
type
B
and
type
c,
so
just
want
to
be
clear
that
the
hours
of
operation,
the
num,
the
number
of
events
that
we're
having
the
maximum
capacity
that
these
events
will
have
is
not
seven
days
a
week.
365.
H
F
F
P
Q
Q
For
so
many
reasons,
the
voices
of
the
residents
and
the
neighboring
communities
were
heard
here
too,
on
at
least
three
occasions.
Also
expressing
grave
concerns
about
prophecies,
utter
disregard
for
what
will
take
place
outside
the
church
before
and
after
events
being
held
there.
It
should
now
be
patent
to
this
board
that
we
reasonably
fear
that
when
we
stop
coming
because
you
will
feel
that
our
appearances
and
statements
will
fall
on
deaf
ears,
the
applicant
will
say
you
see
their
lack
of
Interest
shows
they
are
in
accord
with
our
proposal.
Q
Q
The
applicant's
projection
of
staffing
needs
a
singularly
disingenuous
at
best
I
provided
some
copies
of
the
relevant
pages
of
the
multi-employed
collective
bargaining
agreement
between
the
hotel,
trades
Council,
a
major
Union
in
New
York
and
the
small
hotels,
not
the
Hiltons,
the
Marriotts,
the
sheridans,
the
small
hotels
in
New
Jersey
and
the
outer
boroughs
to
be
fair
and
those
are
the
persons
in
those
classifications
who
are
unionized.
But
there
were
managers,
supervisors
and
security
guards
that
are
not
covered
by
the
by
the
collective
bargaining
agreement.
I
urge
you
to
peruse
these
documents.
Q
If
you
conclude,
as
we
have
that
the
applicant
has
knowingly
provided
this
board
with
inaccurate
representations
about
Staffing,
and
we
prefer
to
let
you
decide
whether
inaccuracy
is
a
kind
understatement,
then
in
any
event,
you
must
ask
yourselves
if
such
is
true
for
Hotel
Staffing
and
parking.
What
else
have
they
misrepresented?
That
deserves
a
pejorative
labor.
Q
At
the
first
public
hearing,
I
presented
the
board
with
copies
of
multiple
views
of
of
of
Bayville,
the
music
and
events
venue
in
Buffalo
New
York,
born
from
a
church
conversion
accomplished
by
the
musician
Annie
DeFranco
I
was
not
allowed
to
finish
my
presentation
because
of
time
constraints.
I
will
not
ask
you
to
open
those
pages
now,
but
hope
you
will
do
so
in
the
days
ahead.
Q
Indeed,
nothing
it
plans
to
do
on
Walcott
Avenue
can
even
pretend
to
come
to
any
fair
comparison
with
Bayville
some
lawyers,
drawing
on
a
now
cliche
metaphor
will
say
in
their
closing
statements
or
at
other
points
during
a
trial.
When
you
don't
have
the
facts,
you
plead
the
law
and
when
you
don't
have
the
law,
you
plead
the
facts.
When
you
have
neither
you
pound
the
table
well,
good
Mr
Palmer
is
too
sharp
of
a
lawyer.
He's
a
veteran
lawyer
to
pound
the
table.
Q
R
Q
In
response
to
statements
by
members
of
this
board
or
its
expert
challenging
so
many
aspects
of
applicants
proposal
regarding
the
number
of
attendees
parking
traffic
among
many
other
deficiencies
in
their
overall
plan.
Yet
when
returning
at
the
next
meeting,
there
was
palpable
lack
of
appreciation
or
at
most
cosmetic
ones,
and
in
my
opinion,
it
clearly
fails
to
manifest
respect
for
the
board
and
the
neighboring
communities.
Q
What
we
witness
is
a
constant
change
of
proposals
that
is
like
a
moving
Target
in
a
Midway
and
not
truly
grounded
in
response
to
your
stated
cautions
at
one
time
it
appeared
that
they
wanted
the
Sun
and
three
moons
so
that
giving
up
a
moon
or
two
they
could
say,
see
how
reasonable
we
are.
Now
they
want
that,
all
back
and
more,
even
if
they
claim
otherwise
just.
Q
F
R
R
L
R
Live
at
2,
Academy,
Street,
I've
come
and
spoken
a
couple
times
before
I'm
directly
across
the
street,
from
the
proposed
plan
of
Prophecy
I
actually
am
in
support
of
the
project.
I
do
see
it
as
something
that
can
be
positive
for
the
culture
and
the
community
of
Beacon
I.
Think
a
live
music
venue
in
so
many
ways
that
had
been
playing
and
talked
about
has
been
reduced
in
a
way
that
actually
makes
it
counter
to
what
it
was
supposed
to
be
in
the
first
place.
R
We
could
have
the
art
there,
but
in
order
to
make
it
work
viably
for
them
as
a
business,
they
have
to
compromise
on
that
side
of
it
and
make
it
work
so
that
they
have
to
have
more
of
the
wedding
venues
which
could
be
the
problem
of
things
of
the
noise
of
the
people
around
I
know
other
people
in
the
neighborhood
that
live
close
to
me
that
are
in
support
of
this
project.
I
know
at
my.
R
My
wife
has
done
similar
work
with
these
sort
of
projects
and
understands
that
their
meat
88
impact
that
the
community
that
lives
right
in
the
close
vicinity
have
concerns
about
it,
but
ultimately
that
these
things
can
be
good
things
for
the
community
and
help
bring
a
lot
of
culture
inside
of
it.
I
feel
like
it's
easier
for
sometimes
us
for
us
to
rally
and
organize
against
things,
and
that's
why
maybe
you're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
support
of
people
who
do
support
it
in
the
community
who
are
in
the
neighborhood
who
do
live
there?
R
Who
will
see
their
lives
affected
come
out
because
it
didn't
as
much
of
a
thing
to
Rally
against,
as
it
is
for
easy
for
humans
to
be
to
do
sometimes.
I
just
want
to.
You
know,
come
out
one
more
time
and
show
that
people
who
live
directly
in
inside
the
neighborhood
who
live
directly
across
do
support
it,
and
it's
not
just
a
singular
voice
against
it.
Thank.
T
O
G
O
Toby
Hicks
I
live
at
seven
River,
Ridge
adjacent
to
the
project,
so
I
referenced
a
200
person
per
day
number,
which
was
not
only
in
the
event
venue,
but
the
two
other
uses
the
cafe
and
the
hotel.
If
you
add
up
the
60
people
that
will
be
in
the
hotel
plus
the
50-ish
in
the
cafe
that
are
mentioned
in
the
proposal,
the
total
is
over
200
per
day,
excluding
staff
and
talent
of
20
plus.
Thank
you.
U
Hello,
Kimberly,
Rodriguez
and
I
am
at
12
River
Ridge
Court.
We
moved
to
the
area
about
four
years
ago,
and
now
we
live
at
River
Ridge,
Court
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up.
My
husband
is
the
fire
chief
over
at
Stewart
Air
Force
Base,
and
during
the
discussions
that
we've
had
about
this
space,
we
had
major
concerns
about
the
Staffing
at
the
hotel
and
the
lack
of
Staffing
overnight
and
the
cause
of
concern
for
safety
emergencies
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
they
have
changed
their
plans
on
that.
U
But
to
have
nobody
at
the
hotel
from
was
it
1am
to
7.
30
a.m
seems
like
a
major
concern
for
not
only
that
area
but
the
area's
adjacent
to
it.
If
there's
an
emergency,
a
fire
and
just
the
other
night,
we
all
went
out
of
power
and
I,
don't
know
what
they
would
do
at
the
hotel.
If
power
went
out
if
it's
more
of
a
Airbnb
ran
type
of
a
deal,
but
with
that
many
hotel
rooms,
that's
very
concerning
that's
it.
So
thank
you.
V
Sure
can
you
hear
me:
yeah
I
was
going
to
talk
solely
about
the
noise
rupted
yeah
today,
but
I
do
just
want
to
address
the
365
days
a
year
late
hour
operations
I
understand
that
the
applicant
is
saying
that
it
will
be
restricted.
I,
don't
really
see
how
it
will
be
restricted
if
it
has
the
potential
of
365
days
a
year.
I
looked
at
the
report:
it's
Friday,
Saturday,
holidays,
holiday,
Eaves
and
even
other
days
of
the
week
it's
still
10
30..
V
So
as
far
as
I
believe
our
our
community
is
concerned.
That's
way
too
late
for
us,
but
I
did
want
to
address
the
noise
consultancies
report,
which
we
haven't
really
discussed
tonight
and
I
hope
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
hear
more
discussion
on
that,
maybe
in
January,
but
we
feel
that
you
know
this
really
is
another.
We've
been
privy
to
another
example
of
profit,
prophecy,
theater's,
lack
of
care
and
due
diligence
in
preparing
their
proposal.
V
The
noise
consultancies
detailed,
independent,
sound
analysis
report
makes
clear
that
the
there
are
profoundly
challenging
issues
relating
to
sound
levels,
not
just
from
inside
the
event
space
but
more
importantly
outside,
and
what
this
is
doing.
Is
it
it's
clearly
demonstrating
just
how
inappropriate
this
proposal
is
for
this
residential
area?
V
For
the
record,
this
independent
report
confirms
many
of
our
deepest
concerns
that
prophecy
theater's
sound
level
report
chose
not
to
address.
We
appreciate
knowing
that
this
expert
analysis
provides
substance
to
our
so-called
speculative
and
anecdotal
concerns
that
were
referenced
in
in
The
applicant's
Proposal
last
month,
so
on
behalf
of
every
concerned,
resident
I
hope
that
the
noise
consultancies
report
and
feedback
validates
our
concerns
once
and
for
all,
and
that
a
decision
can
be
made
to
close
down
this
application
and
allow
the
residents
of
the
community
to
move
forward
and
live
in
peace.
F
V
W
F
E
X
F
X
X
I'll
use
it
probably
a
minute
just
saying:
happy
holidays,
but
I,
don't
know
how
I
stand
here
today
and
we
are
still
talking
about
the
same
issues.
The
applicant
has
said:
he's
not
a
concert
venue,
but
we
are
doing
concerts.
Applicants
said
no
events
will
be
taken
on
Mondays
or
Tuesdays,
and
now
he
has
events
on
Mondays
and
Tuesdays.
X
None
of
this
makes
sense
and
we
thought,
when
we
saw
the
private
acoustic
report,
that
it
clearly
demonstrated
The
public's
entire
thing,
but
we
will
continue
to
sit
here
and
do
what
we
have
to
do
it.
Just
he
doesn't
have
a
a
plan.
It
changes
every
day
and
is
the
I've
asked
for
a
proper
Hotel
plan
because
it's
not
to
code.
X
X
F
Y
My
name
is
Tom
Herring
I
live
in
the
neighborhood
for
River
Ridge
Court.
This
is
my
first
time
attending
one
of
these
meetings.
However,
I
have
been
following
you
closely.
I've
been
talking
reading
about
it,
I
even
watched
it
on
YouTube,
so
I'm
familiar
with
what
is
going
on
here,
the
tenor
and
what
everyone's
position
is.
Y
G
Y
I've
lived
in
the
area
for
about
11
years
now,
a
little
over
I'm
in
favor
of
economic
growth,
I'm
in
favor
of
culture,
diversity,
music,
I'm,
a
supporter
of
the
Arts
and
I've
seen
Beacon
Rise
From,
the
Ashes,
basically
like
20
25
years
ago
and
I
think
that's
a
credit
to
the
planning
board.
Either
people
who
are
sitting
here
today
or
your
predecessors
and
I
think
they've
done
and
you've
done
a.
R
Y
R
Y
A
city
that
was
low
down
and
brought
it
right
back
up
into
prosperity,
but
I
have
to
say
that
this
project
is
not
in
parallel
with
what
you
have
done.
Historically,
this
is
something
that
is
totally
different:
we're
taking
a
building
that
was
intended
to
be
in
the
neighborhood
to
support
the
neighborhood
one
or
two
days
a
week
during
the
day
and
we're
totally
changing
around
the
function
of
the
building
in
a
way
that
is
clearly
very
disturbing
to
the
immediate
neighborhood
and
people
in
the
area
it
just
doesn't
fit
now.
A
Thanks
Randall
I
had
a
number
of
questions
and
concerns.
I
just
have
been
able
to
take
a
brief
look
at
the
Acoustics
report,
but
some
of
the
comments
resonate
with
me
very
much
in
terms
of
concerns
about
noise
from
departing
guests.
Loadout
of
the
event
at
the
end
of
the
evening,
and
in
looking
back
at
the
Beacon
noise
ordinance.
A
My
reading
was
that
you
know
nine
P
after
9
pm
is
considered
nighttime
hours
and
there's
a
and
we
should
go
through
this
if
I,
if
I
misinterpreted
this,
but
in
the
noise
ordinance
there's
a
paragraph
or
two
on
commercial
facilities,
and
my
reading
of
that
was
something
to
the
effect
I
can
I
can
pull
it
up
if
I
need
to.
But
by
reading
to
that
was
something
the
effect
of
you
know.
Commercial
establishment
shall
not
produce
noise.
A
That
is
plainly
audible
within
a
residence,
a
nearby
residence
with
its
you
know,
doors
and
windows
closed,
and
that's
that's
a
not.
That
particular
was
not
a
specifically
like
a
DBA.
You
know
related
concern,
but
to
me
seemed
like
a
quality
of
life.
Concern
for
a
nearby
residents
and
and
I
would
be
very
interested
in
understanding
how
noise
level
from
you
know
the
departing
event.
A
Guests
is
going
to
be
controlled
if
it's
expected
to
occur
after
nine
o'clock
and
relevant
to
that
I
think
I
had
some
some
difficulty
kind
of
distilling
the
management
plan
into
an
easy
to
digest,
storyboard
of
how
an
event
was
going
to
be
conducted
and
what
the
time
frames
were
and
something
that,
if
you
want
to
just
pass
this
to
the
four
of
you
for
a
second,
there
should
be
maybe
three
or
four
copies
there.
If
you
pass
them
down,
is.
A
A
useful
thing,
but
what
I
tried
to
do
was
create
a
table
that
had
a
task
list
from
the
arrival
of
you
know:
musicians
like
the
event
load
in
through
the
point
at
which
the
cafe
operations
close
to
the
public,
because
you're
transitioning
over
to
an
event
through
the
arrival
of
the
parking
management
staff.
The
beginning.
A
Column
for
things
like
you
know,
just
the
ability
to
make
a
comment
about
how
different
noise,
ordinances
or
other
constraints
come
into
play
during
these
different
tasks
and
time
frames
and
I
want
to.
You
know,
like
I
said,
if
we,
if
we
agreed
that
this
was
going
to
be
useful,
I'd
like
to
see
the
information
in
the
management
plan.
Reconfigured
into
an
exhibit
like
this,
so
people
can
easily
digest
what's
happening
when
and
it
may
cause
us
to
be
able
to
more
easily
look
at.
F
A
nutshell:
thanks
for
taking
an
effort,
I
just
want
for
the
record
for
the
members
of
the
public
and
from
where
everyone
else
In
fairness
to
the
applicant.
We
definitely
have
to
understand
what
was
given
to
us
from
the
noise
Consultants,
all
right,
it's
new
to
everybody.
So
no
one
here
should
expect
that
this
board
has
had
the
ability
to
review
this
and
respond
it
to
nor
has
the
applicant.
So
in
all
fairness,
there
has
to
be
a
sense
of
balance.
H
And
to
their
to
the
acting
Chairman's
point,
we
will
be
providing
with
an
expert
response
to
those
comments,
so
we
will
be
submitting
that
to
you
all
for
consideration
and
then,
of
course,
presumably
some
type
of
rebuttal
or
otherwise,
from
the
console
we're
trying
to
make
sure
those
are
addressed.
So
we're
we're
not
not
addressing
those
comments.
We
work
to
address
them.
The.
G
H
Of
the
Seeker
and
public
hearing
process
is
to
identify
other
potential
turns
the
board
identified,
it
hired
a
consultant
and
it's
being
reviewed,
and
we
have
to
analyze
that
and
implement
it
into
our
project
to
ensure
it
does
mitigate
any
potential
impacts.
That's
that's
part
of
the
process.
Yeah,
absolutely
working.
Y
H
Just
by
while
you're
setting
the
micro
Mr
Warner's
comments,
we
are
we're,
certainly
looking
at
what
you've
provided
as
a
list
and
we're
also
going
to
be
we've.
We've
heard
the
comments
from
Mr
Clark
and
had
it
in
the
letter.
Of
course,
those
are
also
recent
for
today's
meeting,
which
get
put
into
the
supplemental
submission
will
be,
will
be
further
modifying
the
proposed
hours
because
it's
again
responsive
to
the
noise
ordinance
and
everything
else,
so
we're
getting
a
lot.
H
That's
coming
in
and
again
as
Jennifer
mentioned
during
the
secret
review
discussion
before
you
all
tonight,
part
of
the
process
and
Seeker
is
to
look
at
Alternatives.
So
what
we've
been
doing
is
effectively
showing
you
alternative
proposals
which,
in
our
mind,
is
reduced
development
proposals
and
we'll
be
further
reducing
the
hours
of
operation,
but
we'll
explain
that
in
a
minute
sorry,
this
camera
no.
Z
That's
fine.
Thank
you.
I
was
trying
you
know.
I
was
reviewing
the
cafe
management
plan
and
and
management
of
the
overall
site
and
trying
to
understand
the
in
the
capacity
site-wide
capacity
and
the
intensity
and
usage
with
all
of
the
various
Parts
together
so
which
I
had
to
piece.
You
know
it
wasn't
something
that
was
spelled
out,
but
as
far
as
I
can
tell
from
the
numbers
on
Wednesday
through
Sundays
holidays
holiday
Eaves,
there
is
180
between
the
event
and
the
cafe
total.
Z
There
are
22
staff
members
for
the
cafe
and
the
event
as
the
maximum
is
called
out.
I
don't
know
what
the
capacity
of
the
hotel
is,
but
I'm,
assuming
two
people
per
room
and
the
staff,
the
overnight
staff
with
one
person
is
another
61
and
then
10
additional
production
staff,
people
that
aren't
related
to
prophecy.
So
that
brings
us
to
273
people
Wednesdays
through
Sundays
holidays
and
and
then
Mondays
and
Tuesdays.
That
number
is
slightly
reduced
to
205.,
so
I,
just
that's
my
understanding.
Z
P
Z
E
Z
So
that's
a
concern
because
it
seems
to
be
a
primary
barrier
between
the
for
The
Neighbors
and
then
with
the
parking.
The
new
parking
assessment,
which
I
appreciate
the
update
I'm
concerned
about
the
Beekman
Street
assessment.
It
doesn't
seem
to
have
captured
day's
commuter
higher
commuter
days.
You
know
with
hybrid
work,
it
seems
most
people
are
commuting
midweek
if
they're
commuting
and
going
in
person
at
all.
Z
So
it
didn't
seem
to
be
that
that
was
covered
in
the
the
updated
assessments
and
I
still
I'm,
not
clear
how
the
traffic
is
going
to
be.
The
parking
traffic
is
going
to
be
controlled
to
you
know
the
places
where
you're,
ideally
wanting
people
to
go
as
opposed
to
you,
know
the
residential
side
streets,
which
are
closer,
a
closer
walk
and
that
you
know
the
temporary
signage
seems
to
be.
If
you're
having
you
know,
events
for
nights
or
four
days
of
the
week,
it's
not
really
temporary
signage.
Z
D
An
example,
and-
and
it
shows
the
complexity-
because
this
is
actually
just
one
portion
of
this-
is
a
A-Tech,
a
type,
a
event
right.
So
the
tables
like
this
that
would
extend
to
the
other
types
of
events
right,
it's
a
very
complicated
and
it's
a
complicated.
It's
a
complex
management
strategy
right
and
it
involves
it
would
require
a
lot
of
commitment
and
policing
and
other
things
in
order
to
mitigate
the
sound
and
noise
effects,
some
of
which
we
can
we'll
find
out
more
about.
A
The
outside
noise
impacts
that
are
referenced
in
the
in
the
most
recent
report,
I,
don't
know
how
you
control
those
other
than
timing,
because
it's
you
know
it's
it's
the
noise
of
the
departing
people,
it's,
whether
Vehicles
being
used
for
Loadout,
have
backup
alarms
any
you
know
all
these
items
and
like
I
said
I
haven't,
had
a
chance
to
go
through
in
detail
right,
but
those
things
can't
be
controlled.
The
way
that
you
can
control
the
inside
the
building
noise
with
you
know,
baffles
or
or
window
treatments
or.
D
D
That's
that's
really
the
the
essence
of
what
the
process
involves,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
one
of
the
things
I'm
concerned
about,
is
that
we
as
we
keep
the
the
actual
impacts,
the
the
real
effects
on
human
beings
that
are
there,
the
the
environmental
impacts
in
mind
and
not
get
caught
up
in
minutia
of
like
well,
we
changed.
You
know
we
did
this.
We
have
had
two
day.
Two
days
are
excluded
or
whatever,
but
is.
Is
that
still
going
to
hit?
D
Even
is
the
progress
that's
made
actually
going
to
reduce
the
impact
to
an
acceptable
level?
I
guess
that's
what
we're
gonna
have
to
find
out
we're
not
there
yet
there's
a
lot
more
information.
We
have
to
get
in
order
to
come
to
a
reasonable
conclusion
about
that
I'm
a
little
bit
amazed
at
how
complex
this
is,
and
also
how
the
application
has
strayed
from
the.
A
To
make
it
one
really
quick
comment
on
that
I,
you
know:
I
spoke
to
Jennifer
I
had
a
sidebar
with
Jennifer
at
one
of
the
recent
meetings
and
asked
about
that
accessory
use,
decision
and
I
think
I'll.
You
know
we
should
maybe
just
say
for
the
public
that,
as
far
as
what
Jennifer
told
me,
it
was
very
rigorously
done
and
it
was
documented
and
while
it
may,
you
know,
leave
some
members
scratching
their
heads
a
bit
as
far
as
the
laws,
the
and
Jennifer
said
that
they
also
looked
at.
B
D
F
C
Boy
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
the
concerns
expressed
by
my
fellow
board
members
and
have
a
few
other
little
little
things
to
to
bring
up,
but
the
my
major
concern
really
is
how
to
make
this
work,
which
I'm
sure
is
yours,
also
I,
like
the
idea
of
the
project
and
I.
Don't
think
I'm
going
to
be
saying
anything
new
here,
but
just
as
a
marker
of
where
I
am
with
it
anyway.
C
C
So
with
with
those
General
comments,
I'm
going
to
make
one
specific
comment
that,
based
on
repeated
personal
experience
and
that's
if
you're,
counting
on
people
parking
on
Beekman,
it's
just
not
going
to
happen
because
they
have
to
walk
up
the
equivalent
of
a
six
six
flights
of
stairs
to
get
up
there.
And
you
know
some
people
will
do
it,
but
it's
not
something
you
can
count
on
and
in
Winter
somebody's
going
to
have
to
like
ice
those
stairs.
F
There's
a
lot
more
to
be
done.
The
pain
we
feel
is
the
process.
All
right,
I
would
say
to
the
applicant.
Obviously,
you've
heard
from
the
public
you've
heard
respectfully
from
the
board
you've
gotten
the
report,
we're
going
to
leave
the
public
hearing
open
because
there's
a
lot
of
concerns
I
have
actually
after
reading.
That
really
would
like
to
see
how
you
would
address
those
unless
there's
something
else
around
the
board.
We'll
see
you
next
month,
as.
H
As
Mr
shifterman
had
said
previously,
I
won't
say
I
appreciate,
but
thank
you
for
your
comments.
We
are
listening.
It
is
being
put
into
this
project
and
I
can
tell
you
having
discussed
previously
coming
into
the
meeting
this
evening
after
hearing
Mr
Clark's
or
reviewing
Mr
Clark's
comments,
we
are
already
revising
and
updating
the
events
when
they
will
take
place.
H
The
number
the
hours
of
operation
we're
already
considering
that
the
reduction
of
the
weekend
events,
which
will
be
Friday
and
Saturday,
specifically
not
including
Sundays
or-
and
you
know
so,
while
the
public
may
say
that
we
are
not
being
responsive.
We
absolutely
are
it's
part
of
this
process
to
try
and
get
something
to
work
in
the
site.
It's
a
church
or
trying
to
adaptively
reuse
it
to
preserve
it
to
restore
it.
Those
are
all
what's
proposed
here.
H
See
me
able
to
only
use
it
one
day
a
week
is
not
really
an
effective
adaptive,
reuse
of
that
church,
space
or
the
space
itself.
So
we
hear
the
concerns
we're
going
to
address
the
noise
comments,
we're
going
to
put
it
into
the
matter,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
part
of
that
you
know
stay
tuned
messages.
H
The
hours
for
weekday
events,
Sunday
Monday,
Tuesday,
Wednesday
Thursday
are
going
to
be
reduced
to
9
p.m,
and
that
was
again
in
reviewing
the
noise
ordinance.
Looking
at
Mr
Clark's
comments,
so
those
events
would
end
at
9,
00,
PM,
again
not
up
to
180
people.
These
are
reduced
event,
side
of
scale,
they're
all
identified
in
our
tiering
system
and
and
maybe
tier
plus,
with
Mr
Morris
table
to
explain
how
those
things
function.
The
same
would
be
true
of
the
weekend.
H
Events
which
again
would
be
limited
to
Friday
and
Saturday,
not
Sundays
or
holiday,
Sundays
to
the
effect
of
10
pm
being
the
maximum
or
the
end
time.
For
those
events
for
two
days
of
the
week,
we're
talking
about
on
the
weekend.
So
we're
we're
hearing
it
we're
already
working
to
put
that
in
again
reflecting
two
of
the
the
noise
comments.
Yesterday
from
your
consultant,
we're
bringing
on
a
consultant
to
address
those
and
I
just
have
Gavin,
who
has
just
a
quick
pause
and
again,
we
appreciate
what
we're
doing.
Thank
you.
AA
This
the
some
of
the
concern,
comes
from
just
an
attempt
for
us
to
be
flexible
and
and
not
a
not
an
attempt
to
maximize
that.
But
that's
that's
just
I
guess
the
the
kind
of
shuffling
you
have
to
do
when
you
run
this.
This
kind
of
space
so
and
as
as
Taylor
mentioned,
we're
going
to
limit
that
more,
which
also
takes
down
our
flexibility,
but
which
was
what
we
were
trying
to
do
in
the
first
place.
So
I
think
that's
all
I
wanted
to
explain
about
that.
AA
It's
more
about
flexibility,
rather
than
maximizing
so
and
once
again,
I
wanted
to
thank
everybody
for
coming
here
and
we're
and
listening
to
us
and
and
and
taking
the
feedback
from
the
neighbors
and
from
from
us
and
and
I.
Think
that
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
here
is
something
that
all
of
Beacon
can
be
proud
of,
and
we
we
want
to
work
together
to
to
get
this
accomplished
and
something
that
everybody
can
accept
and
be
happy
with.
So
thanks
a
lot
and
have
a
good
evening.
Thank.
B
F
AB
AB
AB
John
Russo
had
a
few
very
detailed
comments
which
Mike
bodendorf
is
working
with
him
on,
but
most
importantly,
is
the
Dutchess
County
Department
of
Health.
So
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
we
had
a
meeting,
you
know
Mike
and
I,
with
their
senior
Administration
and
the
reviewing
engineer.
As
a
result
of
that,
we
made
another
submission
next
next
week
and
we're
collectively
shooting
for
a
mid
to
late
sign
off
from
the
health
department,
which
is
at
warp
speed
for
the
health
department,
so
yeah.
So
we
think
we
have
a.
AB
Yeah
and
I.
Think
Stark
had
a
question
that
he
wanted
some
input
from
the
board.
There's
a
no
left-hand
turn
southbound
sign
that
remains
from
when
we
had
the
split
left-hand
turn
at
our
entrance
way
and
going
into
the
settlement,
and
we
can
either
leave
that
now.
It's
a
continuous
double
left-hand
turn
I.
Think
Stark
wanted
some
direction
from
the
board
and
do
you
want
the
sign
there?
Do
you
want?
AB
G
AC
AC
The
left
turn
prohibition
at
that
driveway,
which
leads
to
me,
leads
me
to
assume
and
also
based
on
the
previous
responses
from
Colliers
that
left
turns
southbound
would
be
occurring
at
the
southerly
driveway
and
that
southerly
driveway,
both
of
those
driveways,
are
meant
to
act
as
one-way
driveway.
So
one
is
kind
of
an
egress
driveway
and.
H
AC
AC
You
know
how
vehicles
are
going
to
be
turning
South
but
left
to
southbound
I.
Think
the
two-way
left
turn
lane
design
that
we
propose-
and
you
guys
have
Incorporated
will
allow
for
the
left
turns
to
occur
at
that
Northerly
driveway
I
wanted
to
see
if
Colliers
had
another
reason
why
they
were
doing
it.
If
it's
just
hang
over
from
the
previous
concept
and
I
think
that
addresses
the
concern,
but.
G
P
AC
I
I
can
just
for
sure
that
was
a
carryover
from
the
prior
prior
concept
plan,
where
we
had
two
separate
left
turn
Lanes
one
for
southbound
traffic
going
into
the
park
and
one
for
Northbound
traffic
into
the
site.
That
was
where
that
no
left
turn.
Prohibition
came
from
at
that
Northern
that
Northern
settlement
Park
driveway,
so
with
the
double
the
two-way
left
turn
lane.
I
do
agree
that
I
think
that
left
turns
could
be
accommodated,
that
that
that
Northern
driveway
location
and
we
could
probably
remove
that
left,
turn
restriction
beside
your
problem,
sir.
AB
Probably
fixed
okay,
that's
all
we
really
had,
but
you
know
we
appreciate
all
your
time.
We've
been
at
this
for
eight
months
and
I
know
your
professionals
have
been
very
responsive.
You
know
to
our
questions
and
our
resubmissions
and
I
think
in
the
last
meeting
we
left
requesting
that
you
adopt
the
resolution
for
site
plan,
approval
and
special
use
permit
and
the
subdivision.
So
it's
really.
L
G
B
You
do
have
a
draft
resolution
that
was
circulated
to
the
board
and
to
the
applicant
and
posted
online.
There
have
been
a
couple
of
minor
revisions
made
over
the
course
of
the
day
as
I've
been
receiving
comments
from
from
your
Consultants
and
board
members.
But
you
do
have
a
draft
resolution
in
front
of
you.
That
is,
is
ready
for
you
to
act
upon
with
respect
to
subdivision
special
permit
and
site
plan
approval,
as
long
as
well
as
certificate
of
appropriateness.
D
AB
A
A
question
for
Jennifer:
was
there
anything
I
sent
you
one
comment
that
was
really
just
kind
of
a
naive
question
about
the
language
regarding
the
six
and
a
half
acre
parcel
and
the
wording
that
was
you
know
this
may
be
developed
into
additional
Cottages.
Is
there
any?
Are
there
any
specific
things
we
have
to
be
concerned
about
in
terms
of
just
how
that's
worded,
whether
what
we
anticipate
or
what
may
happen
or
right.
B
So
this
project
is
being
developed
in
phases
right
we're
reviewing
the
phase
one.
Now
the
resolution
is
with
respect
to
phase
one,
but
for
secret
purposes.
It
was
important
for
us
to
review
all
the
phases
both
phase
one
and
phase
two.
So
your
negative
declaration
that
you
issued
back
in
October
does
analyze
at
least
conceptually
the
impacts
of
phase
two
in
conjunction
with
phase
one,
and
all
of
that
is
recited
in
your
negative
declaration.
So
at
this
point
you
are
approving
phase
one
phase
two,
we
don't
know
when
that's
going
to
happen.
B
If
it's
going
to
happen,
if
and
when
it
does
come
forward,
it
will
be
subject
to
review
by
this
board,
pursue
it
to
whatever
zoning
laws
are
in
effect
at
that
time,
and
that
the
secret
analysis
will
apply
at
that
time
as
well.
So
I
did
in
response
to
your
comment.
Len
I
did
add
aware,
as
Clause
to
page
two
of
the
resolution
that
speaks
to
all
of
that.
K
O
D
P
AB
F
E
H
As
the
acting
chairman
said,
we
are
before
you
this
evening
in
connection
with
the
continued
review
of
the
subdivision.
Lot.
Merger
plan
and
site
plan
approval
that's
proposing
to
redevelop
the
property
for
a
three-story,
mixed-use
commercial,
multi-family,
Residential
Building,
some,
although
they
aren't
with
us
this
evening.
Mr
Gunn
have
referred
to
this
as
the
postage
stamp
of
Beacon.
Now
again,
Rea
is
still
gleaming
based
on
that
characterization,
but
the
design
of
this
was
intended
to
reflect
a
lot
of.
H
H
That
process
is
undergoing
or
ongoing
because
it
was
not
circulated,
timely
or
not
timely.
It's
it's
not
circulated
in
time
for
the
board
to
make
it
a
determination
as
to
lead
agency
this
evening,
so
likely
would
be
in
position
for
that.
In
January,
we
did
submit
a
updated
as
the
board
requested
full
environmental
assessment
board.
This
is
an
unlisted
action.
It's
not
a
type
one
action,
unlisted
action,
but
we
did
still
submit
a
fully
AF,
which
was
also
circulated
on
November
18th
with
the
rest
of
the
materials
in
accordance
with
zika
Seeker.
H
As
detailed
in
our
November
29th
letter,
we
did
revise
or
provide
the
revised
site
plans
and
project
refinements,
so
that
included
some
reconfiguration
of
the
rear
parking
to
account
for
a
refuse
container
in
that
location.
That
maintains
the
parking
spaces
that
we
know,
which
is
34
off
street
parking
spaces,
which
is
the
requirement
for
the
proposed
development,
adding
a
snow
storage
area,
we've
Incorporated
catch
basins
to
and
pipes
to
discharge
the
existing
system
from
the
premises,
and
then
we
relocated
some
proposed
benches.
H
H
We
are
also
going
to
be
coordinating
a
site
visit,
as
Mr
Russo
has
mentioned,
to
locate
all
water
sewer
and
gas
connections
for
the
existing
buildings,
and
then
we
will
also
be
submitting
an
ionai
studying
report
for
the
stormwater
analysis
and
Subdivision
plat
for
the
lot
merger,
as
I
mentioned
previously,
Ms
adamson's
is
preparing
a
landscape
plan
and
a
lot
and
we'll
be
also
coordinating
a
lighting
plan.
I
know
that
was
something
that
also
came
up
in
the
comments.
H
So
at
this
time
there
was
another
comment
that
Mr
Clark
I
know:
he'll
mentioned
them
in
his
comments
this
evening.
That
was
a
very
interesting
quirk
in
the
code
we're
a
unique
zoning
District
apparently
in
the
the
GB.
It
deals
with
an
odd
setback
requirement,
so
we
will
be
adjusting
the
building
five
feet
as
it
relates
to
a
front
yard
setback
and
a
side
yard.
In
this
instance,
the
front
yard
setback
is
actually
less
than
the
side
yard
setback
requirement.
H
So
it's
the
only
one
in
the
city
so
we'll
you
know
we'll
adjust
the
plan
and
we'll
we'll
take
it
from
there.
Those
will
be
minor
changes.
We
anticipate
based
on
initial
workup
from
those
comments
that
that
it
won't
change
the
parking
or
it
may
reduce
the
building
size
and
limited
components,
but
won't
create
any
other
triggers
or
variances,
but
that
will
be
in
in
our
supplemental
submission.
A
G
K
So
well
that
was
before
my
time
so
anyway,
it's
it's
interesting
that
the
the
zoning
changes
that
were
put
in
place
when
the
tables
were
done
encouraged,
multiple
uses
on
GB
properties
rather
than
just
strip
development,
sort
of
type
uses,
and
this
is
the
first
instance
in
which
somebody's
come
in
and
said.
Okay,
we're
gonna,
do
something
different
on
Route
52,
which
I
think
is
interesting.
K
There
is
that
quirk
in
the
code
in
which,
in
most
other
districts
you,
if
you're
on
a
corner
lot,
you
get
two
front
yards
in
the
GB.
District
doesn't
have
that
provision,
and
so
they
have
to
designate
one
as
a
side
yard
and
again
it's
interesting
that
for
some
reason
the
side
yard
is
bigger
than
the
front
yard.
So
this
building
will
have
to
be
pushed
back
from
probably.
E
K
By
five
feet,
which
squeezes
the
building
a
bit
but
to
be
compliant,
that
has
to
happen
the
building
inspector
looked
at
it
and
enrolled
in
what
I
suspected
that
they
have
to
have
one
side.
One
front
yard
instead
of
two
there's
just
there's.
Obviously
some
big
things:
the
subdivision,
Platinum
Landscaping,
the
lighting.
Those
things
have
to
be
completed.
Elevations
for
the
buildings.
K
I
also
suggested
that
they
should
look
at
fencing
because
it
is
adjacent
to
Residential
Properties,
not
real,
close
to
a
Jason
residential
but
still
I,
think
parking.
Lots
should
be
fenced
from
Residential,
Properties
and
I
suggested
a
shift
in
the
southernmost
parking
space
which
didn't
look
like
it
was
feasible
to
back
out
of.
F
L
I
would
like
to
get
the
plans
coordinated
between
the
architect
and
the
engineer.
The
engineer
is
showing
one
thing:
the
architect
is
showing
the
something
completely
different.
Also
within
the
building
itself
first
floor,
you
know.
Typically,
there
would
be
a
mechanical
room.
It's
more
than
likely.
You
need
a
sprinkler
system
for
that
building,
so
you
can
have
a
fire
sprinkler
assembly
in
there
backflow
prevention,
everything
I
didn't
see
you
place
for.
L
The
building
I
have
a
number
of
cleanup
comments
and
other
revisions
that
need
to
do
be
done
with
the
plans,
but
the
other
concern
I
had
was
with
regards
to
the
retaining
wall.
I
know
it
stated
that
that
wall
could
be
eight
feet.
High
I
think
we
need
to
know
what
type
of
wall
is
being
used.
The
concern
would
be
you
know
if
there's
geogrid,
that
needs
to
be
installed
within
this
wall
system.
How
far
back
is
it
going
to
go?
L
H
And-
and
we,
and
by
the
way
before
we
had
Mr
Clark's
comment
about
the
building
adjustment,
we
had
come
up
with
and
finalized
our
stormwater
management
and
Grading,
and
all
that
have
been
packaged.
So
we
were
right
there
and
then
we
got
a.
We
got
a
surprise
thanks
to
being
the
unique
zoning
District
in
the
city,
so
we're
we're
adjusting
that.
But
all
those
are
going
to
be
incorporated.
This
supplemental
submission
will
really
dial
down
everything
so
that,
hopefully
we
can
get
to
various.
E
D
On
Conklin
doesn't
line
up
with
other
buildings
or
other
things.
You
might
look
at
the
zoning
appeals
board
if
it
makes
sense,
the
automatic
question
was
I'm
just
from
the
quick
glance
at
the
site.
I've
realized
that
there's
Stone
there's
ledge
right
there.
It's
basically
looks
it
appears
to
be
rock,
at
least
in
the
parking.
E
D
L
G
H
F
H
H
H
G
C
G
A
L
H
F
H
F
AD
90
days
is
going
to
be
a
start.
We
have
We've
submitted
to
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
that
application
is
in
process.
I.
Think
the
board
has
received
some
correspondence
from
DEC
in
response
to
the
joint
application
that
was
filed.
We
are
pursuing
the
other
conditions
of
approval
in
parallel
with
the
Army
Corps.
It
is
the
applicant's
intention
to
start
construction
shortly
after
the
conditions
are
met
in
2023,
but
we're
at
the
mercy
of
the
schedule
in
terms
of
our
response
from.