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From YouTube: Beacon Planning Board 3-28-23
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The City of Beacon Planning Board Meeting from March 28, 2023
A
B
So
tonight
we're
covering
special
use
permits,
which
is
one
of
the
items
within
your
jurisdiction,
along
with
site
plan
and
subdivision
certificates
of
appropriateness
and
and
Architectural
Review,
so
special
use
permits
are
just
one
of
the
land
use
approvals
that
are
within
your
jurisdiction.
We're
going
to
talk
about
what
it
is,
what
it's
not
the
procedure
and
I
have
some
case
law
examples
as
well,
so
as
I
just
mentioned
and
I've
got
the
PowerPoint
presentation
up
on
both
screens.
B
If
you
want
to
follow
along,
so
a
special
use
permit
we're
going
to
cover
what
it
is.
The
procedures
for
reviewing
a
special
use
permit
what
happens
when
someone
needs
a
variance
from
a
special
use
permit
standard
and
what
to
be
considering
in
your
final
determinations,
both
reasonable
conditions
of
the
special
permit
and
the
concept
of
substantial
evidence.
B
So
what
is
a
special
use?
Permit?
A
special
use
permit
is
refers
to
a
particular
type
of
use
that
is
allowed
in
the
zoning
District
subject
to
compliance
with
certain
standards.
So
it
is
in
your
schedule
of
of
use.
Regulations
listed
as
a
particular
manner
in
which
a
particular
use
is
is
authorized,
but
it
does
come
with
at
certain
standards.
B
So
it's
not
a
use
that
the
city
council
has
determined
can
just
be
permitted
as
of
right,
maybe
just
subject
to
site
plan
approval
or
a
building
permit
it's
something
that
it's
permitted
as
long
as
it
meets
several
conditions,
and
it's
up
to
the
planning
board
to
review
those
conditions
to
make
sure
that
the
use
complies
and
if
so
the
permit
is
granted.
Importantly,
it's
not
a
variance
a
lot
of
times,
people
think
special
permit
and
they
think
that
they
equate
it
with
a
variance
a
lot
of
times.
B
Those
two
terms
are
used
interchangeably,
but
they
are
they're
very
different,
so,
unlike
a
variance
which
gives
permission
to
an
owner
to
use
a
piece
of
property
in
manner,
that's
inconsistent
with
zoning.
A
special
permit
again
allows
somebody
to
use
a
property,
that's
consistent
with
the
zoning
ordinance
as
long
as
it
meets
certain
standards.
B
Your
schedule
of
use
regulations
I
know
that
this
is
completely
illegible
up
on
the
PowerPoint,
but
you
do
have
access
to
this
in
in
e-codes
in
your
in
the
zoning
code.
What
this
is
is
on
the
left
hand,
side
you
see
all
of
the
types
of
uses
that
are
permitted
by
by
District
then
across
the
top
is
all
the
various
zoning
districts
within
the
city
and
within
each
of
the
little
little
boxes
you
have
either
an
X
meaning
the
use
is
not
permitted.
B
E
B
By
use
so
a
particular
use,
for
example,
a
bed
and
breakfast
might
be
a
permitted
use
in
one
District,
but
it
might
be
subject
to
a
special
permit
approval
in
another
District,
so
you
always
have
to
look
at
the
district
that
you're
in
and
what
uses
are
permitted
and
how
they're
permitted
in
each
of
those
districts.
So
this
is
your
tool
for
for
determining
that.
E
B
So
you
kind
of
covered
my
first
topic
here
list
of
uses
the
zoning
code
identifies
uses
in
each
zoning
District
that
are
subject
to
a
special
permit.
We
just
reviewed
that
the
tool
in
the
zoning
code
that
that
you
can
use
to
determine
what
special
permit
uses
are
permitted
in
your
District
as
far
as
approval
Authority
goes
generally
speaking,
the
legislative
body.
So
the
city
council
can
authorize
the
planning
board
or
the
zoning
board
to
decide
special
use,
permit
applications.
B
So
city
council
has
the
authority
by
default
for
special
use
permits,
but
it
can
delegate
that
authority
to
either
the
planning
board
or
the
zoning
board
or
it
can
keep
it
to
itself.
So
in
Beacon,
as
we
saw
in
the
I,
didn't
quite
see
because
it's
hard
to
read
up
there,
but
as
we
just
discussed
it
beacons
some
special
permits.
The
planning
board
is
the
approval
Authority.
Some
special
permits,
the
city
council,
is
the
approval
Authority.
In
recent
years,
the
city
council
has
been
sort
of
getting
away
from
being
the
approval
Authority
for
special
permits.
B
F
B
B
It
specifies
public
notice
requirements
for
the
application
of
public
hearing
is
required
and
that's
a
matter
of
state
law,
so
we
have
to
require
a
public
hearing
for
all
special
use
permits
for
site
plan.
That's
not
the
case
for
site
plan.
Local
municipalities
actually
have
the
option
of
requiring
a
public
hearing
or
not
in
Beacon.
In
your
code,
you
do
require
a
public
hearing
for
site
plan
applications,
but
that's
not
the
case
everywhere
in
New
York,
because
the
state
enable
statue
gives
that
option
to
the
municipalities
to
decide.
B
So
it's
a
little
tangent
223-18
also
specifies
that
you
have
to
make
your
final
decision
on
the
special
use
permit
application
within
62
days
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed
or
after
secret
is
complete.
The
application
has
to
include
a
certificate
of
inspection
and
that's
referring
to
that
ini.
The
inflow
and
infiltration
review
that
has
to
happen
with
every
application
and
that's
in
addition
to
the
code
in
the
past
couple
years
or
so.
B
B
It
also
explains
that
a
special
permit
expires
after
the
approval
is
issued.
If
a
building
permit
is
not
building
permit
application
is
not
submitted
within
one
year.
An
applicant
would
have
to
request
an
extension
or
the
approval
expires
and
is
null
and
void
at
that
point,
once
a
building
permit
is
issued,
the
applicant
then
has
either
one
year
or
two
years
to
complete,
depending
on
if
it's
a
new
building
or
for
Revenue.
B
B
The
building
inspector
can
revoke
a
special
permit
if
it's
found
that
the
use
of
the
premise
that's
under
that
special
permit
doesn't
conform
to
the
conditions
of
the
special
permit.
So
you
issue
a
special
permit
that
says
this
use,
you
know,
conforms
with
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
as
long
as
it's
operated
from
8
AM
to
5
p.m,
and
it's
found
that
that
use
is
operating
consistently
until
you
know
10
o'clock
11
o'clock
at
night.
Under
our
code,
the
building
inspector
would
have
the
authority
to
revoke
that
special
permit.
B
I
D
D
E
B
The
if
the
planning
board's
resolution
specifically
said
that
it
was
retaining
jurisdiction-
and
you
know,
authorized
the
planning
or
the
building
inspector
to
bring
it
back
to
the
planning
board
instead
of
revoking
automatically.
It
would
basically
that's
not
addressed
in
the
code.
So
unless
it's
addressed
in
the
resolution,
then
no,
unless
the
applicant
affirmatively
reapplied
and
sought
up
some
sort
of
modification.
So.
A
D
D
G
B
Yeah,
so
there
is
there's
the
justice
court
process
and
I'd
have
to
double
check.
I
can't
recall
if
in
Beacon
it's
a
violation
of
the
code
to
violate
a
resolution
of
the
planning
board.
I
think
it
is
I
think
that
amendment
was
made
in
recent
years,
but
I
would
have
to
double
check
if
that's
in
there.
B
That's
a
lot
of
power
here,
all
right,
so
there's
the
schedule
of
use
regulations
which
we
talked
about
all
right.
So
here's
the
meat
of
special
permits,
as
I
mentioned,
special
use,
permits
it
connotes
a
use,
that's
permitted
in
the
zoning
districts
as
long
as
it
meets
certain
uses.
There
are
General
standards,
I'm,
sorry,
certain
requirements.
There
are
General
standards
or
requirements,
and
then
there
are
specific
standards
or
requirements.
B
The
first
one
is
that
the
location
and
size
of
the
use,
the
nature,
the
hours
and
intensity
of
the
operations
involved
in
or
conducted
in
connection
with
it,
the
size
of
the
site
in
relation
to
it
and
the
location
of
the
site
with
respect
to
streets.
Giving
access
to
it
are
such
that
it
will
not
conflict
with
the
appropriate
and
orderly
development
of
the
site
and
the
existing
permitted
uses
on
adjacent
blocks.
B
B
The
third
is
that
operations
in
connection
with
any
special
abuse
are
not
going
to
be
more
objectionable
to
nearby
Properties
by
reason
of
noise,
fumes,
vibration
or
other
characteristics
in
article
4.
That's
their
performance
standards,
then,
would
be
the
operations
of
any
permitted
use
not
required
in
a
special
permit.
So
is
the
special
use
going
to
create
noise
fumes,
vibration
or
other
similar?
B
B
The
next
one
is
that
uses
buildings
and
operations
will
be
accessible
for
emergency
services
and
appropriately
located
for
water,
sewer
and
other
infrastructure
requirements.
So
you
know,
is
an
ambulance
able
to
get
there
is
a
fire
truck
able
to
get
to
the
site
to
properly
deploy
their
services
and
our
is
their
appropriate
water,
sewer
and
other
utilities
servicing
the
site?
B
And
lastly,
the
use
will
comply
with
other
regulations
in
the
code
and
will
be
compatible
with
the
recommendations
in
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
and
the
lwrp,
which
is
the
local
Waterfront
revitalization
program,
so
that
the
use
has
to
be
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
and
all
of
their
provisions
of
the
code.
So
those
are
the
general
standards.
Those
are
the
standards
that
apply
to
every
single
special
use
permit
in
the
city.
B
Then
there
are
specific
standards.
There's
a
lot
of
these
there's
a
lot
of
specific
standards
in
your
code
for
various
uses.
Not
every
single
special
use
permit
has
a
set
of
specific
standards.
Some
of
them
just
rely
on
the
general
standards.
I
pulled
just
one
example
out
of
your
code
for
bed
and
breakfast.
This
is
a
223-24.4
as
just
an
example
of
standards
that
the
city
council
felt
were
appropriate
for
making
sure
that
a
bed-
and
breakfast
in
particular,
is
not
going
to
have
an
adverse
impact
in
The
District,
in
which
it's
it's
proposed.
E
D
E
D
B
D
D
A
B
I,
wouldn't
yeah
I
think
that
you
would
not
want
to
be
in
a
situation
where
you
are
saying
that
there's
no
significant
adverse
impact
with
respect
to
traffic
for
a
proposed
use.
You
know
traffic
congestion,
that
the
the
roadways
you
know
can
handle
all
of
the
traffic,
and
you
know
it
all
it
all.
You
know
meets
those
tests,
but
then,
a
month
later,
you're
finding
that
you're
going
to
deny
a
special
permit
because
of
traffic
impacts,
because
you
find
that
they
don't
meet
this
condition.
D.
That.
K
K
B
Right
so
I
think
you're
talking
about
you
know
for
secret.
You
have
to
find
that
there's
a
signal.
You
know,
there's
no
significant
adverse
impact
but
I
think
you're
asking.
Is
there
some
Delta
between
where
maybe
it's
not
significant,
but
maybe
it's
an
impact
that
you
know
that
would
cause
you
to
find
that
it
doesn't
meet
one
of
these
standards,
so
I've
always
thought
theoretically,
I
think
that's
possible
I've
seen
cases.
That's
that
say!
Look
if
you
make
one
finding
in
secret.
B
G
One
way
to
look
at
these
would
be
as
areas
of
focus,
but
your
criteria
for
determining
whether
there's
an
adverse
impact
or
not
should
be
pretty
across
the
board,
whether
you're
looking
at
secret
or
whether
you're
looking
at
a
special
use,
permit
your
criteria
for
a
traffic
study
or
for
whether
a
driveway
is
laid
out
safe.
We
should
be
the
same,
but
this
is
pointing
you
at
certain
things
and
saying:
hey
for
a
bed
and
breakfast
it's
in
a
residential
neighborhood.
We
want
the
Ingress
and
egress
to
be
safe.
G
B
Think
that's
a
great
way
to
look
at
it.
That's
a
great
summary
right,
so
these
were
some
of
the
specific
standards
for
bed
and
breakfasts.
Again,
some
of
these
are
black
and
white
right
minimum
lot
size.
It's
40
000
square
feet.
Either
you
meet
that
or
you
don't
others,
as
we
just
saw
in
the
general
standards,
are
require
a
little
bit
more
discretion.
You
know
you're
applying
your
your
discretion
as
many
board
members
to
determine
whether
the
applicant
has
met
that
standard.
It's
not
as
black
and
white.
B
The
lodging
provided
shall
be
for
periods
of
less
than
two
weeks
in
duration.
So
a
lot
of
these
end
up
being
conditions
of
the
special
permit
as
well.
So
what
happens?
If
someone
wants
to
establish
a
bed
and
breakfast
it's
subject
to
a
special
permit,
they're
on
a
lot
of
30
000
square
feet
instead
of
forty
thousand
square
feet,
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
they
can't
get
the
special
permit.
B
B
B
So
there
was
a
case
that
went
all
the
way
up
to
the
court
of
appeals,
which
is
the
highest
court
in
New
York
back
in
2004.
That
confirmed
in
fact
that
the
New
York
State
statutes
do
allow
the
zoning
board
authority
to
Grant
area
variances
from
special
permit
standards.
So
there
was
a
question
in
the
law
about
whether
that
was
the
case
or
not,
and
that
was
a
result.
B
B
So
when
you
are
making
your
final
determination
on
a
special
use,
permit
both
New
York
State
statue
and
your
code
allow
you
to
impose
reasonable
conditions
that
are
directly
related
to
an
incidental
to
the
proposed
special
use
permit
these
conducted.
You
know
what
the
case
law
example
here.
These
conditions
have
to
relate
to
the
use
of
the
property
and
not
the
applicant
or
the
owner.
B
This
case
that
I
have
cited
here:
Dexter
versus
Town
board,
the
town
of
gates.
It's
an
old
cases
from
1975,
but
I
think
the
facts
of
it
are
kind
of
interesting.
It
actually
relates
to
a
rezoning.
So
the
applicant
asks
the
town
board
to
rezone
a
particular
piece
of
property.
It
was
to
allow
a
supermarket,
in
fact
the
Wegmans.
B
It's
like
this,
so
Wegmans
petitioned
the
town
board
to
rezone
the
property.
The
town
board
did
rezone
the
property
in
response
to
that
petition
and
imposed
a
bunch
of
conditions
on
the
rezoning,
including
a
condition
that
said,
the
application
for
the
construction
of
a
resale
Supermarket
by
Wegman,
Enterprises,
Inc
and
related
structures,
shell,
in
order
to
the
benefit
of
Wegman
Enterprises
Inc.
Only
and
for
that
specific
purpose.
D
B
Three
minutes
the
other
thing
that
you
want
to
keep
in
mind
when
you're,
considering
your
final
determination
in
addition
to
what
conditions
you
may
want
to
might
want
to
put
on
a
special
permit,
is
the
the
you
know,
age-old
rational
basis,
substantial
evidence
standard,
so
the
decision
to
Grant
or
deny
a
special
permit
must
have
a
rational
basis,
supported
by
substantial
evidence
in
the
record.
So
this
standard
applies
to
every
single
decision
that
you
make.
E
B
B
The
applicant
is
the
one
that
has
the
burden
to
show
compliance
with
the
conditions
of
a
special
use.
Permit
and
I
think
that
this
quote
from
the
second
Department
case
from
1998
is
a
helpful
one.
It
says,
while
a
property
owner
is
not
entitled
to
a
special
use,
permit
merely
for
the
asking
once
it
is
shown
that
the
contemplated
use
is
in
conformance
with
the
conditions
imposed.
Those
are
those
General
conditions
and
the
the
specific
conditions
that
we
spoke
about.
B
D
D
D
A
To
approve
last
month's
meeting
notes
into
the
record
motion
by
Kevin
seconded
second
by
Len,
all
in
favor
aye
aye
aye
great.
So
that
brings
us
to
our
first
agenda
item.
This
is
the
continued
public
hearing
on
an
application
for
special
use,
permit
and
site
plan
approval,
hotel
and
event
space,
1113,
Walcott
Avenue,
submitted
by
prophecy
theater,
LLC
and
Jennifer.
Did
you
just
want
to
give
us
a
brief
synopsis
of
where
we've
been
and
how
we've
gotten
here.
B
So
this
is
approval
for
a
special
you,
an
application
for
a
special
use,
permit
and
site
plan
approval.
We
just
spoke
about
special
use
permits
and
what
those
are
the
applicant
is
still
in
the
process
of
providing
information
to
the
board.
The
board,
as
an
opportunity,
obviously
still
to
ask
questions
and
ask
for
further
information.
L
Evening,
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
board,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Taylor
Palmer
I'm,
a
partner
with
the
law
firm
of
Cuddy
and
fader
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
for
the
record.
It's
nearly
a
year
of
public
hearings,
as
the
planning
board
attorney
mentioned.
We
are
before
you
this
evening
in
connection
with
our
continued
review
for
the
prophecy
theater
application.
L
1113
Walcott,
welcome
incoming
member
Francis
I
know
that's
a
new
information,
that's
forthcoming
and
we
do
appreciate
Jill's
service
to
the
board
and
hopefully,
she's,
watching
this
meeting
from
her
balcony
this
evening
before
I
dive
into
chairman
I
also
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
noticing.
I
did
get
a
haircut
yesterday
now
back
to
business
tonight,
I
am
joined
by
our
architect,
Arya
Siegel,
as
well
as
our
traffic
consultant
Richard
d'andrea
from
Collier's
engineering
and
Mike
bodendorff
of
Hudson
Land
Design,
we're
also
joined
by
our
noise
consultant,
who
will
present
this
evening.
L
The
applicant
is
also
joining
us.
This
evening
we
were
last
before
you
in
February
on
the
15th
and
we're
here
for
our
continued
discussion
and
hearing
on
the
reduced
event,
management
plans
and
the
acoustical
reports
prepared
for
the
property.
Since
our
last
meeting
and,
of
course,
the
snowstorm,
we
did
submit
a
letter
dated
February
28th,
introducing
further
reductions
to
the
conference
and
events
based
proposal
which
now
limits
the
maximum
capacity
to
150
total
attendees.
So
we've
reduced
that
down
from
last
month,
we
were
at
180.
L
Of
course,
the
original
consideration
was
close
to
500..
The
applicant
also
submitted
a
revised
event
management
plan,
and
that
simplifies
and
streamlines
those
parameters
that
are
included
in
that
event
management
plan,
so
it
counts
for
the
hours
of
operation
the
days
and
the
number
of
types
of
events
per
year,
and
it
limits
the
the
certain
we
call
them
types
of
events.
L
Our
simplified
proposal
mandates
the
following.
These
are
included
in
our
submission
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
public.
Joining
this
evening.
Events
are
now
limited
to
Thursdays,
Fridays,
Saturdays,
Sundays
and
holidays
holiday
Eaves,
so
the
holiday
Eaves
are
included.
It's
Memorial
Day
Independence,
Day,
Labor,
Day
indigenous
people's
day
and
then
Veterans
Day.
So
those
are
the
holiday
Eaves.
There
will
be
no
events,
as
we
discussed
at
the
last
meeting
on
Mondays,
Tuesdays
and
Wednesdays.
L
There
was
discussion
with
the
board,
of
course,
about
potentially
operating
all
days
of
the
week,
but
we've
maintained
no
operations
on
Monday,
Tuesday
and
Wednesdays
just
of
the
event
space.
Of
course,
the
church
on
the
existing
premises
today
could
be
open
all
days.
Indoor
outdoor
I
mean
that's
a
presently
permitted
use
on
the
premises.
The
maximum
capacity
for
events
as
I
noted
is
150
now,
and
that's
on
Fridays
Saturdays,
Sundays,
holidays
and
holiday
Eaves,
and
then
we've
limited
the
number
of
attendees
to
130
maximum
on
Thursdays
on
Fridays,
Saturdays
and
holiday.
L
Eaves
events
will
now
end
no
later
than
8
30
p.m.
With
attendees
dispersed
by
9
pm,
we
had
an
extensive
discussion
with
the
board
about
trying
to
ensure
that
patrons
of
the
event
space
would
be
off
the
site
before
evening
hours
related
to
the
city's
noise
ordinance
and,
generally
speaking,
just
reasonable
hours
of
operation
in
the
neighborhood
on
Sundays,
Thursdays
and
holidays
preceding
work
days.
Events
will
end
no
later
than
7
30
PM,
which
attendees
disbursed
by
8pm
the
same
concept
related
to
the
noise
ordinance
and,
of
course,
respect
to
the
community
neighborhood.
L
There
will
be
a
total,
a
maximum
total
of
160
events
per
year.
Of
course,
that
relates
to
the
number
of
events
total
at
the
site
and
the
cafe
will
be
closed.
The
public
if
attendance
is
greater
than
100
attendees
that'll
relate
back
to
a
larger
parking
number.
Of
course,
none
of
which
we
come
near
to
triggering
with
the
reduced
operations.
The
cafe
hours
of
operation
will
be
7
AM
to
8,
30
p.m,
Sunday
through
Thursday
and
7
A.M
to
9
pm,
Friday
and
Saturday.
L
The
cemetery
Trail
will
be
gated
off
to
prevent
any
access
after
9
pm
on
Fridays
and
Saturdays
and
holiday,
Eaves
and
8pm.
On
days
preceding
workdays,
lastly,
in
response
to
comments
that
we
received
at
the
last
hearing,
we
are
proposing
an
additional
Hotel
staffer,
so
there
will
always
be
someone
on
site,
24,
7
related
to
the
hotel
use.
So
we
added
that
as
a
consideration
that
had
been
mentioned
at
a
few
meetings
previously,
in
addition
to
the
event
plan,
a
management
plan.
L
Excuse
me,
the
Afghan
also
submitted
a
revised
traffic
report,
bless
you
accessing
the
maximum
capacity
reduction
in
the
acoustic
report.
Responding
to
this
noise
Consultants
report
report,
which
we'll
mention
just
a
minute
as
discussed
previously,
the
city's
traffic
consultant
has
provided
no
further
comments
and
it's
included.
The
applicants
proposed
management
plan
should
effectively
mitigate
against
any
adverse
impacts.
The
city's
Traffic
Safety
commission
also
had
the
opportunity
that
was
another
recommendation
to
this
board
at
the
last
meeting
and
as
a
result
of
the
referral
they
issued
a
memo
recently.
L
M
A
L
Me
thank
you
Mr
chairman.
Additionally,
our
noise
consultant
another
Mike
B,
because
we
have
enough
Johns,
we'll
discuss
shortly.
Our
second
acoustical
report,
which
reiterates
its
prior
conclusion,
that
the
project
will
not
generate,
sounds
exceeding
the
soy's
cities
daytime
or
nighttime
noise
standards
and
will
not
have
any
potentially
significant
adverse
noise
impacts.
Given
that
any
produced
sound
levels
will
be
consistent
with
the
existing
built
environment
and
the
busy
90
Corridor
and
the
existing
uses.
It
also
recognized
the
applicants
reduced
hours
event
capacity.
L
L
We've
taken
a
lot
of
steps
with
you
all
to
try
and
mitigate
and
further
reduce
any
potential
impacts,
and
we
hope
you
know
we've
been
responsive
to
those
of
the
public
comments
you
know
from
from
adjoining
property
owners.
That
previously
said,
look
we're
looking
at
events
below
200
persons.
We
have
we've
reduced
the
hours,
the
event
capacity
and
the
like.
L
We're
really
trying
to
to
not
only
meet
the
secret
standards,
but
those
in
the
special
permit,
and
this
Redevelopment
proposal
is
designed
to
also
allow
for
more
efficient
and
effective
enforcement,
because
that's
been
a
comment
from
the
board,
so
we
try
to
streamline
what
days
what
hours
and
that
they
wouldn't
go
beyond
night
hours
for
Community
character
or
for
enforcement
purposes.
So
with
that
I
will
turn
to.
N
N
N
What
we
did
after
the
last
hearing
at
your
request
was
several
things
number
one
I
went
back
and
added
an
analysis
of
the
patrons
voices
as
they
would
exit
the
the
front
of
the
venue,
that's
all
on
figure
one
and
then,
as
they
would
approach
route
9d,
and
they
also
analyzed
the
effect
of
the
the
intervening
Hotel
building.
I
hadn't
really
done
that
before.
N
So
anyway,
with
regard
to
our
analysis
and
I'll
kind
of
work,
this
in
with
what
I
I
see
as
the
noise
consultancies
responses
or
commentary,
basically
number
one
is
We've.
Pretty
much
I
think
put
the
venue
itself
to
bed
in
terms
of
its
ability
to
meet
the
daytime
standard.
Well,
I
guess:
first,
should
I
start
with
the
change
in
hours.
The
change
in
hours
assures
that
that
the
the
dispersal
will
occur
by
9
pm
and
therefore
the
daytime
standard
is
what
is
applicable.
N
So
that's
the
55
decibels
at
the
property
line,
the
with
regards
so
we
kind
of
Leave
Behind,
the
more
kind
of
vague
and
possibly
more
stringent,
plainly
audible,
but
inside
the
adjacent
resonances,
as
opposed
to
outside
and
on
the
outside
of
the
properties.
Basically,
with
regard
to
The
Venue,
we
put
on
the
throttle
at
for
for
or
volume
at
95
decibels
on
the
inside.
N
When
you
put
in
the
loss,
the
barrier
insertion
loss
of
the
walls,
the
church
walls
which
are
Concrete
and
brick
and
then
put
on
acoustic
glass
that
results
in
about
a
36,
a
minimum
of
about
a
36
decibel
decrease
which
gets
you
to
about
59
decibels
at
the
windows.
So
by
the
time
again,
you
get
to
the
property
line,
you're
below
the
55
decibel
date.
N
There
was
some
discussion
as
to
whether
or
not
there
would
be
openings
and
what
we've
decided
is
that
we'll
do
some
sort
of
architectural
treatment
which
will
maintain
a
faux
opening
in
the
bottom
portions
that
that
faux
opening
will
be
filled
and
then,
consequently,
you
won't
have
any
sort
of
flanking
effort
through
the
wall.
In
other
words,
you'll
have
a
solid
wool
and
that'll
have
that
full
effect
underneath
the
deck
is
where
the
HVAC
is
going
to
be
for
the
prophecy
Hall
itself.
So
that
would
be
the
sound
mitigation
for
that.
N
The
deck
itself
again
is
up
in
the
is
up
about
10
feet
off
the
ground.
I
was
going
to
be
10
feet
off
the
ground,
and
then
the
wall
extends
up
there
and
never
had
any
proposed
window
openings
and
it
extends
to
the
Western
and
the
deck
and
I
believe
that
we
have
a
concurrence
in
that
both
a
venue
and
the
deck
and
the
HVAC
that
those
standards
would
be
met.
N
Then
we
go
to
the
hotel
building
will
in
fact
serve
as
an
effective
barrier
to
the
West
End
Lofts,
the
West
End
departments,
in
terms
of
the
building
itself,
that
there's
a
pretty
there's
a
pretty
good
intervention
between
the
two
and
you
have
a
35
foot
high
structure.
You
know
with
30
rooms
in
it,
so
that
provides
a
pretty
effective
barrier
between
any
of
the
people
exiting
the
venue
or,
for
example,
loading
and
unloading
at
the
back
corner
of
the
venue
and
the
West
End
loss
themselves.
N
N
With
regard
to
patrons
what
I
did
was
I
analyzed,
10
people
I
think
was
the
number
that
that
people
used
I
had
originally
analyzed
75
decibels.
Adding
the
two
additional
conversations
got
me
up
to
about
79
decibels.
I
then
put
those
Folks
at
the
entrance,
the
front
entrance
to
the
venue
and
then
calculated
it
to
the
property
line
and
came
up
with
about
a
24
decibel
reduction,
which
gets
you
down
to
about
55
decibels
at
the
property
line.
N
N
The
the
the
the
issue
that
that
sort
of
leaves
us
with
I
think
is
the
traffic
that
runs
along
the
north
or
is
going
to
be
running
along
the
north
driveway.
First
of
all,
the
north
driveway
is
in
existence.
Now
this
is
not
a
new
Sound
Source.
It's
been
in
existence
for
the
church,
so
there
was,
there
were
vehicles
running
back
and
forth
on
there.
N
There
was
no
mitigation,
no
fencing
or
anything
like
that
before
I
had
originally
thought
that
a
nine
foot
fence
would
be
necessary
there,
with
the
intervening
hotel,
I
think
I
was
I,
was
able
to
take
that
back
to
six
feet.
There
was
some
discussion
as
to
you
know
that
that
it
does
show
Effectiveness
for
the
55
decibel
for
receptors
sitting
at
the
property
line,
which
is
the
standard,
and
so
the
discussion
goes
to
what
type
of
fence
that
you
put
in
the
recommendation
was
a
cedar,
a
rough
cedar
fence.
N
You
want
something
with
a
rough
surface
and
a
tongue
and
groove,
meaning
you
don't
just
butt
the
boards
together,
but
you
do
a
tongue
and
groove
and
that
way
when,
when
things
change
over
time,
when
the
boards
maybe
shrink
or
expand
over
time
when
it's
wet
or
cold,
that
they
don't
grade
gaps,
the
alternative
I
was
thinking
of
was
a
double-sided
fence.
I've
done
that
one.
Before
too,
is
that
you
put
the
good
side
on
on,
for
example,
with
a
stockade
fence.
N
N
So
what
it
really
comes
down
to
was
the
the
vehicular
sound
levels
on
that
particular
stretch
that
runs
between
the
hotel
and
the
and
the
property
line
on
with
the
West
End
Apartments
or
West
End
Lofts.
Basically,
like
I,
said
the
property
line,
matches
and
I
think
we're
in
agreement
with
that.
That'll
meet
the
daytime
standard,
so
the
question
becomes.
Okay.
Now
you
have
vehicles
transiting
that
area.
N
The
noise
consultancy
pointed
out
that
that
they
they
pointed
out
that
the
transportation
noise
modeling
manual,
which
is
an
L
Max.
In
other
words,
that's
about
the
upper
one
percent
of
the
of
the
vehicular,
sounds
I
calculated
them
down
in
this
mid-60
level,
down
to
even
to
the
50s,
because
the
traffic
on
that
section,
it's
12
feet
wide,
so
you're
not
going
to
get
any
heavy
trucks,
they
just
don't
have
the
turning
radius.
N
They
don't
have
the
space
to
get
in
there,
and
this
is
not
the
type
of
use
that
attracts
that
sort
of
thing,
so
you'll
largely
get
vehicles
and
vans,
and
maybe
the
occasional
panel
truck
that'll
go
in
there,
but
with
those
those
particular
sources.
The
source
of
the
sound
at
Cruise
level,
at
very
low
speed,
you're
thinking
like
five
miles
an
hour
is
down
low.
N
It's
down
around
three
feet
off
the
ground:
you're,
not
getting
a
lot
out
of
the
engine
compartment
because
you're
not
accelerating
or
decelerating,
and
so
a
lot
of
what
you're
getting
is
you're,
getting
the
exhaust
and
you're
getting
the
tire
noise
on
on
whatever
pavement
or
gravel
or
whatever
is
there?
So
what
happens?
If
you
have
a
six
foot
fence,
you
have
a
narrow
space.
N
So
what
happens
is
a
six
foot
fence
with
a
three
foot
source
is
actually
a
direct
line
of
sight,
Interruption
onto
the
adjacent
property,
not
only
at
the
property
line,
but
as
you
angle,
up
towards
the
the
apartment
windows
on
the
second
and
third
floor,
so
that
also
adds
space.
In
other
words,
now,
if
somebody
happens
to
be
on
their
ladder,
you
know
washing
their
windows
on
the
outside,
and
one
of
these
vehicles
goes
by.
N
There
is
a
there's.
There
is
an
interruption
to
the
direct
line
of
sight,
so
what
I
did
was
I
calculated
that
barrier
insertion
loss
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
need
for
complex
modeling,
because
it's
one
barrier,
it's
one
source
one
one
receptor
so
I'd
like
to
do-
is
provide
you
I
think
you
already
have
that
with
several
Cottons.
N
Looking
at
that
point
on
the
first
part
of
the
table
get
to
it.
The
first.
The
upper
table
is
a
second
story
window
and
that
shows
basically
a
14
decibel
loss
between
the
the
interception
by
the
barrier
and
then
the
distance
to
the
window.
So
again,
if
you're,
what
I
did
what
I
would
kind
of
take
issue
with
using
the
transportation
noise
manual
l-max?
N
N
So
when
I,
when
I
did
the
calculation
I
looked
at
the
building,
the
building
is
about
62
feet,
long
from
east
to
west
you're
running
at
five
miles
an
hour,
which
means
that
the
transit
time
across
that
building
is
nine
seconds,
so
you'd
actually
have
to
have
three
vans
or
or
Panel
trucks
go
by
in
a
row.
Boom
boom
boom
to
get
actually
get
one
event,
as
opposed
to
even
three
events.
N
I
would
put
that
much
lower
because
I'm
going
for
an
leq
as
opposed
you
know,
in
a
series
of
events,
as
opposed
to
a
maximum
event
and
I.
Think
that's
what
your
standards
chapter
149
calls
for,
but
putting
that
aside
and
going
with
the
168
if
I
take
68
decibels
and
I,
do
the
insertion
loss
of
of
14
decibels
at
the
Second
Story
window
now
I'm
down
to
54.,
so
I'm,
compliant
with
the
daytime
standard
of
55.
N
same
thing:
if
I
go
further
up
now,
I'm
up
by
it's
actually
a
greater
distance
so
again,
there's
more
loss
in
the
sound
as
you
go
over
distance
and
now
I'm
at
an
18
decibel
drop,
19
decibel
drop
somewhere
in
there
and
some
about
50
decibels
again
below
the
daytime
standard.
Add
those
two
windows,
so
the
barrier,
the
six
foot
barrier
would
work
for
that
as
well.
And
basically,
what
it
also
wanted
to
point
out
was
that
the
there
was
a
some
discussion
as
to
whether
or
not
the
vehicle
is
accelerating
onto
Route.
N
9D
should
be
included
and
that's
a
different
sound.
You
know,
because
then
you
have
the
engine
revving,
the
engine's
revving,
so
you
can
gain
speed,
and
so
that
tends
to
be
a
higher
sound
and
you're.
Also
increasing
your
speed,
but
two
things
number
one
is
I
want
to
give
you
a
picture
of
the
adjacent
Apartments
and
it
shows
that
that
corner
where
it's
going
to
occur
is
actually
a
steroid.
So
there's
no
real,
there's
no
living
space
in
that
particular
corner.
L
And
while
this
is
being
passed
out,
just
for
the
benefit
of
those
again,
this
was
highlighted
by
our
noise
consultant,
but
this
is
an
existing
condition.
Today,
unmitigated,
no
offense,
there's
an
existing
driveway
in
that
location,
permitted
for
a
church
use
on
the
site.
So
we
are
improving
the
conditions
over
the
existing
or
the
permitted
conditions
at
the
site.
N
So
again,
if
I
make
the
argument
number
one
is
that
that's
by
the
time
a
car
gets
to
that
apron
to
the
end
of
the
driveway
and
is
in
the
apron
waiting
to
to
you
know,
sitting
at
queue
and
waiting
to
accelerate
out
into
there.
It
is
in
the
90
right
of
way,
so
it
is
off-site,
and
so
at
that
point
I
would
consider
that
to
be
a
part
of
the
normal
ebb
and
flow
and
again
you
know
from
our
sound
measurements.
N
You
know
when
we
looked
at
the
the
level
on
the
Northern
property
line,
it
already
exceeded
the
daytime
standard
of
55.1,
and
also
this
is
this-
is
not
a
new
noise
Source.
It's
there,
it
could
be
used
by
the
church,
it
was
used
by
the
church
and,
and
you
have
sources
on
90
that
are
similar
or
heavier
because
the
heavy
trucks
and
then
also
you
have.
N
This
is
a
this
is
a
multi-family
use,
and
so
my
guess
is
it's
probably
between
four
and
six
box
style,
trucks
or
delivery
vans
that
occur
every
day
on
this
property
and
run
along
that
western
boundary
of
the
one
set
of
the,
for
example,
building
one,
and
so
this
this
noise
source
is
already
there.
It's
not
out
of
character
with
what
is
already
occurring
in
the
neighborhood.
N
A
Not
at
the
moment,
just
so
I
have
actually
I
do
have
one.
This
is
more
a
confirmation,
so
your
your
comments
here
tonight
are
in
response
to
the
noise
consultancies
response
to
your
so
noise
consultant.
They
submitted
their
responses
to
your
report
on
March
24th.
Your
report
being
submitted,
February,
28th,
correct,
okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
have
the
sequence
of
the
information
right,
so
Eric
is
with
us
tonight
good.
A
L
Yes,
and
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
public,
the
images
we
handed
out
and
will
be
included
in
our
submission
this
week,
we'd
beg
and
plead
Amanda
that
we
could
submit
until
Friday,
but
we'll
we'll
coordinate
that
I
guess,
based
on
what
the
John's
suggests
is
sufficient
timing.
That's
only
72
hours
from
now,
Yonkers
turn
around
timing,
but
we
will
include
those
in
certainly
if
there
are
any
comments
from
their
consultant
that
aren't
related
to
these
additional
changes.
We
only
got
this
study
what
Monday?
Yes!
L
So
so
we
we've
only
seen
it
as
of
a
couple
days
to
kind
of
turn
this
around
ourselves,
so
we're
just
trying
to
be
responsive
to
that
in
the
hope
that
we
can
work
to
address
it
and,
of
course,
your
Consultants
here
so
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
have
a
meaningful
dialogue,
but
we're
not
objecting
by
any
stretch,
to
additional
comments,
but
I
think
the
the
cons.
What
what
we
presented
and
I
think
what?
Hopefully,
the
city's
consultant
will
also
represent.
L
A
O
O
So
in
that
Matt
in
in
that
manner,
the
lmax
would
be
an
appropriate
way
to
be
looking
at
this.
So
I
I
would
just
refer
to
that.
As
far
as
the
the
wall
attenuation
study
that
was
just
presented,
the
findings
of
that
I
would
have
to
review
the
data.
That's
presented.
I
feel
that,
first
of
all,
the
the
the
the
data
that
was
being
used
by
the
applicants
expert
was
was
not
referenced.
So
I
don't
know
what
source
you
used.
O
O
There
are
there's
doors
between
that
and
the
and
the
open
door
at
the
front
is
that
representation
is
accurate.
Then
then,
I
do
believe
that
the
sound
levels
coming
from
the
building
itself
will
be
attenuated
by
the
structure
so
long
as
they're
the
interior
door,
and
the
gallery,
for
instance,
is
not
opened
at
the
same
time
as
the
front
door.
O
I
have,
in
my
analysis,
held
in
advance
a
discussion
of
plant
of
the
plain
audibility,
because
it
has
been
rendered
from
a
regulatory
point
for
Regulatory
Compliance
analysis,
because
the
the
facility
has
stipulated
to
not
having
sound
sources
on
the
property
after
9
pm.
As
far
let
me
see,
but
that
I
I
do
want
to
also
point
out
that
was
in
my
reporting
that
other
people
may
not
may
not
be
reading
it.
O
There's
that,
contrary
to
testimony
given
at
the
last
hearing,
the
definition
of
plain
odability
and
the
code
is,
let
me
just
get
this
out
exactly
well.
The
definition
of
plain
irritability
in
the
in
194
excuse
me:
149
is
any
sound
that
can
be
detected
by
an
investigator
using
his
or
her
unaided
hearing
faculties
of
mom
liquidity.
As
an
example,
The
Sound
Source
on
Investigation
is
the
sound
production
device.
The
detection
of
the
rhythmic-based
component
of
the
music
is
sufficient
to
verify
playing
the
audible.
O
Sound,
an
investigator
need
not
determine
the
title
specific
words
or
the
artist
performing
the
song
specific
words,
and
this
is
now
back
to
my
narrative.
Not
the
definition.
Specific
words
need
not
be
identifiable.
The
criteria
is
simply
the
detection
of
the
sound,
and
so
you
know
again,
as
I
said,
I
will
help
hold
in
advance,
along
with
a
longer
discussion
about
whether
or
not
these
sources
will
be
audible
inside
the
the
dwellings.
As
that's
not
regulatory.
The
standard
that
will
be
applied
at
that
time.
A
H
A
N
I
think
I
think
the
last
thing
we
were
left.
We
had
the
venue
itself,
that's
we're
both
in
agreement
on
that
we
have
the
deck
we're
both
in
agreement
on
that
now,
in
terms
of
me
being
able
to
be
integrated.
Okay,
the
HVAC
we're
both
in
agreement
on
that
we
had
the
patrons
voices
and
elevated
voices
so
we're
both
in
agreement
on
that
we're
also
in
agreement
on
when
the
standard
applies
or
doesn't
apply
for
the
patrons
voices
or
the
vehicles
in
regard
to
chapter
149
with
regard
to
the
right-of-way
of
Route
90..
N
So
once
you
get
into
that
right
away,
route,
90,
you're,
technically
you're,
off
site
and
you're
in
the
flow
of
Route
90..
Well,
we
basically
left
and
we're
also
in
concurrence
that
the
hotel
itself
will
provide
a
significant
barrier
between
activities
at
the
venue
itself
on
the
outside
of
the
venue
and
the
West
End
loss.
What
we're
down
to
is
the
northern
driveway
yep.
D
N
O
Well,
I
I
agree
as
far
as,
if
we're
talking
about
again
I
I,
go
back
to
the
distinction
between
strict
Regulatory,
Compliance
and
impact
analysis.
Regulatory
Compliance
only
deals
with
things
that
are
on
the
site
and
that's
certainly
something
that
we
have
to
determine
right
now.
Impact
is
something
that
is
part
of
the
analysis
for
a
special
parameter
secret.
So
some
of
these
off-site
sound
sources
and
locations
are
relevant
for
that.
G
Eric,
can
you
just
confirm
that
that
you're
in
agreement
with
the
the
deck
and
the
noise
attenuating
wall
there
I
heard
you
say
that
you
were
in
agreement
with
the
building
based
on
the
adding
the
acoustic
glass
and
when
I
was
listening
to
you,
I
think
I
heard
you
say
that
you
were
talking
about
the
acoustic
glass
being
added
on
the
interior?
Does
it
matter
whether
it's
on
the
interior,
the
exterior
of
the
of
the
art,
glass,
I.
N
O
Yeah,
yes,
well,
the
one
thing
that
I
was
uncertain
about
was
first
of
all
was
whether
there
were
openings,
so
it
showed
in
the
site
plan
that
that
there
were
trellises
there.
So
now
that
has
been
clarified
that
that
those
will
in
fact
be
sealed,
it's
been
clarified
that
there
will
be
no
amplification
out
on
that
deck
and
so
that
so
I
I
concur
that
the
sounds
of
the
voices
on
that
deck
will
not
exceed
the
permissible
limit
at
at
River
Ridge.
O
As
far
as
the
the
window,
the
acoustical
treatment,
the
acoustical
treatment
has
to
be
on
the
inside,
because
it
also,
if
you,
if
you
seal
it
completely
condensation,
can
between
an
existing
window
and
an
acoustical
treatment
interior
that
can
be
condensation.
That
builds
up,
so
you
have
to
have
it
vented
slightly
and
venting
it
on
the
outside
would
would
be
very
problematic.
A
Okay,
great
thank
you
Eric,
so
so
again,
still
some
work
to
be
done.
Just
in
our
Consultants
understanding
your
analysis,
your
calculations
around
the
entry,
that's
your
understanding
as
well!
Yes,
yes,
okay
and
then
again
Eric,
you
raised
this
concept
of
you
know,
impacts
in
contrast
to
strict
Regulatory,
Compliance
I
I'm
curious
about
that.
I
can
I'd
like
to
continue
to
explore
that.
L
There
was
other
discussion,
as
you
may
recall,
there's
been
discussions
throughout
concerns
about
patrons
going
off-site
onto
adjoining
properties.
This
is
just
a
fence,
but
it
it
has
I
guess
it
could
have
the
added
benefit
it
isn't.
It
isn't
necessary
based
on
a
report
for
noise
abatement
as
much
as
it
is
for
so.
J
L
They
oh
yeah,
of
course,
yeah.
These
are.
These
are
Incorporated
and
I
just
anecdotally.
There
is
one
point
that
I
will
mention
and
we'll
incorporate
our
supplementalist
mission
as
we're
now
at
the
Regulatory
Compliance
and
these
subjective
standards
when
it
comes
to
the
noise
impacts.
Of
course,
the
board
must
consider
the
existing
conditions
and
this
those
are
unabated.
A
N
D
A
Well,
there's
so
there's
so
there's
the
distinction,
at
least
in
my
mind,
which
may
not
be
that
sophisticated
is
there
are
mitigating.
There
are
mitigating
interventions
that
you
can
make
to
sound
or
noise
generated
by
the
use.
Yes,
there
are
also
impacts,
mitigating
perhaps
to
an
existing
Baseline
level
right.
Yes,
so
again,
that's
that's
where
I'm,
maybe
improperly
mixing
the
terms,
but
whether
positive
or
negative,
it's
an
impact,
that's
how
I'm,
using
it
and
I.
L
L
We
do
I
totally
agree
that
currently
it's
not
being
utilized,
but
that's
the
review
that
the
board
would
consider
and
should
we'd
respectfully
submit,
should
consider
is
similar
to
what
you
all
have
considered
in
our
application,
which
is
the
worst
case.
The
application
today
could
do
and
can
do
what
it's
permitted
to
do
on
site,
which
is
have
a
church
and
its
operations,
whether
it's
masses,
funerals,
weddings
and
could
utilize.
A
F
Yeah
I
want
to
do
reinforce
what
the
planning
boards
Consultants
said
of
that
noise
off-site.
Yes,
it
may
the
way
chapter
149
has
written.
It
may
only
include
sites,
specific
sounds
on
the
site,
but
the
special
permit
conditions,
talk
about
impacts
on
neighbors
and
adjacent
uses,
and
so
I
think
it's
very
relevant,
and
we
should
continue
the
discussion
of
how
people
walking
along
Walcott
or
through
the
cemetery
after
the
performances
or
the
activities,
may
impact
neighbors
I.
D
A
F
L
E
F
So
it
would
be
simpler
to
push
all
of
the
customers
towards
that
direction,
rather
than
back
down
through
the
woods
in
the
cemetery,
especially
after
dark-
and
it
just
seems
to
me
it's
more
of
an
attractive
nuisance
for
Hammond,
Plaza
and
The
View
and
I've.
Never
particularly
liked
the
idea
of
diagonal
pass
through
an
area
of
gravestones
where
we
really
don't
know
where
people
were
buried
and
I.
Just
think
that
that
has
to
be
thought
completely,
whether
it's
necessary
or
not.
F
L
I,
if
the
board
sees
fit
I
mean,
if
there's
a
discussion,
maybe
the
board
wants
to
give
its
opinion
and
then
we
can
tell
you
what
we
can
do
about
it.
But
if
the
board
wants
us
to
address
it,
we
can
directly.
It
might
be
helpful
just
to
hear
from
the
board
if
that's
a,
if
it's
an
interest
of
the
board
or
concern,
we
can
address
it.
Okay,
any.
A
H
F
L
L
This
so
yeah
I
think
anecdotally.
This
is
a
similar
discussion
we
had
with
River
Ridge
before
it
was
approved
about
the
park
that
was
proposed.
The
applicant
had
come
in
with
what
was
believed
to
be
a
betterment,
an
opportunity
or
a
public
benefit
and
the
board,
and
because
of
the
Public's
opposition,
whether
it
was
Hammond,
Plaza
or
otherwise
said
no
Park
bad
idea
get
rid
of
the
park,
so
the
park
at
River
Ridge
was
removed.
This
is
a
similar
offering
by
the
applicant
the
applicant.
A
L
K
I
would
have
to
generally
agree
with
the
with
John's
position,
but
I
would
also
like
to
see
some
specificity
about
what
kind
of
work
and
restoration
is
going
to
be
happening
in
the
cemetery.
It's
very
vague
at
this
point,
so
it
could.
You
know
at
this
point
just
mean
you're
going
to
pull
some
Vines
down.
You
know,
or
are
you
going
to
the
extent
of
repairing
and
restoring
you
know
headstones
monuments,
we'll.
L
G
L
A
A
At
the
ready,
so
we
do,
however,
also
have
our
traffic
committees
review
as
well
with
and
again
I
alluded
to
this
or
I
mentioned
this
earlier.
Some
specific
recommendations
to
in
whatever
way
possible-
and
this
may
take
a
little
bit
more
conversation,
deter
parking
on
street
parking
on
specific
streets,
Garrett,
Academy
and
Beacon,
and
so
I'm.
Sorry,
Stratford,
not
Garrett.
A
And
I
do
note
that
the
applicant
is
going
so
far
as
to
indicate
on
your
plans
that
you
are
adding
signage
and
I
want
to
understand.
This
is
permanent
signage
or
temporary
signage
only
at
time
of
event.
So
this
is
movable
signage.
If
you
will
stating
no
no
parking
or
some
language
to
that
effect,
yeah.
R
I
Envision
it
as
like,
like
a
A-Frame
type
sign
that
you
could
have
that
would
have
it
posted.
As
in
a
certain
area
like
at
the
entrance
to
the
municipal
Plaza,
it
could
say
event
parking
with
an
arrow
here.
Similarly
at
Tompkins
lot
and
then
at
the
entrance
to
River
Ridge
or
West
End
Lofts,
or
on
those
specific
roadways,
we
could
post
no
parking,
no
event
parking.
A
D
A
Three
streets:
if
I
taken
an
intellectual
leap,
help
me
out
here
so
again
as
far
as
I
understand
it
for
those
specific
streets,
you're
directing
patrons.
Please
don't
park
here
on
these
streets
by
movable
signage,
but
again
this
isn't
enforceable
by
the
city.
It's
not
a
No
Parking
Zone.
What
do
you
do
if
a
patron
parks
there,
contrary
to
your
request,.
R
A
L
If
I
may
also
offer
us
Jim,
we've
also
mentioned
that
there
will
be
post-monitoring
offered
Pro
offered
by
the
applicant,
so
any
of
the
applicants,
conditions
and
the
site
conditions
are
being
considered
and
monitored
post-approval.
So
these
are
all
things
that
will
be
considered
by
the
applicant
and
have
been
incorporated
into
this
plan.
So
it's
not
just
now:
it's
not
just
best
laid
plans.
It's
put
that
into
action
and
make
it
happen.
A
L
Often
hear
this
discussion
in
other
applications
when
it
deals
with
signage,
an
applicant
will
say,
I
need
this
sign
to
tell
somebody
to
stop
at
my
restaurant
after
a
couple
months
when
people
learn
what
the
restaurant
is,
that
sign
may
have
less
Effectiveness
or
efficacy,
but
again
this
is
similar
to
those
conditions.
Yes,
this
is
a
new
proposal,
but
that
church
has
been
there
longer
than
most
any
buildings
in
the
city.
I.
A
G
G
L
It
would
today
it
would
it
would
today,
under
existing
conditions
based
on
the
site
constraints
for
the
permitted
use.
So
that's
that's
not
looking
at
it
in
1700
right
there
wouldn't
have
been
cars,
but
to
say
that
today
there
wouldn't
be
an
impact
from
a
church.
One
of
the
permitted
use
is
not
that's
not
again.
E
A
L
G
Well,
no
I
think
it's
germane,
so
we
have
a
memo
from
the
Traffic
Safety
Committee.
That
says
a
couple
of
things
that
are
that
are
pertinent
to
this
conversation.
One
of
them
is
that
the
the
committee
specifically
recommends
against
the
use
of
rombard
Avenue,
Beacon,
Street
or
Stratford
Avenue
for
overflow
parking.
Then
it
says
the
committee
had
some
concerns
regarding
overflow
parking
into
surrounding
residential
neighborhoods,
but
found
that
a
clause
allowing
for
the
planning
board
to
revisit
and
review
issues
that
come
up
at
a
later
point
would
be
an
adequate
method
of
addressing
these
concerns.
G
N
R
G
A
L
G
L
B
That
all
depends
on
how
the
resolution
is
crafted
and
what
conditions
you
impose,
because
remember,
we
talked
or
in
the
training
session,
about
the
fact
that
one
of
the
provisions
in
your
code
for
special
use
permits
is
that
if
the
applicant
does
not
comply
with
the
conditions
of
approval
for
a
special
use,
permit,
the
building
inspector
has
the
authority
to
revoke
that
approval,
so
it
for
special
use
permits.
It
always
is
very
important
if
you
are
approving
a
special
use,
permit
crafting
your
conditions
appropriately
based
on
to
tailor
it
no
point
intended
to
really.
B
B
G
L
And
we've
submitted
a
report
that
Arkansas
and
your
Consultants
have
said
works
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
further.
Although
the
Consultants,
the
Professional
Engineers,
have
said
these
things
when
implemented
work
to
address
the
concerns,
then,
if
we're
adding
a
post
monitoring,
because
the
board
and
the
public
have
mentioned
well,
it
may
not
so
we've
added
another
layer
of
enforceability
and
effect
efficacy
so
as
to
make
this
have
a
belt
to
the
suspenders
that
we've
already
incorporated
into
multiple
plans
that
have
been
reviewed
by
your
Consultants
right.
L
Our
point
I
think
those
issues
have
been,
though
this
is
a
new
conversation
related
to
the
new
old
conversation
related
to
other
residential
areas
that
we're
gonna
re-look
at
again.
But
we
are
trying
to
incorporate
that
through
post-monitoring,
which
would
otherwise
really
still
be
involved
in
our
our
event,
plan
and
I
think
it's
understand.
G
D
A
J
I
I
A
Please
note
that
those
letters
have
all
been
read:
they've
all
by
the
board,
they've
all
been
entered
into
the
record
I'm
going
to
ask
that
if
you
have
submitted
a
letter,
please
no
it's
noted.
It's
read.
It's
logged.
It's
part
of
the
record.
There's
no
need
necessarily
tonight
to
read
that
letter
or
otherwise
repeat
yourself.
A
By
doing
so
and
as
well.
If
you
have
come
to
speak
with
us
earlier,
because
I
see
some
familiar
faces,
it's
not
necessary
to
repeat
in
any
detail
what
you've
shared
with
us
in
the
past
because
again
we're
listening.
We
hear
you
and
it's
all
in
the
record
so
and
I'm
saying
this
in
the
interest
of
you,
know
time
and
efficiency
trust
me.
We
hear
you,
you
don't
need
to
repeat
yourself
and
if
you
would
like
to
just
you
know
briefly,
State
either
your
support
or
otherwise
that's
fine.
A
U
Clark
Edmond
to
Wilson
Street,
so,
yes,
I'm,
not
repeating
myself
as
a
relationship
to
I,
thought
the
train
station,
the
location
of
the
church
and
its
importance
and
I
rescind
that,
because
I
was
unaware
of
the
city's
master
plan
about
Main,
Street
development,
down
taking
Main
Street
down
to
Beekman
and
and
apparently
this
is
a
well-studied
matter
from
the
citizens
of
this
city.
They've
endorsed
that
plan
so
is
that
common
I've
made
in
the
past
is
no
longer
appropriate.
U
U
U
U
Controls
controls
as
to
the
environment
and
how
it's
affected
by
the
tenant
by
the
owner
is
the
city's
Leverage
and
the
cry
of
the
neighbors
against
commercial
development
and
against
cultural
development
in
this
city.
Given
the
fact
that
this
city
has
defined
its
relationship
with
the
train
that
I
don't
agree
with,
but
that's
the
the
that's
pretty
much
the
trend,
I
I,
there's
no
reason
for
the
city
not
to
Grant
the
application.
V
Name
is
Donna
Mickelson.
Excuse
me,
I
live
at
One
Liam
drive.
My
porch
is
right
next
door
to
the
parsonage,
so
I
can
speak
truthfully
and
honestly
about
what
happens
there.
I
can
tell
you
that
that
road
is
not
just
on
paper
that
little
driveway
next
door
is
used.
I
use
it
quite
a
bit.
I've
seen
cars
go
it's
since
I've
been
there
for
almost
four
years
now,
I
can
tell
you
that
the
most
I
hear
from
the
church
other
church
bells,
which
I
hope
will
continue.
V
It's
a
sad
reality
that
the
church
couldn't
sustain
itself,
but
that
is
a
reality.
It's
happening
in
many
communities
all
around
when
Gavin
bought
the
the
place.
I
looked
him
up,
I
contacted
him.
I
asked
for
a
tour
I
wanted
to
know.
What's
up
who's,
this
guy
what's
happening
right
next
door
and
he
put
my
mind
at
ease.
I
thought
it
was
a
great
concept.
I
thought
wow.
If
anything's
going
to
happen,
if
it's
not
religious,
Let,
It,
Be,
art,
great
I,
think
it's
great
for
Beacon.
V
V
Just
in
terms
of
the
noise,
the
most
noise
is
from
9d
I,
don't
sit
on
my
front
porch
because
of
the
noise
from
9d
not
from
the
church.
There's
also
constantly
people
walking
by
from
the
train,
so
you
know,
will
an
activity
at
the
church
make
a
big
impact?
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
every
Saturday
and
Sunday,
just
like
main
Street's
busy.
V
My
friend
I
don't
sit
there
because
I
don't
want
people,
you
know
talking
to
me
or
you
know
it
literally
can't
hear
myself
think
so
you
know
if
you
bought
or
are
renting
on
that
strip
right
next
to
the
church.
You
didn't
pick
a
place.
That's
deep!
In
the
woods
you
picked
a
place
on
9d
in
an
urban
area,
so
I
mean
it
kind
of
goes
with
the
territory.
V
I
think
that
you
know
in
terms
of
rationale,
I
think
it's
important,
like
the
previous
gentleman
mentioned,
the
history
of
the
building
and
the
importance
of
preserving
that
history.
It's
been
around
for
160
years.
It's
seen,
communities
come
and
go
and
I
hope
a
hundred
years
from
now
it's
going
to
still
be
there,
and
you
have
right
now:
A
willing,
custodian
who's,
willing
to
maintain
it
and
make
it
nice
and
beautiful
and
create
art
inside
of
that
space.
V
I
think
it'd
be
silly
to
miss
that
opportunity
because
of
a
few
voices,
because
that's
not
representing
the
whole
Community
I
for
one
would
be
happy
to
see
a
venue
there
I'd
be
happy
to
see
jobs
for
people
happening
there,
I
think
it's
a
great
opportunity
and
I
think
you
should
give
it
your
consideration.
Thank
you.
Sorry.
A
W
John
Bono
10,
Stratford,
Avenue
Stratford,
the
I
see
a
pattern
developing
in
this.
You
know
we
first
they
were
talking
about,
there's
going
to
be
a
conference
center
and
this
and
that
and
we've
gone
from
a
conference
center,
which
usually
a
conference
center,
be
operating
five
days
a
week
down
to
two
days
a
week,
I
I
what
I
see
coming
in
my
own
opinion?
Is
it
not
being
a
conference
center?
It's
going
to
end
up
being
in
a
venue
Center,
which
is
going
to
end
up
being
a
nightclub.
W
Okay,
I
think
the
rules
are
going
to
change
after
a
year
or
two
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
stay
at
8,
30
I
think
it's
going
to
end
up
being
10,
30,
11
o'clock
or
whatever
happens,
but
I
just
see
this
pattern
developing
and
as
far
as
the
parking
I
don't
know
what
to
do.
You
know
we
live
on
Stratford
Avenue.
It's
going
to
end
up
being
a
parking
lot,
I'm
sure,
but.
W
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
truth
in
what
everybody
says:
okay,
otherwise
we'd
still
be
five
days
open
for
a
conference
center,
so
we
can
make
money.
You
know
I
mean
that's.
The
whole
name
of
the
game
is
making
money
not
being
open,
it's
it's
dollars
and
cents.
Otherwise,
why
even
have
a
place
open?
Why
even
anybody
go
to
work?
Q
Try
not
to
one
of
the
many
documents
in
tonight's
project
package
is
a
16-page
site
plan
sheet
set
sheet
filled
to
the
brim,
with
detailed
information
that
will
take
a
full-time
professional
team
to
decipher
into
layman's
terms,
even
given
a
full
two
extra
weeks
to
read
and
prepare
for
tonight's
meeting
I
doubt
most
have
read
every
single
word
or
looked
into
every
minute
detail.
I
am
still
opposed
to
this
build
out
like
so
many
who
have
sent
pleading
letters
spoken
out
at
public
hearings.
Q
These
surrounding
neighbors,
along
with
numerous
City
residents
in
Beacon,
do
not
want
to
see
this
large-scale
operation
come
to
fruition
at
this
wrong
location.
It's
good!
You
know
everybody
likes
a
party,
but
not
there.
Even
the
city's
own
consultant.
The
noise
consultancy
continues
to
have
many
issues
that
have
not
been
addressed
with
the
applicant's
sound
mitigation
and
listed
even
more
concerns.
Now,
one
of
the
applicant's
Quick
Fix
solution
is
putting
up
a
major
fence
which
will
block
daylight
skylines
flora
and
fauna,
along
with
the
Beloved
view
of
that
historic
church.
Q
I
think
your
Workshop
tonight
by
Jennifer
hit
the
nail
on
the
head.
When
she
read
section
223-18
special
use
permit
for
those
in
the
room
who
are
not
here,
it
read
the
city,
council
or
planning
board,
May
authorize
the
issuance
of
a
permit,
provided
that
it
shall
find
that
all
the
following
conditions
and
standards
have
been
met.
Q
I'm
trying
to
read
to
fit
into
my
three
minutes
a
the
location
and
size
of
the
use,
the
nature,
hours
and
intensity
of
the
operations
involved
in
or
conducted
in
connection
with
the
size
of
the
site
in
relation
to
it
and
the
location
of
the
site
with
respect
to
the
streets.
Giving
access
to
it
are
such
that
it
will
not
conflict
with
the
appropriate
and
orderly
development
of
the
site
and
the
existed.
Permitted
usage
on
the
adjacent
blocks.
Q
B,
the
location,
nature
and
height
of
the
buildings,
walls
and
fences,
and
the
nature
and
extent
of
the
Landscaping
on
the
site
are
such
that
the
use
will
not
conflict
with
the
existing
permitted
use
on
adjacent
blocks
and
will
not
hinder
or
discourage
the
appropriate,
develop
government
use
of
the
adjacent
land
and
buildings.
C
operations
in
connection
with
any
special
use
will
not
be
more
objectable
to
nearby
Properties
by
reason
of
noise,
fumes,
vibrations
or
other
characteristics
in
Article
5
than
would
be.
The
operations
of
any
permitted
use
not
requiring
a
special
permit.
Q
D
parking
areas
will
be
of
an
adequate
size
for
the
particular
use
and
properly
located
and
suitably
screened
from
adjoining
residential
uses.
The
entrance
and
exit
drives
shall
be
laid
out
so
that
as
to
achieve
maximum
safety
and
use
and
not
cause
unreasonable
traffic
congestion
or
create
a
traffic
Hazard.
Q
If
this
board
is
to
follow
the
city's
own
code,
I
think
this
project
is
a
stretch
at
that
location
like
most
of
these
over
development
projects
that
you're
passing
through
like
Chiclets,
the
city
of
Beacon,
must
stop
giving
applicants
the
right
to
include
our
tax,
paying
public
parking
lots,
spaces
that
are
designated
for
all
residents
and
visitors
of
Beacon
many
who
will
not
be
attending
any
of
these
venues.
Stop
giving
false
hopes
to
these
projects,
as
proposed.
It
still
offers
too
many
negative
impacts
on
the
quality
of
life.
X
Betty
Wall,
eight
River,
Ridge,
Court
and
I
would
also
like
to
say
that
we
do
not
want
signage
on
our
property
for
River,
Ridge.
You've
said
that
and
we
do
not
want
signage
on
our
property
for
over
a
year
and
a
half,
my
husband
and
I
have
been
attending
these
meetings
to
listen
and
voice
our
concerns
about
the
proposed
prophecy
theater
development,
which
would
be
located
directly
next
to
River
Ridge
View
our
home
for
the
past
two
and
a
half
years,
and
where
we
intend
to
live
for
the
foreseeable
future.
X
We
never
expected
that
we
would
need
to
devote
so
much
of
our
time
attending
zoning
and
planning
board
meetings.
Reading
documents
meeting
with
the
applicant,
our
neighbors
city,
council,
Representatives,
the
building
inspector
and
lawyers
just
to
Simply,
retain
our
right
to
the
quiet
enjoyment
of
our
home.
But
we
have
done
that
and
we
will
continue
to
voice
our
concerns
once
again.
X
To
date,
there
have
been
over
350
petition
signatures
and
nearly
200
letters
of
opposition
I
have
stated
my
many
concerns
in
the
letter
that
I
submitted
as
a
resident
and
a
joint
letter
that
I
signed
as
a
representative
of
River
Ridge,
along
with
representatives
of
the
view
and
Hammond
Plaza,
so
I
don't
want
to
be
redundant
tonight.
But
for
the
past
two
months
we
have
been
asking
for
the
applicant
to
please
define
what
an
event
is.
X
Could
there
be
Festival
events
where
he
could
hold
multiple
events
in
a
day,
so,
instead
of
having
150
people
on
the
property,
there
could
be
600
or
more
in
the
course
of
one
day,
we
would
like
the
planning
board
to.
Please
ask
the
applicant
to
answer
this
question
tonight.
He
surely
must
know
if
this
is
part
of
his
vision.
This
is
another
potential
loophole
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
X
X
I
would
just
say
that
the
applicant
and
his
attorneys
have
managed
to
find
many
loopholes
which
have
kept
these
meetings
going
for
over
18
months,
but,
as
we
have
pointed
out,
multiple
sections
of
City,
Zone
and
code
223
18
provide
you
the
ability
to
make
a
positive
declaration
and
allow
the
400
or
so
residents
who
live
in
the
surrounding
area,
the
peaceful
existence
that
they
desire
and
deserve.
Thank
you.
Y
Matt
Bloom
I
live
at
The
View,
which
is
one
of
the
two
adjacent
residential
complexes
that
were
completely
and
utterly
nor
ignored
by
the
the
sound
study.
I
did
submit
a
letter,
so
I'm
not
going
to
read
the
letter
again
I'm
just
going
to
give
some
observations
that
I
came
up
with
tonight.
One
is
the
term
existing
Sam
conditions
right
now
that
equals
peaceful
and
quiet.
So
any
attempt
to
equate
what's
going
on
now
with
what
they're
going
to
bring
is
I
would
say
a
specious
argument:
I've
asked
numerous
times
who's
funding.
Y
This
never
got
an
answer.
Is
it
a
Russian
oligarch?
Is
it
a
local
with
a
conflict
of
interest?
We
still
don't
know.
One
thing
that
struck
me
in
the
last
meeting
was
the
applicant
invoking
their
rights
under
the
secret
process.
I
appreciate
that
that
has
been
done
to
a
team
so
far
and
it's
been
and
we
appreciate
it.
We
are
also
aware
keenly
aware
of
our
legal
rights
as
well
in
this
matter,
and
we
hope
that
you
do
not
approve
this
project
for
all
the
reasons
that
have
been
stated.
Thank
you.
D
A
Z
Austin
Lori
I
live
on
six
Academy
Street,
so
I
can
pretty
much
throw
a
baseball
to
this
venue
and
hit
it
on
the
Fly
pretty
much
for
my
front
porch
and
you
know
in
general,
I
support
this
project.
I
think
it
would
benefit
the
city
of
Beacon
by
providing
our
local
shops
and
businesses
much
seated
hotel
and
event
space,
which
is
kind
of
lacking
in
Beacon
right
now
we
don't
have
many
hotels
at
all
in
the
city
and
I,
don't
think
there's
many
event
spaces
either.
Z
So
I
think
this
will
help
bring
more
people
and
more
out
of
counters
to
Beacon
and
I
kind
of
wonder
what
the
alternative
is.
If
we
don't
convert
it
into
something,
because
the
church
isn't
active
right
now
and
you
know
having
someone
to
come
in
and
take
this
space
and
preserve
it
and
make
it
into
something
useful
that
benefits
the
community
would
benefit.
All
of
us.
It'll
benefit
our
local
businesses
and
and
turn
the
residents
who
enjoy
those
businesses
and
enjoy
the
shops.
A
A
AA
Comments
relate
to
any
materials
that
came
in
after
the
arranged
meeting
from
two
weeks
ago,
so
I
just
wanted
to
flag
that,
while
the
applicant
May
repeatedly
claim
its
background
is
in
the
non-profit,
Arts
world.
This
is
clearly
not
a
501c3
arts
project.
This
is
prophecy
theater
LLC.
So
clearly
the
intention
is
to
create
a
business
that
will
turn
a
profit
by
operating
night
and
day
365
days
a
year.
AA
We
all
know
that
Beacon
has
the
potential
to
become
the
most
thriving
and
beautiful
city
in
Duchess
County,
creating
opportunities
for
all.
We
are
all
in
support
of
that,
but
Beacon's
reputation
could
be
quickly
solid
if
it
sacrifices
its
residential
communities
for
commercial
Enterprises
that
will
destroy
their
quality
of
life.
So
I
make
a
special
plea
that
you
know:
please
don't
kill
our
very
special
and
unique
Golden.
AA
Goose,
primarily
I
wanted
to
question
why
the
view
in
Hammond
Plaza
were
not
considered
in
any
of
the
the
studies
here,
both
at
the
traffic
study
and
the
acoustic
studies.
While
we
sit
at
the
back
of
this
property,
it
does
overlook
us
and
we're
pretty
sure
that
our
quality
of
life
is
going
to
change
significantly.
So
we
would
like
to
be
considered
alongside
West,
End,
Lofts
and
River
Ridge
views.
You
know
we're
just
a
few
feet
from
the
property,
we'll
we'll
experience
the
same
noise
and
disturbance.
AA
You
know
we.
We
appreciate
this
I
noticed
that
the
traffic
and
Safety
Committee
recommended
that
patrons
would
be
encouraged
to
park
on
Beekman
Street.
So
I
was
glad
that
John
Clark
said
that
the
pathway
through
the
cemetery
is
a
potential
nuisance
for
Neighbors,
rather
than
a
necessity
for
parking
and
overflow
I'd
also
flag.
That
Beekman
Street
is
the
only
paid
for
parking
option
in
this
whole
proposal.
So
surely
people
are
going
to
seek
out
the
free
parking
options
that
don't
require
a
walk
up.
AA
The
hill
as
well
so
I
think
that's
something
that
everybody
should
take
into
account
and
really
just
to
finish.
You
know
we're
a
quiet,
residential,
neighborhood
I,
don't
care
that
90
is
there?
We
really
don't
hear
anything,
so
please,
let
us
and
the
wild
animals
that
enjoy
our
Hill
and
graveyard
continue
to
live
in
peace.
It's
all
we
ask.
Thank
you.
AA
A
On
that
yeah
we
appreciate
that
we've
we've
discussed
it
and
you
know
we
do
do
site
visits
when
we
do
as
a
group,
there
are
certain
things
that
we
have
to
be
really
careful
of.
We
can't
act
as
a
body
and
we,
you
know
we
actually
form
a
quorum
when
we
are
more
than
four
of
us,
even
if
we're
sitting
in
a
bar
together
right.
So
we
got
to
be
really
careful
with
that.
There
is
the
option
for
individual
members
to
tour
individually
and
that
sometimes
helps
with
scheduling.
A
AB
AB
Please
and
I
know
the
concern
is
in
what
Manner
does
this
affect
the
neighborhood,
but
I
think
that
for
me
feeling
like
this
property,
which
you
as
a
boarder,
are
overseeing
it's
best
usage
that
if
this
project
does
not
go
through,
then
the
only
viable
option
beyond
that
would
be
converting
it
to
condos,
and
that
would
be
a
travesty.
That
would
be
the
worst
possible
outcome
for
this
building.
AB
It
is
not
being
used
in
its
fullest.
Now
Sunny
Services
there,
it's
nice
to
see
a
service
I
know
some
of
my
neighbors
attend,
but
this
way
it
can
still
be
used
as
a
venue
for
people
to
congregate
together
in
a
community
is
Artistic.
I
know
what
Westin
Lofts
has
was
artists.
Spaces
meant
to
help
subsidize
I
think
its
best
use
would
be
to
be
used
as
a
venue,
so
I'm,
very
favor
in
this
project.
Thank
you.
AC
Hi
Steve
Jaffe,
eight
River,
Ridge
Court.
It's
my
understanding
that
when
River
Ridge
was
being
planned,
it
was
important
that
the
design
worked
very
closely
with
the
church
and
comp
and
complement
it
as
well.
The
Landscaping
was
designed
to
be
open
and
inviting
and
in
fact,
for
the
whole
place
to
be
almost
as
one
you
can't.
If
you
don't
know
where
the
property
line
is
you
really
can't
tell
where
the
property
line
is
I,
also
think
I?
AC
Imagine
the
planning
board
was
supportive
of
that
idea
at
the
time
or
maybe
even
wanted
it
to
happen
to
put
up
a
fence
between
the
two
properties.
We
do
precisely
what
the
city
did
not
want
us
to
do.
It
would
destroy
the
openness
and
the
sense
of
community
that
we
want
and
Beacon
wants,
I
guess
now:
it's
not
an
acoustic
fence
on
the
plans.
It
was
an
acoustic
event.
So
I
guess
that's
not
the
point
anymore,
just
a
little.
AC
Furthermore,
the
applique
applicant
has
owned
this
property
for
two
years
and
in
those
two
years
the
church
building
has
continued
to
deteriorate.
It's
still
an
active
church,
Sunday
their
services
and
there's
lots
of
kids
running
around
on
the
lawn
and
all
that's
great.
Whenever
it's
windy,
the
steeple
loses
shingles.
The
shingles
on
the
seat
on
the
steeple
are
slate
and
we
find
them
embedded
in
the
dirt.
I
mean
it's
like
they're
Spears,
it's
not
safe
there,
particularly
on
a
windy
day.
AC
The
point
that
I'm
trying
to
ring
out
is,
if
there's
no
care
now
after
two
years
for
safety.
Why
should
we
trust
the
applicant
to
be
a
good
Steward
of
the
church
in
the
future
and
to
be
a
good
neighbor?
I,
don't
I
think
this
project?
This
does
not
belong
here.
There's
so
many
issues,
so
many
I
mean
it's
sort
of
like
clear
just
it
doesn't
fit
anyway.
That's
my
feelings
for
tonight
thanks
so
much
for
listening.
Thank.
AD
Good
evening,
Jane
Riley,
Stratford
Avenue,
so
I've
been
listening
to
everything
tonight
and
I.
Understand
that
there's
a
management
plan
and
I'm
concerned
about
who's
actually
going
to
manage
that
and
I
know
that
there's
been
accommodations
but
there's
still
so
many
issues
and
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
comment
on
is
that
we're
going
to
have
a
venue
where
there
is
music
there's
going
to
be
dancing
and
there's
going
to
be
liquor
in
this
small
area
and
I'm.
AE
AD
On
Stratford,
Avenue
I
know
that
there's
a
concern
about
parking,
but
this
is
also
my
neighborhood
I
have
to
contend
with
the
Speeders
on
9d
and
I've
lived
with
that
and
I've
made
phone
calls
and
I.
Don't
really
see
anything
happening.
So,
what's
going
to
make
me
feel
comfortable
that
this
place
is
going
to
be
managed
and
I.
Just
don't
have
that
sense
of
comfort
I'm
not
trying
to
cause
any
problems,
I'm
not
trying
to
to
make
anyone
feel
bad,
but
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
faith
in
this
I,
don't
support
it.
AD
E
AF
Carolina
Willow
I
came
straight
from
work
today,
just
to
voice
another
objection
to
the
proposed
fence
that
was
placed
on
that
map
with
the
last
submission.
I
did
question
it
in
my
letter,
but
now
it
was
just
proven
that
there's
no
acoustic
benefit
so
right
now
it's
just
a
six
foot
barrier
on
my
front
porch.
So
just
an
objection
to
that,
and
also
on
the
map.
It
says
that
it
would
be
on
the
property
line,
but
it's
my
understanding.
It
should
be
within
their
property
line.
D
E
AF
D
AG
Yeah,
my
name
is
Lauren
Walling
and
I
live
at
829,
Walcott,
Avenue
and
I
am
one
of
the
owners
of
the
project
and
I'm,
also
one
of
the
financial
investors
in
the
project
and
there's
so
many
things
that
I
want
to
respond
to.
But
I
have
a
very
short
prepared
statement
and
I
think
that
what
I
want
to
speak
to
is
people
really
knowing
and
understanding
who
we
are
I'm
not
going
to
stand
up
here
and
talk
about
all
of
these
details
because
I
don't
add
much
to
that
conversation.
AG
So
I've
worked
in
the
non-profit
sector
for
24
years,
I've
been
an
art
teacher
for
15
and
an
Arts
administrator
for
nine
at
the
women's
Studio
Workshop
in
Kingston,
New
York,
women's
Studio
Workshop
as
an
artist
residency
program
and
I'm
a
practicing
artist
I'm.
Therefore,
in
the
business
of
creating
an
Arts
community
and
have
spent
decades
creating
artistic
opportunities
for
other
people,
so
I
know
what
I'm
doing.
AG
More
importantly,
I've
lived
in
Beacon
for
19
years,
I
moved
here
shortly
after
dia
and
have
been
here
to
see
all
of
this
change
beginning
in
2005.
My
mother
and
I
ran
one
of
the
only
two
bed
and
breakfasts
in
town
before
Airbnb
even
existed,
and
before
the
roundhouse
and
before
everything
else
that
came.
We
were
part
of
the
newly
invigorated
tourist
movement
here
during
a
time
when
development
in
Beacon
was
just
beginning
to
emerge
in
the
financial
crisis
of
2008
had
Main
Street
business
owners,
Hanging
On
by
a
thread,
small
business
owners.
AG
Like
me,
banded,
together
working
towards
the
collective
Improvement
of
Main
Street
and
the
financial
well-being
of
this
town,
we
paved
the
way
for
the
development
that
came,
we
paved
the
way,
you're
welcome.
The
beacon
we
lived
in
today
that
we
live
in
today
is
much
different
and
the
pain
of
development
exhaustion
is
real.
I
know
this
and
I've
experienced
it
as
I've
watched
all
these
new
three
and
four
story,
buildings
being
built
on
Main
Street
I've
been
part
of
that
process,
not
as
a
builder
or
developer,
but
as
a
community
member.
AG
AG
Church,
for
example,
did
not
do
those
things.
We
have
found
a
highest
and
best
use
and
I
love
that
someone
mentioned
that
earlier
highest
and
best
use
for
an
extremely
large
historic
property.
And
yes,
the
project
will
make
money
because
who
would
ever
take
on
buying
such
a
building
if
it
wouldn't?
Besides
a
non-profit
which,
by
the
way
is
a
business
I,
run
a
non-profit
that
doesn't
pay
taxes
given
its
size,
I
really
want
to
ask
you
what
other
possible
use
could
exist
that
would
support
itself
financially
and
have
a
positive
impact
on
the
community.
AG
AG
No
one's
walking
out
of
here
getting
everything
they
want.
Karen
is
never
going
to
happen
to
your
point
about
the
parking
people
are
going
to
park
there.
That's
what
they're
going
to
do.
We
can
put
a
management
plan
in
place.
It's
going
to
happen
and
John
to
your
point,
you're
raising
questions
you're
saying,
but
what
is
the
pragmatic
reality?
Yes,
there
are
things
that
are
going
to
happen
that
are
outside
of
control,
your
of
our
control.
But
what
else
do
you
expect
to
happen
on
this
site?
AG
Having
said
that
now,
I'm
feeling
kind
of
emotional
I'm?
Sorry,
it's
really
been
a
long.
Few
years
we
hear
you
I,
really
hear
what
you're
saying
and
I
am
I
care
about.
Your
experience
living
here,
I
do
I've
lived
here
a
long
time.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
here:
I'm,
not
a
faceless
person
every
single
month
we're
revising
our
business
plan
and
adapting
what
we
can
to
meet
the
desires
of
the
community
from
day
one
Gavin
Hecker
has
been
present
and
straightforward
with
the
team's
intentions.
AG
He
is
earnest,
sincere
and
very
committed
to
the
project,
and
if
he
or
not,
we
could
have
sold
it
by
now.
He
really
does
care
about
the
community
and
the
neighbors
that
will
be
impacted
most
closely
by
the
project.
Like
me,
he
is
an
Arts
worker
and
knows
how
to
build
community
around
the
Arts.
He
has
worked
with
our
attorney
and
the
City
attorney
to
drastically
reduce
the
occupancy
and
ours.
AG
AH
AH
So
if
we're
starting
on
that
in
terms
of
monitoring
sorry,
so
if
we're
starting
on
that
way,
which
I
don't
know
if
he
has
the
right,
he
has
the
right,
but
it
is
that's
how
we're
starting
out
that
being
said,
everything
Still,
Remains,
confusing
and
based
on
assumptions,
noise
quality,
just
everything
it's
on
assumptions.
We've
been
going
through
this
for
the
past
a
year
and
a
half
and
the
if
you
go
to
his
planning
studies
or
business
model,
the
three
attendants
are
also
the
three
parking
attendants
are
also
cleaning
services.
AH
Whatever
they
are,
they
act
as
like
five
jobs.
Those
three
parking
attendance
I
think
it
is
nice
that
the
traffic
committee
recommends.
You
know
parking
on
ramp
out
or
Stratford
Avenue,
but
how
will
this
be
implemented?
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day?
This
is
what
it's
all
about:
the
local
residents
the
police
are
building
inspectors.
AH
Who
I
did
have
the
pleasure
to
meet
with
our
new
building
inspector
in
a
different
venue
when
it
wasn't,
it
was
more
relaxed
so,
but
it
at
the
end
of
the
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we'll
all
be
responsible
for
this,
and
you
at
this
planning
board
be
more
responsible
because
you'll
be
holding
that
six
month
or
whatever
it's
called
the
quote
posts
monitoring
period,
That's
all
going
to
be
upon
you.
We
as
residents,
have
to
call
and
annoy
everybody
which
is
not
something
we
want
to
do.
AH
Let's
keep
those
who
have
so,
let's
just
keep
those
who
have
passed
and
honor
them.
I
got
I
gotta,
wrap
it
up.
I
got
it
so
I.
Thank
you,
Mr
Clark,
for
that,
because
that's
impossible
to
monitor.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
this
is
going
to
be
more
upon
you,
as
the
boar
and
I,
would
also
like
to
thank
Mr
Palmer
for
pointing
out
one
of
the
most
important
things
about
calamities
and
potential
liabilities,
because
I
forget
in
which
meeting
Mr
Palmer,
you
said
it's
like
you,
can't
always
control
everything.
AH
D
A
B
A
A
L
A
A
G
A
A
B
Well,
we
can
talk
about
that,
so
if
it
is
scheduled
as
a
public
meeting,
it's
a
it's
an
open
public
meeting.
The
only
reason
we
would
do
that
is,
if
there's
going
to
be
substantive
discussions
which
I
would
recommend
against
yep.
But
ultimately
it's
your
choice
on
who
you
allow
onto
your
property.
So.
D
L
A
D
B
A
B
The
board
has
issued
its
secret
determination
and
negative
declaration
and
that
your
last
meeting,
you
did
direct
preparation
of
a
resolution
of
approval
for
the
subdivision,
which,
if
you
recall
at
your
last
meeting,
was
changed
from
a
five
lot
subdivision
to
a
four
law
subdivision.
So
with
the
applicants
materials
tonight
we
have
the
four
lot
subdivision
documented.
B
L
Good
evening,
good
evening,
Mr
chairman,
thank
you,
Miss
gray,
for
taking
my
talking
points.
I
usually
do
that
of
Rea.
So
for
the
record,
Taylor
Palmer,
with
Cuddy
and
fader
on
behalf
of
the
applicant,
we
are
joined
by
Mike
bodendorf,
Hudson,
Land,
Design
and
applicant
Gary,
Joseph,
I,
won't
repeat,
Miss
Gray's
comments,
but
just
to
sort
of
add
a
little
bit
more
flavor
to
that.
Since
we
were
last
before
you
on
the
15th,
we
did
make
a
supplemental
submission.
It
did
include
the
details.
L
There
were
some
comments
at
the
last
meeting
about
our
reduction
because
we
did
it
at
the
last
meeting,
and
now
we've
formally
submitted
our
four
lot
reduction
from
the
five
lot
subdivision.
That
did
combine
two
of
the
lot,
so
it
resulted
in
four
total
lots
that
ranged
in
size
from
0.24
acres
to
0.31
acres,
so
it
makes
them
generally
larger
than
the
consist
the
lots
and
the
surrounding
the
smallest
Lots
in
the
surrounding
area.
We
did
present
that
in
our
February
meeting.
L
So
with
that
we
have,
we
analyzed
in
our
supplemental
solution,
how
the
project
also
further
reduces
any
potential
potential
environmental
impacts.
The
planning
board
attorney
mentioned
that
the
application
had
already
had
a
negative
decoration
under
Seeker,
so
with
that,
unless
the
board
seesfit
or
we
can
certainly
review.
But
no
changes
have
been
made
to
the
site
plan
from
our
from
our
last
meeting
great.
A
F
L
S
Foreign
hi,
everyone
I
know
you
have
another
crazy
long
light.
So
I'll
try
to
be
brief.
The
I
sorry
Jody
mccrito
11
Highland
I
had
a
chance
to
review
the
traffic
and
Safety
Committee
letter
that
they
had
submitted
I'm
kind
of
confused
by
it.
My
house
and
my
neighbor's
house
are
directly
opposite.
These
driveways
I
park
directly
opposite
that
driveway
every
single
day,
my
house
has
a
walkway
that
curves
toward
Grove
and
my
husband
and
I
park
on
either
side
of
that
walkway.
S
So
when
I
park
on
the
Grove
side
of
the
walkway,
I
am
directly
opposite
their
driveway
I,
don't
know
if
any
of
you
live
on
streets
without
sidewalks,
but
because
we
live
on
a
street
without
a
sidewalk.
That
walkway
is
the
only
access
to
my
home.
So
if
I
park,
anyplace
else
and
I
don't
have
access
to
that
walkway
if
it
snows.
If
the
ground
is
Muddy,
I
have
to
walk
over
that
snow.
S
There's
no
other
way
to
get
to
my
home
I
park
in
front
of
that
walkway
to
get
to
my
house
and
and
that's
right,
opposite
the
driveway.
That's
what
I
do
every
single
day!
So
I'm
very
confused
on
how
the
traffic
and
Safety
Committee
is
saying
that
there's
no
parking
there,
when
that's
the
only
place
that
I
ever
Park
and
that
there
would
have
to
continue
to
be
no
parking
there
in
order
to
make
it
safe.
S
So
that's
part
of
it.
I
know
that
I
had
already
sent
you
a
letter
about
the
flag,
Lots
issue,
I'll,
be
honest.
When
this
first
came
up
it
kind
of
triggered
my
anxiety,
I
was
very
upset
about
it.
I
thought,
maybe
I'm
overreacting,
it's
right
across
the
street.
For
me,
it's
a
gorgeous
property,
I've
loved
it
for
a
very
long
time.
S
My
business
is
wide
format,
printing,
so
I
work
with
developers
and
Architects
and
real
estate
attorneys
all
day
long
I've
spoken
to
many
of
my
customers
about
this
project
and
all
of
them
have
just
said.
I
can't
imagine
that
they
would
allow
flag
Lots
in
an
urban
area
on
a
street
that
narrow-
and
that
was
what
kind
of
triggered
my
research
into
flag
lots
and
everything
that
I've
seen
has
basically
said
that
they
really
shouldn't
be
allowed
in
in
an
area
this
size.
S
There's
nothing
in
our
code
about
flag,
Lots
I
know
other
municipalities
have
it
ours.
I
haven't
found
anything
about
it.
You
brought
up
something
at
the
last
public
hearing
which
feels
like
six
years
ago,
but
it
was
like
I,
don't
know
40
minutes
ago,
but
you
mentioned
the
fact
that
the
planning
board
is
behold
into
unintended
consequences
that
don't
necessarily
fall
into
the
purview
of
the
law.
S
Lots
has
easements
over
two
separate
properties
to
get
to
it
and
again,
I
can't
even
imagine
how
any
car
would
get
in
and
out
of
that
driveway
to
there's
no
room
to
turn
around
so
to
back
out
of
that
driveway
around
the
curve,
if
there's
snow
and
like
I
just
don't
understand
how
it's
going
to
work
and
how
it's
going
to
be
safe,
it
doesn't
it's
just
not
making
sense
to
me
so
I
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
of
your
time.
I
know
you
have
a
really
long
meeting.
Thank
you.
A
F
It
has
front
of
John
Street's.
It
makes
the
definitions
of
French
on
the
street
for
our
code.
The
city
actually
does
allow
flying
lots
and
has
in
the
past,
there's
nothing
against
it
in
the
code
other
than
it
has
to
meet
the
lot
with
at
the
flag
portion
of
the
lot
or
the
yeah
the
flag
course
the
big
portion
of
the
flag.
Lot.
F
Yes,
if
you
look
just
south
a
block
or
two
of
Grove
Street,
there's
a
couple
flag,
Lots
in
your
neighborhood
that
have
been
permitted
apparently
in
the
past,
so
there
are
communities
that
don't
like
flag
Lots
because
they
queue
up
multiple
driveways,
that's
the
main
complaint
against
them.
When
you
have
five
or
six
of
them
in
a
row,
you
can
see
where
that
can
get
be
a
problem.
Here.
The
code
allows
common
driveways
it's
a
way
of
minimizing
number
of
driveways,
so
they're
using
that
provision
of
the
code.
A
AI
Looking
at
the
map
of
the
driveways,
my
concern
is
the
driveway
that's
connected
to
Lot,
2
and
3
is
already
existing
there
with
you
know,
you'll
have
to
add
something
to
it,
but
the
driveway
right
next
to
it,
I,
don't
know
how
many
feet
are
in
between
those
two
driveways,
but
that
driveway
appears
to
be
going
to
come
out
right
in
front
of
my
house
which
eliminates
anybody
parking
in
front
of
my
house.
My
question
is
it:
can
that
driveway
be
moved
away
from
my
house?
AI
It's
not
that
far
I
mean
you're
eliminating
at
a
minimum
of
three
parking
spots.
To
begin
with,
with
these
other,
the
additional
two
driveways
I've
lived
there
for
over
35
years,
I
hate
to
think
that
I
couldn't
park
in
front
of
my
own
house
because
of
this
driveway
I,
don't
know
if
that's
possible,
but
I
would
love
that
to
happen.
The
other
thing
is:
what
is
the
construction
going
to
do
to
our
house
houses
as
far
as
you
know,
banging
that
rock?
AI
AE
Good
evening
Patty
galliberta
comazar,
43,
Grove,
Street
I,
didn't
make
it
to
the
last
meeting
you
guys
had
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
Gary.
He
listened,
which
is
what
we
were
here,
asking
him
to
do
when
he
got
rid
of
that.
The
two
houses
together
side
by
side
I
think
it
made
a
huge
difference.
AE
Q
Teresa
Kraft
I'm
still
opposed
to
this
large
subdivision
and
the
loss
of
quality
of
life
for
the
surrounding
neighbors
and
the
quiet,
neighborhood
and
fear.
This
will
set
a
precedent
that
will
run
rampant
throughout
the
city
of
Beacon.
Four
Lots
is
still
too
much
for
this
particular
property.
These
proposed
lots
are
completely
out
of
character
with
the
existing
neighborhood
I.
Don't
live
too
far
from
it,
so
I'll
be
impacted
again.
Q
This
needs
to
go
back
to
our
city
codes,
one
in
particular
States
195-20,
minimum
requirements,
General
standards,
a
the
planning
board
in
consideration,
considering
an
application
for
the
subdivision
of
land
shall
be
guided
by
the
following
considerations
and
standards
which
standards
shall
be
deemed
to
be
the
minimum
requirements
for
the
convenience,
health,
safety
and
Welfare
of
the
city,
one
character
of
land.
It's
Bedrock,
two
preservation
of
natural
features,
extensive
loss
of
Flora
and
Fauna,
three
Conformity
to
City
development
plan
and
official
map.
Q
Private
Road
I
saw
the
fire
chief
report
firsthand,
but
I
do
not
believe
there
is
ample
space
on
that
parcel
to
accommodate
Fire
and
Rescue
Services
as
a
daughter
of
a
lifetime
fireman
I've
seen
plenty,
four
Frontage
unapproved
streets,
extensive,
curb
cuts
and
loss
of
street
parking
for
the
existing
neighborhood
homeowners
should
be
considered.
None
of
these
requirements
have
been
met
by
this
proposal.
Thank
you.
L
If
I
may,
we've
responded
to
many
of
these
comments
that
we've
heard
this
evening.
We
appreciate
the
Public's
input.
We
have
reduced
the
subdivision
down
to
four
Lots
down
from
five.
The
the
flag
lot
discussion
was
one
that
we
looked
at
extensively.
The
driveways
are
generally
located
in
particular
where
the
existing
driveway
is
on
the
site,
but
we've
been
trying
to
be
responsive
to
the
public,
concerns
throughout
the
process
and
have
provided
a
zoning
compliant
and
reduced
subdivision.
The
site
looks
like
Mr:
bodendorf
is
gonna
steal
the
stage
yeah.
AJ
Mike
bodendorf
engineer
for
the
applicant
for
the
record
just
to
address
some
of
the
comments
I
heard
from
the
public
tonight
we're
not
prohibiting
any
parking
across
the
street
and
we're
not
going
to
create
a
situation.
That's
going
to
eliminate
any
parking.
We've
demonstrated
that
the
worst
turning
vehicle
can
turn
into
that
driveway
being
the
the
fire
ladder
truck.
So
that
means
the
ambulances
can
get
in
there.
The
cars
can
get
in
and
out.
AJ
A
A
The
existing
fire
hydrants
in
the
hydrogen
place
also
meet
the
distance
requirements
for
the
2020
fire
code
in
New,
York
state
section,
507.5,
fire
hydrant
systems.
The
existing
and
proposed
new
homes
are
all
within
the
600
foot
distance
requirement
from
a
fire
hydrant
prior
to
applying
for
a
building
permits
for
the
new
and
existing
home.
The
applicant
must
request
911
address
from
Duchess
County
Department
of
Emergency
Response
I'm
sure
you
know
that
so
thank
you,
Bruce
any
other
thoughts
or
questions
around
the
board
as
we
contemplate
a
motion
to
close
the
public
hearing.
K
A
AI
A
AI
S
B
S
In
the
letter
is
that
the
turning
radius
is
okay,
because
there
is
currently
no
parking
permitted
opposite
the
driveway
and
at
the
end
of
the
the
memo
it
says
that,
if
anything
changes
that
there
would
have
to
be
continued,
no
parking
there.
That's
those
were
the
exact
words
in
the
memo
from
the
traffic
and
Safety
Committee.
So
forgive.
A
S
F
D
B
E
B
I
G
I'm
looking
at
the
The
Memo
from
they
dated
February,
8
2023
and
it
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that
there
is
this
weird
language
in
there
it
says
there
is
currently
no
parking
permitted
opposite
this
driveway
and
therefore
the
committee
is
satisfied
that
fire
department
Vehicles,
will
have
adequate
turn
radius
and
ability
to
access
all
homes
in
The
Proposal.
Do
we
need
to
revise.
A
G
Let's
do
so
it's
like
in
three
places
and
it
is
their
closing
sentence.
The
committee
did
wish
to
highlight
the
need
for
continued
no
parking
immediately
across
from
the
middle
driveway
in
The
Proposal
you're,
not
yeah,
you're,
not
hallucinating,
it's
in
here.
Yes,
that
was
okay
yep,
so
we
need
to
just
so
so
through
the
minutes
of
this
meeting,
Amanda
will
capture.
Then
we
are,
you
know,
rejecting
the
conclusions
of
the
February
8th,
2023,
Traffic
Safety
Committee
memo.
A
Okay,
anyway,
we
had
a
motion
on
the
table
to
close
the
public
hearing
and
I
believe
Karen
made.
The
motion.
I'll
accept
his
second
I'll
second,
that
second
by
Len,
all
in
favor,
aye
aye
and
then
again
we
have
in
front
of
us
and
the
draft
resolution
to
adopt
so
I
will
accept
either
a
conversation
around
it
or
otherwise.
A
motion
to
adopt.
G
D
A
Unanimous,
do
we
have
an
eye
all
right?
Thank
you
great.
Thank
you
very
much
good
evening.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay,
we're
going
to
move
to
the
next
item
on
our
agenda.
This
is
a
public
hearing
on
application
for
site
plan.
Number.
Excuse
me:
approval
and
subdivision
approval,
mixed-use,
commercial
and
residential
you're.
Still
here,
393
Fishkill,
Avenue,
397,
Fish
Club.
A
B
On
this
one,
you
have
previous
furthest
to
the
ARB
subcommittee,
and
the
subcommittee
has
issued
this
report
back
to
you.
You
at
the
last
meeting
did
direct
preparation
of
a
secret
negative
declaration
which
you
do
have
before
you
this
evening
and
can
act
upon
that,
but
your
next
step
would
be
to
open
the
public
hearing
on
the
application
itself
and
if
you
feel
that
the
comments
have
been
addressed
to
your
satisfaction,
you
can
close
the
public
hearing
and
the
next
step
would
be
a
direct,
a
resolution.
B
A
A
A
L
Evening,
good
evening,
once
again,
Mr,
chairman
of
the
board,
my
name
is
Taylor
Palmer
I'm,
with
the
law,
firm
of
Cuddy
and
fader
I'm
behalf
of
the
applicant
tonight.
I
am
joined
by
the
project,
architect,
R.A
Siegel,
Mike,
bodendorf
of
Land
Design,
as
well
as
our
traffic
consultant
Rich
d'andrea
of
Collier's
design
engineering,
we're
also
joined
by
the
applicant
Jordan
houg,
as
the
chairman
stated,
as
the
planning
board
attorney
reference.
L
We
are
here
this
evening
to
open,
as
you
just
did,
the
site
plan
and
subdivision
public
hearings
in
connection
with
the
applicants
proposal
to
develop
redevelop
the
premises
for
a
three-story,
mixed-use
commercial
multi-family,
residential
property
located
at
397,
393,
Fishkill,
Avenue
and
seven
Conklin.
So
the
three
different
Lots
as
this
is
the
first
public
hearing.
L
The
premise
is
generally
located
at
the
intersection
of
Fishkill
Avenue
New
York
State,
Route,
52
and
Conklin
Street,
which
are
comprised
of
three
separate
lots
that
are
improved
as
follows:
393
Fishkill
Avenue
is
presently
improved
by
a
one-story
commercial
building.
That's
currently
occupied
by
the
Four
Seasons
sun
room.
That's
that
beautiful
glass
structure.
That's
there,
397
Fishkill
Avenue
is
improved
by
one
story:
mixed-use
building,
that's
occupied
by
the
applicants
present
professional
offices
as
well
as
a
hair
salon
and
then
finally,
seven
conkliness
improved
by
an
existing
two
family
residential
buildings.
L
So
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
demolish
all
those
structures,
including
the
beautiful
Four
Season
sunroom,
which
will
be
available.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
get
rid
of
those
structures
and
then
for
the
background
for
the
public.
This
is
in
the
general
business
district.
The
surrounding
uses
in
the
area
include
commercial
multi-family,
single-family,
residential
developments,
car
dealerships,
auto
repair
shops,
gas
stations
and
other
retail
manufacturing
uses.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
construct
a
zoning
compliant
mixed-use,
building
an
Associated
off-street
parking
on
the
site.
L
The
new
building
program
consists
of
a
three-story
mixed-use
development,
and
that
is
comprised
of
12
apartments
and
3
500
square
feet
of
commercial
space,
both
of
which
are
permitted
in
the
GB
District.
The
proposed
building
will
include
six
apartments
on
both
the
second
and
third
floors
and
then
commercial
space
for
a
mix
of
office
uses
and
Retail.
L
One
of
the
12
units
will
be
a
below
market
rate
unit,
as
is
required
in
the
city's
below
market
rate,
affordable
housing,
local
law,
the
expanding
parking
area
will
be
located
behind
the
new
building
and
it
will
be
accessed
off
of
Conklin.
It'll
include
34
new
parking
spaces,
well,
34
total
parking
spaces.
L
L
AK
AK
AK
AB
AK
K
AK
F
H
Corner
brick
element
on
the
end:
it's
not
really
a
column.
You
know,
I
mean
the.
The
fundamental
problem
is
you're,
making
a
definite
year
on
a
balloon
structure.
Like
sorry,
the
basic
problem
is
you're,
making
you're
putting
a
brick
veneer
on
a
balloon
structure,
and
it's
really
difficult
to
follow
conventional
masonry
detailing
and
composition
right
when
you
do
that,
like
it's
easy
to
sort
of
just
sort
of
turn
the
planet
to
an
elevation
and
then
veneer
it
you
know.
So
if.
H
However,
there's
kind
of
odd
I
think
people
get
an
odd
feeling
when
things
that
aren't
built
in
the
way
that
traditional
brick
is
built
right,
like
you,
would
never
see
a
traditional
building
with
a
corner
Pier
like
that,
it's
very
unconventional
you
might
see
Factory
buildings
but
it'd,
be
reflected
in
part
of
their
the
reason
why
they
were
built.
It
would
reflect
the
fact
that
it
was
open,
Bays
or
large
windows
and
that
sort
of
thing-
and
they
wouldn't
generally
have
a
corner
element
unless
it
was
like
offices,
were
on
the.
AE
H
A
AK
F
F
A
AL
AL
I
realize
things,
change
and
I.
Don't
have
a
problem
with
that
necessarily,
but
if
there
is
one
building
on
all
of
fish
galafinil,
that
is
three
stories
and
that
is
Hedgewood
and
it's
hidden
by
Woods,
if
you're
going
from
Main
Street
towards
Fishkill,
when
you
hit
Delavan
Avenue
and
Mavis
Tire
after
that,
it's
all
Woods.
So,
even
though
we
are
part
of
the
city
of
Beacon,
we
are
more
country
than
Beacon
and
something
this
size
just
doesn't
fit
in
the
neighborhood
aesthetically
speaking
it
doesn't
belong
there.
AL
AL
AL
I
personally
would
not
prefer
deciduous
trees.
I
would
be
very
happy
with
something
along
the
Arborvitae
they
have
several
of
those,
and
I
would
be
willing
to
allow
them
onto
my
property
to
put
a
row
of
zigzag
Arborvitae
along
the
fence
on
my
property,
so
that
there
is
the
six
foot
fence
and
then
eventually
a
green
barrier
for
the
light
and
the
noise.
As
a
buffer
we've
learned
when
Healy
developed
his
Backlot,
we
asked
for
offense
and
Evergreens.
We
got
a
Post
and
Beam
fence
and
white
pine,
which
are
see-through.
AL
Thank
you
and
my
other
concern
would
be
12.
Apartments
means
probably
12
cars.
Meat
Avenue
is
a
one-way
Street.
All
of
those
houses
must
exit
from
Conklin
Street,
along
with
12
more
vehicles.
From
this
one
spot,
along
with
Conklin,
Street
and
part
of
DeSoto
Avenue.
Are
we
going
to
end
up
with
a
traffic
light
there,
or
are
we
just
going
to
sit
there
for
20
30
minutes
trying
to
get
out
onto
Fishkill
Avenue?
A
Even
though
I
understand
Arborvitae
is
considered
gear,
candy
he's
there
and
then
you
know
they
start
to
look
stupid
when
they
get
to
a
certain
height
and
the
deer
only
can
reach
I
just
hate.
Looking
at
that,
but
anyway,
is
there
any
consideration
by
the
applicant
for
a
little
more
dense,
Evergreen,
not
Arborvitae,.
L
Hey
we
have
a
great
Landscape
designer
who
would
be
pleased
to
incorporate
modifications
to
benefit
additional
screening
or
other
betterment
to
the
neighbors.
We
certainly
appreciate
that
we
can
incorporate
that
in
I.
Think
that
would
be
very
much
appropriate.
We've
tried
to
work
that
in,
but
we
can
get
rid
of
the
deer
lollipops
or
supplement
some
type
of.
A
D
L
AM
AL
E
A
E
F
That
would
be
more
like
the
city
and
less
like
you
know
the
town
of
Fishkill
or
someplace
else.
So
this
actually
is
the
the
city's
intent
to
create
buildings
that
are
more
three-dimensional
rather
than
car
dealerships
or
one-story
buildings
with
a
lot
of
cars
and
not
many
buildings.
What
are
you
going
against
car
dealerships?
Q
Theresa
Kraft
I
agree
with
the
height
of
that
building,
I'm
afraid
of
the
light
pollution
that
I'm
also
going
to
see
across
the
creek,
Believe,
It
or
Not.
Heelys
is
pretty
bright
and
I
really
don't
have
much
to
say
as
I
like
to
pick
my
battles,
but
I
want
to
State
on
the
record
that
I
only
wish
that
it
did
not
look
like
the
generic
boxes,
we're
seeing
on
Main,
Street
and
all
throughout
Beacon.
C
C
A
D
F
A
B
Okay,
so
for
this
application,
this
is
before
the
planning
board
as
a
concept
plan
application
that
was
referred
from
the
city
council
to
the
planning
board
for
your
advisory
report
and
recommendation
on
the
concept
plan.
You
are
also
serving
as
lead
Agency
for
secret
purposes.
So
your
tasked
on
this
application
is
to
do
the
secret
review
and
then
issue
an
advisory
report
back
to
the
city
council
on
the
concept
plan.
B
F
F
AK
F
A
D
AK
Really
the
main
change
to
the
site
plan,
so
we
we
I
mean.
First,
we
revised
the
number
of
parking
spaces
from
95
down
to
80..
You
know
with
the
shared
parking
and
then
based
based
on
the
analysis
of
you,
know
the
potential
for
other
people
using
that
facility
from
the
developed
parcel
we're
proposing
to
have
14
Land
Bank
spaces,
yeah.
A
A
D
J
AK
Okay,
okay,
so
we're
wondering
I'm,
you
know
we're
just
trying
to
separate
out
the
seek
Earth
items
yep.
So
so
we
can
go
back
to
the
city
council
and
then
and
then
we're
going
to
be
coming
back
here
for
more
detailed
site
plan
review,
but
I'm
just
you
know,
are
there
specifically
more
secret
items
in
your
list?
Well,
yes,.
J
A
F
A
H
A
B
D
B
D
L
Palmer
Liberty
Street,
with
Cuddy
and
fader
on
behalf
of
the
applicant,
the
owner
of
the
property,
is,
as
the
attorney
mentioned,
is
h-r-sm
LLC,
the
owner
I,
am
joined
by
the
architect,
R.A
Siegel
Mike
bodendorff
of
Hudson
Land
Design,
as
well
as
our
traffic
consultant
Carlito
Holt
of
DTS
Provident.
As
the
chairman
and
the
planning
board
attorney
mentioned,
we
are
before
you
in
connection
with
our
continued
site
plan
review
for
this
application
for
a
three-story
commercial
development
at
536,
Main
Street.
L
The
proposed
building
will
host
a
retail
showroom
for
warp
and
weft
a
custom
designer
and
rug
curation
business
at
the
board's
February
meeting,
which
was
our
first
meeting
before
this
board.
The
board
announced
its
intent
as
the
planet
of
auditory
mentioned
the
service
lead
agency,
which
was
circulated
on
the
22nd.
So
now
the
board
is
serving
for
the
unlisted
action
before
you.
L
Since
our
last
appearance,
we
did
appear
at
the
Architectural
Review
Board
subcommittee,
the
visuals
that
Rea
will
put
up
on
the
screen
for
his
brief
presentation
are
now
reflective
of
of
changes
responsive
to
that
discussion.
That
has
not
yet
been
formally
submitted
to
you
all,
but
will
be
included
in
our
submission
by
this
Friday
see
if
Amanda
was
listening.
L
So
with
that
in
a
moment
all
right,
we'll
address
those
comments
from
the
committee,
but
as
we
included
in
our
letter
to
your
board
dated
February
28th,
we
have
reconsidered
the
building
program
so
that
we
have
a
20-foot
rear
yard
setback
that
wasn't
accounted
for
our
initial,
so
that
results
in
about
14
304
total
gross
square
feet
for
the
building.
We
also
submitted
an
exhibit
that
provided
the
dimensions
of
the
rounding
on-street
parking
areas
that
were
I
previously
identified
in
our
traffic
study
and
again
I.
L
L
This
results
in
99
parking
spaces
available
during
Peak
demand,
which
is
1
30
to
2
PM,
which
exceeds
the
Project's
anticipated
Peak
demands
by
nearly
90
spaces.
As
previously
discussed,
the
application
has
been
designed
to
be
fully
dimensionally
zoning
compliant
with
the
exception,
as
the
planning
board
attorney
mentioned
for
the
commercial
use,
which
is
the
off
street
parking.
The
applicant
respectfully
submits
that
that
90
space
Surplus
available
in
the
area
during
the
Project's
Peak
demand,
as
detailed
in
our
updated
report,
demonstrates
compliance
with
the
requisite
standards
for
the
boards.
L
L
We
would
also
highlight,
of
course,
and
I
believe
he's
on
the
hopefully
still
on
the
zoom,
the
city's
traffic
consultant
incurred
with
our
Consultants
recommendation
or
conclusion
about
the
available
parking
in
the
area
and
that
there's
available
parking
within
the
800
foot
radius
study
to
meet
the
variance-
albeit
it's
not
a
variance
that
we're
seeing
but
the
waiver
being
requested
by
the
applicant
so
with
that
ra.
If
you
can
just
walk
the
board
through
the
changes,
reflective
of
the
ARB
committee
and
then
we'll
have
Carlito
just
touch
on
the
updates
to
his
report.
AK
AK
So
yeah,
so
we
met
with
the
ARB
subcommittee
after
the
last
planning
board
meeting
the
applicant
was
in
on
that
Zoom
meeting
along
with
the
subcommittee
members,
and
we
made
several
changes
to
the
proposed
design.
Based
on
the
discussion
with
the
committee,
we
looked
at
the
vertical
spacing
of
the
windows
on
the
second
and
third
floor
and
modified
the
proportion
there
we
added
Windows
to
both
side.
AK
We
added
breaks
to
the
front
elevation
by
creating
those
projected
piers
at
the
sides,
and
the
upper
Corners
was
detailed
to
include
breaks
in
the
continuous
run
of
the
cornice.
The
the
applicant
is
still
looking
at.
The
corn
is
designed,
so
there
may
be
additional
updates
to
that,
but
that
so
after
meeting
with
the
committee
and
reviewing
what
he
wanted
to
do,
this
is
the
latest
rendering.
H
E
H
Is
it
in
plane
with
the
buildings
to
the
adjacent
to
the
just
to
the
left,
I
guess
and
if
you
extended
that
line,
there's
sort
of
this
disconnect
right
that,
if
you
like,
connected
the
dots
right,
did
you
explore
both
of
those
options
like
basically
connecting
the
the
corner
of
the
building
to
the
left
and
the
right,
so
that
was
the
plane
of
your
facade?
Do
you
see
what
I'm
saying
yeah.
AK
D
H
Pulled
thick
where
you
had
to
right,
yeah
but
I
mean
it.
My
question
is:
if
you
were
pushing
that
out
just
to
capture
as
much
sidewalk
area
as
possible,
it
doesn't
seem
like
it'd,
be
that
beneficial
and
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
it
would
if
you
looked
it
in
three
dimension
and
that
it
wouldn't
seem
like
this
building
was
jutting
out
from
the
adjacent
building
right
from
the
new
building,
the
more
recent
building,
which
might
feel
a
little
awkward.
It's
hard
to
see
it
in
some
of
the
reference
I'm.
H
H
There
was
some
discussion:
there
were
neighbors
that
adjacent
that
were
concerned
about
that
that
the
passageway
between
the
the
existing
building,
where
their
Windows
looking
out
I,
know
it's
compliant.
It's
legal,
but
right
now,
there's
no
view.
There's
no
I
didn't
see
any
images.
I
don't
know.
If
you've
worked
on
that
what
those
people
would
be
now
looking
at
right,
I
mean
they've
and
whether
or
not
that
would
be
a
blank
wall,
because
I
know
functionally
you're.
Putting
these
commercial
uses
right.
Q
H
But
it
seems
like
it
would
be
you'd
both
be
a
good
neighbor
and
also
perhaps
making
more
interesting
looking
thing
that
would
be
part
of
the
public
space,
because
you
would
be
seeing
down
that
Alleyway
right
from
the
sidewalk
right.
That
would
be
part
of
the
presence
of
the
building
because
of
the
offset
of
the
adjacent
buildings.
You
can
see
part
of
it
there.
Oh
there
we
go.
So
are
you
adding?
Are
those
just
the
four
Windows
yeah
and
what's
happening?
The
rest?
Is
there
a
way?
Is
it?
AK
L
H
But
also
since
it's
visible
from
the
street
John
had
brought
up
during
the
ARB
that
there
is,
there
could
be
an
argument
that
every
30
feet
there
should
be
an
articulation
of
that
facade
right.
It
may
not
be
a
literal,
but
I
think
it's
it.
Definitely
in
the
spirit
of
the
the
what
will
be
the
physical
presence
of
this
building
on
the
street
as
part
of
filling
in
you
know
the
gaps
and
contributing
to
that
to
the
the
fabric.
That's
so
important
in
this
town
and
I
think
you
should
think
about
it.
D
K
I
appreciate
the
detail
that
you've
put
into
the
windows
and
I
just
have
to
say:
I,
prefer
the
corners
unarticulated
in
this
building,
because
I
feel
like
if
you're
gonna
articulate
a
change
in
plane,
you
should
make
more
of
it.
But
I,
like
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
buildings
in
this
neighborhood
that
just
have
a
flat,
plane
and
corner
it.
Just
yeah.
A
A
A
A
K
F
F
L
F
AN
Good
evening,
everyone
Carlito
Holt
with
DTS
Provident.
So
if
you
recall,
when
we
initially
present
prepared
our
traffic
and
parking
letter,
we
looked
at
ITE
parking
requirements.
Unfortunately,
for
the
type
of
use
that's
being
proposed
here,
there
isn't
really
comparable
land
use.
So
we
try
to
be
conservative
with
with
a
furniture
store
land
use
which
this
really
isn't.
And
since
that
time
we
had
more
discussions
with
the
applicant
to
really
get
a
better
sense
of
his
operations
and
what
what
he's
determined
is
on
Startup.
AN
They
would
have
three
employees
and
based
upon
the
success
of
the
business
that
could
grow
to
a
maximum
of
six
employees
and
they
do
not
anticipate
more
than
three
customers
at
any
one
time.
The
overwhelming
majority
of
customers
will
be
by
appointment
only
and
if
they
do
get
walk-ins
it's
hot.
The
high
likelihood
is
that
those
walk-ins
are
people
that
are
already
frequenting
the
downtown
area
anyway,
so
they
would
have
been
going
to
other
establishes
to
walk
in
Main
Street.
AN
AN
Also
when
we
initially
prepared
the
a
parking
study
for
the
on-street
parking,
we
used
a
general
Dimension
to
estimate
the
amount
of
on-street
parking
we've
since
taken
a
more
refined,
look
and
and
physically
dimensioned
every
block,
as
well
as
taking
into
account
where
there's
breaks
for
for
for
driveways.
In
the
entry
parking
area
and
and
and
Mr
Palmer
alluded
to
now.
The
parking
account
that
we
initially
estimated
at
375
is
actually
424
and
based
upon
our
survey
that
would
leave
99
spaces
available
during
the
Peak
parking
period
period.
AN
So
we
would
only
be
using
nine
of
those
spaces,
so
there's
another
90..
There
was
also
a
comment
about
other
potential
development
that
may
have
gotten
a
similar
waiver
that
is
not
yet
open.
That
could
contribute
to
that.
The
main
one
being
416,
420,
Main,
Street
and
I
believe
their
parking
study
estimated
a
Peak
parking
demand
of
only
eight
Vehicles.
So,
even
with
the
eight
combined
with
our
project,
there's
still
a
a
a
a
a
buffer,
let's
say
of
close
to
80
spaces
that
would
still
be
available.
AN
AN
N
A
E
T
K
Oh
so
my
question
was
about
the
general
like
intensity
of
parking
needs
because
thinking
down
the
road
he's,
you
know
someone
else's
owns
the
building
and
they
want
to
renovate
it
and
put
apartments
up
on
top.
Does
that
increase
the
parking
density
and
do
we
have
any
means
to
address
that
potential
situate,
like
you
know,
with
the
number
of
apartments
that
they
put
in,
have
to
be
limited
to
the
nine
car
waiver
that
were,
but
you
know
considering
well.
F
AE
F
F
F
L
F
C
There's
three
grounds
that
would
be
pertinent
here
are
going
to
be
complete
awake
parking
requirements,
one
being
sufficient
public
parking
within
800
feet,
another
being
a
professional
Park
and
studying
and
substitutionally
the
same
thing
and
the
third
being,
and
this
appears
that
we
just
a
broad
catch
all
the
application
involved
as
a
designated
historic
property
and
defined
in
chapter
134
of
the
city
code,
which
would
basically
encompass
like
90
of
CMS
right
there.
Wouldn't
it
I
mean
maybe
no.
F
F
Yeah,
so
what
I
I
advise
them
to
do
is
they've
already,
provided
the
800
foot
study,
which
says:
there's
adequate
parking.
I've
suggested
they
beef
that
up
by
saying
this
is
what
our
use
would
require
and
they've
come
up
with
nine
spaces
and
if
they
justify
that,
based
on
other
stores
in
their
portfolio
or
that
are
more
consistent
with
their
type
of
operation
that
beefs
it
up
that
maybe,
instead
of
25
waiver,
you
you're
really
only
talking
about
nine
spaces
that
are
are
really
being
waived
now.
C
C
B
D
F
They,
the
Main
Street
access
committee,
has
also
suggested
ways
to
add
on-street
parking
in
that
neighborhood
on
Verplanck
there's
no
spaces,
you
get
stripe
spaces
there,
not
for
plank
Herbert,
and
if
you
actually
follow
the
Main
Street
access
measurement
codes,
you
could
put
five
spaces
directly
across
the
street
from
this
and
still
have
adequate
Lane
widths
I.
Don't
know
why
they
didn't
do
it
when
they
striped
the
spaces,
but
so
there's
five
spaces
available
right
across
the
street.
F
A
U
A
H
A
D
L
That
would
be
it
Mr
chairman.
Procedurally,
as
the
plain
board
attorney
mentioned,
we
will
be
submitting
to
you
a
landscaping
plan
as
Rea
mentioned,
so
we
will
include
that
so
that,
with
that
and
I
believe
some
lighting
details,
hopefully
we'll
be
at
the
next
meeting,
able
to
set
for
the
board
cities
fit
at
that
time
of
public
hearing,
but
not
for
this
evening,
just
letting
you
know
stay
tuned
but
we'll,
as
already
mentioned,
we're
working
on
it,
and
we
appreciate
all
your
comments.
Great.
A
AJ
AJ
D
AJ
Existing
lot
located
on
the
south
side
of
kenja
street,
the
lot
currently
contains
an
existing
two-family
residential
structure
located
here
and
there's
a
detached
garage
in
the
rear
of
the
property
and
an
old
Foundation
remains.
Those
structures
will
be
demolished
to
allow
for
three
lots
to
be
created
containing
three
residential
structures.
Now
let
me
just
back
up
to
why
we
had
to
withdraw
from
that
first
planning
board
meeting
that
we
were
looking
to
get
on
in
January,
hang
on.
A
AJ
AJ
AJ
J
E
A
D
A
Which
means
you
don't
that's
why
you
mentioned
uncoordinated:
okay,
yeah,
okay,
so
strike
that,
then
you
want
it
uncoordinated.
It
makes
more
sense.
It'll
move
things
along.
Okay,
so
forget
what
I
just
said:
I'm
across
I'm,
going
to
cross
it
out
in
my
notes,
okay
and
then
so
we
could
also,
as
Jennifer
mentioned,
set
of
public
hearing
for
me.
D
D
A
L
L
Yep
yeah,
okay,
with
that.
Thank
you.
Miss
gray,
for
the
record
Taylor
Palmer
with
the
law
firm
of
Cuddy
Invader
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
tonight,
I
am
joined
by
the
project,
architect,
Jacqueline
Tyler
from
Nexus
creative
and
our
traffic
and
parking
Sultan
is
Rich
d'andrea
of
Collier's
engineering
design.
We
are
also
joined
by
the
applicant
who's
here
with
us
this
evening.
Our
project
engineer
is
Mike
morganti
of
Arden
Consulting
Engineers.
L
L
As
the
planning
board
attorney
mentioned,
we
are
before
you
this
evening
in
connection
with
a
new
application
for
site
plan
and
subdivision,
or
lot
merger
approval,
proposing
to
redevelop
the
property
for
a
mixed-use
development
located
at
152,
158
Fishkill
Avenue.
Some
of
you
might
know
the
property
as
the
blue
multi-family
house
and
Double
D's
Auto
before
I
turn
it
over
to
Jacqueline
to
review
the
site
plans.
L
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
quick
background
about
the
property
for
the
benefit
of
the
board
and
then
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
The
applicant's
Proposal,
which
we'll
you'll
see
visually
in
just
a
moment.
As
we
first
discussed
with
City
staff
at
a
pre-submission
meeting
on
January
23rd,
the
property
is
comprised
of
two
lots.
The
158
Fishkill
Avenue
is
about
half
acre
lot.
It's
0.41
acres
is
presently
improved
by
an
automobile,
Detail,
Center
and
then
152
Fishkill
Avenue
is
about
0.59,
acre
property,
and
it's
presently
improved
by
the
blue
multi-family
house.
There.
L
The
applicant
proposes
to
consolidate
these
existing
two
lots
into
one
resultant
lot.
The
premises
is
presently
classified
in
the
T
transitional
zoning
district
and
it
abuts
properties
classified
in
the
rd5,
rd4
and
CMS
districts,
so
notably
the
problem.
The
property
is
not
in
the
city's
historic
district
overlay,
not
in
the
hdlo.
The
property
is
across
from
the
Valero
gas
station.
All
these.
By
the
way
we
have
some
visuals
submitted
in
your
package
and
exhibit
a
will
include
sort
of
the
the
site
layout
where
you
can
see
sort
of
the
existing
street
views
of
the
site.
L
The
existing
curb
cuts
into
the
site
sort
of
the
passageway
behind
the
buildings
along
Main
Street
that
exist.
The
surrounding
areas
also
includes
commercial
multi-family,
which
includes
high
density
multi-family,
residential
at
Hamilton,
Fish
Plaza,
which
is
about
70
plus
or
minus
units
they're
also
townhouse
and
single-family
developments,
gas
stations
and
other
mixed
use.
Retail
office
uses
in
the
area
in
just
a
minute.
L
Jaclyn
will
go
more
specifically
through
the
proposal
at
a
higher
level,
but
the
new
building
program
includes
a
new
mixed-use
building
with
office
space
on
the
first
floor
and
then
16
total
residential
units
on
the
upper
fours,
both
of
which
are
uses
permitted
in
the
T
District
again.
These
are
recently
re
Zone.
These
a
lot
of
these
properties
were
all
of
them
were
PB.
L
What
the
city
used
to
consider
the
parking
District
were
aspirationally
considered
the
parking
District
two
of
the
apartments
will
be
below
market
rate
units,
as
is
required
in
the
workforce
housing
law,
which
requires
a
10
set
aside
for
the
BMR
units.
There
will
be
a
rooftop
Terrace
provided
for
tenants,
as
Rich
will
touch
on
in
just
a
minute.
The
building
will
provide
a
pedestrian
and
vehicular
access
from
fiscal
Avenue
and
it
will
provide
and
I'm
sure
somebody
will
correct
Taylor,
math
62
off
street
parking
spaces.
L
The
project
will
also
allow
for
the
creation
of
five
on-street
spaces,
which
results
from
closing
off
those
existing
curb
Cuts
related
to
the
existing
two
lots,
and
it
is
also
consistent
with
the
Fishkill
Avenue
rehabilitation
project,
which
is
a
proximated
main
street.
We've
discussed
that
in
Prior
applications,
including
the
416
Main
Street
application,
mentioned
at
the
last
presentation.
L
L
The
applicant
is,
as
distinct
from
the
last
application,
which
relates
to
a
waiver
I
think
there
was
a
mention
about
this
application.
Earlier
we
are
seeking.
We
are
going
to
discuss
our
traffic
consultant,
we'll
discuss
the
shared
parking
related
to
the
proposed
office
and
residential
uses,
and
that's
a
different
section
of
the
of
the
zoning
code.
That's
223,
26,
C,
6
and
Rich
we'll
discuss
that
in
just
a
minute
that
relates
to
our
traffic
study
and
shared
parking.
L
So
while
the
project
is
largely
zoning
compliant
due
to
the
site
constraints
and
the
topography
in
the
area,
the
applicant
understands
that
to
minimis
area,
variances
will
be
required
for
this
application
and
that's
specific
to
the
height
of
the
retaining
wall
on
the
west
side
of
the
premises
and
then
either
an
interpretation
or
an
alternative,
a
variance
related
to
how
the
building
height
is
calculated
in
the
zoning
code.
So
those
are
the
two
pieces
of
relief
that
will
be
necessary
here.
L
We
are
an
unlisted
action
for
the
purposes
of
seeker
and
discussing
it
with
the
planning
board
attorney
at
the
board
sees
fit.
We
would
con
would
hope
the
board
would
do
a
coordinated
review
so
as
to
not
do
Seeker
twice
with
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
as
typical
with
this
type
of
applicant.
Excuse
me,
application
with
that.
I
will
turn
it
to
Jacqueline,
please
to
run
through
the
site
plan
and
then
we'll
have
Rich
run
through
the
traffic
and
parking
details.
AM
Thank
you
good
evening
again,
my
name
is
Jacqueline
Tyler
with
Nexus
creative
I
will
walk
through
the
site
plan.
Mr
Palmer
did
a
fantastic
job.
Stealing
all
of
my
lines,
but
I
will
walk
you
through
the
site
plan
itself,
as
he
mentioned,
we're
proposing
a
two
and
a
half
story,
mixed-use
building,
which
we
have
here
on
the
screen.
Now,
with
a
total
of
62
parking
spaces
requesting
to
a
waiver
for
two
of
the
required
64
spaces,
I
want
to
emphasize,
we
did
have
our
pre-application
meeting.
It
was
very
productive.
AM
We
thank
you
for
that
process
that
you
will
have
here
in
Beacon
I
think
we
incorporated
a
number
of
the
items
and
planning
Notions
that
were
discussed,
including
providing
an
accessible
route
from
Fishgill
up
to
the
entrance.
I
want
to
emphasize
the
entrance
to
this
building
will
actually
be
on
the
rear
side.
On
the
parking
lot
side,
that's
where
everybody
will
enter.
We
are
providing
a
secondary
means
of
egress
off
the
off
the
front,
which
is
along
Fishkill
Avenue,
but
again,
most
of
the
traffic
circulation
will
be
along
the
rear
of
property.
AM
That's
in
you
know
we're
emphasizing
that
as
the
main
entrance.
That's
where
everybody's
going
to
be
monitoring
the
entrances
and
the
individual
entrances
to
the
commercial
spaces
will
all
be
along
that
back,
sidewalk,
which
is
covered
by
the
second
floor
above
we
do
have
a
total
of
16
units
actually
flip.
Through
these
we
have
a
total
of
16
units
and,
as
Taylor
mentioned
at
the
top
level,
we
do
have
a
roof
Terrace.
We
have
worked
within
the
area
to
try
to
make
sure
we
actually
have
views.
AM
If
you
I
know,
you
have
the
material
in
front
of
you,
but
if
you
flip
to
the
last
page,
we
do
have
views
that
we're
working
on
Mount
Beacon.
So
that's
something
that
we
want
to
emphasize
here.
The
fact
that
you
can
utilize
that
top
area.
We
know
that
a
large
majority
of
the
site
is
taken
up
by
parking.
So
therefore
we
want
to
provide
some
type
of
I
would
say
amenity
space
for
the
tenants
in
the
space.
AJ
AM
Will
reorient
the
perspective
I'm
just
saying
up
on
this
top
Terrace?
You
are
able
to
see
Mount
Beacon
from
there.
Yes,
we
haven't
studied
that
specific
view.
Yet,
but
up
on
up
on
the
top
Terrace
you'll
be
able
to
see
that
we
did
take
into
account.
We
worked
hard
to
make
sure
that
this
is
a
two
and
a
half
story
building
which
the
building
inspector
did
interpret,
that
that
is
a
that
is
considered
a
two
and
a
half
story.
AM
I
think
our
only
question
is
where
the
grade
is
taken
from
as
Mr
Palmer
mentioned,
so
we'll
be
working
together
with
the
city
on
that
portion.
The
back
view
again,
as
Taylor
mentioned
most
of
the
back
here
is
a
majority
of
the
parking
spaces.
We
do
have
some
retaining
walls
along
the
back
which
we'll
be
seeking
severe
some
variances.
For
here
you
can
see
on
the
bottom
on
the
bottom
of
the
page,
you
can
see
the
heavy
black
line,
that's
indicated
on
the
site
section,
that
is
the
natural
grade
of
the
site.
AM
Currently
so
you'll
see
the
fact
that
the
the
entrance
side
of
the
building
is
actually
placed
at
grade.
So
that's
how
we
ended
up
with
the
positioning
of
the
the
building
itself,
so
we
are
providing
an
on-grade
entrance
at
again
what
we're
kind
of
consider
the
rear.
But
in
our
mind
it
really
is
the
front
of
the
building.
R
R
R
I
will
note
that
the
the
Fishkill
Avenue
teller,
Avenue
rehabilitation
project
does
have
some
modifications
through
this
area
proposed.
One
of
those
is
the
addition
of
a
left
turn
lien
on
Teller
Avenue
Northbound.
At
Main,
Street
there's
also
some
signal:
actuation
upgrades
for
the
Main
Street
traffic
signal
and
the
Verplanck
traffic
signal,
so
those
were
also
accounted
for
in
our
study.
I
think
your
traffic
consultant
can
comment
on
our
study,
but
generally
I
think
they're
they're
in
agreement
with
what
we've
put
together
so
far
on.
E
R
We
did
this
based
on
the
state
code
and
we
referenced
The
Institute
of
Transportation
Engineers
data
for
the
hourly
distribution
of
parking
throughout
the
day,
and
basically,
what
we
found
is
that,
on
a
weekday
we
require
I
believe
it
was
50
parking
spaces
during
the
highest
hour
on
a
Saturday.
If
we
go
strictly
off
the
city
code,
we
needed
60
parking
spaces,
so
we
are
we're,
sat
we're
within
the
range
of
what
we're
providing
on
site
at
62
parking
spaces.
R
Obviously,
on
Saturday,
the
one
thing
the
city
code
doesn't
take
account
for
is
that
the
office
spaces
are
generally
typically
going
to
be
much
less
utilized.
As
far
as
parking
goes,
we
did
look
at
that
as
well,
based
on
the
ite
manual
for
for
the
office
parking
and
that
in
that
scenario
we
actually
reduced
the
Saturday
parking
demand
to
like
to
24
spaces,
so
much
lower
than
we
were
are
providing
on
site
with
all
that
we
are.
L
AF
A
The
parking
requirement
and
I've
got
your
report
up
here,
because
I
can't
remember
the
parking
requirement
by
code
is
64
spaces,
64.
correct,
and
this
this
shared
shared
parking
space
concept,
understanding
that
you've
got
two
disparate
uses.
Just
in
terms
of
the
time
of
day,
would
results
in
your
request
for
or
a
demand
in,
your
thinking
of
52
spaces
is.
R
AJ
A
I
T
A
T
So,
regarding
the
shared
parking
analysis,
we
actually,
we
had
provided
two
comment:
letters.
The
first
was
requesting
that
the
shared
party
analysis
be
done,
and
then
we
came
to
find
that
they
had
prepared
one.
So
we
reviewed
that
their
analysis
uses
the
city
of
Beacon
parking
code
for
determining
the
requirements
and
then
applies
the
time
of
day
distributions
from
ite,
which
is
a
standard
practice
and
provides
a
I
think
a
conservative
analysis
for
their
shared
parking
analysis.
So
we
agree
with
the
findings
that
they
have
I.
T
T
Oh
okay,
so
there
you
go
then
I
think
they'll
they'll
meet
the
anticipated
man,
even
with
their
conservative
analysis
using
the
city
of
Beacon
parking
requirements
and
the
reason
I
say
that
that's
a
conservative
analysis,
because
ite
does
provide
data
on
parking
demand
that
they
could
have
Source
when
conducting
their
analysis,
but
I
think
in
order
to
keep
it.
You
know
considerate
of
the
city
of
Beacon
requirements,
that's
what
they
that's
what
they
used.
T
E
D
L
AI
T
T
Just
didn't
know
how
that
was
accessed.
That
was
in
our
initial
comment
letter
and
then
also
the
consideration
of
the
additional
Ada
space
yeah
other
than
that
I.
Think.
The
only
other
parking
related
comment
we
have
was
including
an
EV
if
they
wanted
to.
We
recommended,
including
EV
charging
spaces.
H
H
A
A
We're
generally
in
the
support
of
I
was
just
I
was
just
talking
to
your
back
there
for
a
second.
It
was
generally
into
support
of
this
shared
parking
idea:
okay,
so
at
the
moment
and
again
board
any
other
questions
for
the
applicant
or
comments,
and
otherwise
John
and
John.
Any
other
highlights
you
want
to
point
out
for
us
or
the
applicant
the
moment.
J
Based
upon
what
was
previously
on
this
site,
we
recommend
an
environmental
site
assessment
we
conducted.
If
one
is
not
and
done,
we
would
recommend
you
know,
given
the
height
of
the
wall,
That's
proposed
in
that
corner
being
17
feet
and
the
amount
of
Earth
disturbance
is
going
to
have
to
be
done
to
install
it.
That's
some
soil
borings
be
conducted
at
this
time
to
see
if
they
can
even
excavate
through
it
or
if
it's
rocking
that
area.
E
J
The
proposed
sidewalks
and
curbs
in
front
of
the
building
they
should
be
coordinated
with
the
current
project
for
Fishkill
Avenue.
That's
currently
out
to
bid
right
now,
you
will
be
looking
to
see
how
the
drainage
is
handled
on
the
site
right
now,
it's
not
shown.
We
would
also
like
a
drainage
analysis
for
the
site.
J
F
E
F
Aisles
and
add
more
Landscaping
in
that
way
as
well.
Okay,
the
I
I
disagree
with
the
front
of
the
building
being
in
the
back.
You
know
pedestrians.
This
is
right
off
Main
Street
pedestrians
are
going
to
walk
to
this
place
from
public
parking
and
wherever
else,
if
they're
shopping,
and
they
want
to
go
to
whatever's
there.
F
The
tenants
will
not
want
to
walk
around
the
building
to
get
in.
It
seems
to
me
you
could
have
an
ADA
Compliant
entrance
in
the
front
if
you
worked
off
the
far
end,
instead
of
the
short
end
where
you
need
steps,
but
you
know:
I
suggested
that
I'm
not
sure
it's
possible,
but
it
seems
to
me
it
should
be,
and
the
front
should
always
be
the
front
of
the
building
and
you
have
an
entrance
there.
You
have
a
door
there.
F
It's
a
common
Lobby
I
understand
where
you
put
the
Ada
parking
but
still
seems
like
you
should
try
to
create
an
ADA
accessible
entrance
to
the
front
of
the
building
where
people
are
most
likely
going
to
want
to
wheel
in
and
the
the
the
proposed
fiscal
Avenue
reconstruction
project
has
the
entrance
to
this.
In
the
wrong
location,
so.
F
There
are
utility
poles
right
in
the
middle
of
the
sidewalk,
so
there's
no
way
to
get
around
them
conveniently
and
the
city
can't,
because
it
would
encroach
on
your
property
to
widen
the
sidewalk.
So
I'm
asking
that
you
consider
widening
providing
configuration
on
your
site
plan
to
allow
for
a
four
foot
clearance
around
that
utility
poles.
That's
something
we
I
remember.
We
asked
on
another
site
plan
and
they
accommodated
us
on
their
property.
So
that's
something
to
think
about.
L
A
A
You
know
as
it
is,
and
it's
it's
a
it's
actually
a
decent
thoroughfare
to
Memorial
Park
so
to
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
that.
I
fully
agree,
and
then
beyond
that,
so
I
would
I.
Would
you
know
urge
you
to
really
consider
that
and
look
at
it
beyond
that?
I
think,
and
we
can
go
into
this
later-
we're
obviously
going
to
refer
you
to
the
ARB
at
some
point,
but
I'll
just
leave
it
there.
There
is
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
around
sort
of
the
aesthetic
of
this
building.
AM
AM
Here
we
were
going
to
have
to
require
a
double
back
ramp
to
get
up
there,
so
we
would
end
up
taking
up
the
entire
what
you
see
as
landscape
area
right
now
between
the
building
and
the
street
Edge,
but
we'll
we'll
look
to
see
if
there's
another
way
to
do
that,
we
thought
it
was
better
to
provide
the
Landscaping
in
front
of
the
building.
But
we're
happy
to
look
at.
A
AM
F
AM
E
AM
A
R
Just
one
clarification:
just
one
clarification
John,
you
remit
talking
about
the
driveway
to
the
property
on
the
fiscal
Rehabilitation
plan.
So
the
way
I
read
that
plan,
and
maybe
we
just
need
to
look
at
it.
A
little
closer
is
that's
the
existing
driveway
to
the
residential
house.
That's
there
so
I
I,
don't
know
that
may
need
to
get
constructed
that
way
and
then
modified
later.
If
the
city
is
going
to
come
through,
I,
don't
know.
J
F
D
D
A
K
G
AN
E
D
K
I
H
L
D
L
Never
seen
them
before
in
my
life
I'm
surprised
they
didn't
pull
Taylor
Palmer
and
asked
to
move
ahead,
but
but
not
that
I'm
trademarking,
but
it's
copyrighted,
but
John,
John
and
I
guess
Mr
chairman.
What
what
would
our
that,
for
your
purposes,
I
know
Amanda's
been
courteous
enough
Thursday
is
that
it's
Friday
would
Friday
be
sufficient.
L
Can
what
we
propose
to
do
is
submit
everything
on
Friday
electronically
and
get
whatever
Amanda
needs
so
to
speak
in
hand,
but
we'll
submit
if
the
war
Z's
fit.
We
would
submit
to
Jennifer
all
the
Jays,
not
including
the
chairman
electronically,
so
we
that
we
have
you
and
Mr
Russo
electronically.
We
could
also
submit
mail
them
directly
to
if
you'd
prefer,
so
that
any
applications
go
to
you
all
and
then
Amanda
gets
her
copies
separately
and
if
that
would
give
us
till
Friday
we'll
give
us
72
hours
to
get
all
these
materials
in
hand.