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From YouTube: Beacon Planning Board 10-12-22
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The City of Beacon Planning Board Meeting from Wednesday, October 12, 2022
A
Let's
kind
of
get
this
party
started
so,
as
everyone
know
we're
supposed
to
start
at
seven
o'clock,
my
mistake:
I
apologize
at
705.
Currently
the
first
part
of
our
planning
board
meeting
is
normally
spent
with
us
having
a
conversation
and
doing
some
training
but
I'd
like
for
us
to
go
into
executive
session
first
and
then,
if
there's
time
remaining
we'll
go
to
training.
Okay,
all
right.
A
D
A
Good
evening
everybody
and
welcome
to
the
October
12th
version
and
planning
board
I'd
like
to
start
with
they
want
to
apologize.
We
ran
a
little
bit
behind
schedule.
I
was
a
little
late.
We
became
a
little
later,
so
I
do
apologize,
so
we're
going
to
try
to
expeditiously
get
through
everything
on
this
agenda.
I
would
ask
the
public
with
respect
to
comments.
A
If
someone
makes
a
comment,
let's
not
duplicate,
duplicate
comments,
because
that
tends
to
drag
this
out
a
little
bit.
We
want
to
hear
from
everybody,
but
respectfully
we
have
a
very
long
agenda.
We
want
everybody
to
have
a
chance
to
speak,
but
the
redundancies
tend
to
kind
of
drag
this
down
a
little
bit,
so
I
would
really
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
so
I'd
like
to
get
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
from
September
motion.
A
A
E
F
B
I
A
G
D
A
D
H
H
J
J
K
We
were
last
before
you
in
August
on
August
9th,
and
then
we
took
a
month
off
to
sort
of
refine
and
adjust
the
proposal
from
the
reduced
development
proposal
to
now
the
further
reduced
development
proposal,
which
Rea
will
touch
on
some
of
those
changes
in
just
a
minute.
The
result
of
that
update,
that's
currently
before
you
and
on
the
screen,
is
a
reduction
or
further
reduced
development
proposal
that
will
now
only
allow
180
total
maximum
attendees.
At
the
event
space.
K
We
did
submit
a
letter
to
your
board
on
October
7th,
of
course,
after
the
submission
deadline,
responsive
to
a
very
recently
received
letter
from
the
former
building
inspector.
With
respect
to
the
parking
determination
for
the
1964
exception,
so
the
application
that's
now
before
the
board
is
a
fully
zoning
compliant
application,
and
that
also
relates
to
the
off
street
parking
requirements.
Based
on
that
particular
exception.
Again,
re
is
going
to
touch
briefly
on
the
minor
site
plan
changes
which
I'll
steal
some
of
his
talking
points
are.
K
The
applicant
himself
will
also
speak
to
some
of
his
Communications
with
Johnny
Property
Owners.
We
have
had
a
chance
to
review
letters
both
for
and
against
the
application
that
are
in
your
record
and
then
Mr
Greeley
will
speak
to
the
updates
again.
The
further
reduction
of
the
total
number
of
attendees
translates,
of
course,
into
a
reduction
of
potential
impacts
for
both
parking
and
traffic.
K
Before
doing
so,
we
did
just
want
to
note
the
revised
proposal
again
has
maximum
event
size
of
180
total.
The
cafe
will
not
be
open
to
the
public
when
there
are
maximum
size.
Events
for
180
total
people,
the
smaller
size,
the
vents
not
to
exceed
130
people,
would
allow
simultaneous
use
with
the
cafe
and
those
two
numbers
work
together,
because
the
maximum
occupancy
of
the
cafe
is
50..
K
So
take
the
two
numbers:
together
you
get
the
180
maximum,
so
this
is
more
than
50
overall
reduction
in
the
total
number
for
attendees
of
the
event
space
from
the
original
proposal
for
the
project,
ra
is
now
going
to
go
over
some
of
the
slight
changes
which
includes
offense
and
some
other
details
that
have
been
requested
by
residents
of
the
views
and
then
an
adjustment
of
some
of
the
parallel
parking
spaces.
There
are
no
other
changes
to
the
hotel
or
other
workings
at
this
time.
It
really
was
just
a
reflection
of
Mr
Buckley's
determination.
K
We
know
that
the
board's
consultant
didn't
have
a
chance
to
review
that,
but
we
did
want
to
present
to
you
all
tonight
so
that
we
might
be
able
to
get
some
other
comments
in
connection
with
the
Seeker
review
to
be
able
to
try
and
really
Tee
It
Up
for
for
November.
So
that
way
we
have
a
full
discussion
there.
So
with
that
understand,
you
have
a
busy
agenda.
I'll
turn
it
to
Rea
just
to
touch
on
those
minor
changes
and
then
we'll
have
Gavin
touch
on
it
and
circle
from
there.
Thank
you,
foreign.
L
F
L
The
parallel
parking
slightly
and
and
shifted
the
angle
reduced
the
driveway
with
slightly
to
be
able
to
create
a
four
foot
wide
sidewalk
along
that
parking
area
that
connects
to
the
sidewalk
behind
the
hotel.
So
so
now
that
there's
a
easier
pedestrian
path
from
that
parallel
parking
area
all
the
way
around.
L
M
Clearly
important.
However,
these
are
existing
systemic
issues
that
are
unrelated
to
an
actual
significant
impact
from
our
current
proposal,
and
the
petition
also
states
that
they're
supportive
of
the
venture
to
improve
the
church.
However,
it
seems
that
any
change
to
them
is
unacceptable
and
that
the
level
of
use
we
see
today
is
all
that
can
be
tolerated.
M
So
what
we
see
today
are
leaky
roofs
and
historic
church
in
need
of
essential
repair,
and
the
current
intensity
of
use
is
nowhere
close
to
achieving
the
level
needed
for
the
funding,
that's
adequate
to
sustain
the
building
or
even
pay
for
utilities.
So
we
see
over
an
acre
of
cemetery
that
has
been
abandoned
and
vandalized
for
close
to
100
years,
and
we
see
a
boarded
up
house
and
Decay.
So
any
proposal
for
this
property
will
require
significant
increase
in
use
from
what
you
see
today,
which
is
currently
almost
non-existent.
M
M
M
M
If
the
event,
if
the
event
space
is
at
maximum
capacity
of
180.,
we
will
keep
all
patrons
and
guests
informed
of
and
up
to
date
on
parking
options
and
conditions
while
actively
incentivizing
alternatives
to
car
transport.
Since
we
have
a
high
occupancy
of
our
on-site
parking
spaces
due
to
the
hotel
shared
event
parking,
our
lot
will
actually
remain
relatively
quiet
during
event
times.
M
So
some
of
the
measures
that
are
being
taken
in
response
to
some
of
these
other
comments
from
the
public
are,
as
Rea
noted,
we.
We
are
now
including
a
a
offense
along
the
property
to
the
cemetery
and
the
parking
lot,
and
that
will
prevent
trespassing
and
pollution
from
headlights
in
our
parking
lot
and
then
the
other
day
we
had
our
landscape
architect.
M
Deborah
adamson's
came
over
to
talk
to
speak
with
one
of
our
neighbors
at
the
River
Ridge
and
explain
to
her
the
the
dense
vegetative
boundary
that
we
had
planned
a
long
time
ago.
In
in
respect
to
their
concerns
about
the
boundary
on
that
side,
other
things
that
we
can
do
are
include
security
cameras
for
increased
safety
and
and
we've
also,
we
removed
an
existing
driveway
and
the
extension
that
was
originally
in
our
plans
to
keep
more
people
Vehicles
away
from
the
River
Ridge
side.
M
So
another
measure
we
can
take
is
at
the
time
of
an
event,
ending
we'll
have
a
security
staff
that
will
Patrol
the
outdoor
area
to
ensure
a
safe
and
orderly
and
quiet
disbursement
of
attendees.
And
then
we
will
have
staff
to
control
event,
traffic
flow
on
our
property
and
ensure
there
are
no
back
backups
I'm
almost
done
here,
but
there
were
so.
M
There
were
a
couple
of
comments
from
a
couple
more
Neighbors
at
River,
River,
Ridge,
Alex,
Campbell
and
Casey
Rogers
were
in
support
of
our
project,
and
they
were
speaking
to
in
particular,
Loadout
noise
and
and
I
I
took
this
to
Heart.
They
have
a
they.
They
have
a
good
point
here,
and
so
we
we
have
the
ability
to
actually
prohibit
what
we're.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
prohibit
the
used
loading
of
trucks
requiring
lift
gates
or
ramps
to
to
before
10
o'clock
on
all
days
and
that
shouldn't
be
a
problem.
M
N
Good
evening
Philip
Greeley,
Collier's
engineering
and
design,
we
prepare
the
traffic
and
parking
information
for
the
project.
Just
a
quick
update,
not
to
repeat,
what's
already
been
said.
We
submitted
a
letter
October
6th,
which
responded
to
the
various
comments
from
your
Consultants
John,
Clark
and
Craig
Manning
and
attached
to
that
letter
was
also
the
updated
traffic
and
parking
management
plan
that
was
put
together
to
deal
with.
You
know,
operations
during
conditions
as
specified
in
the
air
During
certain
events
as
needed.
We
would
provide
shuttles.
N
You
know
for
some
of
the
areas
yeah,
we
identified
all
the
parking
areas
in
the
proximity,
so
that
would
be
an
added
item.
That's
covered
in
the
parking
and
traffic
management
plan.
I
think
the
reduction
you
know
with
the
180
cap
was
addressed
as
well
as
if
the
cat,
that's
with
the
cafe
closed,
if
the
cafe
was
open,
the
cat,
the
cap
would
be
at
1
30..
So
with
that
I
think
we
have
covered
all
the
different
scenarios.
N
We
are
still
waiting
for
comments
back
from
New
York
State
DOT.
We
have
some
striping
modifications
and
other
improvements
we
expected
those.
This
week
we
have
not
received
them
yet,
but
they
should
be
forthcoming
and
we
will
provide
the
board
with
that
information
and
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
O
I
have
spoken
at
other
public
hearings,
but
last
night
I
attended
the
City
Beacon
Workshop
listening
intently
as
they
discussed
the
agenda
line
item
number
one
titled
planning,
Board
review.
The
council
discussed
the
topic
with
the
city's
legal
counsel,
Nick
Ward
Willis,
who
was
on
in
attendance
via
Zoom.
He
just
discussed
the
basic
process
of
law
and
the
role
of
the
planning
board
and
the
preview
that
they
hold
in
their
role
as
members
of
the
planning
board.
O
It's
important
to
note
the
church
at
no
time
used
the
space
12
plus
hours
a
day
or
365
days
a
year,
I
believe,
if
you
listen
closely
to
all
the
key
points
mentioned
during
the
workshop
last
night,
this
project
must
be
scaled
back,
based
on
the
terms
mentioned
by
legal
counsel.
There
are,
in
fact
the
same
concerns
listed
by
the
city
residents
and
the
surrounding
neighbors.
Regarding
this
project.
O
Please
have
this
developer
scale
back
this
project
as
planned,
based
on
law,
quality
of
life,
traffic
noise
and
character
of
this
community.
Regarding
the
over
20
public
comment,
letters
in
tonight's
agenda
is
heartbreaking,
just
because
they
stated
it's
now
at
50
percent
reduction
in
capacity
still
does
not
make
this
a
workable
number
at
the
wrong
location.
O
A
O
B
D
A
Q
Q
My
singular
opposition
to
The
Proposal
is
that
it's
under
capitalized
and
removing
the
opportunity
for
significant
room,
tax
and
generation
of
of
of
commercial
Taxation
and
the
way
I
like
to
look
at
taxation,
I
like
to
look
at
a
perennial
foot
of
Street
and
when
I
do
a
highest
and
best
use
analysis
and
I'm.
Looking
at
what's
the
best
interest
of
the
city
of
Beacon
I,
look
at
how
much
tax
collection
can
be
generated
per
lineal
foot
for
a
choice,
piece
of
property.
Q
Q
I
think
the
city
should
have
some
bravery
and
help
the
developer,
build
something
that
is
twice
the
size
and
that
integrates
the
beauty
of
The
View
with
the
social
structure
of
Main
Street
that
promotes
jobs
and
Commercial
taxation
to
make
a
more
affordable
Community
for
all
the
the
the
land
on
the
the
property
residential
property
owners
in
the
city.
I
think
I've
gone
I'm
only
five
minutes
or
three.
What
is
it?
Q
Q
The
bottom
line
is
it's
a
very
unique
spot,
it's
a
historic
spot.
It
deserves
the
reverence
of
the
satisfactory
amount
of
capital
investment
to
provide
for
the
park
and
to
provide
for
the
Commerce
and
provide
for
the
tax
base
for
the
city
of
Beacon.
So
I
urge
the
the
the
playing
board
to
send
a
little
memo
to
the
city
council
and
say
really.
R
R
Now,
I,
don't
know
if
there's
anybody
here
who
can
address
that
or
not,
but
if
so
I
don't
think
that
the
sale
should
go
through
no
matter
what
I've
heard
I
haven't
heard
anything
I
like
about
this
project.
It
doesn't
fit
it's
too
small
for
this
number
of
people,
180
music
people
coming
and
going
I'm
down
the
road
I
don't
want
to
deal
with
the
Overflow
people,
drinking
cars,
noise
I,
don't
want
it
and
if
it
hasn't
been
sold,
I
hope
it
isn't
sold.
S
Good
evening
Susan
Johnson
Gavin
I
live
over
in
West,
End,
Lofts
I.
Think
it's
a
wonderful
idea.
I
understand
that
the
church
is
a
beautiful
building
and
I
understand
the
concept
that
we
need
to
to
afford
the
utilities
and
the
building
itself,
and
that
could
only
come
with
you
know.
Funding
or
you
know
some
type
of
income
generating
project.
S
I
came
here
with
two
ideas.
One
of
them
was
somebody
mentioned
it
already
about.
The
shuttle
I
think
that
that
should
be
written
in
that
there
should
be
a
shuttle
involved
and
there
should
be
designated
sites
and
the
other
piece
that
I
was
going
to
say
is
that
my
understanding
is
the
hotel
is
going
to
be
30
rooms.
H
E
Alex
rivers
to
Academy
Street
I
live
directly
across
the
street
from
the
Church
last
time.
I
spoke,
there
was
questions
and
uncertainties.
I
was
had
parking.
The
size
I've
seen
that
they've
the
developer
has
gone
through
efforts
to
listen
to
the
community
and
make
reduction
sizes
address.
My
concerns
with
that
180,
in
my
view,
is
a
reasonable
number
for
an
event.
E
Space
I
think
it
can
bring
a
lot
of
culture
and
Community
I'd,
rather
see
the
space
used
where
the
community
has
access
to
see
it,
as
opposed
to
being
taken
over
by
a
developer
who
just
built
into
condos,
and
no
one
has
any
access
to
it,
and
it
just
becomes
about
something
we
get
to
look
at
on.
The
outside
I
feel
like
the
developer
has
gone
through
good
faith
efforts
to
listen
to
everyone
and
I
feel
in
support
of
it.
I
think
that
it
would
be
really
great
for
our
community.
Thank
you.
T
T
I,
don't
know
what
the
if
there's
going
to
be
a
park
or
something
back
there,
but
the
idea
of
having
people
kind
of
walk
around
just
beyond
my
backyard
feels
a
little
weird
beyond
that
I
kind
of
like
the
idea
of
like
an
arts
space
in
the
neighborhood,
the
traffic
and
the
parking
feel
a
little
stressful
and
the
only
other
thing
is.
My
three-year-old
loves
the
church
bell.
So
if
you
can
keep
that
that'd
be
great.
A
U
U
Are
there
any
other
Beacon
businesses
with
those
hours,
six
planning
board
members
who
can
mitigate
or
prevent
something
that
once
approved,
will
be
difficult,
if
not
impossible,
to
Monitor
and
control.
Please
make
sure
that
the
numbers
add
up
and
a
few
people
don't
profit
while
an
entire
city
suffers
the
consequences.
P
D
P
D
P
Words,
the
applicant
has
changed
his
proposal
numerous
times
we
had
a
hotel.
Now
we
have
like
a
cafe
that
doesn't
open.
Who
knows
what
and
I
don't
think
it
was
addressed
he
has.
Is
he
allowed
to
do
weddings
I,
had
a
letter
put
in
applicant
had
a
website
stating
that
he
was
doing
weddings
as
of
August
15.?
P
A
P
P
P
So
as
of
May
26
2022,
the
30
room,
one
employee
hotel
was
31
spaces.
You
either
invent
space,
you
had
10
employees,
slash
vendors
and
if
you
go
to
I'm
sorry
articles
in
in
what
it
states
for
the
hotel
even
to
be
a
Lobel
on
a
historic
site
that
it
needs
to
have
a
a
manager's,
Reception,
Area,
a
manager's
office
and
a
public
bathroom.
P
I
P
A
P
Consultants,
but
this
should
have
been
already
hacked,
but
that's
okay,
I
understand
and
today
earned
today's
revised
provision.
Applicant
still
has
his
one
hotel
with
one
employee,
but
he
has
no
attendees
or
for
traffic
or
Consultants
planning.
There
is
nobody
there.
He
has
no
employees
for
the
event
space
in
terms
of
the
new
callers
engineering.
P
I
I
So,
to
get
to
that
last
item,
would
you
maybe
consider
running
through
for
us
the
staff?
You
know
what
what
are
the
provisions
for
the
staff
parking,
accommodations,
I,
think
that
was
one
of
the
questions
that
were
getting
from
the
public,
so
you
know
obviously
running
a
hotel
and
event.
Space
requires
a
number
of
different
staff
between
the
cafe
the
hotel
manager.
K
Sure,
right
and
I'll
have
I'll.
Have
the
applicant
speak
directly
to
how
Staffing
and
operations
function
I'll
just
quickly
list
out
the
the
other
responses
to
comments
and
then
we'll
jump
to
that
the
the
applicants
do
own
the
property,
there's
no
contingent
contract
on
zoning
approvals,
they're
local
Beacon
residents?
That's
that's
the
answer
to
that
question.
We
have
noted
that
there's
a
change
there
is
there.
K
In
a
previous
meeting
for
the
non-simultaneous
use
concept,
that's
done
current
operations,
it's
currently
a
church
and
as
far
as
the
use
of
the
church,
it
was
brought
up
at
prior
meetings
that,
for
example,
as
a
religious
use,
they
wouldn't
even
be
subject
to
the
noise
ordinances
that
would
otherwise
be
controlled
or
enforced
on
other
commercial
users
such
as
the
applicant.
They
could
be
at
hours
outside
of
the
noise
regulations
there.
It's
a
practice
of
religion,
there's
certain
other
Concepts
here.
You
know,
notably
tonight
when
we
walked
into
the
the
board.
K
You
know
to
City
Hall
across
the
street
at
bank
square
is
having
outdoor
live
performances.
This
is
all
indoor.
There
is
no
outdoor
proposed
here
so,
and
we
also
have
a
noise
study
that
I'll
ask
the
applicant
also
to
speak
to
that
wasn't
presented
earlier
in
our
presentation,
but
before
I
I
think
I
mostly
touched
on
some
of
those,
so
the
current
operations
are
really
it's
a
it's
a
church.
It's
been
operating
that
way
for
hundreds
of
years
and
that's
there.
K
It
was
was
built
well
before
zoning
enacted
in
the
city,
so
with
that
I
will
turn
it
to
Gavin
just
to
talk,
walk
through
the
employee
component,
but
we
can
certainly
also
submit
and
we'll
submit
to
you
in
connection
with
your
secret
review
that
analysis,
so
it's
all
out
and
written
out
for
the
board
for
its
November
meeting
as
well.
Thank
you.
M
All
right
so
typically
for
an
event
of
a
180
capacity,
we
would
have
approximately
well
four
parking.
Attendants
ushers
and
Securities
would
add
up
to
four.
A
house
manager
would
be
one
house
technician,
one
concessions,
three
and
the
invent
organizers
and
presenters,
which
would
be
from
one
to
ten
people,
and
then
we
would
have
a
cafe
staff
that
would
be
typically
four
people
give
or
take
the
you
know,
the
crowd
size
and
what
we
are
doing
with
the
business.
At
the
time.
G
D
M
K
I
Questions
don't
tie
to
employees
and
separate
issues.
I
didn't
want
to
reopen
the
the
question
I
think
because
there
has
been
a
decision
on
a
number
of
spaces
that
are
required,
but
I
think
maybe
just
just
to
clarify.
It
sounds
like
it
sounds.
Like
staff
will
primarily
be
expected
to
find
off-site
parking.
K
There's
a
lot:
the
management
plan
is
designed
and
encompasses
that
and
I
won't
I.
Don't
want
to
we'll
pull
from
that
plan,
which
is
designed
exactly
to
this.
These
specifications
where
people
are
coming
from
when
they're
at
the
peak
arrivals,
who's
going
to
be
directing
traffic
in
and
out
of
the
site,
as
Gavin
mentioned
tonight,
we're
offering
even
further
reductions
for
the
the
loadout
of
any
of
these.
You
know
lar.
K
B
So,
while
the
zoning
issue
has
been
put
to
bed
as
to
whether
or
not
they
need
to
seek
a
variance
and
whether
or
not
their
parking
calculations
are
correct,
this
board
is
is
properly
doing
its
diligence
in
asking
questions
about
where
the
employee
is
going
to
park.
How
is
parking
going
to
be
managed,
because
that
all
relates
to
your?
Not
only
your
secret
review,
but
also
your
special
permit.
K
It
isn't
already
specific,
you
know
it's
contained
within
our
management,
but
we'll
tease
out
that
specific
point,
because
it
to
Ms
Gray's
points.
We
understand
the
distinction
and
and
want
to
ensure
that
the
board
knows
that.
That's
part
of
that
plan
I
mean
that's
an
important
part
of
all
of
it,
but
this
site
is
being
designed
and
and
the
number
of
attendees
being
reduced.
All
of
the
the
numbers
have
been
trending
to
ensure
that
that
there's
adequate
facilities
and
that
have
already
been
provided
now
reports,
but
we'll
pull
that
part
out.
M
K
I,
don't
wanna
confuse
the
board
there,
but
the
180
number
actually
doesn't
utilize
all
of
the.
When
you
take
a
maximum
event
of
180
people,
you
actually
have
a
surplus
of
parking
available
based
on
the
1964
exception,
totally
different
yeah
I,
don't
I'm
not
going
to
go
I'm
not
going
to
go
there
for
tonight.
K
A
W
A
lot
of
my
comments
are
repeats
of
previous
comments,
because
I
don't
think
they've
been
adequately
addressed,
but
I
want
to
the
new
information
that
came
out
in
the
last
submittal
was
the
sound
level
report
and
we
haven't
had
a
lot
of
experience
with
noise
reports
because
of
it's
a
relatively
new
law.
But
as
I
read
the
report,
the
person
who
did
the
analysis
cited
the
wrong
chapter
or
a
section
in
the
report
and
so
I
think
that
has
to
be
looked
at
and
I
think
otherwise.
X
So
I
still
have
outstanding
comments
from
previous
correspondences,
which
the
applicant
needs
to
address,
but
with
regards
to
the
sound
study
that
was
submitted,
I'm
recommending
the
board
look
at
obtaining
consultant
a
sound
consultant
to
review
the
report
review
the
study
that
I
did
and
give
you
feedback
as
to
if
it's
acceptable,
not
acceptable.
What
else
should
be
looked
at
to
ensure
that
we're
looking
at
this
noise
and
the
generation
of
noise
from
the
site.
G
K
Yes
and
I'll-
I'll
steal,
Mr,
grilly's,
talking
point
on
this
front,
but
we
have
been
talking
about
while
the
management
plan
is
there
and
identified
these
Lots
we've
been
accounting
for,
as
Mr
Clark's
pointed
out
many
times
that
these
are
not
may
not
be
forever
lots
and,
of
course,
the
converse
also
being
true,
but
I'm
not
going
to
go
to
that.
But
yes,
we're
also
considering
and
I
guess:
Mr
really
can
speak
more
specifically
to
it,
but
a
post
monitoring
study
that
would
allow
the
operations
to
be
evaluated
post
approval.
K
So
that
way,
you
you
know
what's
operating
in
the
sense
of
the
site
is
is
indeed
how
everything's
functioning.
So
it's
sort
of
a
check
to
the
balance
we're
built
to
the
suspenders
from
from
an
operational
capacity
or
standpoint.
So
that's
another.
On
top
of
you
know
all
the
mitigation
measures
that
we're
proposing
it.
It's
just
a
check
on
how
they
they're
functioning
and
working.
G
Okay,
the
the
other
concern
about
the
noise
I
understand
that
your
report
was
focused
on
the
noise
that
was
generated
from
inside
the
building.
Have
you
looked
at
the
noise
issues
generated
from
outside
the
building
and
what
are
your
measures
for
dealing
with
those,
and
my
last
concern
is
with
the
site
plan
and
the
parking
lot.
What
are
the
efforts
to
screen
the
parking
lot
to
the
north.
K
K
M
And
with
respect
to
your
first
question,
I
I
believe
I
addressed
this.
In
my
opening
comment,
we
will
provide
when,
when
events,
let
out
we'll
provide
a
security
outside
to
make
sure
that
that
happens
peacefully
and
quietly
and
quickly
at
that
level,
and
and
this
this
this
will
typically
be
on
on
a
Friday
or
Saturday
night-
would
be
between
10
and
10
30.
M
and
part
of
part
of
also.
What
I
said
was
that,
since
we
do
have
a
hotel
on
site,
the
the
disbursement
of
people
will
pretty
much
quickly.
Leave
our
area
not
Gather
in
the
parking
lot
to
get
all
their
cars
out,
because
the
cars
that
are
parked
there
will
either
be
Hotel
guests
or
a
handful
of
other
people
that
are
associated
with
the
event
and
there's
not
the
opportunity
to
to
sort
of
hang
out.
M
G
But
you
still
haven't
addressed
the
issue
of
how
are
you
going
to
mitigate
sound
I,
understand
that
you're
trying
to
disperse
crowds,
but
there
will
be
noise
in
that
process?
You
know.
I
I've
never
been
to
an
180
person
event
where
you
know
it's
a
quiet,
leaving
Affair
so
I
just
like
to
know
how
you're
addressing
the
inevitable
noise
that
is
generated
outside
of
the
building
I'm.
G
K
So
typically,
I
mean
I'll,
certainly
defer
to
your
planner
as
well.
I
mean
that
typically
wouldn't
be
an
analysis
that
we
conduct,
because
it's
again
getting
into
the
cars
it's
traveling
between
the
hotel
and
the
event
space
itself,
because
many
of
the
guests
utilizing
the
hotel
will
be
patroning
the
event
space
and
vice
versa.
K
Again,
it's
it's
sort
of
the
ambient
car
and
and
noises
of
the
folks
you
know
entering
exiting.
But
the
idea
is
we're
managing
that
utilizing
staff
to
again
flow.
Not
have
anybody
hang
out
in
the
parking
lot?
That's
not
a
goal
and
certainly
doesn't
serve
this
facility
or
the
operations,
and
that's
why
we
have
a
management
plan
to
direct
those
people
out
and
mostly
keep
the
flow
moving
and
again
reduced
to
those
limited
periods
and
really
on
on
those
weekend.
K
G
Mean
you
just
seem
to
be
saying:
like
people
are
just
going
to
just
you
know,
we're
going
to
disperse
people,
I've
never
been
to
an
event.
If
30
of
your
people,
you
know
150
people,
you
stand
around,
you
chat,
you
discuss
what
just
you
just
participated
in.
You
know
it
I
can't
imagine
you're
just
going
to
want
to
chase
people
off
of
the
property
they're
standing
on
the
front,
lawn
they're
enjoying
themselves.
I.
Think
you
need
to
you
know,
look
at
the
this
issue,
that's
been
raised
and
address
it.
G
Y
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
I
think.
Usually
these
kinds
of
environmental
acoustic
reports
are
done
by
different
kinds
of
Engineers
than
audio
visual
engineers
and
I
I
really
want
to
support
the
idea
of
getting
a
professional
firm
that
understands
the
way
that
Sound
Works
inside
of
buildings,
as
a
and
and
in
in
the
way
that
it
functions
generally
from
wide
experience
and
studying
this
professionally.
K
I
Thanks
so
Gavin,
you
responded
to
the
comment
from
the
public
about
noise
during
Loadout
and
tonight
you
said
that
you
were
looking
closely
at
the
timing
of
different
activities
and
that
you
would
prevent
the
use
I
think
you
said,
of
trucks
with
lift
gates
or
or
ramps
metal
ramps.
You
know
two
before
10
pm
in
the
in
the
management
plan
that
you're
discussing
have
you
been
able
to
collate
all
of
these
different
kind
of
controls
and
procedures
into
a
very
specific
task?
I
I
The
challenges
that's
facing
us
is
that
we
have
a
significant
number
of
constraints
that
have
been
discussed
and
controls
that
have
been
proposed,
but
I
don't
know
if
they're,
all,
if
they're
all
being
captured
in
one
place
and
when
it
comes
time
to
make
decisions
and
and
to
to
vote
on
permits.
It's
just
going
to
be
really
helpful
if
we
can
have
everything
collected
in
one
place
in
a
very
comprehensive
manner.
I
You
know
to
the
to
the
question
of
how
Karen
I
agree
with
you
about.
You
know:
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
in
which
people
move
out
of
events
and
I've
been
to
concerts
at
places
like
Roseland
Ballroom
in
New,
York
City,
where,
after
the
Encore,
the
lights
came
up
almost
instantaneously
in
the
security
staff,
pretty
aggressively
moved
people
out
of
the
space
you
really
weren't,
given
any
time
to
have
another
beer
or
finish
your
drink.
I
They
were
like
forming
a
chain
and
just
moving
you
out
now
that
that
creates
a
certain
kind
of
atmosphere
that
may
not
be
what
everybody
desires
to
have.
You
know
there
are
places
where
you
can
have
one
more
drink
after
the
concert's
over
there
are
places
where
people
wait
outside
by
the
bus,
because
they're
hoping
to
get
an
autograph
or
talk
to
an
artist
and
so
yeah
I
think
you
know.
The
manager
plan
also
needs
to
lay
out
just
how
things
are
going
to
be
closed
out.
I
You
know
and
and
I
still
think,
even
tonight
there
was
a
little
bit
of
ambiguity
about
timing
in
terms
of
when
Loadout
is
happening.
You
said
before
10
for
some
ins,
you
know
for
some
types
of
equipment,
but
then
a
few
minutes
ago
you
made
a
reference
to
10
30
for
something
else
and
I'm.
Just
you
know
it
is.
I
If
people
are
gonna,
if
130
people
are
going
to
be
moving,
for
example,
down
the
path
through
the
cemetery
portion
of
the
property
to
go
to
parking
spaces
at
the
train
station,
it
can
take
20
minutes
for
a
decent
group
of
people
to
win
their
way
down
there
and,
like
you,
said
people
they're,
always
stopping
and
talking
about
the
set
list
or
what
they
heard.
Or
did
you
see
that
Solo
or
whatever
and
it's
gonna,
there's
gonna,
be
conversation
noise
for
some
duration?
I
You
know
after
the
event,
as
people
depart
the
property
and
I
think
the
the
more
that
all
of
this
stuff
is
kind
of
recognized
and
and
just
confronted
head-on.
You
know
laid
out
in
the
description
of
how
things
are
going
to
happen
so
that
you
know
that's
possible
to
identify
the
impacts
and
look
at
how
to
mitigate
them.
The
easier
it's
going
to
be
to
you
know
for
us
to
check
the
boxes
and
and
determine
you
know,
once
we've
got
satisfactory
mitigation
thanks.
A
K
K
Answer
that
now
give
me
a
few
seconds.
So
all
right,
if
you
pull
up
the
trail,
oh
yeah,
I,
guess
you
can
see
it
so
it
as
far
as
the
the
question
where
the
trail
ends
up
I
mean
the
intent
is
we
can
look
at
other
screening
other
options
there.
If
there
is
something
that
that
is
of
concern
to
those
neighboring
Property
Owners,
the
first
we've
heard
of
of
that
side
of
of
concern,
but
the
intent
there
is
not
to
you
know,
congregate
or
otherwise.
K
U
So
people
aren't
going
to
be
getting
into
their
cars,
they're
good
they're,
going
to
be
walking
by
our
property,
walking
by
The
View
walking
by
The
Lofts
and
if
they're
chased
out
of
the
church,
they're
going
to
come,
hang
out
somewhere
else
right
next
door
or
on
the
other
blocks
in
our
neighborhood.
So
that's
what
we're
concerned
about
that
noise
and
that
thank.
Z
P
P
I
Right
now,
this
whole
process
of
of
the
experts
reports
that
have
been
submitted
by
the
applicant,
the
comments
that
have
come
from
the
city's
planner
and
engineer.
That
is
the
Gathering
of
information
to
determine
whether
there's
an
impact.
So
the
objective
is
by
the
end
of
this
process,
including
the
hearing
public
comment
and
considering
that
that
we'll
have
enough
information
to.
AA
E
B
B
No
Final
determinations
on
special
use,
permit
or
site
plan.
There
are
a
number
of
applications
that
the
applicant
has
before
the
board,
and
this
whole
process
that
you've
seen
play
out
is
the
app
is
the
board
doing
its
due
diligence
asking
the
questions
getting
more
information
from
the
applicant,
because,
ultimately,
the
Board
needs
to
determine
whether
there
may
be
a
significant
adverse
environmental
impact
as
a
result
of
the
project
and
then
there's
a
special
use.
B
B
B
R
A
D
B
You're
proposing
a
use,
that's
going
to
be
25
or
more
more
intense
than
the
use
that
existed
in
1964
and
that
comparison
is
made
based
on
the
parking
requirements
in
the
code.
The
1964
parking
requirements
for
the
use
in
existence
at
that
time
versus
the
parking
requirements
of
the
proposed
use,
because
the
applicant
has
reduced
the
scope
of
the
application
over
the
course
of
the
the
you
know.
B
I
G
R
R
It's
my
comments
and
the
other
comment
is
I
agree
with
Clark.
We
shouldn't
be
any
rush
to
push
forward
on
this.
Let's
just
keep
going
through
this
process.
We
have
time
I,
don't
think
you're
going
to
break
ground
in
December,
so
we
have
time
to
go
through
this,
so
let's
just
keep
looking
at
it
find
that
right
number,
it's
not
180..
A
P
A
K
K
One
mention
again
related
to
the
secret
process
is
that
the
state
historic
preservation
office
has
issued
a
no
impact
determination
that
the
project
is
appropriate
and
will
not
have
an
impact
on
historic
or
cultural
resources,
that's
related
to
both
the
church
and
the
cemetery.
So
that
was
one
comment
reflected
there
and
then
weddings
are
a
component,
but
it's
only
a
a
portion
of
the
considered
events
accessory
to
the
hotel
operation.
K
Y
K
It's
not
just
you
know,
coming
to
the
site
and
and
trying
to
to
reinvent
the
wheel,
we're
trying
to
preserve
this
church.
That's
I
know
we
spent
many
months
early
on
explaining
what
what's
going
on
with
the
preservation
efforts
and
how
this
operation
helps
to
ensure
that,
but
the
state
issued
its
letter
and
that's
the
agency
that
refers
and
reviews
it
on
the
state
side
and.
Y
K
Y
Y
Y
K
Y
F
Y
T
A
Y
I
G
B
K
Secretary,
if
I
may
just
jump
in
really
quick
I
didn't
prepare.
We
want
to
say
thank
you,
of
course,
for
all
of
your
time.
On
the
prior
application,
there
is
an
extension
request
later
on,
you're
I
know
Jennifer's.
Looking
at
me,
like
you're
gonna,
kill
me
it's
for
364,
Main,
Street
I
don't
mean
that
if
I
may
just
jump
ahead,
it's
a
90-day
request.
It's
literally
sitting
on
the
Chairman's
desk
and
I
thought
actually
was
going
to
be
available
tonight
for.
K
B
F
P
D
A
H
A
Right,
we're
gonna
move
on
to
item
number,
two
sure
to
remind
three
three:
it's
item
number
three:
continued
public
hearing
for
Seeker
environmental
review
and
application
for
special
use,
permits,
site
plan;
approvement,
subdivision
and
open
public
hearing
on
application
for
special
use,
permit
site
plan
approval
and
subdivision
Marabou
Inns
and
Spa
at
Holland
estate,
Seven
Creek
House
Lane,
submitted
by
I'm
mispronouncing.
This
bear
with
me.
AC
A
AC
We
will
defer
to
you,
we
didn't
know
if
you
wanted
to
go
to
the
public,
the
Seeker
issues
for
the
public
hearing
and
for
a
negative
declaration
when
we
get
into
the
site
plan
we
do
want
to
address.
You
know
several
items
that
came
up
in
the
last
meeting
and
our
architect.
David
Boyce
has
a
presentation
prepared,
but
we
weren't
certain
what
order
you
wanted
to
go
in.
A
G
AC
AC
A
I
H
AD
I
know
it
good
evening
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through
a
little
bit
of
the
site
plan.
In
the
view
shed.
This
is
the
existing
conditions,
image
of
the
site
and
our
overall
site
plan.
This
is
the
site
master
plan
and
we
wanted
to
kind
of
talk
about
the
the
primary
area
here
that
we're
looking
at
right
now
is
phase.
One
is
really
the
the
Mansion
restoration,
the
guest
rooms,
the
associated
parking
for
that
five
cottages
and
the
stabilization
of
some
of
the
historic
buildings
on
site,
an
enlarged
area
of
the
plan.
AD
We've
worked
pretty
hard
on
this
plan.
Hearing
your
comments.
We
built
actually
a
model
that
and
worked
with
our
landscape
architect
who's
here,
to
make
sure
that
the
plantings
are
correct
and
relevant
for
the
about
the
three
to
five
year.
Growth
and
the
images
that
you're
going
to
see
are
from
a
model
and
we'll
show
you
a
transition
from
the
existing
photo
to
that
model.
AD
So
we
have
four
view
sheds
to
talk
about
three
along
ninety
and
one
in
the
in
the
the
the
landscape
area
in
the
back
of
the
Mansion.
These
have
all
been
filed,
but
we
felt
like
it
would
be
important
to
do
kind
of
a
transition
slide
that
illustrates
the
current
View
and
the
transition
to
the
to
the
new
and
what's
important
here
is
you
can
see
that
the
Mansion
doesn't
move.
This
is
a
view
of
the
front
entrance
with
the
new
gates.
These
Gates
have
been
modified.
AD
AE
AD
AD
The
next
view,
further
down,
currently
there's
a
view
that
that
some
of
the
parking
field-
that's
there
is-
is
visible,
a
good
view
of
the
Mansion
good
view
of
both
the
hemlock
as
well
as
another
large
tree.
This
is
our
proposed
View,
and
this
is
representative
of
the
plantings
that
we
have
in
our
landscape
plan.
AD
AC
W
I,
looked
at
the
that
were
just
presented
and
I.
Think
they're
they're,
looking
positive
in
terms
of
blocking
any
parking
views
and
maintaining
views
of
the
Mansion,
so
I
think
they've
done
a
good
job
of
year-round,
providing
screening
for
the
things
you
don't
want
to
see
and
and
open
views
towards
the
existing
views
of
the
Mansion.
The.
D
W
Other
secret
related
things
that
I
I
addressed
were
is
not
clear
on
the
site
plan
and
there's
been
questions
about
wetlands
in
terms
of
a
potential
Trail
along
the
creek
side.
I
I
want
the
flag
Wetlands
to
be
marked
on
the
map
more
clearly.
They
overlapped
they
taper
off
they.
You
know
it's
not
clear
to
me
where
the
wetlands
begin
and
where
the
wetlands
end
on
on
your
sheet
too
existing
conditions.
AC
X
W
AC
We've
had
our
arborist
look
at
it
and
they're
actually
going
to
be
out
there
again
tomorrow
morning,
looking
at
that
and
looking
at
the
Weeping
hemlocks,
which
have
some
concern
in
terms
of
some
infestation
but
yeah,
and
then
when
Colliers
does
the
actual
construction
documents
you
know
for
the
road
widening,
then
that
will
be
addressed.
You
know
so
that
we're
protecting
it,
but
it
is
close.
It's
actually
close
to
the
sidewalk,
yeah
and
everything's
pushing
over
but
and
the
Sidewalk
Ends
up
falling
under
the
tree
canopy.
W
N
D
N
AC
AC
X
So
the
applicant
did
perform
an
inflow
and
infiltration
study
the
site
they
found
what
appears
to
be
a
few
re
roof
leaders
and
a
sump
pump
connected
into
the
system
based
upon
stormwater
events,
a
one-year
storm
you're,
looking
at
almost
26,
500
gallons
worth
of
stormwater
going
into
the
sanitary
Source
collection
system,
larger
storm
events,
a
lot
more
water,
so
basically
they're
going
to
be
disconnecting.
All
of
that,
you
know
if
you
want
a
comparison.
X
AC
Yeah
this
again
I
mean
we're
we're
talking.
I
mean
Seeker
covers
this
phase
that
we're
talking
about
we've
spoken
to
John
about
this
before
we're
certainly
willing
to
consider
the
sidewalk
as
part
of
the
future
developments.
You
know
a
long
Grand,
View,
there's
a
farm,
there's
a
series
of
cottages.
There's
the
you
know:
restoration
of
the
Tyrone
to
school.
AC
X
You
know
I
think
it
should
be
looked
at
this
point
in
time,
because
you're
going
to
have
traffic
going
out
to
Grandview
at
this
point,
you're
going
to
have
a
few
Cottages
there
to
begin
with
and
you're
going
to
have
this
access
out
to
Grandview
so
you're
going
to
have
people
I
mean
I.
It
would
be
my
preference
to
have
everybody
leaving
and
entering
on
Walcott,
oh
yeah,
it's
the.
AF
AF
AC
We're
yeah,
we
won't
generate
any
pedestrian
activity
on
Grandview
as
part
of
the
resort
development.
You
know
that
we're
talking
about
in
the
future
when
the
cluster
of
17
small
Cottages
that
are
on
the
subdivision
parcel
there
might
be,
but
there's
really
you
know
the
only
place
they'll
be
walking
to
is
down
to
the
tie
around
the
school.
AC
So
it's
not
so
the
only
pedestrian
traffic
that's
on
Grandview
right
now
are
people
who
are
walking
on
Grandview
walking
the
dogs.
You
know
it's
the
neighbors,
you
know
to
the
South
we're
open
to
it.
You
know
we
don't
it
doesn't
really
connect
to
what
we're
doing
all
of
our
all
of
our
customers
are
coming
in
by
car
and
they're.
Coming
in
in
the
the
main
driveway,
there
will
be
some
that
you
know,
might
exit
or
enter
along
mirbeau
Lane
out
to
Grandview.
AC
We
are
actually
going
to
put
signage
that
says
no
commercial
vehicles,
so
we'll
we'll
limit
that
and
there's
you
know
five
Cottages
that
are
part
of
this.
This
phase
right
here
those
people
might
be
driving
out
there,
there's
really
there's
kind
of
nowhere
to
walk
to.
You
know
from
the
property
right.
AF
I
think
I
think
what
the
board
is
getting
at
is
that
you've
done
a
good
job.
You've
done
a
great
job
at
looking
at
the
full,
build
out
of
the
project
and
I.
Don't
think
you're
incorrect
in
thinking
that
there
won't
be
pedestrians
using
that
sidewalk
now
with
that
was
going
to
be
built
now
in
your
first
phase,
but
that
it
could
be
potentially
used
in
the
full
build
app
build
out.
So
the
investigation
now
could
be
beneficial
to
the
board's
understanding
of
how
Graham
you
could
act
as
a
pedestrian
walkway
for
the
project.
AC
Yeah
yeah
again,
you
know
we're
we're
willing
to
consider
it.
I
mean
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
saying
no,
we
just
it's
just
it
would
be
more
part
of
a
future
phase
where
we'll
be
in
front
of
you
again
for
a
site
plan
approval
for
the
cluster
of
cottages.
You
know
tyronda
whatever
we
do.
You
know
down
at
the
time
at
the
school
but
yeah
to
to
have
that
part
of
this
right
now,
I'm
I'm,
just
you
know
not
sure
I
mean
yeah.
What
what
does
the
board
want?
Yeah.
X
So
basically,
we
were
looking
at
your
generating
traffic
from
the
site.
I
understand.
When
you
have
phase
two
and
the
additional
Cottages
there,
you
may
generate
more
pedestrian
traffic
to
walk
down
to
the
school,
but
even
during
phase
one
you're
going
to
be
generating
more
trip
traffic,
that's
going
to
be
going
out
to
Grandview
and,
as
you
said,
there
are
pedestrians,
walking
their
dogs
up
and
down
the
road,
so
you're
putting
more
Veil
vehicle
you're.
Can
you
say
it
more
vehicles
on
the
road?
X
You
know
so
there's
a
concern,
as
you
heard,
from
the
residents
with
regards
to
their
safety.
You
know
so
the
it
needs
to
be
looked
at
what
can
be
done
now
to
protect
those
pedestrians
that
are
walking
there.
I
understand
you're,
not
having
more
pedestrians
at
this
point
in
the
future
you
will,
but
you
are
putting
more
traffic
or
Vehicles
onto
that
Side
Road.
AD
One
of
the
things
that
we
had
in
the
back
of
the
presentation
that
we
wanted
to
show
you
was
a
revised
plan
for
our
driveways
to
manage
the
traffic
to
Grandview
on
a
mirbo
lane.
A
couple
things
that
we're
doing
here
are
we're
changing
the
paving
material
at
that
road,
so
that
the
main
road
flows
traffic
into
the
parking
we've
got
an
idea
of
putting
cobbles
or
something
to
to
kind
of
discourage
people
from
turning
down
mirbo,
Lane
and
being
confused
about
where
to
go.
J
AD
A
A
B
Z
D
Q
Q
In
return
for
granting
special
uses
and
these
kinds
of
things,
I,
I,
I
I
have
seen
this
discussion
over
the
years
and
more
often
than
not
not
criticism,
but
more
often
than
not
I
think
it's.
The
board's
position
has
been
rather
timid
to
require,
you
know,
engage
in
in
a
bartering
to
for
a
product
that
is
perhaps
best
for
the
city.
I
mean
we.
Here
we
have
a
national
landmark.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
That
kind
of,
like
morphs
in
the
political,
vicissitudes
and
changes
that
occur
over
time
be
firm
and
I
believe
that
these
people
will
deliver
a
product
that
we
can
all
recognize
with
long-term
certainty
that
it's
a
genuine
tax,
hotel
tax,
commercial
tax,
generating
epicenter
for
the
hospitality
industry
and
Beacon
that
we
all
could
be
proud
of,
but
be
clear
on,
what's
really
being
allowed.
Thank
you
thank.
AG
In
addition
to
that,
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
our
desire
to
keep
an
option
for
a
public
Trail
across
the
property
open
and
to
engage
in
further
conversation
with
the
applicant.
With
that
goal
in
mind,
the
mayor
and
City
administrator
have
taken
the
lead
in
communication
with
the
applicant,
so
I
don't
know
further
details
about
their
intent
at
this
time,
but
I
will
be
meeting
with
them
on
Friday,
and
that
will
be
on
our
agenda
from
what
the
mayor
told
me.
AG
The
applicant
offered
to
walk
the
trail
to
review
opportunities
and
challenges
of
a
trail
along
the
sewer
easement
that
came
up
in
September's
meeting
I.
Think
a
sitewalk
is
a
great
idea
and
would
undoubted
and
and
would
undoubtedly
lead
to
further
productive
conversations
about
how
the
goals
of
the
city
May
mesh
with
the
goals
of
the
applicant
regardless.
It
has
been
the
experience
of
the
committee
that
any
such
conversations
will
evolve
over
time
at
this
point,
I
don't
know
if
or
how
our
desire
for
dialogue
impacts
the
proceedings
of
this
board.
AG
Z
Okay,
well
on
the
subject
of
the
The
Greenway
Trail
I
encourage
the
applicant
to
pursue
that
as
if
nothing
else,
an
amenity
to
be
included
with
the
experience
of
your
guests
that
it
it
fits
in
nicely
with
the
whole,
the
very
strong
natural
approach
that
you
have
to
the
landscape
and
the
experience
there
I
think
and
the
water
that
you
have
all
these
water
features.
There's
nothing
like
walking
along
flowing
water,
observing
that
in
the
falls
and
everything
so
that'd
be
great.
I
Y
Yeah
I'd
just
like
to
reiterate
and
thank
the
greenway
Trail
committee
for
all
the
work
they've
done
over
the
years
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
in
Beacon
and
I.
Think
that
we
have
we,
if
we
can
do
things
to
assist
improving
pedestrian
connectivity
with
these
Trails,
which
everybody
appreciates
and
are
get
heavily
used
in
this
town.
F
G
G
You
know,
but
I
think
short
of
a
gate.
You
know
people
if
someone
wants
to
drive
that
way.
You
know
unless
perhaps
the
cones
are
there,
they
will
so
I
would
encourage
I
agree
with
John,
Russo
and
I
would
encourage
the
the
sidewalk
to
be
considered
at
this
stage
of
the
game
and
then
on
a
minor
issue
with
one
of
the
views.
Could
you
go
to
the
second
view
from
9d
this?
The
southern
view
on
90.
G
AH
I
I,
just
Dan
Leary
attorney
for
the
applicant
I,
just
wanted
to
say
that
almost
everything
I
heard
tonight
with
comments
regard
future
phases
and
I
would
just
want
to
respectfully
remind
the
board
that
those
will
have
to
go
through
a
site-specific
process
when
and
if
we
have
a
design
for
them.
They
were
put
in
as
conceptual
plans
as
part
of
the
request.
AH
You
know
by
the
board,
as
lead
Agency
on
the
council,
just
to
show
what
could
possibly
take
place
there
so
in
in
terms
of
the
walking
trails,
the
sidewalk,
the
phase
that
would
take
place
down,
Grandview
Avenue,
that
all
has
to
come
back
for
a
subsequent
review,
which
would
have
an
Associated
secret
review.
So
we're
not
we're
not
really
seeing
these
as
immediate
issues
for
sequel
right
now.
B
Yeah
so
I
I
agree.
However,
I
think
that
you
know,
as
the
board
explains
you
know,
their
comments
tonight
with
respect
to
the
walkway
on
Grandview
I.
Think
we've
heard
from
the
cons,
the
boards
consultants
and
the
board
itself
that
that
walkway
on
Grandview
is
an
important
component
of
the
site
planning
issues
for
phase
one
because
of
that
access
onto
Grandview
and
the
fact
that
there
will
be
additional
vehicular
traffic
on
Grandview.
We've
heard
testimony
from
the
public
that
it's
highly
used
by
pedestrians
currently
and
to
add
additional
traffic
just
adds
you
know
additional
risk.
B
B
Yes,
they
are
included
in
your
secret
review
on
the
Cottages,
the
the
garden,
those
phase,
two
elements
on
a
conceptual
level,
so
the
applicant
has
represented
that
they
don't
have
any
concrete,
definitive
plans
for
those
future
phases
at
this
time,
but
that
they
are
included
in
your
secret
review.
At
a
you
know,
conceptual
generic
level,
so
that
we
can,
you
know
so
we
don't
run
afoul
if
the
secrets
mandate
against
segmentation.
D
A
AC
The
gentleman
was
talking
about
segmentation.
Every
single
submission
we've
had
has
shown
you
the
whole
picture,
so
there
is
no
segmentation.
If
we
hadn't
shown
you,
then
there
would
be
segmentation.
These
are
all
rentals.
You
know,
there's
no
ownership.
We've
clarified
that
before
this
is
all
part
of
the
hospitality
use,
everybody
will
be
one
of
our
guests,
no
matter
what
dwelling
they're
in
on
the
property.
There's
no
ownership.
No
time
shares.
You
know
nothing
like
that.
These.
I
AC
AC
You
know:
Carolyn
Coppola,
as
her
name
and
she's,
going
through
the
whole
review
process
with
shippo
and
I,
think
it
ties
in
the
National
Park
Service
as
well
in
some
respect,
yeah
another
thing
with
the
The
Greenway
Trail
I
did
you
know
this
was
before
our
last
meeting
here.
I
met
with
the
mayor
and
the
city
administrator
I
offered
to
walk
the
site
with
them
to
look
at
the
challenges,
not
the
opportunities
okay,
but
we
are
willing
to
consider
you
know
continuing
that
dialogue.
AC
We
we
have
a
slide
which
we
should
share
with
you,
showing
the
challenges
I
mean
this
is
it's
in
the
wetlands
there's
archaeological
sites
which
you
can't
you
know
dig
into
there's
ownership
issues
north
of
our
property
off
of
off
of
the
property.
There's
been
no
discussions
with
the
city
and
any
of
those
five
Property
Owners.
There's
three
private
residences
and
a
couple
commercial
properties.
AC
You
can
see
the
the
red
dashed
line.
That's
the
sewer
line,
it's
you
know
it
crosses
wetlands
and
it
crosses
you
know
it
crosses
archaeological
sites.
So
there
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
challenges
you
know
with
with
anything
on
our
side
of
the
river.
The
west
side
of
the
river
already
has
a
Greenway
Trail
already
has
agreements
of
property
owners.
AC
It's
already
part
of
the
zoning
designation
on
the
west
side
of
the
river,
and
since
the
mayor
brought
this
up
to
the
greenway
Trail
committee
a
few
years
ago
now
the
railroad
line
is
going
to
be
abandoned,
so
there's
another
opportunity
for
a
trail
and
anything
coming
through
our
site.
You
know
there's,
like
I,
said
before,
there's
a
liability
issue
and
it
doesn't
really
connect
with
anything
because
there's
nothing
to
the
north,
that's
under
agreement
and
to
the
South.
AC
You
know,
I
guess
you
could
potentially
end
up
at
Grandview,
but
it
doesn't
you
know,
but
again
it
goes
back
to
the
bridge,
so
we're
willing
to
continue
the
conversation
yeah
and
then
the
Landscaping
across
along
the
driveway.
We
went
through
this.
What
John
we
had
Landscaping
that
we
removed,
because
that
Landscaping
was
moderate
in
size
and
it
would
have
blocked
the
view
of
the
of
the
Mansion.
So
you
know
we
could
put
short
bushes
in,
but
you
know
we're
open
to
that.
AC
We
can
add
load
Landscaping
yeah.
We
can
do
all
the
Landscaping
one
where
Don
Johnson
inspected
and
if
he
wants
more
we'll
put
more
in
yeah,
and
you
could
do
that
prior
to
the
CL
being
issued
yeah.
We're
we've
done
that
before
we're
willing
to
do
that
with
the
sidewalk
on
Grandview.
I'll
commit
right
now
that
we'll
build
a
sidewalk
on
Grandview
down
to
the
corner
of
South
Ave.
When
you
get
past
South
Ave,
it
doesn't
really
go
anywhere.
AC
It
would
pick
up
all
the
neighbors
that
you
know
are
on
the
south
side
of
Grandview
and
I
I,
can't
think
of
the
name
of
the
street
that
comes
off
of
Granville
at
the
intersection
of
South
Ave.
But
you
know:
that's
where
the
south
gate
house
is
is
right
down
by
the
intersection.
So
we
can,
you
know
we'll.
We
will
commit
to
building
that
portion
of
it
like
right
now.
AC
You
know
to
address
any
impact
of
a
Seeker
if
that's
fair
enough
and
then
I
guess
during
future
phases,
with
the
tie
around
to
school
or
with
the
development
of
the
cluster
of
cottages,
and
we
can
look
at
the
rest
of
it
and
it
kind
of
you
know
goes
back
to
the
question.
What's
going
to
happen
with
the
bridge,
you
know,
because
that
sidewalk
would
really
go
nowhere.
B
So
you
have
before
you
a
draft
of
the
part
two,
which
is
the
eif
part
that
you
can
use
as
your
tool
to
assess
the
significance
of
the
relevant
impacts,
so
that
was
distributed
to
you
for
your
last
meeting.
You
also
have
before
you
a
draft
of
the
part
three,
which
is
the
determination
of
significance
and
it's
been
filled
out
as
a
negative
declaration,
meaning
there's
no
significant
adverse
environmental
impacts
and
it
has
the
attachment
with
the
reasoning
which
goes
through
the
information
that's
been
submitted
to
you
and
the
record.
B
B
We
do
make
a
statement
in
here
that
some
of
those
some
of
the
buildings
that
still
remain
are
to
be
preserved
in
the
proposed
condition
and
we
have
in
there
now
the
the
tie
around
the
Craig
house,
sanitarium,
which
I
understand
based
on
the
Harkin
report,
is
the
mansion
building
the
south
gate
house
and
the
school,
but
I
think
also
the
North
Gate
House
is
proposed.
To
remain
is
that
accurate.
AC
Yeah,
the
north
gate
house
is
not
that
was
never
the
Gatehouse.
The
north
gate
house
was
actually
along
the
property
line
at
the
far
north
there's,
actually
a
land
bridge
that
goes
over
it.
That's
the
Bennett
Cottage,
but
that
was
included
in
the
Harkin
report.
That's,
but
that's
not
the
north
gate
house
I.
B
AC
Are
going
to
be
preserved,
I
think
that's
the
point
that
we're
trying
to
right,
and
that's
one
thing,
our
that
our
historic
architect
is
looking
at,
is
that
Bennett
Cottage
I
mean
what
is
it?
What
was
it?
You
know,
we
don't
even
know
when
it
was
built.
It
just
appeared
in
a
plan
one
year,
but
but
the
other,
the
other
structures
that
are
included
in
that
report
between
2009
and
2013.
They
were
either
demolished
or
they
deteriorated.
It
had
to
be
turned
down
because
of
safety.
So.
AC
G
G
E
I
AC
And
related
to
the
site
plan,
I'll
call
up
David
again
and
there
was
just
some
issues.
You
know
some
neighbors
neighbors
made
comments.
Phil
spoke
with
with
Creighton
Manning
today
about
their
comment
letter
with
left-hand
turn
southbound
to
go
into
the
settlement
camp
and
also
the
crosswalk,
but
I.
Guess
we
can
pull
up.
You
know
David,
do
you
want
to
address
the
crosswalk
slide?
AC
AC
There's
some
speed
issues.
There
are
some
sight
line
issues
there's
going
to
be
all
of
the
cross,
hatching
and
and
striping
for
the
left-hand
turn
so
to
introduce
a
crosswalk
in
the
middle
of
all
that
Colliers
looked
at
this
thought
it
was
dangerous.
We
looked
at
north
of
it
across
from
the
Bennett
Cottage
you're,
going
through
you're,
going
through
some
more
striping,
but
you
kind
of
end
up
in
a
ditch.
There's
really
it
doesn't
go
anywhere.
AC
There's
no
sidewalk
on
the
east
side
of
of
9d,
so
the
yellow
little
rectangle
at
the
north
is
actually
the
north
entrance
into
the
settlement
camp,
and
that
has
signage
that
says
settlement
Camp,
so
you
could
walk
into
there
in
the
sidewalk
for
on
the
whole
west
side
is
right
there
existing,
so
it
anybody
walking
is
going
to
be
coming
from
the
population
density
to
the
north,
so
this
will
be
their
first
available
spot
to
enter
the
settlement
camp.
You
know
they'll
have
to
walk
a
little
bit
longer.
AC
You
know
to
get
to
the
pool
or
to
get
to
the
settlement
camp
or
the
Frisbee
Park,
but
we
thought
that
was
the
safest
spot
and
traffic
is
at
30
miles
an
hour
in
both
directions
right
there,
and
then
we
also.
There
was
a
comment
from
Creighton
Manning
about
looking
at
a
left-hand
turn
lane
south
of
our
Northbound
left-hand
turn
lane
to
get
into
the
settlement
camp,
and
it's
it's
kind
of
difficult
to
see
here,
but
well
yeah.
Why
don't
we
pull
this
up?
AC
So
what
Phil
Greeley
did
is
came
up
with
this
quick
plan
this
afternoon
after
they
spoke,
and
we
show
it's
hard
to.
We
don't
really
have.
Oh,
you
do
have
a
cursor
yeah,
so
you
can
see
there's
a
left
hand,
turn
southbound,
which
brings
you
into
the
South
driveway
of
the
settlements
camps.
You
know
they
have
like
a
y
entrance
right
there.
AC
AC
You
know
with
Creighton
Manning
about
whether
that
makes
sense
if
you're
leaving
and
heading
north
yeah,
then
you
it's
easy
to
use
that
North
Wing
if
you're
leaving
and
heading
south-
and
you
will
go
out
the
South
so
probably
with
some
signage,
you
know
within
the
settlement
Camp
there
already
is
some
and
that
can
be.
You
know
that
can
be
addressed.
AC
AC
W
I'm,
you
know
relatively
pleased
by
the
changes
to
the
turning
lane.
I
think
that's
important
to
have
it
exit
over
to
the
the
settlement
Camp
there
I
did
raise
and
I
do
agree
on
this.
On
the
crosswalk
and
I.
Don't
know,
I
haven't
seen
your
letter,
yet
so
I
don't
know
what
she
said
about
crosswalks,
but
I
think
it
might
be
better
to
have
them
further
further
north,
a
crosswalk
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
crosswalk
to
the
settlement.
Camp
from
the
west
side
walk
so
I.
W
Sidelines
were
best
at
the
Clearwater
entrance,
rather
than
the
north
entrance,
but
I'll
defer
to
Stark
on
that.
I
did
raise
a
couple,
architectural
issues
and
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
get
into
those.
But
you
know
we
haven't
looked
at
the
or
any
architectural
concepts
for
the
Cottages
that
are
part
of
phase
one
and
and
the
materials
list
was
a
little
vague.
I
I,
particularly
the
Stone
panels,
were
sort
of
vertical
in
orientation
on
your
site
plan
drawings,.
AD
AD
Is
it
is
real
stone
that
is
actually
the
style
of
stone
that
we
want
to
use
that
that
ashler
cut
stone?
Look
it's
very
consistent
with
some
historic
images
we've
seen
and
what
you
can
actually
see
of
the
foundation
of
the
Mansion.
So
maybe
some
of
our
mapping
of
our
materials
on
these
renderings
is
not
perfectly
exact,
but
that
is
our
all.
V
Yeah
we
were
looking
at
there's
a
historic
photo
of
the
mansion
that
we
had
found
at
the
Historic
Society,
and
you
can
see
at
the
base
of
the
Richard
Morris
hunt
edition.
There's
used
to
be
some
of
that
stuff,
sudden
more
of
the
Asha
pattern,
and
so
the
goal
with
how
we're
using
Stone,
especially
at
the
Garden
side
and
at
that
interior
Courtyard
side,
which
really
is
invisible
from
the
public,
is
to
emulate
that
stone.
That
used
to
be
there
and
really
play
off
of
that
history.
V
And
then
I
think
John,
your
last
question
on
the
the
fiber
cement.
We
would
like
to
leave
a
textured
fiber
cement
open
for
us.
We've
got
two.
We
have
two
places
that
we're
using
fiber
cement
and
proposing
it.
One
is
on
that
new
Chateau
ring
and
we
there
we
would
definitely
use
the
smooth
fiber
cement
that
area
the
trim
pieces
of
the
fiber
cement
is,
is
used
to
frame
out
the
windows,
give
it
some
depth
and
really
kind
of
accentuate
the
windows.
V
The
second
place
that
we're
proposing
the
fiber
cement
to
be
used
is
at
the
meeting
room,
which
is
really
where
it's
coming
off
of
the
end
of
the
Mansion
right
here
above
The
Grotto
rooms
and
there
we
are
looking
at
a
much
more
highly
durable,
fiber
cement.
It's
not
your
typical
fibrous
cement,
siding
that
goes
on
residential
buildings
and
we're
looking
at
a
simulated
Stone
we're
not
quite
happy
with
the
color
right
now
from
nichiha,
so
we're
looking
at
warming
it
up.
But
it's
it's
three
quarters
of
an
inch
thick.
It
has
a
durability.
AD
W
X
As
Mr
Kellogg
said,
I
have
a
number
of
engineering
comments.
I've
been
in
touch
with
their
engineering
consultant
have
been
going
through
it
a
lot
of
cleanup
on
the
I'm.
Sorry
thank
you,
John
a
lot
of
cleanup
on
the
plans
itself
and
some
revisions
to
the
engineers
report
for
water
and
soar,
and
they
will
need
to
go
to
the
Department
of
Health
for
both
border
ends
or
approvals.
AC
Any
and
several
of
you
I
think
we
had
a
good
productive
session
with
the
Architectural
Review
Board,
whatever
that
was
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
we've
left
these
samples
in
the
building
department
office
for
people
to
come
up
and
touch
them,
and
but
we
basically
shared.
You
know
these
panels
and
the
elevations
that
David
just
presented
with
everybody.
I
T
AH
AC
AC
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AF
Regarding
our
comments
that
you
brought
up
the
crosswalk
The
Logical
Termini,
for
it
makes
sense
I
think
a
study
still
needs
to
be
done,
looking
at
speed
and
sight
distance
and
then
for
the
extra
turn
or
for
the
southbound
left
turn
lane.
We'll
look
at
the
plan
that
Phil
sent
over.
We
haven't
had
a
chance
to
fully
digest
it,
but.
AC
They're
both
good
starts
yeah,
we
haven't
done
traffic
Council
I
mean
I've,
been
you
know,
you've
all
been
here
a
lot
longer
than
me,
but
I'm
there
always
during
the
week
and
I
might
I
might
be
there
three
or
four
hours
at
a
time
and
just
see
one
car.
So
we
don't
have
any
traffic
counts
at
that
driveway.
We
don't
know
how
many
people
are
leaving
or
coming,
but
it
probably
doesn't
matter.
You
know
they
need
to
get
in
there
one
way
or
another.
AF
Yeah,
it's
it
comes
down
to
you
can
cross
the
hatching,
but
you
want
to
make
it
you
want
to
make
it
I
would
say
easy,
but
able
for
people
to
do
it,
but
with
the
crosswalk
I
think.
What's
going
to
be
important,
is
just
doing
that
study.
That's
going
to
look
at
site,
distance,
yeah
and
look
at
speeds
because
it's
going
to
be
a
new
cross
block
regardless
right,
and
we
just
want
to
figure
out
those
determining
factors.
So
I
think
the
location
makes
sense.
But
let's
just
confirm
it.
Yeah.
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A
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A
AE
I
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AJ
AJ
I'm,
sorry,
that's
Mr,
cartel
right
and
he's
indicated
that
that
our
proposal
is
also
compliant
within
that
revised
zoning,
but
we're
also
complaining
and
we're
also
compliant
in
the
in
the
previous
zoning,
which
is
still
in
effect
with
Mr
Russo's
letter,
which
we
received
last
week.
We
we
did
update.
There
were
two
comments
on
the
front
page.
AJ
So
the
the
our
our
engineer,
Mr
Burns,
has
added
this
detail
and
that's
also
been
already
submitted
to
the
city
and
it's
also
on
online.
So
those
are
the
two
comments.
We
hope
that
that
might
be
enough
to
address
any
concerns,
and
we
at
this
time
would
hope
that
you
would
yeah.
That's
it.
Consider
possibly.
H
AJ
W
Yes,
Jennifer
said
the
the
council
adopted
a
new
provision
for
accessory
Apartments.
There
were
two
sort
of
lingering
questions
about
this
application.
Both
of
those
are
now
Satisfied
by
the
new
Provisions
in
the
accessory
apartment
law.
There
there's
a
200
foot
minimum
size
rather
than
the
300
foot
minimum
size.
There's
the
the
size
of
the
accessory
building
is
now
based
on
the
full
square
footage
of
the
house
rather
than
the
footprint
and
it's
50
rather
than
40.
W
So
everything
on
this
application
complies
with
the
new
law
and
the
as
far
as
I
can
tell
the
new
law
is
in
effect
because
it
was
filed
on
the
official
website
of
the
Secretary
of
State
yesterday,
I
believe
so.
The
only
problem
is
is
you're
going
to
have
to
change
the
tables
to
comply
with
the
new
law
so
that
when.
W
F
W
I
know,
but
the
new
zoning
is
in
effect
now,
and
so
any
anything
that's
approved
after
that
zoning
went
into
effect,
has
to
comply
with
the
new
zoning.
Not
the
old
zoning,
so
I
believe
the
the
motion.
The
resolution
can
go
forward
with
the
condition
that
you
change
the
tables
to
update
to
the
new
standards.
AJ
B
You
no,
what
pending
applications
aren't
like
grandfathered
in
under
the
old
zoning.
The
zoning
applies
as
of
today
so
but
it's
not
an
issue
because
you
comply,
so
the
zoning
actually
helped
you
and
all
John
Clark
is
saying
is
that
the
tables
will
have
to
be
updated
with
the
you
know,
correct
figures
to
conform
to
today's
zoning,
but
there's
not
an
issue
as
to
whether
or
not
you
comply.
W
And
just
for
the
record,
this
draft
zoning
law
has
been
in
place
and
under
discussion
for
over
a
year.
So
there
wasn't
any
changes
to
address
specific
applicants
because
there's
two
applications
pending
on
Accessory
Apartments.
This
was
this
draft
was
in
place
and
being
negotiated
for
the
last
year,
or
so
it
was
well
before
any
decisions
are
made
on
these
pending
applications.
Tonight.
X
Says
Mr
Calderon
pointed
out:
I
did
have
a
concern
with
protection
of
the
clean
out,
since
it
was
in
the
driveway
and
with
regards
to
the
missing
block
on
the
cover
sheet.
I
know:
I
received
an
email
today
with
updated
drawings.
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
review
it,
but
these
are
just
minor
comments
that
can
be
addressed
later.
I
Comments,
no,
so
just
not
to
be
just
to
clarify
this.
Oh
I
see
where
it
is.
So
it's
it's
in
your
it's
in
your
notes
that
it's
on
your
on
your
title
sheet
is
what
you're
going
to
have
to
where
it
says
code
of
the
city
of
Beacon,
and
it
reiterates
the
that's:
what's
gonna
have
to
be
updated
right,
John,
all.
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A
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B
In
the
last
meeting,
you
did
not
direct
a
resolution
to
be
prepared
for
tonight,
but
because
of
the
minor
nature
of
this
application,
what
I
would
suggest
is
you
could
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
application
tonight
subject
to
the
standard
conditions
that
we
always
put
in
every
you
know,
accessory
apartment
resolution
included
in
those
conditions.
Is
the
the
rec
fee
for
an
additional
dwelling
unit,
there'll
be
a
recreational
fee
that
has
to
be
imposed
before
Co,
and
you
can
authorize
the
chairman
to
sign
that
resolution.
F
W
F
W
A
A
H
AK
Good
evening,
good
evening,
I'm
Mike
Gillespie
from
Gillespie
Associates
Consulting
engineer
for
the
project
with
me
tonight
is
Mr
Michael
Braden
I
we've
been
before
the
board,
I
think
the
last
at
least
two
months.
I
presume
the
board
is
pretty
familiar
with.
What's
proposed
and
the
location
all
that
good
stuff
I
know
that
we
had
a
public
hearing
that
was
opened
last
month.
It
was
adjourned
and
I.
AK
My
understanding
is
the
reason
it
was
adjourned
is
because
we
need
to
get
a
sit
down
with
the
architectural
subcommittee,
which
happened
between
now
and
then
that
went
fairly
well.
I
know
there's
some
concerns
regarding
the
signage
and
so
forth.
But
again,
as
pointed
out
in
one
of
the
comment,
letters
from
the
review-
Consultants,
that's
typically
something
that's
handled
by
by
building
so
I've
taken
a
look
at
you
know
the
review
letters
that
I
received
I
think
last
week
from
Mr
Clark
Mr
Russo
seemed
to
be
fairly
minor
in
nature.
AK
A
W
There
are
a
bunch
of
labeling
and
things
that
have
to
be
cleaned
up,
but
I
won't
go
through.
Those
I
have
some
new
information.
I
talked
to
the
city
administrator
today
about
Street
trees,
yep,
because
it
was
a
question
about
what
the
process
was
for
a
city
approving
these
things
and
and
despite
what
you
heard
from
the
tree
advisory
committee,
the
city
administrator
would
like
to
avoid
greats
in
the
future.
Okay,.
AK
F
N
AK
W
W
And
then
the
other
two
points
that
he
made
were
in
terms
of
tree
species,
there's
a
provision.
It
actually
says
in
the
code
in
under
someplace
in
the
in
the
administrative
code
that
it
has
to
be
indigenous
species
native
species.
Not
you
know
Exotics
or
you
know,
okay,
so,
and
if
there
are
no
wires,
he
understands
wires.
X
W
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E
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X
X
W
Sorry
I
was
on
the
back
page.
I
forgot.
The
architecture
used
subcommittent
with
the
applicant
and
six
action
items
were
identified
for
further
consideration,
so
I
wasn't
at
that
subcommunity
meeting
I'm,
not
sure
how
it
was
left
in
terms.
Are
you
going
to
meet
again
on
this
or
those
action
items
Incorporated
in
the
site
plan?
Can.
I
My
email
and
open
up
the
notes-
and
that's
probably
you
know-
I-
took
minutes
from
the
from
the
ARB
meeting,
because
John
couldn't
be
present
and
I
think
I
identified
actions.
I
want
to
be
cautious
about
how
I
described
those
in
terms
of
you
know,
obligations
by
people
to
deal
with
them
I
might
have
just
been.
I
I
could
think
of
one
thing
that
might
be
in
action
like
we
had
we
had
talked
about.
You
know.
Kevin
had
made
the
comment
during
that
meeting
that
there
was
a
couple
of
it
seemed
like
there
was
a
couple
of
different
major
themes
in
the
design
and-
and
we
we
had
talked
about
you
know,
could
the
architect
take
another
look
at
making
them
cohere
into
a
sort
of
unifying?
H
I
Y
And,
like
I
said
when
we're
in
the
Architectural
Review
Committee,
you
know
it's
much
more
of
a
conversation
that
we're
having
and
it's
more
General,
it's
not
about
specific
code
requirements,
it's
about
the
general
aesthetic
and
how
you,
obviously
you
know.
You've
worked
very
hard
on
this
and
we
weren't
I
I
personally
didn't
want
to
over.
Y
Y
AI
I
D
I
I
Had
to
simplified
it
I
had
a
question
that
we
didn't
talk
about
at
the
ARB,
but
it
in
looking
at
the
building.
Since
that
meeting,
we
we
talked
during
the
RB.
We
talked
about
how
the
neon
sign
was
meant
to
be
evocative
of
kind
of
traditional
Studebaker
dealership
signage
because
of
the
original
use
of
the
building
yeah
and
on
the
North
facing
facade.
Has
that
built
up?
You
know
wooden
awning
over
the
garages
right.
You
know
if
you're
familiar
with
what
I'm
describing
in
the
existing
conditions.
F
I
I
So
when
you,
when
you
look
at
the
corner
of
Chestnut
and
Henry,
there's
some
faded,
white
paint
and
I
don't
know
if
anybody
has
had
any
capability
to
look
under
there,
I
meant
to
contact
the
Historical
Society.
Maybe
I'll
be
able
to
do
it
tomorrow.
I
was
curious
to
see
whether
there
were
any
historic
photos
of
the
Studebaker
dealership
when
it
opened.
But
I
had
this
question
of.
AI
Y
AI
AI
Y
AI
Y
Screening,
there's
planting,
there's
signage,
there's
all
sorts
of
things
that
sort
of
make
a
kind
of
an
assembly
clear.
You
know
and
I
yeah
I'm
I'm
willing
to
leave
it
up
to
you
because
obviously
you're
ambitious
you
know
for
and
you
want
this
to
be
expressive.
We
don't
have
a
historic
requirement
right
there
and
it's
a
town
that
has
a
lot
of
you
know
it's
artistic
I.
X
AJ
Y
Y
I
When
I
was
on
the
other
side
of
the
table,
you
know
I'm,
not
gonna,
like
hold
my
breath
that
we're
gonna
find
like
a
terracotta
Medallion
or
something
under
that
right
wooden
built
out.
You
know
fake
mansard
looking
thing,
but
it
would
be
really
cool
if
we
did
so
John
passed
me,
the
printout
of
what
I
had
called
action
items
from
the
ARB
meeting,
so
the
first
one
was.
I
I
I
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AI
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D
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AI
AK
AI
AI
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B
D
D
B
D
D
A
B
B
A
G
A
AL
AK
AL
Know
we're
here
tonight
we
made
a
submission
with
a
little
bit
more
detail
since
the
last
submission
very
minor
changes.
We
think
we
may
have
addressed
a
few
comments
along
the
way
and
we're
here
tonight
for
the
public
hearing
for
site
plan
subdivision
and
the
special
permit.
So
I
don't
know
if
I
need
to
give
a
long
presentation
everyone's.
You
know
we've
been
here
a
few
years
now
so
I
think
everyone's
heard
it
we'll
I
think.
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Access
off
Bank
Street
there's
a
lot
of
streetscape
improvements
for
for
the
area
there
on
the
corner
of
West,
Main
and
Bank,
we're
proposing
to
redo
sidewalks,
install
landscape
Planters,
a
lot
of
landscaping.
Hardscape
should
look
really
nice
we've
also
gotten
our
Architectural
Review
Board
review
and
approval
as
well.
So
we're
here
tonight
just
to
answer
any
questions
from
the
public
and
anything
else
that
the
board
has.
W
Let's
have
Debbie
update
everybody
on
this.
The
rear
parking
which
is
in
the
residential
district.
The
city
council
adopted
a
law
early
this
month.
It
allows
the
planning
board
to
issue
a
special
permit
in
this
case
for
parking
on
the
adjacent
residentially,
Zone
parcel
I,
don't
believe
it's
been
filed,
yet
so
it's,
but
it
would
be
imminent.
W
It's
been
up
there
at
the
Department
of
State
for
a
while
I
haven't
heard
that
confirmed
that
it's
been
filed,
but,
presumably
by
next
month,
it
would
be
in
effect,
so
that
would
need
a
special
permit
from
the
planning
board
and
that's
part
of
this
public
hearing.
We
anticipate
that
this
might
be
passed
by
now.
The
only
other
points
that
I
have
is
that
the
site
plan
now
shows
in
the
last
couple,
iterations
and
I
noticed
that
there's
chain
link
fencing
on
the
top
of
the
retaining
walls.
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Says
Mr
Spina
noted
they
submitted
to
Department
of
Health.
We
actually
got
the
response
letter
from
the
Department
of
Health
today
very
minor
comments
with
some
notes
that
have
to
be
added
to
the
plans
and
some
revisions
to
the
details
which
I'm
assuming
you're
gonna,
get
that
turned
around
pretty
quickly.
X
So
I
think
they're
going
to
get
approval
from
Department
of
Health
pretty
quickly.
On
this
a
lot
of
the
comments
we
have
are
previous
comments
that
we've
made
with
regards
to
bonding
of
the
project.
Construction
schedules,
stormwater
maintenance
agreement,
the
demolition
plan,
but
one
thing
I
wanted
to
bring
to
your
attention
Steve
was
in
easement,
would
need
to
be
shown
on
the
easement
plan
for
the
stormwater
or
actually
for
access
to
the
site
to
reveal
stormwater
Management
Systems.
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Good
evening
Glennon
Watson
from
beating
Watson,
we
closed
two
public
hearings
last
month
and
we're
hopeful
that
you're
going
to
adopt
resolutions
giving
us
a
closing
secret
Loop
and
giving
us
a
preliminary
approval
on
the
subdivision.
We
have
received
comments
from
John
Russo
and
your
planner
John
Clark
and
we've
they're
not
addressed
on
what
you're
seeing
here
they've
been
addressed.
Lately.
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AE
There
was
a
comment
with
regarding
the
revised
planting
plan,
specifically
the
trees
along
the
neighbor
that
were
designed
to
screen
the
neighbors
pool.
Mr
Clark
raised
concerns
with
regard
to
the
height
of
the
being
too
high
and
potentially
casting
the
shade
on
the
on
the
pool
that
would
make
it
less
pleasurable
to
be
using
the
pool.
So
we
looked
today,
I
had
somebody
look
and
we
think
that
that's
not
a
that
is
not
really
a
problem.
We
one
of
the
fellas.
That
knows
how
to
do.
AE
It,
went
through
and
did
a
sunrise
and
sunset
over
the
thing,
and
we
do
cast
a
shadow
on
the
pool,
but
it's
about
six
o'clock
at
the
worst
time
during
the
hottest
periods
of
the
day.
It's
not,
but
that
being
said,
if
there's
another
suggestion,
we'd
be
happy
to
we'd
be
happy
to
employ
it.
One
of
the
other
issue
with
that
particular
plant
that
was
explained
to
me
is
that
it
was
chosen
for
to
avoid
Leaf
Drop
into
the
pool
and
but
we'll
be
working
with
that.
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From
here
you
closed
your
public
hearing
at
the
last
meeting
and
you
directed
preparation
of
a
resolution,
so
you
do
have
a
resolution
of
preliminary
and
final
subdivision
plan
approval
ready
for
you
to
act
upon
and
I
didn't
hear
anything
tonight.
That
would
require
any
edits
to
the
draft
that
was
provided
to
you
excellent.
B
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My
wife
of
the
property-
we
don't
have
our
design
team
here
tonight.
We
have
comments
from
both
the
city's
engineering
and
planning
consultants
and
we
believe
those
are
cleanup
items.
We
are
fully
ready
to
comply
with
them.
We
we
think
we're
in
a
position,
I
hope
to
ask
for
a
a
rather
resolution
of
conditional
approval,
but
we're
also
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
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Instead,
I
think
there
was
some
back
and
forth
between
our
engineer
and
the
city's
Consultants.
Today
we
would
like
to
just
fully
comply,
not
ask
for
any
waiver
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
it
is
our
fully
our
intent
to
to
have
the
of
the
nine
senior
apartments
that
those
we
expect
will
be
in
the
in
the
esche
program.
That's
our
intent
where
we
haven't
Inked
that
deal.
You
know
we
haven't
seen
the
dollars
on
that,
but
we
expect
that
to
happen.
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One
of
them
was
about
the
the
big
glass
windows
and
what's
going
to
be
behind
those
windows,
and
is
it
going
to
be
concern
either
for
the
people
inside
or
for
everybody
on
the
street
because
of
what
the
people
inside
are
doing
and
and
we've
had
that
concern
and
we
we
won't
have
tinted
glass.
We
won't
have
reflective
glass,
because
that
would
be
in
violation
of
the
of
the
zoning
code
and
we
think
a
bad
idea.
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AA
Right
so
yes,
and,
and
so
what
we'd
like
to
have
happen
with,
that
is
similar
to
what
the
city
did
for
the
building
on
Beekman
here,
which
is
to
say,
there's
an
easement
requiring
pedestrian
through
passage.
But
the
easement
is
not
fixed
but
can
be
located
anywhere
on
that
property.
So
it
could
be
incorporated
into
the
building
subject
to
approval
by
the
building
department
as
part
of
a
normal
permit
process
at
a
future
date.
AA
AA
B
B
AA
F
AA
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
anything
that
could
be
incorporated
and
probably
not
I
think
it
would
just
be
a
subsequent
site
plan
approval.
It's
entirely
conceivable
that
at
some
point
in
the
future,
we
will
have
a
options
for
a
more
direct
passage
from
that
parking
to
cross
street
through
one
parcel
or
another.
AA
X
So
we
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
new
comments
at
all.
A
lot
of
the
comments
we
have
we've
made
previously
several
times
and
the
applicant
is
working
with
their
Engineers
to
address
the
comments.
They've
brought
on
a
structural
engineer
to
look
at
retaining
walls.
Look
at
the
impacts
of
planting
of
trees
near
the
walls,
so
I
have
nothing
else
to
add
at
this
point
in
time,
thanks
Jill.
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The
we
don't
know
yet
is
the
short
answer,
because
we
Watsontown
brick
had
a
24
inch
brick
and
then
they
had
a
16
inch
brick
and
now
they
don't,
and
now
they
have
a
12
inch
brick.
So
we're
not
exactly
sure
whether
it's
going
to
end
up.
So
it's
we're
going
to
try
to
get
a
16
to
24
inch,
brick
because
that
would
be
sort
of
fun.
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Was
approved,
at
least
in
some
verbal
discussions
at
the
last
meeting.
That's
why
it's
on
the
elevations,
but
we
can.
We
can
certainly
bring
it
back
again
and
then
the
the
question
is
we
purposefully
put
or
similar
on
the
the
drawings,
because
it's
you
know,
there's
quite
a
few
months
between
now
and
then
and.
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F
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You
know
when
we
have
a
question
or
discussion
and
just
so
I'm
kind
of
just
screaming
into
the
void,
but
it
would
be
great
if,
if
applicants
continue
to
maintain
elevations
in
the
packages
so
that
we're
not
like
I
just
did
going
into
the
archive
from
August
to
find
the
elevation
so
that
Jill
can
check
him
out.
You
know
what
we're
having
discussions.
I
B
So
next
steps-
yes,
yeah,
okay,
so
you
have
before
we
close
the
public
hearing
at
the
last
week
you
direct
the
preparation
of
secret
documents
and
resolution.
You
have
the
part
two
of
the
full
environmental
assessment
Forum
in
front
of
you.
You
also
have
part
three
with
the
negative
declaration
narrative
attached.
That
goes
through
all
the
relevant
environmental
impacts.
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Just
need
a
minute
for
this
thing
to
come
up,
but
so
the
properties
at
five
Willow
Street
and
it's
in
the
T
zoning
district
and
the
owners
are
applying
to
create
an
accessory
apartment
in
an
existing
two-story
garage.
So
we
again
like
that
last
accessory
apartment
application
have
to
redo
the
tables
and
notes
and
apply
the
new
regulations
to
this
it.
It
seems
that
it
was
you.
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One
thing
that
procedurally
we
can
do
is
you
know,
there's
two
ways
an
applicant
can
get
before
the
zoning
board
won
a
permit
denial
from
the
building
department
and
to
a
referral
from
the
planning
there's
a
pending
on
the
Apple.
So
you
can
refer
the
application
to
the
zoning
board,
for
whatever
variance
is
going
to
be
necessary
as
determined
by
the
building
department.
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B
They're
going
to
need
a
variance,
it's
just
a
question
of
whether
it's
an
area
of
variance
or
a
use
variance.
So
you
know
if
there
are,
you
know,
certainly
give
your
comments
tonight,
but
I
think
it's.
It
makes
sense
to
have
the
applicant
proceed
before
the
zoning
board
first
confirm
that
they
can
get
that
variance
if.
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We're
proposing
a
story:
custom
Colonial
rides
right,
we're
going
to
be
moving.
We
do
a
four
inch
certainty,
white
vinyl,
siding
the
Bible
board
and
back
in
three
children
abroad.
Also
certainty,
White
shutters
will
be
erased.
Panel,
black
Windows
style
will
be
a
simultaneous
brick
pole,
600
series
no
drills
for
being
composed
in
the
windows,
black.
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You
and
they're
putting
this
Bay
on
the
three
Bays
on
the
north
side
of
the
building.
That's
this
is
the
existing
building.
That's
the
new
building
the
interior
is
set.
They
have
all
sorts
of
requirements
for
firematic
stuff
that
they
can't
change
so
they're,
essentially
looking
at
just
the
facade
issues,
and
this
is
an
advisory
opinion.
The
Council
has
invoked
the
right
to
ignore
zoning
if
they
so
choose
on
their
own
property.
So
they're
just
asking
for
your
help
and
as
to
what
it
should
look
like
on
the
outside
I.
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Is
an
option
for
all
brick?
Yes,
so
the
upper
right
is
an
option
that
they've
looked
at
so
instead
of
having
the
stone
and
brick
do
more
detailing
on
the
brick
as
a
way
of
making
it
look
like
look
like.
So
they
looked
at
the
old
maze,
firehouse
and
they're
sort
of
picking
up
on
some
of
the
string
courses
in
the
cast
stone
capitals
and
things
like
that
to
sort
of
dress
up
the
facade.
G
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Y
Windows
and
the
configuration
of
the
windows,
one
of
the
there's
there's
a
couple
of
problems
that
they're
having
to
deal
with
one
of
them
is
if
they
are
maintaining
the
fenestration,
the
way
that
the
windows
are
set
up
right
and
the
massing,
which
is
a
very
like
a
you
know,
like
an
industrial
building.
It's
sort
of
designed
right
now,
like
an
industrial
building
that
would
be
on
a
highway
right
in
that
it's
just
these
simple
blocks.
Y
I'm,
sorry,
okay
yeah,
that's
the
one.
The
existing
massing
right
is
set
up
like
a
an
industrial
building
on
the
highway
right.
There's
a
office
Block
in
front
and
there's
a
two-story
part
in
the
back,
and
it's
just
geometric
right
it
doesn't
it's
not
masked
like
a
traditional
Firehouse,
let's
say
so:
it's
going
to
be
difficult
for
them
to
make
it
look
like
you
can.
Y
With
that
massing,
you
can
put
decoration
on
it
right,
that's
traditional
decoration,
but
because
the
massing
is
the
way
it
is,
it
will
look
like
you've
spray
painted
decoration
onto
something
that's
different
right.
So
it'll,
look
like
you,
you
just
put
tinsel
and
whatnot
it'll
be
an
applique
right.
It
won't
really
look
it'll.
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Is
if
you
look
at
the
DM
right,
they've
got
tears
with
concrete
on
top
of
them
right,
so
there's
a
which
is
called
a
horse
right
up.
There's
a
there's,
a
cornice
above
that
that's
just
a
flat,
modernist
point:
it's
like
a
factory
like
the
deal
was
right,
the
Nabisco
Factory.
So
that
is
one
type
of
way
of
laying
out
a
you
know:
modernist,
simple
industrial
block
or
something
that's.
You
know,
boxy.