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A
A
A
Yes,
sir,
will
do.
Did
everybody
hear
me
regarding
the
cell
phone?
Okay?
Thank
you
all
right.
The
way
I
noticed
has
been
posted.
We
have
an
approval
of
the
minutes
before
we
get
into
the
action
items.
Any
comments,
revisions-
modifications-
if
not
you
have
a
motion
to
approve
it,
make.
C
B
B
A
Okay,
seeing
none
and
having
none
in
front
of
me
we'll
move
forward.
A
All
right,
the
first
issue
in
front
of
us
this
evening
is
the
zoning
map
Amendment
rezoning
request
for
21
Acres,
located
at
Laurel
Bay
at
the
South
West
corner
of
the
intersection
of
Rosetta
Rosita
I,
think
of
roseda
extension
from
T2
rural
to
Industrial
S1
who's,
presenting
this
for
the
county,
yeah.
D
A
B
D
So
the
applicant
is
requesting
to
resent
three
Parcels
to
S1
industrial.
These
are
currently
undeveloped
and
in
proximity
to
single-family
detached
residences,
so
the
industrial
S1
Zone
permits
office
manufacturing
industrial
warehousing
and
uses
that
support
them.
This
thing,
such
as
vehicle
sales
and
rental
body,
branding,
piercing,
manufacturing,
processing
and
packaging
that
21
Acres,
could
potentially
yield
a
0.48
floor
area
ratio.
D
The
future
land
use
is
neighborhood
mixed
use.
This
is
a
moderate
density.
Residential
is
a
primary
use
with
some
supporting
neighborhood
retail
establishments.
It
is
within
the
acoust
overlay,
and
so
the
comprehensive
plan
describes
it
as
residential
development
and
places
of
assembly
churches.
Schools
Etc
should
be
highly
Limited
in
these
areas,
so
light
industrial,
commercial
and
agricultural
uses
are
considered
appropriate
in
this
area.
Although
light
industrial
use
is
one
of
those
deemed
appropriate
for
the
parcels
within
the
acus,
a
zoning
District
that
allows
heavy
industrial
and
Salvage
operations,
it's
not
appropriate
for
these
Parcels.
D
The
future
land
use
map
identifies
these
areas
that
are
located
within
the
acus,
where
an
industrial
would
be
most
appropriate
and
these
Parcels
are
not
within
it.
So
whenever
we
also
look,
you
can
see
how
majority
of
this
area
is
rural
and
abutting.
These
three
Parcels
are
some
larger
residential
lots,
and
so
with
that
staff
recommends
denial.
A
E
My
name
is
Joshua
Ward
I
was
the
purchasing
agent
that
helped
the
owner
purchase
this
property
I'm
just
representing
them
on
their
behalf,
because
they
I
was
able
to
articulate
a
little
bit
better
on
what
we
were
trying
to
do.
I
delivered
a
PowerPoint
presentation
if
we
could
potentially
pull
that
up
to
the
county.
E
Yep,
okay,
so
these
are
the
three
Parcels
as
you
can
see,
so
each
one
of
those
marked
if
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide
yeah.
So
each
one
of
those
marked
properties
is
a
commercial
or
industrial
type
property.
That's
within
a
mile
of
ours.
Obviously
you
know
we're
not
trying
to
build
on
Wetlands
or
anything
like
that
and
still
maintain
within,
like
the
allowance
of
what
you
guys
would
allow.
E
But
if
you
scroll
through
the
pictures
storage
unit,
you
can
keep
scrolling,
please
salvage
yard,
two
other
additional
Salvage
type
businesses,
another
storage
unit
and
then
another
type
of
Salvage
like
car
business,
so
I
mean
there's
other
properties
within
that
road
that
are
within
close
proximity
to
allow
that
type
of
usage
somewhere
within
the
city
of
Beaufort,
while
also
look
to
have
been
I,
guess
grandfathered
in
from
the
county
from
before
they
had
did
Future
land
usage,
and
then
this
is
just
kind
of
a
brief
statement
of
what
we
would
be
trying
to
do.
E
Ideally
we're
just
looking
to
do
some
small
storage
unit
options,
along
with
the
potential
for
larger
Bays.
That's
allowed
either
vehicle
storage,
item
storage
or
Workshop
storage.
It's
a
low
traffic
area
with
the
flyovers
from
the
air
base
I
mean
it
is
like
super
loud
there.
So
the
fact
that
it's,
you
know
being
proposed
to
be
primarily
residential,
I'm
kind
of
surprised.
Just
because
you
know
jets
are
flying
over
like
at
least
100
feet.
E
You
know
there
so
it
I
live.
You
know
a
little
bit
further
up
the
road
from
there
and
you
know
it
shakes
the
house
almost
whenever
the
jets
fly
over.
Ideally,
you
know
we're
just
trying
to
kind
of
get
it
to
where
you
could
ride.
Something.
That's
currently
in
need
right
now,
in
Beaver
County,
you
know
a
lot
of
people
are
moving
here,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
storage
options
available
that
have
availability
and
just
trying
to
create.
You
know
a
business
type
that
will
be
beneficial
for
the
area.
B
A
Okay,
please
come
forward
if
you
are
making
a
comment
relate
to
this
issue.
Thank
you.
Well,
we'll
listen
to
some
public
comments.
Just
before
we
start
the
public
comments
and
I
will
give
this
a
instruction
as
well
in
the
next
couple
of
issues.
A
A
Please,
if
we
have
multiple
speakers,
I
would
say
please
try
to
avoid
repeating
comments
already
offered
that
that's
not
an
additive
to
our
information
and
please
play
and
I
said
already.
Please
place
your
cell
phones
on
silent
so
that
we
can
listen
attentively
to
the
speakers
just
as
a
reminder
on
these
issues.
This
issue
PC
the
Planning
Commission,
is
an
advisory
body
to
County
Council
as
such
Planning
Commission
recommendation
on
this
issue
goes
forward
to
County
Council
through
the
land
use
and
Community
Services
committee,
then
to
County
Council
for
the
review
and
voting
new
termination.
A
B
F
H
Well,
this
is
a
zoning
Amendment.
Let
me
remind
you
so
I,
don't
know
what
the
use
is.
So
it's
it's
very
speculative
at
this
point
you
know,
but
there
are
buffers
requirements
and
when
you're
looking
at
light
industrial,
you
know
or
industrial
type
use
to
residential
you're
talking
about
a
50-foot
buffer,
but
it's
going
to
depend
on
what
kind
of
development
occurs
on
the
site.
You
know,
so
anything
permitted
under
S1
industrial
could
happen.
If
this
this
amendment
moves
forward.
Okay,
okay,.
F
No
I
think
that'll
that'll.
Do
us
I,
think
I
think
50
foot
would
be
okay,
I
think
as
long
as
there
was
at
least
enough
buffer
to
protect
us
have
they
said
what
they
proposed
to
put
to
that
if
they
were
to
get
an
industrial
zoning.
A
The
gentleman
just
spoke
to
that
issue
regarding
storage
capabilities,
Jed
storage,
sheds
storage,.
F
A
A
I
A
I
And
I
live
right
next
to
that
property
and
the
I
live
at
16,
horizontal
Road,
Extension
and
the
property
is
directly
behind
us
and
he
actually
started
clearing
out
the
property
mid-august
and
he
did
come
approach
us
and
talk
to
us
about
that.
I
But
the
area
is
full
of
crime,
drugs,
prostitution
and
we're
afraid
of
the
traffic
that
is
going
to
produce
and
around
on
our
road
is
a
curb
and
people
already
speed
through
that
road
already,
so
we're
concerned
with
more
traffic
coming
through
and
we
do
have
children
in
the
area
that
it
will
cause
an
issue,
because
that
curb
is
a
sharp
curve
and
we
were
also
worried
about
the
military
too,
because
that
traffic,
the
military
travels
that
road
a
lot
to
so
the
increased
traffic
would
affect
them
and
their
families
also-
and
we
also
have
an
issue
of
trespassing
on
our
own
personal
property
that
we've
had
and
we've
had
to
call
the
police
several
times.
I
I
Because
those
the
people
around
here
don't
respect
boundaries
at
all
they
cross
over
onto
your
property,
especially
during
night
and
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
during
the
night
time
that
we're
assuming
is
associated
with
drug
trafficking
and
whatnot,
and
and
also
we
had
an
issue
with
public
for
Beaufort
County
Public
Works
was
trying
to
access
our
property
so
trying
to
dig
water
on
our
property.
They
were
saying
it
was
some
kind
of
drainage
issue,
but
we
don't
have
any
drainage
issues
and
we
talked
to
them
about
that.
I
So
we're
not
sure
if
that
was
associated
with
the
person
trying
to
get
water
because
accessing
our
water,
public,
water,
but
again
Public
Works,
never
got
back
with
us
and
talked
us
about
what
was
going
on.
So
we
just
just
to
let
it
dissipate
and
get
into
traffic
military
base
in
a
crime.
Crime
is
a
big
big
problem
in
the
area
and
the
drugs
all
right,
big,
big,
big
problem.
Thank
you
still
ongoing.
Thank.
A
A
Mr
merchant,
do
we
have
the
clock
working
on
the
three
minutes,
I
think
we're
going
to
need
that?
Yes,
ma'am,
would
you
please
state
your
name
and
your
address
yeah.
J
So
I
did
a
quick
search
of
storage
units
and
just
at
the
end
of
the
road
you
know
not
even
a
half
a
mile
there's
a
company
that
has
three
different
lots
of
storage
units
and
just
a
matter
of
fact
over
the
weekend
you
know
we've
rented
one
of
those,
so
we
know
that
they're
not
at
capacity
and
then
in
my
searches
within
you
know
five
miles.
There's
five
storage
units
companies,
you
know
that
people
could
choose
from
you
know
in
this
area
is
rural.
A
A
A
K
Hi,
my
name
is
Blake
Kennedy
I'm,
the
owner
of
the
property
in
question,
to
address
some
concerns.
Buffer
zones
would
absolutely
be
a
main
concern.
Fencing
is
going
to
be
around
any
project
that
I
do
so
that's
going
to
help
any
kind
of
trespassing.
You
know
the
wanderings
that
go
through
in
those
woods
I'm
definitely
going
to
be
implementing
a
lot
of
security.
K
You
know
if
we
decide
to
do
a
project,
it's
going
to
be
more
commercial
I'm.
Only
really
looking
to
you
know
have
those
companies
that
distribute
large
Goods,
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
going
it's
all
proposed
at
the
moment.
So
sorry,
I'm
out
of
breath,
had
to
run
to
get
here,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
that
this
project
is
definitely
going
to
be
something
that
we
take
everyone's
opinion
into
account
and
to
make
sure
that
people
are
happy
with
what
happens.
L
I
have
a
question
in
our
packet.
It
shows
that
the
proposed
designation
of
S1
is
the
only
S1
I
can
see
unless
there
are.
There
is
a
larger
area
that
I'm
not
aware
of
that
is.
It
seems
to
be
surrounded
by
t2rn,
which
is
I,
think
what
it
t2r
is,
what
it
is
now
surrounded
by
t2rn,
so
I'm
confused
about
why
we
should
approve
S1
in
this
area
and
I
like
what
the
I
would
like
to
support
the
staff
in
denial
of
this.
That's
my
comment.
Okay,.
M
I
just
note
I
know
it
was
mentioned
that
there
are
some
other
non-residential
uses
along
Laurel
Bay,
but
those
are
non-conforming
uses
and
I
think
the
concern
and
why
this
was
addressed
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
Is
it
the
intent,
isn't
to
see
non-residential
development
occurring
in
a
linear
fashion,
all
along
Laurel
Bay?
So
while
there
may
be
some
that,
are
there
as
a
result
of
non-conforming
uses,
I
agree
with
my
other
Commissioners
commented
I,
don't
think
this
is.
A
I,
just
like
the
comment
that
I'm
in
agreement
regarding
the
comprehensive
plan,
land
use
as
it
was
laid
out
and
took
several
years
to
develop
and
we
are
not
about
a
year
and
a
half
from
that
point
in
time.
This
is
supposed
to
be
a
20-year
plan
for
maintaining
that
property
and
a
mixed
residential
use
capacity.
A
M
Good
job,
based
on
the
testimony
that
we
heard
this
evening
and
the
information
the
staff
report
I,
would
make
a
motion
that
we
recommend
to
County
Council
that
the
rezoning
from
T2
R2
S1
be
denied.
A
A
Are
having
a
party,
can
you
not
hear
me?
Okay,
please
speak
up.
Yes!
Thank
you!
Okay!
Okay!
Let
me,
let
me
repeat:
is
that
better.
All
right
in
front
of
us
is
a
zoning
map.
Zoning
request
for
502
Acres,
located
at
288
delamo
road
to
be
removed
from
the
cultural
protection
overlay
boundary
all
right,
we'll
hear
from
the
county.
H
Good
evening,
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
Planning
Commission,
as
the
chairman,
stated
what
what
you're
looking
at
is
a
proposed
map
Amendment
to
the
Community
Development
codes.
That
would
remove
the
five
Parcels
that
make
up
Pine
Island
the
502
Acres
from
the
cultural
protection
overlay
District.
H
H
The
t2
rural
zone
is
intended
to
preserve
the
rural
character
of
Beaver
County,
but
Pine
Island
also
falls
within
the
cultural
protection
overlay
Zone
and
the
state
enabling
legislation
defines
overlay
zones
as
that
they
impose
a
set
of
requirements
or
relax
a
set
of
requirements
imposed
by
the
underlying
zoning
District
when
there
is
a
special
public
interest
in
a
particular
geographic
area
that
does
not
coincide
with
the
underlying
Zone
boundaries.
H
So
if
you
look
at
the
underlying
zoning,
if
you
think
of
like
a
a
transparent
sheet
of
plastic
with
the
drawing
on
it
that
you
overlay,
you
have
your
underlying
zoning
and
what
you're
doing
is
with
this
overlay
District.
In
the
case
of
the
cultural
protection
overlay
District,
adding
additional
restrictions
to
what
the
underlying
T2
rural
zoning
has
and
specifically
with
the
cultural
protection
overlay,
it
restricts
franchise
architecture
and
prohibits
restricted
access
or
gated
communities,
Resorts
and
golf
courses
which
were
deemed
to
be
incompatible
with
cultural
protection.
H
Just
a
little
bit
of
background
about
the
cultural
protection
overlay
Zone
it
was,
it
has
been
established,
land
use
policy
in
Beaufort
County
since
1999.
it
was
originally
adopted
in
April,
26
1999,
when
the
county
adopted
its
zoning,
zoning
and
development
standards
ordinance
or
what
they
used
to
call
the
zdso
and
that
followed
an
extensive
Community
process.
H
The
district
in
its
original
language
had
a
stated
purpose
to
provide
opportunities
to
protect
natural
and
or
cultural
resources
found
on
Saint
Helena
Island
in
some
of
the
the
language.
From
the
purpose
statement
going
back
to
1999.
Has
this
statement
rapid
in
migration
would
substantially
alter
the
traditional
social
and
cultural
character
of
this
area
that
being
Saint
Helena
Island
as
new
residents
represent
different
values
and
Customs.
H
You
know
the
county
read
at
its
conference,
a
plan
in
2010
which
referenced
the
cultural
protection
overlay
district
and
you
know
recommended
looking
at
it
and
seeing
whether
additional
policies
and
regulations
are
needed
in
a
district
in
2014,
the
county
adopted
its
Community
Development
code
and
at
that
time,
Incorporated
the
cultural
protection
overlay
District
in
that
code
as
well.
So
it
you
know,
survived
a
new
code
for
the
county
and
then
in
November,
8th
of
2021.
H
The
county
adopted
its
Vision
envisioned
Beaufort
County
2040
comprehensive
plan
and
that
further
upheld
the
CPO
as
policy
recommending
the
following.
This
is
specific
recommendation
from
that
code
from
the
comprehensive
plan.
Reevaluate,
the
cultural
protection
overlay
District
by
assessing
whether
additional
land
use
restrictions
are
necessary
to
meet
the
attempt.
Intent
of
the
district.
H
So
in
November,
14th
of
2022
County
Council
appointed
the
cultural
protection
overlay
District
committee
and
that
committee
was
formed
and
it
was
given
further
Direction
by
the
community
services
and
land
use
committee
on
January
9
2023
to
exot
to
study
the
existing
CPO
ordinance
and
reinforce
the
overlay's
purpose
and
improve
the
protection
it
provide,
provides
to
Saint
Helena.
That's
a
paraphrase
of
the
the
motion
made
by
that
committee
and
I
think
you're
familiar
with.
A
G
H
And
of
course,
this
Planning
Commission
looked
at
that
at
our
at
our
May
meeting
that
was
adopted
on
May,
8th
2023
by
County
Council.
So
you
know
that
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
backgrounds
of
the
the
origins
of
the
CPO
District,
the
CPO
Zone
and
where
it
stands
today.
I
will
add
that
the
and
I
have
a
map
here
and
I.
Think.
H
The
language
when
this
was
adopted
in
1999,
it
specifically
says
in
the
applicability
section
that
the
boundaries
of
the
of
the
cultural
protection
overlay
apply
to
all
of
Saint
Helena
Island,
with
the
exception
of
Frip
Harbor
hunting
and
data
islands,
and
the
on
well,
and
also
the
unbridged
Barrier
Islands,
including
pritchard's
Capers,
St
Phillips
and
Bay
Point.
The
applicability
statements
specifically
says
that
the
CPO
District
requirements
apply
to
New
Uses.
It
is
not
the
intent
of
this
section
to
create
non-conforming
use
of
existing
uses.
H
Subdivisions,
puds
and
other
developments
approved
prior
to
the
adoption
in
1999
are
exempts
from
the
requirements
of
this
section
and
so
that
to
me
as
staff,
it's
clear
that
that's
a
justification
of
why
those
boundaries
were
drawn
and
did
not
include
data
Frip
and
harbor,
because
those
had
already
been
established
subdivided.
The
patterns
had
already
been
established
in
1999,
also
in
analyzing.
This
looking
a
little
further
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
The
2040
comprehensive
plan
has
a
whole.
You
know
place
this
great
value
in
protecting
the
natural
and
cultural
resources
of
Saint
Helen
Island.
H
There
is
a
section
you
know:
there's
an
entire
Spotlight
Saint
Helena
section
in
the
codes,
and
the
plan
provides
that
Beaufort
County's
galagichi
Community
makes
evident
that
the
Region's
cultural
resource
resources
are
not
just
the
historic
sites.
Waterways
sacred
grounds,
farmlands,
open
space,
hunting
grounds
in
the
land
on
which
traditional
events
have
occurred.
It
states
that
the
most
important
cultural
resources
are
the
people
themselves,
and
so
that
is
you
know
to
me,
is
abundantly
clear
of
what
the
intent
of
of
this
ordinance
is
in
implementing
land
use
policies.
H
The
plan
calls
for
the
county
to
re-evaluate,
evaluate
the
CPO
District,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
and
I
will
say
that
when
the
CPO
CPO
committee
met
one
of
the
charges
is
that
it
imp,
you
know,
improved
upon
the
purpose
statement
to
make
sure
that
the
intent
of
the
the
code
was
directly
tied
to
what
it.
What
it
did
you
know
the
the
prohibition
of
certain
uses,
and
so
some
of
the
language
that
was
added
to
the
purpose
statement.
I'll
read.
H
It
says
that
large-scale
Rapid
or
Suburban
growth,
such
as
gated
master
plan
communities,
golf
courses
and
Resort
destinations
conflicts
with
the
Island's
character
and
presents
the
greatest
threat
to
the
character
and
stability
of
the
Island
community.
Rapid
Suburban
growth
would
not
only
change
the
character
of
the
area
and
threaten
the
natural,
cultural
and
historic
qualities
of
Saint
Helena.
It
would
likely
bring
with
it
disproportionate
and
unsustainable
short
and
long-term
demands
for
urban
services
and
infrastructure.
H
Just
to
sum
up,
you
know,
staff
recommends
denial.
The
proposed
amendments,
the
location
and
extent
of
the
CPO
boundaries,
were
purposefully
delineated
to
support
and
implement
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
purpose
statement
of
the
cultural
protection
overlay
District
to
move
the
boundaries
for
the
purpose
of
excluding
certain
Parcels
erodes
the
effectiveness
of
the
cultural
protection
overlay
by
allowing
the
very
uses
that
have
been
identified
as
posing
the
greatest
threat
to
the
character
instability
of
the
Island
community.
So
that
is
our
staff
recommendation
is
is
for
denial,
but
thank
you.
A
All
right
and
may
we
hear
from
the
applicant.
N
Follow
good
evening.
N
You,
chairman,
commission,
my
name
is
elbio
tropiano
I'm,
the
owner
of
subject
property.
Pine
Island
I'm
excited
to
speak
to
the
commission
tonight,
because
we
have
a
unique
opportunity
here
to
actually
help
plan
for
a
very
important
place
in
Beaufort
County,
which
is
Saint
Helen
Island,
like
many
I,
arrived
here
over
two
years
ago,
and
was
immediately
taken
by
the
Indescribable
elements
that
make
Beaufort
County
a
special
place.
So
I
decided
to
stay
here.
N
N
According
to
Beaufort
County.
The
role
of
the
Planning
Commission.
Not
only
to
tell
you
guys
this,
but
just
for
information
is
to
advise
Counsel
on
matters
relating
to
the
preparation
for
the
future,
to
advise
Counsel
on
ways
of
overcoming
Collective
problems
involving
the
county
and
to
advise
Council
in
the
orderly
planning
for
wise
conservation
of
Natural,
Resources,
preservation
of
the
scenic,
Beauty
and
environment
of
the
lands
and
Waters
of
the
county.
This
role
is
extremely
important.
N
In
fact,
not
just
emotion,
I
implore
you
to
listen
to
the
facts
when
considering
the
outcomes
and
to
look
at
this
as
an
exercise
of
Common
Sense
I
am
requesting
that
my
property
Pine
Island
be
removed
from
the
CPO
because
it
will
actually
allow
me
to
achieve
the
goals
of
the
original
CPO
ordinance
stated,
as
Rob
said,
to
protect
the
natural
and
or
cultural
resources
found
on
St
Helen
Island.
I
know
this
is
seemingly
the
opposite
of
what
you've
been
told
to
date.
N
N
We
have
historical
letters
and
correspondence
with
people
inviting
them
to
come
and
enjoy
said
Resort.
We
have
letters
to
presidents,
multiple
presidents,
inviting
them
and
their
children
to
come
out
and
hunt
and
do
recreational
activities
for
a
fee.
The
property
is
on
the
national
register
of
historic
places
as
such
twice
it
has
been.
A
gated
Resort
currently
is
a
gated
Resort
and
is
factually,
as
you
said,
Mr
Henny,
a
non-conforming
use
under
any
iteration
of
the
CPO,
whether
it
be
in
1999
or
today.
N
We
have
subdivision
plans,
Road,
cross
sections
correspondence
with
up
with
engineers
and
Architects
and
Road
planners
and
and
officials
from
1958
detailing
the
future
build
out.
These
items
are
important
to
understand,
especially
when
considering
the
task
of
preparing
for
the
future,
because
we
need
to
understand
in
the
past
when
considering
zoning
changes.
N
The
second
thing
is
the
uniqueness
of
the
property.
There
have
been
there's
been
a
ton
of
misinformation,
significant
misinformation
regarding
my
property,
so
I
want
to
set
the
record
straight
with
facts:
I'm
not
making
this
up
out
of
thin
air.
It's
all
based
in
science,
math
engineering
work
and
the
product
of
millions
of
dollars
of
survey,
work
that
I've
completed
to
date
and
haven't
been
required
to
Pine.
Island
is
the
single
highest
and
driest
parcel
of
land
of
its
size
in
Beaufort,
County
property
is
502
acres
and
only
has
five
acres
of
wetlands.
N
The
whole
thing,
96
percent
of
the
property,
is
sand.
79
of
that
property
of
that
sand
is
classified
as
A1,
meaning
that
it's
the
most
well
drained
in
the
entire
County.
The
property
has
over
seven
and
a
half
miles
of
Shoreline
deep
water
shoreline,
38
762
linear
feet,
the
Bluffs
range
from
20
to
45
feet
in
the
air.
It's
high
and
dry,
the
property's
been
gated
for
60
years.
It
actually
has
two
gates
and
those
gates
are
grandfathered
into
any
subsequent
development.
N
The
entire
property
has
power
powered
by
dominion
and
has
water
provided
by
Beaver
Jasper.
That
goes
all
the
way
out
to
the
island.
The
island
portion
of
my
property
is
actually
developed.
It
has
been
developed
since
the
turn
of
the
century
and
is
the
only
developed
part
of
the
property.
Unlike
what
most
people
have
been
told,
it
also
has
power
and
water.
Like
I
just
said
it
has
established
access
a
bridge
in
a
Causeway,
and
there
are
people
that
live
there.
There
are
zero
cemeteries
on
my
property.
N
We
got
people
running
around
everywhere,
saying
that
there's
15
of
them
that's
a
lie.
We've
done
the
work
in
order
to
ensure
that
this
Planning
Commission
heard
from
my
archaeologist
at
the
very
head
of
the
archeology
team
that
did
the
work
in
Mitchellville.
We
selected
them
intentionally
and
dug
over
thirty
thousand
holes
three
times
the
state
standards
and
did
it
to
the
standards
of
the
Department
of
Education.
So
we
could
invite
kids
to
come
out
and
further
our
work.
Children
I've
been
saying
this
for
two
years.
N
All
these
facts
add
up
to
a
unique,
extremely
unique
scenario
on
an
extremely
unique
piece
of
property.
Pine
Island
is
the
single
most
developable
piece
of
land
on
Saint
Helen
Island.
It
has
the
required
soils
required
water
access,
topography
and
all
the
elements
developers
look
for
when
assessing
a
piece
of
property
to
develop.
What
you've
been
told
to
the
con
is
to
the
contrary.
Those
are
the
facts.
N
N
Let
me
tell
you
why
the
committee
and
the
broader
public
are
being
told
that
I'm
trying
to
get
out
of
the
rules.
That's
not
the
case.
We
haven't
solved
the
problem
that
Saint
Helena
faces.
Not
me,
I
don't
have
a
problem.
The
intent
of
the
CPO,
as
Rob
stated,
was
to
prevent
was
to
protect
natural
indoor
cultural
resources
found
on
Saint
Helen
Island.
The
way
that
it's
supposed
to
do
this
is
to
prevent
rural
gentrification
and
displacements
of
residents.
T2
is
supposed
to
do
that,
as
well
as
the
Planning
Commission.
N
N
O
N
The
development
of
my
property
is
inevitable.
We
have
now
have
an
opportunity
to
shape
this
in
a
manner
that's
beneficial
to
the
community.
The
first
option
that
one,
if
we
remove
the
property
from
the
CPO,
it
will
allow
me
to
reduce
residential
density
by
over
60
percent
and
have
zero
new
permanent
residents.
This
aligns
with
the
intent
of
the
CPO
because
it
prevents
gentrification,
because
nobody
will
live
here
full
time.
They
don't
need
anything.
Urban
goods
and
services
I'll
reduce
dock
density
by
over
90
percent.
N
This
aligns
with
the
language
of
the
CPU
because
it
protects
waterways,
which
is
a
noted
cultural
resource.
I,
will
permanently
keep
over
80
percent
of
the
property
as
open
space
and
green
space.
This
aligns
with
the
intent
of
the
CPO,
because
it's
tied
to
the
natural
environment
I've
created
a
foundation
that
will
be
seated
and
funded
in
perpetuity
to
support
local
organizations
and
businesses
battling
against
cultural
loss.
N
In
order
to
do
these
things,
I
need
a
business.
I
need
an
engine
that
business
yeah,
it's
a
golf
course,
but
a
golf
course
can't
displace
residents,
especially
on
a
property
that
I
already
bought
with
no
residence
on
it.
A
golf
course
cannot
raise
property
taxes
for
other
residents
of
the
area.
Commercial
uses
are
not
comped
against
Residential
uses
period,
That's,
How,
property
taxes
work.
In
my
opinion,
that
should
be
considered.
N
N
N
Other
people
tonight
it's
corroborate,
but
this
is
the
opposite
of
what
developers
do
the
exact
opposite
red
herring,
this
red
herring
that
I've
been
saying
it
for
two
years
if
I
wanted
to
build,
166
I
wouldn't
be
here
in
the
first
place.
The
second
option
is
a
gated
residential
community
of
166
homes,
166
SEPTA
tanks,
166
Wells
and
over
100
docks.
This
is
the
only
other,
economically
viable
use
of
the
property.
N
It's
zoned
for
this
today,
I've
taken
all
the
necessary
steps
to
maximize
the
return
on
my
investment,
using
the
rationale
and
intent
of
the
CPO,
which
is
preventing
rural
displacement.
The
ramifications
of
this
option
are
significant,
it'll,
add
500
new
residents.
That's
synonymous
with
rapid
and
migration
it'll
generate
over
500
000
new
cars
on
the
roads.
It'll
add
over
a
hundred
kids
to
the
school
system.
B
N
Will
change
the
voting
Dynamics
for
the
entire
area
and
it
may
likely
increase
property
taxes
across
Saint
Helena
and
it
may
actually
incentivize
other
people
that
own
waterfront
property
to
comp
against
me.
These
aren't
threats.
These
are
options.
I'm
searching
for
a
way
to
work
within
the
system,
but
I
need
to
recognize.
I
need
everyone
to
recognize
that
we
have
to
do
this
together,
not
screaming
and
yelling
at
each
other,
overcoming
Collective
problems,
another
tasks
of
the
Planning
Commission,
which
you
guys
do
a
great
job
of
taking
all
the
information
and
making
a
recommendation.
N
That's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
in
the
community
natural
resources.
The
broader
county
is
of
the
utmost
concern.
If
we
can
agree
that
new
Resident
ads
are
the
single
largest
threat
to
gentrification
displacement.
Today's
decision
we
got
to
overcome
the
problem
together.
The
problem
is
misinformation,
number
one
that
166
isn't
real.
It's
very
real.
We've
done
two
and
a
half
years
of
work
to
go
down
that
path.
It
requires
zero
input
from
anybody,
except
for
the
zoning
director
in
the
SRT
room,
which
we've
already
done.
N
Activists
are
saying
they
can
affect
the
outcome
of
my
development.
That's
not
true.
They'll
have
zero
effect
on
the
outcome
of
my
development,
regardless,
even
if
they
did,
new
residents
will
still
be
added.
Somehow
you
know
they
bring
it
down
for
166
to
130
right,
that's
495,
new
residents.
Problem
number
two
is
the
spread
of
this
misinformation.
N
We've
had
campaigns
created
against
me
and
my
property.
That's
only
going
to
be
detrimental
to
the
community
that
they're
pretending
to
protect
people
are
being
told
that
a
golf
course
would
create
land
loss.
It
can't
it's
a
product
of
new
Resident
ads
they're
being
told
the
development
will
destroy
their
way
of
life.
We
actually
want
to
be
helpful
in
helping
that
persevere
and
support
it.
They're
being
told
the
property
tax
are
going
to
Skyrocket
if
I
build
a
golf
course.
We've
been
over
that
it's
not
how
it
works.
N
P
N
N
There
are
a
total
of
five
other
Parcels
on
Saint
Helena.
That
could
support
that
have
the
size
to
support
a
golf
course.
They
don't
have
the
requisite
soils
or
the
access
to
do
it,
even
if
they
did
if
they
wanted
to
build
a
golf
course
and
I'm
willing
to
commit
to
all
of
these
things
contractually
in
perpetuity.
N
Q
N
They'd
be
taking
cars
off
the
road
and
new
Resident
ads,
which
is
the
goal
of
the
CPO.
That's
a
win,
they
won't,
but
they
might,
and
if
they
did
it'd
be
a
good
thing.
Planning
Commission,
you
guys
have
to
use
your
Collective
wisdom,
I'm,
hoping
to
help
overcome
these
Collective
problems.
I
have
a
problem.
This
is
the
first
time
I.
Think
I've
used
all
my
time
that
I've
had.
G
A
N
N
The
the
people
are
being
told
they're,
making
an
informed
decision.
They've
made
an
informed
Choice,
that's
not
the
case
if
they
haven't
been
given
the
facts,
and
these
are
the
facts.
It's
unclear
to
me
how
staff
could
come
to
the
conclusion
that
moving
the
boundaries
of
the
CPO
exclude
to
exclude
this
parcel
would
erode
the
effectiveness
of
the
CPO
by
allowing
the
rare
uses
that
are
identified
as
the
largest
greatest
threat
to
the
area.
N
The
plan
I'm
pursuing,
adds
zero.
It's
a
commercial
use
that
has
zero
impact
on
residential
taxes,
doesn't
create
gentrification.
It
creates
a
recurring
Revenue
business
that
provides
committed
annual
resources
back
into
the
community.
The
plan
that
I
may
be
forced
to
do
like
we've
said:
May,
introduce
500
new
residents,
significant
stresses
on
infrastructure
in
the
environment
and,
most
importantly,
it'll,
introduce
New
Lots
at
an
extremely
high
price
point
to
the
local
market,
which
could
lead
to
the
ripple
effect
that
everyone's
talking
about
the
comprehensive
plan
is
a
guide.
It's
not
always
right.
N
N
N
Your
task
is
to
prepare
for
the
future,
overcome
Collective
problems
and
allow
for
orderly
planning
that
protects
the
environment
in
the
broader
County.
For
you
today
is
a
decision
that
will
shape
the
very
future
of
Saint
Helena
Island
forever.
You
have
a
team.
We've
got
17
people
that
all
put
their
hands
in
to
commit
to
this.
That
want
to
dedicate
to
being
part
of
the
solution
that
requires
decision
of
leadership
on
behalf
of
you,
I
agree
that
the
most
important
cultural
resource
is
the
people
themselves.
So,
let's
act
like
it.
N
L
N
L
I
I,
don't
think
we
are
in
the
business
here
tonight
of
compromising
with
you,
sir,
that
we're
I'm
trying
to
elicit
a
fact.
Do
you
have
a
document
to
those
to
whom
you
have
sold
Lots,
whether
they
are
investors
and
speculators
or
whether
they
intend
to
move
here?
Whether
or
not
they
choose
to
live
here?
And
your
document
says
you
can
only
live
here.
Six
months
of
the
year
or
July,
August
and
September
or
January
to
May,
you
haven't
answered
Michael,
it's
a
simple
question.
N
C
N
A
E
N
Yeah
so
there's
a
gate.
The
reason
I'm
figured
that
the
reason
that
people
don't
realize
that
it's
gated
is
because
the
gate
is
about
150
yards
inside
the
property,
but
it's
there
and
dated
59
years
ago.
Thank.
A
A
Other
questions:
Mr,
tropiano;
okay,
we're
ready
for
public
comments;
just
a
couple
of
things
again,.
A
I've
got
a
list
of
34
speakers
actually
give
three
minutes
each
we're
here,
till
8
30,
just
30
minutes
7.
A
Had
so
I'm
going
to
ask
this,
if
you
hear
things
said
before
you
get
to
your
particular
turn
to
speak,
please
try
to
avoid
being
redundant
or
repetitive.
It's
not
going
to
be
productive.
A
We
would
like
to
hear
as
many
different
inputs
as
you
care
to
provide,
but
again
I
would
say.
First
of
all,
if
you
can
stick
to
your
three
minutes,
we
have
a
clock
up
here,
to
remind
you,
I
would
say,
be
respectful
in
your
comments,
we're
not
going
to
debate
you
we're
just
here
to
listen
to
you
and
gather
that
input
and
as
I
mentioned
to
you,
this
is
a
recorded
meeting.
A
So
all
of
your
comments
will
become
a
matter
of
public
record
that
can
be
viewed
for
as
long
as
they
have
the
videos
available
and
we're
again
an
advisory
body
to
County
Council
and,
as
such,
make
a
recommendation,
the
final
decision
being
that
of
the
County
Council
in
a
public
meeting.
Okay.
That
will
accompany
that.
A
So
with
that
in
mind,
I'm
going
to
start
with
the
first
Speaker
I
will
mention
your
name
and
hopefully
get
it
correct,
and
if
you
would
just
come
up
and
again
state
your
name
and
location
for
the
record,
you're
being
you're
being
televised.
So
by
all
means
please
be
respectful
of
that
and
the
people
who
are
not
here
as
well.
S
We
greatly
appreciate
your
past
support.
I
can't
tell
you
how
much
it
means
to
the
residents
of
Saint
Helena
to
the
dated
question.
1958
Eisenhower
was
President.
They
never
followed
through.
This
was
just
a
concept
that
was
submitted.
The
argument
that
it
was
still
good
in
1999
41
years
later
is
ludicrous.
S
The
developer
often
calls
his
proposed
gated
private
golf
resort,
a
legacy
development.
Sadly,
the
Legacy
would
be
the
destruction
of
the
goligichi
culture
on
Saint
Helena
Island,
an
exaggeration,
no,
the
fusky
John's.
G
A
I
have
I
know
I'm
going
to
miss
this
because
I'm
this
I
can't
read
some
of
the
writing.
Elder
looks
like
Jack
45
Ladson
Road
I
got
the
right
direction.
45
lots.
U
U
Well,
that's
the
first
allow
you
told
I'm
passed
in
the
church
with
a
deacon
that
worked
at
that
place
until
he
died,
so
I
know
about
it.
I
know
all
about
it.
I
was
born
and
raised
on
Sunday
on
an
island.
I
might
look
35,
but
I
soon
be
89.,
and
thank
you,
sir,
for
the
statement
you
made.
It
happened
on
Hilton
Head.
U
All
this
good
talk
that
these
Builders
become
to
purchase
the
land.
If
I
put
from
the
Bible,
the
Bible
said
wise
is
build
up
with
first
take
time
out
and
count
up
the
cost.
When
you
bought
that
piece
of
property,
you
should
have
searched
it
out,
contact
some
of
the
people
on
sin
Helena
and
see
whether
it
was
feasible
enough
for
you
to
put
a
government.
We
don't
want
no
golf
course
on
tonight.
U
U
U
So
what
I'm
saying
to
the
councilman
here
this
afternoon,
the
last
time
I
was
here,
we
boarded
unanimous
that
we
would
not
have
nothing
over
there.
I
don't
even
see.
Why
is
this
meeting
you're
going
to
result
mean
when
you
resolve
something
you're
taking
it
out
of
the
other
Zone
that
it
was
in
and
he
will
be
feasible
to
build
what
he
wants?
I
bought
no
against
Republicans
on
it
and
I
hope
everybody
on
Center
Helena
do
the
same.
Thank.
V
V
V
V
V
Do
we
have
enough
water
pressure
coming
on
to
Helena
Island
to
support
all
these
other
things
that
we
want
to
put
there
to
right?
Now?
No,
we
don't
I
just
went
and
rebuilt
in
the
same
spot
where
my
house
burnt
down
at
when
I
got
done.
Somebody
decided
that
they're
going
to
call
to
the
building
department
and
said
I.
Don't
he
didn't
have
a
permit
to
build
a
garage,
but
I
did
have
a
permit.
V
So
when
they
come
in,
they
told
me
hey
this
big
word:
y'all
Zone,
you
have
to
have
you
in
the
zoning
area.
I
said:
okay,
what
you
need!
We
need
to
have
a
cop
plan
showing
everything.
I
said
well:
I
got
a
prop
plan,
I
had
it
for
52
years
in
the
area
where
I
live.
Guess
what
happened?
No,
you
have
to
go
and
get
another
one.
I
said:
well,
the
land
didn't
move,
it
didn't
go
anywhere,
yeah,
it's
still
there.
The
storms
are
still
there.
I
have
to
spend
one
thousand
dollars
y'all.
V
Yeah
we're
together,
but
I'm
just
telling
you
Jordan
gonna,
leave
to
a
change
the
chance
gonna,
be
that
the
things
before
they
said
in
Bluffton
that
decided
the
fusky
that
they
said
in
Hilton
had
and
if
they
said
the
Bluffton
on
Oster,
faster,
Road,
Everything's,
Gonna
Change,
don't
believe
that
it
won't
be
a
change
after
everybody
who
used
to
live
in
Hilton
had
Bluffton
coloradoville.
It
will
be
a
change.
No
is
the
answer.
Thank.
T
O
Is
Richardson
labruse
I'm
with
finger
Mountain,
Brooks
and
lebruce
and
on
Hilton
Head,
and
we
have
been
retained
by
the
county
to
represent
the
Planning
Commission
here,
not
the
applicant,
not
the
county,
but
the
Planning
Commission.
For
that
reason,
I
just
want
to
reiterate
what
the
chairman
has
said.
It
is
imperative
that
anybody
who
is
speaking
speak
into
the
microphone
and
try
to
direct
communication
to
the
Planning
Commission
that
way
the
recorders
and
the
people
who
are
maybe
viewing
this
online
or
at
home
are
able
to
hear
as
well.
O
W
My
name
is
Mike
Hughes
with
Thomason
engineering
company,
so
there
was
a
little
bit
conversation
about
way
of
life
and
and
the
property
not
changing
the
property
will
change
one
way
or
another.
It
will
be
developed.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
very
clear:
the
property
is
getting
developed
and
way
of
life.
W
We
will
do
our
best
to
protect
the
water
quality
regardless
if
it's
166
Lots
or
if
it's
50
and
a
golf
course
so
water
quality
aside
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
will
do
our
best
to
make
sure
we're
adhering
to
the
requirements
of
the
code
for
water,
quality
protection
and
the
environment.
So
the
application
was
reviewed
and
there
were
basically
nine
I
think
nine
categories
for
assessing
whether
the
zoning
amendment
should
be
considered,
and
if
you
look
at
the
nine
right
initially
it
goes
through
and
it
runs
through.
W
Is
it
consistent
with
the
further
goals
of
the
policy
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
then
it
lists
the
primary
threat
to
long-term
viability
of
Beaufort
County
you
go
look.
Each
Community
is
Land
Development
again.
Our
goal
is
to
reduce
development.
Our
goal
is
to
reduce
density,
so
I
would
say
we
are
more
consistent
than
the
current
zoning
to
meet
that
intent
and.
W
W
W
W
W
P
W
W
What
a
result
in
development,
adequate
services
and
public
facilities
we
will
ensure
it
is
easy
for
us
to
meet
the
public
facilities
needs
if
we
do
50
versus
166,
but
either
way
we
will
also
have
sufficient
uses
for
the
amenities
in
the
public
services
that
are
out
there.
So
that's
what
I
have
thank.
G
Foreign
McCauley's
66
delamo
Bluff
I,
am
a
neighbor
directly
impacted
by
any
development
to
Saint
helenaville
and
Pine
Island
I'm,
an
educator,
a
history
guide,
conservationist
and
founder
of
adaptive.
Golf
I
am
adamantly
opposed
to
a
proposal
that
we
remove
more
than
500
Acres
from
the
CPO
ignores
the
community
concerns
public
rallies
petitions
and
would
set
a
very
detrimental
precedent
to
the
future
of
Saint
Helena.
G
At
no
point
in
time
over
the
past
two
years
has
the
developer
reached
out
to
those
of
us
directly
impacted
the
power
lines
to
Pine
Island
go
right
through
our
yards
in
delamo,
and
this
property
has
clearly
been
in
the
CPO
in
contrary
to
a
statement
in
the
the
appeal.
It
was
not
a
mistake
that
the
property
is
in
the
CPO.
The
communities
that
were
excluded
had
guards
at
Gates,
not
dirt
roads.
With
pasture
Gates
I
note
in
the
history,
the
former
owner
had
merely
a
goal
to
expand
into
a
recreational
and
housing
area.
G
Let's
be
real.
This
is
a
proposal
to
create
a
gated
community
with
multi-million
dollar
houses
with
an
exclusive
golf
course
that
will
not
benefit
any
of
us
and
will
create
menial
jobs,
Drive
potential
to
raise
our
taxes
and
displace
many
who
live
in
this
area.
Zero
new
residents
does
that
imply
short-term
rentals,
we're
already
dealing
with
some
of
these
impacts.
Now,
looking
at
an
interview
on
the
Island
packet,
I
can
assure
you
we
are
not
misguided
and
clearly
can
see
the
pressure
a
developer
would
have
with
his
investors.
G
Y
X
Lenhart
with
the
South
Carolina
environmental
law
project
and
I
am
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
galagichi
Sea
Island
Coalition
Queen
could
not
be
here
she's
in
Washington
D.C,
advocating
for
the
galagichi
culture,
but
she
did
submit
comments
of
written
comments
to
you
today
and
I
would
like
to,
for
the
record,
highlight
some
of
those
for
you
tonight.
We
are
asking
that
the
commission
support
the
staff.
We
very
much
appreciate
the
staff's
recommendation
to
deny
these
rezoning
and
we
feel
that
this
property
should
not
be
singled
out
with
this
re
rezoning.
X
We
oppose
any
of
the
zoning
changes.
All
of
the
properties
on
Saint,
Helena,
Island,
Pine,
Island
and
St
helenaville
should
remain
under
the
CPO
zoning
as
they
have
since
1999..
X
A
golf
course
is
a
golf
course
is
a
golf
course.
The
staff
has
clearly
recommended
denial
of
this
rezoning,
which
we
do
appreciate
very
much
on
Saint
Helena.
There
are
many
historic
sites:
there
are
waterways,
sacred
grounds
and
farmlands
Open,
Spaces
hunting
grounds
in
the
land
on
which
all
of
the
culture's
traditional
events
have
occurred.
X
X
X
A
P
Mr,
chair
and
members
of
the
commission,
my
name
is
Anthony
Jones
I'm
at
42
Robin
and
Clara
Trail
on
Saint
Helena
I'm,
a
64-year
resident
of
Beaufort
County,
a
20-year
resident
of
Saint
Helena
I
have
family
members
who
were
born
and
raise
there
on
sent
home.
My
step-grandfather
has
one
of
the
main
Patriarchs
of
persons
that
purchased
property,
Mr
Pompey
cokson
many
folks
would
know
he's
on
one
of
the
members
that
purchased
land
shortly
after
enslavement.
P
This
is
another
situation
where
someone
comes
in
have
only
been
here
for
two
years
and
now
I
want
to
see
a
change
and
said
that
they're
going
to
be
a
savior
of
all
I'm
glad
you
all
opened
the
meeting
with
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
on
the
cold
January
afternoon
they're
at
cap,
Samson
caps
Saxon
in
the
Diary
of
General
higginson.
P
He
mentioned
of
how
how
the
soldiers
look
and
how
the
ceremony,
when
they
began
to
read
the
Emancipation,
Proclamation
and
spirit
out
of
that
came
the
the
song
My
tis,
my
country,
tis
of
thee,
sweet
land
of
liberty,
and
he
said
that
that
took
over
because
he
realized
that
that
was
the
first
time
that
the
formerly
enslaved
could
now
say.
This
is
our
country.
P
P
This
is
where
the
galagichi
culture
came
and
and
was
first
ins
freed
in
November
of
1861..
P
Z
Thank
you
good
evening.
My
name
is
Ernestine
Adkins
at
36
Atkins
Bluff,
Beaufort,
South
Carolina
right
across
the
road
from
Warsaw
Island,
but
my
family
were
raised
Born
and
Raised
on
Saint
Helena
I'm.
Also
a
Papillon
owner
office
in
Helen,
Island
I,
come
before
you
this
afternoon,
to
tell
you
that
since
1993
or
through
95
I
was
on
the
Pen
Center
planning
on
board
to
help
present
or
help
save
the
CPO
to
be
in
place.
We
went
to
a
club.
Z
So
today,
I'm
here
to
ask
you
to,
we
will
know
exceptions
to
the
CPO
Penn
Center
respectfully
have
asked
and
help
the
community
to
preserve
Saint
Helena
Island.
In
every
meeting
that
we
have
had,
we
always
ask
people
to
help
preserve
Saint,
Helen,
Island
I.
Don't
want
to
repeat
some
things
that
were
said
earlier.
Z
There's
some
tail
that
has
been
told
about
Pine
Island.
This
has
been
Charlotte
Fortin,
the
first
teacher
at
the
Penn
centers
in
1982.
poet.
She
lived
in
that
house
that
was
on
Pine
Island,
whether
you
know
it
or
not.
History
repeats
itself,
and
he
said
there
are
no
other
artifacts
on
the
island.
Yeah
I
I.
Z
Just
don't
believe
that
I
just
don't
believe
that
as
I
was
told
from
my
great-grand
uncle,
he
lived
over
there
at
some
point
and
I
know
you
told
me
there's
some
Indians
or
someone
was
buried
over
there,
so
whether
he
found
it
or
not
where
they
were
I,
don't
know,
but
I
truly
believe
that
that's
not
true,
we
cherish
in
hell.
Now
we
really
really
do
again.
We
don't
want
anyone
to
come
into
our
community.
Z
If
you
said
he
was
working
on
for
two
years,
but
doggone,
I'm,
76
and
I
must
be
working
on
25
years,
trying
to
reserves
in
Helena
Island
who's
going
to
have
someone
to
come
to
come
say
what
we're
going
to
do
you,
as
the
planning
board,
needs
to
show
respect
you
represent
us.
You
have
to
help
us
do
this.
How
many
of
you
live
on
tin,
Helen,
Island,
one?
Z
AA
Good
evening
planning
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Jesse
White
and
I'm,
the
South
Coast
office
director
for
the
coastal
conservation
League
here
in
Beaufort,
despite
the
clear
and
consistent
message
from
the
Saint
Helena
Community
over
the
past
six
months
and
truly
over
the
past
24
plus
years
that
golf
courses,
Resorts
and
gated
communities
have
no
place
on
the
island.
We
are
back
before
you
this
evening,
because
the
developer
continues
to
press
for
a
special
exception
to
the
local
zoning
rules
in
order
to
build
something
that
is
expressly
prohibited.
AA
We
commend
staff
for
a
thorough
report
outlining
how
the
proposed
rezoning
of
the
Pine
Island
Property
to
remove
it
from
the
CPO
boundaries
fails
to
satisfy
any
of
the
code
requirements
for
such
a
request.
We
further
commend
staff
for
rejecting
the
thinly
veiled
attempt
to
evade
the
cpo's
prohibition
on
Golf
Course
uses
by
subdividing
the
property
and
desired
18-hole
Golf
Course
into
three
Parcels
of
six
holes
each.
AA
Both
these
requests
fly
in
the
face
of
Decades
of
thoughtful
and
intentional
long-term
planning
in
Northern,
Beaver
County
and
everything
the
Saint
Helena
Community
has
stood
for
and
remained
consistently
United
around
for
decades.
That
golf
courses,
gated
communities
and
Resorts
directly
threaten
the
sustainability
of
Saint
Helena's
living
golegichi
culture,
land
ownership
and
Rural
way
of
life.
Our
rules
exist
for
a
reason
and
the
Saint
Helena
Community
has
worked
diligently
to
defend
the
cpo's
long-standing
protections
for
their
islands
that
prohibit
Golf,
Resorts
and
gated
developments.
AA
The
requests
were
special
carve
out
to
build
precisely
what
is
prohibited
is
an
insult.
This
was
just
reinforced
by
Beaufort
County
Council
on
May
8,
following
the
recommendation
of
this
Planning
Commission
well
before
the
adoption
of
the
1999
zoning
laws
and
comprehensive
plan
master
plan
communities
located
nearby
but
outside
of
Saint
Helena,
like
data
Frip
and
Harbor
Islands,
had
already
obtained
their
development
approvals.
AA
The
proposal
for
rezoning
and
the
appeals
directly
contravene
the
policies
and
goals
of
the
Planning
Commission
or
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
as
well
as
the
intent
of
the
CPO
and
the
letter
of
that
law,
as
originally
envisioned
in
1999.
It
has
always
prohibited
Golf
Course
developments,
gated
communities
and
resorts
a
private
fence
is
not
the
same
thing
as
a
gated
community
and
historic
use
as
a
private
recreational
Retreat
is
not
the
same
thing
as
a
resort.
Please
uphold
the
Integrity
of
the
CPO
and
reject
these
proposals.
AB
I
think
that
it's
important
that
you
do
consider
the
facts,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
you
interpret
them
according
to
the
comprehensive
plan
to
the
applicable
regulations
that
you
have
and
to
come
to
the
decision
that
I
think
the
staff
appropriately
came
to
that
this
is
spot
zoning.
This
is
not
really
appropriate
to
try
to
take
one
large
500,
acre
tract
out
of
a
protective
zoning
code.
AB
That's
been
in
place
for
over
24
years
now
and
which
has
the
unique
opportunity
to
protect
a
culture,
something
that's
been
internationally
and
nationally
recognized
the
fact
that
a
a
piece
of
private
property
has
a
gate
and
that
their
family
and
friends
or
invitees
come
and
use.
It
is
not
a
resort.
AB
A
golf
course
is
really
just
a
golf
course
in
1999
and
since
it
was
first
defined
in
the
dictionary
in
1890s,
the
golf
course
is
either
9
or
18
holes.
And
so
that's
what
the
definition
says
in
the
code.
But
in
fact
the
industry
and
within
the
last
10
to
15
years,
has
started
building
such
as
at
the
Carlton
River
Club.
AB
Certainly
some
limited
amount
of
that
may
be
appropriate
in
the
CPO
somewhere,
but
at
this
point
the
removal
of
500
acres
for
some
unknown
project,
whether
it's
going
to
be
the
threat
of
one
thing
or
the
threat
of
another,
is
really
not
before
you
right
now
is
the
removal
of
those
protections
from
a
very
large
area
of
the
county
that
should
be
maintained
before
any
type
of
development
is
considered.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
Thank
you.
Thank.
AD
Good
evening
planning
committee,
my
name
is
Marie
Gibbs
I
stand
here
this
evening,
a
long-term
resident
of
Saint
Helens
Allen
for
more
than
five
generations.
I
asked
you
to
uphold
the
CPO
plan
that
protects
the
way
of
life
for
us.
We
know
for
examples
what
we've
seen
over
the
years,
how
and
what
development
due
to
areas,
high
taxes,
loss
of
history
and
culture
and
displacement
of
the
Galaxy
people,
it's
very
easy
to
come
to
area
and
see
your
dreams,
not
realizing
this.
The
dream
is
already
here:
life
cannot
be
brought.
AD
We
are
not
we're
not
in
the
place
where
we're
at
War
100
years
ago.
We
are
very
educated
people
with
our
own
plan
for
our
Legacy
and
generation
wealth.
We
don't
have
to
be
saved
or
we
don't
need
a
savior
I
asked.
You
uphold
the
CPO
plan
that
that
you
asked
committee
to
strengthen,
as
they
did
father
law,
that
guided
development
on
Saint
Helens
Island
for
many
years.
Thank
you.
A
AC
Good
afternoon,
and
thank
you
for
your
time
this
afternoon
to
hey
Ross
statements,
it's
starting!
It's
starting!
You
hear
me
it's
starting
the
opening
of
another
Hilton
Head
Island
and
surrounding
Islands
on
Saint
Helena
Island.
We
don't
want
it.
This
is
disrespectful
for
us
to
come
back
before
you
again
and
plead
and
beg
for
you
to
uphold
the
CPO.
Please
continue
to
do
that
and
I.
Thank
you
for
upholding
it.
So
far
we
have
12
000
signatures
and
counting
to
the
developers
how
many
12
staff
members
17
staff
members.
AC
Is
there
any
petitions
that
were
presented
to
you
by
the
developer.
That
says
that
they
were
on
the
golf
course
us
speak
for
the
people
here:
Inez
Miller,
184,
Saxonville,
Road,
Saint,
Helena,
Island
I'm,
the
community
Woodland
advocate
for
the
center
for
as
property.
You
cannot
disrespect
the
people
like
this
or
the
residents
and
the
landowners
that
reside
somewhere
in
the
United
States
of
America.
They
have
a
state
day
on
Saint
Eleanor.
They
do
not
want
this.
The
traffic
ladies
Island
Middle
School
Beaufort,
High
School.
AC
It's
too
much
people
say
we
have
a
jewel
hay
on
Saint
Helena.
Let's
continue
to
protect
this
Jewel
stop
accounting,
my
dating
developers,
because
they
are
waiting
to
come
in
and
take
our
Jewel.
We
don't
want
this,
we
value
our
land
and
our
property
money
can't
buy
us.
We
don't
want
a
putt-putt
golf
course.
Either
no
means
no,
that's
what
your
parents
told
you
I'm
sure
you
all
heard
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
AE
A
AF
Name
is
star:
Dunbar
I
am
a
member
of
the
amazi
Indian
tribe,
Chief
gentle
grass,
that
he
was
not
able
to
come
so
I'm
speaking
on
his
behalf,
Chief
gentle
daily
educates.
Anyone
who
would
listen
to
the
value
of
our
culture
and
those
who
are
connected
to
our
tribe
and
to
stand
and
I
stand
before
you
tonight
and
state
that
we're
indeed
invested
in
the
preservation
of
the
culture
and
the
land
at
Pine
Island.
AF
We
have
an
intimate
relationship
with
the
galagichi
people,
because
we
have
fought
and
guided
them
to
safety,
and
once
again
we
are
faced
with
the
foreign
parties
wanting
to
force
their
ways
onto
native
lands
to
take
away
the
authentic
experience
of
the
people,
the
history.
We
cannot
continue
to
destroy
erase
or
ignore
the
culture
that
is
embedded
in
the
land,
the
souls
and
the
hearts
of
the
people,
they're
a
generation
of
people
from
the
past
present
and
future
who
are
and
will
be
disconnected
to
their
history.
AF
Can
you
imagine
not
knowing
or
having
documentation
or
artifacts
or
a
sacred
land
or
traditions
of
your
family
members
or
how
difficult
it
would
be
to
discover,
said
items
people
want
to
learn
their
history,
their
Roots
through
visiting
places
of
the
ancestors
who
lived,
fought
and
died
a
Goss
a
golf
course
undermines
the
sole
purpose
of
the
cultural
protection
overlay
Zone
and
would
not
benefit
this
cause.
We
cannot
allow
monetary
gains
to
outweigh
Priceless
culture.
History,
history
has
robbed
us
sorry.
History
has
robbed
educating
our
people.
AF
History
has
also
made
it
difficult
for
people
who
support
the
land
and
the
galagichi
or
who
would
possibly
would
want
to
learn
and
respect
the
respect.
The
culture
of
the
people
who
live
in
a
community.
Please
do
not
repeat
history
that
has
failed
our
people.
We
are
the
ambassy
Indian
tribe.
We
stand
with
preserving,
protecting
and
the
protection
of
the
Prime,
sorry
the
Pine
Island
for
generations
to
come.
Thank
you
thank.
Y
Many
of
people
here
in
this
room
tonight
spend
lots
of
time
with
the
children
of
Saint
Helena,
educating
them
teaching
them
the
culture,
helping
them
be
mentors.
What
kind
of
Precedence
would
it
set
if
we
tell
our
children
tomorrow
that
sorry
we're
giving
up
this
island
for
the
money
that
you
know,
we
don't
care
about
your
future.
Y
We
want
them
to
be
safe,
to
be
able
to
ride
their
bicycles,
to
be
able
to
go
kayaking,
to
be
able
to
find
jobs
that
are
not
necessarily
being
towel.
Folders
or
you
know,
be
service
Community.
We
want
them
to
be
able
to
choose
what
opportunities
they
have
and
through
this
mentoring
and
spending
more
time
with
them,
they'll
be
able
to
find
what
they
really
want
to
do
and
not
necessarily
be
of
service
to
communities
that
they
can't
even
go
into
as
a
resident
of
Saint
Helena.
Y
AG
I'm
Sally
Mays
I
live
for
Sun
dog.
Can
you
hear
me
now?
4
Sun
dog
Lane
St
Helena
Island.
More
than
two
decades
ago,
Beaufort
County
government
came
to
the
people
of
Saint
Helena
and
said:
what
is
it
you
all
want
see?
If
you
can
come
up
with
a
plan,
we
did.
We
didn't
just
fall
off
a
turnip
trucks,
we
got
to
work
and
we
came
up
with
a
CPO
more
than
two
decades
ago,
this
CPO
was
included
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
AG
AH
A
Y
AI
AI
The
developer
has
stated
on
numerous
occasions
that
this
is
always
that's.
Pine
Island
has
always
been
a
gated
community.
I
know
for
a
fact.
That
is
not
true,
because
I've
been
on
that
property
more
than
one
time
there
there's
a
gate
now
and
there
are
armed
guards
and
cameras,
but
there
wasn't
a
gate
until
he
purchased
the
property.
A
AI
T
And
y'all
my
name
is
Tom
Donahue
I
live
in
kusabo,
actually,
I
live
at
60
crusabo
first
I'd
like
to
say,
and
I
mentioned
this
at
another
meeting.
T
As
we
will
all
know,
the
love
of
money
is
the
root
of
all
evil
and
it's
out
of
control
in
this
world
today
and
we're
living
through
a
classic
example
of
it.
Right
now,
I've
been
here
five
years.
The
gulligichi
people
are
the
most
wonderful,
unique,
loving
kind
people
I
have
ever
met.
I'm
65
years
old,
I've
lived
up
and
down
the
coast,
I've
lived
in
Louisiana
and
some
out
little
out
west
I've
known
a
lot
of
different
people
and
and
their
culture
astounds
me
on
a
daily
basis
and
I
wish.
T
This
developer
had
done
more
research
before
he
made
this
decision
about
the
wishes
and
the
uniqueness
of
these
loving
people,
and
you
know
I
I
struggle
with
listening
to
him.
I've
been.
This
has
become
my
purpose
in
my
life,
I'm
now
retired.
So
I
got
to
do
something
anyway.
To
hear
the
gentleman
talk
about
facts,
facts,
facts!
Well,
you
know:
I
I
want
to
see
some
proof
of
these
facts,
but
I
I
wished
he
had
done.
T
His
research
I
feel
like
it's
time
for
him
to
gather
his
losses
and
go
home,
and
you
know
there's
other
things
that
can
be
done
with
this
property.
I
know
he
don't
want
to
walk
away
from
his
18
million
dollars,
but
for
goodness
sakes
you
know
we
as
a
people
can
come
together
with
an
alternative
plan
that
will
benefit
the
people
of
Saint.
Helena
will
benefit
the
children
in
educating
them,
teaching
them
about
the
the
the
the
environment
that
that
we
have
and
the
uniqueness
of
the
Low
Country.
T
You
know
I
moved
here
five
years
ago
and
you
could
go
out
and
find
some
clams
pretty
pretty
cool.
You
get
a
half
a
bucket
of
clams
in
a
few
hours
now
I
understand
there
aren't
no
clams
they're
hard
to
find
and
the
oysters
are
going
and
we
need
to
protect
what
we
have
left
the
other.
T
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
say
about
golf
courses,
is
you
know,
a
few
of
the
private
golf
courses
in
this
County
have
opened
to
the
public
because
they're
not
getting
any
golfers
there
Millennials
there
may
be
a
handful
of
them
that,
like
to
golf,
but
the
younger
Generations
younger
than
the
Millennials
they're,
not
interested
in
golfing,
you
know,
I
mean
a
golf
course
would
be
a
complete
waste
of
time
and
the
poison
that
goes
in
to
fertilize.
T
A
AJ
Paula
and
that's
okay
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name-
is
Elaine
Scott
I
live
at
181,
fret,
Point
Road,
Saint,
Helena,
Island,
South,
Carolina
I've
been
there
for
40
years
45
years,
I
I
need
some
clarification.
I
I
serve
on
the
CPO
committee,
I've
been
on
every
committee.
For
the
last
30
years,
too
County
lawyers
talk
to
us
about
a
Nexus
I
need
to
connect
the
dots
the
newspaper
reported.
There
were
40
meetings
between
the
county
and
Mr
tropiano.
AJ
Where
were
these
meetings
held?
Can
you
tell
me
more
about
how
the
staff
reached
out
to
the
citizens?
What
went
on
in
the
meetings
did
they
take
minutes
was
Mr
tropiano
encouraged
by
our
County
Employees
to
pursue
a
development
that
violated
our
comprehensive
plan,
and
our
protections,
as
laid
out
by
our
CPO,
was
Mr
tropiano
deceived.
AJ
What
would
motivate
the
county
to
encourage
this
violation
of
the
protections
that
represent
the
citizens
of
Saint
Helena
Island
since
1863,
when
the
first
land
sales
occurred
on
Saint,
Helena,
Island,
owning
land,
education
and
access
to
the
water
have
been
the
values
of
Saint
Helena
Island?
It's
clear.
We
still
Embrace
these
values.
It
occurs
to
us
that
the
monetary
agenda
of
others
and
possibly
County
Employees,
is
in
conflict
with
our
values.
We
know
the
county
wants
to
advance
the
economics
of
development.
AJ
We
know
how
the
dominoes
will
fall.
That's
why
we
wrote
Our
protections
I've
been
as
I
mentioned,
I've
been
on
every
committee
for
the
last
30
years,
I've
outstand,
Helena
and
I've.
Had
an
island,
Biz
I've
been
an
island
business
person
for
30
years,
I,
don't
care
what
you
call
us:
binyas
kamyas
gullahs,
guccis
anglos,
the
community
on
data,
all
people
of
Saint
Helena,
our
family.
AJ
AJ
Of
my
familiarity
and
my
relationships
with
the
people
of
Saint
Helena,
they
have
sought
my
voice
because
I
am
at
one
with
our
Island
family
I
humbly,
submit
that
I
speak
for
many.
Many
people
and
I
am
going
to
wager
that
everybody
in
this
room
speaks
for
many
many
people
and
we
do
this.
This
is
how
we
communicate
before
every
meeting
I
am
contacted
by
residents.
Look.
B
AJ
AJ
A
Eileen
looks
like
Williams
12,
waterborne,
Road.
A
AE
Good
evening
and
thank
you
for
this,
this
opportunity
in
the
state
of
South,
Carolina
and
many
other
states,
a
disclosure
document
is
required
from
the
seller
and
from
what
I've
heard
from
the
investor
he's
been
here
two
years,
so
he
was
fully
aware
of
what
he
was
purchasing
and
the
terms
and
conditions
and
the
CPO
and
the
rules
and
regulations
governing
Pine
Island.
As
far
as
the
appeal
I
know,
he
has
a
right
to
appeal,
but
a
successful
appeal
needs
to
include
something
that
some
malfeasance
or
something
that
was
done
wrong.
AE
AE
B
AE
From
the
CPO
okay,
that
is
not
a
real
estate
term.
That
is
not
a
planning.
It's
not
in
the
real
estate
dictionary
and
it's
not
in
the
planning
dictionary.
It's
lipstick
on
a
peak,
it's
either
annexation
or
spot
zoning
spot.
Zoning
is
illegal
in
many
states
and
I
believe
it's
illegal
in
the
state
of
South
Carolina.
Also,
look
it
up
on
Google
right
now,
spot
zoning.
AE
AE
The
investor
is
responsible
for
his
own
investments.
Just
like
you
and
I
are
responsible
for
what
we
invested.
What
we
invest
in
just
like
Warren,
Buffett,
Bill,
Gates,
Kramer,
everyone
else.
They
are
responsible
for
their
investment.
South
Carolina
Beaufort
County
is
not
responsible
for
bailing
him
out.
AE
As
far
as
the
statement
that
is
already
a
gated
community.
That
is
not
true.
There's
not
if
you
want
to
know.
What's
gated
ask
a
real
estate
broker,
that's
been
in
business
for
30
or
40
years.
They
would
not
list
that
listed
as
a
gated
community.
There's
no
association,
no
covenants
restrictions,
no
bylaws,
no
members,
Sea
Pines
is
gated.
Wexford
is
gated.
Shipyard
is
gated
football
in
this
gated
daughter,
Harbor
he's
not
it's
not
the
same
thing:
it's
not
a
gated
community.
AE
The
United
States
Supreme
Court
will
hold
up
zoning
laws
so
when
they
get
up
here
and
say,
I
will
do
this.
Well,
you
need
to
get
past
the
United
States,
the
Supreme
Court,
the
commercial
I,
heard
the
word
commercial
used.
Also,
that's
not
Zone
zoning
Pub
house,
restaurants,
those
are
commercial
buildings.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
R
Good
evening
I'm,
a
local
Beaufort
resident
for
over
20
years
I've
been
a
low
country
native
for
about
45
years.
This
is
something.
G
R
R
R
R
The
facts
here:
I
am
a
developer
and
I
believe
in
conservation-minded
development.
Now
support
conservation,
I
think
what
Kristen
Williams
is
doing
with
open
land
trust
is
phenomenal.
She
deserves
a
round
of
applause
on
her
staff.
I
wish
more
developers
would
do
more
conservation-minded
development,
I
believe
in
density
reduction,
I
believe
in
listening
to
the
people
and
whether
Everyone
likes
what's
happening
or
not.
I
don't
know.
If
anyone
really
wants
a
golf
course.
Joking
I
can
clearly
read
the
room.
R
However,
golf
allowed
the
gentleman
who
purchased
the
property,
the
ability
to
reduce
densities
and
to
do
what
he
wanted
to
do.
It
was
an
idea.
It
was
vetted
through
multiple
local
leaders.
Multiple
pastors
local
people
chose
some.
Some
local
people
chose
not
to
meet
with
Mr
Elvia
I.
Don't
know
why.
I
think
that
that
I.
G
R
Can
easily
talk
with
anyone,
his
door
is
always
open.
Council
members
have
met
with
him
and
been
on
the
property,
so
this
didn't
just
happen
overnight.
I
firmly
respect
and
believe
the
culture
when
I
was
in
high
school
I
spent
my
Summers
volunteering
at
Penn
Center
through
Bethany,
United,
Methodist,
Church,
so
I
deeply
love
the
community
and
I
will
do
nothing
to
harm
it.
A
A
R
R
A
AK
My
name's
Samuel,
Cooper
and
I
live.
Excuse
me
at
909,
Inman
Street
in
the
city
of
Beaufort
and
Mr
tropiano
started
his
comments
by
saying
he
wanted
to
appeal
to
Common
Sense,
which
I'd
sort
of
like
to
do
myself,
and
he
also
has
said
in
the
newspaper
and
here
today
that
he
wants
to
be
part
of
the
solution
and
not
part
of
the
problem.
AK
AK
What
I
think
there's
a
principle
called
Caveat
Emptor
that
says,
if
you
buy
something
you
you
own
it
and
then
you're,
responsible
and
I,
think
you
folks
have
enough
I'm
sure
you
do
actually
because
you've
been
dealing
with
this
for
a
long
time
not
to
buy
into
the
idea
that
we've
got
to
bail
him
out
this.
AK
AL
Good
evening,
sir,
my
name
is
Craig
Reeves
I
live
at
13
Mystic
Circle
in
Beaufort,
but
I
have
a
business
on
Saint,
Helena,
34,
Hallmark,
Road
I'm,
not
here
to
advocate
for
or
against,
but
doing
my
research.
This,
if
you
guys,
are
aware
of
what
this
is
scares
me
to
death
I'm,
a
commercial
fisherman.
My
whole
life
Generations
I'm
pretty
much
opposed
to
development,
because
I
see
what
happens
to
our
estuaries
and
our
nurseries
in
the
commercial
fishing
industry,
whether
it's
shrimp,
fish
or
crabs.
I
do
all
of
that.
AL
AL
I
know
it
comes
with
golf
for
some
reason,
golf
or
exclu
exclusivity
seems
to
be
a
detriment,
but
the
the
truth
is
the
CPO
allows
for
this,
and
this
is
very
bad
see
you
guys
can
stop
the
golf
course
and
50
homes
or
60
homes
and
very
little
impact
to
our
community,
or
you
can
just
say
no.
We
can't
do
a
golf
course
and
then
say:
yeah
you
can
go
build
165
homes,
which
increases
traffic
and
a
whole
lot
of
other
negative
things.
So
to
me,
it's
it's
a
lose.
AM
Hi
y'all.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
have
this
nice
little
thing
prepared.
My
name
is
Travis
Stewart
and
I
live
on
fruit,
Point
Road
on
Saint,
Helena
and
I'm
I'm.
You
know
I'm
I'm,
all
about
having
y'all
continue
down
the
path
of
protecting
the
many,
the
many
of
us
on
Saint,
Helena
and
and
work
for
the
benefit
of
us.
AM
The
folks
that
elected
you,
instead
of
the
few
that
want
to
do
what's
being
suggested,
the
many
galagichi
neighbors
and
ancestors
who've
toiled,
survived
and
thrived
on
the
lands
of
Saint
Helena
and,
more
importantly,
saint
helenaville.
AM
I
AM
AM
AM
I
am
a
golfer,
but
I
tend
not
to
shank
my
balls
into
the
waterways.
They
picked
up,
14
000
golf
balls
out
of
the
marsh
by
don't
tell
the
other
last
month
now,
there's
that's
not
habitat,
that's
habitat
destruction,
as
is
the
runoff
from
the
golf
course,
in
addition
to
all
the
lovely
yards
that
your
non-resident
Resort
owners
want
to
see
when
they
come
in
so
I'm
here
to
say,
please
say
no
I'm,
not
sure
what
to
say
yes
to,
and
you
know
I
mean
I.
AM
Just
I
I
want
to
I
want
to
say
help
us
I,
don't
know
that
we
need
anybody's
in
particular
help.
We
need
a
better
conversation
than
where
we're
going
and
so
for
now.
I'm
saying
let's
please
say
no
to
the
whims
of
the.
AK
AM
And
lakes,
take
care
of
the
money,
the
many
who
not
only
elected
y'all
that
are
in
this
room,
but
also
voted
at
one
percent
tax
increase
to
protect
habitat
and
conserve
Wild,
Spaces,
of
which
this
still
is,
even
though
it
is
still
a
private
land
and
I
realize
he's
got
some
rights
too.
So
sorry
I'm
letting
the
waters,
but,
let's
please
say
no
to
his
appeals
and
his
exception
to
this
CPA.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
B
A
The
end
of
the
comments
public
comments,
section
of
the
this
discussion,
we'll
bring
the
discussion
up
to
the
diet.
Are
there
any
comments.
L
I
just
have
a
clarification.
Many
people
brought
it
up
and
I
simply
don't
know
the
answer.
Is
it
fair
to
ask
Mr
tropiano
whom
he
met
with
and
how
many
people
he
met
with
I.
B
A
N
L
Sure
several
speakers
tonight
and
I
believe
in
the
Island
packet
Gazette
article
it
referenced
that
you
met
with
30
to
40
people
on
Saint,
Helen
Island,
so
I
just
would
like
some
clarification
about
that.
Is
that
correct?
Is
it
incorrect?
Where
did
you
meet
over
two
years?
Who
were
they
are
you
do
you
want
to
answer
that.
N
As
as
Mr
wood
said,
my
belief
is
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
want
to
stand
up
and
say
they
have
heard
from
me
and
I
feel
like.
There
is
a
modicum
of
discomfort
in
these
meetings
that
has
been
created
directly
or
indirectly.
Obviously,
given
the
content
on
the
record,
we
had
a
meeting
on
April
22nd
of
2022
with
a
group
of
pastors
and
ministers
that
was
facilitated
by
my
council
person.
A
N
And
said
the
contrary:
that's
what
this
topic
of
conversation
has
created
is
an
uncomfortability
amongst
the
community
themselves
to
be
able
to
stand
up
and
say
nah.
Let's
just
go
with
what
everybody
else
is
saying:
I
think
as
of
today,
the
total.
Well,
as
of
yesterday,
the
total
was
432
people
that
we've
talked
to
individually
I've
been
there
for
528
days,
and
if
you
do
the
math,
that's
that's
tough.
N
To
do
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
name
names
out
of
respect
for
people,
but
I
tell
you
you
do
some
digging
and
there
will
be
people
that
would
be
willing
to
share
their
experience.
That
they've
had
with
me
team
members
and
the
content
of
that,
and
what
I
can
tell
you.
Is
that
not
one
word
of
what
we
have
shared,
not
one
since
the
day
I
got
here
was
changed
and
a
specific
Pastor
told
me
only
you
can
make
yourself
a
liar.
N
A
L
Sure,
chairman
Pappas
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
recommend
denial
of
the
proposed
zoning
amendment
that
would
remove
Pine
Island
Saint
helenaville
property
from
the
cultural
protection
overlay.
Zone.
AN
A
Sorry
further
discussion.
M
I
guess
I'd
just
like
to
say
that
it's
easy
to
start
to
blend
some
of
the
the
issues
that
we're
having
to
deal
with
tonight,
including
the
specific
plans
that
we'll
be
dealing
with
in
the
next
items
on
the
agenda.
B
M
Really
what
our
focus
is
with
this
particular
case
is
whether
or
not
the
CPO
should
be
removed
as
part
of
a
rezoning
request
and
I
think
what
I
heard
in
terms
of
the
arguments
by
the
applicant
as
to
why
they
thought
that
was
appropriate.
Were
this
idea
that
the
the
property
as
it
existed
should
have
been
excluded,
like
the
other
Parcels,
like
data
and
Fripp
Etc,
and
based
on
what
I've
heard
in
the
testimony
and
the
information
that
was
provided.
M
Those
properties
that
were
excluded
represented
a
completely
different
development
pattern
than
what
exists
with
this
property
today.
So
I,
don't
think.
That's
a
valid
justification
for
excluding
the
CPO
and
then
excuse
me.
The
other
argument
that
I
had
heard
was
this
characterization
of
the
property
as
being
a
long-standing
private,
gated,
Recreation
destination
and
I
personally
also
think
that's
an
over
generalization
of
the
site.
That's
actually
been
a
private
hunting
Plantation.
M
So
again,
when
we
look
at
what
we're
charged
with
in
terms
of
having
to
make
a
determination
as
to
whether
or
not
this
meets
the
criteria
for
rezoning
I,
do
not
think
that
they've
demonstrated
that,
in
fact,
this
is
consistent
with
the
goals
policies,
the
comprehensive
plan,
there
was
a
lot
of
public
input
that
was
made
when
the
CPO
was
included.
We've
gone
through
two
comprehensive
plans
since
then
to
reaffirm
that,
in
fact,
the
CPO
is
appropriate
for
that
area.
A
A
B
O
So
Mr,
chairman
again
for
the
record
I,
am
here
representing
the
Planning
Commission
and
one
of
the
issues
that
you
have
before
you
deny
it's
actually
listed
as
three
separate
appeals,
but
all
involving
the
same
that
same
500
Acres.
That
was
discussed
before
it's
three
applications
that
there
were
three
appeals
on
applications
to
develop.
A
six
holes
of
golf
is,
as
they
were,
is
how
they
were
styled
in
the
application.
Six
holes
of
golf
on
that
500
Acres
it.
O
The
property,
has
been
subdivided
into
at
least
three
props
three
parcels,
and
that's
why
you
have
those
three
different
applications,
so
the
Planning
Commission
tonight
you
will
be
sitting
in
a
what
is
known
as
a
quasi-judicial
capacity.
You
are
acting
as
a
trial
of
fact
and
a
essentially
a
Judicial
panel
in
determining
whether
an
error
was
made
by
the
Beaufort
County
Planning
Department,
when
it
denied
the
development
applications
for
that
were
submitted
by
Pine
Island,
those
three
applications,
staff
will
present
and
the
applicant
will
present
their
positions
on
that
and
I'm.
Here.
O
O
O
Maker,
which,
in
this
case
is
the
Beaufort
County
staff,
made
an
error
in
determining
whether
a
standard
was
met
and
if
you
reach
that
you
need
to
determine
that
the
record
indicated
at
an
errand
judgment,
occurred
or
fax
plans
or
regulations
were
misread
and
determining
whether
the
particular
standard
was
met.
So
that's
a
to
summarize
that
that
there
was
a
error
in
the
an
administrative
error
at
the
staff
level.
O
So,
if
you
ask
me
questions
directly
on
what
my
opinions
may
be
as
to
the
facts
or
what
my
opinion
would
be,
if
I
had
to
sit
as
the
reviewing
Court
to
decide,
I
will
politefully
Decline
and
face
the
face.
The
wrath
of
U6,
the
the
Appellate
body,
is
not
here
to
hear
any
evidence
or
make
any
decision
based
on
hardships
or
special
conditions.
O
So
the
idea
of
what
necessarily
could
be
done
if
this
application,
if
y'all,
uphold
the
decision
of
staff,
the
idea
of
what
potentially
could
be
done
with
this
property
in
that
sort
of
course,
of
course,
of
circumstance,
is
not
a
relevant
consideration.
So
what
could
be
built
on
there
if
y'all
uphold
the
decision
of
staff
is
not
pertinent.
O
There
are
a
number
of
different,
complicated
legal
issues
that
are
also
going
to
be
raised
tonight
by
the
applicant
and
by
staff.
So
I
would
recommend
that
you
all
listen
carefully.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
those
standards,
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
provide
some
guidance
and
to
give
you
any
sort
of
information
that
I
feel
is
helpful
in
y'all
reaching
your
decisions
again
at
this
point.
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
Planning,
Commission
and
I'm
here,
if
y'all
need
me,
thank.
A
A
The
process
will
proceed
as
follows:
the
applicant
has
the
burden
of
proof,
so
the
applicant
will
present
first
their
petition
for
appeal,
and
then
we
will
hear
from
the
county
and,
lastly,
a
remodel
Opportunity
by
the
applicant,
so
who
would
like
to
who
was
intended
to
speak
in
behalf
of
the
applicant
sir?
Could
you
please
come
up
identify
yourself.
AO
AO
AO
AO
So
the
error
that
we're
asking
you
all
to
address
this
evening
is
that
when
Beaufort
County
received
the
applications
and
the
three
and
Mr
chairman,
if
you
might,
the
grounds
for
this
appeal
are
the
same
across
the
three
applications.
So
just
for
purposes
of
all
the
folks
that
are
here
and
for
your
commission
I'm
happy
to
make
these
comments
once
as
they
apply
equally
to
all
three
appeals,
rather
than
doing
it
three
times.
If
that
would
be
your
pleasure,
yes,.
A
AO
You
so
when
we
look
at
that
error
again,
county
has
a
duty
and
an
obligation
to
apply
the
standards
as
they
exist
at
the
time
of
the
application,
and
this
part
this
application
involved.
These
three
involved.
Six.
Three
six
whole
golf
courses.
So
despite
the
suggestion
that
golf
is
an
anathema
and
a
culture
killer
until
just
very
very
recently,
golf
courses
of
up
to
six
holes
on
a
particular
parcel
were
specifically
allowed
under
the
same
CPO
overlay
Zone.
AO
That
folks
have
mentioned
to
you
that
they
were
a
part
of
drafting
and
was
so
carefully
drafted
and
is
so
vitally
important.
The
only
reason
that
it
was
recently
changed
well
because
Mr
tropiano
made
an
application
that
complied
with
that
CPO.
He
was
asked
to
not
present
it
in
November,
so
he
didn't
he
deferred
on
that.
AO
AO
So
what
happened
after
that
is
that
the
allowance
of
a
six
Hole
Golf
Course
on
a
parcel
was
changed
by
an
amendment.
However,
that
Amendment
did
not
exist
and
was
not
part
of
the
Beaufort
County
zoning
ordinance
or
a
part
of
the
subsection
of
that,
which
is
the
cultural
protection
overlay
at
the
time
that
application
was
presented.
However,
that
Amendment,
which
was
first
read
for
the
first
reading,
only
later,
was
used
as
the
basis
for
denying
those
applications
which
were
compliant
with
the
zoning
code.
At
the
time
they
were
submitted,
Miss
Chris.
AO
This
was
Mr
Merchant's
letter
I've
concluded
an
excerpt
from
it.
We've
received
your
conceptual
Land
Development
application,
as
the
Director
I
have
determined
pursuant
to
7.2.60
E1
of
the
Community
Development
code,
that
your
application
doesn't
comply
with
the
applicable
standards
at
the
community
development
code
and
the
Amendments
given
first
reading
by
County
Council
on
April
10
2023..
AO
AO
Dependent,
ordinance,
Doctrine,
that's
not
a
phrase
that
got
used
in
Mr
Merchant's
letter,
but
that's
what
he
was
doing.
He
was
saying
something
that's
received
first
reading,
although
it
has
to
receive
three
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
use
it
to
deny
your
application,
even
though
it
isn't
an
ordinance.
Yet
now,
there's
a.
AO
AO
and
what
it
says
and
I've
copied.
This
is
the
exact
language.
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
from
this
opinion
we
hold
the
municipality
May
properly,
refuse
a
building
permit
for
a
land
use
in
a
newly
annexed
area
when
such
use
is
repugnant
to
a
pending
and
later
enacted.
Zoning
ordinance
first
problem,
Pine
Island,
not
a
newly
annexed
area.
AO
It's
been
part
of
Beaufort
County,
since
1769.
I
see
behind
the
chairman
and
when
Beaufort
County
was
founded,
it's
been
a
part
of
the
cultural
protection
overlay,
since
that
was
initiated
in
19
April
26
1999,
according
to
Mr
Merchant's
comments,
so
the
first
rule
about
applying
a
pending
ordinance
that
hasn't
been
passed
yet
is
it
applies
to
areas
that
are
newly
annexed.
AO
That
did
is
not
the
case
here.
That
is
a
legal
error
and
as
the
Planning
Commission
and
as
as
as
Council
said,
you're
to
serve
in
a
quasi-judicial
function,
which
means
just
like
a
judge
has
to
do
you
put
on
that
robe
and
you
put
your
personal
feelings
aside
and
you
apply
the
law
as
it
reads
now,
I
know
this
is
not
something
that
you
all
do
every
day,
normally
you're
hearing
about
variances
and
preliminary
plans
and
all
those
sorts
of
things.
AO
But
this
is
one
of
your
functions
and
the
way
you
exercise
that
function
is
when
you
recognize
that
the
law
has
been
misapplied
by
the
County
zoning
director.
It's
your
duty
to
correct
it.
So
the
first
issue
is
that
this
was
not
a
newly
annexed
area.
Now,
why
is
that
phrase
even
there?
Well,
the
idea
would
be
if
this
area
just
came
in
to
the
municipality
and
they
were
about
to
do
something
that
was
totally
inconsistent
with
the
rules
that
existed
in
that
county
and
you
just
got
that
property.
AO
AO
AM
AO
A
AO
So
you
all
can
review
those
and
you
can
make
that
determination,
but
it
says
what
it
says.
So
you
need
to
later
determine
whether
it
was
repugnant
to
something
that
was
pending
and
later
inactive.
So
that's
the
second
paragraph.
That's
there,
an
ordinance
is
legally
pending
when
the
governing
body
has
resolved
to
consider
a
particular
scheme
of
rezoning
and
has
advertised
to
the
public
its
intention
to
hold
public
hearings
on
the
rezoning.
AO
AO
It
didn't
even
exist
as
March
21st,
when
the
CPO
committee
directed
the
county
to
work
on
the
wording
of
those
more
so
as
of
March
7th
when
those
applications
were
submitted.
These
were
lawful
uses
and
there
was
no
pending
ordinance
by
meaning
a
particular
scheme
of
rezoning
that
had
been
advertised
to
the
public.
AO
That
did
not
exist
at
the
time,
so
the
county
and,
of
course,
there's
pressure.
This
room
is
full
people
don't
want
to
do
the
wrong
thing,
but
sometimes
they
do
sometimes
they
apply
pending
ordinance
Doctrine
to
a
newly
annexed
area,
even
though
it's
not
legal
to
do
that.
Sometimes
they
apply
this
Doctrine
when
they
don't
have
a
particular
scheme
of
rezoning
that
exists
at
the
time
and
it
hasn't
been
publicly
advertised.
AO
So
what
happened
in
this
case
is
from
when
again
in
November
of
2022,
when
the
application
was
asked
when
this
County's
administrator
asked
that
that
be
delayed
and
not
be
brought
forward.
Yet
that
request
was
honored,
but
then,
as
we
go
forward,
the
three
conditions
that
would
be
required
in
order
for
the
pending
ordered
Doctrine
to
be
applied
weren't
present,
but
what
the
county
did
is
it
waited
until
it
had
developed
this
text
Amendment
until
it
had
advertised
it
and
then
until
it
had
given
it
first
reading?
AO
And
then
this
was
retroactively
applied
to
complete
applications
that
were
already
on
file
and
some
people
might
salute
the
county
for
doing
it.
But
it's
not
the
law,
it
violates
the
law
and
that's
when
you
have
to
exercise
that
quasi-judicial
function,
to
make
sure
that
everyone's
rights
are
respected,
including
someone
who
submits
an
application
that
complies
with
applicable
law
at
the
time
that
the
application
submitted.
AO
AO
This
is
not
a
legal
application
of
pending
ordinance
Doctrine.
It
is
an
illegal
application
of
it
Chris
if
you
can
switch
to
the
next
slide,
please
I
know
the
text
is
a
little
small
on
the
screen
here,
but
this
is
to
show
the
timeline
again.
What's
not
on
here
are
the
discussions
in
2022
and
the
application
could
have
been
brought
forward,
but.
B
AO
Here
is
in
February
2023,
the
purchase
of
that
property
is
finalized
at
the
time
it's
finalized.
The
existing
CPO
overlay
Zone
allows
for
the
use
that
they
are
asking
for
a
six
Hole
Golf
Course
on
each
of
these
parcels
later
on,
after
that
is
when
the
county
takes
actions
quite
plainly
targeted
to
try
to
stop
this
project
in
order
to
change
the
CPA
overlay,
Zone
and
then
retroactively
apply
it
that's
not
allowed
next
slide.
AO
There
are
a
set
of
decisions.
This
is
not
a
New
Concept.
There
are
a
set
of
decisions
that
back
this
up,
not
only
the
the
cases
that
limit
what
the
pending
and
ordinance
Doctrine
is
and
when
it
can
be
applied,
but
also
that
when
you
submit
an
application,
you
have
a
right
for
it
to
be
acted
upon,
not
targeted
and
then
made
illegal
by
a
specific
amendment
that
didn't
exist
at
the
time.
AO
So
in
the
pure
oil
division
case,
what
they
recognize
is
when
you're,
relying
in
good
faith
upon
the
existing
zoning
at
the
time
you
make
a
permit
application.
You
have
a
vested
right
to
proceed
with
that
and
what
pure
oil
division
decided
is.
Not
only
do
you
have
that
right
when
you've
already
got
a
permit
in
hand,
but
you've
got
that
right,
even
when
you
don't
have
a
permit
in
hand.
Yet
when
you've
got
an
application,
that's
been
submitted.
That's
a
Supreme
Court
decision
like
the
one
that
I
mentioned
before
that's
existed
since
1970..
AO
That's
an
important
case
for
you
to
remember,
because
although
there
are
different
ways
to
get
vested
rights,
this
recognizes
that
when
you
rely
on
that
and
you
in
good
faith,
you
spend
money
on
it.
You
spend
money
on
surveying,
you
start
paying
property
taxes,
you
do
those
things
you
bring
something
forward
to
the
county.
That's
authorized
under
the
zoning
code,
you're
allowed
for
and
you're
entitled
to
have
that
application
processed,
not
shelved
because
you
can
switch
to
the
next
one.
Please
another.
G
AO
That
actually
comes
from
the
fourth
Circuit
Court
of
Appeals,
so
this
is
from
our
federal
court
system.
So
when
we
really
start
talking
about
due
process
and
constitutionally
protected
rights,
that's
the
court
that
protects
those.
This
court
is
right
below
the
Supreme
Court.
It
sits
in
Richmond,
and
so
what
it
says
is:
okay,
the
starting
point
for
our
inquiry
is
to
determine
whether
state
or
local
law
afforded
Scott
the
property
owner,
in
that
case,
a
protectual
property
interest
in
the
permit
sufficient
to
trigger
Federal
due
process
guarantees.
AO
What
happened
in
that
case
the
developer
wanted
to
build
an
affordable
housing
complex
and
then
a
lot
of
folks
came
out
and
argued
with
County
Council
to
basically
not
allow
them
to
do
it,
even
though
he
had
submitted
the
application.
So
they
started
a
moratorium
and
they
blocked
that
project.
They
shelved
it
until
they
could
rezone
the
property
in
a
manner
that
wouldn't
allow
for
his
project
to
be
for
his
project
to
proceed.
AO
Different
intended
development,
but
same
misconduct
under
South
Carolina
law
settled
well
before
he
applied
for
the
building.
Permit
Scott
enjoyed
an
entitlement
to
initiative
of
a
permit
upon
presentation
of
an
application
and
plans
showing
a
use
expressly
permitted
under
then
current
zoning
ordinance,
and
this
applies
even
though
you
have
an
option
to
purchase
a
property
and
not
necessarily
actual
legal
title.
Those
were
the
facts
in
the
Scott
case.
AO
There
was
no
particular
scheme
of
rezoning
that
existed
at
that
time,
and
there
was
no
advertisement
noticing
the
public
that
this
was
going
to
happen.
So,
unless
those
three
things
are
present,
it's
not
proper
for
the
county
to
apply
the
pending
ordinance
doctorate,
but
they
did-
and
that
is
the
issue
that's
presented
by
this
appeal
and
as
in
relief
in
order
so
that
the
rule
of
law
does
matter
and
the
community
rights
matter
and
the
individual
rights
matter
we're
not
in
a
society
where
only
the
community
rights
matter.
AO
That's
a
communist
Society
in
a
society
in
a
society
where
there
are
individual
property
rights
in
a
society
where
there
are
individual
property
rights,
the
Constitution
and
the
law
protects
those
rights,
and
that's
why
you
can't
move
the
goal
posts
and
you
can't
shelve
an
application
after
it's
been
submitted
when
it
complies
with
the
existing
ordinance.
That's
why
this
is
an
illegal
act,
and
that's
why
the
Planning
Commission
should
reverse
it
now.
Whatever
happens
with
this
project
will
happen
with
it,
but
this
commission
needs
to
be
certain
that
the
laws
being
applied
correctly.
AO
O
Mr,
chairman
may
I
another
matter
of
privilege.
Yes,
please
yeah
yeah,
while
I
know
that
there
is
an
inherent
desire
to
to
communicate
when
someone
else
is
speaking
or
to
vocalize
disagreement
or
or
agreement.
It
is
essential
that
we
have
a
clean
record
in
case.
This
goes
to
further
appeals
that
we
can
differentiate
who's.
Speaking
when
they're
speaking,
it
can
often
be
difficult
to
do
so
down
the
line.
So
I
know
it.
I
know
it
can
be
tough,
but
please
please
try
to
keep
outside
noises
to
a
minimum
to
the
extent
possible.
Yes,.
Q
The
first
is
next
elections
that
the
CDC
cultural
projection,
overlay,
District
standards,
only
prohibit
nine
holes
or
more
golf
courses.
That's
a
fallacy.
Dependent
also
asserts
that
they
have
a
vested
right
to
build
three
six
whole
golf
courses.
That's
a
fallacy
and
the
appellant
asserts
that
the
pending
ordinance
doesn't
apply
because
the
application
was
submitted.
Q
A
G
Q
Well,
I
religiously
watched
Dragnet
and
Joe
Friday
Sergeant
Joe
Friday
on
the
LA
Police
Department
had
a
phrase,
a
catchphrase
that
he
used
and
apply
that
the
way
I
practiced
law-
and
that
is
just
the
facts,
ma'am
just
the
facts,
so
I
just
want
to
present
the
facts
and
keep
it
to
the
facts.
Q
I
want
to
keep
in
reality,
unlike
how
Mr
liesman
was
with
his
facts
that
he
put
forth
the
first
issue.
Next
slide,
please
dealt
with
vested
rights
with
the
Illinois
shirts
that
they
have
a
vested
right
to
have
their
application
approved
for
three
6-0
golf
courses,
because
the
ordinance
is
in
effect
on
March
7th
2023..
Q
They
cited
the
pure
oil
division
case
from
1970
53
years
ago,
dealing
with
vested
rights.
In
that
case
he
explained
it
that
the
vested
rights
the
applicant
to
these,
because
the
substantially
alter
his
position
and
incurred
expenses
and
obligations
in
Reliance
on
the
ordinance
in
effect
at
that
time.
That
was
good
law
at
that
time.
Q
Q
G
Q
Cited
Scott
V
Greenville
from
1983.
40
years
ago.
A
real
estate
developer
wanted
to
build
low-income
apartments
in
an
area
zone
for
use
and
density.
The
neighbors
complained
and
just
as
Mr
liesman
said,
the
council
put
a
moratorium
on
issuing
building
permits,
so
they
could
rezone
to
a
single-family
residential
neighborhood.
Q
What
he
didn't
tell
you
was
that
case
also
recognized
that
building
those
low-income
apartments
was
an
Express
use
allowed
and
was
not
incompatible
with
the
character
of
The
District
key
facts
all
right.
What
he
also
didn't
tell
you
was
that
South
Carolina
because
of
the
law
that
was
developed
and
the
case
law
is
considered
common
law,
the
laws
that
were
being
developed
back
in
the
70s
and
the
80s
related
to
zoning
and
Community
Development
or
run
amok.
So
the
legislature
took
action
and
in
1994
they
passed
the
local
government
comprehensive
planning
enabling
Act
of
1994..
Q
Q
Q
This
is
the
result.
1999
Community
Development
standards
and
the
ordinance
part
of
that
process
dealt
with
appointing
a
CPO,
the
cultural,
protect
and
overlay
committee
to
protect
cultural
areas,
and
it
was
the
first
expanded
Beyond
Saint
Helena.
It
was
going
to
include
other
areas
west
of
Beaufort
North
of
the
broad
they
later
excluded
that
and
kept
it
only
to
Saint
Helena
for
the
cultural
protection
overlay.
Q
District
Rob
showed
the
maps
I
created
for
defining
the
district
there,
and
there
were
areas
that
were
kept
out
of
the
cultural
protection
overlay
District
on
St
Helen
Island
and
as
he
identified
Fripp
Island
DOTA
Harbor
Island
gated
communities
were
kept
out
of
the
CPO
Hunting
Island
was
a
state
park,
so
that
was
kept
out.
Hunting
Island
was
not
our
jurisdiction,
that
was
state
that
was
kept
out.
The
others
were
gay
communities
and
two
of
them
at
golf
courses.
Q
The
committee
and
the
council
did
not
want
to
have
non-conformities
already
in
existence
in
the
cultural
protection
overlay
District,
so
those
were
excluded.
The
respite
was
there.
If
anybody
wanted
to
challenge
being
part
of
the
cultural
protection
overlay
District,
they
could
have
challenged
it
back
in
1999
up
to
60
days
after
we
adopted
that
ordinance
with
the
CPO.
That
time
has
come
and
gone.
Q
And
participated
in
the
protections
of
CPO
since
1999.,
the
previous
Property
Owners
of
Pine
Island
from
1999
until
today
have
lived
with
the
cultural
protection
over
the
district's
protections
and
his
own
standards
Mr
traviano
two
years
ago,
started
to
make
plans
to
purchase
the
property
he
didn't
purchase
it
until
February
of
this
year.
A
few
months
ago.
February
is
when
he
consummated
that
he
didn't
own
it
back
in
2022
or
2021,
when
he
was
spending
money
on
archaeological
surveys
and
engineering
and
everything
else
he
didn't
own
it.
Q
Q
G
Q
Q
The
purpose
is
that
the
cultural
protection
overlay
zone
is
established
to
provide
for
the
long-term
protection
of
the
culturally
significant
resources
found
on
Saint
Helena
Island.
The
CPO
Zone
acknowledges
St,
Helena's,
historic
cultural
landscape
and
its
importance
as
a
center
of
Beaufort
County's,
most
notable
concentration
of
government
culture.
Q
In
paragraph
D
of
that
same
code,
section
use
limitations,
as
Rob
told
you
earlier,
the
specific
uses
deemed
to
be
incompatible
with
the
CPU
Zone
and
therefore
are
prohibited,
restricted
access,
gated
communities,
electric
violet,
Harbor,
Island
and
Dot
top
that's
incompatible,
so
they
didn't
let
it
in
they
didn't
want
non-conformities
Resorts.
They
didn't
want
big
hotels
or
big
Resorts
or
anything
like
that.
They
want
to
keep
their
culture
alive.
Q
Golf
courses,
golf
courses
were
prohibited,
uses.
Now
there
the
applicant
is
trying
to
make
fun
or
make
loose
with
the
language
that
follows.
The
prohibition
of
the
golf
course
saying
the
use
includes
regulation
in
Par
3
golf
courses
having
nine
or
more
holes.
That's
what
he's
playing
on
that's
what.
Q
A
A
G
Q
the
language
today.
Buford
County
definition
of
golf
course
hasn't
changed
as
I
said,
and
where
did
they
get
the
definition
for
a
golf
course?
Well,
they
used
plain
and
ordinary
meaning
of
the
English
language
and
they
also
use
what's
called
a
planner's
dictionary,
and
this
is
part
of
materials
provided
to
you
for
the
presentation
I'm
making.
Okay,
that
was
in
the
exhibit
definition
of
a
golf
course
attractive.
Land
laid
out
with
at
least
nine
holes
for
playing
a
game
of
golf
and
improved
with
teas
greens,
Fairways
and
Hazards.
B
Q
Q
Diff
the
dictionary
Miriam
Webster
defines
golf
in
2023.
Golf
is
a
game
in
which
a
player
using
special
clubs
attempts
to
sink
a
ball
with
as
few
Strokes
as
possible
into
each
of
the
9
or
18
successive
holes.
On
a
course.
That's
golf
Golf
Course,
an
area
of
land
laid
out
for
golf
with
a
series
of
nine
or
18
holes,
each,
including
a
t
Fairway
and
putting
green
and
often
one
or
more
natural
or
artificial
hazards,
also
called
Golf
Links.
Q
Q
In
interpreting
the
language
in
the
CPL
Zone
and
ordinance,
there's
some
key
South
Carolina
cases
that
stand
for
key
elements
in
interpreting
the
ordinances.
And
if
you
look
at
the
case,
MCC
outdoor
loc
versus
sedot,
it's
a
2007
South
Carolina
case.
It's
an
unpublished
opinion,
but
I
put
it
forth
for
three
recognitions
that
they
had
and
they
were
Supreme
Court
cases.
Q
And
in
that
case
they
said
that
the
South
Carolina
Supreme
Court
has
ruled
that
the
words
of
a
statute
must
be
given
their
plain
and
ordinary
meaning
without
resort
to
settle
or
Force
construction
to
limit
or
expand
the
statute's
operation,
and
they
cited
Hitachi
data
system.
Corporation
for
this
Leatherman
from
1992.
Q
When
you
use
Supreme
Court
case
law,
interpreting
the
statutes
and
the
ordinance
the
plane
meeting
is
no.
Golf
courses
are
allowed
in
that
CPO.
Everybody
understood
that
when
he
submitted
his
application
in
November
of
2022,
it
wasn't
for
3-6
coal
golf
courses
that
was
for
an
18-hole
Golf
Course,
a
resort.
Q
It
wasn't
until
March
7th
of
2023
that
the
topic
was
submitted
in
an
application
to
the
county
for
three
six
old
golf
courses.
But
as
I
said,
the
code
did
not
allow
for
golf
courses
and
a
golf
course
is
nine
holes
or
18
holes,
not
six
holes
or
seven
holes
or
eight
holes
or
having
nine
one-hole
courses.
That's
not
it
for
a
golf
course,
as
defined
by
our
code.
It's
nine!
It's
18
holes,
but
it's
nine
holes
or
more
for
part
three.
Q
Q
That
it's
not
permitted
by
our
code.
If
someone
submitted
something
like
that,
we
would
have
to
look
at
all
right.
How
do
we
address
it?
Do
we
mend
our
code
to
allow
for
the
use
or
to
preclude
it?
'll
come
up
in
a
little
bit
all
right
so
back
to
the
vested
rights
argument
that
they're
making
it's
important
to
remember
like
I,
said
that
their
cases
are
50
and
40
years
old,
okay.
Q
Well
after
the
1994
enabling
legislation,
South
Carolina
also
addressed
the
next
issue.
That
was
bothering
the
state
and
they
adopted
the
vested
Rights
Act
in
2004
and
made
it
applicable
in
2005.,
July
1
2005,
the
vested
Rights
Act
took
effect
and
applied
to
the
entire
state
of
South
Carolina.
If
a
local,
Planning,
Commission
and
committee
or
council
did
not
adopt
their
own
tested,
Rights
Act,
the
state
applies
so
the
best
Rights
Act
applies
to
every
community
in
South
Carolina,
either
by
their
own
ordinance
or
a
state
statute.
Q
In
the
state
statute
defined
invested
right.
It
means
the
right
to
undertake
and
complete
the
development
of
property
under
the
terms
and
conditions
of
a
site-specific,
develop
plan
or
phase
development
plan,
as
provided
in
this
article
and
in
the
local
Land
Development
ordinances
or
regulations
adopted
pursuant
to
this
chapter.
So
that's
what
a
vested
right
is.
G
Q
Q
Q
B
Q
Fees
paid
in
accordance
with
this
development
code:
that's
the
law
in
this
County
in
South
Carolina
the
effects
of
investigates
legislation,
as
I
said,
with
the
adoption
of
this
legislation
that
prior
case
of
pure
oil
division
concerning
invested
rights,
is
no
longer
applicable
to
Land
Development
plans
in
South
Carolina.
That
law
is
gone.
Q
Q
Same
criteria
used
as
old,
pure
oil
are
now
when
you
have
the
approved
tested
right
from
the
legislature,
they
use
the
same
language,
but
it's
statutory.
It
doesn't
come
into
effect
until
you
have
the
received
and
approved
final
plans.
Final
plans.
As
you
all
know,
as
planners
there's
three
steps
in
a
plan
you
have
the
pre-app
for
a
land,
develop
major
Land
Development.
Q
Then
you
have
the
conceptual
plan
which
was
submitted
on
March
7th,
a
conceptual
plan
and
then,
after
you
have
the
staff
review
meeting
and
get
all
the
stats
comments
you
go
out
once
that's
complete,
and
then
you
get
your
final
plans
and
then
once
you
submit
that
final
clance,
we
have
a
period
of
time,
I
think
up
to
60
days
to
review
that
and
either
prove
it
or
if
you
haven't
acted
on
it,
it's
approved
or
you
disprove
it
as
not
being
compatible
a
final
plan.
We
never
got
to.
Q
Also
have
a
four
Circuit
Court
of
Appeals
case
federal
law
up
in
Richmond,
as
he
said
under
Maryland
law,
in
order
to
obtain
a
vested
right
in
existing
zoning
use.
That
would
be
constitutionally
protected
against
subsequent
change
in
zoning
ordinance,
prohibiting
or
learning
that
use
the
owner
must
obtain
a
perimeter
or
occupancy
certificate,
where
required
by
a
political
ordinance
and
proceed
under
that
permit
or
certificate
to
excise
it
on
land
involved,
so
that
the
neighborhood
may
be
advised
that
the
land
is
being
devoted
to
that
use.
Q
Court
of
appeals
case
2008
after
the
vested
rights,
and
it's
the
law
up
and
down
the
east
coast
in
the
north
circuit,
so
clearly,
there's
no
vested
right
for
the
application
and
clearly
the
ordinance
prohibits
golf
courses
in
the
CPO
goal,
of
course,
has
never
been
in
there.
I've
been
I've
been
person
that
lives
and
they
go
to
each
community
that
has
picked
at
a
golf
club
to.
G
Q
Q
Q
G
Q
To
today,
the
effect
of
the
text
amendments
that
were
before
this
Planning
Commission
and
the
County
Council
in
April
and
May
only
dealt
with
strengthening
the
language
of
something
already
prohibited
and
further
defining
the
purpose
of
the
cultural
protection
overlay.
This
make
no
mistake.
The
CPO
prohibited
golf
for
23
24
years.
Golf
was
not
allowed
unless
you're
on
data
or
Fripp
Island,
and
they
weren't
in
the
CPO.
Q
Applicants
have
never
received
any
vessel
rights,
as
I
said
they
relied
on
Sherman
versus
Reedus,
and
why
he's
saying
that
that
only
Penny
Lawrence
only
applies
to
Annex
land
I,
don't
know,
that's
not
the
law,
and
he
knows
that's
not
the
law.
It
applies.
Whether
or
not
an
ordinance
comes
with
an
effect
for
a
zoning
law.
Annexation
has
nothing
to
do
with
it.
Q
It's
just
in
the
Sherman
case
that
came
up
because
they
had
annexed
some
land
and
previously,
where
it
was,
they
prohibited
signs,
and
during
the
interim
they
were
passing
the
ordinance
as
far
as
prohibiting
signs
is
what
the
purpose
was
wasn't
even
a
zoning
case.
It
was
for
signs
and
the
interim,
the
applicant
submitted
all
those
applications
for
assigned
permits
and
the
government
invoked
the
pending
ordinance.
So
that
was
that
that
case
held
correctly,
as
he
said,
that
a
new
municipality
May
properly
refuse
a
building
permit
for
a
land
use
in
a
newly
annexed
area.
Q
Q
A
Q
Holding
was
what
I
read
a
little
bit
ago
as
far
as
municipality
May,
properly
refuse
a
building
permit
for
land
used
in
a
newly
annexed
area
when
such
use
is
repugnant
to
a
pending
and
later
enacted.
Zoning
ordinance
lawyers
often
cite
that
case
for
holding
that
the
ordinance
is
legally
Penny,
when
the
governing
body
has
resolved
to
consider
a
particular
scheme
of
zoning
and
is
advertised
to
the
Public's
intentions
to
hold
public
hearings
on
rezonings,
but
that
wasn't
the
holding.
That
was
only
cited
because
it
was
part
of
their
reasoning
in.
Q
Q
G
Q
Q
Here's
the
background.
In
November
of
last
year,
Beaufort
County
Council
adopted
an
updated
version
of
the
County's
comprehensive
plan.
The
comp
plan
lays
the
path
for
Beaufort
County
over
the
next
decade
to
balance
managing
growth
and
maintain
our
natural
resources
and
cultural
heritage.
Protecting
the
galagichi
community
and
Rural
way
of
life
on
Saint,
Helena,
palawana,
Island
and
Warsaw
island
is
the
high
priority
in
the
comp
plan.
As
a
result,
one
of
the
recommended
actions
of
the
plan
to
further
protect
the
island
is
to
assess
and
strengthen
the
cultural
protection
overlay.
Q
That's
why
that's
the
background
in
the
County
Council,
creating
the
CPO
again
they're,
proposing
to
form
a
community-led
cultural
protection
overlay
committee
that
was
made
up
of
community
members
representative
of
Saint
Helena
Island.
The
CPO
committee
will
be
tasked
with
reviewing
the
current
cultural
protection
overlay
standards,
as
outlined
in
the
County's
Community
Development
code,
which
sets
development
standards
for
the
county.
As
part
of
the
review
review,.
G
Q
Committee
will
determine
what
needs
to
be
added
to
the
cultural
protection
overlay,
to
reinforce
its
purpose
and
improve
the
protection
it
provides
to
Saint
Helena
and
surrounding
Islands,
so
November
14th
of
2022
County
Council,
was
already
having
a
scheme
of
the
rezoning
and
improving
that
text
language
in
there.
That
was
the
first
date
that
would
be
important.
B
Q
Of
2022,
the
CPO
committee
was
created,
as
I
said,
to
consider
strengthening
CPO
on
November
29th
that
same
year,
the
zoning
map
Amendment
application
was
submitted
for
Pine
Island
for
an
18-hole
Golf
Course
and
a
resort.
No
three
six
whole
golf
courses.
It
was
for
18-hole
golf
course
on
November
30th,
the
County
Administrator
discussed
with
them
the
zma,
the
Sony
map
amendment
to
allow
Council
to
consider
a
text
Amendment
December
18th
of
2022.
Q
We
published
that
there's
going
to
be
a
January
5th
2023
Planning
Commission
meeting
to
consider
the
tax
amendment
to
the
CPO
on
January
5th.
You
folks
that
were
on
the
commission
of
that
date
heard
that
text
amendment
that
was
proposed
by
the
county
staff
and
you
voted
it
down.
After
hearing
from
all
of
these
people
back
here
on
January
9th
that
went
to
the
land
use
committee.
G
Q
County
Council
committee
and
they
recommended
on
a
motion
by
York
lawyer
for
the
councilman
that
the
matter
be
postponed
until
April
10th
and
be
referred
to
the
CPO
or
they'd
consider
because
that
was
their
responsibility,
their
duties
and
they
wanted
them
to
weigh
in
on
how
to
strengthen
the
language
there.
So
that's
January
9th
now
it's
important
to
know
January
9th.
At
that
land
use
committee.
Q
Q
Is
six
council
members
so
in
effect
that's
a
de
facto
County
Council
committee,
a
County
council
meeting,
because
eight
members
attended
and
participated
in
the
discussion,
so
County
Council
sent
that
to
the
CPO
on
January
9th.
The
meeting
was
televised
on
the
county.
Channel,
that's
advertising!
That's
public
notice,
January.
B
Q
Q
on
April
or
February
28th.
The
application
received
to
divide
the
three
Parcels
of
Pine
Island
into
five
Parcels,
the
five
acre
exemption
plan.
That's
where
you've
got
it,
and
that
was
the
first
light
as
far
as
notice
that
all
right,
what's
he
going
to
do
with
three
Parcels
three
six
hole:
golf
courses,
obviously
March
3rd,
the
county
received
a
request
for
a
pre-app
conference
for
Pine
Island.
Golf
courses
on
March
7th
The
Advocate,
submitted
the
application
being
appealed
today
for
those
three
six
total
golf
courses.
Q
The
next
day
there
was
a
pre-op
meeting
on
March,
8th
March,
9th
the
administrator
sent
three
incomplete
application,
letters
to
Pine
Island
and
in
that
letter,
Hillary
notified
them
that
they
needed
to
have
the
DHEC
noi
the
archaeological
letter
and
natural
resources
letter
well,
the
next
day
attorney
nemec,
who
represents
the
Pine
Island,
sent
a
letter
to
Hillary
our
Zone
administrator
disagreeing
with
the
incompleteness
determination
that
she
had
made,
but
on
March
13th.
Three
days
later,
the
DHEC
noi
was
submitted,
so
one
of
three
missing
documents
was
submitted
on
March
16th.
Q
Our
Zone
administrator
Hillary
sent
the
letter
to
attorney
nemec
explaining
why
the
application
is
still
incomplete
and
we're
talking
about
the
conceptual
plan
application,
not
the
final
plan,
the
conceptual
plan,
the
very
next
day
there
was
a
meeting
with
staff,
a
county
attorney.
The
planning
director
attorney
nemec
was
there
for
a
Pine
Island
and
our
archaeological
staff
member
was
president
of
that
meeting
on
that
day
and.
Q
The
final
application
on
March
21st,
the
county
advertised
for
County
Council
to
hold
the
first
reading
of
an
ordinance
for
text,
amendments
to
the
Community
Development
code
and
the
cultural
protection
overlay
Zone
at
the
April
10th
County
council
meeting
at
five
o'clock,
so
March
21st
we're
advertising
for
the
first
three
of
the
text.
Amendment
part
of
that
scheme
of
rezoning
on
March
23rd.
Q
An
archaeological
letter
was
drafted
by
the
staff
and
sent
to
Thomas
on
Hutton
the
applicants
engineering
firm,
and
in
that
letter
we
told
them
that
they
had
to
revise
the
plans
to
add
the
resources
identified
in
phase
one
of
the
survey.
So
the
county
could
know
were
the
resources
were
on
the
property.
So
we.
AP
Q
Know
and
the
county
had
to
know
before
we
could
have
a
completed
conceptual
plan,
application
review
on
March
24th.
The
natural
resources
letter
was
completed
and
submitted
to
Ms
Austin
on
March
24th.
The
staff
decided
that
all
right,
even
though
we
didn't
have
a
complete
archaeological
letter,
we
were
still
missing
that
phase
one
site
plan
where
to
identify
where
all
these
artifacts
were
on
the
property
that
had
been
identified.
Q
They
said
all
right
for
our
purposes.
It's
complete
and
we'll
schedule
that
staff
review
team
meeting
to
go
over
the
application
with
the
applicant
on
April
19
2023.
Now,
normally
it's
done
within
three
weeks,
but
three
weeks
after
the
24th,
when
that
pre
or
that
conceptual
plan
was
determined
to
be
complete
enough
to
do
the
review,
except
for
those
revised
plans,
we
schedule
for
the
next
available
SRT
and
that
was
on
the
April
19th.
So
that
was
the
next
meeting
that
the
county
had
to
review
applications
on
April
9th.
Q
He
published
an
advertisement
giving
public
notice
of
public
hearings
to
be
held
by
County
Council
on
April
24th
at
five
o'clock
for
the
text,
amendments
to
the
CDC
for
the
CPO
language
on
April
10th,
the
community
services
land
use
committee
reviewed
the
amended
CPO
District
text
amendments.
In
that
same
day,
in
a
time-sensitive
matter,
Beaufort
County
Council
gave
first
reading
to
the
Texas
amendments
to
the
CPO
District,
so
the
first
reading
occurred.
Q
April
10th
advertising
for
the
public
hearing
occurred
the
day
before
April
9th
for
that
24th
meeting
on
April
14th,
the
director
of
Planning
and
Zoning
Rob
Merchant
informed
Pine
Island.
That
staff
had
determined
that
the
conceptual
applications
for
Pine
Island
golf
courses,
a
b
and
c
did
not
comply
with
the
applicable
standards
of
the
Community
Development
code
and
the
Amendments
given
first
reading
by
County
Council
on
April
10
2023.
Q
That's
why
Mr
liesman
told
you
that
Rob
was
in
effect
invoking
pending
ordinance
on
April
24th
County
Council,
held
that
public
hearing
and
gave
second
reading
to
the
CPO
text.
Amendment
on
May,
8th
two
weeks
later,
Council
Buford
County
Council
gave
the
third
and
final
reading
to
the
Amendments
of
the
CPO
District
and
became
law.
Q
So
we
beefed
up
the
language
defining
the
golf
course
and
the
Zone
standards
and
the
purpose
of
the
cultural,
overly
District,
why
we
were
protecting
it.
How
important
it
was
to
the
community
on
April,
12th,
Pine
Island,
requested
that
that
November
application
that
was
held
in
advance
that
had
been
deferred
be
reactivated,
and
you
heard
that
tonight
that
you
heard
earlier.
That
was
the
Zone
enough
amendment
that
had
been
submitted
in
November
of
last
year.
That
Mr
liesman
was
I.
G
Q
Are
the
facts
that
are
backed
up
by
the
documents
provided
in
your
Digital
Data
as
those
exhibits
a
through
us
any
date
that
I
mentioned
there
could
invoke
pending
ordinance?
Any
of
the
dates
mentioned
above
could
invoked
it
November
of
2022
when
County
Council
recreated
that
CPO
to
consider
language
to
beef
up
the
CPO
District
standards.
Q
That's
when
it
started
in
December
when
we
advertised
for
public
hearing
at
the
Planning
Commission
on
the
January
5th
meeting
on
January
5th,
when
the
Planning
Commission
considered
the
text
amendments
on
January
9th,
when
the
committee
referred
back
to
the
CPO
to
consider
detect
amendments
that
the
county
had
submitted
or
on
March
21st.
When
we
advertised
the
public
meeting
considered
the
text
amendments
on
April
9th,
when
we
advertise
for
the
public
hearing
on
April
10th
when
we
held
that
public
hearing
I'm
sorry
when
we
held
the
first
reading
or.
B
Q
Director
Rob
Merchant
relied
on
the
April
10th
of
the
date
before
the
dates
to
issue
the
letter
which
he
had
a
clear
intent
that
the
County
Council
was
not
going
to
permit
golf
courses
in
the
CPO
and
sent
that
letter
on
April
14th
telling
Pine
Island
that
the
application
was
not
in
compliance
with
the
political
standards
of
CDC
and
the
Amendments.
Given
in
the
first
reading
of
April
10th.
He
played
a
conservative
and
waited
to
see
given
all
the
politics.
What
was.
G
Q
To
happen
in
that
first
reading
of
the
test
event,
they
played
it
safe.
So
let's
use
April
10th
when
they
held
that
first
reading
Rob
sent
that
letter
on
April
14th
does
it
matter
the
CPO
already
prohibited
that
use
the
cases
they
cited
for
the
old
common
law,
pure
Oil
in
Greenville.
They
said
that
the
existence
was
specifically
permitted,
there's
no
question
there
was
permitted
use
and
it
didn't
disturb
the
surrounding
communities.
That's
not
the
case
that
we're
dealing
with
here.
Q
It
wouldn't
apply
anyway,
pure
oil
and
Scott
V
Greenville
wouldn't
apply
regardless,
because
the
code
did
not
specifically
permit
six
whole
golf
courses,
six
hole.
Golf
courses
would
be
repugnant
to
the
gold
cultural
committee
that
we're
trying
to
protect,
so
those
laws
wouldn't
apply
regardless,
but
the
state
threw
that
crap
away
and
we
had
the
vested
Rights
Act.
That's
what
we're
dealing
with
that's
the
law.
A
developer
has
the
right
when
they
have
the
vested
rights
given
by
the
legislature
or
the
County
Council,
and
that's
when
you
have
approved
final
plans
with
a
permit
okay.
Q
So
we
would
ask
that
the
pob
denied
the
zoning
director
Rob
Merchant
correctly
fulfilled
his
duty
to
deny
the
application
on
April
14
2023.,
like
I,
said
he
could
be
United
on
March
7th.
The
day
was
submitted
by
the
CPO
standards
because
they
didn't
allow
for
golf
courses.
They
could
have
done
that,
but
he
played
it
safe
to
see
which
way
County
Council
is
going
to
go.
Would
they
change
it
and
allow
for
a
tax
amendment
to
allow
golf,
probably
not,
but
he
played
it
safe.
Q
The
appellant
had
no
vested
rights
as
of
April
14
2023
they're,
at
least
a
year
away
before
they
get
the
review
of
that
conceptual
plan
which
is
being
processed
along
the
way
they
were
working
with
him.
They
set
the
letters,
told
them
what
they
needed
to
complete
it.
They
scheduled
a
meeting,
but
it
all
occurred
as
far
as
the.
Q
Q
Q
G
Q
Q
Q
He
did
with
the
knowledge
that
it
wasn't
a
permitted
use.
He
was
like
in
Vegas
playing
craps
rolling
dice.
Well,
a
seven
came
up
because
it's
not
allowed.
The
applicants
tried
doing
an
end
round
end
around
for
an
18-hole
Golf
Course
asking
for
three
six
hole:
golf
courses
which
of
course,
equals
18
holes.
Q
The
request
for
six
whole
golf
courses
is
not
a
permitted
use,
Center,
Beaufort,
County
or
in
the
CPO
Zone,
and
it
does
not
meet
the
definition
of
a
golf
course.
So
we
would
have
to
change
our
definition
in
order
to
allow
this
use
anywhere
in
the
county
anywhere
in
the
county.
It's
not
allowed
because
it's
not
part
of
the
definition
of
a
golf
course
9
or
18
holes.
Q
Q
A
AO
Thank
you,
ladies
and
gentlemen.
Mr
chairman
I'll
be
briefing
rebuttal.
AO
Again
talked
a
lot
about
law
and
there's
some
disagreement
about
what
the
law
is.
I've
read
you
a
case
from
the
Supreme
Court
that
says,
and
right
after
Mr
Hilbert
said
that
it
didn't
say
what
I
said.
He
actually
read
it
and
he
read
it
the
same
way.
I
read
it.
We
hold
the
municipality
May
properly,
refuse
a
building
permit
for
a
land
use
in
a
newly
annexed
area.
AO
AO
Why
did
the
county
go
back
and
change
the
language
as
County
Council
in
the
process
of
doing
unnecessary
things,
so
they
have
to
go
in
and
clarify
ordinances
that
are
already
very
clear,
so
clear
that
he
says
it's
obvious.
That
golf
was
not
allowed
when
it
says
that
golf
courses
of
nine
or
more
holes
are
not
allowed
and
I
drew
some
liar
when
I
talked
about
Community
interest
versus
property
rights.
AO
The
same
argument
Mr
Hilbert
made
I,
was
involved
in
a
case
when
the
town
of
Hilton
had
said
you
can't
have
an
outdoor
go-kart
anywhere
on
Hilton
Head
Island,
because
our
zoning
code
doesn't
expressly
allow
for
it.
If
any
of
you
have
been
to
the
Broad
Creek
Marina
you'll
see
that
there
is
an
outdoor
golf
cart,
golf
sorry,
go-kart
go-kart
course.
AO
There
now
not
golf
carts
plenty
of
golf
carts
everywhere,
go-kart
track,
there's
a
go-kart
track
on
Hilton
Head
that
exists
under
the
same
idea
that,
after
these
ordinances
are
passed,
if
you,
if
it's
not
the
use,
is
not
prohibited.
It's
allowed
that
use
was
allowed
until
it
was
changed
in
a
specific
targeting
of
this
ordinance,
which
was
this
property,
which
was
not
a
newly
annexed
area,
and
there
was
not
a
particular
scheme
of
rezoning
if
he
wants
to
mention
well,
there
were
eight
County
councilmen
gathered
at
a
meeting.
AO
So,
if
he's,
if
he's
saved,
the
particular
scheme
of
rezoning
occurred
in
an
illegal
Gathering,
okay,
council
members,
well,
then
that's
not
something
that
you
can
rely
upon
and
when
he
says
the
County's
position
is
clear.
I
think
something
that's
being
forgotten
is
for
those
of
you
that
were
on
this
committee
on
this
Commission
on
January
5th
and
were
present
at
that
meeting
might
remember
when
the
County
Administrator
Mr
Greenway,
said
well,
you
know
what
this
applicant
can
do.
He
can
subdivide
the
property
and
he
can
have
six
holes
of
golf
on
each
one.
B
AO
The
county
is
talking
about
its
position,
not
when
it's
been
sued
for
an
illegal
application
of
the
pending
ordinance
Doctrine,
but
when
someone's
getting
up
and
speaking
the
truth
in
a
meeting
when
they
don't
have
anything
particularly
at
stake.
That's
when
the
truth
is
set
and
in
that
meeting,
which
many
of
you
all
were
here,
that's
what
was
said.
The
applicant
can
subdivide
the
property
and
go
with
six
holes
on
each.
AO
That
was
what
was
submitted.
Mr
Hilbert's
explanation
about
Vester
rights
and
I,
know
y'all
heard
more
about
case
law
more
about
all
this
than
you
ever
wanted
to
is
inaccurate.
For
this
reason,
when
a
statute
is
going
to
displace
all
the
cases
that
came
before
it,
it
will
say
so.
It
will
say
that
this
displaces
the
common
law
that
came
before
it.
If
you
look
at
the
2004
vested
Rights
Act,
it
does
not
say
that,
and
that
reason
is
fairness.
AO
The
vested
Rights
Act
creates
a
certain
right
once
a
preliminary
plaque
or
a
conceptual
plan,
or
something
like
that
is
created,
but
it's
not
the
sole
recognition
of
that.
There
are
other
rights,
and
the
Constitution
also
comes
into
play
to
say
that
when
you
rely
and
you
purchase
a
property-
and
you
can
spend
money
in
good
faith,
relying
on
existing
zoning,
you
submit
an
application.
AO
You
have
the
right
for
it
to
be
processed
and
acted
upon,
and
people
this
County
included,
don't
doesn't
normally
move
the
goal
posts
on
people
and
then
retroactively
change,
something
that
was
valid
when
you
submitted
it.
This
clearly
was
there's
reason
why,
if
you
just
want
to
eliminate
the
ability
to
have
a
golf
course,
why
not
just
say
golf
course?
Why
not
just
say
golf
when
that
language
was
included?
AO
The
reason
would
be
to
allow
golf
courses
of
lesser
size,
which
was
what
the
applicant
presented
and
is
what
the
county
wrongfully
refused
to
process
until
they
had
gotten
first
reading
of
an
amendment
that
they
could
use
to
block
it
so
I.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
attention
for
staying
past.
The
normal
time
when
you
would
have
these
meetings
I,
thank
you
all
for
your
public
service.
Thank
all
the
folks
that
are
here
to
participate
and
something
that's
important
to
everybody.
AO
A
AB
A
A
Against
right
on
all
right,
we're
going
to
adjourn
for
some.
If
our
legal
counsel,
we
hopefully
will
be
back
in
what
15
minutes
yeah.
I
A
A
Dancing
patience
at
this
late
hour
in
the
evening.
Just
for
the
record.
We
did
not
take
a
boat
in
executive
session
as
to
how
to
proceed
on
the
issue,
but
we
did
come
up
with
questions
that
we
would
like
to
ask
to
just
better
clarify
our
understanding
of,
what's
appropriate,
to
face
our
decision
on
someone
like
to
offer
the
first
question
successfully.
AO
Oh,
oh
yes,
March
7th
was
when
it
was
thank.
You
was
when
it
was
submitted
and
then
the
request
for
additional
items
were
were
made
and,
and
those
were
provided
again.
The
issue
with
the
archaeological
survey
is
that
when
items
are
identified,
even
the
state
does
not
like
for
those
to
be
made
part
of
the
public
record
per
se.
Because
then,
if
someone
wants
to
go
with
their
metal
detector
and
go
find
some
things,
that's
deemed
as
something
that's
not
desirable.
So
a
lot
of
times
those
results
are
not
included
and
Miss.
AO
C
AO
AO
Lot
of
times
the
process
will
go
on
over
years
in
terms
of
additional
items,
but
I
understand
your
statement.
Okay,.
Q
E
Q
Q
Q
Q
County
reviews
it
and
they
have
that
up
to
60
days,
to
review
it
as
I
said
and
when
we
staff
that
approved
that
it's
complete
and
it's
final
and
approved.
That's
when
it's
a
complete
application,
but
they
come
back
when
they've
got
all
that
stuff
for
the
application
to
which
they
could
get.
The
review
for
the
permit
is
that
correct,
Rob
all.
C
N
Thank
you,
the
requested
items
that
were
deemed
necessary
to
deem
the
application
complete.
If
you
will
the
first
one,
the
noi
has
never
been
on
an
application
checklist
anywhere
in
Beaver
County
that
any
of
my
engineers
and
designers
have
ever
seen
one
two,
the
natural
resources
survey
I,
want
everyone
to
understand
how
this
works,
but
natural
resources,
determination
done
by
the
Natural
Resources
Director
I'm.
Sorry,
if
I'm
messing.
B
N
If
she
happened
to
be
on
vacation,
I
hope
the
archeology
stuff
is
sensitive
to
me,
because
it's
extremely
important
when
I
first
got
here.
Everyone
references
all
the
money
that
I
spent
on
studies
ahead
of
time.
I
had
a
purpose
of
seeing
it
I
had
whatever
I
did
three
times
the
state
standards
would.
N
The
director
then
said
we
have
to
see
that,
but
the
director
said
that
after
I
orchestrated
a
phone
call
with
this,
the
shippo
Rob,
Larson
and
Rob
Larson
from
the
shippo
said,
do
not
release
that
material
because
it
will
get
looted
period.
Ask
Larry,
Roland,
ask
the
shippo,
ask
anybody
in
authority
of
that,
and
they
will
be
very
clear.
It
is
the
disrespectful
thing
to
do
to
put
it
on
a
map.
I
was
reticent
not
for
timing,
but
because
of
the
respect
for
the
culture
and
the
things
that
are
on
that
property.
N
N
So
it
looks
like
it's
on
my
property
and
it's
not
so
for
me
to
release
that
information
is
disrespectful
to
the
very
artifacts
and
people
who
may
represent
all
right
and
I'm,
not
apologize
for
the
director
to
hold
up
my
application,
deeming
it
incomplete
because
of
the
art
archaeological
resources,
because
I
did
the
survey
ahead
of
time
that
he
would
have
requested.
Anyways
is
ridiculous
and
rude
to
that.
Very
those
very
people
and
the
shippo
told
him
not
to
I'm
sorry
about
my
animation,
but
that
is
literally.
A
L
I
guess
I
have
a
question
if
there
were
letters
between
Hillary,
Austin
and
lawyer
nemek.
If
forgive
me,
if
I'm
mispronouncing
her
name
about
the
completeness
of
this
application,
correct
so
I
guess
the
boxes
I
saw
were
I
mean
it
was
very
clear.
Please
get
a
letter
from
you.
L
County
of
Natural
Resources,
please
get
a
letter
of
determination
and
it
seems
to
me
that
you
took
it
on
on
your
own
volition,
particularly
the
archaeological
survey
as
you've
described,
to
exceed
the
county
requirements.
So
clearly
you
knew
whether
or
not
there
was
a
box
to
check
you
knew
it
had
to
be
done
so
I'm
confused.
Why
you
didn't
see
that
well,
why
you're
objecting.
L
B
N
I,
don't
do
the
archaeological
determination
that
is
done
by
the
county;
they
can
do
it
on
their
own
time,
meaning
they
can
take
as
much
time
as
they
need
to
now.
Run
that
through
that
timeline
and
tell
me
why
it
happened
in
the
time
frame
that
it
happened
from
the
7th
to
the
24th
and
then
juxtapose
that
to
when
things
got
published
the
morning
of
the
night
of
whatever
day
you
want,
we
can
go
in
circles
all
day,
but
I
mean
it.
R
A
M
So
I
have
a
question
and
I'm,
not
sure
who
would
be
best
positioned
to
answer
this.
It
had
to
do
with
the
three
development
plans
for
the
a
b
and
c
courses.
N
M
And
part
of
my
questions
are
the
result
of
the
fact
that
it
was
kind
of
hard
to
review
the
plans
on
a
small
computer
screen
when
there
are
several
sheets
that
make
up
each
course
and
just.
M
Yeah
I'm
sure,
yeah
and
I'll
also
state
that
I'm
not
a
golfer.
So
if
my
questions
are
ignorant,
please
forgive
me.
Oh.
M
So
one
of
the
questions
I
had
and
it
wasn't
clear
when
I
was
trying
to
skim
through
the
drawings.
Is
there
a
clubhouse.
M
Okay,
I
noticed
on
I
think
it
was
course
B.
It
showed
a
practice
area.
Well,
what
does
that
consist
of.
N
N
M
M
N
The
maintenance
facility,
meaning
each
individual
Golf
Course-
may
need
its
own
maintenance.
Is
there
we
go
with
this.
N
Does
this
lawn
have
its
own
lawnmower
in
a
in
a
community?
It's
people
can
mow
Lawns,
but
no
I
I
do
not
know
I'm
happy
to
check
it
out
for
you.
If
I
get
the
application
in
front
of
me.
M
O
B
M
N
Have
to
defer
to
the
engineers
that
design
the
plans
but
as
far
as
buffer
requirements,
when
and
I
forget
the
matrix
it's
Cubes,
but
recreational
Recreation
has
no
established
buffer,
that's
required
by
Beaufort
County
CDC.
M
Well
and
I
wasn't
referring
to
buffer
just
to
whether
or
not
these
three
courses
could
literally
function
as
three
independent
courses
or
if
you
had
to
use
the
one
road
to
be
able
to
get
to
course,
B
through
course
a
or
course
C
Etc
in.
AP
M
Island,
okay
and
then
my
last
question:
are
there
cart?
Rentals
was
there?
Are
there
going
to
be
carts?
Golf
carts.
T
N
You
could
get
back
into
not
being
a
golfer.
My
goal
is
to
have
a
walking
environment
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why?
Because
you'll
learn
a
lot
more
doing
that
with
history
embedded
throughout
the
golfing
experience
based
on
our
archeology
work
than
you
do,
driving
around
on
a
golf
cart,
flying
around
ignoring
everything,
and
so.
N
There
will
be
some
golf
carts
for
people
that
have
difficulty
walking,
but
that's
a
future
operational
plan
that
I
have
yet
to
determine
so
unclear.
N
C
C
Clearly,
you
haven't
thought
too
much
about
this
yet,
but
there's
lots
that
goes
into
a
golf
course.
Where
do
you
plan
to
put
your
golf
course?
Chemicals
is
that
going
to
be
in
the
maintenance
area.
L
Have
a
quick
question
in
at
the
staff
review
a
team
on
March
8.?
L
L
Have
you
ever
considered
given
to
go
back
to
what
the
gentleman
was
talking
about
the
three
courses
about
placing
a
deed
restriction
on
the
parcels
that
they
shall
not
be
combined?
Are
you
committed
to
having
these
three
Parcels
with
a
deed
restriction
so
that
they
cannot
at
a
future
date,
be
combined
I.
N
Believe
you're
referencing
the
question
that
Miss
Austin
asked
in
that
SRT
meeting
of.
Is
there
something
we
could
do
to
make
them
so
they
can't
be
combined.
That's
a
discussion
that
I
would
love
to
have
in
terms
of
a
compromise
but
I'm
unequipped
to
answer
that,
because
I
don't
understand
how
that
works.
But
what
I
will
tell
you
is
in
the
broader
vision
of
never
having
anything
other
than
a
golf
course
here.
N
They
do
not
consider
private
amenities
as
open
space
because
they
can
be
developed
in
the
future.
So
in
order
to
never
have
that
happen,
I
would
consider
those
things
and
even
beyond
that
Ironically
in
Hilton
Head.
We
are
fighting
a
golf
course
that
wants
to
change
their
zoning
to
become
a
residential
community
and
the
community
is
flipping
out
in
Colleton
County
we
are
literally
get.
N
They
are
literally
giving
tax
breaks
to
a
golf
course
developer
so
that
they
can
come
in
and
develop
a
private
golf
course
in
a
rural
area,
so
they
do
not
develop
large-scale
subdivisions.
These
are
all
the
inputs
into
the
equation
of.
How
do
we
make
sure
one
that
this
is
a
one
and
done
scenario,
because
no
knucklehead
on
the
planet
labels
themselves
a
developer,
whatever
deed,
restrict,
put
conservation
easements
over
or
take
money
out
of
their
own
pockets
and
throw
in
the
air?
N
L
N
Life,
you
know
cecially,
it's
a
really
hard
thing
to
answer,
because
it
dives
into
the
business
model
that
we've
created
and
so
for
me,
if
I
take
a
step
back
and
I
want
to
answer
the
question
in
terms
of
it
would
would
x
amount
of
permanent
new
residence
be
better
than
y
3x.
Then
that
should
suffice
in
a
world
of
negotiation,
we're
not
in
negotiation,
we're
in
a
hey.
Let
me
trapping
into
saying
what
he
doesn't.
You
know
know.
N
You
yeah
no
I,
appreciate
it,
and,
and
so,
but
for
me
to
tell
a
homeowner
that
they
couldn't
live
there.
Full
time
would
be
tough
I'd,
be
willing
to
consider
it
as
part
of
a
larger
equation,
but
I
mean
I.
Don't
have
the
answer
right
now,
because
I
haven't
even
gotten
to
that
point,
and
that
is
certainly
something
in
the
equation
of
what
we're
willing
to
do
in
order
to
come
to
a
pragmatic
compromise
that
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
area.
N
AL
AN
AL
Q
Q
He
has
to
submit
the
natural
resources
determination,
letter
from
Amanda
flake,
the
applicant
Shel
Smith,
the
archaeological
determination
letter
from
Elizabeth
Anderson.
The
applicant
shall
submit
the
DHEC
noi
application
that
was
sent
on
March
9th
the
very
next
day
on
March
10th
attorney.
Nemec
responded
challenging
these
three
determinations.
Q
The
pre-op
meeting
occurred
on
March
8th
on
March
15th
is
when
Hillary
sent
the
notes
from
the
pre-op
meeting
to
them,
listing
those
deficiencies
on
March
16th.
She
sent
the
letter
I
referred
to
to
miss
nemec
talking
about
why
the
application
was
still
incomplete.
We've
received
the
DHEC
noi,
but
two
things
were
still
missing
and
she
explains
to
attorney
nemec
What's
missing
that
very
next
day
attorney
emick
had
the
meeting
with
the
county
attorney
Bernie
Ward,
the
planning
director,
the
archaeological
director
and
attorney
emic
to
resolve
those
two
missing
documents.
AL
Q
Resources
letter
and
the
archaeological
letter,
the
very
next
week
on
March
23rd,
they
submittered
they
submitted
the
archaeological
letter
minus
that
plant.
That
I
talked
about
missing
the
identification
where
the
artifacts
were
that
Mr
treviano
is
concerned
about,
understandably
so
and
then
March
24th,
the
very
next
day.
We
got
the
natural
resources
letter
determination
and
then
that
very
same
day
we
responded
to
Thompson
Hutton
telling
them
about
it's
considered,
complete
and
will
schedule
the
SRT.
But
we
still
need
the
site
plan
identifying
where
the
artifacts
were
for
that
meeting.
Q
A
Q
G
G
G
M
Q
A
A
A
Q
L
Q
Q
Q
It
goes
through
a
checklist
and
it
clearly
says:
Community
Development
concept
plan
application.
It's
a
separate
application
from
a
final
application,
so
we
have
a
pre-app.
You
have
a
conceptual
and
you
have
a
final
there's
three
different
application
processes
for
major
Land
Development
for
a
golf
course.
That's
a
major
Land
Development,
our
CEC,
so
you
have
to
have
a
freedom.
Q
You
did
that
you
requested
it
on
March
3rd
and
that
occurred
on
March,
8th,
March,
7th
they
Smith
plans
and,
if
they're
wanting
to
say,
starts
their
vested
rights
for
the
March
24th
when
they
think
it's
completed,
but
you're
still
talking
about
a
conceptual
plan,
not
a
final
plan
under
their
case
law.
Again,
don't
forget
what
I
said.
As
far
as
vested
rights
that's
been
overruled
by
the
legislation.
The
legislation
cleared
that
up
for
Land
Development,
but
our
code
did
not
specifically
authorize
golf
courses
as
they're.
Q
A
O
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Pardon
me
Henley,
so
if
y'all
would
indulge
me
for
a
moment,
I
think
that
there
are
a
number
of
you
know,
key
questions
that
have
been
posed
and
because
of
the
somewhat
complex
and
legally
raw
issues
here,
I
hope
you
don't
mind
if
I
ask
some
very
pointed
questions
to
y'all,
so
that
I
can
assist
you
with
the
drafting
of
your
motion
and
drafting
a
final
order
again.
O
O
So
the
the
the
first
question
that
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
clear
discussion
of
so
when
drafting
that
motion
I
can
have
that
assistance
and
have
y'all
discuss,
discuss
between
amongst
yourselves
and
with
any
input
from
the
the
parties.
Here
is
whether,
when
the
you
know
whether
under
the
old
iteration
called
the
old
iteration
of
the
CPA,
that
says
and
I'd
like
to
just
quote
it
precisely
fuel,
allow
me
to
the
following
uses:
are
deemed
to
be
incompatible
with
the
CPO
Zone
and
therefore
are
prohibited.
Golf
course.
D
O
The
second
question
that
I
think
needs
to
be
answered
if,
depending
on
the
way
that's
answered
has
to
do
with
the
pending
ordinance
Doctrine
and
it
has
to
has
to
do
with
when
that
application
was
deemed
submitted
and
received
by
the
county.
You.
R
G
O
21St
is
the
earliest
date
and
then,
finally,
with
vested
rights,
there
are
questions
about
invested
rights
and
the
elements
with
there
there
are
has
the
applicant
demonstrated
for
substantial
expenditures
and
preparation
of
the
permit
and
second
good
faith
Reliance
on
the
old
code,
and
that
is
again
both
the
pending
Ordnance
invested
rights
are
questions
to
ask
if
you
do
not
believe
that
this
CPO,
the
original
iteration
of
the
CPO,
prohibited
this
application.
O
So
I
am
here
to
help
y'all.
If
you
have
any
questions,
if
you
have
any
questions
about
how
to
do
the
statutory
interpretation,
the
different
cases
that
were
mentioned
by
both
the
applicant
and
the
county,
if
you
have
questions
about
invested
rights,
I'm
here
to
answer
those
or
if
you
need
help
drafting
that
motion,
but
I
turn
it
over
to
y'all
and
await
instruction.
A
O
I
I,
we
shouldn't
drafted
an
executive
session.
That's
what
I
think
because
of
the
complexity
of
this
I've
been
taking
notes.
As
we've
been
going
and
I've
got
a
I've
got
what
I
think.
Maybe
a
proposed
motion,
but
I
would
like
to
hear
the
discussion
that
y'all's
final
discussion
and
if
anybody
is
willing
to
make
a
motion
I
can
provide
them
by
my
document.
That
has
a
proposed
motion
based
off
again
what
I've?
What
I've
heard
today.
L
We've
got
the
one
that
maybe
hasn't
been
answered,
which
is
how
would
you
define
acting
in
good
faith,
I
think
those
that
was
the
word
used.
It's.
O
B
It
said
you.
O
Know
where
the
plaintiff
had
knowledge
of
the
proposed
zoning
order
ordinance,
they
do
not
act
in
good
faith
and
expanding
money
in
connection
with
the
project.
Good
faith
is
not
present
when
there
is
a
land
with
knowledge
that
the
adoption
of
a
zoning
ordinance
is
imminent.
On
the
other
hand,
you
have
that
pure
oil
division
case
where
the
South
Carolina
Supreme
Court,
stated
that
there
was
good
faith
for
Alliance.
O
They
found
that
there
was
good
faith
for
lines
because
again,
as
and
I'm
trying
I'm
trying
to
provide
both
sides
here,
as
the
county
has
pointed
out,
the
applicant
has
pointed
out.
There
was
whether
there
was
good
faith.
Reliance
in
that
case
depends
on.
Was
this
expressly
permitted?
Was
it
not,
and
was
there
knowledge
of
a
potential
zoning
change,
and
was
there
a
rush
to
try
to
push
that
through
before
right?.
L
So
what
we
do
know
there
is
a
letter
from
Eric
Greenlee
County
Administrator
to
Pine
Island
Golf
Club
LLC
Mr
tropiano,
indicating
that
they're
this
is
in
November
November
30th,
the
Beaufort
County
planning
and
zoning
department
is
currently
pursuing
a
text
Amendment
to
the
Community
Development
code
relative
to
the
CPO.
Accordingly,
the
application
which
you
recently
submitted
shall
be
held
active
pending
and
all
action
on
the
application
shall
be
deferred
until
the
Beaufort
County
Council
has
had
an
opportunity
to
review
it.
X
L
That
that
the
CPO
was
under
a
potential
text,
Amendment
revision
does
that
fit
the
fair
Reliance,
Doctrine
or
referee.
Whatever
you
call.
O
AE
L
To
talk
about
I'm
happy
to
bring
it
up,
but
it
seems
fairly
straightforward.
My
other
question
is
whether
or
not
amongst
us
was
the
developer.
Was
there
enough
notice,
as
required
by
freedom
of
the
information
act
and
arm
meetings
and
the
CPO
committee
meetings
at
the
St
Helena
Library?
Are
we
satisfied
that
the
developer
was
given
enough
notice
and
that
we
complied
with
the
regulations
of
the
county?
Yes,.
M
I'll
I
gotta
start
the
conversation
back
to
council's
first
question
that
had
to
do
with
whether
or
not
6-0
course
is
something
that
was
a
right.
B
M
The
old
language
and
I
think
in
order
to
really
address
that
we
have
to
consider
not
only
the
text
within
the
the
CPO
but
also
the
language,
the
definition
language
that
was
subsequently
modified
in
the
community
development
code
because,
while
while
the
CPO
language
talks
about
including
both
nine
hole
and
regular
regulation
courses,
the
definition
in
the
community
development
code
is
much
more
specific.
And
it
basically
says
that
a
golf
course
is
defined
as
regulation
and
Par
3
courses
having
nine
or
more
holes.
M
And
then
it
goes
on
to
say,
accessory
facilities
and
uses,
including
driving
ranges.
Clubhouses
Etc.
So
I
think
when
you
look
in
the
context
of
the
language
in
the
CPO
in
total,
as
well
as
the
definition
that
existed
in
the
community
development
code.
To
me
that
doesn't
indicate
the
sexual
course
is
a
buy
right
use
for
the
old
language.
C
C
AN
C
L
C
C
C
Everybody
talking
about
with,
as
far
as
the
after
the
application,
the
applicant
date,
three
seven
three
twenty
four
I
think
it's
324..
However,
our
County
Council
attorney
rather
told
us
it's
a
conceptual
plan,
so
it's
not
really
considered
to
be
an
application
until
it's
stamped
approved
so.
O
And
perhaps
that
may
be
a
better
question
for
Mr
Holbert.
If
that's,
if
you
had
that
question
about
what
what
is
the
difference
between
an
actual
development
plan,
application
first
conceptual
and.
G
AO
Yeah-
and
there
was
a
lot
of
questions
about
a
six
minute
presentation,
I
believe
there's
some
point
where
the
presentation
does
need
to
end
the
part
that
both
parties
need
to
speak
and
once
discussion
period
started,
I
think
that
really
had
a
problematic
procedure.
Initially,
these
questions
directed
to
one.
A
O
I
think
the
proper
process
would
be
to
for
whoever
would
like
to
make
a
motion.
If
you
would
like
to
review
this,
make
any
changes
that
you've
deem
appropriate
or
best.
This
is
just
a
recommendation
based
off
of
what
I've
heard
today.
Ultimately,
whatever
motion
you
all
make
needs
to
be
supported
by
the
testimony
that
you've
heard
today
in
the
appeal
documents,
but
any
you
have
three
options.
You
have
the
emotion
to
affirm
the
decision
of
the
Beaufort
County
Planning
Department.
O
A
O
Typically,
what
you
will
have
is
some
limited
support
that
will
be
more
thoroughly
explained
in
the
in
the
written
order.
But
most
of
your
support
and
evidence
is
included
within
this
testimony
today
in
the
appeal
submittals.
But
we
do
have
some
some
additional
language
there
just
to
actually
find
the
sustaining
grounds
or
the
the
grounds
for
reversal.
O
And
I
would
and
I
would
argue,
not.
A
A
L
Of
course,
oh
to
make
it
complete.
Okay,
let's
see
hold
on
regarding
you,
know
the
Pine
Island
people
I,
guess
that's
the
best
way
to
say
it.
L
Right
got
it
regarding
the
Pine
Island
Golf
Course,
a
b
and
c
all
three,
because
we,
the
applicant
attorney,
asked
if
the
abnc
could
be
S1,
so
I'm
not
going
to
make
a
motion
that
delineates
I'm
going
to
say
all
three
of
them
for
conceptual
plan
for
Pine
Island.
Six
little
golf
course,
of
course,
is
three
six
one
golf
courses
so
I
affirm
that
the
planning
depart
the
decision
of
the
Beaufort
County
Planning
Department
affirm
their
decision
to
deny
the
applicants
appeal
for.
O
And
before
there's
a
second
I
highly
recommend
that
y'all
State
the
reasons
for
your
this
position
that
that's
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
I
wrote
out
were
different,
sustaining
grounds
for
your
position.
O
Well,
your
your
motion
is
still
on
the
floor.
Okay,.
L
The
reasons
would
be
that
developments
proposed
by
the
applicant
are
golf
courses,
and
golf
courses
are
prohibited
in
the
CPO
District
under
the
existing
ordinances
and
the
prior
iteration
of
the
ordinance
and
I
would
say
all
prior
iterations
of
the
ordinance
two
that
the
applications
at
issue
were
originally
submitted
by
the
applicant
to
the
county
on
March
7th.
However,
the
applications
were
incomplete
due
to
the
applicant's
failure
to
include
mandatory
supplemental
reports
and
Exhibits.
L
The
applications
were
not
complete
until
March
24th
when
they
were
received
by
and
accepted
by
Ms
Austin
and
as
of
March
24th.
The
county
had
already
published
notice
to
the
community
and
the
developer
of
its
intent
to
revise
the
zoning
ordinance
for
the
CPO
District,
as
I
said
earlier,
I
think
the
applicant
knew
that
back
in
November
through
that
letter,
the
developer
preserved
little
to
no
evidence
presented
little
to
no
evidence
that
he
made
substantial
expenditures
in
preparation
of
the
permit
application.
L
C
B
C
L
Opinion
I,
don't
think
so.
I
think
we
I
think
the
evidence
that
was
presented
to
us
at
least
made
it
clear
to
me
that
that
kind
of
isn't
top
of
mind.
L
O
A
A
AG
O
I
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
is
a
motion
to
amend
the
the
motion.
That's
on
the
floor
with
a
another
finding
that
there
was
not
a
finding
of
a
vested
right
under
the
Beaufort
County
code
or
the
South
Carolina
coat
of
laws,
because
the
application
that
was
submitted
was
not
stamped
and
approved.
But
rather
it
was
just.
It
was
just
received.
L
So
I
meant
my
emotion
to
add
that
we'd
there
is
not
a
finding
of
vestive
Rights
under
the
Community
Development
code,
because
the
application
was
not
stamped
and
approved,
but
it
was
noted
as
received
correct.
Second.