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AGENDA
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT
The Historic Preservation Commission will not hear new items after 9:30 p.m. unless authorized by
a majority vote of the Commission Members present. Items which have not been heard before
9:30 p.m. may be continued to the next regular meeting or a special meeting date as determined
by the Commission Members.
IV. NOTICE REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENTS*
Every member of the public who is recognized to speak shall address the Chairman and in
speaking, avoid disrespect to Commission, Staff, or other members of the Meeting. State your
name and address when speaking for the record. COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE (3)
MINUTES.
V. ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA
VI. ADOPTION OF MINUTES
1. September 7, 2022 Minutes
VII. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA*
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
IX. NEW BUSINESS
1. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by James Atkins on behalf of the owner, Ryan
Williamson, for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness- HD to allow the construction of a
new accessory structure of approximately 80 SF to be located at 1301 May River, in the
Promenade Development, in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood
Core-HD. (COFA-04-22-016686) (Staff - Katie Peterson)
Town of Bluffton, SC Historic Preservation Commission Agenda October 05, 2022
2. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Pearce Scott Architects, on behalf of the Owner,
Billy Watterson, for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness - HD to allow the construction
of a new 3,985 SF 2-story mixed-use building identified as De Maket, which will be in the Ma
Daisy's Porch Development Plan, on the parcel currently addressed as 1255 May River Road,
in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General-HD. (COFA-06-22-
016822) (Staff - Katie Peterson)
3. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Pearce Scott Architects, on behalf of the Owner,
Billy Watterson, for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness - HD to allow the construction
of a new 2,936 SF 2-story restaurant building and a 1,200 SF restaurant Carriage House
structure and 120 SF commercial garden structure which will be in the Ma Daisy's Porch
Development Plan, on the parcel currently addressed as 1255 May River Road, in the Old
Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General-HD. (COFA-06-22-016823)
(Staff - Katie Peterson)
4. Certificate of Appropriateness: A request by Pearce Scott Architects, on behalf of the owner
Billy Waterson, for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness to allow the relocation and
reconstruction of the 1,186 SF Contributing Resource known as the Deer Tongue Warehouse,
the reconstruction of the existing 378 SF front porch, and the construction of a rear addition
of approximately 348 SF to the structure located at 1255 May River Road (Tax Parcel R610-
039-00A-0235-0000) in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood
General-HD. (COFA-06-22-016821) (Staff - Glen Umberger)
X. DISCUSSION
XI. ADJOURNMENT
NEXT MEETING DATE: Wednesday, November 2, 2022
A
A
Notice
regarding
a
German
historic
preservation,
Commission
on
new
items
after
9
30
PM,
unless
authorized
by
majority
vote
of
the
commission
members
present
items
which
not
have
been
heard
before
9
30
may
be
completed
for
the
next
regular
meeting
or
special
meeting
date
as
determined
by
the
commission
members
regarding
public
comments.
Every
member
of
the
public
who's
recognized
this
week
shall
address
the
chairman
and,
in
speaking,
avoid
disrespect
to
commission
staff
and
other
members
of
the
meeting
state.
Your
name
address
when
speed
s
for
the
record
comments
are
limited
to
three
minutes.
B
A
F
So
tonight
the
first
application
on
our
agenda
is
the
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
allow
the
construction
of
a
new
accessory
structure
of
approximately
80
square
feet
to
be
located
at
1301
May,
River
Road.
It
is
in
the
Promenade
development,
which
is
an
Old
Town,
Boston
historic
district,
and
it
is
owned,
neighborhood
core
h.
F
This
is
the
building
at
1301.
This
is
the
farm
you
have
seen
this
building
recently
because
these
stairways
were
added
on
just
recently
that
application
was
before
you
tonight.
The
application
is
a
request
for
this
cooler
structure
here
on
the
rear
of
the
building,
which
is
the
lighter
of
the
two
accessory
structures
behind
the
struct
behind
the
primary
structure.
F
A
proposed
rear
and
left
elevations
are
here.
So
this
is
the
north
elevation,
which
this
is,
if
you
were
standing
in,
the
parking
area.
Kind
of
the
dumpster
is
off
to
the
the
left
hand
side
of
the
screen
here
and
then
the
west
elevation.
This
is,
if
you
were
standing
closer
to
the
entrance
to
the
Promenade.
F
F
This
is
the
rendering
that
they
provided
so
it'll
be
seated
next
to
the
existing
accessory
structure,
that's
back
there
and
then
they
did
provide
an
example
of
an
eight
foot
high
service
fence.
This
is
in
the
highway
Corridor.
Just
as
a
note,
it
is
in
the
in
downtown
Bluffton,
but
it's
in
the
highway
corner
there,
and
then
this
is
the
structure
detail.
So
it
is
a
rectangular
box
structure
that
is
made
of
metal.
F
As
the
HPC
considers
a
request
for
a
certificate
of
Apartments,
there
are
eight
review
criteria.
They
are
found
in
section
318-3
of
our
unified
development,
ordinance
and
chpc
is
authorized
to
approve.
The
application
is
submitted
by
the
applicant,
approve
the
application
with
conditions
or
deny
the
application,
as
submitted
by
the
applicant
staff,
has
found
that
it
doesn't
meet
the
criteria
and
should
be
denied
based
on
the
following
criteria.
The
first
is
that
the
structure
does
not
comply
with
the
architectural
standards.
F
A
prefabricated
cooler
does
not
comply
with
those
because
it
doesn't
need
the
wall,
material
or
the
roof
material
for
it.
The
second
one
is
the
is
the
walls
and
the
third
is
the
roof,
so
those
on
top
of
each
other's
make
up
the
first
one
there
and
then
the
fourth
one
is
that
in
rear
inside
yards,
Garden
walls,
fences
and
hedges
shall
be
a
maximum
of
six
feet
in
height.
F
G
G
You
can
see
where
the
dumpster
is.
It's
actually
not
off
to
the
left,
it's
directly
behind,
where
you
really
don't
even
see
what
we're
being
proposed
from
that
the
defenses
being
maintained,
the
fence
is
being
maintained,
that's
around
the
existing
Transformer
and
then
really
the
only
place
that
you
would
see.
This
is
behind
these
cars.
G
F
There
has
been
a
fence
that
has
been
approved
at
a
higher
a
higher
height
than
what
is
the
six
feet.
There
have
been
a
couple
examples
of
this
in
the
rare
structures.
However,
we
have
not
yet
approved
a
structure
that
does
not
meet
the
architectural
standards
to
fit
inside
that.
This
is
a
cooler
which
has
the
space
in
it.
That
is
a
portion
of
the
operation
of
a
the
use.
F
So
it's
a
cooler
for
the
restaurant
and
we
do
not
have
yet
a
standalone
cooler
that
does
not
meet
the
architectural
standards
because
it
is
identified
as
either
a
carriage
house
or
garden
structure
depending
on
the
size
of
it.
The
language
about
Garden
structures
that
spoke
to
the
commercial
aspect
of
it
has
been
removed
from
the
Udo,
so
it
could
be
classified
as
either
a
garden
structure
or
a
carriage
house,
but
either
one
of
those
does
need
to
meet
the
architectural
standards.
G
And
I
guess
to
so
my
question:
is
it's
the
piece
of
equipment
which
can
be
taken
apart,
really
not
much
different
than
swapping
out
a
10
pounds,
screened
walls?
So
that's
where
and
in
this
particular
instance,
that's
fronted
by
a
dumpster,
a
large
trash
compactor
and
a
Transformer.
That's
already
screened
asking
for
consideration
that
in
this
specific
instance,
with
the
existing
conditions
that
already
screened
I
said,
we
don't
see
this
structure
at
all.
We
do
want
to
screen
the
piece
of
equipment.
G
I
will
I
will
say
that
if
we
go
back
to
this
elevation
here
and
you
can
see
the
existing
structure
on
the
left,
which
is
board
and
Baton
with
a
sloped
roof-
and
you
can,
we
did
add
a
detailed.
We
put
this
not
down
as
reference,
but
just
as
a
here's,
a
example
of
a
detail
where
the
solid
part
of
the
service
yard
is
six
feet
tall.
G
G
G
H
H
I
H
D
D
I
mean
I,
can
I
mean
this
is
I
mean
back
there,
a
fair
amount,
I
mean
I.
Do
get
your
point
that
this
is
a
completely
I
would
say
like
utilitarian
area,
the
I
mean
the
current
dumpster
does
cover
most
of
it,
but
I
mean
to
me
I.
Think
I
mean
what
you've
I
would
have
to
feel
comfortable.
I
would
only
feel
comfortable
with
what
you
outlined
before,
which
would
be
truly
making
this
a
garden
structure.
D
G
I
F
Classified
as
a
carriage
house
at
the
time
that
they
came
through
because
it
the
definition,
can
you
scroll
up
the
very
last
page
of
this
slideshow
I'm?
Sorry,
if
you're
standing
here,
oh
keep
going
there,
you
go
so
the
garden
structure.
Definition
it
previously
had
information
in
there
that
didn't
allow
for
any
commercial
use
in
it,
so
it
would
have
been
classified
as
a
carriage
house,
because
the
Promenade
is
under
a
development
plan
that
predates
this
ordinance.
L
L
A
D
Think
that
that
would
be
nice,
that's
what
I'm
asking
and
that
would
be
no
I,
I,
think
I
mean
and
I'll
let
rest
of
the
board.
Yeah
I
would
like
it
open
I
mean
that's.
My
hang
up.
Is
that
there's
not
a
roof,
so
it's
not
a
structure,
it's
just
a
three-sided
fence,
but
I,
it's
our
it's
in
hell.
Looking
at
this
I
mean
I
would
be
fine
with
having
it
open
with
Flats
at
the
top,
as
you
currently
have
it.
I
think
it's.
D
G
A
G
What's
inside
of
it,
basically,
what
I
would
propose
if
you
all
would
feel
like
if
the
notion
of
a
nine
and
a
half
foot
tall
okay,
but
you
know
asking
for
a
modulation
on
the
height
of
the
service
yard
fence,
isn't
an
option.
You'd
rather
see
it
inside
a
garden
structure.
Then
I
would
just
ask
for
your
all's
opinions
that
if
we
made
this
garden
structure,
look
essentially
like
the
garden
structure
to
the
left,
and
we
would.
G
A
G
H
A
F
The
next
application
that
we
have
before
us
today
is
a
request
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
allow
the
construction
of
a
new
3985
square
foot
two-story
mixed
use,
building
identified
as
Democrat,
which
will
be
in
the
ma
daisies
porch
development
planned
area
on
the
per
the
car
I'm.
Sorry,
on
the
parcel
that
is
currently
addressed
as
1255
May,
River
Road
in
the
old
town,
Bluffton
historic
district,
and
it
is
Zone
neighborhood
General
HD
before
we
get
too
far
into
this.
F
This
is
the
full
site
that
you're
looking
at
here
I
have
highlighted
in
yellows
and
parcel
that
we
are
discussing
with
this
request.
So
this
is
the
market,
which
is
the
structure
that
is
placed
towards
the
I
guess
the
rear
of
the
site,
May
River
Road,
runs
along
the
bottom
of
your
screen
and
then
the
rest
of
the
development
that
you
currently
recognize.
As
this
larger
development
that
is
not
being
touched
as
part
of
any
of
these
applications
is
to
the
left
of
the
screen
here
to
the
right
of
the
screen.
F
There's
a
drainage,
ditch
that
runs
along
the
right
side
of
this
and
then
the
Watershed
or
Jenny
Kitty
municipal
building,
which
is
the
Watershed
building
with
the
little
hairpin
awnings.
So
you've
got
your
bearings
about
you.
I've
I've
highlighted
it
in
yellow
I've
done
a
lot
of
highlighting
through
here,
because
it
was
easier
with
these
plans,
which
are
very
detailed.
Thank
you
for
the
detail
on
those,
but
just
so
that
it's
easier
to
see
some
of
those.
So
here
is
the
first
floor
plan.
F
As
you
can
see,
there
are
stalls
in
here
to
act
as
a
market,
and
there
is
a
path
that
runs
through
the
structure
there.
This
is
the
second
floor
which
has
three
dwelling
units
on
it
or
in
it
I,
guess
and
then
the
roof
plan.
You
can
see
this
better
as
you
look
at
the
elevations.
This
is
the
front
elevation
which
actually
faces
internal
to
the
development,
so
it
faces
towards
the
the
structures
that
are
not
being
touched
on
the
site
or
the
left
hand
side
if
you're
standing
on
May
River
Road.
F
This
is
the
left
elevation
which
faces
towards
the
I'm
getting
backwards,
the
back
of
the
property,
the
full
property
and
the
right
elevation
which
faces
towards
May.
River
Road,
however,
will
be
located
behind
another
structure.
So
you
will
not
see
this
directly
from
May
River
Road.
It
is
set
back
pretty
far
off
the
street,
but
this
is
what
that
front,
or
the
right
but
front
of
the
full
lot
looks
like
you
can
see
it's
a
brick
structure.
F
It
has
this
very
large
Dormer
that
is
located
in
the
Second
Story,
to
give
it
a
little
more
space
up
there,
that's
on
both
sides
of
it,
and
then
this
is
an
arch
that
is
set
offset
from
the
brick
plane
about
one
brick
deep.
So
it
does
have
an
offset
there
for
the
material
change
they
have
added
Windows,
since
the
original
plan
came
through,
it
conceptual
to
make
sure
that
they
met
their
requirement
for
the
opacity
standards
on
the
front
elevation
there
here
are
some
perspectives
of
the
building.
F
We
hope
to
never
have
to
see
it
like
this,
because
that
means
something
bad
has
happened,
and
then
here
are
the
sections
and
details
for
it.
So
you've
got
the
section
through
the
long
ways
and
then,
through
the
shirt,
the
details,
so
you've
got
your
stairs
and
Foundation
Eve
I'm
flipping
through
these
quickly
I
did
reference
a
few
of
them
in
your
staff
report.
If
we
need
to
go
back
and
reference
them,
we
can.
F
This
is
the
hardscaping
plan
which
shows
the
sidewalk,
and
then
it
shows
the
two
service
yards.
The
reason
I
have
this
included
on
this.
One
is
because
there's
a
comment
on
those
the
brick
walls
there
and
then
this
is
the
landscape
plan.
It
is
a
little
bit
small,
but
it
is
hopefully
visible.
I
can
try
and
make
it
bigger
if
we
need
to,
and
then
this
is
the
details
for
the
fence
type,
one,
which
is
the
living
fence
with
the
top
rail
type
two,
which
is
the
brick
pierced
wall.
F
F
This
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
so
those
eight
review
criteria
are
still
found
in
section
318-3
of
our
unified
development
ordinance.
You
all
have
the
authority
to
approve
the
application,
as
submitted
by
the
applicant
approve.
The
application
was
submitted
at
with
conditions
or
deny
the
application,
as
submitted
by
the
applicant
I,
am
happy
to
go
back
to
any
one
of
those
slides
so
that
you
can
see
it
more
closely.
Town
staff
has
made
a
recommendation
I
believe
we
have
public
comment
on
it.
F
The
applicant
is
here
to
answer
any
questions
and
then
the
final
thing
that
I'm
going
to
draw
your
attention
to
is
for
the
record.
There
are
there's
a
letter
of
comment
response
that
was
provided
by
Amanda
and
Pierce
Scott
architects
to
address
some
of
the
items
in
this
I
have
provided
a
copy
to
you
all.
This
is
a
copy
of
it
on
the
screen.
F
F
Some
of
those
conditions
that
were
placed
on
there
are
will
complies
so
she
had
the
applicant
and
team
but
I'm,
keeping
she
and
and
her
because
it's
Amanda
that
wrote
me
this
letter,
so
the
ones
that
are
in
Blue
on
your
screen
are
the
ones
that
they
have
noted
and
have
no
issue
addressing
to
meet
the
standard
there.
The
first
one.
F
Sir,
however,
I
ask
that
your
motion
include
them
as
written
in
your
screen,
so
it
would
be
if,
if
the
motion
is
to
approve
our
approval
conditions,
if
you
approve
with
conditions
I
ask
that
you
include
per
staff.
One
two
three,
however,
you'd
go
through,
that
the
three
in
blue
are
the
first
three
that
choose
complied
that
way.
F
We
know
that
they'll
update
the
plans
because,
while
they
have
on
paper
in
this
letter,
said
that
they
will
comply
with
those
standards,
the
development
plan,
which
is
the
first
one
while
they
say
that
they've
resubmitted
it-
it
has
not
technically
been
reviewed
and
approved.
Yet
so
it
the
it
has
been
submitted
and
a
resubmitle
has
been
received,
but
we
still
need
before
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
is
issued,
that
to
be
a
condition
of
the
approval.
I
H
Ahead
a
bit
and
there's
obviously
public
common
applicant
discussion,
but
say
for
the
sake
of
kind
of
going
through
the
process,
you
want
to
just
say,
approvement
conditions
with
all
the
staff
conditions
that
would
listen
to
the
report.
You
would
just
do
a
motion
to
improve
with
conditions,
as
listed
in
the
staff
report.
I
I
believe,
as
Mrs
Peterson
was
was
saying.
The
conditions
that
are
in
blue
are
being
highlighted
in
blue,
primarily
to
limit
discussion
for
y'all.
That's
when
I
was
in
yeah.
I
M
H
F
So
the
first
item
is
that
the
development
plan
needs
to
be
approved
prior
to
the
issues
so
to
certificate
of
appropriateness.
They
did
have
the
final
application
go
before
the
DRC.
They
have
resubmitted
that
resubmittal
has
not
yet
been
reviewed,
and
so
the
final
development
plan
has
not
been
approved.
F
It
will
likely
either
be
approved
or
additional
comments
provided
to
it
at
this
time.
It's
not
yet
there.
The
second
one
is
the
subdivision.
The
subdivision
cannot
be
approved
until
the
certificate
or
I'm
sorry
until
the
development
plan
is
approved,
because
the
subdivision
is
based
on
the
development
plan.
So
this
is
just
an
order
of
operation
thing.
It
will
need
to
be
reviewed,
approved
and
recorded
prior
to
issuance
of
the
certificate
of
properties,
because
until
the
subdivision
is
recorded,
there
is
no
lot
for
this
to
be
constructed
on.
F
So,
therefore,
it
would
exceed
the
density
for
the
historic
district,
but
that
is,
it
should
be
a
non-issue.
It
should
be
an
administrative
thing.
As
long
as
the
development
plan
is
is
reviewed
and
approved.
They
have
actually
submitted
the
subdivision,
but
it
can't
be
approved
yet
the
next
one
is,
the
demolition
of
the
structures
will
need
to
be
completed
prior
to
the
issues
of
certificate
of
Partners.
Again,
that's
because
there
are
structures,
so
they
can't
put
another
one
until
that
one's
gone.
F
You
talking
so
this
elevation
right
here.
These
windows
could
accept
shutters.
They
have
utilized
Shutters
on
the
first
floor
for
all
of
these
windows,
but
they
did
not
include
them
on
the
Second
Story,
which
is
here
on
the
right
elevation,
which
is
this
one
here.
This
is
a
review
from
the
rear.
These
are
double
windows
which
you
could
not
accept
them,
so
the
places
where
they
could
be
accepted
are
just
these
windows
here
on
the
second
story
of
the
left,
elevation
foreign.
F
F
F
The
sixth
item
is
additional
information
on
the
railings.
It
was
called
out
as
metal,
but
it
doesn't
specify
the
railing
materials
are
permitted
to
be
rot
or
cast
iron.
If
they
are
going
to
be
metal,
they
are
proposing
the
use
of
a
powder
coated
aluminum
railing
so
that
it's
something
that
they
have
requested
a
deviation
from
and
the
HPC
would
need
to
consider
that
as
part
of
their
request.
F
I
F
F
They
have
noted
that
they
will
comply
with
that
and
make
it
a
metal
door.
The
next
item
is
that
rolling
doors
are
not
a
permitted
configuration
and
would
need
to
be
revised
to
a
permitted
operation.
So
in
the
historic
district,
the
permitted
door
materials
are
French
and
casement.
So
a
rolling
door
is
not
one
of
those
types.
They
are
requesting
a
deviation
from
that
standard.
They
did
provide.
F
F
F
A
F
F
K
N
Just
sorry,
I'm
Amanda
with
Pierce
got
architect.
Thank
you.
I
was
going
to
clarify
on
the
fence.
Our
fence
on
our
architectural
drawings
is
at
six
one
and
a
half
inches
because
of
the
brick
coursing
we
didn't
want
to
have
to
cut
a
brick
just
for
an
inch
and
a
half.
So
that's
based
on
brick,
coursing
the
Landscape
Architects
we're
supposed
to
take
our
details
and
they
did
not
so
that
their
drawings
are
incorrect
and
they
need
to
be
corrected
to
match
ours.
N
N
F
F
F
F
B
B
N
A
N
N
That's
the
only
way,
you're
going
to
be
able
to
do
those
the
railings
for
powder
coated,
aluminum,
there's
other
examples
in
Old
Town
that
you
guys
have
approved
before
there's
a
bunch
of
different
handrails
all
over
that
are
not
wrought
iron,
there's
examples
in
stock
farm.
So,
if
you're
looking
at
any
of
those
buildings,
so.
F
C
F
Have
the
open
bases
so
they're
not
just
hollow
tubes,
and
they
are
substantial
in
weight
so
that
they're,
not
the
kind
that
you
essentially
can
take
a
quarter
and
if
you
hit
it
with
a
quarter
dense,
so
they've
been
the
substantial
aluminum
that
have
no
pinched
crimped
tops
and
no
open
faces.
So
they
are
capped
at
the
base.
N
N
The
door
we
set
for
number
seven
will
change
that
to
metal
only
number
eight,
the
doors,
those
were
only
going
to
be
shut
when
the
place
is
closed
for
security
reasons
at
night
time,
but
other
than
that.
It's
an
Open
Air
Market
like
in
Charleston
how
they
have
their
Market
Charleston.
They
have
like
plastic
or
canvas
type
materials
instead,
so
we
wanted
something
a
little
bit
more
substantial
than
canvas
and
plastic,
something
opaque,
so
they're
just
asking
for
a
deviation,
as
there
are
other
rolling
doors.
Obviously-
and
we
do
have
other.
A
N
N
We're
hoping
you
know
that
this
one
over
to
the
community
and
bringing
in
the
Gullah
culture,
because
this
is
a
Gullah
market,
so
that
they
can
bring
their
Wares
and
goods
and
sell
to
the
community
and
bring
the
history
back
and
then
above
it
will
be
Workforce
housing.
So
for
that's
something
that
we're
lacking,
that
we
greatly
need,
and
so
the
owner
like
to
operate,
that.
A
L
Okay,
good
evening,
everyone,
hello,
hi,
good,
to
see
you
Maryville.
My
name
is
Sharon
Brown
I'm
at
163,
Buck,
Island,
Road
and
just
wanted
to
come
and
speak
about
this
awesome
opportunity
that
we
have
here
with
this
building
here,
that's
called:
do
you
make
it
and
Ma
Daisy's
portrait
development?
We
really
don't
have
much
culture
left
here
in
Bluffton
and
where
this
is
positioned.
L
This
would
be
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
have
this
for
our
community
to
preserve
the
African-American
culture
and
I
just
want
to
read
something
mayor
Soka
put
in
the
Island
packet,
and
it
says
that
Town
leaders
and
staff
members
want
to
know
more
about
the
lead
history
of
Bluffton
African-American
Community.
What
better
way
to
have
that
than
to
have
the
structure
right
there
in
the
heart
of
Bluffton,
where
we
have
so
many
other
buildings?
That's
watering
down
black
people
in
our
community.
L
They
were
once
here
too,
and
people
need
to
know
that
she
says
we
believe
that
the
gulligichi
culture
and
its
historic
resources
are
under
represented.
What
an
opportunity
to
have
them
represented
am
I
right,
so
I
would
love
for
you
guys
to
consider
approving
this,
regardless
of
whatever
they
have
to
do
to
make
it
conform
within
the
town.
But
what
better
way
to
show
that
the
town
of
Bluffton
is
supporting
African
Americans?
Who
will
once
here
saturated
in
the
heart
of
Bluffton
and
this
community?
L
K
I
K
F
A
lot
this
spot
does
have
more
removed
than
some
of
the
other
ones.
There
are
a
bunch
and
this
again
this
is
an
application.
That
is
a
standalone
application.
Of
course.
However,
this
one
has
mostly
this
is
a
water
Oak,
Water
Oak.
They
are
preserving
this
Laurel
right
here
that
is
21
inches
nine
inch
cherry
nine
inch,
gum,
10
inch,
Laurel
a
25
inch,
Pine
I,
believe
I.
Think
it's
more
visible
in
your.
K
J
F
They
are
being
the
landscape
plan
has
been
reviewed,
more
detailed
with
the
development
plan,
because
the
development
plan
is
still
being
reviewed,
and
so
it's
something
that
they
are
taking
into
consideration
and
ensuring
that
the
mitigation
requirements
are
being
met.
So
they
need
to
ensure
the
the
street
trees
will
be
there.
The
Foundation
plantings,
which
you
can
see
are
proposed
here.
F
If
there
is
comment
on
the
landscape
plan,
you
all
do
have
the
ability
to
comment
on
that
and
provide
feedback
on
it,
but
it
is
being
reviewed
closely
by
the
development
Review
Committee
not
to
deter
you
from
Comedy
County,
if
that
makes
sense,
but
but
it
is
having
a
second
look
at
it
because
they
are
still
making
some
tweaks
to
the
site
plan,
and
so
we
didn't
want
to
have
to
do
that.
Work
in
in
duplicate
for
something
that
may
be
modified.
N
N
B
H
D
A
A
I
N
Because
that's
a
hole,
there's
not
a
door,
it's
just
an
open
air
Mark,
just
like
Charleston.
You
know
the
market
there
just
like
that,
so
something
just
to
be
able
to
close
it
off
when
it's
closed
to
secure
it
not
every
day
will
be
open
all
the
time
like
that.
But
you
know
if
there's
a
hurricane
coming,
we
want
to
be
able
to
close
it.
A
F
A
F
F
I'm,
sorry,
if,
if
you
are
considering
approval
or
approval
with
conditions
and
find
these
conditions
to
be
valid,
then
please
ensure
that
they
are
included
in
the
motion,
even
though
they
have
stated
that
they
will
comply
with
them.
We
have
not
yet
formally
received
materials
that
support
that
we
will
and
I
have
no
doubt
of
that,
but
just
so
that
it
is
something
that
we
get
the
right
paperwork
in
order
and.
A
D
I
mean
I
I
personally,
I
mean
I,
don't
think
it's
worth,
I
mean
I'll
say
this
about
fences
is
generally
even
when
you're
building
a
fence,
even
if
you're
holding
a
fence
to
six
feet
or
four
feet.
There
are
there's
always
elevation
changes
and
one
of
the
most
important
things
is
to
maintain
a
level
fence,
especially
with
a
brick
fence.
So
even
if
you
were
to
set
and
I
you
know
to
do
a
detail
at
six
feet,
there's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
deviation.
The
main
thing
is
I.
D
Think
I
mean
that
meets
the
intent
of
the
of
a
six
foot
fence
and
I
I
mean
I.
Personally
think
it
would
be
a
lot
to
have
the
Mason
cut
each
brick,
so
I
mean
I,
think
that's
appropriate
it.
It
will
be.
You
know
those
I
guess,
roughly
10
inches
it'll
be
a
big
difference
from
what
we
saw
in
the
packet,
so
I
think
that's
appropriate.
Personally.
F
A
I
N
D
Right
I
would
I'll
give
it
a
go.
Thank
you.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
application
with
the
following
conditions
to
just
following
my
staff
recommendations.
One
through
three
for
number
four
board
finds
that
the
shutters
it's
appropriate
to
not
have
Shutters
on
the
second
floor
as
it's
a
different
use
and
those
shutters
are
functioning
and
covering
the
doors
and
for.
D
D
Yeah
for
the
for
the
column
and
for
the
handrail,
so
five
and
six
that
powder
coated
steel
is
appropriate
and
number
seven
that
the
Apple
can't
revise
the
door
to
be
metal
as
they've
submitted
and
number
eight
that
roll
rolling
doors
are
appropriate
for
this
semi-outdoor
location
for
security
on
the
sides
and
for
nine
that
the
fence
type
won.
The
Pierce
brick
fence
is
allowed
to
slightly
deviate
from
the
maximum
permitted
Heights
in
order
to
utilize
traditional
brick
materials
in
an
economical
way
and
10
per
staff.
H
You
don't
mind
Mr
chairman,
just
so
I
can
kind
of
recite
that
so
everybody's
on
the
same
page,
because
there
was
a
little
bit
of
back
and
forth
there.
Oh
thank
you
and
it
was
a
a
large
motion.
So
this
is
a
motion
to
agree
with
conditions
with
the
conditions
such
as
listed
in
the
staff
reporters
conditions,
one
through
three
Incorporated
in
that
motion.
H
That's
condition.
Number
four,
there's
a
notion
that
the
shutter
deviation,
the
acceptable
and
as
appropriate,
due
to
the
differing
uses
between
the
first
floor
and
the
second
floor,
with
condition.
Five
that
the
metal
column
with
brick
base
painted
structural
steel
would
be
a
would
be
an
appropriate
deviation
from
the
uda's
requirements
as
condition
number
six
powder
coated.
Aluminum
railings
are
a
acceptable
deviation
day.
The
the
substantial
weight
and
no
open
faces,
I
believe
was
the
what's
the
requirement
and
then
with
seven
the
condition.
H
Number
seven
items
perfect
deviation
to
allow
the
or
excuse
me
the
door
to
be
metal.
That
is
a
condition
that
was
accepted
by
the
applicant
condition.
Number
eight
rolling
doors
acceptable
due
to
security
concerns
and
condition
number
nine
that
the
the
brick
fence
DBA
should
be
acceptable
to
for
utilizing
traditional
building
techniques
and
incorporation
of
condition,
number
10.
F
F
Of
square
foot
commercial
garden
structure,
which
will
be
within
the
ma,
Daisy
Sports
Development,
it
is
on
the
parcel
it's
currently
12th
Century
Road
in
the
Old
Town
Bluff
historic
district
in
his
own
neighborhood
General
HD.
This
is
the
parcel
that
we
are
discussing
now.
So
this
is
the
primary
structure
here,
with
the
accessory
structure
behind
it.
That
garden
structure
that
we
mentioned
is
located
nestled
between
the
two.
So
it
is
right
here
where
my
mouse
is
kind
of
wiggling.
F
F
Here
are
the
first
floor
plans,
so
you
can
see
that
this
is
the
side
that
faces
May,
River
Road
towards
the
front.
Here
it
has
a
wraparound
porch
that
tucks
around
the
front
and
left
side
there
is
a
rear
porch
as
well.
This
is
the
second
floor.
This
is
open
to
below
here
and
then
this
half
of
it
here
has
additional
seating,
as
well
as
an
office
and
storage
space
foreign.
F
This
is
the
roof
plan
and
then
the
front
elevation.
So
this
will
front
May
River
Road.
As
you
can
see,
there
are
steps
that
lead
up
as
well
as
steps
on
the
side.
There
is
a
ramp
for
accessibility
that
tucks
up
along
the
front
elevation
here.
It
is
very
low
profile,
but
does
allow
for
access
to
that.
F
This
is
the
rear
elevation.
So
if
you're
standing
in
the
parking
area
or
actually,
if
you're,
standing
near
that
garden
structure,
this
is
the
side
that
you
will
see.
So
this
is
the
side
porch,
as
well
as
that
rear
porch,
and
there
are
stairs
on
the
side,
and
then
this
is
the
left
elevation.
So
if
you're
standing
in
the
middle
of
the
development
or
towards
the
structure
we
reviewed
just
a
moment
ago,
this
is
the
side
that
you're
going
to
see
it
has
the
full
length
Port
here,
as
well
as
the
wrap
for
the
front.
F
This
has
the
service
yard
for
all
of
those
mechanical
needs
that
are
going
to
be
incorporated
within
this,
the
carriage
house,
which
is
a
smaller
structure.
This
is
the
first
floor
here
and
the
Second
Story.
It
does
have
two
dormers
on
either
side.
I
included
the
roof
here
as
well,
and
you
can
see
the
roof
plan
for
that
Carriage,
House,
I'm,
sorry,
garden
structure
that
is
located
between
the
two
structures
on
the
top
right
here,
so
I
am
going
very
fast.
F
F
A
F
F
F
So
this
is
the
the
left
side
of
that
site.
As
you
can
see,
that's
that
Porsche
that
I
was
discussing
on
the
carriage
house.
This
is
the
wrap
porch
that
goes
to
the
front,
here's
the
front
elevation
and
then
you
can
see
the
small
accessory
structure,
garden
structure
here,
Carriage
House
and
the
right
side
of
the
structure
which
faces
the
Watershed
building,
and
then
this
is
from
the
rear
of
the
site.
F
So
if
you
were
in
the
parking
area
or
dropping
something
in
the
dumpster,
that's
what
you
would
be
walking
up
towards
is
the
rear
of
the
structure.
There.
Here
are
some
perspectives,
so
you
can
see
the
market
here.
There
is
your
accessory
structure
with
the
building.
We
are
currently
the
two
buildings
we
are
currently
reviewing
and
the
garden
structure,
more
perspectives
for
you
again.
You
can
still
see
the
market
in
the
back
there,
so
they
did
provide
that
and
then
this
is
the
deer
tongue
Warehouse
here.
F
F
Here
are
the
details
again
flipping
through
those
quickly
for
you,
but
we
can
go
back
if
you
need
any
of
them
more
closely.
Here
are
the
doors,
as
well
as
the
windows
and
the
landscape
plan
for
this
site,
because
this
is
a
long
site,
it
is
split
in
half.
So
this
is
the
section
that
has
the
primary
structure.
F
This
is
Mary
the
area
where
I
and
everyone
else,
but
Mary
specifically
wear
those
trees.
I
was
saying
there
are
a
bunch
that
are
maintained
on
the
site,
but
that
one
lot
has
the
most
probably
of
the
trees
that
are
being
removed
is
the
portion
that
is
incorporated
with
Democrat,
not
the
bakery
here.
So.
K
F
F
F
The
landscape
plan
is
one
package
and
I
split
it
out
between
each
of
the
applications.
Do
it,
but
it's
the
same
detail
yeah.
So
the
problem
or
the
the
challenge
is
the
same
on
all
three
for
the
detail.
This
one
does
not
have
any
pierced
brick
wall,
this
one
does
have
fence
type
A,
and
this
one
is
the
site
that
has
the
dumpster
enclosure,
so
the
dumpster
enclosure
is
listed
here
too.
F
This
may
be
a
surprise
to
you,
but
there
are
eight
review
criteria
that
are
found
in
section
3183
of
our
unified
development
ordinance
and
as
the
HTC
are
authorized
to
approve.
The
application
is
submitted
by
the
applicant,
approve
the
application
with
conditions
or
deny
the
application
submitted
by
the
applicant.
F
So
the
the
staff
has
found
the
conditions
that
will
make
this
in
compliance
with
those
conditions
as
follows.
Again
this
is
item
number
three
on
there
and
so
I've
labeled
it
in
the
top
corner
of
the
same
letter
that
you
received,
but
it
got
different
information
on
it
this
time,
so
I
again
put
those
in
blue
the
first
one.
Is
the
development
plan
same
as
the
last
one?
So
is
the
subdivision
which
is
item
two?
F
The
third
one
is
that
the
structures
need
to
be
removed
before
you
can
propose
anything
else
on
the
site.
So
those
three
are
the
exact
same
as
the
ones
before
item
number
four.
Is
that
the
porch
steps
for
the
carriage
house
and
the
primary
structure
must
be
revised
to
be
no
closer
than
three
feet
to
the
side
property
line
or
the
subdivision
revised
to
meet
the
standard?
F
F
So
the
property
line
is
this
Dash,
it's
long
short
short,
long,
short
short
that
runs
right
here
and
it
carries
on
so
it
carries
through
this.
The
porch
steps
for
the
primary
structure
are
right
here
and
right
here,
and
then
the
carriage
house
has
or
accessory
structure,
has
steps
that
are
right
here.
F
I
actually
circled
them,
because
I
was
looking
ahead
in
red
right
here
on
screen,
so
those
are
the
three
spaces
that
that
is
if
they
move
this
property
line
over
just
enough
to
be
able
to
have
those
steps
meet
the
requirement
but
still
maintain
the
rear
step
back
here.
So
that's
being
addressed
through
the
subdivision
is
what
their
letters
are
important
like
a
foot
and
a
half,
and
so
the
property
line.
F
F
So
that
is
one
through
four
number.
Five
is
that
the
keratel
square
footage
must
be
updated
to
reflect
those
spaces
that
have
a
possible
head
height
of
five
feet
or
more
so
this
they
requested
a
little
information
on
that,
and
so
this
space
here,
while
it
is
unheated
space,
it
is
in
closed
space.
The
way
our
ordinance
reads
is
that
the
spaces
that
have
a
possible
head
height
of
between
with
a
tiny
wall
of
no
less
than
three
feet
in
a
possible
Headroom
of
five
feet
or
less
gets
incorporated
into
that
square
footage.
F
The
reason
behind
that
definition
is
because
there
are
several
structures
that
had
been
proposed
that
had
additional
attic
space
that
had
head
Heights
of
about
eight
feet
or
sometimes
even
10
feet.
So
the
mass
of
the
structure
still
appeared
to
be
a
full
structure,
but
then
they
were
enclosing
those
spaces
and
saying
well,
they're
not
conditioned,
so
they
don't
count
towards
the
square
footage.
F
So
that's
where
that
originally
that
didn't
matter
what
they
were
using
it
for
so
it
is
here
oops
and
so
the
head
height
or
the
I'm.
Sorry,
the
plate
height
here
is
four
feet,
which
means
there
is
some
of
the
space
here,
because
this
is
at
nine
feet
and
change
I'm,
calling
it
change,
because
I
can't
quite
read
that
number
on
the
screen
right
here.
So
some
of
this
area
here
needs
to
be
incorporated
in
that
square
footage
calculation,
but.
N
No
I
was
asking
for
clarification,
I
think,
because
the
carriage
house
is
already
a
one
and
a
half
story
structure,
not
even
I
mean
the
knee
walls
are
more
than
four
feet
or
something
so
to
go
any
lower
to
make
that
work.
You
wouldn't
be
able
to
function
and
get
any
storage
up
there.
If
we
had
to
drop
it
all
the
way
down
to
the
floor
level
to
make
a
five
foot.
N
N
F
So
the
challenge
of
the
Bastion
is
the
challenge.
Is
that
the
space
that
has
a
possible
Headroom
of
five
feet
or
more
is
what
counts
towards
the
square
footage
calculations
for
the
structure?
It's
not
heated
or
unheated,
it's
enclosed
and
unenclosed,
and
the
space
that
counts
towards
that
enclosed
is
anything
that
has
that
possible
head
height
of
five
feet.
N
N
N
B
N
E
F
E
F
L
F
One
front
and
rear
and
one
side
elevation.
So
the
only
question
of
what
the
architecture
will
look
like
on
that
structure
is
the
side
that
has
the
door
staff
needs
those
to
ensure
that
it
is
meeting
the
standards.
However,
if
it
is,
as
it
appears
to
be,
would
feel
comfortable
with
the
gardens
dark
share
coming
back
at
a
staff
level,
if
you
feel
that's
appropriate
because
they
would
near
the
other
two
sides
with.
I
F
N
And
we
discussed
it
because
we
put
it
on
the
market,
but
on
this
one
we
were
asking
for
deviation,
because
three
sides
of
the
building
have
the
porches
which
cover
up
a
line
anyway,
and
the
line
would
have
to
be
yeah
somewhere
in
there.
So
it
would
really
only
be
that
one
side
and
we
didn't
feel
it
was
necessary
because
there's
no
pedestrian
access
over
there.
A
N
It's
usually
to
delineate
floors,
but
in
this
case
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
delineate,
but
even
in
that
instance,
there's
just
it's
so
small
that
right
there.
If
you
had
to
put
one
on
that,
I
think
that
proportion
and
scale
of
the
building
would
look
off
because
of
a
line
going
across
at
such
a
height.
N
A
A
N
F
D
F
That's
okay!
No!
It
doesn't
so
survive
that
it
says
the
exact
line
is
an
expression
line
until
delineate
the
division
between
the
first
story
and
the
Second
Story
according
to
shall
Delaney
the
tops
of
facades
expression
light
shall
either
be
moldings
extended,
a
minimum
of
two
inches
or
jogs
in
the
surface
plane
of
the
building,
while
greater
than
two
inches
cortisol
example
a
lot.
So
it
doesn't.
It's.
A
F
Because
I
don't
want
to
sit
down
and
say
that
many
times
the
next
item
on
there
is
that
the
columns
facing
on
the
Carriage
House
must
be
revised.
So
there's
space
no
further
apart
than
they
are
tall.
They've
said
that
they
will
comply
with
that.
The
next
one
is
that
the
fiberglass
column
material
must
be
revised
to
a
permitted
material.
The
column
material
is
what
is
highlighted
on.
F
F
F
F
F
F
It'll
be
changed
to
metal.
The
next
item
is
that
window
f
is
proposed
as
a
sliding
window,
which
is
not
a
permitted
operation
for
a
window.
There
are
several
versions
that
are
permitted.
That
has
just
got
one
of
them
and
then
item
G
is
or
item
13.
We
can
go
back
to
it,
but
window
and
door
on
the
same
page.
So
I'm
going
to
read
both
of
those
real
quick
genius
proposes
an
overhead
door
which
must
be
revised
to
a
permitted
configuration
as
well.
So
this
is
the
sliding
window.
It
is.
N
A
F
F
F
F
N
F
F
L
F
B
B
H
D
Yeah
I
I
think
we're
good
I
mean
I,
do
have
a
few
questions
and
I
feel
like
this.
One
might
be
the
one
to
ask
better
site,
related
I,
don't
think
I
just
wanted.
There
was
two
things
or
two
things
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
The
first
one
was
just
this
was
more,
have
you
considered
it
or
the
I
was
looking.
D
All
of
the
ramps
and
the
stairs
are
really
looking
out
like
a
sore
thumb.
Have
you
all
considered,
possibly
and
I,
don't
know
how
this
would
look
but
like
in
closing
those
in
the
same
wood
like
putting
the
wood
structure
like
putting
those
inside
the
wood
structure.
Like
you
see
a
lot
of
stairs
like
so
a
lot
of
times
on,
for
instance,
going
upstairs
you'll
put
the
handrails
like
inside
of
it,
so
that
it's
supposed.
F
D
D
No
there's
something
different.
No,
so
the
handrails
would
stay
exactly
the
same.
I'm
just
saying
like
those
inside
handrails
that
you're
gripping
for
Ada
would
stay
exactly
the
same
I'm
just
asking.
If
you've,
given
any
consideration
to
putting
your
wood
rails
in
front
of
those
so
that
they
don't
stick
out
as
much
like
visually.
D
D
N
Match,
but
what
we
want
that
David
just
disappear.
We
don't
want
to
draw
attention
to
it,
because
if
you
start
adding
things
to
it,
it's
going
to
be
more
opaque
if
you're,
not
whatever
anyway
you're,
just
it
takes
away
from
it,
because
this
is
just
meant
to
visually
disappear
and
by
code
we
have
to
have
certain
handrails
and
extensions.
So.
N
D
H
What
I've
gathered
is
it
sounds
like
it's
going
to
be
a
motion
to
approve
of
conditions
with
the
following
conditions:
doctor
from
staff
report
conditions,
one
two,
three,
four,
six,
eight
nine
eleven
fourteen
fifteen,
sixteen
and
Seventeen
and
with
the
following
findings
as
to
these
particular
conditions,
so
condition.
Number
five
is
that
the
ceiling
item
in
the
second
floor
be
adjusted
to
ensure
that
the
total
square
footage
remains
under
1200
square
feet
for
the
carriage
house
condition
number
seven
as
a
state
of
the
staff
report.
O
Good
evening,
so
this
is
request
from
the
applicant
pure
Scott
Architects,
when
we
have
the
owner
Billy
borderston,
to
consider
the
following
application.
This
is
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
allow
the
relocation
and
reconstruction
of
the
1186
square
foot
contributing
resource
known
as
the
Reconstruction
of
the
existing
378
square
foot,
front
porch,
and
the
construction
of
a
rear
edition
of
approximately
348
square
feet
to
the
structure
located
at
you
guessed
it
1255
near
river
road
in
the
old
town,
Bluffton
historic
district
memory.
This
is
the
zoning
and
location
maps.
O
You
saw
this
project
and
approved
the
Kofa
back
in
February
to
relocate
what
was
identified
as
structure
a
in
Blue
from
the
right
side
of
the
diagram
to
the
left
side
of
the
diagram,
also
to
refresh
your
memory,
some
historic
photographs.
This
is
the
deer
tongue
Warehouse
in
its
previous
location,
on
Lawrence,
Street,
1975.
O
O
We
only
have
a
few
review
relevant
review
criteria
under
three
eighteen,
three,
a
to
be
consistent
with
the
secretary
of
interior
standards
for
rehabilitation,
States
in
part,
the
historic
character.
The
property
shall
be
retained
and
preserved.
The
removal
of
historic
materials
shall
be
avoided.
We're
asking
that
all
historic
materials
will
need
to
be
evaluated
and
repaired
or
replaced
with
like
in-kind
as
needed.
Any
historic
materials
which
will
require
replacement
will
need
to
be
identified
in
building
permanent
drawings
for
compliance.
This
is
similar
to
what
you
did
last
time
at
3
Wharf
Street.
O
Yes,
the
application
also
meet
Article
5
design
standards.
According
to
those
sections,
additional
information
must
be
provided
to
ensure
ensure
railings
and
battle.
Streets
are
permitted
materials.
Additional
information
must
be
provided
short
door,
material
for
storage
area
and
rear
entrances
or
permitted
materials.
Tens
Heights
must
be
reduced
to
a
maximum
permitted
height
and
additional
information
must
be
provided
to
ensure
the
soffit
is.
O
Also,
you
will
need
to
consider
the
development
plan.
The
subdivision
for
the
site
must
be
approved
and
recorded
prior
to
the
issues
of
this
certificate
appropriateness
and
for
the
application
material.
Any
purposes
proposed
signage
will
require
a
separate
site
feature
HD
application
staff
is
making
the
following
recommendations
to
approve
the
application
with
the
following
conditions
and,
as
you
see
in
your
handout
number
four,
since
the
staff
report
went
out,
we
did
get
comments
back
from
the
applicant.
Those
have
indicated
in
red.
O
O
So
any
materials
which
require
replacement
will
be
identified
into
building
permit
drawings.
Applicants
said
they
will
comply
with
that
additional
information
provided
for
the
materials
or
railings
and
balance
rates,
rear
doors
and
soffits.
The
railings
like
before
we
are
proposed
to
be
a
power
coded
aluminum.
This
is
not
a
permitted
material,
so
you'll
have
to
specify
that
in
a
motion
show
you,
if
you
so
choose
rear
doors
will
be
wood,
soffit
will
be
tongue
and
groove
primes
Southern,
yellow
pine
painted
fence
Heights
reduce
the
maximum
permitted
height.
O
A
B
A
O
H
Yeah,
yes,
sir
Mr,
chairman
of
the
way
yes
and
seeing
this
one
is
a
motion
to
approve
with
conditions
adopting
conditions,
one
three,
four
one:
four,
five,
six,
seven,
eight
and
nine,
as
stated
in
the
staff
report
and
then
as
to
condition
number
three,
which
is
about
the
powder
coated,
aluminum
railings,
we'll
use
that
same
language
as
before
and
then
just
reject
condition.
Number
two,
because
both
the
staff
and
the
applicant
have
found
that
that
RAM
does
not
need
to
be
relocated.
So
you
don't
even
have
to
mention
that.
N
A
B
H
P
We
also
believe
in
the
preservation
and
the
rehabilitation
of
historic
structures,
and
while
we
aim
to
maintain
the
Aesthetics
of
the
exterior,
which
we
are
absolutely
in
love
with,
we
are
considerate
of
the
safety
of
those
who
are
going
to
occupy
the
building
with
our
new
use
as
buffton's.
First
in
the
areas,
only
historic,
Gullah
culture,
Heritage
Center,
which
will
be
a
place
to
tell
the
history,
often
of
Forgotten
stories
stories
that
have
never
been
heard
before
of
those
who
once
thrived
and
existed
in
this
town
and
whose
story
certainly
deserve
to
be
heard.
P
And
so,
instead
of
allowing
the
building
to
remain
as
is
and
become
dilapidated,
we
would
rather
see
the
building
be
restored
in
a
way
that
will
ensure
it
will
be
around
not
only
during
this
project
but
for
years
to
come.
And
so
we
asked
what
that
consideration,
that
you
look
at
that
here
tonight
that
we
are
looking
to
be
in
accordance
to
the
Udo,
as
well
as
with
the
Secretary
of
State.
Guidelines
recommends
and
we're
not
looking
to
deviate
or
do
anything
obtrusive
from
that
nature.
Q
Q
You
all
approved
a
resolution
authorizing
the
moving
of
this
building,
the
relocation
of
it
and,
it's
specifically
you'll-
add
the
demolition
of
the
non-historic
northern
portion
of
the
building
and
said
that
as
a
contributing
structure
and
that
the
relocation
of
the
remaining
historic
structure,
known
as
the
airtime
building
with
certain
conditions,
nothing
was
said
about
demolishing
the
building.
Nothing
was
said
about
reconstructing
the
building.
Therefore,
I
believe
this
motion
is
mutant
and
out
of
order
you
have.
Q
Q
C
Q
Q
Q
There
are
certain
criteria
set
forth
by
the
Secretary
of
the
Interior
with
regards
to
demolition
of
contributing
structures.
Have
you
all
even
discussed
those
criteria
with
regard
to
this
project?
No,
have
you
looked
at
any
of
the
the
any
of
the
attributes
of
the
old
building
and
compare
it
to
the
new
building?
Has
there
been
any
showing
that
this
building
is
in
need
of
some
kind
of
reconstruction?
Q
There
have
been
three
demolition
permits
issued
by
the
town
of
lustin,
thus
far
in
history.
Maybe
four
of
at
least
three
of
those
I've
been
involved,
I'd
like
to
continue
if
I
may,
because
the
three
the
three
have
them
have
all
shown:
serious
construction
defects.
Nothing
has
been
said
about
that
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
With
regard
to
this
billing
and
I
promise
you
that
that
not
none
of
us
include
myself
who
moved
this
building
who
rehabilitated
the
building
and
who
received
an
award
by
the
town
for
the
rehabilitation
of
this
building.
M
M
M
I
would
assume
that
last
January
relocating
the
structure
intact
was
the
goal
of
the
developer
Mr
Waterston.
So
what
has
changed
on
February,
2nd
the
HPC
approved
the
intact
relocation
of
this
structure
and
I
agree
with
that.
To
use
precedent
in
this
case
does
not
work,
because
the
conditions
are
not
the
same.
Cranston
engineer
has
deemed
the
dear
time
structure
to
be
structurally
sound
and
capable
of
being
moved
intact.
M
Others,
according
to
structural
reports,
have
been
deemed
structurally
unsound
and,
as
I
said,
on
February
2nd
year,
February
2nd
meeting
you
approved
this
intact
relocation,
the
Secretary
of
interior
lists,
four
methods
of
dealing
with
historic
properties
and
I'm
sure
you
know
what
they
are,
but
I'm
still
going
to
repeat
them.
They
are
preserving,
rehabilitating,
restoring
and
reconstructing
reconstructing,
essentially
means
building
a
new
building.
M
M
Furthermore,
Bluffton
is
a
small
town.
We
only
have
82
contributing
structures,
we
don't
have
thousands
like
Savannah
does
we
do
not
need
to
lose
one
of
our
structures.
Some
members
of
the
HBC
I
urge
you
to
realize
the
significance
of
the
deer
tongue
Warehouse
in
the
history
of
Bluffton,
and
you
have
approved
the
intact
relocation
of
this
structure
and
I
hope
you'll
stand
by
that,
because
moving
this
building
preserves
the
history
of
blufftons
and
I
appreciate
your
time
and
the
other
time.
Thank
you.
A
P
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
two
of
the
public
comments
to
one.
It
is
not
a
vision
just
of
Mr
Watterson,
it's
a
shared
vision
of
Bridget
Frazier
and
Billy
Watterson,
but
also
the
Precedence
of
what
we're
doing
is
no
different
than
what's
already
been
set.
The
graves
property,
as
well
as
the
Garvin
Garvin
house
in
Bluffton,
both
have
received
Awards
and
accolades
for
going
through
the
same
process.
It
is
not
demolition
in
the
context
of
the
buildings
are
going
to
be
demolished.
P
It
is
a
very
in-depth
process
of
removing
pieces
of
the
building
intact,
numbering
labeling
and
then
placing
them
back
in
the
same
fashion
as
what
the
building
originally
looked
like,
and
that's
already
been
done.
Also
according
to
the
Secretary
of
interior
standards
and
design,
it
is
not
a
recommendation
to
leave
the
building,
as
stated
intact,
opposed
to
the
way
that
we're
doing
it.
That
designation
only
comes
into
play.
P
If
we
are
request
addressing
federal
funds
to
do
this
particular
project
in
which
we're
not
it
is
being
funded
privately
and
the
their
tongue
building
did
not
lose
its
historic
designation
when
the
current
or
the
previous
owners
attached
a
kitchen
attachment
onto
it.
It's
still
maintained
the
town's
historic
designation
and
the
designation
that
the
building
currently
has
would
not
be
removed
because
of
the
manner
that
we
are
seeking
to
relocate
the
building
and
have
it
reconstructed.
N
N
N
And
I
had
I'm
sorry
that
I'm
not
very
good
at
drawing,
because
I
did
the
panels
as
best
as
I
could
without
being
able
to
measure
each
one.
So
I
was
graphically
trying
to
show
you
how
they're
going
to
be
in
the
same
I
looked
off
the
pictures.
I
went
there
physically,
but
I
I,
don't
know
the
exact
measurements
of
every
single
panel
and
that's
something
when
it
does
get
deconstructed
reconstructs
Savannah
they're
going
to
come.
We
have.
N
N
It's
not
going
to
be
just
you
or
me,
going
out
and
taking
things
off,
it's
the
people
that
know
what
they're
doing
with
historic
materials
and
anything
as
far
as
like
the
metal
panels.
If
there's
a
something,
that's
rusted
or
a
hole
in
something,
we
want
to
use
the
same
materials
that
are
already
from
the
other
buildings
on
site.
N
So
anything
we
can
on
site
is
we
want
to
put
back,
and
so
they
will
help
identify
the
items
like
that
are
salvageable
and
what
can
be
used
as
far
as
the
structural
report
from
Cranston
engineering
that
was
done
over
a
year
ago.
Since
then,
we
have
met
with
the
building
department
with
Richard,
Spruce
and
he's,
given
us
a
list
of
items
that
there's
no
way
we
can
make
code
compliant
as
it
is
now.
N
There
aren't
any
tie
downs
for
Hurricane
Safety,
there's
just
a
lot
of
things
that
in
our
codes
today
it
does
not
meet
life
safety,
and
so
we
would
never
be
able
to
get
a
building
permit
for
for
changing
this
use.
As
far
as
letting
it
be
a
cultural
center,
because
it's
not
safe
with
the
codes
that
we
have
to
adhere
to
for
Life
Safety.
K
N
N
A
B
A
B
K
H
Yes,
this
application
is
I,
guess,
I,
think
it's
a
supplemental
application
to
the
relocation.
So
the
and
I'm
trying
to
recall
the
best
I
can
of
what
the
original
application
was,
but
it
had
to
do
with
the
Demolition
of
some
non-contributing
structures
and
the
relocation
of
the
deer
tongue
building.
So.
H
H
House,
where
we
had
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
Joiner
house
over
on
Bruin
and
obviously
every
application
is
unique,
every
property
is
unique.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
try
to
keep
that
in
mind,
but
there
are
a
bunch
of
different
things
that
we're
looking
for
with
a
you
know
under
the
historic
preservation
guidelines
and
inspiration
was
correct.
H
This
is
because,
as
to
the
role
of
the
guidelines
in
y'all's
evaluation
to
a
certain
extent,
their
advisory
because
they
have
because
this
is
not
going
to
be
federally
funded,
but
your
Udo
explicitly
incorporates
them,
as
you
know,
advisory
materials
and
when
there's
a
question
to
kind
of
defer
to
those.
So
if
you
were
again,
if
you're
moving
this
building
entirely
intact,
I,
don't
think
you
I
think
they're
they're,
the
the
process
has
been
set,
but.
L
K
J
H
K
P
Also
I
would
like
that,
while
it
was
stated
that
the
Canadian
Air
reports
said
that
it
that
didn't
have
to
be
moved
since
then,
we
also
were
following
the
guidelines
of
Staff,
who
also
gave
the
recommendation
that
for
it
to
be
moved,
if
it
was
cataloged
and
done
in
a
way
that
would
ensure
the
building
would
remain
intact
in
the
new
location,
as
is
as
current
Aesthetics
is
that
that
was
approved.
So
we've
been
following
staff's
recommendations
from
that
point
of
the
original
application.
Up
until
now,
Fitness
Mr.
H
A
F
A
A
H
H
I
H
A
A
O
D
E
B
P
H
You
so
many
minutes
from
the
February.
These
are
the
improvements
from
the
February
2nd
2022
meeting
of
this
reservation:
Commission
a
request
by
Whitmer
Jones
key
from
math,
the
owner
Billy
Larson
for
approval
of
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
code
for
demolition
to
allow
the
demolition
of
four
non-contributing
structures
of
approximately
515
square
feet.
H
525
525
square
feet,
775
square
feet,
1980
square
feet
in
the
partial
demolition,
relocation
and
contributing
structure
identified
as
a
deer
tone.
Warehouse
demolition
of
approximately
2045
square
feet
with
relocation
of
the
remaining
1585
square
feet.
I
out,
becomes
president
there's
a
discussion
on
the
non-contributing
structures
in
the
applicant,
maintaining
the
existing
trees.
H
Commissioner
Solomon
made
a
motion
to
approve
the
demolition
that,
by
that
structure,
species
narrative
and
to
approve
the
partial,
Demolition
and
relocation
of
the
contributing
structure
known
as
the
deer
tongue
Warehouse
with
the
following
conditions
that
the
structure
be
oriented
parallel,
May
River,
Road
construction
decided
10
feet
from
the
western
side
of
the
property
line.
That's
the
extent
of
our
February
minutes.
A
H
And
I
think
one
thing
that
they
that
may
help
and
because
it
does
seem
to
be
a
little
bit
of
confusion,
and
maybe
that's
just
me,
that's
confused,
but
that's
the
case
then
I'll
do
my
best
to
try
to
get
through
it.
But
what
are?
What
are
the
I
understand?
We
have
staff,
has
recommended
approval
with
conditions
and
has
listed
nine
conditions,
one
of
which
no
longer
applies.
The
applicant
has
agreed
to
hold
those
conditions
say
for
a
requests
that
you
deviate
to
permit
the
aluminum
coded.
H
So
we
have
that
from
the
applicant
and
staff,
but
we
also
have
comments
for
the
public
about
the
concern
of
the
process
and
whether
that's
and
again,
I'm
just
trying
to
flush
this
out
whether
this
constitutes
a
essentially
a
second,
a
second
bite
at
trying
to
get
the
prop.
But
the
building
demolished
is,
to
paraphrase
I,
believe
Mr,
Box
and
Miss
Hayward.
So
if
I
can,
if
he's
about
to
ask
the
commission
what
what
exactly?
H
A
Guess,
I'm,
looking
at
this
after
being
involved
in
numerous
meetings
being
involved
in
Cyprus
and
being
involved
in
the
various
process
to
do
and
being
involved
with
Glenn
and
talking
with
him
and
understanding
it
I'm.
Looking
at
this
as
a
reconstruction,
I
believe
reconstruction
is
allowed
and
that's
what.
In
my
opinion,
this
is
what
we're
doing.
I
feel
that
Amanda
you're
verifying
the
fact
that
it's
going
to
be
reconstructed
and
it's
going
to
look.
A
So
everything
is
being
done
so
if
99
of
public
were
to
walk
by
this
structure
after
its
construction,
it's
going
to
look
physically
like
the
same
deer
tongue
facility
that
we're
looking
at
today.
So
therefore,
my
belief
is
that
we're
doing
something
for
the
town,
because
there
is
I,
guess
an
additional
cost
and
understanding
that
codes.
A
Knowing
about
codes,
you
know,
my
goodness,
if
you
were
to
build
this
place
and
going
into
this
structure
today.
It's
because
I
said
when
we
went
there
for
our
site
visit
I,
think
Bridget,
you
were
there.
We
were
told
that
we
couldn't
go
in
and
we
finally
persuaded
the
folks
to
allow
us
in
to
just
go
and
look
at
it
because
of
the
safety
purposes.
So
I
guess
I'm,
saying
that
this
is
a.
K
A
A
K
A
building
is
not
the
same
as
preserving
a
building
and
preserving
the
the
structure
of
it.
I
mean
it's
just
not
and
there's
no,
but
there's
no
reason
why
I
mean
you
say
that
you
have
staff.
That
said,
it
was
not
up
to
code.
Well,
I
I
shouldn't
ask
this
question,
but
are
any
historic
buildings
100
up
to
code?
K
N
N
And
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
bring
up
when
we
have
our
Udo
Workshop
one
day
how
the
code
and
the
Udo
interact,
because
they
don't
there's
a
lot
of
conflicting
things
and
it
makes
it
hard
for
us
to
do
things.
You
guys
might
approve
something.
But
then
we
go
to
building
code
and
they
tell
us
no
and
then
we
have
to
go
back
to
you.
And
then
you
tell
us.
No,
because
that's
not
what
this
says
so
we're
in
one
of
those
situations.
K
K
K
K
L
N
N
N
A
A
Have
a
concern
in
regards
to
other
buildings
that
we
do
have
in
the
town
that
to
me
this
is
a
setting
a
decent
precedent,
because
you're
able
to
point
to
this
and
say
this
is
how
it
needs
to
be
done.
There's
a
number
of,
as
Joni
said,
there
are
some
contributing
structures
in
the
how,
in
in
our
town
that
my
concern
is,
if
we
make
it
so
difficult
that
they're
all
just
going
to
melt
and
just.
O
But
just
to
get
to
Mary's
Mary's
question
so
typically,
when
you
have
a
historic
structure,
if
you
don't
touch
it,
you
don't
have
to
fix
it.
So
if
you
move
the
structure
and
the
windows
are
there,
building
code
is
not
going
to
make.
You
change
the
windows,
but
if
you
start
doing
work
at
the
windows,
then
building
codes
or
starting
to
you
know
start
ticking
those
items
so.
O
O
It
up
to
code,
like
you
know,
whatever
whatever
Richard
says,
is
the
the
current
window
code.
Now
with
a
historic
structure,
there
are
some
some
leniencies
on.
You
know,
building
code
they
will.
They
will
allow
you
to
do
things
that
if
it's
new
construction,
they
don't
want
you
to
be
they
won't.
Let
you
do
because
it's
a
historic
building,
but
that's
that's
something
that
you
know
Richard
would
have
to
look.
Is
it
you
know
a
window
issue?
Is
that
a
door
issue?
Was
it
an
ADA
issue,
I.
P
K
P
Was
just
I
was
offering
that
conjecture
because
there's
a
lot
of
questioning
to
what
we're
saying
and
we've
put
a
lot
of
thought,
a
lot
of
care
like
we
didn't
just
come
up
and
and
make
things
up.
It's
also
you
know,
consideration
should
be
given
to
applicants
because
to
undergo
a
project
in
this
manner
does
require
time
care
attention
when
the
right
person
gets
it
in
money
and
so
to
just
get
the
building
and
say
well,
we'll
get
it
move
it
to
the
back
of
the
property,
not
touch
it.
P
P
What
is
allowed
not
only
only
by
the
Secretary
of
interior
design
standards,
but
also
per
staff's
recommendation,
and
so,
if
anything,
that's
being
in
question-
or
that
is
you
have
doubts
about,
or
certainly
things
that
could
be
verified
with
the
building
code
inspector,
because
we're
certainly
not
lying
and
saying
keep
providing
information
that
he
did
not
give
to
us
is
information
that
he
himself
walked
through
and
stated.
So,
if
there's
anything
in
question
there
I'm
sure
you
could
receive
that
information.
If
that
would
give
you
a
better
response
as
to
what
we're
saying.
H
Mr
chairman,
because
obviously
there
are
passionate
opinions
on
all
sides
of
this,
this
particular
proposal
and
when
you
have
a
historic
structure
that
has
been
such
a
important
part
of
the
town
for
as
long
as
it
has
that's,
not
that
shouldn't
be
surprised,
most
of
our
historic
structures
in
Bluffton,
I,
think
Elizabeth,
Strong's
responses
from
the
community
and
the
commission
and
staff.
So
again,
we
we
have
seen
this
in
multiple
meetings
before.
H
What's
what
I'd
like
to
do
just
again
to
be
mindful
of
everybody
who's
here
in
their
time
and
the
people
who
are
watching
and
also
obviously
the
Commissioners,
but
making
sure
that
we
pay
appropriate
attention
to
this
application.
This
kind
of
summarize
what
I've
heard
so
far
so
that
that
came
with
hope,
move
y'all
in
the
direction
of
whichever
decision
you.
You
want
to
go
and
again.
I
want
to
make.
I
H
Very
clear
that
these
opinions
I'm
trying
to
summarize
with
y'alls
these
are
not
mine,
but
from
what
I've
heard
from
Mr
chairman
that
can
summarize,
this
is
a
reconstruction
we've
permitted
it
in
the
town.
Before
we
have,
you
have
personally
visited
the
property.
You
felt
that
it
was
structurally
unsafe
to
go
into
you're
a
building
inspector,
that
there
were
inspections
that
needed
to
be
done
and
that
there
were
health
or
health
and
safety
concerns,
and
that
you
believe
that
reconstruction
to
move
the
students.
H
That's
a
little
bit
of
what
it
was
coming
down
to,
at
least
in
my
opinion,
is
whether
there
is
substantial
evidence
in
here
or
sufficient
evidence
investment.
It's
really
up
to
you
all
to
make
the
determination
as
to
whether
the
evidence
is
there
to
permit
this
relocation.
Based
on
these
terms,
Mr
Solomon.
D
Approving
this
I
mean
it
was
it's
just
I
mean
it's
a
lot
of
with
this
entire
site
plan
over
200
Pages
of
not
just
this
project
and
I
mean
that
was
I
mean
I,
don't
know
without
I'm,
not
I,
think
that
it.
This
could
be
appropriate,
but
I,
don't
I
do
think.
I
need
a
little
more
information.
I'm,
not
I,
think
that
I
completely
trust
the
applicant
that
they
I
mean
that
every
they're
saying
is
true,
I
just
going
on
what
what
I,
what
was
submitted.
D
A
Speed
then,
with
that
being
said,
could
this
be
tabled
the
correct
terminology
and
then
requesting,
as
he
stayed
the
building
inspector
Department
to
come
in
and
give
us
his
analysis?
I
mean
is,
is
the
building?
Let
me
ask
the
question
to
all
here:
I
mean
a
building
inspector.
You
know
these
guys
so
or.
O
A
A
Understanding
that
so
I'm
not
I'm
not
stating
as
an
expert
at
all
the
stating
is
what
Bruce
Tremors
sensed
and
saw
and
understood
that
there's
a
possibility
of
this.
Just
melting
to
the
ground
and
I
see
other
structures
within
Bluffton
that
will
end
up
melting
to
the
ground,
and
this
to
me
was
a
very
good
proposal
for
reconstruction.
Again
I'm,
stating
it
I'm
going
to
State
it
over
and
over
again
that
99
of
the
public
is
going
to
look
at
this
building.
Once
it's
completed
and
say
wow.
A
K
Here,
that's
not
that's
not
necessarily!
That's
not
true
I,
don't
believe
I
mean
I,
don't
I'm,
not
discounting
or
I'm,
not
saying
that
that
what
they're
saying
isn't
true
I'm,
just
saying
what
we
have
from
the
report
says
that
it's
fine
to
move
it's
stable.
It's
all
that
and
then
it's
like
a
brush
of.
Oh
no,
but
it's
dilapidated.
P
I
could
have
just
wanted
to
address
commissioner
Solomon
if
at
all
possible,
I
hear
your
concerns.
I
would
like
for
you
to
also
consider.
We
could
definitely
provide
that
information
to
you.
I
would
hate
to
see
us
having
to
go
to
another
review
on
this
because
I
do
know.
Our
original
meeting
was
set
for
September
and
we
got
pushed
back
again
and
we've
done
everything
that's
been
asked
of
us
have
to
go
and
do
another
Structural
Engineering
report.
Our
fear
is
just
that.
P
Every
time
we
come
to
a
meeting,
if
someone's
opinion
or
personal
connection
gets
involved
with
this
we're
going
to
continue
to
be
moving
the
goal
post
and
I,
don't
think.
As
for
us
as
the
applicant
that's
fair
to
us,
because
we
want
to
comply
and
abide
by
everything
that
the
Udo
is
stipulating
that
we
can
do,
and
we
are
following
that,
every
step
of
the
way
not
going
against
anything
and
I.
Just
don't
want
to
see
us
as
stated
I
have
to
be
laboring,
something
that's
going
to
continue
to
be
a
moving.
P
Target
I,
don't
think
it's
I,
don't
think
it's
fair
to
us
and
in
doing
that,
but
I
do
understand
that
you
have
concerns,
but
those
are
things
that
we
could
get
to
you
all.
If
there's
some
type
of
approval
with
conditions
that
could
happen
but
I
don't
see,
I
don't
see
a
problem
in
getting
the
information
that
would
make
you
feel
more
comfortable.
H
And
then
furtherance
of
that,
if
it's
rather
than
maybe
maybe
you
know,
staff
discretion
like,
we
would
often
do
just
to
defer
that
to
staff,
be
you
know
it's
conditioned.
Upon
A,
you
know
a
third
party
report
that
has
been
whatever
you
know:
Mr
Solomon
the
Jew
requested
before
whether
that
could
be
one
of
the
conditions
that's
incorporated
into
the
into
an
approval.
H
But
again,
ultimately,
you
have
a
criteria
under
the
Udo
to
consider
what
you've
got
a
staff
report
that
gives
their
interpretation
and
evaluation
of
the
criteria
and
it's
ultimately
your
decision
as
to
whether
you
believe
it
meets
the
Criterion.
If
you
believe
it
doesn't
meet
the
criteria,
you
need
to
stay
fly
on
the
record
good.
You
know,
as
we've
talked
about
findings
in
fact,
conclusions.
A
Legal
conclusions
based
on
the
criteria
that
are
out
there,
so
it
sounds
like
we're
at
a
point
where
we
need
to
come
up
with
a
decision
in
this,
because
we
can
have
a
discussion
on
this
for
quite
a
while
without
having
third-party
involved
in
this.
So
it
seems
like
we
have
Mr
chairman
what
I
think
might
be
a.
H
It
does
seem
that
you
have
your,
you
know
less
entren,
one
way
or
the
other
so
I.
What
I
would
say
is
to
try
to
get
a
idea
of
your
feeling
so
that
we
can
decide
whether
it
is
best
to
try
to
hear
motions
and
have
them
fail.
Two
to
two
two
to
two
and
see
where
that
leaves
the
applicant
or
see
if
there
is
a
reasonable
solution
that
can
be
reached
one
way
or
the
other.
A
B
H
Ers
or
in
the
applicant,
but
the
options
are
in
the
whether
Mr
Solomon
will
agree
to
any
sort
of
conditions
on
approval,
but
if
he
feels
that
there's
not
enough
information
to
move
forward
within
approval,
then
the
alternative
would
be
to
to
table
and
to
try
to
schedule
a
special
meeting
as
soon
as
possible
on
this
to
try
to
limit
other
ways
for
for
the
applicant.
Obviously,
that's
not
what
the
applicant
wants.
A
H
It's
whether
again
to
put
this
pressure
all
on
commissioner
Solomon
yeah.
He
sees
me
in
the
Publix
for
doing
this,
but
the
whether
you
see
that
there
are
any
conditions
that
can
be
put
on
this
or
whether
you
think
it
has
to
be
tabled
and
moved
to
a
special
meeting
to
be
called
as
quickly
as
you
can.
I
A
What
can
they
do
differently
to
make
you
comfort?
In
other
words,
they
they
presented,
what
they're
going
to
do
for
this
property?
We
understand,
if,
with
the
information
that
we
have,
if
you
get
additional
information,
what
is
that
going
to
do
to
give
you
comfort?
What
could
they
provide
to
give
you
comfort,
I,
guess,
that's
that's.
What
I'm
kind
of
confused
myself
so
I
think
I
I
believe
what
Bridget's
saying
in
regards
to
and
what
Amanda
is
saying
in
regards
to
the
inspection
department.
A
A
O
O
Was
in
June
July,
my
months
now
run
together
so
February,
we
said
something
so
February.
You
approved
the
relocation
of
the
deer
tongue,
Warehouse
the
demolition
of
the
other
buildings,
the
demolition
of
the
non-historic
northern
portion.
That's
what
you
approved.
There
was
no
discussion
about.
It
was
okay.
There
was
no
discussion
about
I'm
just
getting
confused.
O
A
O
O
So
in
this
case,
what
they're
asking
you
to
decide
on
this
evening
is
to
take
the
structure.
That's
currently
there
dismantle
it
building
new
structure
over
here,
putting
old
stuff
from
this
structure
onto
this
structure,
adding
out
the
back.
Yes,
that's
what
they're
asking
you
to
approve
right
now,
which
is
different
than
what
you
approved
in
February?
O
Okay,
now
to
Mr
Solomon's
point
about
you
know,
structure
not
being
comfortable.
You
know
that's
a
different
conversation.
You
know,
there's
a
struct
there's
a
structural
report
done
in
January
for
the
February
HPC
approval.
That's
still
out
there
now
I'm,
not
an
engineer.
I
don't
profess
to
be
an
engineer,
but
has
things
changed,
I
couldn't
tell
you.
O
H
This
is
one
of
those
areas
where
I
defer
staff
staff
has
a
much
more
time
and
experience
of
knowledge
on
this
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
Udo
does
create.
That
sort
of
you
know
tiered
preservation
standard
where
it's
okay,
if
you
move
it
in
whole,
is,
is
that
more
beneficial
to
you
know,
reconstructing
on
that
that
space,
I
I,
don't
know,
but
that's.
O
O
Right,
no
Rehabilitation,
that's
the
standard.
That's
in
the
that's
the
standard,
that's
in
the
Udo
318
3,
a
talks
about
the
Secretary
of
Interiors
standards
for
rehabilitation
of
a
historic
building.
Reconstruction
is
a
different
treatment,
because
the
secretary
has
four
that's
a
different
one:
that's
not
in
the
Udo
it's
allowed
and
that's
not
what
reconstruction
is.
This
is
not
reconstruction
by
the
Secretary
of
interior's
Standards.
B
O
O
So,
for
example,
reconstruction
under
those
standards
would
be
something
along
the
lines
of
we
have
drawings
and
documentation
of
what
Square
Pope's
house
looked
like
Squire,
Hall,
Square,
Post
House
burned
down
in
1863.
We
want
to
rebuild
it
reconstruction.
We
can
do
that
under
the
Secretary
of
interior
standards,
because
they
tell
you
how
to
do
that.
That's
not
what
this
is,
so
my
counsel
would
be.
This
is
not
reconstructed
by
the
standards.
K
P
And
everyone's
ready
to
go
home,
but
just
interjecting
or
following
back
up
on
what
Glenn
said,
we're
just
active
for
the
same
type
of
Precedence
that
other
property
owners
of
contributing
structures
have
received.
This
is
this
is
not
a
foreign
process.
We
are
not
the
first
to
do
it.
The
graves
home
was
literally
done
in
the
same
fashion,
with
probably
not
as
much
intricacy
that
we're
doing
the
same
thing
was
done
with
the
Garvin
Garvey
home.
We
are
seeing
the
same.
P
Precedence
means
at
the
Joyner
home
and
the
recent
property
here
on
Moore
Street
owners
of
contributing
structures
have
a
two-folded
burden.
One
is
taking
something
that
is
precious
and
dear
to
the
area,
but
it's
also
assuming
the
financial
responsibilities
of
that,
and
so,
if
we
want
to
set
the
type
of
Precedence,
that's
encouraging
people
to
not
feel
burdened
with
acquiring
these
structures.
Then
it
also
has
to
be
in
understanding
that
our
Udo
our
processes,
it
should
be
things
that
are
meant
to
work
with
people
in
doing
that,
and
not
necessarily
pin
analyzing
them
for
that.
P
For
that
purpose,
and
especially
when
they
are
going
in
accordance
with
the
guidelines
when
we
submitted
our
final
HPC
packet,
we
also
submitted
the
Reconstruction.
So
it's
not
like
you
know
we're
here
tonight,
bringing
it
up
for
the
first
time
and
what
that
came,
that
cataloging
came
the
detail
of
of
how
all
that
would
happen
under
the
recommendation
that
we
received
from
sap
at
the
hprc
meeting,
so
I
just
wanted
to,
because
I
don't
want
anyone
to
feel
like
this
is
the
first
time
with
the
first
people
to
actually
do
this.
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P
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If
the
deer
tone
building
remains,
as
is
on
that
property
or
move
to
an
adjacent
property,
that
building
would
be
non-existent
and
it
the
only
love
we'll
have,
for
it
will
be
of
a
memory,
and
we
don't
want
that
to
be
the
case,
because
we
want
that
structure
to
be
there
and
not
just
preserve.
We
want.
A
Let
me
ask
you:
yeah
yeah,
that's
falling
apart,
so
Glenn.
Let
me
ask
you
if
we
were
to
say
we
need
to
have
a
special
meeting.
When
could
we
schedule
a
special
meeting
and
how
do
you
go
about
that
because
I've
never
been
involved
in
one,
but
it
seems
like
if
we
need
to
have
that
and
have
these
individuals
come.
A
H
A
We
have
to
travel,
and
hopefully
you
know
I
signed
up
to
be
on
a
commission
and
I.
Just
mentioning
this
to
the
fellow
Commissioners
that
are
out
here,
I
think
my
attendance
has
been
pretty
doggone
good
for
the
last.
However
many
years
and
it's
just
really
disappointing
to
see
the
others
not
attending
I'm.
Just
saying
that,
because
that's
upsetting
to
me
that
we
didn't
get
the
input
from
them.
A
H
I
think
I
think
it's
just
a
motion
to
table
to
give
the
applicant
and
the
commission
more
time
to
you,
know,
review
the
materials,
but
also
to
provide
additional
materials
regarding
the
the
structural
Integrity
of
the
building.
Is
that
what
I
I'm
going
to
have
to
defer
to
commissioner
Solomon
and
box
Bell
about
what?
What
and
what
particularly
they're
looking
for
but
effectively
it's
just
a
motion
to
table
but
be
sure
to
provide
some
contacts
say
that
people.
D
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B
D
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D
A
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A
H
A
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It
I
I
think
the
the
option
is
from
there's
an
option
for
Mr
Solomon
to
try
to
amend
this,
to
put
his
condition
on
it,
but
I
don't
think
that
Mr
Solomon
has
a
condition
in
mind
that
he
feels
is
appropriate.
That
would
allow
him
to
agree
with
conditions.
So
there
is
a
motion
with
the
second
Mr
Solomon
does
not
wish
to
amend.
You
can
vote
on
it.
I
imagine
it'll
go
after
that.
A
K
A
A
H
Way
too
much
at
this
meeting
already,
but
if
I
may
add
one
small
thing:
Mr
Mr
Solomon
said
that
he
sounds
like
he
doubted
whether
he
should
be
serving
on
this
commission.
I
will
make
that
very
clear
that
I.
Thank
you.
Your
insights
are
consistently
excellent
and
I.
Think
you're
extraordinarily
valuable.
Member
of
this
commission
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that.
E
K
I
would
like
to
say
that
I
do
have
a
personal
connection
to
this
building
and
and
but
I'm
that
is
so
long
ago,
if
anything
I'm
like
I'm
over
that
I
do
not
care
at
all
this
I'm.
Looking
at
this,
like
I'm
on
the
preservation
commission-
and
this
is
what
president
this
is,
what
my
purpose
of
being
on
here
is
is
not
to
just
let
something
be
demolished
and
reconstructed
using
the
same
materials.
So
I
I
get
that
you
think
that
it's
a
personal
thing
for
me,
but
it
really
really
is
not.