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Town of Hilton Head - Planning Commission Meeting Wednesday, December 21, 2022, at 2 PM
Meeting Agenda available at https://hiltonheadislandsc.gov/boards/plngcom/
A
A
C
A
I'm
going
to
make
one
suggestion
that
I
want
to
move
up
one
item:
that's
a
late
on
the
agenda!
I
want
to
move
it
up
for
a
couple
of
reasons:
one.
We
have
a
lot
of
citizens
who
want
to
talk
to
us
about
it.
That
would
be
the
staff
report.
That's
going
to
be
on
the
Hilton
Head
project
over
at
probably
off
of
Folly
Field
Road
in
Wimbledon
Court
I'm,
going
to
move
that
up
a
little
bit
in
the
agenda.
A
It
will
come
right
after
the
first
LMO
amendments
and
it
will
be
before
the
second
LMO
members,
so
I'm
going
to
move
that
change
the
agendas
all
in
favor.
Of
that
change,
please
identify
by
raising
your
ID.
Okay,
that's
unanimous!
We
will
change
the
agenda
in
that
order.
Let's
see
we
have
the
minutes
of
the
last
meeting
of
November.
The
16th
do
I,
have
a
motion
to
accept
those
almost
so
move
to
our
second
second
for
Mr
Campbell,
all
in
favor
of
approving
the
minutes
of
the
previous
meeting.
It's
unanimous
five!
A
C
A
A
A
G
This
request
is
from
Josh
tiller
of
JK
tiller
Associates
for
a
text
amendment
to
allow
a
new
use
to
be
established,
called
Islander
mixed
use.
It's
proposed
to
be
established
within
the
Sea
Pine
Circle
District
The
Proposal
adds
a
definition.
It
establishes
use
specific
conditions
and
some
exceptions
to
the
development
form
standards.
So
before
you
as
an
amendment
to
the
following
sections
in
the
Land
Management
ordinance,
16,
3-105m,
seapine,
Circle,
District,
164-102a
principal
uses,
164102
B
use
specific
conditions
in
1610,
103A
use,
classifications,
use
types
and
definitions.
G
So
it's
staff's
recommendation
before
you
that
the
Planning
Commission
review
this
amendment
and
forward
a
recommendation
on
to
Town
Council,
so
I'm
going
to
go
through
first.
What
the
request
is
and
then
go
through
the
staff
analysis
of
that
request.
So
based
on
what
was
before
you
and
provided
by
the
applicant.
G
It
starts
with
the
creation
of
a
new
use
and
that
use
again
is
called
Islander
mixed
use,
and
the
definition
that's
proposed
is
that
it
includes
two
or
more
uses
that
include
Islanders
mixed
use
and
either
an
office
use
or
commercial
service
use,
as
well
as
it
allows
dormitory
group
living
use
within
the
definition.
That's
proposed
again.
G
So
certainly
the
used
Islanders
mixed
use
to
have
mixed
use,
a
mix
of
residential
is
worthy
of
review
and
consideration.
Currently
mixed
use
is
a
use,
that's
allowed
within
the
Sea
Pine
Circle
District.
It
has
a
density
limitation
of
12
dwelling
units
per
net
acre
and
10
000
gross
flare
area
for
non-residential
and
again
mixed
use
currently
does
not
allow
the
inclusion
of
a
shared
parking
plan
for
residential.
G
So
for
group
living
group
living
is
currently
not
allowed
in
the
Sea
Pine
Circle
District
group
living
dormitory
use
is
part
of
the
use
definition
that's
proposed
as
proposed.
There
is
not
a
use
mix
ratio
so,
as
proposed
say
all
of
the
residential
that
was
proposed
as
part
of
Islanders
mixed
use
could
be
group
living
dormitory
use.
G
So
the
density
for
the
proposed
use
is
undefined
so
again
that
density
would
be
defined
more
by
the
development
form.
Standards
like
height
parking
lot,
coverage,
setbacks
and
buffers
would
be
how
the
form
of
the
development
would
would
have
some
parameters
applied
to
it.
The
only
other
District
in
our
code
that
has
undefined
density
is
the
caligny
resort
district
and
that
area
is
defined
by
those
same
development
form
standards.
G
G
So
that
would
be
one
thing
to
consider
as
you
review
this
proposal
again,
the
parking
The
Proposal
again
is
for
a
1.5
spaces
for
the
residential
and
one
per
500
for
the
non-residential
and
as
well
as
the
establishment
of
the
allowance
that
it
can
accommodate
a
shared
parking
plan.
So
we
do
allow
shared
parking
plans
for
a
variety
of
other
uses.
However,
not
mixed
use,
and
it
has,
in
the
shared
parking
section
quite
a
few
requirements
for
a
shared
parking
agreement.
G
G
So
the
proposal
also
has
its
proposed
at
to
be
within
500
feet
of
an
education
use.
We
found
through
looking
at
what
Viking
and
walking
tolerances
are
that
it's
reasonable
to
expect
someone
to
be
able
to
walk
or
bike
between
500
and
1
500
feet,
and
we
included
a
map
within
the
packet.
The
hot
pink
is
the
Sea
Pine
Circle
district
and
then
there's
a
500
foot
radius,
a
thousand
foot
radius
and
a
1
500
foot
radius.
G
Based
on
the
walking
and
biking
tolerances,
we
would
recommend
that
the
use
be
expanded
to
up
to
a
thousand
feet
to
meet
those
walking
and
biking
tolerances.
It
keeps
most
of
the
eligible
area
to
be
south
of
the
Sea
Pine
Circle
district,
and
then
it
eliminates
the
appearance
that
it
could
be
considered
spot
zoning
because
it
would
accommodate
some
additional
Parcels
that
would
be
eligible
to
to
utilize
this
use.
So
this
slide
shows
that
there
are
23
Parcels
within
500
feet.
There
are
34
Parcels
within
a
thousand
feet
and
49
Parcels
within
1500
feet.
G
So
the
height
as
proposed
they're,
looking
for
a
maximum
height
of
55
feet
and,
of
course,
the
height
limit
for
all
development
within
Sea
Pine
Circle
district,
is
currently
45
feet.
We
would
ask
the
Planning
Commission
to
consider
keeping
the
45
feet
such
that
development
within
all
of
the
Sea
Pine
Circle
district
is
within
that
height
limitation.
G
H
Hello,
my
name
is
Lewis
Hammond
I
represent
the
applicant
Josh
tiller,
who
worked
closely
with
putting
a
lot
of
this
together
is
out
with
the
covet,
but
we
have
other
people
here
that
have
been
integral
to
this
myself,
the
principal
David
to
Spain
and
and
others.
Alan
wolf
is
here
from
The
Surge
group
I
just
wanted
to
say
a
couple
of
overview
things
that
weren't
touched
down
in
the
staff
or
that
weren't
touched
on
to
the
from
the
angle
that
we
do.
H
This
is
something
that
this
developer
put
together
in
close
consultation
with
the
uscb.
They
need
housing
and
this
developer
agreed
to
provide
it.
The
reason
that
it
wants
to
be
shared
housing
is,
we
already
have
an
agreement
with
uscb
for
75
shared
spaces
that
we
can
use
that's
different
than
probably
anything
else
that
will
come
before
you
and
frankly,
it
makes
the
density
standards
sort
of
irrelevant
for
our
site.
It's
because
we
have
so
much
parking
right,
next
door
and
so
much
functioning
with
air,
but
we
work
very
closely
with
them
and
all
right.
H
Alan
wolf
has
worked
very
closely
with
us
through
the
whole
process,
from
concept
until
we've
arrived
here
again,
he's
he's
the
head
of
the
largest
employer
on
the
island
and,
as
you
all
know,
better
than
I.
That's
a
big,
a
big
concern,
particularly
the
south
end
of
the
island,
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
put
together
some
housing
that
can
be
used
by
service
industry
workers
and
Broad
service
industry
I
mean
that
that
that's
more
than
just
bartenders
and
waitresses,
it
might
be
assistant
managers
or
tellers
at
Banks.
H
Well,
the
only
way
we
achieve
10
to
20
percent,
even
if
this
developer
could
put
that
together,
is
to
raise
the
price
of
the
other
80
to
90
percent
of
units
which
we
don't
want
to
do.
We've
agreed
to
limit
short-term
rentals,
it
won't
be
any
short-term
rentals
and
the
town
has
already
identified.
That
is
probably
the
biggest
problem
on
South
End
of
the
island.
We're
eliminating
that
plus,
where
we're
going
to
build
it,
is
your
Lowdown
office
way.
H
There
is
tucked
in
right
next
to
the
school,
with
major
service
industry,
restaurant
groups
bar
groups,
things
like
that
surrounding
it,
and
so
we
we
see
that
as
being
a
major
major
part
of
our
Market,
we're
not
restricting
only
to
that,
because
once
you
build
it,
you
can't
get
financed
to
build
it.
If
you,
if
you're
going
to
leave
units
vacant,
but
that's
our
target
market
and
we're
working
with
major
employers
to
bring
people
in
to
that
Target
Market,
just
as
an
Assad
as
I
think
you
all
know
right
now.
H
This
is
a
largely
abandoned
and
somewhat
dilapidated
office
site
with
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
office
space
on
it.
This
would
replace
that,
but
under
y'all's
ordinances
that
can
be
redeveloped
by
right
and
we've
had
traffic
traffic
people
look
at
it
and
I
do
a
full
traffic
study.
But
just
look
at
the
ite
manual
on
what
trip
generation.
H
Our
proposal
would
be
compared
to
doing
all
that
office,
commercial
and,
and
we're
told
that
at
peak
hours
it
would
be
much
more
traffic
with
the
office
commercial,
which
is
a
Buy
Right
Use
than
what
we're
doing
so.
We
think
what
we're
doing
is
actually
a
reduction
in
the
impact
of
this
development.
H
Again,
we've
worked
very
closely
with
both
uscb
and
these
these
members
of
the
employment
community
and
tried
to
come
up
with
the
thing
we
think
works
best.
We
don't
we
we
recommended
that
it
be
500
feet
from
our
site
to
an
educational
site,
because
we
were
500
feet,
I,
don't
think
we
have
any
objection.
If
the
town
would
like
to
allow
that
District
to
be
in
a
thousand
foot
or
a
1500
foot,
it
would
include
other
properties.
H
H
When
I
designed
people,
both
Architects
and
and
Mr,
tiller
and
others,
I
say
at
55
feet,
we
can
design
a
better
product.
We
don't
have
to
be
just
eight
foot
ceilings.
We
could
have
a
little
higher
ceiling
in
some
places.
We
can
do
architectural
features
for
aesthetic
purposes
the
child's
ordinance
used
to
allow
going
through
a
process
that
I
don't
think
it
does
now.
So
that's
the
sort
of
thing
we
want
to
do
is
build
a
better
project
that
does
not
translate
into
more
density
or
more
intensity.
It's
just
for
a
better
product.
H
Again,
this
was
mentioned
too,
that
we
want
to
be
ruled
by
performance
standards
rather
than
a
fixed
density.
When
it
comes
to
the
site,
that's
what
we
got
in
caligny
right
next
door,
another
intense
District
that
that
would
be
compatible
with
as
far
as
using
the
performance
standards.
We
think
it's
particularly
appropriate
for
this
site,
because
so
much
of
our
parking
is
off-site
through
this
shared
arrangement
with
uscb,
for
whom
we're
providing
some
housing
so
I,
think
that
makes
it
particularly
appropriate
that
we
do
it.
H
Do
it
that
way:
gee
whiz,
if
you
to
calculate
the
density
on
our
site,
if
you
had
that
75
additional
spaces
room
for
that
plus
the
the
landscaped
median
stuff
that
goes
with
the
parking
spaces,
the
open
space
that
goes
with
it,
setbacks
that
go
with
it
storm
water
drainage.
They
would
be
considerably
more.
H
H
I
want
to
I'm
gonna,
have
Alan
wolf
from
surge
group,
say
something
because
serving
that
service
worker
Market
in
non-short
term
product.
It's
such
a
big
part
of
what
we
want
to
do.
I
want
him
to
say
a
thing
or
two
I'm,
not
sure.
If
I
missed
any
point,
that
y'all
would
want
me
to
address.
If
so
I'll
be
here,.
A
I
Commissioners,
Alan,
wolf
surge,
Restaurant,
Group
I,
think
Lou
laid
it
out
pretty.
Clearly
we're
excited
to
be
here.
This
was
over
a
year
ago
that
the
developer
approached
us
at
The,
Surge
Restaurant
Group,
to
see
if
we'd
like
to
see
some
dormitory
housing
on
the
south
end,
and
we
said
please
wait
and
put
the
right
product
and
that
product
would
serve
more
than
just
group
living,
and
this
is
a
tremendous
outcome.
I
think
a
year
later,
of
working
with
the
town
staff
and
developers
surge
group
has
finally
put
our
money
where
our
mouth
is.
I
I
would
recognize
we
have
some
members
of
the
team
from
the
uscb
side
that
are
here
and
anxious
to
hear
if
you
all
have
any
questions
related
to
that.
I
I
would
just
touch
on
the
one
point
that
Lou
made
about
the
height
they're
looking
to
do
a
peaked
roof
at
55
feet,
not
a
flat
roof
for
architectural
design
standard
purposes.
So
as
to
his
point,
there
would
be
no
additional
housing
on
on
another
level.
It
was
just
for
architectural
purposes,
fair.
I
J
J
This
challenge,
which
is
Workforce
housing
great-
that
uscbs
involved
and
I-
know
that
it's
important
for
them
to
have
the
housing
there
for
their
fatality
campus
Because.
You
know
hospitality
is
one
of
our
main
industries
here,
you're
the
main
employer
in
that
area
and
and
so
the
school's
helping
to
populate.
I
Well,
certainly,
we'll
rapidly
seek
out
contracts
with
hoteliers
service
providers
like
The,
Greenery,
firefighters.
You
know
restaurant
providers
like
us
to
secure
long-term
contracts
that
would
avoid
any
restrict.
You
know
any
increases
year
over
year.
That's
going
to
be
the
primary
goal,
foreign.
J
J
D
Thank
you
so
Mr
chairman,
just
for
your
information,
the
LMO
committee
did
review
this
last
month
and
recommended
to
move
that
forward
to
this
larger
body
for
discussion.
As
we're
doing
today,
all
of
our
concerns
were
addressed
have
been
addressed
personally
I
think
it's
a
very
clever
and
creative
approach
to
to
dealing
with
the
need
for
Workforce
housing
and
also
taking
care
of
students
nearby.
It's
a
it's
a
perfect
location
for
this
kind
of
thing
and
and
the
way
it's
been
handled
is
I
believe
very
well
done.
D
I
Well,
actually,
we
have
16
of
quad
units
that
are
set
up
specifically
for
students,
so
that
would
be
some
64
students
that
would
have
primary
access
to
those
year
round.
It's
a
separate
building
from
the
general
apartments
and
the
hope
would
be
to
keep
them
here
working
in
the
summer
as
well-
and
you
know
also
make
those
annual
leases,
if
possible,
but
right.
Yeah
they'd
have
their
own
space.
K
K
I
L
Sibo
Alan
I'd
also
like
to
commend
you
for
moving
forward
on
this
project.
That's
a
good
meet
to
all
the
things
that
Tom
had
said
about
repurposing
some
space
and
that
needs
to
be
done
in
the
shared
parking.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
for
Missy,
though,
if
you
don't
mind,
yeah
sure
is:
are
there
any
any
substantive
changes?
Since
the
LMO
committee
reviewed
this
material
on
November
1st,
the.
L
A
With
regard
to
the
density,
I
think
when
you
you
take
the
density
issue,
if
you
look
at
the
combination
of
all
that
you've
got
in
this
project,
including
the
dormitory
rooms
and
then
the
apartments
yeah
I,
don't
know
that
the
density
becomes
an
issue,
at
least
not
in
my
opinion,
on
this
particular
situation
with
regard
to
the
height
exemption
or
variance
whatever
it
might
be
called
I.
Don't
have
a
major
issue
with
that.
A
As
long
as
it's
architectural
and
doesn't
add
another
story
to
the
proposal
buildings
the
proposed
size
of
the
buildings,
the
dormitory.
If
I
have
this
correct,
if
I
don't
if
the
dormitories
will
serve
what
48
students
or
64
students-
okay,
all
right-
well,
that's
awesome,
so
I
am
I,
have
no
major
problems
personally
with
what
you've
got
proposed
here,
but
I
do
commend
you
for
trying
to
kill
more
than
one
bird
with
the
with
the
stone.
A
G
Right
now,
I
mean
the:
why
excuse
again
there's
nothing
that
ties
it
to
serving
Islanders
or
Workforce.
You
know
we
had
suggested.
You
know
that
it
meets
some
sort
of
Workforce
housing
percentage
that
could
be
a
rent
cap
that
could
be
fair
market
rent.
There
could
be
other
mechanisms
that
it
serves
the
workforce,
so
staff
would
still
recommend
that
there's
some
tie
to
it's
actually
serving
the
workforce
that
it's
intended
to
serve
well.
A
A
You
have
mentioned
that
you've
worked
with
the
various
organizations
on
the
island
that
are
looking
for
a
shelter
for
their
employees.
That's
right,
a
Search
Group,
obviously
being
one
mentioned
already.
Are
there
other
groups,
in
other
words,
when
we
say
Workforce,
housing,
we're
looking
for
apartments
and
units
that
can
be
afforded
by
people
who
are
going
to
be
working
in
our
community
in
service
Community?
A
If,
if
you're,
if
you're,
making
this
Workforce
housing,
has
a
special
definition
and
I'm
not
sure
that
this
exactly
fits
into
Workforce
housing.
However,
as
I
say,
you're,
a
different
animal
and
if
you've
got
arrangements
with
organizations
like
The
Surge
group
from
Marriott
or
any
of
these
other
organizations
to
take
these
units
on
a
long-term
situation.
Obviously
they
consider
the
the
proposed
rents
that
you
would
be
charging
to
be
reasonable
enough
for
their
service
employees
and
in
a
sense
it
may
not
be
the
strict
definition
of
Workforce
housing
on
the
rents.
A
I
That
we
have
plugged
in
and
perform
it
are
anywhere
from
90
to
140
am
I
already
to
make
the
deal
pencil
and
that's
strictly
because
land
costs
on
the
south
end
is
so
expensive.
If
that
was
cut
down,
maybe
there'd
be
more
flexibility,
but
we're
already
in
range
and
if
I
was
to
pull
up
apartments.com
or
Zillow
and
show
you
the
rates
of
one
bedrooms
in
Bluffton
for
17
or
1800
you'd
be
paying
more
there
than
you
would
for
a
studio
in
this
unit.
So
we're
already
fairly
competitive.
I
A
I
G
I
E
K
G
Yeah,
while
the
applicant
team
does
have
a
specific
development
in
mind,
I
wanted
to
remind
the
Planning
Commission.
This
is
a
text
amendment
that
that
impacts
several
properties
and
not
all
of
them
may
have
these
same
agreements
in
place
and
that
again
they
have
the
desire
to
work
with
area
employers
to
make
this
affordable
and
serve
their
Workforce.
That
may
not
be
the
case
with
other
other
properties
that
would
take
advantage
of
this
new
use
within
that
radius,
where
this
would
be
allowed.
G
G
You
know
the
the
use
mix
for
certainly
right
now,
with
the
education
use
with
usdb.
It
doesn't
have
a
student
population
that
attends
that
University
building
for
all
of
their
classes,
as
drafted
again.
That
use
mix
could
be
that
it's
all
dormitory.
Well,
if
it
was
a
regularly
attended
University.
That
would
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
have
a
dorm,
100
dormitory
building.
G
A
A
F
So
I
think
that
you
know
the
recommendations
should
include
some
Provisions
that
it's
required
to
have
for
ourselves.
I
mean
it
should
be
a
majority.
Even
if
it's,
if
it's
a
percentage,
it
should
be
the
majority
of
it
so
dormitory
and
Workforce
housing.
That's
the
intention.
You
should
put
it
in
in
the
law
or
in
the
the
required
thank.
E
I
That's
a
great
point
to
make,
because
I
was
thinking
about
this
before.
How
do
you
make
sure
that
there's
workers
living
all
the
space
at
a
recent
town-
housing
charette?
Where
we
had
you
know-
probably
40
50
local
community
members,
Town
manager,
Mark
Orlando?
He
he
outlined
how
they
approached
that
matter
when
he
was
in
Bluffton
and
they
had
a
point
scoring
system
that
they
applied.
So
you
were
eligible
to
get
an
open
unit
based
on
on
the
highest
point
score
and
of
course
one
of
the
metrics
would
be.
I
Are
you
employed
in
working
on
Hilton,
Head
Island?
You
would
then
qualify
for
points,
so
we
would
lean
heavily
on
that
model
to
ensure
that
we
fill
132
units
with
workers.
First
and
I
would
be
hard-pressed
to
imagine
we
couldn't
do
so
without
getting
into
the
general
public,
but
because
of
fair
housing
standards.
I
We'd
we'd
have
to
employ
a
model
like
that
to
ensure
that
we've
got
workers
going
in,
because
we
don't
want
to
build
something
that,
just
as
she
alluded
to
could
Spar
a
lot
of
control
and
I
would
also
recommend
that
if,
if
there
was
an
Ami
10
of
up
to
120
would
seem
to
make
sense,
at
least
with
the
dirt.
On
the
south
end,
and
since
we're
talking
500
feet
of
a
university,
it's
the
only
one
on
the
on
the
island.
A
Thank
you
other
comments
from
them.
People
gather
here
today.
If
not,
then
I
will
close
the
comment
period
on
this
and
ask
my
Commissioners.
Is
there
a
motion
that
somebody
wants
to
propose
on
this,
so
moved
move
that
we
should
move
this
on
to
the
Town
Council
all
right?
Any
other
comments,
a
second
a
second
for
Mr
seibold,
here:
okay
signify
by
raise
your
hand
all
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
move
this
on
to
Town
Council.
A
M
Good
afternoon,
chairman
Commissioners
Sean
Cole
assistant
Town
manager,
I
also
serve
as
a
community
development
director
and
Alamo
officials.
I
want
to
make
just
a
few
comments,
because
this
is
a
this
process
is
a
little
different
than
what's
included
in
our
LMO
and
our
normal
standard
operating
procedure.
But
sometime
July
August.
We
began
to
implement
bringing
major
subdivisions
and
development
plan
reviews
to
Planning
Commission
and
there's
been
some
question
about
what
the
role
is
for.
M
M
The
project
and
Nicole
will
go
through
a
lot
of
the
details,
but
this
property
was
was
rezoned
Rd
six
eight
years
ago.
It
allows
16
dwelling
units
per
acre,
it's
8.4
Acres.
It
allows
134
units.
There
is
a
provision
where
our
lockout
units
are
allowed
and
they
count
as
half
a
dwelling
unit.
So
there's
really
160
six
spaces
within
this
development.
But
as
our
code
reads,
it's.
M
Yeah,
it's
a
it's
a
accessory,
it's
an
accessory
space
to
a
primary
use,
and
so
a
lot
of
times
lockouts
they
don't.
They
don't
meet
the
full
definition
of
a
dwelling
unit.
They
don't
have
a
another
kitchen
or
another
facility,
but
but
it
can
be
accessed
independently
from
the
the
primary
space,
and
so
the
the
town
code
is
red.
M
This
way
where
it's
counter
lockouts
as
a
partial
unit
over
time
and
the
way
the
code's
written
right
now,
each
one
of
those
lockout
units
counts
as
a
half
of
a
unit,
and
so
if
they
have
64
lockout
units,
it
counts
as
32
dwelling
units
per
our
code,
and
that
provision
has
been
part
of
the
the
LMO
for
some
time
in
the
Prime
in
the
in
the
resort
areas,
because
the
model
of
development
was
for
time
shares
and
these
other
developments
was
primary
unit
and
then
a
lockout.
Thank.
A
M
M
We
have
been
asking
for
improvements
to
circulation,
to
access
for
safety,
for
Street
Edge,
to
look
at
roadway
impacts
and
connectivity,
and
so
we
continue
to
push
for
those
things
as
Nicole
goes
through
and
gives
you
details
on
the
project
and
you'll
see
some
plans
and
and
I'd
requested
that
we
get
an
elevation.
So
you
can
see
what
the
development
looks
like
from
the
street
as
proposed.
M
I'd
like
to
get
your
input,
but
coming
out
of
this
meeting,
I
expect
that
we
will
request
additional
enhancements
along
the
street
Edge.
It's
very
important
for
that
for
that
for
that
street
to
maintain
its
character
and
not
lose
lose
that
character
because
of
the
masking
and
scale
of
this
project,
you'll
see
the
elevation
and
I
believe
having
a
additional
screening
and
fence
commensurate
or
better
than
the
fences
that
exist
in
other
areas
along
that
streetscape
would
make
the
project
better.
I.
M
Think
additional
planning
plan
with
screening
of
the
building
massing
would
benefit
and
I'd,
like
the
commission,
support
and
hearing
your
input
on
those
things,
I
think
enhanced
circulation
and
safety.
You
know
the
idea
of
having
a
fence.
If
you
look
at
the
elevation
and
the
planning
plan
you
can
move
if
folks
are
in
that
development.
Folks
can
just
move
through
kind
of
that,
especially
the
initially
planted
buffer
and
there's
really
no
funneling
into
dedicated
access
points
that
would
help
safety
and
crossing
of
that
street
and
I.
M
N
Thank
you,
Sean
kind
of
stole
my
thunder
and
pretty
much
mentioned
everything
I
was
going
to
mention,
but
I'll
just
go
through
quickly.
The
the
scope
of
the
project
so
up
on
the
screen
is
an
aerial
view
of
the
property
it
kind
of
jig
jugs
around
here
located
on
Folly
Field
Road
we've
got
the
Lions
to
the
north
of
the
property
Ocean
Palms,
which
is
another
timeshare
development
in
the
rear.
We've
got
Fiddler's
Cove
multi-family
down
here
and
then
Island
Club
across
the
street.
N
The
property
is
currently
developed
as
a
tennis
racquet
facility.
It's
been
not
used
for
years,
so
the
plan
to
redevelop
this
property
like
Sean
mentioned,
began
probably
six
years
ago,
the
applicant
or
not
this
current
applicant.
But
there
was
a
application
in
several
years
ago
for
a
time
share
development.
It
did
not
get
approved
and
was
withdrawn,
and
so
a
new
application
was
submitted
in
January
earlier
this
year,
and
staff
is
currently
in
the
process
of
reviewing
the
latest
plans,
which
were
on
Fifth
submittal.
D
N
Apologize
for
the
delay
here
so
this
is
so
most
of
the
plan
set-
is
into
two
different
pages
two
sheets
for
each
section,
but
this
is
an
overall
schematic
showing
the
proposed
development.
It's
a
little
bit
hard
to
see
on
your
screen.
It
was
included
in
your
packet,
but
there's
two
entrances
proposed
on
Folly
Field
Road
one.
The
southernmost
entrance
would
be
probably
the
main
entrance
into
the
development
you'll
come
in
here,
there's
a
a
roundabout
here.
N
The
developer
has
been
working
with
us
and
has
has
met
a
lot
of
our
comments
and
we're
kind
of
getting
towards
the
end,
with
some
limited
comments
remaining,
but
we
are
pushing
still
for
some
of
those
items
that
we
think
are
important
and
would
like
to
see.
As
Sean
mentioned,
we
will
be
asking
for
a
fence
or
something
similar
to
to
provide
some
consistency
with
some
of
the
other
developments
on
Folly
Field
Road
and
provide
a
nice
streetscape
for
Valleyfield.
N
There
are
one
one
main
concern
that
the
town
has
and
if
we
have
any,
if
you
have
any
further
questions
about
it,
we
can
bring
Brian
Eber
up
here,
but
there
are
two
significant
sized
trees
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
remove
but
has
not
satisfied
the
town's
concerns
and
demonstrated
why
they
have
to
remove
it.
So
the
code
requires
that
they
explore
all
options
demonstrate
that
it's
not
feasible
to
keep
the
trees
and
and
the
town
is
not
satisfied
that
they've
addressed
that.
N
N
M
N
I
believe
that's
all
that
I
was
gonna
go
over
like
Sean
mentioned
we're
looking
for
input
from
you
all.
You
know
like
we
said,
staff
is
continuing
to
push
for
for
excellence
and
for
the
the
project
to
meet
our
town
code
and
our
plan
and
we're
looking
for
input
from
you
all
and
to
allow
that
input.
Allow
public
comment
and
allow
the
applicant
to
answer
any
questions
as
well.
I.
N
M
M
You
know
the
concerns
I
have
are
that
you
anybody
could
kind
of
Pop
through
those
bushes.
The
reason
I'm
thinking
what
I'm
expecting
a
fence
be
part
of
this
is
to
help
control
some
access
as
part
of
that,
and
if
you
look
at
the
the
remainder
of
the
Folly
Field
the
character
of
that
street
I
think
some
additional
articulation
would
blend
in
much
better.
M
With
that
overall
context,
I
had
the
opportunity
to
walk
the
neighborhood
in
the
rain
yesterday
with
a
couple
of
members
of
this
community
on
a
different
issue,
but
but
when
you're
out
there,
if
you,
if
you
really
pay
attention
to
kind
of
the
the
neighborhood
in
that
context
and
then
project
this
in
there
I
think
every
effort
we
can
make.
So
this
this
becomes
a
additional
value,
add
to
the
community
and
doesn't
become
you
know,
kind
of
the
thing
that
folks
point
to
we
miss
an
opportunity.
A
B
One
of
projects
like
this
starts
through
the
development
permit
process.
One
of
the
first
things
it
does
is.
It
goes
before
the
design
review
board
and
the
design
review
board
is
charged
with
aesthetic
issues
site
plan
Landscaping.
What
does
it
look
like?
This
is
the
streetscape
that
was
approved
by
the
design
review
board.
B
The
site
plans
that
are
here
were
all
approved
by
the
design
review
board
and
now,
unfortunately,
the
developer
finds
itself
in
the
position
of
town
staff
saying
well
we're
not
sure
we
liked
what
the
design
review
board
approved.
So
we
want
you
to
change
things
and
that
that
puts
the
developer
in
a
difficult
position
you
know
accommodating,
but
it
was
the
design
review
board
who
said
no
fence
along
the
road,
and
now
the
town
staff
wants
us
to
do
something
that
would
violate
the
design,
review,
board
approval
and
we're
working
through
these
issues.
B
With
them,
but
it
puts
the
developer
here
in
a
difficult
position
with
respect
to
the
two
significant
trees
that
Nicole
mentioned,
the
plans
do
provide
for
saving
one
of
them,
the
other
one
I,
don't
know
what
sort
of
justification
you
have
to
remove
it
other
than
the
arborist
report
says.
Take
it
out
now.
If
the
town
staff
has
some
other
reason,
if
they
want
to
keep
it,
then
they
let
us
know
about
it,
but
that
sort
of
thing
you
know
justifying
removing
it.
B
That
is
a
completely
subjective,
determination
on
the
part
of
the
Town
staff
and
something
that
we
can't
figure
out.
What's
going
on
with
it,
I
mean
we're
certainly
willing
to
do
to
do
reasonable
changes,
but
reworking
the
entire
stormwater
drainage
system.
That
is
a
multi
hundred
thousand
dollar
task.
You
could
do
that
at
this
point.
What's
there
meets
the
town
requirements
and
at
this
point
in
the
game,
it's
it's
frankly,
it's
unreasonable
to
be
asking
the
developer
to
change
all
that.
B
A
A
O
The
Grafton
and
chairman
Commissioners,
my
name,
is
kieron
storn
I'm,
a
full-time
resident
of
Folly
Field
on
the
Hilton
Head
Island,
like
Nicole,
said
Sean
did
see
our
thunder,
so
you'll
have
to
excuse
some
of
what
I
have
here
in
2015,
this
property
was
rezoned
from
recreational
to
Resort
development.
Despite
protests
from
every
surrounding
neighborhood,
it
went
from
zero
density
to
the
highest
density.
According
to
the
state
of
South
Carolina,
a
zoning
ordinance
ensures
that
the
development
fits
in
with
existing
and
future
needs
of
the
community.
O
It
also
states
that
it
prevents
land
overcrowding
avoid
undue
concentration
of
population,
adolescence,
Street
congestion.
This
proposed
development
there's
none
of
the
above,
and
what
only
this
detract
from
the
island.
It
is
so
not
aligned
with
Frasier's
vision
for
this
island
can
I
approach
and
give
you
some
photographs.
If.
O
O
O
The
other
Resorts
Fiddler's
Cove
Island,
Club
Beach
antennas
Etc
kept
the
mature
trees
to
shield
from
public
View
and
dampen
their
appearance.
This
development
wants
to
revise
the
mature
trees,
including
an
osprey
nest
on
Folly
Field
Road.
To
make
room
for
bigger
buildings.
There
are
arborists
report
from
2017
would
have
you
believe
that
every
three
was
already
dead
or
dying,
applying
their
logic,
you
could
state
that
we're
all
dying.
O
The
other
Resorts
Fiddler's
Cove,
Island,
Club,
Beach
and
Tennis
Etc,
have
fenced
perimeters
in
addition
to
providing
security,
this
decongests
pedestrian
traffic.
This
development
does
not
have
a
fence,
despite
it's
been
suggested
by
the
drb.
So
that's
contrary
to
what
your
previous
person
said.
So
if
you
go
back
and
you
look
at
the
notes
from
the
drb,
they
were
looking
for
a
fence
and
then
the
next
meeting
the
developer
came
back
and
they
said
that
they
would
increase
the
the
plantings
along
Holyfield
Road.
O
This
creates
a
safety
issue,
as
people
can
pop
out
of
the
Landscaping
into
the
town's
public
pathway
and
into
the
path
of
oncoming
cyclists
or
worse.
Yet
even
e-cyclists
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
there's
a
little
buffer
between
not
heavily
used
pedestrian
psychopath
and
the
speeding
traffic
along
Folly,
Field
Road
I
mean
in
some
areas
you're
just
looking
at
a
couple
of
feet.
O
Ers
Cove
has
one
entrance:
that's
those
Island
Club
as
a
speech
in
tennis
sea
Cloisters
the
same
this
development
wants
two:
how
will
this
impact
pedestrians
and
cyclists
as
they
attempt
to
enjoy
their
afternoon
stroll
or
cycle?
This
is
only
one.
There
is
only
one
portal
on
Folly
Hill
Road,
so
they
don't
have
the
alternative
path.
So,
basically,
your
cyclists
have
to
use
this
path.
They
want
two
exits
and
then
with
no
fans.
O
O
O
This
is
a
very
different
neighborhood
and
do
a
very
different
Island
from
what
it
was
in
2014..
In
summary,
this
is
the
wrong
thing
in
the
wrong
place
at
the
wrong
time.
This
is
really
a
square
peg
into
a
round
hole.
I
would
respectfully
request
that
the
town
conducted
independent
traffic
study
in
July
of
2023
when
we
actually
have
real
traffic,
independent
Arbors
report
and
the
independent
environmental
study.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
today.
Thank.
C
C
So
this
is
adding
a
tremendous
amount
of
people
that
expect
to
use
Islanders
Beach
Park
as
access
to
the
beach
we're
already
having
a
serious
problem.
I
mean
you
have
eight
other
timeshare
complexes
in
Port,
Royal
Village,
you
have
the
Westin.
You
have
the
Barony,
which
is
another
timeshare
Village
you
have
Islands
links
which
is
up
near
the
front
of
Palmetto
Dunes
and
they're
all
or
Port
Royal
excuse
me
and
they're
all
using
Islanders
Beach
Park
as
access
to
the
beach.
C
When
we
saw
the
plan
for
this
about
a
year
ago,
they
had
put
on
their
plan.
The
developer
had
put
on
their
plan.
This
was
their
access
to
Islanders
beach
park,
so
they
plan
on
another
800
to
a
thousand
people
to
access
this
small
strip
of
beach,
that's
already
being
used
by
so
many
people.
If
you
go
there
during
High
season
and
high
tide,
it
looks
like
the
New
Jersey
Shore
on
that
Beach
and
now
another
800
to
1000.
C
The
town
staff
has
agreed
that
the
facilities
are
being
so
overused
at
Islanders,
Beach,
Park
and
people
from
this
group
are
crossing
the
street
and
walking
down
the
road
where
residents
are
coming
in
to
park
to
go
to
the
beach
and
here's
another
800
to
a
thousand.
And
what
lockouts
mean
is
it
means
it
doubles
the
unit
to
how
many
people
they
can
rent
to,
because
instead
of
one
unit
now
it
becomes
two
units
that
that
they
can
rent
to
two
different
groups
of
people,
so
that
even
increases
the
number
of
people.
C
So
we
agree
we're
residents,
we
don't
live
in
the
neighborhood.
We
drive
to
Islanders
beach
park
because
that's
our
only
beach
access
for
the
people
that
live
in
in
the
North,
End,
Hilton,
Head,
Plantation
and
indigo
run,
and
some
people
in
Port
Royal.
This
is
our
only
beach
access
and
they
want
to
bring
another
800
to
a
thousand
people
to
one
little
strip
of
Beach.
We
ask
that
you
deny
the
whole
project.
A
Thank
you.
It's
not
the
power
of
the
Planning
Commission
to
you
know,
put
it
next
to
any
particular
project
like
this.
It
is
our
job
to
kind
of
evaluate
what
the
proposal
is
and
get
the
feelings
of
the
community
so
that
we
can
get
back
to
the
developers
and
indicate
what
are
the
concerns
of
the
community
and
I.
A
It
is
our
job
today
to
just
get
the
feelings
of
the
community
to
give
us
some
input,
so
we
can
get
back
to
the
developer
of
the
of
the
proposal
and
explain
to
them
the
things
that
are
of
concern
to
the
community
and
see
what,
if
anything,
can
be
done
to
ameliorate
those
or
to
even,
if
necessary,
make
a
change,
but
I
have
walked
the
property
I've
been
down
there.
I've,
looked
at
it
and
driven
around
it
and
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
myself,
but
I'm
going
to
let
my
fellow
Commissioners
erase
the
questions.
A
D
B
B
B
D
A
A
Thank
you,
everybody
be
reminded,
so
we're
talking
about
a
parking
level
and
then
four
residential
stories
and
multiple
developments
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear.
That's
all
thank
you
and
then
so.
Some
of
the
buildings
are
three,
and
some
are
four.
Is
that
right,
yeah,
right
and
phase?
One
is
three
and
then
phase
two
goes
to
four
stories
of
residents.
A
N
F
J
J
It's
almost
like
okay
town
get
get
the
workforce
housing
so
that
we
can
accommodate
this
volume,
but,
but
maybe
that's
an
editorial
I
think
the
cat
was
out
of
the
bag.
When
we
went
zoning
from
from
zero
density
to
the
maximum
density
in
in
just
one
Fell
Swoop,
how
do
you
do
that?
How
does
that
happen?
I'm,
not
sure,
but
but
it
seems
like
that's
when
if
we
want
to
control
growth,
that's
that's
when
you
do
it
I
I,
don't
think
we
can
talk
about
that
now.
J
It
sounds
like
this
is
after
the
fact
for
for
this
development,
but
but
I
am
concerned
that
that
all
the
comments
that
we
read
were
hey,
we're,
neighbors
and-
and
this
is
the
neighborhood
we
bought
into
and
now
you
know
this-
this
huge
development
is
going
to
be
in
our
neighborhood,
I
I.
Think
it's
really
important
for
the
town
to
listen
to
neighbors
I
mean
this
is
who
you
represent.
J
Why
can't
we
get
it
right
for
those
people
that
don't
live
in
a
gated
community
and
it
seems
like
what
certainly
what
we
heard
from
all
the
comments
are
from
resonance,
that
that
don't
feel
that
protection
and-
and
that
concerns
me
and
I-
think
a
lot
of
concern,
if
not
for
this
development.
For
for
future
developments.
A
A
Even
though
there
is
access
just
down
the
road
to
The
Islander
Beach
that
that
fence
might
solve
some
Community
problems.
In
terms
of
you
know,
access
and
maybe
walking
through
other
people's
property
to
get
to
the
beach
from
such
a
project
in
terms
of
the
and
that
the
roof
lines
and
setbacks
are
within
the
LMO,
Building
height
is
also
I
would
also
encourage
the
developers
to
to
maybe
read
these
same
public
comments
that
we've
got
that
have
come
through
the
portal
and
see
what
could
be.
A
You
know
offered
to
the
community
in
terms
of
crosswalks
and
things
that
nature
that
would
you
know,
help
the
community
adjust
to
such
a
project.
I
mean
it's
private
property
and,
and
there
are
limitations
to
what
government
can
do
to
private
property,
but
at
the
same
time
we
want
to
make
sure
it
fits
within
the
community
and
and
and
that
your
your
neighbors
in
the
community
are
going
to
be
more
comfortable
with
the
project.
If
a
certain
issues
are
addressed,
let's
see
here,
there's
you
know.
A
Safety
security
issues
and
fencing
might
help
in
that
regard
as
well,
and
also
perhaps
Landscaping
buffers
that
could
serve
as
fence
as
well
as
a
physical
fence
in
terms
of
a
traffic
study.
I
wanted
to
ask
you
a
tester.
Is
there
been
a
traffic
study
on
this
particular
thing
or
environmental
impact
study
of
any
kind.
A
B
Sir,
in
connection
with
the
rezoning
of
the
property
back
in
2015-
yes,
there
was
a
traffic
study
done
in
order
to
prove
that
we
didn't
do
have
to
do
a
traffic
study.
So
the
increase
in
density
isn't
sufficient
enough
to
require
a
traffic
impact
analysis,
but
we
did
it
anyway,
just
to
prove
that
we
didn't
have
to
do
it
so.
A
Fair
enough,
sir,
thank
you
all
right.
The
purpose
of
our
visit,
yes
ma'am
I'll,
get
to
you
in
just
a
second.
The
purpose
of
our
our
thing
here
today
is
to
allow
us
to
hear
from
the
community
and
also
to
make
the
the
developers
aware
of
what
is
going
on
in
the
community
what's
being
said,
and
what
maybe
might
need
to
be
addressed
with
the
community
and
even
going
back
with
the
design
and
review
board
man-
and
you
have
a
comment-
please
identify
yourself.
P
I
P
A
Well,
that
will,
yes,
that
will
be
addressed,
I
assure
you
if
it
hasn't
already
all
right,
any
other
comments
from
the
Commissioners.
If
not,
we
appreciate
the
the
comments
that
have
been
made
both
here
today
and
also
with
regard
to
the
comments
that
were
sent
in
through
the
portal,
and
we
will
work
with
that
town
staff
and
Missy.
Do
you
have
something
you
want
to
add
and
Nicole.
G
Sure
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
we
did
look
up
the
drb
approval
and
one
of
the
conditions
that
was
identified
was
to
study.
Adding
events
along
Folly
Field
Road,
with
the
suggestion
of
a
pierce
brick
was,
was
in
their
notice
of
approval,
so
the
drb
did
discuss
offense
and
suggested
it.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Nicole
did
you
have
anything
you
want
to
add
on
this?
Okay,
all
right
with
that
in
mind,
we
will
take
that
under
advisement
and
hope
that
the
developers
will
as
well
next
on
our
agenda.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
find
my
agenda
here
we're
going
to
go
back
to
the
LMO
amendments.
Section
B
and
oh.
N
N
So
I'll
be
presenting
the
proposed
LMO
amendments,
which
is
considered
tier
one
or
known
as
tier
one
at
the
November
at
the
November
1st
2022
meeting,
the
LMO
committee
recommended
approval
of
the
proposed
amendments.
At
that
meeting,
the
committee
again
voiced
concerns
about
the
proposed
revisions
to
the
dwelling
unit
definition.
N
They
questioned
why
there
is
a
need
to
change
the
current
definition
and
had
concerns
that
the
proposed
revisions
might
create
complications
with
other
Provisions
in
the
LMO.
After
after
additional
staff
review,
it
was
decided
that
the
current
definition
is
sufficient
and
a
determination
about
what
constitutes
a
separate
dwelling
unit
is
what
needs
to
be
updated,
and
so
that
proposed
amendment
was
pulled
from
this
set.
N
N
So
the
First
Amendment,
that's
in
your
packet,
is
the
proposed
removal
of
Staff
granted
waivers.
This
was
proposed
by
staff
and
is
to
remove
all
Provisions
allowing
staff
granted
waivers.
It
was
decided.
It
was
more
appropriate
for
a
waiver
or
variant
from
the
code
to
go
to
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
for
requests
for
a
variance.
So
in
your
packet
on
pages
one
through
seven.
It
shows
all
the
sections
where
the
language
is
either
proposed
to
be
removed.
N
A
N
The
first
one
deals
with
the
properties
functioning
together
waiver.
It
dealt
with
adjacent
you
setback
and
buffers,
and
it
was
amended
so
that
there's
no
adjacent
you
setback
or
buffer
requirement
for
non-single
Family
Properties,
when
the
proposed
development
and
the
adjacent
development
function
as
a
single
development
due
to
having
either
shared
parking
connecting
vehicular
access
or
shared
stormwater
facilities,
and
the
recording
of
a
cross-axis
easement
agreement
between
the
two
properties
will
be
required.
N
N
One
thing
I
did
want
to
note.
Is
that
number
three
for
those
of
you
who
do
have
the
Pack
in
front
of
you
number
three
under
J
on
page
five,
when
I
was
reading
through
this
the
other
day,
I
did
notice
that
the
added
language
is
shown
in
the
wrong
spot.
It
should
be
inserted
at
the
end
of
the
fourth
line
before
the
dash.
Instead
about
the
end
of
that
paragraph,
so
that
will
be
fixed
going
forward.
N
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
to
y'all's
attention,
and
then
the
third
revision
deals
with
the
drainage
design
standards.
These
were
amended
to
remove
the
option
for
the
peak
discharge
requirement
to
be
waived,
but
language
was
added
that
states
that
the
peak
discharge
requirement
doesn't
need
to
be
met
if
the
applicant
demonstrates
that
they
have
a
suitable
means
of
flow
into
a
downstream
title
discharge,
Point
accessible
by
means
of
a
recorded
permanent
storm
drainage
easement
through
drainage
infrastructure.
N
That
will
convey
the
peak
discharge
from
the
100
Year
storm
without
any
adverse
input
impacts
on
Downstream
properties.
So
those
were
the
three
changes
that
deal
with
staff
granted
waivers
the
rest
of
the
list.
That's
up
on
your
screen
were
just
where
staff
struck
through
the
language
and
removed
that
provision.
N
Okay,
the
next
Amendment
for
those
that
have
the
packet
on
page
eight
is
to
allow
variances
from
all
sections
of
the
LMO
other
than
for
use,
density
and
height,
and
not
just
the
sections
that
are
listed
in
the
LMO.
Currently,
when
this
initial
list
was
presented
to
the
public
planning
committee,
use
and
density
were
listed
as
the
only
Provisions
you
can
not
get
a
variance
for
it
was
recommended
by
a
member
of
the
public
planning
committee.
A
J
N
Okay,
the
next
Amendment
on
page
eight
of
your
packet
as
well,
is
to
allow
outdoor
screen
bike
storage
in
the
LC
and
CC
zoning
districts,
which
are
the
only
two
districts
that
allow
bike
businesses,
but
not
outdoor
storage
of
them.
This
amendment
is
a
recommendation
from
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
as
a
result
of
variance
requests
pertaining
to
bike
businesses.
Over
the
past
few
years,
staff
is
also
proposing
more
specificity
related
to
the
screening
requirements
and
what
constitutes
outdoor
storage
as
it
relates
to
Bicycle
businesses.
All.
A
N
A
N
N
N
N
N
The
Landscaping
is
often
often
damaged
during
construction
of
the
homes,
so
this
amendment
will
allow
a
performance
guarantee
or
bond
for
a
specific
period
of
time
where
landscaping
and
tree
planting
is
deferred
due
to
inappropriate
weather
conditions
for
planting
or
the
likelihood
that
the
trees
will
be
damaged
during
additional
construction
activity.
Related
to
the
subdivision,
fair.
A
N
This
next
amendment
is
recommended
by
a
business
owner
and
is
on
page
11
and
12
of
the
packet
is
to
amend
the
definition
of
changeable
copy,
as
it
relates
to
signs
to
allow
signs
to
be
changed
manually
or
electronically.
Currently,
signs
are
not
permitted
to
be
changed
electronically,
and
this
would
allow
a
business
owner,
in
particular,
a
business
owner.
A
gas
station
had
asked
because
of
short
staffing.
N
If
there
was
one
person
that's
working
at
the
facility
and
they
need
to
go
out
and
change
their
their
gas
prices,
they
would
have
to
lock
the
store
go
out
manually
change
it.
So
this
would
allow
them
to
change
it
electronically
inside
the
store
and
help
them
function
better.
So
the
sign
Provisions
are
proposed
to
be
amended
as
well
to
allow
the
signs
to
be
changed.
Electronically
and
there'll
be
limitations
on
the
frequency
and
timing.
So
it
won't
be
something
that's
like
a
continual
change
and
a
moving
sign
to
address
any
concerns
with
that.
N
So,
for
example,
if
pre-development
grade
is
12
feet
for
a
non-residential
development,
you
wouldn't
want
to
measure
height
from
11
feet.
You
would
want
to
measure
from
12
feet
since
it's
higher,
so
Heights
measure
from
11
or
13
feet,
depending
on,
if
it's
residential
commercial
and
this
just
added
in
the
pre-development
grade
provision,
there's
also
several
sections
in
the
LMO
that
still
mention
height
being
measured
from
the
BFE
base
flood
elevation.
These
sections
were
unintentionally
left
out
or
overlooked
when
changes
were
made
to
the
LML
last
year,
when
the
new
flood
maps
were
adopted.
N
This
next
amendment
is
on
page
15
of
your
packet
and
is
recommended
by
staff.
The
application
requirements
for
minor
subdivisions
states
that
it
requires
all
the
same
requirements
for
a
major
subdivision,
with
the
exception
of
owner's
consent,
open
space,
dedication
and
phasing
plan,
and
this
amendment
will
remove
the
exemption
for
owner's
consent,
as
that
should
be
required
for
all
application
types.
So
this
is
just
kind
of
another
cleanup
Amendment.
N
Currently
Lots
in
a
platted
subdivision
can
be
combined
in
a
way
that
results
in
an
increase
in
density
or
additional
Watts.
The
proposed
language
requires
that
deviations
to
a
previously
platted
subdivision,
a
residential
subdivision,
will
require
a
public
hearing
and
approval
by
the
Planning
Commission.
N
We've
also
added
criteria
that
the
Planning
Commission
can
use
when
reviewing
these
requests,
and
this
amendment
does
include
Provisions
for
public
notice
requirements
in
Chapter
2
as
well.
Fair
enough
and
that's
all
I
have
again
staff's
recommending
that
the
Planning
Commission
forward.
These
amendments
to
Town
Council,
with
a
recommendation
of
approval.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Nicole.
There
were
two
things
I
wanted
to
bring
to
my
fellow
commissioner's
attention.
If
I
can
go
back
and
find
my
scribbles
here,
okay,
one
thing
in
particular,
and
that
is
with
regard
to
the
variances
on
height
for
buildings,
I,
would
move
that
we
approve
these
LMO
amendments
and
ask
that
they
be
forwarded
to
towns
Council
for
consideration,
but
I
would
also
ask
Town
Council
to
carefully
consider
the
building
height
variances
for
architectural
reasons
and
maybe
come
up
with
some
some
particular
standard
or
ratio.
A
We're
in
we
could
make
our
buildings.
You
know
architecturally,
stylish
and
and
not
square
blocks
all
the
time
because
of
the
building
height
limits
that
the
Town
Council
might
want
to
consider
some
flexibility
in
that
variances
Amendment
to
the
LMO,
but
other
than
that.
I
would
move
that
these
be
with
that
Proviso
that
they
carefully
consider
the
variances
on
height.
That
I
would
move
that
this
be
moved
on
to
Town
Council
for
their
consideration.
Is
there
a
second
thank
you
Mr
darians,
any
other
comments
or
questions
before
we
vote.
A
Q
N
Q
And
the
other,
the
other
one
I
wanted
to
address
was
the
height
issue
I,
like
some
of
the
stuff
that
was
said
about
you,
know
the
architecture
maybe
having
these
buildings.
You
know,
have
some
architecture,
so
they're
not
flat
roofs,
but
can
there
be
some
kind
of
wording
and
a
provision
that
it
is
only
for
architecture,
because
I
can
see
where,
if
we
allow
them
to
do
this
extra
feat,
I
can
see
somebody
coming
in
with
our
building
of
doing
some
kind
of
a
you
know.
A
I
appreciate
that
that
was
the
gist
of
my
comments
as
well
that
the
Town
Council
might
want
to
consider
some
sort
of
a
of
a
a
stricter
Rule,
and
that
makes
sense
so
that
we
don't
have
a
bunch
of
square
buildings
on
the
island
from
here
from
this
point
forward,
all
right
with
that
is
there
a
vote
all
in
favor
of
moving
this
on
the
Town
Council.
With
the
with
my
one
caution,
thank
you.
We
have
a
unanimous
note
on
that
issue.
All
right.
Thank
you,
Nicole!
Thank
you.
A
R
Afternoon,
Johanna
Pfister
Deputy,
fire
chief.
This
was
one
we
brought
before
you
previously
and
we
were
asked
to
reconsider
the
name.
We
went
back
to
the
applicant
and
we
asked
if
we
could
use
a
variation
of
orange,
so
we
are
moving
forward
with
orange
Trace,
so
they
are
just
a
small
driveway
off
of
orange
Flame.
R
A
A
R
I
will
be
presenting
this
one
as
well,
so
this
one
we
are
proposing
to
two
street
names:
Sam
got
cut
off,
but
Sandy
Oaks,
Drive
and
Sandy
Oaks
Lane.
They
are
still
in
the
process
of
getting
approval.
So
we
moved
forward
with
two
names
in
case.
Something
changes
that
we
have
the
second
street
name.
Should
we
need
it?
It
is
a
t.
R
It
has
a
it's
a
t
road,
so
I'm
going
to
show
you
that
in
a
moment,
but
we
may,
depending
on
how
the
subdivision
ends
up,
we
may
only
use
Sandy
Oaks
Drive,
but
we
may
need
it
to
Penn
Sandy
Oaks
Lane
as
well
in
case
there
is
some
deviation,
so
the
property
is
off
of
Jonesville
Road.
That
is
a
picture
of
the
parcel
you
can
see.
It
is
next
to
Walking,
Horse
and
across
from
the
paddocks.
R
J
R
So,
typically,
if
that
is
what
there
are
kind
of
two
different
philosophies,
there
are
people
who
want
the
names
to
be
totally
different.
There
are
people
who
want
them
to
be
derivatives
of
the
same
thing
going
forward.
We
are
making
sure
that
if
they
are
the
same
Sandy
Oaks
Drive
in
Sandy,
Oaks
Lane,
that
the
numbering
is
totally
different
because
we
do
have
some
subdivisions
where
previously
in
addressing
they
gave
the
same
numbers.
So
it
is
somewhat
confusing,
but
so
we
would
not
not
they
would
not.
R
There
would
not
be
a
two
Sandy
Oaks
Lane
na2
Sandy
Oaks
Drive,
the
numbering.
We
would
start
them
differently,
so
I
in
areas
where
the
streets
are
together.
Some
of
the
developers
want
the
names
to
be
the
same,
and
we
wouldn't
do
it
like.
We
wouldn't
have
a
Sandy,
Oaks
Lane
here
and
a
Sandy
Oaks
Drive
across
the
island,
because
then
it
would
be
confusing,
but
because
they
are
a
part
of
the
same
subdivision.
We
allow
them
to
use
a
derivative
and.
A
A
A
A
We're
now
going
to
talk
about
some
commission
business
in
that
we
have
several
vacancies
on
the
Planning
Commission
at
this
point
and
I've
had
a
chance
to
talk
with
the
mayor
and
the
town
manager.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
have
to
make
some
some
changes
here.
Obviously
we
have
to
replace
Mr
our
mayor
as
the
who
was
vice
chairman
here
on
this
commission
and
so
I'm
going
to
nominate,
Mr,
Mark,
O'neill
and
I
know.
E
A
We
have
a
second
over
here.
Is
there
any
other
nominations
from
the
commission?
If
not
all
in
favor
of
electing
Mr
O'neill?
Is
our
new
Vice
chairman
he's
a
unanimous
vote,
five,
zip
and
now
also
as
I
mentioned
to
members
of
the
commission.
Earlier
today
we
have
vacancies
on
some
of
our
planning.
This
is
by
Chairman's
report.
For
today
we
have
some
vacancies.
A
So
I've
asked
Mr
O'neill
to
also
serve
as
chair
of
the
CIP
committee
as
of
today
and
Mr
commissioner
darienzo,
to
serve
as
chair
of
the
LMO
committee
as
of
today
and
Mr
Campbell,
to
serve
as
Vice
chair
of
the
LMO
committee.
As
of
today
and
Mr
hens
to
please
chair
the
rules
of
procedures
committee
as
of
today
and
Tom
and
I
noted
that
you
I
am
an
ex-officio
member
of
that
particular
committee
and
in
order
to
have
a
full
compliment,
you
have
to
invite
me
to
serve
on
that
committee
as
a.
A
Invited
well,
you
have
to
do
it
in
writing,
unfortunately,
and
copy
members
of
the
staff.
So
you
can
invite
me
to
be
a
voting.
Member
of
your
committee
and
I
would
be
glad
to
serve
as
your
Vice
chair
for
rules
and
procedure.
As
I
say,
these
are
due
to
the
vacancies
that
we
have.
We
have
to
make
all
these
appointments
and
I
take
it.
You've
all
agreed
to
these
commitments
and
Mr
O'neill's
did
send
me
a
a
note
earlier
today.
A
A
G
G
Obviously
now
the
work
volume
for
the
Planning
Commission
has
increased
and
we're
reviewing
all
of
the
subdivisions
and
major
dprs
for
information
purposes,
we're
working
on
an
LMO
Amendment
set
that
will
come
through
where
it
will
be
review
and
approval
by
the
Planning
Commission
that
should
come
through
Sometime
Late
spring
early
summer
and
we'd
like
to
look
at
a
possible
Amendment
to
the
rules
through
the
rules
of
procedure
committee,
to
look
at
going
back
to
two
meetings
per
month.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
your
radar.