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1. Call to Order
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3. Roll Call
4. Approval of the Agenda
5. Approval of the Minutes
a. Rescheduled Meeting - March 9, 2022
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7. Unfinished Business
a. Consideration of Proposed Ordinance 2022-06
amending, Title 10 of the Municipal Code of the Town of
Hilton Head Island, South Carolina, by Adding Chapter 2
Entitled "Short-Term Rentals"
8. Adjournment
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A
second
second,
all
those
signify
by
raising
your
right
hand,
please
thank
you
very
much.
It
approves
endlessly
approval
of.
I
beg
your
pardon
appearance
by
citizens.
It's
my
understanding
that
there
are
no
citizens
who
signed
up
for
a
general
comment,
but
you
may
have
comments
after
the
discussion.
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F
I
have
an
example
of
a
complaint
portal
and
a
complaint
tracking
system
and
then
we'll
re
we'll
consider
the
first
recommendation.
Once
we've
discussed
all
that,
then
we
have
the
other
issues
of
concern
which
we've
consolidated
into
two
areas
of
focus
included
in
your
packet
as
a
preliminary
framework
for
that
first
area
of
focus
and
we'll
consider
the
second
recommendation,
which
is
your
response
to
that
first
area
of
focus
in
that
framework,
then
I'll
review.
The
preliminary
plan
for
the
second
area
of
focus
and
the
next
steps
in
the
project.
F
We'll
start
by
taking
a
look
at
the
two
recommendations
that
will
be
before
you
this
morning:
the
first
that
town
council
review
and
approved
a
draft
ordinance
to
establish
performance
standards
for
short-term
rentals
and
the
second
that
the
committee
support
the
preliminary
framework
for
the
examination
of
high
occupancy
short
term
rentals
and
high
floor
area
ratio.
Single
family
homes.
F
Our
project
purpose
statement
has
guided
the
project
so
far.
We
are
in
the
midst
of
the
project.
This
is
not
the
end
of
this
project,
but
as
a
resort
area,
we
have
numerous
short-term
rentals
and
they
contribute
significantly
to
our
economy.
We
all
understand
the
importance
of
the
hospitality
economy
to
our
island,
but
the
lack
of
an
ordinance
has
led
to
an
imbalance
between
residential
and
resort
districts
and
the
elimination
of
some
of
those
long-term
single-family
neighborhoods
that
give
our
island
character
and
provide
a
place
for
our
residents
to
live.
F
So
again
we
are
in
the
midst
of
our
project,
not
at
the
end,
but
this
was
our.
This
shows
the
initial
project
path.
This
includes
the
ordinance
that
you're
looking
at
today.
You
see
here
we're
at
program
adoption
phase,
which
includes
adopting
the
proposed
ordinance,
creating
an
implementation
plan,
issuing
a
request
for
proposals
for
software.
F
So,
to
start
with
our
first
recommendation,
the
town
council
review
and
approved
a
draft
ordinance
to
establish
performance
standards
for
short-term
rentals,
and
I
want
to
note,
from
the
start
before
we
review
the
draft
ordinance
that
curtis
coltrane,
the
town
attorney,
has
reviewed
the
draft
ordinance
as
presented
in
your
packet
and
has
approved.
It
is
comfortable
with
its
legal
viability.
F
So
in
reviews,
in
reviewing
the
revised
draft
ordinance,
I'd
like
to
give
you
a
summary
of
the
revisions
that
were
presented
to
you
and
recommended
by
you
on
march,
9th,
followed
by
a
summary
of
the
town
attorney
town,
attorney's,
revisionc
ordinance,
and
then
I
have
each
section
of
the
draft
ordinance
in
the
presentation,
some
of
which
you
might
want
to
spend
more
time
or
less
just
please,
let
me
know,
and
we
have
a
lot
to
go
through
today.
I
don't
want
to
slow
you
down.
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Those
changes
included
revising
the
definitions,
specifying
the
procedures
related
to
short-term
rental
permits,
adding
language
regarding
licenses
permits
fees
and
taxes,
adding
language
regarding
violations
and
adding
specifications
about
violations
and
the
process
for
the
suspension,
revocation
of
short-term
rental
permits
in
the
appeals
process
and
as
we
go
through
the
sections.
I
want
to
mention
that
in
the
packet
presentation
in
the
information
packet
didn't
include
the
sections
of
the
municipal
code
that
are
referenced
in
the
ordinance.
F
Those
are
included
in
my
presentation
and
the
updated
presentation
will
be
available
online
for
everyone,
and
I
apologize
for
the
omission.
If
I
send
you
something
in
the
future,
if
staff
sends
you
something
in
the
future,
it'll
include
those
you
don't
have
to
dig
through
the
municipal
code
and
find
those
starting
with
definitions.
We
have
definitions
for
owner
person
who
owns
the
property
short
term
lessee
the
person
occupying
it
for
30
days
or
less
short-term
rental,
a
property
that's
used
for
short-term
rental.
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F
The
application
fee
will
be
set
each
year
by
town
council
and
the
annual
budget
ordinance,
and
I
want
to
note
that,
particularly
because
the
packet
information
includes
a
proposed
fee.
That's
if
you
vote
on
the
ordinance
today,
you're
not
voting
on
the
fee.
You're
voting
in
the
ordinance.
The
fee
will
be
set
later
by
town
council
as
part
of
the
budget
ordinance,
so
that
can
be
adjusted
year
to
year
and
I'll
speak
more
about
the
fee.
Later.
F
There
is
a
section
license,
permits
payments
and
fees
and
taxes
which
states
you
net.
You
need
to
obtain
a
valid
increment
short
valid
and
current
short-term
rental
permit
and
a
business
license
prior
to
operating
short-term
rental,
and
you
need
to
pay
all
applicable
fees
and
taxes
associated
with
that
to
operate.
Your
short-term
rental.
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F
Moving
into
general
regulations
for
short-term
rentals,
starting
with
the
fact
that
the
owner
or
their
agent,
should
be
available
to
respond
to
a
complaint
or
matter
related
to
the
operation
or
behavior
of
any
lessee,
and
that
they
should
be
available
by
telephone
at
all
times
during
the
short-term
rental
period
and
capable
of
being
of
being
physically
present
at
the
property
or
taking
other
responsive
action.
Within
an
hour
of
notification-
and
I
know
we
received
quite
a
bit
of
comments
and
concern
about
that
requirement.
I
just
want
to
make
a
clarification
or
a
few
clarifications.
F
First,
every
complaint
does
not
require
the
owner
to
or
the
agent
to
respond
to,
the
property.
The
ordinance
states
that
they
have
to
make
some
sort
of
response.
So
if
we
receive
a
complaint,
the
owner
or
the
agent
needs
to
reach
out
to
the
complainant,
or
excuse
me
to
the
lessee
and
notify
them
of
the
complaint,
some
sort
of
responsive
action.
F
Now,
if
that
response
of
action,
isn't
something,
for
example,
if
there
is
not
enough,
if
there
is
a
let's
say,
a
concern
about
trash
that
comes
in
and
the
owner
isn't
able
to
resolve
that
violation
within
an
hour.
That's
not
a
violation
of
the
ordinance,
the
owner
contacts,
the
lessee
and
says
when
you
get
back
to
your
unit,
you're
out
of
the
beach
today,
when
you
get
back
to
your
unit,
make
sure
that
you
pull
in
the
trash
cans
or
whatever.
F
F
F
The
only
violation
would
be
if
the
owner
doesn't
respond
at
all
to
a
complaint
that
would
be
subject
to
the
town
following
up
further
investigating
the
complaint.
Is
the
complaint
valid?
What
was
the
nature
of
the
complaint?
Was
there
a
reason
the
owner
didn't
respond
and
if
there's
a
lack
of
entire
lack
of
response
by
the
owner
or
agent,
or
attempt
to
resolve
that
issue
that
would
be
subject
to
further
code
enforcement
action,
including
a.
F
And
that
includes
renters
or
or
owners
that
the
initial
appearance
of
the
citation
is
required
within
30
days,
it's
similar
to
a
traffic
ticket.
You
need
to
respond
to
that
citation.
You
can
say.
I'm
guilty
you're
not
guilty
you're
judged
by
the
court
based
on
the
evidence
and
then
you're
either
convicted
or
found
to
be
not
guilty.
G
F
The
owner
or
agent's
contact
information
needs
to
be
displayed
in
the
unit
so
that
if
the
guest
has
a
concern
they
can
get
in
touch
with
the
person
responsible
regarding
safety
requirements,
there
should
be
fully
operational
or
operable.
Excuse
me,
smoking
carbon
monoxide
detectors
in
each
unit
and
a
fire
extinguisher.
F
And
there
should
be
unobstructed
escape
routes
from
the
unit
and
just
regarding
safety.
I
would
just
want
to
mention
there's
a
question
about
inspections
and
we'll
look
at
in
the
fee
table.
That's
in
your
packet,
you
can
see
some
communities
require
an
annual
inspection
of
the
units
and
when
staff
initially
discuss
this,
we
discuss
with
the
bureau
of
fire
prevention
and
the
fire
rescue
department.
F
What
the
the
idea
of
annual
inspections.
Currently
they
don't
have
the
capacity
to
inspect,
let's
say
approximately
10
000
units
on
an
annual
basis.
We
discussed
it
most
of
the
well.
The
regulations
that
and
the
kind
of
attack
that
we've
taken
in
recommendations
is
that
the
owner
verifies
that
they
are
meeting
the
requirements.
So
that's
similar
to
the
owner,
verifying
that
they
will
notify
guests
of
the
total
number
of
parking
spaces.
The
owner
will
verify
that
they
will
notify
prospective
renters
that
they
are
meeting
safety
or
what
safety
equipment
is
available.
F
So
that's
in
line
with
what
the
town
is
recommending
most
communities
from
what
I've
seen
in
my
research
require
an
affidavit,
not
an
inspection.
Some
communities
do
require
an
inspection
if
there
is
direction
from
the
committee
and
consensus
from
the
committee
that
you
would
like
us
to
research,
what
resources
would
be
required
for
annual
inspections
of
short-term
rentals
we'd
be
happy
to
do
that.
Research
and
present
that
number
to
you
and
that
would
be
included
in
the
the
fee
requirement.
That's
in
part
of
the
budget
ordinance.
F
Point
g
here
I
just
want
to
note
previously-
and
I
mentioned
that
previously
we
said
that
there
needs
to
be
either
a
fence
or
a
screen
enclosure
or
a
pool
alarm
for
swimming
pools
or
hot
tubs
that
are
available
to
renters.
What
we
instead
are
requiring
is
that
the
owner
notify
prospective
renters
of
the
safety
equipment
that's
available.
F
The
one
modification
we
might
want
to
consider
is
to
add
the
words
in
writing.
She'll
notify
in
writing
I'll
prescribe
perspective
short
term
lessees
of
the
existence
of
any
swimming
pool
or
hot
tub.
We
can
also
include
that
language
in
the
actual
permit
that
folks
submit,
I
think,
would
be
equally
as
valid,
but
that's
up
to
the
determination
of
the
committee
and
for
your
consideration.
F
F
There's
a
company
called
noise
aware,
which
is
similar,
I
think,
to
kind
of
an
alexa
type
product
that
monitors
noise
levels.
You
can
have
it
inside
the
rental
or
outside
the
rental,
and
you
can
measure
decibel
levels
and
if
it
reaches
a
certain
decibel,
the
owner
will
be
notified.
The
owner
then,
can
contact
the
renter
and
say
it
sounds
like
you're
kind
of
having
a
party
in
the
house.
What's
the
situation,
there
are
other
communities.
F
I
think
that
are
one
community
in
florida.
That
is
requiring
that.
I
would
not
suggest
that
we
require
that,
but
there's
another
community
big
bear
california
that
offers
a
a
discount
on
the
short-term
rental
permit
fee
if
folks
use
that
product
now
both
of
these
are
very
new,
the
products
are
new
themselves
and
and
those
the
discount
is
a
new
program.
F
So
staff
would
want
to
investigate
that
to
see
if
it's
successful,
to
see
how
that's
administered
before
making
a
recommendation
about
that
in
the
future,
but
that
wouldn't
be
a
requirement
but
more
to
the
point
in
enforcement.
If
there
is
an
issue
where
owners
are
having
trouble,
keeping,
you
know
having
repeated
guests
who
are
noisy
code
enforcement
can
mention.
Where
are
you
aware
of
these
products?
You
know
we've
talked
to
these
folks.
We
wouldn't
recommend
a
specific
product,
but
we
would
make
them
aware
of
the
product
because
they
are
fairly
new.
F
Okay,
moving
on
to
trash
regulations,
the
owner,
then
the
agent
has
to
maintain
a
designated
trash
storage
area
that
is
fenced
or
screened
from
view
of
public
streets
in
the
property,
and
they
have
to
display
instructions
for
trash
disposal.
So
that
folks
know.
Here's
where
you
put
your
trash
the
pickup
times
make
sure
that
they
bring
the
trash
cans
in
after
they've,
been
emptied
and
make
sure
they're
secure
from
pests.
F
Regarding
parking
regulations,
an
important
note
is
that
a
lot
of
short-term
rentals
on
the
island
are
located
in
communities
that
offer
24-hour
private
security
personnel
that
are
available
to
resolve
parking
complaints
and
violations
for
those
properties.
These
the
following
standards
are
not
applicable.
F
One
of
the
questions
that
we
have
is
what
what's
to
prevent
someone
from
paving
their
entire
front
yard
and
just
having
a
parking
lot
effectively
in
their
house.
Well,
we
still
have
lml
requirements
for
pervious
and
impervious
surfaces
and
buffers,
whether
you're
in
an
overlay
district
or
not,
that
that
will
limit
to
some
extent
the
amount
of
parking
that
you
can
put
on
a
site.
Now
some
folks
may
put
parking
in
an
area
that
other
folks
may
not
agree
with,
but
that's
also
true
for
owner
occupied
properties.
F
The
owner
must
notify
all
prospective
renters
of
the
maximum
number
of
vehicles
permitted
on
the
property
before
they
run.
So
hopefully
this
will
eliminate
the
confusion
of
folks
showing
up
with
two
extra
vehicles
that
there's
no
room.
For
and
again
we
removed
the
requirement
for
a
parking
pass
system,
but
we
did
eliminate
or
specify
that
all
vehicles
must
be
parked
on
site.
You
can't
have
any
off-site
parking
for
the
short-term
rental.
F
This
will
include
educational
materials,
so
not
just
materials
about
the
regulations,
but
welcome
to
the
island.
Are
you
aware
of
you
know:
sea
turtles
lights
out
for
sea
turtles,
any
kind
of
additional
information
that
we
want
to
have
that's
not
just
welcoming,
but
we're
excusing,
not
just
about
requirements,
but
also
welcoming
and
we'll
provide
that
in
a
variety
of
options.
You
know
some
folks
expressed
a
desire
to
have
a
booklet
with
all
the
materials
in
one
place.
You
know
we'll
provide
as
many
products
as
as
we
can
to
provide
options
for
folks.
F
I
F
F
F
F
Okay,
an
additional
section
of
the
musical
code-
that's
referenced
in
the
proposed
ordinance
is
911,
it's
unlawful
to
do
any
act
which
offends
endangers
injures
or
impairs
the
health
safety
life
of
any
individual
and
that
any
such
act
is
hereby
declared
a
nuisance.
So
to
clarify
that's
the
definition
of
nuisance.
F
Returning
back
to
the
draft
ordinance,
the
suspension,
revocation
of
the
short-term
rental
permit,
this
mirrors
you'll
see
some
of
the
language
that
we
just
saw.
The
short-term
rental
permit
was
mistakenly
improperly
issued.
The
owner
breached
a
condition
of
the
short-term
rental
permit.
It
was
obtained
through
fraud,
misrepresentation
of
also
misleading
statement.
F
F
Regarding
the
hearing,
the
hearing
will
be
held
by
town
council
within
30
days
after
the
delivery
of
that
notice.
It
will
be
held
during
a
regular
special
meeting
of
council
and
at
the
hearing,
the
party
shall
have
the
right
to
be
represented
by
counsel,
to
present
testimony
and
evidence
and
to
cross-examine
witnesses.
F
The
effective
date
of
the
ordinance
is
january,
1st
2023.
So
that
gives
staff
enough
time
to
develop
an
implementation
plan
to
enact
the
ordinance
that
includes
requesting
funding
in
the
budget
for
fiscal
year,
2023,
which
I
mentioned.
That
includes
the
permit
fee,
creating
contracts
with
service
providers
installing
and
testing
a
software
package
and
executing
a
communication
code
enforcement
and
education
plan.
F
So,
in
a
practical
sense,
we're
looking
to
make
sure
that
we
have
sufficient
staff
on
the
registration
portion.
We've
got
10
000
properties.
We've
got
some
folks
who
are
less
comfortable
with
computers
than
others.
So
we
need
to
be
sure
that
they
have
enough
services
to
understand
that
a
permit
is
required
how
they
comply
with
the
permit
to
make
sure
that
they
don't
have
incomplete
information.
F
F
I
F
In
your
packet,
there
was
an
example
of
a
complaint
portal
which
I
can
bring
up
and
run
through
if
you're
interested.
I
know
that
we've
been
talking
for
quite
some
time.
I'd
be
happy
to
go
through
that
or
skip
ahead.
Let's,
let's
wait
on
that.
Yes,
sir,
and
we
there's
a
complaint
tracking
system
that
we
would
have
attachment
e
in
your
meeting.
F
Packet
shows
what
that
would
look
like
on
the
on
the
town
side
and
all
the
information
that
we've
recorded
date
and
time
of
the
information
recording
of
the
call
address
of
the
subject
property
category
of
the
complaint.
All
that
information
will
be
available
to
the
town
and
recorded
over
time
so
that
we
know
you
know
if
there's
an
issue
with
the
property.
We'll
have
a
record
of
that.
We'll
have
all
the
information
available.
F
We
can
also
make
sure
that
complaints
are
valid,
that
people
aren't
using
the
system
to
harass
their
neighbors
or
a
certain
property
owner.
We
can
also
put
that
information
on
a
map
for
you
so
that
you
can
look
at
it
and
see
where
the
heat
maps
of
violations
that
part
of
the
software
package
also
includes,
as
I
mentioned,
just
tracking,
where
short-term
rentals
are
over
time,
their
location,
so
that
we
can
make
some
decisions
about
phase
two
okay,
so
there
you
can
see
visual
what
that
system
looks
like
which
is
in
your
packet.
A
A
That's
been
undertaken
by
the
town
staff,
studying
the
ordinances
of
other
communities,
the
successes
and
failures
of
those
other
communities,
and
I
think
that
we
are
now
in
to
the
point
where
we
need
to
bring
something
forward.
I
don't
think
that
this
will
be
the
final
iteration
of
this
over
time.
I
suspect,
after
a
year
of
two,
we
will
learn
that
we
need
to
do
more
things
or
do
things
a
little
bit
differently.
A
A
F
Sure
the
the
systems
that
are
set
up,
the
the
portal
and
the
hotline
when
they
receive
a
complaint.
What
happens?
Is
the
operator
of
the
third
party
contractor
contacts
by
phone
by
text
or
by
call
the
owner
or
agent
that's
listed
on
the
short-term
rental
permit?
They
notify
them.
There's
a
complaint,
the
nature
of
the
complaint,
and
at
that
point
the
owner
is
responsible
or
the
agent
is
responsible
for
contact
for
contacting
the
guest
or
renter
and
saying
this
is
the
issue,
and
that
can
be
by
text
or
by
phone.
F
This
is
the
issue
it
needs
to
be
resolved
now.
The
expectation
is
that
that
the
contact
will
happen
within
an
hour
of
receiving
that
call.
There
may
be
some
systems
in
place.
Folks
may
want
to
put
some
backup
systems
in
place
in
case
they're
an
owner
in
charge
of
responding.
They
don't
want
to
hire
a
property
management
company.
I
was
just
looking
at
a
form
today
where
there
are
multiple
contacts,
their
backup
contacts.
So
if
you're
traveling
between
these
dates,
you
can
have
someone
else
respond
within
an
hour
to
the
complaint.
F
So
there
are
options
for
folks.
We
realize
that
especially
a
physical
response.
You
know
during
summer
traffic
or
for
a
property
management
company
that
has
only
so
many
employees.
It
may
not
be
feasible
to
have
a
physical
response
within
an
hour,
but
that's
the
expectation.
Now
it
may
not
be
met
every
time
and
we're
certainly
not
advocating
that
code
enforcement
right
of
a
citation
or
violation
that
each
time
that
hour
is
not
met.
But
that
is
the
expectation.
A
I
understand
what
the
expectations
are,
but
I
also
read
the
ordinance
and
it
appears
to
require
the
availability
within
an
hour
and
what
you're
saying
is
that
no,
the
owner
agent
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
appear
in
an
hour,
but
we
haven't
come
up
with
what
the
conditions
are.
That
would
require
appearance
within
an
hour
or
what
the
preliminary
steps
might
be,
that
a
tenant
that
a
an
owner
or
a
manager
might
use
short
of
having
a
physical
appearance.
A
F
F
F
A
F
F
The
town
is
notified
in
this
system.
A
a
record
will
be
generated
in
the
town
system.
Now
we
would
have
access
to
that
and
we
could
see
you
know
this
is
moving
forward.
We
had
a
call
caller
name,
caller
number
reported
address,
reported
issue,
the
caller
requested
notification
and
then,
whether
knows
and
whether
it
was
resolved,
we
can
see
all
of
that.
We
don't
need
to
act
on
that.
We
can
see
the
information
and
we
can
even
be
notified
of
the
information,
but
we
don't
need
to
do
anything
about
the
information,
so
that
would.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
am
very
pleased
about
the
violation
and
hearing
requirements
that
have
been
inserted
here.
I
think
it
makes
it
very
clear
what
will
happen
and
it
means
that
there
will
be
a
resolution
of
these
complaints
pretty
quickly,
and
I
think
that
is
excellent
and
I'm
very
pleased
that
that
is
there.
A
A
I'm
convinced
that
most
of
the
visitors
that
come
here
and
occupy
these
properties
are
also
responsible,
but
each
member
of
council,
including
yours,
truly
hears
complaints
about
this,
particularly
in
the
high
summer,
and
we
have
to
deal
with
it,
and
so
it's
unfortunate
that
the
actions
of
a
few
have
caused
all
of
these
regulations.
I'd
like
to
avoid
as
many
regulations
as
I
could,
but
it's
most
unfortunate
that
that's
happened.
A
A
We
have
some
properties
out
there
that
never
should
have
been
there.
We
all
know
that,
but
those
are
facts
that
we
have
to
live
with
moving
forward.
So,
in
summary,
thank
you
very
much
for
an
outstanding
job.
I
think
this
is
a
really
good.
First,
stop
first
step
for
us
and
I
look
forward
to
moving
it
forward
and
getting
this
in
place
as
soon
as
possible.
Thank
you,
david.
Thank
you
glenn,
mr
brown.
J
F
It's
a
moving
target.
I
believe,
when
I
looked
at
it
a
couple
of
days
ago,
the
number
that
we
have
for
the
service
that
we
have
includes
air,
bnb
and
vrbo.
It
doesn't
include
local
companies.
We
will
have
further
information
on
that
when
we
get
the
more
robust
software
product,
I
believe
it
was
7600
the
other
day
that
I
looked
at
it.
F
That's
correct
unless
they're
advertising
on
airbnb
or
vrbo,
and
that
cycles
considerably
trying
to
look
at
the
numbers
and
give
you
an
exact
number.
I
the
more.
I
look
at
the
numbers,
the
more
variation
there
is
seasonally.
You
know,
we've
got
some
folks
who
are
live
here,
part
time
of
the
year
who
haven't
you
know
gone
back
north,
so
to
speak.
So
it
varies
widely
throughout
the
season.
J
Okay,
thank
you
for
laying
out
the
I
guess,
prosecution
and
appeal
process
that
helps
me.
I
still
have
one
additional
question
there,
for
it
seems
to
be
a
difference
between
a
business
license
and
a
permit.
So
I'm
just
curious
to
know
if
if
an
agent
has
a
business
license
and
multiple
permits,
the
trying
will
be
simply
on
the
permit,
that
is
in
violation.
So
in
a
sense
a
business
could
have
10
permits.
G
J
K
It
would,
it
would
depend
on
on
how
they
have
the
whole
thing
set
up
if
they
have
everything
managed
under
one
business
license.
That
could
be
a
problem.
If
they
have
a
separate
business
license
for
each
separate
property,
then
no,
it
would
be
directed
that
the
short-term
rental
permits
our
property
by
property,
though.
K
The
road
as
a
practical
matter-
probably
at
least
my
experience-
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
people
outside
of
my
experience
operate
generally,
but
people
that
own
multiple
properties
that
they
use
in
this
fashion
typically
have
them
titled
in
the
name
of
a
different
llc
or
company,
and
so
you've
got
a
different
you'll
have
for
many
of
them
different
owners
anyway,
but
to
the
extent
that
there
is
a
person
that
might
get
caught
up
in
the
way
you've
described.
We
can
address
that
in
the
language.
Obviously,
we've
got.
J
While
we're
on
cold,
I
guess
I'll
ask
this
question.
I
also
agree
that,
as
we
move
forward
with
hiring
a
third
party
having
further
discussion
about
this,
that
there
may
be
further
revisions
to
what
we
we
adopt
at
the
council
level
right
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
I'm
just
curious
to
know
how
that
would
play
out.
Would
it
be
something
that
would
come
back
to
subcommittee
for
further
discussion
or
would
it
be
handled
just
at
the
council
level.
F
L
J
I
just
want
to
be
mindful
that
there
could
be
an
opportunity
where
someone
shows
up
and
says:
hey
you
didn't
get
this
right.
You
need
to
change
it.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
circle
back
in
the
same
fashion
that
we
have
gotten
to
this
point,
which
is
very
engaging
not
just
with
council,
but
the
community.
I
think
that's
important.
J
I
do
have,
I
think
I
have
a
response
to
your
question
about
the
inspections
by
fire
and
rescue
or
whomever
as
far
as
fire
extinguisher
is
concerned.
But
before
I
before
I
answer
that,
I
think
I
need
to
make
these
comments
about
the
proposed
fee,
and
I
understand
that
we
have
to
have
this
ordinance
in
place
in
order
to
build
a
budget
around
it.
J
J
The
fee
can't
be
viewed
as
simply
a
deter
for
bad
apples,
so
to
speak.
Okay,
I
just
don't
see
it
that
way,
all
right-
and
I
also
don't
see
it
simply-
covering
the
cost
of
the
softwares
and
the
third
parties
that
we're
going
to
have
to
engage
with
in
order
to
manage
what
we're
putting
in
place.
Okay,
I'm
really
referring
back
to
the
imbalance,
all
right,
I'll,
just
use
this
example,
particularly
for
those
that
are
going
to
be
developing
budget.
J
You
know
we
know
for
certain
that
we
don't
want
our
entire
island
to
become
short-term
rentals.
Okay,
and
we
know,
we've
had
some
infiltration
in
areas
that
we
can
argue
that
it
may
or
may
not
have
been,
but
we
also
realize
that
we
have
a
huge
burden
on
our
quality
of
experience
on
hilton
head
because
of
our
lack
of
affordable
housing
right.
J
J
I
kind
of
view
this
this
fee
at
the
moment
as
being
somewhat
inequitable,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
areas
on
hilton
head
that
may
have
a
lot
of
units
that
bring
in
a
lot
of
money
and
there
may
be
units
that
don't
bring
in
as
much
money.
But
if
we're
truly
trying
to
to
correct
the
issue
at
hand
of
imbalance,
I
think
we
need
to
get
out
of
the
box,
but
that
proposed
fee
and
make
sense
of
how
we
get
back
to
something
that
is
more
in
balance.
J
Okay,
so
those
are
my
thoughts
on
that
and
with
that
being
said,
we're
talking
about.
I
don't
know
eight
nine
thousand
units
that
we
want
to
inspect
on
an
annual
basis.
That's
a
lot
of
units
to
try
to
inspect
and
to
me
that
would
be
a
huge
amount
of
funding
that
have
to
be
associated
with
that,
and
I
would
rather
use
that
funding
to
get
back
to
imbalance.
The
imbalance
problem.
J
G
G
Hilton
head
island
is
a
paradise
that
draws
people
around
the
country
and
around
the
world.
It
has
developed
as
such
a
place
where
our
visitors
come.
They
have
those
amazing
experiences
that
have
been
referred
to
here
today
and
that
we
all
know,
because
we've
each
had
them
coming
across
that
bridge
as
we
get
the
chills.
G
The
situation
that
we
find
ourselves
in
today
has
grown,
to
the
extent
that
those
conditions
are
no
longer
largely
existent
use.
The
word
elimination
in
that
in
that
project
purpose
statement
of
our
neighborhoods,
and
I
kind
of
took
exception
of
that
one
and,
although
it
fairly
may
be
an
elimination
but
more
pointedly,
it
is
the
loss
of
that
quality
of
life
that
we
sought
when
we
purchased
our
homes
to
live
here.
G
Those
types
of
losses
are
impacted
by
the
type
of
development
that
has
been
allowed
to
happen
on
the
island.
So
in
many
regards
the
issues
that
we
have
have
been
self-inflicted,
it's
my
hope
for
the
future,
and
I
know
that
many
in
this
room
have
heard
me
say
this
almost
on
a
daily
basis
and
I'll
continue
to
say
it,
because
it's
a
priority
of
mine.
G
It
is
my
hope
in
the
future
that
our
development
process
for
homes
becomes
much
more
reasonable,
with
the
type
of
lifestyle
and
quality
of
life
that
people
sought
when
they
came
to
hilton
head
island
first,
as
visitors,
perhaps
in
rentals
in
those
homes,
those
reasonable
homes
where
people
bought
them
with
the
expectation
of
retiring
in
them.
Therefore,
using
the
revenue
gained
in
the
meantime
to
help
purchase
that
home.
G
I'm
hoping
that
we
look
at
the
standards
in
which
our
communities
are
developed.
Where
now
we
find
ourselves
we're
building
homes
that
families
won't
be
interested
in
purchasing
the
only
next
buyer.
For
that
property
would
seemingly
be
another
investment
firm
looking
to
make
oodles
of
money
without
any
connection,
without
any
commitment
to
our
neighborhoods
to
our
quality
of
life
and
to
the
future
of
hilton
head's
paradise.
G
G
G
So
hopefully,
with
those
comments,
you
understand
from
my
perspective,
why
this
is
so
important,
a
small
matter
which
I
think
relates
to
some
of
the
comments
that
have
been
made
up
here
and
thank
you
all
for
those
is
has
how
and
and
previously
how
many
rentals
are
there
on
the
island.
We
have
numbers,
seven
thousand,
ten
thousand
et
cetera.
G
Well,
when
I
was
doing
my
research
for
today's
meeting,
I
picked
up
air
dna
and
I
looked
at
their
map
for
hilton
head
island
which,
by
the
way
you
can't
get
into
without
paying
a
fee
to
get
further
information,
but
it
shows
a
map
and
you
won't
be
able
to
see
it
very
clearly,
and
I
was
going
to
ask
you
to
put
up
this
map
indicates
only
5
000
or
so
so
it's
not
complete
again,
I
didn't
pay
for
it.
I
took
what
was
on
the
surface.
G
G
G
The
needs
of
our
neighbors
and
the
residents
in
our
island
is
to
regain
that
balance
in
their
lives,
so
that
there
is
not.
If
and
for
those
who
have
psychology.
As
a
background
may
know
the
theory
of
learned
helplessness
and
so
I'm
afraid
that
some
of
our
neighborhoods
may
be
falling
into
a
situation
where
they're
becoming
so.
G
So
convinced
that
we're
not
going
to
do
something
that
actually
impacts
the
disruption
in
their
lives,
that
they've
fallen
into
a
learned,
hopelessness,
type
of
condition
where
they
give
up
or
they
give
up
and
they
move,
they
put
their
houses
on
the
market
and
they
leave
us.
So,
in
my
mind,
we're
not
really
in
this
ordinance
doing
enough
to
address
that
as
an
immediate
need
doesn't
begin.
This
ordinance
until
january
1st
2023
what
happens
over
the
course
of
the
next
year?
Who
do
we
call?
G
G
I
think
we
fall
short
when
we
say
we're
going
to
use
that
system
and
we
don't
provide
a
more
immediate
and
so
to
the
answer
of
and
the
concern
for
the
hour
response
time.
That's
why?
Because
people's
lives
are
being
impacted
and
the
reason
people's
lives
are
being
impacted
is
because
their
expectations
are
exactly
as
I've
discussed
and
you've
all
discussed
with
me.
G
G
G
I
believe
that
a
recommendation
to
get
to
the
point
is
that
our
agent,
in
terms
of
response
time,
needs
to
be
someone
who
is
an
agreement
and
not
only
affirmed
that
provides
an
affidavit
that
they
will
make
themselves
available
to
whatever
the
situation
and
condition
is
that
is
being
complained
about
and
that
there
are
in
fact,
as
you
mentioned
and
backups
for,
for
that,
mr
brown,
you
brought
up
a
question
about
licensing
and
permits.
That
was
one
of
my
questions
as
well.
G
G
I'm
not
clear
yet
on
that,
if
we're
pulling,
if
we
are
going
by
a
license,
ordinance,
removal
that
impacts
every
one
of
those
permits
and
not
every
one
of
those
permits
are
necessarily
the
offending
property.
Does
that
make
sense?
So
a
question
that
I
have
the
suggestion
I
don't
know,
but
I
would
like
some
clarity
on
that.
G
I'm
going
to
try
to
go
through
my
notes.
I
don't
want
to
short
change
any
of
it,
because
this
group
of
people
who
are
here
and
those
listening
are
interested
in
us
making
sure
that
we
are
thorough
in
in
finding
the
mechanisms
that
provide
that
relief
and
do
it
in
a
way
that's
meaningful
not
to
just
get
through
it.
G
G
Fines
will
be
in
place,
we
haven't
in
our
ordinance,
but
I
would
like
to
see
some
emphasis
on
the
permit
not
being
able
to
be
renewed
or
continued
until
those
fines
are
paid
and
the
mechanism
for
issuing
those
citations
and
tracking
down
the
person
who
the
citation
goes
to
and
getting
them
to
pay.
That
fine,
isn't
clear
to
me
either
and
the
length
of
time.
More
importantly,
for
that
to
occur,
isn't
particularly
helpful.
G
So
question
on
that
that
responsive
action,
I
also
had
a
free
question
about
others:
have
brought
it
up
the
response
of
action.
Is
that
simply
well
I
reached
out-
and
I
called
the
sheriff
and
or
I
called
code,
and
so
I've
done
something
and
my
job
is
done
and
that
pretty
much
puts
us
where
we
are
today,
which
is
a
burden
on
the
town
and
a
burden
on
our
sheriff's
department.
G
I
can
only
shake
my
head
and
because
I
read
comments
like
that,
I
think
it
would
be
wise
of
us
to
find
out
from
fire
and
rescue
what
it
would
take
for
them.
Their
costs,
their
overhead,
their
manpower
whatever.
That
is
to
have
inspections
that
are
specific
to
those
concerns
about
the
health
and
welfare
of
our
community
and
our
visitors
and
our
guests.
G
For
those
don't
know,
I
speak
very
sensitively
about
the
issue
of
fire.
My
house
was
on
fire
in
the
middle
of
the
night.
I
know
what
it
takes
to
get
out
of
your
house
when
you
know
your
house
well,
if
you
are
in
a
rental
and
you've
just
arrived,
and
your
kids
are
in
one
bedroom
and
your
pets
are
in
another
space
and
grammy
and
papa
who
came
along
with
you
are
in
another
space
and
you
need
to
get
out.
G
You
need
to
have
information
there
available
to
you,
and
I
would
like,
as
a
matter
of
feeling,
confident
that
our
community
is
safe
and
our
visitors
are
safe,
that
they
have
that
information
at
the
their
forefront
right
in
front
of
them.
So
I
want
fire
and
rescue
and
a
fee
what
that
would
entail,
manpower,
etc.
I
would
like
to
know
more
about
that.
G
You
need
to
know
what
your
best
choice
is
right
and
if
you
don't
know
your
environment,
you
can't
possibly
be
aware
of
that.
So
I
think
it
behooves
us
to
make
sure
that
people
are
safe
and
will
survive
something
that
happens,
and
you
oftentimes
have
no
idea
why
the
page
25
of
your
presentation
it
has
to
do
with
the
parking
to
me.
It's
just.
It
just
needs
to
be
cleaned
up
the
way
it's
written.
I
appreciate
your
addressing
the
issue
with
the
concerns
that
people
could
just
pave
over
their
yards
for
additional
parking
spaces.
G
G
G
We've
talked
about
the
piece
of
it.
The
operator
for
short-term
rental
has
been
declared
a
nuisance,
and
so
I
understand
the
the
code
with
regard
to
nuisance.
That
answers
my
question
as
to
what
triggers
this
and
an
owner
has
been
convicted
of
more
than
two
violations
of
this
chapter
in
a
12-month
period.
G
You
shall
do
this,
but
if
you
don't
do
it,
we
may
do
this.
We
may
not
we're
not
sure
and
there's
just
a
lot
of
ambiguity
for
me
in
that
and
if
the
goal
is
here
to
try
to
get
people
to
understand,
we
really
are
asking
leading
and
helping
to
educate
people
to
come
back
into
compliance
for
a
more
balance
between
our
visitors,
who
we
hope
someday
will
have
the
experiences
to
want
to
become
our
residents
and
not
the
experience
of
being
miserable
when
they're
here,
because
we
have
onerous
rules.
G
So
that's
the
goal
so
anyway,
I
the
maze
and
the
you
know
we
want
you,
you
shall
do
this,
we're
insisting
you
do
this,
but
if
you
don't
I'm
not
really
sure
we
may
do
this,
we
may
not
do.
That
is
a
little
unsettling
for
me.
So
for
those
reasons,
and
probably
12
or
15
more
that
you
don't
want
me
to
go
into
at
this
moment,
but
I
will.
C
G
D
D
I
immediately
go
back
to
the
way
charles
frazier
saw
the
vacation
experience,
and
so
I
think
I
think
it's
very
important
for
us
to
keep
that
in
mind.
But
then
you
have
the
the
the
impacts
of
those
activities
on
people
who
live
here
365
days
of
the
year
and
that's
another
balancing
act
that
we
are
trying
to
achieve.
D
D
D
A
recommendation
was
made
to
add,
permit
permit
numbers
on
any
advertising
that
goes
out.
So
if
I
look
at
a
website-
and
I
see
some
a
property
being
advertised-
there's
a
permit
number
there.
I
feel
more
confident,
then,
that
we've
closed
closed
the
loop
and
perhaps
made
it
easier
for
people
to
pursue
issues
that
need
to
be
pursued.
D
I
have
to
say
I'm
a
little
uncomfortable
where
the
language
is
today,
but
I
don't
know
what
the
solution
is
there,
because
we
have
property
owners,
full-time
residents
and
perhaps
sometimes
even
visitors,
who
are
unable
to
sleep
or
who
have
to
clean
up
trash
or
whatever.
And
so
I
think
that
this
ordinance
to
be
successful
has
to
have
some
teeth
in
it,
and
this
is
one
place
where
I
think
it's
appropriate.
D
D
D
A
D
D
E
O
E
D
L
Very
briefly,
10
240
5b.
If
you'll
read
that
with
me,
short-term
rental
properties
must
be
properly
maintained
and
inspected
by
the
owner
or
short-term
rental
agent
to
ensure
continued
compliance
with
this
chapter
and
all
other
applicable
zoning
building
and
health
fire
safety
code
requirements.
Okay,
when
you
buy
a
house
as
an
investment
tool,
you
are
not
bestowed
with
the
abilities
of
a
fire
inspector,
someone
who
knows
national
electric
code
or
any
other
fire
safety
person.
L
It
doesn't
come
with
it
like
some
kind
of
baronial
title
to
a
big
estate
and
so
we're
assuming
now.
Yes,
this
person
is
accountable,
the
owner
is
accountable
or
should
be
accountable,
should
be
held
reliable
and
he
is
at
fault
for
these
problems,
but
he
doesn't
understand
these
problems.
He
doesn't
know
if
he's
in
good
standing.
So
if
you
give
him
a
sheet,
an
affidavit,
all
he's
got
to
do
is
as
far
as
I
know,
this
all
looks
good
and
he
checks
it,
and
then
you
accept
it.
L
You
both
have
plausible
deniability,
but,
like
david
said,
you
haven't
moved
the
needle
forward
on
safety.
That's
just
plausible
deniability
and
if
that's
going
to
be
the
town's
standard,
then
please
josh.
When
you
send
me
my
form
about
hospitality
tax,
you
say
jack:
do
you
owe
the
town
any
money
as
far
as
you
know,
I'll
check?
No,
but
for
that
the
town
requires
documentation
and
accountability.
L
So
if
we're
for
real
in
this
ordinance
we're
trying
to
make
things
better,
we
need
documentation
and
accountability
and
they
can
hire
fire
safety
or
some
other
person.
That's
qualified
on
the
outside
to
come
in
and
inspect
those
things
yearly
because,
like
glenn
said,
some
of
these
horses
have
been
out
the
barn
for
many
years
in
forest,
beach
and
they're
frankenstein
houses
and
they
were
done
with
not
up
to
code
and
done
unsafely
and
we
need
to
find
those
because
it's
it's
asking
for
a
problem.
L
L
That's
that's
a
lot
of
assumption
to
say
that
someone
as
an
investor,
understands
every
detail
in
the
safety
of
that
house
and
is
it
safe
and
it
wasn't
constructed
safely.
So
please,
on
that
one
you
need.
We
have
a
wonderful
fire
rescue
department,
we
can
add
an
extra
fee
and
those
guys
on
the
side
can
make
another
100
bucks
per
unit
going
through
there
and
looking
for
professional
things,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
raise
the
standard,
let's
start
there
with
safety,
I
mean
safety
requires
accountability,
not
just
deniability,
okay.
P
Morning,
I'm
risa
prince,
I
do
not
own
rental
property
moved
here
to
a
community
that
specifically
does
not
allow
short-term
rentals,
but
I'm
speaking
today
because
I'm
concerned
about
the
unintended
consequences
of
adopting
any
regulation
on
short-term
rental.
First
of
all,
I
agree
with
mr
daly
there's
to
me:
there's
an
implied
exposure
to
liability
if
the
town
issues
a
permit
for
a
property
that
that
the
town
can't
verify
is
suitable
and
safe
for
occupancy.
P
So,
for
example,
when
someone
builds
a
house,
they
get
a
certificate
of
occupancy.
If
the
town
is
regulating
this
and
charging
a
fee
for
a
permit,
I
would
think
it
would
be
wise
for
the
town
to
insist
that
the
rental
property
at
least
complies
with
minimum
safety
standards
via
a
third
party
inspection.
P
P
I
don't
see
much
difference
in
terms
of
the
community
impact
of
those
folks
coming
in
for
their
week
of
the
year
versus
someone
coming
in
on
a
on
a
rental
basis,
so
I'm
not
sure
why
this
wouldn't
also
apply
to
time
shares.
And
thirdly,
every
time
the
town
adopts
a
policy.
I
have
concerns
about
the
viability
of
our
enforcement.
P
M
Good
morning,
good
morning,
my
name
is
john
davidson.
I
probably
have
a
longer
connection
to
hilton
head
than
anyone.
As
far
as
I
know,
this
is
my
51st
year,
I
retired
here
because
of
covid
and
became
a
full-time
resident
on
the
first
of
the
year.
Getting
all
the
paperwork
finally
finished
to
get
a
driver's
license
and
so
forth
and
would
not
be
off
the
golf
course,
except
that
this
is
probably
the
worst
drafting
and
legal
work
that
I
have
ever
seen.
I've
been
a
lawyer
clerk
for
the
south.
M
M
Now
any
real
estate
lawyer
in
the
western
world
would
say
sign
a
lease
you
can
get
them
out
if
something
goes
haywire
it's
simpler
than
tomorrow,
but
this
agreement
because
it
says
any
agreement
for
occupancy
under
30
days-
makes
that
very
simple
common
practice
to
close
real
estate
in
st
louis
missouri.
When
you
have
title
problems
on
friday
afternoon
at
four
o'clock
that
you
cannot
resolve
illegal
okay,
I've
got
three
minutes.
I
have
to
stop.
M
Q
Q
Q
Yet
we
are
about
to
put
pass
something
out
of
committee
and
to
the
town
council
for
your
revisions,
not
public
comment
and
revision
that
will
then
become
a
law
that
we
will
all
have
to
abide
by
as
soon
as
possible
as
soon
as
it
is
in
play,
even
though
it
is
set
for
january
of
2023.
It
is
a
legal
ordinance.
Q
All
of
these
people
that
work
in
this
industry
are
residents,
so
don't
sit
there
and
try
to
tell
us
that
it's
only
for
a
certain
portion.
We
are
all
affected
by
this,
so
we
ask
that
you
understand
the
impact
of
what
that
will
have
as
not
only
an
economic
driver.
We
talk
about
affordable
housing.
I
completely
agree
with
you.
The
largest
land
holder
in
the
town
of
hilton
head
is
the
town
of
hilton
head
through
public
private
partnerships.
That
problem
can
be
solved.
That
is
not
the
fault
of
short-term
rentals.
Q
Q
Q
R
And
this
will
sound
so
miniscule.
I
appreciate
all
this
laura
holtzman
north
forest
beach
has
20
years
last
week,
part-timer
own
a
house
me
and
my
husband,
who
I
who
just
passed
we
own
40
for
47
years
between
california,
colorado,
breckenridge,
new
york,
city,
new
jersey,
this
developed
into
our
business
and
when
we
discovered
after
9
11,
we
found
hilton
head.
R
Even
though
I'm
born
and
bred
new
yorker
best
place
we
ever
saw,
we
saw
that
we
could
afford
it
because
of
circumstances,
but
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
rent
what
we
owned
in
new
york
city,
the
laws
change,
and
we
lost
that.
But
here
y'all
I
love
it.
This
is
my
home.
This
is
a
free
state.
I
don't
want
to
see
it
turned
into
brooklyn
and
new
york
city
and
denver
and
breckenridge
and
california.
R
So
all
I'm
talking
about
I'm
a
single
person,
one
house
we
used
to
have
two:
I
sold
it.
I've
been
doing
it
for
20
years
vrbo.
I
have
never
had
a
complaint.
I
have
a
list
everything
you
talked
about.
My
people
through
vrbo
get
it.
I've
never
had
a
neighbor
tell
me
and
they
and
they
are
if
they
complain.
You
call
me
they're
gone.
R
Never
in
20
years,
one
trash
thing:
I
have
a
big
trash
thing
about
double
double
bagging
behind
the
fence.
We
don't
even
have
to
take
it
to
the
curb,
and
I
tell
them
don't
because
that's
part
of
my
contract-
and
I
have
one
complaint
to
me-
I
don't
need
you
guys,
I
don't
need.
Are
they
going
to
call
you
like
some
of
the
complaints
that
I've
gotten,
because
we
have
palmetto
bugs
also
known
as
roaches
in
new
york?
R
R
I
have
four
bedrooms,
three
baths,
a
great
big
backyard
that
we
developed,
and
this
is
my
income
and
I
pay
on
my
2100,
not
mcmansion,
my
2100
home,
which
is
my
total
home
now
without
my
husband,
but
I
still
rent,
I
just
paid
7
100
in
property
tax
and
the
accommodation
taxes
which,
when
business
is
good,
my
customers
pay,
but
we've
had
ups
and
downs
where
I
paid
it.
We
paid
it
and
I'm
going
to
find
out
someone's
going
to
call
because
of
a
loud
party.
R
R
I
don't
want
mcmansions
that
changed
when
we
first
started
coming
back
and
it
broke
my
heart
and
the
stuff
that
we
had
to
go
through
to
remove
some
of
those
trees,
whatever
they
were
in
our
backyard,
which
was
a
swamp
we
need
permits,
so
we
could
put
a
pool
in.
I
don't
I
don't
like
that
portion
of
it,
but
this
is
my
business,
my
home,
I
pay
and
we
would
never
have
been
able
to
live
here.
If
we
hadn't
been
able
to
do
what
we're
doing
so
watch
out.
Look
what
happened
to
brooklyn.
R
O
My
name
is
lisa
roberts.
I
am
all
three
I'm
a
resident,
I'm
a
short-term
property
owner
and
I'm
a
principal
in
a
short-term
management
company,
which
we
take
very
much
pride
in
managing
our
guests
and
our
properties.
We
have
all
local
people
working
with
us
that
grew
up
here.
We
take
considerable
time
and
a
person
in
our
property
has
the
on-call
phone,
but
there
still
could
be
a
chance
that
they
didn't
answer
that
phone
one
or
two
times
and
what
happens
that
property
might
get
penalized
the
properties
each
have
a
building.
O
Permit,
I
mean
a
business
license
so
that
permit
would
be
going
towards
that
property.
So
are
we
looking
at
that
property
getting
penalized
or
the
management
company
we've
had
instance,
also
that
you
call
the
sheriff's
department
and
they
don't
even
respond
within
an
hour.
I
believe
an
hour
is
putting
a
little
bit
too
much
constraint
on
on
reasonably
responding
to
any
problems.
O
I
just
wanted
you
guys
to
take
that
into
consideration
if
you
can
and
also
if
we
all
agree
that
there
should
be
some
ordinance
and
some
balance,
but
we
need
to,
I
think,
really
work
on
this
and
not
push
it
through.
We
need
to
come
up
with
something
that
will
last
and
that's
something
that
has
to
be
changed
every
six
months
every
year
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
B
I
took
some
notes
what
you're
proposing
to
move
forward
and
I
think
we're
all
on
the
same
page
as
far
as
keeping
hilton
head
being
nice
and
clean
and
a
good
place
safe
place
to
be
a
couple
things
concern
me.
The
two
strikes
you're
out
I
mean
what's
to
stop
a
neighbor
living
here
that
just
doesn't
like
rentals
and
we're
over.
Here
we
have
a
house
that
has
rentals
that's
by
right
allowed
to
do
this.
B
B
I
said
we
I'm
not
a
rental
company,
but
the
rental
companies.
They
can't
pick
and
choose
who
they
can
rent
to.
They
answer
a
reservation.
They
put
a
credit
card
down,
they
show
up,
they
rent
the
house,
here's
the
rules.
So
what?
If
you
have
an
unruly
guest,
does
that
property
owner
or
company
get
in
trouble,
or
do
they
get
that
call
they
answer
in
an
hour
or
whatever's
fair,
and
they
address
that
problem
they
remove
those
people.
B
Do
they
still
get
that
strike
so
moving
forward
imposing
these
laws,
which
I
call
restrictions
and
laws
which
are
good,
but
they
also
can
hurt.
So
please
think
about
any
and
all
you
know
when
you
play
a
game,
if
you
know
all
the
rules,
it's
easy
to
figure
it
out,
like
I
play
poker.
If
there's
a
little
bit
of
money
in
the
pot
and
something
comes
up,
it's
not
a
big
deal,
but
there's
a
lot
of
money
in
the
pot.
I
believe
what
I
believe
and
you
believe
what
you
believe.
B
I
think
when
you
say
that
you
get,
if
you
do
take
the
license
and
say
this
house
is
a
nuisance
and
I'm
sure
there
are
some
places
that
continually
have
real
issues
and
real
problems,
probably
not
many
or
we
wouldn't
be
in
business,
this
long,
so
a
few
which
is
probably
a
big
number,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
rentals
every
week
times
8
000
or
times
10
whatever.
It
is.
That's
a
lot.
So
if
we
do
have
hundreds
of
complaints,
it's
a
small
number
in
the
big
picture.
B
However,
it's
not
if
you're
that
neighbor
I
understand
so
we
have
to
try
to
work
together,
be
realistic
and
be
fair.
That's
all
I'm
asking
moving
forward
to.
Please
try
to
have
a
think
tank
of
scenarios
of
what
can
happen
and
if
this
house
is
a
problem,
does
that
house
get
that
stamp
of
never
getting
an
approval
or
does
that
homeowner
or
do
you
have
to
change
rental
companies
or
do
I
just
say
cool,
I
move
it
to
another
llc.
I
go
ahead
and
get
a
license
and
boom
back
in
business.
What
about?
B
If
you
say
this
you're
in
trouble?
You're
a
nuisance:
what
about
the
guests
and
the
reservations
that
are
already
on
hand
for
next
week
and
the
next
week?
What
do
you
do
about
that?
Because
the
rental
act
says
you
have
90
days
when
the
property
changes
deeds,
so
just
something
to
think
about.
I
think
I've
gone
over
my
minutes,
but
thank
you
appreciate
you.
C
Good
morning,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
paul
sego
senior
government
affairs
manager
for
the
east
coast
for
expedia
group
verbo
is
our
vacation
rental
brand.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
this
process.
It's
been
one
of
the
most
open
and
and
welcoming,
frankly,
from
our
point
of
view
that
we've
seen
across
the
country,
thank
you
to
your
staff.
C
Ann
has
been
wonderful
to
work
with
we've
reached
out
to
her
a
couple
times.
Thank
you
all
for
taking
the
time
to
hear
from
us
to
hear
from
owners
from
from
renters
on
our
platform
like
miss
lara
who
spoke
a
couple
people
ago.
We,
I
said
this
when
I
sort
of
introduced
myself
to
you
via
email.
Expedia
group
wants
to
be
a
resource
to
you
as
you
go
through
this
process.
C
You've
been
great
in
hearing
from
us,
and
so
as
as
this
issue
moves
to
full
council
we'd
still
like
to
be
a
resource
as
council
goes
to
what
we're
calling
tier
two
and
those
sort
of
bigger
picture
issues,
still
love
to
be
a
resource.
So
just
thank
you
for
this
process
and
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you.
E
S
S
I
think
that
person's
just
a
miserable
person
I
mean
I
understand
that
they
want
peace
of
mind
and
they
want
they
want
to
live
in
the
in
the
area
that
they
thought
they
were
moving
into,
but
you
know
I
live
in
north
farce
beach.
I
have
amazing
neighbors.
I
love
love,
seeing
the
families
walk
to
the
beach
and
the
the
joy
that
they
have
by
being
here,
I've
been
in
the
rental
business
for
15
years.
I've
had
five
five
situations
where
I
had
to
call
a
guest
and
tell
them
that
they
were
being
loud.
S
S
S
I
Hi
good
morning,
kate
makullian,
I'm
a
full-time
residence
here
on
hilton
head
and
I
also
work
for
a
short-term
vacation
rental
company
for
the
past
12
years.
So
just
a
couple
of
random
comments
that
have
come
to
mind
during
this
meeting
is
one.
We
don't
know
how
many
short-term
rentals
there
are
on
the
island.
It's
clear:
we've
thrown
out
six
thousand
seven
thousand
ten
thousand.
How
many
are
there
and
then
how
many
properties
are
there
on
the
island?
I'd
like
to
know
the
ratio?
I
We
talked
about
people
moving
here,
not
wanting
to
be
neighbors
with
a
short-term
rental
property.
How
many
communities
are
there
on
the
island
that
don't
allow
that
that
they
have
the
option
to
move
to?
So
it's
not
like
they
don't
have
that
option,
there's
so
many
available
condos
homes
whatever
it
is,
they
have
that
option.
I
I
live
in
a
short-term
rental
community.
I
love
seeing
all
these
vacationers
come
huge
smiles
on
their
faces.
They
love
hilton
head.
They
see
the
kids
with
their
boogie
boards
getting
on
like
their
bikes
going
on
the
beach.
It's
awesome,
they're,
so
nice
to
be
around
they're,
actually
nicer
than
my
neighbors
who
live
there
trash.
I
know,
that's
a
big
deal.
I
I
deal
with
that
on
a
daily
basis
from
the
management
side
of
things.
Are
we
going
to
be
holding
the
trash
companies
responsible
for
not
missing
a
pickup
which
they
so
often
do?
You
know
we
have
to
call
them,
they
have
to
go
back
out,
so
we
do
what
we
can,
but
if
we're
not
holding
the
trash
company
responsible,
how
are
we
supposed
to
do
our
jobs?
I
Secondly,
fire
rescue,
our
police
department.
We
are
understaffed,
as
is,
and
now
you
want
to
put
more
tasks
on
them.
We
call
the
cops
if
someone's
complaining
about
noise-
sometimes
they
don't
even
show
up.
They
say
they
have
other
things
to
do
the
points
of
quiet
hours
between
10
and
7.
I
know
for
a
fact
people
who
are
going
to
call
at
10
01
pm
every
single
time,
because
they
are
unhappy
that
they
live
next
to
a
short-term
rental
property
that
was
there
before
they
even
built
the
house.
I
T
T
I
just
think
that
they
keep
the
island
beautiful
and
the
way
that
you
know
that
I
saw
it
when
I
moved
here,
as
tamara
said,
and
our
money
comes
from
the
short-term
rental
market.
Basically
with
all
our
restaurants
and
everything
like
that,
and
I
understand
we
need
some
more
housing,
I'm
just
not
sure
what
the
answer
is
right
now
and
I
don't
think
that
we
should
move
too
fast
with
all
the
short-term
rental
companies
here.
H
H
H
You
brought
up
a
concept
of
learned,
helplessness,
there's
also
a
concept
in
the
law,
I'm
a
former
lawyer
to
recovering,
but
there's
a
concept
in
the
law
called
coming
to
the
nuisance,
all
right,
and
we
have
plenty
of
areas
on
the
island
where,
where
you
don't
have
to
come
to
the
nuisance,
if
you
don't
want
to
be
around
it,
you
can
also
be
in
the
on
the
island
close
to
the
beach
that
in
port
royal
or
leamington
and
not
be
around
it.
So
so
that's
one
idea
I
want
to
present.
H
It
feels
like
we're
going
to
move
towards
this
anyway.
So
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
you've
got
a
two-strike
policy,
one
hour
response
time
and
30-day
hearing
process.
Okay.
So
if,
if
you're
in
the
middle
of
the
summer,
that
could
be
very
costly,
100
000
in
in
lost
income
potentially
on
some
of
the
bigger
properties-
and
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
compliance
element
to
this-
something
where
people
understand.
If
I
do
this,
then
then
I've
compliant
complied
with
this
one
hour
requirement.
E
U
Name
is
beth
petcher
and
I
did
grow
up
on
the
island.
I've
lived
here
for
32
years
and
to
drew's
point
most
of
the
people
here
on
the
island.
Working
in
the
short-term
rental
industry
do
live
on
the
island.
As
everybody
else
has
said,
there
are
certain
areas
of
the
island
where
you
don't
have
to
where
you
can
choose
to
move
to
that.
Don't
allow
short-term
rentals.
U
I
think
everybody
in
our
industry
is
agreeance
that
we
want
to
have
good
guests.
We
can't
always
control
what
they'll
do,
but
we
want
to
present
good
guests
to
the
island.
We
want
to
be
good
neighbors
and
we
want
to
do
enough
to
make
sure
that
we're
acknowledging
our
guests
and
giving
them
that
point
several
of
the
points
in
this
ordinance.
I
think,
as
everybody
has
noted
to,
they
still
need
some
refinement
so
trying
to
push
something
forward
today
for
the
very
next
town
council
meeting
with
so
many
holes.
U
U
That
gives
us
more
time
to
even
tweak
it
more
and
kind
of
fine
tune.
Some
of
these
points
that
we
all
agree,
none
of
us
want
to
deal
with
they're
here,
but
we
just
need
to
do
it
in
the
right
way
and
not
fast
track
it
when
we're
not
even
going
to
be
able
to
enforce
it
this
rental
season,
as
it
is,
so
I'm
asking
you
to
please
just
take
more
time
to
consider
some
of
these
elements
and
how
they
can
be
redefined
to
affect
us
all
properly.
Thank
you.
N
N
Jeremy
klein
and
two
things
I
wanted
to
to
ask
about-
is
one
the
fee
being
a
flat
fee
for
million
dollar
homes,
as
opposed
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
condo
seems
a
little
bit
unbalanced
to
me.
We're
going
to
be
doing
this
at
business
license
time
anyway.
So
is
there
a
way
that
we
could
put
that
on
revenue
basis,
because
you're
submitting
what
your
revenue
is
for
your
business
license?
N
You
can
do
it
at
the
same
time
and
make
it
more
equitable
to
people
who
own
cheaper
properties-
and
my
second
thing
is
that
there's
language
in-
and
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
bring
it
up,
but
in
what's
a
nuisance
as
it
says,
offends
something
that
offends
and
a
real
short
example
is.
I
got
a
nasty
phone
call
from
a
lady
about
an
offensive
flag
hanging
on
the
beach.
I
went
down
there
expecting
a
confederate
flag
or
a
nazi
flag,
and
they
were
hanging
a
trump
flag.
N
V
V
What
the
penalties
are,
and
that
kind
of
brings
me
to
my
concern
about
this
today-
is
that
I
feel
like
even
though
there's
been.
Obviously
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
has
gone
into
this
and
what
a
gargantuan
task
and
kudos
to
everyone
who
really
has
worked
so
hard
on
it.
But
I'd
like
to
see
before
it
goes
farther
that
it
be
a
little
more
buttoned
up.
Things
be
explained,
the
differences
in
violations
and
citations
permits
and
licenses
and
who's
responsible
for
what
and
how
things
are
going
to
be
addressed
and
enforced
and
penalized.
V
That
would
be
my
my
request.
I
echo
everybody's
sentiments,
hear
some
really
great
comments,
and
I
just
would
like
to
leave
you
all
with
the
the
fact
that
the
vacation
rental
business
is
really
hard.
It's
a
it's
a
really
hard
business.
It's
different
people,
it's
lots
of
owners,
it's
guests
every
week
or
four
nights
or
five
nights.
It's
depending
on
a
slew
of
people
to
prepare
the
houses
from
housekeeping
pool
techs,
hvac
plumbers.
We
need
people
in
the
middle
of
the
day
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
and
it's
it.
V
It's
really
amazing.
Sometimes
I
think
that
it
works
as
well
as
it
does.
You
know
that
we
that
we
keep
all
of
these
balls
in
the
air
and
keep
people
coming
back
and
things
aren't
honestly
worse.
I
think
it's
really
important
to
as
we
go
forward.
We're
really
fortunate
here
to
have
a
lot
of
really
good
local
people
who
are
running
our
businesses.
D
D
D
K
J
Councilman
stanford's
motion
included
opportunity
for
us
to
make
changes
at
the
council
level.
Okay,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
know:
we've
we've
given
staff
a
lot
okay,
but
there
were
a
few
comments
that
were
made
that
triggered
some
more
thoughts
with
me.
I
don't.
I
just
want
to
pull
these
out
to
the
staff
three
minutes.
Okay,
no!
No.
M
J
Not
gonna
take
me
that
long.
I
think
the
the
the
comments
about
the
requirements
for
affidavit
versus
truly
being
responsible.
I
think
that's
valid,
that's
something
we
really
need
to
understand
when
we
get
to
the
entire
council-
and
I
agree
with
you
accountable
names
that
absent
the
mayor,
councilman,
hawkins
and
councilman
linux,
not
being
a
part
of
the
deliberation,
is,
is
worthy
enough
for
me
to
move
forward,
because
I
want
to
hear
their
thoughts
as
well.
J
Okay,
the
the
liability
concern
with
permitting,
for
you
know,
safety
and
not
having
the
means
to
check
behind.
I
think
that
is
you
know,
I'm
for
one
concerned
about
the
amount
of
money
it's
going
to
take
to
do
that,
but
it
is
a
concern.
Okay
and
the
time
share
piece,
I'm
not
quite
clear
on
that
either.
I
think
that
needs
to
be
teased
out
a
bit
so
that
we
have
a
better
understanding.
J
G
We'll
say
10
minutes
for
council,
but
that's
okay.
It
won't
take
me
that
long.
First
of
all,
I
wanted
to
thank
everyone
for
their
comments.
I
know
they're
thoughtful.
I
know
that
the
intention
behind
it
is
to
help
produce
a
better
product,
not
just
here
as
an
ordinance
but
in
terms
of
what
hilton
head
offers,
both
our
visitors
and
our
residents.
I
agree
david
and
I
about
your
comment
that
you
took
a
risk
in
making.
G
I
would
venture
to
say
that
there
is
a
high
probability
that
most
of
the
issues
come
from
owners
who
never
have
that
foot
on
the
ground
on
hilton,
head
island,
but
own,
perhaps
not
just
one
but
many
properties
on
the
island
and
don't
really
have
their
heart
and
soul
invested
here,
and
that
makes
a
big
difference.
So
those
of
you
who
are
in
the
room
who
are
residents,
I'm
so
grateful
to
see
you
and
I
do
appreciate
the
fact
that
these
issues
impact
you
as
well.
G
I
think
that
sometimes
perhaps,
though,
that
you
may
not
hear
about
the
issues
that
we
do
because
residents
are
very
kind
on
hilton
head,
our
friend
from
vrbo
mentioned
how
thoughtful
and
kind
and
welcoming
we
are
here
we
are.
This
is
a
unique
place,
I'm
not
saying
that
others
aren't
kind
and
considerate,
but
hilton
head
is
a
unique
paradise
that
we
do
not
want
to
disturb,
and
my
concern
is
that
by
having
these
types
of
issues
that
we
all
hear
about,
we
are
disturbing
the
future
of
our
island.
A
I
just
want
to
say
this
has
not
been
rushed.
We've
been
working
at
this
for
a
long
time.
There
has
been
input
from
interest
groups
from
property
owners.
This
is
our
second
full
meeting
discussing
just
this
ordinance.
It
is
not
being
rushed.
We
need
to
make
a
decision
and
I'm
ready
to
see
us
move
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
P
D
P
F
F
Instead,
instead
of
considering
these
issues,
as
I
presented
to
you
on
march
9th,
we
propose
to
refine
the
next
phase
of
the
short-term
rental
initiative
into
two
areas
of
focus.
The
first
is
an
examination
of
those
high
occupancy
short-term
rentals
and
single-family
structures
with
high
floor
area
ratios,
and
the
second
is
an
examination
of
the
impacts
of
the
increasing
number
of
short-term
rentals
in
the
island
and
the
implications
of
that
trend
for
the
future.
F
F
This
matches
the
language.
That's
in
attachment
f,
that
was
in
your
packet.
The
first
step
is
to
define
those
two
uses:
high
occupancy
short
term
rentals
and
high
floor
area
ratio,
single
family
structures
and
it
to
examine
their
location
and
trends
and
just
be
clear.
The
high
floor
area
ratio,
single
family
structures
refers
to
the
ratio
between
the
amount
of
built
area
of
a
structure
and
the
size
of
the
lot
that
it's
on.
F
So
a
lot
of
structure
and
a
little
lot
if
you
want
to
think
of
it
that
way,
so
we
want
to
define
those
two
terms
for
us:
we'll
survey
the
occupancies
of
short-term
rentals
in
the
island.
We
have
the
benefit
of
air
dna
and
we'll
have
the
software
that
we're
contracting
with
soon
to
be
able
to
examine
that
we
could
select
one
or
two
ranges
for
a
very
high
occupancy
and
high
occupancy
rentals.
F
We'll
examine
their
locations,
we'll
create
maps
of
where
those
structures
are
located
and
include
residential
properties,
not
used
for
short-term
rentals
and
including
their
neighborhoods
and
zoning
districts.
So
we
can
get
a
good
sense
of
where
they
are
and
then
we'll
examine
trends
determine
the
extent
to
which
the
number
and
location
have
changed
over
time
for
each
of
those
two
types
of
structures
and
then
we'll
analyze.
The
impacts
and
effects
of
those
two
uses
on
the
island.
F
F
A
Excuse
me,
I
think,
you're
going
in
the
right
direction
once
we
get
by
this
first
step,
that
is
the
enactment
of
the
short-term
rental
ordinance,
as
it
may
finally
come
out
from
the
town
council,
and
I
support
the
idea
of
evaluating
and
truly
understanding
these
high
occupancy
properties
and
how
they're
impacting
not
only
the
neighbors
around
those,
but
also
the
broader
island
and
the
character
of
the
island.
So
I
support
these
completely.
Thank
you.
A
J
J
I
go
back
to
the
piece
of
how
we're
going
to
not
only
stop
this
so
that
the
imbalance
doesn't
continue,
but
also
move
towards
a
balance
that
we
all
agree
on.
Okay-
and
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
let's
say
spelled
out
here,
but
I
think
as
part
of
this
process
that
that
needs
to
be
a
part
of
the
conversation.
G
A
lot
of
this
leads
me
to
wonder
where
this
will
lead,
because
as
much
as
I
hate
to
admit
it,
sometimes
my
love
for
research
and
the
details
also
stands
in
the
way
of
making
any
real
progress.
And
so,
as
I
look
at
this,
that's
some
of
what
I
see
and
then
I
see
judgment
calls
in
terms
of
if
it
should
be
necessary
or
warrant
and
I'm
wondering
who's.
F
G
D
D
I
was
going
to
use
the
word
inflammation
points,
the
the
places
that
we
hear
the
most
the
most
complaints.
So
I
think
that
getting
a
hold
of
the
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
then,
secondly,
understanding
the
impacts
of
an
increasing
number
of
short-term
rentals
is
important
because
there
may
be
anecdotal
evidence.
D
There
may
be
conclusions
that
we
make
based
on
intuition,
but
we
don't
have
the
information
yet
nor
do
nor
have
we
really
teased
out
because
we
don't
have
the
data,
those
those
real
impacts.
So
I
I
think
you're
on
target
for
both
of
these,
and
I
also
am
positive
about
the
work
process
that
you've
outlined.