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City Services & Innovation Technology- Docket #0259- Order for a hearing to discuss renaming the Roxbury Branch of the Boston Public Library to the Nubian Library.
A
A
B
C
D
D
E
F
G
Kenzie
Bach
I'm,
a
city
council,
chair
of
the
committee
on
city
services
and
innovation
technology,
and
also
the
district
8
City
councilor.
It's
Wednesday,
April,
19th
2023,
and
we're
here
today
for
virtual
hearing
on
docket0259
order
for
a
hearing
to
discuss
renaming
the
Roxbury
branch
of
the
Boston
Public
Library
to
the
Nubian
Library.
G
This
matter
was
sponsored
by
councilor
Tanya
Fernandez
Anderson
and
was
referred
to
the
committee
on
January
25th
2023.,
in
accordance
with
chapter
107
of
the
acts
of
2022
modifying
30,
certain
requirements
of
the
open
meeting
law
and
relieving
public
bodies
of
certain
requirements,
including
the
requirement
that
public
bodies
conduct
its
mean
conduct
their
meetings
in
a
public
place
that
is
open
and
physically
accessible
to
the
public.
Our
staff.
Can
we
just
mute
everyone
who's?
Not
me
right
now,
the
city
council
will
be
conducting
this
working
session
remotely.
G
G
This
hearing
is
also
being
recording,
recorded
and
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
city-council
TV.
It
will
be
rebroadcast
on
Xfinity
channel
8,
RCN,
channel
82
and
Verizon
FiOS
channel
964.
I
will
be
taking
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
this
hearing.
So
if
you
are
watching-
and
you
want
to
testify
and
you're
not
already
signed
up-
please
email,
cora.montron
boston.gov
to
sign
up
so
that's
c-o-r-a,
dot,
m-o-n-t-r-o-n-d
at
boston.gov
and
Cora
will
get
you
the
link.
G
G
I
will
go
to
college
just
for
a
brief
opening
statement,
starting
with
sponsor
and
then
I
will
be
going
over
to
president
David
Leonard
from
the
Boston
Public
Library
and
again
Vice
chair
of
the
trustees
of
the
Boston
Public
Library,
Evelyn,
Arana,
Ortiz,
first
and
then,
as
mentioned
before
as
and
then
we'll
have
after
we
hear
from
them
and
do
questions
counselor
questions
to
them.
G
We'll
hear
from
an
Advocates
panel
and
I'll
read
out
all
the
names
on
that
when
we
get
there
so
without
further
Ado
I'll
pass
it
over
to
the
lead,
sponsor
councilor
Anderson.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
good
morning.
Everyone
so
happy
to
be
here
to
convene
over
this
conversation,
I've
heard
from
Community
Advocates,
those
on
the
panel
as
well
in
the
community
as
well
as
constituents
that
this
has
been.
H
This
has
been
an
effort,
and
you
will
hear
more
from
the
panel
about
exactly
what
steps
were
taken
in
terms
of
the
community
engagement
process,
to
renaming
the
Roxbury
library
to
Nubian,
Square
library
and
from
what
I've
heard,
there's
been
a
consensus
from
the
community
that
they,
the
overwhelming
consensus
or
agreement
to
rename
the
library
to
Newton
Square,
so
I
I'm
happy
to
be
here.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
creating
the
space.
The
platform
for
us
to
have
this
discussion.
H
C
Sorry
I
was
on
me
good
morning.
Everyone
happy
to
be
here
with
you
and
counselor
Bach
cheer
box.
Is
this
your
I
know
hearing
that
you're
cheering
in
your
attender
with
us
I
just
wanted
to?
Is
it.
G
C
So
we
want
to
uplift
that
so
your
final
virtual
so
happy
that
it's
something
that
is
being
community-led
and
it
has
something
to
do
with
some
sort
of
History,
because
libraries
have
lots
of
History.
So
it
has
some
sense
of
relevance
to
you
and
the
things
that
you
deeply
care
about.
So
I'm
happy
that
the
the
audience
has
step
up
to
the
plate.
To
make
sure
your
final
virtual
I'm
hearing
is
is
something
that
will
be
memorable.
C
I
am
council
at
large,
Julia
Mejia.
Sorry,
I
can't
be
on
camera
I'm
going
to
be
transitioning
in
and
out
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
but
wanted
to
just
show
my
support
for
the
renaming
of
the
library.
I
know
that
the
community
worked
really
hard
at
renaming
the
square
to
Nubian
and
I.
C
Just
think
this
is
the
continuation
of
really
centering
the
voices
of
the
people
and
creating
space
for
us
to
hear,
and
so
just
want
to
go
on
the
record
in
my
support
and
look
forward
to
listening
in
and
figuring
out
how
I
can
what
my
colleague
counselor
Anderson
as
she
continues
to
Shepherd
this
along.
Thank
you
all.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
glad
to
be
here
with
my
colleagues
and
came
here
to
support
councilor,
Tanya,
Fernandez
Anderson
and
what
she
wants
to
do
and
I
know
what
she
is
doing
is
bringing
the
community
together
and
I
came
here
to
show
my
support
and
respect
to
Council
Fernandez
Anderson
in
the
process
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
important
work
of
Boston,
Public,
Libraries
and
David
Leonard
as
well,
but
also
the
Roxbury
Community.
That's
also
here,
I
see
a
friend
that
I
haven't
seen
in
a
long
time.
I
Siddique
cambon
so
I
want
to
want
to
say
hello
to
him
as
well
and
glad
to
be
here
I'm
here
to
listen,
but
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
support
my
Council
colleague
Council
Fernandez
Anderson.
Thank
you.
G
Foreign,
thank
you
so
much
president
Flynn,
yeah
and
I'll
say.
For
my
part,
you
know
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
a
chance
to
have
this
hearing
before
I
have
to
give
up
this
chair
I
think
that
our
libraries
are
really
very
beloved
in
all
of
our
communities
and
I
know
that's
true
in
Roxbury
as
well
and-
and
you
know
what
I
think
that
that
passion
about
what's
name
our
libraries
is
just
it's
another
sign
of
how
much
they
matter
to
people.
G
So
you
know
I
think
what
I
think
today
our
discussion,
I
imagine,
is
going
to
focus
on
sort
of
two
areas.
So
one
is
sort
of
the
procedural
question
of
naming
of
libraries
and
how
that
works
and
I
know.
G
There's
some
differences
opinion
on
that
front
and
then
also
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
hear
substantively
from
the
public
about
what
you
want
the
library
named
and
why
so
trying
you
know
mainly
in
my
role
as
chair
here
today,
to
just
create
this
space,
to
hear
from
to
hear
from
all
of
the
advocates
in
the
library
and
counselors
and
looking
forward
to
that
before.
G
J
Let
us
go
right
to
other
people
along,
but
just
happy
to
be
on
and
listen
to
this
conversation.
So
I'll
speak
more
when
it's
time
for
comments.
Thank
you.
G
K
K
We
continue
to
appreciate
the
council's
interest
and
concern
for
the
entire
Boston
Public
Library
System,
but
especially
its
branches.
My
testimony
today
will
be
followed
by
that
of
our
vice
chair
of
the
Board
of
Trustees
Evelyn,
Arana
Ortiz,
and
some
of
the
facts
we
will
present
may
be
repeated
in
both
testimonies
carved
over
the
entrance
to
the
central
library
and
integrated
into
the
redesign
of
all
of
our
new
and
recently
renovated
branches.
Is
the
phrase
free
to
all
what
this
means
to
our
everyday
operations?
K
It
is
also
worth
noting
that
the
Roxbury
branch
is
the
largest
branch
in
the
system,
with
approximately
27
000
square
feet,
a
signal
of
needing
to
serve
the
entirety
of
the
neighborhood
in
fiscal
2012.
The
city
of
Boston,
first
allocated
funding
for
a
programming
study,
new
signage
and
some
minor
improvements
to
the
space
itself.
K
The
name
Roxbury
itself
has
Rich
resonance
with
the
neighborhood's
local
black
history
and
black
community
following
public
testimony
on
both
names
and
robust
discussion
by
the
trustees.
The
chair,
Bob
Gallery,
noted
that
there
was
clear
consensus
that
the
name
should
be
changed
from
Dudley,
as
is
the
chair's
prerogative.
K
Currently,
we
would
direct
you
to
the
minutes
of
the
board
meeting
in
question,
as
well
as
to
the
subsequent
editorial
By
The
Bay
State
banners,
local
historian
and
journalist
Mel
Miller
in
support
of
this
decision
for
more
information,
including
prior
statements
by
community
members
that
were
given
in
testimony
at
the
time
Mel
Miller's
editorial
States
Roxbury
is
a
historically
significant
name
that
has
meaning
for
those
who
have
called
Roxbury
Home
for
several
Generations
I
continue
to
quote
when
the
United
States
of
America
was
created.
The
first
church
in
Elliott
Square
was
already
established
in
1632.
K
In
1783,
Massachusetts
became
the
first
state
to
outlaw
slavery.
A
son
of
Roxbury
moorefield's
story,
a
Harvard
lawyer
and
descendant
of
early
British
settlers
became
the
first
president
of
the
NAACP
opposed
he
maintained
on
his
death,
while
William
Lloyd
Garrison
was
originally
from
Newburyport.
He
lived
in
Roxbury
when
he
established
the
Liberator
newspaper
in
1831.
That
was
the
voice
of
the
national
anti-slavery
movement.
In
the
U.S,
the
book
Boston's
Banner
years
in
1965
to
2015
a
saga
of
black
success
lists
many
black
Achievers
identified
with
Roxbury.
K
Every
Bostonian
aware
of
our
history
should
support
this
decision.
Closing
the
quotes
from
Mel
Miller's
editorial
Roxbury
today
is
among
the
city's
most
diverse
neighborhoods.
According
to
the
2020
census,
the
population
of
the
neighborhood
includes
41
percent
of
residents,
who
identified
as
black
while
30
percent.
Almost
a
third
of
roxbury's
residents,
identify
as
Hispanic
Latino
categories
from
the
Census
six
percent,
as
Asian-American
Pacific,
Islander
and
seven
percent
identify
as
biracial.
K
K
The
authority
of
the
Board
of
Trustees
of
the
library
stems
from
the
Massachusetts
state
statute,
including
the
bpl's
enabling
legislation
of
1848
and
acts
of
incorporation
of
1878,
which
read
in
part
quote
said.
Corporation
shall
have
the
authority
to
take
and
hold
real
and
personal
estate
which
may
be
given
granted
bequeathed
or
devised
to
it
and
accepted
by
the
trustees
for
the
benefit
of
the
public
library
of
the
city
of
Boston
or
any
branch
library
or
any
purpose
connected
therewith.
K
The
legislation
continues
said
trustees
shall
have
the
general
care
and
control
of
the
Central
Public
Library
in
said
City
and
of
all
branches
thereof
which
have
been
or
which
may
Hereafter
be
established
together
with
the
buildings
and
rooms
containing
the
same
and
the
fixtures
and
Furniture
connected
there
with
and
quote
by
State
Statute
and
175
years
of
practice.
The
naming
of
buildings
and
spaces
within
BPL
buildings
has
always
been
within
the
purview
of
the
trustees
of
the
library.
K
K
While
the
council's
current
order
as
written,
proposes
a
different
Council
course
of
action,
and
while
we
believe
there
is
no
action
for
the
council
to
take
Beyond
today's
hearing,
should
the
council
desire
to
revisit
this
issue
practice
would
dictate
that
the
appropriate
course
of
action
would
be
for
the
council
to
convey
its
desires
in
writing
to
the
trustees
of
the
Boston
Public
Library.
Regarding
any
such
request,
I
would
like
to
close
with
one
thought,
while
the
Roxbury
Branch
does
serve
the
entire
Roxbury
Community.
K
We
also
do
recognize,
of
course,
that
it
anchors
the
physical
geography
now
known
as
Nubian
Square.
We
have
proposed
that
the
BPL
refer
to
this
Branch,
going
forward
in
its
everyday
correspondence
and
literature,
as
the
Roxbury
Branch
at
Nubian
Square
in
our
best
efforts
to
satisfy
both
constituencies.
L
All
right,
thank
you.
David
good
morning,
Madam,
chair
and
steam
members
of
the
committee
I
would
like
to
express
my
greatest
gratitude
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
my
testimony
on
behalf
of
the
Boston
Public
Library
trustees
and,
as
David
noted,
we
serve
as
a
corporation
with
General
management
and
control
of
old
property,
Affairs
and
funds
of
the
corporation.
L
L
Let
me
allowed
you
know,
allow
me
to
provide
you
some
historical
context
on
the
fellows
athenium,
which
was
established
in
1852
after
the
passing
of
Caleb
fellows
a
successful
Seaman
who
on
bequeath,
as
you
know,
he
bequest
a
substantial
portion
of
his
wealth
to
construct
a
library
in
Roxbury
that
held
over
5
000
books.
The
library
was
built
in
memory
of
his
mother
and
his
happiest
years
of
life.
L
In
you
know,
while
living
in
Roxbury
in
1974,
the
assets
of
the
fellows
atheniums
were
transferred
to
the
Boston
Public
Library
Roxbury
branch
and
through
the
fellows
athenium
committee,
the
Board
of
Trustees
Works,
in
partnership
with
the
friends
of
Roxbury
Branch,
to
select
and
fund
top
quality
instructional
programming
at
the
Roxbury
branch
through
my
years
of
service.
I
have
had
the
pleasure
of
working
closely
with
the
friends
and
witnessing
their
unwavering
dedication
to
support
the
vibrancy
of
the
Roxbury
Community.
L
Just
going
to
recap,
you
know
our
annual
trustee
meeting,
which
David
did
you
know
it
took
place
on
May
26
of
2020
the
year
of
covid.
L
We
reviewed
capital
projects
which
included
the
status
of
the
Roxbury
branch,
which
had
been
closed
for
a
couple
of
years
due
to
Renovations,
and
it
was
due
to
reopen
in
the
fall
and
naming
considerations
was
proposed
to
the
community.
Prior
to
the
meeting,
the
trustees
received
letters
from
two
organizations
advocating
for
different
names
for
the
branch.
The
Nubian
Square
Coalition
proposed
the
name
of
Nubian
Square
Branch,
while
the
friends
of
the
Roxbury
Branch
suggested
the
name
Roxbury
branch.
L
After
a
thorough
discussion,
the
trustees
decided
to
invite
public
comment
to
hear
from
the
community.
The
feedback
from
the
community
was
valuable
and
the
key
stakeholders
from
you
know
that
participated
such
as
employees,
members
of
the
Nubian
Square
coalition,
Friends
of
the
library
you
know:
Roxbury
Branch,
Roxbury,
Crossing,
historical
trust,
Roxbury,
historical
society
and
lifelong
residents
of
the
neighborhood
expressing
their
opinions.
L
The
overall
perspective
was
that
the
community
supported
the
renaming
of
the
square
to
Nubian
Square,
but
preferred
the
Showcase
showcasing
roxbury's
Rich
history.
By
naming
the
library,
Roxbury
branch
based
on
the
feedback
received,
the
trustees
had
held
the
boat
and
the
motion
to
rename
The
Dudley
French
library
to
Roxbury
Branch
library
was
approved,
with
a
vote
of
seven
to
four
shortly.
After
surely,
thereafter,
Melvin
Miller,
founder
and
owner
of
the
Bay
State
Banner
wrote
the
editorial
that
David
so
graciously
read.
L
Speaking
from
my
personal
experience,
I
am
a
proud
Puerto
Rican,
who
has
lived
in
the
city
for
over
30
years
and
a
frequent
patron
of
many
businesses
in
Nubian
Square.
As
part
of
my
research
of
renaming,
the
library
I
spoke
with
both
patrons
and
business
owners
in
the
area.
The
feedback
that
I
received
was
unanimous.
They
expressed
concerns
that
naming
the
library
after
a
particular
ethnic
group
would
elineate
other
members
of
the
community
and
that
Library
should
be
welcome
to
all.
L
As
such,
there
was
a
consensus
that
the
library
should
be
renamed
in
a
way
that
reflects
the
diverse
history
and
culture
of
the
Roxbury
Community,
while
also
maintaining
an
inclusive
and
welcoming
environment
to
all.
In
closing
the
Boston
Public
Library
bylaws
gives
the
trustees
the
power
you
know
to
manage
and
control
over
all
the
library,
property,
Affairs
and
funds.
We
believe
that
we
have
done
the
necessary
due
diligence
in
the
renaming
of
the
branch.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
G
Thank
you
so
much
questionna
and
president
Leonard
I'll
now
go
to
counselors
for
questions
in
order
for
arrival,
I'll
save
mine
for
the
end
and
yeah
and
counselors
again,
I'll,
just
just
because
we've
got
the
advocate
panel
here
I
will
keep
time,
and
so,
if
you
see
me
raise
the
gavel,
let's
just
finish
up
so
we'll
start
with
the
sponsor
councilor
Anderson.
G
H
What's
concerning
about
some
of
the
comments
that
I've
heard
thus
far,
is
that
when
you
begin
to
make
this
narrative
that
if
something
is
Afrocentric,
if
something
becomes
about
the
black
community,
especially
the
African-American
community,
that
it
becomes
exclusive
what's
offensive
about,
that,
is
that
historically,
the
black,
Americans
and
black
communities
have
been
ostracized,
oppressed,
enslaved
genocide
and
excluded,
and
always
at
the
bottom
of
the
total
poll,
always
last
always
not
prioritized,
and
yet
this
community
seems
to
be
the
very
community
that
has
made
it
possible
for
Latino
women,
like
yourself,
African
immigrant
women
like
myself
to
actually
have
opportunities
in
this
country
in
this
state.
H
However,
still
the
community,
whenever
it
gets
gentrified,
we
make
excuses
that
the
Immigrant
population
needs
to
be
included
as
though
the
African-American
Community
has
not
included
that
community
that
the
community,
the
black
Americans,
should
make
way
for
everybody
else,
including
processes
in
the
city.
That
includes
underrepresented
communities,
for
example.
Even
when
it's
a
diverse
program
or
a
Diversity
Program
to
include
more
people,
white
women
then
be
considered
the
underrepresented
community.
So
again
the
African-American
people
will
take
the
last
seat.
H
It
is
important
and
I
can
give
you
all
the
research,
as
you
have,
your
research
to
completely
I,
wouldn't
say
dismiss,
but
it's
important
that
we
use
research
in
terms
of
in
order
to
atone
for
the
harms
that
this
city,
that
this
country
has
done
to
the
African-American
people,
that
we
create
specifically
intentional
Afrocentric
culture,
districts,
Afrocentric,
identity,
eye
for
Centric,
preserve,
Afrocentric
history
for
identity's
sake
for
cultural
sake.
H
H
How
dare
you
say
that,
because
now
Roxbury
is
gentrified
that
it
now,
if
we
take
landmarks,
if
we
take
restoric
facilities
or
not
even
historic-
and
we
say
this
bit
right
here-
we
need
it
to
be
to
represent
the
Afrocentric
culture.
This
right
here
needs
the
name
needs
to
represent.
What
historically
has
been
here,
or
at
least
that
it
needs
to
speak
to
the
identity
of
the
African
boys
and
girls,
the
African-American
boys
and
girls.
Then
it's
called
exclusive.
H
I
have
with
all
due
respect
and
David
Mr
President
Evelyn
I.
Thank
you
for
being
here
I.
Thank
you
for
your
work,
but
I
think
that
we
need
to
have
a
very
honest,
a
very
transparent
conversation
about
what
this
means
in
this
black
community,
gentrified
or
not.
Rex
Roxbury
is
experiencing
the
fastest
rate
of
gentrification
to
no
fault
of
their
own
because
they
are
disinterfranchised
because
they
are
oppressed
because
they
are
pushed
back
now.
H
It's
not
acceptable
and
I
understand
your
process
and
your
reviews,
or
a
article
from
the
banner
does
not
speak
for
all.
That
is
one
person's
opinion
and
the
fact
that
you
have
heard
overwhelmingly
response
from
the
community
that
they
wanted
to
be
named
Nubian
library.
But
yet
you
felt
that
to
preserve
inclusiveness
that
you
needed
to
name
it
Roxbury.
H
It's
not
sufficient
to
make
your
argument,
but
I
yield
my
time
now,
because
I
would
love
to
hear
from
my
colleagues.
I
would
love
to
hear
from
the
panelists
to
hear
about
their
hard
work
and
their
research
and
why
this
is
important.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
councilor
Anderson,
councilmania,.
C
Your
meeting
I
am
a
mute.
How
dare
you
mute
mean
I'm,
sorry,
so
I
I,
so
I
I
am
so
first.
C
Let
me
just
start
off
by
thanking
the
administration
for
being
here
and
and
for
the
record
stating
that
I'm,
an
afro-latina
which
means
I
claim
my
black
roots
and
just
like
you
I,
also
grew
up
here
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
David
I,
do
appreciate
you
utilizing
my
hashtag
all
means
all,
because
all
does
mean
all
and
all
the
truths
and
all
the
struggles
in
all
the
ways
that
the
black
community
in
Roxbury
has
worked
to
just
get
ahead
and
I.
C
Think
for
me
as
a
Latina
as
a
black
Latina
as
an
afro-latina
I
think
that
it
is
not
about
my
culture.
I,
don't
think
the
name
will
make
me
feel
like
I
am
not
represented
in
that
Community
I
think
it's
really
about
how
we
uplift
other
communities
that
have
come
before
us
and
historically
Roxbury
has
always
been
associated
with
the
black
community.
Despite
who
lives
there
or
not
right.
C
So
it's
really
about
censoring
it
in
a
historical
perspective
and
uplifting
that
little
circle
that
little
square,
because
right
now
it's
getting
smaller
in
terms
of
just
the
the
way
the
situation
is
happening
in
terms
of
development
right.
So
I
just
think
it's
important
for
me
to
reaffirm
my
support
as
an
afro-latina
recognizing
that
I
see
myself
reflected
in
the
community
and
that
I
I
think
that
this
is
really
so
much
bigger
than
just
the
name.
C
It
really
is
about
valuing
the
will
of
the
residents
of
The
Who
live
there
now,
because
there
was
a
ballot
that
we
voted
on
well
at
least
a
sector
of
the
city,
to
change
the
name
to
Nubian
square
right,
so
that
determined
the
will
of
the
residents
that
lived
there
and
very
similar
to
the
people
who
are
there
now.
C
This
is
the
will
of
the
residents
that
are
there
so
in
the
spirit
of
honoring,
the
people
I
just
I'm,
going
to
reaffirm
my
support
in
that
way.
So.
C
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
David
David
Lennon
in
in
the
public
library
team.
That's
present
and
my
colleagues
as
well
Evelyn.
Thank
you
for
your
important
work
as
well.
I
said
at
the
beginning
that
I
support
my
district
city,
council
and
I.
I
You
know
the
good
support
for
district
city
councils
in,
in
my
opinion,
to
support
each
other
on
issues
impacting
what's
happening
in
their
particular
District
I,
so
I
I
support,
District
Council
of
China
Fernandez
Anderson
also
want
to
say
thank
you
to
David
Leonard
David
Lennon
in
the
in
the
library
team
for
the
important
work
they
do
across
the
City
libraries
bring
us
together
and
they're
a
welcoming
place
and
and
I
just
want
to
thank
and
thank
David
for
his
leadership
and
in
Council
Fernandez
Anderson
as
well
and
I.
I
Think
I
think
this
discussion.
People
might
agree.
People
might
disagree,
but
I
think
that
I
think
there's
probably
some
common
common
ground.
If,
if
we
continue
to
talk-
and
we
continue
to
keep
dialogue
open
and
listen
to
each
other,
learn
from
each
other
and
and
respect
each
other,
I
think
I
think
I
think
that's
the
critical
part
of
this
conversation.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
G
Thank
you,
president
Flynn
councilman.
J
All
right,
yeah,
thank
you
and
thank
you
to
David
in
the
library.
For
speaking,
a
lot
of
thoughts
on
you
know,
names
matter.
I,
remember
and
I
also
agree
that
you
know
a
process
matters.
The
Richard
J
Murphy
School
was
named
after
my
grandfather,
but
one
of
the
you
know.
J
You
know
you
sticking
up
for
your
District.
It
reminds
me
of
yesterday's
hearing
Council
Fernandez
Anderson,
where
maybe
we
don't
have
the
right
to
make
a
change,
but
you
putting
this
out
there
and
having
your
voice
and
letting
neighborhood
people
speak
up
also
is
very
important,
so
I
do
appreciate
the
process.
So
maybe
we
need
to
look
at
how
do
we
change
names
and
who
does
have
that
responsibility?
So
I
don't
want
to
start.
J
You
know
supporting
changes
one-offs
if
it
if
it
is
needed
to
make
a
system
change
of
how
names
get
put
onto
buildings
across
the
city
or
under
different
you
know,
departments.
Then
that's
a
conversation
I'm
here
for
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
you
know
it's
a
it's.
A
tough
call
but
I
appreciate
that
we're
here
and
I
know
that
we'll
be
hearing
from
community
members
after
so
here
to
listen
for
that.
So
thank
you.
J
G
You
councilor
Murphy,
president
Leonard
I
was
wondering-
and
this
is
sort
of
a
question
on
behalf
of
the
committee
like
so
I
I-
appreciated
that
your
testimony
about
sort
of
the
library's
process,
and
it
would
be
great
to
get
that
in
writing
if
we
could
just
for
the
record,
has
has
the
public
facilities,
commission
or
Corporation
Council
or
sort
of
anybody
from
City
of
Boston
Proper
side
like
issued
any
legal
like
comment
or
language
or
letter
related
to
the
sort
of
interaction
of
the
trustee
statute
and
and
the
public
facilities
naming
stuff.
K
I'm
happy
I,
testimony
in
writing
and
I
just
want
to
recognize
and
give
the
utmost
respect
to
the
comments
from
all
of
the
counselors
who've
spoken
so
far,
both
about
the
library
and
also
about
where,
where
we
encounter
issues
of
our
racial
history,
which
is
very
charged
in
the
city
of
Boston,
so
I
want
to
just
appreciate
centering
some
of
this
conversation
in
that
work.
We
are.
We
want
the
library,
Wants,
To,
Be,
A
Champion,
of
everybody's
rights
when
it
comes
to
these
issues
and
I.
K
Think
one
point
that
may
have
gotten
lost
in
in
some
of
my
testimony
was
that,
as
the
trustees
responded
to
the
community
feedback
that
we
received
during
that
may
board
meeting,
it
was
from
Representatives
across
the
neighborhood
and
I
know,
there's
a
sense
that
there
may
be
an
over
overwhelming
desire.
I've
heard
that
word
used
a
couple
of
times.
That
was
not
what
we
heard
at
the
time.
So
I
just
want
to
want
to
a
footnote
to
footnote
those
comments,
counselor
Bob,
regarding
the
the
jurisdictional
issue.
K
We
have
not
gotten
a
any
specific
determination,
and
so
that
would
be
a
matter
that
we
would
have
to
resolve
should
should
this
want
to
go
forward
in
a
way
different
than
than
what
I
had
outlined.
K
G
Yeah
and
Clarity
on
that
end,
so
I'm
going
to
put
that
on
my
list.
Yeah
and
I
just
want
to
I
want
to
thank
you
and
Evelyn
for
being
here
and
for
your
service
and
for
you.
G
It
it
is
obviously
the
branch
library
in
Nubian
Square
in
Roxbury,
but
really
I,
think
the
whole
city
is
very
proud
of
this
Branch
Library
I
certainly
feel
it's
I'm
not
lucky
enough
to
have
it
in
my
district,
but
it's
it's
really
a
wonderful
building
and,
as
I
said
at
the
start,
I
think
that
this
conversation
about
the
name
just
reflects
how
proud
folks
are
of
it
and
kind
of
that
question
of
how
to
how
to
best
regard
it
but
I,
rather
than
making
more
comments
myself.
G
I
really
want
to
get
to
our
sorry.
That's
someone
else's
timer,
so
I
really
want
to
get
to
our
community
Advocates
I've
been
waiting
patiently
here,
so
I
am
going
to
go
to
that
panel
next
and
then
counselors
can
ask
questions
of
the
panel
as
well.
So
thank
you
so
much
to
the
library
and
and
yeah.
If
you
can
just
submit
that
testimony
David.
That
would
be
fantastic
and
Evelyn.
If
you
do
have
yours
written
as
well.
That
would
be
great.
G
Thank
you
all
right,
all
right.
So
now,
I'm
gonna,
the
next
panel
up
is
going
to
be
Mr,
Siddiqui,
kamban
who's.
The
director
of
the
black
Community
Information
Center,
and
also
the
chair
of
the
dubian
square
Coalition
and
then
Miss
jamada
Smith
who's,
a
member
of
the
black
Community
Information
Center
and
Nubian
Square
Coalition
and
Dr
Reginald
Jackson.
Also
a
member
and
I'll
go
first
to
Mr
Kimball.
E
Just
want
to
say
a
good
day
to
everybody
and
I
appreciate
this
opportunity.
I
consider
it
to
be
a
historic
moment,
and
let
me
just
say
what
I'm
about
to
present
here
from
Chrono
chronological
perspective
in
terms
of
History
differs
from
what
Mr
Leonard
presented.
E
E
E
Just
to
give
an
example-
and
let
me
just
say
that
a
lot
of
good
people
have
worked
with
me
through
the
years
when
you
talk
about
the
the
mall,
the
mecca
Mall
in
Grove
Hall,
the
late
great
Walter
little
had
that
Vision
he
owned
that
property
and
he
Enlisted
the
support
of
the
black
Community
Information
Center,
because
at
that
time
is
when
cdcs
were
emerging
and
they
were
both
seven
groups
that
wanted
to
be
the
CDC
for
Grove
Hall
and
he
said:
could
you
please
bring
them
together
that
led
to
the
formation
of
the
ndca,
Grove,
Hall
and
eventually
the
building
of
the
mall?
E
We
were
actually
with
the
support
of
the
community.
With
the
Flint
Michigan
Water
Crisis,
we
were
able
to
facilitate
a
process
where
two
trailer
struck
loads
of
water
was
sent
down
there.
There
was
a
time
that
the
students
at
Northeastern
black
students
say
were
concerned
that
their
John
D
O'brien
Institute,
was
going
to
be
taken
from
them
and
we
worked
with
them
and
based
on
their
work.
E
We
now
have
that
during
The
Institute
over
there
more
powerful
than
ever
so,
like
I,
said,
that's
just
kind
of
give
you
an
example
of
some
of
the
things
we
do
in
the
community,
and
oh
I
should
mention
the
fact.
Most
importantly,
we
have
our
own
building
called
Imani
house
in
Dorchester,
which
is
our
headquarters,
but
also
we
have
nine
units
of
housing
for
formerly
homeless
elders
and
individuals
with
mental
health.
E
That
kind
of
gives
you
a
sense
of
what
we
do
to
present
to
me
that
you
know
we
can
do
things
for
ourselves
now.
Let
me
just
say
that
when
it
comes
to
the
issue
of
symbols
and
names
and
what
have
you
throughout
our
community,
we
have
names
that
have
honored
individuals
who
are
involved
in
the
slave
trade
so
before
it
became
a
national
phenomenon.
We
at
the
black
information
center
many
years
ago
led
the
effort
to
have
the
former
Washington
Park
renamed
Malcolm
xpac,
because
George
Washington
had
slaves.
E
We
then
also
led
the
effort
to
in
fact
have
new
Dudley
Street
renamed
Malcolm
X
Boulevard,
because
of
the
fact
that
The
Dudley
family
vis-a-vis
through
then
government
Governor,
Thomas
Dudley
in
1600s,
led
the
effort
for
legislation
to
be
passed
to,
in
fact
legitimate.
You
know
legalize
slavery
in
the
state
of
Massachusetts,
so
once
we
had
done
that,
we
said
you
know
what
we've
got
Dudley
square
and
it's
a
major
contradiction
that
our
primary
commercial
shopping
district
in
the
Highlight
Community
is
named
after
a
slave.
E
Supporting
family
and
I
should
mention
that
our
borders
are
much
more
expensive
than
expansive
than
just
the
commercial
District.
You
walk.
Hampton
Street
across
from
Dudley
of
blue
to
Quincy,
make
a
right
on
Quincy,
then
go
straight
across
through
the
Townsend
back
on
down
to
Columbus,
to
trim
up
and
back
on
down
the
middle
near
cast.
So
that's
our
borders.
E
So
essentially,
what
it
is
is
that
in
terms
of
the
square
name-
and
let
me
just
say
that
formation
of
the
Newton
Square
Coalition
came
because
of
the
fact
that
there
was
so
much
momentum
behind
support
for
the
name,
change
that
that
it
became
a
component
of
the
black
Community
Information
Center
and
led
to
a
ballot
question
November
5th
2019,
where
the
community
overwhelmingly
we're
talking
about
80
to
90
percent
of
the
vote
and
certain
Wards
and
districts
voted
to
change
it
to
Nubian
Square
now.
E
What's
really
interesting
is
that,
prior
to
that
vote,
I
was
down
at
the
State
House
to
arrange
this
made
with
the
office
of
state
representative
China
Tyler,
who,
in
fact,
as
a
trustee
board
member
for
the
library
and
essentially
what
it
was.
We
were
thinking.
Well,
we
want
to
change
the
name
for
the
the
station,
also,
which
is
the
primary,
the
largest
in
terms
of
population
Transportation
portal
in
New
England
about
forty
five
thousand
people
a
day
come
true
there.
E
So
we
said
well
after
we
get
the
square
name,
that
we
want
to
change
the
name
of
the
station,
so
I'm
down
at
the
State
House,
give
my
presentation
to
the
transportation
committee
and
essentially
after
I,
completed
it
a
couple
of
State
reps
who
I
did
not
know
they
said
Mr
kambon.
If
you
do
well
with
that
vote
in
terms
of
the
square,
we
think
that
you're
going
to
have
a
pretty
clear
path
to
the
changing
of
the
name
of
the
station.
E
E
That
told
us
that
the
legislature
down
there
based
on
the
result
of
the
vote
in
terms
of
getting
the
name
for
the
square.
They
took
the
action
on
their
own
to
rename
it
to
Nubian
station,
and
so
we
said,
okay
well.
Next,
our
Target
is
going
to
be
the
library
and
we
felt
that
the
momentum
would
carry
over
from
what
happened
with
the
square
and
the
station
as
it
pertains
to
the
library.
E
Now
we
we
did
a
petition,
we
did
Community
meetings
and
what
have
you
about
wanting
and
we
wanted
to
be
called
the
Nubian
Library,
so
I
reached
out
to
the
Boston
Public
Library
to
Mr,
Lennon
and
Mr
Leonard
indicated
he
was
well
aware
of
of
the
square
name
and
the
station
name,
and
that
we
were
looking
at
the
library,
and
so
he
indicated
that
you
know
what
we
like
to
have
a
community
session
to
get
feedback
from
the
community.
E
Based
on
what
we've
been
hearing
in
support
of
the
Nubian
Library
name,
we
said
no
problem
so
consequently,
before
that
meeting
could
be
convened,
I
get
a
notification
from
Mr
Leonard
through
his
secretary
Miss
Pamela
Carver,
basically
inviting
me
to
the
maze
26.
E
trustee
board
meeting
that
we
refer
to
so
in
this
document
which
I
have
in
my
possession.
It
stated
that
the
name
issue
issue
beyond
the
agenda,
but
no
vote
will
be
taken,
so
it
was
virtual
I'm.
There
my
presence
is
there,
and
so
what
happens?
I
went
to
the
agenda
and
then
trustee
board.
Now
let
me
I
heard
this
whole
thing
around
all
this
testimony
and
the
preparations
for
that
around
the
issue
of
the
name.
The
then
trustee
board
chair,
Mr,
Robert
Gallery,
stood
up
and
said.
You
know
what
I
know.
E
E
Now
I
knew
right
away
that
that
was
not
spontaneous
on
his
part
and
now,
when
I
hear
this
thing
about
the
amount
of
folks
who
testified
in
behalf
of
it
look
here,
I
was
there
virtually
and
the
only
thing
they
got
was
one
phone
call
from
a
resident
who
I'm,
assuming
they
contacted
in
advance
that
called
in
it
was
Mr
I
can't
remember
it's
Mrs
tessell,
it
was
Tesla
Collins,
Mrs,
Collins,
Tessa,
Collins
wife,
who
called
in
that
was
the
only
voice
that
happened
now.
E
So
subsequently,
what
happened
was
that
we
reached
out
about
the
unfairness
of
the
situation,
and
so
let
me
just
say
that
it's
it's
really
unfortunate.
Let
me
just
say
that
first
of
all
mayor,
then
well,
prior
to
her
becoming
elected
mayor,
Wu
said
that
she
absolutely
supported
the
Nubian
name
and
that
the
bottom
line
is
that
even
Mr
Leonard
himself
stated
that
we
at
the
library
recognize
that
the
substantial
sentiment
for
the
Nubian
Library
name
and
that's
when
he
offered
the
alternative
which
he
just
mentioned.
E
But
what
he
did
mention
was
that
when
the
question
was
raised
about
the
name
which
we
rejected
overall
anyhow
when
he
said
the
Roxbury
public
Branch
library
in
Louisiana
Square,
he
admitted
that
the
on
the
official
City
record.
It
would
be
the
Roxbury
Public
branch
Public
Library,
but
it
would
be
in
addition
of
new
in
Nubian.
Square
would
only
be
an
administrative
gesture,
not
part
of
the
official
record
for
the
city
of
Boston.
So
let
me
just
say
that
this
whole
process
has
been
very
disturbing
in
the
way
it's
been
conducted.
E
For
some
reason,
it
appears
that
there
are
some
folks
who
do
not
want
Nubian
Library
name
and
when
we
talk
about
the
reason
why
we
didn't
want
to
be
called
The,
dubian,
Square
library,
we
wanted
to
be
along
the
Sean
Burton
model
in
New
York.
We
want
not
only
for
it
to
be.
You
know
a
quiet
space
for
people
in
the
community
to
come
to
study,
but
also
that
would
be
research
going
on.
We'd
have
a
Walla
Walla
listing
folks
like
Mel
King,
Doris,
Avanti,
Miss
Cass,
folks
of
that
nature.
E
We
want
recognition,
and
actually,
when
we
talked
about
this
Nubian
Library
name,
we
feel
like
we're,
in
fact
being
disrespected
because
it's
clear
what
the
community
wants
and
for
whatever
reason,
we've
been
getting
this
resistance,
if
you
will
and
and
and
when
I,
when
I
hear
this
talk
about
the
the
sentiment
expressed
by
by
all
these
Community
groups
in
support
of
the
name
I'd
like
to
know
where
that
happened,
because
it
sure
didn't
happen
at
that
meeting
I
was
at.
E
So
let
me
just
say
this
that
the
community
is
thrilled
with
this
name
in
terms
of
and
it's
more
than
just
a
symbolic
act
and
I'll
give
you
an
example:
I
was
talking
to
some
students
there
at
Madison,
Park,
High
and
also
John
D
O'brien
and
one
of
the
youngsters
stepped
up,
and
he
said
brother
sad
Vicky.
He
said:
do
you
know
how
good
it
makes
me
feel?
E
E
So
the
reason
why
we're
here
today
is
that
we
would
hope
that
assignment
emerges,
that
you
know
what
we're
gonna
respect
the
wishes
of
the
Roxbury
Community,
who
has
made
it
very
clear
that
it
wants
the
Nubian
Library
name
because
of
the
fact
that
you
know
I'm.
Just
being
very
candid,
when
I
hear
about
this
community-wise
support
for
the
Roxbury
name.
Is
that
that's
not
a
reality?
It's
not
a
reality
and
I
challenge
anybody
to
prove
that
in
fact
it.
That
is
what
is
going
on
right
now.
E
So
I'll
just
say
that
I
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
do
this
presentation.
It
took
us
eight
years
to
get
the
Newman
Square
name.
We
have
Nubian
station.
We've
been
working
on
this
issue
with
the
library
for
about
two
years
now
three
years,
and
let
me
just
say
this,
that
was
a
meeting
that
the
counselor
Anderson
converted
at
convened
at
the
bowling
building
and
mayor
Wu
was
in
attendance
and
I
brought
up
the
issue
of
the
library.
E
So
when
it
was
over,
she
said
you
know
what
we're
still
looking
at
that
when
the
session
was
over.
This
young
man
came
up
to
me.
Well,
he
wasn't,
he
was,
he
wasn't.
Young
white
male
did
not
know
him
and
he
said,
look
he
says
you
don't
know
me
he
says,
but
what's
the
big
deal
he
said
the
people
have
spoken,
just
changed
the
name
and
then
he
just
walked
away
frustrated.
E
So
that's
not
frustrating
right
now
and
just
you
know,
when
I
hear
the
counselor
talking
about
this
community,
we
feel
like
we're
being
disrespected
with
a
plantation
mentality
about
you
know
what
we
know,
what
these,
what
the
slaves
want,
but
we
know
what's
best
for
them,
and
so
I
would
hope
that
that
mentality
will
be
reversed
and
that
action
will
be
taken
immediately
for
us
to
have
the
Nubian
Library
name,
because
we
want
the
trifecta,
Nubian,
Square,
Nubian
station
and
Nubian
Library
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
G
Thank
you,
Mr
kembon
next
up
is
Miss
jamada
Smith.
D
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
So
my
name
is
Jamal.
The
hurricane
Smith
and
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
being
here
right
now.
I'm
most
of
you
I
think
I'm,
seeing
everybody
on
the
screen
and
I'm
very
happy
for
this,
and
this
is
one
thing
about
the
pandemic.
We
do
get
a
chance
to
just
see
people
up
front
and
personal
I
I'm,
one
of
my
churches,
my
Parish
Saint
Catherine,
Drexel
Paris.
D
We
are
founding
members
of
gbio
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
not
afraid
of
is
to
pray
in
our
own
faith,
tradition
and
so
I've
been
praying
about
this
thing
and
I'm
just
looking
and
listening
and
I
don't
really
tell
my
age,
it's
not
that
I
try
to
hide
it.
I
have
three
great-grandbabies,
you
know,
but
I've
been
around,
and
here
I
am
today
on
the
19th
I.
Think
it's
the
19th
of
April
of
2023.
D
D
You
know,
and
I
I
have
another
c
word
in
its
culture.
It's
culture
and
one
of
the
things
I
love
about
being
a
Bostonian.
When
I
was
a
little
girl.
I
was
raised
by
a
Christian
mother,
a
Muslim
father
in
a
Jewish
neighborhood
John,
the
Shoemaker
was
Irish
the
the
man
next
to
John.
He
did
the
tailoring.
He
was
greet
and
we
have
this
lady.
She
worked
at
Mr
Moulton's
and
she
was
in
Eskimo
we
Vilma
and
well
and
Walter
from
Germany.
D
Jackson
was
mentioned
in
the
other
day
that
the
Boston
Public
Library
is
the
first
library
in
the
United
States
of
America.
So
we
at
first
with
a
whole
bunch
of
things.
Okay-
and
so
my
thing
about
it,
is
that
it's
about
a
culture,
even
some
of
the
black
people
are
afraid
of
a
Nubian.
Don't
be
afraid,
you
know
Irish,
it's
a
culture.
D
I,
don't
know
who
on
here
I
would
like
to
see
a
raise
of
hand
of
the
Irish
people.
You
know
because
I,
okay
and
guess
what
you
see
this
little
green
I
have
here.
You
know
I
I
didn't
used
to
like
the
middle
to
say
this,
because
this
is
what
we've
had
to
go
through
culturally.
Do
you
know
my
mother
is
a
Collins?
D
D
You
don't
have
to
say
Irish
to
go,
go
to
South,
Boston,
okay
and
go
to
Dorchester.
It's
automatically
corned
beef
and
cabbage
and
stuff.
You
don't
have
to
say
Italian.
You
go
to
the
north
side
right,
but
it's
just
about
a
culture
that
doesn't
mean
I
can't
go
live
there,
so
why
do
we
have
to
make
it
such
of
a
big
deal
at
in
2023?
D
And
so
these
are
the
things
I'm
gonna
try
to
calm
down
because
I'm
supposed
to
be
calming
and
I'm
shaking
in
my
boots
and
because
we
are
here,
you
can't
see
my
feet:
I,
don't
even
have
shoes
on
so
I.
Don't
even
have
books
on
but
I,
and
so
my
point
is
that
I
need
to
appeal,
because
some
of
you
already
get
it
and
then
for
those
of
you
who
don't
get
it
I
would
like
for
you
to.
D
D
It
is
unfair
to
the
little
white
children
to
not
know
and
that's
the
very
reason
I've
been
on
all
these
years,
with
the
veterans
and
Friends
of
Gordon
Memorial
Park,
the
late
Fern
Cunningham
she
sculpted
before
she
died.
General
gordine
we've
got
10
bar
reliefs
that
are
going
to
be
put
up.
If
you
go
down
to
Nubian
square
right
now,
you'll
see
it
in
the
making
it's
to
let
the
white
children,
the
black
children,
the
brown
children,
the
red
children.
What
is
that
little
song
about
all
the
children
of
the
world?
D
It's
not
fair
to
them
to
not
know
that
veterans
black
veterans
were
in
every
war.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
it
is
not
fair.
A
little
white
child
is
not
being
a
racist
if
they
don't
see
things
in
the
books
about
the
Black
Culture,
so
there's
nothing
wrong,
there's
nothing
to
be
scared
of,
and
so
that's.
These
are
some
of
the
points
that
I
want
to
point
out
and
then
to
correlate
with
the
squares.
You
know
you
have
the
Eggleston
Square.
You
have
the
continent
Square,
you
have
the
Copley
Square.
D
Why
in
God's
world?
Would
you
not
have
Nubian
Square?
That's
you
know
the
analogy:
I
see
I,
don't
even
watch
television,
but
lately
they
had
this
little
thing
about
the
girls
with
the
basketball.
The
little
white
girl
was
doing
this.
She
was
being
just
on
it
and
she
was
being
something
to
be
proud
of,
and
she
was
doing
like
this.
It's
kind
of
like
that.
Little
thing
about
the
little
girl
with
the
curl
in
the
middle
of
the
forehead,
when
she's
good,
she's,
very,
very
good
when
the
black
girl
did
it.
D
She
was
horrid
okay.
Now
it's
a
mindset
and
it's
up
to
all
of
us.
We've
got
to
fix
this
thing.
It's
taken
forever,
but
that's
okay!
I
am
not
concerned
about
my
children,
I'm
not
considered
about
my
grandchildren,
even
the
great
grands
I'm
thinking
about
the
children,
even
in
their
mother's
wombs
in
the
generations.
We
need
to
fix
this
stuff,
so
you
got
to
do
some
catching
up
catching
up
so
that
the
children
can
see-
and
this
is
one
of
the
very
main
reasons
why
it's
important.
Why
you
want
to
know
why?
Well,
why
not?
D
You
know,
I
was
around
when
the
Black
Panther
people
were
saying,
black
is
beautiful,
black
is
beautiful;
they
had
to
keep
pressing
there
because
guess
what
we
were
just
so
ugly,
our
lips,
our
nose
if
those
black
panthers
hadn't,
just
kept
telling
us
black
has
been
for
black,
is
beautiful.
We
would
not
this
scream
wouldn't
look
like
it
does
right
now,
and
so
more
work
has
to
continuously
be
to
be
done.
D
So
it's
about
Justice,
it's
about
doing
what
is
fair
and
just
and
I'm
trying
to
I
want
to
be
here
to
help
you
to
think
and
to
think
about
the
babies
that
you
love.
You
talk
about
all
if
it's
all
less
and
make
it
all
and
don't
be
afraid
of
the
word,
don't
be
afraid
of
Nubia
you're,
not
afraid
of
Chinatown.
You
know,
don't
be
afraid
of
that.
D
So
let's
just
get
to
the
the
heart
of
the
matter
here
you
know
and
I'm
almost
I
appreciate
every
one
of
you
that
came
on
that
automatically
said
that
you
know
you
were
in
favor
of
it
for
whatever
reason
even
to
support.
D
But
but
the
thing
is
it
really
I
felt
inside
my
I
felt
like
a
little
cry.
Baby
and
I
wasn't
acting
because
it
felt
it
was
so
good
and
then
God
bless
Mr
Miller,
but
Mr
Miller
I'm,
not
gonna
name
calling
that's
not
a
negative
name,
but
it's
a
name.
That's
used
within
the
community
when
the
mindset
is
that
of
one
that
is
totally
I'm,
not
gonna,
brainwash
like
but
I'm
saying
that
Mr
Miller
was
so
opposed.
D
He
wouldn't
even
allow
us
to
buy
an
ad
in
his
paper
to
ask
the
people
to
vote
first,
we
ask
if
we
could
get
get
in
there
and
they
said
no,
and
so
then
we
said
well.
We
found
out
we
collected
money,
you
know
and
we
try
to
find
out.
D
Okay,
we
found
out
how
much
it
would
cost
to
put
an
ad
in
the
paper
we
couldn't
even
buy
an
ad,
so
I,
don't
I
was
gonna,
say,
give
a
fat
rat
I,
don't
I'm,
not
I,
love,
Mr,
Miller
I
know
he
he's
friends
with
some
of
my
family
members
and
everything
it's
nothing
offensive.
But
what
I'm
saying
when
you
quote
these
people
and
I
know
some
of
these
people
in
this
group.
Okay
and.
D
I'm
just
trying
to
Bridle
my
tongue
a
little
bit
because
these
people
that
you're
calling
the
community
is
not
the
community
that
went
out
there
and
voted
4
000
people
that
said
Nubian,
okay
and
so
I'm
trying
not
to
be
angry
because
I'm
not
going
to
be
angry
and
the
Puerto
Rican
sister.
You
know
you
know
you
have
a
culture,
you
know
and
I'm
not
still
complaining,
but
I'm
gonna
tell
you
something.
My
children,
I'm
gonna.
Tell
you
this
quickly
because
you're
looking
at
a
I,
don't
know
what
you
call
them.
D
Now
we
used
to
be
colored.
We
used
to
be
Negroes,
we
used
to
be
you
know
what
else
the
n
word
and
then
I've
heard
some.
They
don't
even
say
it
anymore,
black,
any
black
people,
but
it's
the
people,
there's
a
woman.
Her
name
was:
we
call
the
mama
Charlotte
Mama
Charlotte
and
Mama
Harriet,
big
mama,
big
mama
wasn't
big.
She
was
just
a
young
grandmother
and
she
didn't
want
to
be
called
Graham
big
grandmother.
D
B
D
D
All
right
so
anyway,
I
try
to
time
myself,
I,
don't
know
how
much
time
I
have
but
don't
you
know
there
used
to
be
this
song
and
it
says:
don't
take
away
our
music.
It's
the
only
thing:
we've
got
it's
our
piece
of
the
rock
don't
strip
us
of
the
culture
that
we're
trying
to
get
so
that
we
can.
All
all
of
us
can
be
together.
Okay,
so
leave
this
thing
to
the
community,
the
real
Community,
the
people
who
voted
I,
don't
know
who
the
I
don't
know.
D
Eyeball
I
know
some
of
these
people
and
and
as
an
aside
Mimi
Jones,
was
on
the
friends
of
what
used
to
be
called
Dudley
and
God
bless
me.
She
rested
in
peace
and
Mimi
and
I
were
downstairs
and
having
some
snacks
in
Saint,
Catherine,
gentle
and
Mimi
had
Mimi's
she's
the
one.
If
you
all
don't
know
she
made
national
news,
because
when
she
was
15
years
old,
she
went
and
helped
to
integrate
this
hotel.
D
That
was
the
whole
idea
and
the
older
black
people
didn't
know
how
to
swim
and
they
had
young
kids
in
there
and
the
man
literally
poured
acid
in
the
pool.
But
Mimi
said
to
me,
she
said
Yamada
and
she
did
like
this
and
you
know
Mimi's
cheeks
she
said
I
would
love
to
see
a
little
black
boy,
saying
I'm
going
to
the
new
Nubian
library
and
she
was
a
struck
down
member
of
The,
Dudley
friends
of
Dudley,
okay
and
so
I
I'm
gonna
close
in
one
minute.
D
There
will
not
be
bothered
if
we
do
not
if
we,
if
we
name
that
name
new
bill
and
they're
not
going
to
be
intimidated
by
any
respects,
so
I'm
very
grateful,
I'm
happy
that
my
eyes
are
on
you
all.
I'm
gonna
see
if
I
have
any
other
notes.
I'm
just
saying
fix
this
for
the
children
you
know
make
some
history,
you
all
are
the
history
makers
and
I
appreciate
you
all,
because
you
have
a
come
up
with
all
kinds
of
decisions.
Aaron
I
see
you.
D
You
know,
I
know
that
you're
on
different
things,
I'm
you
with
the
with
the
with
the
veterans.
You
know
and
I
know
you're
on
this
other
thing
with
the
redistricting
and
all
that,
but
you
all
have
to
do
so.
Many
things
and
I
get
that,
but
just
try
to
have
a
mindset
set
the
pace.
Historically,
it's
time.
It's
really
past
time,
stop
quelling
this
thing,
okay
and
give
the
people
what
they
want
and
I'm
gonna
be
quiet,
we're
gonna,
untime,
myself,
I!
Thank
you
all
and
I
appreciate
you
each
and
every
one
of
you.
G
Thank
you,
Mr
Lana
next
up
is
Dr
Reginald
Jackson.
M
Good
morning,
I
guess
it's
still
a
morning
and
I
want
to
recognize.
M
M
The
needs
of
the
community
are
being
addressed
and
that
what
goes
on
is
in
response
to
the
needs
of
the
community.
M
I
would
like
to
begin
by
saying
that,
as
an
educator,
I've
been
in
the
schoolhouse
for
at
least
half
a
century
here
in
Boston,
New,
York,
New
Haven
and
in
West
Africa,
and
so
I've
I've,
seen
a
lot
of
different
kinds
of
situations
and
variations
on
some
of
the
main
themes
that
run
through
what's
being
discussed
today.
It's
about
an
identity
and
it's
about
culture
and
I.
Think
if
there
is
nothing
else
that
comes
out
of
this
after
you
know
a
positive
outcome
that
folks
remember.
M
And
by
that
I
mean
as
we
look
at
culture-
and
you
know
my
background
was
in
Communications
as
well
as
visual
anthro
I've
traveled
around
the
world.
Looking
at
how
African,
survivals
or
African
retentions
manifest
themselves
in
various
forms
of
expression,
as
Africans
were
moved
from
the
continent
to
just
about
everywhere
in
the
world
and
I.
M
Think
it's
important
for
us
also
to
understand
that
we
have
been
dealing
with
a
false
narrative
and
by
that
what
I
mean
is
that
when
we
look
at
recent
current
historical
facts
without
looking
at
how
they
originated,
where
they
came
from
we're
off
we're
all
descendants
of
Africa
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
have
the
occasion
to
watch
Dr,
Henry
Lewis,
Gates's,
Finding,
Your
Roots,
but
when
you
find
someone
who
is
in
their
50s
60s
and
older.
M
Saying
after
divulging,
the
genie
genealogical
basis
for
their
being
oh
I
now
know
who
I
am
it's?
It's
really
in
2023
for
someone
to
live
most
of
their
life
and
not
really
know
who
they
are
nuts,
we
can
do
much
better
than
that
and
I
see
a
library
like
the
library
in
Nubian
Square.
As
a
as
a
starting
point
naming
the
library
Nubian
takes
us
all
back
to
the
beginning
of
humanity
at
a
time
when
humanity
is
being
challenged
again.
M
M
So
when
I
hear
about
well
inclusive
or
exclusive
that
that
that
is
no
longer
a
viable
argument,
we're
all
from
the
same
place
and
what
we
need
to
do
is
to
accept
the
fact
that
healing
needs
to
take
place
and
that
healing
comes
about
through
the
manifestation
of
culture
and
how
we
apply
the
culture
naming
is
so
important
and
integral
to
that
construct.
M
There
was
nowhere
in
my
educational
process
and
I
have
several
degrees
where
I
learned
anything
about
my
ancestry,
African
ancestry.
It
was
only
after
I
finished.
My
first
graduate
degree
that
I
began
to
realize
that
there
was
a
whole
nother
dimension.
That
I
was
missing
and
that's
why
I
went
into
anthro.
M
So
I
think
we
have
a
real
opportunity
here
to
educate
folks
across
the
board.
We're
not
just
talking
about
folks
of
African
descent,
we're
talking
about
everybody.
The
the
false
narrative
that
has
been
laid
on
us
needs
to
stop
and
we
need
to
get
with
the
the
the
the
real
history
of
of
humanity.
We
all
know
about
Humanity
started
in
Africa,
and
so
this
whole
discussion,
I,
think
to
some
degree
is
moot
because
we're
talking
about
the
whole
history
and
the
whole
history
comes
out
of
that
experience.
M
So
I
I'm
pleased
to
have
the
opportunity
to
be
a
part
of
this
panel.
I'm,
I
and
I'm
excited
about
the
possibilities
that
lie
ahead
as
we
move
to
a
Nubian
library
that
says
to
young
people.
You
are
somebody
you
do
have
cultural
heritage
and
that
we're
on
our
way
to
Healing,
because
once
again
culture
is
the
bomb,
but
it's
also
the
Cure.
M
J
G
I'm
gonna
go
now
to
counselors
for
questions
or
comments
in
response
to
the
advocate
panel
and
then
I'll
take
public
testimony.
So
I
just
want
to
flag
for
folks
who
want
to
give
public
testimony
if
you're
watching
this
shoot,
quora.montron.boston.gov
email,
that's
c-o-r-a,
dot,
m-o-n-t-r-o-n-d
at
boston.gov.
G
It's
helpful
if
you
can
do
that.
In
addition
to
raising
your
hand
on
the
zoom
just
so
that
I
know
that
you
want
to
give
testimony,
but
first
before
we
do
that,
we
will
go
to
council
Anderson.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
all
the
panelists
I
have
some
questions
for
David
I
guess
in
within
your
process.
David
Orr
Evelyn
whomever,
can
answer
with
you
within
your
process.
Did
you
document
the
people?
Were
there
any
surveys?
Were
there
any
signature
lists?
H
Do
you
have
any
documentation
in
a
proper
list
of
all
these
people?
That
said,
no
to
the
name,
change.
K
We
have
the
minutes
from
the
May
26th
meeting
at
which
testimony
was
given
both
publicly
and
in
writing.
We
are
submitting
that
if
we
haven't
already
to
council
as
part
of
the
record
for
this
for
this
hearing,
you
know,
I
I
will
acknowledge
that
in
May
of
2020
we
were
about
three
months
into
the
the
pandemic,
and
so
you
know
I
think
you
know
had
that
not
been
the
case,
there
would
have
been
more
opportunity
for
for
input
than
than
there
was
at
the
time.
K
K
I
would
have
to
check
the
record
and
get
back
to
you.
It's.
K
At
least
from
a
from
a
people
who
gave
testimony
attendance
would
not
necessarily
be
in
that,
but
we
can
check
the
records
for
you.
Well.
H
For
the
people
that
voiced
opposition,
you
would
have
that
because
they
voiced
it.
Yes,
yes,
yes,
but
you
you
mentioned
that
there
were
that
you
wish
that
if
it
was
during
the
pandemic-
and
they
in
that,
if
it
wasn't
the
pandemic,
I
guess
you're
insinuating
that
you
would
have
more
attendance.
K
Or
we
would
have
had
a
in-person
meeting
which
might
have
allowed,
for
you
know
more
people
to
attend.
That's
possible,
I!
Think
the
you
know
in
in
the
virtual
world,
as
we've
learned
over
the
last
two
years.
Sometimes
you
get
more
people
it's
easier
for
some
people
to
attend,
but
this
was
early
enough.
That
I
think
that's!
That's!
That's
what
that's
worth
keeping
in
question.
H
Thank
you
and
what,
in
terms
of
the
the
covid
time,
if
you
didn't
have
enough
participation
and
unfortunately
we're
not
able
to
have
a
proper
discussion
about
how
many
in
attendance
I
mean,
if
you
had
five
people
testify
in
a
meeting
of
20
people,
then
that
doesn't
actually
necessarily
constitute
of
the
community.
So
then
you
have
the
other
group
who
have
collected
about
4
000
signatures
in
support
of
the
name,
change
from
the
community
and
then
the
folks
that
you've
listed
I
think
you
you
listed
I
heard
about
four
people.
H
I
didn't
hear
more
than
that
and
then
with
Mr
I
guess
the
banners
article
again.
H
Anyone
can
take
a
position
and
make
an
opinion,
and
so
I
I'm
trying
to
I
guess
make
the
point
that
it
seems
as
though
you
collected
a
handful
of
people
opinions
and
you
went
with
it
and
if
it
was
covet,
if
it
was
during
covet
the
pandemic,
then
it
would
seem
that
we
need
to
reconvene
to
create
that
process
all
over
again
because
you
actually
did
not
collect,
and
you
are
admitting
that
there
would
have
been
more
participation
which
sounds
like
it
was
low
attendance.
H
If
that's
the
case,
then
a
small
meeting
during
a
pandemic
does
not
speak
for
the
community
at
large
does
not
speak
for
Roxbury
at
large,
and
so
would
you
consider
doing
the
process
all
over
again
so
that
it's
actually
inclusive
of
the
majority
of
community
members
and
then
I.
My
office
is
happy
to
support
you
with
that
and
bringing
participation.
H
So
that
we
can
actually
engage
the
community
at
large
as
opposed
to
just
see
several
people
on
the
list.
K
K
So
you
know,
I
think
it
is
not
simply
a
matter
of
how
many
people
individuals
spoke
publicly.
They
asked
that
particular
meeting.
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
so
I
guess
the
the
significance
of
those
people
outweighed
the
community
at
Large.
K
I
I'm
not
going
to
make
that
conclusion
counselor
so.
H
We
trust
friends
and
the
trustee,
the
friends,
sorry,
the
friends
and
then
you
said
people
spoke
with
the
employees
and
they
collected.
You
know,
opinions
or
support
for
their
position,
but
there
was
no
proper
documentation
and
a
community
process
that
actually
included
the
community
at
large.
It
sounds
like
if
I
work
with
you
and
I
I.
You
know
what
I'm
hearing
this
from
my
co-workers
too.
That's
you'd
have
to
agree,
I
hope
you'd.
Have.
H
You
would
agree
that
that
sounds
like
hearsay
like
it's
not
actually
a
proper
documented
process,
and
then
the
friends
and
all
of
these
people,
then
we'd
have
to
look
at.
Does
that
reflect
the
demographics
of
Roxbury
and
Winston?
And
then
they
don't
speak
for
the
community
in
Roxbury
at
large
at
all
at
all.
In
fact,
I
would
even
incorporate.
H
L
N
H
To
yeah,
that's
not
how
this
works!
Sorry,
I
I'm
actually
allowed
to
question
you
and
ask
you
to
go
to
the
next
question:
I'm
I'm
as
a
city,
councilor
I'm
in
this
hearing,
I'm
asking
you
to
yield
for
a
moment
so
that
I
can
get
clarification
of
what
you're
saying,
I'm,
not
trying
to
be
rude
to
you,
I'm
trying
to
get
clarification.
When
you
said
you
have
names
see
what
happens.
Is
this
this?
This
format
is
not
very
good
at
communication,
then
we're
on
Zoom.
H
So
it's
it's
hard
and
I
apologize,
but
I
do
have
to
slow
it
down
so
that
I
can
get
clarification
for
the
record.
So
what
you're
saying
is
you
have
names
of
businesses
that
you
frequently
went
in,
but
you
don't
have
names
of
the
people
or
you
don't
have
a
survey?
Okay,
no.
L
L
L
As
you
will
know,
people
of
Latin
descent
they
don't
like
giving
names
because
they're
afraid
of
you
know
if
they're,
if
not
here
legally,
you
know
what
are
you
going
to
do
with
my
name,
so
there
are
people
who
don't
trust
about
giving
names
so
and
I
think,
and
the
information
was
not
to
be
a
used
in
official
manner.
L
It
was
for
me
to
sort
of
you
know
gauge
the
community,
because
what
I'll
also
say
is
that,
although
you're
all
in
and
I'll
I'll
say
this
and
is
my
personal
opinion
only
I
said
I
the
people
who
are
participating
in
this
committee.
It
feels
to
me
that
it's
one-sided,
the
people
that
have
been
noted
in
the
in
the
in
the
minutes
at
advocating
for
a
different
name,
have
not
been
included
in
the
testimony
except
David
and
myself.
So.
H
H
Thank
you.
Do
you
see
why
we
have
to
go
fast
because
it's
a
timely
timed
thing
Evelyn,
and
so
it's
like
question,
answer
quick
and
go
and
I'm
sorry
about
that.
H
It
sounds
like
hearsay
for
the
business
hearsay
for
the
employees
and
hearsay
in
terms
of
the
testimonies
hearing
it
from
people
we
need.
We
would
like
to
ask
through
the
chair
that
you
provide
not
you
Evelyn,
because
you're
stating
that
there
are
no
names
for
the
businesses,
but
for
David.
If
you
could
provide
the
minutes
that
actually
shows
who
testified
and
who
they
represent.
H
I
understand
your
point
about
coming
from
the
friends
or
representative
from
different
places.
There
are
Civic
associations
in
Roxbury.
In
fact,
Roxbury
had
the
most
number
of
Civic
associations
from
all
of
Boston
trust
me
I
appreciate
them,
but
it's
also
a
lot
and
I
guess.
My
question
is
in
your
process
in
engaging
Community,
then
were
any
Civic
associations,
especially
for
that
catchment
area
included.
K
The
process
calls
for
the
trustees
meetings
to
be
public.
Those
meetings
where,
where
public,
where
notified
the
agenda
was
listed,
sorry.
K
We
through
the
clerk's
office.
H
K
K
I'm
I'm,
not
specifically
individual
members,
may
have
relayed
invitations,
but
for
trustee
meetings
we
not
necessarily
have
a
practice.
Obviously
Mr
kanban
has
said
he
was
specifically
invited.
We
knew
this
was
a
a
topic
of
interest.
The
friends
were
specifically
invited.
That
was
a
topic
of
interest
to
them,
but
beyond
that
public
posting
of
of
notification
of
of
meetings
is
our
standard
process.
H
H
I've
I've
been
here
over
30
years
as
well:
Evelyn
and
I
lit
I
went
to
school
in
Newman
Square.
All
my
life
I
went
to
Dearborn
I
went
to
O'brien
I
lived
in
Academy
homes.
This
is
my.
This
is
my
place
right
so
like
this
is
our
place,
so
I
can
name
all
of
the
businesses
in
moving
square
and
I
and,
and
the
thing
is
I,
don't
think
that
they
were
properly
surveyed
I.
H
Don't
think
that
the
Civics
engagement
associations
were
properly
surveyed,
I,
don't
think
that
the
community
was
properly
invited
and
engaged
I'm
asking
again
for
you
to
reconsider
and
doing
this
process
all
over
again,
especially
because
obviously
4
000
signatures
is
overwhelmingly
way
more
representative
than
your
process
that
you
listed
today.
G
You
thank
you
counselor
Anderson,
going
next
to
account
to
president
Flynn
and
then
to
counselor
Murphy
Mr
motto:
I
see
your
hand
up
I'm,
just
I'm,
going
to
keep
going
through
the
counselors,
but
I'll
come
back
to
you
at
the
end
of
their
questions.
If
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
say
it
going
to
council
president
Flint.
I
I
That
also
represents
the
south
end,
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
miss
Smith
and
to
Mr
Jackson
and
Mr
cambon
that
appreciate
your
your
comments
and
I.
Think
listening
is
a
critical
part
of
this
debate
as
well.
The
more
we're
exposed
and
listened
to
residents,
the
more
effective
we
are
in
representing
our
constituents,
whether
whether
it's
in
Tanya's
District
or
it's,
my
district,
but
listening,
is
a
critical
part.
I
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
community
that
are
on
this
on
this
Zoom
meeting
and
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
you,
Council
Fernandez,
Anderson,
to
Madam,
chair
into
the
public
library
team,
David
Letterman
that
Iran
as
well.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
G
You
president
Flynn
councilor
Murphy.
G
I'll
come
back
to
council
Murphy
in
a
moment.
I'll
just
see
Ana.
Do
you
want
us?
Did
you
want
to
say
a
word.
D
Yes,
I
I
just
want
to
humbly
say
this.
First
of
all,
one
of
the
plights
is
that
the
businesses
that
the
owners
of
the
businesses
in
Nubian
Square
they're,
not
even
black
I,
don't
mean
not
people
of
color
they're,
not
the
people
with
the
pain
with
this
and
the
that.
So
when
you
ask
them
they're
coming
from
a
even
if
you
do
watch
them,
you
know
I,
don't
find.
D
That
is
a
very
good
representation,
because
the
people
with
the
money
who
were
able
to
own
it
and
sell
in
Nubian
square
and
then
close
their
Gates
and
go
back
to
their
own
personal
communities
are
not
representing
the
people
that
we're
talking
about.
That's
that's
my
one
of
my
points
and
then
my
other
frustration,
I
I
was
told
when
I
was
a
young
girl.
That
rules
are
for
people
that
you
don't
want
and
I'm
wondering
about
this
thing
that
has
taken
place.
It's
broken!
Can't
we
just
fix
this.
D
Can
we
find
out
how
to
fix
this?
Why
can't
we
just
right
this
wrong?
You
know
I,
don't
feel
like
going
back
out
and
rounding
up
a
bunch
of
people
and
fight
this
fight.
We
have
so
much
to
do
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
we
are
on
a
roll
and
we
are
getting
so
much
accomplished.
You
know,
and
you
know,
I'll
do
whatever
I
have
to
do
and,
as
my
mother
would
say,
until
my
tongue
thickens,
you
know,
but
why
do
we
have
to
go
through
all
of
this
again?
D
Can
somebody
find
out?
You
know
everybody?
You
know
you
you
we,
you
know,
we
have
exceptions
to
rules
and
we
have
the
law
and
we
have
the
legislation.
We
need
to
just
fix
this
thing
and
get
it
taken
care
of
because
it
is
broken
and
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
councilor.
Is
he
gone?
Thank
you
councilor
Flynn.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Everybody.
G
Thank
you,
Mr,
mana
and
and
in
a
minute
I'm
gonna
go
to
public
testimony.
Just
a
couple
of
things.
I
wanted
to
say
one
is,
you
know,
I
think
in
some
ways.
G
Listening
to
all
of
this
I
think
that
it
sounds
to
me
like
part
of
kind
of
the
speed
of
the
process
and
everything
that
happened
had
to
do
with
the
fact
that
everybody
on
all
sides
of
this
question
agreed
that
it
obviously
wasn't
going
to
be
called
The,
Dudley
Library,
and
so
it
seems
as
though
you
know
in
some
ways
what
happened
was
because
there
was
going
to
be
a
quick
move
away
from
that
there
was
a
quick
move,
you
know,
and
so
I
think
and
I
and
I
appreciate
the
impulse
there
to
recognize
the
voice
of
the
public
in
terms
of
changing
Dudley
square
to
Nubian,
Square
and
and
the
fact
that
that's
already
become.
G
G
G
That's
one
thing
it
seems
like
you
know
there
was
a
desire
to
make
a
quick
move,
but
then
I
think
we're
obviously
here
and
here
on
the
council,
a
question
about
whether
all
the
voices
that
needed
to
be
heard
were
heard
and
whether
we
really
ask
people
the
question
properly
of
what
you
want
to
name
the
library
right,
because
I
think
also
there's.
Obviously
we
obviously
had
the
ballot
question.
G
We've
had
a
lot
of
conversation,
but
the
conversation
where
we
specifically
put
to
people
a
question:
what
do
you
want
to
name
the
library
branch
sort
of
it
sort
of
came
sideways
at
the
library
branch
right,
so
so
I
mean
I've,
definitely
learned
a
lot
again.
It's
it's
not
my
district
and
I'll
be
stepping
off
the
council
soon,
but
I
I
I
really
wanted
to
hold
this
hearing
and
help
progress.
The
conversation
forward
and
I
feel
as
though
we're
doing
that
today,
so
I
want
to
thank
everybody.
G
I
am
going
to
go
to
public
testimony.
I've
got
one
piece
of
written
public
testimony
to
read
that
was
sent
in
by
somebody
who
has
been
watching
but
didn't
want
to
speak
on
camera,
and
then
I
will
go
to
the
hands
that
I
have
raised.
Right
now
are
Mr
Lewis,
Elisa
and
then
a
Lavette
with
that.
If
you're
able
to
put
a
last
name
in
there,
that
would
be
great
but
I'll
just
read
this
testimony
first
from
Diana
Tarver
and
then
go
to
Louisa
Lisa.
G
So
the
testimony
from
Diana
Tarver
is
I
believe
it
should
remain.
Boston,
Public,
Library,
Roxbury
branch
and
each
library
is
in
a
section
of
the
city,
and
it
is
named
for
that
section.
I
do
not
agree
to
Nubian
Library,
no
one
asking
my
opinion
and
I
live
within
blocks
of
the
library.
Thank
you.
G
O
O
Thank
you,
I
was
being
supporting
that
we
took
the
time.
Thank
you,
chairwoman,
Mark,
and
congratulations
for
your
transition.
O
O
I
grew
up
from
the
New
York
City
Public
Library
System
I've
been
a
part
of
the
friends
at
Brooklyn
library
in
New,
York,
City,
Library,
Boston
library,
for
a
while
I'm
sending
donations
in,
but
I've
held
libraries
in
high
esteem,
because
libraries
hold
a
very
special
place
in
my
understanding
of
the
world
and
things
around
me.
They
were
very
special
part
of
how
we
worked
as
a
community
and
all
the
students
I've
worked
in
across
the
country
in
the
world.
O
Library
has
been
a
central
place
for
the
people
who
live
near
there,
they're
almost
like
Parish
houses,
and
so
they
have
a
very
special
Road
I.
Think
that
Justin
keeping
with
the
reality
of
what
libraries
are
and
what
kind
of
how
they
originated
the
first
libraries,
the
world
has
known
the
greatest
Library
again
in
a
place
called
there's
no
display
excluding
that
not
just
Alexandria
but
before
Alexander
at
the
libraries
of
the
world
and
the
great
thinkers
of
the
world
came
to
the
place
that
we
consider
now
Nubia
for
knowledge
and
education,
I.
O
Think
much
of
what
the
testimony
is,
then
is
to
say
we
want
to
encourage
young
black
children
and
brown
children
to
see
themselves
in
the
context
of
the
world
around
them.
The
idea
that
people
would
like
to
name
places
of
importance
that
are
relevant
to
their
culture
is
common,
whether
it's
Chinatown
or
whether
it's
Spanish
Town.
O
We
request
that
we
changed
from
the
name
of
someone,
who's,
oppressive
and
doesn't
and
I
know
the
history
of
the
governor
and
the
Sun
and
others
engaging
the
slave
trade,
which
now
you
know
without
too
much
political
correctness
with
lightness.
We
know
that
a
lot
of
places
were
named
after
individuals
because
it
was
common
to
do
and
at
the
time
that
it
was
named.
That
was
the
prevailing
culture,
but
the
culture
has
changed,
and
so
therefore
it
would
be
intelligent
things.
O
Take
into
consideration
that
given
support
and
weight
to
naming
a
place
so
important
as
a
library,
the
cultural
backdrop
and
understanding
that
maybe
some
young
person,
regardless
of
race,
would
go
in
there
and
want
to
know
where
the
libraries
come
from
and
where
were
the
Great
libraries
of
the
world
establishing
what
they
mean
with
how
great
residents
or
what
libraries
provide,
which
is
access
to
Extended
education,
access
to
Extended,
Learning
Beyond,
just
the
public
schools.
It's
always
been
arrested.
O
The
New
York
City
Public
Library
is
incredible
because
they
still
do
programs
in
the
communities.
We
have
a
book
ragging
that
I
helped
pay
for
the
financial
grid.
National
I'm
not
going
to
stay
too
long
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
it's
it's
a
decision,
that's
made
by
the
city
council,
it's
mainly
buildings
and
made
by
the
city
council.
We've
done
this
before
when
on
in
library
in
Austin.
O
Had
to
be
named,
there
was
no
question
right
away:
hydropology
group
of
Charles
City
Council
agency
at
the
time,
and
we
move
forward
when
libraries
in
other
areas
have
named.
We
have
no
challenge.
I
sat
on
development.
Imagine
Library
so
I'm
thinking
that
if
a
decision
can
be
made
that,
if
you
need
to
go
back
and
hear
from
more
people
other
than
your
immediate
circle
of
sins
and
employees,
it
might
be
a
good
thing.
O
It
might
be
a
logical
thing
and
it
might
be
the
correct
thing
to
do
and
so
I'm
in
support
of
the
change
of
the
name
to
meet
the
community
and
the
changes
that
are
taking
place
in
the
area
to
encourage
young
people,
young
people,
black
and
white
wall.
You
just.
O
G
Great
thank
you.
Mr
Elisa
go
next
to
Lavette
and
then
to
Samuel
Pierce
and
then
I.
Apparently
I
have
a
couple
more
letters
to
read
into
the
record.
So
I'll
do
that
as
well
going
to
love
that.
G
N
N
That
was
the
only
point
and
I
could
do
that.
But
my
last
name
is
Coney,
as
in
Coney
Island
I'm,
an
active
member
of
Roxbury
of
the
neighborhoods
I'm,
a
president
of
the
neighborhood
association
and
I,
am
in
collaboration
with
a
number
of
different
people
in
Roxbury
to
help
make
sure
that
we
have
a
better
quality
of
flight.
N
N
A
reasonable
person
I
after
listening
to
a
number
of
different
people
who
are
on
the
trustee
board
and
and
working
for
the
city
for
the
Library
I
feel
that
this
process
was
extremely
flawed
and
that
the
use
of
their
biased
and
it
was
has
been
very
distasteful
and
even
when
questioned
by
The
Counselor,
it
seems
to
me
that
the
stronghold
to
a
piece
that
we
recognize
that
you
have
to
have
things
in
writing.
N
You
have
to
like
even
you
asking
my
last
name
and
asking
for
that
information
for
this
testimony
is
very
important.
So
why
is
it
that
the
the
trustees
are
able
to
just
use
anecdotal
information
to
be
able
to
hold
steadfast
to
not
allowing
the
community
at
large
to
be
able
to
change
the
name
to
Nubian
Nubian
Library?
It
seems
ridiculous
and
it
seems
really
it
seems,
racist,
actually
and
so
living
in
a
racist
Society.
N
P
Thank
you,
Kenzie
I
just
wanted
to
first
say:
congratulations
to
you.
We
definitely
have
earned
a
wonderful
new
chief
of
the
DHA
I'm.
Sorry
to
see
you
leave
the
council,
but
obviously
very
big.
Congratulations
to
you.
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
say.
As
far
as
the
library
is
concerned,
I
do
think
that
we
should
have
the
library
named
after
the
square.
P
We
have
the
Copley
Library
named
after
the
Copley
Square
Egleston
Library
named
after
Eggleston
Square
and
so
I
think
that,
because
of
the
way
things
have
transpired
as
far
as
the
the
trustee
board
not
being
really
transparent.
As
far
as
the
process
they've
for
a
long
time
pretended
that
they
didn't
know
how
we
would
rename
the
library
and
we
found
out
that
it
was
actually
the
city
that
could
actually
do
it
from
the
executive
side.
P
So
that
would
include
the
city
council
being
able
to
weigh
in
on
the
naming
of
any
edifice
or
building
I.
Think
that
we
should
also
look
at
it
holistically.
We've
now
named
renamed
the
square
we've
renamed
the
station
and
so
I
think
that
the
intention
is
to
rename
the
library,
Nubian
library
and
then
also
rename
Dudley,
Street
and
so
I
think
that
hopefully,
as
we
start
thinking
holistically
and
as
we
were
talking
about
renaming
things,
we
also
take
this
opportunity
to
rename
Columbus
Avenue
after
Mel.
P
King
I
think
that
people
were
very
excited
about
that
idea.
And
so,
since
this
is
the
the
committee
that
would
be
renaming,
City
buildings,
the
city
streets,
City,
libraries
I,
would
like
to
hopefully
propose
and
and
voice
my
support
for
the
renaming
of
Nubian
library,
but
also
that
we
hopefully
do
it
holistically
in
one
swoop
that
we
can
also
rename
deadly
Street
or
at
least
start
that
process
and
then
also
start
the
process
of
renaming
Columbus
Avenue.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
again,
congratulations
all
right.
Bye-Bye.
G
The
participants
queue
but
have
not
raised
their
hands
and
I.
Don't
have
you
signed
up,
but
if
you
do
want
to
testify,
please
just
raise
your
Zoom
hands
and
I'll
bring
you
in.
In
a
minute.
I'll
read
a
letter
that
we
received
from
Eric
Estevez
greetings.
My
name
is
Eric
estebos
and
this
written
testimonies
in
response
to
docket0259.
G
In
order
for
hearing
to
discuss
renaming
the
Roxbury
branch
of
the
Boston
Public
Library
to
the
new
Bean
Library
I
am
not
in
favor
of
renaming
the
Roxbury
Branch
to
Nubian
Library
I
believe
the
name
should
remain,
as
is
of
the
26
BPL
branches
spread
across
the
city.
15
of
them
are
named
for
one
of
the
22
distinct
neighborhoods
that
make
up
the
city
of
Boston
people,
love
Roxbury,
much
fewer
people,
love
the
Nubian
Square
name.
G
While
the
reasons
why
the
name
change
was
successful,
are
many
I
do
not
support
a
name
change
from
Roxbury
to
Nubian,
not
in
the
context.
Nor
Dynamics
are
the
same
The
Dudley
Branch
was
already
renamed
to
the
Roxbury
branch
and
Roxbury
deserves
to
have
a
branch
library
that
carries
the
whole
neighborhood's
name
with
which
people
throughout
Roxbury
widely
identify.
So
the
Roxbury
Branch
should
should
remain
named
the
Roxbury
Branch
Library.
G
Q
Afternoon,
everyone
I
have
been
listening
and
I
was
a
bit
hesitant
to
come
as
a
panelist,
but
I
thought
it
was
important
for
me
just
to
speak
I'm
Elizabeth
nagaraja,
a
long
time
resident
of
Roxbury
have
lived
here
for
47
years
of
my
life
homeowner
and
stakeholder,
but
I
also
am
the
President
of
the
friends
of
the
Roxbury
Branch
Library,
which
I
have
been
the
president
for
the
last
I.
Think
six
years,
I've
heard
a
lot
of
things
today
that
I
had
not
heard
before.
I
was
on
that
meeting.
Q
When
the
name
change
came
up,
I
have
been
to
several
different
meetings
about
the
name
change
and
when
I'm
speaking,
I'm
speaking
with
two
roles,
I'm
speaking
as
an
independent
person
who
has
frequented
the
library
for
over
the
last
28
years,
the
this
particular
Branch
I.
Also
as
a
member
of
the
friends
we
when
we
spoke
about
this
at
our
meeting
and
Mr
cambon
did
come
to
our
meeting
and
share
his
thoughts.
Q
Some
I
would
say
that
when
they're
mentioning
the
friends
in
support
of
the
name,
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
it
was
not
a
unanimous
vote
to
support
the
name.
Roxbury,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear
that
it
was
not
everyone
who
was
in
favor,
but
the
majority
were
in
favor.
As
this
conversation
has
continued
I
understand.
Q
The
importance
of
Nubian
I
understand
stand
the
importance
of
holding
the
name
of
broxberg
I'm
coming
forward
to
say
that
wow
there's
a
lot
of
conversation
about
how
that
meeting
went
and
that
there
was
no
public
forum
prior
to
the
pandemic.
There
were
several
meetings
about
the
library
the
what
was
going
to
be
included
in
the
architectural
aspect
of
the
library,
the
naming
of
that
Library
I
attended.
All
of
those
meetings
myself
and
maybe
three
other
Roxbury
residents
were
at
that
meeting.
Q
It
wasn't
until
the
name
actually
came
forth
and
was
put
forth
that
there
was
a
public
outcry.
I
think
that
to
to
the
many
points
that
have
been
made,
I
don't
think
that
enough
people
put
their
input
in
the
very
beginning,
and
that's
why
we
are
here
where
we
are
and
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that
when
we
have
these
public
meetings
that
often
the
public
attendance
of
people
in
this
area
can
be
low.
So
then
we
end
up
where
we
are
now.
Q
We
are
at
the
point
where
the
name
is
being
challenged
because
other
things
in
the
Square
have
been
called
have
been
renamed
yet.
But
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that
this
was
not
a
attempt
to
because
I
was
at
those
meetings
and
it
wasn't
an
attempt
to
disrespect
our
neighborhood
and
unfortunately,
where
we
are
now
is
because
it
is
other
things
that
have
been
named.
Q
I
understand
the
importance
of
having
everything
be
uniform,
but
I
wanted
I
thought
it
was
important
to
share
that
when
I
was
at
those
meetings,
I
would
look
around
and
there
were
not
many
of
us
there.
So
as
we
revisit
this,
keep
that
in
mind-
and
hopefully
we
can
get
to
a
point
where
we
agree
on
what
the
library
should
call
if
it
ends
up
being
Nubian.
The
Nubian
Branch,
that's
great,
but
just
remember
when
we're
having
these
meetings
and
decisions
are
made,
and
then
we
come
back
later.
Q
This
is
what
happens
and
that's
all
I
really
wanted
to
say,
and
that's
my
personal,
that's
not
representing
their
friends,
because
I
can't
speak
on
behalf
of
an
entire
group
of
people,
but
I
could
speak
on
my
experience
on
having
attended
all
of
those
meetings
when
the
library
was
being
redesigned
and
the
name
came
up
that
it
wasn't
until
after
the
name
came
that
a
lot
of
Discord.
Can
that
doesn't
mean?
Q
We
can't
still
have
this
conversation,
because
I
think
it's
important
to
have,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
as
we're
moving
forward,
that
we
keep
that
in
mind
and
again,
I
am
the
President
of
the
France.
I
am
not
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
friends
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
Elizabeth
nagaraja,
as
a
member
of
the
community
and
a
person
who
loves
the
library,
who's
loved,
the
library
for
most
of
her
life.
G
Thank
you
so
much
Elizabeth
and
I
just
want
to
note
that
we
we're
joined
for
public
testimony
by
Ruthie
lujen,
our
city
councilor
at
large.
That's
a
thank
you.
Councilman
for
being
here,
I'm
gonna,
Now,
read
I've
got
another
another
piece
of
written
testimony
into
the
record
and
right
now
this
is
the
last
one
I
have
so
again.
G
If
you
are
looking
to
testify,
please
raise
your
hand
and,
and
I
will
come
to
you,
but
first
I'm
just
gonna
say
it's
gonna
read
this,
so
this
is
from
yamawa
Arenas
at
89,
Ford
Avenue,
Roxbury
Massachusetts.
G
Thank
you
for
accepting
my
written
testimony
as
context
I
serve
as
a
trustee
of
the
BPL
from
2006
to
2022
and
was
a
member
of
the
Board
of
Trustees
when
we
voted
to
rename
The
Dudley
branch
of
the
BPL
after
the
community.
It
serves
I
submit
this
testimony
to
outline
my
thinking
at
the
time
of
the
vote,
which
remains
consistent
today.
Well,
I
appreciate
the
passion
and
the
commitment
of
the
Nubian
Square
Coalition
I
respectfully
disagree
with
their
point
that
the
branch
should
follow.
The
Nubian
Square
naming
the
referendum
to
adopt
the
name.
G
Nubian
Square
clearly
showed
an
appetite
for
discarding
The
Dudley
name
for
that
particular
section
of
Roxbury.
I
support
that
decision.
However,
the
referendum
did
not
speak
to
renaming
any
of
the
adjacent
businesses,
services
or
agencies
that
function
in
that
part
of
Roxbury.
The
Roxbury
branch
is
among
the
largest
branches
in
the
BPL
system,
unlike
other
smaller
branches
that
serve
subsections
of
larger
neighborhoods.
The
Roxbury
Branch
serves
the
entire
Roxbury
Community
in
the
spirit
of
inclusiveness.
I
believe
that
the
name
of
the
branch
should
reflect
the
entire
neighborhood,
not
just
the
immediate
area.
It
says.
G
In
addition,
the
name
Roxbury
had
clear
support
from
important
stakeholders
in
this
conversation,
notably
these
included
the
friends
of
the
then
Dudley
Branch
committed
Library
users
who
volunteer
their
time
and
energy
to
support
their
local
branch
library
and
the
Roxbury
Historical
Society
keepers
of
the
Rich
and
diverse
history
of
this
neighborhood.
The
diverse
makeup
of
Roxbury
residents
is
shifted
considerably,
since
the
first
Roxbury
Branch
opened
in
1873.
G
There's
no
reason
to
believe
those
ships
will
not
continue
as
a
resident
of
Roxbury
for
over
two
decades,
I
see
the
cultural
heritage
and
Andy
and
diversity
of
our
community
every
day,
including
on
my
daily
commute
through
Nubian
Square,
as
a
former
trustee
and
art
and
supporter
of
an
institution
whose
motto
is
free
to
all.
I
believe
that
the
BPL
Branch's
name
should
reflect
the
immediate
community
in
all
its
richness,
standing
as
a
beacon
of
knowledge
and
if
roxbury's,
Collective,
Community
strength.
I
hope
this
perspective
has
been
helpful
to
your
deliberations.
G
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
attention
to
this
matter.
Sincerely.
Zamawa
aranas,
former
BPL,
trustee
and
Roxbury
resident
all
right,
I
think
that's
everybody
and
the
Dickie.
G
Mr
Mr
Kimbo
I'm
happy
to
go
to
you,
but
I
just
want
to
say
we
don't
generally
let
people
kind
of
do
a
back
and
forth
of
the
public
testimony.
So
you
know
happy
to
just
go
to
you
but
want
to
be
clear
that
we
we
try
to
let
people
do
their
public
testimony
and
not
kind
of
have
a
back
and
forth
about
it.
But
if
you
want
to
go
ahead,
go
ahead.
D
E
E
When
I,
when
I
heard
the
young
lady
who
said
she
was
the
chair
of
the
friends
that
she
gave
the
impression
that
there
was
a
quite
a
bit
of
community
discussion
meetings
about
the
name
and
I,
don't
see
how
that
was
possible
because,
like
I
said,
I
was
there
for
them
virtual
meeting
on
May
26th
when
Robert
Galloway
stood
up
and
said
you
know
what
and
I
repeat
myself.
E
It
would
be
unfortunate
to
not
have
a
new
name
for
the
library
and
I
propose
that
it'd
be
the
Roxbury
that
was
the
within
that
one
hour
was
when
that
name
change
happened
with
the
trustees.
It
was
no
testimony.
There
was
no
previous
about
it,
and
so
what
I'm
saying
is
that
that's
invalid
to
say
that
there
was
Community
discussion.
G
Mr
Mr
Kent,
Mr,
Kimball,
I'm,
gonna,
so
I
think
just
to
clarify
I
think
her
reference
was
to
meetings
of
the
friends
of
the
Roxbury
Live
library,
The
Dudley
library,
at
the
time
prior
to
that
meeting.
Not
to
that
but
I
do
just
want
to
because
we
don't
let
people
keep
coming
back
and
doing
more
public
testimony.
I
just
I
I
want
us
not
to
go
down
the
this
Lane.
G
I
understood
that
to
be
her,
her
referencing
the
meanings
of
the
friends
group
prior
to
taking
the
vote
that
she
referenced.
So
there
was
conversation
there
I.
Oh,
do
you
want
to
give
counselor
well
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
let
counselor
gen
say
a
word
if
she'd
like
to
before
we
close
because
she
hasn't
had
a
chance
but
I
do
see.
I've
got
another
hand
up
in
public
testimony,
so
I
am
going
to
go
to
Nia.
B
Oh,
can
you
hear
me
sorry,
we
can
hear
you
okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
am
testifying
that
I
am
in
support
of
the
name.
Change
I
actually
voted
when
there
was
a
vote
that
came
up
and
I
I
understand
that
there
was
an
overwhelming
support
for
the
name
change,
so
I
I
know
that
the
square
has
been.
The
name
has
been
changed
and
I
hope
that
the
library
name
will
also
be
changed.
I
actually
worked
there
when
I
was
a
teen.
B
G
Great,
thank
you
so
much
Nia,
I'm,
sorry,
I
think
Elizabeth
does
have
her
hand
up
again.
Can
you
bring
Elizabeth
back
in.
Q
G
No
no
worries,
thank
you
so
much
and
I
see,
but
now
I
also
have
Linda
Freeman
stand
up,
so
I
will
go
to
Linda.
A
Hi,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
this
opportunity
and
congratulations
for
the
sake
of
continuity
or
the
square
I'm
in
support
of
renaming
Roxbury
library
or
two
Nubian
Library
or
those
who
don't
frequent
the
area.
It
can
create
a
little
bit
of
confusion,
so
it's
easier
if
it
everything's
in
continuity.
G
Thank
you,
Linda
and
I.
Think
that's
everything
I've
got
for
public
testimony
for
the
moment.
As
mentioned,
there's
a
few
people
we
had
verbal
and
written
testimony.
For
so
all
those
letters
will
be
on
the
record
for
counselors
and
counselor.
Would
you
like
to
say
a
word.
R
Thank
you,
councilor
Bach,
just
a
quick
word,
because
I
need
to
go
back
and
review
the
tape
myself
just
want
to
thank
Council,
Fernandez
Anderson
for
this
filing
and
community
members
for
showing
up
our
libraries
are
obviously
really
important.
There
are
center
of
our
Civic
spaces
and
center
of
our
neighborhoods,
and
so
we
just
important
that
the
name
reflects
the
desire
of
community
and
so
I'll
be.
My
team
will
be
reviewing
the
record
and
working
closely
with
Council
Fernando
Anderson
to
make
sure
that
that
happens.
Thank
you.
H
I
think
Clifton
breathwaite
has
his
hands
up,
but
I
had
a
comment
to
close
out
as
well
sure.
G
Clifton,
yes,
just
popped
in
so
we'll
go
to
Clifton
personal
I'll.
Go
to
you!
Clifton!
We
bring
him
in.
S
You
doing
thank
you,
yes,
I
would
definitely
would
like
the
name
change,
but
I
would
like
us
to
bring
it
to
the
community
and
have
a
real
Community
vote
on
which
Legacy
name
that
we
use
from
the
community.
I
would
like
it
from
someone
from
Boston
for
the
library
to
be
named
after
figurehead
from
Boston
one
of
our
leaders.
G
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'd,
like
to
thank
everyone
to
for
coming
together.
I
think
I
would
like
to
walk
away
before
closing,
with
some
sort
of
agreement
to
create
a
community
process
to
redo
the
process
and
do
a
more
fair,
transparent
process
I'm
offering
myself
as
the
District
counselor.
My
at
large
colleagues
and
council
president
has
offered
support
as
well
in
reaching
the
community
at
large.
H
We
are
happy
to
support
with
this
meeting
in
order
to
be
able
to
reach
everyone
and
hear
everyone's
voices
I
think
that
overall,
it
saddens
me
to
to
walk
away
from
this
meeting
without
some
sort
of
commitment
or
agreement
to
redo
the
process
that
it
is
obvious.
You've
said
it
yourself
was
the
president
that
you
that
you
feel
that,
if
it
wasn't
because
of
covert,
we
would
have
had
more
participation
in
that
there
was
very
literal
participation
in
that
the
people
that
did
testify.
They
were
speaking
on
behalf
of
others.
H
No
proper
documentation
of
businesses
surrounding
businesses
I'm
offering
my
support
in
that
as
well
happy
to
help
with
surveying
the
community.
As
I
mentioned.
I
know
every
business
in
that
area
and
we
have
asset,
mapped
a
Roxbury
entirely,
especially
Nubian
square,
and
we
understand
our
community
on
the
ground
very
close
up,
close
and
personal.
As
you
can
see,
this
is
very
personal.
I
would
say
that
you
consider
the
fact
that
Chinatown
has
a
Chinatown
and
that
in
every
Square
you
go
to,
there
are
different
representation
of
different
cultures.
You
can
go
to
Central.
H
H
You
can
go
to
Hancock
Street
and
understand
that
that's
upham's
corner
of
Santa's
Cape,
Verdean
Community,
the
African-American
Community,
happens
to
be
the
only
community
that
is
not
very
well
supported
in
maintaining
their
culture
and
identity
and
historical
context,
and
so
it
is
personal
and
we're
asking
you
kindly
respectfully
to
redo
the
process
to
include
the
community
at
large
and
that
everyone
deserves
a
voice
and
to
be
seen
if
you'd
be
so
kind
to
to
to
redo
the
process.
I
would
greatly
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
K
Acknowledge
the
value
in
having
this
hearing
and
discussion
today,
because
we
have
some
jurisdictional
questions
that
have
surfaced.
I
would
be
happy
to
follow
up
with
those
counselor
Tanya
Fernandez
Anderson
and
outgoing
chair
counselor
Bach.
As
to
what
next
steps
could
look
like.
I
will
also
update
our
our
board
and
our
board
chair.
So
you
have
my
commitment
that
those
things
will
will
happen.
G
Great,
thank
you
so
much
Mr
President
and
yes,
definitely
one
of
the
things
that
I'll
make
sure
to
do
before
I
leave.
My
role
as
committee
chair
is
to
kind
of
like
pull
together
the
questions
and
including
questions
about
next
steps
from
the
committee
and
kind
of
formally
communicate
those
over,
so
that
there's
forward
momentum
for
the
conversation,
but
really
want
to
thank
everybody
for
being
here
today
and
I.
Think
we've
gotten
through
all
the
public
testimony.