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From YouTube: Flaherty Playground Design Meeting #4 02/07/23
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Flaherty Playground Design Meeting #4 02/07/23
A
A
We
are
recording
this
meeting
and
we
are
going
to
be
uploading
it
to
our
project
page
over
the
next
couple
of
days.
So
if
you
have
to
jump
off
at
any
point-
and
you
want
to
see
what
happened
or
if
you
have
a
neighbor
who
wanted
to
see
the
conversation
that
occurred,
they
can
go
to
the
project
page
and
I'm,
going
to
put
that
in
the
chat
today.
A
Oh
Christine
beat
me
to
it:
okay,
cool
so
I
wanted
to
say
hello,
everybody
and
welcome.
My
name
is
B
Chatfield
and
I
am
the
parks
project
manager
for
this
project?
A
A
A
These
are
some
Zoom
tips.
If
you
guys
are
not
acquainted
with
zoom
we're
gonna
ask
that
you
keep
your
microphone
off
during
our
presentation.
If
you
want
to
keep
your
camera
on
or
off,
you
can
do
that
either
way.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
a
presentation.
A
I'm
gonna
talk
for
a
little
bit
and
then
our
designers
are
going
to
do
the
design
presentation
and
then
we're
going
to
have
a
conversation
where
you
can
raise
your
hand
and
unmute
yourself
once
Christine
calls
on
you
we're
here
with
Christine
from
parks
department
as
well.
So
if
you
have
any
thoughts
during
the
presentation,
any
questions
feel
free
to
put
them
in
the
chat
and
if
it's
a
simple
answer,
we
can
just
respond
on
the
chat
during
the
presentation.
A
A
Everything
that's
put
in
the
chat
tonight
is
part
of
the
record
for
the
meeting,
we're
taking
notes
as
well,
and
we
are
recording
the
meeting
so
all
of
the
participation
tonight
we
are
taking
into
account
and
Counting
towards
our
our
public
feedback.
So
if
we
can
go
on
to
the
next
slide
here,
is
our
agenda
project
team
introduction
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
overview,
then
I'll
pass
it
off
to
our
designers.
A
For
the
presentation,
then,
we'll
have
a
listening
and
discussion
and
then
we
will
share
closing
remarks
and
next
steps.
We
could
go
on
to
the
next
slide.
B
chat
field,
project
manager.
This
is
my
email
and
my
direct
phone
number.
If
you
have
any
thoughts,
please
send
me
emails.
A
number
of
you
already
have
already.
If
you
want
to
talk
over
the
phone
I'm
happy
to
do
that
too.
A
We're
here
with
Christine
brandeo,
our
Outreach
coordinator
and
our
design
team
is
Jade
Cummings
and
kellyanne
Connolly,
and
we're
also
here
with
Kelly
Ashton,
three
wonderful
designers
from
Tara,
Inc,
landscape
architecture,
they're,
very
talented
and
they've
been
busy
incorporating
a
lot
of
different
input.
We've
also
been
working
with
Tiffany
Caballero
from
ons,
so
I
think
a
number
of
you
are
familiar
with
her
as
well.
We
could
go
on
to
the
next
slide,
so
here
we
are
project
overview.
A
Here
is
our
project
schedule.
We
had
our
first
community
meeting
way
back
in
January
of
last
year,
so
we've
been
doing
the
community
process
for
quite
some
time.
At
this
point
community
meeting,
one
two
was
in
May
and
community
meeting
three
was
in
September
of
2022..
A
It
was
at
community
meeting
three
that
we
shared
the
plans
for
a
dog
area
in
this
park
and
we
had
heard
interest
a
community
meeting
one
and
two,
and
there
was
enough
interest
by
community
meeting
two
and
we
were
sort
of
told
to
start
looking
at
that
as
an
option.
So
by
community
meeting
three,
we
shared
that
design
idea
put
out
a
survey,
and
here
we
are
now
at
community
meeting
four.
We
have
had
an
overwhelming
amount
of
support
for
a
dog
area.
A
We've
also
heard
some
very
specific
feedback
as
to
why
it's
not
a
great
idea.
So
we
are
aware
of
the
fact
that
not
everybody
is
going
to
be
happy,
but
we
are
we.
We
have.
We've
had
so
many
conversations
about
this
issue
in
this
park.
We
do
feel
like
we
have.
A
We
have
heard
a
lot
of
information
from
a
lot
of
different
people,
so
spring
2023
we're
going
to
be
going
into
permitting
and
design
development
of
our
construction
documents
and
then
fall
of
2023
is
when
we
will
begin
construction
and
then
the
following
spring
2024
is
when
we
would
be
opening
the
park
so.
B
Yeah
I
think
Council
of
clarity
is
here
if
he
wants
to
say
anything
thanks:
Christine
counselor,
hi.
C
C
You
know
that
their
their
concerns
kind
of
get
weighted
a
little
more
heavily
than
than
other
folks.
That
may
not
live
directly
across
the
street
or
next
door
to
the
park
so
and
they'll
reach
out
to
the
commissioner
just
to
express
those
sentiments
as
well.
So
again,
if
it's
a
if
the
decisions
made-
and
this
is
where
the
dark
Park
is
going
to
go,
then
the
only
ask
as
a
Citywide
counselor
is
that
the
direct
Debaters
at
the
you
know
at
that
appropriate
stage.
C
They
kind
of
get
sort
of
last
and
final
input
with
respect
to
the
dog
runs
and
the
layout
Etc
so
and
I
appreciate
your
time
and
attention
good
to
see
everybody
foreign.
D
By
the
design
team,
okay,
thank
you
B.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
your
time
this
evening
again,
this
has
been.
This
has
been
an
involved
process.
We
we
do.
We
appreciate
all
of
the
community
feedback,
so
we
will
run
through
I
know
for
those
of
you
who
have
participated
in
the
meetings
to
date.
Some
of
this
information
you've
seen
several
times
so
I'll,
just
briefly
review
the
existing
conditions.
D
Summary
tree
analyzes,
where
we
were
with
the
dog
park,
early
concept,
design
survey
results,
and
then
we
will
review
the
new
Design
Concepts
so
beginning
with
the
existing
conditions.
If
you
remember
just
over
a
year
ago,
our
first
order
of
business
for
almost
every
project
is
to
really
understand
the
neighborhood
context.
Who,
who
are
the
people
using
this
place?
Where
are
they
coming
from?
D
We
did
an
extensive
site
analysis.
We
evaluated
the
circulation,
the
open
space,
the
edges
and,
of
course,
we
heard
we
heard
off
the
bat
Community
meaning
number
one.
One
element
within
this
Urban
Park
that
everyone
is
super
proud
of
super
interested
in
were
the
trees,
which
of
course,
is
a
landscape
architect.
D
That
made
us
very
happy
to
hear
so,
as
we've
been
going
through
this
process
over
the
last
year
as
design
recommendations
are
being
made
and
opinions
were
being
shared,
we
kept
at
the
Forefront
of
our
priority,
the
preservation
of
as
many
existing
trees
as
possible.
In
addition
to
other
elements
such
as
pedestrian
safety,
visibility
and
accessibility.
Every
conversation
we've
had
regarding
this
park
has
involved
those
items
when
we
started
with
the
tree
analysis.
D
We,
along
with
Boston
Parks
Enlisted
the
services
of
a
licensed
tree
arborist,
to
be
certain
that
it
wasn't
just
our
opinion
about
what
should
remain
or
what
should
not
remain.
But
this
is
really
the
moment
where
we
wanted
to
analyze
the
existing
trees
to
understand
what
should
remain
and
what
which
trees
are
at
the
end
of
their
life,
and
this
is
a
good
time
to
remove
and
replace
as
possible
evaluated
each
of
the
trees
to
come
up
with
our
information
and
as
you'll
see
with
the
design
concept.
D
So
after
the
community
meeting
number
three,
as
B
said
during
community
meeting
number
two,
we
heard
that
there
was
an
interest
in
a
dog
area
and
community
meeting
number
three.
We
presented
a
concept,
a
rough
concept
for
what
a
dog
area
would
entail
and
the
these
were
the
results
that
we
received
so
on
the
right.
We
have
the
dog
run,
considerations
and
the
diagram
that
we
presented
to
explain
really
at
for
the
logistics
of.
D
If
we
want
to
have
a
dog
area
in
this
park,
where
can
we
have
a
dog
area
in
the
park?
And
during
the
last
meeting
we
explained
we
need
to
have
100
foot
buffer
from
a
budding
residence
that
residences
and
then
understanding
to
maintaining
the
existing
tree,
canopy
that
I
just
discussed
and
for
those
of
you
familiar
with
the
park.
You
well
know
that
in
this
Zone
there
is
an
existing
slope.
It's
a
very
steep
Bank
in
that
area.
D
We
did
not
want
to
encroach
on
that
for
several
reasons:
tree
preservation
being
one
and
just
earthwork
removal
and
changing
the
character
of
the
park.
So
that
said,
this
diagram
illustrates
really
we
were
left.
This
is
this:
is
the
Zone
where
we
could
accommodate
a
dog,
a
dog
run
for
the
residents
who
participated
in
the
survey
you
can
see
on
the
left
generally
where
people
were
living.
D
It
was
nice
to
see
that
89
of
the
respondents
were
from
Jamaica
Plain
and
then,
as
you
will
see,
79.27
percent
of
the
participants
were
interested
in
having
a
dog
element,
whereas
20.73
percent
were
not.
So.
With
that
information
working
closely
with
b
and
her
team,
we
move
forward
to
revise
a
design,
and
it
was
really
we
really
really
understood.
We
really
could
feel
the
passion
coming
from
both
sides,
so
it's
a
tricky
position
for
us
and
we
given
all
of
the
existing
conditions
and
our
design
goals.
D
D
This
is
the
design
concept
that
we
have
developed
and
what
you
will
see
here,
I
will
just
say
the
orange
dots
are
it's
a
pretty
strong
graphic,
but
the
orange
dots
represent
where
we
have
walkways
that
are
accessible,
so
we
were
able
to
through
early
site
grading
studies,
which
is
where
we
begin
to
do
technical
drawings
to
to
manipulate
the
grading,
to
make
sure
that
we
accommodate
slope
tolerances
so
that
everyone
can
safely
enter
and
navigate
throughout
the
park.
D
We
have
been
able
to
accommodate
accessibility
off
of
Cornwall
Street
off
of
Brookside
Avenue
and
from
the
upper
level
Health
parking
lot.
So
those
are
the
orange
dots
throughout
the
property
and
as
you
as
I
just
explained
with
the
dog
part
diagram,
we
have
reserved
this
area,
which
is
currently,
as
you
well
know.
D
It's
an
open,
Asphalt
Zone,
we've
it
we're
proposing
the
dog
area
where
we
were
told
we
could
have
a
dog
area,
but
we
really
understood-
and
we
were
grappling
with
how
do
we
get
that
open
space
that
we
know
the
kids
enjoy?
So
what
what
we
did
was
we
took
that
existing
star
again?
For
those
of
you
familiar
the
star
that
is
existing
in
the
pavement
and
we
literally
took
the
same
shape
and
size,
and
not
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
literal
representation
that
this
is
more
to
help.
D
You
understand
scale
at
this
time.
This
is
the
dog
area.
This
overall
Upper
Terrace
is
going
to
be
the
play
area.
The
bluish
Zone
will
be
more
for
active
play.
The
orange-ish
Zone
will
be
for
open,
unprogrammed
play
and
then
over
in
this
area
to
the
right
of
the
plan.
We've
maintained
the
ladybug
Rock,
and
this
is
where
we're
really
we're
hoping
to
have
more
of
that
passive
seating.
The
kids
can
can
crawl
on
rocks.
D
So
this
is
the
the
current
thinking
again
maintaining
accessibility
in
the
trees
throughout
the
park,
then
just
a
few
more
slides,
and
then
we
can
open
this
for
conversation
as
we
break
down
these
areas
that
I
just
discussed,
it
is
important
to
note
we
are
still
in
early
feasibility,
so
the
play
structures
and
elements
that
you
see
on
the
right.
These
are
not
for
certain.
We
are
working.
D
We
will
be
working
with
a
playground
consultant
to
make
sure
we
are
accommodating
children
of
different
age
groups
and
abilities,
we're
always
focused
with
playground,
design
and
making
sure
we're
accommodating
balance,
motion
sensory
play
and
then
again
having
that
that
natural
Zone
off
to
the
side
that
that
will
offer
another
experience
for
Elders
in
the
community
to
sit
children
in
the
community
to
jump
on,
rocks
and,
of
course,
maintaining
the
ladybug
Rock.
D
So
we
have,
and
as
an
example
of
that,
these
are
types
of
Play
Elements,
where
we
can
really
work
on
balance
with
the
stepping
and
the
climbing
elements,
then
we're
working
elements
where
the
children
can
really
understand,
motion
and
the
feel
of
their
body
in
space
with
swinging,
spinning
and
slides,
and
then
the
visual
and
auditory
Discovery.
So
the
just
getting
you
know
the
kids
who
just
getting
them
out
there
to
to
Really
activate
all
of
their
senses.
D
A
Yeah
so
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
questions
in
the
chat
that
have
been
coming
through.
That
was
a
great
presentation,
though
Jade
thank
you
for
walking
us
through.
All
of
that,
the
first
question
had
to
do
so.
This
is
sort
of
Statistics
I.
Think
right.
It's
how
many
trees
are
we
taking
out
versus
how
many
are
we
proposing?
A
We
have
tried
to
balance
that
I
think
the
and
confirm
the
numbers
please
Jade
I
think
we
were
removing.
There
was
12
individual
trees
throughout
the
park.
There
is
also
essentially
a
Grove
of
difficult
to
differentiate,
but
invasive
species
trees,
so
that
is
more
than
12,
but
I'm
not
sure,
but
that
yeah,
so
we've
got
there
and
our
proposed
trees
I
think
we
are
proposing
12
additional
trees
or
13
I.
Think
at
this
point,
Jade.
D
That
is
correct,
that
that
is
correct
and
it's
understanding
you
know
it's
early
on.
But
yes,
we
need
to
reiterate
where
you
have
the,
where
we
have
the
orange
X's.
These
are
the
trees
that
will
need
to
be
removed
primarily
due
to
their
existing
condition,
and
then
there
are
a
couple
of
tree
this
tree
and
this
tree,
for
instance,
we
will
be
removing
to
accommodate
the
open
space
due
to
the
root
disruption
that
will
likely
occur
during
construction.
D
This
number
17
tree
will
be
removed
and
then,
as
you
said,
we
have
a
Grove
of
invasive
species
along
the
southern
side
of
the
property
that
will
be
removed
and
then,
in
the
new
plan,
we're
proposing
approximately
12
again
understanding
as
we
get
into
the
details.
D
If
we
can,
if
we
can
add
more
trees,
we
will
certainly
do
that,
but
you
can
see
in
this
Zone
we're
going
to
replace
the
invasive
species
with
new
trees
along
this
area
and
then
inserting,
where
possible,
both
to
replace
the
tree
removals,
but
also
to
get
shade
into
these
areas.
We
have
new
trees.
We
have
a
nutrient
in
this
location
in
this
location
and
then
in
these
locations
throughout
the
park.
A
Okay,
and
if
there
is
room
for
more,
we
can
add
more
but
I
appreciate
the
question.
There
was
also
questions
about
the
square
footage
of
the
play
area
and
the
square
footage
of
the
dog
area,
so
Kelly,
Ashton
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
the
ability
or
the
knowledge
off
the
top
of
your
head
or
Jade
either
of
you,
but
if
it
takes
sort
of
a
cad
measurement,
if
you
could
put
that
in
the
chat
the
there
were.
A
Some
comments
on
the
survey
and
I
understand
that
certain
people
think
it
was
biased
in
a
certain
direction.
We
were
trying
very
hard
to
get
a
neutral
response
as
or
trying
to
present
it
neutrally
saying
who's
interested
in
this
who
is
opposed
to
this
Boston
Parks
and
Recreation
has
a
long
track
record
of
shutting
down
the
option
of
a
dog
area.
So
we
were
not
coming
at
this
with
a
goal
of
installing
a
dog
park.
A
If
you
look
at
the
recordings
from
the
first
two
meetings,
I
was
eagerly
not
open
to
that
idea.
I
guess
is
the
the
nicest
way
to
put
it,
and
there
was
enough
of
a
Groundswell
of
support
that
we
are
going
to
include
it.
So
the
details
on
the
dog
park
itself
are
going
to
be
be
developed
as
we
go.
We
are
going
to
be
working
with
friends
of
JP
dog
parks
and
a
few
of
their
representatives
to
sort
of
understand
what
the
best
you
know
layout
options
are.
Is
it
two
gates?
A
Is
it
one
gate
we're
going
to
be
including
dog
bags?
We're
gonna
have
some
seating
in
there,
so
that
design
right
now
we're
basically
just
showing
the
outlines
for
that.
A
So
it's
basic
right
now
it
will
get
fleshed
out
and
it
will
serve
dogs
in
in
a
good
way
and
so
I'm
gonna
shut
up.
There's
some
other
questions
about
the
play
equipment
that
we're
proposing.
So
we
can
go
back
over
that
too,
but
I
also
want
to
give
people
a
chance
to
talk.
So
we've
got
some
people
raising
their
hands
here.
D
Jay,
do
you
want
to
talk
about
that
sure
so
right
now
Joaquin.
Thank
you
for
your
question.
The
area
in
this
Zone,
this
orangish
colored
Zone.
This
is
going
to
be
an
open,
Asphalt
area.
D
We
have
not
gotten
into
the
further
detail
of.
Do
we
want
to
have
a
basketball
hoop,
but
in
this
at
this
time
this
area
I
know
that
the
dog
park
area
is
roughly
7
500
square
feet.
D
So
we
again
we
took
that
star
that
is
existing
in
this
area
and
we've
placed
it
up
here,
but
we'll
get
those
final
numbers
to
you
momentarily.
So
this
upper
area
will
be
open
for
play.
Kicking
a
soccer
ball,
throwing
ball.
E
Also,
is
there
gonna
be
any
water.
D
Very
good
question:
we
with
the
design
changes,
it
was
determined
that
the
water
play
would
not
be
conducive
with
the
new
design.
So
no.
A
But
drinking
fountains:
yes,
if
your
question's
drinking
fountains,
yes,
we
will
include
those
but
yeah
water
play
was
something
that
would
not
fit
with
all
of
the
other
elements.
F
Thank
you
for
this
I
know
you
all
are
trying
to
put
together
a
variety
of
different
pieces.
As
my
my
kiddo
said,
we
live
down
the
street
and
I
just
think.
It's
a
really
missed
opportunity
to
put
a
water
feature
in
considering
what
our
summers
really
look
like
and
in
this
part
of
JP,
the
closest
one
is
Green
Street
and
it
is
always
full
and
so
just
voicing,
because
this
kid
also
had
a
question
about
water
features
that
I
think
that
that's
a
really
big
missed
opportunity.
F
The
other
thing
I
know
B
I
have
emailed
you
about.
This
is
this
is
the
only
part
on
this
side
of
the
tracks
that
has
a
playground,
and
so
the
idea
that
we're
taking
around
we're
taking
space
and
we're
allocating
it
to
dog
parks
where
children
in
the
egolston
Square
Community
don't
have
access
to
playgrounds
or
Open
Spaces
aside
from
like
Franklin
Park,
if
you
like,
make
the
hike
up
I,
just
think
that
that's
a
that's
a
big
takeaway
from
this
part
of
the
community,
but
thank
you.
G
H
I
H
And
the
other
is
the
ones
that
are
xed
out.
Are
they
disease
trees?
You
say
they
can't
be
they
can't.
You
know
they
can't
remain.
Is
that
because
there
are
too
many
trees
or
because
all
those
trees
are
sick
and
would
have
to
be
removed
anyway,.
D
Very
good
question:
David,
the
majority
of
trees
to
be
removed
have
been
evaluated
by
an
arborist,
and
the
majority
of
them
were
identified
as
having
having
a
diseased
or
dying
condition
or
a
condition
that
you
know
you
can
imagine
after
construction,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
disruption
to
some
of
these
tree
roots,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
leave
the
park
with
any
liability.
So
this
tree
analysis
provides
photo
documentation
of
the
trees
that
were
recommended
to
be
removed.
With
a
brief
explanation
as
to
why.
J
How
are
you
so
I
am
Tracy
Billy,
director,
butter
and
I
know
most
of
you
here.
J
J
A
Yeah
we
can,
we
can
totally
have
a
meeting
where
we
figure
out
the
best
approach
for
the
final
details
of
the
park.
I
think
that
that's
a
good
idea
I'm
not
entirely
sure
that
both
of
you
guys
are
going
to
want
to
coexist
in
the
same
meeting
together.
But
why
not?
Because
you
don't
want
a
dog
park
and-
and
they
do.
J
Well,
we
have
done
everything
we
could.
As
you
know,
we've
had
several
meetings
where
we
even
got
to
the
point
where
we're
just
asking
for
to
move
the
dog
park,
so
not
that
we
don't
want
it.
It's
just
that
yeah.
We
don't
want
it
basically,
but
we're
trying
to
work
with
what
we
have
now
so
I
think
to
have
a
seat
at
the
table.
J
You
know
we're
all
adults.
We
can
try
to
work
that
out
and
I
offer
whomever
JP
dog
park.
Friends
who
are
here,
you
know
we
are
also
friends
of
Flaherty
Park
and
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
as
a
Butters
that
you
know
we
work
with
what's
going
on
and
that
we're
heard
and
that
you
know
we're
part
of
the
decision
making
as
well.
So
I'll
stop
there
and
look
forward
to
emailing
you
to
be
a
part
of
that
as
as
well.
Thank
you
thank
you.
Tracy.
G
As
somebody
who
is
12,
I
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
just
found
that
the
place
document
stuff
is
gonna,
be
like
a
good
level
and
a
compass
like
they
kissed
too
also
I.
Don't
think
that
there
needs
to
be
another
basketball
court
could
just
like
three
in
the
neighborhood
already.
K
I
guess
what
she's
asking
is
a
lot
of
the
plans
that
we
were
talking
about
before
had
like
big
tree
houses
and
clubhouses
and
like
big,
big,
big,
climbing
areas
so
that
older
kids
had
a
space
too
I.
Don't
see
any
of
this
in
this
plan,
which
is
what
we
were
you
know
talking
about,
and
we
had
that
design.
Can
we
talk
about
like
what's
being
put
in
for
the
older
kids.
D
Yes,
we
so
in
this
area
and
again
early
concept
once
we
move
forward
and
have
the
program
and
circulation
confirmed
this
area
will
indeed,
this
is
going
to
be
the
the
primary
focal
play
structure
for
the
park
where
we're
still
moving
forward
with
this
whole
Tree
House
in
the
woods-ish
type
concept
to
work
in
to
really
tie
in
you
know
it's
an
urban
park.
We
have
a
natural
aesthetic
here,
but
moving
forward
to
engage
as
many
children
as
possible.
D
So
certainly
the
majority
of
the
Play
Pieces
accommodate
children
5
to
12
years
old,
but
we
will.
We
have
an
excellent,
excellent
playground
consultant
who
we
work
with,
who
we're
really
doing
some
exciting
stuff
with
him,
because
we
understand
I'm,
sorry,
I,
don't
I,
don't
remember
your
daughter's
name,
but
your
comment
is
so
important
because
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
creating
a
place
to
accommodate
as
many
different
people
and
ages
and
abilities
as
possible.
So
thank
you
for
asking
such
a
thoughtful
question.
K
And
I
definitely
appreciate
that
you
basically
took
the
star,
as
is,
and
put
it
in
that
spot
to
like
make
a
you
know
size
of
an
open
space
that
that
felt
really
nice.
You
know
my
eight-year-old.
Do
you
have
anything
you
want
to
say
no
she's
good,
all
right!
Thank
you
for
being
thoughtful
about
this
process.
Thank
you.
K
K
Yes,
we
like
swings,
keep
swings
but
I'm
just
I'm,
just
looking
at
a
lot
of
these
designs
and
saying
they,
they
look
on
the
younger
end
so
that
that's
all
we're
asking,
because
you
know
we
have
been
using
the
park
since
she
was
born
and
I
have
an
eight-year-old
and
a
12
year
old,
and
they
just
you
know,
want
some
a
few
bigger
structures
in
with
the
stuff.
That's
you
know
for
the
younger
kids,
so.
D
Yes,
very
very
important
and,
as
we
move
forward
this
again,
this
this
Central
area,
which
from
the
beginning
has
been
the
the
focal
play
element.
We
too
we're
hoping
to
have
this
moment
where
you
walk
into
the
park
and
for
those
kids,
it's
like
like
I,
want
to
be
on
that
you
know
and
then
for
the
younger
kids
like
I,
want
to
be
old
enough
to
be
on
that.
You
know
so
very
important
point
which
thank
you
for
for
emphasizing
thank.
L
M
Hi
I'm,
so
sorry,
I'm
on
my
phone
I,
couldn't
figure
out
how
to
put
my
name
or
get
my
my
face
on
here.
But
thank
you
all
for
this
amazing
process.
I
am
in
a
butter.
I
live
overlooking
the
dog
area.
M
The
proposed
dog
area,
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
space
being
cut
in
half
and
kids
being
kind
of
shut
out
of
the
area
that
they
used
to
play
ball
in
and
I'm
also
very
concerned.
As
in
a
butter
about
the
dust
that
occurs
at
dog
parks.
There
is
an
unofficial
dog
park
about
two
blocks
away
less
than
a
mile
away
on:
it's
not
Brookside,
it's
not
Brookside,
but
off
of
Palmer
Street,
Beecher
Street,
that's
what
it
is.
I
went
and
visited
it.
It
was
a
very
cold
day.
M
The
ground
is
Frozen
and
it
still
smelled
like
feces
and
urine
and
I've
been
in
that
Park
in
the
summer,
and
the
dust
is
in
the
air
and
it's
filled
with
fecal
matter
and
I
do
not
want
to
be
breathing
that,
in
my
space
and
I'm
also
very
concerned
about
the
kids
that
want
to
use
the
dog
area
and
as
their
primary
source
of
play,
the
recess
kids
that
come
every
single
day
that
are
in
that
area
and
I'm
also
very
concerned.
M
As
you
saw
in
the
chat
about
the
survey,
the
survey
was
widely
publicized
in
an
opinion
piece
that
was
titled,
why
you
should
vote
for
a
dog
park
and
that's
pretty
skewed
survey,
so
I
just
want
to
feel
I,
don't
feel
as
that.
We,
as
the
butters,
have
been
heard
in
this
process.
I
do
understand.
There
is
a
need
for
a
dog
park
in
JP
and
I
agree
with
that
wholeheartedly.
M
But
this
park
is
Tiny.
You
guys
and
cutting
it
in
half
to
create
a
dog
area.
That's
going
to
cause
dust
in
our
neighborhood
and
fecal
matter
and
all
of
this
stuff.
When
the
area,
the
park
itself
is
already
very
widely
used
by
dog
owners
in
very
peaceful
way,
so
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
listening
to
my
comments.
I've
been
in
touch
with
the
mayor's
office
because
and
I've
been
in
touch
with
counselor,
Lara
and
they're.
M
Frankly,
she
shocked
that
the
butters
have
been
ignored
in
this
way
and
I'm
also
I'm
I'm
really
skeptical
about
the
survey.
I
know
that
it
had
79
in
favor
of
the
dog
park
and
79
of
those
people
were
residences
residents,
but
how
many
people
live
directly,
abutting
it
and
are
going
to
be
exposed
to
all
of
the
things
that
come
with
it?
So
I
appreciate
you
guys,
hearing
my
voice,
sorry
I
couldn't
see
my
face
and
I
so
appreciate
this
meeting.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
for
sharing
your
thoughts.
I
have
to
respond
a
little
bit
to
that
and
I
understand
that
the
survey
was
disseminated
by
a
variety
of
different
sources,
many
of
which
were
in
support
of
dog
parks.
But
once
you
let
a
survey
out
there,
it's
not
exactly
in
your
direct
control.
So
that
is
one
of
the
faults.
One
of
the
problems
with
surveys.
A
A
I
realize
there
are
many
Butters
who
are
unhappy
with
this
result
of
having
a
dog
park
here
and
I
I
100
percent
sympathize
with
you
I
realize
that
a
lot
of
you
have
had
a
strong
role
in
using
this
park,
maintaining
this
park
and
in
feeling
very
strongly
that
this
is
your
neighborhood
space
and
I.
Don't
want
you
to
have
the
impression
that
I
take
that
lightly,
because
I,
don't
public
space
in
the
city
is
profound
and
I
respect
that
and
I
just
have
to
say
that
it's
not
always,
regardless
of
the
participation.
A
A
B
N
Oh
sorry,
okay,
hi,
guys
Melissa
Hamel,
I,
I'm,
sort
of
one
of
the
the
people
who
are
active
in
the
friends
of
JP
dog
parks
and
I
want
to
just
say,
I'm
I'm,
very
appreciative
of
all
of
the
neighbors
concerns.
N
I,
think
that
this
happens
frequently
when
a
new
proposal
is
made
that
affects
the
community
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
do
have
concerns.
However,
I'd
like
to
try
to
assuage
you
of
that,
those
those
fears
and
let
you
know
that
we
are
your
neighbors
and
that
we
have
a
very
vested
interest
in
making
sure
that
this
is
a
successful
dog
park.
N
Think
that,
once
you
have
this
in
your
neighborhood
you're,
not
only
going
to
find
that
it's
you,
your
fears
are
going
to
not
magically
disappear,
but
you're
going
to
find
that
the
neighbors
are
going
to
want
to
make
this
work,
your
your
dog,
owning
neighbors.
We
don't
want
anybody
to
fear
dogs
or
or
or
this
this
area.
N
It's
going
to
be
educational
for
your
children
to
come
and
and
learn
about
dogs
and
how
friendly
excuse
me
friendly.
They
are
there
there.
This
is
going
to
be
fine.
I
I
know
you're,
fearful
right
now,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
great
Park.
It's
great,
a
great
addition
and
I
just
really
want
to
reiterate
that
we're
going
to
work
with
you
and
help
you
to
to
feel
comfortable
with
this.
N
Like
I
said,
dog
owners
in
the
city
have
been
ignored
for
a
long
time.
I
just
came
back
from
a
trip
down
to
New
York
City.
There
are
dog
parks
everywhere,
and
people
love
them.
They
use
them.
The
kids
watch
their
the
dogs
playing
it's
a
beautiful
thing.
N
So
please
just
try
to
understand
we're
not
trying
to
make
your
neighborhood
worse
we're
trying
to
make
it
better
and
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
beautiful
Park
and
the
children
still
have
a
great
place
to
play
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
really
beautiful,
merge
of
dog
honors
and
children
and
and
elderly
and
everybody
in
the
neighborhood.
It's
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
great
and
I
really
appreciate
you
listening
to
the
the
city
in
our
the
proposal-
and
you
know
we're
your
neighbors
too.
So.
G
O
Hi
I
I
live
right
around
like
caddy
corner
from
the
park
and
I
have
a
small
child
who
uses
that
space.
A
lot
I
am
curious
to
hear
about
what
the
process
was
about.
The
parts
of
the
park
that
are
being
eliminated
in
favor
of
the
dog
park
I
know
the
original
plan
included
the
water
park
and
I
know
that
there
was
discussion
about
the
obviously
like
the
the
sports.
O
The
dance
area
I
recognize
how
you're
moving
that
I'm
curious,
I'm,
curious
to
know
more
about
the
details
of
what
how
was
decided,
what
would
stay
and
what
would
not
stay
in
the
human-based
aspect
of
the
park.
That's
the
first
part
of
my
question
part
two.
There
is
I'm
also
curious
about
Logistics,
about
what
kind
of
cleaning
schedules
will
be
on
hand
at
Place.
O
O
So
I
would
like
to
know
just
some
more
details
around
the
kind
of
organizational
Logistics
and
maintenance
around
the
park
and
finally,
I
just
want
to
say
I
I,
completely,
respect
the
enthusiasm
from
the
proponents
of
the
dog
park
aspect
here,
but
the
emotional
appeals
being
put
forth
are
incredibly
reductive
and
dismissive
to
those
of
us
in
this
immediate
vicinity
like
within
the
block
radius
of
the
park,
who
have
legitimate
concerns,
logistically
speaking,
and
about
the
immediate
impact
on
our
families
that
we
are
not
necessarily
opposed
to
a
dog
park
as
an
idea
in
general.
O
But
we
have
concerns.
We
are
not
concerned
about,
like
the
emotional
happiness
that
the
presence
of
dogs
will
bring.
We
know
about
that.
We
love
dogs.
Dogs
are
great.
We
have
concerns
about
the
impact
on
our
lives
and
the
and
accusing
people
accusing
people
who
have
these
concerns
of
of
of
dismissing
other
members
of
community
of
when
it
is
in
fact
the
immediate
impact
on
our
community
that
we
are
concerned
about,
and
we
just
want
to
know
more
about
logistics
and
how
the
impacts
affect
us
not
about
like
we're
not
trying
to
we're.
O
Not
voting
on
person
we're
not
like
arguing
on
personhood
of
dog
owners.
You
are
all
wonderful
people,
your
dogs
are
wonderful,
that's
all
good
and
well,
but
to
dismiss
that
there
are
legitimate
questions.
I
think
is
really
is
really
disheartening
and
bad
for
Community
Vibes
and
for
progress
on
this
thanks.
A
Thank
you
for
your
thoughts.
Tom
I
I
think
that
you
know
everyone's
trying
to
talk
to
each
other
and
I'm.
Sorry,
if
you
feel
that
some
responses
are
belittling
I,
don't
think
that
was
the
intent
I
want
to
respond
to
some
of
your
direct
questions,
so
the
programs
that
were
chosen
for
the
park,
the
water
spray
area,
sort
of
determined
that
there
were
a
number
of
people
who
were
very
opposed
to
the
water
spray.
A
There
was
not
a
strong
surge
of
support
for
it.
You
know
there
weren't
a
lot
of
people
who
said
this
is
the
park
for
water
spray
and
we
love
it.
I
love
it.
There
were
a
couple
people
who
wanted
it,
but
given
the
fact
that
it
does
exist
down
the
street
at
the
on
the
park
on
Green
Street,
we
thought
that
it
was
an
element
that
would
come
out
pretty
easily
and
not
be
installed
here.
A
A
A
This
is
really
the
only
place
that
we
can
locate
it
in
the
park.
Other
locations
involved,
taking
down
healthy,
mature
trees,
which
we
didn't
want
to
do
other
locations
involved.
Locating
the
dog
park
on
a
slope
which
we
didn't
want
to
do,
because
the
claws
of
dogs
erode
the
slopes
after
a
while
and
impacts
the
health
of
the
trees
that
are
growing
on
the
slopes.
This
is
a
very
wonderful
park
in
that
there
are
a
lot
of
existing
trees,
but
it
does
essentially
Force
the
design
for
where
you
can
install
certain
things.
A
So
that
is
a
priority
for
this
community.
We
understood
from
the
first
meeting
and
it
is
our
priority
too,
from
the
parks
department,
so
that
has
to
do
with
program
as
far
as
a
cleaning
schedule
we're
going
to
be
working
out.
The
specifics
with
our
maintenance,
crew
and
With
Friends
of
JP
dog
parks
to
understand
you
know
if,
like
what
is
the
flagging
mechanism,
for
you
know
how
do
we
notify
people
that
this
needs
to
get
cleaned
up?
We
are
going
to
encourage
people
through
signage
to
sort
of
basically
self
enforce
like.
A
If
you
see
somebody
using
the
dog
area,
not
cleaning
up
after
themselves,
you
know
we're
going
to
be
installing
trash
cans,
we're
going
to
be
installing
dog
bag
dispensers.
A
We
will
be
using
pea
gravel,
which
is
one
of
the
recommended
materials.
That
is
not
something
that
Harbors
bacteria,
a
certain
depth
will
be
maintained
so
that
that
is
something
that
is
the
recommended
material.
We
use
the
Stanton
Foundation
guidelines.
They
are
a
dog
advocacy
group
and
Grant
giving
organization
I'm,
not
sure.
If
that
answers
all
of
your
questions,
but
I
think
probably
enough
from
me
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
over
to
the
people
with
the
raised
hands.
G
P
I
just
see
him
yeah
director
buddies
here,
Lynn
opposition
to
the
dog
park
in
general.
But
the
point
is
it's:
not
anti-dog
Park,
it's
it's
a
small
Park,
it's
a
historic
party,
we're
questioning
why
you
even
need
to
really
do
much
of
the
work
you're
doing
there
and
why
this
is
happening.
You're,
putting
two
million
dollars
taxpayers
money
in
this
and
the
pocket
looks
great
right
now,
the
huge
area
there
open
area
to
play
with
that.
You
don't
have
another
Park,
some
JP.
P
P
What
was
the
idea
getting
behind
that
the
dog
park
supposedly
came
in
at
some
point
during
the
process,
but
the
question
whether
originally
that
was
the
idea
and
then
the
development
went
around
the
dog
park
because
I
just
don't
see
why
the
whole
thing
needs
to
be
any,
but
an
upgrade
you'll
get
something
some
one
time
mentioning
meeting
about.
Brookline
Park,
like
and
I,
said
well
what
do
we
care
about?
Brooklyn
I
said:
maybe
it's
not
a
bad
deal
we'll
get.
P
Somebody
took
a
look
at
last
Anderson
a
place,
isn't
is
the
same
foot,
but
it's
been
there
for
forever.
They
just
fixed
some
of
the
things
that
they
have.
They
made
it
look
a
little
more
modern,
but
they
didn't
change
the
whole
footprint
in
this
area.
He
said
also
as
far
as
the
survey
stuff
and
go
it's
yeah
I'm
a
little
older
now,
but
you
could
Sprint
up
into
Roxbury
from
here
and
that's
part
of
this.
The
footprint
to
this
area
here
so
just
being
a
JP
zip
code,
doesn't
necessarily
mean
you
know.
P
That's
who
uses
more
of
that
Park.
No
one
is
opposed
to
dog
parks.
In
general,
we
pointed
out
sites
really
good.
Behind
English
high
is
a
great
great
area
down
there.
People
say
it's
the
DCR.
The
DCI
will
support
it.
Miss
Wu
and
Miss
Hillary
political
allies
it'd
be
no
problem
getting
something
to
DCR.
P
Now
maybe
it
wasn't
before
the
president
Administration,
but
the
thing
is
your
Butters
do
feel
that
they
haven't
been
included
too,
because
the
parks
affect
us
more
than
anyone
else,
that's
the
feeling
of
your
body,
so
they
want
to
have
a
little
input
into
it.
We
also
question.
Sometimes,
when
you
have
interest
groups
they
need
to.
You
know
they
get
a
little
bit
hurt
a
little
bit
more
and
also
the
question
of.
P
Is
the
money
going
to
be
put
into
it
from
the
dog
into
the
dark
part
from
the
friends
of
the
JP
I
know
they
do
that
in
some
of
the
other
communities
that
sell
tend
to
pay
for
the
maintenance.
So
that's
another
issue.
Q
A
You
yeah,
no,
we
we
heard
you
and
there
was
a
a
lot
of
feedback
there
and
I.
You
know
I
understand
that
there
are
probably
some
people
who
would
like
just
a
basic
upgrade,
but
I
think
that
that
option
is
no
longer
really
on
the
table
and
you
know
I
think
that
we
are
going
to
be
maintaining
the
character
of
the
park
as
much
as
possible.
A
But
you
know
there
are:
there
are
going
to
be
some
changes
and
I
I
appreciate,
I,
appreciate
your
comments
and
I
appreciate
your
feedback.
Thank
you.
G
R
Hi,
yes,
I'm
Ryan,
Fleischer
I
live
at
25,
Cornwall,
Street,
sorry,
okay,
step
away
for
a
second
taking
a
break
from
the
the
dog
park.
Conversation
for
a
second
one
thing,
I,
really
really
really
really
and
I
know.
R
You
said
it
from
like
in
each
meeting
I've
been
to
all
these
meetings
and
I
know
from
meeting
number
one
I
brought
it
up,
and
you
said
you
don't
have
the
power
to
do
it,
but
if
there's
any
like
City
Representatives
or
any
way,
you
could
really
push
for
crosswalks
across
Cornwall,
Street
and
crosswalks
across
Brookside
to
the
playground.
That's
like
the
that's
the
one
thing
I
just
like!
R
Please,
if
you
could
add
those
that,
like
to
the
direct
entrances
to
the
park
and
I,
know
that
the
parks
Department's
not
responsible
for
that
but
like
if
we
could,
if
you
could
like
coordinate
as
the
construction,
is
going
just
to
add
crosswalks.
That
would
be
incredible.
R
R
Conversation
I
was
in
one
of
the
abutters
meetings
and
I'm
gonna
keep
my
opinions
out
of
whether
the
dog
park,
but
one
thing
that
was
brought
up
was,
you
know
a
dog
park
as
we
see
there's
a
lot
of
people
from
Jamaica
Plain
outside
of
the
directive
Butters
that
are
interested
in
this
and
like
I,
you
know
one
thing
that
was
brought
in
one
of
the
voters
meetings
was
that
will
attract
people
from
like
across
Jamaica
Plain
to
drive
to
this
dog
park,
which
is
gonna,
make
an
already
pretty
cramped
parking
situation,
even
more
cramped,
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
reasonable
solution
to
this,
like
I'm
privileged
to
have
a
driveway
at
my
property,
but
like
I,
know
that
my
neighbors
like
rely
on
parking
to
like
access
their
house,
and
what
have
you
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
solution
there,
I
just
I,
didn't
hear
it
in
the
design
plans.
R
If
you
know
parking
is
a
consideration
for
that,
so
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
you
could
like
talk
to
that,
if
there's
any
planner,
if
it's
just
like
or
Sol
as
Neighbors
in
a
Butters
here
so
like
you
know,
there's
just
you
know
just
gonna
be
more
congestion,
so
that
that's
my
two
cents
this
one
thanks.
Everyone.
A
Thank
you,
Ryan
I
have
had
a
number
of
conversations
and
attempts
with
streets,
and
we
got
to
a
point
where
they
were
sort
of
looking
to
see
if
they
could
include
some
improvements
in
this
area
with
a
project
that's
happening
slightly
further
to
the
North
in
eagleson
square
and
I
have
not
been
able
to
hear
anything
back
from
them.
A
They
understand
that
traffic
calming
is
a
serious
desire
of
this
community.
They
understand
that
we
are
renovating
the
park
and
I
have
not
been
able
to
get
any
further
information
from
them.
I
know
that
they're
it's
kind
of
disheartening.
They
had
a
program,
they
have
a
program
called
slow
streets.
That
was
an
option
for
people
to
get
a
bunch
of
signatures
and
submit
to
be
their
next
program,
their
next
project
and
they
actually
stopped
taking
new
projects
because
there
were
there
were
so
much
Community
interests
in
having
Street
slow
streets.
A
So,
as
you
noted
we're
the
parks
department
and
we
can't
do
Street
markings
or
raised
crosswalks
or
part
of
that
as
our
project,
but
I
will
continue
to
try
and
push
that
and
see
if
we
can
incorporate
something
like
that,
because
I
hear
you
100
so
I
hope
that
answers
your
question
and
I
agree.
Maybe
all
the
streets
should
be
slow.
Yes,
Jana
Brian.
S
Yeah
hi:
this
is
Brian
I'm
from
Cornwall
Street
I've
been
playing
in
that
playground,
since
it
was
a
a
flat
asphalt
field,
but
I
I'm
I'm.
Just
here
to
reiterate
exactly
what
Ryan
said:
I'm
right
up
the
street
and
this
Cornwall
Street
has
become
a
cut
through
for
people
going
from
Forest
Hill
Street
down
to
Amory
Street,
and
it's
got
to
be
a
way
to
slow
that
traffic
down.
So
hopefully
you
can
somehow
get
someone
on
board
to
help
out
with
that.
S
The
only
other
thing
about
the
the
dog
park
and
I'm
okay
with
the
dog
park
thing,
but
of
the
several
I've
seen
lately
that
was
separated
into
small
dogs
and
big
dogs.
The
under
25
pound
dogs
are
on
one
side
and
bigger
dogs.
On
the
other
side.
I,
don't
know.
If
that's
some,
you
dog
people
will
have
to
sort
that
out,
but
yeah.
If
you
can
find
some
way
to
slow
down
the
traffic
that'd
that'd
make
a
lot
of
us
happy
on
Cornwall
Street
and
thanks
Ryan
you're.
T
S
J
Am
I
unmuted?
My
second
question,
thank
you
for
taking
me
again.
I
didn't
really
get
to
ask
when
will
the
details,
and
maybe
this
is
for
Melissa
hamillis
she's.
Still
there
it's
really
good
to
meet
you
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
talk
as
as
a
Butters
to
Flaherty,
Park
I'm,
hoping
that
I
can
reach
out
to
you
or
you
to
me,
but
one
with
details
about
how
the
park
dog
park
will
be
run
like
hours
clean
up.
When
will
that
happen?
A
A
So
it's
it's
really
gonna
be
on
the
parks
department
and
we
are
looking
to
JP
dogs
to
or
JP
friends
of,
jpdog
parks,
I
think
to
help
us
with
the
sort
of
community
aspect
of
making
sure
that
people
are
there.
You
know
who
are
you
know
understand
that
what
a
good
citizen
should
do,
how
they
should
behave
if
there
are
signs
that
are
like
falling
off,
they
will
notify
us
if
there
is
a
consistent
lack
of
dog
bags
in
the
dispenser,
they
can
notify
us.
A
You
know
they're
sort
of
they're
not
going
to
be
responsible
for
getting
out
there
with
a
shovel
or
a
hammer
or
fixing
anything,
but
we're
asking
them
to
be
perhaps
like
slightly
more
responsible
community
members
than
your
average
Joe
walking
by
to
let
us
know
how
the
dog
park
is
doing
essentially
and
obviously
a
Butters.
You
guys
can
let
us
know
that
as
well.
A
Basically,
anyone
it'd
be
great
to
hear
if
there
are
things
that
we
can
address.
You
know,
because
it
is
in
our
interest
as
well,
that
people
are
as
happy
as
possible.
So.
J
A
J
You
mean
yeah
kind
of
sorta
and
and
again
I'm,
not
sure
if
Melissa
Hamill
is
there,
but
it
would
be
nice
as
in
a
butter
since
you're
going
to
be
working
directly
with
the
JP
Friends
dog
park
and
I
apologize.
If
that's
the
wrong
term
for
you
guys,
but
it
would
be
nice
for
us
to
be
able
to
speak
with
them,
and
you
know
just
figure
out.
J
A
J
I
How
you
guys
doing
so,
my
my
my
my
biggest
concern.
This
is
my
first
time
in
a
meeting,
but
it
seems,
like
you
guys,
have
already
drawn
a
conclusion
and-
and
we
won't
have
any
say
over
at
being
a
Butters
of
how
that
Park
is
gonna,
turn
out.
A
A
But
one
of
the
slides
that
we
shared
was
the
timeline
for
the
project
thus
far,
and
we
have
been
in
conversation
with
the
community
thanks
Jade
for
quite
some
time
about
how
this
park
should
be
developed.
So
so.
I
I
L
B
A
U
Could
hear
you
for
a
second
okay?
Now
you
can
hear
me
all
right.
Yes,
first
of
all,
I
wish
you
were
told
that
gentleman
that
he
should
have
been
part
of
the
product.
He
said
it
was
his
first
time
you
know,
and
if
it
was
his
first
time
a
lot
of
us
have
been
here
through
the
whole
process.
U
You
know
it's
nice
that
he
join
now,
but
I
mean
I
feel
sad,
he's
wasting
his
you
know.
A
lot
of
us
have
wasted
our
work
to
try
and
work
together
with
our
fellow
JP
residents,
Anna
Butters,
to
try
and
get
something
going
in
this
park
and
for
someone
to
come
now
and
be
upset
that
we
wasted.
That
last
comment
got
me
upset
and
that
wasn't
why
I
had
my
hand
raised,
but
I
just
wanted
to
address
that
that
was
kind
of
sarcastic
and
necessary,
but.
E
U
I
am
part
of
JP
dog
parks,
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
has
read
the
chats,
but
in
a
prior
meetings,
even
the
first
meeting
I'm
an
RN
I
read
medical
articles.
I
found
a
whole
bunch
of
lay
articles
which
I
put
in
the
chats
in
Prior
meetings.
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
read
them
of
the
benefit
of
dog
parks
in
Lay
language,
but
based
on
accredited
studies
from
universities
and
other
places.
U
This
dog
park
will
be
a
benefit,
as
Melissa
was
trying
to
say
to
people.
If
you
give
it
a
chance
and
it
will
enhance
the
park
and
if
you're
worried
about
for
somebody
staying
a
non-legitimate
dog
park,
has
dust
and
still
smells
bad
in
cold
weather.
Well,
that's
because
it's
not
an
accredited
or
a
well-kept
up.
True
dog
park,
a
legitimate
dog
park,
dog
parks.
If
they're
done
correctly
and
I
heard
the
materials
you're
using,
they
usually
have
a
friends
group.
U
If
your
dog
is
not
behaving
or
if
you're
not
going
to
pick
up
after
your
dog,
then
you
have
to
leave
the
dog
park.
That
usually
is
what
happens
at
dog
parks.
I've
had
a
pet
care,
I
mean
I,
rent
it
over
45
years,
I'm
a
mom
I'm,
a
JP
resident
and
I've.
Also
I'm
a
dog
trainer
also
and
I've
had
a
pet
care.
U
U
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
people
have
been
following
this
process
took
the
time
to
read
any
of
the
articles
I
sent
out
in
Prior
Jets
to
see
that
this
would
actually
enhance
the
lives
of
everybody
that
uses
a
bark
in
many
ways,
but
and
I
took
the
time
to
do
that.
And
if
anybody
wants
to
send
me
something
in
the
chat
now
I'll
try
and
get
those
articles
out
to
you
again,
because
I
did
your
homework
for
you.
But
it's
kind
of
upsetting,
because
I
didn't
get
much
response.
U
I
also
sent
10
or
11
articles
in
my
account
and
Kendra
Lara,
and
to
hear
them
or
got
back
to
me
about
them,
and
they
are
of
the
benefits
to
people
even
watching
dogs
that
play
so.
What
what
my
point
is
here
is
that
a
lot
of
us
have
worked
hard
for
years,
and
this
will
be
a
good
thing
for
the
park.
It
will
not
necessarily
be
a
thing
that
that
hurts
anybody
but
helps
people
and
I
think
I'm.
U
A
You
so
much
kaliga
see
kaliga.
You
definitely.
U
A
I
appreciate
your
input,
and
that
is
I
that's
that's
great.
Thank
you
so
much.
G
V
Unmute
my
audio
I
I
I,
initially
raised
my
hands
because
it
seemed
like
everyone's
speaking
was
against
the
dog
park
and
I
am
close
enough
to
be
considered
in
the
butter
I'm
on
Cornwall,
Street
and
I.
Just
want
to
reiterate,
like
C,
was
saying
that
most
people
who
use
dog
parks
really
do
police
each
other.
V
I,
don't
want
some
dog
barking
in
my
dog's
face
either
you
know,
manners
are
essential
for
civilization,
and
you
know
there
are
always
going
to
be
people
who
are
rude
in
any
group
of
people,
but
I
think
that
it's.
This
is
a
real
need
and
I'm
very
hopeful
and
pretty
optimistic
about
it
being
a
good
situation.
V
There
probably
will
be
people
who
drive
to
the
dog
park.
Probably
people
who
have
very
young
dogs
puppies
who
really
need
to
get
some
off-leash
exercise
but
I
think
that
there's
kind
of
a
lot
of
unnecessary
fear-mongering
around
it
and
I
think
that,
like
myself,
there
are
many
people
who,
if
they
see
a
stray
poop,
pick
it
up
while
they're
picking
up
their
own.
V
And
you
know
this
is
a
need
and
I'm
glad
that
it's
being
addressed
even
though
I
do
agree
that
it
is
not
ideal
and
I
really
appreciate
the
explanation
for
why
the
park
can't
be
on
the
slopes,
because
you
know
we
all
like
that
area
kind
of
up
under
the
trees,
a
lot
better
than
the
flat
area
and
I
really
wish
the
flat
area
could
stay.
You
know
a
sports
area,
but
the
trees
are
the
important
thing,
because
that
is
the
character
of
the
park.
A
W
Yes,
good
evening,
I
just
have
two
clarifying
questions
and
this
kind
of
gets
into
the
the
nitty-gritty
details
and
numbers,
but
I
was
hoping
to
understand
what
informs
the
100
feet:
kind
of
barrier
or
kind
of
buffer
zone
between
the
dog
park
and
a
Butters
as
well
as
if
we
know
you
know
what
informs
the
designation
that
10
000
square
feet
for
a
dog
park
is
considered.
You
know
quote
ideal
I
didn't
know
if
anyone
could
offer
any
insight
to
what
what
informs
those
numbers
and
decisions.
A
We
have
derived
these
rules
of
thumb.
They're,
not
you
know
it's
based
off
of
our
experience
and
10
000
square
feet.
You
know
we're
talking
about
the
land
that
we
have
available
in
the
city
of
Boston,
which
is
minimal.
So,
ideally,
you'd
have
like
hundreds
of
thousands
of
feet
for
dogs,
because
dogs
love
to
run
and
jump,
and
you
know
but
sort
of
10
000
is
the
minimum
that
we've
noticed
is
is
maintainable
easily
maintainable
kind
of
thing
we
do
go
smaller.
A
There
are
a
number
of
dog
parks
that
are
smaller
and
I.
Think
it's
one
of
those
things
where
you
try
and
make
things
fit
in
the
most
ideal
way
possible
and
when
things
don't
fit,
you
know
you
try
and
make
it
work.
So,
in
this
park
a
hundred
feet
off
of
the
property
line,
those
Butters
is
possible.
A
A
You
know,
and
the
the
square
footage
is,
is
sort
of
what
we've
noticed
seems
to
work
well
in
our
Park
system,
thus
far,
so
that's
not
like
I
wish
I
could
point
to
like
18
different
scientific
papers.
That
pointed
us
towards
these
conclusions,
but
it's
really
just
like
our
boots
on
the
ground
experience
and
what
we've
seen.
W
I,
just
primarily
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that
the
the
dog
owners
weren't,
you
know,
being
com
being
forced
to
be
compromised
in
terms
of
accepting
a
less
than
quote
ideal
space,
because
I
know
that
it's
been
the
recurring
history.
W
That
kind
of
the
the
dog
community
in
JP
has
been
shot
down
year
after
year
after
year
after
year,
and
just
wanted
to
you
know
just
make
sure
that
there
wasn't
there
wasn't
anything
that
we
were
being
forced
to
compromise,
given
the
space
with
what
10
000
square
feet
being
ideal,
just
making
sure
that
you
know
we're
not
I,
guess
forcing
to
compromise
for
something
that's
less
than
ideal.
X
Thank
you
so
I'm,
an
immediate
about
her
to
the
park
we've
lived
here
going
on
almost
25
years,
I
mean
my
biggest
concerns.
We
also
own
dogs,
I've,
had
dogs
all,
but
two
years
of
that,
25
years
right
now,
I
have
two
dogs
I
used
to
park
all
the
time
and
I'm
not
clamoring
for
a
dog
run,
fenced-in
dog
run
there
I
I
mean
I,
could
understand,
wanting
to
have
a
space
for
dogs
that
was
open
that
didn't
fence
everyone
out
of
the
park,
but
I
don't
understand
this
project.
X
It
just
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
and
I'll.
Tell
you
a
few
reasons
why
so,
historically,
and
and
traditionally
and
culturally,
this
park
has
a
small
pocket
park,
it
serves
the
immediate
neighborhood,
that's
what
it's
for!
That's
what
it
was
designed
for
and
that's
what
it's
always
been
used
for
now:
you're
changing
the
park
to
something
that
is
a
destination
car
for
people
all
over
the
city
to
make
a
plane
has
plenty
of
destination
Parks.
We
have
Franklin
Park,
we
have
the
corridor,
we
have
the
the
pond.
This
is
not
a
destination
Park.
X
X
X
This
is
not
an
ideal
spot
for
the
dog
park.
It's
small!
X
It's
there's,
there's
not
a
lot
of
parking,
it's
not
conveniently
located
and
it's
just
putting
a
square
peg
into
a
round
hole,
and
so
what
you're
doing
is
giving
us
half
a
loaf
and
taking
away
what
was
a
multi-use
area
for
this
park
for
the
neighborhood,
the
major
open
area
of
this
park
is
being
now
compromised
for
one
use
only
for
dogs,
no
one's
going
to
go
inside
and
play
in
this
area,
except
for
people
with
dogs.
So
it's
not
a
multi-use
area
anymore.
X
T
X
X
So
clearly
something
happened
along
the
way
and
it
was
a
survey.
Well,
you
know,
a
lot
of
us
can
tell
you
that
it's
easy
to
give
the
ex.
You
know
the
the
to
sort
of
make
process.
Look
on
the
internet
look
large
and
voluminous,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
represent
What's
Happening
Here
on
the
ground
anyway,
I
appreciate
you
giving
me
the
chance
to
talk
about
this.
T
Thank
you.
This
is
actually
Hawkins
bad
Jimmy
I'm,
just
I
want
to
reiterate
what
Stephen
said
around
the
process,
because
the
the
three
designs
that
were
presented
in
the
second
community
meeting,
none
of
which
had
dog
park
included.
T
T
T
I
understand
and
B.
You
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
Spanish
version
was
not
available
at
the
same
time
that
the
original
survey
came
out
in
English
and
the
other
thing
I
want
to
uplift
around
in
the
chat
came
around
the
parks
that
are
available
on
this
side
of
the
tracks
of
the
of
the
of
the
railroad
tracks
and
I
I
just
want
somebody
to
do
the
analysis
of
how
many
are
available,
because
there's
one
between
Jackson
Square
and
Forest
Hill
I,
just
I
I,
to
what
Stephen
said.
T
A
Thanks
for
your
thoughts,
you
know
I
think
there's
always
room
for
improvement
as
far
as
inclusion
and
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
we're
always
trying
to
do
better.
As
far
as
the
translation
of
the
survey,
it
was
requested
that
we
translate
it
at
the
meeting,
so
I
think
it
was
shared
in
English
at
the
meeting
and
we
were
able
to
get
it
translated
by
two
weeks
after
the
meeting.
A
So
the
survey
was
up
for
a
month
or
six
weeks,
so
there
was
a
period
of
time
in
which
only
English
was
available,
but
we
put
flyers
on
the
park
indicating
that
this
survey
was
available,
and
you
know
I
think
that
the
process
being
sort
of
confusing
like
the
first
two
meetings
there
were
no
mentions
as
far
as
like
the
design
Direction
with
you
know,
including
a
dog
park.
A
That's
because
our
general
Mo
at
the
parks
department
is
not
to
do
dog
perks,
and
you
know
we,
we
sort
of
squashed
that
pretty
quickly
in
the
first
two
meetings
and
those
points
were
still
brought
up.
People
still
said
I.
We
want
this
to
be
a
dog
bark
at
those.
First,
two
meetings,
and
then
you
know
there
was
enough
support
that
we
received
over
email
Etc
from
electeds
that
we
changed
Direction
by
the
third
meeting.
So
you
know
it
was
not
a.
It
was
not
a
straight
shot.
A
It
was
not
a
everyone
could
tell
what
was
happening.
The
writing
was
on
the
wall,
but
I
think
that's
the
nature
of
a
community
conversation.
You
know
it's
that,
like
you're,
not
always
aware
of
the
general
feelings.
A
Sometimes
surveys
are
useful.
Sometimes
you
know
your
feeling
is
that
it
sort
of
gave
us
misdirection,
but
you
know,
like
I,
said,
the
survey
was
not
the
only
thing
that
we
were
going
on.
A
So
you
know
I,
I,
sympathize
that
there
was
feeling
among
this
group
that
the
Outreach
and
the
the
predictability
of
this
path
was
not
always
there,
but
I
think
that's
just
sort
of
the
nature
of
the
Beast
of
trying
to
include
as
many
opinions
and
trying
to
discern
what
the
majority
support
is.
It's
not
always
easy,
and
it's
not
always
clear
and
I-
think
we've
done
a
pretty
good
job.
Was
it
perfect?
A
No
I
get
that?
Are
we
gonna
try
and
do
better
always?
Are
we
ever
gonna
get
perfect?
No,
are
we
always
gonna?
Try?
Yes,
you
know
so
I
hear
you
and
I
I
hope.
You
hear
me.
Y
Hi,
my
name
is
Isabella
I
go
to
the
school
Raphael
Hernandez
and
I'm
really
excited
about
this
dog
park,
because
after
school
I
can
go
to
the
dog
park,
I
can
hang
out
with
my
dog,
and
my
dad
and
I
can
play
with
my
dog.
I
can
like
we
can
like
hang
out
at
the
dog
park,
so
I'm
really
excited.
Thank
you
for
the
stock
part.
A
E
Z
Yeah
thanks
Pete
I,
wanted
to
just
raise
a
point
that
I,
don't
think
has
been
raised
here
today.
We
had
heard
in
a
previous
conversation
that
there
was
commitment
from
the
from
the
mayor's
office
to
get
one
dog
park
in
every
neighborhood
in
the
city
and
I
know
that
Tiffany
is
on
the
line.
I
wondered
whether
or
not
she
could
address
that
and
there's
I
guess.
There's
a
question
too.
K
Q
Mayor's
office
of
Neighborhood
Services
or
the
Jamaica
Plain
liaison,
as
many
of
you
may
know
me,
I,
don't
have
anything
official
from
the
mayor's
standpoint
in
terms
of
an
update
for
tonight's
meeting
in
relation
to
the
celebrity
Park
redesign,
but
I
wanted
to
thank
everyone.
Q
Who's
already
been
in
contact
with
my
office
with
my
leadership
and
have
been
very
active
in
being
a
part
of
this
process,
especially
for
the
director
Butters,
who
many
have
come
out
to
my
coffee
hours
and
have
reached
out,
like
I
mentioned,
to
leadership
and
or
to
the
mayor
herself
I'm
looking
forward
to
continuing
these
conversations,
but
at
this
point
in
time,
I
don't
have
any
direct
update
from
the
mayor's
office.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah
there
are
so
many
different
comments
here
in
the
chat,
a
lot
of
different
topics,
so
I
honestly,
am
not
sure
if
I
bring
up
one.
It's
like
there
are
a
number
of
ones
that
aren't
going
to
get
mentioned.
I,
don't
know
like
I
mentioned
before
everything
that's
put
in
this
chat
is
part
of
the
document
tonight.
A
Part
of
the
record.
So
thank
you
for
submitting
your
comments.
You
know
I
think
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
things
here
that
have
been
brought
up
already.
A
A
Q
L
We
just
watched
this
remind
everybody
that
go
to
the
doctor's
office
and-
and
we
also
yeah
so
few
thief's,
all
around
that
we
should
add
a
seesaw,
because.
G
K
Also
Dante
keeps
saying
in
the
chat
about
the
handrails
and
I
think
I
know
what
they're
talking
about
and
B
I
sent
you
a
photo
of
what
they're
talking
about
back
in
I,
think
April
and
I
just
re-sent
it
on
your
email,
so
that
you
can
see
what
they're
talking
about
that
in
a
way
that
kids
use
the
playground.
That's
not
necessarily
obvious
from
just
looking
at
the
playground.
We
may
not
have
seen
so
it's
it's
in
your
email
again.
Let
me
know
if
those
photos
didn't
come
through.
A
That's
great
and
super
helpful
I
think
there
are
two
things
here,
though
I
I
remember
the
photo
that
you
sent
me
the
ramp,
that
sort
of
curved
area
that
and
and
the
portion
right
next
to
the
ramp,
but
I
think
Dante's
actually
referring
to
skateboarding
and
they
like
the
the
handrails
that
go
down
a
number
of
the
steps
and
the
ramp
for
skateboarding
and
BMX,
and
there
we
go
BMX
skateboarding
there
we
go
and
I've
been
emailing
with
someone
who
also
is
an
enthusiastic
fan
of
this,
and
we
I
was
funny.
A
This
has
not
come
up
in
this
community
process.
That's
interesting
because
I,
that's
that's
great
in
some
ways
because
it
means
it's
not
a
problem
by
people
who
don't
skateboard
and
often
where
you
have
a
popular
destination.
That
apparently
this
is.
You
have
people
who
don't
skateboard
being
like
skateboarders,
but
it
hasn't
happened
here.
A
It
seems
like
everyone's
coexisting,
so
that's
awesome
and
you
know
I
think
that
scootering
right,
like
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
wheeled
activities,
we're
gonna,
be
you
know,
I
think
the
ramp
that
he's
talking
about
that
you're
talking
about
is
still
going
to
be
maintained.
A
We're
also
installing
a
new
Ada
ramp.
There
are
going
to
be
handrails,
I,
don't
know
if
we'll
be
keeping
the
existing
handrails,
but
we
will
be
installing
new
handrails.
We
need
handrails
at
our
stairs
and
ramps.
So
that's
that's
not
something
that
I
think
is
is
a
problem
so.
B
AA
Yes,
yes,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
express
my
support
for
the
design.
I
think
it's
a
made.
A
great
compromise
between
all
the
different
sides.
I
know
there's
sort
of
a
big
war
going
on
here,
but
you've
got
a
little
bit
of
everything
in
and
I
appreciate,
even
the
empty
space
at
the
end
where
people
can
sit
and
there's
trees
and
it's
nicely
landscaped.
AA
So
you
know
I
I'd
like
to
end
on
a
positive
note
that
I
think
you
did
a
good
good
job
of
pulling
it
all
together
with
room
for
all
three
things
that
we
need
in
our
neighborhood
I.
Just
I
I
did
put
it
in
the
chat
but
I'm
concerned
about
the
sound
thing
that
you
know
if
the
kids
are
like
playing
with
this,
like
whatever
sound
element,
this
is
it's
going
to
be
really
annoying
to
the
you
know:
quiet
reflective
area
with
the
trees
and
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
and
I
thought.
A
The
playground,
so
we
have
Incorporated
some
of
those
elements
if
those
are
firmly
opposed.
I
think
there
was
some
opposition,
but
it
didn't
seem
like
a
huge
amount.
So
I
don't
know
what
what
are
the
thoughts
out
there.
People
feel
strongly
in
support
of
it.
You
know
we
don't
have
to
put
them
in
if
it
doesn't
seem
like
something.
That's
appropriate
and
I
hear
that
you're
saying
it's
not
so
yeah
that's
connected
I.
AA
A
AA
J
Oh
I'm,
just
the
third
time
goer
listen,
I
want
to
address.
There's
no
war
going
on
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that's
known
there
really
isn't
a
war
going
on
as
a
Butters.
You
know
we
don't
want
a
dog
park
in
this
particular
space,
especially
in
the
middle
of
the
park.
I
think
that's
what
we
were
more
opposing
that
that
space
is
used
and
that
we're
worried
about
the
details
that
have
not
been
laid
out
on
this
and
and
how
it's
going
to
affect
our
quality
of
life.
J
So
no
war,
no
fight
it
just
is
you
know
it's
people
that
live
and
have
taken
care
of
this
part.
You
know
we
would
like
to
be
heard.
We
would
like
to
be
worked
with
and
I
know
B.
You
have
listened
to
me
and
a
lot
so
I
appreciate
that
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that,
but
again
it's
just
being
on
different
sides
of
the
road
here
and
we
can
meet
in
the
middle
somehow.
J
So
when
I
hear
that
you
know
things,
don't
always
work
out
for
one
side,
you
know
I'm
I'm,
not
a
firm
believer
in
that
I
think
that
we
can
work
together
even
if
we
oppose
and
don't
agree
so
no
war
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
really
figuring
this
out
and
how
we
are
going
to
coexist
with
this
dog
park.
So
that's
all
I
wanted
to
say,
because
I
I
feel
like
there's
a
whole
conversation
outside
of
that's
not
true.
A
I
think
that
that
is
a
very
great
sentiment
and
I
agree
that
this
will
be
something
where
everybody
gets
a
little
bit
of
input
and
a
little
piece
of
the
design
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
the
Butters
and
the
friends
of
JP
dog
parks
to
refine
what
this
dog
area
looks
like
what
the
sort
of
final
design
elements
are.
I
think
we've
heard
a
ton
of
great
input,
some
contentious
viewpoints
tonight,
some
some
great
inclusive
ones.
A
You
know
I
think
that
we've
we've
heard
the
range
of
of
feelings
tonight,
so
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
taking
the
time
and
participating.
I
think
that
this
has
been.
This
has
been
great.
This
has
been
hard,
but
it's
been
good
I.
You
know
never
under
the
impression
that
Community
process
is
easy.
So
thank
you
all
and
I'll
be
in
touch
with
those
folks
that
we're
gonna
progress.
This
design
with.
Thank
you.
So
much
have
a
good
night.