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Parks Commission Hearing February 27, 2023
A
B
Yes-
and
we
have
been
advised
by
the
Law
Department
that
we
do
need
to
read
it
all
into
the
record.
So
this
is
a
vote
to
execute
an
order
of
taking
dated
February
27
2023
to
fire
the
fee,
simple
interest,
inclusive,
inclusive
of
trees
and
structures
standing
upon
and
affix
there
too,
of
two
Parcels
containing
51
545
square
feet
more
or
less
of
land
now
or
formerly
owned
by
Lakeside
development.
B
A
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
so
I'm
gonna,
actually
I'm,
not
gonna,
share
my
screen
right
now.
I'm
going
to
you
know
just
talk
about.
You
know
some
background
here.
For
several
years,
the
parks
and
recreation
department
has
been
engaged
in
a
process
of
developing
a
program
to
acquire
land
for
open
space
Not
only
from
land
owned
by
other
City
agencies
or
as
the
result
of
development
processes
such
as
Transportation
improvements
and
housing
or
commercial
developments,
but
also
privately
held
lands
as
well
having.
C
Several
years
ago,
the
citizens
of
Boston
voted
in
the
community
preservation
act,
thereby
creating
a
community
preservation
fund
sourced
from
property,
tax
surcharges
and
allocations
from
the
state
treasury
on
a
yearly
basis.
The
City's
community
preservation
committee,
disperses
Millions
for
affordable
housing,
historic
preservation
and
open
space
projects.
C
One
type
of
project
that
can
be
funded
by
the
CPA
is
open
space
acquisition.
The
department
therefore
sought
out
this
opportunity
and
put
together
applications
for
an
open
space
acquisition
fund.
The
2021
CPA
disbursement
yielded,
1
million,
the
2022
disbursement
yielded
1.3
million,
and
the
2023
disbursement
will
yield
as
of
next
month
and
another
1.2
million.
C
C
The
very
active
and
diverse
Community
interests
expressed
for
this
acquisition,
including
the
city's
own
Hyde,
Park
neighborhood
strategic
plan
and
the
active
threat
of
development
to
these
highly
sensitive
resources,
in
contradiction
to
the
Strategic
plans
recommendation.
The
department
chose
these
two
Parcels
as
our
first
project.
In
acquiring
privately
owned,
Parcels
for
public
open
space,
it's
a
challenging
project,
not
a
turnkey
type
of
project,
but
we
are
working
diligently
on
this
effort.
C
I
will
go
now
to
the
presentation
we
provided
the
parks
Committee
of
the
city
council
when
they
held
a
hearing
last
June
on
the
mayor's
request
to
authorize
in
accordance
with
the
CPA
law,
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Commission
to
take
by
eminent
domain
this
property
and
to
authorize
the
commission
to
Grant
a
conservation
restriction
on
land
acquired
using
CPA
fund
again
proceed.
The
CPA
law
to
the
Southwest
Boston
CDC
that'll
be
the
subject
of
a
second
vote.
C
C
Back
back
in
June,
this
was
docket
number
zero,
six,
five,
three,
the
order
to
authorize
the
taking
of
this
parcel,
as
well
as
to
Grant
the
CR.
That's
all
required
by
the
Community
preservation
act.
We're
using
Community
preservation
act,
funds
to
acquire
this
parcel
I
mean
this
will
refer
it
a
little
bit
later.
We
also
have
a
state
Grant
involved,
so
that
will
reduce
the
city's.
C
C
It's
now
approximately
eight
acres
in
size,
so
great
ponds
are
considered
state-owned
resources.
So
by
virtue
of
that,
the
state
has
a
policy
that
these
ponds
are
open
to
the
public
for
swimming
fishing
boating,
and
so
the
the
only
concern
with
this
policy
is
that
how
do
you
get
access
to
the
water?
D
C
C
C
You
know
depiction
of
the
the
plan
here.
This
lands
is
also
within
the
state
designated
Ponca
bug,
POG
foul
Meadow
Ace,
the
area
of
critical
environmental
concern.
These
are
considered
environmentally
sensitive
areas
that
require
greater
review
by
state
agencies.
So
you
can
see
here,
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
see
my
cursor
but
where
it
says
approximate
location
of
spray
pond,
that's
in
that
little
upper
area
there
it's
within
that
green
area,.
C
C
It's
in
a
environmental
justice
neighborhood
according
to
the
state-
and
you
know,
as
it
mentions
that
here
many
EJ
populations
are
located
in
densely
populated
Urban
neighborhoods
in
and
around
the
state's
oldest
industrial
sites,
and
certainly
this
area
of
Reedville
in
Hyde
Park
qualifies
as
a
you
know.
A
very
industrialized
area,
folks
who
live
around
here,
are
cheek
by
gel
with
large
industrial
and
warehousing
uses
for
the
state
policy.
You
know
such
you
know.
C
The
University
of
Massachusetts
has
done
mapping
to
show
heat
impacts
during
high
heat
events,
and
this
area
is
in
the
fourth
quartile,
meaning
the
most
heavily
impacted
during
heat
events,
and
so
let's
see
yep
right
about
here
is
where
Sprague
Pond
is
so.
This
is
considered
vulnerable.
It's
a
high
heat
events,
so
maintaining
this
vegetated
site
with
access
to
water
helps
to
maintain
a
cooling
Zone.
That
is,
you
know
beneficial
for
this
highly
vulnerable
area.
Whoops.
C
So
this
has
the
potential
of
being
a
nationally
significant
historical,
cultural,
archaeological
resource,
particularly
the
fact
that
this
was
located
in
the
area
of
Camp
Meeks,
the
Civil,
War,
training,
camp
and
Hospital
on
the
site.
It
was
where
the
54th
Massachusetts
volunteer,
regiment
trained.
They
were
the
first
military
unit
consisting
of
black
soldiers
to
be
raised
in
the
North
during
the
Civil
War,
another
Infantry
Regiment.
C
The
55th
was
also
you
know,
composed
of
black
soldiers,
as
well
as
the
fifth
Cavalry,
and
so
the
significance
of
this
is
Paramount
and
want
to.
You
know:
I've
gotten
many
Communications,
as
you
noted
in
I've
noted
in
the
information
packet
that
historians
connected
to
African-American
studies
as
well
as
civil
war.
History
believe
this
is
a
very
important
site
for
the
interpretation
of
this
aspect
of
the
Civil
War
and
again.
C
This
is
an
example
of
that
mention
here
that
there,
the
determination
and
heroism
of
these
soldiers
is
deemed
oftentimes
to
have
helped
turn
the
tide
in
the
Civil
War.
The
only
other
site
that
is
important
in
interpretation
of
their
history
is
Fort
Wagner
and
it's
on
the
South
Carolina
coast,
and
it
is
eroding
away
thanks
to
sea
level
rise
and
hurricanes
and
wave
actions.
C
So
this
this
location
is
the
best
location
to
be
able
to
yield
artifacts
and
also
become
a
suitable
site
for
Memorial
and
interpretation
I'm,
not
going
to
say
much
on
archeology.
Basically,
Joe
magley
has
the
Thunder
here,
but
you
can
see
here.
The
Massachusetts
tribe
was
a
predominant
tribe
in
this
in
the
Boston
area.
C
Then,
when
you
vote
on
the
second
item,
which
is
the
vote
on
the
conservation
restriction,
you'd
be
authorizing,
commissioner
Woods
to
sign
on
behalf
of
the
department
that
would
that
signature
would
then
take
place
and
then
we'd
obtain
the
signature
of
the
the
grantee,
the
CDC
and
also
the
eoea
executive
secretary.
Then
we
record
the
order.
The
CR
and
the
park
Grant
project
agreement
treasury
will
prepare
a
check
for
the
owner
to
pick
up
external
Affairs
at
parks
and
the
mayor's
office
will
work
on
an
announcement
event.
C
E
Great
okay,
yeah:
my
comments
are
fairly
brief.
I
would
just
say
that
the
the
city
has
long
been
interested
in
access
to
and
conservation
of
land
at
Sprague
Pond.
It's
interesting
that
the
Boston
Planning
and
Development
agency
first
identified
this
area
at
Sprague
Pawn
as
an
area
of
real
conservation
interest,
and
it's
it's.
E
It's
highly
unusual
that
at
this
point
that
there's
a
pond
in
a
in
a
fairly
Natural
State,
that's
still
largely
intact
within
the
city
limits,
as
you
saw
from
some
of
one
of
the
pictures
presented
earlier,
the
pond
Edge
is,
is
still
largely
vegetated,
despite
some
of
the
adjacent
Parcels
being
developed.
But
it's
really.
It
really
is
the
larger
context.
Aldo
made
reference
to
the
the
foul
Meadow
and
Ponca
POG
acec.
That's
basically
a
very
large
Wildlife
Sanctuary
complex.
E
The
the
foul
Meadow
in
fact
has
the
largest
Wetland
and
flood
plain
in
the
entire
Neponset
River
Basin
and
the
acec
it's
it
does.
It
is
home
to
a
number
of
of
State
listed
rare
species.
So
it's
a
it's
a
very
significant
area,
despite
the
fact
that
there
is
an
industrial
railroad,
Corridor
running
nearby,
the
site
that,
because
of
that
vegetated
border
around
the
pond,
the
water
quality
is
still
quite
good
and
capable
of
supporting
healthy
fish
populations.
E
And
again
it's
that
vegetated
border.
That's
so
important
to
supporting
native
and
migrating
waterfowl
birds
and
waterfowl
habitat
and
and
again
it's
it's.
The
the
idea
of
wildlife,
habitat
corridors,
its
connection
to
the
greater
acec.
So
it's
a
very,
very
significant
site
in
terms
of
natural
resource
values.
F
Good
morning,
everyone,
so
what
I'll
be
sharing
today
is
the
story
of
the
archaeological
sensitivity
of
spray
pond,
because
there
hasn't
been
any
archaeological
excavations
on
the
pond.
A
lot
of
this
is
kind
of
based
on
prior
experience
in
other
places,
but
I
want
to
kind
of
stress
today
why
I'm
concerned
about
the
site
from
an
archaeological
perspective,
Paul's
talking
also
about
ecological
impacts,
but
I'm
not
gonna,
be
talking
as
much
about
that.
F
So
the
way
we
review
whether
a
site
is
archaeologically
sensitive,
which
essentially
means
do,
we
think
there
could
be
a
good
chance
that
there's
an
archaeological
site
on
a
property.
Some
of
the
things
that
we
look
for
is
its
proximity
to
water,
its
relative
topography
related
to
other
areas
specifically.
Does
it
does
it
have
a
space
that
can
actually
Rise
Up
from
the
surrounding
area
for
essentially
drainage?
Does
it
does
it
create
a
dry
space?
Does
it
have
significant
view
sheds
or
is
it
near
significant
ecological
features?
F
Things
like
waterfalls,
the
confluences
of
rivers,
significant
Mountains
views
of
the
shoreline
things
like
that,
and
is
it
also
near
other
archaeological
sites
that
have
already
been
documented,
because
areas
of
significance
tend
to
have
significantly
more
presence
of
native
archaeological
sites
in
the
ground?
What
I
want
to
stress
before
we
go
forward
from
here
two
significant
parts
of
this
one
is
an
acknowledgment
that
Massachusetts
sites
here
in
Boston,
but
also
in
the
surrounding
area,
are
not
exclusively
identified
through
the
presence
of
native
Creations
or
native
artifacts.
F
But
that
is
one
way
that
archaeologists
like
me
are
able
to
document
those
sites,
so
things
like
Pottery,
stone
tools,
shells
from
food
and
other
types
of
bone
related
to
food,
but
also
burials
as
well.
Those
are
the
archaeological
evidence
of
sites,
but
not
necessarily
the
exclusive
evidence
of
the
presence
of
native
people
on
a
landscape.
I
also
wanted
to
to
just
to
acknowledge
that
the
decisions
that
the
recommendations
that
I'm
making
here
about
the
sensitivity
is
also
based
on
a
walkover
that
I
did
with
Ferris
gray
who's
a
Sagamore.
F
So
one
of
the
key
reasons
why
I'm
looking
at
Sprague
Pond
as
a
place
of
sensitivity,
regardless
of
what's
planned
for
it
or
who
owns
it?
It's
the
topography
itself,
I'm
going
to
speak
mostly
about
the
southern
end
of
the
property,
where
there's
a
significant
topographic
high
that
overlooks
the
entirety
of
Sprague
Pond.
Some
of
the
other
landscape
features
that
you
see
further
to
the
north
of
the
property
I
believe
is
actually
related
to
an
ice
manufacturing
company
or
ice
cutting
company.
F
That
I'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
later,
but
that
topographic
high
is
one
of
those
high
and
dry
locations.
It
also
is
very
close
to
the
Shoreline.
We
don't
typically
have
kind
of
topography
that
overlooks
water
in
Boston,
because
our
Shoreline
tends
to
be
right
up
against
the
ocean
or
right
up
against
rivers,
and
ponds
are
remarkably
rare
in
Boston,
as
both
Paul
and
Aldo
mentioned.
This
is
one
of
only
three
that
I
believe
exist
remaining
natural
ponds
in
Boston,
including
cow
Pond
out
in
West,
Roxbury
and
Jamaica
pond.
F
So
this
is
another
view
from
the
property
looking
due
east,
the
the
landscape
or
the
vegetation
didn't
terribly
help
me
in
this
process.
But
what
I'm
trying
to
get
across
is
the
the
view
of
Great
Blue
Hill
from
the
shoreline
of
of
Sprague
Pond,
but
also
kind
of
the
slope
that
leads
down
to
the
western
shore
of
Sprague
Pond.
This
is
a
better
image
that
shows
the
relative
topography
and
other
proximity
of
the
site
to
significant
places
to
the
Massachusetts
people.
F
So
the
Massachusetts
today
are
the
Massachusetts
of
Ponca
POG,
but
they
began
their
existence
as
the
Neponset
band
of
the
Massachusetts,
where
their
traditional
homelands
were
in
Boston,
and
this
in
surrounding
the
neponse
of
watershed.
When
the
king
Phillips
War
began
and
the
tribe
was
relocated,
they
were
relocated
to
Ponca
POG
in
in
Canton,
which
is
on
the
southern.
The
southern
large
pond
south
of
the
Blue
Hills
here
on
this
image.
This
site
in
particular,
is
located
due
west
of
the
Neponset
River,
which
has
been
significant
to
the
to
the
Massachusetts
for
their
entire
existence.
F
But
it
also
has
an
important
view
due
east
at
the
Rising
Sun
and
great
blue
hill,
and
the
Blue
Hills
themselves
are:
are
religiously
significant
and
ceremonially
significant
to
the
Massachusetts
as
their
language
translates
to
the
people
of
the
Blue
Hills.
So
this
is
a
very
significant
landscape
feature
very
significant
proximity
and
also
a
very
significant
view,
shed
all
increasing
the
chances
of
there
being
both
a
native
site
on
the
property
and
potentially
a
ceremonially
significant
site
on
the
property.
F
Other
sites
that
are
found
in
the
area.
I
can't
release
a
map
of
where
these
are
located,
but
I
can
describe
them.
The
the
actual
map,
the
official
state
maps
of
where
archaeological
sites
are
there's
a
significantly
large
site.
That
usually
indicates
that
we're
not
exactly
sure
where
it
was
that
places
the
actual
location
of
this
property
within
the
boundaries
of
the
manor
site
or
the
DS
site,
which
is
also
known
as
19nf42.
F
So
this
is
currently
technically
within
the
boundaries
of
an
existing
site,
but
we
don't
know
the
exact
boundaries
of
that
site,
so
it
may
may
or
may
not
be
part
of
the
matter
site.
It's
also
within
a
kilometer
of
several
important
sites
that
we
already
know
about,
including
the
multiple
resource
National
register
district
for
the
Blue
Hills
in
Canton,
which
is
the
location
of
the
Massachusetts
hornfells,
the
Braintree
slate
and
the
Blue
Hills
rhyolite
quarries,
which
were
the
source
of
the
Massachusetts,
but
the
main
source
of
the
Massachusetts
Stone
tool.
Materials
in.
F
In
addition
to
the
matapan
Quarry,
which
is
in
Babs
and
cooks
and
tracked
in
Mattapan,
there's
also
the
cape
in
School
site
in
the
department
of
bridge
site,
these
are
all
within
a
kilometer
of
the
the
property
that
we're
talking
about
and,
as
I
said
earlier,
the
sensitivity
of
a
site
also
is
based
on
how
close
it
is
to
other
known
sites,
and
this
is
a
relatively
dense
area
of
archaeological
sites.
It's
also
a
relatively
unsurveyed
area.
F
So
the
fact
that
we
already
have
have
this
number
of
sites
in
an
area
that
really
hasn't
been
looked
at
archaeologically.
That
much
really
indicates
that
this
is
a
pretty
heavily
heavily
used
area
and
an
important
area
to
the
Massachusetts,
mostly
because
of
the
view
shed
and
the
proximity
to
the
neponsa
in
nearby
rivers
and
it
being
one
of
the
few
natural
ponds
in
the
landscape.
F
So
in
1831
we
have
a
map
showing
Sprague
pond
in
the
Neponset
River
down
to
the
lower
part.
North
is
to
the
right
in
this
image.
Sorry,
I
didn't
have
a
chance
to
spin
everything
around,
but
we're
essentially
looking
here
at
the
arrow
on
the
west
side
of
Sprague
Pond,
showing
a
relative
lack
of
development
in
1831.
This
is
important
not
for
historical
reasons,
but
to
show
that
it's
good.
It
has
a
good
likelihood
that
by
the
1831,
relatively
little
had
happened
to
the
Western
Shoreline
of
Sprague
Pond
to
potentially
disturb
earlier
sites.
F
So
this
is
important
for
the
con
for
the
Integrity
of
the
site.
Overall,
by
1851
you
can
see
again
there's
been
relatively
little
development.
We
have
the
building
of
Sprague
Street.
We
have
a
couple
of
properties,
Sprague
Place
Alden
house
and
a
couple
of
Roads
developing
Northwest
of
the
site
and,
of
course,
the
railroad
that
went
through
a
portion
of
the
pond
kind
of
cutting
off
the
Eastern
side
of
the
pond,
and
that
railroad
is
still
present
today
and
again,
the
Neponset
River
on
the
right
and
then,
of
course,
by
the
Civil
War.
F
We
have
camp
migs.
This
is
a
reconstruction
map
from
the
20th
century
of
where
things
were
located
in
Camp
Vegas.
It's
always
a
question
as
to
whether
or
not
the
reconstructed
maps
are
accurate
or
less
accurate,
more
accurate
or
less
accurate
than
the
period
Maps,
but
you'll
see
that
they
both
relatively
agree
with
each
other.
You
can
see
on
this
property
on
this
map.
F
The
Sprague
Street,
which
is
still
located
in
its
current
location,
is
immediately,
and
the
property
itself
is
immediately
across
the
street,
from
the
barracks
related
to
the
20th
century,
I'm,
sorry
to
the
camp
migs
actual
the
camp
itself.
That
means
that
this
place
would
have
been
potentially
an
area
for
mustering
where
people
would
actually
be
able
to
stand
and
gather,
but
also
a
place
of
potential
Recreation
for
the
troops
that
were
coming
to
coming,
to
Camp
mix,
being
a
freshwater,
Pond
adjacent
to
barracks
and
with
lacking
running
water
at
the
time.
F
This
is
that
same
map
overlaid
on
top
of
an
existing
aerial
photograph
of
the
site,
and
what
I
wanted
to
show
here
was
a
couple
of
things:
one,
the
relative
proximity
of
the
important
Camp,
Meigs,
barracks
and
other
infrastructure,
but
also
the
large
amount
of
development
that
has
happened
within
the
camp.
The
reality
is
that,
though
this
is
a
relatively
small
piece
of
property.
I
think
it's
about
an
acre.
F
This
may
be
one
of
our
few
chances
left
to
have
any
piece
of
undeveloped.
Camp
Meigs
remain,
and
it's
and
it's
essentially
undeveloped,
Natural
State,
as
it
would
have
been
open
space
during
the
1860s
and
1850s,
he's
a
bit
more
of
an
accurately
drawn
map
that
shows
some
of
the
varieties
of
structures
of
of
Sprague
Pond
itself,
including
the
river
that
cut
through
it.
Really
the
only
the
lower
left
kind
of
lobe
of
Sprague
Pond
still
exists
today.
This
also
shows
another
additional
component
of
the
of
the
camp.
F
That
is
sorry
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
see,
but
these
are
Stables
just
to
the
left.
Southwest
of
the
of
the
shoreline
of
Camp
maze
more
or
less
abutting.
This
property
Stables
would
have
been
for
the
horses
associated
with
the
camp
itself
and
again,
the
barracks
are
located
across
break
Pond
today
kind
of
in
an
industrial
area.
So
this
is
really
kind
of
a
Crossroads
between
multiple
spaces
in
the
in
the
camp
itself
and
with
Barracks,
stables
and
hospitals
located
essentially
on
either
side
of
the
pond.
F
This
would
have
been
really
a
Crossroads
and
a
heavily
traveled
area
along
Sprague,
Street
up
to
Reidville
station
and
then
back
down
into
to
into
the
camp.
In
the
Open
Water
areas
surrounding
Sprague
Pond,
especially
this
area,
which
would
have
been
the
largest
and
deepest
part
of
the
pond,
would
have
been
critical
for
the
recreational
and
leisure
activities
of
the
of
the
troops
that
were
stationed
in
Camp
mix.
Oh
here
we
go.
F
This
is
a
close-up
version
of
the
property
showing
the
closeness
of
the
Stables
relative
to
relative
to
the
property
today,
which
is
just
North
of
the
Staples
line.
So
I
didn't
put
an
outline
there
later
on
in
the
1900s,
we
have
very
little
development.
The
property
was
divided
up
into
four
Lots.
You
can
see
the
outline
of
the
current
property
in
blue
and
you
can
see
that
the
southern
Lots
were
never
developed.
As
far
as
I
can
tell.
F
However,
there
was
a
significant
building
on
the
Northern
end
of
the
property,
which
is
today
the
main
entrance
area
of
the
property.
Here,
it's
labeled
in
kind
of
Exmark
buildings,
which
is
often
kind
of
an
outbuilding
or
kind
of
supplementary
building
to
a
main
structure.
In
this
case,
it's
likely
associated
with
chart
well,
not
likely
it
is
associated
with
Charles
Davenport.
We
can
see
him
as
the
owner
or
the
Davenport
family
as
the
owner.
F
This
is
a
historic
document
from
my
screen's
partially
covered
January
190,
something
by
Charles
E
dab,
import
of
Hyde
Park
he's
an
ice
dealer
he's
built
an
ice
house
on
Sprague
pond
in
Reedville,
which
will
hold
4
000
tons
of
ice,
and
it's
installed
runs
chains
and
scrapers
there
and
ready
Readiness
for
harvesting.
He
has
bought
his
ice
during
the
past
few
years.
F
Doing
during
my
walk
over
with
fares
from
the
Massachusetts
tribe
last
year,
around
this
time,
I
did
identify
one
surviving
archaeological
feature,
which
is
this
stone
wall.
It's
really
hard
to
make
out
in
this
image,
so
I
put
a
little
kind
of
visual
outline.
This
is
the
the
edges
of
a
stone
foundation
located
at
the
Northern
end
of
the
property.
F
I
believe
that
this
is
this
is
portions
of
the
Ice
House,
possibly
the
area
that
you
would
drive
up
to
with
carts,
and
then
the
area,
essentially
where
I'm,
just
where
I'm
photographing
and
looking
at
this
structure,
would
have
been
the
area
where
the
ice
was
dragged
up
underneath
the
building
or
into
the
building.
So
there's
there's
really
three
components
of
this
site.
F
We
have
the
potential
native
archaeological
site,
we
have
the
camp,
migs,
historic
archaeological
site
and
then
also
the
Ice
House
archaeological
site,
all
of
which
are
at
least
the
first,
who
are
definitely
potentially
significant,
and
the
Ice
House,
fortunately,
is
on
one
end
of
the
property,
leaving
the
majority
of
the
property
undeveloped.
So
I
don't
expect
that
this
would
have
Disturbed
the
site
heavily
so
for
archaeological
sensitivity.
Basically,
it's
sensitive
for
those
three
properties
that
I
just
talked
about.
There
is
no
current
protections
for
the
property,
there's
no
Landmark
status
or
state
triggers
for
it.
F
If
it's
owned
by
the
city,
which
then
we
could
then
work
toward
towards
committing
to
both
the
tribes
of
54th
descendants
and
the
community
on
creating
a
park
that
is
designed
with
archeology
in
mind
and
approach
the
site,
essentially
asking
the
community,
which,
in
this
case
is
the
community
is
defined
as
the
the
neighbors,
the
folks
that
use
this
place,
the
Massachusetts
tribe
and
the
descendants
of
the
54th.
What
questions
do
they
have
about
the
property?
F
Do
we
proactively
survey
the
property
before
anything
happens
just
to
get
a
baseline
understanding
of
what's
there
or
is
the
recommendation
to
actually
leave
the
site,
undeveloped
or
untouched
archaeologically
until
there's
a
develop
until
there's
a
plan
for
what
the
park
should
look
like,
whether
it
be
seating
or
Pathways,
and
only
dig
in
those
areas
that
are
potentially
going
to
be
disturbed
by
the
pathways
and
the
reason
why
that's
insignificant
I'm
going
to
back
up
just
a
little
bit
here?
Sorry,
everybody
I.
F
It's
not
by
any
means
a
definite,
but
it's
a
potential
location
for
burials.
So
that's
something
that
if
there's
a
potential
for
that,
then
the
question
becomes:
should
any
archeology
even
be
considered,
or
should
the
goal
be
to
leave
that
completely
untouched,
because
it
could
be
so
significantly
significant,
culturally
that
it
should
be
left
undeveloped,
undug
and
essentially
preserved
in
place
for
ceremonial
use
and
for
Passive
Recreation.
C
Yes,
one
more
thing-
and
that
is
you
know:
we've
talked
about
the
value
of
the
land
and
such,
but
in
terms
of
the
Public's
interest
and
so
to
obtain
this
land.
We're
going
to
be
using
the
process
of
eminent
domain
and
eminent
domain
involves
just
compensation
for
the
property
owner,
and
so
what
we've
done
is
proceed
according
to
mgl
chapter
79,
that's
the
state
law
regarding
eminent
domain,
and
that
requires
that
we
pay
a
fair
market
value
via
as
determined
by
an
appraisal.
C
So
what
we've
done
is
obtain
two
appraisals
in
order
to
make
sure
that
we,
you
know,
get
a
pretty
good
read
on
what
the
fair
market
value
is
and
what
I
want
to
mention
about
fair
market
value.
Is
this
the
there's
fair
market
value
is
most
of
us
understand
and
then
in
the
eminent
domain
context,
it's
actually
slightly
different.
What
that
means
is
in
in
the
market
there's
a
whole
range
of
values.
C
As
we
know,
when
you
go
out
to
buy
a
car,
you
can
sometimes
get
a
really
great
price.
Sometimes
you
know
you're,
you
know
a
billionaire
and
you
don't
care
and
sorry
and
so
you'll
pay
that
really
you
know
high
price
and
then
most
people
try
to
get.
You
know
end
up
getting
somewhere
in
the
middle,
because
you
know
the
auto
dealer
wants
some
decent
return,
Etc,
so
there's
somewhere
in
the
middle
of
that
range.
C
That's
the
typical
market
value
that
appraisers
normally
look
for,
but
in
the
Enviro
eminent
domain
context,
it's
that
highest
value
they're
looking
for
that
one,
and
so
in
this
context,
with
the
two
appraisals
that
we've
done
and
we've
done
an
analysis
of
both
of
them
and
both
in
terms
of
the
accuracy
Etc
of
the
competence
and
so
on
of
the
two
appraisals,
the
plus
it
just
seems
to
make
more
sense.
If
we're
trying
to
achieve
this
higher
value.
C
The
appraisal
that
has
the
higher
number
was
the
one
that
was
chosen
and
in
this
instance,
that
number
is
nine
hundred
forty
thousand
dollars.
So
we're
the
vote
for
the
that
the
park
commission
will
consider
later
on.
That
motion
will
state
that
value
in
the
in
the
vote.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear
for
everybody
that
is
substantially
less
than
the
amount
that
the
owners
paid.
C
It
was.
The
indeed
shows
that
they
paid
325
000,
but
given
what
the
what
the
market?
Actually
you
know
says
that
we,
you
know,
need
to
consider
Etc
the
potential
here:
the
limitations
of
zoning,
which
allows
only
three
units
to
be
developed
here
again
per
the
neighborhood
strategic
plan.
This
was
determined
to
be
a
highly
sensitive
area
and
therefore,
while
the
recommended
Parkland
acquisition
here-
oh
this
neighbor,
this
plan
by
our
planning
agency
cannot
say
you
know
this
has
to
be
a
park.
C
They
have
to
allow
for
private
development.
However,
it
was
zones,
conservation,
protection
sub-district
to
try
to
the
extent
possible
limit
development
on
it
and
was
limited
to
three
units
and
the
Royals
developments
sticks
to
that.
You
know
that
zoning
limitation
so
yeah
and
that's
it
so
at
this
point
you
know,
commissioner
Woods,
you
know
I
hand
it
off
to
you.
C
A
A
C
H
I
K
L
Pretty
much
the
same
here
being
very,
very
close
to
kind
of
the
54th
and
what's
happened
in
Boston
I.
Just
think
this
is
on
winning
it's
pretty
amazing,
but
then
another
thing
I
just
just
want
to
make
sure
when
we
do
things
on
eminent
domain,
that
we're
making
sure
we're
dries
and
and
crossing
the
t's
in
terms
of
fairness,
but
I
appreciate
all
the
work.
That's
gone
into
this
and
I
want
to
thank
you
publicly
for
everyone
involved.
A
G
M
Great
good
morning,
everyone
thank
you
for
this
presentation
for
those
who
have
been
following
this
particular
imminent
domain.
Taking
I've
probably
heard
my
voice
speak
about
this,
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
just
capture
some
snapshots
and,
first
and
foremost,
let
me
I'm
Helena
Tung
I've
lived
in
High
Park
since
1974
and
I'm.
Currently,
the
president
of
belnell
family
neighborhood
association
in
Hyde,
Park
I,
just
wanted
to
put
in
a
couple
of
key
points
that
I've
put
into
all
of
these
public
hearings
in
and
around
this.
M
These
particular
parcels,
and
that
is,
we
do
have
a
city
process
for
the
development
of
properties
on
Parcels,
which
you
know
requires
a
Butters
meetings
which
requires
bpda
bpda
review
and
approval,
maybe
Conservation
Commission
and,
if
necessary,
Amiga
review.
All
of
these
have
been
passed
in
flying
college
for
the
developers
that
had
potentially
wanted
to
develop
this
land
for
a
family,
in
particular
an
African-American
family.
M
So
this
matter
this
these
Parcels,
so
you
have
all
the
complete
information
and
that
we
decide
if
we're
going
to
go
through
this
process,
we
should
go
through
it,
but
the
previous
process
that
the
owners
who
have
purchased
this
property
a
Butters
meeting
past
that
with
flying
colors
bpda,
passed
out
with
fine
colors
Conservation
Commission
passed
out
with
flying
colors.
What
put
in
a
request
for
a
meepa
review,
not
required.
So
at
what
point
do
we
determine
this
process?
M
K
N
K
N
Yup,
can
you
hear
me
yep?
Okay,
hi,
my
name
is
I'm
I've
been
a
Hyde
Park
resident
for
27
years
I'm,
the
assistant
director
of
the
Southwest
Boston
Community,
Development,
Corporation
and
I'm
in
charge
of
our
green
initiatives.
Program
I
am
urging
the
Parks
Commission
to
approve
the
taking
of
the
Lakeside
Parcels
on
Sprague
Pond
and
to
approve
Southwest
Boston
cdc's.
Holding
of
the
conservation
restriction
for
the
site.
I
mean,
it's
all
been
said.
The
the
research
and
the
historical
and
archaeological
issues
have
been
explained
very
clearly.
N
N
The
Lakeside
Parcels
provide
the
only
remaining
access
to
Sprague
pond
and
my
understanding
and
the
state
department.
Environmental
under
protection
has
declared
this
as
a
great
Pond.
This
is
a
huge,
a
huge
event
and
it
is
State
policy
that
there
should
be
access
to
Great
ponds.
We
all
know
Jamaica
Pond,
how
cherished
that
is.
How
used
that
has
been
for
for
so
very
long
and
will
continue
to
be?
For
all
these
reasons,
the
Lakeside
Parcels
need
to
be
taken,
but
the
owners
of
this
property
need
to
be
paid.
N
Fair
market
value
and
I
know
the
parks
is
going
to
do
that
and
it
must
be
done
once
the
city
takes
ownership.
Southwest
Boston
CDC
is
prepared
to
hold
the
conservation
restriction
working
closely
with
the
Parks
Department
to
care
for
the
site,
to
report
on
its
condition
every
year
and
to
report
any
inappropriate
activity
so
that
we
make
sure
that
it
remains
a
healthy
and
beautiful
place
that
people
can
come
and
enjoy
the
pond
enjoy.
The
Green
Space
enjoy
the
view
of
the
Blue
Hills.
N
The
Southwest
Boston
CDC
has
run
our
youth
jobs
and
environmental
stewardship
program
in
partnership
with
the
parks
department
for
the
last
14
years,
we've
hired
youth
from
around
Boston,
but
primarily
Hyde
Park,
Roslindale,
Mattapan
and
Dorchester
to
restore
conservation
land
in
our
environmental
justice,
community
and
they're,
taking
responsibility
for
caring
for
this
land
and
watching
over
it.
Learning
about
its
history
would
be
an
incredible
opportunity
for
them
extremely
motivating
for
them,
so
I
would
be
honored
to
be
able
to
hold
the
conservation
restriction
and
have
our
youth
play
a
role
in
that.
N
K
O
P
Hello,
yes,
this
is
Ian
cook
I
am
the
executive
director
of
the
Neponset
River
Watershed,
Association
and
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
express
our
strong
support
for
the
city,
proceeding
with
this
application
without
belaboring
the
the
really
robust
presentation
we
saw.
You
know
this
property
really
has
everything
in
terms
of
what
you
would
want
and
a
piece
of
land
worthy
of
public
protection.
You
know
it's
ecologically
significant
as
the
entity
that
nominated
the
Palmetto
and
Neponset
River
acec
many
years
ago.
P
You
know
proactively,
acquired
this
property
many
years
ago,
but
I'd
observe-
and
this
is
not
unique
to
the
city
of
Boston.
All
across
the
Watershed
communities
have
many
valuable
properties
on
their
open
space
acquisition
plans
that
land
languish
there
for
years
and
years
until
somebody
comes
along
and
actually
proposes
to
develop
them,
and
you
know
suddenly,
with
with
all
other
options
off
the
table,
important
Acquisitions
can
can
be
accomplished.
You
know
so
well
would
be
great
if
this
had
been
acquired
proactively
many
years
ago.
P
Q
It
requires
a
contiguous
acre
in
order
to
have
those
three
units
put
on
there
according
to
the
conservation,
Protection
District,
quite
a
continuous
acre.
However,
in
reality
there
is
a
a
caught
path
since
since
historic
colonial
days
to
actually
bisects
those
two
parcels
and
it's
owned
by
the
city.
So
the
the
zoning
board
was
never
informed
of
the
city-owned
parcel
that
goes
from
the
top
of
the
slope
straight
down
to
the
pond.
They
presented
it
as.
M
Q
Abunding
parcels
that
when
combined
could
make
an
acre-
but
indeed
you
couldn't
combine
them
because
there
was
a
city-owned
parcel
again
that
goes
from
the
top
of
the
slope
right
down
to
the
bottom.
That
was
never
presented
by
the
proponents
to
the
zoning
board.
So
indeed,
when
you,
when
you're,
determining
fair
market
value,
it's
not
allowed
to
have
three
condo
units
built
there,
because
there
is
a
city-owned
parcel
that
swath
of
land
that
bisects
those
two
parcels,
though
it's
not
when
you're
consuming
fair
market
value.
Q
You
can't
consider
that
the
three
condos
as
proposed
could
have
gone
there.
No,
they
couldn't
and
that
hasn't
been,
that
hasn't
been
Illustrated
down
to
the
city
hall
enough
I've
tried
my
best,
but
I
I
want
that
to
be
on
the
record
and
I
indeed,
because
of
that
perhaps,
although
I
want
this
acquired,
perhaps
is
all
that
was
referring
to
the
law
was
saying:
let's
go
to
the
higher
end
value,
I'm
thinking
more
to
the
middle
I.
Q
Q
A
A
K
A
R
How
are
you
doing
sorry
about
that?
I'm
new
with
this
I
bought
the
property
and
I
just
want
to
say.
I've
said
this
before
that
several
years
ago
I
mean
maybe
about
20
years
ago,
I
was
interested
in
probably
from
Mr
Homer
himself
and
I
went
down
to
City
Hall
in
Boston
and
I
quiet
about
the
property
and
he
I
said
I
want
to
buy
a
whole.
R
You
know
building
of
the
home
for
children
and
future,
as
the
other
gentleman
wanted
to,
and
they
flatly
said,
no,
it's
undevelopable
land,
and
that
was
the
end
of
it.
He
said
I'd
be
buying
just
a
piece
of
profit,
so
I,
let
that
go
in
15
years.
I
went
down
again
to
do
the
Homestead
Act
on
my
house,
because
I
paid
for
it
and
I
asked
her
quite
about
the
property
again
and
they
told
me
looked
up
the
records.
No,
it's
undevelopable
land
I
cannot
business
all
residential
land.
R
That
was
the
end
of
it.
So
I
forgot
it
then,
all
of
a
sudden,
several
on
several
years
later,
real
estate
agents
not
coming
around
employment,
people
and
I
believe
I
know
one
of
the
people
wanted
to
buy
it
at
the
time.
I
ran
into
them
and
they
said
it'd
be
a
useless
piece
of
land
to
buy
so
I
was
shocked
when
these
other
gentleman
came
up
and
said
they're
going
to
build
three
condos
here,
and
it
just
threw
me
off.
I
just
didn't
understand
this.
R
Where
this
came
from
and
I
I
think
it's
a
nice
place,
I
used
to
I
went
down
there.
Everyone
does
go
fishing
and
stuff
like
that
and
I
clean
it
up
and,
of
course,
more
and
more
you
learn
into
it.
You
do
find
out
there's
a
lot
of
history,
especially
Civil
War
I
like
and
that's
about
all
I
have
to
say,
but
thank
you
very
very
much
for
your
time
and
the
effort
to
acquire
this
at
least
for
a
practice.
R
S
S
We
don't
need
to
recount
the
many
compelling
solemn
reasons
that
the
site
is
worthy
of
protection
of
the
historic
cultural
and
natural
resource
values
have
been
fully
set
out
in
the
mayor's
transmittal
letter
in
the
staff.
Presentations
acquisition
of
the
land
is
a
40-year
positive
fulfillment
of
neighborhood-based
priorities
achieved
through
collaboration
with
the
city
and
state
for
which
we
are
grateful.
S
S
We
really
respect
their
entrepreneurial
goals
and
during
this
process
there
were
several
strongly
argued
moments
and
Mr
Gregory
and
Mr
Brown
I
apologize
to
them
by
letter,
but
also
would
like
to
do
so
here
through
on
the
call
for
any
offense
or
aggravation.
During
this
time,
the
development
group
was
fulfilling
its
business
objectives
and
standing
up
for
their
private
property
rights,
which
are
really
Bedrock
principles.
They
must
be
available
to
all.
S
T
I'm
George
Brown
I'm,
a
member
of
the
54th
Mass
Regiment
Company,
a
and
I'm
calling
about
a
letter.
We
sent
February
25th
2022
to
mariama
white
Hammond,
chief
of
Office
of
Environmental
and
open
space,
and
we
are
in
support
of
what
you're
doing
and
it
reads
briefly
the
parcel
a
part
of
Camp
Meeks,
which
was
the
training
ground
of
the
Civil
War
era.
K
A
K
U
U
Preserving
this
history
for
the
current
generations
and
future
generations
to
know
and
be
aware
of,
is
there
then
I
don't
know
a
counter
or
or
a
response
from
the
developers
that
they
would
consider
as
a
part
of
the
development
and
I
don't
know
in
any
way
how
this
would
work,
but
would
they
consider
some
effort
to
acknowledge
the
history,
acknowledge
and
we're
dealing
with
African-American
history
and,
as
I
always
say
as
a
member
of
the
54th?
It's
it's
really
world's
history.
It's
human
history.
U
Our
story
is
not
limited
to
black
people,
but
respecting
that,
but
then
also
respecting
our
indigenous
brothers
and
sisters
who
care
for
this
land.
Thousands
thousands
of
years
before
we
got
here
so
respecting
their
wishes
and
desires
for
for
their
property,
their
land
and
I
know
they.
They
have
different
views
on
ownership
of
land
than
we
do,
but
but
trying
to
be
respectful
as
I
can
about
that.
U
U
A
K
J
Q
J
J
There
are
lots
of
things
that
have
emerged
in
this
process
that
I'm
not
going
to
sugarcoat
and
say,
are
not
there.
However,
from
my
perspective
and
I
want
to
also
State,
there
have
been
assertions
that
this
was
about
a
property
for
one
family,
but
then
it's
been
also
asserted.
This
is
about
three
condos
and
that
assertion
that
this
was
about
a
single
family.
Looking
for
a
place
for
themselves
to
live,
has
not
also
held
up
in
what
I
have
read
through
the
documents
so
on
all
sides.
J
I
want
to
mean
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
feel
like
the
public
access
to
this
water
and
again
we
are
not
talking
swimming
now,
but
I
do
want
to
think
about
whether
or
not
that's
a
possibility
as
down
the
line.
We
have
a
number
of
communities
where
heat
the
heat
from
climate
change
is
causing
it
to
be
insufferable
for
folks
to
get
through
the
summer
and
the
possibility
the
possibility
of
having
access
to
this
space
feels
like
one.
We
should
definitely
pursue.
J
Secondly,
I
think
the
question
that
was
raised
by
the
last
gentleman
about
the
whether
or
not
this
could
be
negotiated
I
did
take
an
opportunity
to
go
see
the
site.
It's
not
a
lot
of
land
to
to
both
try
to
negotiate
protecting
the
archeology,
protecting
the
historical
record
and
actually
giving
people
access
to
the
water
were
the
site
larger.
J
Just
I
I
looked
at
the
amount
of
space
and
just
couldn't
see
how
we
would
negotiate
all
of
those
different
uses
in
the
amount
of
space
that
exists,
but
I
think
there
are
two
things
that
I
want
to
commit
to
from
the
parks
department
going
forward.
That
I
think
will
support
this
potentially
not
happening
in
this
way
going
forward.
So
one
we
are
really
leaning
into
this
conversation
about
parcel
prioritization,
making
sure
that
what
we
are
looking
at
is
more
accessible
and
and
transparent
to
the
public.
J
We
are
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
are
crystal
clear,
Where,
We,
Are,
looking
to
acquire
land
what
we
will
push
back
on
if
it's
developed,
so
that,
at
least
when
people
walk
into
these
processes,
they
walk
in
eyes
wide
open.
This
is
not
the
only
parcel
that
is
in
a
similar
position
where
it's
been
marked
as
undevelopable,
but
people
have
purchased
the
land
working
from
the
assumption
that
that
could
be
changed.
B
J
I
want
to
shout
out
Liza
Meyer
and
her
team
that
worked
hard
on
that,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
clear
and
aware.
We
are
also
in
conversation
with
the
bpda
about
again
be
much
clearer
about
this,
so
that
people
don't
walk
in
with
one
impression,
spend
years
and
significant
amount
of
time
and
then
find
themselves
in
the
place
that
we
are
at
this
point.
J
So
I
I
hear
those
concerns.
I
hope
that
we
are
doing
things,
that's
going
that
are
going
to
improve
the
process
in
the
future,
and
once
construction
were
to
happen
on
this
land,
the
pieces
that
have
been
described
would
probably
be
irrevocably
damaged
in
a
way.
I
couldn't
see
how
we
could
hold
both
things
at
the
same
time
and
that's
the
challenge.
J
However,
I
do
think,
as
as
Aldo
stated
and
as
I
clearly
support.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
paying
fair
market
value
not
only
just
because
of
the
land,
but
because
there
were
significant
time
and
energy
invested
with
one
impression,
and
then
that
was
changed.
I
think
that
that
should
be
part
of
why
we
lean
towards
a
higher
value.
J
As
the
previous
gentleman
said,
I
think
there
were
some
challenges
around
really
actually
being
able
to
fit
three
units
on
there,
and
there
were
assertions
that
it
was
about
a
family,
but
then
it
was
about
it
so
nonetheless,
I
think
paying
the
fair
market
value
honors.
The
fact
that
this
was
a
very
long
process
and
we
could
have
been
more
upfront
and
transparent
at
the
very
beginning.
It
will
be
also
said.
J
We
haven't
always
had
the
resources
to
act
on
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
do,
and
now
we
do
so
I
think
in
the
future.
We
will
be
able
to
be
clear
and
transparent
at
the
front
side
of
things
so
that
we
don't
find
ourselves
in
these
positions
where
people
do
feel
like
they've
invested
time.
That
is
not
fully
honored.
J
So
those
are
my
statements
and
I
again.
I
do
want
to
be
clear.
We
are
going
to
be
looking
to
acquire
more
land
that
there's
a
lot
of
significant
level
of
increased
development
in
the
city,
and
we
need
the
open
space
to
match
that
they're
going
to
be
people
living
here.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
they
have
access,
especially
when
more
and
more
of
those
buildings
are
being
built
without
backyards.
Q
I
I
just
want
to
thank
the
chief
for
her
leadership
and
guidance
on
this.
That
was
also
very
insightful.
It
seems
like
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
in
support
of
this
effort.
Were
you
know,
either
through
their
own
efforts
or
the
efforts
of
others,
made
aware
of
today's
hearing
I'm,
not
seeing
any
representation
of
the
property
owners
themselves
I
wish
they
would
have.
C
I
I
A
Q
T
A
A
A
A
And
one
eight
one:
two:
nine:
nine:
nine:
zero,
zero
zero
and
the
Suffolk
County
Register
of
Deeds
book
six,
seven,
two
four
eight
page
226.
the
land
area
is
more
or
less
51
545
square
feet.
The
interest
taken
is
fee
simple,
the
supposed
owners
are
Lakeside
development,
Partners
LLC
and
the
amount
is
nine
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
and
further
voted.
A
A
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
their
time,
and
patience
going
through
this
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
again,
although
Darin
for
his
work
on
this
and
research
and
his
upcoming
retirement
in
the
next
week,
or
so
with
numerous
Decades
of
service
to
the
city
of
Boston
Park
department.
So
congratulations,
Aldo
and
again,
thank
you
for
your
work
on
this
and
all
the
other
projects.
You've
worked
through
the
decades
here
at
the
Boston
Parks
Department.