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Description
Ryan Playground - Charlestown Design Meeting #3 - March 15, 2022
A
A
Welcome
to
tonight's
meeting,
we
are
recording
this
meeting
so
that
we
can
record
we
can
post
it
on
our
website
and
people
who
can't
make
it
can
watch
it
and
participate
in
that
way.
This
is
our
assuming
we're
going
in
the
right
direction.
This
is
our
third
and
final
community
meeting
for
the
design
of
ryan
playground
in
charlestown,
my
name
is
b
chatfield,
I'm
the
project
manager
and
I'm
here
with
weston
sampson
and
our
outreach
coordinator
from
parks
christine
brando,
and
thank
you
for
attending
and
welcome.
A
Here's
some
zoom
tips
during
the
presentation,
we're
going
to
ask
that
you
keep
your
questions
to
yourself.
You
can
either
type
them
in
the
chat
and
we
can
answer
them
as
we
go
if
they're
easy
sort
of
one-off
answers
sort
of
technical
questions,
otherwise
we
will
save
them
for
the
last
portion
of
the
meeting
when
we
have
it
more
open
format,
kind
of
a
conversation.
A
So
just
if
you
could
hold
on
to
your
questions
till
the
end,
that's
great.
We
can
have
the
conversation.
Then
the
next
slide
our
agenda
for
tonight
we're
going
to
do
sort
of
general
introductions
and
sort
of
overview
right
now,
and
then
we're
going
to
go
into
what
we
heard
at
meeting
two
and
the
following
survey:
sort
of
all
of
the
data
that
we're
working
with
the
existing
conditions
and
the
climate
resiliency,
which
is
one
of
the
major
reasons
why
we
are
doing
our
project,
the
preferred
site
plan.
A
This
is
the
moment
everyone's
been
waiting
for
to
see
the
design
that
our
consultants
have
pulled
together,
based
on
all
of
the
input
preferences,
data
information
that
we
have
and
then
we
are
eager
to
hear
what
you
guys.
Think
of
that
in
our
listening
and
discussion
section,
and
then
we
will
share
closing
remarks
and
next
steps
could
go
into
the
next
slide.
A
So
here's
our
project
team,
like
I
said
I
am
b
chatfield,
I'm
the
project
manager,
there's
my
contact
information
right
there
abigail.chatfield
and
my
direct
phone
number.
So
if
you
have
any
questions
or
want
to
make
any
comments
during
the
meeting
after
the
meeting,
just
that's
that's
my
information.
Please
give
me
all
your
thoughts.
We've
got
brandon
kunkel,
farah,
decock
and
gracie
villa
here
all
from
weston
sampson.
A
A
Here's
our
project
schedule.
We
had
our
first
community
meeting
back
in
september
and
then
we
proceeded
coordinating
with
the
sort
of
sullivan
square
design
group
that
was
a
meeting
with
hood
green
and
the
rutherford
avenue
project
and
ryan
playground,
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
overlaps
between
what
we're
doing
or
if
we
do
have
overlaps
with
our
programs
that
they
complement
each
other
and
not
just
mindless
replication.
A
Then,
in
december
we
had
our
second
community
meeting
very
helpful.
We
got
a
lot
of
good
direction
there,
and
here
we
are
at
our
third
meeting,
which
is
where
we're
showing
our
proposed
schematic
design,
assuming
we
are
good
to
go
and
that
we
are
responding
to
all
the
needs
that
we've
heard
we're
going
to
be
using
this
summer,
takes
about
six
months
to
go
into
complete,
permitting
processes
we're
here
at
a
coastal
site,
and
so
it's
a
little
bit
more
complex
than
just
your
standard
playground.
A
So
we
probably
don't
want
to
break
ground
in
like
december,
so
we
probably
hold
off
until
spring
2023
and
that's
when
the
phase
one
part
of
our
park,
which
is
the
majority
of
our
park,
but
phase
one
would
begin
so
next
slide.
Please
we
have
our
basic
graphic
here.
This
is
what
we
attempt
to
do
in
all
of
our
capital
projects.
We've
got
a
number
of
priorities,
we're
trying
to
balance.
A
B
B
B
We
also
asked
if
you
have
a
preference
between
grass
or
synthetic
turf
fields
for
those
who
have
attended
the
meeting.
You
know
that
we've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about
this
and,
in
our
survey,
told
us
that
the
majority
prefer
turf
but
are
open
to
grass
fields
for
leaks
that
require
it.
A
large
majority
also
did
not
have
a
preference
or
they
were
open
to
whatever
would
accommodate
the
most
sports
and
usage.
B
B
So
we
looked
through
all
of
the
sort
of
write-in
answers
that
people
gave
us,
and
these
were
sort
of
the
top
responses
for
each
of
those
individual
concepts,
the
first
being
prioritizing
harbor
views
and
the
second
was
adding
new
trees
to
the
site
and
the
third
was
adding
new
activities
like
pickleball
or
bocce,
and
then
in
terms
of
if
there
was
anything
that
they
didn't
see
across
all
three
of
those
concepts.
We
heard
that
people
were
interested
in
a
noise
barrier
from
alfred
street
and
then
more
space
for
other
activities.
C
C
Just
I
know
we're
all
very
familiar
with
the
park.
But
if
you
are
new
to
the
public
meetings
tonight,
thank
you
for
joining,
but
just
real,
quick,
so
we're
all
familiar
with
the
existing
ryan
playground,
as
it
sits
today
in
its
current
position
and
shape,
and
just
noting
that
the
future
proposed
extension.
C
Next
slide
a
quick
refresher
on
one
of
the
driving
goals
of
this
project
and
the
city's
thinking
and
foresight
on
climate
resilience
and
really
being
a
leader
across
the
nation
really
on
really
combating
climate
change
and
sea
level
rise.
As
we're
aware,
this
particular
part
of
charlestown
is
been
identified
as
a
susceptible
flood
pathway
moving
into
the
future,
and
this
is
really
the
city's
goal
of
using
ryan
in
leveraging
that
up
against
the
waterfront
to
help
combat
future
flooding
and
sea
level
rise
next
slide.
C
C
C
The
goal
is
to
to
do
the
park
limits
as
they
are
today,
so
you
won't
really
be
sacrificing
anything
when
it
comes
to
land
at
the
moment
and,
ultimately,
once
sullivan
square
comes
to
a
completion,
and
just
noting
that
they're,
starting
at
the
other
side
of
sullivan
square
and
moving
towards
everett
as
they
progress
through
their
project,
so
they're,
projecting,
plus
or
minus
20
27
right
now.
So
we
we
do
have
a
few
years
between
phase
one
and
phase
two
potentially
next
slide.
C
C
That's
perhaps
either
not
asphalt
or
concrete
along
the
water's
edge,
but
there
will
also
be
elevational
changes
so
that
you
can
get
closer
to
the
water.
So
if
we
start
down
to
flatly
side
gracie
and
you
will
be
entering
the
park
from
flatly
at
elevation,
22
so
you'll
be
coming
up
about
six
feet.
But
then
you'll
have
the
opportunity
to
transition
and
go
down
a
slight
ramp
system
or
stairs.
C
There
will
be
accessible
ramps
to
come
on
and
off
of
the
riverwalk
to
make
that
transition
from
the
athletic
field
elevation
up
to
the
riverwalk
elevation.
So
as
you
move
along
then
you'll
come
to
a
playground
area,
so
we'll
be
moving
the
playground
from
where
it
is
currently
to
the
water's
edge.
We
thought
this
was
a
really
great
opportunity
to
really
engage
that
portion
with
a
lot
of
activity
and
excitement
along
the
water
and,
what's
better
to
do
that
than
kids.
C
It
also
provides
parents
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
multitask
and
be
able
to
view
some
of
the
sports
fields
if
they
have
multiple
kids
with
them,
so
they'll
be
able
to
engage
the
playground
as
well
as
the
fields
at
the
same
time.
And
then,
ultimately,
you
move
beyond
the
playground.
As
you
come
towards
alfred
street-
and
there
would
be
again
another
elevated
overlook
area
where
you
can
sit
down,
have
a
cup
of
coffee
or
meet
someone,
and
really
it's
about.
C
Looking
back
towards
the
city,
you'll
see
that
the
tobin
bridge
in
the
background-
and
then
it's
also
too
serving
as
a
screen
of
the
existing
eversource
building,
that
they
have
we've
been
in
a
lot
of
conversations
with
eversource
specific
to
their
easements
and
utilities
that
run
through
ryan
and,
unfortunately,
there's
really
no
good
answer
or
cost
effective
answer
for
addressing
that.
Building.
That
building
has
to
pretty
much
stay
where
it
is
today
at
the
elevation,
so
we
aren't
able
to
actually
put
a
deck
over
the
building.
C
They
need
to
have
open
air
access
to
it.
They
also
need
to
be
able
to
get
a
vehicle
in
there
to
service
and
maintain
the
the
power
that
comes
into
that
building,
and
I'm
sure
you
folks
are
all
aware
just
much
more
than
we
are
this
service
that's
coming
across,
underneath
the
mystic
river
is
serving
all
of
charlestown
and
that's
why
it's
a
big
deal
to
attempt
to
move
it.
C
They
would
have
to
cut
the
power,
so
folks
would
be
out
of
power
for
periods
of
time,
not
that
that's
impossible,
but
from
a
financial
perspective
it
makes
it
really
really
challenging.
So
we're
going
to
do
everything
we
can
to
mitigate
the
views
of
that
and
screen
it
through
plantings
and
trees.
But
the
idea
is
that
you're
actually
sitting
above
it
and
so
you'll
look
over
it
and
you
won't
really
hopefully
observe
it
because
of
the
tree
plantings
out
of
there,
but
what
it
does.
C
Actually
it
offer
also
offers
the
opportunity
to
have
storage
for
you
folks
back
in
that
corner.
It
won't
be
so
visible
or
prevalent,
so
it
could
be
tucked
back.
It
becomes
more
of
a
storage
area
and
for
you
folks,
because
we
are
aware
that
square
footage
is
precious
at
this
site,
and
you
know
that
the
programs
that
you
all
support
require
equipment.
So
we
totally
understand
that
we
just
wanted
to
provide
you
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
keep
that
equipment
on
site.
C
So
what
we're
representing?
There
are
two
storage
trailers
similar
to
what
you
have
now.
The
connect
storage
boxes
full
size
8
by
eight
by
forty
and
there's
a
few
other
opportunities
that
we'll
walk
through.
That
also
will
provide
additional
storage
throughout
the
site.
So
that's
the
water's
edge
and
now
we'll
move
along
alfred
street
gracie
and
work
through
the
the
fields
area.
C
C
Each
of
the
dugouts
will
have
shade
canopies
for
protection
from
the
sun,
which
is
great,
and
these
will
all
have
state
of
the
art
led
sports
lights
that
are
very
efficient,
very
effective
on
their
cutoffs,
completely
dark
sky
compliant
modern
day
technology
easily
programmable.
It
can
all
be
done
from
a
phone.
Now
we
are,
we
do
have
the
ability
to
provide
pickleball
courts.
We
thought
that
was
a
nice
amenity
to
add
to
ryan.
It's
not
there
currently,
so
those
would
be
nestled
in
between
the
fields
and
then
you'll
have
a
natural
grass
little
league
field.
C
C
C
You
will
note
the
parking
has
gone
away,
and
this
goes
to
the
feedback
that
we
heard
in
meeting
number
two,
where
majority
of
the
users
are
walking
and
then
the
balance
of
the
users
about
majority
of
the
balance
of
the
users
are
parking
at
the
shraps
city
center.
So
there
will
still
be
a
few
parking
spaces
for
accessibility
and
service
vehicles.
C
We
are
gonna,
relocate
the
existing
street
hockey
roller
rink
to
better
and
really
what
that
allows
us
to
do
is
to
move
the
natural
turf
field
at
a
location
that
is
oriented
for
optimal
sun
orientation
and
nestle
that
closer
to
the
support
building.
That's
there
today,
as
well
as
the
press
box
area.
So
you
start
to
get
this
core
of
services,
and
you
know
areas
where
you
know
there's
gathering
spaces
the
facilities
are
closer
in
proximity
to
some
of
the
the
key
elements
and
then
along
alfred
street.
C
There
would
be
some
temporary
screen
vegetation
to
where
phase
two
will
ultimately
pick
up.
There's
been
some
conversations
and
comments
that
that
b
has
had
you
know.
If
we're
gonna
move
the
the
roller
rink,
can
we
provide
a
buffer
along
alfred
street
so
that
it
doesn't
feel
like
the
cars
are
just
rolling
on
by
it's
intended
to
be
temporary
and
what
we've
you
know
we
and
we'll
talk
about
that
in
a
minute.
What
does
a
temporary
screen
wall
really
look
like?
C
Why
not
be
proud
of
that
and
bring
bring
some
excitement
to
it?
So
there's
an
opportunity
here
where
you
know
you
can
really
make
an
announcement
to
the
folks
that
are
going
over
to
everett
and
somerville,
and
this
is
such
a
key
location
and
sort
of
a
gateway
into
charlestown.
So
we'll
talk
about
that
in
just
a
minute
as
we
work
through
some
of
these
precedent
images.
C
Coming
off
of
that,
a
more
prominent
shade
structure
to
really
make
a
nice
creative,
strong
statement
at
the
entrance
to
the
park
with
an
entry
plaza
at
the
front.
You
know:
there's
opportunities
for
a
nice
sign
wall
along
sullivan
square,
a
more
passive
lawn
area,
a
quieter
lawn
area,
further
away
from
the
active
recreation
fields,
and
then,
where
we
had
a
temporary
screen
wall
in
phase
one,
it
would
ultimately
become
a
seat
wall
for
the
bocce
courts
and
the
the
rink
and
sort
of
link
those
two
together.
C
So
so
that's
that's
the
phase
two
and,
as
I
mentioned,
that's
approximately
five
years
away,
but
the
idea
is
that,
as
phase
one
is
coming
online
that
it's
fully
functional,
it's
able
to
operate,
you
know
using
the
existing
curb
way,
alignments
you're,
not
giving
up
anything
that
you
don't
have
already
and
anything
that
is
in
phase
two
are
future
amenities
that
would
align
with
the
current
program.
That
would
be
added
in
phase
one
next
slide.
C
So
here's
here's
a
summary
and
if
you
can
read
the
text,
that's
great.
My
eyes
are
going
so
I'll,
try
my
best
but
here's
some
of
the
quick
takeaways
in
our
minds.
The
extensive
addition
of
tree
canopy,
great
great
views
of
the
mystic
and
then
additional
gathering
spaces
throughout
the
spark
throughout
the
park.
C
Little
little
nodes,
little
areas
where
opportunities
for
more
tables
and
benches
underneath
trees,
more
of
a
park-like
setting.
The
amenities
would
include-
and
some
of
the
stuff
is
in
phase
two
but
game
tables:
bocce
courts,
the
hockey
rink
the
playing
fields,
the
multi-purpose
field,
playground,
splash,
pad
batting
cages,
pickle
ball,
courts,
storage,
the
harbor,
walk,
slash,
riverwalk,
adult
fitness
and
fishing,
and
that's
a
great
reminder
on
the
adult
fitness
they're
hard
to
see.
C
But
there
are,
I
think,
there's
four
or
five
areas
where
there
would
be
fitness
equipment
throughout
the
pla
the
park.
So
you
could
literally
do
a
workout
circuit
using
the
pathways
jogging
along
the
water,
and
the
idea
is
to
really
provide
as
much
amenities
and
multi-generational
pieces
to
really
encourage
people
to
come
along.
C
Some
of
the
waterfront
experiences
would
obviously
be
the
views.
It
will
be
a
a
combination
of
hard
edges
and
soft
edges
and
we'll
explain
that
a
little
bit
more
in
the
next
slide
or
two
related
to
the
hard
edge
and
soft
edge,
there
will
be
a
cantilevered
river
walk
along
along
the
red
dash
line
and
just
a
note
that
red
dash
line
represents
the
climate
resilient
edge.
C
C
C
So
you'll,
that's
partially
the
reason
for
the
planting
they
don't
want
to
have
to
go
through
pavement,
go
through
retaining
walls
so
and
just
it's
actually
a
relatively
shallow
pipe.
It's
only
three
feet
deep.
So
in
order
for
us
to
get
the
structural
stability
of
the
new
seawall,
we
need
to
be
offset
of
their
gas
line
just
from
settlement
and
pressures
on
that
gas
line,
but
you'll
see,
particularly
in
the
top
section.
C
The
second
section
is
through
the
playground
area.
So
just
noting
that
the
play
structure
you
see
is
for
graphic
purpose
only.
This
is
not
intended
to
be
the
final
play
structure,
but
just
you
know
providing
that
additional
excitement
being
up
against
the
water.
While
being
able
to
take
in
a
game,
if
you're,
a
parent
you're
not
stuck
trying
to
juggle
between
the
existing
location
of
the
playground
and
the
fields
where
they
currently
are,
the
idea
is
that
you're
able
to.
C
Really
capitalize
on
the
water
location
as
well
as
the
field
location,
and
then
the
third
section,
as
I
mentioned,
is
down
by
the
traff
city
center
side
and
just
another
area
where
it
is
lower
better
for
fishing
and
casting
a
pole
into
the
mystic
river.
But
you
also
have
the
the
raised
riverwalk
area
that
will
look
down
onto
the
fields
below
you'll,
see,
there's
a
seat
wall
underneath
the
planting,
so
lots
of
opportunities
to
sit
around
and
gather
along
the
water's
edge.
C
C
C
Lighting,
as
I
mentioned,
there
would
definitely
be
all
new
sports
lighting
highly
efficient,
really
able
to
dial
in
and
provide
the
best
lighting
possible.
That's
out
there
right
now
on
the
market
and
highly
you
know
highly
usable,
easily
usable,
but
also
there
is
some
lighting
along
the
harbor
walk
now
riverwalk.
C
That
will
that's
intended
to
stay
in
place
as
well
as
additional
lighting
throughout
the
park.
Just
so
it
doesn't
feel
so
dark
at
night,
and
we
really
want
people
to
use
the
park
as
as
long
as
they
can,
and
we
don't
want
it
to
be
limited
by
sunlight,
so
safe,
safe
walking
paths
throughout
the
park
in
better,
better
playing
sports
lighting
next
slide.
C
So
now
we're
gonna
get
into
some
of
the
amenities.
As
I
mentioned
two
natural
grass
fields.
We
all
know
what
those
look
like,
but
we
highlighted
those
two
locations
in
yellow
and
then
just
this
is
an
example
of
a
multi-use
field
where
you
can
see
the
overlays
of
a
soccer
field
in
a
baseball
field
in
the
and
how
those
how
those
would
operate
together.
So
just
the
soccer
field
is
outside
any
of
the
pitching
areas.
C
Next
slide
active
recreation,
game
tables,
it
could
be
ping
pong
we're
thinking
of
ping
pong,
particularly
this
would
probably
be
in
the
phase
two
area
in
the
plaza
game
tables,
cafe,
tables
spread
throughout
the
park,
different
locations,
pickleball
courts,
bocce
courts,
the
fishing
pier
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
the
adult
fitness
in
three
different
areas
throughout
the
park.
You
can
see
those
there
highlighted
in
the
yellow
next
slide.
C
Overlook
areas,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
an
overlook
area
in
the
seaport.
This
would
be
something
similar
here.
This
is
the
upper
left
image.
So
looking
back
down
along
the
harbor
walk,
just
provides
a
totally
different
perspective
of
the
water
in
the
city.
Skyline
could
be,
there
could
be
planters
out
there.
This
would
definitely
have
some
trees,
as
we
show
so
they're
definitely
shade,
which
is
good.
C
It's
just
really
a
key
spot
that
provides
a
destination
within
ryan,
open,
passive
lawn
areas
in
particularly
in
phase
two
and
then
embankment
seating.
This
would
be
something
along
the
little
league
fields
or
the
baseball
field
areas
as
I
was
mentioning,
where
it's
more
integrated
into
the
landscape
and
not
a
cold
metal
bleacher,
and
then
we
would
have
sitting
sitting
walls
underneath
the
trees.
As
you
can
see
in
this
image
here,
there's
opportunities
to
break
up
the
paving
types
and
patterns
to
help
separate.
C
In
the
phase
two
there's
a
we're
showing
a
shade
structure.
You
know
it
could
be
something:
that's
more
open
air.
As
you
see
in
the
upper
left
corner,
it
could
also
have
the
fabric
canopies.
These
are
just
options.
You
know
more
for
discussion
this
evening,
but
the
idea
is
that
there's
this
vertical
element
that
really
brings
attention
to
the
entrance
to
the
park
from
sullivan
square,
but
also
provides
an
opportunity
for
shade
sitting
underneath
it
and
then
the
temporary
screen
walls.
C
As
I
mentioned,
you
know,
as
we
wait
for
phase
two
to
come
along,
but
we
want
to
provide
a
buffer
along
alfred
street.
You
know,
could
it
be
something
that's
a
little
bit
more
sculptural
and
creative?
We
want
it
to
be.
Temporary
wood
really
provides
that
best
option,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
boring
wood,
slat
fence,
there's
some
really
creative
opportunities
through
textures
and
wood
types
that
could
be
utilized
to
really
bring
attention
along
sullivan
square,
or
you
know
there
there's
an
opportunity
to
do
a
mural
wall.
C
That's
exciting,
and
you
know
you
can
see
sort
of
in
the
the
second
photo.
You
know
this
is
in
roxbury,
could
it
could
easily
say
ryan
playground
or
charlestown?
Just
we
felt
like
there
was
a
good
opportunity
with
the
revitalization
of
sullivan
square,
to
really
make
make
a
nice
statement
for
the
park
and
charlestown
as
a
whole.
C
C
C
The
reason
for
that
is
if
park
has
to
do
a
maintenance
regime,
the
the
metal,
traditional
metal,
rope
style
structures
that
you
see
up
in
the
right
tend
to
lend
themselves
for
more
durability,
more
use
than
some
of
the
more
natural
play
pieces,
but
that
we
think
it's
going
to
be
a
combination
provides
the
interest
provides
options
for
the
kids
to
play
on,
but
it
could
be
a
mix.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
all
one
or
the
other.
C
So
more
of
like
the
balancing,
logs
or
stepping
logs,
or
could
be
even
a
climbing
wall
where
it's
made
out
of
natural
materials
to
complement
the
the
main
structures.
You
know
a
five
to
twelve
structure,
a
2-5
structure.
We
also
want
to
engage
the
kids
in
their
senses.
There
could
be
musical
type
instruments
which
you
see
here
in
the
middle
row
on
the
right-hand
side
and
bait.
We
want
to
leverage
the
fact
that
we
have
a
great
trade
rate
change.
C
Naturally,
from
the
harbor
walk
elevation,
22
down
to
the
field
entrances
at
16,
you
know
building
in
some
embankment,
slides
leveraging.
You
know
the
hill
change
and
it's
a
little
hard
to
see
in
the
lower
left-hand
side,
but
there's
a
main
tower
at
the
lower
level
and
you
enter
in
at
the
upper
level.
So
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities
and
to
really
capitalize
on
that
grade,
change
along
the
water
and
then
we
thought
it
would
be
really
unique
and
exciting
that
you
know.
C
If
we're
putting
the
playground
up
against
the
water,
we
should
definitely
put
the
splash
pad
with
it
up
against
the
water,
but
really
integrating
it
thoughtfully
along
the
harbor
edge
surrounding
it,
with
a
lot
of
trees
separating
it
from
the
playground.
But
yet
it's
still
visible
for
parents
to
be
able
to
navigate
multiple
children,
but
this
is
just
an
image
of
a
play,
a
splash
pad
being
nestled
in
within
tree
area,
so
it
doesn't
have
to
be
just
a
flat
surface.
C
C
Engaging
colors
the
bright
colors
tend
to
engage
kids
more,
but
you
know
from
if
we're
gonna
lean
more
towards
natural
materials,
you
can
go
more
towards
the
neutral
tones
and
just
because
we're
using
natural
materials
doesn't
mean
the
aesthetics
of
the
equipment
has
to
be.
You
know
less
exciting.
Here's
an
example
and
we've
talked
to
this
manufacturer-
we're
actually
considering
similar
pieces
for
ryan,
where
the
towers
are
made
out
of
a
wood
slat
on
traditional
steel
posts.
C
A
Thank
you
guys.
That
was
a
great
presentation
going
through
all
of
the
details,
and
there
was
some
lively
chat
that
was
going
on
during
the
presentation,
and
I
think
there
was
some
real
interest
in
seeing
that
north-south
connection
maintained.
So
we
had
shown
in
our
second
meeting
the
option
to
continue
the
riverwalk
connection
along
through
to
alford
street
and
the
challenge
that
we've
run
into,
and
this
is
not
to
say
that
it
absolutely
100
can't
happen,
but
all
of
the
infrastructure
of
eversource
makes
that
very
difficult.
A
A
E
Yeah,
I've
had
a
long
thought
on
this.
It's
a
difficult
problem
for
sure
you
have
some
of
the
gas
line
there
too.
The
only
thing
that
makes
physical
sense
within
the
boundaries
that
you
have
is
either
going
into
the
river
itself
and
going
underneath
the
bridge
in
what
is
called
a
submarine
tunnel.
So
it's
not
exposed
to
the
air
except
for
the
two
ends
and
those
ends
were
above
the
water
line.
E
The
other
option
is-
and
I
thought
it
was
kind
of
fascinating
when
I
saw
it
is,
and
it's
used
in
rail
railroads
is
a
or
it's
a
vertical
horizontal,
vertical
elevator
mechanism
that
actually
you
you
go
into
like
an
elevator
and
then
it
goes
up
and
then
it
goes
across
and
then
back
down
again,
which
I
thought
was
fantastic,
but
they're
not
cheap.
On
top
of
it,
there's
a
maintenance
issue
associated
with
them.
So
I
don't
think
that's
practical.
E
E
A
A
We
presume
that
that
would
be
a
btd
or
you
know
that
would
be
one
of
their
projects,
but
you
know
we
were
looking
at
the
different
options
and
we
recognized
the
physical
reality
of
like
yes,
you
could
go
into
the
bridge,
but
the
condition
there.
You
know
it's
like
you,
don't
really
want
to
go
underneath
stuff
these
days
when
your
project
is
to
try
and
build
up
just
we
don't
want
things
to
flood
we're.
Also
considering.
E
That
yeah,
I'm
not
saying
I'm
not
saying
it
does
it,
has
an
economic,
a
connotation
there's
truth
to
that.
But
but
I
don't
think
that's
going
to
be
a
real
issue
because
just
like,
if
you
have
a
pipe,
that's
shaped
into
you
and
as
long
as
the
ends
of
the?
U
are
above
the
threat,
the
threat
of
flood
is.
Are
you
going
to
have
water
in
the?
U
in
the?
U
pipe?
No,
so
it's
just
a
matter
of
the
construct.
There
has
to
be
considered-
and
I
realize
this
is.
E
This
is
not
a
parks
issue,
it's
not
the
the
mbta's
issue
and
it's
not
the
traffic
department's
issue,
it's
no
one's
and
yet
everyone's
because
we
got
to
get
people
across
somehow
and
we're
not
going
to
have
a
turkey
run
on
the
street.
That's
that's
ridiculous.
It's
it's
too
dangerous
for
bicyclists,
especially
ones
that
are
going
to
be
transitioning
through
here.
Taking
the
the
was
the
north
strand
pathway.
So
these
are
going
to
be
bicyclists
with
trailers.
E
So
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
sit
on
a
four-foot
island,
it's
not
possible
and
myself.
I
have
a
tandem
bike.
So
if
I
take
my
girlfriend
out,
I'm
going
to
be
on
a
tandem
bike.
Again,
it's
a
long
bike
and
we
have
the
same
problem
over
at
berry
field
too,
with
the
getting
up
over
chelsea
street.
But
let's
focus
on
this
one.
E
We
need
to
have
better
transit
for
the
population
going
outwards
to
to
go
into
medford
to
the
parks
out
that
way,
as
well
as
going
all
the
way
to
lexington
in
concord,
if
you
want
to,
but
as
well
as
the
the
commuter
traffic
is
coming
across
from
from
everett
as
well
as
medford
in
somerville
coming
into
boston,
as
well
as
into
the
navy
yard.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
that
actually
commute
to
to
work
in
the
navy
yard,
bye
bye
from
medford.
A
We
had
an
initial
meeting
with
public
works
to
discuss
this
and
I
imagine
there
are
going
to
be
more
because
we
recognize
that
this
is
a
critical,
critical
point
of
interest.
You
know
regionally
as
well,
and
I
think
that
the
question
for
now
for
our
design
for
this
meeting
is
sort
of
what
what
should
we
be
doing
in
order
to
get
ready
for
that
connection
to
happen,
you
know,
and
is
that,
like
I
mean
I
think
we
need
to
sort
of
continue
working
on
the
design
in
that
corner.
A
E
And
just
work
it
out.
As
you
know,
we
have
to
maybe
have
a
meeting
specifically
with
us
to
talk
about
this
in
all
the
people
that
are
involved.
Maybe
that
would
be
a
good
idea
so
that
we're
not
pushing
you
into
a
bad
space,
nor
you
know
get
all
the
players
on
the
you
know
around
the
table.
It's
really
what
it
comes
down
to
I'm
open
to
talk,
but
others
want
to
talk
so
yeah.
C
Just
real
quickly
before
we
move
on
and
gracie,
if
you
don't
mind,
I
believe
alice
asked
the
question
if
we
could
show
where
the
possibility
of
a
future
connection
is
on
alfred
street,
and
just
noting
that,
while
b
has
had
a
very
preliminary
conversation
in
that
mbta
with
their
new
bike
path
and
said,
hey,
we
should
definitely
have
a
connection
to
ryan.
That's
the
right
thing
to
do.
C
You
know,
there's
no
funding
in
place,
but
there's
the
idea
that
there
would
be
a
connection,
the
challenges,
and
maybe
the
mbta
has
more
pull
with
eversource
but
gracie.
If
you're
able
to
sort
of
hover
your
mouse
over
where
the
future
touchdown
of
a
of
a
bridge
would
be
based
on
b's
conversation,
you'll
see
it's
exactly
where
the
eversource
building
is,
and
that
makes
that
piece
very
challenging.
C
However,
as
I
noted
you
know,
bridging
a
bridging
a
major
street
like
alford
street
is
not
cheap
by
any
stretch
of
the
imagination
requires
a
lot
of
agreements
between
state
city
and
eversource,
but
long
story
short
that's
been
identified
as
the
future
connection
to
continue
the
harbor
walk
over
into
summerville
and
along
the
mbta
property.
There
brandon.
C
E
F
Yes,
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
packed
in
a
quite
a
lot
into
this
plan.
So
I'm
pretty
impressed
with
that,
but
I
am
concerned
about
a
few
things.
One
is
the
building
the
existing
building.
Is
it
going
to
be
renovated
or
anything
or
is
it
just?
I
mean
I
can't
imagine
it's
in
shape
in
the
kind
of
shape
I
haven't
been
there.
So
I
I'm
asking
the
question.
F
A
Yeah
it's
in
bad
shape
and
we
recognize
that
and
we
have
put
in
a
funding
request
for
pfd
to
address
that
and
that
was
submitted
in
the
most
recent
round
of
budget
requests
and
we
are
expecting
that
we'll
get
some
sort
of
funding
for
it.
We've
done
an
initial
assessment
as
part
of
our
project,
so
I
think
that
would
be
something
that
would
you
know
smooth
the
process
for
them
to
get
their
projects
started
to
address
it.
A
I
don't
know
what
you
know,
because
we've
just
requested
funding
for
that.
I
don't
know
how
that
works
as
far
as
their
time
frame,
but
it
will
be
addressed.
That's
like
you
know.
We've
requested
funding
for
that,
so
that
process
has
has
started,
but
I
don't
know
if
we
can
promise
that,
like
it's
gonna
happen
on
the
same
time
frame
as
our
park,
so.
F
All
right
was
good
to
know
that
it's
already,
the
request
has
been
made
in
I
mean
put
in
so
I
guess.
However,
we
could
help
I
the
parking.
I
know
that
the
people
who
have
responded
to
your
survey
say
that
they
bike
or
walk.
I
don't
know
if
you're
getting
a
lot
of
people
with
young
children
saying
that
they're
biking
and
walking
there.
F
So
I
I
understand
why
you
would
only
put
a
few
spots
there
and,
depending
on
the
private
landowner
next
door,
who
has
always
allowed
parking
there,
but
they're
only
required
as
part
of
their
agreement
with
the
dep
to
have.
I
don't
know
a
small
number
relatively
so
what
I
think
that,
because
you
never
know
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
future,
you
never
know
about
properties
changing
hands,
and
if
that
is
how
we're
expecting
people
to
be
able
to
park,
I
think
that
you
need
to
get
something
more
solid
than
them
being
a
good
neighbor.
F
I
think
there
has
to
be
something
in
some
kind
of
contractual
agreement
that
says
that
they
in
perpetuity
they
will
allow
that.
I
I
maybe
that's
impossible,
but
I
think
that
we
need
to,
and
you
need
to
try
to
do
that
because
to
say
that
people
who
the
games
may
be
with
other
teams
from
other
places.
A
I
I
I
totally
hear
you
on
that,
and
I
think
that
you
know
there
are
two
things
here.
One
you
know
we
have
parks
department
does
provide
commentary
on
the
permit
that
they
are
submitting
for
425
medford,
and
so
I
my
understanding
is
that
the
agreement
for
parking
will
be
solidified,
I'm
not
sure
the
quantity
necessarily,
but
we
did
receive
verbal.
A
F
Understand
but
they're
right
now,
but
they're
looking
for
approval
and
if
I'm
just
saying
it's
a
vulnerable
situation
that
the
community
is
in,
because
if
the
city
is
not
complete,
you
know
isn't
thrilled
with
their
project.
Is
this
become
a
bargaining
chip?
So
I'm
just
going
to
leave
that
as
an
issue
that
needs
to
get
resolved
in
a
more
permanent
way
and
the
last
is
above
the
trees.
I'm
sorry
the
I'm,
the
gentleman
that
just
spoke,
I'm
sorry!
I
missed.
I
don't
remember
his
name.
F
No!
No!
No!
No
brian
said
I
apologize.
I'm
sorry!
That's
okay!
When
you
said
that
the
71
trees,
you
wouldn't
ex,
didn't
realize
that
that
there
were
that
many
given
the
space.
I
think
that's
what
150
trees
is
going
to
look
like
not
much
better
than
that.
So
I
feel
like
we're,
creating
a
beautiful
park
that
as
the
heat
island,
that
we
are
as
charlestown.
C
F
It
makes
me
very
nervous,
so
I
just
say:
try
to
get
us
more
trees
in
there
save
more.
If
you
can
that
make
a
commitment
to
not
put
you
know
twigs
there,
you
know
that
the
caliper
is
enough,
that
to
be
a
real
tree
in
real
time
without
being
at
risk
for
dying,
because
it's
too
big,
but
I'm
just
worried
that
trees
is
still
not
going
to
look
like
there's
shade
here,
except
for
isolated
places.
So
I'm
not
happy
with
that.
I
understand
it's
everything's
a
compromise
here.
F
You
can
only
pack
so
many
things
in
and
save
trees
that
are
either
there
now
or
plant
them.
If
you
have
a
you
know,
something
else
already
planned
for
it,
but
I
I
just
think
there's
not.
There
are
not
enough
trees
for
this
big
space,
and
that's
that's
all.
I
have
right
now,
but
I
just
hope
you
can
there's
a
way
to
reconsider
that.
F
A
B
D
Hello,
I'm
doing
some
multitasking
with
a
toddler
here.
So
thank
you
for
your
forgiveness.
I
was
just
going
to
chat
in
on
the
discussion
around
the
crossing
at
alford
street.
I
don't
think
a
short-term
crossing
is
really
terrible.
I
think
it's
just.
How
does
this
fit
in
with
a
long-term
rutherford
nav
crossing
and
last
time
I
remember
seeing
the
plans
the
crossing
wasn't
like
right
at
where
the
eversource
building
was.
D
C
I
think
their
initial
because,
as
I
mentioned,
they're
starting
at
the
other
end
of
their
project,
this
will
be
the
last
component
of
it
in
2027
and
they're,
raising
alfred
street,
at
least
in
their
existing
or
current
condition,
approximately
three
feet
up
above
its
existing
grade.
Now
so
we'll
be,
you
know,
taking
into
those
account
those
future
grades.
That's
part
of
what
you
see
on
the
plan,
there's
essentially
a
wall
that
will
surround
that
eversource
building.
C
A
A
A
Yeah,
it's
it's
frustrating
because
you
know:
there's
never
like
a
great
time
like
everything's
coordinated.
Let's
go
have
the
public
meeting,
you
know
it's
like
okay,
these
there's
so
many
moving
parts
and
there's
so
many
projects
in
this
area
that
like,
if
we
waited
to
share
these
designs,
I
feel
like
we'd,
never
go
anywhere,
but
I
think
that
this
is
obviously
a
really
critical
part
of
the
project
that
people
feel
really
strongly
about
myself
included.
A
So
you
know,
I
think
that
it's
something
that
we
would
provide
like
an
update
on
our
project
web
page
and
so
to
say,
like
here's,
the
here's,
the
connector.
This
is
what
we're
thinking
or
you
know
if
it
comes
back-
and
it's
like-
oh
my
god,
there's
all
these
other
reasons
that
we
just
run
into
that.
We
just
can't
do
it.
You
know
we
would
also
share
that
frustrating
information.
If
that
happens,
I
don't
foresee
that,
but
just
to
be
totally
transparent,
like
we'll
share
our
progress
as
as
it
happens.
D
G
Thanks
be,
and
thanks
brandon,
I
think
I
have
the
shortest
of
questions
about
this
crossing
of
alfred
street
bridge
and
then
other
questions
about
the
waterfront.
I
guess
one
possibility
to.
I
think
I
agree
with
amber
it's
probably
a
long.
Just
putting
a
great
long-term
solution
is
probably
it,
but
I
do
wonder
it's
not
clear.
G
You
know,
will
the
final
alfred
street
bridge
or
alfred
street,
I
guess,
and
the
edge
of
the
park
be
at
the
same
elevation
along
the
whole
length
of
it
or
will
it
some
places
there
be
sort
of
a
elevation
mismatch,
because
it's
possible
that
the
real
connection
spot
is
closer
to
like
the
mbt
or
like
a
driveway
like
south
of
the
mbta
yard
right
like?
Could
that
be
a
place
with
the
civilized
intersection
for
pedestrians
and
bikes?
This
sort
of
midway
like
I
would
obviously
love
to
stay
on
the
water,
but
like?
G
Is
there
an
alternative
where
you're
not
going
all
the
way
back
to
sullivan
square
to
connect,
but
you
have
a
really
safe,
protected
crossing
there
and
I
think
it'll
just
be
a
matter
of
like
how
those
two
alignments
work
right.
If
the
park
is
lower
than
the
road
or
vice
versa,
it'll
never
happen
at
this
other
place.
So
just
sort
of
keeping
that
in
mind
as
the
final
designs
get
worked
out
with
btd
everyone's
favorite
collaborator,
I
can
safely
say
as
a
former
employee.
So
that's
just
an
observation.
G
The
question
I
have
is
about
the
shoreline
solutions
that
you
solutions
that
you
guys
have
proposed
and
it
wasn't
clear
to
me
a
if
you're
moving
the
sea
wall
or
rebar
rebuilding
the
sea
wall.
If
the
sea
wall
is
just
like
it's
the
same
sea
wall
and
then
the
plantings
you
described,
I
guess
in
detail
brandon,
are
they
serving
an
actual
like
adaptation,
resilience
purpose
or
it's
just
like
those
plants
can
get
wet
and
it'll
be
fine.
When
the
flood
waters
recede.
C
C
So
they
would
prefer
not
to
touch
that
gas
line
either,
so
they
both
both
eversource
and
national
grid,
have
our
current
thinking
and
plans
they're
going
through
it
with
their
own
engineers
and
their
own
perspective
and
we'll
be
reporting
back
from
their
side.
As
to
where,
where
we
think
we
are,
we
had
a
really
good
call
with
national
grid
the
gas
company-
and
you
know
just
working
through
it.
They
seem
very
much
on
board
with
the
current
plans
that
we're
showing.
So
we
hope
that
remains
the
case.
Really,
their
only
caveat
is.
C
If
we
need
to
get
to
that
gas
line
in
a
quick,
instant,
we
don't
want
to
be
really
having
to
do
major
excavation
from
a
wall
or
pavement.
They
want
to
be
able
to
just
basically
put
a
bucket
in
the
ground
and
start
digging,
and
I
have
to
imagine
that's
probably
the
best
philosophy
given
that
it's
a
24
inch
gas
line.
So
so
there's
that
and
then
related
to
the
planting.
C
It's
definitely
intended
to
get
inundated,
and
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
I
want
to
call
the
living
shoreline,
because
it's
going
to
really
be
elevated
above
the
water
currently
now,
as
sea
level,
continues
to
rise
and
becomes
more
and
more
inundated.
Maybe
that
does
become
more
of
a
living
shoreline
as
time
progresses.
But
right
now
it's
intended
more
to
provide
just
habitat
along
the
water's
edge
for
for
birds,
and
you
know
other
critters.
C
G
C
A
As
far
as
your
opinion,
alice
on,
like
I
mean,
I
think
it's
great
for
people
to
interact
with
plantings,
but
I
also
know
that
it's
not
awesome
for
plantings
to
have
people
interact
with
them.
You
know
so,
like
is,
do
you
have
like
a
recommended
approach
for
shoreline
plantings
like
keep
people
away
or
like
try
and
have
these
experiences
integrated.
G
I
think
you
guys
might
be
planting
the
first
like
native
salt,
tolerant
species
in
a
place
where
people
might
touch
them
like
in
boston,
like
there's,
not
a
lot
of
precedent
for
this
there's
salt,
tolerant
plantings
in
martin's
park,
but
not
so
many
that
people
are
like
ooh.
What's
this
and
I
guess
the
other
question
is
having
some
kind
of
protection
so
that
people
aren't
walking
through
them
to
try
to
get
to
the
water
which
I'm
guessing
is
what
that
very
thin
line
is
in
the
first
diagram.
G
Yeah,
so
I
think
in
that
world
I
think
the
plants
it's
great
that
they're
there.
I
think,
if
you
guys
take
the
time
to
bring
in
salt,
tolerant
species
and
that's
a
specific
part
of
your
design
and
or
native
species,
then
you
want
to
speak
to
that.
I
think
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
interpretive
signage,
which
the
friends
of
the
boston,
harbor
walk,
might
be
really
interested
in
helping
you
with
they.
Don't
they
usually
do
more
history
stuff?
But
I
think
if
you
said
you
know,
this
is
the
thing
we
want
to
talk
about
here.
D
A
So
dan
has
his
hand
raised.
If
you
don't
mind
for
one
second,
I'm
just
gonna
tim
mckenna
asked
the
question:
can
you
speak
to
the
time
frame
again
and
he
changes
the
last
name
so,
the
time
frame?
We
have
the
ideas
that
we're
gonna
get
and
go
into
we're.
Sorry,
we're
gonna
learn
to
talk
first
and
then
we're
gonna
start
permitting
this
summer
we're
going
to
start
construction
next
spring.
That
is
the
goal
spring
2023
and
it's
going
to
take.
A
Certainly
I
would
think
a
year
I
don't
know
brandon,
you
may
have
more
construction
experience
than
I
do
here,
but
we've
got
nine
acres
that
we're
working
on
so
a
year
for
these
fields
to
be
offline.
So
I
think
that's
probably
where
you're,
where
you're
coming
from
and
changes
from
the
last
meeting
we
had
three
designs
at
the
last
meeting
we
were
asking
people
to
choose
from
and
now
we've
got
one
that's
sort
of
an
amalgam
of
those
three.
A
E
E
If
there's
something
that's
interesting
down
there,
I
I
don't
know,
but
you
know,
depending
what
you
put
in
there,
so
that
that's
all
great
stuff,
the
lighting
along
the
shore
should
be
what
I
call
waist
down
along
the
rail
there
along
the
shoreline,
because
you
don't
want
to
have
the
flood
of
the
lights,
so
people
can't
see
across
to
the
shore
outside
to
the
other
slot
sure.
So
that
would
be
an
important
thing:
I'm
not
against
having
tall
lights
but
higher
lights.
E
So
they're,
not,
I
hate
these
pedestal
lights,
they're
too
low,
and
so
when
you
you're
walking
along
and
you're
being
blinded
you're,
not
getting
the
illumination,
especially
if
it's
not
aiming
downwards.
If
it's
outwards,
it's
it's
terrible.
So
you
know
brandon's
shaking
his
head.
So
he
knows
what
I'm
talking
about.
So
that's.
E
I
do
yeah
yeah
so
because
you
know
lighting
is
important,
there's
no
doubt
about
from
safety
as
well
and
the
shoreline
getting
in
into
their
fingers
into
this
into
the
shore.
I'm
a
little
nervous
about
that,
because
you're
gonna
have
a
little
tot
going
into
the
water.
We
don't
want
that.
So
we're
gonna
be
be
careful
about
that
that
we
have
safety
in
mind.
E
A
All
right,
so
I'm
looking
at
the
time
and
it's
7
27.
This
is
sort
of
amazing
coincidence,
like
the
last
meeting
that
we
had
too
everybody
like
we'd
gone
through
all
the
comments
and
all
the
hands
raised,
and
it
was
like
7
29,
very
impressive,
kathy
reese,
some
positive
notes
here.
I
just
want
to
applaud
the
design
you
created
yay.
A
So
I
think
you
guys
gave
us
some
great
feedback
tonight.
I
think
that
you
know
we're
gonna
go
through
and
really
make
sure
that
any
trees
we're
taking
out
are
100
necessary.
There
are
a
lot
of
trees
that
are
in
really
poor
condition
on
the
site,
so
that's
another
layer
for
removals
and
usually
that's
what
we
really
try
and
focus
on
changing.
A
An
elevation
in
a
site
is
really
hard
to
retain
trees,
so
there
are
gonna
be
more
than
than
in
our
standard
project,
but
we
are
absolutely
going
to
take
another
look
at
that
and
I
appreciate
your
feedback
on
that
joanne
and
I'm
sure
many
other
people
care
about
that
as
well
and
yeah.
We've
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
post
the
proposed
plan.
We're
certainly
going
to
keep
working
on
coordination
with
btd
and
the
the
connector,
because
we
support
that
as
well.