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From YouTube: Dudley Town Common Design Meeting - March 16, 2022
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Dudley Town Common Design Meeting - March 16, 2022
A
I
always
have
to
click
that
off,
so
the
meeting
is
going
to
be
recorded,
it'll
be
posted
on
the
project
page,
which
is
at
the
bottom
of
the
slide
here,
but
christine
is
also
going
to
post
it
in
the
chat
feature,
so
anybody
that
isn't
able
to
attend
they
can
they
can
go
on
to
the
project.
Page
see
the
conversation
that
took
place.
We
also
will
be
posting
the
presentation,
along
with
meeting
minutes,
so
that'll
outline
the
discussion
as
well.
Next.
A
It's
still
on
medium:
there
we
go
zoom
tips.
I
think
we're
all
pretty
well
accustomed
to
zoom
at
this
point
so
that
the
microphone
camera
on
and
off,
if
you
we
can,
I
see
some
people
are
already
activating
the
chat
features
so
we'll
do
our
best
to.
We
can
certainly
enter
chat
chats
and
that,
while
we're
presenting
and
then
you
what's
best
is
you
know
the
raise
the
hand
feature
and
we
can
kind
of
manage
the
discussion
at
that
point.
A
But
with
just
three
of
us
I
think
at
that
point
we
can
all
probably
go
go
with
our
our
unmuting
and
discussing
next
did
we
do
we
anyways
so
tonight's
agendas
as
introduction
of
the
project
team,
looking
at
the
project
schedule
and
funding,
and
then
the
consultant
will
go
through
a
presentation,
we'll
have
listening
discussion
and
then
closing
remarks
in
the
next
steps.
A
Next,
so
my
name
is
nathan
frazee,
I'm
the
project
manager
from
boston
parks
on
with
the
city,
as
well
as
christine
brandeo
she's.
Our
outreach
coordinator
in
external
affairs
so
she's
a
great
contact
for
friends,
groups
and
and
resource
that
our
consultant
tonight
is
crowley
cottrell
from
their
team.
We
have
naomi
jp
and
travon
in
travon.
I
just
noticed
your
name
is
spelled
wrong
there.
So
I
apologized,
I
also
included
deseant's
contact
from
office
of
neighborhood
services,
so
if
there
are
issues
in
the
neighborhood
that
are
not
project
specific,
his
contact
is.
A
Is
there
next?
So
just
looking
at
the
project
schedule
we're
obviously
march
16th
tonight
is
our
first
community
meeting.
We
already
have
our
next
meeting
scheduled
for
april
20th,
and
then
we
anticipate
our
third
meeting
being
in
june,
so
potentially
can
line
that
up
with
maybe
the
the
farmer's
market
start
kickoff.
A
So
maybe
we
you
know
we
can
certainly
be
in
conversation
about
maybe
being
a
booth
or
something
like
that
there
following
that
meeting,
if
we
feel
we're
in
a
good
position
we're
going
to
transition
into
design
development
and
construction
document
production,
those
documents
are
what
we
use
to
put
out
to
a
bid
for
construction
and
we
have
an
anticipated
start
date
of
august.
This
fall
with
a
estimated
budget
of
880
000,
and
we
listening
to
your
all's
schedule
in
in
what
the
farmers
market
timing
is.
A
We
can
certainly
be
accommodated
to
that
to
make
sure
that
that
still
can
function.
So
that's
the
one
one
benefit
of
this
being
a
two
parcel
site
is
that
we
can
start
there.
Allow
you
guys
to
have
finish
the
season
there,
and
then
we
can
rotate
the
construction
and
then
we
anticipate
opening
in
spring
of
2023.
A
next,
so
just
super
big
picture.
What
are
our
main
pillars
of
our
park?
Design
that
we
we
look
at
are
city
of
boston,
priorities,
safety
guidelines
and
regulations,
parks
and
recreation
goals,
and
then,
where
we
are
tonight
with
community
input
next,
just
hitting
what
the
priorities
for
the
city
are:
expanding,
walkable
access,
addressing
equity,
climate
resiliency,
health
and
housing
and
community
building
next,
the
parks
department,
goals,
accessible
and
available
to
all
diverse
balance
and
efficient
mix
of
use,
meaningful
and
inclusive
community
engagement,
adapting
and
resilient
landscapes
and
promoting
connections.
A
So
you
can
see
some
of
these
overlap,
and-
and
hopefully
we
want
to
think
about
these
goals
as
we're
looking
at
and
we're
having
the
conversation
about
what
is
currently
happening
and
going
on
in
the
in
these
two
parks.
Next.
A
B
So
yeah,
so
I
am
jp
charbonneau
hi
everyone.
I
am
part
of
the
team
for
crowley.
Cottrell,
we're
the
landscape,
architects
tasked
with
this
project,
which
is
in
two
pieces.
It's
the
northern
and
the
southern
site,
and
right
now
we'll
just
focus
on
the
southern
side,
because
that's
primarily
where
the
the
farmers
market
happens
and
the
this
site
and
the
northern
site
was
done
about
30
years
ago
in
1996.
B
And
since
then
I
I
I
you
know,
we
visited
the
site
last
winter
or
in
december
and
november
of
last
year,
and
it
to
me
it
doesn't
seem
like
it
has
been
touched
since
and
if
there
is
a
general
impression
of
both
sites-
and
I
would
say
it
looks
tired-
and
it
could
use
some
love
and
what's
interesting
about
the
site-
is
that
it's
small?
B
And
yet
it
has
a
lot
going
on.
Just
in
terms
of
the
site
itself,
I
have
to
say
of
the
two
sites
in
our
in
our
visits.
This
site
was
the
one
that
was
more
visited.
B
I
would
say
the
northern
side
felt
more
remote
and
less
less
people
were
there
and
that's
partly
because
we
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
around
the
area-
and
it
may
not
be
as
welcoming
and
the
same
could
be
said
here.
However,
this
is
probably
closer
to
more
activity
closer
to
the
neighborhood.
B
This,
I
think,
can
overcome
some
of
those
barriers
that
the
other
side
cannot
what's
interesting
here
to
us
and
part
of
the
reason
why
we're
doing
this
presentation
is
to
give
you
our
our
first
impressions
really,
and
it's
really
to
hear
your
point
of
view
and
we'll
get
that
at
the
very
end,
but
we're
just
going
to
share
our
thoughts
and
hear
your
take
on
our
thoughts
and
just
to
hear
your
perspective
as
well
at
the
end.
But
the
kind
of
takeaway
from
the
site
is
that
it.
B
It
is
broken
up
into
many
different
pieces
and
it
feels
like
each
piece
doesn't
communicate
with
each
other
or
contribute
to
a
whole,
and
part
of
this,
we
think,
is
looking
at
the
various
levels
of
the
site,
especially
the
southern
site,
and
and
we're
using
this
color
code
to
communicate
or
illustrate
the
various
levels
of
the
site.
B
Just
in
terms
of
like
steps
and
steps
up,
and
so
the
darkest
color
is
we're
considering
zero
or
you
know
at
the
sidewalk
level
at
one
end,
and
then
there
are
various
steps
up
to
different
platforms
in
the
site
and
if
you
are
even
remotely
mobility
impaired,
what
this
means
is
that
you
probably
would
not
negotiate
the
steps
very
easily
and
you'd
have
to
walk
around
the
site
to
get
from
one
end
to
the
other,
and
we
feel
like
that
is
a
that
is
a
shortcoming
and
it
is
probably
a
deficiency
that
doesn't
help
contribute
to
the
activity
of
the
site.
B
My
understanding
I've
never
been
there
when
the
farmers
market
happens,
but
my
understanding
is
that
most
of
the
farmers
market
activity
happens
in
the
central
zone
and
that
very
little
activity
or
happens
at
the
other
places
it
may
be.
People
may
be
gathering
there
that,
but
most
of
the
farmer,
farmers
market
activity
happens
in
that
central
zone
and
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
B
Just
some
general
impressions
and
observations
that
we
have
on
site
was
that
it
seems
very
structurally
in
in
terms
of
the
paving
it
seems
all
pretty
sound.
However,
there
are
various
a
lot
of
elements
at
play
at
this
site,
just
in
terms
of
the
number
of
steps
walls,
but
the
overall
impression
is
that
it
it
feels
somewhat
neglected
and
there
are,
for
example,
there
are
trees
that
have
been
removed
and
not
replaced.
B
We
will
bring
that
to
this
place,
which
sorely
needs
it,
and
it's
long
overdue,
just
some
positive
things,
because
we
don't
want
to
necessarily
dwell
on
the
negative
too
much
is
that
there
are
smaller
moments,
that
of
of
kind
of
personal
touches
and
more
so
in
the
northern
part
than
the
southern
part,
and
and
a
lot
of
these
personal
touches
or
these
little
flares
are,
are
so
small
and,
for
example,
this
is
a
a
tile
inlay
on
the
bollard
at
the
edges
of
the
site.
B
You
know
if
you,
if
you
didn't,
stop
and
look
at
them.
You'd
walk
right
by
and
never
notice,
and
you
know
there
are
also
small
kind
of
intricate
engravings
into
the
brick
into
a
several
of
the
bricks
at
on
the
site.
Again,
if
you
did
not
look
down
and
look
carefully,
you
would
not
see
these.
We
think
these
are
kind
of
unique
special
moments
that
it
could
be
celebrated
more
and
perhaps
we
could
take
off
on
this
idea
into
a
new
design,
but
we
thought
that
was
kind
of
interesting.
B
And
then
we
kind
of
like
to
show
a
slide
of
kind
of
inspirational
images
and
things
to
kind
of
spark
discussion,
and
you
know
we're
not
necessarily
proposing
any
of
these
ideas.
Yet
this
is
very
much
kind
of
a
kind
of
a
listening
session
to
hear
what
you
all
have
to
say,
but
there
are
examples
of
plazas
which
this
the
southern
side
is
pretty
much
very
much
a
plaza
that
treat
different
conditions
that
we
have
to
deal
with
differently
and
so
more
successfully.
B
B
I
think
there
are
this
example
on
the
lower
left
is
near
the
aquarium
in
boston,
and
so
we
just
thought
these
were
interesting
ideas.
B
We
we
just
ended
on
this,
because
when
we
were
going
to
talk
about
the
two
sites,
but
we
just
had
this
side
by
side
to
talk
over,
but
really
we
want
to
hear
from
you.
You
know
we're
here
to
listen
to
what
you
have
to
say,
we're
very
interested
in
what
you
have
to
say
and
some
of
these
questions
we
wrote
down
as
a
way
to
spark
discussion.
We
really
want
to
hear
you
know
what
people
like
about
this
place.
What
people
don't
like
about
this
place?
B
How
is
it
does
it
function
well
or
are
there
uses
in
here?
That
could
be
improved
or
are
there
uses
here?
That
could
be
that
are
new,
that
that
haven't
been
conceived
of
before
that
can
come
here,
and
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
these
little
touches
that
are
in
on
both
sides
are
do
any
of
these?
Have
do
any
of
these
pieces
speak
to
you?
Are
they
culturally
significant
to
you,
or
does
it
feel
out
of
touch?
B
You
know
these
are
things
that
we
want
to
have
a
conversation
with
you
all
about
so
with
that
that's
kind
of
how
that's
kind
of
our
presentation.
But
it's
really
more
about
you
all,
and
we
really
like
to
hear
what
you
have
to
say.
A
It's
jp,
I
think
the
fact
that
we
still
just
have
three
of
you
attending.
We
can
keep
it
pretty
informal
for
this
discussion.
So
unless
we
feel
like
we
need
to
look
at
the
the
slides
or
the
layout,
I
think
we
can
kind
of
open
it
and
have
a
discussion
with
alice
and
yasser
on
your
all's
experience
and
kind
of
what
you
have
observed
and
how
it
functions
for
you
and
any
input
you
might
have
for
us
going
forward.
B
C
Well
I'll
say
I
would
like
the
visuals
real
quick,
so
I
can.
I
can
touch
on
some
of
these
points,
without
forgetting
them,
unless
we
put
them
in
the
chat,
but
so
I'm
part
of
the
food
project
and
how
we
use
the
site
is
predominantly
for
farmers
markets
once
a
week,
but
in
addition
to
farmers
markets,
this
is
a
really
good
outreach
location
for
us.
C
Whether
it's
flyer,
distributions
newsletters
sign
ups
likes
trying
to
get
bystanders
that
walk
around
and
getting
their
email
addresses
to
be
put
in
newsletter
campaigns
surveying.
We
do
a
lot
of
surveying
at
this
site
again
mostly
about
the
the
the
farmer's
market
experience,
but
it
would
be
nice
if
we
can
get
a
survey
of
of
from
our
residents.
That
is
also
of
how
do
they
experience
the
site
itself.
C
That
would
be,
I
think,
a
nice
survey
to
kind
of
get
a
holistic
understanding
of
what
the
community
kind
of
experiences
and
feels
about
the
site
and
how
they
would
like
to
get
it
developed
or
revitalized
in
a
sense.
But
I
would
say
me
personally
from
this
site:
what's
the
best
part
of
these
apostles?
C
Are
the
engagement
that
it
has
because
it's
so
small
it
allows
for
a
lot
of
foot
traffic
to
cross
through,
but
as
well
as
a
lot
of
car
traffic
that
passes
by
where
we
usually
have
a
banner
for
the
food
project?
To
let
folks
know
at
that
top
area
where
the
stages
that
lets
folks
know
driving
by
that
we
have
a
farmer's
market
being
conducted,
and
I
was
off
of
operation.
D
C
And
so
that
that's
also
a
good
point.
What's
a
good
part
about
that,
I
talked
about
the
engagement
not
only
through
walking
by
through
bystanders,
but
there's
also
that
bench
area
underneath
the
trees
that.
F
C
Just
like
yep
right
there
well
a
lot
of
folks
just
be
hanging
out,
and
it's
it's
really
a
nice
informal,
hangout
spot
where,
like
almost
all
day,
there's
different
types
of
residents
that
use
that
location
for
different
purposes,
whether
it's
just
to
like
talk
about
things,
whether
it's
to
meet
up.
You
know.
C
Right
and
so-
and
so
that's
a
really
good
plan,
it's
right
next
to
the
bus,
stop
that
is
right
there
too
right
now,
so
you
know
people
get
off
the
bus
and
then
they
go
directly
to
the
benches.
So
that's
that's!
A
good!
A
nice
touch
right
there
and
I
also
kind
of
like
the
the
tiered
layout
of
the
plaza
right
now,
where
there's
that
tip
and
then
the
the
cemented
free
space
and
then
there's
a
little
like
right
that
out
that.
C
Yeah,
that's
okay!
I
like
that
that
tiered
structure,
but
now
what
what
I
need
to
say
about
what
I
I
think
might
need
to
be
changed
is
first,
our
farmer's
market
line
usually
starts
at
the
right
side
of
the
of
this
parcel
right
and
there's
no
shade
right
there
and
so
there'll
be
long
lines
in
the
summer
where
people
are
hot
and
they
have
to
wait.
B
E
C
Yeah
and
then
so
they
and
we
have
a
lot
of
elderly
folks
too
so
or
you
know
seniors,
and
so
they
it
gets
hard
for
them
to
be
standing
up
for
to
wait
for
the
produce.
For
that
long.
In
the.
A
C
And
I
also
wanted
to
to
speak
to
the
the
homeless
that
use
that
space
and
trying
to
not
kick
them
out
because
they
use
that
space,
because
it's
the
only
kind
of
open
space
that
they
have,
and
I
want
to
be
courteous
to
not
displace
people
that
that
is
their
only
kind
of
access
to
to
to
kind
of
having
a
home
in
a
sense,
and
they
usually
use
that
back
piece.
Whereas
the
where's,
the
grass
and
the
trees
yeah
right
around
there.
C
And
so-
and
I
know
homelessness
is
a
problem
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
like
to
face.
But
I
am
one
of
opponent
of
being
courteous
to
the
folks
that
that
is
the
only
way
of
living
and
if,
if
not
trying
to
you,
trying
to
use
community
better
benefits
to
maybe
provide
a
structure
for
some
type
of
temporary
housing
or
something
like
that
or
vouchers
to
get
folks.
That
use
usually
use
that
space
to
provide
them
housing
opportunities.
C
That
would
be
nearby
because
they
know
that
area
so
well
that
it
wouldn't
be
feasible
for
them
to
travel
to
like
jp
or
matapan.
If
you
say
like
this,
free
housing
people
want
to
be
where
their
locality
is.
C
It
also
gets
not
too
not
too
much
trash,
but
there'll
be
some
some
trash,
because
there'll
be
just
so
much
bystanders
and
then
so
I
think
there's
only
one
trash
can
on
the
like
right
side
right
next
to
that
that
podium,
and
so
it
would
be
nice
if,
if
not
only
if
we
can
have
more
more
trash
cans
but
like
a
maintenance
program
to
upkeep
the
plaza
that
same
thing
would
be
for
like
the
cement
space
where,
where
it
might
get
dirty
by
like
drinks
or
things
of
you
know,
whatever
might
stain
the
cement
so
just
kind
of
general
upkeep
of
to
keep
the
beautification
going
on.
C
And
lastly,
I'll
say
that
the
in
terms
of
the
things
that
are
special
to
this
plaza.
I
never
noticed
that
hey,
I
had
those
brick
etchings
or
that
mosaic.
But
I
think
I
I
like
history
and
then
so.
C
I
wish
that
there
was
a
way
to
maybe
highlight
or
emphasize
those
little
signs,
and
I
have
no
idea
what
those
signs
mean,
but
if
it
is
relevant
to
the
community
and
the
community's
kind
of
cultural
history,
then
I
wouldn't
want
to
take
that
away,
especially
that
mosaic
was
real
cool,
but
more
so
highlight
why
it
is
there
and
what
it
means
to
to
that
locality.
B
E
D
B
A
Well,
that's
that's
what
I'm
kind
of
thinking
our
low
turnout
might
be.
A
lot
of
people
want
to
enjoy
this
weather
after
kind
of
that
cold
spell.
We
just
got
so.
D
Sorry
to
interrupt
just
to
point
out
with
the
cursor
jp
of
where
those
bronze,
those
bronze
plaques,
are
all
along
this
fence
that
runs
along
the
edge
of
the
upper
site
along
dudley.
Thank
you,
yep.
F
Okay,
my
name
is
kalam
okieta,
I'm
the
director
of
community
relations
and
communication
for
district
7
city
councilor,
tanya
anderson.
F
I
have
a
little
bit
of
history
with
this
site
and
I
used
to
work
with
dsni
and
this
site
actually
used
to
be
owned
by
dsni
at
a
point,
and
I
don't
know
if
they
developed
it
or
if
the
city
developed
it
into
the
cited
today.
I
would
love
to
see
this
site
maintain
the
concept
that
originally
went
into
it
and
be
renovated
so
that
it's
a
little
more
cutting
edge
and
a
little
more
practical
for
what
it
was
meant
to
be
on
one
side.
F
On
the
other
side,
I
feel
like
there's
a
need
for
change.
The
side
with
the
bronze
plaques
was
supposed
to
be
more
like
a
kind
of
like
a
kids
park
play
area,
but
it's
really
way
too
small
for
something
like
that.
F
I
think
it
would
be
really
nice
if
that
area
could
function
more
like.
I
actually
have
this
idea
for
like
space,
so
you
see
a
lot
of
spaces
in
cities
where
there
are
fixed
tables
that
have
a
checkered
pattern,
so
they
could
work
as
game
tables
or
things
like
that.
I've
had
this
idea
for
a
while
to
do
something
similar,
but
with
easels,
so
you
could
have
almost
like
an
art
park
like
the
view
from
there
is.
Is
I
I
feel
like
underappreciated
it?
F
It's
it's
at
a
heightened
level
from
some
of
the
surroundings.
It's.
It
really
is
a
nice
view
of
some
of
that
area,
but
I
feel
like
it
would
be
really
nice
to
have
the
two
complement
each
other.
The
other
area
was
actually
supposed
to
be
a
staging
area.
E
F
Was
meant
designed
to
be
one,
and
I
think
it's
such
a
really
would
be
such
a
wonderful
aspect
of
a
community
space,
especially
with
given
the
location,
a
lot
of
the
things
there
well
so
part
of
what
I
did
when
I
was
working
at
dsni
when
I
found
this
out
and
I
was
like
what
that's
what
they
built
this
space
for,
and
I
had
to
go
straight
over
there
to
look
at
it,
and
I
saw
it
through
such
a
new
lens
because
I'm
like.
Oh
that's,
a
that's
a
stage
like
it's.
F
It
is
a
stage.
This
is
for
seating.
You
know
the
way
that
it
ascends
in
different
increments
or
standing.
So
everybody
could
see
the
stage
and
even
that,
that
purple
structure
at
the
very
top
meant
to.
E
F
Something
with
hoist
lighting
and
sound
equipment
to
it
even
has
power
that
you
could
run
equipment.
You
know
power
equipment
that
you
bring
yourself
to
a
common
little
performance
or
you
know
a
musical
performance
a
play,
but
I
feel
like
it
would
be
such
a
lovely
way
to
create
a
platform
for
for
the
arts
in
boston.
So
especially
this
go
ahead.
I'm
sorry.
D
I
was
going
to
ask
you
know
we
we,
when
we
went
out
there
to
do
our
site
analysis.
We
we
realized
the
same
thing,
that
this
was
designed
for
a
state
with
a
stage
in
mind
with
the
backdrop
and
but
then
we
have
to
ask
the
question
like
why.
D
Why
hasn't
it
functioned
that
way
and
is
it
and
so
that's
what
I'd
ask
all
of
you
that
that
use
the
space
more?
The
bigger
questions
is
like
what
what
made
it
fail
to
the
point
where
people
don't
use
it
that
way,
because
it's
clearly
it
was
designed
for
that
intent.
And
so
what
are?
What
do
you?
What
do
you
all
think
happened.
A
Out
there
well,
I
want
to
interject
really
quick
too,
because
at
least
when
we
were
on
that
site
visit
it,
it
was
somewhat
hard
to
just
hear
one
another.
You
know
speaking
just
because
there's
so
much
volume
of
traffic.
I
wonder
looking
at
the
the
layout
and
what
was
just
recently
built
at
mary
hannon
if
that
at
least
the
stage
performance,
I
think
the
idea
of
like
easel
built-in
easels
is,
is
kind
of
a
really
brilliant
yeah
kind
of
a
beautiful
component
that
I've
never
thought
of.
A
But
I
wonder
if
the
stage
component
and
mary
hannon
is
probably
a
little
bit
better
suited
because
it's
off
of
the
main
it's
a
distance
from
the
main
road
and
it
could
serve
a
larger
group
and
that's
what
I
again
I'll
I'll
defer
to
your
all's
expertise
and
experience
in
the
park.
But
that's
one
of
the
things,
I
wonder,
is
if
it's
just
too
loud
to
be
able
to
do
that
type
of
performance.
There.
F
I
I
actually
totally
agree,
that's
kind
of
a
point
I
was
getting
to,
but
not
necessarily
a
performance
space,
but
to
yes
sr.
How
do
you
say
your
name
brother,
sorry,.
F
Yes,
sir
yasser's
point
setting
it
up
so
that
it's
more
of
like
a
communal
launchpad
that
could
facilitate
lots
of
different
functionalities.
So
the
farmers
market
is
a
really
good
example.
It's
a
perfect
location
for
a
farmers
market.
F
Imagine
if
there
was
if
it
was
laid
out
in
a
way
where
you
kind
of
could
utilize
the
size
and
shape
of
the
space
to
host
multi
a
multitude
of
different
types
of
engagement.
You
know
the
engagement
type
of
space.
I
guess
you
know
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
we
had.
We
did.
We
had
a
music
performance
there
and,
just
like
you,
said
the
buses.
The
cars
just
drowned
the
music
out
almost
entirely,
but
we
also
had
dance
classes
there,
where
we
had
break
dancers,
teach
and
break
dancing
and.
F
On
the
music
you
know,
the
the
volume
level
is
much
different,
like
the
musician
we
had
performing
was
an
acoustic
singer,
and
so
sorry,
my
kids,
are
here
as
well,
so
you're
gonna
hear
a
little
bit
of
white
smile,
but
we
also
did
yoga
at
the
site,
and
that
was
one
of
the
best.
You
know
ways
that
the
site
kind
of
accommodated
something
that
we
tried
to
bring
there.
We
did
it.
We
probably
did
like
12
different
things
there,
but
these
were
some
of
the
ones
that
I
felt
like
really
worked.
Well,.
A
F
Did
a
a
thing
with
the
font
with
a
food
project
where
we
kind
of
had
like
we
did
it
with
the
farmer's
market,
but
I
brought
a
table
and
I
cooked
meals
while
we,
while
the
farmer's
market
was
going
on
to
kind
of
show,
people
like
because
a
lot
of
people
have
a
had
an
aversion
to
vegetables
and
healthy
eating
these
days
and
that's
what
partly
what
you
get
at
a
farmer's
market,
it's
all
fresh
produce.
It's
you
know
from
farm
right
there.
F
You
know,
especially
with
the
food
project,
but
I
was
making
meals
with
the
food
that
they
had
at
the
farmer's
market
and
all
I
had
was
seasoning
and
spices
to
go
with
it,
but
it
just
complime.
They
both
complimented
each
other
really
really.
Well,
I
think
for
me,
like
just
thinking
of
how
art
can
be
so
innovative
and
how
a
space
can
facilitate.
That
is,
is
how
I
would
want
to
see
a
space
come
together
at
this
location,
because
it's
it's
a
it's
a
pretty
decent
sized
space
right
now.
F
12
different
types
of
events
that
could
stay
stationary,
so
you
might
have
to
bring
your
tables
your
maybe
sound
equipment
I
feel
like
even
sound
equipment
built
into
the
space
would
be
kind
of
cool
because,
there's
you
know,
technology
has
advanced
a
lot
as
well
like
when
this
was
built.
F
Sound
equipment,
lighting
equipment
was
nowhere
near
what
it
is
today,
but
also
outdoor
equipment
is,
is
much
much
more
more
robust
and
advanced
than
it
was
at
the
time.
F
Not
necessarily
that,
though,
but
just
different
different
things
we
could
bring
into
the
space
like,
I
said,
to
facilitate
different
types
of
community
engagement.
D
Yeah,
I
think
it's
really
interesting,
because
the
things
that
you're
talking
about
are
what
are:
what
is
the
infrastructure
that's
in
place
that
allows
the
space
to
be
a
a
place?
That's
really
interesting
to
the
different
folks
that
might
want
to
program
it.
So
it's
less
about
you
know
it's
still
about
keeping
the
space
relatively
flexible
and
open,
but
making
sure
that
there
is
a
you
know
that
there's
that
infrastructure
in
place,
so
that
that
events
can
happen.
D
That's
what
I
hear
that's
what
I
hear
you
saying
is
that
it's
really
about
updating
that,
so
people
could
get
excited
about
bringing
the
programming
and
and
from
what
yasser
is
saying.
It's
really
that
it
needs
to
spark.
It
needs
to
spark
investment
in
the
community
investment
in
interest
right
investment,
not
not
in
dollars,
but
in
interest
that
that
someone
would
want.
F
Okay-
and
I
just
want
to
chime
in
one
more
time
tonight
at
this
point
like
I
don't
I
don't
I
feel
like
like
I
said,
art
has
just
come
a
long
way,
creativity's
so
much
different
than
it
used
to
be,
maybe
thinking
of,
and
I
and
actually
to
yasser's
point
as
well,
like
maybe
having
a
survey,
that's
based
around
community
engagement,
so
what
kind
of
community
outdoor
community
engagement
space
do
you
feel
like
would
make
sense
in
this
area?
Or
what
would
you
your
dream
space
be
in
this
area.
F
Kind
of
really
keeping
it
keeping
it
fluid
until
we
start
to
get
some
concepts
that
are
are
feasible,
but
that
really
would
bring
something
rich
to
the
area
that
we
may
not
think
of
ourselves.
So
and
it's
especially
tapping
into
like
there's
such
a
like
eclectic,
creative
community
in
that
area.
I
think
originally,
when
this
was
built,
there
were
more
performers
in
the
area.
There
were
a
lot
more
musicians
in
the
area
and
it
wasn't.
F
There
was
a
call
and
a
need
for
something
like
that
from
what
I
was
told,
I
think
that
it
became
the
noise
actually
from
music
became
a
problem
and
it
started
to
get
used
less
and
less,
which
was
really
interesting
to
me
because.
E
F
Kind
of
feel,
like
that's
a
problem
that
is
a
little
bit
generational
though,
because
the
city's
so
much
noisier
than
it
used
to
be
so
I
think
people's
tolerance,
for
something
like
that
is,
is
not
what
it
was
at
the
time
this
was
built,
but
something
something
that
really
just
speaks
to
creativity.
F
You
know
I
like
to
I'm
an
artist
myself
and
I
like
to
have
creative
spaces,
where
I
have
all
the
tools
for
everything
that
I
might
want
to
do.
Not
everything
that
I
currently
am
doing
so,
like
I
mean
using
myself
as
an
example
here,
but
like
most
of
my
creative
desks
I'll
always
have
a
cutting
board
as
the
at
on
the
top
of
the
entire
surface
of
the
desk.
Just
in
case,
I
want
to
just
do
a
stencil
or
cut
cuts
cardboard.
F
I
already
have
can
move
all
my
stuff
out
of
the
way
and
use
the
desktop
to
cut
off,
of
something
that
just
functions
in
a
way
that
that
more
creates
the
platform
for
people
to
watch
off
of,
and
I
I
personally
would
keep
it
something
creative
or
something
that
facilitates
creativity
and
community,
so
something
that
has
a
you
know:
room
for
growth,
but
tools
for
for
everything.
If
that
makes
sense,
maybe
not
everything,
but
you
know
yeah.
D
Yeah,
it's
diversifying
right.
It's
almost
like
you're
you're
you're,
talking
about
like
an
out
a
maker,
a
maker's
space
park
right
like
an
outdoor
maker
space
like
how
do
you?
How
can
we
furnish
this
thing
in
a
way
that
I
think
it's
a
really
interesting
idea?
I
don't
know
how
that
would
happen,
but
that's.
B
D
The
challenge
right
interesting,
what's.
B
Interesting
also,
you
know
about
the
site,
and
maybe
this
would
be
interesting
to
get
the
farmer's
market
perspective
is
how
much
space
is
actually
used.
Do
you
think
it
seems
like
for
such
a
small
space?
Only
a
fraction
of
it
is
actually
actively
or
used,
as
my
impression
is
there.
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
make
it
feel
bigger?
I
mean
I
don't
know.
Is
that
or
is
that
something
that's
worthwhile?
I
mean
that
could
make
it
more
flexible
and
you
could
have
many
more
people
there.
E
No,
I
think
that
is
a
really
good
question,
because
we
really
do
just
stay
pretty
confined
to
the
the
plaza
level,
like
we
expanded
onto
the
stage
one
time,
but
for
the
most
part
that
remains
empty
and
then
the
grassy
part
in
the
back
also
stays
empty.
E
I
was
kind
of
thinking
like
in
the
spirit
of
like
bringing
art
into
the
space
and
stuff
that
that
back
fence
is
kind
of
like
dark
and
empty,
and
it
might
be
a
cool
place
to
like
feature
a
mural
and
that
might
make
the
backspace
feel
a
bit
more,
welcoming,
maybe
or
just
finding
ways
to
feature
local
artists
in
the
space
would
be
cool.
E
D
I
think
that
when
you
look
at
the
the
lack
of
canopy
mapping,
that's
done
for
the
city
of
boston,
this
neighborhood's
in
dire
need
of
more
shade,
and
I
think
that
for
us
as
landscape
architects,
if
that's
the
case,
then
we
say
like
we
ought.
We
we
absolutely
need
to
get
more
canopy
trees
in
there,
which
I
think
we
we
can
absolutely
do
while
still
making
space
for
this
programming.
D
So
that's
where
we
think
about
like
some
of
these
things
that
we're
saying
like
making
it
a
bigger
space
like
if
the
whole
site
was
more
was
flat
and
was
accessible.
Maybe
you
would
set
up
in
a
different
location,
but
you
don't
really
have
that
choice
right
now,
because
that
you
are
in
the
spot.
That's
got
the
largest
flattest
pavement
that
you
don't
have
to
climb
stairs
to
get
to.
E
Yeah
definitely
also
just
based
on
where
we
can
park
our
van.
It
would
be
like
a
lot
of
carrying
if
we
had
to
if
we
tried
to
set
up
somewhere
else.
Where
do
you?
Where
do
you
park?
We
typically
park
just
a
little
past
the
bus
stop
on
dudley
street,
so
kind
of
level.
With
that
second
yeah
like
right
around
there
we
park,
and
then
we
have
to
carry
stuff
quite
a
ways
and.
C
E
C
And
that
brings
to
the
point
I
wanted
to
speak
about
parking
where,
even
if
folks
again,
as
you
all
know,
it's
a
bustling
space,
those
those
streets,
blue
hill,
ave
and
dudley
and
even
going
down
into
hampton.
C
But
when
folks
see
our
banner
for
like
the
food
project
and
that
there's
a
farmer's
market,
there's
almost
like
no
parking
for
people
to
just
stop
real
quick
and
buy
some
groceries
and
then
like
go
back
to
their
houses
like
either
the
streets
or
either
the
the
available
parking
is
already
being
used
for
other
storefront
storefronts
or
there's
like
on
that
blue
hill
lav
side
facing
our
farmers
market.
C
There's
no
parking
right
there,
so
we
often
have
to
double
park
just
to
or
put
our
hazard
lights
on,
to
to
transfer
the
goods
the
produce
to
the
farmers
market
area,
but
even
that
dudley
street
area.
It's
oh
dudley
street
facing
cement
space.
There's
a
a
bus
pass
way
for
like
half
of
the
way
and
then
the
parking
starts
in
like
the
purple
where
those
purple
boxes
are
and
then
that's
because
it's
limited
parking.
That's
already
kind
of
full
too.
C
A
Yeah-
and
one
thing
we
can
do
is
obviously
the
the
bus
stop.
There
takes
up
a
good
amount
of
the
park
park
edge
with
no
parking.
A
Obviously,
for
that
we
certainly
don't
want
to
lose
actual
park
land
and
we
we
can't
lose
parkland
for
for
cars
or
parking,
but
one
thing
we
can
do
is
try
and
reach
out,
maybe
to
btd,
is
and
try
and
see
if
we
could
do
like,
like
a
permit
access
to
to
have
some
of
those
spots
right
right
beside
you
during
the
time
of
the
farmers
market,
be
reserved
solely
for
that,
and
you
could
put
like
a
cone
up
or
something
like
that.
A
One
thing
I'm
curious
is
to
get
the
the
thoughts
on
the
upper
parcel.
I
know
listening
to
the
the
input
that
initially
was
thought
for
kids
space.
One
of
the
observations
we
had
because
it
it
does,
it
did
at
one
point,
have
a
spray
pad
in
there
with
some
water
jets.
A
Those
have
not
been
operational
for
quite
a
long
time,
just
walking
the
site
and
how
fast
and
how
busy
that
intersection
can
be
with
cars.
Turning
and
everything,
and
then
the
fact
that
there's
no
gates
there
seems
a
little
bit
too
dangerous
to
to
try
and
encourage,
at
least
without
gates.
You
know
little
kids
to
be
running
around
there
just
curious
any.
You
know,
expertise
or
community
knowledge
you
may
have
of.
A
If
there
are
kids
that
actually
do
use
that
space-
or
you
know
the
thought
of
creating
it
more
as
an
art,
art
user
type
would
be
more
desirable
and
we
can
kind
of
move
away
from
the
idea
of
it
as
a
little
kids.
Space.
C
D
C
People
like,
like
youth,
do
use
that
space
whether
to
walk
to
the
the
bus.
Stop
that's
right
on
up
dudley
street
in
the
second
one,
but
as
well
as
it's
it's
like
a
bystander.
C
It's
a
super
good
access
point
to
go
down
into
dudley
street
blue
hill,
ave
or
hampton
street
that
leads
to
malnear
cast
and
then
the
the
highway.
What
I'm
getting
at
is
that
there's
just
families
and
what's
up
to
the
little
one,
there's
a
lot
of
just
families
that
walk
by
and
just
like
either
hang
out
or
get
some
rest
in
that
area.
So
it's
definitely
a
useful
land.
It's
just
not
really
promoted
to
be.
To
do
that,
you
know
it's
like.
C
If
you
go
and
buy
it,
then
you'll
stop
and
use
it
and
maybe
rest,
but
there's
no
emphasis
to
kind
of
like
stay
and
look
at
the
existing
art
or
stay
and
use
those
water
sprinklers.
That
you
said
like
I
feel
like
this.
There
also
needs
to
be
a
conversation
about
outreach
and
how
the
city
can
collaborate
with
local
organizations,
community
centers
churches
and
the
or
mosques
you
know
religious
institutions
etc.
C
C
They
have
the
right
to
stay
in
those
public
areas
and
enjoy
it
for
like
a
nice
day
out
or
to
bring
the
kids
or
something
like
that,
because
there's
also
a
lot
of
residences
right
there
in
the
up
apostle
like
he
was
saying
it's
a
mount
pleasant
and
those
types
of
houses
up
there
that
would
love
to
just
go
back,
go
there
and
use
it
to
hang
out
with
their
kids
or
whatever
it
may
be,
but
as
well
as
like
programming,
organizing
organizational
programs.
These
are
great
areas.
C
Access
points.
Entry
points
to
for
outreach
to
for,
to
you
know
the
bystanders
that
go
through
the
people
that
use
the
mbta
buses
through
the
car
traffic.
It's
just
an
area
that
can
be
utilized
a
lot
better,
whether
for
leisure
or
programming
or
events,
and
it
just
hasn't.
There
has
been
no
emphasis
to
do
that
from
the
city
standpoint
and
then
you
know
continuing
into
our
locality
itself,
where,
if
folks
don't
feel
appreciated,
then
they
they
won't
really
feel
comfortable
in
in
doing
something
in
those
spaces.
If
that
makes
sense,.
D
You
know,
I
think,
that
your
point,
like
from
the
designers
perspective
like
people
whose
job
is
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
re
remake
this
space,
and
what
I
hear
from
you
is
that
you
don't
it's
like
a
really
unclear
kind
of
space.
You
might
stop
there
for
a
little
bit
because
there's
some
trees
and
some
you
know
you
can
get
shade
and
you
can
stop.
D
But
it's
not
very
clear
when
you're
walking
by
what
kind
of
a
space
it
is
like
why
you
would
go
in
there
and
and-
and
I
think
that
that's
our
job
is
to
try
to
figure
out
not
only
like
what
kind
of
a
space
it
should
be
through
community
input
and
figuring
out
the
kind
of
programs
that
could
it
could
sponsor.
But
once
that's
figured
out
like
once,
we
figure
out
what
what
the
goal
is
and
what
we're
trying
to
the
kind
of
things
that
we're
trying
to
make
happen
there.
D
C
Definitely
I
do
want
to
add
that
there's
folks
that
use
that
space
every
day
as
much
as
I
would
want
other
you
know
more
folks
to
engage
in
that
public
space
because,
as
as
my
brother
said,
it
is
kind
of
like
a
theatrical
autistic
space,
but
there
is
people
that
hang
out
there
and
use
the
benches
and
pass
by
that
area
every
day.
So
those
locals
are
important.
Important.
D
C
B
The
key
word
that
I
hear
from
what
we're
saying
and
we're
talking
about
now
is
the
idea
of
comfort,
and
I,
if
we
don't
give
people
visitors
a
reason
to
stay,
they
won't
stay
right
and
if
you
don't
feel
comfortable
you're
not
going
to
stay
long,
and
that
would
be
my
general
that's.
My
general
impression
of
both
sites
is
that
people,
if
they
do
come
and
if
they
don't
come
for
an
unnecessary
reason
like
to
go
to
the
farmers
market.
B
They
don't
stay
long
and
I
think
it's
on
us
to
make
these
places
feel
more
comfortable
and
make
these
places
seem
like
a
place
and
make
them
inviting,
and
that
is
that
challenge
is
is
on
us
and
the
next
meeting
and
the
meeting
after
that,
we'll
we'll
have
more
ideas
and
we'll
throw
out
some
ideas
that
we
can
talk
with
you
all
further
on.
But
that's
just
the
sense
and
my
takeaway
from
this
conversation.
C
And
I
think
there's
not
a
lot
of
lighting
and
I
think
the
lights
cut
off
at
7
pm
and
there's
like
one
at
most
two
light
posts
and
I'm
talking
about
the
the
blue
hilar
dudley
street
possible
to
the
right
and
so
one
if
fo
folks
use
this
together
and
if
we're
trying
to
kind
of
uplift
and
revitalize
this
space
as
a
theatrical
autistic
kind
of
locality,
landmark
type
thing,
then
there
needs
to
be
lighting
on
it
past,
like
6,
7
p.m,
and
people
take
the
bus.
C
You
know
right
there
in
nubian
square
towards
dudley
street
and
all
that
way,
past
7
8
p.m,
especially
during
the
summer.
So
it's
kind
of
like,
if
there's
no
lighting,
to
highlight
that
this
is
open
space
with
a
you
know,
kind
of
with
benches
and
a
theatrical
podium
and
it's
all
dark
after
6
7
p.m.
No
one
will
really
know
about
it.
So
I
think
lighting
is
a
big
thing
as
well.
Well,.
B
A
And
I'm
just
just
to
make
sure
I
understand
so
right
now,
there's
there's
four
light
poles
inside
there
and
then
there's
the
pedestrian
poles
on
the
sidewalks
around
it.
But
you're
saying
the
interior
posts
turn
off
at
seven
o'clock
is
that
is
that
what
your
understanding
is?
I.
A
A
Yeah-
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
run
into
with
lighting
and
parks
is
that
it's
it's
kind
of
a
double-edged
sword
as
you
want
to
activate
it,
but
then
a
lot
of
times,
adjacent
neighbors,
don't
want
activity
happening
too
late,
because
the
later
you
get
sometimes
the
more
kind
of
nefarious
the
activities
can
become.
A
So
my
understanding
is
that
those
lights
are
connected
to
the
street
lighting
system,
which
is
the
pull
the
sidewalk
lights.
So
I
can
look
to
see
if
they're
on
a
different
system
or
or
what
you
know.
What
kind
of
the
history
is
on
that.
But
again
I
don't
think
we'd
be
looking
at
lighting
it
too
late
in
the
evening,
just
because
we
don't
want
to
encourage
necessarily
that
that
negative
activity
happening.
C
C
There's
more
light
people
actually
feel
like.
Oh
I'm
not
going
to
do
something
here,
it's
too
hot
yeah,
so
the
darkness
kind
of
also
brings
those
shadowy
figures
that,
because
it's
dark,
they
think
it's
okay
to
rob.
Somebody
jump
somebody
etc
right
there,
because
there's
no
light
so
they're
like
all
right.
This
is
you
know,
hoodie
on
darkness,
do
my
thing
and
be
out,
but
if
there
was
light,
maybe
that
would
change.
A
Yeah
yeah
well,
and
I
mean
we
could
even
just
again
check
in
on
those
lights
and
how
they're
operating
right.
Now,
if
I
can
see
about
getting
those
on
for
a
little
bit
later
or
something
like
that,
we
can
kind
of
test
even
before
actually
doing
any
construction
to
see.
If
we
can
kind
of
get
that
activation.
D
A
And
I
certainly
I
don't-
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
was
able
to
see
but
alice
posted
several
comments
in
the
chat
yeah
that
her
supervisor
offered
that
they've
been
involved,
since
the
early
2000s
in
the
notion
is
some
sort
of
permanent
signage
for
them.
A
That
can
be
up
throughout
the
I
assume
throughout
the
farmers
market
season,
especially
on
date
non-days
to
let
people
be
aware
of
the
farmers
market
and
then
also
the
idea
of
a
community
bulletin
board
for
that
space
and
then
and
then
sorry,
I'm
scrolling
and
getting
it
all
and
then
also
expanding
the
trash
recycling
and
composting
right
now
we
don't
actually
do
composting
and
we
are
piloting
recycling
and
some
parks.
So
what
we've
been
doing
is
when
we
are
going
back
and
adding
new
trash
barrels,
we're
adding
what
we
call
double
pads.
A
So
the
trash
barrel
goes
in,
but
we're
creating
the
space
so
that,
when
that
pilot
program
goes
into
full
effect,
we
can
start
to
immediately
put
recycle
cans
in
as
well.
A
So
we
can
certainly
look
look
at
one
expanding
excuse
me
expanding
the
track,
the
trash
receptacles,
but
also
making
sure
those
pads
are
adequate
for
future
use.
E
Yeah,
I
think
my
thing
about
compost
was
in
reference
to
I'd.
Seen
from
like
the
office
of
newer
new
urban
mechanics,
I
think
they've
been
rolling
out
this
like
project
oscar,
where
they're
putting
out
some
public
compost
bins,
and
I
just
thought
this
might
be
like
a
useful
space
for
that.
Just
because
probably
a
lot
of
people
might
want
to
compost
and
might
not
have
like
the
contract
to
get
that
picked
up
or
whatnot.
A
A
So
I
got
that
then
just
some
of
the
conversation
about
activation
and
everything
I'm
also
going
to
try
and
reach
out
for
the
city
program,
love
your
block
and
see.
If
we
can
maybe
get
some
connection
there
to
see.
If
that,
if
there's
some
interest
or
engagement,
then
we
can
build
on
the
resources
and
the
skill
set
that
that
group
has
as
well.
C
I
did
want
to
have
one
final
point,
because
kalamu
brought
up
a
great
point
where
I
don't.
I
don't
know
personally
if
this
was
originally
dsn,
island
or
dsni
dni
lands.
C
This,
as
you
all,
probably
know
it's
the
community
land
trust
that
owns
some
process
of
land
around
the
dudley
campus
village,
and
so,
if
it's
not
dsni
land,
I
always
I
wanted
to
bring
up
the
conversation
of.
Would
the
city
be?
C
Would
the
city
be
willing
to
transfer
these
parcels
of
land
into
being
dsni
dni,
because
it's
a
community
land,
trust
of
of
dudley
stream
that
dudley
area
and
in
terms
of
having
a
community
oriented
process
of
how
to
re
redevelop
and
revitalize
this
land,
that
community
land
trust
and
their
local
nonprofit
therein
dudley
street
neighborhood
initiative
has
the
tools
and
resources
to
get
residential
input
in
a
kind
of
in
an
efficient
way
to
actually
get
you
know,
empirical
results
of
what
residents
in
the
area
would
want
out
of
this
land,
and
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up.
C
I
don't
know
if
that's
that's
feasible.
I
don't
know
if
that's
like
a
crazy
idea,
but
I
would
love
if,
if
dsni
or
dni
was
either
a
part
of
this
conversa,
a
part
of
this
conversation
or
if
these
pulses
of
land
can
be
transferred
to
that
community
land
trust,
because
that
would
be
really
showing
that
you
know
this
is
resident
owned.
This
is
public
space
for
the
residents
and
then
we
want
the
residents
to
shape
how
we
program.
How
do
we
revitalize
what
type
of
architecture
is
needed?
C
You
know
parking,
lights,
etc,
because
I
don't
want
to
be
the
gatekeeper
of
all
of
the
ideas.
I
know.
There's
neighbors
fan
families,
especially
multi-generational
that
have
their
own
historical,
local
knowledge
about
about
their
community's
identity,
and
that
should
play
a
part
in
how
this
these
particles
are
developed.
A
Certainly
so
I
can
tell
you
right
now,
all
both
parcels
and
and
in
the
entirety,
our
city
of
boston,
owned.
There
is
state
legislation
that
bars
that
transfer
of
that
public
land,
especially
parkland
out
to
non-public
land,
so
that
that's
not
something
we'd
be
looking
at
or
feasibly
can
can
achieve.
I
have
reached
out
to
dsni
I've
been
in
contact
with
their.
A
I
can't
remember
exactly
the
title,
but
the
outreach
and
engagement
person
in
their
organization,
so
so
they
they
they
will
and
are
involved
in
this
process.
I'm
going
to
see
if
I
can
touch
base
with
them
to
see
how
we
could
get
better
turnout
at
this
type
of
event.
A
If
maybe
I
can
do
a
presentation
with
them
to
at
least
again
again
what
I've
found
in
this
neighbor
and
in
this
area
is
sometimes
I
have
to
piggyback
just
like
on
your
farmers
market
or
an
event
that
they're
doing
and
utilize
kind
of
their
their
strengths
and
their
their
pull
with
the
community
to
get
that
engagement.
So
I'm
going
to
be
in
conversations
with
them
and
that's
my
daughter
going
to
the
bathroom.
A
So
so
I'm
going
to
be
in
in
contact
with
them
to
see
how
we
can
work
as
a
partnership
to
ensure
that
that
input
and
that
engagement
and
that
owner's
sense
of
ownership
is,
is
instilled
in
this
process.
But
those
are
all
excellent
points
and-
and
honestly,
that's
that's-
you
know
from
both
the
designer
standpoint
and
the
city
then
parks
to
stamp
standpoint.
That's
when
our
projects
are
the
most
successful
is
when,
when
this
input,
the
the
the
guidance
and
and
the
final
product
is
directed
by
the
community.
D
I
think
that,
just
from
our
end,
we
thank
you
so
much
for
participating
and
giving
us
your
feedback
tonight,
and
we
hope
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
meet
you
in
person,
maybe
at
the
farmers
market
to
be
able
to
distribute
more
information
and
talk
to
a
bunch
of
people
and
get
out
there
now
that
the
weather's
getting
warmer,
that's
a
that's
a
more
viable
option
for
everybody.
I
think
so.
We're
excited
for
that.
F
May
ask
what's
the
timeline
for
this
look
like.
A
Sure
so,
right
now
this
was
our
community
meeting
one.
I
think
we're
I'm
gonna,
do
some
additional
outreach
to
try
and
expand
kind
of
the
the
level
that
we
got
from
this
one.
A
But
we
were
anticipating
meeting
two
on
well
we're
not
interested
meeting
number
two
is
scheduled
for
april
20th,
and
then
we
anticipate
the
third
meeting
being
scheduled
for
the
middle
of
june,
which
is
right
around
when
the
farmers
market
returns
to
the
site,
I'm
going
to
be
having
a
conversation
with
dsni
and
see,
if
maybe
we
should,
if
they
have
another
event
or
something
that
we
could
potentially
piggyback
on.
A
So
those
dates
may
change
a
little
bit,
but
following
that
june,
if
we've
gotten
a
good
amount
of
engagement,
we
feel
like
we
have
a
good
direction
to
go.
A
The
design
team
will
work
on
construction
documents,
put
that
out
for
bid
this
this
summer
and
anticipate
construction
starting.
This
fall
with
the
full
opening
happening
in
the
spring,
and-
and
I
I
know
you
were
traveling
when
we
had
that
slide
up,
but
and
we
anticipate
about
a
hundred
eight
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
in
construction
money
which
again,
I
I
think
per
your
point.
A
The
park
has
a
lot
of
really
kind
of
unique
and
cultural
components
already,
so
we're
not
looking
at
you
know,
blowing
the
whole
thing
up
and
starting
from
scratch.
Our
budget
doesn't
allow
for
that
anyways,
but
I
think
we
want
to
build
on
a
lot
of
the
the
key
components
and,
and
the
reason
why
these
these
were
built
in
in
the
both
the
historical
but
the
cultural
components
that
were
involved
in
that
process.
F
Just
just
a
little
side
note
the
music
notes
on
the
site.
I
think
it
was
a
song
there
for
but
their
foreign
actual
song
that
they
kind
of
selected
the
site
yeah.
F
Hidden
jam,
if
you
look
at
that
site,
a
lot
of
creativity
went
into
it.
You
know
I
feel
like,
as
the
city
evolved,
that
just
became
less
and
less
of
a
priority,
but.
D
You
know
if
it's
not
significant
right
now
to
somebody
if
it
was
significant
to
somebody
in
the
past.
We
would
love
to
understand
that,
because
to
us,
when
we
you
know,
that's
why
we
want
to
do
this
outreach,
because
we
want
to
understand
that
because
it
could
very
well
be
because
there's
plenty
of
parks
that
are
of
that
era
that
had
things
that
were
imposed
on
them
that
are
were
not
necessarily
from
a
grassroots
community.
Up
kind
of
think.
You
know
think
tank
it
was.
D
It
was
something
that
was
that
someone
somewhere
thought
would
be
interesting,
and
so
they
they
they
put
it
on
the
site.
So
it
would
be
great
to
understand
more
about
how
the
site
is
today
and
how
it
came
to
be,
and
you
know
think
about
some
of
the
little
murals
and
the
the
art
pieces
that
are
up
on
the
northern
side,
and
our
assumption
is
that
it
was
done
through
some
kind
of
a
community
engagement
process
that
people
were
making
those
mosaics
and
other
things
we're.
Not
it's
not
totally
clear.
D
You
know,
there's
no
signage,
there's
no,
there's
no
story
there.
That
tells
us
how
those
things
came
to
be,
and
so,
if
we
can
figure
that
out,
we
would
love
to
actually
be
able
to
make
that
part
of
the
the
site
so
that
everybody
who
comes
there
can
understand
why
things
are
the
way
that
they
are
and-
and
that's
a
yasser's
point
earlier,
like
he'd
like
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
why
things
are
there
and
maybe
you
know
called
attention
to
these
things
rather
than
it
just
kind
of
being
backdrop.
F
I
was
going
to
suggest
a
good
person
to
talk
to
about
the
history
of
the
site
would
be
jose
barros.
He
worked
for
dsni
he's
been
he's
been
involved
with
the
kind
of
fundamental
conception
of
dsni
from
the
beginning,
but
he
worked
with
dsni
for
over
30
years.
A
Still
reach
out
to
him
yeah,
I
think
you're,
right
and
and
to
that
point
I
actually
did
reach
out
to
some
previous
park
employees
that
were
involved
when
it
went
back
in
the
90s
when
it
was
renovated
in
the
southern
portion,
at
least
in
the
in
the
70s.
A
I
think
it
was
was
a
public
works
parking
lot
which
actually
had
a
gap
like
a
gas
refueling
parking
station,
and
when
I
first
saw
that
that
was
a
huge
red
flag
to
me,
because
at
the
mary
hannon
playground
that
had
had
a
gas
station
there
and
the
it
ended
up
having
an
aul,
which
is
a
massive
environmental
restriction
on
what
you
can
do
on
sites.
A
So
I
had
to
kind
of
explore
and
go
down
that
rabbit
hole
to
find
out
that
that
had
been
removed
and
all
is
documented
for
that
removal,
but
that
it
was
after
that
was
removed.
Then
it
was
transferred
to
the
parks
department
which
initiated
the
development
in
the
90s
of
that
what
I'm
curious
as
because
there
there
had
been
like
a
rolling
maintenance,
cam
program
at
that
time,
period
to
and
like
repaint,
and
keep
the
the
structures
in
in
high
like
a
high
standard.
A
I'm
just
curious
just
looking
at
those
now
and
you
know,
do
we
feel
that
those
components
are
kind
of
like
sacred
to
the
space
that
they
couldn't
be
altered
or
per
the
comment
that
you
had
earlier
about.
You
know
really
kind
of
still
holding
on
to
that
cultural
thing,
but
also
giving
it
a
fresh
new
kind
of
more
modern.
Look
to
it.
Just
wondering
the
thoughts
that
you
might
have
on
that.
F
Personally,
that's
what
I
would
like
to
see
like
I
mean
I
keep
saying
this,
but
you
know
even
materials
have
advanced
a
lot.
You
know,
so
this
site
was
built
with
all
the
right
intentions.
A
lot
of
the
materials
are
dated.
You
know.
F
Even
if,
even
if
you
revamp
the
site
to
be
what
it
was
meant
to
be,
I
think
that
it
would
really
address
a
lot
of
these
issues,
and
you
know
when
you
walk
into
the
site.
You
don't
really
see
what
it's
for
anymore,
but
imagine
if,
if
the
site
was
renovated
in
a
way
that
really
emphasized
all
those
components
and
complemented
them
versus
steering
it
in
a
different
direction.
A
F
Feel
like
that,
even
the
way
the
site
is
laid
out
now,
there's
so
many
there's
so
few
changes
that
you
would
need
to
make
to
accommodate
something
different.
So
like.
F
Yeah
with.
F
F
F
How
could
we
add
to
that
versus
trying
to
reinvent
the
wheel,
because
that's
not
a
huge
budget
first
space
that
big
and
it's
in
the
fact
that
it's
two
different
spaces
you
know
shrinks
the
budget
even
more
some
of
the
stuff?
That's
there
could
also
stay
and
just
be
organized
in
a
better
way
like
the
bench
with
the
globe.
That's
such
a
beautiful
piece,
but
it
doesn't
stand
out.
F
And
I
I
think
the
biggest
thing
that
space
needs
a
little
bit
of
vibrancy
concrete,
doesn't
really
speak
to
anybody.
It's
not
a
language.
Anybody
really
wants
to
understand
that
either.
A
F
What
is
this
all
about
the
other
side,
with
the
mosaics
and
some
of
those
creative
elements,
it
makes
you
kind
of
wonder
what
was
what
was
what's
the
history
behind
this,
even
if
you
sat
there
for
a
few
minutes
really
maybe
trying
to
kind
of
think
of
think
of
it
more
as
a
monument
and
a
gathering
space
versus
just
a
space
and
thinking
that,
in
practical
terms,
about
the
ability
space
provides,
could
be
a
good
starting
point
to
think
about
where
we
could
build
that
space
up
into
something
unique.
F
Something
innovative,
I
feel
like
innovative,
should
be
the
goal,
because
space
right
now
is
used
in
so
few
ways,
and
if
you
look
at
what's
happening
in
a
lot
of
other
cities
and
around
the
world
like
there's
so
many
different
ways
that
we
could
conceptualize
this,
like
that,
we
don't
even
have
to
think
of.
We
could
just
look
around
and
see
what
see
what
the
rest
of
the
world
was
doing
creatively
to
make
use
of
space,
and
that
could
give
us
all
the
ideas.
F
We
need
to
really
think
about
the
geography,
this
the
actual
square
footage
what's
possible,
what's
not,
and
just
how
to
spark
creativity
and
bring
people
together
in
a
way
that
is
going
to
be
meaningful.
A
A
Yeah,
I
do
just
want
to
make
you
aware
that
the
parcel
right
behind
the
the
globe
bench
currently
does
have
a
a
proposal
to
be
developed
that
I
think
just
just
for
your.
You
know
the
counselor's
office
and
you
to
be
aware
of
that.
I
think
that's
in
bpda
right
now.
F
Is
this
where
the
it's
kind
of
like
a
parking
lot,
ish
type
of.
A
Yeah
we
yeah,
we
have,
it
has
the
retaining
wall
which
holds
up
our
park
and
then
below.
That
is
that
it's
got
like
construction
debris
and
stuff
like
that
in
there
right
now,
but
yeah.
I
think.
A
Yeah
I'll
I'll,
I
can
send
it
I'll.
Send
you
the
bpda
link
about
that
just
to
make
make
sure
that
your
office
is
aware
of
that.
A
Wow,
okay.
Well
again,
I
appreciate
all
the
feedback.
We
will
be
posting
this
on
the
project
website,
which
was
posted
in
the
chat
a
little
bit
ago.
I
think
christine
can
can
post
on
again
if
she's
able
to
bless
you,
I'm
gonna
work
on
some
more
engagement
and
and
try
and
get
some
more
voices
to
the
table,
but
I
can't
even
begin
to
say
how
how
grateful
we
are
for
the
input
we've
already
got.
A
It's
it's
all
been
incredibly
insightful
and
helpful,
and
I
will
I
have
everybody's
email,
since
you
registered
for
the
meeting.
What
I'm
going
to
be
doing
is,
rather
than
holding
exactly
true
to
that,
that
april
20th
meeting
I'm
going
to
circle
the
wagons
and
and
have
a
little
bit
of
an
outreach
engagement
and
see
how
we
can
make
sure
the
next
meeting
gets
it's
even
more
attendance
and
more
involvement.
A
So
you
should
be
seeing
emails
about
that
from
me
as
well.
A
It's
the
community's
park
so
any
way
we
can,
we
can
make
that
more
successful
is
a
win
for
everybody
involved.
So
with
that,
unless
there's
any
last
less
comments,
anybody
wants
to
make
I'll.
Let
you
get
to
your
your
families
in
your
evening.