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From YouTube: Burbank City Council Meeting - August 9, 2022
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Burbank City Council Meeting - August 9, 2022
B
A
C
We
appreciate
all
attendees
joining
us
in
person
for
wearing
a
for
wearing
a
face
covering
while
they
are
inside
the
council
chamber.
I
would
like
to
invite
community
assistance
coordinator
bob
cramer
to
lead
us
in
the
invocation
this
evening.
Will
everyone
please
stand
and
remain
standing
for
the
flag
salute.
D
C
F
C
Thank
you.
We
would
like
to
advise
the
community
that
there
will
be
one
period
of
public
comment
tonight.
Members
of
the
public
may
com
comment
comment
in
person
or
by
telephone
during
the
general
public
comment
period
on
any
matter
concerning
city,
business
and
or
any
agenda
item.
If
you'd
like
to
participate
in
general
public
comment
over
the
phone,
please
call
now
at
818-238-3333.
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Callers
will
be
placed
in
a
queue
until
all
in-person
comments
have
been
received
tonight.
Castle
will
be
adjourning
in
memory
of
former
los
angeles
dodgers,
sportscaster
vincent
edward
scully,
a
local
legend
who
passed
away
on
august,
2nd
2022
at
the
age
of
94.,
vincent
edward
scully,
most
commonly
known
as
vince
gully
was
born
in
new
york
on
november
29
1927
at
the
young
age
of
22.
C
vin's
love
of
baseball
was
evident
in
his
enthusiastic
way
of
bringing
each
moment
of
the
game
to
life
for
listeners.
He
was
an
icon
in
the
world
of
sports
broadcasting,
known
for
his
genuine
enthusiasm
and
passion
for
baseball,
with
his
voice
being
considered
part
of
the
soundtrack
of
summer.
In
la
we
will
miss
hearing
his
signature
opening
it's
time
for
dodger
baseball,
vince
kelly
was
a
true
legend.
C
He
will
be
remembered
for
his
love
for
the
game
of
baseball
respect
for
his
fans
and
his
commitment
to
his
faith
and
family
on
behalf
of
the
city
council
and
the
entire
burbank
community.
Our
thoughts
and
prayers
go
out
to
all
who
were
touched
by
the
life
of
vince
gully
in
honor
of
vince
scully
city
hall
and
the
burbank
water
and
power
ron.
Davis,
administration
building
will
be
lit
in
blue
this
evening
and,
as
an
aside,
I
was
fortunate.
C
H
Following
our
announcements
for
august
9
2022,
the
november
8
2022
city
of
burbank,
general
municipal
election
nomination
period
open
on
monday
july
18th
at
8
a.m
and
closes
on
friday
august
12th.
At
5
pm.
The
nomination
period
will
see
candidates
to
fill
three
offices
for
a
member
of
the
city
council,
one
office
of
the
city,
clerk
and
one
office
of
the
city,
treasurer
for
a
full,
four-year
term
ending
on
december
14.
2026..
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The
requirements
for
candidates
for
elective
offices
of
the
city
are
as
follows:
a
united
states
citizen
at
least
18
years
of
age,
a
resident
of
the
city
of
burbank
for
at
least
29
days
prior
to
filing
nomination
papers
and
a
registered
voter
in
the
city
of
burbank.
At
the
time
of
nomination,
qualified
individuals
may
contact
the
burbank
city
clerk's
office
at
818-238-5851.
H
During
normal
office
hours
monday
through
friday,
between
the
hours
of
8
a.m
and
5
pm,
if
an
incumbent
does
not
file
by
the
deadline,
the
nomination
period
will
be
extended
until
wednesday
august
17
2022
at
5
pm
for
candidates
other
than
an
incumbent
for
that
seat.
Only
the
burbank
city
clerk's
office
is
accepting
applications
for
one
vacancy
on
the
burbank
watering
power
board
for
an
unexpired
term
ending
july
31st
2026.
H
The
deadline
to
submit
an
application
is
wednesday
september
7th
at
5
pm.
If
interested
apply
online
at
burbankca.gov
forward,
slash,
bcc
application,
vaccination
proof
or
medical
religious
exemption
will
be
required
of
all
applicants
for
more
information.
Please
contact
the
burbank
city
clerk's
office
at
818-238-5851.
H
The
burbank
city
clerk's
office
is
accepting
applications
for
one
vacancy
on
the
police
commission
for
an
unexpired
term
ending
july
31st
2025..
The
deadline
to
submit
an
application
is
thursday
august
18th
at
5
pm.
If
interested
apply
online
at
burbankca.gov
forward,
slash,
bcc
application,
vaccination
proof
or
medical
religious
exemption
will
be
required
of
all
applicants
for
more
information.
Please
contact
the
burbank
city
clerk's
office
at
818-238-5851.
H
H
I
J
J
J
J
J
The
reason
for
this,
and
let's
go
on
to
the
next
slide,
is
that
we
have
an
issue,
or
I
shouldn't
say
we.
A
metropolitan
water
district,
has
an
issue
with
the
pipe
that
brings
water
in
from
the
colorado
river
and
during
this
pipe
sprung
a
leak
back
in
april
a
temporary
fix
was
put
into
place
and
that
fix
is
not
holding.
J
J
They
will
come
during
the
time
that
they
are
doing
that
repair.
We
will
only
be
able
to
receive
water
from
our
second
source,
and
that
is
the
state
water
project.
So,
on
this
little
diagram,
we've
got
a
picture
of
the
colorado
river
going
through
the
grand
canyon
and
that's
where
the
leak
is,
and
then
we've
got
another
picture
showing
water
coming
in
from
the
state
water
project.
J
We
are
currently
not
taking
water
from
the
state
water
project,
because
water
levels
there
are
so
low.
There
are
six
communities
in
metropolitan
water
district
that
are
fully
dependent
on
state
water.
Those
communities
are
already
at
one
day
a
week.
Watering
all
of
us
will
need
to
be
pulling
water
from
the
state
water
project,
all
26
communities
during
this
time
period.
K
J
Oh
thank
you
for
the
question.
Councilmember
schultz.
Yes,
there
was
a
program
called
h2o
to
go
where
people
could
pick
up
recycled
water.
The
program
had
quite
a
bit
of
difficulty
when
it
was
in
place.
However,
we
are
looking
into
putting
in
a
two-week
pilot
for
these
two
weeks
to
see
if
we
can
make
that
work
again,
and
so
that
would
enable
citizens
to
come
and
pick
up
water
recycled
water
in
which
there
aren't
limitations
that
they
could
then
use
on
their
lawn.
We
do
encourage
people
also
during
this
time
to
collect
water
and
cisterns.
J
We
have
rebates
for
those
to
collect
water
in
the
shower
in
buckets
that
they,
you
know
the
water
that
would
normally
be
going
down
the
drain
that
people
can
use
to
water,
their
lawn,
etc,
or
you
know
the
water
when
you're
waiting
for
your
water
to
heat
up
the
heated
water
to
come
out
of
the
faucet.
You
know
capture
that
and
use
that
as
well.
C
J
Thank
you
for
that
question
as
well,
so
we
are
currently
under
enforcement,
and
so
for
people
who
are
not
watering
just
on
the
watering
days
just
on
tuesdays
and
saturdays
those
customers.
We
have
two
ways
of
finding
that
out.
One
is
if
other
customers
tell
us
about
that,
in
which
case
we
can
follow
up,
and
then
we
also
can
look
at
our
data
and
where
we've
got
active
data
that
shows
daily
usage.
C
C
L
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation
on
on
one
of
the
slides.
I
think
it
said
that
we
would
be
100
reliable
on
the
state
water
project,
but
not
really
right,
because
we
can't
take
any
water
out
of
it,
because
there
are
six
cities
that
that
they
only
get
water
from
there.
So
so
will
we
take
water
from
the
state
water
project
or
will
we
take
it
from
storage.
J
Oh,
thank
you
excellent
question.
We
will
be
taking
water
from
the
state
water
project
so
for
this
two
week
period,
those
six
cities
will
be
sharing
it
with
all
of
the
rest
of
the
city.
So
all
of
us,
including
those
six
cities,
will
go
to
zero
watering
days
in
order
to
maximize
the
use
of
that
water.
We
do
have
about
four
days
of
full
use
storage
in
our
system.
J
G
J
L
J
Yes,
it
just
puts
a
little
bit
more
strain
on
the
state
water
project,
and
so
as
soon
as
these
repairs
are
complete,
we
will
go
back
off
state
water
project,
water
and
right
back
onto
colorado
water
today,
because
of
the
leak.
The
capacity
in
that
line
in
the
line
from
the
colorado
river
is
diminished,
so
normally
it
would
be
750
cubic
feet
per
second
and
they
are
only
putting
in
525
cubic
feet
per
second
right
now,
so
we
do
need
to
get
that
repaired
so
that
colorado,
river
water
can
be
back
up
at
full
capacity.
J
C
J
C
C
There
was
something
that
I
brought
up
to
council
back
then
six
seven
years
ago,
because
I
saw
it
when
I
was,
I
was
in
palm
springs
and
they
were
using
it
out
for
the
farms
and
I'm
thinking
why
can't
we
use
that
we
have
a
lot
of
recycled
water
in
burbank,
so
I
brought
back,
we
had
a
discussion
and
it
happened.
I
didn't
hear
about
the
problems
that
you're
mentioning,
but
it
seemed
to
me
it
was
working
fine
anyway.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that.
C
M
It's
been
15
years
that
I've
been
on
trustee
with
the
board
and
I'm
continually
impressed
with
the
public
health
work
that
the
district
does
and
tonight
we're
going
to
have
two
department
managers
here,
steve
vetron
with
the
scientific
technical
services
and
mary,
jo
coburn,
will
give
most
of
the
presentation
she's
a
director
of
community
affairs.
Thank
you.
C
N
Good
evening,
okay,
all
right
good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members-
thank
you
for
having
me
here.
I
was
here
last
year
actually
and
gave
a
more
comprehensive
presentation
about
vector
control
and
dr
wassum
has
been
doing
an
amazing
job.
Giving
you
updates
sounds
like
his
last
presentation.
There
were
some
questions
regarding
a
new
technique
that
we
are
looking
into,
so
I'm
here
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
but
I'm
also
going
to
give
a
brief
overview
about
the
other
things
that
we
have
talked
about
in
case.
N
N
So
this
map
right
here
shows
you
the
work
that
has
been
done
in
the
city
of
burbank.
In
the
past
two
years,
we've
had
nearly
2
000,
residential
and
public
inspections,
811
unabandoned
or
abandoned
or
unmaintained
swimming
pools,
and
a
little
over
1
000
inspections
for
underground
storm
drains.
So
that's
a
lot
of
work,
and
this
is
a
really
good
map
that
showcases
all
the
different
places
that
we
have
been
to
and
will
continue
to
keep
you
updated
on
the
work
and
the
service.
That's
been
done
in
the
city
next
slide.
N
Why
care
about
mosquitoes
or
mosquitoes
are
the
deadliest
animal
in
the
world?
There
are
over
700
thousand
fatalities
each
year
from
mosquitoes.
Mosquitoes
are
capable
of
transmitting
diseases
like
west
nile
virus,
zika
dengue,
and
it
only
takes
one
disease
to
cause
an
outbreak.
So
that
is
something
that
we
are
carefully
watching
and
making
sure
to
prevent
next
slide
for
the
mosquito
life
cycle.
N
So
there
are
two
mosquitoes
that
we
are
very
concerned
about
in
southern
california
and
they
are
present
in
the
city
of
burbank.
The
first
one
is
the
brown
mosquito
that
we
call
the
culex
mosquito
they've
been
around
and
they've
been
transmitting
west
nile
virus,
since
2003
in
la
the
other
mosquito
that
we
are
concerned
about
is
fairly
new,
although
it's
been
here
for
a
few
years
now
it
is
invasive
80s
mosquitoes.
N
These
mosquitoes
are
capable
of
transmitting
other
diseases
like
chikungunya
zika,
dengue,
yellow
fever
next
slide,
and
you
can
click
okay.
So
this
this
is
another
diagram
of
what
is
going
on
in
southern
california,
and
it's
broken
down
into
what's
going
on
in
california,
in
our
jurisdiction,
as
well
as
the
city
of
burbank.
So
you
can
see
the
different
progressions
through
the
year.
Some
years
are
a
lot
of
activities.
N
Some
years
there
have
not
been
particularly
in
the
city
of
burbank,
we
had
nine
positive
mosquito
samples
found
in
2020,
whereas
in
2021,
and
currently
we
have
had
zero.
So
that's
important
to
note,
though,
because
we
don't
want
the
residents
to
have
this
false
sense
of
safety
or
security
that
there's
no
west
nile
virus
in
burbank,
so
we're
good.
N
N
N
However,
the
risk
is,
if
someone
travels
overseas
in
an
area
where
there
is
an
active
transmission,
they
come
back
because
they're
bitten,
they
are
viremic.
The
local
mosquitoes
that
are
now
here
could
bite
them
and
if
those
mosquitoes
bite
other
people,
we
could
have
an
outbreak
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
prevent
next
slide.
N
So
before
we
start
talking
about
the
actual
method
of
control,
let's
first
address
what
the
new
challenges
are
in
controlling
the
ace
invasive
80s
mosquitoes.
These
mosquitoes
have
been
around
in
2011
in
our
jurisdiction.
They
are
aggressive
daytime
biters
we've
had
a
lot
of
residents,
tell
us,
I
haven't
been
bitten
before,
but
now
I'm
experiencing
them
and
I'm
getting
bitten
during
the
day.
These
mosquitoes
prefer
to
breed
in
smaller
sources
such
as
flower
pot,
saucers
yard,
drains
and
water
holding
plants
plants
like
bromeliad
or
agave.
That
can't
have
like
these
leaf
axles.
N
They
can
hold
water
and
people
normally
don't
think
like
that.
They
think
just
containers,
so
they
get
rid
of
that.
But
there
are
breeding
in
in
plants
themselves.
These
mosquitos
ability
to
lay
eggs
in
multiple
and
small
sources
make
them
difficult
to
control.
One
big
challenge
for
vector
control
is
gaining
access
to
the
small
sources
that
are
in
people's
properties.
N
There
are
over
a
million
properties
in
our
jurisdiction.
We
can't
get
into
all
of
them
so
with
this
next
slide.
Okay,
so
you
can
see
in
the
diagram
there,
the
blue
dots
on
the
right.
It
started
in
south
el
monte
and
progressively
through
the
years
it
started
to
go
throughout
the
jurisdiction,
and
now
it's
all
over
greater
la
with
a
spread
of
invasive
80s
in
l.a
county
residents.
Quality
of
life
has
changed
in
how
they
enjoy
the
outdoors.
N
In
many
cases,
residents
experience
multiple
bites
in
the
short
period
of
time,
while
in
their
backyards
or
outside.
This
is
due
to
these
mosquitoes
being
aggressive
biters
and
they
prefer
to
feed
on
people.
The
other
mosquitoes
prefer
to
feed
on
birds,
but
these
mosquitoes
prefer
to
feed
on
people
next
slide
with
the
impact
of
invasive
80s
on
residents
and
the
diseases
they
can
carry.
The
district
is
looking
at
newer
technology
on
how
to
control
these
mosquitoes
sit
or
sterile
insect
technique
is
one
method
of
control.
N
Sit
is
a
non-chemical
control
method
that
uses
sterilization
sterilizing
the
males
to
help
control
the
mosquito
populations.
How
does
it
work?
A
system
is
used
to
sterilize
the
male
mosquitoes
in
a
lab.
The
mosquitoes
are
then
released
to
specific
area
over
a
period
of
time
and
when
these
sterilized
males
mate
with
the
female
mosquitoes,
the
eggs
or
the
offspring
did
not
survive
in
adulthood.
Reducing
the
mosquito
population,
it's
important
to
note
that
the
sit
specific
to
controlling
one
species
of
mosquitoes,
the
mosquito
that
we
are
concerned
about
are
the
aedes
aegypti
mosquito
and
these
the.
N
So
now
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
three
techniques
that
are
currently
available
and
what
we
are
reviewing
so
the
first
one
next
slide,
please
is
called
wolbachia,
so
obakia
uses
a
bacteria
that
is
injected
into
the
mosquito
eggs.
The
mosquitoes
are
then
sorted
and
the
male
mosquitoes
are
raised
into
adults.
The
male
mosquitoes
are
released
into
specific
area
to
mate,
with
the
females
and
because,
because
of
the
bacteria,
the
offspring
eggs
will
not
develop.
N
N
N
N
Then
the
offspring
die
before
they
reach
adulthood
next
slide.
So
it's
important
to
note
that
only
female
mosquitoes
bite,
as
I've
mentioned
so
what's
being
released
in
these
techniques,
are
the
male
mosquitoes
that
do
not
bite.
They
do
not
spread
diseases,
but
they
have
been
sterilized
so
that
when
they
mate
with
the
female
mosquitoes
they
do
not
produce
offspring
and
they
cannot
transmit
diseases.
N
N
What
can
residents
do
to
protect
themselves
from
mosquitoes?
There
are
a
number
of
ways.
One
is
to
empty
scrub
turn
over
cover
throughout
any
items
that
hold
water
tip
out
any
standing
water
indoors
and
outdoors
as
I've
mentioned,
mosquitoes
need
about
five
to
seven
days
to
complete
their
life
cycle,
so
we
need
to
eliminate
the
mosquitoes
or,
if
they
need
to
have
you
know
a
bin
that
holds
toys
or
something
we
normally
find,
that
in
people's
homes,
drill
a
hole
at
the
bottom
of
the
container
so
that
the
water
drains.
N
So
we
do
have
you
just
click
a
couple
more
times.
Thank
you.
We
do
have
a
do-it-yourself
solutions,
page
sorry
go
back
there,
we
go,
they
can
download
at
tiptosticaction.org
and
we
have
compiled
a
list
of
all
the
common
breeding
sources
around
the
home
and
it's
separated
into
you
know
the
kitchen,
the
backyard,
the
bathroom
and
the
the
recommendations
and
how
the
residents
can
eliminate
or
remove
the
standing
water
or
breeding
on
their
property.
So
please
download
that
if
they
can't
figure
it
out,
they
can
always
call
us
as
well
next
slide.
N
N
N
So
we
continue
to
keep
the
the
community
alert
we
post
on
next
door
on
social
media.
We
also
send
out
press
releases
and
we're
continually
communicating
with
the
with
the
city
staff
to
let
them
know
if
there
is
a
threat,
immediate
threat.
In
the
city
next
slide
so
just
to
highlight,
I
did
cover
a
lot:
remove
standing
water
tip
out
containers,
wear
insect,
repellent
and
share
the
information
with
their
friends
and
neighbors,
go
to
tiptostateaction.org
for
more
information
next
slide,
and
this
is
our
agency
contact.
N
C
G
N
I
mean
we
know
that
they
are
present,
it
could
be
that
you
and
your
neighbors
are
eliminating
standing
water,
and
so
you
know
there
is
a
reduction
in
your
area.
We
do
know
that
august
september
is
also
the
height
of
a
lot
of
the
activity,
so
we
could
just
be
entering
it
right
now
and
we're
not
quite
there.
Yet,
let's
hope
it's
the
first
one.
N
The
ankle
biters
are
the
invasive
80s
mosquito,
the
black
and
white
mosquito.
We
call
them
ankle
biters
because
they
like
they
tend
to
bite
in
the
lower
extremities
which
actually
exposes
our
pet.
So
that
was
a
really
good
question.
Thanks
for
bringing
that
up,
these
mosquitoes
are
also
capable
of
transmitting
canine
heartworm
door
to
our
pet,
so
they
they
tend
to
be
in
the
lower
extremities
because
they're
very
smart.
They
know
that
if
they
fly
up
here
we
can
easily
kill
them,
so
they
fly
down
there.
N
L
N
So
there
are
different
species
of
invasive
80s
mosquitoes,
so
there
is
the
asian
tiger
mosquito
and
then
there's
also
the
west
nile
virus
or
the
I'm
sorry.
The
day
the
invasive
80's
was
good.
The
black
and
white
mosquito
was.
This
is
the
same.
Those
are
all
the
the
invasive
aedes
mosquitoes
they're
black
and
white,
and
they
also
call
them
zebra
mosquitoes
because
they're
black
and
white
or
ankle
biters.
So
they
have
multiple
nicknames.
Okay,.
C
N
N
N
N
N
The
good
thing
is,
we
do
alert
the
residents,
you
know
hey,
summertime
is
coming
up,
there's
gonna
be
mosquitoes
around,
please
maintain
your
swimming
pool
and
they
have
to
take
a
photo
of
the
current
status
of
their
swimming
pool,
along
with
the
alert
that
we
send
them
and
once
they
send
that
to
us,
and
we
can
see
that
either
the
swimming
pool
has
been
filled
or
it's
been
fixed.
Then
we
remove
them
from
our
list.
N
So
there
are
different
things.
Sometimes
we
do
a
flyover
in
some
areas
which
a
plane
does
you
know
we
don't
look
at
anything
else
in
the
backyard
aside
from
the
swimming
pool
to
see
if
it's
green,
if
it's
green,
then
then
it's
marked
that
it's
a
potential
public
health
issue.
We've
also
had
neighbors
call
us
saying:
you
know
they
can
report
anonymously
and
say:
hey,
there's
a
green
pool
in
our
neighborhood.
N
N
Our
inspectors
are
very
quick,
especially
because
this
is
a
public
health
issue.
As
soon
as
we
get
a
notification,
they
normally
get
it
and
they
normally
go
within
24
to
72
hours,
usually
at
the
24
like
really
quick,
but
sometimes
it
depends
on
what
the
volume
of
calls
that
they
already
have
on
their
queue.
C
C
C
The
second
presentation
is
an
update
from
the
valley
economic
alliance,
regarding
collaborations
with
the
city
of
burbank
and
resources
for
economic
development.
I
welcome
sonia
k.
Blake
welcome,
miss
blake
president
chief
executive
officer
of
the
valley
economic
alliance,
welcome,
miss
blake
and
mary.
P
Good
afternoon
actually
good
evening
council,
they
are
telemontes
and
council
members,
mary
hamzoyan
economic
development
manager
for
the
city
of
burbank.
I'm
actually
going
to
do
the
honors
of
introducing
miss
blake
to
you
before
she
begins
her
presentation,
and
so
I
would
like
to
it
is
my
pleasure
to
introduce
to
you
sonya,
blake,
president
and
ceo
of
the
valley
economic
alliance,
who
will
be
providing
an
update
to
you
tonight
regarding
the
accomplishments
of
the
alliance
and
the
ongoing
collaboration
with
the
economic
development
team.
P
Some
of
the
alliance's
accomplishments
include
successfully
advocating
for
the
establishment
of
the
san
fernando
valley
as
a
geographic
region
for
the
u.s
census,
tracts
assisting
more
than
forty
four
thousand
valley
businesses
to
remain
and
expand,
saving
and
creating.
Almost
twenty
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
jobs,
recruiting
training
and
placing
over
ten
thousand
adults
to
meet
business
needs.
Prior
to
her
leadership
of
the
alliance,
miss
blake
served
as
the
director
of
the
community
business
in
los
angeles
mayor
eric
garcetti's
office
of
economic
development.
Welcome
welcomes
blake.
Q
Okay?
Okay,
certainly,
I
also
would
like
to
really
acknowledge
city
of
bank
staff
and
the
public
for
their
attentiveness
to
the
presentation,
so
the
valley
economic
alliance.
We
have
been
very
much
at
work
and
super
excited
about
the
work
that
we've
been
able
to
do
with
city
of
burbank
as
one
of
our
partners
next
slide,
please
some
of
the
activities
that
we
have
undertaken
as
part
of
advancing
our
mission
to
engage
and
unite
valley
stakeholders
and
raise
the
standard
of
living
in
our
communities.
Q
We
have
about
160
000
businesses,
2
million
residents,
that
we
are
serving
within
a
350
square
mile
area
and
burbank
is
one
of
the
distinguished
five
cities
that
the
alliance
is
proud
to
partner
with
what
we
do
is
we
promote
business
retention,
job
creation,
workforce
development,
as
well
as
tourism
attraction
among
other
strategies,
to
help
bolster
our
local
economy
next
slide.
Please
and
we
enjoy
a
fantastic
leadership,
strong
leadership
from
burbank
leaders
and
we're
very
thankful
to
have
burbank
vice
mayor
constantine,
anthony
on
our
board
of
directors
as
well
as
council
member
nick
schultz.
Q
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
leadership
and
frank
miller
who
runs
the
burbank
glendale
pasadena
airport,
as
well
as
we
have
a
full
board
of
83
members.
However,
these
burbank
leaders
are
well
represented
on
our
board
of
directors
as
part
of
our
governance,
our
accountability,
our
leadership,
and
we
are
very
thankful
for
your
vision
and
your
support
next
slide.
Q
In
addition
to
the
leadership
of
our
board
of
directors,
we
enjoy
a
very
strong
and
fruitful
relationship
with
burbank's
economic
development
leadership
and
we
are
actively
engaged
in
several
initiatives,
including
having
a
burbank
representative
as
an
active
member
of
our
economic
development
committee,
as
well
as
a
founding
member
of
our
regional
cities,
economic
development
teams,
roundtable.
So
all
five
of
our
city,
economic
development
teams
come
together
and
talk
about
how
we
can
collaborate
as
a
region,
and
the
alliance
is
at
the
center
of
convening
and
facilitating
those
meetings.
Q
As
you
well
know,
the
pandemic
has
had
a
devastating
impact
on
many
of
our
small
businesses,
our
local
small
businesses,
and
so
the
alliance
moved
into
swift
action
in
partnership
with
city
of
burbank
to
help
companies
increase
their
revenues
through
various
educational
programs
such
as
digital
marketing,
procurement
and
contracting.
How
can
companies
help
bolster
their
revenues
during
this
economic
downturn?
Q
We
help
them
to
access
capital,
so
many
businesses,
particularly
low-income
businesses,
disadvantaged
businesses,
are,
are
dramatically
under-capitalized
and
lack
some
of
the
opportunities
unless
we
help
them
with
that.
So
we
have
publicized
burbanks
pro
emergency
programs,
as
well
as
other
cities
and
federal
and
state
programs
to
help
companies
connect
with
loans,
grants
and
other
types
of
assistance.
Q
We
help
companies
to
find
qualified
employees
as
well.
As
you
may
know,
the
pandemic
has
dramatically
disrupted
our
labor
markets
and
we're
helping
companies
to
connect
with
the
talented
staff
that
they
need
to
help
them
stay
in
business
and
to
grow
and
thrive,
which
serves
the
double
purpose
of
helping
job
seekers
to
find
and
connect
with
job
training
to
upskill
and
command
higher
salaries
during
these
difficult
times,
as
well
as
finding
those
job
opportunities
and
then
fifth
and
finally,
we
help
companies
to
identify
locations
in
our
region
where
they
can
locate.
Q
So
toward
that
end
in
recent
years,
the
alignments
has
helped
about
1700
participants
to
get
access
to
educational
information,
and
we
have
facilitated
the
deployment
of
1.3
million
dollars
in
capital
to
157
local
small
businesses,
retaining
141
jobs
next
slide.
So
how
does
that
impact
the
city
of
burbank?
You
might
wonder:
we've
been
working
with
75
burbank
businesses
and
and
constituents
with
educational
webinars
we've
been
doing
a
one-on-one
coaching
and
consulting
program
with
about
10
burbank
small
businesses,
minority-owned
businesses,
women-owned
businesses,
various
companies
that
come
to
us
for
that
kind
of
assistance.
Q
Q
We've
recently
helped
a
burbank
sports
entertainment
company
to
connect
with
traditional
commercial
lenders
and
understand
the
distinctions
between
that
type
of
lending
and
alternative
lending,
which
offers
some
more
additional
flexibility,
as
well
as
other
companies
that
you
can
see
that
we
have
been
connecting
with.
We
really
touch
all
industries,
all
kinds
of
companies
that
may
need
assistance,
but
that's
not
all
next
slide.
Please.
Q
This
past
year,
we've
really
partnered
very
aggressively
with
featuring
speakers
from
burbank
there's
such
a
wealth
of
knowledge
in
the
city
and
thought
leaders
that
really
need
to
be
shared
with
the
city
with
the
region.
So
we
have
hosted
speakers.
For
example,
from
avion
burbank
to
talk
about
the
commercial
real
estate-
that's
available,
so
that
companies
might
know
of
the
opportunities
for
locating
there.
Q
We
featured
economic
development
manager,
harry
mariham
hamzoyan
in
one
of
our
economic
development
committee
meetings
to
do
a
spotlight
on
the
city
of
burbank,
and
she
made
a
phenomenal
presentation
on
the
benefits
of
locating
in
burbank,
some
of
the
programs
and
assistance
that
have
been
provided
to
burbank
businesses,
some
of
the
tourism
programs
and
many
of
the
business
attraction
initiatives
that
are
taking
place
in
the
city.
So
it
was
a
great
way
for
the
broader
region
to
really
learn
about
what's
happening
here.
The
replay
and
the
slides
are
available
on
our
website
as
well.
Q
Please
and
speaking
of
great
times,
there's
always
the
valley
of
the
stars:
annual
gala,
our
24th
annual
gala,
where
mayor
talamantes
was
present,
as
well
as
our
board
members,
nick
schultz
and
constantine
anthony,
and
we
were
so
very
thrilled
to
hold
the
gala
in
the
city
of
burbank.
For
the
first
time
in
memory
we
had
360
guests
at
the
castaway
burbank
people
were
admiring
the
beautiful
views
and
the
wonderful
service
and
food,
and
many
of
our
guests,
which
were
sponsors.
Q
Individuals
of
means
from
around
the
valley
were
just
so
impressed
with
what's
happening
in
the
city
of
burbank
and
we're
very
excited
to
think
about
how
they
can
be
more
involved
and
next
slide.
Please
we
also,
you
know,
we
take
the
opportunity
to
engage
in
collaborative
communication.
City
of
burbank
has
so
many
wonderful
ways
to
access
businesses
and
many
wonderful
programs
like
tech
talks,
tourism
programs
etc.
Q
So
we
feature
burbank
fairly
frequently
in
our
newsletter,
which
we
distribute
widely
and
we
do
recaps
of
programs
where
burbank
is
featured,
and
then
we
do
a
digital
tourism
campaigns.
Talking
about
some
of
the
wonderful
restaurants
here
and
destinations
and
amenities
that
folks
might
want
to
learn
about
and
and
take
part
in,
the
alliance
is
very
interested
in
further
establishing
the
san
fernando
valley
region
as
a
global
tech
hub
and
with
burbank's
landmark
work
in
that
area,
we're
natural
and
fast
partners
in
bringing
that
about.
Q
Q
In
that
regard,
we
are
looking
at
how
we
can
really
stir
urban
revitalization
in
any
underinvested
areas
of
our
region
and
help
attract
developers
to
really
look
at
vacant
parcels
and
create
the
highest
best
use
and
job
creating
and
housing
creating
purposes
for
those.
So
we're
very
thankful
to
be
partners
with
such
a
great
city
and
we're
looking
forward
to
the
year
ahead
at
your
service.
So,
thank
you
so
much
and
are
there
any
questions
for
us.
C
Q
Q
G
Miss
blake,
I
I
want
to
give
you
a
public
acknowledgement
to
say.
Thank
you.
If
you
remember
you
and
I
had
a
pretty
tough
conversation
back
in
2020
when
I
was
the
mayor,
because
I
was
questioning
the
expenditure
not
personally,
but
I
was
asking
what
are
the
benefits
for
the
amount
of
money
that
the
taxpayers
are
paying
for
the
city
and
the
council
to
be
a
part
of
it
and
you
had
just
taken
over.
You
said
bob,
please
be
honest
with
me
and
I
explained
my
concerns
for
the
amount
of
money.
G
I
didn't
see
anything
in
return
prior
to
your
leadership
position,
and
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
you
publicly,
because
everything
we've
talked
about
in
2020.
You
took
it
to
heart
and
you
did
not
give
me
lip
service.
You
gave
me
a
really
good
conversation.
You
took
notes
to
now
when
I'm
reviewing
your
report
and
listening
to
you
very
closely.
It
took
me
back
to
2020
when
I
was
a
vice
mayor
and
you
had
just
taken
that
position
and
I
expressed
to
you
burbank,
isn't
getting
anything
at
that
time.
G
Q
Wow,
thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
that
very
much
and
I
just
acknowledged
the
whole
team
that
that
helped
to
make
that
happen,
including
the
city
of
burbank's,
own
economic
development,
team
and
our
board
of
directors.
So
thank
you
bob.
I
appreciate
that.
I
appreciate
your
candor
in
the
beginning,
which
enabled
us
with
the
data
we
needed
the
feedback
we
needed
to
make
some
change
and
we're
just
getting
started.
So,
let's
keep
it
going.
L
Customer
springer,
yes,
thank
you,
miss
blake
for
your
presentation,
it's
very
nice
to
see
you
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
you.
You
noted
housing
as
a
part
of
the
the
alliance
valley,
economic
alliance,
moving
forward
that
you
would
explore
that.
Do
you
have
an
idea
of
what
you'll
do
or
you're
in
the
formulation
process.
Q
Yes,
so
thank
you
so
much
for
the
question.
It's
so
wonderful
to
to
see
you,
and
so
the
alliance
has
four
initiative
committees
that
work
on
different
issues.
There's
economic
development,
workforce
development
to
help
job
seekers
find
their
way
livable
and
sustainable
communities
and
promoting
the
valley
so
for
livable
and
sustainable
communities.
Housing
is
really
at
the
core
of
that.
Q
So
we've
been
able
to
do
various
facebook
campaigns
and
get
people
thinking
about
it,
because
so
often
there's
opposition
to
housing
near
us,
so
we're
trying
to
help
our
residents
understand
the
need
for
housing
and
that
they
can
be
supportive
of
the
development
of
housing.
So
that's
one
of
the
ways
where
we
are
partnering
with
the
various
cities
to
come
alongside
and
augment
and
get
people
to
smooth
the
way
and
show
their
support
for
housing.
Q
So
we
look
forward
to
continuing
to
get
the
word
out
in
that
way
and
we've
also
been
partnering
with
hope
of
the
valley
to
get
the
word
out
about
their
programs,
their
tiny
homes
and
their
homeless
housing
solutions
and
featuring
their
work.
So
that
folks
can
understand
what's
happening
here
at
the
valley,
is
landmark
and
we're
doing
some
groundbreaking
work
in
that
in.
E
K
I
also
wanted
to
mention
it
was
a
pleasure
having
the
gala
of
the
of
the
stars
right
here
at
castaway
in
burbank,
and
I
would
encourage
you
and
I'll
keep
mentioning
it
in
private
and
certainly
at
board
meetings.
I'd
love
to
see
more
events
come
to
burbank
because
we
have
a
lot
to
offer
and
we
love
to
showcase
what
we
have
to
offer
as
a
community.
My
only
question
was,
I
believe
you
were
talking
with
councilmember
springer
about
our
housing
builds
communities
initiative.
K
Q
Oh
certainly
so
they
can
visit
our
website
at
the
valley.net
housing
and
they
can
learn
about
ways
that
they
can
get
involved
and
be
supportive
and
even
register
their
support
so
that
there
can
be
a
ground
well
groundswell
of
support
for
housing.
Thanks
so
much
for
the
question,
we
welcome
people
to
do
that.
Thank.
E
C
R
Yes
good
evening,
mr
mayor
members
of
the
city
council
city
council,
met
in
closed
session
this
evening
to
discuss
one
item
of
anticipated
litigation.
Pursuant
to
government
code,
section
54,
956,
956.9
d4
city
council
voted
unanimous
unanimously,
with
vice
mayor
constantine,
anthony
absent
to
retain
special
counsel
and
to
initiate
litigation
against
the
manufacturers
of
pfas
pfas
chemicals.
C
C
Now
is
the
time
for
general
public
comment
for
members
of
the
public
who
are
here
in
person
and
wish
to
speak.
Please
present
a
completed,
yellow
general
public
comment
card
to
the
city
clerk.
Any
person,
speaking
during
general
public
comment,
may
address
the
council
on
any
matter
concerning
city,
business
and
or
any
agenda
item
comments
are
limited
to
three
minutes
per
person.
In
order
to
promote
a
fairness.
C
C
C
S
S
S
I'm
hoping
a
reporter
will
hear
my
voice
and
look
into
these
very
serious
allegations
against
the
mayor
and
his
character.
I'm
hoping
that
the
police
department
will
call
me-
and
you
know
I
told
you-
I
played
a
recording
of
him
being
accused
of
inappropriate
activity
with
an
underage
boy
and
I've
since
learned
that
that
boy's
name
is
brandon
and
he
the
vice
mayor,
picked
this
boy
up
at
a
homeless,
shelter,
and
I
think
that
there's
a
very
good
chance
that
this
case
could
be
solved.
S
S
This
ten-year-old
son
is
reporting
as
a
punishment.
His
father,
the
vice
mayor,
has
him
standing
up
against
the
wall
with
his
nose
against
the
wall.
Inside
a
circle
on
his
tippy
toes
now
I'm
a
father,
I've
got
four
children
and
I
would
never
do
something
like
that
to
my
children.
I
would
consider
that
torture.
S
This
is
a
serious
allegation
and
it
would
not
surprise
me
if
it
has
not
been
looked
into
by
child
protective
services,
cps
and
the
police
department,
I'm
sure,
probably
I'm
sure
they
paid
a
visit
to
his
apartment,
because
it
is
such
a
serious
allegation.
This
this
child
wrote
a
letter
and
the
letter
begins
with.
S
I
don't
deserve
to
be
here.
Okay,
this
is
somebody
that
you're
talking
about
promoting
to
the
position
of
mayor
here
in
our
city.
Now,
when
the
vice
mayor
heard
about
this
letter,
he
ordered
it
destroyed,
but
the
letter
was
not
destroyed
and
I've
made
you
copies
of
it.
So
you
can
read
the
letter
for
yourself
and
I've
asked
the
city
clerk
to
make
it
public
and
anybody
else
who
wants
to
read
this
letter
can
look
at
it
as
well.
S
T
Good
evening
the
mayor
council
members,
I
gotta
go
fast.
Okay,
first
of
all,
I'm
hoping
you'll
appoint
simon
ehrlich
to
the
planning
board.
I
think
he'll
be
thorough
and
dedicated
to
the
position
and
I
think
he's
the
most
qualified
amongst
them
all.
I
also
want
to
thank
captain,
crimins
and
lieutenant
former
for
reaching
out
to
me
over
the
issue
I
emailed
you
all
on.
I
had
a
great
conversation
with
captain
kremens.
T
T
They
got
three
huge
semi
containers
that
they
put
water
in
called
rain
for
hire,
so
I'm
hoping
that
they'll
be
as
stringent
with
their
water
during
this
time
as
they're
asking
the
residents
to
be,
and
I
cornered
miss
lindell
out
in
the
hall,
because
jess
you're
right
on,
we
need
to
get
the
manhattan
project
on
reclaimed
water
in
this
community.
Forget
the
library
forget
the
civic
center
water
is
life
or
death
for
this
community.
We
need
to
get
reclaimed
water
into
our
system.
T
We
need
to
be
able
to
blend
it,
we're
already
purifying
the
chromium-6
out
of
our
drinking
water.
So
what's
a
little
bit
of
sewage
water
going
into
our
our
blend,
so
I
think
we're
wasting
a
precious
opportunity
within
our
community.
I
know
orange
county
has
overcome
their
you,
their
problems
using
reclaimed
water.
T
So
I
think
it's
really
really
something
and
I'm
actually
looking
on
facebook
marketplace,
I'm
going
to
buy
one
of
those
275
gallon
two
of
them,
so
I
can
put
one
in
my
truck
and
then
transfer
it
into
the
one
in
my
yard
and
put
a
hose
in
there.
So
I
can
just
water,
my
plants
and
I
was
going
to
fill
my
pool,
but
miss
lindell
told
me
it's
not
potable,
so
I'm
not
going
to
be
doing
that,
even
though
it
doesn't
scare
me,
the
water
is
pretty
darn
clean.
U
I
was
actually
interested
in
applying
and
I
decided
not
to
because
I'm
attending
community
college
right
now
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
dedicate
you
know
enough
of
my
time
to
do
a
good
service,
and
I
came
to
the
conclusion
I
wasn't
able
to
that
said.
I
just
wanted
to
encourage
you
all
to
whoever
is
appointed
to
keep
in
mind
that
I
think
there
are
a
few
important
points
they
should
be
in
support
of
intelligent
application
of
density.
U
U
V
Good
evening,
mayor
telemance,
council
and
staff,
I'm
wearing
my
zanta
hat
right
now,
so
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know-
and
I'm
sure
most
of
you
do
know-
that
the
us
department
of
justice
has
declared
human
trafficking
as
the
fastest
growing
criminal
enterprise
in
this
country.
California,
has
the
third
highest
rate
of
human
trafficking
in
the
nation.
V
The
zonda
club
of
burbank,
which
is
a
member
of
zanta
international,
which
is
a
103
year
old
organization,
which
was
formed
to
empower
women
and
girls
through
its
many
clubs
in
the
world.
It's
been
involved
in
the
anti-human
trafficking
campaign
for
more
than
30
years.
In
order
to
stop
this
heinous
crime,
the
state
of
california
passed
several
bills
which
the
governor
has
signed.
V
V
The
zanta
club
of
burbank
members
have
been
actively
involved
in
the
poster
compliance
movement
in
the
city
of
los
angeles,
visiting
hotels
and
motels
in
various
los
angeles
districts.
I
know
burbank
is
aware
of
this
and
it's
high
time
to
move
this
along.
My
church
is
making
this
a
priority.
So
my
question
is:
why
isn't
burbank
and
why
is
the
city
dragging
its
feet
and
as
we
know
that
the
pandemic
has
created
such
a
horrible
situation
with
sexploitation
of
children
because
they
are
behind
a
computer
screen?
V
They
have
their
cell
phones
and
their
parents
are
not
always
watching
what
they're,
what
they're
actually
involved
with
and
who
they're
involved
with.
On
the
other
end
of
that
screen,
so
hopefully
we
will
be
moving
along
with
this,
and
we
have
a
whole
plan.
When
you
need
advice,
we
have
zonta
club
of
burbank
members
who
would
gladly
help
you
in
this
process.
Thank
you.
C
W
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
and
council
members,
my
name
is
simon
early
campbell
and
I'm
applying
for
the
open
position
on
the
planning
board,
land
and
permitting
issues
can
be
contentious.
It
is
extremely
important
to
me
that
everyone
is
treated
equally
under
the
law
and
that
the
law
is
followed,
irrespective
of
my
own
or
anyone's
feeling
about
it.
W
I
have
had
serious
disagreements
with
members
of
our
staff
since
becoming
active
in
our
local
government,
but
I
am
a
person
that
can
work
professionally
and
objectively.
Should
you
see
fit
to
appoint
me
in
fact,
four
years
ago
I
was
denied
an
appeal
involving
the
building
of
a
new
house
across
the
street
from
our
family
home.
W
I
strive
to
be
a
person
that
is
magnanimous
and
fair
in
my
dealings,
although
at
the
time
I
thought
I
was
presenting
the
matter
in
a
certain
light,
the
board
expressed
a
serious
concern
that
I
had
cast
aspersions
on
the
entire
cdd
staff.
It's
come
to
my
attention
that
this
might
still
be
a
valid
concern.
W
These
emails
I
have
for
you
are
dated
three
days
after
the
appeal
and
our
personal
individual
apologies
to
the
frontline
staff
that
handled
the
matter
beyond
taking
me
at
my
word.
I
hope
these
letters
document
that
it
is
extremely
important
to
me
to
be
civil
and
respectful,
and
it
bothered
me
that
my
presentation
was
received
in
the
way
that
it
was.
I
agree
with
bob
from
earlier
that
it's
important
to
go
beyond
paying
lip
service
to
this
and
to
see
it
all
the
way
through.
W
Just
additionally
on
that
matter,
I'd
also
recently
heard
there's
a
rumor
going
around
that
there's
some
kind
of
litigation
from
me
involving
this
matter
with
the
city.
This
is
not
correct.
The
last
correspondence
with
the
city
involved
the
copy
and
paste
whole
letter
to
preserve
documents
in
the
matter,
but
for
a
complaint
with
the
state
of
california
board
of
professional
engineers
and
not
the
city,
I
can
see
how
a
person
might
be
concerned.
W
Please
know
that
I
don't
think
it
presents
a
conflict
of
interest,
and
that
is
a
state
level
issue
outside
of
the
planning
board's
purview.
If
the
council
needs
clarification
for
the
appointment,
I
have
10
copies
of
the
whole
letter
for
distribution
during
that
report.
If
it's
the
council's
pleasure
as
far
as
policy
goes,
you
can
see
a
number
of
my
proposals
in
my
application.
W
I
hope
we
can
advance
or
discuss
my
idea
to
promote
deed,
restricted,
low
and
middle
income
units
beyond
the
state
minimum
when
built
in
conjunction
with
for
sale
units
in
mixed
used
projects
that
exceed
the
current
state
minimums,
where
the
city
offers
first
in
first
out
service
to
all
those
projects.
Anytime,
such
a
matter
is
needed
for
inspections
or
for
approval.
W
I'm
happy
to
discuss
that
or
answer
questions
about
it.
I
will
stay
through
the
appointment
report
in
case
you
have
any
questions
for
me
or
any
clarification
on
any
subject.
This
is
too
short
a
time
to
talk
about
all
of
it
and,
speaking
of
that,
as
a
side
note,
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
the
loss
of
some
of
our
public
speaking
time.
So,
if
there's
a
way
to
give
people
a
chance
to
respond
to
things
that
happen
at
a
meeting,
I
hope
you
guys
will
bring
some
of
that
back
in
the
future.
W
C
X
I
also
wanted
to
thank
sonya
blake
and
the
valley
economic
alliance
for
their
report
and
lastly,
I
just
have
to
say
you
know
there
is
no
10
year
old
in
the
history
of
10
year
olds
that
thinks
that
they
deserve
their
punishment,
so
consequences
must
be
taken,
and
I
encourage
everyone
to
make
sure
that
they
lead
with
compassion
but
when
in
their
parenting
and
in
the
work
that
they
do
every
single
day.
Thanks
guys
and
I'll
see
you
guys
in
a
couple
weeks,
when
I
get
back
home,
bye.
C
G
I
I
Great,
so,
okay,
so
yeah,
he
was
going
to
take
ownership
of
that,
but
we
did
have
that
request
come
from
councilmember
schultz,
a
while
back,
I
believe
when
misalis
was
here
at
a
prior
meeting,
bringing
up
the
the
issue,
and
so
it
is
something
that
we
owe.
I
think
at
this
point.
It's
a
workload
issue.
That's
not
an
excuse,
it's
just
the
truth
and
that
will
take
resources.
But
we
will
come
back
with
a
with
a
report
to
the
council
to
talk
about
that
in
the
future.
C
K
R
R
K
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
sir.
I
appreciate
that
and
then
the
other
comment
I
would
just
have
is
for
mr
hamill
not
related
to
agenda
item
four,
but
with
regards
to
your
comment
about
the
importance
of
public
comment,
I
agree
with
you,
sir.
Notwithstanding
what
may
out
be
out
there?
I
think
we
all
every
one
of
us
agree
on
the
importance
of
public
comment,
and
I
do
have
a
new
agenda
item
that
I
will
be
raising
at
the
end
of
this
meeting.
Related
to
that.
Thank
you,
sir.
C
You
know
it's.
I
don't
feel
that
I
know
more
than
anybody
else.
I've
been
learning
through
the
whole,
this
whole
process
on
council,
so
it's
not
my
way
or
the
highway.
If
you
have
some
ideas
and
I
buy
into
it,
let's
go
so
be
it,
but
there's
people
out
there
that
if
you
don't
go
with
their
ideas,
you're
wrong,
and
I
don't
agree
to
that-
I
don't
agree
with
that
whatsoever,
so
you
get
the
sense
of
where
I'm
going
with
that.
I
C
I
C
F
K
E
C
Y
Y
Y
Y
Since
that
time,
an
interdepartmental
staff
team
has
engaged
with
consultants
to
consider
that
question
and
in
september,
we'll
be
bringing
you
an
update
on
our
specific
ideas
for
the
burbank
civic
center
tonight.
What
we
want
to
do
is
focus
on
providing
you
a
baseline
of
understanding
about
the
proposed
model
for
bringing
the
civic
center
to
reality.
Y
Y
Y
This
was
followed
by
some
cosmetic
upgrades
in
the
early
1990s
about
10
years
later,
in
2003,
the
community
development
department
developed
a
civic
center
plan
that
included
a
new
and
a
new
and
expanded
central
library,
modernized
staff,
office
spaces
and
open
space.
The
only
element
of
that
concept
to
be
completed
was
the
community
services
building
in
2008.
Y
a
few
other
attempts
to
move
the
library
project
forward
in
the
following
decades
also
did
not
result
in
success.
So
if
we
fast
forward
now
to
2020
for
the
first
time
in
20
years,
we
conducted
a
comprehensive
study
about
the
central
library
needs
the
vision
for
a
new
burbank
central
library
study
involved.
An
assessment
of
community
needs
priorities
for
use
of
space
and
estimated
costs
for
that
building.
Y
C
Z
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
elizabeth
mayor,
talamontes,
council.
I'm
pleased
to
be
here
to
be
speaking
to
you
about
this.
This
topic.
As
elizabeth
said,
my
name
is
orion
fulton,
I'm
an
associate
principal
at
arap
and
we're
the
consultants
on
this
civic
center
project
we're
going
to
cover
quite
a
bit
of
information.
I
hope
it's
useful
to
you.
I
think
we're
going
to
do
the
presentation
first
and
then
take
questions,
but
if
there's
any
quick
clarifications
you
need
please
by
all
means.
Stop
me
so
first
question
is
you
know
why?
Z
Z
Z
The
other
issue
is
that
it
is
hard
business,
maintaining
these
assets
over
over
the
long
haul,
and
it's
it's
very
easy
to
ignore
these
issues
because
they
don't
crop
up
overnight.
You
know
a
roof
will
leak,
but
sometimes
issues
will
linger
for
5-10
years
and
you're
able
to
keep
going
through
band-aids,
but
then
at
some
point,
you're
faced
with
wow
the
the
asset
needs
replacement
and
we
need
to
do
it
sooner
than
later.
Z
What
p3s
aim
to
do
is
take
the
total
cost
of
ownership,
the
total
lifetime
of
this
asset
and
try
to
think
about
cost
throughout
that
entire
period.
Not
just
how
do
I
manage
to
get
my
first
costs
under
my
budget,
not
realizing
that
you
might
be
setting
yourself
up
for
more
investment
later
that
you're?
Z
Not
planning
for-
and
you
ask
a
private
party
to
come
in
and
work
with
you
as
a
partner
to
try
to
optimize
those
costs,
so
you
make
trade-offs
between
what
will
cost
you
today
and
what
might
it
cost
you
tomorrow
and
how
do
you
know
that
that
entire
package
is
best
value
to
to
to
you
as
the
owner
p3s
use
performance-based
contracting?
This
is
all
these
concepts
we're
going
to
talk
about
in
a
little
bit
more
specificity
in
the
presentation.
Z
Z
Z
So
hopefully
everything
on
this
slide
that
I've
just
told
you
you
will
understand
and
be
able
to
to
tell
me
at
the
end
of
the
session
so
quickly
a
little
bit
about
the
types
of
p3s
on
the
slide.
Here
you
see
toll
roads,
you
see
the
long
beach
courthouse,
you
see,
uc
merced
and
you
see
hudson
yards
project
in
in
new
york.
All
examples
of
of
p3s
a
lot
of
p3s
are
basically
they
they
they're
self-sustaining.
Z
They
make
sense
you
can
you
can
capture
toll
revenue
in
a
in
a
stream
that
is
able
to
then
repay
whatever
debt
or
or
financing
you
use
to
build
that
bridges
toll
roads
are
a
great
example
of
that
other
times.
P3S
are
more
based
on
a
service
you
get
from
the
developer
and
the
owner
pays
for
the
availability
of
that
asset.
So
it's
not
linked
to
revenue
collection.
It's
linked
to
a
commitment
to
pay
a
certain
amount
if
the
facility
is
available
and
so
like
the
long
beach
courthouse
the
long
beach
civic
center
uc
merced.
Z
There
are
other
types
of
examples
that
you
may
think
of
right,
so
within
energy
or
water
production,
property
development
projects
like
stadiums,
airport
terminals,
even
affordable
housing
has
a
component
of
private
development.
Using
you
know,
public
authority
to
build
and
or
financing
from
from,
the
the
public,
sometimes
the
public
is
also
or
the
owner
is
lending.
You
know
it's
basically
its
credit
to
the
project
as
as
the
as
the
payer
of
the
of
the
payments
to
the
developer.
Z
Z
Really
you
have
delivery.
These
are
project
delivery
models
that
are
focused
on
first
costs,
getting
projects
built,
design
and
construction
on
the
far
right.
You
have
examples
of
where
it's
effectively
private
industry,
that
it's
somebody
that's
design,
designing,
building,
owning
and
maintaining
an
asset
like
a
power
plant
or
something
would
be
an
example
of
that
and
it
might
be
on
it
might
be
on
public
land
through
some
type
of
lease
agreement.
Z
Z
Notably
the
project
where
there's
project
financing,
as
I
said,
the
developer,
secures
that
and
that's
a
really
important
element
we'll
talk
more
about.
They
effectively
set
up
a
special
purpose
entity,
an
llc
or
something
that
manages
and
runs
the
project
and
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
and
in
almost
all
cases,
ownership
re
remains
with
the
public
owner.
So
none
of
this
is
none
of
these
p3s
are
privatization
or
full
concessions.
That
kind
of
thing
you
you
are
you
maintain
ownership
in
in
almost
all
circumstances.
Z
In
the
united
states
and
california,
design
bid
build
is
our
most
common
form
of
procurement.
We
design
the
project.
We
then
go
out
to
tender
and
we
ask
for
bids
from
contractors.
They
give
us
their
best
price.
Typically,
you
select
the
lowest
price,
which
is
not
always
best
value,
but
you
select
the
lowest
price
and
the
financing
of
the
project,
if
there
is
any,
is
some
type
of
municipal
bond
for
a
public
project
and
then,
once
that
project
is
built,
the
maintenance
and
operation
are
handled
by
the
by
the
public
owner.
Z
Z
You-
know
the
multitude
of
change
orders
that
are
occurring
on
a
project.
These
are
the
sorts
of
things
that
are
almost
taken
for
granted
in
the
design
bid
build
process
when
the
projects
are
small
and
they're
made
they're
manageable
or
not
very
complex.
It's
not
usually
an
issue.
Projects
can
still
be
delivered
on
time
and
on
schedule
and
there's
lots
of
professional
staff
and
consultants
that
can
do
that
when
projects
become
major
projects
when
they
get
complex,
especially
the
really
big
infrastructure
projects,
things
get
complicated
schedules
slip.
Z
To
do
some
of
the
things
I've
talked
about
to
align
the
incentives
of
the
parties
to
create
contractual
obligations.
You
know
performance
performance
based
contracting
to
hit
schedule.
You
know
schedule
milestones
to
not
go
over
budget
to
maintain
the
facility
at
a
certain
condition
over
time
and
it
can't
drop,
and
a
third
party
can
actually
look
at
that
and
opine
on
that.
Z
Z
I'm
going
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
on
this
slide.
You
have
it
in
front
of
you,
but
this
is
important
because
it
starts
to
get
at
the
essence
of
the
relationships
in
a
p3
and
how
risk
is
transferred
and
who's
on
the
hook
for
what
so
starting
at
the
top.
That's
let's
say
that's
the
city,
a
municipal
public
partner,
who
wants
to
have
a
project
built.
They
enter
into
a
p3
contract
with
a
special
purpose
vehicle,
that's
spv
or
a
project
company.
Z
Okay,
that's
that
is
a
that
is
an
llc
or
some
form
of
project
entity.
That's
set
up
to
deliver
the
project
for
the
public
owner
that
entity
is
set
up
and
managed
by
the
equity
providers
on
the
right
and
they're
looking
to
make
a
return
by
taking
on
and
managing
all
the
risk
that
you
want
to
give
them
through
the
contract.
Z
Z
Reinsurer
investors
there's
a
variety
of
lender
types
that
would
participate
and
they're
looking
to
make
a
return
on
their
money
by
ensuring
that
that
spv
knows
what
they're
doing
has
a
track
record
and
has
a
good
plan
in
place
to
mitigate
risk.
So
how
do
they
do
that?
Well,
design
and
construction
is
passed.
That
risk
is
passed
down
to
a
design,
build
contractor
and
they
use
design,
build
principles
to
design
and
build
the
project
together,
not
as
a
separate
stage
gate
process.
Z
They
have
the
architect
and
some
of
the
specialty
engineering
disciplines,
as
well
as
the
contractor
and
the
owner,
and
sometimes
the
the
you
know,
the
equity,
the
spv
all
sitting
in
a
room
together,
figuring
out.
How
are
they
going
to
deliver
this
project
on
time
and
on
budget?
How
are
they
going
to
optimize
life
cycle
and
they
really
have
to
work
through
work
through
that
they
also
have
to
provide.
Z
Z
Now,
typically,
they
show
up
after
the
project's
built,
and
you
say
you
know:
do
you
want
to
manage
this
project
for
me
in
a
p3
they're
at
the
table
during
design
and
what
they're
doing
is
they're,
saying
hey
if
you,
if
you
cut
corners
and
you
go
buy
carpet
instead
of
terrazzo,
I'm
going
to
be
replacing
that
carpet
every
seven
years.
Is
that
what
you
want
to
do?
Z
One
more
slide
and
I'll
pause
briefly.
If
there's
any
clarifications,
so
really
one
really
important
point
here
is
that
you
don't
do
p3s
just
to
deal
with
the
first
cost
right.
You
have
aspects
you
have
a
delivery
method
like
design,
build
finance
and
that
that
really
helps
with
getting
the
project
managing
risk
to
get
the
project
built,
but
a
p3
also
typically
brings
in
this
o
m
perspective.
Z
Let's
take,
for
example,
a
building
most
buildings
are
designed.
It's
useful
life
is
designed
to
75
years
right.
How
many
of
us
are
working
in
buildings
that
are
more
than
75
years
old,
we're
in
one
today,
but
they're,
not
very
common
right.
These
buildings
get
replaced
before
the
end
of
their
useful
before
the
end
of
their
useful
life
sometimes
way
before,
and
so
what?
What?
Z
That's
a
tiny
fraction
of
the
period
of
time
that
this
asset
is
going
to
exist
and
we
often
times
ignore
that
65
70
years
of
life
that
this
asset
is
going
to
have
and
if
we
don't
think
about
that,
we're
going
to
run
into
trouble.
So
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
before
I
dive
in
on
benefits
I'll
just
pause
briefly
and
just
see.
If
there's
any
clarifications.
Z
Z
So,
in
terms
of
like
we
talked
about
design
bid
build
versus
p3.
This
is
really
ultimately,
p3s
are
about
transferring
risk
and
the
concept
of
transferring
risk
is
risk
doesn't
always
happen.
Risk
is
the
potential
that
something
could
happen
and
that's
based
on
a
whole
number
of
things
from
you
know,
competencies
to
available
budget.
Z
But
the
point
of
a
p3
is
to
say
who's
best
to
manage
this
right
and
so
that
that
gets
into
well.
Who
does
the
public
owner
want
to
partner
with?
And
why
is
it?
Is
it
the
you
know?
Is
it
the
past?
Is
it
what
happened
to
us
previously
like
we
got
burned
before,
and
we
don't
want
to
do
that
again
or
we
are
understaffed
or
we
are,
you
know,
there's
a.
Z
We
might
have
a
number
of
reasons
why
a
p3
is
interesting
to
us
and
we
want
to
explore
that
and
that's
ultimately,
because
you're
trying
to
not
get
burned
again.
You
don't
want
to
have
this
risk
sort
of
hot
potato
on
your
hands,
and
so
what
p3s
do
is
they
give
you
this
tool
set
to
be
smarter
about
how
you're
transferring
risk
and
weighing
that
cost
benefit
of
you
know?
Is
it
worth
if
there's
an
additional
price
right?
Z
It's
that
you
don't
deliver
major
projects
that
often
most
of
our
work
is
more
routine
and
in
the
wheelhouse
of
an
experience
of
of
staff
and
then
a
major
project
comes
along
and
you
have
to
evaluate
how
you're
gonna,
how
you're
gonna
tackle
that
in
a
in
the
best
manner
fit
for
for
the
city,
considering
the
city's
interests
next
slide,
please.
So
this
is
a
little.
This
graph
here
is
a
little
sort
of
example,
of
that
risk
that
I
was
talking
about.
Z
So
these
larger
major
projects
are
just
more
likely
to
have
cost
overruns
and
or
scheduled
delays
and
there's
a
lot
of
data
out
there.
That
sort
of
supports
this
this
happens
to
be
caltrans
data
and
we're
all
fame.
You
know
we
all
are
familiar
with
headlines
about
caltrans
projects
being
delayed
and
costing
more
than
we're
promised
I'm
from
the
bay
area.
Z
So
we
we
built
some
expensive
bridges
up
there,
but
you
know
the
data
says
that
if
they
are
more
sort
of
bread
and
butter
projects,
caltrans
can
like
they
can
deliver
an
interchange
or
an
overpass,
or
these
smaller
projects.
They
can
deliver
that
stuff
all
day
long
on
time
and
on
schedule
and
on
budget
using
traditional
means
design
bid
build,
for
example,
but
when
they
get
into
the
major
projects,
the
performance
falls
off
very
quickly
in
terms
of
over
cost
overruns
and
schedule.
Overruns
and
municipalities
aren't
caltrans
right.
These
are
different
asset
types.
Z
Z
There's
a
recent
study
done
of
about
212
projects
across
the
u.s,
looking
at
a
range
of
building
types
that
showed
that
the
design
build
method
yields
a
four
percent
lower
cost
growth
than
than
design
bid
build,
and
almost
a
hundred
percent
faster
schedule
delivery,
and-
and
this
is
the
design
build
method's
been
around
a
long
time.
But
it's
gained
a
lot
of
prominence
in
the
last
10
years
or
so
for
this.
Z
The
other
end
of
the
spectrum
after
a
project
is
built
very
often
that
total
cost
of
ownership
of
that
of
that
asset
is
is
still
less
than
50
percent.
So
you've
spent
all
this
money
to
build
the
project
and
you're,
not
at
50
of
your
expenditures.
Yet
right,
you
have
all
this
o
m
and
this
slide
is
trying
to
it's
from
data
in
the
long
beach
civic
center.
But
it
illustrates
the
point
right
of
the
total
cost
of
that
project.
Over
a
40-year
term,
only
about
40
percent
is
designing
construction
cost.
Z
You've
got
a
ton
of
cost
in
here
related
to
maintenance,
energy
costs.
You
know
utilities
and
a
life
cycle
replacement
reserve
that
is
going
to
be
funded
a
little
bit
every
year,
but
it's
going
to
slowly
take
care
of
all
those
systems
that
fall
apart,
the
roof,
the
hvac,
the
carpeting,
the
you
know
these
core
building
systems
that
you
need
elevators,
that
you
need
to
not
only
maintain,
but
you
need
to
prepare
to
replace
at
some
point
because
they
come.
Z
They
come
to
the
end
of
their
system,
useful
life,
so
p3s,
really,
the
the
essence
of
them
is
asking
your
development
partner
to
take
all
those
costs
and
say
you
optimize,
those
in
a
competitive
environment.
You
know
competing
against
a
different
development
team.
You
tell
us
what
is
your
plan
for
helping
the
city
get
best
value
out
of
not
just
your
first
cost,
but
your
total
cost
of
of
the
asset
that
that
is
a
that
is
a
huge
value.
Z
Add
of
the
p3
to
to
a
municipality
building
a
project
next
slide,
please,
the
other
area
in
terms
of
the
long-term
asset
preservation
risk
is
around
preserving
the
value
of
the
asset.
So
this
graphic
is
illustrative.
It's
not
based
on
like
actual
data,
except
for
the
beginning
and
end
dates
are
data
points,
but
they
had
us.
The
blue
line
represents
their
city
hall
right
and
over
a
40-year
period
from
when
it
was
built
to
when
this
project
this
contract
got
inked.
Z
So
that
comparison
is
that
those
two
lines
show
how
the
p3
kind
of
helps
preserve
the
value
of
your
asset
over
time.
Next
slide,
please,
oh
there's
a
couple
actually
go.
Let's
go
back.
There
were
a
couple
terms
that
I
want
to
make
sure
you're
familiar
with.
So
how
do
you
actually
calculate
what
I
just
told
you
so
asset
value
is
basically
at
any
given
point
in
time
is
how
much
repair
is
needed
to
get
that
facility
back
to
a
state
of
good
repair,
divided
by
its
replacement
value?
Z
So
there's
a
there's,
always
a
ratio
that
you
can
look
at
between
the
the
assessed
current
condition
of
the
asset
and
how
much
it
would
cost
to
replace
the
asset
in
any
given
year.
That's
your
facility,
that's
your
facility
condition
index
that
ratio,
and
how
do
you
do
that?
Well,
you,
I
think
I
think
public
works
director
has
been
in
front
of
you
guys
before
explaining
the
benefits
of
doing
facility,
condition,
assessments
and
understanding
what
the
current
condition
is
of
of
assets
and
what
the
implications
are
of
knowing
that
and
how
to
handle
that.
Z
So
p3s
are
a
way
of
attacking
that
for
major
projects,
not
necessarily
at
a
portfolio
level.
Although
there
are
portfolio
level
p3s
that
that
exist,
that
that
is
a
facility
condition
assessment
helps
you
assess
that
replacement
valve
that
helps.
You
assess
the
the
condition
of
the
asset
over
time
next
slide.
Z
Fundamentally,
the
perform
the
performance
nature
of
a
of
a
p3
is
that
it's
really
trying
to
help
align
incentives
in
the
interest
of
minimizing
the
risk
to
the
public
owner.
Okay,
I
talked
a
little
about
like
the
lenders
right
in
their
role
and
they're,
looking
over
they're
looking
over
the
shoulder
of
equity,
making
sure
that
nothing's
going
wrong
and
they
want
guarantees
from
their
contractor
and
they
they're
saying
hey.
I
want
to
give
you
this
money
at
four
percent,
but
I
don't
want
this
coming
back.
Z
I
don't
want
any
problems
right,
so
there's
a
real
analysis
that
goes
on
there
and
the
developer
is
responsible
for
securing
that
financing.
Typically,
so
what
happens
is
basically,
the
lenders
are
looking
to
minimize
their
risk,
which
protects
you
and
in
the
process
of
doing
that
they
do
a
number
of
things
right.
So,
in
the
construction
period,
the
lenders
are
when
they're
talking
about
how
much
money
they
have
to
lend
they're
looking
at
the
contractor's
experience
their
track
record,
not
just
with
building
the
similar
asset
types
but
like
how
many?
Z
How
many
like
do
they
show
up
on
lists
in
the
state
of
california?
For
you
know:
penalties
for
lack
of
safety
or
all
kinds
of
things
you
they
really.
The
lenders
will
really
dig
into
that
and
advisors
like
me,
help
you
understand
that
too,
as
the
owner,
but
they're
really
under
they're.
Looking
to
the
contractor,
ultimately,
because
this
llc
that
was
formed
to
build
the
project
they're,
not
the
ones
building,
this
thing,
they're,
not
the
ones
putting
their
neck
on
the
line,
but
they've
hired
a
contractor.
Who
needs
to
be
very
experienced.
Z
That's
going
to
deliver
that,
okay
and
and
the
lenders
are
going
to
look
at
that
they're
also
going
to
be
looking
at
the
entire
p3
contract
and
they're
going
to
be
looking
at
the
the
credit
analysis
of
the
whole
project
in
the
operating
period.
The
lenders
are
looking
at
how
any
risks
to
the
project
revenue
that's
being
used
to
pay
them
back.
So
in
the
operating
period
there
is
the
lenders
are
going
to
want
to
understand
how
the
payments
work
in
the
p3
and
the
way
payments
work
in
the
p3.
Z
Z
Elevators
have
scheduled
maintenance
all
the
time
right
when
we
tell
everybody
next
week,
elevator
a
is
going
to
be
down
for
two
days
because
we're
going
to
be
repairing
it
well,
if
that
elevator
goes
down
and
it's
not
a
scheduled
repair
now,
staff
can't
get
to
work
at
8,
30
or
whatever
it
is,
and
there's
a
problem.
So
what
happens
in
a
normal
construction,
an
o
m
process?
Z
Everybody
just
suffers
through
it
and
you
call
the
people
and
they
come
out
there
and
they
fix
it,
and
you
get
back
on
track
in
a
p3.
You
call
the
developer
and
the
clocks
ticking
and
when
the
end
of
the
month,
you
deduct
some
of
their
payments,
because
there
was
a
problem
that
was
unforeseen
and
they
didn't
deal
with
it
in
a
proper
time.
Z
That's
one
example
of
many
that
that
the
kpis
deal
with
so
when
there's
when
the
payment
comes
up.
The
reason
it's
performance
base
is
because
there
can
be
deductions
on
what
you
pay
the
developer
for
their
performance,
and
this
is
a
really
important
concept,
because
we're
gonna
in
the
next
slide.
We're
gonna
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
those
payments
work
and
if
the
developer,
if
there
are
deductions,
the
developer
may
not
get
the
full
payment
that
they're
expecting
in
that
month
and
that
hurts
their
return
on
investment.
Z
Second,
your
reserve
fund
is
is
fully
funded
for
life
cycle
and
replacement
funds.
Then
you
handle
your
debt
service.
Finally,
at
the
end,
you
pay
back
equity,
so
if
the
developer,
which
is
the
people
that
have
put
equity
into
the
project,
remember
that
that
graphic-
I
showed
you
earlier
of
the
different
parties.
Z
You
can
contractually
deduct
points
and
in
bad
situations
you
owners
have
and
will
deduct
points,
but
the
whole
idea
is
for
that.
Never
to
happen
right.
They
stay
on
top
of
everything
they
stay
on
top
of
the
the
o
m
provider.
They
can
fire
at
the
contractor
if
it's
not
working
out
and
and
and
things
are
going
wrong.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Additionally,
there's
a
couple
other
benefits
to
the
to
the
the
public
owner
one:
is
you
don't
you're
not
using
your
own
debt,
so
you
will
have
a
payment
obligation
on
your
books
that
you
have
to
pay
to
have
beneficial
use
of
this
building.
Let's
say,
but
it's
not
drawing
out
of
your
debt
capacity.
So
for
some
cities,
that's
or
counties,
that's
really
important!
We'll
talk
about
the
vermont
corridor
project
ellie
county
later,
in
the
case
studies,
the
other.
Z
Z
You
know
how
much
is
going
into
your
reserves,
and
you
know
that
that
building
in
20
or
5
to
30
or
40
years
is
going
to
be
handed
back
to
you
with
a
facility
condition
index
of
a
certain
amount
and
if
the
developer
fails
to
do
all
of
that
along
the
way.
Well,
there's
deductions
that
you're
gonna
they're,
gonna
you're
gonna
take
for
lack
of
performance,
but
importantly,
it's
a
very
predictable
and
stable
environment
process
there,
the
the
the
o
m
costs
are
ring
fenced
in
a
way
right.
Z
It's
going
to
be
harder
for
you
to
go
grab
that
o
m
money
for
one
of
these
p3s
and
spend
it
on
something
else,
because
it's
been
dedicated
to
taking
care
of
this
asset.
And
that's
that's
an
important
point.
You
know
it's
it's
limiting
it
limits
government
from
using
the
money
for
another
reason,
even
if
that
other
reason
is
very
important
and
because
it's
all
within
the
contract
of
the
p3
and
as
I
alluded
to
earlier,
there
are
certain
reasons
why
that's
important
in
and
of
its
own
right
because
deferred
mate.
Z
Deferring
maintenance
is
kind
of
like
borrowing
against
your
facility
condition
and
the
value
of
that
asset
to
pay
for
something
else
in
the
short
term.
But
if
you
don't
come
back
to
it,
you
you're
you're
carrying
that
interest
of
the
of
the
of
the
deferred
maintenance
over
time,
so
p3s
say
no.
We
got
to
take
care
of
this
asset.
I
don't
want
this
to
be
a
liability
later
you
package
it
all
up.
Z
The
other
thing
to
note
is
that
you
there
are
cases
where
the
developer
secures
financing,
but
it's
not
it's
public
financing,
you
don't
have
to
use
project,
finance
or
private
financing,
and
this
is
typically
looked
at
when
that
spread
of
the
interest
rates
between
a
taxable
project.
You
know,
project
financing,
the
developer
secures
and
what
you
could
get
through
a
revenue
bond,
let's
say
or
other
type
of
municipal
finance
in
the
capital
markets.
Z
That
difference
is
so
great
that
you
say
it's
not
it's
not
worth
it.
You
know
it
might
be
the
number
that
the
interest
that
you
pay
is
so
great.
It
may
not
make
sense
to
to
make
that
additional
payment
for
the
amount
of
risk
that
transfer
that
you're
getting
so,
but
the
benefit
the
key
benefit
here
is
not
that
you
can
use
other
financing.
The
key
benefit
is
that
p3s
help
you
make
that
evaluation
before
you
commit
yourself
to
some
big
project.
Z
You
get
to
look
at
that
before
you
secure
financing
next
slide
as
you'll
see
in
the
long
beach
civic
center
case
study.
Their
p3s
are
a
great
tool
and
method
for
achieving
multiple
policy
goals.
Long
beach,
civic
center,
which
I
had
the
pleasure
of
being
part
of,
was
sort
of
dubbed
the
hybrid
p3
and
and
the
concept
there
is,
the
public
asset
was
built
using
a
using
a
dbfom.
Z
Catalyst
for
the
economic
development
director
told
me
over
a
billion
dollars
of
additional
investment
made
by
the
private
sector
in
other
projects
around
that.
Because
of
the
government's
commitment
to
that
project,
now
did
the
p3
itself
make
that
happen?
No,
but
what
the
p3
did
is
it
created
a
vehicle
by
which
the
city
could
get
it
all
done
in
a
timely
manner,
in
an
efficient
manner
and
in
a
coordinated
manner
that
enabled
them
to
generate
revenue
for
their
project
and
make
it
affordable
and
achieve
these
housing
and
economic
development
goals,
and
that's
really
the
path?
Z
That's
really
the
power
of
of
of
the
p3
and
being
able
to
work
with
a
developer
in
that.
In
that
way,
a
couple
other
benefits
that
that
they
can
offer
is,
you
know,
you're,
gaining
economies
of
scale
right.
If
you
just
went
and
built,
you
just
went
and
built
one
asset
versus
asking
a
developer
to
build
three
assets.
Z
You
get
economies
in
scale
in
the
construction
and
the
design.
Potentially
you
also
get
it
in
terms
of
staffing
for
o
m.
If
you've
got
half
an
fte
to
manage
something,
that's
more
difficult
to
swallow
than
if
you
need
three
ftes
to
manage
a
bundle,
a
bundle
of
projects,
so
you
get
economies
of
scale.
That
way
you
also
you
get.
Z
You
know
the
process
led
to
leads
to
much
better
planning
and
place
making
over
the
life
cycle,
because
you
can
set
the
requirements
and
work
with
the
developer
to
make
sure
the
timing
and
and
the
consistency
across
all
the
projects
is
there
and
the
developer
can
help
provide
additional
services
across
the
whole.
The
multiple
projects
around
you
know,
mixed-use
neighborhood,
making
sure
it's
all
maintained
to
a
consistent.
Z
Z
We're
gonna
talk
about
two
projects
in
southern
california.
Here
one
is
long
beach,
civic
center
and
the
other
is
the
vermont
corridor
project
la
county
project.
So
it's
a
tet.
This
is
the
test
because
we
have.
This
is
where
all
the
concepts
come
together
and
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
these.
Z
These
case
studies
so
next
slide,
please
so
the
long
beach
civic
center
actually
had
two
procurement
models
in
one
project:
the
city
and
the
port
partnered
to
get
a
newport
headquarters
built,
but
also
a
new
city
hall,
main
library,
lincoln
park.
It's
about
a
five-acre
urban
downtown
park
and
all
the
associated
infrastructure
with
that
huge
plaza,
pedestrian
paseo
all
connected
to
transit.
Z
But
the
port
has
a
a
huge
balance
sheet
and
they
do
a
lot
of
bond
financing
on
their
own,
so
they
said
well
and
they
have
a
lot
of
professional
staff
that
maintain
tons
of
facilities.
So
they
said
you
know
we're
not
interested
in
the
life
cycle.
We're
interested
in
the
first
cost,
the
construction
cost.
So
we're
going
to
do
a
design,
build
finance.
Z
The
city
said:
well
we're
terrible
at
maintaining
assets.
So
we
want
the
dbfom,
because
we
don't
want
to
have
this.
We
don't
want
to
have
this
another
city
hall
story,
40
years
from
now.
We
got
to
replace
it
yet
again,
so
the
city
was
motivated
to
have
a
dbfom
and
they
work
together
to
enact
effectively
two
types
of
procurement
in
in
one
project,
and
there
was
some
brain
damage
involved
there.
Z
Z
They
also
took
responsibility
for
either
developing
themselves
or
selling
the
the
the
land
assets
to
developers
that
could
build
the
housing
when
they
built
the
public
asset.
There
was
no
transfer
of
property
rights
right
so
for
the
public
assets,
the
city
and
the
port
still
maintained
and
owned,
or
excuse
me
still
owned
the
land,
the
private
development
parcels,
the
city
elected
to
sell,
not
lease,
and
that
was
that
was
their
preference,
but
you
can
do
either
and
those
that
has
asked
those
land
sales.
Z
As
I
said,
brought
revenue
into
the
project,
the
public
project
plenary
was
the
equity
interest
that
managed
the
whole
project
and
ran
the
the
the
llc,
the
development
llc
and
the
lender
security
right.
So
what
the
lenders?
The
security
interest
in
this
project,
was
effectively
the
contract
that
they
that
the
developer
had
right
and
the
credit
of
the
city,
and
so
when
they
looked
at
those
two
things
they
said.
Okay,
this
is
a
this.
Is
this
has
a
high
credit
project,
so
they
gave
very
favorable
taxable
financing
to
to
the
project.
Z
And
finally,
this
is
an
availability
payment.
So
that
means
the
city
pays
the
developer
for
the
availability
of
the
assets
that
they
built.
So
this
again
city
hall,
main
library,
etc.
How
let's
go
to
the
next
slide.
So
how?
What
did
this
project
actually
look
like
it's
about
six
hundred
thousand
square
feet
of
public
buildings?
Z
Z
There
were
two
separate
financings,
as
I
said
so,
the
port.
This
was
a
for
the
city
project.
There
were
basically,
they
used
taxable
debt,
so
they
went
to
the
private
market
and
they
went
to
different
investors
and
they
ended
up
selling
all
the
bonds
to
one
investor,
which
was
a
reinsurer
who
wanted
this
type
of
municipal
project
on
their
in
their
portfolio
and
felt
that
the
the
project
was
well
conceived,
and
so
they
basically
provided
all
of
the
taxable
debt
for
the
city
project.
Z
The
port
project,
as
I
said,
was
they
just
said.
We
want
turnkey
construction
and
hand
me
the
keys
to
the
building
and
then
we'll
take
care
of
the
o
m,
so
the
port,
actually,
the
developer
security
construction
loan
for
the
port
headquarters,
building
at
a
very
favorable
interest
rate,
and
then
the
port
paid
down
that
entire
amount
at
the
end
of
construction,
with
a
with
a
bond
issuance
that
they're
they're
in
the
market
all
the
time.
Z
Z
So
when
the
project,
when
the
p3
contract
was
signed
at
the
beginning
of
the
the
construction
period,
the
city
sold
one
parcel
and
that
immediately
got
built
for
housing
and
that
brought
some
money
into
for
the
city.
The
rest
of
the
public
assets
were
built
and
at
the
end
of
that,
the
the
land
where
the
city
hall
stood
became
private
development
land
because
they
had
to
basically
stay
in
their
building
until
they
could
move
into
the
new
one.
Z
Z
Importantly,
this
project
was
conceived
as
a
mixed
use
district,
and
so
it
was.
It
was
always
thought
that
when
the
public,
the
public,
the
the
city
in
the
and
the
port
moved
into
their
new
buildings
that
the
old
lands
that
the
old
facilities
were
on
would
be
some
form
of
would
be
some
form
of
private
development.
Z
The
the
the
the
end
result,
however,
I
think
is
is
is
great
because
they
were
able
to
build
a
lot
of
middle-income
housing
in
a
city
like
most
california.
Cities
is
really
struggling
to
find
a
way
of
building
housing
at
scale
to
address
housing
issues,
and
they
were
able
to
do
that
in
this
project
and
we'll
see
how
that
last
piece
of
the
development
goes,
which
is
starting
construction
now.
Z
This
was
a
case
study
where
they
really
liked
the
benefits
of
a
dbfom,
but
they
just
couldn't
stomach.
A
couple
of
aspects
of
that
one
was
the
cost
of
the
cost
of
capital
was,
was
too
beneficial.
They
wanted
tax
exempt
financing.
They
could
get
a
much,
they
felt
they
could
get
a
much
better
deal,
so
they
used
a
what's
called
a
a
6320
structure
that
basically
enables
a
non-profit
to
raise
financing
and
create
a
project
for
a
public
entity.
Z
That
is
that
nonprofit
set
up
basically
to
do
that
work
for
a
public
entity,
so
it
is,
it
is
a
a
way
of
creating
an
arm's
length
transaction,
that's
not
debt
to
the
city,
but
it's
still
accessing
the
tax-exempt
markets
and
you're
still
trying
you're
still
maintaining
a
level
of
risk
transfer
to
an
entity.
That's
set
up
to
deliver
this.
There
are
important
differences,
but
in
in
effect
this
is
a
project.
Z
The
other
was
that
the
county
wasn't
sure
about
locking
in
their
o
m
costs.
Long
term,
as
I
said
that
you
do
have
to
make
that
commitment,
if
you're
doing
the
full
dbf
om
the
county
didn't
want
to
do
that.
So
this
project
was
effectively
a
100
percent
tax-exempt
deal
bonds
issued
by
the
non-profit,
the
nonprofit
hired
the
design
builder,
which
was
tremel
crow,
and
they
worked
with
the
design
team
and
the
in
the
county
in
a
progressive
fashion.
Z
Have
you
ever
heard
of
the
term
progressive
design
build
it's
effectively
rather
than
rather
than
taking
design
to
a
certain
point
and
then
having
a
contractor
price?
It
you
do
that
initial
design
with
the
contractor,
and
you
go
through
these
progressive
milestones
and
updates
to
a
price
until
you
agree
on
a
final
price.
At
a
certain
point,
so
you'll
hear
the
term
design
build
and
you'll
hear
the
term
progressive
design,
build
they're,
they're,
similar,
but
progressive
means
there's
more
upfront,
collaborative
involvement
before
the
final
turnkey
fixed
price.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Now
the
county
is
not
totally
divorced
of
this
project
either.
There
are
certain
rules
that
6320s
require
like
at
any
time.
The
county
could
defuse
the
bonds
with
other
money
and
take
the
building
over
you
could
also
have.
You
can
also
have
a
a
situation
where
the
nonprofit
does
default
and
their
their
lenders
need
it
to
be
rented
to
somebody
and
the
county
says
I
don't
know
they
would
have
to
rent
that
building
to
somebody
else,
because
they
hold
title
and
the
bonds
they
sold
the
bonds
in
the
market,
not
the
county.
Z
So
you
can
ask
a
you,
know,
an
unknown
provider
to
come
in
and
provide
more
of
that
life
cycle,
experience
and
and
funding
of
replacement
and
handling
more
of
that
life
cycle
cost
this
next
slide.
Oh
no,
oh
you
were
on
that
slide.
I'm
sorry!
I
was
stay
there
for
a
second,
so
this
was
a
also
a
a
pretty
large
project.
It's
about
350
million
dollar.
First
cost
project
cost
the
it's
mostly
offices,
however,
and
a
lot
of
parking.
Z
The
big
benefit
here
was
that
the
county
didn't
have
to
use
their
own
debt
because
they
had
concerns
about
debt
capacity,
preserving
it
for
other
projects.
They
also
were
able
to
save
quite
a
bit
of
money
in
in
the
in
the
o
m
and
the
and
the
amount
of
financing
they
they
saved
versus
a
a
project
financing.
Z
Z
Okay,
that
pretty
much
concludes
our
presentation
as
a
as
a
as
a
quick
reminder
these
these.
These
are
I've
gone
through
a
lot
of
these
benefits
of
p3s,
obviously
the
devils
and
the
details,
but
when
you're,
when
you're
thinking
about
future
projects
right,
these
are
some
of
the
key
benefits
that
you
should
be
thinking
about
and
asking
about
of
risk
transfer
optimizing
costs
across
the
life
cycle,
getting
the
benefit
of
performance-based
contracting.
Z
C
Z
C
Because
that's
something
we
really
haven't
done
and
you
know
I'm
talking
about
past
council
members
and
past
councils-
we've
never
really
focused
on
something
like
that.
I
know
that
myself
early
on,
I
would
vote
for
something
yeah.
Let's
do
it.
You
know
it
sounds
good
just
like
when
you
bought
something
on
the
ballot
box
parks
and
park,
stuff
yeah,
I'm
all
for
parks.
Let's
do
it.
How
can
that
be
bad,
but
the
question
ever
has
come
up.
C
How
are
you
going
to
pay
for
it
after
after
the
one-time
funding
runs
out
right
or
you
know,
moving
forward
right
and
well
we'll
deal
with
that
in
40
years,
when
it's
time
to
either
replace
it
or
repair
it
along
the
way
kind
of
band-aid
along
the
way,
so
the
state
of
good
repair
is
an
excellent
way
of
doing
business
moving
forward
and
having
something
there
build
up
year
after
year
after
year,
so
you
can
have
some
funding
source,
you
don't
have
to
say
now.
What
are
we
going
to
do?
C
C
That's
my
story
and
I'm
sticking
to
it.
But
anyway
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up.
I
find
this
very
interesting
moving
forward.
I've
I've
discussed
p3s
for
several
years
now,
because
I've
been
I've
been
it's
been
brought
to
my
attention
and
I've
gone.
When
I
go
to
conferences,
things
like
that,
p3s
are
brought
up.
It's
a
it's
a
good
way
of
funding
as
long
as
you
get
all
the
right
pieces
together
and
the
right
characters
to
do
the
right
jobs.
That's.
K
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
First
of
all,
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
think
we
have
a
couple
college
students
and
a
high
school
student
here
in
the
room
with
us
and
I
feel,
like
I
just
got
out
of
lecture
very,
very
good
job.
Sir.
Don't
hit
me
with
a
pop
quiz,
but
rarely
do
I
not
have
questions,
although
ms
goldman,
I
am
gonna,
have
some
questions
on
september
13th
when
we
talk
about
the
more
specific
project,
but
I
do
have
one
sir,
and
I
don't
mean
to
be
tongue-in-cheek,
about
this
whatsoever.
K
Looking
at
the
staff
report,
looking
at
the
presentation,
you
lay
out
all
of
the
many
benefits
of
p3
financing
and
several
success
stories
and
and
quite
frankly,
I'm
I'm
convinced
it's
certainly
a
good
model,
but
in
fairness
there
are
pitfalls
to
p3
financing
or
trade-offs.
Could
you
cover
those?
So
the
public
can
hear
about
that.
Z
Z
Z
You
can
get
people
that
don't
the
complexity
frightens
them
right,
even
if
it's
creating
value
it's.
If
it's
hard
to
understand,
then
it's
harder
to
convince
people.
So
that's
kind
of
point
number
one
before
that
even
becomes
a
project
there.
This
model's
been
around
a
long
time
outside
of
the
u.s
right.
A
lot
of
countries,
don't
have
the
the
strong
capital
markets
that
we
have,
that
that
provide
cheap
capital,
and
so
a
lot
more
infrastructure
is
built
using
project
finance.
Z
The
the
the
united
kingdom
is
a
great
example.
In
fact,
I
think
this
model
comes
from
that.
Originally,
there
have
been
a
lot
of
discussions
as
they
have
come
to
the
end
of
a
30-40
year
period
of
using
p3s
for
a
variety
of
types
of
assets
and
in
the
uk
the
feelings
are
mixed
about
whether
p3s
have
delivered
the
value.
They
said
they
would
it's
highly
political
where
those
papers
are
coming
from
and
who's
saying.
Z
What's
because
everyone's
jockeying
for
power,
but
in
the
round,
I
think,
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
evidence
that
that
says
that
p3s
can
provide
a
lot
of
value.
But
a
lot
of
it
lies
in
how
well
you
manage
that
contract
right.
You
can
write
the
best
contract
in
the
world,
but
if
you
don't
actually
use
the
contract
to
manage
what
it
is
you're
trying
to
attain,
it
can
slip
through
your
fingers.
Z
So
that
would
probably
be
point
number
two
in
in
the
uk.
The
big
the
big
hubbub
is
about
hand
back
and
whether
projects
are
getting
handed
back
with
that
preserved
asset
value
or
not,
and
who
measured
it
and
when
did
it
get
measured,
and
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
about
that.
The
uk
treasury
has
a
lot
of
information
on
the
statistics
of
their.
They
call
it.
The
project
finance
initiative
pfi
if
anyone's
interested,
it's
great
late
night
reading.
Z
P3S
are
also
set
up
to
deal
with
the
downside
scenarios
right
in
most
cases,
you're,
not
writing
p3s,
because
you're
entering
into
p3s,
because
you
know
risk
is
going
to
occur,
you're
doing
it
because
it
might
occur,
and
that
is
an
area
where,
depending
on
your
opinion
about
p3s,
you
would
say
they
fail,
or
you
would
say,
the
p3s
did
their
job
and
I'll
give
you
an
example.
State
route
91
in
san
diego
toll
road
went
bankrupt.
Z
Z
They
they
did
a
deal
and
they
went
bankrupt
that
if
you're
the
public,
the
public
interest,
you
might
say.
Well,
we
got
the
benefit
of
the
toll
road
and
now
it's
our
road
and
we
wish
it
that
hadn't
happened
the
way
it
did,
but
it
wasn't
the
public
out
there,
spending
the
money
and
then
losing
it
all.
That
was
a
risk
that
the
private
sector
wanted
to
take
in
partnership
with
with
the
with
the
county.
Z
L
Z
Z
You
would
have
right,
you
have
you
wear
a
lot
of
hats
as
a
public
owner
in
these
projects.
You,
you
are
the
sponsor,
you're,
also
the
regulator,
so
there's
there's
some
stuff.
You
got
to
manage
there,
but
there's
in
negotiating
the
projects.
It's
it's
financial,
technical
and
legal
consultants,
supporting
staff
who
are
leading
the
negotiations.
L
They're
questions
that
came
up
for
me,
so
is
the
the
central
library
a
part
of
this.
You
know
the
existing
central
library
and
it
was
built
in
1963,
and
I've
told
ms
goldman
this,
but
it
would
be
really
nice
whether
one
likes
it
or
not.
To
save
a
portion
of
the
facade
is
it
possible
to
do
some
a
project,
so
there
are
some
for
sale
units.
L
And
is
there
a
design
that
extends
or
maximizes
the
economic
life
of
a
building
so
that
at
the
end
of
30
or
40
years,
it
is
some
value
and
if
it
does,
if
it's
negotiated,
that
it
reverts
to
us
that
it
does
have
some
value
for
us,
and
I
we
have
the
city.
Council
has
seven
goals
and
I
won't
go
through
all
of
them.
L
Anybody
can
give
them
to
you
but,
for
example,
quality
of
life
you
mentioned
place
making,
and
so
that's
what
causes
me
to
think
about
them,
but
we
do
have
a
quality
of
life
goal.
You
know
to
include
neighborhood
protection
in
this
case
it
would
be
like
neighborhood
building.
So
as
we
do
this,
and
can
we
please
keep
those
in
mind?
There
are
seven
of
them
and
you
know,
even
in
my
comment
about
lead,
platinum
and
being
fully
self-contained.
L
Y
G
How
much
or
the
legality
is
the
taxpayer
gonna
be
responsible
for
this,
because
that's
that's
to
me
is
a
big
concern.
Is
I
get
what
you're
saying,
but
council
member
schultz
brought
up
a
good
point.
You
know
the
dark
side
and
you're
talking
about
the
european,
and
you
got
me
thinking
so
my
only
question
it
doesn't
have
to
be
answered
tonight.
G
G
My
only
question
watching
the
taxpayers
dollars
is
how
much
on
the
hook
are
we
going
to
be
responsible
for
if
this
gold's
belly
up
and
listening
to
what
happened
in
san
diego,
I'm
looking
at
wait
a
minute.
This
here
is
more
for
housing,
it's
a
library.
So
there's
not
that
much
revenue
except
for
the
rental
of
the
units.
G
How
much
is
the
app
you
know
the
taxpayer,
or
in
this
case
the
city
the
corporation,
going
to
be
on
the
hook
if
this
gold's
belly
up
and
you
have
to
answer
it
now,
it's
it's
it's
a
sensitive
question
and
I
want
to
know
the
facts
so
there's
time
to
research
it.
I
would
really
like
to
know
you
know
using
today's
numbers
in
that
40
plus
year
span
the
goes
bankrupt,
there's
another
pandemic
we
shut
down.
G
Z
Yeah,
let's
come
back
on
the
13th,
because
your
question
I
think,
is
really
rooted
in
the
project.
I
can.
I
can
answer
in
in
principle
that
the
p3
contracts
deal
very
directly
with
bankruptcy
and
what
happens
and
what
protections
the
developer
has
and
or
the
the
city
or
municipality
has,
and
they
are.
There
are
many
reasons
for
bankruptcy
right
in
some
cases,
it's
you
know,
lack
of
revenue
in
an
availability
payment
project
like
we
like
in
long
beach,
civic
center.
Z
It's
really
the
credit
of
the
city
willing
to
make
a
payment
for
the
project,
so
the
revenue
risk
the
bankruptcy
in
terms
of
revenue.
Risk
is
really
related
to
the
city's
ability
to
make
payments
which
could
happen
right,
like
if
sales
tax
tank
or
something
like
that
happens
very
unlikely.
In
the
credit
analysis
that
you
need
for
a
project
would
would
look
at
that
in
the
history
of
the
municipalities,
ability
to
pay
and
how
it
manages
its
debt.
Z
That
kind
of
thing
bankruptcy
for,
for
other
reasons,
like
the
the
failure
of
the
parent
company
somewhere
right.
That's
partly
why
you
have
a
project
specific
llc
that
exists
for
the
purpose
of
the
project.
So,
if
something
like
that
happens,
it
doesn't
necessarily
take
the
project
down.
So
that's
another
bankruptcy
scenario
that
the
p3
contract
deals
with.
Z
So
in
in
principle,
yes,
that
question
is:
there's
a
very
specific
answer
to
it,
depending
on
how
the
contract
is
written
in
the
case
of
the
project,
I
think
we
will.
We
can
come
back
to
you
with
you
know:
what's
the
difference
between
what
happens
to
the
public
assets
versus
what
happens
to
the
housing,
because
those
are
actually
two
different
components
with
different
structures
behind
them
and.
G
G
Then
we
had
the
pandemic
for
about
a
year
and
then
they
were
looking
for
somebody
to
buy
the
note
and
the
mall
is
in
limbo
of
who's
going
to
pick
up
the
note
are
they
going
to
go
bankrupt
and
that
kind
of
after
councilman
schultz
brought
that
point
up
now.
It's
got
me
really
thinking,
so
you
know
who's
going
to
pick
up
that
note
from
the
you
know
the
developer
standpoint
of
I
mean
I'll
wait
to
the
13th,
but
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
where
my
question
was
coming
from
yep.
Thank
you.
C
Y
The
city
treasurer
has
not
been
involved
to
this
point,
but
certainly
ms
becker
has
been
very
involved
and
she
apologizes
she's
ill
and
was
not
able
to
be
here
tonight,
but
she
wanted
to
she.
She
said
I
could
let
you
know
that
she's
supportive
of
this
model,
because
it
places
the
debt
burden
on
the
developer
instead
of
the
city
and
she
absolutely
plans
to
eval,
evaluate
any
and
all
financing
options
to
ensure
the
city
is
getting
the
best
terms
and
interest
rates
available
to
us.
Y
I
think
it
depends
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
it
depends
a
little
bit
on
whether
you
know
if
this,
if
we're
not
issuing
the
financing-
and
it
doesn't
become
a
debt
burden
for
the
city,
I
don't
believe
it
should
have
that
much
impact
okay.
However,
we
will
discuss
that
more
and
make
sure
that
that
we're
bringing
her
in
if
there
is
a
relevant
role.
L
Just
an
another
question
for
the
13th
is:
are
we
considering
any?
We
we
on
the
land
under
in
both
locations
under
the
library
and
the
future
civil
plaza
is?
Is
land
going
to
be
considered
as
a
subsidy
for
any
part
of
those,
because
I
know
that
land
costs
are
just
so
high
and
I'm
just
involved
with
a
few
committees
right
now,
where
they
talk
about
land
as
a
subsidy
of
then,
and
of
course
that
would
bring
down
housing
cost
a
lot,
and
we
have
seen
that
with
burbank
housing
corp.
C
AA
C
C
H
Four
of
the
five
members
are
with
us
tonight
and
I
would
like
to
introduce
them
before
continuing
with
my
presentation,
chair,
christopher
rosati,
vice
chair
gloria
salas
committee
member
gavin,
cho
and
committee
member
kevin
muldoon.
Unfortunately,
committee
member
alejandro
escobar
was
not
able
to
join
us
today,
as
he
is
in
kansas
on
a
work
trip.
H
I'd
like
to
give
you
some
background
go
ahead
and
on
the
next
slide.
Please
thank
you.
I'd
like
to
give
you
some
background
of
the
charter
and
the
charter
review
process.
The
city
of
burbank's
charter
is
our
basic
founding
document
that
defines
the
limitations,
functions,
organization
and
essential
procedures
on
governance
of
our
city
in
the
past.
Proposed
changes
to
the
charter
have
been
brought
about
in
one
of
two
ways,
either
by
the
city
council
or
from
a
charter
review
committee
such
as
the
one
we
have
before
us
today.
H
H
Section
1400
of
the
city
charter
requires
that
at
five
year
intervals
the
city
council
select
five
citizens
from
the
community
to
form
a
committee
to
consider
whether
the
charter
requires
changes
and
to
recommend
those
changes.
The
charter
provides
three
conclusions:
a
full
review,
a
limited
review
or
no
review
go
ahead.
H
The
committee
met
on
six
separate
locations
during
the
springtime.
The
first
three
meetings
were
held
via
video
teleconference
and
as
soon
as
council
determined
that
it
was
safe
for
us
to
return
in
person.
The
following
three
meetings
were
held
in
person
downstairs
in
the
city
attorney's
conference
room.
All
the
meetings
were
open
to
the
public
and
held
in
accordance
accordance
with
the
ralph
m
brown
act,
including
the
posting
of
agendas
72
hours
in
advance
of
the
meetings
and
a
public
comment
period,
allowing
call-in
speakers
and
in-person
speakers.
H
The
staff
liaisons
to
the
committee
were
city
attorney,
joe
mcdougall
assistant
city
manager,
judy
wilkie
and
myself.
At
the
committee's
second
meeting,
christopher
rosati
was
selected
as
the
committee's
chair
with
gloria
salas,
serving
as
the
vice
chair
next
slide.
Please,
prior
to
the
first
meeting
committee,
members
were
given
a
binder
with
documents
to
use
as
a
resource
during
the
review,
including
charter
of
the
city
of
burbank,
which
looks
like
this.
H
H
The
charter
review
process
began
with
each
committee
member
providing
staff
with
a
list
of
topics
for
discussion
topics
included
budget
process.
The
general
organization
of
the
city
term
limits
capping
of
election
funds,
the
continuing
continuation
of
the
hybrid
public
comment
period
and
many
more.
In
total,
the
list
had
over
25
topics
for
discussion.
H
H
The
committee
engaged
in
productive
discussions
that
narrowed
down
the
list
on
the
narrowed
down
the
items
on
the
original
list
of
discussion
topics.
Each
member
was
given
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
express
their
opinions.
The
discussions
gave
the
committee
members
a
greater
understanding
of
the
city's
history
organization
functions
and
operations.
H
The
final
step
in
the
review
process
was
for
the
committee
to
thoughtfully
consider
what
they
would
be
recommending
to
council.
I
would
like
to
welcome
chair
of
the
charter
review
committee,
mr
christopher
rosati,
to
present
the
2022
charter
review
committee,
recommendations
to
city
council,
mr
rizzotti.
AB
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
john
council.
Members
mayor.
Thank
you.
My
name
is
coach
rizzotti
and
I'm
the
chair
of
the
charter
review
committee,
our
committee
members,
thank
you
for
your
appointments
and
mr
frutos.
Thank
you
for
your
faith
in
me
and
your
appointment.
I
would
like
to
say:
I've
been
on
a
lot
of
committees,
and
this
was
a
good
one,
not
because
we
agreed,
but
everyone's
willingness
to
really
work
hard.
We
met.
AB
AB
C
AB
G
G
G
Sometimes
I
I
kind
of
get
disappointed
because
we've
got
some
really
good
commissioners,
but
they
got
over
20
years
and
it
doesn't
allow
more
people.
So
I
would
like
to
support
the
charter
review
committee
on
that
one
point:
just
one
council,
member
for
the
discussion
to
also
include
the
boards
and
commissions.
G
G
G
I
really
believe
in
the
equity
and
most
important
that
if
any
council
member
or
any
commissioner
is
literally
proving
or
have
some
type
of
a
review,
but
if
anybody
at
the
elected
level
or
the
appointed
level
discriminates
against
any
individual
based
on
age,
race,
color,
religion,
sex,
disability,
national
or
et
cetera
should
be
removed
and
it
should
be
a
process.
So
I
I
was
thinking
about
that
for
for
this
meeting
and
I
do
agree
after
serving
on
the
charter.
G
I
think
it
it's
a
good
idea,
every
eight
years
in
a
non-election
year
cycle,
so
it
doesn't
become
a
political
football
during
the
process
and
those
are
my
thoughts,
I'm
open
to
see
where
you
guys
are
thinking,
but
thank
you
very
much
and
I
do
support
the
recommendations.
I
would
just
like
to
see
accountability
for
the
electeds,
not
just
the
employees,
but
also
the
electives
and
boards
and
commissions.
G
K
You,
council,
member,
so
councilmember
fruits.
First
of
all,
I
agree
with
you.
I
think
that
term
limits
are
something
I'd
like
the
committee
to
move
forward
and
explore.
I
also
agree
with
you
that
three
terms,
I
don't
want
to
direct
the
committee,
what
to
do
you're,
obviously
going
to
conduct
your
full
review,
but
three
terms
does
make
sense
to
me,
because
the
other
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
we
represent
the
city
of
burbank
on
regional
boards.
K
Most
of
our
neighbors
in
glendale,
pasadena,
los
angeles,
have
three
term
limits
and
I
wouldn't
want
burbank
to
be
at
an
institutional
disadvantage
by
cycling
through
our
council
members
earlier.
Ultimately,
that
is
the
work
for
the
committee
to
review
and
decide,
but
that's
just
one
council
member's
two
cents,
mr
city
attorney.
I
agree
with
council
member
frutos
about
the
social
inequity
and
discrimination
clause.
The
only
concern
I
have
is
legally
speaking
when
you
talk
about
removal
of
elected
officials.
I
I
know
from
my
background
that
that
can
be
really
trepid
waters.
R
Well,
elected
officials
are
placed
in
office
by
the
voters,
so
council
members
don't
have
the
ability
to
remove
each
other.
Colleagues,
you
of
course
can
and
counsel
has
over
the
years
had
discussions
about
the
merits
of
removing
a
border
commissioner.
So
there's
a
proper
relationship
there
for
that,
and
I
think
the
charter
review
committee
may
also
have
additional
thoughts
about
social
inequity
generally,
not
simply
discrimination,
but
but
infusing
more
policy
objectives
in
to
the
charter
and
part
of
the
discussion
also
included.
R
K
Thank
you,
mr
city
attorney.
With
those
thoughts
in
mind.
I
would
also
be
in
agreement
of
their
further
study
of
that
issue.
I
did
have
a
question,
I
suppose
initially
for
you,
mr
garzon
or
perhaps
for
chair
rizzotti,
with
regards
to
amending
section
1400,
you
know
moving
it
from
five
years
to
eight
years.
I
just
wanted
to
know
thus
far.
What
was
the
committee's
rationale
behind
doing
that
or
suggesting
that
I
should
say.
AB
Thank
you
welcome
welcome
back,
I
we
reviewed
past
charter
reviews
and
it
was
kind
of
the
same
topics
have
come
up
over
and
over
and
over
there
really
wasn't
a
lot
of
new
information,
so
it
just
seemed
to
repetitive
to
to
go
through
this
every
five
years.
So
we
thought
you
know.
As
council
member
fruta
said,
he's
served
twice
and
I
don't
think
much
has
come
out
of
those
those
meetings,
so
maybe
eight
years
would
probably
be
best.
AB
AB
E
K
Mr
izzati,
you
might
want
to
stay
up
here
for
that.
One
issue
that
I
know
that
has
come
up
time
and
again
is
the
issue
of
districts
for
council,
and
I
know
that
that
was
something
that
the
committee
discussed,
because
it
wasn't
listed
in
the
report
and
the
notes
are
are
minimal
by
their
nature.
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
just
tell
me
a
bit
about
the
committee's
conversation
about
districts.
We.
AB
Talked
about
districts,
we
had
actually
quite
a
bit
of
conversation
with
their
with
our
city
attorney.
We
felt
that
burbank
one
wasn't
really
that
large
of
a
community
where
we
would
have
districts
and
then,
where
would
you
draw
the
lines
for
the
districts
you
know?
Is
it
hillside?
Is
it
magnolia
park?
Is
it
verdugo
park?
Is
it
the
rancho?
AB
AB
Don't
I'm
going
to
say
all
of
us,
but
if
I'm
wrong
just
let
me
know,
we
think
that
we
should
elect
people
that
represent
all
of
us,
not
a
district,
and
there
shouldn't
be.
You
know
in
la
they
trade
favors,
so
they
can
get
certain
things
in
their
district.
We
want
a
council
that
we
elect
to
represent
all
of
the
community,
not
the
rancho,
not
the
hillside.
I
want
to
know.
Excuse
me
this
mask
is
bothering
me.
AB
AB
AB
D
G
I
was
there,
we
did
a
major,
we
discussed
the
same
thing
like,
like
the
chair
said
it
just
comes
back
again
and
then
in
2010,
when
I
was
appointed
on
behalf
of
dr
gordon
same
discussion
and
in
my
charter
review
committees.
If
I
remember
right,
the
biggest
thing
is
that
we
really
just
looked
at
la
and
we
looked
at
our
form
of
government.
We
looked
at
the
size
of
the
city
and
the
chair
is
right.
The
people
of
burbank
have
always
wanted
councilman.
Just
look
where
we
live.
G
C
R
So,
mr
mayor,
yes,
if
I
could
offer
a
brief
comment
on
that
point,
and-
and
so
that
goes
to
the
matter
of
fair
representation
under
the
california,
voter
rights
act
and
those
actions
are
brought
as
lawsuits
to
challenge
whether
the
voting
system
fairly
represents
underrepresented
groups
and
whether
those
groups
votes
are
being
deluded,
and
so
it's
a
it's
a
very
specific
kind
of
kind
of
demographic.
It
doesn't
simply
relate
to
to
racial
aspects.
R
It
certainly
goes
to
geographic
aspects.
It
goes
to
the
issues
that
chairman
rosati
mentioned
about
geographical
representation,
but
also
gender,
and
also
so
both
fruitos
and
rizzotti,
as
latino
representatives
of
the
community
and
on
the
council,
also
former
council,
member
and
mayor
marcia
ramos,
but
then
we've
also
had
many
women
also
on
council.
So
I
think,
while
the
threats
do
come
up,
I
think
you
know
there's
there's
certainly
a
sense
of
fair
representation.
K
C
C
V
Just
very
quickly-
and
I
don't
know
if
anyone
here
is
even
old
enough
to
remember
back
in
the
mid
80s
late
80s-
there
were
a
group
of
community
members
who
came
and
approached
council
with
districts,
and
they
one
of
them
actually
drew
the
districts
and
how
they
would
divide
the
city.
So
it's
I'm
sure
it's
somewhere
in
the
records.
But
at
that
time
that
city
council
voted
against
it.
So
that's
just
a
little
bit
of
historical
information.
C
L
R
R
They
see
the
charter
as
a
governing
document,
and
so
it
sits
here
as
a
recommendation
because
there
wasn't
there
wasn't
finite
language
to
recommend
to
the
council,
but
I
think
they
still
felt
there
was
more
work
to
do
on
the
subject,
not
simply
what's
legal
in
the
civil
code.
You
know
what's
in
the
city's
anti-discrimination
policy,
but
really
looking
more
at
some
of
the
work
that
the
council
has
now
set
in
place
about
diversity
and
inclusiveness.
L
R
The
screening
is
blind,
and
so
you
know,
I
suppose
part
of
it
depends
upon
the
the
availability
of
people
to
apply
and-
and
I
can
say
for
one
I
haven't
seen
candidates
in
particular-
that
represented
those
groups,
so
the
the
recruitment
process
is
set
up.
That
way
and
and
and
so
you
can
always
set
a
policy
and
the
city
does
have
a
policy
and
has
an
anti-discrimination
policy
and
blind
screening
so
that
we
don't
get
applicants.
R
I
As
well,
I
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
council
member
springer
that
we
do
have
a
lot
of
employees
with
disabilities
that
are
hired
for
the
city.
Now
they
may
not
be
obvious
disabilities,
like
a
wheelchair
that
you
mentioned,
but
I
do
want
to
make
it
clear
that
we
have.
We
have
a
lot
of
employees
who
have
disabilities.
E
C
C
So
it's
not
the
the
applicant
themselves,
that's
at
fault.
It's
the
appointing
body,
that's
up
here
that
that
have
done
that
year
after
year
right,
mr
frutos,
I
mean
we've
we're
guilty
of
that,
but
nonetheless,
so
having
a
three-year
term,
our
three-year
you
know
a
three-term
limit
on
a
board.
You
know
you
there's
pros
and
cons
to
that.
I
don't
know
if
you
discussed
you
did
this
discuss
the
pro
go
ahead.
Mr
rossetti.
AB
Indulge
me
just
for
a
moment
we're
making
the
recommendation
for
you
to
make
that
decision,
we're
leaving
the
door
open
if
you
want
it
three
years,
two
years
off
and
come
back,
but
we
we
just
said
there
should
be
term
limits,
but
we're
leaving
it
up
to
you
guys
to
how
many,
how
many
years
and
if
you
want
to
open
the
door
for
that
person
to
come
back
same
with
the
boards
and
commissions
so
that
that's
we're
just.
We
left
that
open
all
right.
I
It's
ultimately
the
council's
decision.
What
would
go
on
the
ballot?
I
mean
that's
the
bottom
line
and
then
it's
the
decision
of
the
voters
if
they
agree
or
not
right,
but
ultimate.
What
what
I
think
the
plan
is
is
that
if
they,
if
you
agree-
and
it's
looking
that
way
for
them
to
do
a
more
further
review,
they'll
come
back
with
a
recommendation
to
you
about,
and
it
could
be
options.
You
know
yeah.
I
C
I
Come
back
based
on
research
from
what
they
have
found
from
other
cities,
you
know
what
they
believe.
What
they've
heard
tonight.
You
know
what
they
hear
from
the
community.
Those
types
of
things
so
they'll
come
back
with
some
form
of
a
recommendation,
but
ultimately
it
it
is
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
council's
decision
to.
C
C
R
So
the
charter,
so
the
the
review
committee
right,
has
a
desire
to
infuse
some
policy
into
the
charter
from
my
view,
as
a
city
attorney,
the
charter
is
the
structure
of
government.
The
california
constitution
gives
the
cities
the
ability
to
form
a
charter
city
and
to
this
is
arguable,
retain
as
much
local
control
as
possible
and
have
control
over
the
general
laws
in
the
state.
Okay,
and
so
the
charter
is
a
framework,
it
sets
up
the
offices,
it
sets
up
the
council.
R
It
sets
up
the
structure
and
review
cycle
of
the
charter.
It
is
not
enforceable
by
ordinance,
you
know,
there's
not
a
misdemean
there's
nothing
in
here,
that's
punishable
as
a
misdemeanor.
It
doesn't
set
forth
penal
laws
in
the
way
that
the
state
codes
and
our
municipal
code
is
enforceable
by
infractions
and
misdemeanors.
So
there's
a
different
structure
to
them.
That
said,
there's
nothing
that
says
the
charter
can't
have
aspirational
language
about
diversity
and
inclusiveness.
R
So
that
was
a
discussion
that
we
had.
I
believe
the
committee
members
would
like
to
work
on
some
language
that
they
think
would
be
appropriate
for
the
charter
and-
and
I
would
naturally
view
it
differently
as
an
attorney
whether
it
was
necessary
as
the
structure
for
the
city,
but
it
doesn't
mean
it
can't
be
in
there.
So
so,
yes,
there
are
laws.
R
C
I
Credence,
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
committee,
but
I
would
think
that,
based
on
our
conversations,
it's
more
of
the
values
of
us
as
a
community,
okay
and
what
what
we
believe
in
and
what
we
value
and
what
we
believe
is
important
to
us
as
a
community.
And
I
think
that's
really
what
it
was
more
about.
C
C
You
know
going
back
to
the
term
limits,
there's
a
lot
of
good
people
that
are
serving
our
boards
and
commissions
right.
So
now
we
give
them
three
terms
as
limits
that
we
we
still
have
to
leave
it
open
for
them
to
maybe
go
to
another
board
or
take
a
break
for
two
years
and
come
back
and
reapply
or
I
mean
there's
got
to
be
discussions.
It
just
can't
be
just
three
terms
and
you're
out.
I
I
think
that
will
absolutely
be
part
of
the
discussion
and
I
think
that's
why,
having
a
more
a
more
further
review
of
this
will
give
opportunity
for
other
boards
and
commission
members
to
weigh
in
community
members
to
weigh
in
and
to
come
back
with
some
thoughts
on
and
to
see
what
other
cities
do,
because,
obviously
other
cities
have
boards
and
commissions
as
well
and
to
see
how
they've
you
know
done
that.
But
I
know
it's
you
know
having
worked
here
for
over
30
years.
I
I
know
how
important
it
is
to
a
lot
of
our
our
commission
members
to
say
that
they
had
a
40-year
pin
or
you
know
something
that
that
they
value
that
they
they
treasure
their
service
to
this
community.
So
I
think
that
is
absolutely
something
that
the
the
committee
will
have
to
take
into
consideration
in
terms
of
you
know
what
that
might
look
like
in
the
future,
but
I
think
it's
you
know.
E
I
Because
if
that
keeps
happening,
then
nobody
else
has
an
opportunity
to
participate
right.
So
maybe,
by
virtue
of
forcing
somebody
out
of
a
certain
place
that
may
or
may
not
mean
that
they
could
go
to
another
border
commission
or
that
that
may
mean
to
take
a
break
and
they
come
back
or,
however,
that
that
looks.
But
I
think
it's
really
more
about
not
trying
to
discourage
but
to
really
encourage
people
to
want
to
to
participate.
C
We've
seen
that
over
the
last
few
years,
there's
a
lot
of
applicants
for
the
different
boards
and
commissions.
You
know
it's
unfortunate,
like
we
say
whoever
the
mayor
is
up
here.
You
know
please
keep
applying
if
you
didn't
get
appointed,
there's
always
openings
and
any
any
border
commission
that
you're
interested
in
please
apply
but
go
ahead.
Councilwoman
referred
us.
G
C
G
Going
back
to
the
term
limits
for
the
boards
and
commissions
I'll
restate
my
support
for
the
term
limits.
What
I
what
I
meant
to
say-
and
I
apologize
if
I
said
it
wrong-
is
we
have
a
commissioner
a
on
the
tree,
hugging
committee?
I
don't
want
to
pick
on
any
pacific
border
commission
and
they've
been
there
for
three
terms.
G
They
can
apply
for
another
different
border
commission.
I
just
don't
want
them
on
the
tree,
hugging
commission,
for
more
than
three
terms,
because
I
want
to
open
it
up
for
other
folks
and
it
keeps
fresh
blood
fresh
perspectives
coming
in,
but
that,
commissioner,
that
already
has
been
there
for
three
terms.
He
knows,
or
she
knows
that,
oh
the
next
time
I
got
to
start
thinking
about,
maybe
the
planning
board,
or
maybe
the
fire
code
of
appeals.
Commission,
that's
what
I
want.
I
don't
want
the
commissioners
to
have
to
take
two
years
off.
G
C
K
The
the
only
other
comment
I
would
have,
mr
mayor,
is
that
if
this
were
a
business,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
value
in
having
cross
training.
You
have
better
efficiencies,
better
synergies,
so
I
agree
with
the
concept
of
hey.
You
know
if
you've
done
12
years
on
transportation,
maybe
you
want
to
take
some
of
that
experience
over
to
sustainable
burbank
or
vice
versa,
or
something
entirely
different.
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
value
there,
but
that'll
be.
C
K
No
no
yeah,
that
was
my
point,
was.
I
think
the
intent
is
really
clear
that
the
term
limit
would
apply
to
the
position
that
you're
holding,
for
example,
former
mayor
gable,
luddy,
you
know
after
leaving
office,
went
to
the
airport
authority,
and
you
know
I
think
it's
our
intent
that
that
wouldn't
be
prohibited.
You
know
under
under
this
change,
so
yeah
we're
in
agreement.
C
T
Well,
you
know
we
had
a
great
experience.
I
want
to
thank
all
our
liaisons.
They
were
really
informative.
We
learned
a
lot
and
got
a
big
education.
One
of
the
things
we
kept
hitting
our
head
against
is
some
of
our
ideas
and
thoughts
were
actually
could
be
covered
in
code
or
an
ordinance.
They
weren't
really
a
charter
perspective.
So
there
were
some
things
we
wanted
to
bring
into
the
conversation,
but
it
was
like
well
that
can
be
handled
by
a
code
that
can
be
handled
by
an
ordinance.
T
So
there
were
there
were
like,
and
then
we
also
talked
about
rank
voting,
but
we
found
out
through
our
education
because
our
elections
are
handled
by
the
county.
They're
not
set
up
for
rank
voting,
which
is
something
that
this
mullen
said
is
a
trend
in
communities
to
incorporate
ranked
voting.
So
there
were
several
other
things
that
we
did
behind
the
scenes
that
weren't
represented
in
some
of
the
body
of
the
work
we
did.
T
We
really
wanted
to
continue
the
oral
communications
hybrid
model.
Listen,
you
know.
Most
communities
have
video
conferencing
for
oral
communications
and
that
so
there
were
a
couple
of
things
and
I'll
reach
out
to
you
guys
privately
through
email
after
this
is
done,
and
let
you
know
some
of
those
things
that
we
were
kind
of
led
to
believe
should
be
better
handled
by
the
council
through
a
code
or
an
ordinance
thing.
That's
that's.
T
AA
Gavin,
I'm
a
member
of
this
committee.
I
want
to
thank
councilmember
schultz
for
his
trust
in
me
for
being
part
of
this
committee.
This
has
been
a
great
experience
to
learn
more
about
the
city
of
burbank,
but
then
also
to
bring
sort
of
a
newer,
fresher
perspective
to
some
of
these
things,
especially
something
as
relevant
as
the
as
a
city
charter.
I
don't
have
anything
of
real
substance
to
add.
AA
I
just
want
to
thank
the
staff
that
was
with
us
through
this
process
and
then
for
also
the
members
of
the
committee
for
engaging
in
some
really
fruitful
discussion,
and
I
look
forward
to
hopefully
seeing
some
of
these
changes
implemented
to
move
burbank
into
a
more
sustainable
and
brighter
future.
So
thank
you
all.
V
Gloria
salas-
and
I
will
also
reiterate
I
do
want
to
thank
councilwoman
sharon
springer
for
choosing
me,
but
this
experience
was
a
little
bit
different
from
five
years
ago,
when
I
was
on
the
committee
simply
because
I
think
this
one
with
city
attorney,
mcdougall
and
city
manager,
assistant
city
manager,
judy.
They
allowed
us
more
participation
and
there
was
a
lot
more
give
and
take
and
a
lot
more
discussion.
At
least
that's
how
I
feel
that
we
had.
V
It
just
seemed
that
they
were
more
open
to
listening
and
allowing
us
to
keep
going,
and
I
also
want
to
give
kudos
to
viviana
garzon,
because
she
was
always
there.
She
knew
what
we
had
discussed
previously
and
was
keeping
us
on
track,
and
so
it
was
a.
I
think
it
was
a
much
more
enlightening
experience
than
it
was
five
years
ago
and
it's
to
do
to
city
staff
and
how
they
led
us
through
this.
So
thank
you
again,
great.
AB
C
I
C
G
C
You
before
we
start
the
conversation,
I
was
going
to
ask
my
colleagues
if
we
can
go
ahead
and
put
this
off
until
vice
mayor
is
back,
so
this
is
a
very
important
appointment.
All
our
boards
and
commissions
are
very
important,
but
this
one
in
particular
the
planning
board,
is
a
very
important
position.
So
I'd
like
to
have
all
five
council
members
here,
so
I
would
like
to
ask
my
colleagues
if
they
agreed
to
move
it
to
another
day.
C
G
Your
consideration,
mr
mayor,
you
know
in
the
nine
years
this
is
the
first
time
that
I've
seen
two
and
I
know
a
lot
of
people
have
approached
me
at
different
community
events
with
the
support
of
the
council.
Just
because
they're
two
and
the
importance
of
the
planning
board
and
having
all
five
of
us,
I
was
wondering
if
the
council
would
possibly
entertain
directing
our
city
clerk
to
re-advertise
for
another
30
more
days,
because
normally
we
get
between
five
and
eight
applicants,
and
I
don't
know
it's
because
of
summer
vacations.
G
G
C
C
So
that's
when
we
have
put
it
up
in
my
recollection
that
we
put
it
off
another
30
days
without
the
city
clerk.
To
put
it
up,
you
know
to
post
that
again
and
see
what
happens.
Everybody
had
a
chance.
It's
advertised,
you
know
whether
you're
on
vacation
or
not,
I
mean
you.
Can
you
can
get
online
and
submit
your
application?
You
don't
have
you
can
be
in
greece
and
call
in.
D
C
C
K
But
I
understand
the
concern
that
you
have,
mr
mayor,
because
in
the
event
that
there
were
a
2-2
tie,
let's
say
we
have
no
way
to
break
it
and
I
would
want
not
want
to
create
a
situation
where
we
have
two
weeks
and
you
have
folks
lobbying
the
council
to
switch
a
vote
or
break
a
tie
in.
In
my
opinion,
it
would
be
appropriate
because
the
planning
board
is
so
critical
that
we
wait
to
have
a
full
council
to
do
that.
K
F
G
There's
no
interest
all
I've
done
was
asking.
I
mean
I
I'm
happy
with
the
two
candidates
I'm
just
going
just
like.
I
don't
know
just
because
I
again,
my
only
comment
is
because
I'm
happy.
If
we
take
the
vote
now,
I
know
who
I'm
voting
for,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
I
just
I'm
surprised
for
the
planning
board.
G
Yeah
I've
never
seen
I
mean
use
it's
five
to
eight
candidates
and
I've
been
approached
several
times
at
different
communities
and
hey
tell
me
you
know
I
want
to
be
on
the
planet,
but
hey
get
hold
of
the
city
clerk
and
you
know
find
out
when
that's
the
only
reason
why
but
hey
if
it's
not
there,
it's
okay,
I'm
not
upset.
I'm
just
asking
to
ask:
that's
it.
C
G
G
G
G
I
know
the
mayor
was
pushing
for
burbank
to
have
its
own
cova
testing
and
I
did
get
coveted
and
I
stayed
home
for
the
10
days.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
not
to
get
anybody
sick
on
the
council,
but
I
got
gotta
tell
you,
you
did
an
awesome
push
because
I
use
the
services
there
at
the
park
user
friendly
within
18
hours.
There's
a
text
message
positive
or
negative,
but
you
get
kudos
for
that
for
pushing
it
for
the
people
of
burbank.
I
took
advantage
of
it.
I
know
a
lot
of
residents.
K
L
You
guys
so
much
springer
great.
Thank
you.
I
saw
my
colleagues
at
several
of
these
events.
I
did
attend
the
advisory
council
on
disabilities
meeting.
I
zoomed
a
skag,
equitable
home
ownership
forum
and
are
the
resource
cards
for
the
domestic
violence.
Task
force
are
finished,
and
so
we
should
probably
make
sure
they
have
some
right
sure
and
I
went
to
the
one-year
memorial
for
the
victims
of
the
collision
on
glen
oaks.
I
packed
backpacks
at
for
the
coordinating
council
and.
C
You
just
a
few
items
to
report
out.
Let's
see
I
I
spoke
with
and
met
the
kids
for
take
your
child
to
work
day.
That
was
very
exciting.
I
had
lunch
with
a
semi
member
of
friedman.
I,
like
my
colleagues,
attended
the
national
night
out.
It
was
great
to
see
the
community
out
there.
I
mean
it
was
a
great
turnout.
C
I
was
there
when
they
opened
the
store
a
year
ago
to
to
do
the
ribbon.
Cutting
and
they've
been
very
successful
there.
They
love
it.
It's
almost
like
a
it's
almost
like
a
hobby
for
them,
they're
only
open
friday,
saturday
and
sunday,
let's
see
and
attended
the
burbank
non-profit,
coalition's
back
to
school,
fair,
a
lot
of
kids
there
and
yesterday
I
had
a
tour
of
the
providence
st
joseph
foundation
emergency
department,
so
that
was
amazing.
C
The
new
emergency
room
over
at
dangerous
amazing
you'll
be
amazed
when
you
walk
through
there
compared
to
what
I
remember
from
the
old
days.
Anything
else.
Okay.
Now
is
the
time
to
for
the
introduction
of
additional
agenda
items.
Do
members
of
the
council
have
any
items
to
introduce
sponsor
mayor
fruitos.
G
Is
there
any
way
we
can
update
the
council
attendance
policy,
because
if
you
missed
three
meetings
in
a
row,
then
it's
up
to
the
council
to
the
majority
council
to
remove
you
I'd
like
to
see
that
updated
that
if
you
do
have
covit
some
people
get
it
up
to
90
days
that
that
be
exempt,
because
we
don't
know
what
the
next
strain
of
covet
would
be,
but
to
update
it
to
include
cova
to
be
an
exemption.
If
the
council
decides
when
it
comes
back.
Thank
you.
C
I
K
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
so
in
light
of
our
conversation
at
the
last
meeting
about
public
comment
and
tonight's,
a
report
from
the
charter
review
committee,
it
occurred
to
me
that
we
have
a
resolution.
It's
number
17-28970
which
govern
the
protocol
at
council
meetings.
It
is
now
inconsistent
with
what
we've
discussed
last
time,
and
so
I'd
like
to
have
a
future
agenda
item
as
soon
as
possible.
Madam
city
manager,
about
harmonizing
that
resolution
with
our
discussion
and
I'd
personally
like
to
talk
about
the
length
of
time
for
public
comment,
final
orals
things
of
that
nature.