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From YouTube: Burbank Police Commission Meeting - July 20, 2022
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Burbank Police Commission Meeting - July 20, 2022
A
A
B
Members
of
the
public
who
attend
the
meeting
in
chamber
will
speak
first,
followed
by
those
phoning
in
their
comments
and
also
we
are
masked
this
evening.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
everybody
to
speak
a
little
bit
louder
and
make
sure
it
gets
through
the
masks
call
to
order.
B
Can
we
have
the
roll
call?
Please.
D
B
Good.
Thank
you.
Our
flags
flag
salute
this
evening
is
going
to
be
led
by
commissioner
perusin.
Everybody.
B
B
Now
we're
going
to
go
on
to
commission
announcements
and
reporting
out
by
commissioners
we'll
start
with
mr
romack.
Do
you
have
anything.
E
Happy
public
commissioner
cobium.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Chapman
happy
to
report
dating
back
to
july
june
23rd.
I
attended
the
community
academy
class.
The
topic
was
forensic
evidence
collection
and
the
met
program
on
june
24th.
E
The
chief
was
kind
enough
to
join
in
a
conversation
with
a
board
member
school
board,
member
emily
weisberg
at
the
burbank
pd
office.
In
this
conference
room
it
was
wonderful
because
emily
is
a
good
friend
of
mine
and
she
had
never
gone
to
the
burbank
pd
before
never
had
a
connection
to
the
department.
E
So
the
chief
and
her
had
a
really
great
dialogue
about
regarding
gun,
violence
and
sros,
and
you
know
keith
did
a
great
job
of
making
a
distinction
between
what's
happening,
burbank
and
what's
happening
in
the
rest
of
the
country,
and
you
know
it
was
a
really
great
dollar
between
the
two.
So
I
really
appreciate
you
for
doing
that,
and
on
june
june
30th
I
attended
the
community
academy
class.
It
was
the
topic
was
use
of
force
and
fraud
and
id
theft.
E
On
july
5th,
commissioner
coombs
and
I
met
with
assembly
member
laura
friedman
and
her
staff
regarding
gun,
violence
and
legislation
of
the
legislative
actions,
and
I'm
going
to
let
commissioner
coombs
consistently
let
the
conversation
report
on
that
and
on
july
7th
and
to
attend
the
community
academy,
and
the
topic
was
traffic
motors
and
gangs
and
then
on
the
16th
again
community
academy,
which
was
range
day,
which
is
so
much
fun.
E
F
Yes,
thank
you
just
want
to
share
that.
F
You
know
I
last
month
attended
the
vigil
for
victims
of
gun
violence
and
thanks
to
commissioner
cobian
and
and
amy
and
others
who
organized
that
event
and
a
lot
of
our
electeds
were
there
and
the
chief
was
there
as
well,
so
really
appreciated
that
event
and
those
efforts
and
also
attended
a
community
meeting
with
council
members
schultz
and
anthony
around
again
steps
that
city
council
is
taking
around
gun
safety
in
burbank
and
just
want
to
note
for
everyone
that
next
tuesday
july
26,
I
believe
council
will
be
taking
up
an
emergency
ordinance
around
gun
stores
and
some
other
topics
related
to
gun
safety.
F
G
Coombs,
thank
you,
chair
chapman
couple
of
items
continuing
to
attend
the
community
academy
with
commissioner
okobian
and
elman.
It's
going
great.
The
second
item
is,
we
did
have
a
brief
meeting.
This
was
actually
a
non-non-commission
related,
but
it
was
related
to
gun
safety.
Talking
with
assembly
member
friedman
in
advance
of
a
town
hall
that
she
was
hosting
to
talk
about
some
common
sense,
firearm
safety
and
pending
legislation.
G
I
attended
the
ice
cream
social
with
with
the
department
and
with
the
chief
that
was
a
fantastic
event.
Huge
turnout,
really
good
dialogue,
which
was
that
was
the
part.
That's
the
most.
The
ice
cream
is
great,
but
the
the
the
dialogue
and
the
ability
to
engage
the
community
is
is
is
really
special
and
it
was.
It
was
a
really
positive
event,
so
I'm
hoping
to
see
more
events
like
that
be
able
to
participate
in
that,
and
the
fourth
item
I
have
is:
I
received
notification.
G
G
This
information
has
been
provided
to
the
city
clerk
and
I
don't
think
it's
gone
out
yet,
but
there
should
be
an
announcement
going
out
in
the
near
future
about
a
pending
vacancy
on
the
on
our
commission.
B
Good.
Thank
you,
commissioner
coombs
commissioner
liu.
H
Thank
you.
Just
as
an
amendment
to
the
announcement
for
commissioner
turner
or
the
the
alert
actually
came
out
yesterday.
I
believe
that
they
are
now
accepting
applications
for
the
position.
I
think
it
closes
on
august
18th,
so
anybody
who's
interested
in
applying
for
the
commission
can
do
so,
and
then
I
believe
at
a
subsequent
city
council
meeting
on
september,
is
when
they
will
be
appointing
the
new
commissioner
and
don't
have
too
much
to
add.
On
my
side
I
also
attended
the
vigil
for
gun
violence
last
month.
H
B
Excellent,
a
little
follow-up
to
commissioner
turner's
resignation.
I
was
very
sad
to
see
that
happen.
I'm
sorry
that
she
could
not
continue
with
us.
She
had
an
important
voice
on
our
our
commission.
B
B
B
J
Hey
good
evening
to
you
it's
pleasure,
to
be
here
last
night,
I
also
attended
the
meeting
where
the
council,
the
city
council,
came
together,
the
school
board
and
the
police
and
all
three
divisions
put
in
a
lot
of
work
to
try
and
reduce
reckless
driving
and
the
vice
mayor.
Vice
mayor
anthony,
I
call
him
vice
mayor
doofus.
He
kind
of
took
the
wind
out
of
everybody's
efforts
when
he
admitted
and
boasted
and
bragged
that
he
as
a
younger
man
was
a
knucklehead
driver.
J
Wrecked
four
cars
was
involved
in
speeding
and
street
racing,
and
all
this-
and
here
we
are
trying
to
set
there-
was
you
know,
also
teenagers
in
the
in
the
audience,
and
he
just
eviscerated
all
the
hard
work
that
everybody
had
done.
That's
that
was
my
feeling
of
it.
A
total
idiot.
J
It's
like
a
father
saying
to
a
son.
Don't
do
this,
but
by
the
way
I
did
it
when
I
was
your
age
and
I'm
okay
and
he
went
on
to
brag
that
he
was
a
an
uber
driver
and
everything's
fine
and
we're
trying
to
stop
this
behavior.
So
that
was
my
feeling
about
it
and
he
wasn't
kidding
when
he
said
he
was
a
a
problematic
driver.
J
This
is
a
bench
warrant
for
his
arrest
in
the
amount
of
eight
thousand
dollars
and
it
has
to
do
with
driving
infractions
and
he
tried
to
say
he
missed
a
stop
sign
and
he
is
a
liar.
You
don't
get
an
eight
thousand
dollar
bench
horn
for
rolling
through
a
stop
sign.
Okay,
I
don't
know
if
you
folks
had
anything
to
do
with
moving
the
auspices
of
the
animal
shelter
to
the
parks
and
recreation
I've
been
calling
for
that
for
decades
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
it
was
finally
done
now.
J
J
No
competition
and
I've
been
talking
for
decades
about
how
wrong
this
is.
I've
talked
to
glenn
bell,
dave,
newsham,
lechase
and
every
other
police
officer
in
between
except
this
man.
I
haven't
talked
with
him
about
it,
but
this
is
a
horrific
situation.
It's
straight
out
of
the
sopranos
to
get
a
no-bid
contract
and
the
citizens
of
burbank
are
getting
screwed,
go
to
yelp
and
read
the
reviews
of
of
how
we
are
being
treated.
I've
never
had
any
business
with
them.
J
You
know
if
if
the
city
puts
it
out
to
bid
and
nobody
bids
and
they're
the
only
bidder,
that's
fine,
but
you
got
to
give
other
people
a
chance
to
bid,
because
this
is
a
money-making
operation
and
we're
talking
big
money.
I
looked
at
their
website
today,
if
you,
if
they
tow
your
car
in
at
11,
59
p.m,
and
you
redeem
it
at
1201
a.m.
That's
two
days,
two
days:
storage
and
it's
brutal.
These
fees.
Now
that's
a
different
subject,
because
they're
all
all
these
companies
are
like
that.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
K
All
right,
can
you
hear
me:
okay,
okay,
good
evening,
commissioners
and
chair
chapman,
my
name
is
tamela
takahashi
23-year
resident
of
burbank.
I
have
three
items
to
share
with
you
tonight.
K
First,
I
wanted
to
share
with
the
commission
that,
if
you
maybe
you've
already
heard
that
this
weekend,
a
new
988
nationwide
mental
health
emergency
line
went
online
as
a
saturday.
The
primary
goal
of
the
new
number
is
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
call
for
help
in
emotional
distressing
situations
and
in
particular
with
suicide.
K
A
secondary
benefit
of
this
number
is
that
roughly
two
percent
of
calls
can
be
diverted
to
this
number
and
don't
need
a
physical
local
response,
so
nationwide
2
percent
of
local
police
response
can
be
diverted
to
988..
It
is
possible
for
the
burbank
pd.
Is
it
possible
for
the
burbank
pd
to
promote
this
new
number
to
our
community
and
help
us
learn
more
about
it
and
when's
the
best
time
to
use
it?
K
It's
on
the
police
department's
website
and
I
think,
if
it's
still
available
program,
it
would
be
great
to
have
it
promoted
in
the
community
for
folks
to
be
reminded
on
gun
safety
as
part
of
the
gun
safety
conversation,
it's
at
the
burbankpd.org
community,
slash
outreach
or
dash
outreach,
slash,
gun,
safe
gun
dash
safety,
so
community
dash
outreach,
slash
gun,
dash
safety.
You
can
look
up
on
the
website.
K
Lastly,
I
would
like
to
thank
bpd
for
all
of
the
community
outreach
that
you
have
been
doing
online
with
your
coffee
and
ice
cream
events.
I
was
really
disappointed.
I
couldn't
go
to
the
ice
cream
event
and
the
community
academy
national
night
out
is
also
coming
soon.
I
think
that's
august
2nd
right
yeah.
I
can
see
how
these
take
a
lot
of
work
for
your
staff
and
and
police
to
do
so.
I
wanted
to
appreciate
your
doing
it
and
I
came
across
this
great
article.
K
I
happened
upon
it's
from
police
chief
magazine
called
prevention-focused
community
policing,
building
public
trust
and
it
was
written
by
police
chief
gene
ellis
in
belton
texas,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
important
points
in
this
article.
But
a
couple
that
I
felt
might
really
resonate
with
you
and
you're
already
doing.
And
I
think
it's
a
great
thing
to
highlight.
K
The
first
one
is
the
concept
of
a
servant:
guardian
police
force,
there's
a
really
high
approval
rating
for
that
that
perspective
on
the
police
force
and
second,
a
prevention
focus
that
prioritizes
the
elimination
of
crime
conducive
conditions
and
includes
in
identifying
opportunities
that
criminals
will
exploit
and
educate
the
community
on
how
to
eliminate
these
opportunities.
And
I
particularly
remember
that
when
we
had
our
discussion
about
magnolia
park
and
the
businesses
and
continuing
that
that
partnership
with
our
community.
So
thank
you
for
your
consideration
in
my
comments
and
have
a
great
rest
of
your
meeting.
L
Good
evening,
how
are
you
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak,
I'm
kind
of
winging
this
I
didn't
expect
to
speak,
but
I
did
want
to
just
make
you
aware
some
of
you
already
know
about
my
grassroots
group.
It's
called
together
weekend
burbank.
L
L
We
came
together
just
to
help
work
with
the
community
and
be
that
grassroots
group
to
bring
all
of
the
the
city
council
our
school
board,
our
police
officers,
your
group,
our
police
commissioners,
together,
so
that
we
can
work,
as
our
name
says,
together
that
we
can
bring
traffic
safety
a
priority.
We've
been
working
with
our
school
board
and
hopefully
we'll
have
a
week-long
traffic
week.
Safety
week
in
the
high
schools
come
this
fall,
or
at
least
this
season
we've
been
working
with
john
paramo,
so
we're
really
trying
to
educate
and
then
keep
our
community
aware.
L
So
we
have
a
instagram
site
that
you
can
find
us
on.
If
you
want
to
contact
us
romick,
we
work
with
a
lot
as
well
he's
been
a
great
advocate
for
us
so
and
so
have
you
james.
So
they
have
our
information,
but
if
there's
anything
you
want,
we
will
have
a
booth
at
national
night
out,
so
we
will
be
just
talking
to
the
community
and
we
are
here
to
promote.
L
B
Excellent.
Thank
you
very
much
it's
time
for
commissioner
comments,
but
I'm
oh,
I'm
sorry
have
have
we
received
any
yes,
oh
good.
B
M
You
for
good
evening,
thank
you
for
having
me
my
name
is
jason
lewis,
I'm
a
fellow
citizen
commissioner,
and
I'm
in
my
second
year
at
the
transportation
commission,
and
I
apologize
for
not
being
there
in
person.
I
have
a
prior
engagement.
M
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
sharing
the
traffic
data.
We
just
received
that
and
discussed
it
on
monday
at
transportation
commissions
meeting,
and
we
do
see
some
really
good
trends
overall
and,
however,
you're
going
to
see
some
disturbing
trends
tonight
and
not
just
the
events
that
make
the
news,
and
I
think
the
reason
why
I
want
to
call
tonight
and
just
say
my
couple
minutes
is,
I
think
collaboration
is
key
among
all
commissions,
and
I.
N
A
M
Collisions
but
engineered
roadways
help
prevent
them
from
happening
in
the
first
place,
and
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
collision
data,
especially
with
pedestrians
and
bicycle
bicycles,
presented
or
available
more
than
once
a
year.
M
I
I
don't
know
what
the
good
frequency
that
is,
but
receiving
it
once
a
year
seems
to
be
a
bit
too
infrequent,
and
I
think
that
feedback
from
citizens
is
one
way
to
find
out
how
traffic
changes
are
being
received,
and
another
is
the
actual
traffic
data,
and
I
do
look
forward
to
a
joint
meeting
which
I've
requested
between
our
two
commissions
and
working
towards
the
shared
goal
of
a
safer
burbank
for
everyone
who
travels
no
matter
what
mode
they
choose.
G
Commissioner
coombs,
thank
you
if
I
may
first
off.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
to
all
our
folks
that
have
made
comment
tonight
regarding
the
animal
shelter.
I
think
that
precedes
the
work
of
this
particular
commission
as
far
as
the
movement
from
separating
it
from
the
brewing
police
department.
So
I'm
appreciative
of
of
the
work
that
was
done
before
we
even
got
here.
G
I'm
going
to
make
a
recommendation
later
on,
I'm
going
to
be
actually
making
a
couple
of
recommendations
this
evening,
motions
for
for
subcommittee
work
because
there's
some
work
that
I
think
that
we
can
do
outside
of
the
work
of
the
commission
to
be
able
to
respond
to
some
of
the
comments
came
up.
For
example,
it
would
be
very
useful
for
a
small
group
of
us
to
do
some
research
around
the
contracting
process,
so
we
can
report
on
that
at
future
meetings,
so
I'll
be
making
that
recommendation
later
on
this
evening.
G
Thank
you
for
for
lifting
up
the
nationwide
mental
health
emergency
line.
I
was
on
vacation
this
past
week
and
I
was
I
got
to
watch
it
on
the
news
it
was
coming
up,
but
I'm
very
aware
that
we
were
preparing
to
do
this
and-
and
I
do
think
it's
a
good
idea-
that
we
that
we
promote
that
within
burbank.
Is
it
possible
to
ask
a
chief?
Is
it
possible
ask
for
just
a
real
quick
question
to
get
an
answer
on
the
on
the
the
gun?
Lock
piece?
Is
that
still
available.
O
G
No
problem
the
the
website
does
indicate
that
folks
can
come
to
the
counter
to
request
a
free
gun
lock
at
the
police
department.
Is
that
still
a
program
that.
O
Is
still
available,
we
check
on
it,
you
know
every
every
two
weeks
and
we
have
a
bountiful
supply
of.
G
Gun
locks,
fantastic.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
that
and
again
kudos
to
all
the
events
have
been
going
on
in
the
community
as
well
also
appreciative
of
the
opportunity
to
work
with,
with
together
we
can,
with
commissioner
kobien
and
with
dory
and
the
rest
of
the
crew,
my
condolences
to
the
vehicles
continuing
to
get
hit,
and
if
I
wish
we
had
an
easy
solution
to
that,
but
I
do
appreciate
that
we're
working
on
that
together.
G
As
far
as
the
phone
call
goes
from
from
commissioner
commissioner
lewis
from
the
transportation
commission
this
again,
I
want
to
make
a
recommendation
a
motion
later
on
that
we
do
some
subcommittee
work
because
it
would
be
good,
especially
after
watching
last
night's
city,
joint
city
council,
school
board.
Meeting,
I
think
doing
some
work
outside
between
meetings
would
be
really
helpful
for
all
of
us.
The
important
thing
is,
I
just
want
to
encourage
us
all
to
have
an
agenda
walking
into
those
meetings.
G
So
that
way
we
know
specifically
what
we're
working
on
my
understanding-
and
I
know
we
don't
have
miss
oh
here
tonight
and
chief.
I
can't
really
put
you
on
the
spot
about
this,
but
if
we
have
three
or
fewer
commissioners
from
any
particular
commission,
that
would
not
violate
the
brown
act.
If
I,
if
I
believe
that's
correct
that.
O
Is
my
understanding?
Okay,
so
I
think
you'll
be
just
fine.
F
Yes,
I
you
know
want
to
echo
many
of
the
things
that
commissioner
coombs
said.
I
won't
repeat
them,
but
just
to
say
that
you
know
regarding
the
traffic
safety.
That
is
something
that
I've
been
trying
to
focus
on
a
bit,
and
so
we
do
have
a
you
know
a
pending
request
for
for
some
of
that
data
with
the
department.
F
They
have
a
lot
of
priorities,
so
you
know
they
got
to
work
it
in
there
when
they
can,
which
which
I
understand,
and
but
I,
but
I
would
be
interested
in.
You
know,
continuing
on
that.
I
plan
to
continue
doing
that,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
continuing
that
conversation
with
the
other
with
another
commission
that
you
know
as
it
relates
and
also
with
the
community.
P
E
Hoggobian,
thank
you,
commissioner
chavin.
I
just
want
to
thank
all
the
public
comments
for
coming
in
tonight.
I
want
to
also
do
you
want
to
repeat
what
commissioner
commissioner
cummings
and
commissioner
forzan
said,
but
also
I
got
the
same
words
but
miss
takahashi.
E
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
you
know
for
the
resources
and
something
that
I
was
not
aware
of
at
all
and
I'm
tethered
with
commissioner
coombs
and
I'm
understanding
his
world
mental
health,
and
I
really
appreciate
you
sharing
that
and,
and
also
echoing
what
she
said
about
the
burbank
pd
social
media.
I
do
social
media
marketing
and
I
am
literally
like
addicted
to
clicking
on
the
story
to
see.
What's
next,
you
know,
and
it's
been
fantastic
because
you
get
to
see
the
activity
that's
coming
to
the
community.
E
You
get
to
see
what
they're
doing
in
the
community.
So
it's
great
for
transparency
and
also,
finally,
with
you
know,
together
we
can
dori.
Thank
you
so
much
for
coming
down
and
providing
your
public
comment.
It's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
you
yolanda
and
the
rest
of
your
team.
You
know
really
excited
about.
What's
going
on,
what's
the
what's
to
come,
you
know
we
are
working
on
the
west
coast,
customs
psa
with
ryan
fedelingas
and
his
team
he's
the
ceo
of
west
coast
customs
and
should
be
exciting.
H
Thank
you,
commissioner
chapman.
It
won't
add
too
much
more.
I
think
a
lot
of
the
other
commissioners
said
a
lot
of
what
I
had
to
respond
to,
but
one
thing
that
I
did
want
to
point
out
was
thank
you
to
all
of
the
people
who
provided
commentary,
because
a
lot
of
the
comments
today
are
directly
tied
with
some
of
the
agenda
items
that
we
will
be
discussing
today.
H
So
I
think
that'll
be
really
good
context
and
and
color
for
us
to
consider
when
talking
and
asking
questions-
and
I
think,
to
follow
up
with
commissioner
faruzan's
note
on
this
ongoing
work
that
we've
been
doing
and
trying
to
get
some
data.
Thank
you
to
commissioner
lewis
for
calling
in
because
I
do
think
that
that
that
you
know,
traffic
safety
is
a
joint,
a
joint
endeavor
with
with
the
transportation
commission
and
totally
on
board,
with
working
together
and
leveraging
the
data
that's
available
to
come
to,
hopefully
a
productive
solution
there.
B
Commissioner,
ellen
no
okay,
I
think
everybody
covered
pretty
well.
I
I
too
would
like
to
thank
the
people
for
presenting
this
evening.
It's
important
that
the
commission
hear
from
the
public
both
concerns
and
and
kudos.
B
I
think
I
it's
an
excellent
excellent
that
everybody
showed
up
this
evening
or
called
in.
B
B
Have
a
motion
for
a
second
commissioner
coombs
in
a
second
from
mr
those
that
are
in
favor,
raise
your
hand
right.
I
good
it's
unanimous.
Oh
I'm!
Sorry,
no.
B
First,
one
is
presentation,
discussion
and
possible
recommendations
on
the
department's
traffic
safety
efforts,
including
those
implemented
following
the
august
3rd
1920
2021,
fatal
traffic
accident
on
glen
oaks
boulevard
and
I'm
not
sure
who's
going
to
be
giving
our
presentation
this
evening.
But
would
you
step
up.
B
It
looks
like
it's
officer,
froman,
yeah
good
evening,.
Q
Good
evening,
chair
chapman,
mr
coombs
commissioners
and
staff,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
to
you
tonight.
I'm
going
to
be
discussing
with
you
the
traffic
safety
update
after
we
had
the
unfortunate
tragic
collision
at
glen
oaks
and
andover
in
august
of
2021,
I'm
lieutenant
john
frommer.
I
got
a
nice
little.
Q
Okay,
so
I'm
lieutenant
john
frommer-
and
I
am
running
right
now-
the
traffic
bureau,
which
includes
motor
officers,
parking
control
officers,
parking
citation
management
as
well
as
film
permits,
and
they
all
tie
in,
even
though
on
on
face
value.
It
may
not
seem
so,
but
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
on
that
I
want
to
get
into
the
collision.
This
occurred
on
august
3rd
2021
at
11,
49
p.m.
Q
Q
S
S
One
passenger
an
18
year
old
female,
was
ejected
from
the
vehicle
she
was
transported
to
the
l.a
county
medical
center.
Her
condition
is
not
known
at
this
time.
Police
say
it
is
going
to
be
some
time
before
they
can
identify
the
victims
or
even
determine
how
many
victims
there
are.
This
is
a
very
tragic
accident
officers
here
on
scene,
saying
it's
one
of
the
worst.
They
have
seen.
T
It's
a
horrific
scene,
it's
a
it's
just
it's
it's
a
tragedy,
there's
multiple
fatalities
in
the
vehicle.
This
is
this
is
a.
This
is
a
tough
one.
Speed
was
involved.
Initial
investigation
is
it's
a
single
vehicle
accident
and
there's
no
other
vehicles
involved.
U
A
candlelight
vigil
was
held
sunday
night
in
burbank
for
five
people
killed
in
a
fiery
car
crash.
All
five
of
the
victims
were
in
their
late
teens
and
early
twenties.
The
single
car
crash
also
left
one
person
injured
in
the
early
hours
of
saturday
morning
near
the
scott
road
off
ramp
of
the
phi
freeway.
The
18
year
old,
female
passenger,
who
managed
to
escape
from
the
burning
sedan,
was
being
treated
for
non-life-threatening
injuries
at
los
angeles,
county
usc
medical
center.
U
The
cause
of
the
crash
is
still
under
investigation,
but
burbank
police
sergeant,
darren
ryburn,
said
speed
may
have
been
a
contributing
factor.
Burbank
unified
school
officials
said
monday
that
grief
counselors
spent
the
day
at
two
burbank
high
schools
to
help
students
and
teachers
cope
with
the
loss.
R
R
V
W
X
X
The
three
were
killed
in
a
fourth
friend
injured
when
they
were
in
this
volkswagen
that
was
struck
by
kia.
That
police
say
was
racing
with
a
mercedes.
Last
week
about
50
people
held
a
rally
outside
burbank
city
hall,
tuesday
evening
to
demand
action
to
prevent
street
racing
demonstrators
say
they
want
more
enforcement
because
cars
race.
Here
too
often
the
demonstration
happened
during
a
city
council
meeting
that
was
not
open
to
the
public.
Q
The
reason
I
show
that
it's
the
longest
video
in
this
presentation,
the
reason
why
I
show
that
is,
I
want
to
show
and
the
support
amongst
the
community
from
the
police
department,
other
cit,
all
the
other
city
departments
that
we
all
echo
enough
is
enough.
When
it
comes
to
this,
I
think
we
all
saw
the
emotion
in
the
family,
the
tragedy
and
the
community
members
that
came
together
to
march
on
city
hall
and
state
that
they
don't
ever
want
to
see
these
types
of
images.
Again,
unfortunately,
it
replayed
itself
from
2013
to
2021.
Q
the
burbank
police
department
is
going
to
be
involved
in
two.
A
two-pronged
approach:
there's
actually
three
aspects
that
we
should
all
be
familiar
with:
it's
education,
enforcement
and
engineering.
The
engineering
is
not
my
specialty
or
the
police
department,
that's
the
public
works
and
the
traffic
engineers
office,
but
we
work
closely
hand
in
hand
with
them.
Q
It
was
fantastic
to
have
conversations
with
citizens
such
as
ms
dory
foster
her
the
fellow
members
that
started
together,
we
cam
burbank,
lisa
and
yolanda-
to
get
the
stakeholders
of
the
community
involved,
because
now
they
are
assisting
with
that
outreach
and
that
educational
portion
fantastic
to
hear
we've
been
working
with
her
to
try
to
get
more
information
and
more
time
in
the
high
schools
where
we're
trying
to
reach
these
young
drivers.
Q
I
think
you
saw
in
those
two
video
clips
right
there
that
those
unfortunate
collisions
those
tragedies
occurred
early
morning
hours
with
young
drivers
that
tends
to
be
overwhelmingly
the
young
drivers
are
the
ones
that
are
involved
in
this
dangerous
driving.
Behavior.
Okay,
give
you
a
little
background
on
the
fatal
collisions
in
the
city
of
burbank
and
went
back
just
to
go
back
to
2017
through
2022
year.
Q
To
date,
we've
had
22
fatal
traffic,
collisions
okay
of
those
22
there's
nine
vehicle
versus
pedestrian
collisions
six
vehicle
versus
vehicle,
five
motorcycle
collisions
and
two
vehicle
versus
bicycle
collisions
of
those
total
22.
There
was
four
that
were
dui,
collisions
or
subjects
driving
while
impaired,
and
that
could
be
just
pure
alcohol
or
a
mixture
of
alcohol
and
drugs.
Q
Q
Q
That's
when
you
have
the
vehicles,
pedestrians,
bicyclist
motorcycles
coming
into
conflict.
However,
now
speed
is
involved.
So
when
the
speed
is
involved,
it
reduces
the
reaction
time
of
the
driver
to
react
to
dangers
on
the
roadway,
such
as
a
child,
a
bicyclist,
a
skateboarder
running
it
riding
out
into
the
street.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Sometimes
that's
not
so
it's
10
12
15
miles
per
hour
over
the
posted
speed
limit,
which
is
getting
into
a
dangerous
area,
interagency
collaboration
with
the
glendale
police
department.
I've
worked
very
closely
with
their
traffic
bureau.
Lieutenant
now
promoted
to
a
captain
but
a
lieutenant
toby
darby.
Q
Let
people
see
that
we're
out
there
and
then
get
people
to
slow
down.
The
effect
has
been
very
good.
The
operation
we
did.
We
did
this
on
june
4th
200
enforcement
stops
with
190
traffic
citations.
I
could
tell
you
within
an
hour
gleno.
We
focused
on
the
hillside
and
on
glen
oaks
on
both
sides
of
the
borders
of
our
city,
and
I
could
tell
you
within
an
hour
it
was
a
ghost
town
on
glenoaks
boulevard.
Q
Q
We've
expanded
the
hours
of
the
field
deployment
for
officers
specially
trained
in
traffic
operations.
We
have
it
and
created
a
dui
enforcement
team
who
are
specially
trained
in
impaired
driving
as
well
as
traffic
enforcement.
We
now
have
hours
till
two
three
o'clock
in
the
morning
throughout
the
week.
Q
That's
not
every
day
we're
still
trying
to
get
a
couple
more
officers
involved
in
the
dui
enforcement
team
so
that
six
seven
days
a
week,
we
will
have
traffic
offers
officers
until
three
o'clock
in
the
morning.
This
has
had
a
great
impact,
we're
seeing
more
rest,
more
citations
and
more
of
a
focus
on
traffic.
Q
Last
thing:
the
secure
we're
securing
grant
funding
through
the
california
office
of
traffic
safety.
This
isn't
new
for
the
burbank
police
department.
We
we
try
to
do
this
every
year,
however,
we've
sought
additional
funding
from
them
which
they
have
provided.
This
funding
is
federal
dollars
that
actually
comes
from
the
national
highway
transportation
traffic
safety
administration
called
nitsa.
Q
That
money
is
given
to
the
california
office
of
traffic
safety.
We
get
it
in
the
form
of
selective
traffic
enforcement
program
grant.
It's
called
a
step
grant,
and
I
I
have
more
information
in
here
about
that
last
year,
was
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
secured
in
that
grant
fund
this
year,
they've
advised
us
that
it
appears
we'll
have
a
tentative
agreement
to
have
a
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars,
but
that
is
not
finalized.
At
this
point,.
Q
Enforcement
results
from
august
4th
to
december
31st
to
2021
so
the
day
after
the
fatal
traffic
collision
in
glen
oaks
andover
until
the
end
of
the
year
of
2021.,
you
can
see
that
we
focused
heavily
on
the
hillside,
other
major
thoroughfares
in
the
city,
with
speeding
problems.
We
issued
1
468
speed
citations.
Q
If
you
look
at
this
distracted
driving,
which
is
also
a
cause
of
several
of
our
collisions
in
town
people
on
their
cell
phones,
people
not
paying
attention,
we
had
354
citations.
The
speed
citations
at
that
time
was
just
under
50
percent
of
our
total
citations
for
traffic
enforcement
for
the
motor
officers
alone.
Q
So
we
focused,
we
put
an
emphasis
on
that
because
we
wanted
to
get
people
to
slow
down
january
1st
of
2022.
Through
yesterday
july,
19th
of
2022
we've
issued
1
460,
speeding,
citations
and
we've
issued
1093
distracted
driving
citations.
So
you
could
see
the
distracted
driving
citations
on
the
right
on
a
sharp
increase.
Q
Q
If
you
see
from
that
video
a
lot
of
hand
left
turning
movements,
you'll
see
people
in
a
rush,
you'll
see
some
of
these
traffic
collisions
that
don't
really
make
sense
as
to
why
the
driver
was
able
to
be
involved
in
the
collision.
They
were
involved
in.
So
a
lot
of
this
has
to
do
with
not
paying
attention
distracted,
driving
the
speed
involved
is.
Q
Q
We're
asking
for
120
000
so
that
we
can
increase
our
collaborative
efforts
with
the
city
of
glendale
and
a
couple
other
programs
that
I'll
talk
about
here
in
a
later
slide
that
we
want
to
we're
having
early
discussions
about
joining
some
other
departments
and
some
of
their
task
force.
Q
The
federal
fiscal
year
for
the
ots
is
october
through
september.
Just
to
give
you
a
basis
of
when
we
would
receive
that
funding,
we
usually
get
awarded
near
the
end
of
july.
We
have
to
come
before
city
council
to
get
approval
on
the
grant
and
then
once
that's
approved
and
finalized,
we
will
receive
the
the
opportunity
to
work,
the
grant
which
is
paid
back
to
us.
The
city
pays
for
it
up
front
and
we
get
reimbursed
through
the
program,
the
programs
that
we
run
through
this
we
do
dui.
Q
I
think
commissioner,
ellen
you've
been
out
to
a
few
of
these.
I
would
welcome
any
of
the
commissioners
that
want
to
come
out
to
our
dui
checkpoints
or
any
of
the
other
operations
that
we
do.
We
have
the
dui
checkpoints
with
dui
saturation
dui
saturation
is
putting
more
officers
in
vehicle
input,
marked
patrol
vehicles,
full
uniform,
looking
for
dui
or
impaired
drivers,
primary
collision
factor
enforcement,
that's
traffic
enforcement,
so
primary
collision
factor
is
when
the
officers
do
a
collision
investigation,
they
determine
what
the
primary
collision
factor
was.
Was
it
speed?
Q
Was
it
dui?
Was
it
unsafe?
Turning
movements,
you
basically
go
through
the
whole
vehicle
code
and
determine
what
caused
that
collision
we
like
to
through
this
grant.
We
can
focus.
I've
already
shown
a
few
videos
of
that
left-hand
turning
movement.
That
is
a
big
violation
in
the
city
and
it's
a
big
cause
of
a
lot
of
collisions
in
the
city.
So
we'd
like
to
focus
primarily
at
certain
intersections.
Q
Where
we're
seeing
this
problem,
we
would
use
that
opportunity,
through
the
grant,
funding
to
specifically
work
that
primary
collision
factor
bicycle
enforcement,
pedestrian
enforcement,
motorcycle
enforcement,
as
well
as
the
traffic
safety
presentations
that
we
like
to
do
and
those
can
focus
on.
They
have
to
be
geared
towards
the
topics
listed
here.
We
can't
go
and
create
our
own
program
or
our
own
campaign
to
get
the
grant
funding
for
it
to
do.
Q
This
was
a
big
endeavor,
the
chief
orchestrated
this.
This
was
done
through
our
cops
bureau
and
our
traffic
bureau
lieutenant
derek
green.
I
don't
know
if
you've
had
an
opportunity
to
have
him
present
in
front
of
you
yet,
but
his
bureau
and
our
bureau
created
a
mindfulness
for
young
drivers
course
in
the
burbank
unified
school
district.
A
lot
of
this
was
done
through
the
superintendent
matt
hill,
john
paramo
and
burbank
high
school,
as
well
as
john
burroughs
high
school.
This
course
consisted
of
three
separate
modules.
Q
Q
As
far
as
the
doing
the
enforcement
asset
aspect
for
traffic
safety,
as
well
as
getting
their
understanding
of
what
to
expect
when
they
start
driving
on
our
roadways,
one
just
over
1
350
9th
grade
students
that
were
able
to
attend
these
three
courses
we're
in
discussions
on
expanding
this.
Q
The
traffic
safety
messages
that
we're
also
releasing
on
our
bpd
are
burbank
police
department,
social
media
platforms,
our
pio
sergeant,
brent
feckerty,
has
done
a
fantastic
job.
Working
with
us.
We've
tried
to
do
more
modern
videos
that
will
reach
out
to
a
younger
driver
as
well
as
every
driver,
instead
of
focusing
on
one
group
we're
trying
to
make
it
for
all
drivers.
Q
Q
Y
Y
And
the
speed
problem
bleeds
onto
our
freeways
too,
which
involves
the
chp
they
have
seen
a
in
terms
of
100
mile
per
hour,
plus
citations
and
87
percent
increase.
Overall,
since
april
police
are
asking
drivers
to
just
slow
down
and
wear
your
seatbelt
and
if
you're,
a
passenger
in
a
speeding
car,
they
say,
take
a
stance
demand
that
the
driver
slow
down
or
call
9-1-1.
Y
Investigators
say
that
anytime,
you
drive
fast,
you
have
less
time
to
react
to
a
problem,
and
injuries
will
be
much
greater.
The
criminal
consequences
also
go
up
too,
when
you
speed
right,
along
with
tougher
civil
penalties
and
if
you're,
a
speeding
driver
who
happens
to
survive
a
wreck
that
kills.
Somebody
else
prepare
for
your
own
emotional
trauma.
N
Y
Drivers
are
encouraged
to
simply
back
off
the
accelerator,
allow
some
extra
time
to
get
to
your
destination,
so
you
can
stay
within
the
speed
limits
and,
most
importantly,
get
there
safely
alive
and
in
one
piece
and
police
say
try
to
drive
defensively
that
way,
you'll
be
more
prepared.
Should
things
start
falling
apart
all
around
you
in
hollywood,
I'm
rick
chambers,
guys,
let
me
throw
it
back
to
you.
Q
The
speeding
and
reckless
driving
issue-
we've
recognized,
is
increased
sharply
after
coven
19
as
a
result
of
our
roadways
being
empty.
The
burbank
police
department
has
been
proactive
in
obtaining
training
and
education
in
this.
We
do
not
currently
have
a
street
takeover
organized
street
racing
problem
in
the
city
of
burbank.
It
surrounds
our
our
community.
You
see
inglewood
los
angeles
places
out
south
places
out.
Q
East
such
as
we
had
out
in
san
bernardino
out
in
fontana,
had
a
most
recent
incident
in
the
news
with
the
street
takeover,
but
the
issue
can
come
here
at
any
moment.
These
are
organized
online
through
social
media.
You
get
these
car
groups
that
will
pop
up.
They
will
share
the
information
and,
with
within
an
hour
one
subject
posting
this
information
could
turn
into
five
to
ten
thousand
vehicles
on
our
streets
that
are
specifically
modified
and
equipped
for
racing.
This
is
what
we
don't
want
to
have
happen
in
our
city.
Q
The
primary
thing
we're
looking
for
just
giving
you
the
codes
for
22
350
of
the
vehicle
code
for
unsafe
speed
and
23
103
of
the
vehicle
code
for
that's
the
reckless
driving
and
that
can
become
a
misdemeanor
or
a
felony.
The
felony
portion,
if
you
injure
or
kill
somebody
in
a
reckless
driving
incident,
can
become
a
felony
charge.
Q
Q
All
those
officers
have
gone
to
modified
exhaust
and
training
on
how
to
identify
when
a
vehicle
engine
or
parts
have
been
modified
and
the
ability
to
send
them
to
the
bar
state
referee.
I
could
tell
you
from
the
information
we
obtained.
Some
of
these
cars
are
so
heavily
modified
that
once
we,
if
we
issue
a
citation
to
send
them
to
the
state
referee,
the
charges
and
fines
are
so
hefty
that
they
end
up
just
selling
their
cars
because
they
can't
afford
to
pay
for
the
penalties.
Q
The
goal
that
we
want
to
have
this
is
why
I
sent
to
the
office
that
we
have
sent
the
officers
to
the
training.
We
can
pick
them
off
one
by
one,
but
it's
hard
once
they
reach
three
five.
Ten
thousand
in
number,
then
we're
just
pushing
them
out
of
an
area
rather
than
having
an
impact,
and
then
we
just
push
them
to
another
community
and
that's
what's
happening
right
now.
Q
We
like,
as
we
get
them
one
by
one,
send
them
to
the
state
bar
of
the
referee.
We
can
deal
with
that
car
and
that
that
racing
vehicle
at
that
point
and
then
hopefully
put
an
end
to
the
possibility
that
they're
going
to
be
racing
through
our
town.
Q
We
are
currently
in
discussions
with
eli
there's
an
lapd
chp,
california,
highway
patrol
task
force
specifically
for
street
racing
and
street
takeovers.
We
are
currently
in
discussions
with
them
on
creating
an
mou
on
our
potential
cooperation
with
them
and
participation
by
allowing
some
of
our
motor
officers
to
be
on
this
task
force.
And
then,
if
we
were
to
it,
becomes
collaborative
to
the
point
where,
if
we
have
a
street
takeover,
a
street
racing
incident
in
our
town,
that
we
need
assistance
with.
By
being
a
part
of
this
task
force.
B
Great,
thank
you
lieutenant
do
any
of
our
commissioners
have
any
questions
very
nice
presentation.
Thank
you,
sir
sir.
G
G
G
Okay,
thank
you.
So
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
I
feel
like
I'm
getting
to
know
you
lieutenant
fairly.
Well,
although
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
really
get
to
know
me
or
any
of
us
simply
because
the
number
of
presentations
that
you've
done
over
this
past
year,
so
I
want
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that
you're
having
an
impact,
your
willingness
and
and
other
other
members
of
the
staff's
willingness
to
meet
with
the
with
the
public,
has
been
incredibly
powerful.
So
I
just
wanted.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
G
You
I
wanna.
Let
me
start
with
this.
You
you
said
that
there
are
three
things.
Let
me
find
my
list
real,
quick.
You
said
that
there
are
three
things
that
can
be
done
that
are
being
done
to
to
address
street
racing.
As
a
side
note,
I
I
see
sometimes
there's
a
reference
to
illegal
street
racing.
Let
me
start
with
this:
is:
is
there
legal
street
racing
in
burbank.
Q
There
is-
and
this
is
what
is
typically
to
be
encouraged-
is
there's
certain
places
where
you
can
go
pay.
You
have
to
actually
pay
fees
and
get
permitted,
but
they're
actually
drag
strip
tracks
or
race
tracks
to
get
involved
in,
what's
called
legal
racing.
What
we
don't
want
that
to
do
is
to
be
on
our
public
streets
on
a
street
racing
track,
it's
controlled,
it's
permitted
and
there's
safety
involved
and
there's
safety
personnel
there
for
if
there's
a
crash
to
deal
with
that
problem,
this
is
what's
not
happening
on
our
city.
G
And
for
clarification,
there
is
no
legal
street
racing
in
burbank.
No,
there
is
no
okay,
all
right.
So
you
you
made
reference
to
education,
enforcement
and
engineering,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
know
has
been
very
frustrating.
I
got
a
chance
with
commissioner
kobian
with
together
we
can
and
with
a
number
of
community
members,
I'm
really
appreciative
of
the
work.
One
of
the
things
that
there's
a
lot
of
frustration
about
is
committee.
Members
want
to
make
street
racing
and
excessive
speed,
stop
and
there's
there's
a
piece
of
it.
G
I
I
work
in
mental
health
and
is,
is
I
I
playfully
say
this,
but
as
long
as
people
have
mental
health
issues,
I
have
a
certain
element
of
job
security.
In
my
life
I
see
that
playfully,
because
we
can't
we
can
do
what
we
can
to
manage
it,
but
we
can't
make
it
go
away,
and
so
my
concern
is,
is:
is
there
a
way
through
education
enforcement
engineering?
Are
there
any
tried
and
true
ways
to
stop
street
racing.
Q
This
is
america
and
we
have
a
dedicated
car
culture
and
we
always
have
yeah.
We
love
our
cars
and
we
love
our
muscle
cars.
So
unfortunately,
we
need
to
control
that,
but
ever
since
there
was
the
first
muscle
car
somebody
was
breaking
the
speed
limit.
Can
we
100
stop
this?
What
I
can
control
and
can't
control?
I
cannot.
Q
None
of
our
officers
can
control
the
personal
decision-making
ability
of
every
driver,
it's
when
they
decide
that
they
are
going
to
speed
and
speed,
and
let's
talk
about
excessive
speeds
of
double
the
speed
limit,
triple
the
speed
limit
that
I
cannot
control,
because
that
can
happen
at
any
time.
If
I
know
what's
going
to
happen
ahead
of
time,
if
we
have
intelligence
information
or
we
find
out
through
some
of
the
social
media
platforms
that
are
open
to
the
public,
and
we
find
that
this
incident
is
coming
to
burbank.
Q
I
can
control
that
because
we
can
send
officers
there
and
stop
that
what
I
can't
control
is
the
one-offs,
such
as
the
one
on
glen
oaks
and
andover
young
drivers,
just
decided
they
were
going
to
race
each
other
driving
down,
glen
oaks,
boulevard
and
the
results
are
tragedy.
So
can
we
stop
that
100
percent?
You
know
I
got
to
be
honest
with
you.
I
can't
we
cannot.
Q
Can
we
do
everything
in
our
power
to
educate
everybody
on
the
consequences
of
these,
that
bad
decision
making
100
and
that's
what
we're
working
hard
to
do?
Get
that
information
out
there
and
that's
what
our
community
members
are
doing
is
they're
now
helping
us
get
that
word
out
there
and
that's
what
we
need
to
continue
to
do.
G
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
I
just
I
want
to
emphasize
it's
it's
not
to
minimize
the
issue,
but
it's
to
emphasize
that
that
we
will
can
and
will
continue
to
do
everything
we
collectively
can.
The
thing
that's
frustrating
is
that
there
there
may
always
be
incidents
that
that
end
up
happening,
but
we
I
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
try
to
prevent
this
from
happening.
G
It's
just
it's
just
frustrating
to
know
that
to
know
that
we
can't
just
stop
it
completely,
but,
as
you
mentioned,
that's
that
is
part
of.
G
Unfortunately,
that
is
part
of
our
culture,
our
car
culture,
so
so
education
enforcement
engineering,
I'm
as
a
side
note
I
just
want
to
share
with
everybody-
is
last
night
and
and
other
meetings
I
periodically
put
them
on
in
the
background,
and
my
family
members
will
listen
in
on
them
and
I
think
I'm
kind
of
driving
them
nuts
a
little
bit
with
it,
but
it
also
inspires
a
lot
of
conversations,
and
so
there
was
actually
a
com
from
the
presentation.
G
Last
night
there
was
a
conversation
that
took
place
while
we
were
on
vacation
and
it
was.
I
have
a
family
member
who
actually
happened
to
be
he
wasn't
in
the
class,
but
he
happened
to
be
president.
He
was
he
was
a
ta
for
during
during
one
of
the
cl
during
one
of
the
classes
that
was
being
prevented
presented
by
burbank
and
a
comment
that
he
made,
which
I
thought
was
really
interesting.
G
I
wanted
to
share
with
it
here
is
that
he
had
he
he
was
aware
of
who
was
paying
attention
and
who
wasn't
paying
attention
and
one
of
his
concerns
that
he
raised
last
night.
It's
the
kids
that
aren't
paying
attention
that
we
want
to
reach
the
most.
So
I
this
is.
This
is
coming
from
an
18
year
old
recent
graduate.
G
So
I
just
wanted
to
lift
that
up
that
there's
an
appreciation
for
the
class,
but
there's
also
an
awareness
that
the
people
that
should
be
listening
are
not,
and
so
I
wanted
to
put
that
out
there.
There
was.
There
were
also
comments
last
night
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
here
as
well,
about
about
mandatory,
like
identifying
tracking
keeping
keeping
folks
on
a
list
of
sorts
to
track
frequent
speeders,
especially
amongst
teens
and
everything.
G
Are
there
any
legalities
related
to
that
to
be
able
to
put
somebody
on
a
watch
list
for
either
excessive
speeding
or
that
we're
afraid
that
they
might
start
to
engage
in
excessive
speeding?
Is
there?
Is
that
all
even
allowed.
Q
Yeah,
so
to
touch
on
that
there's
a
lot
of
legalities
that
are
going
to
be
involved
in
that,
first
and
foremost,
I
know
there
was
a
discussion
about
the
schools
sharing
that
information
with
the
pd
giving
access
to
a
database.
You
got
to
remember
with
the
database
there's
a
lot
of
rules
and
regulations
that
come
with
keeping
a
database.
First
and
foremost,
you
have
to
identify,
what's
going
to
be
called
criminal
activity,
and
then
it
has
to
reach
a
certain
threshold
before
you're
keeping
a
database,
and
that
has
to
be
very
controlled
and
confidential.
Q
We're
also
dealing
with
juveniles
at
the
schools,
even
more
stringent
regulations
and
policies.
Regarding
that,
I
don't
think
we,
I
don't
think
the
community
would
be
wise
to
start
doing
such
a
thing
as
keeping
a
database
on
juveniles
for
this
information
that
can
be
abused,
released
out
to
the
pub
you
know
hacked
released
to
the
public.
However,
it
is
something
that
there
should
there
could
be
discussion
about,
but
there
are
some
legalities
that
that
would
have
to
be
discussed
before.
That
would
ever
be
something
that
capable
of
completing.
Q
Yes
and
the
the
dmv
has
a
database
on
every
violation
where
we
cite
somebody
or
arrest
somebody
for
a
traffic
violation,
there's
a
point
system
for
the
dmv
before
they'll,
suspend
or
revoke
your
license
for
dangerous
or
bad
driving,
behavior,
so
on
a
dmv
printout.
The
officers
will
have
access
to
that.
Q
But
from
what
I
understood-
and
what
I
understood
is
that
this
would
be
from
the
conversation
last
night.
Would
this
be
more
of
an
information
sharing
from
being
identi
bad
driving,
behavior
identified
by
non-police
non-sworn
police
officers,
which
you're
going
to
have
some
issues
with
that
as
well?
Yeah.
G
G
You
shared
what
happened
in
the
joint
activity
between
burbank
and
glendale,
and
you
mentioned
that
glen
oaks
became
a
ghost
town
which
the
message
got
out
so
so
with
that,
I
know
that
the
police
department
has
been
doing
a
lot
around
social
media
to
get
these
things
out,
especially
like
when,
when
vehicles
are
impounded,
those
have
an
impact
and
the
the
actual
post
may
not
actually
indicate
much.
G
But
if
we
read
through
the
comments
to
those
posts
you're
seeing
the
community
respond
to
that,
so
we
know
that
the
message
is
getting
out
there
in,
in
your
opinion,
is
there
anything
related
to
engineering
that
can
stop
street
racing
or
stop
excessive
use
of
speed.
Q
You
don't
always
hear
the
other
opinions
and
there's
a
lot
of
opinions
that
do
not
like
all
the
traffic
control
device,
very
frustrated
from
getting
to
from
point
a
to
point
b,
that
used
to
be
a
five
10
minute
drive
is
now
a
30
minute
drive,
which
is
not
always
traffic
congestion,
but
also
traffic
control
devices.
So
there's
areas
where
I
think
smart
engineering
is
needed,
the
schools,
the
senior
living
centers,
the
elderly
day
care
centers.
Q
I
think
these
things
need
to
be
protected
because
we
need
to
protect
our
community,
especially
those
that
would
be
at
a
disadvantage
for
bad
driving
behavior.
So
I
think
that's
very
important.
However,
there's
other
sections
of
the
city
where,
from
moving
transporting
items
or
getting
from
point
a
to
point
b,
are
very
important.
Q
You
could
engineer
everything,
but
then
studies
out
there
have
shown
just
to
give
you
an
example.
Everybody
wants
a
stop
sign
at
their
intersection
because
they
think
that's
going
to
get
everybody
to
slow
down
all
you
do
when
you
put
stop
sign
after
stop
sign
after
every
intersection.
Is
you
frustrate
drivers
who
are
simply
trying
to
drive
down
the
street
so
what
they
do?
Is
they
don't
slow
down?
Q
They
roll
through
the
stop
signs
when
they
think
nobody's
coming
from
the
other
directions
and
they
accelerate
from
a
high
rate
of
speed
from
one
stop
sign
to
the
next.
So
it
doesn't
there's
no
perfect
solution
to
this.
However,
smart
engineering
does
help
and
will
prevent
it'll,
definitely
prevent
illegal
street
racing.
G
And
I
think,
where
we're
seeing
the
most
impact
as
quickly
as
possible
is
around
the
education
piece,
whether
it
be
in
the
school
district,
whether
it
be
the
the
public,
the
psa
campaign
that's
being
put
together.
Commissioner,
kobe
has
been
working
on
that
with
together
we
can
with
burbank
police
department,
with
the
support
of
burbank
water
and
power,
and
others
really
looking
forward
to
seeing
west
coast
customs
step
in
because,
as
you
mentioned,
when
you
start
when
we
started
the
comments,
is
that
we're
talking
about
car
culture?
G
E
You,
commissioner,
chapman
thank
you
lieutenant
former
for
the
presentation
question
when
you
guys
are
doing
this
educational
piece
with
the
bosc.
Are
they
seeing
videos
like
this?
These
graphic
videos
of
car
crashes.
Q
E
Yeah-
and
I
would
have
to
say
that
you
know
thank
you
for
doing
that,
because
that
certain
piece
is
very
crucial
and
very
important
because
it
seems
like
it
takes
a
certain
amount
of
visual
content
to
really
register
with
these
children,
because
you
know
putting
yourself
in
the
psychological
in
the
state
of
19
was
the
17
to
24.
I
believe
that
that's
the
age
range
putting
them
and
putting
yourself
in
that
psychological.
E
You
know
understanding
and
just
a
story,
a
story
I
want
to
share
with
the
commission
for
and
everybody
here,
my
cousin's
19
years
old
and
he's
my
best
man
at
my
wedding.
So
today
we
were
driving,
we
were
picking
up
our
suits
and
we
were
in
my
car
and
I
drive
a
2021
camaro
6.2
liter.
It's
about
480
horsepower,
wonderful
car,
it's
my
third
one.
I
just
love
gm.
I
love
the
engineering.
E
I
drive
like
a
grandmother
and
my
my
cousin,
you
know,
loves
the
car
and
I
asked
him
because
he
drives
a
1999
toyota
camry.
I
told
him
I'm
like.
If
you
had
my
car,
what
would
you
do
with
it?
First
thing
he
says
is:
I
would
drive
fast
and
I
asked
him
I'm
like
I'm
like
what
would
you
make
you
want
to
do
that
he's
like
because
the
car
has
the
ability
to
do
that,
so
that
was.
That
was
one
thing.
The
other
thing
I
asked
him
was
I'm
like.
E
Do
you
drink
and
drive
he's
like
no,
I'm
like
why
he's
like,
because
my
mom
would
kill
me
you
know.
So
it
seems
like
the
perception
towards
street
racing
and
the
way
they
view
duis
and
other
you
know
other
other
other
topics
like
it's.
It's
interesting
because
they're
street
racing,
for
some
reason,
is
not
a
big
deal
in
that
world.
It's
like
I'll
get
a
ticket
I'll
get
the
car
unpounded,
but
for
a
dui
my
parents
will
kill
me
I'll,
go
to
jail
et
cetera.
E
Q
A
Q
Yes,
is
it
good
to
hammer
them
initially
on
the
first
violation,
or
should
it
be
tiered,
and
should
there
be
some
education
behind
that?
Just
give
you
an
example,
there's
a
group
called
street
racing
kills.
Unfortunately,
some
some
of
the
schools
are
turned
off
by
the
fact
that
it
says
kills,
but
unfortunately
that's
a
truth.
It
does.
It
does
kill,
but
it's
actually
very
good.
Q
They've
actually
entered
into
a
system
with
the
lot
city
of
los
angeles,
where
some
of
these
young
offenders
first
time
offenders
for
reckless
driving.
Instead
of
sending
them
to
to
the
juvenile
court
to
get
fines
and
penalties,
they
do
a
deferred
judgment
to
where
they
they
are
going
to
send
them
to
this
educational
class
with
street
racing
kills.
That's
something
we're
interested
in
pursuing
and
having
discussions
about
the
educational
aspect
of
of
what
the
consequences
are
and
what
can
potentially
happen
are
going
to
pay
off.
As
we
mentioned
before,
about
predictable
is
preventable.
Q
E
Absolutely
okay!
Well,
thank
you
so
much
for
that,
and
is
there
any
way
the
community
can
help,
because
I
know
that
we
can't
you
know.
I
remember
it
was.
I
believe
council
member
fruit
was
two
years
ago
was
when
the
pandemic
first
started.
I
reached
out
to
you
because
the
the
epidemic
that
the
crazy
street
race
saying
during
during
the
lockdown
was
absolutely
insane
and
I'd
reached
out
to
you
and
had
a
conversation
I
know
visually
as
a
community
member.
Q
I
think
the
sharing
of
information
is
good
if
we
can
identify
the
vehicles
because,
unfortunately,
not
your
average
citizen
can
issue
a
traffic
citation.
So
the
officers
have
to
witness
this
information.
If
there's
a
criminal
aspect
like
a
misdemeanor
or
felony
crime
involved,
then
yes,
citizens
can
be
involved
and
do
citizens
arrest
under
that
nature,
but
just
reporting
the
information
is
going
to
be
different
than
actually
detaining
somebody.
So
sharing
that
information
with
us
where
we
can
actually
get
vehicle
descriptions
with
license
plates.
That's
that's
that's
enormous
to
us.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner,
frozen.
F
Yes,
thank
you
again
for
the
presentation,
just
kind
of
a
follow-up
to
what
commissioner
kobien
and
you
were
speaking
about
in
terms
of
you
know
educating
as
a
first
step,
and
then
you
know.
If
if
the
behavior
doesn't
change,
then
there
would
be
other
types
of
consequences.
F
And
so
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
just
share-
and
I
don't
know
you
know
if
there
are
so
many
different
variations
if
it's,
if
it's
feasible
or
not,
but
to
share
a
few
of
what
are
the
consequences
for
speeding
and
reckless
driving
here
in
burbank
and
is
that
prescribed
by
you
know
the
city
and
city
ordinances
or
is
that
coming
down
to
the
state
or
even
federal
government?
F
And
you
know,
are
there
sort
of
progressive
consequences,
whether
that
be
a
fine
or
the
charge
issued?
And
that
kind
of
thing?
And
I
guess
I'll,
just
I'll
start
there,
because
yeah.
Q
So
the
penalties
on
speeding
are
going
to
be
there's
a
there's,
a
basic
fine,
and
these
are
done
through
the
courts
right.
So
some
of
this
information
is
going
to
be
laid
out
in
the
vehicle
vehicle
code
and
some
of
this
information
is
done
through
the
courts
and
it's
per
county.
So
there
can
be
differences,
we're
in
los
angeles
county
here,
but
understand
that
the
police
officers
don't
designate
a
fine
attached
to
the
citation
that
we
issue
for
vehicle
code
violations
that
is
done
through
prosecution
through
the
court
process.
Q
It
is
progressive
as
well
if,
if
you
were
to
get
three
red
light
violations,
your
second
and
third
violation
within
a
given
time
period
is
it's
going
to
be
a
harsher
financial
penalty?
Fine
amount
criminally
it's
on
the
basis
of
the
crime.
You
don't
take
somebody's
you're,
not
always
going
to
be
able
to
take
someone's
prior
criminal
history
and
introduce
that
in
every
prosecution
case,
but
that
the
penalties
could
be
one
two
three
years
and
that's
done
by
the
vehicle
code
and
the
penal
code.
Q
Those
penalties,
there's
a
minimum
sentencing
and
there's
a
maximum
sentencing
and
there's
the
ability
sometimes
to
reduce
the
crimes
from
a
felony
to
a
misdemeanor
to
an
infraction.
But
those
are
done
through
the
courts
and
through
the
negotiations
between
city
attorney,
district
attorney
and
and
and
the
court.
F
Okay
and
and
so
a
question
is
there
what
a
lot
of
these
are
young
people
with
cars
that
may
be
designated
for
their
use,
but
are
likely
owned
by
their
parents
or
a
guardian,
or
somebody
like
that.
So
how
does
it
work
in
terms
of
you
know?
It's
a
young
person
that
has
you
know
been
speeding
and
in
are
the
fines
consequences,
charges
things
like
that?
Are
they
just
assigned
to
the
youth
or
is
there
something
in
addition
to
that?
Q
And
these
are
the
conversations
that
why
it's
important
for
the
parents
to
have
the
conversations
with
their
young
drivers,
especially
if
they're
juveniles,
because
remember
not
not
all
of
them,
are
going
to
have
jobs
summer
jobs
or
part-time
jobs.
Some
some
of
them
are
just
strictly
students
or
at
the
student
athletes.
Q
It's
usually
going
to
be
the
parents,
if
you're
paying
for
your
child's
your
juvenile
child's
car
insurance.
Those
fines
are
hefty
upon
certain
violations
and
the
parents
are
going
to
be
the
ones
that
have
to
pay
if
they
want
to,
let
their
young
driver
continue
to
drive
they're
going
to
be
paying
very
expensive
premiums
for
their
car
insurance
after
certain
violations
occur.
B
Q
We
do
I
I
actually
thank
you
for
reminding
me
that
I
left
that
out
of
the
presentation
we
worked
with
burbank
water
and
power
actually
to
reach
that
to
reach
our
community,
because,
with
the
utilities
bill
of
water
and
power,
we
knew
they
had
a
large
community
audience
for
us.
So
we
worked
with
them
to
release
this
information.
Q
It's
in
a
newsletter.
They
do
a
quarterly
newsletter
that
we
put
this
information
in
and
and
they
do
flyers
with
their
mailers
as
well,
but
we
did
release
that
information
with
them
and
it
actually,
commissioner
jokovian,
was
very
helpful
with
that.
So
it
was
a
great
project
and
it
turned
out
very
nice.
We
had
some
help
with
the
city
computer
graphic
designer
who
did
a
fantastic
job,
and
the
information
I
think
was
very
concise
and
to
the
point,
but
education.
B
Is
there
anything
currently
now
we
have
you
described
what
what's
going
on
right
now,
that
sounds
like
not
driver
education
and
the
fact
of
how
to
steer
a
car
right,
but
what
to
avoid?
As
far
as
as
legal
ramifications
has
there
been
a
period
of
time
when
there
has
been
nothing
and
are
we
seeing
a
response
to
that
now,
with
the
higher
increase
in
street
racing,
for
example,
is
there
like
for
a
couple
of
years
ago,
was
there
no
education
at
all.
Q
Right
so
I
can
tell
you-
I
personally
can't
speak
intelligently
about
this,
because
I'm
not
100
familiar
with
the
busd
school
curriculum,
but
I
can
tell
you.
I
do
have
knowledge
that
the
traditional
drivers-
training
education,
that
we
would
have
went
through
when
we
were
young,
were
used
in
high
school.
They
stopped
doing
that
and
have
transitioned
to
where
they
used
a
third
party
contracted
company,
a
driver
education
company
to
actually
teach
these
young
members
to
drive,
and
these
things
are
mandated
through
the
dmv
for
them
to
get
their
learner's
permit.
Q
But
I
know
that
it
transitioned
away
from
the
high
schools
is:
is
there
a
correlation
here
possibly?
But
I
haven't
personally
seen
a
study
on
this,
so
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
say
yes
or
no
on
that
topic.
B
In
the
in
the
programs
that
we
have
in
the
high
school
now
I
go
back
a
few
years,
I
had
a
68
camaro
new
at
that
time.
In
the
high
schools
we
had
driver
education
for
one,
but
we
also
had
was
called
the
movie
and
it
was
a
brutal
movie,
but
it
also,
I
think,
left
an
impression
in
people
that
you
know.
Maybe
you
need
to
be
a
little
bit
more
careful.
Is
there
something
it's
sort
of
like
scared
straight?
B
Q
Currently,
no
discussions
with
the
schools
as
far
as
the
students,
the
parents
and
school
boards
and
faculty
was,
it
was
they're
a
little
wary
of
showing
videos
of
that
nature.
You
know,
I
I
think
we
all
know
what
red
asphalt
was,
but
that's
something
they
were
diverting
away
from
that.
So
I
I
can't
tell
you
what
they
would
be
interested
in
having
in
that
arena,
but
I
know
they
wanted
to
steer
away
from
that
type
of
video.
B
All
right
excuse
me,
commissioner:
ellman.
I
Okay,
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
also
in
you
know,
watching
the
council
meeting
last
night
now
I
saw
a
lot
of
kudos
with
the
bsd
and
the
department
on
what
we're
doing,
but
yet
it
seems
so
pale
in
comparison.
I
What
mr
chapman
and
my
generation
went
through
the
driver's
education
was
a
full
semester
and
then,
after
you
finished
that
you
went
to
drivers,
training
and
you
were
in
the
trailer
with
the
simulator
and
then
you
we
tore
up
the
streets
and
donated
plymouth
furies,
but
we
were
there
for
a
full
semester
and
they
actually
taught
us
how
to
drive
and
we're
saying
it's
a
priority,
but
we're
not
doing
it
if
everything
it
seems
to
be
like
symbolic,
it's
like
driver's
education
light,
not
the
real
full
thing,
and
you
know
we
talk
about
engineering
technology.
I
I
Corporations
will
not
make
money
if
cars
like
camaros
are
not
selling,
so
they
allow
this
to
go
on.
I'm
getting
a
little
bit
too
talking
now,
but
I
think
there's
a
lot
that
can
be
done,
but
nobody
really
wants
to
do
it
hard.
You
guys
are
out
there,
but
there's
just
you
have
so
much
people
so
much
time
that
they're
here
and
there's
just
so
much
that
can
be
done,
but
I
think
it
has
to
be
really
fixed
with
technology,
because
I
don't
think
people
are
going
to
change.
I
I
think
once
mankind
got
two
horses
and
a
rider
on
each
horse,
they
raced
because
it's
in
human
nature
it
and
I
don't
think
we
can
change
people,
and
even
when
I
was
mr
chaplin's
in
our
age
we
had
cars
and
we
thought
we
were
thrilled
if
we
had
200
horsepower,
but
we
had
lines
dragstrip
orange
county,
erwindale
pomona.
We
had
places
to
race,
yes
and
that
doesn't
exist
anymore
on
the
same
scale.
I
Q
Q
Additionally,
it's
standardized
that
all
the
experts
in
traffic
could
weigh
in
on
this.
For
the
state
of
california,
we
can
make
it
a
state
initiative,
but
I
agree
with
you
more
can
be
done
and
is
that
a
good
forum,
yes,
sending
sending
our
young
drivers
out
to
random
schools
to
pick
up
the
information
and
learn
the
information?
Q
The
other
topic
you
talked
about
with
your
gps,
telling
you
the
speed
limit,
there's
current
legislation
at
capitol
hill
in
dc
talking
about
making
the
automakers
responsible
for
coming
up
with
that
technology,
but
that
can
take
years
to
come
up
with
something
that's
reliable
and
works,
because
we
all
know
when
it
doesn't
work.
Lawsuits
will
come.
So
they
need
to
find
something
that
works,
works
well
and
is
reliable.
Q
H
First
of
all,
thank
you
lieutenant
for
going
through
this
presentation.
I
do
want
to
commend
bpd
for
evidently
taking
steps,
even
since
you
know
the
unfortunate
accident
that
happened
late
last
year,
and
it's
great,
I
remember
the
meeting
that
was
that
we
had
a
presentation
on
this
last
year
and
it's
great
to
see
the
progress
that
has
been
made
since
then,
so
I
really
do
appreciate
it.
I
think,
just
through
this
conversation
that
we've
been
having
it
does
seem
like
a
theme
that
is
coming
up
both
on
the
education
and
the
enforcement
side.
H
Is
that
the
way
to
continue
making
progress
is
through
a
cumulative
effort?
You
know
like
continue
to
hammering
home
on
the
education
side.
This
is
a
really
big
deal
and
then
on
the
enforcement
side.
If
the
same
driver
is
sighted
several
times,
that
is
a
cumulative
kind
of
move
toward
real
action
in
terms
of
taking
them
off
the
streets,
or
you
know
true,
true
disincentive
for
them
to
behave
in
that
kind
of
way.
H
I'd
like
to
touch
on
both
on
the
education
side,
it's
great
to
hear
that
the
mindfulness
training
has
already
been
acted
and
that
there
was
a
lot
of
great
feedback
and
that
you've
also
worked
with
burbank
water
and
power
to
get
the
message
out
to
parents.
To
commissioner
hacobian's
point
about
you
know
the
kids
thinking
it's
really
not
that
big
of
a
deal
you
get
a
citation
and
then
move
on
with
your
life.
It
does
seem
like
the
education
component
is
great
in
school,
needs
to
be
enforced
and
needs
to
expand.
H
But
then
the
conversation
with
the
parents
is
also
a
big
piece
of
it
right
and
right
now
are
there
materials
that
are
being
sent
home
with
the
kids
like?
Is
there
a
way-
and
maybe
this
is
a
larger
conversation
at
the
usd,
but
is
there
a
way
that
the
parents
can
sign
off
on
the
training
and
you
know
sign
off
on
getting
the
materials
and
and
having
the
tools
to
have
those
conversations
with
their
kids
and
really
understand
the
ramifications
of
both.
You
know
the
financial
disincentives
that
you
pointed
out,
but
also
the
really
terrible.
H
Q
And
and-
and
I
think
those
discussions
should
be
had,
but
we
do
need
to
get
more
information
out
there
and
the
parent
involvement
that
you're
talking
about
would
be
amazing.
Maybe
there
are
local
insurance
companies,
auto
insurance
companies.
We
could
have
discussions
about
the
parents
sign
off
or
get
involved
in
certain
curriculum
and
can
say
they
participated
and
there's
a
good
driving
record.
Maybe
there's
a
reduction
in
premiums
I
mean.
Q
Could
there
be
an
incentive
behind
this?
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
the
community
can
think
about
and
come
up
with
some
pretty
good
ideas
about
how
to
get
the
involvement,
but
the
parent
involvement
that
you're
talking
about.
I
mean
to
us.
We
would
like
to
see
more
of
that,
knowing
what
your
child's
doing,
how
they're
driving
where
they're
going
that
would
be.
I
mean
that
would
be
good
for
our
entire
community.
H
I
completely
agree,
and
I
think
the
what
I'm
trying
to
kind
of
drive
home
here
is.
Yes,
it's
obviously
on
the
children
to
understand
what
is
going
on
and
at
that
age.
You
know
the
level
of
responsibility
varies
across
a
pretty
wide
spectrum,
but
it's
also
the
responsibility
of
the
parents
as
well,
so
to
the
extent
that
bpd
can
work
on
the
communications
through
multiple
channels,
because,
ultimately,
the
kids
are
the
ones
that
need
to
like
unders,
oh
I'll.
H
Okay,
I
was
just
saying
ultimately,
the
kids
are
the
ones
that
will
be
behind
the
wheel,
but
it
does
seem
like
so
much
of
this
is,
as
you
said,
an
education
piece
and
the
more
that
education
can
actually
drive
into
you
know
prevention,
then
the
enforcement
piece
of
it
hopefully
becomes
a
less
awful
task.
Yes,.
O
So
the
the
collaboration
with
busd
was
a
big
big
deal.
I'm
telling
you!
It
was
a
big
deal
that
council
member
schultz
of
bsd
board,
member
char
talbot
and
myself
and
john
paramo
within
the
week
after
this
accident.
O
There
was
a
lot
of
moving
parts
because
there's
a
curriculum,
that's
already
in
place
for
the
school
year.
How
can
we
be
introduced
into
that
curriculum?
And
I
think
it
was
related
to
health
sciences?
There
would
be
a
syllabus.
It
had
to
be
agreeable
to
bosd
our
folks,
lieutenant
frommer
and
his
staff,
and
one
of
our
detectives
spent
a
lot
of
hours
doing
creating
a
syllabus
that
would
actually
be
engaging
educational
and
interactive,
and
the
outcome
was
great,
but
there
was
a
hot,
a
lot
of
heavy
lifting
behind
it.
O
So
to
your
point,
as
far
as
parental
engagement,
the
one
ask
that
I
had-
and
I
said
it
right
from
the
get-go-
is
that
at
the
end
of
the
training
session,
in
fact,
the
first
session,
the
assignment
was
to
go
home
and
just
talk
to
your
parents.
When
you
were
a
kid
driving
did
anything
bad
happen.
Did
anybody
get
involved
because
everybody
has
a
story?
O
My
story
is:
there
was
four
kids
that
went
on
ditch
day
and
they
all
perished
in
malibu,
canyon
and
and
satellite
can
only
remember
two
names
their
every
one
has
a
story.
It
may
have
been
in
high
school
or
just
after
high
school.
So
how
can
that
resonate
so
the
traditional
driving
that
we
had
the
older
people
there
had
education
that
was
mandated
schools
phased
out?
I
don't
know
what
the
back
story
is.
O
There's
probably
an
expense
associated
with
it,
they
wanted
a
more
enhanced
curricula
that
was
more
meaningful
than
driver's
ed
and
it
is
problematic
so
we're
we're
part
of
the
solution,
but
the
busd,
the
engineering
side,
certainly
city
council,
all
of
that
and
to
councilman
elman's
point
is
that
the
the
industry
itself
is
not
helpful.
You
tonight
you
go
home
and
you
will
see
a
car
racing,
an
airplane.
O
You
will
see
a
car
racing,
a
motorcycle,
and
what
is
that
telling
your
drivers,
young
drivers,
it's
problematic
in
the
cars
that
we
drive
today
in
a
low
end.
Car
is
a
high
performance
car.
So
it's
just
going
to
be
a
hard
grind.
Moving
forward,
they've
been
relentless,
but
every
chance
we
get
is
especially
with
students.
You
talk
about
driving,
just
talk
about
driving,
so
there's
not
a
bad
outcome.
H
That's
great,
I
thank
you
for
the
clarification
there
and
I
think,
having
this
just
having
started
in
the
past
six
to
eight
months.
It
seems
like
there's
really
great
momentum
behind
that
on
the
enforcement
side,
it
when
you
spoke
to
an
increase
in
violation
for
distracted
driving.
Have
you
seen
that
kind
of
result,
in
repeat
offenders,
if
you
will
and
in
in
terms
of
citations
on
that
front,
like
to
the
point
of
having
these
citations
be
cumulative
in
disincentivizing?
Q
More
so
it's
almost
impossible
to
get
drivers
to
put
their
phones
down.
So
several
repeat
offenders
on
this
topic,
but
it
is
a
huge
distraction
while
driving
they're,
taking
their
attention
and
vision
off
the
roadway
and
and
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
accidents.
Because
of
that.
H
Q
Q
Initially
instituted
there
was
no
point
and
then
over
time
when
things
continue
to
be
a
problem,
the
the
state
and
the
legislator
will
decide.
Okay,
these
these
types
of
violations
will
need
a
point
attached
to
it
to
kind
of
reinforce
the
idea
that
if
you
continue
this
dangerous
driving
behavior,
you
could
lose
your
driving
privilege.
So,
but
I
could
I
could
get
you
that
information.
H
Awesome,
thank
you
and
one
final
question.
This
is
a
little
bit
more
specific
to
the
point
of
traffic
enforcement
efforts.
The
speed
display
trailers.
Can
you
just
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
that
and
the
effectiveness
of
them
have
you
kind
of
seen.
You
know
placing
them
on
a
street
over
time,
the
speed
kind
of
decreasing,
because
you
have
that
data
to
kind
of
review
and
back
up
and
what
is
kind
of
the
process
of
where
you're,
placing
them,
how
long
you're
placing
them?
Q
So,
there's
an
immediate
effect
by
getting
people
to
slow
down
when
they
see
that
it's
visual
and
it's
instant
people
see
it
it
flashes
at
you.
It
tells
you
you're,
speeding
and
people
will
slow
down.
Unfortunately,
when
it's
not
followed
by
enforcement,
people
realize
there's
no
cop
coming
so
then,
after
a
few
weeks,
they
will
ignore
it.
Okay,
so
it
has
to
be
followed
by
enforcement.
Q
The
information
that
we
obtain
from
that
is
invaluable,
so
we
use
that
the
traffic
engineer
uses
that
we
can
tell
how
many
cars
are
driving
down
that
roadway.
How
many
are
speeding?
How
many
are
following
adhering
to
the
posted
speed
limit,
but
it's
great
information.
Q
It
gives
you
dates
and
time,
so
I
could
tell
seven
days
a
week.
You
know
every
hour
of
the
day
I
could
tell
where
my
biggest
problems
are
and
that
helps
us
focus
our
efforts
working
with
public
works.
Public
works
has
invested
in
doing
solar-powered,
permanent
signs
that
can
be
affixed
to
various
poles,
and
you
may
have
seen
that
on
the
northern
and
southern
end
of
the
city.
B
Good,
I
I
think
commissioner
frozen
had
a
comment
and
then
we'll
wind
up
with
the
commissioner
combs
here.
F
Okay,
this
is
just
a
follow-up
on
the
traffic
safety
education
in
the
high
school.
So
I
think
you
had
mentioned
it
was
at
burroughs,
high
school
and
burbank
high
school
currently
are
there
and
there
were
plans
to
expand
it.
Does
that
include
the
other
two
busd
high
schools
or
any
other
local
private
schools.
I
A
Q
School
immediate
interest
from
them
we're
now
we've
opened
discussions
with
them
as
well
and
to
expand
it
to
the
different
grade
levels.
So
it's
very
positive,
as
the
chief
mentioned
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
went
into
this.
The
feedback
has
been
nothing
but
positive,
and
we
want
to
build
on
that.
We
really
want
to
build
on
that
and
use
these
as
an
opportunity
to
get
that
education
out
there.
I
think
we
are
going
to
see
the
results
down
the
road
with
the
drivers
that
have
been
through
these
types
of
programs.
F
F
Maybe
is
there
a
way
to
have
that
distributed
through
busd
to
all
the
usd
families
as
well,
just
to
the
point
of
just
one
more
point
of
engagement
with
the
parents
and
guardians
absolutely
of
the
usc
students,
since
it's
already
made
and
then
the
last
thing
was
again
just
speaking
to
the
disincentives,
you
know
just
incentivizing
folks,
and
I
I'm
wondering
I
do
see
periodically
on
the
bpd
social
media,
that
cars
do
get
impounded
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
can
speak
to
is
that
something
that
happens
after
many
violations
or
is
that
something
that
happens
frequently
does?
F
Is
you
know
this
would
be
anecdotally
now
at
this
point,
but
do
you
see
you
know,
does
that
finally
seem
to
change
behavior
of
kind
of
repeat
offenders
or
is
even
that
not
you
know.
That
seems
like
a
pretty
that
or
getting
your
license
revoked
seem
like
kind
of
the
most
severe
you
know
consequences
that
would
happen
these
types
of
things.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if,
if
that
seems
to
have
an
impact
or
or
not.
Q
The
fine
is
hefty
and
that's
the
point
on
a
reckless
driving
incident.
We
can
there's
a
lot
of
misinformation
that
goes
around
out
there
and,
unfortunately,
not
everybody's
familiar
with
it,
but
we
can
on
the
first
reckless
driving
incident.
If
we
arrest
somebody
for
reckless
driving,
we
can
impound
their
car
for
30
days.
There
doesn't
have
to
be
a
progressive
two
three
four
violations
before
that
happens.
Q
However,
it's
a
little
bit
tricky
because
the
car,
if
it's
registered
to
the
driver,
it
can
be
stored
for
30
days.
Unfortunately,
if
that
card
is
not
registered
to
them
say
as
their
parent,
their
parent
needs
it
to
get
to
work
it.
It's
not
something
that
we
would
typically
hold
for
30
days,
giving
the
parent
the
ability
to
still
work
we're
reasonable.
Q
In
that
aspect,
however,
there
are
times
when
could
be
registered
to
the
parents
and
yet
the
the
juvenile
it's
their
full-time
car,
and
we
and
we
can
prove
that
and
show
that
we
would
hold
the
car
for
30
days.
B
Good
commissioner
coombs
thank.
G
You
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
time
with
us
as
well.
I
know
you've
been
you've
been
at
this
before
we
even
started
asking
questions
a
year
ago
before
the
instance
that
we're
talking
about
remind
me,
was
there
a
parent
that
was
charged
in
the
incident
from
last
august.
G
Yeah,
I
couldn't
I
couldn't
remember
exactly.
I
was
trying
to
racking
my
brain
about
it
as
well.
This
is
a
just
a
suggestion,
thinking
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
really
appreciate
the
focus
on
education.
The
technology
sounds
like
there
are
some
technology
pieces
that
are
kind
of
in
the
pipeline,
but
they're
down
the
way.
I
heard
you
mentioned
that
the
the
the
speed
indicators
are
useful,
followed
up
by
enforcement,
and
it's
you
mentioned
that
public
works
is
looking
at
putting
in
speed
indicators.
G
D
Q
G
Great-
and
this
is
just
this-
is
a
suggestion
thinking
out
outside
the
box
a
little
bit.
I
don't
know
exactly
what
all
the
policies
are
with
the
department
around
ride-alongs,
but
with
with
the
education
piece,
the
personal
contact
that
an
individual
has
the
personal
positive
contact
that
an
individual
has
with
with
somebody
from
burbank
police
department,
helps
both
the
department
and
some
of
the
events
that
we've
been
talking
about.
It
also
helps
the
individual
and,
if
they
push
put
it
on
social
media,
that's
a
bonus
because
it
spreads
beyond
that.
G
I
don't
know
if
there's
an
age
requirement,
but
what,
if
individuals
that
were?
I
don't
know
if
this
can
be
done,
if
they're
under
the
age
of
18,
but
what,
if
individuals,
that
had
some
sort
of
a
traffic
violation,
an
excessive
speed
violation
or
something
if
they
were
invited
to
participate
or
maybe
mandated
to
participate
in
a
ride-along
with
an
officer
for
a
part
of
a
shift?
So
that
way
they
can
see
firsthand
what
it's
like
to
enforce
this?
I
don't
know
if
this
is
something
that's
ever
been
considered
by
the
department.
O
Not
that
I
can
rep
can
recall
certainly
with
the
burbank
police
department,
and
I
can't
recall
it
in
my
former
life
with
lapd
when,
when
we're
referencing
juveniles
we're
in
a
whole
new
dynamic
right,
so
a
ride-along,
you
are
still
riding
along
with
a
police
officer
who
is
on
duty
and
responds
to
calls
right.
O
I
B
Last
question:
yeah.
I
O
And
I
I
think
someone
thought
that
was
a
little
too
too
harsh,
but
yes,
especially
especially
related
to
dui
arrests,
where
there
was
an
injury
is
that
that
was
part
of
the
educational
process
associated
with
whatever
fine
penalty
they
got
yeah
also,
I
would
like
to
say.
I
B
Great,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Lieutenant.
There
was
a
lot
of
interest
this
evening
and
I
want
to
mention
that
there's
a
number
of
people
on
our
commission
who
are
quite
involved
with
this.
It
takes
a
village,
it's
not
just
our
police
department,
it's
not
just
the
commission,
it's
not
just
the
school,
it's
everybody
working
together
and
we
appreciate
the
efforts
that
you've
put
into
that
and
and
what
you've
put
in
tonight.
Thank
you.
Q
Thank
you,
commissioners,
and
thank
you
personally
for
me
for
your
engagement
and
involvement
in
traffic
safety.
I've
seen
it.
I've
worked
with
a
few
of
you
and
please
don't
hesitate
to
contact
me
with
any
ideas
or
information.
Thank
you.
O
Excellent,
hey
commissioners,
can
I
give
you
an
update
before
camp
cranials
walks
up
come
on
up,
so
I
reached
out
to
gina
on
commissioner
coombs
question
as
far
as
the
number
and
because
I
was
thinking
about
it.
Our
number
now
is
six
commissioners,
so
that
formula
is
going
to
change.
So
it's
two,
so
seven,
commissioners,
three
and
then
with
her
resignation.
O
It
would
be
two
so
just
for
a
point
of
information
and
you
got
a
gold
star
for
asking
a
legal
question
by
the
way.
So.
A
B
O
Text
her
and
so
that's
the
answer
so.
G
O
AA
Commissioners,
chairman,
my
name
is
adam
cornilles,
I'm
the
patrol
division,
captain
for
the
burbank
police
department,
as
you
said,
I
was
invited
here
tonight
to
give
a
presentation
about
school
safety
and
the
police
department's
training
and
response
protocols.
This
is
a
broad
topic.
I'm
going
to
try
and
focus
on
what
I
think
are
the
essential
areas
and
then
I'll
wrap
it
up
for
any
questions
you
may
have
for
those
of
you
who
were
present
at
or
saw
the
joint
session
last
night.
I
have
good
news
and
bad
news.
The
bad
news
is.
AA
This
is
probably
going
to
be
a
rehash
of
what
you
saw
yesterday.
The
good
news
is
my
second
time
in
two
nights,
so
I
might
be
a
lot
better.
This
time
I
don't
know
we'll
have
to
see.
AA
Thank
you
so
getting
started.
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
patrol
division
first,
because
this
is
the
essential
component
of
any
of
our
response
protocols.
The
patrol
bureau
is
simply
put.
We
are
the
first
responders.
We
are
a
24
7
operation,
we
never
close
weekends
nights,
holidays
pandemics.
We
are
here.
We
are
out
there
in
the
community
responding
to
calls
and
doing
proactive
work
in
the
field
specific
to
the
schools.
We
do
proactive
patrols
around
the
school
areas
around
the
schools
in
in
the
city.
AA
Our
beat
officers
know
the
schools
that
are
in
their
beats,
there's
an
expectation
that
they're
conducting
proactive
checks
of
their
schools
when
they
have
downtime
during
the
day
and
they're
they're
documenting
that
we
also
do
focus
proactive
patrols,
extra
patrols
or
area
checks
based
on
information.
We've
received,
whether
it's
a
request
from
somebody
in
the
community
about
a
concern,
a
request
from
the
school
about
a
concern,
an
upcoming
event
that
we
expect
to
draw
a
lot
of
people
like
a
graduation
or
a
football
game,
we're
targeting
those
areas
to
have
extra
presence
there.
AA
The
traffic
bureau,
you
just
heard
an
extended
presentation
from
lieutenant
frommer.
He
runs
our
traffic
bureau.
I
won't
belabor
that
point,
but
they
are
also
assigned
in
sectors
similar
to
our
beat
officers
where
they
have
schools
that
are
assigned
in
their
assigned
areas
and
there's
an
expectation
that
they
are
taking
ownership
of
what's
happening
at
those
schools
that
they
have
introduced
themselves.
AA
So
our
patrol
division
has
general
responsibility
city-wide
we
work
with
the
school
district,
but
we
also
have
a
broader
overall
focus
and
responsibility
to
the
city.
Last
year
alone,
we
managed
about
39
000
calls
for
service.
That's
just
calls
for
service
that
does
not
include
proactive,
initiated
contact,
so
we're
busy.
The
department
does
have
a
element
that
is
specifically
focused
on
working
with
the
schools
and
that's
our
school
resource
officers,
they're
assigned
to
the
juvenile
detail
in
our
detective
bureau
they're
the
first
point
of
contact
and
a
liaison
to
the
school
district.
AA
AA
AA
They
also
do
investigative
work
with
criminal
threats.
Typically,
these
days
we're
seeing
these
in
the
form
of
social
media
and
where
things
are
coming
up,
there's
concerning
posts
being
made,
people
in
the
community
are
being
made
aware
of
it.
The
district's
been
made
aware
of
it
and
they're
reporting
that
to
us
the
school
resource
officers
are
often
one
of
the
first
points
of
that
investigation
and
starting
to
dig
into
those
threats
and
vet
them
out
and
try
and
identify
who
our
person
is.
AA
The
school
resource
officers
are
also
part
of
a
threat
assessment
program.
It's
called
the
safety,
which
is
a
student
assessment,
focalized
evaluation
team.
They
began
that
in
partnership
with
the
school
district
and
dmh
in
2019.,
it
was
through
the
director
of
student
services,
the
met
team,
our
juvenile
bureau
and
the
sros.
AA
You
know
in
that
time
they
basically
have
been
doing
reviews
of
reports
regarding
concerning
behavior
provocative
statements,
things
that
may
or
may
not
have
elements
of
a
crime
but
are
are
concerning
and
something
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
as
a
preventative
measure.
In
those
three
years,
they've
done
a
little
over
30
of
these
assessments.
AA
There
have
been
a
few
rare
occasions
where
things
have
been
provocative
enough
and
concerning
enough
to
rise
into
a
criminal
threat.
We've
had
three
of
those
incidents
where
somebody
we
have
had
to
make
an
arrest,
but
these
were
these
were
very
provocative
cases.
These
were
individuals
who
had
kill
lists.
They
had
lists
of
named
intended
victims.
AA
AA
So,
looking
more
into
mental
health
evaluation,
talking
about
things
that
we
can
do
for
for
prevention
of
incidents,
our
met
team
plays
a
role.
We've
discussed
them
before
they're
a
co-response
model
police
officer,
department
of
mental
health
clinician.
They
also
have
an
analyst
assigned.
They
have
specialized
training
experience
beyond
what
our
patrol
officers
have.
AA
The
real
strength
with
the
met
team
is
in
case
management
and
follow-up
services,
so
any
one
of
any
one
of
us
are
trained
qualified
and
authorized
to
to
make
a
mental
health
detention
out
in
the
street
if
it
meets
the
criteria,
but
in
patrol
we're
going
to
manage
that
call
for
service
and
we're
moving
on,
we
may
never
see
that
person
again
where
the
met
team
has
its
strength
is
in
that
follow-up
I
kind
of
refer
to
them
as
our
mental
health
detectives
they're
going
to
see
those
cases
come
across
and
part
of
their
role
is
to
do
follow-up
with
these
individuals
and
make
sure
that
they
are
getting
the
services
they
need,
maintaining,
maintaining
their
pathway
or
their
adjustments
being
native
made.
AA
If
we
need
to
make
adjustments,
they
work
hand
in
hand
with
the
school
district
in
response
to
calls
they
will
come
out.
They
are
there
to
help
for
assessments,
sometimes
just
assistance
interventions
a
lot
of
the
times
it's
as
simple
as
a
sit
down
conversation,
sometimes
just
having
that
that
third
party,
who
hasn't
been
part
of
the
issue,
come
from
the
outside
and
sit
down
and
talk
with
students.
AA
Other
times
it's
about
connecting
the
students
with
services
that
met
may
have
direct
access
to
again,
sometimes
it's
about
connecting
the
family
to
resources,
because
maybe
they're
struggling
with
with
coming
up
with
an
effective
plan
for
how
to
manage
this
and
again
sometimes
things
get
so
provocative
that
it
calls
for
a
detention
for
a
mental
health
evaluation
by
a
medical
facility
where
met
has
another
advantage.
Here
is
in
their
connections
and
their
contacts,
any
one
of
us
working
patrol
on
the
street
corner
at
three
in
the
morning.
AA
If
we
detain
somebody
for
a
mental
health
evaluation,
there's
likely
one
option,
that's
probably
going
to
be
a
county
facility
which
is
qualified
to
manage
it,
but
it
may
not
be
the
best
fit
for
that
person,
especially
when
we're
talking
about
juveniles
so
met
has
a
lot
of
contacts
in
this
field
where
they
can
find
the
right
fit
work
with
the
parents,
work
with
their
insurance
companies
and
find
the
best
fit
for
them.
Instead
of
putting
them
into
a
one,
size
fits
all
where
they
may
get.
AA
AA
First
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
is
the
equipment
that
we
have,
that
we
maintain
in
our
inventory
number
one
those
are
going
to
be
site
plans,
you'll
see
a
map
on
there.
We
have
digital
site
plans
of
every
facility
in
the
school
district
every
school
every
office.
It
is
a.
It
is
a
map,
it
is
the
surrounding
streets.
It's
the
buildings,
numbered
it's.
The
rooms
numbered
it's
the
infrastructure
on
campus
that
we
need
to
know
about
that
is
in
our
computer
network,
anything
connected
to
our
computer
network.
We
can
pull
it
up.
AA
It's
a
couple
clicks
of
the
mouse,
so
our
watch
commander
our
dispatchers,
our
command
post,
the
patrol
cars.
The
officers
can
download
it
to
their
phones.
So
when
they're
away
from
the
car,
maybe
on
the
facility
itself,
they
have
it
available
to
them
so
that
we're
oriented
to
to
what
people
are
talking
about.
AA
AA
AA
We
have
medical
kits.
It
is
a
best
practice
throughout
the
state
that
our
patrol
officers,
every
sworn
officer,
is
trained
and
equipped
for
trauma
care,
not
first
aid
kits
traumatic
injuries,
gunshots,
stab
wounds,
severe
injuries
from
vehicle
accidents.
We
have
the
training
and
the
equipment
to
address
those.
AA
The
officers
have
individual
kits
with
a
medical
equipment
to
treat
an
individual,
a
single
tourniquet
chest
seals
gauze
other
tools.
We
also
have
larger
kits
that
we
have
staged
in
vehicles
in
the
patrol
fleet.
We're
expanding
that
and
we're
always
increasing
the
amount
of
inventory
we
have
out
in
the
field.
AA
AA
So
we
had
two
kits
to
begin
with
one
at
each
of
the
high
schools.
We've
expanded
that
to
cover
middle
schools,
we're
going
to
keep
expanding
that
to
cover
additional
schools
in
the
district.
Now,
with
the
expectation
that
the
teachers
are
going
to
start
going
to
work
on
kids
and
trying
to
treat
gunshot
wounds,
but
then,
when
we
are
there
and
we
have
trained
personnel
there
as
soon
as
it's
safe
to
do
so,
we
can
start
going
to
work
and
start
saving
lives
in
those
those
golden
minutes
that
we're
losing
critical
time.
AA
If
we're
not
doing
something,
we
have
entry
tools,
you'll
see
a
picture
of.
It
looks
like
a
little
backpack
with
some
tools
in
it.
These
are
tools
that
are
gonna.
Get
us
gonna,
get
us
in
through
locked
doors
through
windows
through
chains
and
padlocks.
It's
in
a
backpack
type
kit,
so
the
officers
can
carry
it
with
them
and
go
and
have
their
hands
free.
We
have
those
in
the
vehicles
in
the
patrol
fleet
we're
continuing
to
expand
the
numbers
in
there
too.
AA
Looking
at
emerging
technology,
I'm
going
to
steal
a
little
bit
of
the
chief's
thunder,
but
there
is
a
technology
system
out
there
called
gun
sense,
they're
in
a
very
early
phase
of
development,
but
it's
a
a
weapons,
a
weapons
detection
and
reporting
platform
they're,
I'm
not
a
tech
guy.
They
say
they're
in
the
alpha
test,
phase
I've
heard
of
beta
testing.
I
don't
know
exactly
what
the
difference
is,
but
mostly
they're
doing
a
proof
of
concept.
AA
So
they've
connected
up
through
the
chief
we're
going
to
have
a
training
day
in
the
near
future,
where
we're
going
to
bring
their
equipment
out
and
we're
going
to
put
it
through
the
ringer
and
test
drive
it
and
and
see
how
it
works
or
if
it
doesn't
work
where
they
need
to
make
some
improvements
to
make
it
workable
for
us
and
maybe
for
the
school
district
bottom
line.
Is
we're
always
looking
for
things
we're
always
looking
to
leverage
technology,
we're
always
looking
for
something
that
can
help
us.
AA
Do
our
job
better
and
and
we're
out
there
actively.
Looking
for
that
at
all
times,.
AA
So
speaking
of
doing
our
job
better,
the
next
component
of
that
in
preparing
is
training.
AA
It's
a
valuable
opportunity
for
both
of
us
to
improve,
share
our
experiences
and
our
perspectives,
because
sometimes
we
may
have
different
different
perspectives,
different
views
of
the
same
same
challenge
and
it's
good
for
us
to
understand.
AA
We're
navigating
our
way
through
that
and
we're
continuing
to
to
move
but
we're
working
through
it.
The
first
step
in
this
is
we
do
annual
meetings
with
the
school
district,
the
district
superintendent,
his
command
staff,
the
chief
and
his
command
staff
we
get
together.
We
meet
we
talk
about
the
upcoming
school
year,
challenges
that
we
expect
to
face
events
that
may
be
coming
up
issues
that
they've
had
what
our
responses
are
going
to
be
one
of
the
most
important
parts
of
that
is.
We
exchange
information
directly.
AA
So
now
I've
met
the
principals.
I've
met
the
superintendent,
we
have
each
other's
contact
information
so
when
dr
hill
needs
to
get
a
hold
of
captain
cornell's,
when
there's
a
need,
he
can
reach
me
directly
and
vice
versa,
we're
not
stuck
trying
to
navigate
each
other's
bureaucracies
to
find
each
other.
It
makes
things
move
a
lot
faster
when
we
need
to
make
a
decision,
we
also
do
presentations
to
the
district
staff.
AA
We
have
district-wide
training
that
we've
done
specifically
related
to
active
shooter
events.
We
have
members
of
our
swat
team
and
our
training
cadre
come
out
presentations
district-wide
during
their
meetings
with
their
all
their
administrative
staff
and
principals.
We
also
do
individual
school
sites
through
the
high
schools
individually,
the
middle
schools
individually.
AA
AA
AA
Our
swat
team
also
trains
on
a
regular
basis
on
the
school
campuses
that
builds
on
that
familiarity.
There's
also
an
extra
advantage
in
the
fact
that
we're
a
collateral
duty
team,
so
our
members
of
our
swat
team,
are
coming
from
patrol
coming
from
the
detective
bureau.
These
are
the
folks
who
are
going
to
be
the
first
responders
when
something
happens,
so
I
want
them
to
have
that
extra
level
of
familiarity
with
the
campus.
AA
So
we
go
train
on
their
campuses.
We
have
them
come
train
here.
Prior
to
the
pandemic,
we
had
a
three-day
training
course
and
exercise
at
burbank
high
school
involved
police
agencies,
fire
departments
from
our
mutual
aid
area,
where
we
were
on
campus
for
three
days
working
together
so
now
when
they
need
to
come
here
to
help
us.
They
know.
AA
So
train
on
these
topics
is
comprehensive.
It's
ongoing.
We
never
stop.
You're,
never
going
to
see
me
come
in
front
of
you
and
say
july
20th
22nd,
we
did
it
we're
done.
We've
crossed
the
finish
line.
We've
got
it
it's
a
constant
cycle.
There's
always
room
to
improve,
there's,
always
ways
we
can
sharpen
our
edge.
We
can
always
find
better
ways
of
doing
things,
the
more
repetitions
the
better.
So
this
never
stops
at
the
most
informal
level.
We
leverage
our
roll
call
training
time
before
every
shift.
AA
My
officers,
lieutenants
and
sergeants
have
20
30
minutes
together
in
a
room
talk
about.
What's
going
on
in
the
city,
talk
about
what
they're
going
to
be
doing,
get
their
beat
assignments
and
do
some
training,
and
so
we
leverage
that
for
informal
training
doing
some
tabletop
exercises
talking
about
the
what-ifs
of
when
they're
going
to
respond
somewhere.
AA
So,
to
speak
about
what
we're
doing
leading
up
to
the
next
school
year,
we
have
some
current
and
pending
training.
AA
Recently
we
did
patrol
response
exercises
so
what
we
did
last
week
for
two
days,
I
had
the
swat
team
out
at
burroughs
high
school.
They
arrived
there.
They
set
up
several
active
shooter
scenarios
and
then
put
in
blind
calls
to
dispatch
said
it's
a
swat
team.
AA
AA
The
value
in
this
is
this
lets
me
know
where
we
are
okay,
it's
one
thing
to
show
up
to
a
training
day.
That's
been
pre-announced
where
we've
told
you
what
we're
doing.
We've
told
you:
what
equipment
to
bring
you've
had
a
chance
to
get
your
mind
right
about
how
you're
going
to
do
things
versus
I
just
got
dropped
into
this,
and
now
people
are
observing
me
assessing
me
and
I'm
under
pressure.
I
want
to
see
how
we
do
so.
AA
We
did
that
for
two
days
what
I
saw
I
was
happy
with
in
any
sort
of
tactical
response.
Under
pressure,
there's
always
going
to
be
fine
tuning,
there's
always
going
to
be
things
that
we
could
have
done
better
somewhere
where
we
zigged
and
we
should
have
zagged.
AA
I
can
fine
tune
it,
but
I'm
confident
in
our
mindset,
I'm
confident
in
the
officers
that
if
they
get
called
tonight,
they
know
what
to
do
and
they're
going
to
do
it
so
to
build
on
that
at
the
end
of
this
month,
we're
going
to
be
taking
another
campus
for
a
week
and
we're
going
to
be
doing
one
day,
sessions
of
directed
training
and
active
shooter
response
for
the
entire
department.
Every
sworn
officer
is
going
to
go
through
that.
AA
So
it's
going
to
give
us
another
look
at
another
school
district
campus.
The
ins
and
outs
of
that
and
give
us
a
chance
to
build
on
our
responses
from
last
week
we're
grateful
for
the
opportunity
and
the
partnership
with
the
school
district.
It's
a
huge
opportunity
for
us.
It
serves
them
and
we
look
forward
to
keep
doing
this
on
an
ongoing
basis.
AA
So,
as
I
get
to
the
end
and
prepare
to
take
some
questions,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
elephant
in
the
room
and
that
is
uvalde.
This
is
at
the
forefront
of
everybody's
mind.
I
know
it
drives.
A
lot
of
the
discussion
around
school
safety
drives
a
lot
of
concern,
so
I
felt
the
it's
understandable.
I
feel
a
duty
to
address
it
at
the
chief's
recommendation.
I
checked
the
distance.
AA
AA
AA
I
don't
need
to
know
all
the
facts
to
tell
you
that
there
were
failures
there.
The
bottom
line
is
we
failed.
I
say
we,
I
don't
mean
burbank
pd,
but
I
say
we.
I
mean
law
enforcement
in
general
and
so
1300
miles
away
people
in
the
community.
Here
they
it
doesn't
matter
that
that
was
1300
miles
away.
They
see
people
who
wear
a
uniform
that
looks
like
this
and
they
failed.
AA
So
there's
concerns
there.
I
want
to
address
some
of
that
number
one.
I
want
to
look
at
some
comparing
and
contrast
equipment.
I've
seen
the
photos,
I've
seen
the
videos
from
that
incident.
AA
The
officers
appear
to
be
modernly
equipped,
they
have
contemporary
equipment.
They
had
the
tools
to
get
the
job
done.
Much
like
we
have
here
speaking
about
training
by
all
accounts,
they
had
gone
through
recent
active
shooter
training.
Much
like
what
I
discussed
and
what
we're
doing
here.
They
knew
what
to
do
so.
We're
going
to
see
the
difference
is,
is
in
mindset.
AA
If
you
look
at
the
comparison
of
a
suburban
police
department
in
the
greater
los
angeles
area
to
a
small
rural
agency
in
the
south
in
in
the
south
there's
differences,
I
can't
speak
to
uvalde.
I've
never
been
there,
but
I,
my
chief
and
other
members
of
the
department
have
worked
and
trained
around
the
country,
including
rural
small
agencies.
In
the
south-
and
the
mindset
is
very
different,
the
operational
tempo
is
very
different.
AA
We
look
at
experience,
I
can't
speak
for
sure,
but
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
leverage
a
or
I'm
gonna
put
out
an
estimate
that
you
could
do
a
20-year
career
in
a
six-person
school
district
police
department
in
the
rural
south
rise
to
the
rank
of
chief
and
have
never
managed
a
truly
critical
incident.
AA
So,
if
you
haven't
had,
if
you
haven't
been
put
in
that
spot,
if
you
haven't
had
to
make
life-and-death
decisions
with
limited
information
under
pressure
for
time,
you're
going
to
be
severely
challenged
when
that
gets
dropped
in
your
lap.
And
it's
going
to
take
somebody
who
has
a
very
strong
sense
of
leadership.
AA
Very
strong
drive
to
successfully
resolve
that
if
you've
had
a
history
of
low
energy,
low
expectation,
police
work,
that
may
not
happen.
I
want
to
tell
you
burbank.
Pd
is
not
the
busiest
agency
in
l.a
county,
but
I
know
you
do
follow
our
social
media
feeds
and
you
see
what
we've
been
doing.
The
expectation
here
is
much
different.
AA
We
we
assess
these
immediately.
We
debrief
them.
We
have
very
honest
and
open
assessments
where
we're
looking
at
what
we
did
well,
what
we
could
do
better
and
things
we
need
to
do
to
improve
our
performance.
The
next
time
we
affirm
strong
performance
and
we
correct
deficiencies
and
that's
a
very
that's,
a
very
tight
feedback
loop
from
the
line
officers
up,
we've
developed
an
understanding
of
what
the
priorities
are
and
the
expectations
for
taking
the
initiative
to
resolve
a
critical
incident.
AA
If
something
like
this
happens,
it's
going
to
be
a
bad
day.
There
is
no
good
outcome
to
one
of
these
events,
but
I
want
to
assure
you
that
that
we
are
as
prepared
as
we
possibly
can
be.
We
have
the
equipment,
we
have
the
training
and,
most
importantly,
we
have
the
mindset
to
go
in
there
and
take
aggressive
action
to
stop
that
threat.
AA
Our
folks
know
what
to
do
and
and
they've
shown
that
in
our
recent
recent
events,
so
safety
and
security
for
the
school
district
and
for
us
it's
like
training,
you're,
never
really
done.
AA
AA
AA
What
could
they
do
to
make
things
a
a
harder
target
without
being
imposing
and
offensive?
So
they
have
a
balance
to
strike
there,
but
it's
it
is
a
constant
grind
to
not
be
complacent,
especially
when
nothing's
happening
it's
easy
a
week
or
two
after
a
critical
incident
to
be
very
energized,
very
excited
and
drive
forward
to
prepare
it's
harder.
Six
months
from
now
when
nothing's
happened
to
keep
that
energy.
But
that's
that's
my
job
to
keep
our
folks
energized
at
the
chief's
job,
and
we
understand
that
and
we
recognize
that
moving
forward.
B
I
have
a.
I
do
have
a
question.
We
were
talking
about
the
elephant
in
the
room
in
comparison
in
our
school
system.
We
do
not
have
a
separate
school
security
outside
of
the
police
department.
Is
that
correct.
AA
AA
B
B
AA
Work
so
if
there's
an
emergency,
somebody
should
call
9-1-1
it's
going
to
go
direct
to
us
and
we
are
we're
authorizing
we're
we're
taking
over
we're
going
to
be
running.
That
incident.
We're
not
going
to
wait
for
a
school
district
administrator
to
to
to
authorize
us
to
take
action.
So
when
you
speak
about
the
incident
involved,
that's
one
of
the
problems
I
discussed
last
night
is
command
and
control
command,
control
and
communications
are
always
the
difficult
part
of
critical
incidents
and
something
I've
witnessed
something.
AA
The
chief
has
witnessed
with
some
of
these
smaller
rural
areas
is,
you
have,
I
would
call
it
jurisdictional
friction
where,
for
whatever
reason,
you
have
a
lot
of
competing
agencies
that
have
been
set
up,
that
don't
necessarily
communicate
well
together
and
when
you
show
up
on
scene,
what
what
you
see
is
we
had
a
response,
a
lot
of
officers
from
different
agencies.
I
don't
know
if
they're
able
to
communicate
with
each
other.
I
don't
know
what
kind
of
situational
awareness
they
had
when
they
were
on
the
way
of
what
was
actually
going
on.
AA
AA
The
burbank
police
department's
command
structure
is
very
clear.
Our
communication
with
our
mutual
aid
agencies
is
very
clear.
We
exercise
that
on
a
routine
basis,
we
can
all
jump
to
the
same
radio
channels
and
they
know
when
they
come
here
that
they
need
to
check
in
with
somebody
from
our
agency,
because
this
is
our
incident
and
we're
going
to
give
them
their
tasks
and
their
assignments
they're
not
just
going
to
self-deploy
and
and
get
stuck.
B
When
we
have
our
command
staff
in
burbank,
if,
for
some
reason
there
had
to
be
additional
outside
forces,
we
occasionally
do
this
already
with
the
share
services
with
glendale
or
other
cities
who's
in
charge.
Does
it
remain
in
charge
of
our
burbank
command
staff,
or
is
there
a
higher
level
that
we
have
to
go
to
like
if
sheriff
get
involved.
AA
AA
There
may
be
some
outliers,
especially
when
things
considered
instances
at
the
airport,
where
there
may
be
some
jurisdictional
issues
there.
Where
somebody
else
is
going
to
be
in
charge.
The
federal
government
may
have
some
jurisdictional
authority
there.
That
would
be
the
outlier.
The
other
outlier
might
be
things
on
the
freeway
where
things
may
fall
under
the
highway,
patrol's
command
or
ours,
depending
on
which,
if
it's
a
traffic
incident
or
a
criminal
incident,
but
99
of
the
time
that
is
going
to
be
us.
We're
going
to
have
operational
control
of
that
incident.
O
Can
I
can
I
weigh
in
so
I've
been
involved
in
a
number
of
these
things
and
if
there's
a
federal
component,
let's
say
there's
a
terrorist
act
is
that
we
may
have
a
unified
command
that
will
ultimately
result
in
us
being
a
subordinate
role,
but
there
is
a
declaration
of
a
change
of
command.
It
is
declared,
and
I've
done
that
a
number
of
times
and
where
it
wasn't
the
incident
commander,
but
I
would
ask
okay,
who
am
I
working
for?
O
Who
is
the
incident
commander,
especially
when
chiefs
would
show
up
and
they
go
I'm
here
I
said:
am
I
working
for
you,
I'm
working
for
you,
because
that's
my
direct
point
of
contact,
so
so
in
this
region
and
cap
corneal's
provided
a
kind
of
a
clear
or
chart.
If
we
will
it,
it
is
how
we
operate
in
in
this
region.
When
you
go
outside
of
the
region,
especially
the
flyover
states,
they
just
operate
differently
and
it's
I'm
not
being
minimizing
their
skill
sets
it's
just.
O
B
I
AA
So
the
answer
is
that
depends,
and
and
sometimes
that
first
officer
on
scene
is
going
to
be
the
incident
commander
until
until
they
get
relieved
as
more
resources
show
up,
we
may
have
a
ranking
officer.
A
sergeant
may
show
up
and
tell
them
I'm
taking
in
I'm
taking
command
and
directing
more
resources.
AA
AA
AA
We
had
captains
as
the
as
the
incident
commanders
because
of
just
the
the
span
of
control
of
the
operation
because
we
had
the
entire
department
deployed,
but
for
the
most
part,
what
you're
going
to
see
is
on
a
smaller
incident.
Typically,
a
sergeant
is
going
to
be
an
incident
commander
if
it
grows
a
little
larger,
a
lieutenant,
something
like
a
active
shooter
at
the
school.
With
this
level
of
involvement
most
likely,
it
may
take
some
time
to
develop
that
chain
of
command,
but
most
likely
you're
going
to
land
with
a
captain
being
an
incident
commander.
I
When
the
swat
team
is
called
in,
is
the
swat
commander
basically
in
charge
at
that
moment,
yeah
or
okay,
who
is.
AA
So
you're
going
to
have
the
swat
the
swat
commander
is
going
to
be
a
component
of
that.
But
typically
there
is
a.
There
is
a
tactical
mission
within
that
incident
for
the
swat
team
and
the
swat
commander
will
be
in
charge
of
that
but
beyond.
But
there
there's
a
lot
going
on
beyond
just
that
tactical
mission
you're
going
to
have
issues
with
perimeter,
control
investigators,
other
support
services
that
are
responding.
AA
I
O
Let
me
give
you
a
really
recent
example
from
zero
400
this
morning,
so
we
did
a
war
swat
warrant
service
and
you've
probably
seen
it
on
the
media
feed.
A
phenomenal
outcome
is
that
we
had
a
swat
commander.
We
had
our
cnt
commander,
our
crisis
negotiation
team
commander,
but
we
had
an
incident
commander
that
oversaw
the
the
the
warrant
service.
Captain
cornels
was
the
incident
commander
this
morning
at
zero.
Four
hundred
lieutenant
frohmer
was
the
swat
commander.
Lieutenant
gray
was
the
cnt
commander,
so
all
of
that
was
in
place
now.
O
This
was
a
a
warrant
service,
so
a
deliberate
action
on
our
part
to
our
pre-planned
event,
but
but
that
is
that
how
we
part
of
a
tactical
plan
in
the
what
they
call
the
incident
of
command
system
and
we're
also
associated
with
that-
is
that
it
could
be
technically
a
unified
command,
because
we
had
other
law
enforcement
agencies
involved,
but
they
were
in
a
subordinate
role
because
they
were
going
to
be
the
search
teams
and
the
custodial
teams
related
to
the
folks
that
were
being
taken
into
custody.
O
I
AA
So
that
does
happen.
We
we
exercise
that
pretty
frequently
in
our
mutual
aid
area
to
try
and
mitigate
it.
But
it
is
something
that
we
we
know
about
and
we
try
to
address.
B
Sounds
like
a
reasonable
idea,
commissioner.
Liu.
H
Captain
thank
you
so
much
for
giving
this
presentation
again.
I
did
listen
in
last
night.
You
gave
a
wonderful
rendition
of
it
today
and
it
was
perf
like
I.
There
were
elements
of
last
night's
presentation
in
question
that
I
saw
integrated
to
today's
presentation.
So
very
much
appreciate
it.
I
do
want
to
reiterate.
I
think
that
it
was
part
of
the
conversation
last
night,
where
there
was
a
point
made,
that
a
significant
portion
of
the
bpd
force
themselves
attended
busd
schools,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
just
an
element
that
I
wanted
to.
H
You
know
re
re-voice
from
yesterday's
discussion
in
the
sense
that
there
is
a
personal
you
know,
dedication
to
response.
So
so
thank
you
again
and
it
seems,
like
you've,
had
a
pretty
long
24
to
48
hours.
I
appreciate
you
being
here.
My
question
is
in
regards
to
the
training
on
school
facilities.
H
It's
great
to
hear
that
that
is
an
ongoing
process
and,
and
more
are
planned,
can
can
you
speak
more
to
kind
of
like
the
protocol
for
the
schools
that
are
selected
for
training
and
also
I
I
can't
imagine
you
can
train
at
every
single
school
and
be
usd
so
what
are
some
kind
of
learnings
that
you're
taking
from
individual
schools
that
can
then
be
applied
across
different
campuses
and
if
you
are
kind
of
working
with
other
agencies,
as
you
mentioned,
how
does
that
kind
of
work
into
your
your
trainings
and
your
planning
so.
AA
AA
So
a
lot
of
the
times
on
the
school
selection
we
kind
of
looked
at
at
situations
many
times
in
the
past,
we've
seen
a
lot
of
shootings
at
high
schools,
so
we
were
focused
on
high
schools.
First
now
we
see
elementary
schools.
There
doesn't
seem
to
really
be
a
pattern,
so
a
lot
of
the
times.
AA
It
is
a
simple
matter
of
where
haven't
we
been
before
and
what's
available
because
the
schools
go
on
break,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
the
campus
every
campus
is
available
all
throughout
that
break
time.
They
have
in-service
training,
they
have
other
events
scheduled,
so
we
have
to
navigate
that
and
find
a
location
where
we
can
go
so
a
lot
of
the
times.
That
is
how
how
we
look
at
it.
Where
have
we
not
been?
We
want
to
go
somewhere
new
if
we
can
and
then
what's
available.
H
AA
There
is
a
difference
there
and
each
campus
has
its
own
its
own
nuances.
Some
have
more
indoor
focused
hallways
some
have
more
out
exterior
access,
that's
usually
the
biggest
physical
difference.
What
we
typically
see
too,
is
you
see
high
schools
where
you
have
multi-story
buildings.
We
don't
see
that
a
lot
of
elementary
schools.
AA
Those
aren't
huge
challenges
to
overcome
those
differences,
because
the
the
the
fundamentals
remain
the
same
where
what
we
talk
about
in
training.
What
we
try
and
exercise
where
we
can
is
the
real
difference
there
is
going
to
be
in
the
student
population
and
how
we're
managing
that
student
population,
while
we're
in
the
school,
because
high
school
students
we
can
give
some
direction
to
we
can
we
can
get
them
to
do
what
we
need
to
do
middle
school
students.
AA
Maybe
if
we
need
to
move
medical
middle
school
students
physically,
we
can
elementary
school
students.
Good
luck
when,
when
they're,
scared
and
and
don't
know,
what's
going
on,
it's
going
to
be
a
very
different
circumstance
to
try
and
and
get
them
where
we
need
to
get
them.
And
so
we
work
with
the
the
campus
people
there
to
try
and
get
them
to
understand
that
they've
got
a
major
role
to
play
in
in
helping
us
wrangle.
H
Yeah,
that's
a
very
good
point
and
it's
it's
very
difficult
to
even
hear
the
planning
that
needs
to
go
into
this.
So
I
do
appreciate
the
thought
and
and
the
preparation.
Thank
you.
G
G
Yeah,
that's
that's
a
long
day,
so
we
really
appreciate
you
being
here
and
especially
after
last
night
and
preparation
for
next
week,
there's
a
lot
going
on.
I
this
is
first.
Actually
this
is
a
question
for
miss.
Oh
for
future
meetings
is:
are
there
any
issues
when
we
make
reference
to
other
meetings
that
we're
making
reference
to
the
school
board
meeting
last
night
with
the
city
council,
but
I'm
wondering
if
there
are
any
issues
related
to
making
reference
to
meetings
that
not
necessarily
all
of
us
were
privy
to.
O
She's
been
texting
me
now
because
we
went
a
little
off
off
topic
with
command
and
control
yeah.
Commissioner
liu
brought
it
back,
but
it
was.
It
was
captivating.
I
told
her.
It
was
interesting
and
captivating,
but
we
got
to
stay
on
school
safety,
so
she'll
ping
me
up
she's,
watching
it
and.
G
G
Perfect,
thank
you,
and
I
will
add
with
that.
We
may
want
for
a
future
meeting
to
look
and
give
a
more
pr
presentation
on
command
control.
So
my
understanding
is
that
there's
a
couple
of
different
systems
that
are
used
I'd
be
curious
to
learn
more
about
how
burbank
applies
that
it's
the
nims
versus
the
sem
systems
and
and
which
is
all
sems,
is
also
referred
to
as
the
ics.
O
G
Be
agenda
yes
for
later
so
one
of
the
this
is
this
is
first
off
as
a
comment.
This
has
come
up
in
prior
prior
commission
meetings
as
well,
and
it
came
up
this
evening.
Chief,
you
make
reference
to
this
as
well.
One
of
the
things
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
is
that
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
this
included
is
that
we're
often
responding
to
the
national
narrative.
G
So
I
really
appreciate
the
information
we're
getting,
and
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
extra
work
that
goes
into
having
to
respond
to
what's
going
on
somewhere
else,
because
that
that's
a
that's
a
regular
theme
here.
Unfortunately,
with
the
work
that
we
do.
G
Another
comment:
berbic,
I
know,
has
chosen
to
not
have
a
separate
school
police
department
and
again
from
the
meeting
last
night,
there's
been
prior
discussions
around
school
resource
officers,
whether
they
should
be
on
campus
and
where
they
should
be
located,
whether
they're
visible
that
type
of
thing
because
we're
advisory
to
the
police
department.
It's
really
not
our
place
to
tell
the
school
district
whether
they
should
have
sros
on
campus
or
not,
but
I
just
want
to
lift
up
that.
It's
really
imperative
that
this
be
worked
out.
So
it's
a
non-issue.
G
You
made
reference
to
having
the
phone
numbers
of
the
principals
last
night.
So
that
way
you
can
reach
each
other
in
case.
There's
something
that
happens.
It
would
be
really
nice
to
be
in
a
place
where
the
issue
around
having
an
officer
on
campus
is
is
worked
out
before
any
incidents
come
up,
and
I
just
want
to
just
want
to
advocate
for
that,
just
to
make
sure
that
that
gets
worked
out.
G
So
one
of
the
things
that
you'd
mentioned,
you
talked
about
regular
ongoing
training
and
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
familiar
familiar
with
how
to
respond
to
an
incident.
I
hate
to
ask
this,
but
are
those
protocols
every
time
you
go
through
a
training
exercise?
Are
those
protocols
documented
for
training
purposes,
for
new
staff.
AA
Yes,
we
have
our
our
training.
Curriculums
are
documented,
along
with
who
the
instructors
are
and
who
attended
and
yeah.
Z
G
That's
helpful
for
when
future
staff
come
on,
I'm
going
to
jump
around
in
some
of
my
questions
and
everything
I
actually
got
a
chance
a
number
of
years
ago
in
another
life
to
to
attend
a
a
vitra
training,
the
violence
and
threat
violence
and
threat
risk
assessment.
I
can
remember
that,
for
a
minute,
kevin
cameron,
the
royal
canadian
mounted
police,
I
think,
is
part
of
it
or
something
like
that,
and
I
know
that
a
former
met
officer
from
burbank
had
participated
in
that
training.
G
AA
I
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
vitra
in
particular,
I
do
know
that
we
have
our
school
resource
officers,
some
of
our
detectives
who
go
to
the
different
threat
assessment
courses.
I
can't
speak
to
whether
it's
specifically
vitra
or
not,
but
they
we
do
have
people
who
are
going
to
ongoing
training
for
a
for
threat
assessment.
AA
School,
so
I
think
we're
going
back
to
2019,
which
would
be
right
before
the
pandemic
and.
AA
The
last
time
that
we
hosted
one,
I
had
hopes
to
do
one
over
winter
break,
but
I'm
gonna
have
to
see
where
we
are
with
the
pandemic
and
in
our
protocols
there
for
for
in-person
training,
because
it's
that's
something
where
we're
navigating
different
cities
and
their
requirements,
so
so
2019
would
be
the
last
one
right
before
the
pandemic.
My
I
don't
like
the
word
hope,
but
my
hope.
G
AA
To
do
it
in
in
winter
this
year,.
G
Again
in
another
life,
I
was
involved
in
a
training
exercise
at.
I
think
it
was
pico
rivera,
high
school
or
something
like
that
a
number
of
years
ago
and
the
fbi
was
actually
participating
in
it
as
well.
I'm
not
sure
if,
if,
if,
if
fbi
or
any
other
outside
of
area
c
law
enforcement
entities
participate
in
the
trainings
with
you.
AA
So
we
we
we
have
had.
Typically
in
our
in
our
ongoing
area
c
meetings
and
trainings,
we
will
have
components
from
the
federal
different
federal
agencies.
I
will
say
a
lot
of
the
times
when
we're,
especially
in
a
in
a
tactical
response.
They
typically
don't
participate
in
the
in
the
field
level
response.
They
will
participate
in
some
of
the
command
and
control
exercise
because
they
may
have
some
involvement
there.
AA
But,
generally
speaking,
when
you
have
an
active
incident,
where
we
have
a
bunch
of
local
police
officers,
they
usually
tend
not
to
mix
in
with
with
a
movement.
Okay,.
AA
G
Set
and
it
can
get
complicated,
yeah,
okay,
qui
related
to
this,
and
this
again
this
is
part
of
the
national
narrative
as
well.
How
can
briefly-
and
I'm
also
mindful
of
the
time-
which
is
why
I'm
rushing
through
how,
if
you
can
speak
to
how
do
you
want
civilians
and
bystanders
involved
or
not
involved
in
school
incidents?
This
is
part
of
what
came
up
in
new
valley.
This
comes
up
in
other
locations.
G
AA
AA
AA
AA
G
This
is
this
is
some.
This
is
more
of
a
comment
for
a
future
presentation,
because
we
do
have
something
scheduled
around
officer,
trauma
and
well-being
and
looking
at
kind
of
the
the
wellness
center
for
officers
down
the
road
you
talked
about
having
a
child
and
how
you
would
respond
to
having
that
child.
G
It's
it's
natural
to
have
those
reactions
and
I'm
hoping
that
in
the
in
the
tren,
when
we
talk
about
the
wellness
center,
we
can
talk
about
how
officers
manage
that
both
manage
that
in
the
incident
and
manage
it
after
the
incident.
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
put
that
as
a
placeholder
to
include
that
at
first
I
was
worried.
G
That
was
my
wife
just
watching
too
many
television
shows
that
involve
officers
that
get
upset
about
their
kids
and
stuff,
but
it's
it's
real,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
we
include
that
last
question
for
you
just
related
to
it.
You
brought
it
up
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation
and
you
made
reference
to
suspected
child
abuse
reports
in
the
work
of
the
department
on
suspected
child
abuse
reports
specifically
around
the
pandemic,
because
kids
were
at
home.
G
Again,
you
probably
don't
have
this
information
readily
available,
but
do
you
have
a
sense
of
of
a
dip
or
a
change
in
suspected
child
abuse,
reporting
and
investigations
during
the
pandemic
when
we
had
kids
at
home
versus
when
they're
back
to
school?
Now,
because
that's
just
in
addition
to
that
information
coming
up,
that's
an
added
stressor
on
everybody,
that's
involved
which
is
important
to
respond
to,
but
but
have
you
seen
a
change
in
the
numbers
since
we've
come
back
for
the
pandemic,
so.
AA
This
is
going
to
be
anecdotal
because
I
don't
have
hard
numbers,
but
every
every
suspected
child
abuse
report
that
comes
in
typically
gets
sent
to
us
and
it
comes
through
our
patrol
office
for
assessment
and
referral
to
see
if
we're
already
investigated
or
if
it
needs
to
be
referred
for
a
report.
AA
I
will
say
that
during
the
pandemic
we
saw
a
drop
and
when
students
came
back
to
school
we
saw
an
increase
and
there
there's
two
there's
two
parts
of
that
equation.
AA
Number
one
may
be
that,
while
they
were
at
home,
they
were
being
exposed
to
more
to
more
contact
and
more
potential
for
some
suspected
abuse
and
at
the
same
time,
they
weren't
at
school
for
people
to
see
and
talk
and
vet
things
out
and
make
suspected
child
abuse
reports.
So
there
was
a
dip
and
there's
been
an
increase.
I
don't
believe
it's
a
marked
increase
from
years
prior.
I
think
we're
probably
seeing
a
return
to
about
about
what
would
be
our
our
average.
F
Yes,
I
just
want
to
say
also
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
I'm
also
a
mom.
I
have
two
young
kids
in
busd,
so
this
is
an
issue
that
I
don't
want
to
think
about,
but
I
know
we
have
to
all
think
about
it.
Unfortunately,
and
so
I
mostly
have
two
questions.
The
first
one
is
around
the
safety
assessment
that
you
spoke
about.
F
That
is
done
in
conjunction
with
a
lot
of
other
partners,
and
so
I'm
wondering,
as
we
were
talking
about
you
know
just
gun
safety
generally
and
the
free
gun,
lock
program,
and
things
like
that
is
part
of
the
assessment
finding
out.
If
there
are
firearms
in
the
home
and
offering
information
around
firearm
safety
or
ways
to
get
rid
of
the
firearm,
you
know
safely
and
things
like
that
and
then
also
just
generally,
can
you
speak
a
little
bit
more
about
that
assessment?
And
what
does
it
look
like.
AA
So
with
in
the
with
the
firearm
question,
the
answer
is
yes,
it
depends
where
the
conversation
is
going,
and
sometimes
it
may
be
a
an
assessment
just
based
on
some
some
depression
or
some
feelings
and
the
gun
factor
may
not
factor
into
it,
especially
when
we
rise
to
the
level
of
where
we're
looking
at
a
potential
for
a
mental
health
detention
for
some
evaluation.
AA
AA
In
other
cases,
we
have
had
discussions
with
parents
where
they
have
voluntarily
given
them
over
to
us
for
safe
keeping,
while
the
crisis
gets
managed,
so
that
that
is
a
a
big
part
of
it.
The
met
team
is
also
involved
with
the
gun,
violence,
restraining
order
program
for
individuals
who
may
be
exhibiting
some
concerning
behavior
and
applying
for
those.
I
think
again,
this
is
anecdotal,
but
I
think
they've
applied
for
three
they've
had
two
that
have
been
approved
and
one
that
is
in
process.
AA
So
they
are
at
the
forefront
of
trying
to
address
that
issue
when
we
have
when
we
have
concerns,
and
especially
in
the
mental
health
field
of
of
getting
a
hold
of
those
firearms
before
something
tragic
happens,
and
then,
as
far
as
the
the
process
of
the
safety
program
I'm
going
to
apologize,
I
they
they
don't
work
in
my
shop
and
I'm
not
a
hundred
percent
versed
in
how
the
process
works.
I
know
it
is
a
typically.
F
Thank
you
for
that,
and
the
second
question
is
the
you
had
mentioned
briefly
about
a
new
technology
gun
sense.
If
you
could
just
speak
a
little
bit
more
about
what
that
I.
O
Well,
yeah.
Thank
you,
adam
I'll,
give
you
the
reader's
digest
version.
This
is
someone
I've
known
for
many
years,
he's
a
psychologist
up
in
the
bay
area,
he's
affiliated
with
a
group
from
silicon
valley
that
is
looking
at
technology
and
it's
gun,
threat,
detection
and
it's
and
it's
really
innovative
stuff.
These
are
folks
that
have
been
successful
in
other
a
high-tech,
related
invention.
So
I'm
looking
for
an
outlet.
O
So
if
anybody
sees
an
outlet
well
an
outlet
like
this
a
smaller
you
know
two
two
plug
it's
a
device
that
would
go
in
that
outlet
and
it
spans
for
about
300
feet,
360
degrees
and
it
allegedly
will
detect
weapons
to
include
knives,
handguns
rifles
and
then
it
will
detect
in
minus
0.2
seconds.
I
don't
understand
that
math,
but
then
it
makes
an
alert
to
like
an
ever
bridge
type
notification
system.
However,
you
want
to
structure
it
and
you
would
get
resources
coming
that
way.
O
O
So
we
we
have
the
good
fortune,
because
I've
known
this
guy
for
a
long
time
is
that
we're
going
to
test
it
late
summer.
Early
fall,
they'll,
send
a
crew
down
here
and
we're
going
to
actually
look
to
see
if
it
has
value
for
the
law
enforcement
community,
not
only
law
enforcement,
certainly
government
schools
and
other
venues
that
are
vulnerable.
O
So
allow
me
to
follow
up
in
the
fall
where
they
give
it
a
thumbs
up
or
we're
going
to
do
the
evaluation
or
we
say
it's
not
worth
it,
but
technology
is
expensive.
So
we
have
to
be
mindful
of
that.
So
to
answer
your
question
yeah
and-
and
you
can
go
on
their
website-
but
it's
it's
modest,
but
you
look
at
the
folks
that
are
behind
the
scenes
and
they
have
some
pretty
good
street
creds
g-u-n-s-e-n-s.
E
Thank
you
so
much
catherine
cornell
for
that
wonderful
presentation
and
first
first,
to
comment
just
to
thank
you
for
the
distinction
between
what
the
burbank
pd
is
doing
and
what
the
rest
of
the
country
and
what
they're,
what
the
small
rural
agencies
are
doing
as
well,
making
a
distinction
between
the
two
as
far
as
the
type
of
culture,
the
type
of
mindset,
the
type
of
resources
they
have
access
to,
and
the
type
of
training
versus
what
we're
doing
here
and-
and
I
say
that,
because
you
know
over
christmas
break-
I
was
in
wisconsin
for
christmas
break
and
small
town
new
london
wisconsin,
seven
thousand
people
population,
the
police
chief
was
the
local
mayor
and
was
the
local
plumber.
E
And
what
was
really
interesting
is
the
police
department
was
purely
volunteer,
so
I
can
only.
I
can
only
like
imagine
a
school
shooting
happening
in
that
location.
How
that
response
would
be
so.
I
really
appreciate
that
distinction
and
second,
I
know
that
there's
currently
a
collaboration
between
the
bpd
and
busd,
and
so
I
know
the
fire
department,
I'm
part
of
the
community
emergency
response
team
with
their
certification
program
about
three
months
with
lafd
part
of
battalion
12,
and
they
did
a
wonderful
job
of
training
us
to
prepare
for
earthquake
safety.
E
Active
shooters
and-
and
you
know
different,
you
know
different
disasters
that
can
possibly
happen
in
the
community
and
kind
of
taught
us
that
how
ill-prepared
we
were
to
respond
to
those
emergency
situations.
E
So
does
the
bpd,
since
you
guys,
are
already
involved
with
the
usd
have
some
type
of
certification
program
or
can
develop
a
certification
program
where
the
teachers
can
really
learn
the
tricks
of
the
trade
of
what
they
can
do.
Preventative
measures,
things
to
look
out
for,
etc,
and
would
that
even
help.
AA
So
we
do
what
we
do.
Training
programs
for
for
the
school
district
where
it
gets
interesting,
is
now
we're
talking
about
two
different
organizations,
and
so
they
may
have-
and
they
may
have
some
policy
and
legal
restrictions
on
how
they
do
things
that
I,
as
a
police
officer.
Don't
don't
quite
understand
we're
happy
to
do
training.
I
don't
know
that
we
would
be
in
a
position
to
do
certifications
for
them.
They're
made.
There
are
other
agencies,
one
of
the
agencies
that
came
out
to
assist
us
with
this
three-day
training.
AA
We
did
at
the
high
school
that
they
do
they're
they're,
nationally
recognized
through
department
of
homeland
security,
they're
a
nationally
certified
agency,
and
they
do
school
district
specific
staff
training.
That
would
probably
be
what
I
would
recommend
just
because
we're
conversing
with
their
their
curriculum
and
how
they're
training
things
we
follow
their
model
and
to
have
the
school
district
online
with
that
would
probably
be
be
a
better
fit
because
they've
already
been
vetted
out,
they've
already
established
a
curriculum.
That's
been
certified
they're
nationally
recognized.
B
In
regard
to
school
safety,
the
seems
like
that
there
was
in
a
number
of
the
situations.
There
was
internet
activity
that
preceded
the
issues.
B
AA
So
social
media
is
challenging
because
there
are
probably
billions
of
postings
and
messagings
going
back
and
forth
every
day.
We
do
not
monitor
social
media
because
we
may
have
some
investigative
interest
in
monitoring
certain
things,
but
as
a
as
a
broad
net,
we
don't
specifically
monitor
it.
I
know
that
there
are
agencies
and
organizations
out
there
that
that
do
some
of
them
are
particularly
geared
towards
child
abuse.
Some
of
them
are
particularly
geared
towards
other
things,
and
they
have
a
reporting
reporting
mechanism.
AA
We
recently,
we
recently
received
something
from
the
fbi
on
a
social
media
post
that
we
sent
investigators
out
to
go
to
go
work
on.
So
there
is
a
reporting
network,
a
reporting
stream
that
comes
through
the
the
city
of
burbank
in
the
in
the
global
perspective,
we
are
a
tiny
speck
and
we're
not
going
to
have
the
resources
to
monitor
all
that,
but
we
do
rely
on
a
reporting
stream
that
comes
to
us
a
lot
of
the
times.
AA
And
then
it's
going
to
spiral
out,
and
maybe
a
parent
picks
up
on
the
thread
and
that's
where
it
comes
to
the
school
district.
Sometimes
it
goes
through
a
couple
other
layers
of
other
parents
and
other
people,
because
the
school
district
comes
to
us
and
we
get
started
what
I
would
encourage
anybody
who's
watching.
This
now
is,
if
you
see
something
concerning
in
your
child's
social
media
thread
or
in
a
in
a
thread
that
you
believe
is
a
potential
threat
of
violence
is
don't
just
share
it
in
your
facebook
group.
AA
Please
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
us,
and
let
us
know,
because
we
may
be
aware,
but
we
may
not
be,
and
you
may
be
the
first
person
that
has
reported
something
and
get
that
clock
started
so
that
we
can
avert
a
tragedy
and
that
that's
that
would
be
my.
My
ask
is
that
we
get
direct
reporting
from
people
who
know
things.
AA
AA
So
if
something
sparks
a
criminal
investigation,
absolutely
we
have
records
of
it
and
we
maintain
them
because
it
may
come
into
play
in
court
cases
down
the
road
it
may
come
into
play
into
other
investigations
down
the
road
so
and
it's
going
to
depend
where
that
investigation
goes.
That
defines
our
retention,
our
retention
time
on
it.
But
but
yes,
if
we're
getting
something
reported
to
us,
that's
a
potential
crime
that
we're
investigating.
We
absolutely
have
records
of
it.
D
AA
I
B
Good
good,
I
certainly
appreciate
the
the
information
and
I
know
it's
been
a
long
day
for
you.
It
has
sir,
but
I
I
think
that
we're
gonna
wrap
up
here
and
I
think
the
chief
has
something
to
share.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Captain.
O
Good
night,
so
these
have
been
two
very
long
presentations.
Fromer's
presentation
set
a
record
set
of
record
really:
oh,
it
did
oh
yeah
yeah,
but
very
productive.
So
hopefully
it
was
productive
for
you
and
I'm
going
to
be
very
brief.
I'm
going
to
highlight
what
commissioner
coombs
talked
about
is
july.
9Th
we
had
the
ice
cream
social.
O
To
give
you
a
back
story.
It
was
a
collaboration
with
the
burbank
police
foundation
and
the
burbank
police
department.
We
had
over
350
folks
attend
the
largest
community
event
of
that
that
nature
absent
national
night
out
those
types
of
event,
and
it
was
it
was
just
a
great
outcome,
youth
academy,
graduation
friday
july
27th,
to
remind
folks
again,
national
night
out,
will
be
tuesday
august
2nd
that'll,
be
at
johnny
carson
park
from
5
30
to
8
30..
O
Just
a
reminder:
we
do
have
the
joint
session
with
the
city
council
on
the
police
commission
on
september
27th
miss
takahashi
talked
about
988.
O
I'd
just
like
to
remind
folks
that
you
don't
have
to
do
anything
about
the
agenda
next
week
or
next
month,
because
that
is
the
mandated
training
from
city
council.
The
only
part
that
I
do
believe
it's
elections,
so
I'm
gonna
defer
to
miss
nakamura
as
far
as
how
we're
gonna
look,
but
for
the
most
part
you're
going
to
be
in
a
training
mode
after
you
do
your
elections.
Is
that
probably
how
it's
going
to
go
to
sherry?
O
So
with
that?
Is
there
any
questions
before
we
wrap
it
up?
We
know
what's
happening
in
august.
We
know
what's
happening
in
september.
In
october,
probably
we'll
have
a
pretty
robust
agenda.
G
Four,
I
do
have
one
question,
and
this
is
this
is
for
for
for
chair
chapman,
and
the
commission
is
because
we're
not
gonna
have
enough.
We
don't
have
a.
We
were
meeting
the
next
two
months,
but
we're
not
actually
having
a
meeting
where
we're
going
to
have
really
have
the
opportunity
to
agendize
anything.
We
do
have
something
on
the
annual
calendar
noted
for
an
october
presentation.
G
G
Sure
sure
so
so,
on
the
calendar
we
had
pedestrian
safety
was
was
earmarked
for
october,
and
I
know
that
this
is
something
that
that
commissioner
frozen
has
been
very
interested
in
as
well.
I'm
wondering
if
you
want
to
make
a
motion
to
specify
what
we
want
to
focus
on
for
october.
F
I
would
actually
ask
maybe
the
chief-
or
maybe
someone
else
here,
because
we
I
do
have
the
a
data
request
in,
but
I
haven't
gotten
the
data
back
yet
so
it's
kind
of
been
waiting
on
that
to
sort
of
then
kind
of
have
a
subcommittee
look
at
that
and
sort
of
present
something
back
to
the
commission
and
see
if
there
are
any
recommendations
we
can
make.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
update
or
anything
on
that.
H
H
F
G
Like
to
make
a
motion,
I
do
have
a
couple
of
emotions
to
make,
though
in
lou.
This
is
this
is
from
where
we
started
this
earlier
today,
not
as
early
as
the
department
did
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
established
a
subcommittee
of
two
members
to
learn
about
and
report
back
on,
the
urban
police
department's
contracting
process.
G
Be
a
little
more
specific
sure,
let's
see,
I
I'd
like
to
motion
that
we
established
a
subcommittee
of
two
members
to
engage
the
department
about
the
contracting
process,
so
this
subcommittee
could
report
back
to
the
commission
as
a
whole
on
general
parameters
of
contracting
within
the
department.
G
How
contracts
are
selected,
how
vendors
are
selected,
the
the
the
rfq
or
the
rfi
process,
the
the
selection
process,
the
vetting
process
for
potential
contractors.
G
No,
no,
this
is
not
oir
would
be
a
contractor,
but
this
would
just
be
get
general
information.
This
is
specifically
related
to
the
the
public
comment
period
right.
B
Yeah,
commissioner
ellen
I'm
just
wondering.
B
Commissioner
element,
I
think
I
made
a
mistake.
I
opened
up
something
here,
commissioner
coombs,
would
you
go
ahead
and
complete
your.
G
Sure
so
the
the
motion
is
to
establish
a
subcommittee
of
two
commission
members
to
to
meet
with
representatives
from
the
burbank
police
department
and
identify
the
general
contracting
parameters
that
are
used
to
select
vendors
from
the
request
for
information
process,
request
for
qualifications
process,
verification
of
vendor
qualification,
etc
that
they
can
then
report
back
to
the
commission
at
a
future
meeting.
B
H
I
just
have
a
quick
question
for
forming
the
subcommittee:
is
it
really
information
gathering
or
is
it
gathering
information
considering
it
and
coming
back
with
topics
to
discuss
in
terms
of
recommendations,
because
if
it
is
an
information
gathering,
I'm
just
wondering
if
it's
something
that
we
could
have
like
a
you
know,
presentation
a
brief
presentation.
G
This
is
just
information
gathering
and-
and
this
is
something
that
I
don't
think
we
need
to
occupy
the
department
with
preparing
a
formal
presentation
on
this
is
this
is
work
that
I
think
commissioners
can
can
handle
in
in
in
in
partnership
with
the
department.
AB
I
G
B
I
G
G
B
We
have
a
second
from
commissioner
liu.