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From YouTube: June 1, 2016 Planning Board
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Minutes and Agendas for the Planning Board can be found here: http://www.cariboumaine.org/index.php/government/boards-and-commissions/planning-board/planning-board-minutes-and-agendas/
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You,
mr.
chairman
and
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
Tim
rights
and
I'm.
An
engineer
with
PR
spin
associates
and
rest
I'll
ever
go
back
here
from
the
oil
company
as
well.
Our
both
are
our
application
that
we
submitted
is
in
front
of
you.
Along
with
the
document
we
prepare,
showing
the
site
plan
and
how
the
locket
both
be
used.
I
think
everyone
money
familiar
with
where
it
is
on
route.
1,
there's
an
existing
peg
facility
there.
You
can
see
the
ground
tanks
of
propane.
D
What
the
absolute
supposed
to
do
is
within
a
pump
island
or
diesel
fuel
there's
an
existing
underground
tank.
Now
that
resides
there
so
guys
the
source
port
fuel
they
currently
offer
that
service
after
penny
drive
facility,
so
they're
going
to
make
that
traffic
off
that
drive
better
access
for
their
clients
and
it
gets
that
traffic
off
and
drive.
D
D
Does
as
part
of
typical
installation
and
I
know,
looking
through
some
of
the
of
course
monster
things
online,
it's
kind
of
the
chicken
in
the
egg.
You
know,
as
far
as
we
can't
bring
that
document
to
you,
it's
a
fun
approval
of
the
board,
giving
the
approval
to
the
applicant.
Then
they
can
get
the
installation
started
and
then,
when
it's
complete,
that's
one
of
the
abs
or
boxes
they
will
have
after
the
installation
is
complete.
So
the
deep
increment
yes
DEP
is
involved,
but
not
until
the
very
end
of
the
project
was
convicted
public.
E
If
you
wanted
to
take
page
packet
page
10
is
the
checklist
that
you
would
follow
and
reviewing
the
completeness
and
just
go
right
down
the
line,
and
it
is
I
would
suggest.
If
you
would
like
me
to
read
off
the
bullets
and
I
can
suggest
an
answer
and
if
there's
any
discussion,
we
can
stop
at
each
one
and
please.
F
E
With
the
comp
plan-
and
there
aren't
any
traffic
issues
or
scitex
issues
associated
ohs
are
not
applicable
or
yes,
in
that
it's
in
conformance
or
compliance
with
parking
in
vehicle
circulations
same
pedestrian,
the
circulation,
it's
not
applicable
site
conditions,
both
the
all
the
remaining
all
the
way
down
to
existing
landscaping.
I,
don't
know
that
you
had
a
landscaping
plan.
We.
E
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A
E
A
E
A
A
E
Suggest
you
that
in
this
case,
because
this
has
been
advertised
twice
already,
this
was
advertised
for
the
May
meeting
and
for
this
meeting
and
the
letters
notification
thing
Jason
landowners
were
sale
14
days
in
advance
of
well.
They
once
sent
out
20
days
in
advance
of
the
first
meeting,
but
they
were
sent
out
14
days
in
advance
of
this
meeting.
So
all
of
the
proper
notifications
and
advertisement
has
been
done
and
we
have
not
received
any
calls
or
can
race
anyone.
This
race
concerned
the.
E
Owner
that
was
adjacent
to
this
applicant
who
raised
the
question
about
it
before
the
May
meeting
was
given
the
opportunity
to
review
all
the
documents
and
they
never
called
back
to
say
that
they
had
any
issues
or
concerns
and
they're
not
here
tonight,
and
they
were
notified
twice
of
this
meeting.
So
given
that
and
the
fact
that
it
was
publicly
advertised
for
two
separate
meetings,
I
believe
you'd
be
within
your
rights.
Unless
Steve
you
have
anything
that
you
want
to
add,
would
that
be
with
you
out
of
line?
G
G
Even
a
superior
court
or
any
municipal
appeals,
one
of
Appeals.
So
the
30
days
between
the
concept
review
provision
for
the
plane
would
but
also
review
the
community
to
get
the
word
out
right
at
30
days
then
allows
anyone
to
request
that
an
appeal
okay.
So
when
you
get
in
I,
think
you're,
probably
finding
a
lot
of
this
in
need
and
notice
on
the
agenda
that
you're
going
to
have
something
about
planning
board
legal
issues.
F
G
That
three
ring
binder
that's
available
from
state
planning
office
or
the
replacement
of
the
state
office.
It
actually
gives
some
case
studies
of
municipalities
that
didn't
hold
to
that
30
day
of
Gilbert
here,
where,
for
whatever
reason,
the
applicant
would
go
ahead
and
would
commence
their
project
and
then
to
find
out
that
the
appeal
would
be
the
applicable
Lucy,
the
appeal
and
projects
would
have
to
be
actually
torn
torn
down.
G
So
it
is
a
legal
issue
to
give
them
30
days
and
the
intentions
not
to
hold
up
the
applicant.
But
if,
by
chance
there
was
someone
in
the
community
or
someone
that
didn't
agree
with
the
project
and
some
just
meaning
or
just
reason,
there
is
potential
for
that
appeal
within
that
30
day
care.
So
it's
just
the
same
people
to
planning
the
window
so.
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Him
and
that's
my
question-
is
it?
Does
it
doesn't
read
that
way
or
am
I
understanding
is
that
it
reads
that
the
court
officer
can
issue
an
approval
after
the
bore
is
reviewed
it
and
he
has
up
to
30
days
to
do
that,
so
we
breed
we
had
submitted
it
anticipating
last
month's
meeting
middle
right
in
May,
and
so
certainly
has
been
here
at
the
city
for
30
days
and
obviously
world
war
in
the
sun
is
shining
yeah.
F
D
That's
that's
where
we're
coming
from
this
right.
You
know
I
I,
understand
you
know.
We
certainly
need
to
do
things
right,
but
our
understanding
is
is
that
we
it's
okay.
Tonight
we
can
move
on
to
the
final
approval
with
the
code
officers
having
it
haven't,
had
it
for
30
days
and
then
we
have.
So
that's
what
work
on
the
problem.
E
The
application
itself,
the
site,
design
application
itself
the
calls
for
two
presentations
before
this
body.
The
review
application
took
assistive
at
least
two
presentations
to
the
Planning,
Board
and
possibly
ignition
presentations
until
all
required
information
has
been
provided
and
performs.
Mom
may
be
required
subject
to
the
approval
project.
So
we
didn't
have
you
before
us
in
May,
because
we
didn't
get
the
application
in
time
to
get
the
letters
of
notification
out
to
the
adjacent
property
owners,
which
is
when
we
did
send
them
out.
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E
City
ordinance
way,
it's
written
house
is
three
days
and
part
of
this
problem
or
dilemma.
If
you
will
is
that
we're
in
the
process
of
reviewing
and
revising
that
code,
but
for
now
the
code
is
is
what
it
is.
So
we
could,
in
six
months,
have
a
different
code
that
wouldn't
require
these
same
time
lines
or
we
could
provide
with
for
opportunities
for
waiver
of
those
timelines,
given
the
circumstances,
particularly
as
they
are
exist
with
you
all.
Let.
A
E
E
The
application
has
been
complete
sense
since
the
day
we
submitted
to
the
mayor,
no
additional
information.
We,
the
only
thing
additional
that
we've
received
candidly,
were
a
couple
of
comments
that
I
included
in
the
cover
memo,
one
of
them
being
from
the
chief
fire
chief,
who
was
significant
missing
big
time,
support
of
this
project
and
the
concept
and
the
fact
that
it
was
going
to
assist
the
city
in
a
number
of
ways,
getting
big
truck
traffic
off
Ben
and
drive
moving
it
to
a
location,
that's
away
from
the
downtown
area.
E
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A
I
guess
I'd
like
to
clarify
the
two
options:
okay
option.
One
is
that
we
only
approve
the
conceptual
hearing
and
we
ask
you
to
come
back
in
30
days
or
wait
30
days
and
that's
you
know,
taking
no
risk
whatsoever
on
anybody's
part.
Alcon
2
is
that
we
give
you
the
final
approval.
Ok,
in
which
case
I
guess
I
want
to
clarify
what
the
city's
exposure
or
risk
is.
If
there
is
any,
is
there
any
risk
to
the
city,
or
is
it
just
risk
to
the
developer?
A
That
if
somebody
does
step
forward
and
say,
wait,
a
minute
planning
board
acted
prematurely?
We're
going
to
put
a
stop
to
this,
at
which
point
at
that
point.
My
question
is:
if
there's
any
liability
issues
who
do
they
sit
with?
Do
they
say
with
the
developer
or
do
they
sit
with
the
planning
board?
Because
if
they
sit
with
the
developer,
only
then
I
would
suggest.
Then
it's
the
developer.
A
E
G
If
anything,
what
would
in
the
city
would
incur
the
need
to
bring
in
his
own
board
of
appeals
of
old,
an
appeals
hearing
to
listen
to
the
the
complainant.
Well,
so
again,
so
it
is
an
administrative
and
many
municipalities.
Don't
have
conceptual
review
than
a
final
review.
Then
your
Lee
ever
review
so.
F
A
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G
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A
A
But
if
somebody
does
show
up
but
then
now
let
me
okay,
let's
let's
play
this
out.
If
somebody
does
show
up
and
say
well,
I,
don't
want
that
to
happen,
okay,
but
the
fact
that
they
are
how
two
percent
in
compliance
with
everything
we
would
be
hard-pressed
dis
body
would
be
hard-pressed
to
deny
them
the
permission
to
go
forward.
Freddie.
A
A
And
so
I
can't
say
you
have
no
risk,
but
I
think
that
your
risk
would
be
minimal.
I
mean
I,
mean
I.
Think
we're
interested
in
seeing
this
happen.
Take
some
traffic
off
of
Bennett
drive,
but
we're
bound
by
our
own
time
constraints
and
so
I
think
tonight
all
we
can
use
my
opinion.
I
think
all
we
can
do
is
give
it
a
conceptual
approval,
and
you
know
it's
your
decision
to
proceed
to
or
your
equipment
and
get
everything
going.
A
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C
Not
for
the
project,
because
I
think
the
project
has
all
kinds
of
potential.
I
think
it
great
idea
but
I
just
think
as
a
body
we
need
to
cover
ourselves
as
well.
You
know
in
like
they
said
you
know
it's
not
like
it's
probably
not
going
to
happen,
but
we
need
to
give
those
people
the
opportunity
to
speak
regardless,
whether
it's
at
the
last
minute
or
not.
In
order
to
make
this
work.
I
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A
At
it
probably
want
a
little
time
to
evaluate
and
study
it,
the
fact
that
they're
not
here
tonight
indicates
they're.
They
don't
have
an
issue
or
I
suspect
that
I
can't
say
what
percent
certain
key,
but
and
that's
why
I
I
suspect
that,
even
if
they
come
to
a
meeting
30
days
from
now,
if
they
come,
you
know
we
still
see
lots
of
reason
to
pass
this
to
approve
it.
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E
Applicant,
the
applicant
didn't
submit
engineer
drawings
that
that
the
application
requires,
but
there
wasn't
a
reason
for
them
to
submit
anything.
In
addition
to
what
we've
received
already
taken
aback.
There
was
one
question
that
was
that
was
raised,
I
believe,
about
the
interior
breakup
of
the
interior
of
the
building
not
having
been
displayed
on
the
map
on
the
drawing
the
layout
of
the
interior,
the
base
and
the
office
area.
That
level
of
detail
wasn't
provided
is.
J
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J
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F
G
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A
So
Kip
do
you
have
I
mean
other
than
the
information
that
we've
been
given.
You
don't
have
any
other
information
or
that's.
Basically,
it
okay
and
I.
I
just
need
for
the
record
to
ask
if
there's
anybody
else
here
that
wants
to
speak
to
this
project
and
I,
don't
see
any
so
we're
going
to
close
the
public
hearing
at
604
and
Jim.
You
want
to
run
us
down
through
the
design
review
criteria
or
is
basically
everything
good
to
go.
/
your
evaluation.
Yes,.
E
I
mean
the
the
city
code
was
changed
to
allow
for
for
automobile
dealerships.
That's
actually
in
all
other
zones,
just
a
simple
code
enforcement
officer
approval.
It
would
not
be
something
that
would
even
be
required
to
come
before
this
body,
but
because
of
the
location
of
this
being
in
r3,
it
was
required
to
come
before
this
body.
They
have
the
actual
site
design
application,
though
so
it
was
only
because
of
where
the
zoning
report
of
located
in
the
zone
that's
located
now
so
is.
A
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A
J
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F
E
H
E
I
would
suggest
that
the
rules
are
were
put
in
place
for
a
reason
and
turning
some
point.
They
wanted
to
have
more
time
allotted
for
review
and
more
opportunities
for
the
public
to
speak
to
these
projects,
but
in
the
in
East
two
instances
any
way
out
of
we
haven't
had
anybody
objecting,
and
certainly
it's
a
matter
of
protocol
that
we're
following
as
opposed
to
any
doubt
about
the
value
or
the
soundness
of
the
pro
Hetty
actual
project.
The
projects
are
raising
anybody's
concerned,
it's
just
following
our
own
rules.
A
C
Being
business
friendly
doesn't
mean
that
we
need
to
make
special
rules
for
being
business
friendly.
We
have
the
rules
that
in
place
for
what
we
need
to
do
in
order
to
make
things
work
and
there's
a
process
to
it.
So
I
shouldn't
have
any
impact
on
being
business
friendly
or
not.
I
mean
no
offense
of
mr.
Griffin,
but
had
he
been
here
last
month,
this
would
have
been
in
approval,
not
just
a
concept
review
so
by
him
not
attending
last
month's
meeting.
This
isn't
very
well
push
him
out
in
number
30
days.
I
was.
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J
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C
A
A
Except
I
expect
they're
each
going
to
take
less
than
one
minute:
okay
and
so
they're
going
to
be
real
quick.
So
unless
there's
more
projects
that
come
to
us,
you
know
in
depending
on
what
else
comes
forward.
I
mean
if
other
projects
certainly
to
look
at
them.
But
if
no
other
projects
come
forward,
then
all
will
have
is
old
business
or
you
can
take
it
from
there
right.