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From YouTube: Board of License Commissioners February 8, 2023
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C
A
A
D
D
B
and
c
to
be
issued
to
sylvia
m
core
nor
kenny,
r,
russo
and
jesse
s
mcpherson
for
the
use
of
play.
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F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
A
Go
ahead,
ma'am
thank
you:
jesse
mcpherson,
kenny,
russo
and
and
sylvia
michelle
noor
all
made.
F
F
F
F
I
could
call
the
witnesses
this
man,
please
make
sure
that
they
identify
themselves
their
full
name.
A
F
State
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
ken
russo,
3045
chickweed
place
iamsville
maryland.
F
F
F
I
do
and
who
are
they
please
doug
morataya
and
you
also
have
another
witness
that
has
been.
F
Excused,
because
of
because
nobody
wants
to
be
near
him,
but
excuse
me
mr
mcpherson
could.
F
H
20
years,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
have
no
further
questions
of
this
witness
questions.
B
I'm
sorry,
I
missed
the
part
about
you've
held
licenses
and
other
jurisdictions.
B
H
B
I
F
And
just
like
kenny,
you
have
never
personally
been
involved
in
any
incident
that
has
given
rise.
F
F
F
And
the
gentleman
that
was
awesome,
john
and
john,
and
you
also
heard
the
testimony
of
of
kenny.
F
J
Know
what
the
vertical
licensing
vertical
acceptance
is
in?
Yes,
my
daughter
in
florida.
J
B
The
alcohol
management
documents
that
you
provide
us
are
very
impressive.
I
think.
B
A
A
And
you're
in
florida,
yes,
sir
another
person
gary
cohen,
is
the
executive
vice
president
here
and
kenny
russo.
I
I
Stores
but
who
do
they
report
to
you
or
you
have
a
number
two
man,
it's
me
and
then
gary
kenny
and.
I
I
I
K
B
That
you
know
that
request
and
and
you're
the
resident
licensee.
I
am
for
carroll
county.
B
And
you
own
10
percent
coin
to
the
file.
Yes,.
F
B
How
it
works
so
play
ball.
Play
ball,
maryland
eldersburg
llc
is
12
owned
by
the
individuals
on.
I
B
B
And
I
I
think
our
attorney
mentioned
that
all
the
inspections
and
permits
approvals
have
been.
J
F
J
L
J
J
M
B
Okay,
so
does
someone
want
to
put
on
the
record
about
the
signage
that
you
have
in
your.
B
Store
about
the
vertical
id,
we'll
call
the
the
manager
with
the
board's
permissions,
and
she
knows.
F
The
store
better
than
anybody
else
in
here,
except
perhaps
michelle
norr,
is
the
board
ready
for.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
A
K
F
And
she
knows
if
she
sees
anything
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
violation.
It
just
has.
B
Next,
witness
god,
but
my
question
is
to
mr:
what
is
your
manager's
name,
current
manager.
F
F
F
F
N
The
last
two
and
a
half
years,
and
do
you
have
regular
communications
with
your
upscale
chain.
F
F
F
A
There
are
two
things,
two
major
things
that
this
board
is
not
happy
with.
A
N
N
N
N
N
A
A
half
hour
we
stop,
we
offer
them
food,
we
speak
with
the
guests
just
to
get
them
back
under.
N
Servers
and
bartenders,
we
offer
it
at
the
time
that
they
are
higher.
We
will
set
up
a
course
with.
N
B
A
F
O
F
B
O
O
So
I've
known
bob
basham
for
many
many
years,
30
years
or
so
and
and
I've
known
jesse
now
for.
F
O
B
Okay-
and
I
I
bet
you
would
confirm
that
they're
fit
and
proper
people
to
be
on
a
oh,
absolutely.
O
A
So,
were
you
the
original
owner
of
the
franchise
in
eldersburg
10
11
years
ago,
yeah,
I'm
the.
O
B
By
the
way,
carroll
county,
south
carroll
county,
where
I
live,
was
very
happy
to
see
glory
days
pop.
F
And
douglas,
why
are
you
here
today?
I
was
a
character
witness
for
jesse,
mcpherson
and
kenny.
P
F
Mr
chairman,
I
would
have
no
further
questions
of
the
witness
questions.
I
didn't
quite
hear
how.
B
B
Capacity
were
you
working.
I
was
a
managing
partner
for
the
store
in
waldorf
maryland.
F
F
Of
the
witness
all
right,
I
have
a
question:
how
do
you
spell
your
last
name?
Sorry
k-o-h-n.
A
Any
other
questions
all
right
you're,
mr
chairman,
you
didn't
accept
the
package
of.
D
F
B
Well,
mr
chairman
I'll
start
discussion.
I
think
it's
abundantly
clear
that.
B
B
Important
for
service
to
know
that
I
think,
and
and
I'm
glad
that
you
have
your
servers-
know
that.
J
B
B
B
To
be
on
the
liquor
license
for
the
for
the
transfer,
I
move
that
their
application
be
approved.
A
A
A
G
G
F
G
D
A
Q
I
see
sitting
up
here,
it's
been
a
few
months
since
I've
been
here
as
mr
dixon
introduced.
I
am
here.
Q
Q
Sarah
being
his
legal
name,
I
will
put
that
out
there
right
away.
We
are
here,
unfortunately,.
Q
Taken
a
look
at
the
corporate
structuring
and
now
jamie
has
applied
to
kind
of
fill
that
role.
Q
Q
Now
are
part
have
have
assumed
their
father's
interest
in
the
llc,
and
you
will
also
hear.
Q
Q
Q
The
record
james,
sarah
s
e
r,
r,
a
address
742
central
avenue,
sykesville
maryland
21784.
Q
Q
Describe
that
to
the
board,
we
opened
our
first
restaurant
in
sykesville
back
in
97.
My
brother.
R
And
I
and
we've
expanded
with
other
restaurants
through
the
years,
so
we
still
run
and
operate
our.
R
Original
location
in
eldersburg,
what
is
that
jamie,
sarah
brothers,
italian
deli
and
sports
bar.
Q
Q
Q
What
percentage
of
ownership
interest
do
you
hold
in
that
entity
33
and
a
third
percent?
Okay.
Q
Q
Q
This
business
be
just
overseeing
with
raphael,
you
know
the
day-to-day.
You
know.
R
Q
Q
Q
Q
I
want
to
hear
you
testify
to
it.
Are
there
any
other
proposed
changes
to
the
business
as.
Q
Q
J
First,
I'd
like
to
extend
the
boyd's
condolences
to
the
loss
of
your
father.
Mr
sarah,
how
much
time.
J
Do
you
plan
to
spend
at
the
raphael's
entity
I
mean
it's,
it
varies.
It
depends
on
what
raphael.
J
J
The
only
questions
I
have
so,
mr
sarah
again
condolences
on
passing
your
father.
R
Some
years
day
to
day
that
was
like
the
original
my
brother
was
at.
We
had
another
location
in.
A
Q
Q
Q
S
S
Q
C
C
C
It
was
a
mess,
jack
lauderback
was
a
family
friend
and
I'm
familiar
yeah.
He
bought
it
from
jack.
A
Another
questions
evidence
is,
I
have
I'm
sorry.
I
just
I
wanted
to
to
ask
a
attorney
miller
so.
B
B
Q
File,
thank
you,
okay,
along
those
lines.
The
other
question
I
had
was
the
the
ownership
interests.
B
Q
Q
John
sarah
senior
listed
as
66.66
percent
ownership
interest
and
raphael
is
33.33.
So
that's.
Q
Interest
that
is
reflected
in
your
original
file
for
the
raphael's
license
listed
john
sarah.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Multiple
class
b
licenses
so
and
now
there
is
so
that
allows
for
jamie
to
remain
on
sarah.
Q
A
Render
a
decision,
mr
chairman,
I
I
endorse
all
the
comments
that
miss
miller
has
offered
to
to
us.
B
Step
into
the
shoes
of
his
father,
so
I
would
support
the
the
transfer
and.
B
Get
comments
I
agree
with
commissioner
barnhart.
As
always,
kelly
has
given.
J
J
Approve
the
application
to
replace
the
resident
licensee
john
sarah
senior,
with
john
w
sarah.
A
A
D
D
D
A
What
why
and
where
you
want,
yes,
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
first
place,
romeo.
T
In
yeah
I
did
buy
a
miss
karen
tony's
cafe
and
tony
town,
and
I
would
like
to.
T
Transfer
her
lines
and
liquor
lines
to
my
name
to
be
able
to
operate
the
bar
site.
B
T
Oh
she's
gonna
be
here:
yes,
she's,
going
to
be
hitting
here;
okay!
Yes,
yes,
sorry
for
that's!.
B
But
you
want
to
make
it
a
new
license
to
include
beer
wine
and
liquor.
She
had
the
full
lines.
T
T
B
You
say
she
still
has
a
license.
Yes,
the
dining
room
being
closed.
All
she
been
doing
the
carry
out.
B
B
As
far
as
transferring
a
license,
he's
he's
actually
asking
for
a
new
license,
a.
B
Beer
or
wine
and
liquor
license,
whereas
miss
le
boo
had
a
beer
and
wine
license.
Yeah,
okay,
but.
E
A
Serving
alcohol
and
so
forth,
well
not
serving
alcohol,
but
I
did
talk
some.
B
B
Class,
yes,
tips
or
tam
class.
Yes,
sir,
and
when
did
you
do
that,
I
believe
I
was
last
month.
B
B
Selling
to
someone
who
had
a
vertical
license,
what
I
mean,
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
understand
it.
B
Okay,
that
answers
the
question.
You
know
the
difference
if
the
license
looks
like.
T
B
B
And
you
say
that
miss
love,
bowie
or
la
beau
is
going
to
come
and
yes
she's.
She
was
on
their
way.
T
B
B
And
do
you
for
the
use
of
tony's
cafe
llc,
I
see
is
on
the
application
who
owns
tony's,
cafe
llc.
B
Okay,
I
think
in
your
application
to
say
that
the
applicant
owns
50.
Oh
yes,
oh
I
understand.
B
Is
he
involved
with
the
business
at
all
the
cafe?
Yes,
he
is
yeah,
he
doing
the
financial.
T
Situation
like
to
pay
the
bills
and
he
keeps
the
books
yes,
checkbooks,
just
like
that.
Yeah.
B
Does
the
cafe
have
one
floor
or
two
floors
how
I
would
say
two
floors.
T
L
T
B
V
And
this
is
just
an
isn't
in
existence
anymore.
The
cafe
is
not
in
existence,
it
is
running
and
the.
V
Lease
was
signed
with
mr
coca
with
the
landlord
conowaygo.
The
landlord
wasn't
renewing
my
lease.
V
And
because
of
it
I
had
to,
I
didn't
know
what
to
do
so
romero
and
his
brother-in-law
offered.
V
B
B
And
you've
known
the
applicant
mr
coca
for
a
long
time.
V
Probably
20
a
little
over
20
years,
do
you
feel
he's
a
fit
and
proper.
A
V
For
that,
but
I
doubt
it's
a
three-year
four
years:
it's
four
years,
okay,
I
would
say.
B
Okay,
so
if
I
ordered
a
manhattan,
you
know
how
to
fix
it.
No,
I
would
not.
B
Yes,
so
the
question
was
asked
just
before
you
came
in
how
many
seats
are
at
the
actual
bar.
V
We
used
to
be
open,
you
know
for
entertainment
and
had
djs
and
things
like
that.
Then
the
sales.
V
Down
so
I'm
not
sure
what
that
percentage
was,
but
even
when
you
were
closed
and
doing
carryouts.
L
V
L
V
Doing
great,
very
good,
yeah,
yeah
and
people
being
asking
for,
I
call
they're,
you
know
they're.
V
V
B
B
If
you
were
to,
if
this
application
were
to
be
approved,
would
you
plan
on
hiring
more
people?
Yes,.
B
That,
in
my
mind,
is
is
a
good
path
forward,
and
I
appreciate
that.
A
D
Approved
but
then
the
second
one
yeah
here
it
is
yeah,
at
least
it
almost
always
sends
one.
E
E
Haven't
heard
back
from
the
comptroller
and
permits
is
outstanding,
the
health.
T
For
them
to
come,
and
do
this
job,
like
a
diplomery
like
the
whole
department.
B
But
that
is,
you
know
if
everything's
going
to
be
done.
B
And
other
than
you
miss
libby,
are
there
any
character
witnesses.
B
W
Maryland
21787,
that
is
city
hall,
I'm
here
today
on
behalf
of
the
government
of
tiny.
W
Town
to
support
mr
kroger's
application,
if
it
will
help
you
at
all,
visualize.
W
W
Then,
to
your
right
is
the
dining
room
until
pretty
recently,
both
of
those
doors
had
been.
W
W
But
at
that
time
it
was
when
nobody
could
find
any
workers.
Frankly,
and
we
are
aware
that
the.
W
Transfer
to
who
we
just
knew
as
the
longtime
chef,
but
it
was
always
well,
I
say
always.
W
I've
been
here
since
march,
2021
and
people
have
constantly
been
hoping
and
asking
for
the.
W
Bar
side
to
open
up
so
we
are
enthusiastic
and
hopeful
that
you'll
grab
this
license.
I
think
the.
W
W
You'd,
probably
if
it
were
max
capacity,
be
looking
at
six
to
eight
servers,
the
bar,
I
think,
as.
W
For
lunch,
which
is
primarily
for
cheeseburger
subs
because
their
homemade
bread
is
spectacular.
W
But
it
there
is
a
robust
carryout
business.
I
don't
think
that
it's
going
to.
W
W
And
I
think
the
extensive
menu
lend
itself
to
a
place
where
you
go
with
your
family.
Have
a
beer.
W
Or
a
cocktail,
probably
not
a
manhattan
with
your
meal,
so
it's
very
much
in
keeping
with
the.
W
Am
at
your
disposal
if
you
have
further
questions,
but
we
do
support
this
application.
Thank
you.
A
B
B
I
have
another
question
for
you,
mr
mish,
the
main
street,
tony
town.
That's
in
addition
to
your.
W
Main
street
focuses
on
the
walkable
historic
downtown
of
the
place.
I
think
there
are
28
main.
W
Street
communities
in
maryland-
and
there
are
four
points
that
main
street
focuses
on.
W
A
Do
you
have
any
comments,
sir?
When
karen
had
the
place,
it
was
run?
Well,
I
think
it's
gonna
be
an.
L
Road
and
I
think,
if
you
can
follow
what
she
did,
I
think
it'd
be
a
good
place
to
have
in
2010.
B
But
stay
around
a
little
bit
and
and
help
transition.
Yes,.
X
X
Semi-Regular
at
tony's
and
I
can
attest
to
what
keith
said
the
burgers.
Yes
very
good
and.
B
Presently
has
that
training?
My
feeling
is,
if
this
board
were
to
grant
your
application,
that.
B
B
Think
you'll
take
care
of
that
and
plus
you'll
have
the
help
of
yes,
the
former
owner
and.
B
And
she
obviously
is
quite
qualified
to
help
you
you've
been
there
for.
B
And
the
former
owner,
miss
labu,
has
testified
to
your
character.
She
would
know,
and-
and
I.
B
B
B
J
Staff
that
can
help
guide
you
through
the
alcohol
serving
situation
that
you're
not
familiar.
A
Been
an
asset
to
the
community
and,
as
you
both
testified,
it's
still
as
an
asset.