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From YouTube: CHAOSS DEI Working Group, June 28 2023
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A
A
Mind,
as
you
interact
with
us
and
also
the
purpose
of
this
meeting
here,
is
to
talk
about
Dei
related
things,
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
either
inside
chaos
or
our
metrics
or
badging.
We
also
talk
about
badging
in
this
meeting
as
well,
both
event
badging
and
project
badging.
So
we
have
a
lot
usually,
but
today
we
don't
have
a
ton
on
the
agenda.
So
if
there
are
things
that
you
all
would
like
to
talk
about,
we
are
super
happy
to
do
that
as
well,
because
we
got
plenty
of
time.
A
A
A
A
So
here's
kind
of
what
we're
thinking
just
some
ideas
about
what
we
think
newcomers
would
want
to
know
and
need
to
know.
I
I
see
a
few
new
faces
in
here
new
ish
faces.
So,
as
a
newcomer
to
chaos,
your
input
on
this
would
be
super
super
helpful
of
like
what
would
be
good
to
know
and
things
that
you
don't
know
or
things
you
struggled
with
trying
to
find
in
the
chaos
project.
A
That
would
be
super
helpful,
so
I'm
going
to
drop
this
in
here
as
well
in
the
chat,
if
you
just
want
to
take
a
look
at
it
and
if
you
have
comments,
feel
free
to
drop
them
in
anything
that
you
think
might
be
useful.
We
also
had
talked
about
taking.
These
are
going
to
be
like
five
to
seven
minute
long
videos.
So
it's
really
like
we
used
to
do
a
giant
one
hour.
Chaos
onboarding
call
every
month
and
it
was
just
too
much
information
at
once.
A
It
was
just
because
you
know
chaos
there's
a
lot
going
on
here.
There's
a
lot
going
on
here.
So
we
had
gotten
that
feedback,
and
so
we
thought
maybe
it
would
be
better
in
kind
of
digestible
chunks
of
like
five
to
seven
minutes,
not
a
big
deal.
You
can
just
watch
this
at
your
own
pace,
go
through
them
when
you
have
time,
and
so
then
like
by
at
the
end,
then
you
would
kind
of
have
a
really
good
feel
for
chaos.
A
A
A
Here
would
be
five
to
seven
minutes,
and
this
would
be
five
to
seven
minutes
and
this
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
I
think
we
put
your
name
down
on
some
of
these
for
the
software
part,
but
you
don't
have
to
record
it
Sean.
You
can
just
record
like
write
a
script
out
or
just
read
a
script
that
somebody
else
wrote
and
give
your
input.
B
A
A
A
A
You
know,
pull
from
certain
resources
and
and
some
some
of
that
curriculum
would
be
kind
of
the
same
across,
but
there
are
things
you
know
there
are
challenges
and
concerns
in
Africa
that
are
different
than
maybe
Latin
America,
so
I
think
we
can
start
to
do
that
also.
So
if
anybody
on
this
call
is,
has
experience
in
open
source
and
wants
to
also
contribute
to
the
one
that
we're
just
offering
as
a
part
of
like
overall
chaos,
that
would
also
be
great
is
what
I'm,
trying
to
say
very
long-winded
way.
A
A
You
know
you
can
kind
of
be
one
of
our
testers
that
goes
through
it
and
and
reads
it
and
you
can
give
us
a
lot
of
feedback
on
like
yeah.
This
makes
sense.
No,
this
I
have
no
idea
what
this
means.
You
know
that
would
be
really
really
really
helpful,
I
think
so,
maybe
not
right
away,
but
I
think
as
it's
getting
built
just
to
be
that
that
person,
that
kind
of
helps
us
make
sure
that
it's
understandable
and
accessible,
and
that
you
know
it,
people
really
can
can
learn
from
it.
A
A
So
yeah,
so
that's
that
we're
working
on
in
progress
and
again
feel
free
to
jump
in
this
doc.
Anybody
put
any
comments
you
have
or
suggestions
anywhere
in
here.
It's
an
open
dock,
it's
kind
of
how
we
do
things
at
chaos.
We
just
have
a
doc
and
people
just
kind
of
all
collaborate
in
that
one
place
mostly
for
these
for
documents
like
this
any
other
questions
about
any
of
that.
A
A
This
is
just
kind
of
a
an
update
on
what
we're
doing
at
Fosse,
so
Fosse
is
I.
Think
it's
I
think
this
is
the
Posse.
Is
an
upcoming
conference
in
the
United
States
I
think
it's
basically
just
around
free
and
open
source
software.
It's
a
smallish
conference.
It's
the
first
year,
they're
doing
it
here,
so
we
are
going
to
have
a
chaos
boost
which
we've
never
done
before.
So
that's
exciting.
A
So
we're
gonna
have
a
sign,
a
big
retractable
sign.
We
have
a
table,
we
have
stickers
and
then
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
raffle
at
the
event
where
we
we're
gonna.
Ask
people
some
questions
about
kind
of
what
how
they're
thinking
about
open
source,
metrics
and
health
metrics,
and
things
like
that
and
so
they'll
have
to
fill
that
out
to
join
the
raffle
and
right
now
it
looks
like
it
looks
like
we're.
The
leading
prize
is
a
giant
Lego
globe
that
is
super
cool,
I.
A
I
might
I
want
one
for
my
house,
so
we
just
thought
it
was
kind
of
cool
that
represents
like
the
global
nature
of
chaos
and
and
then
someone
else
had
an
idea
that
we
like
whoever's
in
the
chaos
Booth
should
like
work
to
put
that
Lego
model
together
and
then
that's
the
prize
like
here's,
a
here's,
a
Lego
globe
that
we
at
chaos
put
our
heart
and
soul
into
putting
together
for
you,
but
I,
don't
know.
Maybe
people
would
want
a
brand
new
one.
I,
don't
know
so.
A
Runs
the
Fedora
Community.
We
are
giving
a
talk
on
just
onboarding
and
how
you
can
help
your
community
feel
more
welcome
and
more
up
to
speed
with
things
quicker
and
better
than
just
having
your
contributing.md
file,
which
is
what
a
lot
of
Open
Source
projects
do
and
then
they
just
kind
of
stop
there.
So
we're
just
giving
just
some
some
of
the
ideas
that
we've
tried
in
our
communities
and
what's
worked
and
what
hasn't
so
we're
just
giving
that
talk
in
the
in
a
Dei
track
there
I
don't
know.
D
A
C
C
A
No
okay,
I
think
they're.
Actually
sorry
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
this
for
a
second
I
think,
just
if
anybody
is
gonna
be
there.
There
are
some
other
chaotics
that
are
going
to
be
around
I.
Think
I.
Think
Don
has
a
has
a
talk.
I,
don't
know
what
time
what
day
hers
is
Don
Foster
there
we
go
contributor
growth
strategies
for
osis
projects,
so
there's
Dawn,
I
think
Sophia
might
have
a
talk
somewhere.
A
A
Saeed
also
does
some
work
with
our
open
science
context,
group
working
group,
so
yeah
there's
a
lot
of
oh
there's
enough,
yay
I,
wonder
if
I
should
ask
him
about
this.
I
saw
this
yesterday.
Actually
I
meant
to
ask
him
if
he
recorded
it
or
what
he's
doing
for
that
so
yay
well,
I'm,
so
excited
to
see
him
there.
Stephen
Jacobs
also
is
a
chaotic,
so
we're
pretty
much
everywhere.
We're
pretty
much
just
running
the
whole
show
and
then
there's
ours
and
I.
Think
that
might
be
it
yeah.
A
B
So
project
project
badging
is
going
along,
really
well.
Chaos.
Africa
team
is
finishing
up
the
design
and
implementation
of
their
design
so
that
there's
a
smooth
workflow
through
through
the
entire
process
and
Enoch
and
I
are
working
together
to
get
the
reports
generated
directly
through
the
badging
site.
So
we
have
the
scanning
working.
We
have
the
design
complete
and
now
we're
we're
working
on
getting
things
all
put
together.
A
C
A
A
And
for
those
who
don't
know
the
project,
badging
is
a
little
bit
different
than
our
event,
badging,
which
we're
working
with
the
all-in
project
as
well
on
that
which
is
kind
of
being
run
by
GitHub
right
now.
So
so
there's
been
a
lot
of
collaboration
with
GitHub
and
just
a
lot
of
moving
pieces
to
the
project
badging,
as
we
mentioned
yesterday
in
the
event,
badging
orientation
that
you
know,
projects
are
a
lot
more
complicated
because
there's
a
lot
more
going
on.
A
There's
like
more,
you
know,
communication
channels,
there's
communities
and
they're,
not
you
know
finite,
whereas
an
event
is
like
one
and
done
you
know
they
the
event
happens
and
then
it's
over
and
then
the
next
time
the
event
happens.
They
can
apply
for
a
new
badge.
So
there's
a
lot
a
lot
more
going
on
a
lot
more
complexities
to
projects
it.
D
B
B
C
A
A
Okay,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say,
give
a
quick
shout
out.
We
have
two
definitely
two
new
event:
Badgers.
We
have
three
others
that
may
be
joining
as
Badgers,
so
these
are
the
folks
that
will
help
us
review
the
applications
for
badges
for
events
so
I'm,
basically,
in
a
nutshell,
what
the
event
badging
system
is,
as
our
initiative
is,
is
an
event,
can
fill
out
an
application
and
tell
us
how
they're
attending
to
different
Dei
metrics
that
chaos
has
developed.
A
But
there's
a
there's
a
list,
so
they
just
have
to
tell
us
how
they're
attending
to
them,
and
then
we
have
two
folks,
two
chaos
chaotics
that
look
through
those
applications
and
just
verify
that
what
the
event
organizer
said
is
actually
true
and
that
that
information
is
publicly
available
on
the
website
and
then
can
they
just
go
through
a
checklist,
and
then
they
check
off.
I.
Guess
Sean
is
that
you
are
you
opening
something
I'm.
A
A
Yes,
this
is
this
this
and
then
the
badging
bot
which
Enoch
works
on
it
will
go
through
the
whole
application
and
tally
up
how
many
checks
that
event
got
and
it
will
create
a
badge
and
someone
can
get
a
they
don't
have
bronze
silver
gold,
silver
pen
passing
no
pending.
Those
are
the
four
gold
silver
pending
or
passing
for
events.
Those.
A
A
So
yesterday
we
had
a
quick
orientation
to
bring
on
some
new
some
new
folks
Rhoda,
who
is
in
the
call
today
is
one
of
those
folks.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
and
we
are
I'm
happy
to
do
another
orientation
in
Gemma.
If
you
would
like
to
be
one
of
our
reviewers,
we
would
love
that
because
we
can
always
use
more.
We
always
have
folks
who
are
you,
know,
joining
and
then
kind
of
taking
a
break
and
then
coming
back
and
taking
a
break,
so
it
would
be
fantastic.
A
C
A
B
A
A
Yeah
and
I
should
just
also
mention
you
all-
are
welcome
to
join
any
channel
at
chaos
that
you
see.
That
sounds
interesting
to
you,
so
don't
feel
weird
by
just
joining
a
random
channel
that
you
want
to
join
that
because
it
looked
interesting,
I.
Think
there's
one
also
for
this
group,
which
you
would
be
also
helpful.
If
you
want
to
join,
which
is
just
wgdei,
our
working
group
channels
usually
do
start
with
WG
yeah
awesome,
yep.
D
A
If
there's
anybody
else
who
wants
to
get
that
orientation
even
just
to
learn
more
about
it,
it's
not
a
commitment.
If
you
come
to
the
orientation,
it's
definitely
not
a
commitment,
but
if
you
would
like
to
you
can
feel
free
to
fill
that
form
out.
Also
in
the
badging
Channel
and
I
will
include
you
well
as
we're
trying
to
find
a
date.
A
B
A
A
A
Are
calculated,
how
do
we
know
they
followed
through,
or
do
we
take
their
word
for
it
because
it
looked
like
a
lot
to
take
in
at
first
that's
Rhoda's
question
in
chat.
Those
are
actually
really
really
good
questions,
so
we
typically
don't
follow
up
with
a
an
event
that
has
passed
to
make
sure
that
they
did
what
they
said.
A
But
then
it
turns
out
to
not
be
the
case
at
all
we're
kind
of
relying
on
the
community
to
to
flag
that
and
to
go
back
to
that
event
and
say
you
know
what
you
said.
You
were
doing
this
and
you
didn't
do
this
at
all
and
that's
a
problem.
So
we
we
try
not
to
get
in
the
middle
of
that
and
we
are
definitely
taking
their
word
for
it
in
most
cases
and
in
fact,
some
cases
we're
we're
kind
of
having
to
take
their
word
for
it
that
they're
an
event
organizer
themselves.
A
B
A
It
there
is
a
lot
of
it's
kind
of
a
lot
of
faith,
a
lot
of
faith
involved
and
we
are
trying
to
be
their
partner,
not
be
their
judge,
not
say,
you're
bad,
if
you're
not
doing
something,
but
we
just
want
to
kind
of
be
their
partner
and
help
them
understand
the
way
that
they're
looking
at
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
and
the
way
that
they
they
view
that
and
prioritize
that
in
their
events
and
when
you
say
how
the
metrics
are
calculated.
Can
you
tell
me
more
about
that
that
part
of
your
question.
A
A
Well,
well,
Rhoda,
if
you
you
know
again,
if
you
have
other
questions
too,
you
can
absolutely
ask
in
badging
or
ask
me
after
this
meeting
too.
That's
completely
fine,
completely
valid,
we're
always
around
to
answer
any
questions
anybody
has
so
thank
you.
Does
anybody
have
any
other
topics
to
talk
about
today?
Dan
is
also
interested
in
being
in
my
Badger
okay
I
wish
I
had
that
forearm
handy
anyway.
I
could
find
it.
I
want
to
stop
sharing
for
a
second
and
I'll.
A
A
So
that
way
and
also
I
should
say
Rhoda
when
you
get
your
first
application,
we're
happy
to
kind
of
go
through
that
with
you
too,
like
I,
don't
feel
like
you're.
Just
you
know
out
there
on
your
own.
We
just
kind
of
passed
it
off
to
you
and
it's
like
good
luck
have
fun.
You
know
it's
not
like
that
at
all
we're
happy
to
kind
of
walk
through
it
with
you
and
and
do
it
together.
A
C
D
C
A
And
also,
just
as
an
aside
for
those
who
have
heard
about
the
badging
website
project
that
Kingsley
and
Enoch
are
working
on
in
chaos
Africa
that
directly
ties
into
this,
so
just
even
going
through
that
orientation.
So
you
understand
more
about
the
badging
process
and
the
pull
program
like
that
would
also
be
helpful
if
you
had
an
interest
in
working
on
the
badging
website.
Piece
like
having
that
understanding
of
how
that
process
goes,
would
be
super
helpful
for
you,
I
think.
A
A
Badging
are
definitely
metrics
that
are
not
easily
attainable
from
like
an
API,
so
the
metrics
really
are
mostly
around
self-reflection
and
taking
the
time
to
think
through
how
they're,
how
are
they
attending
to
family
friendliness
and
documenting
that
and
making
it
publicly
available
so
like
they're,
never
going
to
get
like
a
number
like,
oh
you're,
a
family
friendliness
number
on
a
scale
you're
at
a
six
like
we're
not
doing
that
part
at
all.
We
don't
judge
it
in
that
way.
We
don't
assign
any
values
to
anything
like
that.
A
We
just
basically
are
saying
yes,
you're
doing
family
friendliness
or
no
you're.
Not
you
don't
have
anything
around
family
friendliness
at
all,
so
we're
trying
to
kind
of
just
help
them
think
about
things,
and
it
is.
It
is
just
a
yes,
no
kind
of
of
a
thing
like
do
you
have
a
code
of
conduct?
Yes,
you
get
a
check,
is
it
publicly
available?
Yes,
you
get
a
check.
Does
it
have
the
what's
considered
inappropriate,
behavior
and
expectations
or
behavior
in
it?
Yes,
you
get
a
check.
A
So
it's
things
like
that,
where
you're
just
really
verifying
that
all
of
these
things
are
true
or
else
they
don't
have
them
for
whatever
reason-
and
that's
also
fine
yeah,
that's
also.
Okay,
it
goes
into
the
process
because
not
every
every
event
is
going
to
have
a
lot
of
resources.
You
know
so,
like
not
every
event
can
provide
an
extra
room
for
nursing
parents
to
go
in
and
nurse
their
children.
You
know
some
conferences
can
like
a
big
Linux.
You
know
conference
that
has
a
lot
of
money.
A
To
to
rent
that
extra
room,
they're
going
to
be
able
to
provide
that,
but
a
smaller
conference
may
not
just
have
those
resources
to
do
that,
so
they
can
attend
to
family
friendliness
in
other
ways
like
not
having
alcohol
at
their
event
and
making
sure
on
the
website.
They
say:
please
bring
your
children
all
the
talks,
are
you
know
kid-friendly
and
we
have
high
standards
for
presentations
and
slides
are
appropriate.
You
know
things
like
that,
like
you
can
do
other
things
so.