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From YouTube: CHAOSS DEI Working Group Jan 25 2023
Description
Minutes from this meeting can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MzDk84BL7FfHDxbFxJz39M72V2Hfc5Y6oCPhOl6woxo/edit#heading=h.n3rh3l1y6dv7
A
A
A
So
so
everyone
gets
the
day
off,
except
for
those
of
us
who
work
remotely,
but
that's:
okay,
I'm
I'm,
not
a
super
fan
of
snow,
so
yeah
I'm
happy
to
just
have
some
rain
and
whatever
it's
all
good.
Oh
let
me
drop
a
link
to
these
minutes
here
in
the
chat,
because.
C
A
There's
the
agenda:
if
anybody
wants
those
and
if
you
want
to
drop
your
name
in
that'd,
be
great
as
I
mentioned
before,
Sean
hi
Sean
had
a
a
conflict
today
something
came
up
so
I
volunteered
to
facilitate,
and
he
said
he
would
do
it
next
week.
So
I
already
put
him
down
for
next
week
so,
and
he
knows
about
that,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
move
on.
A
So
we
have
been
talking
about
this
onboarding
team
of
folks,
which
is
in
the
early
planning
stages,
we're
kind
of
thinking
to
call
ourselves
the
tour
guides,
and
we
would
just
help
newcomers
find
their
way,
and
here
are
the
chaotics
that
are
interested
in
participating
so
far,
I'm
glad
that
some
of
you
are
on
this
call
because
we
did
I
think
we
did
talk
about
this
in
the
community
meeting
and
if
I
recall
it
was
pretty
well
received
when
when
should
we
start
this
and
like
what?
A
A
C
We
could
start
it
into
the
new
month,
I
mean
so.
It
looks
like
we're
getting
into
the
new
month
with
it
and
before
then
we
like
create
a
bit
of
outrage
to
get
more
persons
to
come
in.
So
we
have
people
to
onboard
of
course,
so
we
do
like
a
little
Outreach
using
Twitter
handles
or
LinkedIn
and
then
yes
started.
A
A
I
think
that
yeah
I,
like
that
idea
and
also
looking
at
the
list
of
folks
on
here
I,
know
Matt
Sean
well,
Matt
Sean
might
be
the
only
ones
that
are
out
for
chaoscon,
but
even
still,
and
then
Mary.
A
You
had
a
question,
it
says
after
the
onboarding
do
we
have
a
mentorship
for
these
folks,
including
myself,
so
nothing
officially,
no
onboarding
is
gonna,
just
be
very
lightweight
like
helping
folks
find
documents
or
find
like
the
teams
of
chaos
and
just
kind
of
helping
them
find
their
way
right
now
we
don't
have
anything
more
than
that,
because
I,
don't
honestly
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
the.
A
E
A
A
Here's
the
doc
we
have
been
working
from,
and
since
we
do
have
several
of
these
folks
on
this
call
what
so
like
what
should
be
our
plan
like?
What
would
you
all
think
we
need
to
like?
Do
we
need
to
get
something
together
in
writing
and
document
it
more
formally
in
the
handbook
or
like
what?
What
how
do
you
think
we
should.
E
Yeah,
like
just
it
can
be
just
a
document.
You
can
like
just
set
expectations,
and
you
know
I
also
linked
to
things
handy
links,
but
they
would
have
so
in
case
and
there's
a
question.
You
know
you
know
that
this
is
my
go-to
dog
to
find
all
those
kind
of
things
and
I
don't
have
to
answer
that
section
for
those
things.
Every
time.
E
We
might
want
to
hold
on
a
little
bits
on
Outreach
until
we
have
like,
let's
see
how
it's
going,
because
we
don't
want
to
also
have
like
an
insults
that
might
well
wrong
with
the
people.
So
that's
just
typically
look
for
and
see
how
it's
going,
maybe
next
upload
weeks
or
months,
and
then
we
can,
you
know,
make
that
announcement.
So
we
just
know
how
it's
going
to
the
people
that
are
currently
on
boarding.
Do
they
need
help?
Is
it
overwhelming?
You
know.
A
Yeah,
that's
an
excellent
point.
We
may
want
to
like
make
sure
the
process
is
smooth
and
Flawless
and
that
we
all
feel
comfortable.
We
know
what
to
do
when
we
get.
C
A
Request-
and
we
kind
of
have
that
process
smoothed
out
a
little.
That's
a
good
point.
A
Do
we
need
any
kind
of
like
orientation
or
like
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
Mary
said
it
in
here?
People
should
already
have
some
sort
of
idea.
What
we
do
here
and
able
to
guide
others
through
it.
So
I
don't
know
that
we
need
like
an
official
kind
of
like.
E
The
the
do
people
on
boarding
would
not
just
be
they
won't
Maybe.
E
What
would
be
the
or
what
is
currently
did,
what
I
call
it
requirements
to
be
in
the
onboarding
team
right
like
if
you
say,
for
example,
you
have
to
one
year
in
chaos,
then
we
know
that
you
know
so.
The
person
has,
like
that's
knowledge
about
chaos
already,
and
it's
just
supporting
like
and
having
that
documentation
that,
like
with
handy
links,
because
even
me
right
here,
there's
some
things.
I
can't
find.
A
A
Get
it
so
we
we
put
in
some
just
like
in
this
working
dock
dropped
in
some
criteria
to
be
a
tour
guide.
A
So
have
a
good
working
knowledge,
be
okay,
getting
paired
with
a
stranger
that
you
don't
know,
make
sure
you
know
the
code
of
conduct
and
that
you're
added
we
add
you
to
this
slack
Channel,
which
I
think
I
added
everybody
who
was
on
that
team
to
that
private
channel.
So
yeah
I
think
you
know
what
I
don't
know
like.
So
what
we
can
do
for
this
piece
right
here,
the
written
Docs.
A
A
Do
this
works
true,
just
because
they're
going
to
be
familiar
with
like
our
conversations
around
it
and
stuff
like
that,
and
they
can
fill
in
any
blanks,
but
I
can
certainly
or
I
could
I
could
open
an
issue
and
drop
it
in
the
channel
in
the
slack
channel
are
like.
A
A
And
then,
if
nobody
speaks
up
I'm
happy
to
do
it,
I
just
want
to
give
others
opportunities
to
jump
in
if
they
want
any
questions
about
any
of
this
tour
guidance.
B
A
Right
what
doc
are
we
talking
about?
We
were
just
talking
about
taking
this
kind
of
working
dock,
that
we
were
just
dropping
notes
in,
and
it's
a
little
bit
disorganized
and
it
has.
A
It
has
our
pictures
in
there
and,
like
all
of
our
extra
names,
that
we
don't
need
to
keep
around
taking
this
Dock
and
breaking
it
into
two
separate
docs
that
would
be
like
front
facing
to
put
in
our
handbook
so
like
one
would
be
for
the
tour
guides
and
one
would
be
for
those
who
are
new,
maybe
on
like
what
this
program
is
and
how
to
access
this
group,
and
things
like
that.
A
Oh,
we
should
also
have
a
way
for
them
to
ask
for
a
a
tour
guide,
because
we
don't.
We
did
not
do
that
part.
So.
E
Would
we
like
we
like
a
document,
a
form?
Oh
no,
that's.
D
True
I
think
if
sorry
I
think,
if
I,
if
we
can
be
able
to
add
it
on
the
slack,
but
so
whenever
they
click
on
new
P
yeah.
A
E
Do
we
can't
create
an
issue
and
someone
can
fix
it?
That's
I
think
that's
not
so
much
of
a
problem
I
think
we
yeah,
we
kind
of
create
an
issue.
I
can't
speak
with
pressures
with
fixing
things
on
the
side,
but
that's
how
we've
been
working
like
with
an
issue.
Anybody
picks
it
up
and
then
there's
a
detail.
I've
been
put
in
enough
context
into
the
issue
that
okay,
this
is
what.
A
So
I,
oh
I,
spend
an
issue
last
week
and
I
just
didn't
see
much
traction
on
that.
So.
E
If
somebody
wanted
I
think
something
you
can
do
is
when
you
open
the
issue,
you
can
drop
it
on
the
new
command
Channel,
because,
like
that's,
what
precious
online
usually
does
like
we
just
we
just
drop
it.
We
once
we
open
like
an
issue
so
that
people
are
able
to
see
to
either
drop
it
on
new
for
my
Channel
or
the
chaos
Africa
Channel
any
of
them
and
then
just
pick
it
up
soon.
Okay,.
C
E
A
A
I
just
wanted
to
bring
this
up,
because
we
have
been
already
getting
a
lot
of
questions
about
outreachy
Google
summer
code
and
all
of
those
so
just
to
let
this
group
know
we
are
not
participating
in
outreachy
this
year
for
a
couple
of
reasons
mainly
well
for
one
I.
Don't
know
that
we
have
the
budget
allocated
for
that,
because
outreachy
is
a
program
where
projects.
A
As
opposed
to
Google's
summer
of
code,
where
Google
pays
our
students
so
I
don't
know
that
we
have
the
budget
allocated
and
then
this
and
then
secondly,
last
year
we
were
inundated
to
put
it
lightly,
inundated
with
new
folks
to
the
community,
which
was
amazing
and
it's.
It
was
partially
well
a
large
part
from
the
outreaching
folks
and
all
the
hard
work
that
they
had
done
to
get
the
word
out
about
these
mentorships
so
kudos
to
them.
They
did
a
fantastic
job.
A
They
almost
did
too
good
of
a
job
because
we
immediately
like
we
got
like
hundreds
of
new
folks
to
chaos,
and
it
was
absolutely
overwhelming
for
for
those
of
us
who
are
trying
to
like
guide
people
and
give
them
answers
and
point
them
in
the
right
direction
and
it
it
just
felt
like
it
wasn't
the
best
experience
for
the
newcomers,
because
we
were
not
able
to
really
handle
that
level
of
incoming
folks.
So
we
decided
to
just
take
a
break
from
outreachy
this
year.
A
Maybe
we'll
do
it
again
next
year,
I
don't
know,
but
for
now
we're
just
going
to
take
a
break
on
that
and
then
I'll
just
stop
there.
Any
questions
about
that.
A
And
then,
regarding
Google
summer
of
code,
I
think
we
are
going
to
participate,
but
the
our
level
of
participation.
We
are
also
going
to
scale
way
back.
A
We've
we've
always
done
a
lot
with
Google
server
of
code
like
we're
talking
like
8
10,
12
students
and
this
year,
we're
scaling
way
way
way
back
just
again
to
kind
of
provide
that
level
of
EX
like
there.
We
want
to
make
sure
we're
providing
them
with
like
an
exemplary
experience
and
and
that
they
are
getting
the
attention
and
the
interaction
and
engagement
that
they
deserve,
and
it
felt
like
a
little
bit
last
year
that
we
were
spreading
ourselves
a
little
thin.
A
So
we
just
want
to
kind
of
re-
like
reset
and
so
we're
gonna.
We
are
gonna,
do
a
few
projects,
but
it's
gonna
be
scaled
way
back.
So.
E
Was
just
coming
back,
Israel
was
talking
about
outreaching
like
internships,
yeah,
that's
what
it
was
talking
about.
I,
don't
know.
If
maybe
Delight
share
from
the
book.
Do
you
have
do
you
have
a
meeting
with
Anita
like
an
interview,
okay,
yeah.
D
E
A
I
see
I
see
yes,
so
in
an
in
a
nutshell,
we're
scaling
way
back
just
to
make
sure
that
we
are
able
to
provide
the
level
of
Engagement
and
attention
to
our
students
that
they
deserve
not
that
they
we
weren't
able
to
do
that
last
year.
It
just
felt
like
we
were
kind
of
stretching
ourselves
kind
of
thin,
so
we
just
want
to
scale
back
and
this
year
we're
not
going
to
participate
in
outreachy
and
our
Google
summer
of
code.
We
are
scaling.
A
Something
that
hasn't
been
discussed
yet
is
the
she
code
Africa.
So.
E
A
I
I
feel
like
of
the
mentorship
programs
that
we
participate
in
honestly,
like
she
code,
Africa
was
so
easy
for
chaos
to
participate
in
because
they
took
care
of
like
all
of
the
the
overhead
and
like
the
pre-work,
which
is
where
the
burden
like
usually
falls
on
the
project,
so
they
do
all
the
vetting.
E
And
I
think
I
think
something
I
wanted
to
mention.
You
know,
as
regards
internships,
I
think
I
was
having
this
conversation
with
Enoch
some
minutes,
I
think
on
how
I
do
and-
and
why
do
we?
You
know
kids
enough-
is
going
to
come
into
your
DM
soon,
because
I
think
he's
getting
so
many
DMs
they're
saying
they
are
from
Elizabeth.
So.
A
Yeah
I
have
been
getting
a
lot
and,
like
that's
that's
kind
of
the
way
it
goes
like
with
mentorship
programs.
It's
not
just
like
the
mentorship
itself,
which
is
you
know
it
takes
a
lot
of
time
from
both
mentors
and
mentees.
Obviously,
for
you
know
for
obvious
reasons,
but
it's
all
this
time
leading
up
to
that
is
like
my
DMs,
are
full
and
will
continue
to
be
full
and
will
probably
get
Fuller
as
soon
as
they
announce
that
we
are
participating.
A
B
A
Be
in
because
we've
done
it,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
six
years
in
a
row
now,
five
years
I
don't
know,
but
so
people
are
anticipating
that
so
they're
trying
to
you
know
like
be
part
of
the
community
kind
of
ahead
of
the
game
and
which
is
yeah
like
that's
fine,
totally
get
that,
but
like
it's
a
lot
on
those
of
us
who
you
know
field
all
of
these
questions
and
field,
these
inquiries,
so
yeah.
E
E
E
I
had
with
Enoch
was
this
right
and
and
I
I
think.
Forgive
me
I'm
going
to
do
a
bit
of
a
comparison,
all
right
so
for
the
internships
like
with
G-Shock
and
outreachy,
and
then,
let's
see
she
called
Africa
internships,
and
you
know
you
also
talked
about
how
Africa
they
can
like
handle
all
that
overhead.
So
now
something
I
have
noticed.
Is
that
a
lot
a
lot
of
the
students
that
we
have
from
g-soc?
E
They
do
not
like
a
lot
of
them.
I,
don't
even
know
them
or
like.
If
you
can,
if
you
ask
me
who
were
the
mentees
for
last
year's,
G-Shock
I
can
only
say
Enoch
all
right,
because
that's
the
only
person,
I
know
and
I
I
think
to
some
extent
and
and
there
are
different
moving
parts
right.
Some
sometimes
it
has
to
be
like
the
main
teeth
have
to
want
to
dedicate
to
becoming
part
of
the
community
where
there's
there's
also
them
trying
to
be
part
of
the
community
and
I.
E
Think
there's
also
some
things
we
can
do
as
an
opposition
as
well.
You
know
trying
to
connect
the
mentees
to
to
to
chaos
the
chaos
Community
right,
I'm,
trying
to
maybe
put
in
a
requirement
that
they
should
attend
the
meetings
because,
for
example,
for
Enoch
you
know
he
was
working
on
the
badging
Bots
and
you
know
we
usually
had
those
updates.
E
You
know
at
everybody's
meeting.
You
know
who
tried
to
make
that
meeting
to
kind
of
like
keep
us
in
the
loop
on
what
she
was
working
on
during
his
his
G-Shock
internship.
Now,
in
the
case
of
the
other
infants,
I,
always
remember
that
you
are
the
one
like
you
know,
giving
that
update
on
some
of
the
updates,
the
ones
that
you
can
get
in
the
weekly
course.
So,
if
we
have,
if
we
kind
of
like
encourage
the
main
teams,
we
select
to
be
part
of
the
community,
because
I
feel
that
we
are
losing.
E
We
are
losing
a
lot
of
like
Dimensions
that
come
to
work
on
this
project
and
also
do
not
take
away
the
fact
that
it
has
to
be
their
own.
You
know
they
have
to
willingly
want
to
participate
to
right,
but
we
can
also
prompt
them
or
encourage
them
to
participate
in
the
community
right
I
feel
about
losing
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
them
and
then
before
pre-pre-internship,
like
you
know,
it's
it's
I,
think
it's
inevitable,
sometimes
by
getting
that
influx
of
people,
because
a
lot
of
people
are
interested.
E
A
lot
of
people
want
to
participate
in
internship.
They
want
to
know
what
they
want
to
be
ahead
like,
like
you
said
like
they
want
to
be
ahead
of,
you
know
and
the
timeline,
and
we
really
cannot
help
that
part.
But
yeah
like
well
I
feel
the.
When
the
internship
starts.
There
are
some
things
that
we
can
put
in
place
to
kind
of
help.
At
least
the
mentions
that
we
eventually
choose
right
to
be
part
of
the
community
and
also
something
I
would
also
love
to
see.
E
Maybe
when
choosing
like
you're
doing
the
choosing
phase,
you
also
because
people
that
are
you
know
some
people
that
also
have
that
Community
sense
in
them
as
well.
I
think
this
is
also
some
requirements
from
The,
Internship
organizers.
You
know
saying:
okay,
you
have
to
also
be
part
of
the
community,
so
you
gotta
be
like
little
things
that
I
noticed
that
I
wanted
to
also
point
out.
A
Yeah
100,
agree
and
I
think
that
that
is
maybe
another
reason
that
we
kind
of
do
want
to
scale
back
is
that
we
would
rather
have
folks
that
do
want
to
be
in
the
community
and
not
necessarily
just
write
the
code
like
that
to
us
to
chaos
like
that's
a
little
more
I
shouldn't
say
better,
but,
like
maybe
more
meaningful,
for
an
experience
from
both
sides.
You
know
it's
definitely
more
meaningful
to
work
with
someone
that
is,
you
know
a
little
more
engaged.
A
Like
Google
changed
their
criteria
for
participation
last
year,
they
opened
it
up
to
non-students,
so
we
did
have
a
few
that
were
not
students
that
also
had
a
full-time
job
and
that
obviously
affected
their
level
of
Engagement
because
of
their
limited
time.
So
you
know
I'm
personally,
I'm,
not
a
fan
of
that
change,
but
I
know
it's
to
try
to
make
it
a
little
little
more
inclusive,
because
not
everybody
can
just
afford.
A
Not
work,
you
know,
and
just
rely
on
this
Google
money
eventually
coming
in
so
I
I,
get
why
it
just
maybe
did
not
have
the
best
effect
for
our
situation.
So.
C
A
Like
to
your
point,
Ruth
like
requiring
a
little
more
Community
commitment
and
I
think
Sean
also
mentioned
requiring
more
of
like
that.
You
have
require
what
how
did
he
say
it,
something
like
you.
You
confirm
that
you
have
time
to
do
this
essentially
and
that
you're
not
gonna,
like
you
know,
yeah.
E
Thinking
about
this
I
think
this
is
a
topic
we
can
bring
up
in
di
audits,
meet
sins
because
I
feel
that
that
there
are
lots
more
that's,
since
this
is
being
recorded
like
they
a
lot
more.
We
can
analyze
like
on
that
meeting
and
for
people
that
do
not
know
like
what
they
do
so
there's
a
DI
audit
team.
That
kind
of
like
audits,
the
work
that
chaos,
you
know
is
doing.
E
It's
it's
imponded
by
the
false
foundation
in
doing
the
work
for
over
two
years,
so
kind
of
like
on
teaching
or
di
at
14
yeah.
So
I
think
this
is
a
conversation
that
we
can.
You
know
talk
about
in
the
DIY
audience
team,
because
if
you
look
at
it,
there
are
a
lot
of.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
that
you
know
would
cause
this
right
like
a
lot
of
them.
E
A
Yeah
I
think
yeah.
We
kind
of
need
to
just
like,
like
reset
and
and
figure
out
like,
like
you
just
said
the
path
forward
from
here,
because
it
was
a
little
bit
much
last
year.
So
yeah.
C
E
A
Yeah,
this
was
kind
of
my
thing
here,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
ideas
and
some
that
are
in
progress.
That
kind
of
we
just
forgot
about,
or
just
didn't
get
to
so
I'm
just.
C
E
E
A
I
usually
try
to
make
those
meetings.
Is
that
your
question.
E
Do
we
have
like
I
know
the
metric
models
working
group
have
been
like
creating
some
models?
Do
we
have
any
for?
Is
there
any
for
Di?
Currently,
sorry.
A
Yeah
I
think
the
only
one
that's
specific
to
Dei
is
they
released
the
Dei
event
badging
metric
model,
which.
C
A
I
think
that's
the
only
one
there's
actually,
let's
look,
there's
a
few
ideas
that
were
like
Community
fatigue,
Community
safety.
A
Some
in
progress
for
sure
some
of
these
say
ready,
they're,
not
ready.
Community
safety
is
as
an
example
and
that's
something.
Maybe
we
can
help
out
with
actually
there's
a
few
that
are
like
this
looked
different
yeah.
A
This
was
on
my
Edge
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
metrics
models.
Meeting
actually
is
like
this
was
an
old
template.
B
A
few
June
from
chaos,
Asia
Pacific,
Young,
sometimes
shoya,
and
then
sometimes
we.
A
Have
other
folks
drop
in
that
are
maybe
from
ospo's
or
from
other
different
various
roles,
because
they're
really
to
to
date,
there
really
hasn't
been
another
place
for
them
to
kind
of
interact
and
metrics
models
is
of
interest
to
them.
So
yeah,
it's
it's
a
weird
time.
It's
like
7
P.M
for
me.
So
it's
really
not
good.
A
I
think
we
did
that
because
all
of
the
K,
the
chaos
Asia
Pacific
meetings
like
they
could
never
attend
anything
because
of
the
because
we're
all
kind
of
more
geared
towards
like
the
U.S
time
zones,
which
kind
of
sucks
so
this
week,
kind
of
shifted
for
them.
So
for
them
it's
actually
the
morning
of
the
day
after
because
Shanghai
is
12
hours,
I
think
different
for.
A
A
E
Goals,
yeah
goals-
that's
right,
I
think
I,
thought
of
something
right
now,
so
the
subway
we
we
run
the
survey
from
the
DI,
the
communities
of
I
think
implementing.
You
know
that
feedback
from
the
survey
can
be
another
one.
A
Those
who
don't
know
or
have
forgotten
back
in
October,
we
ran
a
survey
from
the
in,
in
collaboration
with
our
Dei
audit
team.
That
Ruth
was
talking
about
earlier,
we're
still
in
the
process
of
going
through
those
results,
but
we
are
going
to
actually
blog
and
release
that
survey
questionnaire
to
whoever
else
wants
to
run
it
in
their
own
open
source
communities.
So
there's
that,
but
we're
assuming
that
from
those
results,
we
will
get
some
recommendations
or
come
up
with
some
recommendations
with
the
Dei
audit
team
and
you're
right
Ruth.
A
A
A
Big
community
in
Australia
there's
a
huge
one.
E
A
E
And
then
I
think
I
think
something
I
also
wanted
to
bring
up
is
so
for
Asia
Pacific,
because
we
we
get
a
lot
of
Indians
coming
too
the
projects
right.
So
how
do
I
see
this
for
Asia
Pacific?
E
A
You
know
that's
an
excellent
excellent
point
and,
to
be
fair,
I
know,
I
know
Matt
and
shoya
have
talked
in
the
past
about
making
Asia
Pacific,
less
china-centric
and
more
open,
because
also
Japan,
you
know,
like
I
mean
there
are
obviously
many
other
countries
in
that
region.
So
I
honestly,
don't
know
what
that,
where
that
landed
to
be
perfectly
honest,
I,
don't
really
know
so.
Maybe
we
because.
E
I
I
see
like,
for
example,
somebody
put
a
blog
post
about
my
my
talk
at
Mozilla,
which
is
a
lot
of
dedication
right,
which
I'm
supposed
to
that
reminds
him.
So
also
look
at
and
give
feedback
on
the
blog
post
and
that
person
is
Indian
right.
So
you
know
we
we
get
a
lot
of
like
Indian
attracted
to
the
project
and
sometimes
it's
it
would
be
great
to
kind
of
Point
them
to
you
know.
E
But
then
I
know
the
regular
the
decision
to
have
the
meetings
in
Chinese
just
because,
like
the
regular
people
like
people
that
are
attending
the
meetings,
are
you
know
based
in
China,
and
that's
that
that's
that
works
for
them.
So
we
might
want
to
think
about
how
to
do
that.
Are
we
going
to
break
in
and
break
Asia
possibilities
like
two
okay
or
it
depends?
We
can
look
for
something,
but
but
another
thing
is
we
we
also
need
to
get
someone
play.
E
A
Totally
100
agree
with
everything
that
you
just
said
so,
plus
one
I
do
all
of
that,
because
I
think
yeah.
That
is
maybe
a
gap
that
we
have
and-
and
we
do
have
a
lot
of
folks
that
come
in
from
these
regions,
so
yeah
excellent.
E
A
And
I
think
like
like
South
America
America.
A
I
think
too,
the
the
success
of
chaos
Africa
has
been
due
to
you
Ruth
and
your
dedication
and
your
enthusiasm
and
your
awesome
welcomingness
to
those
folks
which
then
you
know
filters
down,
and
so
now,
there's
like
a
whole
larger
group
of
of
ruths
that
help
help.
You
know
bring
newcomers
on
and
tell
them
where,
how
to
find
things,
they're,
just
very
open
and
welcoming
and
you've
you've
kind
of
cultivated
that
experience
for
others
too
and
so
like.
A
If
we
had
folks
in
those
other
regions,
that
could
also
do
that,
then
I
think
that
would
would
be
the
key
really
yes,.
E
They're
very
true
because,
like
you
know,
if
we
have
somebody
dedicated
that
wants
to
take
on
that,
see
that,
but
we.
A
Yeah,
do
we
do
you
think
we
need
like
a
chaos
Europe,
or
do
you
think
that
they're,
okay
and
I
know.
E
It's
kind
of
tricky
because,
like
girls
stay
like
with
boots
like
Europeans,
and
you
know,
North
Americans
like
involved
so
and
and
then
not
like
the
time
zone.
The
time
zone
is
different
too,
but.
E
It's
It's
tricky
because
I
I
think
the
Europeans
we
have
the
let
me
know
use
this
one
they're,
not
so
active.
Let
me
use
that
word
but
say
like.
E
A
Yeah
I'm,
just
thinking
too,
like
open
source
in
general
in
Europe,
is
not
quite
as
like.
I
think
people
in
Europe
have
more
access.
I
will
say
that
to
open
source
to
you
know
what
I
mean
so
I
don't
know
that
it
I,
don't
know
that
we
need
that
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know.
A
And
I'm,
looking
at
the
time
now
we're
almost
out
of
time,
we
do
have
some
metrics
here
on
our
tab
that
are
we're
in
progress
that
we
maybe
didn't
finish
so,
maybe
for
next
time
we
can
kind
of
look
at
this
spreadsheet
again
and
just
see
if
there's
any
of
these,
like
ideas
or
ones
that
were
in
progress.
E
E
Is
the
society
okay
school
though
yeah
the
one
School
keeps
rolling
yeah
the
final
value.
All
of
them
are
just
considering.
A
Really
had
a
chance
to
think
about
any
of
those
as
a
group
they're
just
kind
of
dropped
in
there
as
ideas
that
were
the
value
and
other
our
ideas,
so
because
these
are
really
hard
to
measure
like
what
how
I
mean.
So
these
these
will
take
a
little
more
thought
and
that's
I
think.
One
reason
why
at
least
from
the
conversations
I
was
in
in
value
when
you
get
to
these
kinds
of
things.
A
It's
it's
really
hard
to
like
put
on
paper
how
you
would
measure
this
so
yeah,
but
if
anybody
has
thoughts
on
any
of
this,
I'll
drop
a
link
to
them.
Well,
it's
in
our
minutes,
but
here
it
is
in
chat
too.
If
anybody
wants
to
poke
around
awesome,
if
not
that's
also
fine,
it's.