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Description
Chesterfield County Planning Commission Work Session - February 15, 2022
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E
So
this
side
area
map
here
shows
you
otterdale
road
kind
of
to
the
left
of
one
of
the
developed
remaining
developed
areas
to
be
developed
for
winwood
and
the
connection
of
gossamer
road
coming
internally
would
connect
at
otterdale
road
or
not,
as
his
request
is.
However,
this
will
be
another
deferral
request
from
mr
cloak,
as
he
and
his
land
use
attorney
jack.
Wilson
continue
to
try
and
work
out
solutions
for
the
neighborhood,
so
he's
asking
to
defer
until
may
17th.
F
F
F
Next
is
21sn0573
in
clover
hill
magisterial
district
middleburg
communities,
request
rezoning
from
general
business,
c5
and
agricultural,
a
to
community
business
c3
and
light
industrial
i1
plus
conditional
use
to
permit
single-family
detached
homes,
town
homes
and
a
condition
to
use
plan
development
for
exceptions
to
ordinance
requirements.
This
property
is
located
on
180.15
acres
and
it
fronts
along
the
north
line
of
genital
road
and
also
along
the
south
line
of
poai
parkway
I'll
note
that
this
afternoon
you
received
an
addendum
for
this
case.
F
This
addendum
adds
language
to
the
proffers
requiring
exterior
facades
of
the
clubhouse
to
be
a
minimum
of
70
masonry,
brickstone
or
brick
veneer.
All
other
conditions
of
this
case
remain.
The
same
staff
recommends
approval,
and
this
is
on
your
consent
agenda.
This
evening.
Next
21
sn0655
in
metoica,
magisterial
district
nexamp
inc
requests
conditioning
used
to
permit
a
large-scale
solar
facility,
an
amendment
of
a
zoning
district
map
in
an
agricultural
a
district.
F
F
Next
is
21
sno
659
in
matoaka
district,
marco
eagle
construction.
This
project
is
commonly
known
as
the
park
at
cold
creek
requests,
rezoning
from
a
to
residential
r-12,
with
conditional
use
to
permit
recreational
neighborhood
facility,
plus
a
condition
to
use
plan
development
for
exceptions
to
ordinance
requirements
and
development
standards.
F
F
This
addendum
adds
a
condition
that
requires
that,
prior
to
the
issuance
of
the
first
certificate
of
occupancy
on
the
property,
otterdale
road
drainage,
improvement,
project
for
horse
pen,
creek
and
blackman
creek
must
be
completed.
Staff
recommends
approval
this
on
your
consent.
Agenda
next
is
21sn0667
in
midlothian
magisterial
district
otterdale
associates
llc.
This
project
is
commonly
known
as
the
lodge
at
wilder
rose
request.
Amendment
of
zoning
approval
case
20sn0594.
F
Relative
to
the
master
plan
density,
road
cash,
proffer,
age
restriction
and
development
standards
in
an
rmf
multi-family
district,
this
project
is
located
on
4.11
acres,
also
known
as
260
wild
rose
drive.
The
district
commissioner
in
this
area
is
recommending
deferral
to
your
march
15
2022
planning
commission
meeting
next
is
case.
21Sn0689.
F
In
dale,
magisterial
district
liberty,
farm
partners
request
conditioning
used
to
permit
a
second
dwelling
in
an
agricultural.
A
district
on
5.28
acres,
known
as
5418
newbies
bridge
road
staff
recommends
approval.
This
has
been
placed
on
your
staff
recommends
denial.
Sorry,
this
has
been
placed
on
your
discussion
agenda.
F
Next
is
21sn0699
and
dale
magisterial
district
chesterfield
county
capital
projects
request
condition
of
use
to
permit
a
government
building
in
an
a
district
on
65.59
acres
known
as
9200
public
works
road.
The
building
will
consist
of
an
animal
intake
and
adoption
center
that
will
be
operated
by
animal
control.
F
Staff
recommends
approval.
This
has
been
placed
on
your
consent
agenda
this
evening
and,
lastly,
you
have
21
sn
0-700
in
the
midlothian
magisterial
district
redkey
partners.
Westchester
3
request
amendment
of
zoning
approval
case
18
sn0595
relative
to
uses
in
a
general
industrial
i2
district.
The
property
is
located
on
1.45
acres,
approximately
200
feet
on
the
north
line
of
midlothian
turnpike
and
watkins
center
parkway
staff
recommends
approval
and
this
isn't
placed
on
your
consent
agenda
this
evening
now,
mr
chair,
this
concludes
your
agenda.
Review.
A
C
A
C
A
B
Yes,
sir,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
My
fellow
commissioners
should
have
the
agenda
item
before
them
identified
as
project
number
pete,
2022,
pj,
0110
and
again.
This
is
a
request
for
the
commission
to
initiate
an
application
for
rezoning
from
community
business,
c3
and
general
business
e5
to
a
community
business
c3
with
a
conditional
use
for
multi-family
dwelling
uses
and
conditional
use
plan
development
to
permit
exceptions
to
development
standards
on
1.6
acres,
known
as
2564
gwen
avenue.
G
A
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
That
brings
us
to
item
4b
on
our
agenda
today
and
that
is
going
to
be
a
report
and
overview
of
the
upper
magnolia,
green
east
and
west
development
zoning
cases.
I
believe
we're
starting
out
with
a
brief
introduction
today
and
then
we'll
go
straight
into
staff.
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
donahoe.
The
floor
is
yours,
sir.
H
H
This
it's
made
up
of
two
rezoning
cases.
It's
split
by
the
po
white
parkway.
We
refer
to
the
projects
as
upper
magnolia,
green
west
and
upper
magnolia
green
east.
What
we're
going
to
do
today
is
we're
going
to
continue
the
discussion
and
review
of
the
pro
of
the
proffers.
We
have
revised
proffers
as
well
as
a
revised
conceptual
plan,
so
we're
happy
to
bring
that
before
you
and
discuss
that
in
detail
and
how
we
kind
of
arrived
at
the
elements
that
are
contained
within
the
conceptual
plan
and
the
proffers
themselves.
H
We
have
assembled
a
team
today
to
go
through
the
various
sections
of
the
proffers
with
you.
We
have
this
folks
that
are
part
of
this
team
have
provided
they've,
provided
a
review
in
the
case
as
well
as
drafted
proffers
and
then
provided
comments
to
the
applicant
we
have.
The
applicant
in
this
case
is
the
eda
we
do
have
the
applicant's
representative
here
as
well.
That
would
be
available
to
answer
questions.
That's
andy
conlon
he's
in
the
audience
we
have.
H
The
structure
of
today's
presentation
will
be
to
go
through
the
upper
magnolia
west
project.
First,
we're
going
to
start
off
with
the
transportation
portion
of
the
review
provided
by
bren
epps.
Then
we're
going
to
have
the
utility
section
that'll
be
mike
mannery,
followed
by
engine
environmental
engineering,
scott
dunn
and
then
planning's
going
to
follow
up
at
the
end
of
that
to
go
through
the
the
properties
that
we
have
from
the
planning
perspective.
H
Okay.
So
before
we
get
into
that,
though,
I
just
want
to
recap
some
of
the
work
that
we've
done
so
far
with
there's
al
there's
been
a
lot
of
community
outreach.
There's
been
a
number
of
work
sessions,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
the
third
installment.
As
a
of
a
planning
commission
work
session,
we've
had
five
community
meetings
so
far,
four
were
solely
dedicated
for
the
discussion
of
this
case
and
there's
another
meeting
planned
on
on
march
10th,
that's
going
to
be
hosted
by
chair,
owens
and
and
commissioner
sloane,
so
we
have
that
upcoming.
H
This,
of
course,
is
a
very
large
project
and
naturally
it's
garnered
a
lot
of
public
attention
and
a
lot
of
feedback.
We
appreciate
folks
staying
engaged
in
the
project
and
helping
to
shape
this,
the
proffers
and
the
conceptual
plan
that
we
have
before
you
today
what
we
heard
with
all
that
all
the
public
feedback,
all
the
public
engagement
that
we've
had.
We
especially
early
on.
H
H
Perhaps
maybe
some
misinformation
about
what
exactly
the
uses
were,
that
we
were
proposing
the
i2
zoning
district
does
allow
for
a
lot
of
uses.
However,
in
this
particular
case,
we're
being
very
prescriptive
and
saying
only
seven
uses
now
are
going
to
be
permitted
on
the
property.
So
again,
we'll
go
through
all
that
in
detail
shortly.
The
construction
of
westerlu
parkway,
the
actually
the
ultimate
build-out,
whether
it's
a
two
or
four
lane
piece
of
infrastructure.
That
was
a
point
of
contention
that
we
heard
from
the
public
that
will
be
addressed
in
the
presentation.
H
Also,
the
the
school
site,
the
public
use
site
we
had
very
early
on.
We
had
a
high
school
middle
school
elementary
school
as
well
as
a
library
on
a
roughly
200,
acre
piece
of
property.
There's
been
changes
to
that.
We're
going
to
update
you
on
on
that.
There's
also
you
know
associated
with
that
particular
issue.
Is
traffic
to
that
site
and
the
construction
of
the
surrounding
infrastructure?
The
north-south
road,
in
particular
the
timing
thereof?
H
Next,
what
I
want
to
review
with
you
is
this:
this
slide.
This
has
been
shared
with
the
board
actually
and
what
this
is
is
representative
of
the
issues
that
were
raised
at
the
previous
two
planning
commission
work
sessions
and
the
follow-up
discussions
that
I've
had
with
each
one
of
you,
and
so
we
put
that
on
this
list
here
and
we're
going
to
be
addressing
each
one
of
these
in
this
presentation,
and
so
we're
looking
forward
to
that
to
get
into
the
detail
of
that
very
soon.
H
But
I
wanted
to
show
everybody
before
we
get
started.
This
is
the
revised
conceptual
plan
that
we
have
for
the
entirety
of
the
project.
This
is
this
includes
both
the
east
and
the
west
side
of
the
of
the
project.
As
you
can
see,
if
you
remember
the
the
original
plan,
this
is
definitely
an
improvement.
We
have
identified
areas
of
development,
we've
better
delineated,
the
rpa
environmental
areas
on
the
site,
improved
buffers
as
well.
H
We've
included
the
trail
network
which
we
did
have
before,
but
I
think
it's
a
better
developed
trail
network
this
time
around
and
so
we've
we've
heard
what
the
concerns
were.
The
planning
commission,
as
well
as
the
community
and
we've
addressed
those
in
features
in
the
conceptual
plan
and
we'll
go
into
this
in
more
detail,
but
first
up
we
have
brent
from
transportation
and
so
I'll
get
out
of
the
way
and
let
him
address
some
of
the
transportation
issues
with
the
project.
I
I
Okay,
so
as
those
are
being
distributed
for
your
reference,
just
wanted
to
start
with
a
little
bit
of
background
on
where
we
are
with
the
traffic
impact
analysis.
We
we
discussed
this
in
some
detail.
The
last
time
we
met,
but
I
did
want
to
update
you
that
both
both
of
the
tias
one
for
the
east
and
one
for
the
west
case
were
submitted
to
vdot
for
their
review
on
january,
the
14th
subsequent
to
the
submission
to
vdot.
I
Again,
the
tia
addresses
existing
conditions.
It
grows
that
future
based
on
the
existing
conditions.
It
also
grows
future
traffic,
both
with
and
without
the
development,
and
then
we
add
on
to
that
future
traffic
growth,
the
projected
development,
the
traffic
from
the
from
the
development
based
on
that
traffic
impact.
We
recommend
mitigation
measures
and
those
are
both
based
on
operational
analyses
and
safety.
I
I
I
Generally
speaking,
the
transportation
profits
for
the
west
case
are
broken
down
into
four
areas.
We
have
right-of-way
dedication,
an
access
condition,
road
improvements
and
a
phasing
condition
here
is
the
chart
that
outlines
the
right-of-way
dedications
for
the
roadways
that
we're
anticipating
improvements
along.
I
The
access
condition
is
a
condition
in
which
the
the
applicant
will
submit
an
access
plan
for
the
roadways
to
be
dedicated
to
the
county
and
that
access
plan
will
be
approved
by
us.
The
access
plan
that
they'll
provide
will
correspond
to
each
road
referenced
in
the
plan
and
in
such
a
time
that
the
access
is
proposed
to
or
from
the
property
to
that
roadway.
I
Getting
into
the
road
improvements
portion
of
the
proffer,
one
thing
we
want
to
note
is
that,
in
conjunction
with
initial
development
and
each
additional
phase
of
development,
the
owner
will
submit
for
approval
by
us
a
trafficked
impact
analysis
and
otherwise
known
as
a
traffic
study
and
a
plan
for
the
overall
development
of
the
property
showing
road
improvements
necessitated
by
the
uses
and
the
density
again.
That
traffic
study
would
be
provided
upon
initial
development
and
then
any
subsequent
phases
of
development.
I
So
we've
got
a
rather
lengthy
list
of
improvements
associated
with
the
west
case.
This
is
the
second
map
in
your
packet.
It's
a
little.
It's
a
little
easier
to
understand
the
level
of
the
improvements
when
looking
at
a
map
as
compared
to
just
a
list
of
improvements,
but
I'll
go
through
briefly
what
the
what
the
improvements
are,
and
if
you
have
any
questions
you
know,
please
don't
hesitate
to
ask
so
the
num.
I
I
The
proposed
improvements
at
that
intersection,
the
traffic
analysis
that
we've
done
wouldn't,
would
require
a
green
tea
signal
and
some
additional
turn
lanes.
But
again,
all
these
would
be
confirmed
and
in
accordance
with
the
the
traffic
analysis
that
the
developer
would
do
also
improvements
to
route
360
from
beaver
bridge
road
to
cosby
road.
I
I
Mount
herman
road
from
westerly
parkway
to
genito
road,
yes,
sir
genito
from
mount
hermon
to
otterdale,
improving
that
as
a
tulane,
yes,
otterdale
road
from
duvall
to
woolridge
road,
yes,
sir,
and
so
all
of
those
roadway
segment
improvements
would
also
have
their
corresponding
intersections
improved
as
well.
So
we
don't
have
specific
intersection
improvements
for
enter.
You
know
intersection.
Seven,
we
haven't,
we
have
an
idea
about
what
would
go
there,
but
those
are
not
listed
specifically
in
the
profits
because
they
would
be
included
as
part
of
the
roadway
improvements
for
that
area.
I
Is
that
clear,
okay
and
then,
as
a
part
of
the
roadway
improvements
proffer,
the
applicant
has
included
a
phasing
plan
will
be
provided
prior
to
any
site
plan
approval
for
the
improvements.
So,
along
with
the
traffic
study
and
then
prior
to
any
subsequent
site
plan
approval,
they
would
have
a
phasing
plan
approved
for
the
improvements
that
would
be
required
for
that
phase
of
their
development.
A
I
You're
referencing
intersection
number
19.
Yes,
sir,
mr
owens,
we
we
don't
have
any
right-of-way
in
that
area
at
this
point
at
this
point.
That
section
of
the
therefore
plan
are
our
lines
on
a
map
and
and
they
can
shift
one
way
or
the
other,
as
we
you
know
need
to
in
order
to
accommodate
those
improvements.
So
so,
while
we
have
them
shown
on
a
map,
we
haven't
located
them
from
an
engineering
standpoint
at
this
point,
so
they're
still
available
to
be
shifted
as
necessary.
A
A
I
I
A
I
We
do
expect
there
to
be
fewer
vehicles
using
westerly
parkway
between
otterdale
road
and
the
north-south
collector,
as
it
pertains
to
the
high
school
so
as
the
high
school
would
have
access
to
mount
hermon
access
to
you
know,
westerly
parkway,
west
of
the
pow
height
and
having
the
north-south
collector
constructed
between
westerly
and
duvall.
We
do
expect
that
to
relieve
some
traffic
from
westerly
between
otterdale
and
the
north-south
collector.
A
And
then
the
last
question
I
have-
and
it's
just
I'm
making
sure
I
understand
this.
One
of
the
things
you
all
said
was
there
would
be
no
access
to
the
site
from
mosley
road
and
that
that
small
road
on
the
northwest
corner
that
goes
to
mosley
road
from
the
site.
I'm
trying
to
understand
how
that
road
is
there
when
you're
saying
there's
going
to
be
no
access
to
mosley,
I'm
just.
I
J
I
In
the
previous
proposal,
with
all
three
schools
being
on
the
same
site,
we
knew
all
three
schools
were
going
to
be
accessed
in
the
same
way
from
the
network.
What
we've
done?
What
the
proposal
is
has
done
now
is
it's
taken
the
high
school
removed
it
from
that
original
school
campus
and
relocated
it
to
another
area
which
provides
different
points
of
access
and
opportunities
for
the
network
to
absorb
those
trips
in
a
different
way.
So,
overall,
it's
a
benefit
to
the
east
case,
because
it's
reduced
the
number
of
trips
in
the
west
case.
J
J
My
question
is
not
so
much
to
stump
you
or
anything.
It's
just
really
to
bring
light
to
some
things
have
been
moved
around.
Some
conversations
have
been
had
and
we
realized
that
originally
some
things
might
not
have
been
positioned
where
they
need
to
be
positioned
on
the
track
of
land
and
now
we've
we've
had
those
conversations,
gone
back
and
done
some
study
and
we
really
understand
where
they
need
to
go
now.
Based
on
those
conversations
that
what
you're
saying.
K
I
B
I
B
I
So
let
me
before
I
go
into
the
details
of
what's
in
the
proffer
I'll
I'll
state
in
general
terms,
the
the
difficulty
with
putting
together
a
phasing
plan,
for
I
mean
it's
the
it's
the
pow
height
that
we're
talking
about
so
the
difficulty
with
saying
before
you
have
x
number
of
square
feet
of
industrial
developed
on
the
on
the
site.
You
will
build
a
portion
of
the
pow
height
from
a
to
b
and
then
another
percentage
from
b
to
c
the
difficulty
with
that
is
I
can.
I
If
we
get,
let's
say
that
the
site
develops
with
two
million
square
foot
users,
so
you've
got
two
million
square
feet
out
there
and
you've
got
nothing
for
the
powhite
built,
and
then
you
get
another
user.
That's
two
million
square
feet,
so
you
got
four
million
square
feet.
You
still
have
nothing
built,
it'll,
be
a
race
to
4.9
million
square
feet
and
everything
will
stop
if.
B
B
A
B
I
I
The
eda
can
choose
to
include
it
or
not
include
it,
but
it
would
be
a
guess
on
my
part,
based
on,
however
many
square
feet,
we
want
to
include
or
however
many
trips
per
day.
We
want
to
include
as
to
what
user
it
is
and
where
it
would
be
located
on
the
site
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
still
think
it
would
be
a
race
to
that
minimum
number
of
trips
before
you
hit
that
trigger
to
build
the
pow
height
and
then
development
would
stop.
A
I
That's
with
initial
development
prior
to
any
plans
being
approved.
That
would
that
plan
for
the
power
parkway
extension,
including
a
timeline
and
a
financing
plan,
would
have
to
be
submitted
to
and
approved
by
the
board,
mr
chairman
and
then
prior
to
any
prior
to
the
issuance
of
any
co
for
any
development
on
the
property.
They
have
to
construct
two
lanes
of
powite
from
360
to
the
magnolia
green
parkway
interchange.
C
I
C
I
I
I
understand
the
point
of
the
question:
it's
it's
a
large
project.
It's
dependent
upon
much
right
away.
We
need
to
buy
because
at
that
particular
location
for
that
particular
project.
The
right-of-way
acquisition
is
more
expensive
than
the
construction
just
by
the
nature
of
where
it
is
and
what's
adjacent
to
the
interchange,
so
different
sort
of
topic
in
conversation,
but
it's
dependent
upon
a
number
of
factors,
but
yes,
partially
the
state
partially,
our
our
regional
funding
authority,
partially,
depending
on
where
it
falls
in
the
priority
list.
K
B
How
would
the
boy
how
and
I
don't
want
to
I'm
getting
outside
my
swim
lane
and
I
shouldn't
do
this,
but
how
can
we
put
a
reasonable
proffer
or
recommend
a
re
except
a
reasonable
proffer
from
the
applicant
that
includes
a
component
called
financing
when
that's
not
something?
That's
necessarily
within
the
board
of
supervisors,
control.
C
Mr
chairman,
and
just
to
understand
that,
wouldn't
because
at
that
point
in
time,
when
a
plan
is
being
presented,
a
developer
is
going
to
be
known
and
at
that
point
the
board
would
have
the
facts
to
base
the
decision
on
to
to
know.
If
a
financing
plan
was
going
to
be
viable
or
not,
depending
on
who
that
user
is.
I
Yes,
ma'am
and,
and
the
count
into
mr
sloane's
point
that
the
county
would
have
to
be
at
the
table.
The
state
would
have
to
be
at
the
table
there.
Wouldn't
there
need
to
be
a
number
of
of
key
stakeholders
and
and
players
at
the
table
to
develop
that
that
timeline
and
financing
plan
that
will
not
be
created
in
a
vacuum.
I
I
A
A
I
So
what
they,
in
our
conversations
with
vdot,
they
are
working
to
understand
the
mitigating
improvement.
The
improvements
that
we're
making
to
mitigate
the
development
do
not
address
all
of
the
issues
that
we're
having
on
the
intersections
within
the
study
area.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
parse
out
the
impacts
based
on
the
development
versus
some
issues
that
already
exist
along
the
corridor
and
in
specific
intersections.
So,
yes,
sir,
we're
having
ongoing
conversations
we'll
feed
out
about
those
locations.
I
B
B
B
B
B
B
That
would
that
would
give
perhaps
give
a
give
perhaps
a
recommendation
on
given
a
certain
number
of
trips
per
day.
So
maybe
it's
something
like
for
every
million
square
foot.
That's
developed.
It
triggers
a
traffic
impact
analysis,
and
you
know
we
look
at
number
of
trips
generated
that
could
come
up
with
a
a
modeling
exercise
for
the
phasing
for
both
the
thoroughfare
plan
and
then
maybe
one
from
for
the
extension
to
go
from
the
northern
northern
boundary
up
to.
I
think
it's.
I
To
the
to
the
network,
external
of
the
site
are
are
a
result
of
the
analysis
that
we've
that
we've
already
done
what
what
we're
requiring
of
the
developer
is
that
again,
just
as
you
mentioned,
regardless
of
how
many
or
the
size
of
each
phase
of
development
we're
going
to
require.
That
study
be
done.
So
I
think
the
first
part
of
your
question-
we've
captured
the
second
part
related
to
the
number
of
trips
generated
based
on
those
those
phases
or
plans
for
development
to
model
impacts
to
the
fairfare
plan.
I
Again,
I
think
we've
got
a
pretty
good
idea
of
what
that
is,
but
certainly
the
subsequent
traffic
studies
that
will
be
done
as
a
part
of
the
proper
conditions
will
speak
to
that.
You
know
more
more
specifically,
I
think
where
we're
really
at
is
trying
to
to
look
at
a
st
at
a
at
a
model
that
would
somehow
provide.
I
I
I
B
I
I
don't
think
it's
unreasonable
in
that
recommendation
in
the
staff
report
or
the
board
to
have
a
good
understanding
of
what
what
are
the?
What
are,
what
are
the
metrics
that
that
they're
going
to
need
to
look
at
and
consider
when
it
comes
to?
Does
that
road
get
built
to
a
public-private
partnership?
Does
it
get
built
with
stunt
funding
from
the
state?
If
it,
you
know
all
of
those
what-if
scenarios,
but
I
think
it's
a
reasonable
expectation
that
that
there's
a
knowledge
of
you
know
based
on
a
certain
metric.
B
B
The
only
thing
that
I
probably
need
additional
help
with
and
I'll,
let
you
go
okay.
You
know
when
I
look
at
when
I
look
at
the
road
improvements
under
profit
10,
I
see
language
that
says
as
part
of
plan
review
for
phase
one
owner
developers
shall
submit
the
transportation
department,
traffic
impact
analysis,
such
improvements,
and
then
it
says
at
each
phase
of
development.
B
L
J
L
Submittal
to
get
start
to
establish
what
level
of
a
tia
would
be
necessary
for
them
to
put
together
for
that
project,
be
it
a
10-acre
site
or
a
200-acre
site.
They
would
be
putting
together
the
appropriate
tia
based
on
what
they're
proposing
at
that
location.
So
it
could
be
a
larger
full-blown
global
type
of
present
tia
or
it
could
be
a
much
smaller
kind
of
project,
depending
on
the
the
size
and
scale
of
the
of
the
proposal
that's
being
made,
but
for
every
site
plan
that
would
be
coming
into
within
upper
magnolia
west.
A
K
B
Again
this
is
this
is
just
me.
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
any
other
commissioners
up
here,
but
if
andy,
if
maybe
your
team
could
work
with
brett
to
just
make
it
just
a
little
a
little
clearer
to
those
of
us
that
don't
spend
our
lives
in
planning
all
the
time
and
understanding
the
nuances
of
of
what
exactly
is
trick.
What
are
the
specific
events
that
will
trigger
yeah?
That
will
that
we.
L
L
I
just
you
know,
I
know
this
is
hard.
It's
a
lot
to
digest,
for
you
guys
as
much
as
you
can
provide
us
in
input
regarding
transportation
aspects
to
the
west
side.
If
there's
any
other
thoughts
you're
having
such
as
what
mr
sloan's
been,
you
know
explaining
and
trying
to
get
across
any
of
the
other
thoughts
you
guys
had
as
to
how
we
might
be
able
to
approach
this.
It
is
a
very
unusual
and
complicated
pros
project
and
we're
we're.
L
A
Oh,
you
weren't
thinking
that
oh
okay!
Well,
I'm
thinking
that
I'm
worried
about
that.
I'm
worried
about
it
changing
because
nothing
in
there
says
I
have
to
come
back
through
planning
again
and
go
through
public
hearings
and
people
hear
what
the
plan
is.
It
just
says
the
board's
going
to
make
a
plan
and
it
leaves
it
open-ended
for
the
board
to
come
through
and
make
that
plan
and
make
changes
to
it,
how
they
see
fit
in
the
future
without
any
kind
of
phasing
plan.
Yeah
the
phasing
plan,
without
anybody
really
having
to
do
it
publicly.
A
K
A
M
L
M
K
B
You
know
a
successful
employment
center
in
an
environment
where
the
state
and
the
federal
government
says
we,
we
don't
have
an
extra
billion
dollars
laying
around.
We
gave
all
that
money
out
in
2021
2022
right.
We
gave
the
however
many
trillions
out
for
federal
transportation
dollars,
and
you
know
that's
covering
us
for
the
next
15
years
or
something
like
that.
So
I
I
worry
about
going
back
to
what
the
chair
said.
B
I
understand
some
will
take
woolwich
some
take
whatever,
but
but
even
if
it's
half
that
30
000
trips,
something
like
that
to
me,
there
has
to
be
some
sort
of
metrics
to
ensure
either
either
you're
going
to
pull
back
on
the
liver.
You
know
there's
going
to
be
something
that
says
we're
going
to
pull
back
on.
B
B
Neither
here
nor
there,
but
by
the
same
token
I
can't
think
of
too
many
cases.
Large
cases
and
again,
I
think
cases
like
roseland
and
branner
station,
where
you
know
thoroughfare
plans
in
detail,
were
approved,
phasing
and
I
mean
bran
or
station.
I
mean
how
much
more
meticulous.
Could
it
be
right,
x,
number
of
houses
triggers
this
sex
number
units
triggers
that
whole
nine
yards.
Nowhere
in
there
was
there
was
there
was
there
and
I
think
they
were
building
up.
B
You
know
they're
building
the
east-west
freeway,
you
know
big
expensive
roads,
but
nowhere
in
that
case
did
it
say
contingent
upon
hh
hunt's
ability
to
get
financing
that
wasn't
our
problem.
They
had
to
build
it
one
way
or
the
other.
So
I
you
know
that
that's
I.
I
worry
about
a
huge
amount
of
traffic
ending
up
on
360.,
simply
because
this
thing
evolves
in
a
way
that
maybe
we
just
haven't
anticipated
how
it
could
now-
and
I
don't
have
a
solution.
I
don't
yeah.
L
L
It's
going
to
take
a
partnership
of
state
and
federal
and
county
to
and
the
developer,
to
make
that
road
connection
so
figuring
out
how
to
do.
That
is
tough.
What
the
idea
and
as
everyone
is
you've
been
talking
about
you
know,
kind
of
and
and
the
point
that
mr
epps
brought
up
as
to
once
we
get
close
to
that
benchmark.
It
would
kind
of
start
to
slow
down
development
because
nobody
wanted
to
cross
that
hurdle.
L
If
there
is
a
way
we
could
create,
some
sort
of
you
know
incremental
pay
in
as
depending
on
you.
If
you
were
creating
x
number
of
trips
with
it,
whatever
you
were
proposing
with
with
your
project
you
had
to
provide,
you
know
a
certain
contribution
based
on
those
trips.
Would
that
be?
I
don't
know,
would
that
be
for
a
project
like
this,
be
something
that
would
be
a
better
more
important.
A
Could
we
maybe
look
at
something?
Could
we
maybe
look
at
something
like
we?
We
have
people
proffer
so
much
per
house
profits
how
much
per
square
foot
or
something
of
that
nature.
I
guess
the
worry
is
that
you
say
you
say
that
the
development
will
slow
down
when
we
get
to
a
certain
point
where
one
of
the
triggers
are
that's
kind
of
the
whole
point
of
the
phasing
in
order
to
keep
going.
A
You've
got
to
do
this
part
here
in
order
to
go
to
the
next
phase
and
if
it
slows
it
down
and
stops,
then
that's
kind
of
the
point,
if
they're
not
doing
the
rest
of
it.
That
needs
to
stop,
because
we
can't
keep
doing
what
we've
done
the
whole
street
and
what
we've
done
to
some
of
the
other
parts
of
the
county.
A
A
We've
we've
got
to
start
putting
plans
in
place
and
and
make
them
phase
in
and
make
them
stick
to
the
phases
and
not
give
people
outs
and
not
change
things
later,
and
I
think
we're
doing
a
good
job
of
that
now.
But
we've
got
to
we've
got
to
start
doing
that
and
sticking
to
that,
or
else
we're
going
to
end
up
with
unpassable
roads.
J
You
know,
I
see,
I
see
it
kind
of
both
ways
right
because,
with
the
developer,
they
they're
gonna,
they
have
income
coming
in
they
can.
They
can
make
that
happen
more
more
so
than
chestnut
county,
because
chesterfield
county
will
be
in
charge
of
making
sure
they
had
enough
money
in
order
to
make
the
road
improvement.
So
I
guess-
and
it
might
be
something
that
economic
development
might
have
some
ideas
on
or
some
other
department
agencies
might
be
able
to
help
us
with
making
the
framework
to
say
when
you
get
to
a
certain
point.
J
Hopefully
we'll
have
the
money
in
place
the
revenue
in
place
based
on
what
we,
what
we
expect
to
get
in
from
income
taxable
income,
and
maybe
it's
maybe
it's
traced
to
the
taxes.
Maybe
it's
traced
to
something
else
for
the
businesses
that
we'll
put
on
those
parcels.
So
I
don't.
I
think
that
a
developer
has
that
same
kind
of
issue
in
a
way,
because
they're
trying
to
figure
out
how
many
houses
do
I
have
to
build
in
order
to
make
those
road
improvements
and
we're
kind
of
looking
at
it.
J
How
what
do
we
have
to
attract?
What's
a
what's
it,
maybe
it's
a
tax
rate.
Maybe
it's
something
like
that
that
we're
trying
to
figure
out
the
trigger
for
us
to
do
that.
So
maybe
that's
a
conversation.
We
can
have
offline
when
we
when
we
meet
individually
with
the
planning
team,
but
I
see
it,
I
see
it.
J
You
know
kind
of
both
ways
for
as
soon
as
when,
when
you
have
a
public
project
like
this
versus
a
private
project,
I
think
you
kind
of
run
into
some
some
barriers
there,
where
you
might
need
to
reallocate
some
funds
to
another
project
or
something
else
gets
a
different
priority.
So
you
can't
shift
that
priority
as
quick.
J
L
L
J
J
Right,
so
we
know
that
we
can
allocate.
We
need
to
allocate
this
amount
of
money
to
the
road
improvement
and
figure
out
how
we
do
that
in
ear
market
throughout
the
budgeting
cycle,
to
make
sure
we
have
enough
money
at
that
at
that
particular
time.
I
don't
know.
If
that's
I
don't
know,
if
that's
the
right
answer,
but
it's
just
we're
kind
of
openly
talking
about
is
our
work
session,
so
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
what
are
the
triggers.
J
N
N
N
N
So,
a
little
bit
more
about
pre-treatment,
chair
owens
asked
the
last
conversation
we
had
about
this
subject
matter.
What
were
some
of
the
things
that
we
regulated?
We
do
metals,
we
do
ph
fats,
oils
and
grease.
We
commonly
call
it
fog,
those
things
clog
up.
Our
system
total
suspended
solids,
biological
oxygen
demand
and
then
the
old
chest-based
stuff,
the
nitrogen
and
phosphorus
and
removal
that
we
do
we
have.
Actually.
I
said
we
had
a
robust
pre-treatment
system.
N
N
N
What
do
these
groups
do
in
the
pictures?
I've?
These
are
actual
pictures
from
our
team.
They
go
out,
they
do
wastewater
sampling.
Two
of
the
pictures
show
one
of
our
team
members
installing
the
sampler
in
a
manhole.
It
shows
the
manhole
sampler
installed
grabbing
the
samples
out
of
the
actual
sewer
system
below
grade
and
then
some
of
our
site
inspections.
One
of
those
is
the
upper
left,
is
sabra
and
the
lower
right
is
at
the
defense
supply
center.
N
At
the
last
community
meeting,
there
was
some
conversation
about
how
will
we
assure
that
our
waste
water
and
water
system
is
of
quality
construction
and
it
won't
leak
out
into
the
ground
water?
So
I
want
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
assuring
you
that
our
construction
inspectors
are
on
the
job
we
have
seven
of
them.
N
This
is
dj.
Messer
in
the
upper
right
hand,
corner
he's
one
of
our
principal
construction
inspectors.
We
have
a
vigorous
inspection
program,
our
system
components
are
pressure
tested,
we
pressure
test,
make
sure
they
don't
leak.
Substances
out
or
substances
leak
into
them,
so
water
and
wastewater
are
pressure,
tested
a
little
bit
differently
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
construction
phase,
when
everything
is
covered
up,
we
actually
send
a
closed
circuit
tv
camera
into
the
sewer
systems.
N
To
look
for
defects
in
debris
that
may
have
been
deposited
during
construction
that
we
can't
see
from
the
surface
maintenance
concerns
I
hit
on
that.
At
the
last
conversation
we
had
we
periodically
go
and
inspect
our
systems,
principally
our
smaller
diameter
wastewater
pipes,
and
we
do
cleaning
of
them
routinely
to
prevent
blockages.
B
Commissioner
sloan
thanks
like
I
actually
just
have
one
question
so
going
back
to,
and
I
know
it's
been
a
long
time
since
the
91
case,
but
there
was
a,
there
was
a
there
was
something
I
noticed,
and
it
basically
said
a
portion
of
the
request
site
lies
within
the
appomattox
river
drainage
basin,
and
it
may
not
be
feasible
to
serve
development
in
this
area.
With
the
public
system.
Do
we
have
parts
of
either
one
of
these,
the
east
or
the
west?
That
because
of
slope,
drainage.
N
Yes,
sir,
we
do
indeed,
let
me
clarify
for
the
west,
there
is
a
small
portion
that
drains
towards
the
apple
max
river
basin
and
the
east.
There
is
none
that
all
drains
back
towards
the
swift
creek
basin,
so
there's
a
provision
in
this
case
that
allows
for
a
public
wastewater
pump
station
as
a
you
permitted
use
for
a
small
area
to
the
western
part
of
the
west
case,
and
that
proffer
is
in
there
only
if
we
needed
it.
N
So
it
is
a
very
small
portion
of
that
area
that
could
be
utilized
for
something
else
that
doesn't
necessarily
generate
public
waste
water
in
typical
site
development.
If
you
have
a
high
area
and
a
low
area
in
the
low
area
can't
be
served.
Well,
that's
a
great
place
to
put
your
parking
or
your
storm
water
basin
that
doesn't
need
public
sewer.
B
N
B
One
other
question
so
so
again
back
in
the
in
the
89
or
91
case,
whichever
one
we
refer
to
it.
As
it
says,
the
developers
have
agreed
to
fund
the
purchase
and
installation
of
up
to
two
water
quality
monitoring
stations,
plus
one
spare
station.
The
stations
will
be
placed
on
the
tributaries
which
serve
the
development.
B
The
utilities
department
has
been
charged
by
the
board
of
supervisors
with
responsibility
for
monitoring
water
quality
in
the
swift,
creek
reservoir
and
its
tributaries,
and
it
says
utilities
department
will
accept
the
responsibility
of
the
monitoring
stations,
were
those
stations
ever
installed
and
is
that
something
that's
still
under
y'all's
domain?
Or
do
I
get
to
chat
with
mr
smedley
about
that
later?
Well,.
N
They
are
not
actively
being
used
at
this
particular
point
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge
and
I
will
defer
to
ee
because
they
actually
own
and
maintain
those
versus
the
utility
department
for
any
other
additional
details.
There
is
one
that's
close
to
the
actual
fire
station
out.
There,
fires
at
mag
green,
the
lower
mag
green
fire
station,
where
the
tributary
comes
through
there.
Okay,.
N
They
they
are,
they
are
high
maintenance,
low
return
on
investment
that
we
talked
about
earlier
and
I
believe
ee
does
other
alternative
measures
to
check
for
the
water
quality
in
those
streams
and
the
reservoir.
I
do
know
that,
for
the
reservoir
is
periodically
checked,
so
there's
other
functions
that
we
are
doing
to
maintain
and
perform
that
function.
L
O
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
I'm
scott
dunn
assistant
director
of
environmental
engineering,
ee's
proffers,
for
this
case,
really
hasn't
changed
since
the
last
work
session.
When
mr
smedley
went
through
those,
they
are
still
providing
the
enhanced
erosion
and
sediment
control
measures
to
be
used
during
construction
to
help
limit
the
amount
of
any
sediment
that
may
escape
the
site,
along
with
minimizing
disturbance
on
any
steep
slopes
out
there,
along
with
that,
they
are
proffering
down
to
protect
downstream
properties
for
flooding
and
that's
typically
on
the
100-year
storm.
A
O
A
The
other
question
I
was
asked
about
some
of
the
residents
around
here:
will
there
be
any
measures
put
in
place
to
keep
track
of
the
groundwater
for
any
possible
contaminations
from
the
site
and
have
a
monitoring
plan
for
that
over
a
period
of
time?
To
make
sure
none
of
the
industrial
that
goes
into
this
site
affects
the
groundwater
for
the
residents
and
the
perimeter
of
the
area.
O
B
So,
scott,
in
a
site
like
this,
where
we
take
what
is
what
is
currently
a
heavily
forested
area,
the
the
western
side,
especially,
is
basically
from
a
layman's
standpoint.
I'm
sure
we
can
find
a
stream
that
goes
farther,
but
it's
essentially
the
formation
of
the
two
creeks
that
ultimately
feed
into
the
swift
creek
reservoir.
B
O
That's
always
going
to
affect
probably
the
the
groundwater
table
and
the
depth,
but
the
the
stormwater
regs
technically
are
supposed
to
be
promoting
that
your
post-develop
project
is
imitating
your
pre-developed
hydrology,
so
that,
depending
on
what
type
of
bmps
they
use
to
help
might
be
able
to
help
recharge
the
groundwater.
Okay.
B
B
O
A
H
Yes,
exactly
so
here's
this
slide
again,
just
to
put
it
up
before
you
just
again.
What
I'm
going
to
be
doing
is
going
through
the
things
that
you've
already
told
us
that
you
wanted
us
to
address,
either
via
proffer
or
can
or
changes
to
the
conceptual
plan
I'm
going
to
go
through
one
by
one
and
and
and
whatever
it
is
that
you
would
like
to
discuss
we'd
be
happy
to
kind
of
go
into
these,
and
if
you
have
any
ideas
as
directory
gilly's
has
you
know
put
out
there.
H
If
you
have
any
ideas,
if
you
don't
think
a
profit
goes
far
enough,
we're
all
layers
and
we'd
be
open
to
hear
more
of
what
your
thoughts
are
so
again
just
to
revisit
what
the
upper
magnolia
west
project
is.
It's
a
it's
a
large
scale
rezoning,
it's
1,
728
acres,
it's
going
from
r9
and
agricultural
to
i2
for
the
ultimate
development
of
what
we're
calling
it
technology
village
consisting
of
employment
generating
uses
advanced
manufacturing
is
one
thing
we've
called
out.
H
You
know
that
that
it's
kind
of
a
generic
term
for
some
of
these
manufacturing
uses
we've
identified
in
the
seven
uses
that
we
could
potentially
have
on
the
property,
also
allow
for
some
office
and
commercial
uses.
We
also
have
public
facilities
that
would
be
necessary
to
serve
the
property
if
the
property
is
going
to
develop.
H
In
accordance
with
the
plan,
we
have
a
fire
station
as
well
as
a
school
site
that
would
be
included
into
in
the
project
and
included
in
the
proffers,
as
well
as
an
increase
from
150
feet
up
to
199
feet
for
a
water
tower,
and
those
last
three
things
I
just
mentioned
would
be
requiring
a
conditional
use
plan
development,
and
that
will
be
noted
in
the
staff
report
as
well
as
how
we
advertise
the
case
moving
forward
so
to
get
into
the
the
issues
here.
What
you
see
in
highlighted
comes
off
of
that
slide.
H
So
we
took
a
look
at
including
a
what
is
ultimately
determined
or
became
a
ring
road,
and
so
the
significance
of
this
design
versus
what
we
had
before.
What
we'd
shown
you,
which
was
really
just
a
representation
of
the
thoroughfare
plan,
which
somewhat
unnecessarily
parsed
this
this
piece
of
property
into
smaller
developable
areas,
and
that
was
again
the
third
floor
plan
for
planned
from
1989.
H
Here
we
are
now
with
this
change,
which
has
a
ring
road
concept
which
allows
for
larger
contiguous
developable
areas,
but
then
still
gets
at
the
the
need
for
transportation
or
trips
dispersion
throughout
the
area
we
talked,
we
talked
actually
for.
Another
point
was
access
points.
The
this
mainly
came
from
conversation,
I
think
from
folks
in
the
mosley
road
area
we
wanted
to.
H
There
was
concern
about
having
a
westward
connection
to
mosley
road.
A
vehicular
connection
in
particular,
didn't
want
to
have
that
be
kind
of
a
back
entrance
into
the
park.
We
understood
that
made
sense.
We've
included
restrictions
in
the
proffers
as
well
as
not
shown
any
type
of
access.
In
fact,
we
have
a
very
wide
buffer
now
on
the
west
side
of
of
the
property
that
so
with
the
proffer
and
the
conceptual
plan,
we
don't
intend
to
have
a
vehicular
access
on
the
west
side
of
the
project
we
have.
There
was
a
point,
commissioner
owens.
H
H
H
I
do
think
that
I
would
say
that
this
is
a
comparable
type
of
proposal
that
we
would
entertain
from
a
private
developer
for
a
speculative
rezoning
similar
to
this
going
into
buffers
buffers.
What
we've
done
since
the
last
version
of
the
conceptual
plan
that
you
saw,
we
have
a
now
a
200
foot
buffer,
that's
along
the
western
portion
of
the
property
and
in
a
lot
of
places,
as
I
mentioned,
it
would
even
exceed
that
quite
a
bit
and
so
just
going
into
the
buffer
topic
again.
This
is
a.
H
This
is
one
that
we've
talked
about
in
every
one
of
the
community
meetings
we've
had
to
date.
It's
obviously
a
very
important
thing
for
folks.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
people
feel
comfortable
with
the
protections
we've
put
into
this
project.
When
we
look
at
this
particular
project
and
what
the
uses
are
we're
trying
to
permit
on
the
property
we
want
to,
you
know
insulate
the
site
from
the
surrounding
properties
as
best
we
could
as
best
we
could-
and
I
do
think,
we've
put
forward
a
solid
effort
in
doing
this.
H
We
have
one
of
the
benefits
of
this
particular
property.
Is
it's
very
heavily
wooded,
so
we
intend
to
use
the
existing
ford
forested
vegetation
to
to
you
know
become
that
buffer
area
so
that
you
know
starting
day.
One
of
any
use
commencing
on
the
property
you'll
have
that
buffer
in
its
mature
state.
That's
a
positive!
H
H
We
also
have-
and
this
is
the
one
that's
been
discussed-
quite
a
bit-
is
the
perimeter
buffer
and
that
we've
written
it
in
the
proffers
to
be
a
variable
with
buffer,
but
having
a
minimum
of
200
feet
and
then
the
buffer
will
be
provided
in
in
accordance
with
the
conceptual
plan,
and
so
I
want
to
zoom
in.
Let
me
show
you
this
real
quickly
included
this.
This
is
where
we
were
before.
H
This
is
the
previous
conceptual
plan
which
showed
a
100
foot
buffer
and
very
little
detail,
interior
and,
and
obviously,
we've
we've
advanced
the
bill
quite
a
bit.
We
now
have
this.
This
exhibit
I've
zoomed
in
on
the
portion
of
the
buffer,
where
we
have
a
adopted
a
put
forward,
an
idea,
that's,
hopefully
going
to
show
that
we've
put
forward
an
effort
to
you
know,
protect
those
the
folks
that
live
along
the
western
portion
of
the
property,
in
particular
on
mosley
road.
We
have
just
to
explain
what
we're
what
we're
doing
here.
H
I
mentioned
it's
a
variable
with
buffer,
but
it's
a
200
foot
minimum.
What
we've
done
is
we've
taken
a
look
at
and
we've
measured,
750
feet
from
the
nearest
residential,
existing
residential
units
and
measured
inward
into
the
site,
and
so
any
portion
of
that
once
750
foot
distance
that
falls
within
the
upper
magnolia
west
site
will
become
buffer.
K
H
H
H
C
J
C
Does
have
variable
width,
which
leaves
that
open?
What
does
variable
width
mean,
and
I
know
you're
proffering,
the
exhibit,
which
shows
that
distance,
but
the
butt
for
me
is.
I
would
like
to
see
some
explanation
of
that
commitment
to
that
750
foot
distance
written
in
the
text
of
the
buffer,
whether
that's
defined
or
described
as
a
buffer
or
setback.
I
think
that
750
but
number
for
some
properties
is
the
minimum
and
the
way
this
is
written.
It
kind
of
leaves
that
open
to
question.
So
I
would
like
to
see
some
language
that
would
clarify
that.
H
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
putting
the
750
feet
in
in
my
terms,
I'm
picturing
two
nfl
football
fields,
long
ways:
you
know
that
that's
a
pretty
significant
amount
of
preserved
space,
but
to
try
to,
I
guess,
envision
the
entirety
of
what
we're
preserving
there.
Do
we
have
any
idea
of
the
length
of
it
rather
than
just
the
width,
because
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
with
this
project
how
much
green
space
would
we
actually
be
preserving
in
this
part
of
the
county,
with
just
this
buffer
alone?.
H
H
C
Mr,
mr
chairman,
I
think,
to
follow
up
on
commissioner
petrovsky's
point.
It
does
seem
like
with
the
trail
network
and
the
the
width
and
length
of
these
buffers
are.
Would
you
be
in
a
position
to
give
an
estimate
of
a
percentage
of
open
space?
That's
going
to
be
provided
in
a
land
plan.
That's
shown
on.
The
conceptual
exhibit.
H
C
B
B
You
know
non-disturbance
areas
if
we
could,
if
we
could
look
at
the
site
and
try
and
determine
you
know
where
those
would
be
applicable
as
well,
I'm
not
personally,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
plant
one
tree
for
every.
You
know
200
square
feet
we've
always
at
least
to
my
recollection.
We've
always
used
a
certain
landscaping,
landscaping,
a
landscaping
b,
landscaping
c.
But
again
I
would
like.
I
would
like
the
buffers
to
to
look
more.
K
B
B
B
L
With
whatever
berm
techniques
might
be
necessary
for
screening,
so
you
have
the
200
foot
minimum
buffer
and
you
have
potentially
the
750
foot,
but
then
outside
of
that
would
be
where
some
of
the
techniques
like
berming
might
take
place.
If
there
needed
to
be
screening
from
doctors
or
from
things
like
that,
that
would
be
kind
of
more
interior
to
this
kind
of
green
moat
that
we're
building
around
this
whole
site,
because
we
don't,
you
know,
know
what
the
uses
are
going
to
be,
but
we
only
have
a
limited
number
of
uses.
B
My
ultimate
goal
without
having
specific
language
is
one
of
the
things
I
do
think
we
did
successfully
was,
for
the
most
part
in
the
grant.
It's
not
exclusive,
certainly
the
dead
of
winter.
You
can
certainly
see
through
some
of
the
trees
and
which
is
kind
of
why
I'm
a
little
nervous
to
let's
plant
a
tree
here
and
there
also
there.
I
don't
see
any
language
in
here
where
it
says
those
buffers
need
to
be
maintained.
B
A
B
B
H
All
right
so
moving
on
to
some
of
the
other
points
that
you've
shared
with
me
along
the
way
wanted
to
take
a
look
at
further
limiting
uses
or
creating
greater
setback
of
undesirable
uses.
I
think
we're
trying
to
actually
do
both
here
greater
setback
and
that
we've
created
greater
distance
between
where
folks
live
and
where
the
ultimate
construction
will
be
because
of
the
that
substantial
buffer
rose.
We
just
discussed
proper
two
is
the
uses
proffer,
and
so,
as
I
mentioned,
we're
down
to
seven
primary
uses.
H
Folks
did
express
some
concern
with
the
plastics
manufacturing,
so
that
has
been
removed
as
a
primary
use
and
actually
fell
into
the
accessory
use
category.
So
you
can
see
we've
we've,
you
know,
you
know
made
some
changes
to
the
uses
permitted
on
the
property
again
of
the
universe
of
uses
that
would
be
permitted
in
a
typical
i2
site.
This
is
nowhere
near
that
we're
just
down
to
seven.
B
H
Okay,
so
you
kind
of
beat
me
to
the
punch
on
this
one
for
outdoor
store.
Actually,
you
gotta
there's
a
different
profit,
but
for
outdoor
storage
we
want
to
take
a
look
at
having
this
be
in
a
place.
That's
not
visible,
of
course,
so
we
want
to
screen
it.
We
also
don't
want
it
any
closer
than
500
feet
to
the
boundary
line
of
the
property
and
that's
again
to
further
safeguard
any.
You
know,
visual
impact
on
neighbors
so
that
that's
a
profit
we've
included
in
the
case.
C
I
had
a
question
about
that,
so
you
feel
like
the
distance
of
500
feet.
If
there
were
cranes
that
were
being
stored,
if
the
crane
were
extended,
would
that
be
visible
because
you
can't
screen
or
fence
that
so
could
there
be
a
proffer
that
said
any
stored
equipment,
like
cranes
or
bucket
trucks,
would
be
stored
at
their
lowest.
H
H
H
Building
height
150
feet
is
the
as
the
i2
standard.
We
did
go
a
little
bit
further
to
explain
that
this
is
applicable
to
all
elements
of
the
building.
Any
architectural
elements
that
you
know
might
be
a
potential
concern
for
folks:
everything's
capped
at
150
feet.
So
we're
clear
about
that
that,
of
course,
you
know
water
towers,
which
we
discussed
before
a
height
of
up
to
199
feet
which
would
exceed
that
150
standard.
Those
that
profit
would
not
apply
to
that
particular
piece
of
infrastructure.
H
Noise
noise
has
been
discussed.
We've
applied
a
proffer
here
that
sets
a
a
decibel
level
of
65,
which
would
be
measured
at
the
at
the
property
line,
and
this
is
you
know,
we've
split
it
into
daytime
decibel
levels
and
evening
decibel
levels
to,
of
course,
honor
the
evening
hours
and
that
so
that
addresses
the
noise
issue.
We
have
a
proffer
that
speaks
to
the
kind
of
the
conformity
of
lighting
and
the
hierarchy
of
lighting
as
we
included
in
the
language
throughout
the
project.
Again,
you
know
this
is
a
campus.
H
H
H
K
L
C
So,
mr
donahoe
not
really
affecting
the
standards
during
operations
which
is
except
what
you
have
provided
for,
but
could
there
be
some
restrictions
on
hours
of
construction?
So
is
it
gonna
reconstruction
be
permitted
seven
days
a
week
six
days
a
week
ending
at
four
o'clock
on
saturday?
Are
there
reasonable
hours
that
could
be
put
in
place?
That
would
be
more
considerate
of
the
neighbors
yeah.
J
H
J
Yeah-
and
we
understand
that
with
the
with
the
buffer
zones
and
that
sort
of
thing
you
know
we
might
have
expanded
hours
of
construction
because
at
different
phases
of
the
construction
time,
you
know
we
we
might
not
be
impacting
the
neighbors
around
us,
depending
on
the
desimal
level
or
even
or
even
the
light
pollution.
If
it's
going
on,
you
know
24
hours
a
day
in
order
to
get
our
you
know,
get
the
tenant
in
at
a
reasonable
time
limit.
J
So
we
don't
we
we
don't
need
to
say
in
my
mind,
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
say
hey,
you
know
only
construction
between
eight
and
four,
but
we
also
need
to
maybe
put
some
parameters
in
there
in
terms
of
noise.
If
it
occurs,
if
construction
is
going
on
24
hours
a
day
or
something
like
that
in
order
to
get
the
tenant
in
there
they
won't
exceed.
You
know
this
amount
of
decimals.
J
L
J
B
B
You
know
perhaps
there's
a
way
we
can
try
and
measure
something
at
property
lines,
but-
and
I'm
just
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
raleigh.
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
rtp
and
you
know
if
the
board
of
supervisors
was
to
approve
a
case
like
this
and
you
get
an
intel
or
somebody
like
that
that
actually
you
know
we
get
an
intel,
they
they
will
go
24
7
building
it.
You
know,
and
I
think
any
any
piece
of
industrial
equipment
bulldozer
dump
truck
anything
it's
going
to
exceed.
B
J
L
We've
spent
a
lot
of
internal
time
trying
to
find
out
what
that
good.
Balancing
point
is
and
we
from
a
staff
standpoint,
we
came
up
with
the
65
decibels
during
the
day
and
55
at
night.
So
that's
what's
in
the
case
now,
so
that's
for
normal
operating
period.
Now
the
construction
people
bring
up
a
good
point.
We
really
hadn't
looked
at
the
temporary
construction
period
and
what
the
noise
level
might
be
for
for
that.
But
we'll
give
that
some
thought
as
we
go
forward.
L
J
Cause
I
mean:
if
we
need
to
attract
a
different
type
of
tenant,
then
we
don't
want
we're
gonna,
be
we
don't
be
handcuffed
to
a
certain
decimal
level
if
it
needs
to
be
a
little
a
little
bit
more
or
what
the
process
would
be
if
we
attracted
tenant
that
needed
a
little
bit
more
noise
or
light.
How
would
that?
How
would
that
be
handled?
You
know
we
want
to
kind
of
put
it
in
a
in
a
way
where
we
know
that
the
minimum
is
here
but
give
ourselves
a
little
buffer.
J
If
we
need
to
increase
a
little
bit
in
order
to
attract
the
right
tenant,
we
don't
want
to
say
they
can't
come
because
they're
going
to
be
too
loud
they're
if
they
bring
a
lot
of
jobs,
and
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
in
other
areas.
We
don't
want
a
hang
up
in
this
one
area.
I
think
I
think
it's
great,
that
we
thought
about
it,
but
let's,
let's
kind
of
also
just
make
sure
that
that
we
got
the
right
decimal
level
in
order
to
attract
the
right
people.
I.
A
A
L
Yeah,
well
I
mean
it's
such
a
large
area.
We
have
the
buffers
that
are
included
here.
We
tried
to
consider
all
that
with
the
types
of
uses
that
are
being
proposed
here,
so
I
thought
we
had
gotten
to
a
pretty
good
point
with
the
65
and
55
55
being
at
night,
really
pretty,
that's
pretty
pretty
restrictive.
L
H
Yeah,
just
as
a
reminder,
these
profits
that
we're
reviewing
are
profits
that
we
did
get
from
the
eda,
so
they've
reviewed
these
providing
them
back
to
staff,
and
you
know
that
particular
you
know.
Discussion
hasn't
been
a
point
of
contention
to
date
that
I'm
aware
of,
but
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
them
if
they
do.
If
they
wanted
to
comment
on
that
point
at
some
point,
if
you
guys
want
to
bring
them
up.
L
I
I
don't
know
how
we
factor
in
some
of
the
wiggle
room
that
you're
kind
of
suggesting
that's
that's
difficult,
so
I
I
would
think
we
got
to
fix
some
some
decibels,
levels
that
you
are
comfortable
with
and
we
can
provide
you
more
information
if
you
want
it
on.
You
know
some
of
that,
but
I
don't
know
how
we
could
make
adjustments
for
this
business
or
that
business
coming
forward.
We
just
kind
of
have
to
draw
a
line
in
the
sand
and
kind
of
keep
with
it.
A
H
How
close
that
or
how
far
away
it
needs
to
be
from
the
property
line.
We
included
this
next
proper
here,
the
safe
conduct
and
opera
of
operations
proffer.
You
know
really
to
just
kind
of
try
to
allay
fears
of
the
kind
of
the
big
bad
industrial
use
and
some
of
the
things
that
come
from
those
we
don't
expect
to.
H
K
B
K
H
M
So
I
I
agree
with
commissioner
fry
and
commissioner
sloane.
I
was
going
to
ask
the
same
thing
about
you
know:
how
do
we
enforce
the
excessive?
You
know
how's
that
defined,
and
I
would
also
maybe
for
consideration
splitting
this
up
into
separate
conditions,
because
I
would
think,
if
you're
talking
about.
M
So
I
feel
like
we
have
two
different
standards:
we're
looking
at
what
are
the
standards
of
things
that
will
affect
the
neighboring
properties,
and
that
would
be
you
know
the
vibration
and
the
heat,
but
with
smoke
and
dust
I
would
say
we
might
want
to
be
a
little
bit
more
concerned
about
what
even
happens
on
site,
regardless
of
what
leaves
the
site,
because
you
know,
if
smoke's
going
up
and
not
necessarily
leaving
the
borders
of
the
site.
I
think
we
still
want
to
have
some
conditions
and
some
standards
around
something
like
that.
B
L
Part
of
that
too,
mr
petrovsky
could
be
in
the
restrictive
covenants
that
they
develop.
You
know
within
their
internal
technology
village,
so
hopefully
some
of
those
in
internal
conditions
could
be
handled
through
restrictive
covenants
of
the
on
the
project,
not
necessarily
built
into
the
zoning
case,
but
we'll
look
into
that.
We.
M
I
mean
we
can
talk
about
covenants,
but
I
would
say
for
this
going
through
this
public
process.
I
mean,
I
think
the
intent
is
we're
not
going
to
have
smoke
stacks.
I
mean
this
is
advanced
manufacturing,
that's
not
a
thing,
but
rather
than
relying
on
the
covenants.
I
would
rather
give
the
citizens,
during
this
public
process
reassurances
about
while
operating,
not
necessarily
construction,
but
while
operating
that
the
county
is
saying
you
cannot
do
this
and
not
necessarily
depend
on
the
covenants.
K
L
Those
could
be
resolved
through
the
use
of
the
restrictive
covenants
that
are
handled
by
eda
and
or
whoever
the
management
of
the
of
the
technology
park
is
so
our
perspective
thus
far
has
been
looking
more
at
how
to
protect
the
surrounding
neighborhood
than
it
was
the
future
tenants.
But
we
we
can
look
into
some
of
that.
Also.
C
H
Anymore,
on
that
one
all
right
thanks:
okay,
so
again
continuing
with
the
performance
standards,
loading
bays-
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
that.
We
do
have
a
profit
in
there.
That
speaks
to.
You
know
how
we'd
want
to
have
loading
bays
oriented,
of
course,
not
towards
any
public
roads
within
the
development
or
on
the
periphery
of
the
development
we'd
also,
you
know,
wanted
to
be
screened
or
to
be
oriented
away
from
any
adjoining
residential
development.
H
Although
we
do
have
the
substantial
buffers
in
place,
we
still
don't
want
to
have
that
kind
of
business,
end
of
a
youth
being
located
closest
to
the
residential
development.
So
that's
something
that
was
a
concern
of
ours
as
well.
We've
included
that
into
this
proffer,
of
course,
supplement
of
supplemental
screening
things
like
that,
where
you
know
glimpses
of
it
could
be
seen.
H
And
then
we
have
an
exterior
rooftop
equipment
proffer,
and
this
is,
of
course
just
to
make
the
buildings
that
we
have
on
the
property
a
lot
more
attractive.
Looking,
we
don't
want
to
have
a
lot
of
the
equipment
visible
from
the
adjoining
residential
development
or,
from
you
know,
public
streets
within
the
development,
and
so
those
are
pretty
straightforward.
H
A
A
G
Mr
chair
members
of
commission,
mr
gillies
andy
conlon
here
on
behalf
of
the
eda
jumping
in
the
middle
of
this
case,
to
assist
in
some
of
the
drafting
of
the
proffers.
Certainly
we
did
have
to
clarify
a
number
of
points.
We've
taken
a
lot
of
information
that
you
provided,
obviously
we're
trying
to
make
the
profits
enforceable
and
quantitatively
compliant
with
what
the
county
attorney
would
take
a
look
at,
but
we
also
have
the
political
side,
as
we've
talked
about
having
given
some
assurances,
otherwise
to
make
it
crystal
clear,
maybe
in
layman's
language.
G
So
that's
some
of
the
things
we're
going
to
go
back
and
and
tweak
these
proffers
a
little
bit
to
make
sure
that's
able
to
do
that.
We're
also
trying
to
create
what
I
would
consider
the
the
parameters
in
which
the
users
are
allowed
to
operate
and
raised
a
good
point
about
the
construction.
We're
gonna
go
back
there
and
try
to
differentiate
some
of
those
components
that
we've
that
you've
raised
as
well.
So
we
understand
the
conversation
I
think
we're
real
close
and
trying
to
put
together
some
of
the
responses.
G
We
want
to
be
able
to
talk
about
those
but,
for
example,
the
buffers
and
the
landscaping
within
them
trying
to
come
up
with
the
parameters
and
the
design
standards
for
those
buffers
and
what
those
will
be
and
supplementing
those.
I
identified
that
before
the
hearing
after
we
submitted
the
profits
before
the
hearing
today
about
some
of
the
landscaping,
a
b
and
c
that
we
often
do
as
opposed
to
what
we
have
there.
G
So
we
went
through
a
lot
of
changes
and
now
I
think
we're
really
massaging
some
of
these
to
make
these
a
little
bit
more
effective.
As
to
what
you
pointed
out,
we've
been
here
listening
taking
notes
and
we're
prepared
to
do
that
when
we
we
get
back
we'll
get
back
to
you
on
those
so
happy
to
answer
any
questions
at
this
time.
G
The
master
design
plan
itself
would,
I
don't
believe,
that's
what
the
code
requires.
Specifically
that's
where
we
took
some
of
the
language
with
respect
to
that.
We've
talked
to
the
staff
about
what
that
would
require,
but
I'd
have
to
talk
to
my
client
about
that.
That's
pretty
unusual.
The
whole
idea
of
being,
I
guess,
for
a
public
hearing
from
a
standpoint
of
a
master
design
plan.
Is
that
what
you're
asking
at
this
point
or
suggesting
that
maybe
is
a
possibility.
G
Yeah
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
check
the
ultimately.
You
know
when
any
user
comes
for
us
to
put
together
a
master
design
plan
that
would
be
before
any
certificate
of
occupancy.
The
question
would
be
which
I'd
have
to
dive
into
is:
could
we
have
just
one
versus
having
to
come
back
forward
for
every
site
plan,
which
is
not
what
we'd
want
to
do,
but
put
together
a
master
design
plan
overall?
Typically,
that's
done
administratively,
but
again,
I'd
have
to
come
back
and
talk
to
my
client
about
that.
G
K
G
L
B
B
J
Know
I
I
just
want
to
just
make
sure
citizens
and
citizens
and
staff,
and
everybody
kind
of
understand,
my
perspective
about
it.
I
think
it's
a
great
case.
I
think
that
some
of
the
debate
that
we're
having
is
going
to
create
better
better
conditions
for
the
case
right,
and
so
this
is
just
a
dialogue
that
we're
having
during
the
work
session,
and
I
think
that
staff
has
done
an
amazing
job
putting
this
together.
You
know
you
guys
are
working
with
every
department.
I
think
you
guys
are
doing
the
right
thing.
J
You
know,
so
I
don't
want
to
seem
like
or
have
the
appearance
that
me
personally,
that
I'm
badgering
anybody
or
doing
anything
like
that.
I
think
that
you
guys
are
doing
a
phenomenal
job
and
let's
just
continue
to
work
forward
on
this
case
and
the
conditions,
and
let's
make
it
the
best
case
that
it
can
be
so
we
can
definitely
benefit
the
county
and
grow
the
county
where
it
needs
to
be
grown,
have
jobs
and
other
opportunities
here
for
people.
H
So
we're
actually
we're
actually
going
to
do
the
same
thing
we
just
did
for
magnolia
west
we're
going
to
have
to
go
through
starting
with
transportation,
followed
by
utilities
and
environmental
engineering
and
then
I'll
I'll
finish
up
on
the
planning
portion.
We're
just
going
to
do
a
review
of
the
proffers
and
the
conceptual
plan
we
have
for
upper
magnolia,
east
and
we'll
wrap
up
after
that.
So
I
guess
I'd
invite
brendapps
up
to
the
podium.
L
And
why
brent
coming
up?
I
would
just
make
the
comment
that
we
have
the
four
o'clock
site
plan
review
session,
but
it's
a
very
short
site
plan
review.
So
we'll
have
time
between
you
know,
4
15-ish,
to
5
to
to
finish
up,
and
the
other
items
on
the
work
program
are
not
necessary
for
this.
So
this
this
has
our
highest
priority
to
get
through
all
the
upper
magnolia
green
stuff
tonight
today,
if
at
all
possible.
I
I
An
off-site
improvement,
inclusive
of
four
lanes
for
duvall
road
from
the
intersection
at
otterdale
road
to
the
north-south
collector,
including
improvements
to
both
intersections
as
appropriate
and,
finally,
an
off-site
improvement,
constituting
construction
of
four
lanes
for
otterdale
road
from
duvall
road
to
wallridge,
road,
section,
they're
shown
between
intersections
seven
and
eight
and
then
construction
of
additional
pavement
at
the
north,
south
collector
road
and
duvall
road
intersection
to
provide
left
and
right
turn
lanes.
I
mentioned
that
earlier.
I
And
finally,
widening
and
improving
the
north
side
of
otterdale
road
to
12-foot
lanes.
I'm
sorry
improving
the
north
side
of
duvall
road
to
12-foot
lanes
measure
from
the
center
line
of
existing
pavement,
effectively
improving
the
property
frontage
along
duval
construction.
I'll
go
back
to
the
map
here.
I
There
at
15,
between
15
and
the
and
the
western
property
line
that
that
portion
is
not
highlighted
for
some
reason.
I
apologize
for
that
and
finally,
construction
of
two
lanes
of
magnolia
green
parkway,
including
pedestrian
accommodations
from
its
existing
terminus
to
the
pow
height
parkway
and
again,
that's
for
some
reason
is
not
highlighted.
I
Finally,
the
phasing
condition
again
prior
to
any
subdivision
or
site
plan
approval,
a
phasing
plan
for
the
improvements
will
be
submitted
to
and
approved
by
us,
and
then
those
improvements
as
listed
in
the
proffer
would
be
made
in
accordance
with
that
approved
phasing
plan,
and
the
details
of
the
phasing
plan
would
include
initially
with
development
of
the
middle
school.
The
following
improvements
would
be
completed:
reconstruction
of
the
otterdale
road
and
duvall
road
intersection
to
include
realignment
turn
lanes
and
intersection
control,
as
warranted
improvements
to
otterdale
road
and
westerly
parkway
intersection.
A
I
So
a
continuous
green
tea
is
a
an
intersection
treatment
whereby
this
the
side
street
is
signalized
and
when
you
are
turning
from
the
side
street
onto
the
main
street,
you
have
a
receiving
lane
that
allows
you
to
accelerate
into
the
primary
street.
But
one
lane
on
the
primary
street
is
unaffected
by
the
signal.
K
A
N
If
I
may,
mr
chairman,
I'd
like
to
follow
up
with
mr
sloane's
question,
he
had
several
questions
on
the
last
case
and
I
didn't
have
all
the
details
because
they
were
dated
back
to
like
2010
when
we
abandoned
those
tributary
monitoring
stations,
sir,
and
we
have
eight
in-lake
monitoring
stations
now
near
where
those
tributaries
dump
into
the
swift
creek
reservoir.
So
I
wanted
to
follow
up
with
you
on
that.
So
thank
you
for
that
opportunity
for
the
east
utilities
added
one
proffer
into
the
existing
case.
N
I
believe
it
was
in
the
comp
plan
work
session
that
we
held
when
mr
sloan
asked
me
about
the
conservation
measures,
and
I
reminded
him
that
utilities
was
in
the
public
safety
and
health
business
and
that
every
drop
of
water
that
goes
on
the
ground
is
one
less.
We
have
for
human
consumption
and
economic
development,
and
he
did
exactly
that
when
I
said
that
statement,
he
shook
his
head
in
agreement.
N
B
B
N
If
I
may
add
a
suggestion,
mr
chairman,
to
mr
sloan's
comment
that
would
be
in
one
of
the
cases
I
worked
with
mrs
fry.
They
had
a
pond
on
the
on
the
property
and
we
suggested-
and
mr
collins
was
actually
involved
in
that
that
they
used
that
as
an
alternative
source
for
irrigation.
So
not
only
is
well
water
available.
There
may
be
a
pond
available,
as
well
kind
of
like
golf
courses.
Do
that'd
be
great.
Yes,.
A
N
K
O
H
Thank
you
again.
What
this
project
is?
It's
upper
magnolia
east
700
acres
going
from
r9
and
agricultural
to
r15,
so
it's
a
residential
zoning
district.
We
are
allowing
for
multiple
public
facilities
to
be
developed
on
the
property
schools,
a
middle
school,
in
particular,
a
potential
for
an
elementary
school
and
a
library
to
be
incorporated
into
the
overall
upper
magnolia
green
project
area,
and
we
have
a
maximum
of
600
residential
single-family
detached
residential
units
that
we
have
in
the
proffers.
H
The
school
complex
property
is
it's
a
little
bit
smaller
than
what
we
had
before.
We
have
150
acres
that
we've
shown
that
we've
actually
put
into
the
proffers
so
that
we
could
accommodate
for
the
schools
and
public
uses
I
just
described
that
leaves
550
acres
for
residential
development.
That's
that
puts
us
at
a
density
of
roughly
1.09
dwelling
units
per
acre
so
that
that's
comparable
to
what
you
have
it's
actually
a
little
less
dense
than
what
you
have
in
nearby
westerly
and
summer
lakes.
H
H
We
did
have
this
initial
conceptual
plan
that
we
shared
with
the
with
the
planning
commission
at
the
last
community
meeting.
Excuse
me
at
the
last
work
session,
we've
shared
community
meetings
as
well.
We
have
we
tried
to
introduce
this,
this
concept
of
having
trails,
a
network
of
trails,
in
particular
throughout
the
this
portion
of
the
of
the
development
we've
we've.
We
identified
some
we're
calling
basically
neighborhoods
within
the
overall
development,
which
would
be
that
those
r15
areas
that
are
separated
by
some
environmental
areas.
H
H
The
planning
commission
commented
on
upper
magnolia
east
regarding
the
detail,
the
conceptual
plan,
so
we
of
course
took
that
to
heart,
as
we
did
with
upper
magnolia
west
and
we've
now
delineated
rpas,
we've
shown
trails,
a
better
network
of
trails
and
how
we're
going
to
actually
connect
to
points
northward.
So
we
can
ultimately
have
that
connection
that
we
want
to
have
to
horner
park,
although
it
is
an
off-site
connection,
roads
as
well
as
I
mentioned
they
have
been
included
in
in
the
in
the
conceptual
plan.
H
This
is
a
zoom
in
on
that
just
to
point
out
the
trails
here
we,
the
bikeways
and
trails
plan,
that
we
I
think
we
actually
showed
that
at
the
first,
the
first
work
session
work
session,
the
goal
of
making
a
connection
from
points
southward
at
lower
magnolia
to
to
horner
park.
This
is
a
key
segment
to
make
sure
that
we
do
have
a
trail
connection,
that
courses
through
this
property
and
allows
for
you
know
that
network
network
that
we
envision.
H
We
have
a
couple
spots
here
and
I'll
just
point
these
out
using
this,
hopefully
it'll
work
for
me
this
time
we
have
the
trail
that
connects
the
different
neighborhoods.
We
have
this
point
here
that
goes
into
upper
magnolia
west
along
horse
pen,
creek,
and
then
we
have
along
along
the
north-south
road.
We
have
a
trail
connection.
We
have
a
connection
going
into
the
the
the
it's
not
showing
up.
Oh
it
is
it's
just
it's
not
very
wide
here.
H
Let
me
choose
a
different
color.
This
isn't
working
out
for
me,
okay,
this!
This
is
the
connection
here
that
would
go
along
horse
pen,
creek
and
then
get
to
points
northward.
I
would
connect
with
into
the
trail
network
that
we
showed
in
the
previous
conceptual
plane
for
upper
magnolia
west
and
then
the
likely
connection
to
would.
H
Of
course,
we
want
to
have
connections
into
these
neighborhoods
that
we
have
on
the
north
and
south
side
of
horseband
creek,
but
then,
as
we
head,
northward
of
course,
connections
into
the
the
public
use
site
with
the
elementary
school,
the
middle
school
and
library
very
important.
But
then
this
connection
here
to
the
pedestrian
facility
that
we'd
have
along
west
westerly
parkway
and
then
connect
westward
to
roughly
about
here,
we'd
shown
previously
and
then
upward,
where
the
trail
was
into
horner
park
eventually.
H
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
connection
and
we've
we
have
made
sure
that
connection
is
something
we
will
have
in
the
project
as
we
go
forward.
There
is
a
northern
connection
that
we
do
have
in
the
trails
map
here,
but
not
knowing
exactly
how
what
the
grade
of
polaroid
parking
will
be.
Pohai
parkway
will
be
at
that
particular
location.
The
more
likely
connection
would
be
that
westerly
parkway
pedestrian
facility,
okay,
moving
on,
thank
you
yeah.
So
these
are
the
properties
that
basically
just
spell
out
what
I
was
just
describing.
H
This
is
a
community,
that's
r15!
There
are
a
fair
amount
of
areas
that
will
be
undevelopable
based
on
the
rpa
that
courses
through
the
property.
So
we
do
envision
a
fair
amount
of
undeveloped
portions
of
that
550
acres
that
we
have,
but
we
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
you
know,
common
area
amenity
that
would
be
included
in
the
project,
and
we
spelled
that
out.
H
H
So
I'm
not,
I
didn't
include
it
in
the
slide,
but
it
does
address
all
those
things
that
I've
listed
there
next
again,
the
master
design
plan.
Similarly
to
what
we
were
trying
to
accomplish
with
the
upper
magnolia
west
side,
we
want
to
do
something
comparable,
but
for
a
residential
community
on
the
east
side
and
that
we
want
to
make
sure
we
are
developing
a
cohesive,
well-coordinated
community
that
has
so
we've
added
the
requirement
for
this
master
design
plan
to
be
developed.
H
H
We
thought
this
was
also
a
good
opportunity
to
address
a
comment
that
we
got
earlier
on
in
the
process
to
involve
the
westerly
and
summerlike
communities
in
the
development
of
the
master
design
plan.
So
we've
put
forward
some
some
language.
The
eda
came
back
to
us
with
this
as
a
as
a
possibility,
and
it
is
an
opportunity
to
bring
in
those
folks
and
into
the
development
of
the
project.
H
So
I
had
previously
shown
a
slide
that
looked
like
this,
but
it
had
a
lot
more
going
on
on
it.
This
just
shows,
of
course,
now
we
don't
have
the
high
school
site
on
the
upper
magnolia
east
development,
but
this
is
again
a
preliminary
plan.
Just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
how
the
middle
school
could
be
laid
out.
Shifting
into
the
area
with
the
high
school
was
located.
It's
a,
I
would
say,
a
much
more
environmentally
sensitive
plan.
H
C
H
H
Yep,
so
in
closing,
the
last
slide
is
just
kind
of
what
to
do
from
here.
So
we've
we're
here
seeking
further
guidance
from
the
planning
commission
we've
held.
This
is
now
the
third
work
session
and
we've
had
various
community
meetings
so
not
to
mention.
We
have
one
plan
for
march
10th,
we've
been
tracking
for
some
time
now,
a
march
planning
commission
public
hearing,
but,
as
I
mentioned
I'll-
defer,
of
course
to
the
planning
commission's
guidance
and
what
you'd
like
to
do
with
scheduling
public
hearing.
A
All
right
so
call
to
order
the
four
o'clock
agenda.
This
is
a
time
where
we
look
at
subdivision
cases,
cases
with
site
planning
and
whatnot
in
them.
Mr
gillies,
I
think
you
have
something
you
would
do.
We
have
any
changes
and
need
made
to
this
agenda.
First
of
all
by
any
commissioners,
no
changes
all
right,
mr
gillies.
L
Yeah,
the
the
meeting
procedures
are
pretty
common
and
similar
to
what
we
go
through
at
the
six
o'clock,
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
read
them
them.
The
planning
commission
makes
the
final
decision
on
approvals
for
certain
site
plans,
schematic
plans,
tentative
subdivision
plans,
development,
standard
modifications
and
appeals
of
the
director's
decision.
L
If
the
commission
approves
or
denies
the
request,
there
is
no
further
public
hearing.
Following
to
this
afternoon's
meeting,
you
may
obtain
information
on
any
case
that
was
deferred
by
calling
751
4610
and
entering
the
last
three
digits
of
the
case
number.
You
may
obtain
information
on
any
case
for
which
there
was
a
final
action
by
calling
the
planning
department
at
748-1050.
A
E
E
E
Oh
you're,
on
the
you're
on
the
presentation
for
the
beginning.
I'll
just
finish
this
to
say:
you've
deferred
this
now
three
times.
This
is
a
fourth
request
for
a
deferral
simply
to
get
continue.
Trying
to
address
the
concerns
of
the
neighborhood.
Mr
jack.
Wilson
is
here
for
the
applicant
dave
cloak.
If
he,
if
you
would
like
for
him
to
speak
to
any
matter,.
A
P
A
All
right
with
that
being
said,
this
is
a
public
hearing,
so
I'm
opening
the
public
hearing
for
case
number
zero.
Eight,
two
s
zero
one.
Two
two
in
the
metoic
district,
rref2tfc
wynwood
llc-
is
there
anyone
present
who
would
like
to
speak
either
in
support
or
opposition
of
the
re
of
this
request
for
deferral?
A
Seeing
no
one
do
we
have
any
public
comments
have
been
received
for
this
deferral.
I
will
close
the
public
hearing.
This
case
is
in
the
watoka
district.
I
will
make
a
motion
to
defer
case
number:
zero,
eight
ts0122
rref
to
tfc
wynwood
llc
until
until
our
may
17th
2022
planning
commission
meeting.
Actually
I'm
going
to
rephrase
my
deferral,
I
will
defer
this
case
to
our
regularly
scheduled.
May
2022
planning
commission
meeting.
C
D
A
E
You,
sir,
this
case
in
the
middle
of
the
magisterial
district,
is
for
a
sign
for
infinity,
auto
sales.
It
actually
is
an
existing
sign
that
is
being
moved
from
one
site
to
this
site,
but
this
particular
site,
if
you'll,
show
the
the
location
which
is
the
former
highmountain
brothers
automotives
on
a
bill
sales
site,
they
want
to
move
the
infinity
sign
here,
and
the
zoning
case
on
this
site
requires
planning
commission
approval
if
it's
larger
than
was
required
by
the
ordinance
back
in
the
1980s.
E
We
double
checked
with
our
county
attorney
and
they
verified
that
the
ruling
from
the
19
from
that
ordinance
would
still
apply,
and
so
it's
coming
before
you,
because
this
sign
is
going
to
be
taller
than
what
that
ordinance
would
allow,
which
was
only
13
feet.
The
square
footage
of
it
is
smaller.
It's
only.
E
However,
all
the
other
signs
for
the
auto
dealers
are
larger
than
this
sign
on
the
properties
around
it,
and
so
staff
is
supporting
this
request
as
being
acceptable
because
it
is
similar
or
less
obtrusive
than
the
signs
on
the
adjoining
sites.
I
wish
I
had
the
pictures
here,
but
for
some
reason,
what
we
have
in
the
system
is
just
these
two
slides,
but
it
is.
This
is
considered
a
consent
case
by
staff.
We
have
not
had
any
comments
from
citizens
and
we
just
request
your
consideration
for
this.
Thank
you,
mr.
A
Q
My
name
is
joe
howell,
I'm
with
capital
science,
my
wife,
jerry
howell,
has
been
taking
care
of
this
and
she's
not
able
to
be
here
today,
so
I'm
taking
over.
So
I
apologize.
If
I
don't
have
all
your
answers.
As
mr
allen
said,
we
haven't
got
any
opposition
from
anyone
with
this.
We
have
gone
to
all
the
other
dealerships.
Q
Q
They
were
under
the
impression
that
they
could
just
pick
it
up
and
move
it
and
be
done
with
it,
and
then,
when
we
started
the
permitting
process,
we
found
out
that
I
believe
it
was
15
feet.
He
was
mentioning
13
feet,
but
it
was
an
overall
height
that
this
one
exceeds
by
several
feet
in
the
subsequent
research
we
did
with
them.
We
found
out
that
there
was
a
possibility
upon
zoning
approval
to
get
this
permitted.
So
that's
where
we
are
right
now.
Okay,
thank.
A
A
C
A
D
A
L
G
A
C
G
Well,
I've
been
given
instructions,
since
I
have
two
hours
before
the
next
public
hearing
that
I've
got
plenty
of
time
to
get
all
the
changes
done
and
then
get
them
to
get
into
economic
development.
Take
a
look
we're
expecting
to
have
it
in
the
next
couple
days,
get
them
back
to
the
planning.
Let
them
take
a
look,
so
I'm
hoping
by
the
end
of
the
week
we'll
have
something
for
you
all.
So
that's
probably
garrett
calling
now
tell
me
what
happened.
I'm
done!
A
A
B
B
B
They
are
two
distinct
cases,
though
I
mean
it's
not
one
case,
it's
two
distinct
cases
and
I
think
you
know
to
to
be
able
to
you
know
for
citizens
to
be
able
to
come
in
and
hear
the
you
know,
concise
presentation
on
one
case
offer
public
comments
on
it
and
so
forth.
We
know
we
need
some
enhanced
proffers.
B
B
B
A
So
let's
tell
let's
go
ahead
and
does
anybody
else
have
any
comments
on
this?
Why
don't
we
set
the
public
hearing
on
the
east
case
for
the
march
15th
planning
commission
meeting
and
we
will
decide
how
things
are
going
on
the
west
case
about
setting
it
for
april?
I
don't
want
to
set
it
for
april
right
now
and
something
happened
to
significantly
change
it
that
they
have
to
do
some
rework
on
it.
A
A
A
Okay,
so
everybody's
comfortable
with
march
15th.
I
know
it's
my
choice,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
there
was
no
objection
for
the
east.
Okay,
all
right.
Do
we
have
any
other
business
to
bring
well.
Actually,
I
guess
we
need
to
go
back
because,
oh
sorry,
so
do
I
have
a.
I
have
a
motion
to
set
a
public
hearing
for
case
number
21sn0675
known
as
upper
magnolia
green
east
to
be
from
march
15
2022..
K
L
I
just
as
in
reference
to
the
west
are,
are
we
going
to
take
any
action
tonight
on
the
west?
Is
that
the
consensus
of
you
all
to
wait
and
see
on
that?
If
so,
do
you
want
another
community?
I
mean
another
work
session
on
the
west
on
march
15th.
We
we
need
a
little
bit
of,
I
guess,
ideas
to
what
you'd
like
to
see
between
now
and
potential
setting
of
a.
I
think.
K
A
Need
a
motion
to
put
that,
since
it's
a
work
session
put
on
the
work
session:
okay,
all
right:
okay,
okay,
mr
gillies,
we
have
two
things
left
from
the
earlier
agenda.
You
have
an
overview
of
the
planning
department
and
the
work
program,
which
order?
Would
you
like
to
do
those
in?
Are
you
ready
to
do
your
overview
of
the
planning
department?
A
L
As
pointed
out
in
the
planning
commission's
annual
report,
we
received
about
384
official
zoning
opinions
in
2021
and,
as
you
all
know,
that's
the
larger
universe
of
of
of
requests
that
we
get
and
then
through
staff
review
and
comment
back
to
the
applicant
those
turn
into
pre-apps
and
then
from
the
pre-apps.
They
turn
into
actual
applications.
So
from
the
384
official
zoning
opinions,
121
turned
into
applications
in
2021.
L
That
is
a
pretty
normal
ratio
for
us
about
a
third
to
a
to
a
quarter
of
the
actual
zoning
opinions
turn
into
actual
cases,
the
others
kind
of
wash
out
over
the
after
going
through
either
a
review
by
staff
or
through
the
pre-application
process.
So
I
think
we're
that
trend
is,
is
continuing
to
be
pretty
consistent
through
2021..
L
In
addition
to
that,
just
you
know
the
other
parts
of
the
office
that
some
of
you
don't
see
that
often
in
our
subdivision
planning
process,
we
had
145
applications
come
in
for
2021
and
we
had
77
inquiry
meetings
and
then
100
applications
come
in
in
reference
to
site
plans
and
the
bza
cases.
We
had
23
bza
cases
during
2021
and
we
had
12
administrative
approvals
that
were
in
that
same
vein,.
L
L
We
had
71
cases
2000
I
mean
2020.
We
had
the
71
cases
and
then
2021.
We
went
to
the
85,
that's
about
a
20
increase
between
20
and
21
in
in
the
zoning
cases.
These
are
cases
on
this
particular
chart
that
went
to
the
board
of
supervisors
for
approval
during
that
2021
period.
So
and
with
that
those
85
cases
they
basically
broke
down
into
25
of
them
being
residential
related
about
27
were
commercial
14
were
mixed
use.
Related
3
were
industrial.
L
We
had
really
a
fairly
substantial
percentage
of
second
dwellings
last
year,
the
12
percent.
Hopefully
we're
fixing
some
of
that
with
the
zomod
and
some
of
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
issue,
and
we
had
a
five
percent
signage
so,
except
for
the
second
dwelling
that
was
a
pretty
normal
kind
of
year
as
the
mix,
maybe
a
little
more
commercial
than
in
previous
years,
probably
had
a
higher
percentage
of
residential.
In
the
past
of
those
cases.
L
L
That
is
a
large
increase
in
the
multi-family.
But
later
in
the
presentation,
I'll
give
you
still
that
we
still
have
a
very
low
percentage
of
multi-family
overall
for
the
for
chesterfield
county.
It's
you
know
a
much
less
number
that
and
we
have
room
for
additional
multi-family
still
well,
you
know,
as
you
all
know,
for
over
a
decade,
we've
had
pretty
much
a
lull
and
multi-family
development
and
we
need
to
kind
of
catch
up
so
to
speak.
L
I
thought
that
was
a
pretty
high
percentage
and
was
happy
to
see
us
taking
doing
more
of
the
projects
that
were
kind
of
already
within
the
infrastructure
network
that
we
had
and
not
contributing
to
kind
of
urban
sprawl.
On
the
outside
aspects
of
of
the
county,
and
we
had
43
cases
where
cupd's
we
were
always
kind
of
tracking
how
many
of
those
were
you
know,
fall
within
the
that
custom
customized
zoning
classification.
L
Overall,
the
idea
that
we
had
the
breakdown
of
the
various
zoning
cases
that
we
had
for
2021.
we
had
24
of
them
in
bermuda
and
17
of
them
in
in
clover,
hill,
nine
in
dale
and
15
in
metoica
and
20
in
midlothian.
Now
that's
this
doesn't
take
into
account
the
size
of
those
cases,
but
it
does
the
overall
number
of
cases
that
we
had
for
the
year
in
the
various
zoning
magisterial
districts.
It's
a
pretty
good
kind
of
cross-section
and
mix
of
cases
throughout
the
county.
L
I
thought
kind
of
moving
on
from
zoning
to
plans
review.
We
also
had
a
pretty
busy
year
with
preliminary
plats
and
construction
plans
and
final
plats
and
site
plans.
Final
plants
and
plenary
plants
were
pretty
stan.
I
guess
level
for
where
we
see
the
they
have
for
the
previous
years,
probably
a
little
more
of
the
final
pets
than
maybe
we've
seen
in
the
last
two
or
three
years.
L
Preliminary
plants
were
maybe
a
bit
low
for
where
we
were
on
previous
years
construction
plans,
I
think
we're
pretty
set
at
the
same
level
as
we've
seen
for
19
and
20.
of
those
site
plans.
We
reviewed
there
were
730
dwelling
units
that
were
created
in
five
different
projects
with
that
of
multi-family
and
the
commercial
pieces
involved
about
a
little
over
2.1
million
square
feet
of
of
office
or
commercial
space
being
created.
L
Kind
of
moving
from
those
plans,
development
and
review
to
the
next
level
of
development.
With
the
building
permits,
we
saw
right
at
10
609,
building
permits
for
the
calendar
year
in
2021,
which
is
a
pretty
big
number
and
that
constituted
about
1.1
billion
dollars
in
in
improv
value
within
the
county.
L
That's
about
15
percent
of
the
overall
number
of
building
permits
were
were
town
homes,
25
2507,
doing
units
of
multi-family
spot
24,
and
then
a
commercial
was
coming
out
at
about.
Eight
percent
of
the
overall
building
permits
were
commercial,
so
we're
still
pretty
heavily
concentrated
on
residential
development
and
the
single
family
detached
still
being
kind
of
the
main
type
of
permit
that
we're
seeing
here
in
chesterfield,
but
that
may
be
changing
a
little
bit
taking
that
from
the
building
permit
to
construction
activity
and
the
final
kind
of
certificate
of
occupancy.
L
L
And
I
I
should
mention
that,
with
all
the
building
permits
the
planning
department,
the
plans
review
group
is
reviewing
those
building
permits.
So
we're
touching,
you
know
the
ten
thousand
building
permits
that
were
coming
out.
We're
touching
that
three
3144
ceos
to
make
sure
they're
in
full
compliance
with
zoning
as
as
they're
being
completed.
L
L
Moving
on
to
the
current
housing
breakdown,
as
I
mentioned
to
you
all
earlier,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had,
you
know,
show
you
that
the
overall
breakdown
and
inventory
of
of
housing
that
we
have
within
chesterfield
so
of
the
141
000
dwelling
units
we
have
in
chesterfield
county
78
percent-
are
still
single-family
detached
units.
So
that's
you
know
a
high
percentage
100,
that's
about
110
000
units
in
in
chesterfield.
L
L
The
condos
will
also
kind
of
be
growing
in
in
that
particular
mix
of
of
housing
inventory,
but
I
think
it
does
show
that
we've
got
a
pretty
good
balance
of
residential
inventory
here
in
the
in
chesterfield
county
and
trying
to
keep
up
with
some
of
the
affordability
issues
that
are
facing
everybody
in
in
our
country.
Right
now,
kind
of
turning
to
community
meetings
in
2019
we
had
56
community
meetings
and
then
a
lot
of.
L
L
So
addition
to
all
those
plans,
development
and
review,
we
continue
to
do
our
other
special
projects
and
and
plans
during
2021
we
were,
we
completed
the
rockwood
special
focus
area
back
in
april
in
progress.
We
still
have
the
comp
plan
modernization.
We
have
that
before
you
tonight,
for
completion,
hopefully
or
at
least
moving
on
with
a
recommendation
to
the
to
the
board
the
genito
route.
288
special
focus
area
is
in
progress
and
we
hope
to
bring
that
back
to
you
all
the
midpoint
of
2022.
L
we're
starting
continue
to
do
some
work
on
the
public
facilities
plan
update,
hopefully
sometime
this
summer,
we'll
get
more
involved
in
that
and
bring
you
back
some
sort
of
probably
work
session
on
on
that
particular
project.
In
addition,
we've
got
the
housing
diversity
strategy,
that's
in
progress
and
working
on
that
and
the
midlothian
implementation
committee.
We've
got
certain
elements
of
that
that
we're
still
working
towards
developing
in
the
f
in
the
rest
of
2022
ordinances,
we've
completed
the
route.
One
residential
overlay.
L
L
We
also
had
the
this
small
adjustment
with
the
chicken
sized.
The
chicken
run
areas
in
in
october
to
the
ordinance
still
in
progress
was
working
with
the
roseland
property
owners
with
the
rosen
overlay
hope
to
bring
something
back
to
you
all
for
at
least
a
work
session,
and
later
this
spring
early
summer
and
the
common
area
discussion
that
we've
been
having
on
with
some
of
the
the
builders
and
developers
within
the
community,
we've
kind
of
gone
back
with
to
them.
L
L
And
last,
but
last
but
not
least,
I'd
like
to
at
least
recognize
just
the
total
volume
of
customer
service
we
do
provide
at
the
planning
department.
We
do
get
a
lot
of
phone
calls.
11
188
was
probably
an
underestimate
of
the
all
the
calls
that
we
get,
but
that's
the
ones
at
least
we
counted,
and
we,
I
think
the
staff
does
a
great
job
in
trying
to
make
sure
people
get
their
questions
answered
by
either
the
customer
assistance
team
or
by
a
particular
plans
reviewer
or
zoning
caseworker.
L
But
that
is
a
full-time
job
just
trying
to
get
the
right
person
to
answer
those.
Those
calls
that
come
in
in
addition
to
those
number
of
phone
calls
that
we
get,
we
get
written
determinations,
which
we
have
to
put
quite
a
bit
of
time
into
researching
and
seeing
what
the
zoning
requirements
are
for
those
particular
properties.
L
Before
we
can
write
the
the
letter
that
they've
requested
to
confirm
their
eligibility
for
that
particular
piece
of
property,
for
land
use
development
or
for
financial
purposes,
and
then
we
also
have
about
45
data
requests
on
a
in
the
last
year.
I
would
say
that's
also
probably
an
underestimation
from
some
of
the
informal
data
that
we
collect
and
just
give
out
without
really
putting
it
into
the
official
spreadsheet
and
walk-in
customers.
L
I
thought
was
a
remarkable
number
for
you
know
this
whole
year
of
covid
of
2619
people
coming
into
the
community
development
office
to
our
counter
9
and
having,
for
the
most
part
and
having
our
our
team.
There
work
with
the
applicants
to
to
fill
out
their
applications
or
just
answer
general
questions
that
they
might
have
about
zoning
or
or
even
placement
of
buildings
or
whatever
questions
they
may
have
regarding
development
in
in
chesterfield.
So
with
that,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have.
L
K
L
B
Yeah,
I
I'd
really
appreciate
a
copy
of
it.
Just
you
know
to
you
and
the
whole
staff,
I
mean
it's
it.
We
the
amount
of
work
that
that
that
your
team
across
the
board
has
been
able
to
accomplish
in
incredibly
trying
times
is
really
commendable
and-
and
I
certainly
appreciate
all
the
hard
work
and
and
you
fit
in
and
in
there
you
don't
even
mention
that
kind
of
the
reorganization
of
the
staff
and
new
processes
and
implementation,
new
procedures
and
everything.
So
you
know
hopefully
the
whole.
K
R
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Mr
vice
chair,
mr
gillies,
well,
andy
wrote
ran
through
a
lot
of
the
work
program,
things
that
are
already
going
on
so
I'll
just
touch
on
them
really
briefly,
of
course,
again
the
major
project
for
our
department
continues
to
be
zomod,
and
I
know
you
all
are
anxiously
awaiting
the
results
of
that.
Just
as
much
as
we
are.
R
So
we
continue
to
work
with
our
consultant
team
on
developing
the
pieces
and
parts
of
that
we
should
be
moving
into
module
two
very
soon
we're
kind
of
still
smoothing
out
the
edges
on
some
of
the
potential
zoning
districts
at
this
time.
So
we're
continuing
to
work
very
closely
on
that.
But,
as
andy
mentioned,
there's
a
couple
other
code
amendments
that
we're
working
on
that
will
bring
forward
soon
common
area
and
the
limited
duration
signs.
R
R
The
the
third
fair
plan
amendments
at
the
board,
that
was
the
henricus
access
part
genito,
288
special
focus
area
again
we're
working
on
that
hope
to
have
some
direction
on
that
soon
and
get
a
draft
moving
to
ms
fry,
mr
winslow.
To
take
back
out
to
the
community.
Andy
mentioned
the
roseland
zoning
overlay
housing
diversity
strategy.
R
So
we're
looking
forward
to
that
discussion
and
then
public
facilities
plan
if
you're,
if
you
remember
way
back
natalie
spillman
came
to
you
all
and
presented
a
high-level
overview
of
the
strata
system,
which
is
the
county's
new
kind
of
data
repository
that
we're
all
very
excited
about.
The
results
of
of
that
system
have
been
used
to.
I
guess:
guide
the
county,
cip
and
the
board's
gonna
be
having
a
presentation
on
the
results
of
that
modeling
this
month.
A
L
L
Amanda
adams
into
the
kind
of
planning
tech
position
with
the
zoning
team
and
linda,
has
graciously
taken
amanda's
position
and
will
be
helping.
Poet
and
our
administrative
group
handles
a
lot
of
our
clerical
issues
and
and
help
with
minutes
and
everything.
So
I
just
want
to.
She
was
sitting
in
patiently
listening
to
all
the
discussion
today
and
I
just
wanted
to
at
least
introduce
you
all
to
her.
As
you
ever
come
into
the
office,
you'll
see
a
new
face.