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B
C
A
Thank
you.
Our
next
order
of
business
is
public
comment.
I
would
like
to
remind
all
speakers
of
the
rules.
The
council
state
that
comments
are
limited
to
matters
of
concern.
Official
action
or
deliberation
which
are,
or
maybe
before,
city,
council
and
profanity
will
not
be
permitted
after
you
recall
you,
please
state
your
name
and
neighborhood
for
the
record.
You'll
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak.
Our
first
registered
speaker
is
dr
ronald
lynn.
E
E
The
concerns
of
council
include
local
security,
ls
and
national
security
ns
for
reference,
the
united
states,
constitutional
state,
1789
uscs
and
the
united
states
national
security
state
1947
usns,
the
uscs
usnss
fusion
emerged
under
president
dwight
david
eisenhower,
dde
continuing
from
yesterday
30
august
22.
E
As
a
usns
defense
position,
number
seven
1958
to
september
rdde
signs
the
national
defense
education
act,
that's
where
we
get
the
national
student
loan
program,
number
eight
1956
11
september,
rdde
inaugurates
his
people-to-people
program,
that's
where
we
get
sister
cities
international
and
therefore
for
pittsburgh.
E
Wuhan
on
china,
us
csde
at
work,
but
the
us
us
and
ssde
was
also
simultaneously
at
work.
Dde,
encouraging
the
cia,
nsa
and
fbi
surveillance
programs,
dde
encouraged
the
extension
of
existing
bio
weapons,
chemical
weapons
and
nuclear
weapons
programs
very
substantially
between
1953
and
1961.
E
E
We
expect
our
presidents
and
governors
and
and
mayors
to
not
lie
to
us
and
at
the
same
time
we
do
expect
them
on
occasion
to
protect
us
to
lie
to
us
now.
Do
you
counselors
think
that
the
foreign
intelligence
surveillance
act
of
1978,
renewed
2012,
fisa
courts
and
national
security
letters
are
compatible
with
the
us
constitution?
F
F
For
this
we
are
grateful
with
that
in
mind.
We
at
smithfield
smithfield
want
you
to
know
that
we
are
open
to
assisting
as
we
are
able
to
be
a
temporary
shelter
facility,
as
the
city
explores
its
options
on
the
development
of
a
more
permanent
of
more
permanent
solutions
to
homelessness
in
our
city.
Thank
you.
G
Pittsburgh
firefighter
who
fell
during
the
line
of
duty.
He
was
honored
with
the
memorial
class
at
bonaire
school.
That
plaque
remains
on
the
school
property.
The
school
property
has
been
squandered
and
disregarded
by
the
pittsburgh
school
board.
It
is
extremely
appropriate
that
memorial
class
stays
there
along
with
other
remembrances
of
former
firefighters
who
have
passed
away
and
they
should
not
be
forgotten.
G
Are
you
the
or
the
people
of
bonaire
or
against
the
property
owners?
Do
you
stand
with
mayor
state
representative,
phantom
and
councilman
coghill
for
the
creation
of
green
space
to
replace
the
detrimental
school
building?
The
michael
mullen
green
space
is
for
all
ages
and
basis.
People
jd
trees,
not
cheap
deals
in
lanai.
Thank
you.
A
H
My
name's
rob
axon,
I'm
pittsburgher
since
1978
when
I
came
after
my
army
career
of
11
years
to
pursue
a
phd
at
carnegie
mellon.
It
was
a
wonderful
time
for
me.
The
steelers
win
the
super
bowl.
The
pirates
win
the
world
series,
the
steelers
win
the
super
bowl
again
and
my
thesis
advisor
won
the
nobel
prize.
So
I
realized
I've
really
come
to
the
right
place.
So
pittsburgh
is
my
hometown.
H
My
kids
have
been
born
here
have
started
companies
here.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
share
some
thoughts
today
and
applaud
what
I
gather
is
the
council's
efforts
to
re-examine
issues
of
zoning
for
the
sake
of
finding
ways
of
expanding
housing,
particularly
affordable
housing,
and
so
I
want
to
applaud
that
effort.
H
Over
the
last
10
years
since
I've
been
retired,
I've
been
studying
the
problem
of
homelessness,
not
just
here
in
the
united
states,
but
in
other
countries
as
well,
australia
and
new
zealand
trying
to
be
boots
on
ground
going
around
spending
time
on
the
streets
talking
to
everybody
I
can
most
of
it
has
been
in
california
over
the
last
year,
I've
traveled
across
the
country.
Six
times
looking
at
things
in
various
cities,
but
california
is
where
my
daughters
live.
H
H
So
I
really
do
think
this
idea
of
being
expanding
the
options
for
exploring
ideas,
and
what
I
would
like
to
suggest
is
to
look
for
ways
that
you
can
expedite
the
process
by
allowing
maybe
temporary
permits
to
do
things
on
not
only
on
private
land
but
public
land
to
just
try
out
some
ideas,
and
then
we
could
take
this
through
school
projects
and
getting
kids
interested
in
it
to
doing
you
know,
conferences
and
maybe
kubecon
at
at
the
three-four
arts
festival
to
developing
companies,
and
so
on.
H
So
to
conclude
summarizing
you
know
it.
Ideas
are
cheap.
These
are
we
it's
easy
to
come
up
with
grand
ideas,
but
converting
ideas
into
innovations
that
can
succeed
in
the
marketplace
is
very
hard,
and
I
think
the
council
can
play
a
key
role
in
this
by
acting
as
a
catalyst
to
enable
people,
public
and
private,
to
just
try
things
out.
They
you
know
for
a
month
and
if
it
doesn't
work
or
there's
something
bad
happens,
then
just
stop.
A
I
I
I
There
are
distinctive
companies,
road,
safe
traffic
systems,
railing
enterprises,
those
two
seem
to
be
the
biggest
junk
piles
and
when
looking
at
the
reviews,
they
won't
pick
them
up
if
they're
damaged.
While
pittsburgh
is
becoming
the
tropical
storm
area
of
winds,
your
signs
are
going
to
get
damaged
a
new
one
in
beechview
that
never
ever
leaves
or
sign
behind
all
women
operated,
aw,
safe,
always
safe.
I
It's
all
women,
the
one
outside
your
window,
it
seems
to
be
with
people's
gas,
is
elenin
security.
So
all
of
these
things
are
trackable.
I
saw
some
new
signage
put
up
in
south
side
along
the
bike
trails.
We
have
erector
sets
that
are
cemented
in
for
the
permanent
signs.
I
think
in
in.
I
think
these
things
when
they're
pre-planned
need
to
come
through
the
city,
so
we
can
track
them.
I
They
could
be
attached
to
the
existing
they're
literally
erector
sets
for
big
boys.
They
can
be
attached
with
nuts
and
bolts
or
in
the
south
side
along
the
bike
lanes.
They've
used
big,
thick,
zip
ties,
but
there
needs
to
be
some
kind
of
a
tracking
somebody's
going
to
get
hurt.
A
lot
of
these
when
they're
knocked
over.
It's
like
a
four
pronged
bottom
and
they're
all
piled
on
top
of
each
other.
What
happens
when
a
kid
is
running
and
they
fall?
That's
a
stat.
That's
a
stab
waiting
to
happen.
I
Martin's,
auto
never
got
a
traffic
ticket.
Lexus
got
one.
When
I
called
and
said
their
pretty
yellow
car
with
balloons
was
literally
parked
up
on
the
yellow
ramp
coming
down
from
pauling
to
broadway.
They
need
to
stop
again
getting
a
green
light.
They've,
never
maybe
won
in
the
past,
or
two
114
dollar
tickets
and
11717
tickets
for
parking
where
they
weren't
supposed
to
you
can
get
out
of
debt
for
these
guys
getting
parking
six
cars
on
a
daily
basis
on
the
sidewalk
okay.
J
Good
afternoon
council,
I
had
no
intention
of
speaking
today
actually
came
over
for
the
overdose
awareness.
I
myself
found
myself
seven
years
ago,
coming
out
of
allegheny
county
jail
homeless
and
trying
to
get
clean
and
trying
to
rebuild
my
life
and
everything
that
I'd
lost.
J
I
now
own
a
building
over
on
first
avenue,
I
own
an
art
gallery
and
a
tattoo
studio,
but
I
also
have
access
to
some
other
properties
here
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
as
well
as
one
just
on
the
border
in
mckees
rocks.
It
would
suit
102
beds
or
102
people.
It
could
house,
and-
and
I
seen
the
initiative
for
the
homeless
on
the
news,
the
other
night
and
I
reached
out
to
teresa-
and
I
asked
her
about
this-
it's
it's
a
turnkey
building,
there's
a
church
on
site.
J
There
is
a
full
commercial-sized
kitchen
on
site.
There
is
six
acres,
I
believe
of
you
know:
landscape,
it's
a
beautiful
facility
that
would
be
able
to
take
in
quite
a
few
of
the
homeless
people
and
and
put
an
immediate
dent
in
what
the
city's
trying
to
propose.
You
know,
and
it
would
look
really
good
for
the
you
know
the
city
to
announce
something
say
they're
going
to
do
something
and
follow
through
with
it
swiftly.
J
You
know,
and
I
have
access
to
this
building
immediately
and
I
would
love
to
you
know
hopefully
gain
the
attention
of
city
council
and,
if
not
this
building,
maybe
you
know
another
building,
but
you
know
anything
that
I
could
do
now
that
I'm
you
know
it's
seven
years
that
I've
rebuilt
my
life.
You
know
I
spend
time
trying
to
give
back
and
do
whatever
I
can.
You
know
whether
it
be
charity
or
drug
and
alcohol.
You
know
counseling,
adolescent
counseling,
you
know
if
I
can
be
of
any
assistance.
I
would
absolutely
love
to
be
so.
A
B
A
B
Bill
647
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
the
office
of
management
and
budget
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
to
enter
into
a
cooperation
agreement
with
the
comprehensive
municipal
pension
trust
fund
board,
as
approved
by
the
council
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
Pursuant
to
chapter
272
of
the
city
code
of
ordinances,.
B
Bill
648
resolution
authorizing
14
open-end
professional
services
agreements
with
multiple
vendors
to
provide
professional
services
on
an
on-call
basis,
as
required
related
to
architecture
and
interior
design
services,
as
needed
by
the
various
departments
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
Each
agreement
being
at
an
amount
not
to
exceed
two
million
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
annually
for
a
two-year
term,
with
up
to
two
additional
one-year
options
and
providing
for
funding
of
the
cost
thereof.
K
A
Any
discussion
seeing
none,
I
do
have
a
question
and
I
can
get
mine
answered
by
tuesday
and
it's
for
a
couple
of
these
open-ended
professional
services
agreement,
I'm
just
they
did
send
the
list
over
of
who
was
actually
going
to
be
awarded.
I'm
just
curious.
How
many
are
minority
or
women-owned
businesses,
and
I
don't
see
jennifer
or
I
see
joshua.
L
Yes,
yes,
good
morning,
council,
I
am
the
source
of
specialist,
that's
in
charge
of
administering
these
contracts.
I
do
not
have
that
number
in
front
of
me.
I
can't
tell
you
that
they
did
appear
before
the
aorc
and
I
believe
the
majority
of
them
passed.
I
can
check
with
our
erc
representatives
and
get
back
to
you
as
soon
as
possible.
I
can
get
that
out
today.
A
M
Just
want
to
add,
because
we,
they
also
include
how
many
are
veterans,
because
that
was
also
part
of
the
legislation
that
we
had.
A
Joshua,
if
you
didn't
hear
just
also
let
us
know
how
many
maybe
maybe
veteran-owned
businesses
any
further
discussion.
Yes
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
pharmacy
recommendation
bill,
649.
B
Bill
649
resolution
authorizing
21
open-end
professional
services
agreements
with
multiple
vendors
to
provide
professional
services
on
an
on-call
basis,
as
required
related
to
architecture
and
interior
design,
services
and
energy
efficiency.
Consulting
services
as
needed
by
the
various
departments
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
Each
agreement
being
at
an
amount
not
to
exceed
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
annually
for
a
two-year
term,
with
up
to
two
additional
one-year
options
and
providing
for
funding
of
the
costs
thereof.
A
Second,
any
discussion:
council
gross
yeah.
O
I
apologize-
I
I
was
trying
to
follow.
Is
this
for
dpw
for
our
own
facilities,
or
is
this
actually
kind
of
for
architectural
and
like
planning
on
call
for
other
things
like
city
planning
and
neighborhood
planning,
and
things
like
that.
A
L
You're
correct,
in
your
assumption,
this
is
for
so
these
these
are
housed
within
the
office
of
management
budget,
whether
once
they
administer
the
contracts.
I
will
say
that
the
majority
of
the
use
that
will
come
from
dpw,
but
these
are
available
to
any
city
department,
should
they
be
correctly
using
them.
We
always
work
with
the
department
to
make
sure
that
this
is
the
proper
solicitation
for
them
before
they
go
out
and
actually
use
these
kinds
of
contracts.
O
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
answer.
I
appreciate
that
we
certainly
do
need
it
for
our
own
facilities,
but
I
appreciate
that
there
is
some
opportunity
if,
if
members
have
projects
in
their
districts,
that
many
of
us
have
been
are
concerned
that
we
don't
have
enough
personnel
in
other
city
departments
like
domi,
for
planning
for
mobility
projects
or
our
own
planning
department
is
really
struggling
with
staffing.
So,
when
we're
trying
to
move
forward,
you
know
rebuilding
neighborhoods
and
investing
in
communities
and
addressing
things
like
housing
and
homelessness.
O
G
M
Thank
you.
Could
we
have
some
update
on
this
for
some
information
or
someone
here
to
discuss
this?
Mr.
M
Hi
kelly,
how
are
you
good?
Could
you
tell
me
what
this
exactly
is?
There's
places
that
you're
looking
for
emergency
shelter
is
there
is
this
anything
that
can
can
work
with
the
conjunction
with
councilman
gross's
legislation?
I'm
just
wondering
what
what
this
is,
what
all
it
is.
D
All
right
there
are
two
pieces
of
legislation,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
talking
about
the
right
one.
A
D
P
M
It's
bill:
zero,
six,
five,
zero!
It's
here,
yeah.
O
D
Right,
I
have
it
right
here.
Thank
you.
I
should
have
grabbed
this,
no
we're
good.
Now.
What
we're
doing
here
is
we're.
Actually
the
money
was
already
allocated
to
certain
groups.
So
what
we're
doing
is
that
we're
reallocating
funds
that
couldn't
be
spent
by
certain
groups
to
groups
that
can
spend
the
money.
D
There
was
an
application
process
groups
applied
to
receive
these
funds.
Applications
were
reviewed
by
members
of
omb
by
members
of
allegheny
county
economic
development
by
the
bureau
of
department.
Excuse
me,
the
department
of
human
services
through
dhs
and
people
with
individuals
with
lift
experience.
O
I
will
ask
a
follow-up
question.
Thank
you,
mr
russell.
So
we
we
had
public
comment
earlier
that
the
county
had
removed
the
beds
from
smithfield.
P
O
Which
has
been
acting
as
one
of
our
winter
shelters
right,
so
it's
not
open
like
right
now,
but
when
the
weather
gets
cold,
it
is
typically
open
in
in
our
briefings
with
the
administration
on
homelessness.
Over
the
last
six
seven
weeks,
or
so,
I
thought
I
distinctly
remembered
that
the
administration
was
counting
on
smithfield
street
being
open
so
that
we
would
have
enough
shelter
beds
for
our
currently
estimated
unhoused
population.
Do
you
are
you
in
the
same
conversations
here
as
you
reallocate
to
figure
out
where
additional
shelters
will
be?
D
O
O
D
D
We
are
decreasing
the
contract
for
three
rivers,
communities
from
125,
000
down
to
three
thousand
eight
forty,
seven,
ninety
two
cents
with
that
money,
we're
adding
money
to
bethlehem
haven
where
the
contract
will
go
up
from
487.06
to
537
168..
D
We
are
also-
I
don't
know
if
you're
writing,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
looking
down
goodwill
of
southwestern
pennsylvania.
We
are
increasing
their
contract
from
67
000
to
151,
690.
and
salvation
army,
we're
increasing
their
contract
from
fifty
eight
thousand.
Sixty
eight
thousand
dollars.
O
Okay,
I
apologize
so
bill.
650
says
that
I'm
looking
at
the
text
file
now
myself,
it
says
that
it's
decreasing
emergency
solutions
grant
by
one
hundred
and
fifty
one
thousand
one
hundred
and
fifty
two
dollars
and
eight
cents.
It
says
that
it
is
increasing
pittsburgh,
mercy,
life
center,
bethlehem
haven
by
fifty
six
thousand
four
hundred
and
sixty.
N
D
What
happened
was
when
that
piece
of
legislation
was
done
previously,
it
was
all
allocated
as
one
amount
it
was
not
broken
down
by
organization.
So
that's
why.
O
So
we
can't
vote
on
something
differently
than
you
have
in
front
of
us.
It's
either
we're
reading
two
different
bills
or
you've
got
the
the
we
have
the
wrong
legislation
in
front
of
us
for
this
number.
You
know
we
we're
very
interested
and
supportive
of
this
topic.
I
think,
but
I
didn't
see
in
our
legislation
any
of
the
organizations
that
you
read
and
I've
got
organizations
that
you
didn't
read
and
they're
completely
different
dollar
amounts.
So
why
don't
we
just
hold
on?
A
I
was
also
actually
trying
to
pull
it
up
to
try
to
get
clarity.
While
I
do
that
council.
P
A
Q
I
think
there's
some
confusion
in
general,
because
I
was
on
previous
emails
for
this
piece
of
legislation.
Also,
oh.
N
Q
It's
in
my
anyway,
there
were
two
bills
that
related
to
this,
that
I've
been
in
communication
with
omb.
I
think
previously
they
thought
that
both
bills
will
be
in
my
committee,
but
it
seems
that
one
of
them
showed
up
in
finance.
Q
Q
Homelessness
is,
is,
is
visible
to
everyone,
so
I'm
hesitant
to
to
hold
for
that
purpose.
There's
other
people
that
came
in
the
room
and
also
that
are
in
the
room
that
are
within
omb.
P
Q
But
while
I
have
the
my
time
I'll
just
I'll
just
ask
them
one
question:
can
you
explain
emergency
service
grants
for
the
public
yeah
emergency.
D
Solutions
group
grants
I'm
sorry,
emergency
solutions,
no
you're,
you're,
fine,
it's
perfectly
fine.
The
purpose
of
emergency
solutions
grant
is
actually
to
engage
homeless,
individuals
and
families
living
on
the
street
is
that's
one,
improve
the
number
of
quality,
improve
the
number
and
quality
of
emergency
shelters
for
homeless,
individuals
and
families.
Q
How
much
how
much,
how
many
millions
of
dollars
did
we
get
for
that.
D
D
6
million!
No!
No
sir!
That's
what
I'm
saying:
that's
normally
a
lot
less
well
less,
for
instance,
I'm
actually
pulling
out
a
sheet
here.
So
just
over
the
last
three
years
this
for
2022
the
allocation
is
one
million
one
hundred
ninety
eight
thousand
nine
hundred
forty
six
dollars
for
2021.
It
was
one
million
two
hundred
fourteen
thousand
four
hundred
and
eighteen
dollars
for
twenty
twenty.
It
was
one
million
two
hundred
and
sixteen
dollars
and
100
x,
216
and
133.
D
Q
You're
telling
me
that
the
city
of
pittsburgh
receives
funding
specifically
to
address
homelessness
and
the
amount
is
not
greater
than
two
million
every
year.
Yes,
sir
okay,
so
where
does
that?
Where
I
mean
we
see,
homelessness
is
increased.
You
know,
you
know
dips
and
dives.
Every
year
it
can
fluctuate
from
400
800.
Q
Is
it
lying
some
other
some
other
funding
that
we
get
from
the
federal
government.
D
No,
it's
a
part
of
how
of
our
whole
cd
allocation,
but
there
are
specific
funds
just
for
emergency
solutions
grants.
As
I
said
previously,
when
it
comes
to
the
awarding
of
these
funds,
we
go
through
an
allocation
process.
Up
until
this
year,
esg
fund
esg
funding
was
handled
jointly
with
allegheny
county
economic
development,
starting
with
program.
22
excuse
me
program
year,
2022,
the
funding
is
now
a
joint
program
with
department
of
human
services.
D
If
you
can
explain
more,
oh
no,
I
was
just
going
to
say
so.
As
I
was
saying
previously,
there's
an
application
process.
Groups
apply
to
receive
these
funds
and
we
award
the
funds
to
the
organizations,
there's
a
certain
amount
they
receive
and,
as
a
once
again
said,
there's
only
five
categories
where
these
funds
can
be
used:
street
outreach,
emergency,
shelter,
yeah,
homeless
prevention,
rapid
rehousing
and
hmis,
which
is
data
collection
system,
that's
housed
by
the
county.
Q
Okay,
and
can
you
explain
the
what
what
are
you
on
with
dhs?
I
missed
that
part.
D
I'm
sorry:
what
are
we
doing
with
them?
Yeah
they
join.
We
jointly
administer
the
program.
The
program
esg
has
covered
the
city.
D
D
Same
or
plus
or
minus
around
1.2
that
we
also
receive
so
we
do
a
joint
program
together,
so
they
receive
the
equal
amount.
Yes,
however,
I
would
like
to
also
mention
that
when
it
really
comes
to
serving
homelessness
as
a
whole,
allegheny
county
department
of
human
services
receives
a
whole
different
pot
of
funding
that
really
controls
and
oversees
the
homeless
population
as
a
whole.
D
So
I
don't
know
if
anybody
has
worked
here
previously,
but
I
know
that
homelessness
is
a
situation
that
you
everybody
wants
to
tackle.
I
would
really
suggest
that
if
nobody
has
contacted
abigail
horn,
the
director
of
bureau
homeless
of
services
for
the
department
of
human
services,
somebody
should
contact
her
in
regards
to
working
together
in
a
partnership.
D
K
Second
round,
thank
you
thank
you
for
being
here
and
for
that
explanation
I
feel
like.
I
am
peeling
back
an
onion
here,
because
I
am
learning
more
and
more
every
day,
and
today,
I'm
learning
even
more
so
according
to
I
realize
there
might
be
a
discrepancy,
but
according
to
what
I'm
looking
at,
we
are
reducing
the
emergency
solutions
grant
and
one
of
the
line
items
from
about
by
about
151
000.
K
It's
clear
where
the
emergency
solutions
grant
is
being
allocated,
pittsburgh
mercy,
life
center,
bethlehem
haven,
goodwill
for
the
ones
that
are
just
described
as
emergency
solutions
grant
and
the
deliverable
is
emergency
solutions
grant.
K
D
D
Going
to
organizations
you
just
previously
mentioned
even
with
this
reallocation
of
funds,
we're
actually
giving
it
back
to
these
organizations
to
help
spend
down
these
funds.
When
it
comes
to
this
esg
cv
funding,
we
have
a
certain
amount
of
time
that
we
have
to
spend
these
funds
actually
hud
increased
the
timeline.
The
original
timeline
for
these
funds
to
be
spent
was
actually
september.
30Th
of
2022..
D
However,
this
past
april
hud
increased
the
deadline
to
september
30th
of
2023.
Along
with
that,
we
had
a
50
spend
deadline
of
june
15th
of
2022,
which
we
did
hit,
but
the
main
goal
is
to
spend
down
these
funds
and
we're
still
using
the
exact
same
organizations.
Who've
already
seen
these
funds
to
help
spend
down
these
funds.
K
P
K
D
P
D
D
A
M
R
Actually
looked,
kelly
just
spoke
to
the
point
that
I
was
planning
to
make
that
I
just
think
had
not
been
perhaps
just
to
be
further
clarify,
as
as
kelly
just
mentioned
in
response
to
council
person,
strassburger's
question
the
older
budget
years,
where
these
allocations
were
made.
They
were
not
the
deliverables
were
not
listed
in
an
itemized
way
and
so
moving
those
funds
from
that
older
line
item.
R
That
was
a
single
line
item
that
included
the
entire
program
into
the
now
itemized
format
that
we
currently
use
is
the
reason
for
some
of
the
inconsistency
in
the
wording
in
the
bill,
because
we're
moving
from
one
budget
year
where
it
was
listed
a
different
way
than
we
do
now.
So
kelly
spoke
to
that
in
that
last
response.
That
was
the
main.
P
R
I
wanted
to
make
because
I
think
it
speaks
in
part
to
the
question
you
were
asking
councilwoman
gross
more
generally
going
back
to
a
question
that
I
heard
you
asked
councilman
gross
as
I
was
walking
over
the
relationship
between
these
reallocations
and
other
funds
expended
on
this
work
by
the
county
or
other
agencies
that
play
a
role.
Here
is
still
a
net
neutral.
The
same
amount
of
money
is
being
expended.
R
What
is
happening
here
is
that
some
of
the
organizations
that
had
previously
been
awarded
funds
have
not
had
the
capacity
to
expend
them
quickly
enough
to
meet
our
deadline,
and
that,
of
course,
is
not
good
for
anyone,
both
from
a
compliance
perspective
for
the
city
and
because
it
means
that
the
funds
are
not
being
delivered
for
their
intended
purpose
in
addressing
homelessness.
At
the
same
time,
there
are
other
recipients
on
our
current
list
who
have
additional
capacity
to
deploy
the
funds
on
a
timeline
that
aligns
with
our
criteria.
R
So
this
is
a
net
neutral
movement
within
the
program
of
the
funds
from
to
providers
who
have
the
ability
and
the
capacity
to
you
put
them
on
the
street
in
a
timely
manner.
That's
that's
the
overarching
objective
here.
It's
separate
and
apart
from
other
efforts
that
councils
involved
in
the
administration
is
involved
in
and
others
conversations
around
expanding
our
activity
in
this
space
generally
beyond
the
scope
of
what
is
funded
through
esg
cv.
You
know
we
are
continuing
to
work
towards
solutions
on
that
that
we'll
be
happy
to
discuss
in
the
post
agenda.
R
That's
coming
up
in
another
context,
but
this
is
a
redeployment
of
funds
which
is
not
atypical,
as
we
come
towards
the
end
of
the
funding
cycle
to
ensure
that
the
funds
are
all
expended
by
the
deadline
to
to
make
sure
that
those
organizations
with
the
capacity
to
deploy
them,
whereas
some
of
the
recipients
just
have
run
into
snags,
delays
or
challenges
and
cannot
fully
utilize
them
in
time.
We
reshuffle
it's
similar
to
what
we
do
in
capital
projects
and
moving
between
deliverables
when
challenges
arise.
M
M
So
I
think
sending
it
over
and
over
correct
would
help
us
understand
a
little
bit
better,
so
we
don't
have
to
scrimmage
through
you
know
the
text
file,
which
is
much
thicker
and
lengthier,
but
thank
you
for
having
us
here,
madam
perks,
that
we
could
do
that.
M
So
I'll
just
say
make
sure
that
that's
clarified
for
any
future
legislation
and
coming
forward
for
next
week,
so
that
that
number
is
included,
and
is
this
part
of
any
of
the
stuff
that
you
know
so
you
mentioned
about
everyone
working
together
and
one
of
the
things
I
said
yesterday
is
we're
going
to
form
a
task
force,
a
committee,
a
special
committee
to
work
on
homelessness,
and
so
I'd
like.
M
I
appreciate
the
suggestion
who
to
include,
I
want
to
say
I
appreciate
chief
frank
she's,
been
very
helpful
and
working
with
her,
but
I
think
that
it's
it's
imperative
for
our
the
people
that
we
hire
to
work
on
these
issues
and
the
people
you
hire
to
work
on
these
issues,
to
collaborate
together
and
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
in
at
least
internally
that
we're
having
these
conversations
and
everyone's
at
the
same
table.
M
The
fact
is
we're
the
ones
that
are
going
to
move
the
money
or
not,
and
so,
if
you
want
to
do
some
things,
let's
do
some
things
together
to
really
make
some
changes
but
make
sure
city
council
is
at
that
table,
so
we're
going
to
form
a
task
force.
I
hope
that
you'll
work
with
us
on
that
and
be
supportive
of
that
and
be
supportive
of
our
efforts
and
that
we
can
somehow
come
up
with
some
solutions
together,
because
I
think
this
is
something
we
all
care
about
tremendously.
M
O
You
I
appreciate
it,
so
I'm
gonna
restate
a
little
bit
about
what
mr
russell
and
mr
pollock
just
said.
Is
that
it's
not
just
that
we're
meeting
your
compliance
deadlines,
but
literally
the
money
that
is
sitting
there
now,
because
those
groups
are
not
reaching
their
capacities,
the
money
isn't
actually
hitting
the
streets
and
I
have
helping
the
people
it
should
help.
O
So
by
doing
these
movements
we're
actually
making
sure
that
the
money
is
doing
the
work
it's
supposed
to
be
doing
now
and
not
later,
and
so
I
really
appreciate
that
explanation
and
indulging
me
on
my
on
my
questions,
because
that's
exactly
what
council
has
been
asking
you
to
do
so
I
appreciate
it.
Q
P
Q
On
the
streets
roots
program
that
does
outreach
work
to
you,
know
vulnerable
populations
like
homelessness
and
also.
N
Q
Q
Dollars
there,
okay
and
they're
in
three
zones,
and
initially
that
was
you,
know
the
solution,
the
initial
solution
to
how
to
work
better
with
the
county.
From
my
understanding,
because
everyone
that
we're
seeing
outside
our
roots,
individual,
our
you
know,
roots
outreach
workers,
are
going
out
and
sign
them
up
for
housing.
Q
Okay,
so
everyone
that
everyone
sees
outside
is
signed
up
for
housing,
and
so
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
just
to
highlight
the
effort
that
has
been
put
forward
previously,
so
that
you
know
the
issue
is
getting
into
housing
the,
how
the
availability
of
housing
and
not
that
I'm
questioning
on
that.
But
I
just
wanted
to
just
talk
about
what
we're
already
funding
in
terms
of
this
esg
cv.
I
don't
want
this
moment
to
leave
and
then
the
you
know
somehow,
you
know
we
don't
really
capture
what
we're
already
funding.
D
So
we
are
funding
ahn.
Does
our
street
home
street
outreach
program,
we
funded
multiple
shelters,
we
funded
goodwill,
salvation
army
light
of
life,
beth
haven.
D
D
Right
now,
right,
if
I
could
just
just
add
a
couple
more,
we
have
what
is
called
our
lead
provider
agencies,
organizations
that
do
the
homeless
prevention
and
rapid
rehousing.
I
just
want
to
also
mention
that
we
have
auberly
and
we
also
have
volunteers
of
america
also
doing
funding
with
esg
cv
funds
too.
So
there
are
organizations
on
behalf
of
the
city
out
there
doing
work
for
the
homeless
and.
R
Go
ahead,
I
may
add
something
very
quickly
on
that
note
is
a
further
clarification
to
the
constraints
in
the
that
that
are
involved
in
this
reallocation.
R
The
providers
that
are
have
were
approved
through
the
application
process
are
because
they
were
proof
the
application
process,
the
only
eligible
recipients
for
this
batch
of
funding,
which
is
why
this
reallocation
is
occurring
within
the
scope
of
the
already
funded
organizations,
just
by
increasing
the
amounts
for
those
who
have
excess
capacity
and
reducing
the
amounts
for
those
who
have
been
struggling
to
to
hit
their
spending
requirements.
So
that
is
separate,
and
apart
from
the
broader
conversation,
you
were
talking
about
council
president
about
expanding
our
overall
work.
R
This
is
a
a
an
adjustment
in
the
funding
levels
of
an
existing
program
to
better
and
more
efficiently
out
get
the
funds
delivered,
and
then
there
is
additional
work
of
and
beyond
that.
That
is
the
topic
of
further
conversation
now,
but
we're
constrained
in
the
reallocation
to
the
already
approved
providers
under
the
existing
program.
S
R
Things
not
involved
in
the
reallocation.
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
the
full
list
that
kelly
read
is
kind
of
the
universe
for
this
program,
based
on
that
joint
application
process
right.
So
I
just
wanted
to
add.
Q
U
Two
things:
one
is
homelessness
as
a
subsection
of
the
lack
of
affordable
housing
generally
right
I'll
come
back
to
that,
but
the
second
thing
is
and
that
the
homeless
population
has
multiple.
U
U
It
is,
it
is
a
social
service
problem
and
that
they
need
all
of
these
right
now.
Here
I
see
the
person
over
at
the
church
right,
it's
not
new
here
they
need
all
these
counseling
and
all
these
other
wrap
around
services
to
be
supportive,
sometimes
criminal,
justice
issues
whatever
it
is
they
need,
but
then
I
just
want
every
time
we
talk
about
affordable
housing.
U
Now
I
think
I'm
going
to
start
saying
this
every
time
and
and
and
I
have
great
respect
and
great
admiration
for
director
pollock
who's
at
the
table-
and
I've
been
saying
this
now-
I
think,
for
six
years,
if
we
are
serious
about
affordable
housing.
U
U
We
have
to
have
upfront
money,
and
I
I
say
this
because
there
was
a
posting
really
today
on
on
facebook,
when
people
were
chatting
about
the
land
bank,
thinking
that
the
land
bank
by
itself
can
rehab
homes
and
that's
not
true,
we
need
a
source,
a
pot
of
money,
that
we
can
you
glass
to
do
especially
four
percent
four
percent
applications
which
have
larger
gaps
but
are
non-competitive.
U
We
need
somewhere
between
60
to
100
billion
dollars,
to
be
able
to
significantly
push
out
enough
housing
on
the
front
end
so
that
we
can
at
least
slow
down
because
every
year
it
goes
up
right
right
right.
So
there's
really
two
strategies
and
I'm
I
I'm
now
going
to
lay
my
my
my
my
hand
on
the
table.
There
are
two
two
which
I'll
pre
I'll
pursue.
Hopefully
work
with
administration.
U
One
is
I'll
continue
to
cheerlead
for
this
affordable
housing
bond
that
councilman
lavelle,
and
I
believe
I
think,
there's
a
second
way
though-
and
I've
been
talking
about
this
privately
but
I'll
talk
about
it
publicly
for
the
first
time
and
I
intend
to
work
on,
it
is,
and
I
I
really
appreciate
you
know,
deb
group's
work
on
inclusionary
zoning.
I
say
right
this
time,
inclusionary
zoning.
I
think,
there's
a
third
option
that
we've
not
yet
proceeded
with
that.
U
Need
to
incentivize
the
bulk
of
housing
is
done
by
private
developers
and
private
banks.
We
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
incentivize
private
construction
and
private
developers
to
include
affordable
housing
in
their
business
model,
so
it's
profitable
for
them.
You
know
if
we
can
figure
out
a
way
of
of
tax
relief
or
incentives
where
it
is
profitable
for
them
to
build,
affordable
housing.
U
U
U
I
just
haven't
talked
about
it,
but
I
think
that
those
are
my
two
solutions
and
I
offer
them
freely,
take
out
the
bond
and
then
let's
rehab
rehab
some
of
our
our
incentives
so
that
there
is
a
financial
benefit
for
developers
to
put
affordable
housing
in
their
in
their
in
their
in
their
in
their
districts
in
their
in
their
in
the
development.
We
know
it's
possible
from
councilman
strasberg's
district,
the
giant
eagle
right.
U
We
know
the
giant
eagle
development
has
affordable
and
in
their
case
they
have
no
incentives
right.
They
did
it
with
zero
incentives.
So
if
they
can
do
it
with
no
ins,
no
incentives
right
other
than
I
think
section,
8
vouchers,
maybe
right
with
no
real
incentives.
They
did
it
out
of
goodness
of
their
heart
they're
doing,
I
think,
15,
affordable
housing.
We
can,
I
think,
provide
a
carrot
to
many
private
developers
and
I
think
that's
the
way,
I'm
talking
too
much,
because
this
is
an
issue.
U
I'm
passionate
about
not
specifically
this
I'll
pa
I'll
vote
for
this
homeless
information,
but
I
think
we
and
we
think
about
social
services
and
wrap
around
services
for
them
and
then,
second
of
all
in
terms
of
affordable
housing.
I
think
both
the
bond
and
the
incentive
to
private
market
rate
developers
to
put
affordable
housing
in
their
units,
both
of
them,
are
solutions.
Q
Here,
but
I
just
want
to,
I
think,
it's
good
to
talk
about
it.
It
was
said
you
know
you
mentioned
that
we
can
have
an
interrogatory,
but
that
you
know
a
lot
of
people.
Maybe
we
could
clarify,
because
you
know
from
working
with
outreach
workers.
My
understanding
is
that
most
people
want
to
go
inside
that
are
outside
and
there
are
challenges
that
people
are
going
through
and
I've
seen
it
firsthand.
Q
You
know,
since
my
district,
you
know,
has
you
know
visible
homelessness
and
people
literally
be
housed
that
people
have
been
saying
they
just
don't
want
to
go
inside,
and
so
I've
seen
this
roots
program
work
where
you
know
they
have
built
a
team
that
involves
doctors
and
people,
that
you
know
social
services
and
they
figure
out
ways
to
break
down
the
barriers
to
get
people
inside,
and
my
understanding
is
that
it's
actually
a
very
small
percent
of
individuals
that
would
be
the
most
challenging
to
get
them
into
a
safe
space
inside.
Q
So
I
just
wanted
to
you
know,
I
don't
disagree.
Okay,.
F
Q
Of
said,
it's
just
like
I
hear
that
line
a
lot
about.
You
know
where
that
line
kind
of
said
a
few
different
ways
about
people.
You
know
that
are
outside
and
that's
just
that's
just
how
it
is,
and
I
think
there
are
real
solutions
that
we
can
all
work
towards
and
and
break
down.
You
know
the
barriers
of
of
places
that
have
put
you
know
a
spot
inside
for
them
to
be.
We
just
need
to
move.
Q
We
need
to
move
that
ball
down
the
line
and
that
ball
that's
gonna,
move
down
online
is
gonna,
take
real
leadership,
because
people
and
I'm
looking
for
that
out
there.
You
know
people
that
want
to
be
in
the
room
to
have
that
discussion,
because
people
are
using
drugs,
yep
and
they're
not
accepted
inside
yep
people
are
people
have
mental
health
issues
that
even
so
you
know
you
you
work,
you
know
my
understanding
is
the
people
who
work
with
them
will
be
able
to
get
them
inside.
Q
Everyone
has
an
opportunity
that
just
so
everyone
has
an
opportunity.
That's
outside
has
an
opportunity
inside
the
conversation.
The
question
I
love
the
most
is:
what
would
it
take?
You
know
to
get
you
inside
some
people
don't
want
to
go
to
the
shelter
where
there
is
a
bunk
style
room.
So
you
know
my
district
there's
ymca
sros,
you
know,
there's
there's,
there's
different
types
of
you
know.
Q
Q
That
was
closed
down.
You
know
and
I'm
curious
to
you
know,
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
conversation
of
of
what
happens
in
the
future.
You
know
on
models
like
that,
because
talking
to
the
people
that
were
able
to
to
get
them
inside
to
that
to
that
hotel
they
saw
people
go
inside.
That
would
never
go
inside,
because
there
was
that
you
know
they
had
some
privacy
that
was
dignified,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to.
Q
I
just
want
to
address
that
and
make
those
comments,
and
you
know
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
it.
U
U
The
wrong
way,
but
I
agree
with
you,
a
thousand
percent
that
they
need
these
services.
They
can't
just
we
can't
just
build
houses
and
say
come
in.
There
needs
to
be
a
a
process
that
gives
them
services
that
they
need
and
clarifications
that
they
need
and
and
get
barriers
away.
So
when
they
go
inside
they're,
not
a
danger
to
other
people
and
they're
not
a
danger
to
themselves,
and
they
can
function
fully
inside
that
environment.
So
we're,
I
think,
we're
saying
exactly
the
same
thing.
N
A
Thank
you,
councilman
coghill.
I
believe
I
saw
president
smith
yep.
V
V
I
believe
that
I
think
councilwoman
gross
said
it
best.
There's
a
gap:
okay,
whereas
when
we
talk
about
allegheny
health
network,
which
I'm
a
big
believer
in
councilman
wilson
and
I've
worked
closely
with
dan
pelco
and
the
county
executive
and
talking
about
different
things,
we
can
do
there
and
reverend
burgess
you're.
Absolutely
right.
You
know
we
need
a
program
once
we
find
shelter,
shelter.
V
A
house
first
step,
though,
is
filling
that
gap
with
housing,
and
we
have
taken
that
step
as
council,
which
I'm
very
proud
to
have
co-sponsored
to
say,
we
need
to
fill
this
gap.
V
Many
different
ways
about
that
when
you
talk
about
a
60
million
or
so
dollar
bond
over
the
long
term,
and
I
think,
as
councilman
gross
says,
there's
a
lot
of
different
pieces
to
the
puzzle
and
as
we
move
along
and
as
we
learn
more
we're
finding
different
avenues,
different
ways,
whether
it's
transferring
this
money
getting
it
on
the
streets
right
away,
I'm
not
necessarily
for
taking
out
a
60
milli
million
dollar
bond
at
this
point,
but
I
do
feel
we
have
to
identify.
V
V
Yeah,
well,
why
don't
you
come
to
if
I
may
call
him
I'd
like
to
ask
him
a
few
questions.
Is
that
okay.
V
V
I
know
that
we
talk,
you
know
frequently
about
it
here,
but
the
bottom
line
is,
we
don't
have
it
yet
and,
as
councilman
wilson
had
pointed
out,
I
think
that
we
can
get
them
off
the
streets
if
we
had
a
place
for
them
to
go,
not
a
shelter,
not
a
24-hour
stay
there,
but
a
place
where
you
know
they
can
actually
rehab
with
that
comes
as
councilman
burgess
pointed
out
services,
we
need
social
services,
we
need
people,
you
know
whether
it's
a
drug
affliction,
whether
it's
mental
illness,
we
need
people
working
with
them,
so
they
can
re-acclimate
into
society.
V
V
P
J
It's
a
price
that
was
brought
to
me
by
someone
that
I
do
business
with
it
helped
me
get
my
building.
It's
an
available
building
right
now.
It's
right
on
the
border
in
mckees
rocks
it's
on
charters
avenue
it's
a
102
unit.
It
used
to
be
an
old
folks,
home,
there's
a
church
on
site,
there's
a
secure
medical
facility
on
site,
there's
an
auditorium
on
site,
there's
enough
room
to
house
and
facilitate
even
the
programs.
Mr
burgess
was
talking
about
whether
it
be
a
a
detox
facility
or
a
detox
wing.
J
J
Yes,
absolutely
I'm
listening
to
you
know
just
listening
everything
and
you
know
I
don't
look.
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
know
what
it's
like
to
be
dope,
sick
and
and
have
zero
desperation
and
just
feel
like
life.
Is
you
know
this?
There's
nothing
left.
You
know
I
do
so,
like
speaking
from
experience,
you
know
a
lot
of
those
homeless.
People
they're
afraid
to
make
that
move,
because
they
feel
like
they're
they're,
going
to
be
sick,
they're
afraid
that
they're
not
going
to
get
the
help
that
they
need
when
they
go
in.
J
V
Get
right
so
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
weeks
and
weeks,
and
here
it
is
falls
right
in
our
lap
this
morning.
As
far
as
I'm
concerned,
you
know
if,
if
this
gentleman
has
a
facility
that
we
can
look
at
and
move
people
in
immediately
and
get
120
of
our
guesstimated
500
homeless,
off
the
street
and
start
getting
them
help
right
away
with
social
services
and
with
the
proper
tools
that
we
can
reacclimate
them
into
success.
J
V
General,
but
you
know
you
can
go
around
the
nation
you're
talking
about
buying
hotels,
you're,
talking
about
building
you're
talking
about
many
houses,
we're
talking
about
all
of
that.
What
we
have
focused,
I
think
what
councilwoman
gross
has
identified
is
there's
a
gap
we
need,
as
councilman
wilson
says,
these
people
folks
probably
want
to
find
a
place
to
live.
They
want
to
get
better.
We
hope
they
want
to
get
better.
V
We
have
to
provide
the
services,
and
we
all
know
that's
you
know-
could
be
a
long
process
up
to
two
years
to
get
somebody
back
where
they
can
self-sustain
themselves,
but
the
lack
of
the
gap
housing
that
we
don't
have
right
now
that
we
can
put
them
somewhere.
I
feel
this
gentleman
come
and
said
here
I
have
it
so
you
know
two
million
dollars,
it's
a
drop
in
the
bucket
as
to
what
we're
going
to
end
up.
You
know,
financing
again.
V
Well,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
being
here.
That's
all
the
questions
I
have
for
you
unless
we'll
leave
a
mirror.
If
anybody
else
has
any
questions
for
him,
anyone
else
want
to.
V
Okay,
you
can
yeah.
Thank
you.
Yeah
you're
welcome,
you're
welcome!
So
so
you
know
when
we
we
talk
about,
you
know
homelessness
and
we
talk
about
how
to
get
people
off
of
the
street.
I
believe
strongly
in
allegheny
health
network
and
what
they
do
identifying.
I
believe
dan
palco
can
go
out
and
say
this
person's
ready.
We
can
get
them
in
the
house
tomorrow
and
start
the
rehab
process,
and
this
gentleman
comes
in
here
and
says
you
know
we
have
120
beds
a
facility
on
six
acres
of
ground.
I
want
to
see
it.
V
You
know,
and
I
want
to
think-
and
I
think
to
myself.
Well,
if
we're
going
to
invest
money
into
anything.
This
is
an
immediate
thing
that
we
could
put
our
finances
into
and
say:
hey.
We
just
took
100
people
off
the
streets
and
I'm
sure
we
could
fill
that
facility
tomorrow
of
those
500
people.
So
that's
it
for
me
now,
thanks.
M
I
don't
want
to
belabor
this.
I
know
that
we
have
so
many
other
bills,
but
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
think
when
we're
talking
about
housing,
we've
got
to
ask
what
we're
doing
with
housing
authority,
what
we're
doing
with
the
funding
that
they
receive,
what
we're
doing
with
the
housing
opportunity
fund
and
the
funding
we
receive
there,
and
we
also
rehab
the
arpa
funds,
which
we
did
allocate
some
to
richard
snipe
and
his
department,
where
they're
supposed
to
be
remodeling
or
renovating
homes.
M
So
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
all
those
funds
collectively
and
try
to
figure
out
a
way
that
we
can
put
them
towards
the
efforts
that
we
really
want.
But
I
want
to
thank
tim
for
coming
down
because
tim
is
my
cousin
and
I'm
thankful
that
you
shared
your
story.
I
know
it's
a
painful
one.
I
know
that
so
I
don't
want
to.
M
I
don't
want
to
put
you
in
that
in
that
situation,
but
thank
you
for
sharing
that
story,
but
I
think
that
it's
it's
imperative
that,
whatever
we
do,
we
keep
talking
about
the
wraparound
services
and
making
sure
that
we're
getting.
You
know
social
services
into
people
that
really
need
help,
but
that's
not
the
only
thing
they
need.
M
We
need
to
make
sure
they
have
the
tools
and
a
place
to
put
somebody
if
they,
if
they
choose
to
to
take
a
house
or
two
to
get
off
the
street
and
or
to
go
into
service
and
into
some
kind
of
counseling,
and
I
think
if
we
don't
have
the
housing
available
to
us,
that's
the
priority
right
now.
So
I
think
that
for
us
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
helping
people
like
tim,
who
really
what
I'm
really
proud
of
you
and
how
you
turned
your
life
around.
I
mean
seven
years.
M
You've
done
an
amazing
job.
You
own
your
own
business.
His
uncle
was
chuck
better.
So
if
anybody,
if
anybody
had
money
to
help
somebody,
if
money
were
the
answer
that
he
would
have
been
helped
a
long
time
ago,
the
problem
is
that
he
needed
to
get
the
cert
the
services
first,
and
so
he
he
was
able
to
get
that
and
able
to
turn
his
life
around.
So
I
just
want
to
say
how
proud
of
him
that's
it.
Thank
you.
O
O
What
we
really
heard
was
that
from
from
people
on
the
streets
from
people
who,
from
roots
from
people
at
ochs
in
our
own
city
departments,
that
the
shelter
beds
are
really
not
good
enough
and
we're
grateful
to
the
providers
of
the
shelter
beds,
because
it
was
better
than
being
out
in
the
cold
in
the
streets
for
sure,
but
that
we
need
years
to
work
on
permanent
housing
and
that
we've
heard,
as
councilman
wilson
pointed
out
from
from
the
ahn
outreach
workers
that
they
believe
they've
reached
every
single
person
and
put
them
in
a
waiting
list
for
housing.
O
But
there
is
no
permanent
housing
right.
So
there's
no
permanent
housing
to
put
people
in
plus
they
need
these
services
that
everyone
is
so
eloquently
described.
So
there's
a
gap
in
between
the
overnight
shelter
beds
that
lack
service
and
actually
are
not
housing
and
the
this
we're
working
on
creating
permanent
housing
each
each
rent
each
apartment.
These
days
it
used
to
be,
we
said,
costs
about
250
000
to
build,
but
with
coveted
commodity
chains
and
limited
labor
supply.
O
I'm
hearing
it's
up
to
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
adds
up
to
a
lot
of
money.
Having
had
many
many
private
market
luxury
rate
apartments
built
in
my
district
in
the
last
eight
years.
I
you
know
those
projects
take
three
years
right,
and
so
that's
not
helping
people
in
the
next
three
months.
It's
not
helping
people
in
the
next
six
months,
so
this
gap
is
what
we
need
to
address.
O
I
was
just
going
to
ask
mr
chair
to
if
we,
I
think,
we're
all
comfortable
now,
after
this
long
discussion
for
sure
that
has
been
wide-ranging
on
voting
bill
650,
but
there
are
additional
bills:
the
bill
that
councilwoman
smith
and
I
co-sponsored
to
move
resources
to
look
at
transitional
housing
and
immediate
responses
to
homelessness.
Perhaps
we
should
read
next,
it's
both
677
because
we
just
had
the
discussion.
O
Basically
and
we're
going
to
motion
to
hold
677
later
in
the
finance
committee
and
and
then
I've
just
we've
figured
out,
thank
you
to
director
pollock
and
mr
randall
that
the
russell
that
the
attendant
bill
to
650
that
we've
been
discussing
is
under
land
use
and
is
660..
O
So
we
may
want
to
read
that
one
as
well,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
just
skip
to
677
after
we
vote
this
one
in
motion
to
hold.
So
we
can
continue
these
discussions.
While
we
work
with
the
administration.
Thank
you
for
to
them
for
their
support.
A
Yes,
you
do
and
I'll
be
brief,
because
I
believe
we
can
do
the
bond
right
now,
as
some
of
you
all
may
or
may
not
recall,
pre-pandemic,
we
were
in
conversations
with
the
banking
industry
about.
Could
we
actually,
as
a
city,
take
out
the
bond
at
that
time?
We
could
not
demonstrate
that
we'd
actually
be
able
to
expend
all
the
dollars
necessary
in
the
appropriate
amount
of
time
to
do
it.
Since
then,
we've
had
further
conversations
and
we've
actually
been
able
to
demonstrate
one.
A
A
The
second
piece
to
this
is
the
city
itself,
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
the
one
to
take
out
the
bond.
The
ura
could
actually
take
out
the
bond
because
we
could
we
could
put
housing
opportunity
fund
dollars
as
one
way
to
pay
off
the
bond
as
a
dedicated
source
of
revenue.
We'd
have
to
extend
the
hof
for
a
period
of
years.
We'd
have
to
take
a
percentage
of
it,
which
I
will
argue
that
and
we
were
going
to
have
to
approve
their
new
budget
coming
up.
A
I
would
argue:
we're
spending
too
much
hof
money,
despite
the
social
service,
needs
we're
spending
too
much
of
it
on
social
services.
We
could
reduce
that
amount
to
then
dedicate
it
to
paying
off
a
bond
that
the
ura
could
take
out,
and
then
we
could
actually
get
the
60
70.
100
million
dollars
up
front
right
now
to
go
to
work
on
this
backlog
of
housing
and
projects
that
is
necessary.
A
So
I'll
continue
also
arguing
and
lobbying
to
do
this,
and
I
believe
we
can
do
it
absolutely
right
now
and
it'd,
be
I
don't
want
to
say
easy,
but
there's
a
streamlined
way
to
actually
get
it
done
and
pnc's
ready
to
do
it.
I've
spoken
with
them,
councilman.
V
Mr
chair,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
again
I
I
feel
like
I'm
getting
things.
You
know
two
two
different
subjects:
whether
it's
homelessness
and
affordable
housing,
when
you
say
a
bond
you're
talking
about
affordable
housing
right,
yes,
okay
and
you're,
talking
about
building
units,
a
unit,
affordable,
housing
building
in
rehab.
But
yes,
you're
talking
about
a
bond
over
how
many
years,
15
20,
15,
20
years
done
through
the
ura,
because
it's
the
best
vehicle.
V
Well,
we'll
address
that
in
a
little
bit,
but
so
so
many
I
agree
with
that,
though.
So
so,
as
we
talk
about
a
bond,
I'm
never
one
to
accrue
debt,
a
bond
is
debt
still.
You
know
I
mean
I
know
that
generations
are
going
to
benefit
from
it
and
that's
the
purpose
and
that's
how
we
the
logic
of
having
a
bond
is
that
generations
after
us
are
going
to
be
benefiting
from
this
purchase,
but
I
just
didn't
want
to
sound
unsupportive
of
your
idea.
V
Okay,
I
there's
many
pieces
here
and
you
know
I
guess
I
was
just
kind
of
getting
everything
intermixed
with
homeless.
You
know
getting
homeless
off
the
street
and
building
affordable
housing,
we're
talking
strictly
affordable
housing,
60
million
dollars,
or
so.
A
V
A
V
V
As
councilman
burgess
was
saying
earlier,
if
we
could
make
it
affordable,
not
a
oh
boy,
we're
going
to
make
you
do
this
to
the
developers
we're
going
to
force
you
to
put
the
10
in
if
we
can
make
it
affordable
through
subsidies
like
they
do
for
the
million-dollar
places.
That
is
the
golden
ticket.
V
If,
if
a
developer
can
look
at
it
and
they
could
be
as
profitable
or
you
know,
along
the
same
profit
lines
as
the
million
dollar
penthouses,
you
know
if
we
find
that
formula,
it's
one
to
keep
and
it's
one
that
we
should
practice.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank.
O
A
Opposed
bill
650
has
received
an
affirmative
recommendation.
Thank
you,
mr
russell,
for
spending
quality
time
with
us
today,
with
that,
at
the
request
of
councilwoman
gross
and
our
president
we'll
skip
go
to
the
page
four
and
rebuild
677.
B
Bill
677
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor,
the
office
of
management
and
budget,
the
department
of
city
planning,
the
department
of
finance,
the
department
of
innovation
and
performance,
the
department
of
public
works,
the
department
of
public
safety
and
the
housing
authority
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
to
temporarily
address
the
public
health
emergency
of
homelessness
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
to
provide
for
policies
and
programs
to
address
the
lack
of
affordable
housing
and
their
consequent
contribution
to
chronic
homelessness.
As
directed
herein
until
more
permanent
solutions
can
be
implemented.
O
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
So
I
again
I
want
to
thank
council
members
for
so
much
discussion,
both
on
camera
today
last
week
and
and
off
camera,
and
your
phone
calls
and
support,
as
we
try
to
figure
out
what
it
is
we
haven't
tried
yet
right.
We
need
to
try
things
new
things,
things
that
other
cities
are
doing
working
with
the
administration
who
has
been
working
with
us
now
for
six
weeks
and
briefing
us
and
really
digging
in
on
kind
of
what
what
are
the
resources
we've
deployed
so
far?
O
How
well
are
they
working
and
where
are
the
gaps
so
we're
just
gonna
motion
to
hold
this
today,
so
that
we
can
again
work
with
the
administration
and
any
members
who
have
ideas
and
suggestions
and
we'll
bring
this
paper
back
as
soon
as
we
can.
So
we
can
all
get
started.
T
O
P
B
Bill
660
resolution
further
amending
resolution
number
863
of
2018,
effective
january
1
2019
as
amended
entitled
resolution
adopting
and
approving
the
2019
capital
budget
and
the
2019
community
development
block
grant
program
and
the
2019
through
2024
capital
improvement
program
so
as
to
reallocate
community
development
block,
grant
cares,
act,
funding
and
authorize
a
subsequent
agreement
or
agreements.
Question
two
approve
second,.
A
Discussion,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
all
right.
Any
opposed
affirmative
recommendation.
Thank
you.
So
that
will
take
us
back
to
page
three
to
bill
6510.
G
B
Bill
652
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
the
office
of
management
and
budget
to
enter
into
a
cooperation
agreement
or
agreements
with
the
city
of
pittsburgh
equipment,
leasing
authority
to
provide
for
the
leasing
of
four
pumper
trucks
at
acosta
to
exceed
three
million.
Eight
hundred
seventy
nine
thousand
eight
hundred
sixty
dollars
and
seventy
four
cents
over
seven
years.
M
Won't
be
happy
when
I'm
done
that's
good
hi.
I
just
wanted
to
know.
I
know
that
there
was
a
lot
of
concern
about
these
this
order
and
this
purchase.
There
were
stories
about
it
on
the
new
in
the
media,
about
the
purchase
and
it's
my
understanding
after
talking
to
chief
frank,
that
some
of
it
has
been
corrected.
Could
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
W
Yes,
that
original
purchase
was
canceled
and
our
money
returned
for
the
prepayment
we
went
through
chief
kakila
and
chief
jones.
They
put
together
an
entire
working
group
who
very
very
thoroughly
went
through
all
the
specifications,
probably
about
a
200
page
document
that
they
put
together
and
we
went
out
for
rfp
and
went
through
an
evaluation
process.
We
selected
the
spencer
fire
trucks
and
where
they
one
of
the
requirements
of
the
rfp,
was
to
offer
a
leasing
option.
W
We
worked
with
the
capital
team
to
determine
lease
or
buy,
and
the
decision
came
that
the
best
thing
for
the
fire
bureau
would
be
these
these
vehicles.
Just
so
you
all
know,
are
for
the
day
we
order
them
are
550
days
to
build,
so
we're
not
even
going
to
get
these
trucks
until
2024..
W
M
W
No,
there
was
some
of
the
company.
Some
of
the
companies
could
not
meet
our
step
spec
due
to
the
the
cab
size.
There
were
other
issues
of
they
could
not
get
the
poly
wheel
wells
that
we
wanted.
Another
company
just
got
a
big
order
from
nashville
and
just
said
we
don't
want
to
bid.
We
got
this
big
order,
we
don't
need
it.
So
there
were
multiple
reasons
why
spencer
was
the
only
one
there.
M
W
Absolutely
we
had
a
previous
meeting.
There
were
seven
vendors.
That
came.
You
know
we
had
a
lot
of.
P
M
P
A
I'm
sorry,
I
read
it
wrong
help
for
executive
session.
Second,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye.
M
B
M
B
A
M
You
need
a
motion.
A
N
A
M
U
That
I
said
something
yesterday
that
really
have
been
has
arrested
my
attention
for
the
last
year,
or
so
is
that
the
preamble
to
the
home
root
charter
says
a
responsible
city
is
one
which
seeks
to
ensure
that
all
the
citizens
needs
are
met,
whether
from
public
or
private
city,
county
state
or
national
sources.
A
responsible
city
is
one
which
expects
aggressive
action.
U
That
word,
responsible
city
was
not
a
it's,
not
a
it's,
not
a
phrase
that
was
used
accidentally.
It's
a
technical
term
that
really
talks
about
responsible
government
and
that
goes
way
back
to
westminster
and
that
whole
parliamentary
system
of
government,
but
what
it
really
means
for
us
is
a
government.
That's
re
accountable
to
the
citizens.
U
U
We
have
moved
for
traditionally
letting
other
people
provide
resources
to
our
communities
and
our
citizens,
and
we
have
during
our
my
span,
I've
been
proud
to
be
part
of
a
council
that
has
changed
that
that
that
paradigm
we
decided
to
invest
in
children,
and
so
we
increased
the
the
summer
youth
employment
program
so
that
every
single
child
who
applies
is
covered.
U
We
decided
to
invest
in
families
and
that's
why
we
create
the
housing
opportunity
fund
and,
most
recently,
we
as
a
council,
decide
to
invest
in
communities
and
we
create
the
stop
the
violence
fund.
And
so
you
know
this
council
has
been
moving
to
invest
in
citizens
and
invest
directly
into
community
organizations
for
the
benefit
of
our
citizens.
U
Kovic
has
showed
us,
though,
with
so
many
businesses
closed
and
so
many
organizations
struggling
that
we
have
to
do
even
more,
and
so
the
healthy
and
safe
pittsburgh
initiative
is
to
strengthen
the
health,
safety
and
well-being
of
citizens
and
communities.
That's
what
the
cdc
talks
about
the
healthy
and
safe
pittsburgh
initiative
goes
beyond
the
traditional
limited
view
of
wellness.
Instead
of
focusing
on
the
things
needed
to
create
a
strong
resilient
communities,
a
major
part
of
which
is
increasing
capacity
for
community-based
organizations,
residence
groups
and
citizens.
U
The
healthy
and
safe
pittsburgh
initiative
will
implement
programs,
practices
and
policies
to
improve
the
social
determinants
of
health.
That
means
more
than
just
the
health
in
the
traditional
sense,
but
broaden
that
health,
economic
development,
education,
social
and
community
context,
neighborhood
and
build
environments.
That's
housing!
That's
schools,
that's
after
school
programs,
so
that
it
changes
the
argument
right,
I'm
suggesting
that
everything
we
do
in
the
city.
We
should
look
at
the
health
and
wellness
of
our
residents
right
if
a
bridge
falls
down,
that's
not
safe
and
healthy
for
our
residents.
U
If
kids
are
not
in
healthy
after-school
programs,
that's
not
good
for
our
kids,
not
residents.
If
we're
not
advocating
for
public
safety
to
act
in
responsible
way,
that's
also
not
good
for
the
health
and
safety
we
want
to.
You
know
let
we
want
to
empower
our
entire
city,
and
so
that's
what
this
is.
I
won't
go
through
all
the
things
I
have
talked
to
the
mayor's
office.
They
are
supportive
and
will
work
with
me
to
collaboratively
to
implement
this.
It
is
not
by
itself
or
one-off.
U
It's
consistent
with
the
healthy
people,
230
initiative
of
the
united
nations
and
the
230
agenda
for
state
sustainable
development.
The
county,
I
think,
has
a
safe
community
model,
that's
also
consistent
with,
but
it's
us
working
together
with
all,
as
I
think
the
council
president
said
it
more
eloquently
than
I
am
about
the
homeless
issue.
We
have
to
now
do
this
in
collaboration,
but
we
must
lead
right
in
collaboration
with
the
county,
in
collaboration
with
the
state
as
a
city,
we
must
lead
these
efforts
because
our
residents
count
on
us
we're
accountable.
U
If
they
don't
have
the
resources,
they
need
we're
the
one
that
in
which
they
blame,
and
so
I'm
grateful
for
the
opportunity
to
to
submit
this.
But
I
do
think-
and
it's
the
other
thing
is:
it
will
sun.
It
was
sunset
in
2030
along,
so
it's
consistent
with
the
the
other
state,
national
and
federal
model,
and
we
can
reevaluate
it
then,
and
then
the
second
thing
that
calls
for
is
an
advisory
group
of
council,
so
that
this
initiative
is
not
done
in
isolation
that
we
bring
back.
U
Of
dhs
of
dhs,
mr
minelkin,
I
think
you
know
he's
a
rare
treasure.
I
think
people
like
that
are
still
around
and
can
help
us
to
to
to
run
this
efficiently.
So
that's
the
legislation-
and
I
think
many
of
you
probably
have
have
have
have
vocalized
your
support
and
I
think
we
can
use
this
to
push
our
city
forward.
Thank
you
very
much.
Q
P
N
D
Q
U
U
Community
health
and
safety
really
should
be
in
the
public
safety
department
and
be
two
parallels
offices,
but
what
they
do
is
emergency
crisis
management
stuff.
They
are
in
the
they're
in
the
communities
helping
homeless,
they're
in
the
communities,
doing
drug
rehabilitation
they're
in
the
communities
partnering
with
the
police
to
do
specific
programs,
prevention
programs,
they're
doing
direct
things.
This
is
not
that
this.
N
U
More
of
a
policy
perspective
of
of
creating
of
putting
resources
and
community-based
organizations
to
give
them
resiliency
to
plan
policies
to
plan
programs
to
help
them
write
grants
it
is
not,
is
not
at
all
one-on-one
crisis
management
at
all.
So
it's
doing
something
completely
different
that
no
one
else
in
the
city
is
doing.
There's.
There's
no
group
that
I
know
of
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh:
that's
providing
technical
resources
or
capacity
building
to
community-based
organizations
or
to
individual
citizens
or
bringing
together
groups
of
people
to
say.
U
Q
U
So
this
differently,
health
and
safe
is
the
overall
goal
of
what
we
want.
We
want
the
communities
to
be
healthy
and
safe,
and
and-
and
I
got
the
title
really
from
the
cdc-
that's
the
three
things-
it
says:
that's
the
goal
of
of
health
in
and
they
define
it
as
health,
safety
and
well-being.
We
want
every
citizen
in
every
community
to
be
healthy,
safe
and
good
well-being.
U
I'm
not
opposed
to
changing
it,
but
it's,
I
think
it's
my
opinion.
It
is
an
overarching
theme,
that's
consistent
with
the
best
practices
of
the
state
and
the
federal
in
the
in
the
united
nations,
and
so
it's
had
many.
You
know
we
thought
of
many
titles
before
it
was
the
one
that
we
thought
makes
the
most
sense,
but
I'm
willing
to
to
talk
about
that
between
now
and
tuesday.
If,
if
you
know
see
what
makes
sense,
okay.
M
So
I
thought
we
were
holding
for
a
post-agenda
public
hearing,
so
I'll
abstain.
Today,
until
I
have
a
chance
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
more
in
depth
about
it,
because
I
really
would
like
to
know
not
only
how
it
affects
other
efforts
in
the
city,
I
wonder
how
it
affects
us
and
our
counseling,
and
governing
and
things
that
we're
supposed
to
be
elected
to
do
on
our
own
and
represent
the
area.
So
I
just
wonder
how
it
affects
yeah.
Okay,.
B
P
C
V
Real
quickly,
I
just
had
a
conversation
with
chief
jones
and
and
ralph
zecora.
I
initially
was
thinking.
Oh,
this
is
so
you
know
we
could
keep
the
boat
out.
P
V
V
No
okay,
so
so
chief,
would
you
just
explain
for
the
members
as
to
you
know
what
this
shelter,
the
purpose
of
it.
V
Okay,
so
it's
fairly
new,
I
mean
when
we're
talking
about
boats,
the
cost
of
that
boat.
I
can't
remember
exactly.
V
Half
a
million
dollars,
so
this
really
is
to
protect
our
half
a
million
dollar
investment
throughout
the
seasons
that
we
have
it
on
the
water,
because.
X
V
Know
water
from
being
a
roofing
contractor,
nothing
damages
doesn't
matter
if
it's
a
boat
doesn't
matter.
If
it's
a
house
nothing's
more
damaging
than
water,
hitting
it
not
to
say
it
still
won't
get
wet.
X
Our
electronics
and
the
interior,
so
this
is
something
that's
going
to
help
it
last
right
and
the
shelter.
V
South
side,
marina,
okay,
it
won't
enable
us
to
leave
it
there
year
round,
it's
still
going
to
need
to
be
pulled
when
the
inclement
weather
comes
right.
Okay,
that's
it
for
me!
Thank
you,
madam
president,.
M
X
X
It's
not
the
most
busiest
unit
I
have,
but
we
responded
to
everything
from
jumpers.
We've
actually
gone
out
of
the
city
to
assist
like
the
major
fire
they
had
last
year
at
neville
island.
It
is
a
regional
asset
as
that
we
use
it
for.
P
X
M
So
one
other
thing
I
want
to
ask
aside
from
the
boat
the
firehouse
that
the
it's
a
trailer
for
kids
like
to
how
to
escape
a
fire
yeah.
X
X
We
have
a
very
robust
program
right
now:
master
firefighter
lisa
epps
been
leading
the
charge
as
our
pub
ed
specialist.
That
is
something
that
is
on
the
list,
but
it's
not
at
the
top
of
the
list
for.
M
Brand
new,
but
it
really
is
really
important
and
maybe
that's
something
children's
hospital
or
you
know
this.
You
know
some
of
the
funds
that
they
have
the
non-profits
that
have
so
many
foundations
with
the
universities
and
others.
Maybe
that's
something
they
could
pitch
in,
for
I
mean
one
or
two
of
those
across
the
city
are
really
needed.
I
think
thank
you.
I
think
that's
all
I
want
to
add.
Thank
you.
N
X
Fire
boat
has
a
unique
and
very
sophisticated
electronic
sweep
for
not
only
sonar
but
down
sonar,
but
also
side
scanning
sonar.
It
has
radar
capabilities.
X
It
is
capable
of
pumping
about
4,
000
gallons
per
minute
to
supply
fire
units
that
are
on
land,
so
it
enables
us
to
use
our
three
rivers
as
an
additional
water
source.
Just
to
put
that
in
perspective,
4
000
gallons
per
minute
is
the
equivalent
of
two
very,
very
good
hydrants.
You
probably
have
a
hard
time
finding
a
hydrant
capable
of
putting
out
2,
000
gallons
per
minute
for
alarm.
X
It
is
for
high
risk,
low
frequency
incidents
if
we
have
a
major
derailment
along
the
river
where
our
rail
lines
go
and
we
need
massive
amounts
of
water,
it
can
provide
us
that
it
can
probably
provide
us
water
into
the
off
from
the
river,
probably
two
to
four
blocks,
maybe
depending
on
the.
X
There
it
is
a
very
sophisticated
and
piece
of
equipment-
and
you
know,
being
the
second
largest
inland
port
in
the
country
and
not
to
have
any
fire
suppression
capabilities.
X
That
is
that's
a
significant
deficit
that
we
had
and
this
helps
fill
in.
Q
N
X
Q
O
Thank
you
chief
when
we
discussed
this
before.
I
remember
you
mentioning,
I
didn't
hear
you
say
at
this
time,
but
also
with
the
fire
suppression
capacity
and
being
able
to
draw
river
water
to
add
to
any
crises.
It
was
especially
since
we're
kind
of
building
up
our
river
fronts
right,
and
so,
when
you're
talking
about
the
residential
facilities
on
the
river's
edge
and
the
buildings
down
there,
it
would
be
able
to
provide
additional
size.
Fire
suppression,
yeah.
V
So
you
just
answered
one
of
my
questions
I
had
earlier
into
what
councilwoman
gross
was
just
saying:
the
distance
capability
we,
we
do
have
say,
for
instance,
a
casino.
You
said
two
to
four
blocks.
What
are
we
talking
feet
wise.
X
It
depends
there's
so
many
variables
involved
with
that
when
pumping
elevation
loss
friction
loss
right.
So
I
I
really
couldn't
tell
you
that,
but
the
casino
is
close
enough.
V
It's
good
to
go
good
good
and
thankfully
we
haven't
had
to
use
it.
You
know.
No,
I
think
one
of
the
things
people
don't
realize
and
I
haven't
seen
it.
It's
may
speak
to
the
safe
boaters
and
the
abundant
boaters
and
the
educated
voters
that
we
have
very
often
in
other
cities.
I
see
fires
among
passenger
boats.
You
know
which
you
think
on
the
water,
oh
boy.
How
could
that
happen?
Well,
it
happens
and
a
boat
goes
up.
Just
like
a
old
rickety
wooden
house,
correct.
V
X
Get
so
doing
our
our
recreational
events
on
the
river
kenny
chesney
concert
fourth
of
july
celebration.
Things
like
that
where
people
even
right
now,
I
guess
getting
ready
for
tomorrow's
backyard
brawl.
There
have
been
people
docking
and
they
continue
to
dock
out
and
then
of
course,
they're
cooking
out
and
the
alcohol
is
flowing
and.
X
It's
you
know,
nothing
can
go
wrong
there
right,
but
we're
ready
for
those
type
of
events
and
those
are
relatively
rare
that
we
have
those
most
of
the
time.
People
are
very
careful
with
that.
So
we've
had
a
couple:
small
recreational
boat
fires
right,
but
nothing
major
right
and.
V
You
also
said
sonar,
meaning
if
we're
looking
for
a
drowning
victim
yeah,
you
have
that
capability,
yes
and
you
work
in
conjunction
with
the
paramedics.
I
guess
with.
X
You
yes
well,
we've,
because.
X
They're
the
same,
the
the
river
rescue
is
consists
of
ems
with
the
paramedics
and
the
police.
Now
their
new
boat
also
has
side
scanning
sonar,
but
a
family
looking
for
a
loved
one.
That's.
P
X
You
know
you
want
to
put
as
many
resources
on
that
as
you
possibly
can,
and
so
we
will
work
in
conjunction
with
them.
They
could
do
one
side
of
the
river.
We
can
do
the
other.
V
Right
and
right
right,
so
we
have
two
capable
boats
with
sonar,
one
that
works
with
emergency
medical
services,
one
that
works
strictly
with
the
fire
department
and
just
to
clarify
the
the
water
that
we
have
to
use,
or
we
would
use
from
the
fire
boat
is
of
course
drawn
straight
from
the
river.
Yes,
okay,
okay,
okay,
so
it's
more
than
just
putting
out
fires.
We
don't
want
to
use
it
because
we
don't
want
to
have
to
use
it
for
that,
but
it's
searching
for
victims.
V
It's
aiding
people
who
are
in
distress
on
their
boat
and
you
know,
can.
X
Especially
one
of
the
largest
concerns,
like
I
said
we
are,
we
move
more
product
through
the
city
of
pittsburgh
on
our
rivers
than
baltimore,
which
is
an
international
seagull
airport,
all
kinds
of
hazardous
materials
and
everything
else.
Industrial
materials
come
on
our
rivers
and
we
need
to
be
ready
for
that
right.
V
Right,
okay
and
one
final
thing
I
want
to
say
about
chief
jones
here,
you
know.
First
of
all,
I
have
full
confidence
in
what
you
do
with
the
department.
A
fellow
from
my
district
pulled
me
over
and
said
you
know
what
he
said.
I
had
a
flat
tire
on
mcnealy
road,
which
I
know
you
live
in
the
district,
and
I
know
you
travel
that
often
pulled
over
on
his
way
to
work
and
helped
and
assisted
the
the
the
this
this
man
changing
his
tire.
Did
you
not?
Is
you.
C
A
P
B
Thousand
595
dollars
and
22
cents
by
amending
the
title
of
the
resolution
and
increasing
the
allocation
for
the
not
to
exceed
amount
of
one
million,
four
hundred
twelve
thousand
three
hundred
twenty
eight
dollars
and
twenty
seven
cent.
An
increase
of
four
hundred
thirty,
eight
thousand
seven
hundred
thirty
three
dollars
and
five
cents.
A
M
Just
want
to
thank
the
administration,
councilman
called
hillsbow
for
continuing
of
this
effort.
For
the
this
is
going
to
be
a
community
center.
It's
also
going
to
be
where
we
keep
our
archives
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
a
small
section
section
will
be
used
for
district
2,
nonprofits
organizations
and
possibly
a
little
museum
for
district
two.
It's
a
big
building,
that's
67
000
square
feet,
so
I
want
to
thank
the
administration
for
continuing
with
this
is
really
important
to
the
community.
So
thank
you.
V
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
clarify
the
fable
of
chief
jones.
You
know
coming
to
the
rescue
my
chief
of
staff
blake
is
listening
in
and
he
sent
me
a
message,
and
this
is
where
I
got
it
from.
I
guess
you
know
I
kind
of
got
it
mixed
up.
He
said
he
helped
me
years
ago
when
my
car
battery
died
on
pioneer.
This
was
like
a
decade
ago,
so
so.
P
K
B
Bill
634
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
the
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure
to
apply
for
a
grant
from
the
pennsylvania
department
of
community
and
economic
development,
multi-module
transportation
fund
for
the
homewood
sidewalks
improvement
project
and
further
providing
for
an
agreement
and
expenditures
not
to
exceed
one
million.
Nine
hundred
twenty
one
thousand
five
dollars
and
seventy
three
cents
motion.
V
Discussion
second
discussion:
councilman
carter.
Yes,
I've
often
said
you
know.
I
wish
we
could
finance
and
take
care
of
our
sidewalks
and
our
sidewalks.
And
for
me
you
know
when
I
drive
through
dormont
and
mount
lebanon,
you
know
they
have
beautiful
sidewalks,
they
take
care
of
them.
It's
not
the
property's
owner
responsibility.
V
S
Good
morning,
everybody,
yes,
this
is
the
first
time
we've
ever
applied.
Just
for
strictly
sidewalks
majority
of
the
projects
we
approached
for
is
a
street.
It's
such
a
streetscape
project,
like
you
were
saying
before,
like
for
books
on
boulevard,
we
do
the
street
and
we
also
do
sidewalks.
This
one
is
just
for
the
sidewalks.
V
So
jeff
are
there
lucrative
grants
out
there
abundant
amount
of
grants
out
there?
Where
we
could
you
know,
and
why
did
we
pick
this
specific
neighborhood?
I
was
wondering:
can
you
answer
both
those
for
me?
Please.
S
Sure,
there's
not
a
lot
of
grains,
unfortunately,
for
when
there
is
available
we
have
it
applied
and
pretty
successful.
So
that's
what
this
resolution
is
just
to
apply
for
the
grants.
I
believe
this
one
came
out
of
the
homewood
study
that
we
did
a
couple
years
ago
and
it
was
able
to
give
us
a
direct
corn
or
direct
sidewalks
of
where
they're
gonna
be
located
before
replacement.
S
V
Okay
and
the
two
million
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
how
many
feet
of
sidewalk
does
that
replace.
S
I
don't
have
it
direct
how
many
feets,
but
I
have
a
couple
streets.
It's
going
to
be
upwind
streets,
kedron
street,
north
lane
and
north.
I
don't
have
exactly
the
how
many.
V
Right,
I
would
love
to
see
you
know,
grant
for
my
carrick
and
beach
view
in
specific
brookline
was
done,
part
of
as
as
a
bigger
project
and
again
this
is
the
first
time
I've
heard
of
any
funds
being
available
that
we
could
solicit
for
strictly
sidewalks.
So
I
would
encourage
to
find
more
of
them
at
least
for
the
main
boulevards.
You
know,
as
is
what
I'm
really
talking
about
to
begin
with.
M
I
just
want
to
say
I
think
we
all
have
that
same
issue
and
councilwoman
gross
has
really
been
leading
the
charge
in
a
lot
of
areas
involving
the
sidewalks
and
even
looking
at
recycling
yeah
yeah,
and
so
there
was
all
sorts
of
things
that
yeah
we
were
looking
at.
I
think
it's
I.
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
take
it.
We're
hearing
that
our
people
that
are
disabled
are
not
able
to
navigate
these
sidewalks
the
way
they
are,
and
we
keep
saying
it's
the
responsibility
of
the
homeowner.
M
Then
we
say
we
can't
find
the
homeowner
and
you
know,
there's
just
a
whole
big
vicious
cycle,
and
I
think
we
really
have
to
take
on
this
project
in
some
way,
even
if
we
just
do
so
many
every
year,
just
when
we
do
paving,
we
have
to
do
something
doing.
Nothing
is
not
working
for
a
disabled
community.
Q
Let
me
see
this
is
director
dr
skalkin.
I
just
had
a
question
to
to
kind
of
focus
this
this
conversation
or
really
just
just
so.
I
get
on
a
better
understanding
of
this,
so
this
one's
a
grant,
but
we
have
a
critical
sidewalk
program.
Q
Okay,
does
it
apply
for
a
grant
how
much
funding
is
in
the
the
critical
sidewalk
program.
A
O
Sorry,
it's
been
a
very
long
meeting
I'll
try
to
be
brief,
but
I
do
appreciate
that
the
administration
is
working
on
critical
sidewalks.
It
really
is
just
to
kind
of
you
know
summarize
the
frustrations
that
residents
have
is
that
we
are
all
ex
you
know
forcing
constituents
to
pay
for
residents
have
to
repair
sidewalks,
but
we
issue
the
citations.
If
the
sidewalks
are
not
in
perfect
conditions
right
and
then
the
constituent
has
to
bear
the
cost
of
replacing
that
sidewalk
and
then
we
required
that
they
be
concrete
and
concrete.
O
You
know
way
many
many
decades
ago,
I'm
sure
when
this
requirement
was
created
was
far
cheaper
than
it
is
now
concrete
is
actually
one
of
the
more
expensive
things
that
we're
having
supply
problems
with
and
the
price
keeps
going
up.
Some
number
of
years
ago,
council
increased
the
amount
of
reimbursement.
I
think
it's
only
up
to
eight
dollars,
a
square
foot
that
we
embrace
to
you.
O
So
there
is
equity
issues,
I
believe
not
only
in
providing
sidewalks,
as
we've
heard,
bernadette
come
and
elevate
this
conversation
for
us
for
public
comment,
and
who
can
you
know
that
the
sidewalks
be
usable
for
for
equity,
for
people
who
are
trying
to
get
places
on
the
sidewalks,
but
also
in
in
who
is
bearing
the
cost,
and
so
I
I
logged
the
administration
for
looking
at
how
some
sidewalks
maybe
need
our
attention
and
thank
you
to
councilman
smith
for
reminding
me
that
I
did
a
post
agenda
on
sidewalk
materials,
probably
almost
eight
years
ago,
maybe
at
least
seven
years
ago,
and
I
would
be
happy
to
bring
back
that
conversation
so
that
we
can
explore.
O
You
know
what
materials
are
better
for
our
environment
for
stormwater
capture
which
we're
so
concerned
about.
We
had
testimony
about
pervious,
paving
it's
been
quite
a
few
years
now,
and
there
are
cities
that
have
moved
ahead
and
would
be
great
lessons
learned
for
us,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
talking
more
about
it
and
I'm
supportive
today.
P
B
Bill
635
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
the
director
of
the
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure
to
receive
grant
funding
from
the
pennsylvania
department
of
transportation
to
complete
a
stoplight
removal
study
in
the
amount
of
96
thousand
dollars
in
authorizing
expenditures.
For
this
stated
purpose.
P
B
636
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
the
director
of
the
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure
to
receive
grant
funding
from
the
pennsylvania
department
of
transportation
to
replace
the
stoplight
at
the
corner
of
brighton
and
jacksonia
in
the
amount
of
195,
990
and
60
in
authorizing
expenditures.
For
this
stated
purpose
motion.
M
B
Bill
637
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
the
director
of
the
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure
to
receive
grant
funding
from
the
pennsylvania
department
of
transportation
to
replace
the
stoplight
at
the
corner
of
braddock
and
forbes
in
the
amount
of
471
375.82
and
authorizing
expenditures.
For
this
stated
purpose.
B
A
B
M
A
B
Bill
638
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
director
of
the
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure
to
apply
for
a
grant
from
the
pennsylvania
department
of
community
and
economic
development's
multi-modal
transportation
fund
for
the
south
21st
street,
complete
green
street
project
and
further
providing
for
an
agreement
and
expenditures
not
to
exceed
one
million.
Thirty,
six
thousand
four
hundred
and
twenty
two
dollars.
B
A
B
A
P
G
B
P
B
B
Bill
663
resolution
amending
resolution
number
715
of
2021
for
the
mayor
and
the
department
of
permits,
licensing
and
inspections
to
enter
into
an
amended
agreement
or
agreements
with
avenue,
insights
and
analytics
to
digitize,
microfiche
and
aperture
cards,
holding
historic,
permitting
data
and
add
them
to
the
department's
digital
library.
The
extension
of
this
agreement
will
add
an
additional
year
of
services
and
22
354.86
of
compensation.
B
A
A
lot
of
discussion,
councilman
gross.
O
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
I
am
putting
forward
this
bill
to
explore
accessory
dwelling
units.
It
is
just
a
resolution
that
is
requesting
a
report
back
from
the
administration
on
barriers
or
and
opportunities
across
the
city.
O
These
are
backyard
houses
right,
and
so
that's
the
technical
term
in
our
zoning
code
is
accessory
dwelling
units
because
it
only
applies.
If
there's
already
someone
living
on
a
parcel
in
the
city
right
in
a
home
and
then
it
would
be
adding
a
second
living
unit,
so
maybe
an
attic
apartment
or
basement
apartment
or
a
garage
apartment,
or
even
a
second,
entirely
separate
structure
in
the
backyard.
O
This
is
kind
of
in
the
category.
As
I
mentioned
when
I
discussed
the
limited
equity
housing
co-ops,
it's
one
of
those
I
new
ideas
or
old
ideas.
That's
new
again
right.
What
is
old
is
new.
What
is
new
is
old.
My
district
is
full
of
accessory
dwelling
units,
but
when
they
were
built
they
weren't
called
accessory
dwelling
units.
It
was
just
the
house
that
you
built
in
your
backyard,
maybe
for
your
own
cousins,
maybe
for
your
next
door,
neighbors
cousins.
O
So
if
you
go
in
bloomfield,
for
example-
and
you
turn
off
liberty
avenue-
and
you
go
in
any
of
the
alley
streets,
they
it's
fully
lined
it's
an
entire
residential
street
in
what
was
built
originally
just
to
be
the
alley.
In
the
back
of
the
front
house,
tenth
ward,
lawrenceville,
full
of
valley
houses
right
natrona
way
in
lawrenceville
stateway
in
bloomfield.
O
They
are
lined
with
houses
and
they
are
technically
accessory
dwelling
units
and
the
problem
with
what
exists
now
in
city
code
that
didn't
this
zoning
code
didn't
exist
at
the
time
when
those
houses
were
built.
Is
that
you're
not
allowed
to
build
them
you're
just
flat
out
not
allowed?
You
can
get
a
variance
and
I've
had
multiple
constituents
do
that.
O
In
both
cases
it
was
to
take
care
of
mom
right
and
so
in
a
lot
of
cities
they
call
them
granny
flats,
and
so,
both
in
morningside
and
in
highland
park.
The
constituents
were
forced
to
spend
many
many
weeks
to
get
signatures
from
neighbors
to
have
public
testimony
to
hire
architects
and
have
site
plans.
Go
through
an
expensive
review
process
literally.
O
Have
a
public
hearing
at
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
and
have
to
get
a
positive
vote
from
the
zoning
board
of
appeal,
so
it's
a
burdensome
process
to
an
old
solution
to
more
people
wanting
to
move
into
your
neighborhood,
so
many
cities.
In
fact,
many
states
now
have
have
permitted
these
structures:
statewide,
california,
new
hampshire,
vermont,
oregon,
rhode,
island,
it's
they're
now
permitted
everywhere.
O
So
but
again,
this
is
just
the
beginning
of
a
conversation
so
that
council
can
have
more
facts
in
front
of
it
and
so
we're
giving
the
administration
a
few
months,
they're
eager
to
talk.
We
already
have
a
meeting
set
up
with
the
with
the
office
of
management
budget
and
the
department
of
city
planning
and
permits
licenses
and
inspections.
O
I'd
like
to
draw
your
attention
to
just
one
part
that
other
cities
have
explored
that
I'm
particularly
excited
about,
which
is
that
they
asked
their
building
permits
or
permits
licenses
and
inspections
department
to
pre-select
designs
that
would
be
automatically
permitted
so
that
you
don't
have
to
hire
an
architect.
You
don't
have
to
have
the
blueprints
drawn
up.
You
don't
have
to
have
that
upfront
expense,
so
it
dramatically
lowers
not
just
the
red
tape
of
applying
to
have
to
add
housing
on
your
property,
but
also
makes
a
readily
available
path
to
doing
that.
O
So
I'm
really
excited
about
that
part.
I'm
looking
forward
to
what
the
administration
kind
of
explores
and
reports
back
to
council-
and
I
I
hope
that
council
supportive.
Thank
you.
V
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Permit
me
you
have
interrogatory
with
councilman
gross
on
this.
I
guess,
because
I
really
want
to
rehash
our
private
conversations.
We
had
behind
closed
doors,
so
my
district,
you
know,
understands
a
few
things.
V
First
of
all,
you
always
get
my
attention
when
you
talk
about
building
or
building
something
as
a
builder
and
a
contractor,
you
know
it's
just
my
antennas
go
up,
I
guess,
but
to
be
clear.
This
legislation
at
this
point
is
just
simply
an
in-depth
look
at
identifying
possibilities
and
looking
at
other
models
that
cities
have
done
to
possibly
put
this
into
effect,
so
we
are
not
approving
for
little
homes
to
be
built
in
backyards.
At
this
point
we're
this
is
an
in-depth
investigation
right.
O
O
And
it
it
asks
a
series
of
questions
for
the
administration
to
come
back
with
that.
Also,
all
members
kind
of
have
the
same
report
and
the
public
has
the
same
report
in
front
of
them.
Where
do
where
do
these
things
already
exist
in
the
city?
Are
there
you
know
what
are
the
costs
and
permit
fees
associated?
P
V
So
I'm
very
interested
in
this
I
happen
to
think
my
district
will
welcome
this,
but
I
do
have
a
few
questions
about
the
housing
itself
and
you
touched
on
cutting
the
red
tape
permits.
You
know
things
of
that
nature
which
I
know
it
prevents
people
from
building
a
deck
in
my
district.
Okay,
so
to
build
a
dwelling-
and
you
know
to
have
a
house
there,
that's
going
to
be
vitally
important,
I
feel,
and
if
we
could
cut
that
red
tape,
you
know
it's.
V
It's
certainly
welcomed
by
anybody
who's
building,
but
also
we
look
at
this
and
we
could
look
at
this
as
a
source
of
revenue
for,
say
you
know
an
elderly
couple
or
anybody
who
has
the
land
mass
or
you
know
the
property
to
do
so.
You
know
this
could
be
another
source
of
income,
so
I'm
just
going
to
throw
out
numbers
at
you,
and
I
know
none
of
these
are
you
know
concrete,
but
say
it
costs
fifteen
thousand
dollars
to
build.
One
of
these.
You
know
alley
homes.
V
I
guess
maybe
that's
not
the
proper
word,
but
you
know
kind
of
backyard.
You
know
dwellings
at
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
You
know
say
you
finance
that,
and
you
charge
it,
and
this
is
this-
is
the
part
I
really
like
about
it.
It
almost
ties
into
affordable
housing,
and
it
does
so
in
a
way
bringing
the
private
market
into
it,
and
that
to
me
is
just
one
of
the
jigsaw
pieces
of
puzzle
that
you
always
talk
about
with
affordable
housing.
So
I
see
two
things
here.
V
I
see
an
extra
source
of
income
for
folks
who
are
looking
for
it,
and
you
know-
and
I
would
imagine
one
of
these
places-
I'm
envisioning
really
small,
because
it's
in
your
backyard
say:
let's
just
use
500
as
a
round
figure
place
costs
you're
15
to
build
you're.
You
know
getting
500
a
month,
you're
getting
six
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
rent.
V
So
in
the
third
year
you
start
making
a
profit,
and
you
know
it's
like
having
a
real
estate
actually
and
and
to
provide
that
extra
income
for
some
families,
I
think,
would
be
great
to
you-
know,
give
the
private
sector
the
ability
to
build
their
own.
Affordable
housing
is
even
better
yet.
So
I
did
have
a
question
about
the
sword.
Lines
would
and
you're,
probably
not
too
far
in
this
but
pwsa.
When
I
look
at,
I
have
a
garage,
you
have
a
room
built
on
the
back
of
my
garage.
V
It
would
be
easily
converted
for
me,
I'm
not
interested
in
this,
but
I'm
just
using
it
as
an
example
to
be
easily
converted.
For
me,
however,
I
would
say
the
bulk
of
the
cost
would
be
tapping
into
our
sewer
lines
and
getting
the
plumbing
there.
Do
you
know
of
any
cities
who
have
models
where,
especially
if
we're
using
it
specifically
towards
affordable
housing,
where
say,
pwsa
can
come
in
and
give
a
you
know,
break
councilman.
O
O
By
tuesday-
but
I
think
I
know
what's
happened,
you
know
100
years
ago,
because
I
have
so
many
of
these
alley-
houses
really
a
significant
number.
I
have
one
of
our
state
representatives,
representative
morado.
I
don't
think
would
be
embarrassed
to
say
she.
She
lives
in
one
of
these
alley:
houses
in
lawrence
avenue
and
10th
ward.
Excuse
me
my
during
these.
O
O
The
original
water
main
to
the
to
the
original
house,
so
absolutely
this
is
the
kind
of
fact
finding
that
we
will
need.
So
we
should
ask
pwsa
about
how
the
added
laterals
can
be
permitted
and
what
would
be
the
approximate
cost.
V
I
think
that's
an
excellent
question
because
for
me
that
would
be
the
challenge.
I
already
have
the
space
I
already
have
it
built
and
but
I
know
my
water,
my
sewage
goes
out
front
of
the
house
and
we're
talking
100
feet
here
and
I
think
wow
I
haven't
priced
that,
but
it's
going
to
be
more
than
the
actual
little
home
that
I
build.
I
or
you
know
make
into
I
you.
You
touched
on
this
regulation,
different
sizes
and
models
to
me.
V
O
O
Adus
are
how
that
is
one
of
the
ways
that
can
happen
right
so
there's
ways
that
we
can
help.
People
continue
to
afford
to
live
where
they
want,
because
either
they
become
the
renters
or
they
become
the
landlords
right.
So
they
have
maybe
rental
income
from
the
accessory
dwelling
unit.
In
other
cases,
it's
mom
and
dad
moving
into
the
smaller
dwelling
in
the
back
and
either
having
rental,
renters
or
family
in
the
front.
O
So
it
becomes
a
really
great
tool
for
some
families
to
retain
that
family
asset
to
retain
the
family
house
and
in
their
explorations
it
actually
again.
You
know
we'll
have
lots
of
more
time
to
talk
about
this,
since
this
is
just
a
report
and
recommendation
to
council,
but
we
will
have.
There
are
elements
of
equity
right.
O
It's
there
are
wealthier
neighbors
and
residents
who
are
able
to
navigate
all
of
the
barriers
that
we
have
put
in
place,
having
site
plans
having
architects
having
the
construction
costs,
having
the
kind
of
burden
of
regulatory
processes,
and
so
you
see
in
cities
where
there
have
been
studies.
O
You
see
that
there
are
more
of
the
adus
when
there
are
regulatory
barriers
like
we
have,
there
are
more
of
them
in
wealthier,
neighborhoods
right
and
so
those
those
households
are
gaining
the
rental
income
right
and
the
the
neighborhoods
and
households
that
do
not
have
these
resources
are
not
able
to
access
this
value
this
way
to
add
value
to
their
property.
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
here
to
explore
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
that.
V
And
I
look
forward
to
the
fact-finding
mission
and,
if
it
I,
I
truly
believe
this
model
would
work
in
pittsburgh
because,
as
you
said
in
the
past,
it
was
part
of
pittsburgh
still
is
in
your
your
district.
I
believe
again,
I
like
two
things
about
it.
I
I
like
the
fact
that
somebody
can
look
at
this
as
extra
income,
for
you
know,
years
to
come,
and
on
top
of
all
that,
you
know
if
you're
making,
you
know
six
thousand
dollars
a
year.
V
Extra
income,
we'll
use,
also
increases
the
value
of
your
property
and
the
value
of
your
home.
When
you
have
another
dwelling
on
there,
providing
it,
you
keep
it
in
good
shape,
but
the
other
factor
that
I
really
like
is
this
is
really
could
tap
in
and
be
a
piece
of
the
puzzle
for
you
with
affordable
housing
and
isn't
that
really,
what
or
part
of
the
big
reason
what
drives
you
towards
this.
O
Absolutely
so
we
have
again
trying
to
put
as
many
irons
in
the
fire
as
we
can
right.
We
know
that
inclusion,
arizona
is
not
going
to
solve
all
of
our
affordable
housing
needs.
We
know,
even
if
we
did
photobond
and
do
new
construction,
it's
not
going
to
fill
it
quickly
enough,
and
so,
let's
just
examine
where
maybe
we're
putting
up
barriers
and
if
we
can
remove
those
barriers.
Let's
do
that.
V
I
feel
like
you're
in
in
this
fashion
that
we're
putting
the
affordable
housing
we're,
given
the
ability
for
private
homeowners
to
produce
affordable
housing
and
again
another
piece
of
the
pie.
I
know
you're
counting
units
as
you
go
on
every
year
and
if
we
can
add,
you
know
100
units
a
year
by
doing
it
this
way
fantastic.
So
so
I
know
other
members
have
questions,
but
in
closing
I
just
want
to
say
this
with
all
the
work
you
do
around
affordable
housing,
I'm
speaking
to
you,
of
course,
councilwoman
gross.
V
You
know
inclusionary
zoning
co-ops,
helping
me
with
burke
place
up
in
carrick.
You
know
I
just
can't
help
but
to
think.
Wouldn't
you
be
a
perfect
fit
to
be
on
the
ura
board,
and
I
know
councilwoman
cale
smith
brought
that
up
before
and
you've
talked
about
it
many
times
and
we
also
have
councilman
lavelle
on
that
board,
which
I
know
he
represents
very
well
and
is
very
astute
at
what
he
does.
V
I
would
love
to
see
another
council
member
on
the
ura
board
and
you
know
I
just
feel
that
councilwoman
gross
would
be
the
perfect
fit
there
and
I'm
not
asking
you
to
answer
this
question
by
the
way
I
don't
want
to.
You
know,
put
you
on
the
spot
by
any
means,
but
you
know
I'm
just
looking
at
it
as
kind
of
like
say
a
football
coach
that
I
used
to
be
right.
You
put
the
best
person
in
a
position
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
the
two
girls
were
you.
V
Hand,
you
know
with
the
work
that
the
work
that
she
does
around
affordable
housing
and
housing
in
general,
not
just
affordable
housing.
You
know,
I
just
feel
it's
a
perfect
match
and
I'm
not
sure
the
politics
as
the
ura
board
goes.
I
know
mr
lavelle
probably
is,
I
know,
there's
five
members,
but
but
I
feel
we
need
to
get
her
on
the
ura
board.
So
again,
I'm
not
asking
you
to
respond
to
that.
I
didn't
want
to
put
you.
O
O
But
then,
over
the
years
I
want
to
say
that
it's
we
know
that
as
a
city,
we
cannot
just
provide
affordable
housing
in
our
lowest
resource
neighborhoods,
because
the
supreme
court
of
the
united
states
said
so
right.
So
we
are
to
in
all,
cities
are
supposed
to
to
do
what
they
can
everything
they
can
to
put
affordable,
housing
and
neighborhoods
of
opportunity,
and
I
consider
the
neighborhoods
that
I
represent
all
of
basically
all
of
it
to
be
neighborhoods
of
opportunity,
meaning
there's
access
to
resources.
O
There's
plentiful
transit,
there's,
plentiful
food
options,
there's
access
to
schools.
These
are
the
kinds
of
neighborhoods
where
people
can
have
lives
that
they
succeed.
But
it's
hard
to
do
because
you're
competing
with
a
very
stiff
competition
from
the
private
real
estate
market
nationwide.
Private
equity
dumping,
millions
of
dollars
into
acquiring
those
parcels
into
building
that
housing,
and
so
it's
like
you're
in
a
wrestling
match
every
day,
and
so
it
takes.
O
K
K
If
she'll.
Allow
me
to
I'd
like
to
add
my
name
as
a
co-sponsor
to
these
bills
and
and
support
heartily
yeah.
I
would
just
reiterate
what
has
already
been
said
one.
I
don't
think
this
is
just
you
know
a
possibility
of
a
part
of
the
affordable
housing
conversation.
It
is
an
integral
part
of
it,
and
you
know
it's
not
just
because
some
people
might
only
be
able
to
afford
buying
a
house
if
there's
an
adu
attached
to
it.
K
It's
also
for
people
to
be
able
to
access,
affordable
housing
in
an
adu
in
a
neighborhood
that
has
very
large
plots
of
land,
and
maybe
there's
so
much
pushback
in
that
neighborhood
that
you
know,
high
high-rise
apartment
buildings
or
condo
units
aren't
going
to
be
built
anytime
soon,
or
maybe
it's
not
appropriate
they're.
Currently
under
our
zoning
code
like
this,
is
a
form
of
low-density,
moderate
density,
affordable
housing
that
could
be
utilized
in
in
all
parts
of
town.
K
I
love
the
fact
that
it's
tied
into
aging
in
place
as
well
in
california,
where
I
grew
up
and
where
it's
there's
a
lot
less
red
tape.
I
know
of
three
families,
just
in
my
little
circle
there,
where
the
folks
who
are
who
are
my
parents,
age,
who
are
aging
or
moving
into
the
adu
selling
their
home
to
their
adult
children
and
can
still
be
a
family
unit
but
on
the
same
property
and
retain
that
that's
wealth,
building
for
the
younger
generation
as
well.
V
M
Yeah
I
would
like
to
be
at
it
as
a
sponsor.
I
also
want
to
thank
councilwoman
gross,
and
I
do
want
to
just
add
very
quickly
that
the
more
money
we
send
over
to
the
ura,
the
more
I
think
that
we
need
to
have
more
than
one
council
person
on
the
euro.
Thank
you.
Councilman
laval
does
an
amazing
job
and
someone
thank
you
for
your
work
on
there,
but
I
also
want
to
think
that
it'd
be
helpful
to
have
more
than
one
person
there,
and
I
think
we
really
shouldn't
be
sending
that
much
money.
M
If
we're
not
going
to
have
somebody
watching
it
other
than
one
member,
I
think
we
need
to
have
have
multiple.
M
We
can't
keep
using
the
ura
and
other
ways
to
send
money
and
use
our
money
across
the
city,
trust
funds,
everything
else
without
those
things
coming
back
to
city
council,
for
without
us
having
some
oversight,
and
that's
just
my.
I
really
feel
strongly
that
we
have
to
have
we're
here
to
watch
the
dollars
and.
P
M
Q
Yeah,
I
think
this
is
a
great
a
great
bill.
In
particular,
I
was
just
having
a
conversation
with
a
family
member
that
lives
in
another
city,
and
they
were
talking
about
the
troubles
that
they're
having
with
an
adu.
Q
You
know
getting
the
variance
and
everything
correct
and
it's
a
much
larger
city
than
our
than
ours,
and
so
thanks
for
your
efforts
on
this
and
I'd
like
to
be
as
a
co-sponsor
as
well.
P
P
O
You,
mr
chair,
so
the
the
administration
is
making
progress
on
this.
One
I'll
note
that
this
is
one
of
the
things
that,
because,
as
I
was
mentioning
much
much
earlier
in
this
very
long
meeting,
city
planning
is
really
understaffed
and
continues
to
lose.
People
lost
my
neighborhood
planner
just
last
week
to
the
private
market,
and
so
we
were
giving
them
a
little
time,
but
once
again,
we've
had
operators
of
limited
equity,
co-ops
reach
out
to
us.
I've
had
conversations,
I've
had
resources
and
referrals.
O
I
have
more
meetings
coming
up,
so
I
feel,
like
the
most
of
the
questions,
have
been
answered,
but
we're
giving
the
administration
a
little
more
time
to
kind
of
wrap
it
up,
so
that
it's
ready
and
a
full
report
back
to
council
we're
just
changing
the
date
here
to
october.
A
O
Q
Q
It's
a
resolution
of
endings.
Okay
got
you.
A
So
all
those
in
favor
aye
aye
any
opposed
firms
of
recommendation.
Thank
you
for
I
was.
I
was
thinking
of
something
else.
I
apologize
innovate
that
moves
us
to
innovation,
performance
and
asset
management
committee
chaired
by
councilman
strasberger.
Our
first
new
paper
is
bill.
656.
B
A
K
M
M
Could
you
tell
me
why
we're
doing
this,
because
it
was
my
understanding
they
wanted
to
remove
a
council
member
position
on
then
I
said
no,
so
I'm
wondering
how
it
got
on
here
now
and
who
they
intend
on
cutting.
M
P
A
B
Bill
645
resolution
adopting
the
plan
revision
to
the
city
of
pittsburgh's
official
sewage
facilities,
plan
for
the
hillman
library
expansion,
a
commonwealth
of
pennsylvania
property
project,
which
will
involve
the
construction
of
an
addition,
interior
renovations,
exterior
renovations
and
site
improvements
to
the
hillman
library.
The
site
address
is
3960,
forbes
avenue.
Fourth,
ward.
O
O
G
B
646
resolution
adopted
I'm
sorry
resolution
authorizing
the
mayor
and
the
director
of
the
department
of
mobility
and
infrastructure,
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
to
enter
into
a
cooperation
and
reimbursement
agreement
with
the
pittsburgh
water
and
sewer
authority
to
reimburse
expenses
of
pwsa
incurred
for
roadway-based
and
pavement
restoration
performed
by
pwsa
on
behalf
of
utilities
and
the
city
in
advance
of
the
bus
rapid
transit
project
at
an
amount
not
to
exceed
five
hundred.
Fifty
seven
thousand
two
dollars
and
twenty
four
cents
motion
to
approve.
Second.
K
P
A
Any
opposed
affirmative
recommendation
that
exhausts
our
agenda
for
today
we
do
have
a
few
meeting
announcements.
Next
week.
Offices
will
be
closed
on
monday
september
5th
in
observance
of
labor
day
next
week,
council
will
hold
our
regular
and
standing
committee
meetings
at
10
a.m.
On
tuesday
september
6
and
wednesday
september
7th,
respectively,
speaker
registration
closes
at
9,
00
am
tuesday
and
wednesday
mornings
to
register.
Please
fill
out
the
sign
up
form
on
the
council
meeting
webpage.
You
may
also
call
the
city
clerk's
office
at.
M
A
couple
things
yesterday
we
mentioned
that
we
would
form
a
committee
to
work
with
the
administration,
the
county
and
anybody
that
we
need
to
address
the
homelessness
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
I'm
going
to
appoint
councilman
gross
councilman
wilson
councilman
coghill
and
have
one
more
seat
open
for
remember.
If
anybody's
interested,
you
know,
let
me
know
and
then
we'll
work
with
ricky
moody
and
others
to
make
sure
that
we
address
the
this
in
a
way
that
we're
getting
all
the
right
people
at
the
table
and
there's
a
lot
of
people.
M
I
know
that
we
have
to
bring
to
the
table
and
with
with
that
said,
I
also
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
number
of
policing.
It's
my
understanding
that
our
numbers
are
down
quite
a
bit
and
councilman
coghill,
and
I
had
some
meetings,
and
I
mean
it's
getting
to
a
point
where
it's
concerning,
not
that
I
understand
that
there
might
be
different
directions,
that
people
want
to
go
with
policing
but
leaving
the
communities
with
very
few
people
actually
reporting
to
the
zones.
M
In
some
cases,
some
of
the
most
dangerous
zones
having
very
low
numbers-
and
I
think
what
I'm
understanding
is
we're
going
to
pay
some
of
our
new
officers.
Some
of
them
are
new,
recruits
and
correct
me
because
I
know
you
have
a
lot
more
information
than
I
do
and
we'll
ask
councilman
cross
to
work
on
this
when
he
returns.
M
But
I
deal
with
you
too,
but
I
it's
my
interesting
that
we
have
a
lot
of
young
officers
on
the
streets
working
a
lot
of
forced
overtime
and,
if
that's
the
case,
people
with
guns,
tired
and
exhausted
working.
A
lot
of
overtime
is
not
always
a
great
combination,
and
so
I
think
that
it's
a
conversation
that
you
and
I
councilman
coghill
want
to
have,
and
I
think
that
it's
also
something
councilman
krauss
will
address.
As
he's
becomes
the
chairperson
of
public
safety.
May
I
please.
V
It's
up
to
the
mr
chairman,
so
I
would
say
it's
beyond
concerning
to
me:
it's
almost
alarming
at
this
point
the
position
that
we're
going
to
be
in
if
we
continue
down
this
same
road.
Okay,
I
think-
maybe
perhaps
we
should
move
that
post
agenda
to
a
point
where
we
can
all
talk
about
it
and
lay
out
the
facts.
I
want
this
council,
I
want
my
district.
V
I
want
the
public
to
know
the
situation
we're
in
before
it
becomes
alarming
and
before
it
becomes
a
real
problem
to
the
city
of
pittsburgh,
so
I
thank
you
for
bringing
it
up.
Madam
president,
I
thank
you,
for
you
know
having
the
meetings
that
we've
had
to
clarify,
and
you
know
you
know,
get
the
the
details
and
the
facts,
but
I
look
forward
to
sharing
those
with
this
council
and
with
the
public.
M
You
know
director
historic
and
previous
people
that
were
here
and
and
people
here
today
I'll
meet
them
occasionally
for
coffee
or
lunch
or
whatever,
and
I
was
meeting
with
director
history,
former
director
of
historic
at
the
time
and
you
called
and
asked
if
we
could
meet
with
ewan,
and
so
I
mean
I
was
surprised
to
hear
the
conversation,
because
you
know
I
didn't
realize
it
was
as
serious
as
as
it
may
be,
and
so
I
I
do
believe
that
the
administration
is
working
on
some
things.
M
I
just
think
we
would
like
to
know
what
those
things
are.
Council
needs
to
be
included
in
some
of
those
conversations.
So
you
know
we
haven't
had
a
chairperson
for
that
committee,
but
now
we
do
so.
I
think
that
will
help
us
get
some
some
better
answers
too,
but
we'll
get
the
meetings
scheduled.
The
postage.
V
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
bringing.
M
U
U
U
Cattle
corner
to
that
is
south,
plain
breeze,
which
is
in
erica's
district
now,
but
will,
I
think,
be
in
mind
moving
forward
so
in
my
district
will
be
these
two
corners
that
are
perpendicular
to
each
other
on
the
one
side
has
the
lowest
life
has
won
the
lowest
life
expectancy
of
any
neighborhood
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
Larmer
has
won
the
low
lowest
percentage
of
life
expectancy,
not
only
in
the
city
but
in
the
county
right
across
the
street.
U
U
So
I've
never
been
a
fan
of
affordable
housing
by
itself.
What
you
need
is
a
comprehensive
strategy
to
rebuild
neighborhoods.
You
use,
affordable
housing
on
the
front
end
mixed
income
housing
so
that
you
bring
in
city
resources
to
provide
the
groundwork,
but
to
wrap
around
that
you
need
market
rate
housing.
You
need,
because
you
need
the
income
of
those
people
to
be
able
to
afford
the
restaurants
and
the
the
theaters
and
the
drugstores
and
the
cleaners
that
every
neighborhood
deserves
and
needs
to
have.
U
U
U
And
I
think
the
reason
that
and
I've
been
I've
spent
the
last
three
months
intensively
studying
this
public
health
thing.
I
think
what
makes
it
interesting
of
using
the
public
health
approach
is
we're
not
saying
that
that
poor
communities
need
investment
because
they're
poor
they
do,
but
that's
not
what
we're
saying
anymore,
we're
not
saying
that
poor
communities
need
investment
because
they're
black
because
of
discrimination.
That's
true,
but
that's
not
that's,
not
the
argument.
U
What
we're
not
saying
that
the
we're
not
saying
that
that
poor
communities
and
black
communities
need
investment,
because
you
know
if
equity
is
the
right
thing
to
do
that.
It
is
that's
not
it.
What
the
cdc
has
now
taught
us.
U
Without
what
my
argument
now
is,
I
think
they're
right
we
have
to
make
every
community
healthy,
every
citizen,
healthy
every
community
has
a
right
to
be
healthy
and
what
does
it
take
to
be
healthy?
Well,
it
may
take
more
housing.
Yes,
it
may
take
drug
stores,
it
may
take
after
school
programs
and
I'm
going
to
suggest,
maybe
because
I've
been
reading
it
so
much.
But
I
and
in
the
legislation
I
introduced
today
and
where
I
will
be
advocating
for,
is
that's
really
what
we
should
be
doing
now
as
a
city
is.
U
We
can
coordinate
it
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
every
community
needs
to
be
healthy,
safe
and
high
quality
of
life
every
every
ever,
every
community,
every
single
community,
and
so
what
we
do
is
we
go
into
communities
and
say:
okay,
how's
your
quality
of
life,
and
if
you
have
everything
you
need
well,
you
may
you
have
nine
of
the
ten
things
you
need
this
one
thing.
Well,
let's
help
you
do
this
one
thing
and
we
go
into
communities
and
say
here
are
the
ten
things
and
there's
you
have
one
of
them.
U
Let's
help
you
with
the
nine
you
don't
have
that.
I
I
think
we,
I
don't
think
we
this.
I
think
the
focus,
although
I
do
I,
I
represent
the
largest
poorest
communities
in
pittsburgh.
I
do.
I
represent
the
poorest
largest
black
communities
in
pittsburgh,
but
I
have
not
advocated
for
them
in
isolation.
U
My
my
goal
is
at
pittsburgh
where
everybody
prospers
when
we
start
talking
about
a
city
for
all.
I
don't
know
how
long
ago.
U
Every
everybody
everybody
and
I
and
I
think
council
should
be
lifted
up.
I
think
I
I
support.
Every
every
person
in
the
city
of
christopher
should
be
lifted
up,
and
I
think
we
have
a
moment
in
history
because
of
kovic
has
taught
us
that
if
we
don't
lift
them
up,
there
will
be
another
pandemic.
There'll
be
another
economic
turn
down.
There's
going
to
be
all
these
other
stresses,
let's
put
off,
let's
put
our
time
and
energy
of
thinking
about
how
the
whole
city
becomes
healthier.
U
If
the
whole
city
becomes
healthier
than
my
kids,
your
kids,
every
kid
has
a
better
quality
of
life.
I
say
that
because
I
don't
say
that
I
don't
have
a
chance
to
say
that
all
the
time,
so
I
I
support
affordable
housing
as
simply
an
initial
strategy
for
community
rebuilding,
but
you
have
to
accompany
affordable
housing.
U
Hopefully
that
is
mixed
income
with
other
other
housing,
other
investments
private
dollars
in
order
to
regenerate
these
communities
so
that
they
are
completely
healthy,
safe
and
have
a
high
quality
of
life
or
well-being,
as
the
cdc
says,
and
I'm
sorry
to
take
that
time.
But
I
wanted
to
sort
of
lay
out
my
real
vision,
because
I
don't
want
to
be.
I
don't
want
to
be.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
that
affordable
housing
is
simply
the
city's
investment
to
try
to
get
the
private
market
that
right
now
does
not
fund
black
communities.
U
Right
now
does
not
fund
black
people.
That
right
now
is
is
discriminatory
in
their
practices.
We
are
23
percent
of
the
population
and
we
get
in
8
of
the
loans,
the
private
market.
The
banks
are
discriminating
in
in
open
sight
against
black
people
and
black
communities.
But
if
the
city
invest
in
these
poorer
communities,
we
can
now
like
larmor.
We
can
coax
the
private
dollars
into
those
same
communities
because
we
need
community
transformation
every
community
deserves.
U
If
I
take
you
to
homewood
today,
there's
no
sit-down
restaurant
in
homewood,
there's
no
drugstore
in
homewood,
there's
no
clothing
store
in
homewood,
there's
almost
no
place
to
get
fresh
vegetables
in
homewood.
There
is
only
one
gas
station
right
now
in
all
of
homewood.
That's
hung
on
east,
that's
on
itself,
north
and
west,
and
that's
on
the
last
pizza
parcel
on
homewood
on
fifth
avenue,
where
a
thousand
people
go
to
from
pittsburgh
from
oakland
to
fox
chapel
every
day,
and
it's
only
in
that
corner.
U
U
Doesn't,
though,
those
kids
deserve
to
live
long
lives,
should
they
should
would
they
live
doom
them
to
die
at
an
early
age,
or
should
we
be
investing
in
those
communities
so
that
those
children
can
live
the
same
quality
of
life
and
the
same
life
expectancy
as
people
in
squirrel
hill
and
southside
flags
and
and
and
any
other
district
in
the
city?
And
so
my
I'm,
I
think
we
can
and
we
know
how
to
do
it.
U
The
interesting
part
of
all
this
work
councilman
level-
and
I
talk
about
this-
is
we
know
how
to
do
it
now.
The
question
isn't
how
to
do
it.
We
know
exactly
how
to
do
this
now.
We
know
exactly
how
to
do
it.
We
know
we
know
how
to
invest
in
it.
We
know
how
to
do
it.
The
question
is:
will
there
be
the
political
will,
both
locally
state
and
federal,
to
provide
the
resources
to
invest
in
these
communities
and
we
will
work
collaboratively
because
you
know
theresa
knows
she.
She
teases
me,
but
she
does.
U
U
Now
the
mayor,
all
of
us,
the
county
executive,
the
state
reps,
the
all
of
us,
got
to
work
together
to
build
all
of
these
communities
so
that
we
become
the
city,
that's
on
the
shining
hill,
that
we
become
the
city
for
all
that
we
become
what
we
can
become
and
we're
at
that
moment
of
time
with
resources
and
expertise
that
we
actually
can
begin
to.
Do
this
that's
too
long.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
indulgence.