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A
Hello
good
morning
welcome
to
the
september
meeting
of
the
housing
opportunity
fund
advisory
board
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
It's
normal
protocol
that
we
start
each
meeting
with
public
comment.
As
of
this
morning,
we
did
not
have
any
registered
public
commenters.
A
So,
let's
move
on
forward
with
roll
call.
C
E
F
F
A
G
B
A
First
action
is
to
review
and
accept
the
minutes
from
the
august
6
2020
meeting.
Did
everyone
get
a
chance
to
review
the
minutes?
H
I
just
have
a
modification
to
section
c.
I
arrived
during
the
fair
housing
presentation
and
I
think
we
acknowledged
that
when
we
noticed
that
derek
had
also
joined
the
meeting.
Okay.
A
We'll
make
sure
we
add
that
in
there
with
the
modification,
can
somebody
make
a
motion
to
approve.
A
A
Okay,
so
today
is
a
little
bit
unusual
because
we
don't
actually
have
other
done
improving
the
minutes,
voting
items
for
today,
so
today
we're
going
to
spend
some
time
on
some
policy
issues
that
advisory
board
has
asked
about
over
the
last
couple
months
and
I'll
also
talk
about
our
existing
programs
and
the
status
and
then
also
talk
about
the
2021
allocation
plan.
A
I
would
also
like
to
say
that
when
I
was
calling
roll
you
may
have
noticed,
we
have
three
new
members
that
I
would
like
to
welcome
to
the
advisory
board.
So
paul's
bradley
is
with
dollar
bank
paul.
Would
you
like
to
introduce
yourself
just
20
seconds
about
yourself.
I
Sure
I'll
take
15
seconds,
I'm
dr
paul
david
spradley,
I'm
from
pittsburgh.
I
live
in
the
south
hills
and
I
have
two
viewers
who
that's
what
I
do
for
fun
these
days.
I
work
for
dollar
bank
as
their
assistant
vice
president
of
diversity,
equity
inclusion.
Before
that
I
was
in
higher
education,
making
sure
that
students
graduated
and
I'm
happy
to
be
on
this
committee.
A
Thank
you.
Welcome
and
and
paul
fills
the
legislated
seat
of
the
lending
seat,
so
so
welcome
paul
oliver
beasley.
C
Good
morning,
oliver
beasley
policy
analyst
with
the
mayor's
office
equity,
very
excited
to
be
a
part
of
this
advisory
board
and
just
looking
forward
to
how
I
would
be
able
to
help.
A
Great,
thank
you.
Oliver
and
oliver
does
take
majestic's
place.
Majestic,
has
stepped
down
with
the
expiration
of
his
term,
so
thank
you.
Oliver
and
james
meyer.
F
Sure,
thank
you
so
just
a
quick
reading,
my
name
is
james
myers
jr.
I
am
the
director
of
community
and
business
development
at
riverside
center
for
innovation.
F
I
sit
as
one
of
the
commissioners
with
the
equal
opportunity
review.
Commission
just
excited
to
be
here
excited
to
work
with
everybody
around
the
table
and
look
forward
to
contributing
to
the
betterment
of
pittsburgh
community.
Also,
you
know
hill
district
resident
pittsburgh
boomerang
and
excited
to
you
know,
take
some
steps
moving
forward.
A
Thanks
james
and
as
the
hill
district
resident
james
fills
the
central
neighborhood
seat
on
the
advisory
board.
Diamante
walker,
who
did
previously
fill
that
seat,
is
staying
on
the
advisory
board,
but
she
is
moving
over
to
the
ura
seat
on
device
report.
So
this
is
the
first
time
that
we,
for
I
think
about
a
year
and
a
half
that
we
have
a
full
advisory
board
of
all
17
legislative
members
or
slave
members
in
the
legislation.
So
I'm
super
excited
about
that,
which
means
we
moving
forward.
A
We
do
need
a
quorum
of
nine,
which
is
half
to
be
able
to
do
any
voting.
Okay.
So,
first
today
we
would
like
to
start
with
some
follow-ups
from
the
fair
housing
presentation
that
was
conducted
by
the
fair
housing
partnership
last
month
and
I'm
going
to
pass
it
over
to
adrian
wanahal,
an
advisory
board
member
to
facilitate
this
discussion.
A
J
J
So
we
wanted
to
have
some
time
this
morning
to
talk
about
the
presentation
from
our
last
meeting.
So
I'd
like
to
actually
start
out
with
folks
reactions,
we
had
a
really
nice
overview
that
was
provided
and
I
think
some
pretty
provocative
items
were
presented.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
that
went
through
the
meeting,
both
with
the
presenter
and
then
followed
through,
as
we
were
discussing
other
agenda
items.
E
I
have
a
comment
so,
first
of
all,
I
thought
it
was
a
very,
very
powerful
presentation,
a
lot
of
the
information.
I
was
aware.
E
Were
some
things
I
was
not
aware
of,
and
I
think.
K
E
Will
actually
be
very
beneficial
for
the
the
new
advisory
board
members
to
partake
in,
and
you
know
seeing
that
so
if
we
could
help
facilitate
that.
E
One
thing
I
mentioned
last
meeting
was
having
ongoing
engagement
with
them
to
ensure
that
the
fair
housing
thinking
is
implemented
into
our
policies
and
our
decision
making
going
forward.
So
just
wanna,
you
know,
make
sure
we
we
really
consider
that.
J
That's
a
perfect
kickoff
derek
because
that's
actually
one
of
the
agenda
items
for
today
to
figure
out
our
strategy
to
make
sure
that
we
are
doing
that
so
first,
if
we
kind
of
put
this
through
the
lens
of
how
we
can
connect
with
the
fair
housing
partnership
and
how
we
can
use
information
related
to
fair
housing
and
equity,
our
racial
disparities
and
income
demographics,
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
had
talked
about
in
the
group
was:
what
is
the
data?
How
do
we
get
the
data?
J
A
Adrian,
if
I
could
jump
in
just
super
quick
and
give
just
a
bit
of
a
summary
of
the
data
that
we
have
seen
the
last
couple
of
months
for
the
new
advisory
board
members,
a
few
months
ago,
we
had
a
presentation
from
the
cmu
create
lab
that
they
looked
primarily
at
the
racial
divisions
between
homeownership
rates
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh
and
looked
at.
They
showed
some
some
pretty
eye-opening
maps
related
to
the
number
of
people
that
have
applied
for
mortgages.
A
The
number
that
have
been
accepted,
the
ones
that
have
been
turned
down,
and
they
showed
all
that
by
geography
in
the
city
and
also
by
race.
That
was
primarily
what
their
focus
was
and
then
last
month.
What
what
adrian
you
know
just
mentioned
then
and
is
talking
about
right
now-
is
the
fair
housing
partnership,
which
is
a
non-profit
entity
that
advises
folks
on
fair
housing.
A
They
went
through
the
different,
fair
housing
classes,
but
then
they
also
talked
about
what
they
are
seeing
on,
primarily
in
the
in
the
homeownership
arena
as
well,
but
they
they
also
talked
about
the
rental
as
well.
So
those
are,
those
are
the
presentations
the
advisory
board
has
seen.
The
ura
also
has
some
other
market
related
data
that
we
can
talk
about
at
some
point
and
some
policy
linked
data,
but
those
are
the
resources
that
we
we
have
talked
about
today.
I
Jessica
will
we
will
the
new
members
be
able
to
see
the
the
presentation
it
was
that
recorded
as
well?
Is
that
something
that
we
could
view
and
have
access
to
the
the
documents.
A
Yes,
it
was
recorded,
you
can
access
it
on
the
city's
youtube
because
it
was
recorded,
but
we
we.
I
will
also
try
to
get
you
the
presentations,
the
powerpoints
themselves.
D
J
So
some
items
of
information
that
I
know
we've
talked
about
in
the
past.
Maybe
we
can
start
there
so
having
the
information
as
a
board,
one
of
the
items
that
we've
talked
about
consistently
since
our
inception
is
thinking
through
neighborhoods
neighborhood
need
and
neighborhood
impact.
So
do
all
members
of
the
board
feel
that
they
have
a
deep
and
rich
sense
of
what
the
city
of
pittsburgh
looks
like
demographically
from
an
income
perspective
from
a
race
perspective
from
a
percentage
of
homeowners
versus
renters?
C
Absolutely
it's
especially
the
homeowners
versus
renters
income
and
the
other
stuff
is
probably
more
easily
accessible,
but
homeowners
versus
renters.
For
myself,
I
don't,
I
don't
necessarily
know
the
know.
The
overview
numbers.
J
E
And
more
specifically,
the
you
know
the
racial
demographics,
you
know
so
really
how
everything
we
do
is
impacting
the
african-american
community
there's
plenty
of
studies
that
show,
as
well
as
the
fair
housing
partnerships
presentation.
So
I
think
just
more
specifically
honing
on
not
just
data.
That's
you
know
broad
and
says
minority,
but
specifically,
you
know
how
decisions
etc.
G
I
think
it's
important
to
have
a
sense
of
what's
going
on
in
each
of
the
neighborhoods,
for
you
know
baking
properties,
vacant
vacant
buildings
and
getting-
and
you
know
maybe
there's
a
couple
of
different
data
markers
you
might
be
able
to
use
to
see
what
change
is
happening
and
having
that
data
over
time.
G
So
you
can
see
the
change.
I
think
one
of
the
real
powerful
things
we
got
from
the
original
housing
affordability
study
was.
It
was
a
power
it
could
be
put
into
a
powerpoint
slideshow
that
showed
a
factor
that
the
reinvestment
fund
used,
for
example,
before
housing,
affordability
with
rents,
and
it
showed
from
2000
to
2015
year
by
year.
G
It
just
showed
what
the
what
the
affordability
crisis
was
where
it
was
happening.
It
gave
you
a
good
sense
of
location,
specific
data
that
was
useful.
B
Yeah
link
mark
over
the
years,
we've
talked
a
lot
at
action,
housing
about
how
useful
it
would
be
to
have
sort
of
a
data
into
like
an
early
warning
system
for
market
change,
because
it
as
soon
as
a
market
takes
off.
It
gets
really
hard
to
do
an
affordable
housing
project
exactly
when
neighborhoods
need
long-term,
affordable
housing
so
and
we
we've
met
with
oxford
about
it,
and
we
like
talked
about
using
different
indicators
and
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
in
the
mba,
that's
useful.
But
how
do
we
track
market
data
in
like
real
time?
B
So
we
can
see
where
you
know.
Housing
prices
are
really
going
up.
Rent's
going
up
and
people
are
at
risk
of
displacement
because
that's
the
perfect
time
to
invest
once
it's
happened.
It's
almost
it's
not
too
late,
but
it
makes
it
so
much
harder,
as
you
can
see
in
lawrenceville
and
east
liberty,
and
a
lot
of
places
where
we've
seen
this
change.
B
D
Yes,
I
would
also
like
to
add
that,
like
the
first
off,
I
think
that
the
fair
housing
presentation
was
great.
You
know.
Part
of
the
purpose
is
to
not
have
segregated
neighborhoods
and
to
like
really
integrate
community.
So
I
think
that
we
also
want
to
identify
what's
going
on
in
that
capacity.
D
However,
I
know
that
that's
the
one
of
the
main
purposes
of
fair
housing
partnership
is
to
ensure
that
communities
are
integrated
so
that
you
don't
have
an
all
black
community
in
all
white
community
and
all
section
8
housing
go
into
one
type
of
community
and
there's
mobility
studies
that
have
been
done,
and
I
know
that
at
the
housing
authority
we're
doing
some
work
around
that
as
well
as
dhs
and
some
other.
You
know
the
county
housing
authority.
Things
like
that
as
well.
D
Trying
to
like
use
incentives
to
have
you
know:
housing
like
landlords,
accept
people
with
vouchers
in
their
different
neighborhoods.
So
I
think
that
stuff,
like
that's
important
for
us
to
at
least
know.
H
I
don't
know
if
this
is
necessarily
within
our
purview,
but
I'm
also
curious
about
the
resource
of
our
neighborhoods.
There's
enough.
My
personal
opinion
is
that
the
problem
is
more
about
the
resource
that
black
neighborhoods
are
historically
resource,
deprived
than
that
they
are
black
neighborhoods,
for
example,
we
just
don't
pour
as
much
resources,
not
everybody
around
this
table,
but
just
generally
as
a
society
into
communities
that
are
all
black.
H
So
if
everybody
has
the
opportunity
to
live
in
a
resource
neighborhood,
regardless
of
its
racial
makeup,
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
something
that
we're
able
to
control,
but
something
that
I
would
also
like
to
put
on
the
table
as
part
as
part
of
our
fair
housing.
H
Correct
so
we
I
think
we
had
talked
a
little
bit
last
meeting
about
how
sometimes
people
who,
for
example,
grew
up
in
the
hill
want
to
stay
in
the
hill.
They
just
would
like
to
have
more
resources
directed
towards
the
hill
district
and
there's
nothing
wrong
with
saying
hey.
I
grew
up
in
this
neighborhood
I
would
like
for
it
to.
I
would
like
to
continue
to
live
in
this
predominantly
black
neighborhood.
I
just
want
a
grocery
store
and
other
things,
and
that
that
should
be.
H
E
Kelly-
and
I
would
just
add
to
that
under
the
resources-
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
something
we
can
facilitate,
but
I
think
we
should
try
also
jobs,
report,
jobs
and
business
opportunities,
because
a
lot
of
these
issues
are
connected
to
the
economic
issue.
You
know
so:
access
to
jobs
and
access
to
business
opportunities
in
in
these
same
communities,
kind
of
seeing
an
overlay,
but
also
jobs
and
opportunities.
E
You
know
for
folks
that
live
in
that
community,
like
maybe
trans
transitioning,
to
downtown
et
cetera,
seeing
the
link
between
you
know
jobs
not
being
available
to
them
and
how
that
connects
and
overlays
with
everything
else.
E
E
J
So
for
me
that
leads
to
two
two
different
questions:
one
of
them's
here
on
the
slide
and
I'm
going
to
save
the
fair
housing
partnership
for
the
end
of
our
conversation.
But
we
have
now
two
two
issues.
As
I
see
it
when
we're
thinking
about
the
information
that
we
want.
First,
we
need
to
know
where
to
get
that
information.
J
J
So
if
we've
missed
key
data
providers
in
our
brief
conversations
so
far
this
morning,
that
are
really
raising
and
percolate
percolating
to
the
top
of
your
head
right
now,
if
we
want
to
take
a
couple
minutes
to
discuss
where
those
sources
might
be,
I
think
dhs
was
also
raised.
E
So
I
would
just
reiterate
who
who's
already
presented
to
us
and
their
presentations
were
very
data
rich.
So
I
forgot,
I
think,
with
cmu
data
labs,
their
org,
that
organization
fair
housing
partnership.
I
think
starting
right.
There
makes
perfect
sense.
I
would
just
add,
I
know
the
university
of
pittsburgh,
I'm
not
sure
which
department,
maybe
policy
and
something
they've
done.
Various
studies
over
the
years
that
have
also
been
very
impactful.
So
I'll
add
them,
but,
starting
with
the
other
two
I
think
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
H
Their
center
for
race
and
social
problems,
they
probably
have
a
lot
of
the
data
yeah.
H
Looking
for
knowledge,
I
don't
know
if
we
listed
the
housing
authority,
but
I
would
imagine
you
guys
have
the
data
on
a
lot
of
what
we're
looking
for
in
terms
of
section
8
acceptance
and
all
of
that
sort
of
thing.
D
Yeah
we
do
and
wr
what
is
it
there's
another
organization,
western
pennsylvania
resource,
something
but
yeah
I'll.
We
have
some
of
the
data.
M
G
G
I
was
going
to
say:
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
with
cdfi's
with
the
reinvestment
fund
and
they've
got
a
tool
called
policy
map
that
has
an
extraordinarily
extraordinary
amount
of
data
and
I'll
speak
with
amanda
high
there
to
to
you
know,
see
get
some
data
lists
and
things
like
that,
but
they've
got
a
tool
that
anybody.
If
you
google
policy
map,
you
can
there's
a
lot
of
housing
data
and
census
level.
Data.
M
That's
yeah,
that's!
Actually.
What
I
was
going
to
mention
mark
is
that
the
ura
uses
policy
map
as
well,
but
also,
I
know,
neighborhood
allies.
I
was
just
in
a
meeting
with
them.
A
week
ago,
they're
using
this
new
tool
called
my
sideblock,
which
is
similar
to
policymap,
but
has
other
really
interesting.
Data
sets
so
we're
partnering
with
them
in
their
their
initiative
to
kind
of
move
forward
with
that
and
create
some
neighborhood
neighborhood
level
snapshots
of
what's
going
on
throughout
the
city.
L
L
You
know
having
a
closer
examination
and
also
so
we
built
this
property
in
this
community,
but
who
rents
it
up.
You
know,
what's
the
follow-up,
how
do
we
know?
You
know
what
the
racial
demographics
are
for,
the
people
that
actually
get
this
housing
so
just
some
kind
of
longer-term
report
back
loop
that
we
have
with
our
funding
fundies.
J
G
J
K
B
H
J
J
I
think
of
beltsover,
and
there
was
a
ura
supported
project
for
home
ownership.
How
long
did
those
houses
stay
on
the
market
and
why
who
applied
for
that
housing?
Why
was
it
not
something
that
could
be
followed
through
with
and
executed
on,
so
you
know
getting
that
that
picture
exactly.
As
you
said
joanna
you
know,
specific
projects,
people's
project
level,
data
that
we
could
use
in
some
ways
to
decision.
J
J
J
So
I'd
like
to
just
spend
a
couple
of
minutes
talking
about
how
do
we
want
to
receive
this
information?
Do
we
want
a
more
passive
model
where
we
receive
packets
of
information
that
we
do
self-learning?
Do
we
want
board
time
dedicated
to
this
information?
Do
we
want
presentations
during
our
meetings
outside
of
our
meetings?
H
I
like
to
review
things
in
advance,
but
I
know
that
that
interacting
with
it
is
generally
helpful
with
other
folks
hearing
people's
thoughts
and
sometimes
a
presentation,
but
it's
nice,
if
I
have
it
either
beforehand
or
afterwards
to
let
it
wash
over
me
either
again
or
let
our
dialogue
be
the
second
time
that
I'm
interacting
with
that
information.
So
for
me
personally,
that
would
be,
for
my
learning
style
would
be
would
be
best.
L
J
E
So
I
would
say,
having
working
meetings
with
you
know
some
of
these
organizations
that
focus
on
this
data.
So
when
we're
talking
about
the
allocation
plan
etc,
having
them
actually
evolve
involved
in
a
working
meeting,
you
know
will
be
very
helpful.
Presentations
are
always
powerful.
E
You
know
to
me-
and
I
think
this
was
mentioned,
but
personal
stories
from
people
who
have
been
impacted,
personal
testimonials,
our
personal
testimonials
from
people
who
are
actually
in
need
is
actually
one
of
the
most
powerful
forms
of
data
that
we
can
get,
and
that
would
also
help
us
with
implementing
this
and
understanding
the
lens
through
which
we
make
decisions.
J
I
think
that's
a
great
comment,
derek
in
the
midst
of
our
larger
conversation
about
programs,
there's
programs
and
there's
people
and
then
there's
this
giant
gap
in
between
how
do
we
make
the
program
responsive
to
the
human
experience?
Because
if
it's
not,
if
it's
not
aligned
and
it's
not
accessible,
then
we're
not
serving
anyone.
E
B
I
guess
there's
a
question
of
if
we
want
specific
data
indicators
when
we
get
a
project
presentation.
So
if
there's
a
rental
gap
project
being
proposed
in
the
neighborhood,
do
we
want
to
see
what
certain
indicators
look
like
in
that
neighborhood?
I
think
the
ura
staff
does
a
great
job
with
lots
and
lots
of
data
about
the
project
and
the
score
about
the
project,
but
do
we
want
them
to
also
make
a
recommendation
about
the
surrounding
area?
B
That
would
help
us
compare
where
our
investment
is
going
and
I
can
see
how
that
would
work
for
rental
gap.
I
think
some
of
the
other
and
for
the
single
family
housing,
some
of
the
less
real
estate
ones
are
harder,
but
that
would
that
would
bring
data
into
our
decision-making
process
versus
being
more
of
like
a
contextual
presentation.
So
I
don't
know
how
you
guys
feel
about
that.
N
Yeah
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
I
would
recommend
that
we
start
to
look
at
are
the
social
determinants
of
health
and
how
the
work
that
we're
doing
here
might
be
impacted
by
those
factors.
Housing
doesn't
happen
in
a
vacuum.
You
know
it's
it's
a
one
piece
in
the
broader
context
of
somebody's
life
in
a
neighborhood
in
a
community,
so
I
think
that,
starting
to
bring
some
of
that-
and
I
agree,
the
qualitative
data
becomes
so
important.
N
We
have
a
lot
of
quantitative
studies
that
tell
us
there's
a
problem:
we're
not
hearing
the
human
centered
stories
that
tell
us
what
it
feels
like
to
actually
experience
those
things
and
what
tenable
solutions
might
be
to
empower
folks
to
solve
their
own
problems.
So
I
don't
want
us
to
be
in
the
habit
of
thinking
that
the
ura
is
a
silver
bullet,
that
the
hof
is
a
silver
bullet.
People
need
to
be
empowered
to
start
to
make
decisions
that
are
going
to
propel
their
lives
forward
from
an
economic
standpoint,.
J
N
J
Right,
so,
just
in
just
a
couple
of
minutes,
so
the
fair
housing
partnership,
we
have
continually
said
that
what
the
fair
housing
partnership
brings
to
the
table
is
incredibly
valuable
and
it's
part
of
the
dialogue.
It's
not
a
passive
presentation
that
stops.
It's
really
integrated
into
what
we're
doing
so.
I
love
derrick
that
you
brought
up
this
concept
of
working
meetings
where
partners
are
engaged
actively
and
presently,
and
everyone
is
dialoguing.
H
Absolutely
go
ahead.
Kelly
go
ahead.
No!
It's
going
to
say.
I
absolutely
think
that
fair
housing
should
be
an
integrated
part
where
I'd
say
even
a
foundational
piece,
maybe
not
even
like
a
top
layer
of
everything
that
we
do,
and
I
mentioned
before.
H
I
know
we're
in
the
process
of
crafting
our
our
bylaws,
but
that
we
should
we've
mentioned
before
having
committee
work,
and
I
think
that
this
is
an
excellent
opportunity
to
bring
in
potentially
other
folks
on
these
committee
levels
that
we're
getting
stuff
done
in
between
meetings
as
well
and
getting
a
broader
cross-section
of
the
community
and
and
folks
engaged
in
our
work,
and
so
I
would
that
would
be.
H
My
recommendation
would
be
that,
in
addition
to
baking
in
fair
housing,
we
consider
bringing
them
on
to
whatever
committees
we
we
create,
where
it's
appropriate.
N
L
J
Well,
thank
you
everybody.
I
know
that
this
went
a
little
bit
long,
but
I
think
it's
powerful
and
I
really
appreciate
everyone's
active
participation
in
the
dialogue
and
there's
more
to
come.
Thank
you
adrian.
N
O
Sure
so
I
think
if
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
we're
going
to
transition
to
bettina
and
kelly
talking
about
a
meeting.
We
had
to
kind
of
start
the
discussion
about
the
annual
allocation
plan
for
2021.
A
K
I'm
I
can
start
sorry.
The
powerpoint
was
still
loading
on
my
screen,
but
I'll
just
start
with
the
community
outreach
and
engagement
rfp
that
went
out
so
it
was
due
on
monday.
We
did
not
receive
any
responses,
so
we're
still
in
the
process
of
developing
the
community
outreach
plan
for
2021,
but
we
are
focusing
on
ensuring
that
there
are
different
methods
to
taking
the
survey
so
collecting
survey
responses
over
the
phone
online
if
possible
in
person.
K
We
do
want
to
make
it
as
accessible
as
possible
as
well
and
then
we're
focusing
on
diverse
distribution.
So
those
are
all
important
concepts
that
were
related
to
ura
staff
during
this
info
session
that
we
attended.
So
those
are
going
to
be
the
main
focus
for
our
strategy,
moving
forward
for
the
outreach
for
2021
and
then
kelly
will
provide
a
more
in-depth
summary
of
what
occurred
during
the
meeting
and
the
points
discussed.
H
Yeah
so
interesting
kind
of
unpleasantly
surprised
that
nobody
responded
to
our
rfp
but
yeah.
So
the
goal
was
we
were
talking
about
we're
building
out
the
survey
and
also
discussing
the
timeline
for
how
we
would
go
about
making
our
allocation
plan
and
having
a
separate
meeting
in
october.
H
At
some
point
was
part
of
the
conversation
and
the
decision
that
was
reached
in
order
to
be
able
to
get
community
feedback
and
input
without
kind
of,
because
that
is
a
conversation
that
merits
robust
discussion
but
sometimes
gets
a
little
bit
short-changed
because
there's
other
items
on
the
agenda.
So
we
did
agree
to
do
that
so
that
we
can
have
that
robust
conversation
and
discussion.
H
There
were
a
couple
of
things
that
we
in
building
the
survey
were
spent
some
time
discussing.
One
was
the
meaning
of
the
word
community,
because
when
we
ask
you,
what
does
your
community
need?
Do
you
mean
the
black
community
of
pittsburgh?
Do
you
mean
the
queer
community
of
pittsburgh?
Do
you
mean
your
specific
neighborhood
and
really
giving
people
an
opportunity
to
say
what
it
is
that
what
that
they
need
and
who
they're
referring
to
when
they're,
creating
that
list
of
needs
and
responsiveness?
H
We
again
reviewed
the
rfp
criteria,
we're
very
concerned
about
whether
or
not
people
were
who
don't
have
access
to
technology
were
going
to
be
shut
out
of
the
process,
and
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
was
as
bettina
mentioned
included
in
the
rfp
was
whether
or
not
you're
going
to
have
the
ability
to
reach
out
to
other
folks
and
make
sure
that
you
get
as
broad
a
cross-section
as
possible.
H
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
ideal
sample
size
in
order
to
really
get
what
is
a
statistically
representative
cross-section
of
the
city,
and
I
was
surprised
that
the
magic
number
that
statisticians
have
come
up
with
is
385
for
the
city
which
to
me
seemed
low,
but
I
didn't
realize
that,
and
that
about
400
people
would
be
that
statistically
relevant.
But
that
also
gave
me
a
little
bit
of
I
think
they're
across
the
board
that
gave
us.
H
H
That
is
almost
where
you
need
to
be
one
of
the
other
things
that
we
spent
some
time
talking
about
was
whether
or
not
we're
doing
all
of
the
right
things
and
how
we
might
be
able
to
pivot
there's
a
long
list
of
items
that
are
in
the
legislation
that
the
hoff
can
be
used
to
fund,
such
as
legal
services
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
really
trying
to
get
a
gauge
from
the
community,
not
just
on
ranking
what
we're
already
doing
in
terms
of
significance,
but
seeing,
if
we're
already,
if
they
think
that
we're
doing
the
right
things
already
and
then,
if
we're
doing
them
in
terms
of
relevance
or
significance
that
the
community
that
the
broader
community
thinks.
H
So
we
really
try
to
spend
some
time
backing
out
and
getting
out
of
out
of
the
weeds
a
little
bit
because
sometimes
in
previous
allocation
plans,
it's
been
like
give
a
dollar
figure.
To
this
specific
program,
and
then
we
have
to
you-
have
to
learn
the
acronym
of
what
the
program
is
in
order
to
engage
with
that
process
versus
hey.
Do
you
want
us
to
create
more
affordable
rental
units?
H
Do
you
want
us
to
create
more
affordable
home
ownership
opportunities
and
rank
them
and
significance
and
played
around
with
the
idea
of
maybe
doing
a
pie
chart
so
that
you
can
visually
say
not
only
do
I
think
this
is
more
significant
than
that,
but
I
think
that
this
is
eighty
percent
of
the
pie,
and
this
is
five
percent
of
the
pie.
H
We're
really
kind
of
giving
some
opportunities
to
you
know
just
really
back
out
and
really
examine
this
in
a
in
a
new
way,
where
we're
kind
of
out
of
the
box
of
what
we're
already
doing
programmatically.
H
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
ask
is
in
the
new
survey
is
of
our
legislative
purposes.
Are
we
doing
the
right
things
or
do
you
think
we
should
be
focusing
on
other
things?
Do
you
think
these
legislative
purposes
are
still
super
relevant
and
yeah,
so
that's
kind
of
what
we
were.
H
What
we
were
doing
is
thinking
about
responses,
how
to
get
it
into
the
most
people's
hands
as
possible,
how
to
again
not
shut
out
people
who
don't
have
access
to
technology,
but
really
use
this
opportunity,
because
sometimes
people
won't
spend
two
hours
at
a
community
meeting
with
dots
to
really
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
get
as
many
folks
in
as
possible
yeah.
So
I
think
that
is
those
are
our
biggest
bullet
points.
H
Is
that
we're
going
to
have
a
separate
meeting
to
just
go
over
to
just
go
over
this
so
that
we're
working
in
timely
fashion?
Oh
and
covid?
We
have
a
lot
of
questions.
We
added
a
couple
of
questions
to
see
if
we're
being
responsive
enough
to
covid,
we
have
created
and
modified
some
programs
around
covid.
H
We
spent
all
of
our
demonstration
dollars
for
an
entire
year.
We
threw
at
covid
and
to
really
see,
if
that's
having
an
impact,
if
we
need
to
do
more
if
we're
the
right
vehicle.
If
we
need
to
advocate
for
additional
funds-
maybe
not
through
the
hoff
but
to
the
ura
to
cover
these
needs
so
that
I
think,
in
addition
to
really
just
taking
a
step
back
and
evaluating
everything
that
we're
doing
or
could
be
doing,
were
the
biggest
takeaways
from
from
this
from
our
allocation
plan
meeting.
A
No
thank
you
so
much
kelly
for
that
summary
and
bettina
the
tina
you
want
to
put
the
next
slide
up.
A
Sure
I
mean
this
is
the
schedule.
This
is
the
schedule
for
the
annual
allocation
plan
timeline.
You
know
we
are
here
at
the
beginning
of
september
and
with
our
meeting
so
the
advisory
board,
the
tina
and
and
all
the
staff
is
working.
You
know
hard
to
get
the
survey
out
to
the
public
so
that
they
can
start
to
answer
it
and
close
it
at
the
very
beginning
of
october.
A
What
this
means,
though,
is
the
first
half
of
october
will
be
busy
for
advisory
board,
because
we
will
need
to
have
meetings
to
go
over
the
data
and
to
to
try
to
decide.
You
know
what
how
the
advisory
board
would
like
to
drop
the
allocation
plan,
because
in
order
for
us
to
make
it
to
council
in
this
calendar
year,
we
would
need
to
have
probably
a
special
in
addition
to
working
group
meetings.
A
We're
gonna
need
a
special
advisory
board
meeting
in
the
middle
of
october
to
approve
a
preliminary
plan
so
that
we
could
then
put
it
on
our
website
and
then
for
the
final
plant
for
public
feedback
and
then
for
the
final
plan
to
be
voted
and
approved
by
this
advisory
board
at
the
beginning
of
november,
followed
by
the
ura
board,
and
so
that
we
could
then
introduce
the
council
at
the
end
of
november
and
get
it
finally
approved
before
the
the
december
holidays
by
council.
H
A
Yeah,
so
the
tina
I
think,
met
with
the
city
yesterday
to
talk
about.
You
know,
utilizing
the
city's.
You
know
larger
student
capacity
to
to
do.
You
know
larger
zoom
meeting.
Additionally,
we
may
be
reaching
out
to
potentially
one
or
two
of
the
firms,
primarily
the
non-profit
firms,
to
see
like
why
they
didn't
respond,
and
if
you
know
they
would
be
interested
in
helping
some
version
of
it.
So
we
should
have
more
to
report
on
that
front
like
in
the
next
week.
E
So
I
have
a
question
I
notice
here.
Survey
opens
and
public
meetings
held
the
public
meetings
is
that
intended
to
be
an
opportunity
for
dialogue
with
with
us
and
the
community.
A
Yeah
so
similar
to
you
know
the
ones
we've
got
in
the
past
that
most
advisory
board
members
have
participated
in.
It
would
be
like
that,
except
in
this
covet
environment,
it
would
be
b
v
zoom,
but
the
rfp
that
that
we
did
not
receive
any
responses
to
was
basically
for
for
those
consultants
to
to
kind
of
conduct
a
meeting
for
us
so
that
they
could
utilize
their
distribution
list.
A
You
know,
and
things
like
that,
so
when
we
did
not
get
any
responses,
you
know
that's
why
we
will
probably
be
reaching
out
to
some
of
them,
and
maybe
just
community
groups
and
and
cvcs
in
general,
to
allow
us
to
use
their
distribution
lists
so
that
we
can
get.
You
know
we're
not
as
much
as
possible,
and
I
don't
know
I
mean
you
know,
based
on
what
betina
and
kelly
just
talked
about
and
the
need
to
get.
You
know
400
responses
to
the
survey.
A
It
seems
at
this
time
that
we're
more
focused
on
getting
the
survey
responses.
Then
then,
you
know
in
the
past
we've
done
five
or
six
meetings
in
this
covet
environment.
That's
probably
not
not
realistic.
So
if
we,
if
we
can
collectively
and
with
the
help
of
the
advisory
board,
you
know
get
more
than
400
responses
to
the
survey
and
then
do
one
or
two
zoom
meetings
that
try
to
get
circulated
to
as
much
as
general
public
as
possible.
I
I
think,
that's
the
goal
at
this
point.
L
Yeah,
I
never
saw
the
rfp,
I'm
not
sure
how
broadly
it
was
distributed.
If
I
just
missed
that,
I
like
the
idea,
I
think
it's
a
cool
idea.
You
know
letting
people
do
like
sharing
the
presentation
and
having
different
people
present
and
having
you
guys
attend
through
that,
but
yeah.
I
would
definitely
reach
out
again
and
see
if
there's
ways
to
partner.
I
think
that
you
know
400
it's
a
great
target
and
you
know
I
believe
that
statistical
significance
usually
has
to
do
with
distribution
as
well
as
quantity.
L
A
Right,
which
was
what
the
goal
of
the
rfp
was,
the
rfp
was
issued
to
the
16
firms
that
had
pre-applied
to
the
ura,
not
not
just
firms.
Some
of
them
were
non-profits
as
well,
that
had
pre-applied
to
the
ura
for
community
outreach
activities.
So
that's
why
we
were
surprised
when
we
did
not
get
any
responses.
K
And
also
joanna
to
your
point,
the
survey
will
ask
demographic
questions
as
well,
so
we
will
be
able
to
see
where
the
respondents
are
from
and
to
ensure
that
we
do
have
diverse
geographic
reach.
A
We
will
try
to
get
some
holds
for
your
calendars
for
october,
for
the
working
group
meetings
and
for
the
the
special
board
meeting
where
we
will
need
to
do
the
preliminary
votes.
A
Okay,
moving
on
hrna,
okay,
so
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
couple
months.
We
do
have
the
contract
in
hrna's
hands.
They
are
drafting
a
survey
so
for
the
new
members.
What
we
are
talking
about
here
is
this
advisory
board
has
been
operating
since
july,
2018
without
actual
bylaws
in
place.
A
A
I
have
been
providing
that
function
as
you
are
a
staff,
but
now
that
we
have
a
full
advisory
board
of
17
people
for
the
first
time,
I
think
ever
we
do
need
to
get
that
chair
in
place.
So
hrna
is
a
consultant
out
of
new
york
and
washington
dc
that
helped
us
create
basically
helped
convene
the
original
advisory
board
in
july.
2018
helped
us
identify
the
programs
and
start
to
draft
some
of
the
program
guidelines
that
was
their
original
scope.
A
They
conducted
several
working
group
meetings
as
part
of
that
we
are
bringing
them
back
on
to
to
give
you
all
a
survey
they
are
currently
drafting.
It
so
expect
that
in
the
next
week,
or
so
to
be
released,
to
ask
you
about
your
thoughts,
basically
regarding
the
bylaws
for
the
advisory
board.
What
your
role
should
be
in
terms
of
you
know,
helping
to
to
lead
policy
versus
you
know
reviewing
the
investments
of
the
fund,
because
these
are
things
that
aren't
really
spoken
to
in
the
legislation.
A
So
that
is
what
the
nature
of
the
survey
will
be.
They
have
a
four
week,
engagement,
basically
starting
the
middle
of
this
week,
so
I
am
hopeful
to
have
much
much
more
to
report
to
you
next
month
and
and
by
that
point,
not
only
should
you
have
all
taken
the
survey
by
by
the
next
meeting,
but
they
will
not
be
able
to
interview
all
17
of
you,
but
they
will
interview
a
subset
trying
to
you
know
interview
folks
from
from
some
of
the
different
legislative
slated
seats.
A
So
we
do
want
to
spend
some
time
today
talking
about
more
of
a
programmatic
discussion,
you're
going
to
see
some
slides,
like
you,
normally
see
regarding
our
commitments
and
closings
and
expenditures,
but
we
also,
I
need
to
dwelve
into
the
the
rental
online
item
a
little
bit
and
explain
to
you
some
of
what's
happening
related
to
that
and
and
then
jeremy
is
going
to
do
the
same
on
the
homeowner
repair
program.
A
But
let's
just
start
with
a
map
that
you
do
normally
see.
This
is
the
commitments
and
closings
to
date
for
our
consumer
programs.
You
know,
programs
that
that
are
direct
loans
and
grants
to
individuals.
The
housing
stabilization
program
is
the
rental
assistance
program
for
the
new
members.
It
started
last
july
july
2019,
but
it
really
wrapped
up
with
covid.
So
you
can
see
all
the
households
that
have
been
helped
there,
the
homeowner
assistance
program
in
blue
that
for
the
new
members
that
is
a
program
where
homeowners
underneath
50
area
median
income.
A
We
also
have
homeowner
assistance
program
plus,
which
goes
up
to
80
area
median
income,
but
they
can
apply
to
the
ura
for
up
to
30
000
of
repairs
to
their
home.
Some
of
it
is
a
grant.
Some
of
it
is
a
deferred
loan
for
the
homeowners
between
50
and
80.
Some
of
it
is
an
advertising
loan.
The
green
is
our
down
payment
program,
which
is
5
000
or
7
500.
A
A
G
Is
there
anything
happening
here
in
the
works
like
we've
got
a
lot
of
stuff,
that's
above
the
mon
and
the
in
the
ohio
river?
So
there's
nothing.
You
know
in
the
south
side
in
in
those
neighborhoods.
Is
there
anything
in
the
works
out
that
way
for
any
of
these
projects.
A
There
are
some
the
pittsburgh
housing
development
corporation
is
working
in
the
sheridan
area
and
in
some
of
sort
of
the
the
south
hills,
carrick
beltsover
area
that
you
might
be
seeing
soon.
A
A
And
these
are
our
expenditures
so
where
it
says
hof
allocated
for
the
new
members,
so
dhof
gets
10
million
dollars
a
year.
A
A
million
of
that
goes
to
administration,
so
there's
been
three
years,
which
is
why
you,
the
first
column,
totals
27
million.
So
that's
three
years
worth
of
allocations,
the
additional
resources-
and
this
comes
a
little
bit
misleading.
We
weren't
really
sure
how
to
quantify
some
of
the
kaizak
money
and
some
of
the
money
coming
into
the
rental
assistance
program,
the
hsp
program,
so
it
is
shown
there.
However,
there's
also
a
lot
of
additional
resources
for
the
for
the
other
for
the
development
programs
as
well.
A
So
we
need
to
start
reflecting
that
on
this
chart,
but
we
just
for
for
today's
purposes,
wanted.
You
know
people
to
be
aware
that,
in
addition
to
the
2.5
million
that
that
we
had
for
hsp,
we
we
did
get
two
millions
of
the
cdbg
cares,
act,
money
and
then
765
000
from
foundations
and
other
sources.
A
So
you
can
see
what
has
closed
or
is
committed
from
those
lines,
and
we
are
going
to
talk
about
the
the
hap
program,
which
is
the
homeowner's
business
program.
You
can
see
that
that
one
is
almost
completely
committed
and
actually
is
completely
committed
once
we
go
through
some
applications
that
were
received
recently.
A
A
And
you
can
see
the
number
units
of
so
in
the
green,
the
households
or
the
units
that
have
been
helped
through
the
money
that
has
been
deployed
to
date.
So
you
know,
I
think,
that's
it's
really
exciting
when
you
see
the
30
ami
column
and
the
total
of
2005
people
in
that
income
bracket
that
we
have
helped
now
now.
A
That
number
is
skewed
a
little
bit,
because
you
will
see
that
the
demonstration
is
1648,
which
is
really
counting
the
number
of
people
that
go
through
the
downtown
homeless,
shelter,
low
barrier,
shelter,
because
we
did
use
the
demonstration
money
to
provide
sprinklers
for
that.
But
if
you
take
that
out
of
the
equation,
we're
still
coming
close
to
a
thousand
households
at
30
ami
that
we
have
helped
580
households
have
50
ami
and
almost
200
folks
at
either
80
or
115
ami
jessica.
N
B
N
A
A
Yes,
absolutely
we
will
do
that
in
the
future
for
the
new
members.
Yes,
there
is
alphabet
soup
in
this
field
here,
so
just
slow
me
down
or
ask
questions
whenever
you
need
to
the
rgp
stands
for
rental
gap
program.
A
That
is
the
program
that
is
used
for
either
the
development
of
new
rental
units
or
the
preservation
of
existing
rental
units.
A
Our
primary
sort
of
developer
driven
program
fsdp
stands
for
for
sale
development
program.
This
is
also
a
development
program,
but
it's
for
the
development
of
four
cell
houses.
For
the
most
part.
It's
the
acquisition,
rehab
and
resale
for
sell
houses,
so
new
construction
is
also
eligible
and
for
the
most
part
it
is
with
the
community
development
corporations.
The
legislation
on
both
of
these,
for
both
of
these
programs
really
speaks
to
a
non-profit
applicant.
A
It
doesn't
mean
that
a
for-profit
developer
cannot
participate,
but
they
need
to
have
some
type
of
partnership
set
up
with
a
non-profit
applicant.
The
hap
stands
for
homeowner
assistance
program
and
that's
the
program
I
mentioned
a
couple
minutes
ago
where
homeowners
can
apply
and
get
up
to
30
000
of
comparison
to
their
house.
The
ura
has
historically
had
homeowner
repair
programs,
but
the
terms
were
different.
The
requirements
were
different
and
when
we
opened
this
program
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
I
mean
you
can
see
the
numbers
there.
A
It's
really
telling
the
need
that's
for
the
program
and
the
fact
that
we've,
you
know,
committed
pretty
much
all
the
dollars
we
have
at
this
point.
The
bpcc
stands
for
down
payment,
closing
cost
assistance,
and
that
is
the
program
where
anyone
buying
their
first
home
or
moving
into
the
city.
For
the
first
time
underneath
80
ami
can
receive
7500
or
between
80
and
115.
They
can
receive
5
000
to
help
purchase
their
home
and
then
hsp
is
healthy.
Stabilization
program,
which
is
the
rental
assistance
program
next
slide,
betina.
A
So
for
2020
you
approved,
and
then
council
approved
a
line
item
of
four
million
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
at
the
time.
This
advisory
board
talked
about
how
we
wanted
to
allocate
those
those
projects,
because
for
the
first
two
years
we
basically
brought
the
projects
in
front
of
you
as
we
receive
them,
and
so
we
have
talked
about
you
know
potentially
doing
an
rfp
for
for
the
2020
funds
so
that
they
can
be
reviewed
consistently
consistently
with
the
advisory
board.
However,
latino,
can
you
move
to
the
next
slide?
A
We
do
have
something
I
need
to
talk
to
you
about
today.
So
as
we
were
moving
forward
with
setting
up
hof
and
when
I
was
the
director
at
a
housing
opportunity
fund,
you
know
we,
we
had
a
separate
housing
department
of
the
ura
that
was
also
working
with
developers
who
were
applying
for
the
low
income
housing
tax
credit
program.
A
A
They
also
allocate
pdbg
and
home,
which
are
our
hud
funding
sources,
and
if,
if
we
receive
any
other
city
funds
in
a
given
year,
we
now
have
to
allocate
all
of
that-
and
you
can
see
on
this
slide,
that
in
2020
we
have
the
4.5
million
of
the
hos.
A
We
also
have
on
hand
or
or
coming
via
co-op
with
the
city,
another
2.692
million
of
funds.
That's
the
home
funding
the
cdbg
funding,
primarily
so
that
totals
seven
million
that
we
have
on
hand,
but
but
it's
a
chicken
and
egg
thing
for
the
city
when
they
support
low
income,
housing
tax
credit
developments,
because
what
happens
is
when
a
developer
applies
to
the
local
health
and
tax
credit
program,
and
this
is
a
program
that
is
operated
by
the
pennsylvania,
housing
finance
agency.
A
Every
state
has
a
health
and
finance
agency
that
operates
authorizes
this
program,
the
long-term
taxpayer
program.
It's
an
irs
tax
credit
that,
when
a
developer
gets
that
that's
their
way
of
building
affordable
rental
housing
at
scale,
so
building
45
or
50
unit,
you
know
affordable
apartment
building
by
getting
those
credits,
selling
them
to
an
investor.
And
then,
if
the
total
project
cost,
you
know
12
million.
Those
credits
could
bring
in.
A
You
know
like
over
10
million
or
close
to
11
million
of
actual
equity,
which
is
how
they
could
then
rent
those
units
affordably
because
they
don't
have
first
mortgage
debt,
but
the
the
credits
don't
cover
the
entire
cost.
So
that's
why
the
developer
comes
across
the
country.
They
they
go
to
the
cities
to
get
an
allocation
of.
You
know:
government
funding
wherever
it
be
city,
housing,
trust,
fund,
funding
or
rather
be
home
or
cdbg.
A
And
so
what
happened
was
this
whole
process
to
get
credit
takes
over
a
year?
The
application
process,
so
developers
had
went
to
the
ura
to
the
ura's
prior
housing
division
and
asked
for
pre-commitment
letters
and
applications
so
that
they
could
apply
to
the
touch
credit
program,
and
I
think
there
were
eight
applications
that
went
in
this
past
round.
A
They
the
applications
went
in
like
last
november,
but
due
to
covet
and
other
reasons,
phfa
did
not
make
their
announcements
until
just
this
past
month
in
august
and
in
a
record
year,
the
city
actually
got
six
long
housing
tax
credit
awards
out
of
the
eight
they
presented.
That
is
a
record
the
average
year
we
received
two
or
three
awards.
We've.
A
So
the
garfield
highlands
project
in
the
neighborhood
of
garfield,
the
gladstone
school
project
in
the
neighborhood
of
hazelwood,
the
harvard
baby
street
project
in
the
neighborhood
of
east
liberty,
the
larmor
phase
three
project
in
larbourg-
that's
you
know,
part
of
the
choice,
neighborhood
and
then
north
side
properties,
phase
four,
which
is
scatter
site,
existing
preservation
deal
in
north
side.
Those
projects
were
awarded
tax
credits,
they
have
gap
needs
as
identified
there.
A
The
two
in
like
the
greenish,
yellow
color,
are
four
percent
tax
credit
deals
that
the
ura
is
working
on
as
well,
that
that
needed
some
preliminary
sort
of
commitments
for
their
four
percent
letters
as
well.
Four
percent
test
periods
are
a
little
different
than
nine
percent,
it's
more
of
a
rolling
allocation,
but
it's
also
a
very
long
process.
A
So
when
I
say
chicken
and
egg,
it's
really
weird,
because
developers
who
apply
for
these
resources
need
preliminary
commitments
way
early,
like
you
know
a
year
and
a
half
before
they
close,
and
it
puts
the
ura
in
a
really
strange
position.
So,
as
you
can
see
on
this
chart
in
order
to
get
these
very
important
deals
closed
for
the
city,
it's
going
to
take
about
6.7
million
of
ura
resources.
A
We
have
a
little
over
7
million
available
right
now.
That
does
not
leave
much
extra.
Additionally,
with
covid
there's
been
some
construction
increases
and
delay
increases
to
cost
that
some
of
these
developers,
you
know,
may
not
be
able
to
close
the
deal
with
the
with
the
existing
commitments.
So
at
this
point
we
are
recommending
to
the
advisory
board
that
we
do
not
issue
an
rfp
for
the
2020
funding,
but
instead
use
the
funding
to
help
get
these
very
important
developments
across
the
closing
tables.
B
B
A
Yeah,
so
let
me
answer
to
cover
part
of
the
question
and
then
I'll
also
kind
of
talk
about
other
resources
that
we
see
on
the
horizon.
Okay,
so
the
coveted
part
of
the
question
is
the
cares
act
funding
the
city
received
eight
million
of
cdbg
through
the
cares
act,
and
most
of
that
came
to
the
ura
five
million
for
business
and
commercial
support
to
help
pickspace
businesses.
A
You
know
over
this
hurdle
and
then
2
million-
that
was
the
2
million
you
saw
on
the
hsp
slide,
came
to
the
ura
for
rental
assistance
and
mortgage
assistance,
and
then
1
million
went
to
other
agencies.
That
is
all
the
city
got
in
cdbg.
For
the
cares
act
it
does
not
look
like
there
are
any
other
karzak
resources
that
can
go
to
fill
these
gaps.
O
A
Eyes
on
heroes,
acts
as
it
moves
through
congress
right
now,
and
I
don't
know
what
that
may
you
know
bring,
may
or
may
not
bring
one
potential
thing
that
congress
is
sort
of
arguing
about
right
now
is
an
increase
to
home
dollars
as
part
of
the
heroes
act.
I
think
it's
a
long
shot,
but
if
it
did
happen,
that
would
be
fabulous
and
wonderful
and
would
bring
some
more
resources
in
for
these
types
of
projects.
Additionally,
you
know
we're
watching
karzak
money
that
goes
through
the
state.
A
You
know,
through
both
dpd
and
phfa
dcd
bank
pennsylvania,
department
of
community
and
economic
development
and
phfa
being
the
pennsylvania,
housing
finance
agency,
we're
keeping
our
eyes
on
all
that,
but
it
does
not
seem
at
this
time
that
there
are
additional
resources
coming
through.
The
covid
cares
act
to
to
help
with
this.
A
With
that
said,
though,
there
are,
you
know
always
moving
parts
we're
currently
going
through
a
capital
budgeting
process
with
the
city
right
now
for
2021
funding,
as,
as
you
all
know,
we're
going
to
be
allocating
2021
hof
resources.
So
both
of
those
should
be
you
know
coming
in
this
coming
year,
which
would
enable
us
to
support
projects
that
are
not
tax
credit
projects.
Additionally,
we
also
there'll
be
an
announcement
of
el
tridra.
A
Potentially
it's
a
east
liberty
funding
source
that
that
may
be
happening
in
the
next
couple
months.
That
might
help
free
up
some
funding
depending
on
you
know
the.
If
any
of
these
deals
fit
geography
and
things
like
that,
so
there
there
are
moving
parts
and
there's
also
what
this
list
does
not
show
is
some
commitments
that
have
not
closed.
A
There's
two
other
four
percent
deals
not
on
the
list:
northside
properties,
phase,
three
and
fifth
and
then
woody,
because
they
already
have
allocations
from
dhof.
Additionally,
there
are
some
other
hof
projects
that
have
not
yet
closed.
If
anything
gets
freed
up,
we
will
come
back
to
the
advisory
board,
notifying
you
of
our
new
resources
or
freed
up
resources.
You
know
and
can
potentially
do
an
rfp
at
that
point.
B
Okay,
I
think
if
there
are
opportunities
for
advocacy
I
mean,
I
know
we're
all
in
the
housing
loop
and
we
know
when
these
bills
are
in
congress,
but
even
just
calling
our
senator
like,
I
think
letting
the
advisory
board
know
if
there
are
opportunities
for
us
to
advocate
for
these
new
federal
funding
sources
that
are
coming
online.
That
could
be
really
helpful.
Just
over
email.
A
E
I
have
a
question
and
a
comment,
so
the
recommendation
not
to
have
an
rfp
these.
This
is
for
2020
rental
program
funds.
Not
2021
is
that
correct.
E
Okay
and
then,
secondly,
just
to
lena
and
your
point
about
other
things
that
we
can
advocate
for
for
other
resources,
there
is
also
a
state
housing
tax
credit
right
now,
it's
sb
30.
It
was
passed
in
statewide
by
the
senate.
Now
the
house
of
representatives
needs
to
to
sign
on
to
it.
So
that's
something
we
can
do
locally
and
that
will
help.
You
know,
create
more
resources
as
well.
A
D
Great,
I
was
just
going
to
say
this
is
really
great.
I
appreciate
the
breakdown
excited
about
the
six
tax
credits
and
looking
forward
to
2021.
I
think
that
we,
you
know,
hopefully,
can
be
able
to
fund
more
projects
next
year,
but
it's
exciting
that
we
at
least
have
six
opportunities
this
year
to
put
more
people
on
affordable
housing.
H
Yeah,
so
my
question-
oh,
I
agree
with
everything
that's
been
said
was
just
when
our
2021
funds
would
be
online
to
start
dispersing
because
2021
is
almost
here.
So
while
it's
a
downer
that
we're
kind
of
out
of
2020
money,
we
can
proactively
look
at.
You
know
what
we
can
do
like
three
months
from
now,
but
when
would
that
be
online
to
disperse.
A
A
N
Do
we
think
that
that
this
could
be
impacted
by
any
real
estate
tax
transfer
revenue
decreases
that
might
be
experienced
in
2020
because
of
covet
19?
Could
that
adversely
impact
an
allocation
next
year.
A
So
I
might
need
to
defer
to
oliver
who
is
in
the
mayor's
office,
but
but
the
legislation
has
legislated
10
million
a
year
for
12
years.
It
is
not
tied
dollar
to
dollar
to
the
transfer
tax.
So
if,
if
the
transfer
tax
brings
in
you
know
15
million,
we
still
just
get
10.,
but
if
the
transfer
tax
brings
in
7
million,
you
know
we
still
in
theory
depend
it
would
take.
It
would
take
a
city
council
authorization.
As
far
as
I
understand
it,
to
change
that.
Okay.
G
And
also
city
council
snuck
in
an
extra
you
know,
transferred
to
they
covered
the
10
million
and
then
three
years
later
they
faced
in
another
half
a
percent
or
to
up
it
so
there's,
theoretically,
20
million
that
would
be
flowing
into
the
city
from
the
deep
transfer
tax
in
normal
times
from
the
base
year.
So
there
should
be
money
regardless
in
that
transfer
tax
to
fund
the
10
million,
affordable
housing.
E
Has
the
10
million
dollars
in
revenue
generated
from
transfer
taxes
ever
been
under
10
million
to
date.
A
I
don't
know
when
it
first
started
in
2018.
If
you
remember,
when
they
first
did
it,
they
only
increased
by
half
a
percentage
and
then
they
increased
by
another
half
a
percentage.
E
I
I
don't
know
what
folks
think,
but
that
might
be
an
opportunity
to
maybe
advocate
to
have
that
increased.
I
know
fear
when
it
started
out
was
at
a
at
that
certain
cap
and
was
able
to
get
that
raised
and
it's
it's
helped
tremendously
across
the
state.
So
might
be
something
that
we
consider
looking
at.
E
H
When
we
get
rid
of
our
kovid
deficit,
so
maybe
come
back
in
2021
after
the
city's
recovered
a
little
bit,
I
don't
foresee
them
giving
up
a
a
penny
right
now,
but
absolutely
I
think
that
would
be
something
to
come
back
to
under
somewhat
normal
circumstances.
N
Both
dollars
are
going
to
be
coveted,
and
I-
and
I
know
that
affordable
housing
is
a-
is
a
priority.
That's
why
we
sit
here,
but
I
think
we've
all
got
to
be
so
sober
about
the
realities
that
are
going
to
be
facing
the
entire
system
and
really,
you
know,
brace
ourselves
to
make
sure
that
we
can
drive
as
much
impact
as
possible
with
whatever
resources
that
we
have.
A
Absolutely
thank
you
all
so
much.
If
there's
no
more
questions
or
concerns
about
this
approach,
the
ura
will
move
forward.
With
this
approach.
We
will,
we
will
be
working
with
these
taxpayer.
A
Developers
to
you
know,
instruct
them
to
go
ahead
and
apply
to
the
hof
for
the
amounts
of
their
pre-commitment
letters,
the
hof
and
the
other
funding
sources,
and
then
ura
staff
will
review
them
based
on
the
criteria
of
the
project
and
which
funding
source
you
know
fits
best
for
the
project
and
then
we
will
probably
bring
them
in
the
next
month
or
two
as
a
group
together
to
the
advisory
board
for
your
your
review
and
approval.
B
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
say
quickly.
We
should
be
so
glad
the
housing
opportunity
fund
exists
because
you
know
with
dmi
talking
about
the
decreasing
resources.
What
if
we
didn't,
have
this
4.5
million
dollars?
You
said
yes
possible,
I
mean
with
cdbg,
going
down
and
home
going
down.
Pittsburgh
would
be
in
major
trouble,
so
it
was
very
wonderful
that
this
happened
before
all
of
these
crises
and
that
these
funds
are
permanently
in
place
and
that
we're
here
to
allocate
them.
So
I
just
feel
like.
N
And
to
that
point
I
think
I
think
that's
an
appropriate
time
to
really
thank
those
that
work
to
advocate
and
to
form
this
table
and
this
opportunity
that
foresight
not
knowing
that
we
were
going
to
encounter
something
as
cataclysmic
as
covet
19.
So
I
I'd
like
to
take
a
moment
to
just
thank
all
of
those
that
convened
that
original
table
that
looked
at
the
need
for
a
fund
that
would
focus
squarely
on
affordable
housing.
Some
of
you
guys
are
on
the
phone.
I
think
some
are
in
the
audience
so
major.
Thank
you.
There.
A
Okay,
if
there's
nothing
else
on
this
topic,
we'll
move
on
to
the
homeownership
program
and
jeremy
carter
and
brianna
are
going
to
talk
about.
You
know
the
demand
they
have
seen
in
these
programs
since
covid,
and
what
is
it?
Is
it
doing
what
it
is
doing
to
the
fund
balances
for
these
programs
as
well?
Go
ahead,
jeremy.
O
I'm
actually
going
to
have
brianna
do
a
brief
overview
of
the
ura's
home
ownership
roadshow
that
we're
putting
together
and
then
I
will
give
status
updates
on
the
other
programs.
A
Okay,
great
and
just
just
a
30
second
intro
to
brianna,
then
on
the
home
ownership
road
show.
You
know
one
thing
that
the
ura
sort
of
sort
of
in
part
due
to
the
the
cmu
create
labs
presentation.
I
think
a
few
months
ago
and
then
also
in
part
due
to
what
we
have
been
noticing
as
trends
in
home
ownership.
A
We
want
to
make
sure,
as
many
pittsburgh
residents
as
possible,
understand
the
benefits
of
homeownership
and
also
how
affordable
it
can
be
with
our
program
and
the
housing
authorities
program
and
other
pro
federal
homes
on
bank
and
other
programs
as
well.
So
we
are
working
on
a
road
show
of
sorts,
which
is
a
presentation
that
we
can
give
to
different
venues.
A
P
Thank
you
jessica.
What
a
wonderful
summary,
but
just
to
echo
jessica's
point
I
mean
the
goal
of
the
curriculum
is
to
definitely
help
spread
the
word
about
home
ownerships
and
the
steps
that
it
takes
to
set
ones
up
for
success
around
it,
and
this
will
be
created
in
conjunction
with
the
pittsburgh
financial
empowerment
center
with
their
curriculum-
and
I
mean
just
a
few
focus
areas
that
we
want
to
touch
on
are
home
maintenance.
P
I
think
you
know,
there's
a
lack
of
home
education
around
that
piece
like
once,
people
get
set
up
in
their
homes.
It's
like
okay.
This
is
something
that
I
have
to
take
care
of.
I
I
mean
I
don't
have
a
language
that
I
can
call
to
fix
something
so
just
empowering
people
with
that.
Those
set
of
tools
to
let
them
know
that
what's
available,
also
affordability.
P
In
addition,
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
importance
of
credit
debt
to
income
ratio,
what
to
look
for
in
a
sales
agreement,
and
even
just
starting
from
the
basics
of
people
evaluating
whether
or
not
they're
ready
for
home
ownership
at
whatever
stage
that
they
are
currently
in
in
their
lives.
So
I
mean
that's
pretty
much
a
quick
overview
and
the
goal
of
the
curriculum
content
without
getting
too
much
into
the
weeds.
O
Great
and
speaking
of
home
ownership,
a
little
status
update
on
the
down
payment
and
closing
costs
assistance
program.
We
have
certainly
seen
an
increase
since
coveted
happened.
We
are
processing
and
approving
about
10
loans
a
month,
but
today
the
down
payment
assistance
program
has
provided
a
131
down
payment
assistance.
Loans
to
help
people
buy
their
first
home
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
O
Joanna
had
asked
previously
about
a
little
breakdown
on
who
is
taking
advantage
of
this
program
and
so
about
seven
over.
Seventy
percent
of
the
applicants
that
took
advantage
of
this
program
are
on
eighty
percent
ami
and
below,
and
we
do
have
homeowners
in
eight
out
of
the
nine
council
districts
across
the
city,
with
a
racial
breakdown
with
down
payment
assistance,
it's
48
black
or
african-american
40
white
and
about
4
asian.
O
The
slide
you
see
in
front
of
you
is
a
breakdown
for
the
homeowner
assistance
program
for
for
the
new
advisory
board
members.
This
is
the
program
where
people
can
take
out
up
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
their
home
repairs
and
improvements.
Currently,
we
have
seen
an
increase
in
applications
for
this
program
since
covid.
Our
assumption
is
that
people
are
home
more
and
noticing
things
that
need
to
be
done
to
the
home.
So
currently
we
have
90
projects
in
construction.
O
At
this
time
we
have
we're
wrapping
up
roofathon
right
now,
which
provided
24
homeowners
with
roof
replacements.
Once
those
are
all
completed,
we
will
have
completed
50
projects
in
this
program.
O
To
that
end,
well,
we'll
get
into
that
a
little
bit
later.
The
next
couple
of
slides
I
want
to
highlight
some
projects
because
I
feel
like
maybe
the
advisory
board
doesn't
have
as
many
opportunities
to
see
before
and
after
pictures
of
what's
being
funded,
and
so
I
wanted
to
show
a
couple
of
these
from
the
roofathon
initiative
that
we
are
just
wrapping
up.
This
is
a
roof
replacement
in
perry.
South
the
contractor
was
concrete
rose.
Who
is
an
mwbe?
O
The
next
one
is
of
the
same
house,
but
well.
This
is
a
different
same
house.
This
is
the
front
facade
where
they
replace
the
awning
and
the
carpet
steps,
as
well
as
the
new
front
window.
O
O
This
is
a
project
in
bloomfield
where
we
did
do
a
roof
replacement,
as
well
as
some
facade
improvements
with
the
railings
office
fascia
and
I
believe,
a
new
door
and
accessible
shower.
O
So
because
we
have
received
more
applications
for
homeowner
assistance
program
than
we
currently
have
funding,
for,
we
are
going
on
a
temporary
pause
on
accepting
applications,
so
we
will
be
providing
other
resources
to
homeowners
who
inquire
about
the
program.
O
Might
be
a
little
bit
hard
to
see,
but
this
is
going
into
our
rental
and
mortgage
assistance
program,
the
housing
stabilization
program.
No,
no
doubt
this
is
increased
dramatically
since
covid,
so
the
numbers
you
see
on
the
right
and
the
pie
chart
are
all
from
mid-march.
So
since
then
we
have
process
or
in
process
and
paid.
We
have
about
830
households,
so
we
also
have
about
10
people
on
the
wait
list.
O
So
with
about
12
service
providers
working
on
this
program,
we've
been
able
to
keep
up
with
the
demand,
although
it
is
a
quite
a
big
demand.
So
we
are
about
halfway
through
the
funding
that
we
currently
have
for
this
program,
but
rental
assistance
is
by
far
the
most
need
that
we're
seeing
and
we
are
also
seeing
a
pretty
consistent
need
in
terms
of
the
need
being
related
to
covid
back
when
we
started
in
april,
we
saw
about
75
to
80
of
applicants,
stating
their
need
is
directly
tied
to
covid.
O
L
A
Now
yeah,
I
mean
the
homeowner
repair
program.
Just
to
kind
of
you
know.
Let
let
everybody
know
is
the
very
time
in
the
sense
that
so
the
program
that
takes
a
lot
of
time
from
a
lot
of
people.
We
have
six
program
administrators,
non-profit
program,
administrators.
A
You
know
such
as
rebuilding
together
pittsburgh
action,
health
and
habitat
for
humanity
that
are
working
on
the
program.
We
also
have
four
for-profit
contractors,
two
or
three
of
those
are
mwbe
contractors,
and
they
are
moving
as
fast
as
they
can.
We.
We
have,
of
course,
the
staff.
You
see
the
housing
staff,
but
we
also
have
construction
staff
at
the
ura.
The
bids
you
know
waiting
for
permits
all
kinds
of
things.
A
You
know
take
up
a
lot
of
time
on
these
these
programs,
so
each
house
does
does
take
a
little
while-
and
you
know,
we've
just
really
got
to
the
point
where
with
covet,
especially,
I
think
because
people
are
staying
in
place,
our
applications,
just
we
started
receiving
them
in
math.
So
we
now
have
you
know,
100
folks,
waiting
and
feel
like
based
on
our
available
resources
and
also
just
the
fact
that
the
list
is
so
long.
We
need
to
temporarily
close
the
application.
A
Questions:
okay!
Well,
if
there's
no
other
questions,
the
next
advisory
board
is
october,
1st
at
9
00
a.m.
October,
as
we
said
earlier,
will
be
a
busy
month
for
advisory
board.
As
we
move,
you
know
towards
getting
a
2021
allocation
plan
in
place.
Is
there
anything
else
anyone
would
like
to
discuss?
I
think
evan.
I
don't
know
if
you're
still
on
the
line,
but
he
sent
me
a
text.
There
might
be
one
public
commenter
waiting.
Is
there
a
public
commenter.
M
No
they'll
speak
next
month,
jessica.
A
Okay,
okay,
so
is
there
anything
else?
The
advisory
board
would
like
to
bring
up
for
discussion
prior
to
someone
making
a
motion
for
adjournment.
No.
N
A
And,
and-
and
thank
you
to
adrian
and
to
kelly
for
helping
to
lead
the
discussion
today
as
well,
if
there's
nothing
else,
can
someone
make
a
motion
for
adjournment
motion
to
adjourn
second.