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From YouTube: The Grant Street Experience: Brandon Walton
Description
On this episode of The Grant Street Experience, Grant Ervin and Rebecca Kiernan talk to City of Pittsburgh Fleet Manager Brandon Walton.
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Well
tell
her:
she
has
great
taste,
that's
pretty
cool
stuff,
so
you
know
just
first
off
welcome
to
the
grand
street
experience
his
first
time
on
here.
We
really
appreciate
you
joining
us
today,
maybe
for
the
listeners,
if
you
could
start
out
by
just
telling
us
a
little
bit
about
your
background
in
history
and
how
you
came
to
work
at
the
city
of
pittsburgh,.
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Sure
so
I've
been
in
fleet
for
about
15
years
now
I
started
off
with
the
pennsylvania
army
national
guard,
as
a
mechanic
worked,
my
way
up
to
sort
of
like
a
service
advisor,
but
in
the
guard
full-time.
So
national
guard
is
traditionally
traditionally
like
a
reserve.
You
know
one
week
in
a
month
two
weeks
out
of
summer.
I
did
it
full
time
for
seven
years,
eight
years
worked
my
way
up
to
service
advisor.
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Then
I'm
basically
like
a
service
manager,
slash
fleet
transportation,
specialist,
that
every
everything
you
can
do
with
fleet
kind
of
falls
under
under
my
belt.
I'm
now
back
to
part
time.
So
from
the
guard
I
went
to
norfolk,
southern
railroad
as
a
transportation
supervisor,
and
now
here
I
am
at
the
city.
I
love
my
job
here.
It's
it's!
It's
interesting.
I
meet
a
lot
of
great
people
like
yourself
and
rebecca.
I
get
to
work
with
some
good
teams
and
it's
exciting
awesome.
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Maybe
for
folks
a
lot
of
times
when
I
talk
about
the
work
that
we
do
with
you
guys
in
fleet
folks
are
a
little
surprised
that
we
have
such
a
massive
fleet
and
don't
really
appreciate,
I
think,
all
of
the
you
know
all
the
mechanized
equipment
that
goes
into
kind
of
operating
a
government
the
size
of
the
city.
Can
you
give
folks
kind
of
a
sense
of
you
know
both
the
scale
of
the
fleet?
And
you
know
the
types
of
vehicles
that
are
under
management.
C
Yeah,
so
you
know
for
a
city
fleet,
you
know
we
are,
we
are
I'd,
say
we're
a
little
smaller
than
maybe
we
could
be.
We
have
a
lot
of
operations
out
there
in
terms
of
you
know,
taking
care
of
the
parks
that
we
use,
providing
fire
and
ems
and
police
service
to
the
city.
You
know
we
could.
We
could
sometimes
use
use
more
vehicles
to
kind
of
help
out,
but
you
know
we
make
do
what
we
have
and-
and
we
have
a
lot
of
cool,
interesting,
different
types
of
vehicles.
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Yes,
so
they're
all
it's
they're,
police
horses.
We
have
a
mounted
police
unit.
Those
officers
are
assigned
directly
to
the
horses,
they
take
care
of
them.
They
I'm
sure
everybody's
seen
them
walking
downtown.
They
are
magnificent
creatures,
they're
huge
they're,
big
horses.
They
remind
me
of
the
clydesdales
from
the
budweiser
commercials.
C
Too
yeah
boats,
actually
we
just
got
a
new
river
rescue
boat.
It
was
much
needed.
The
old
river
rescue
boat
was
20
plus
years
old,
so
the
new
one's
really
nice.
I
haven't
gotten
to
to
take
a
ride
on
it.
Yet,
due
to
the
pandemic,
it
came
just
before
the
pandemic,
so
but
it
is
out
on
the
water
they
are
using
it.
I
think
it
was
part
of
some
things
that
were
going
on
not
too
long
ago.
I
think
they
were
using
it
but
yeah.
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We
also
have
a
really
cool
fire
boat.
That's
another
piece
of
specialty
equipment.
That's
really
interesting!
It
has
the
ability
to
suck
water
out
of
the
river
and
shoot
it
at
a
fire.
You
know
so
a
bridge
is
on
fire
or
you
know
maybe
somewhere
near
the
river,
where
we
can't
get
a
fire
truck
to.
We
can
take
the
boat
right
there
and
suck
the
water
up
and
and
put
the
fire
out,
and
it
also
has
the
ability
to
hook
up
to
a
fire
truck.
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Yes,
and
it's
got,
it's
got
some
pretty
cool.
You
know
thermal
imaging
and
stuff,
like
that.
You
know
to
help
see
below
water
and-
and
you
know,
see
long
range.
You
know
if
we're
kind
of
covering
an
event
like
you
know,
presidents,
in
town
or
something
like
that,
you
know
it's,
it's
got
some
pretty
cool
equipment
on
it
and
it
also
has
the
ability
that
we
can
put
like
like
a
a
side
by
side
up
on
it.
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Yeah,
so
you
know
it
it
kind
of
it's
it's
it's
a
partnership
between
you
know,
fleet
and
the
individual
department
and
the
mayor
mayor's
office,
just
working
together
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
good
design
that
that
fits.
You
know
both
the
contour
lines
of
the
vehicle,
but
also
like
the
the
heart
and
the
heart
of
the
city.
You
know
it
our
decals
aren't
just
you
know.
You
know
a
picture
for
people
to
see
they.
They
represent
something,
you
know
so
with
the
police
vehicles,
it
could
be.
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I
mean
we're
transitioning
to
the
the
sil
all
silver
fleet,
but
this
this
vehicle
pays
homage
to
to
the
to
the
silver
fleet,
the
the
wishes
of
the
mayor
and
in
in
bringing
the
city
to
you
know
a
single
design.
You
know
everybody
kind
of
has
their
own
thing,
but
you
can
tell
that
all
the
vehicles
are
our
city
of
pittsburgh.
There's
no,
like
you
know,
domi
doesn't
have
three
different,
decals
or
whatever,
but
then
also
the
police.
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Cars
also
pay
homage
to
their
uniform,
and
I
think
everybody
will
see
that
once
the
once
the
cars
come
out.
So
it's
really
it's.
It's
really
cool
we're
currently
working
on
the
design
for
the
ambulance,
I'm
hoping
to
have
some
preliminary
pictures
of
that
early
next
week
and
then
we'll
move
right
into
into
designing
the
ems
motorcycles.
We
have
some
brand
new
ems
motorcycles
and
police
motorcycles
coming
out.
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B
B
Electric
vehicles
in
what
like
2015,
I
think
we
set
a
target
of
100
fossil
fuel
free
fleet,
which
is
a
little
bit
complicated,
but
so
we've
been
trying
to
you
know:
right-size
the
fleet
and
figure
out
exactly
which
vehicles
would
shift
to
which
fuel
type.
So
electric
vehicles
were
kind
of
the
lowest
hanging
fruit
for
our
pli
fleet.
So
we've
been
working
to
switch
those
over
their
sedans,
so
they
had
formerly-
or
you
know
there
still
are
some
been
ford
focuses.
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C
B
So
we've
had
we've
been
driving
around
electric
vehicles
for,
like
the
past
three
years,
we've
been
supplementing
the
extra
cost,
with
some
department
of
environmental
protection
grants
which
have
been
super
helpful
and
then
one
of
the
challenges
that
we've
had
obviously
is
charging
the
vehicles.
So
where
do
they
sleep?
How
do
we
lay
the
electrical
infrastructure,
which
is
something
that
we're
going
through
right
now?
B
The
first
ones
were
parked
at
our
motor
pool
lot
and
those
are
grid
tied
level,
two
chargers,
level,
two
means
that
they
take
about
eight
hours
overnight,
to
charge
to
full
capacity
typically,
and
then
we
we
then
subsequently
purchased
with
slim
forsythe
when
he
was
here.
Those
elect
those
solar
electric
self-contained
chargers
that
you
might
see
at
sec
at
the
second
avenue
lot.
B
Oh
in
the
winter,
I'm
sorry
I
can't
get
past
how
hot
it
is
yeah.
So
right
now
I
mean
we're
working
on
a
second
ave,
the
second
avenue
lot.
So
that's
the
lot,
that's
in
between
2nd
avenue
and
376
right
next
to
the
allegheny
county
jail
and
we're
working
on
a
grid
tied
solution
there
that
will
eventually,
hopefully
have
a
big
solar,
solar,
canopy
and
more
of
a
permanent
solution
at
that
site.
But
you
know
we're
running
into
some
complications.
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C
Sure
I
mean
you
know
it's
I'd
say
you're.
The
first
thing
you
note
when
you
get
an
electric
vehicle,
when
you
hit
the
start
button,
nothing
nothing
seems
to
happen
that
you're
that
you're,
expecting
you
know
you
you
expect
like
the
turn
of
the
key
and
the
the
rumble
of
the
engine
or
the
vibration
of
the
engine
at
least
nothing
with
it
with
an
electric
vehicle.
C
So
some
of
them
do
like
a
ding
to
let
you
know
that
it's
good
to
go
some
of
them,
the
dash
lights
up
a
little
bit
brighter,
but
other
than
that.
That's
it.
So
you
hear
nothing,
you
know
and
then,
when
you
start
to
go
it's
just
it's
instant.
You
know
it's
not
like.
There's
zero
hesitation,
which
is
really
cool.
You
know
foot
to
pedal
and
wheels
move.
Not
you
know,
foot
to
pedal,
have
engine
revs
and
then
the
car
starts
to
move.
There's
no
rpms
right.
C
So
there
are
the
yes
and
no,
I
mean,
there's
still
rotations
per
minute
in
terms
of
the
the
wheels
moving
but
yeah
there's
no
transmission.
So
that's
where
you
get
the
delay
versus
a
gas
vehicle.
You
know
traditional
combustion
engines,
there's
engine
torque,
converter
transmission
and
then
there
may
be
drop
shafts
and
axes
tools
and
wheels,
whereas
the
electric
vehicles
are
really
pushing
towards
these
motors
that
are
like
built
into
the
individual
wheel.
So
I
always
use
the
the
the
comparison
of
like
your
remote
control
car.
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When
you
were
a
kid
yeah,
you
know
it's
right
there.
All
the
power
is
right
there
at
the
wheels
and-
and
it
just
goes-
and
the
coolest
thing
about
electric
vehicles
versus
you
know:
combustion
engine
vehicles
other
than
you
know
the
fact
that
they're
glee
they're
clean
and
green
and
and
they're
like
those
remote
control
cars
in
the
sense
that
you
know
20
years
from
now.
C
If
we
put
a
new
battery
in
it,
it
will
probably
still
drive
down
the
road,
whereas
with
a
combustion
engine
20
years
down
the
road,
it
may
need
a
lot
of
different
items
to
get
it
running
again.
You
know
so
less
moving
parts,
less
maintenance,
they're,
really
cool,
and
you
know
they.
They
save
you
on
on
on
breaks,
and
I
mean
they're
just
they're
just
really
interesting.
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You
guys
have
had
the
chance
to
as
we've
explored.
You
know
the
different
types
of
vehicles
you've
also
had
a
chance
to
test
drive
a
lot
of
these.
Is
there
a
difference
in
experience
between,
say
the
ford
focus,
the
chevy
bolt
the
tesla
like
what?
What
are
what
are
some
of
the
different,
both
technical,
but
also
like
the
experience
and
driving
some
of
those
or
their
differences.
C
So
I
haven't
actually
drove
a
focus,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
those
are
I've
driven,
the
the
hybrid
fords,
but
not
the
not
the
ev,
focuses
now
the
chevy
bolt
versus
the
tesla
really
similar
in
terms
of
you
know
that
that
instant,
instant
torque,
you
know
foot
to
pedal
and
go
biggest
differences.
I
mean
tesla
was
built
as
a
luxury
vehicle
performance
is,
is
key
with
them.
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C
Yeah
the
so
the
chevy
bolt
is
actually
msrp
is,
is
right.
Around
36.
we
did,
we
did
competitively
bid
the
vehicles
out
this
year.
The
chevy
bolt
came
in
at
the
lowest
between
the
the
bolt
the
leaf
and
the
tesla
biggest
thing
is
tesla's,
just
not
set
up
yet
with
a
lot
of
the
cooperative
purchasing
agreements
that
that
we
tend
to
use.
So
there's
no
like
government
discounts,
yet
they
don't
they
don't
have
that
kind
of
power
yet
or
maybe
just
not.
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No-
and
I
I
think
you
know
they
they
seem
like
they
were
interested
in
joining,
but
maybe
you
know
I
guess
tesla
as
a
whole.
You
know
corporate
tesla
would
have
to
agree
because
one
of
the
biggest
things
with
with
some
of
those
cooperative
purchasing
agreements
is
that
they
have
to
offer
a
standard
discount
right
up
front,
and
you
know
I
think
tesla's
just
not
there
yet
that
they
can
start
doing
that.
Maybe
eventually.
B
Driving
them
yeah.
Well,
the
city
planning
vehicle
is
a
focus,
so
I've
mostly
been
driving
around
in
the
city
planning
ford
focus,
which
is
actually
really
fun
to
drive.
I
was
a
former
owner
of
a
old
gas
ford
focus
so
driving
them
both
at
the
same
time
was,
I
mean
not
at
the
same
time,
but
in
the
same
period
was
was
different.
Yeah
they
just
zip
around
they're,
really
fast.
They
have
a
quick
pick
up,
but
brandon.
C
Yeah,
so
you
know
we
we
want
to
transition
whatever
we
can
to.
You
know
a
cleaner
fleet,
so
we
got
approached
by
this
company
line
electric
and
they
came
with
some
some
really
interesting.
You
know
they
have
been.
I
think
it's
eight
years
they've
been
selling
an
electric
school
bus
and
now
they
want
to
dabble
in
you
know,
class
six
class,
eight
trucks.
So
you
know
box
trucks,
garbage
trucks,
things
like
that.
You
know
our
garbage
trucks
are
class,
a
vehicles
and
that's
that's
the
weight.
C
You
know
that
they
can
handle.
So
you
know
we
decided
we're
going
to
make
a
trip
to
to
montreal.
They
invited
us
up
to
come
to
their
factory
and
and
check
out
the
vehicles,
and
so
we
were
thinking
of
doing
a
four
street
truck.
Unfortunately,
we
lost
a
forestry
bucket
truck
last
year,
some
bad
wiring.
I
don't
know
if
one
of
our
garage
rats
got
to
it,
but
it
caught
on
fire.
So
nobody
was
hurt,
but
we
lost
the
vehicle.
So
we
need
to
replace
it.
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C
When
you
put
your
pet,
your
foot
to
the
pedal
in
this
electric
vehicle.
It
goes
it's
it
just
picks
up
and
it
goes
and
it
I
mean
it's
amazing,
the
motor
on
this
thing.
You
know
when
you
think
of
a
of
a
class
eight
vehicle
and
the
size
of
the
motor.
You
know
it's
like
the
size
of
a
small
car.
You
know
right,
you
could
you
could
lay
the
the
motor
of
a
class
eight
vehicle
on
on
a
ford
focus
and
it
would
it
would
completely
smash
it.
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B
C
C
Gpw
for
for
folks
gross
vehicle
weight
rating
okay,
so
that
that's
kind
of
how
you
get
your
different
classes
of
vehicle,
whether
you
need
a
cdl
to
drive
it
and
whatnot
that's
kind
of
the
standard
measurement,
so
the
26
000
pound
would
be
like
a
class
b
cdl.
So
we
we
need.
We
need
the
the
26
000
pound
gvw.
Then
we
need
the
ability
to
haul
at
least
a
10
000
pound
trailer,
so
we
gave
them
all
the
specs
and
and
we're
still
we're
waiting
to
hear
back.
C
I
think
the
pandemic
has
slowed
it
down
a
little
bit.
I've
talked
talked
to
him
a
couple
times.
The
engineers
are,
definitely
they
know
they're
capable
of
making
it
the
company.
That's
gonna,
build
the
buckets
out
of
it,
they're
sure
that
they
can
make
it
work.
So
now
it's
just
a
matter
of
them.
You
know
finding
out
the
details
and
and
getting
us
a
price,
so
we're
excited
we're,
hoping
that
we're
gonna
make
this
work.
It'll
be
the
first
of
its
kind
and
it'll
be
in
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
C
Class
eight
chassis,
so
garbage
trucks,
bucket
trucks,
box,
trucks.
You
know
those
types
of
vehicles,
mostly
single
rear
axles.
So
you
know
if
you're
looking
at
like
a
larger
truck
and
you
look
at
the
back,
it's
got.
You
know
one
wheel
back
there,
so
just
like
a
car
that
so
they're,
mostly
looking
at
that
which,
which
would
be
a
single
rear
axle.
They
are
capable.
They
do
have
the
capability
to
make
it
a
dual
rear
axle.
C
B
About
them,
too,
is
like
their
design
was
like
made
to
just
be
as
functional
as
possible
for
the
users
so
they're
showing
us,
like
you
know
they
put
garbage
bins
in
the
school
buses
because,
like
the
school
bus
driver
needed
a
garbage,
can
otherwise
they're
always
hanging
those.
You
know
garbage
like
they
were
just
really
smart
about
stuff
like
that.
But
what
was
so
impressive
was
when
you,
when
we
think
about
like
converting
over
our
bus
fleet.
You
know
the
county
bus
fleet,
it's
always
like.
How
are
we
going
to
charge
this
thing?
B
They
have
two
levels:
they
have
two
ports
for
batteries
so
that
you
can
just
charge
up
on
a
level
two
charger
overnight,
like
you
would
any
other
any
other
fleet.
You
know
like
sedan
vehicle,
so
they
just
made
it
super
user
friendly
so
that
you
don't
have
to
install
any
additional
infrastructure
to
handle
a
large
truck
like
that.
You
could
just
do
it
on
regular
level,
two
pull
up
anywhere
and
fill.
C
And
rebecca's
right,
they
are
so
innovative,
yeah
thinking
I
mean
they.
You
know,
I
think
the
coolest
thing
other
than
them
having
these
large
electric
vehicles.
The
coolest
thing
I
remember,
seeing
like
like
rebecca
said
that
you
know
the
garbage
can
idea
of
putting
a
garbage
can
in
every
school
bus.
You
know
we
always
hear
these
stories
about.
You
know
on
these,
these
kids,
who
fall
asleep
on
the
bus
and
they
end
up
back
at
the
bus
depot.
C
This
company
created
just
a
switch.
That's
in
the
back
of
the
bus
that
the
driver
has
to
walk
to
the
back
of
the
bus
and
flip
the
switch,
or
else
when
he
gets
off
the
bus.
An
alarm
will
go
off
and
the
bus
won't
shut
off.
It
won't
stop
with
the
alarm
until
he
walks
the
back
and
switches
the
switch
and
and
that
alone,
that
simple
thing
mitigates
the
problem
of
these
kids
being
left
on
the
bus
this
this
company.
They
they
think
of
everything.
A
C
A
You
kiss
him
on
the
head
when
they
get
on,
you
say:
don't
fall
asleep
in
the
afternoon,
like
yeah
rebecca,
you
touched
a
little
bit
on
this,
but
it
you
just
picked
up
again
the
infrastructure
challenge
like
the
transition
to
electric
vehicles.
It's
one
thing
about
designing
like
a
really
cool
vehicle,
but
it's
also
another
thing
about
having
the
infrastructure
there
to
support
it.
I
mean
what
what
are
some
of
the
things
that
are
needed
to
help
facilitate
that
transition.
B
Well,
it
requires
a
lot
of
partnership
with
like
the
utility
company.
So
do
you
like,
I
think,
one
of
the
challenge,
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
that
we
have
is
like,
there's
no
maps
or
diagrams
about
which
of
our
facilities
have
which
type
of
service
or
require
upgrades
in
order
to
to
add
anything
there.
So
every
single
time
we're
looking
to
cite
a
piece
of
you
know:
charging
infrastructure
at
one
of
our
facilities.
It's
like
the
same
process
over
and
over
again,
there's
just
no
like
streamlined
way
to
go
about
it.
B
Like
you
have
to
have
a
meeting
at
the
site,
we
have
to
assess
it.
You
have
to
call
an
electrician,
but
you
know
having
some
kind
of
like
a
map
or
analysis
of
what
exists.
Where
would
be
helpful,
so
we
could
at
least
start
to
prioritize
where
we're
going
to
cite
stuff
and
then
yeah
I
mean,
especially
in
some
of
those
like
parking.
Lots
are
a
great
place
to
be
put
in
infrastructure,
but
parking
lots
aren't
always
tied
up
to
the
grid.
B
B
So
just
you
know,
run
it
figuring
out
where
we're
going
to
site
things
and
running
cables
and
running
conduit
and
crunching
there's
just
a
lot
of
it
varies
from
site
to
site
and
it
could
be
really
complicated
or
it
could
be
really
easy,
and
it's
really,
you
know,
complicated
to
figure
out
it's
it's
time
intensive
to
figure
out
which
sites
are
going
to
be
well
primed
for
it
yeah.
If
you
had
anything
else
to
add
to
that.
C
Yeah,
I
mean
just
exactly
what
what
rebecca
said.
I
mean
it
just
and
you
know
the
city
we're
an
older
city,
so
a
lot
of
our
buildings
are
older
too.
So
the
electrical
infrastructure
that's
already
there.
Some
of
it
needs
upgraded
and
replaced.
So
just
you
know
trying
to
come
up
with
all
the
resources
and
and
the
the
people
who
know
what
they're
doing
and
coordinating
it
all
it
can
be
a
little
troublesome.
A
You
know
you
guys
are
this
kind
of
effort.
I
mean
and
hearing
this
just
for
kind
of
folks
out
there,
like
you're,
really
at
the
the
vanguard
of
kind
of
the
this
next
generation
of
of
of
how
we
drive
right
and
what
we
drive
and
yeah.
You
could
foresee
that
there
there
probably
wasn't
there
wasn't
gas
stations
around.
You
know
when
the
horse
and
buggy
was
kind
of
losing
favor
right
to
the
model,
t
and
other
vehicles.
A
So
just
like,
I
think,
when
the
original
commercial
gas
stations
was
over
in
east
liberty,
I
think
was
one
of
those
stocks.
You
know
so
pittsburgh
is
kind
of
on
the
map
right
now
because
of
this
work,
I
mean
what
are
some
things?
Let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
future.
I
mean
both
from
an
infrastructure
side
rebecca,
but
also
from
a
vehicle
side.
Brandon
like
what
are
you
guys
seeing
in
the
next?
C
Okay,
so
you
know
we're
gonna
continue
to
focus
on
these
sedans
because
that's
you
know
right
now:
the
availability
of
vehicles
that
that's
what's
available,
but
we're
we're
really
excited.
I
don't
know
if
everybody's
heard
of
lordstown
motors-
oh
yeah,
yes,
so
they
they
have
they
own
the
the
gm
plant
that
was
in
lourdes
town.
C
Yeah
yeah
and
they
they
retooled
it
and
they
are
building
the
first
all-electric
pickup
truck
that
will
be
available
for
mass
production
to
fleets
and
they're
they're,
holding
it
to
fleets.
Only
so
you
know
I
can't
go,
buy
a
lordstown
truck
for
personal
use,
but
I
can
buy
them
for
the
city
so
we're
you
know
dependent
on
funding.
Next
year
we
are
hoping
to
purchase
15
to
20
of
those
wow
and
add
those
to
our
fleet.
So
we're
really
excited
about
that.
You
know
one
to
three
years.
A
C
C
C
Yeah,
if
anybody
had
any
doubts
about
the
capability
of
an
electric
vehicle,
they
should
really
look
at
that
youtube.
Video,
that's
directly
from
ford,
and
it
really
that
truck
really
did
that.
It
really
pulled
a
hundred
000
pound
train,
and
then
you
know
they
loaded
the
train
full
of
f-150s
and
it
pulled
it
again.
C
B
Out
so
on
the
charging
side,
I
mean
right
now
we're
pretty
hyper
focused
on
making
sure
that
we
have
enough
juice
for
our
vehicles,
our
vehicle
fleet,
so
we've
we're
kind
of
going
between
dc
fast
chargers.
So
that's
a
gas
station
type
of
model
of
charging,
so
it
takes
about
25
minutes
to
charge
a
sedan
up
to
about
80
percent
charge,
a
typical
sedan,
electric
sedan
and
then
level.
B
Two
is
that
that
charge
that
goes
overnight,
so
we're
trying
to
strike
the
right
balance
to
figure
out
you
know
which
facilities
are
we
gonna
be
installing
charging
infrastructure
at
which
vehicle?
How
many
level
twos
do
we
need
how
many
dc
fast
chargers
do
we
need?
We
probably
don't
need
a
level
two
for
every
single
vehicle
which
was
kind
of
the
thought
you
know
a
few
years
ago,
but
as
the
technology
changes,
you
know
our
our
our
intentions,
kind
of
change,
the
other.
B
The
other
thing
that
you
know
we're
looking
to
do
too
is
any
infrastructure
that
we're
installing.
Could
we
also
find
some
kind
of
public
benefit,
so
we've
been
working
a
lot
with
the
parking
authority
a
lot?
Some
of
our
fleets
sweeps
at
the
parking
authority.
Lots.
So
is
there.
You
know
a
way
that
we
could
install
the
infrastructure,
have
charging
have
chargers
for
our
fleet,
but
then
also
offer
it
to
the
public
for
public
charging
options
right
now.
B
We
don't
really
have
a
whole
lot
of
public
charging
options
in
the
city
we
have.
We
have
some
in
our
garages,
we
have
about
35
downtown
and
then
the
third
level
of
that
is
the
energy
source
switch.
So
just
because
we're
switching
over
to
electric
doesn't
mean
that
you
know
a
lot.
A
lot
of
our
intentions
here
are
for
air
quality.
B
But
also
for
you
know,
emissions
reduction
purposes,
and
if
we're
you
know
in
our
area,
we
don't
necessarily
have
a
clean
grid.
I
guess
in
pittsburgh
we
do
have
about
70
nuclear,
but
could
we
switch
to
local
renewable
for
our
charging
infrastructure?
So
could
we
also
site?
You
know
a
solar
canopy
like
we're
planning
to
do
at
second
avenue
in
a
future
future
phase,
but
could
we
we
do
that
across
the
facility
so
that
we
kind
of
have
a
holistic.
A
A
You
know
a
couple
final
questions
here
before
we
wrap
up
brandon.
One
of
the
things
that
I
kind
of
hit
on
my
my
nephew
is
an
aspiring.
Gearhead
has
a
couple
cars
he's
working
on
in
his
garage,
and
I
was
talking
to
him
about
the
work
that
you
know
you
guys
are
doing
and
just
driving
an
electric
vehicle
and
he's
like
you
know
he
kind
of
rebuffs
me
just
like
any
any.
You
know
19
20
year
old
kid
would
do
you've
kind
of
run.
A
C
I
think
it's
a
mixture
of
both.
You
know
it's
it's
difficult
in
terms
of
now.
We
have
to
learn
a
new
way
of
make
of
maintenance,
a
new
way
of
thinking
in
terms
of
you
know,
refueling
the
vehicles
and
just
everything,
and
then
I
think
it's
exciting
in
the
sense
that
you
know
we're
transitioning
to
something
new.
Just
like
you
know,
when
we
went
from
horse-drawn
carriages
to
cars,
I
I
think
it's.
C
You
know
a
lot
of
things
that
that
that
you
hear
or
where
am
I
going
to
charge
it
and
it's
so
expensive
to
put
a
charger
at
home-
and
you
know
we
don't
have
gas
stations
at
home
either
you
know
and
as
the
dc
fast
charging
technology
gets
better,
I
mean,
I
think,
tesla
and
chargepoint
both
are
launching
new
dc
fast
chargers
soon
that
will
be
capable
of
charging
a
240
mile
battery
in
15
minutes.
So
I
mean
a
gas
station.
Stop
is
usually
about
10
to
15
minutes
right.
C
A
Awesome,
that's
cool
to
hear
so
just
to
wrap
up.
We
have
a
kind
of
the
final
segment
here.
We
always
kind
of
asked
our
guests
rebecca,
and
I
check
in
a
little
bit
we
like
to
see
what
what
folks
are
listening
to
watching
or
reading.
Is
there
anything
kind
of
interesting
out
there,
maybe
rebecca
that
you've
consumed
in
the
last
week
or
brandon
that
you
want
to
share
with
folks.
C
A
B
C
B
B
B
C
I
guess
my
topic's
kind
of
kind
of
actually
related,
just
because
I've
been
kind
of
tasked
with
trying
to
find
some
alternative,
garbage
truck
models
and
it
makes
a
model,
so
I've
been
doing
a
lot
of
research
on
garbage
trucks.
So
it's
it's
really
interesting
to
see
the
different
companies
europe
is
is
so
far
ahead
of
us
right
now
in
terms
of
technology
and
in
ev
vehicles,
but
really
interesting
to
see
the
couple
electric
vehicles
that
are
that
are
now
being
used
in
in
europe
to
pick
up
waste.
A
Me
I
just
started
the
fifth
season
of
revisionist
history
with
malcolm
gladwell,
his
his
his
podcast
and
the
first
two
episodes.
He
is
drawing
kind
of
the
connection
between
museums
and
hoarding
and
which
is
pretty
fascinating,
stuff
and
actually
just
a
quick
plug.
The
warhol
museum
over
on
the
north
side
makes
a
cameo
appearance
in
the
first
episode.
A
So
pittsburgh
is
prominently,
prominently
positioned
in
the
first
season
or
excuse
me,
the
fifth
season
of
gladwell's
podcast
there
so
highly
highly
recommend
it
it's
it's
it's
it's
a
mind.
Bender
like
you're,
you're
kind
of
walking
along
and
you're,
like
oh
yeah,
and
then
you're
like
what
so
he
does.
A
Job
of
kind
of
tying
the
narration
together,
so
it's
pretty
cool.
So,
oh
that's
on
my
listening
list.
Awesome
I'll,
tell
you
what
pittsburgh's
electric
version
of
click
and
clack.
We
really
appreciate
you
guys
and
the
work
that
you're
doing
we're
gonna,
send
this
demo
tape
to
the
guys
at
the
real
click
and
clack
at
npr
and
see
if
we
can
get
you
a
segment
on
there.
A
David
feiner
at
the
cable
bureau
has
an
end
so
we'll
see
if
we
can
send
the
audition
tape
there
and
maybe
get
you
guys
to
go
national
so
well,
thanks
so
much
brandon.
We
appreciate
your
time
rebecca
I'll,
see
you
in
the
next
zoom
call,
probably
sooner
rather
than
later.
Thank
you
all
for
listening
and
we
really
appreciate
it.
Thanks
to
david
and
bill
on
the
whole
cable
team
for
their
production
efforts
here,
much
appreciated
and
listen
in
next
time.
This
is
the
grant
street
experience.