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From YouTube: The Grant Street Experience: Melanie Ondek
Description
On this episode of The Grant Street Experience, Grant Ervin and Rebecca Kiernan talk to City of Pittsburgh Senior Grants Officer Melanie Ondek.
A
Hello
and
welcome
to
the
grant
street
experience,
I'm
your
host
grant
urban
chief
resilience
officer
for
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
The
grand
street
experience
is
our
podcast
about
all
the
fun
and
interesting
things
and
people
that
are
happening
along
grant
street,
and
today
we
have
our
terrific
co-host,
rebecca
kiernan
rebecca.
How
are
you
today
good.
B
A
A
A
So
maybe
get
started
if
you
could
share
with
listeners
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
kind
of
you
know
the
work
that
you
do
with
the
city
and
how
you
came
to
work
at
the
city
of
pittsburgh.
Folks
are
always
kind
of
interested
in
that.
Just
maybe
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
melanie
on
deck
there
yeah.
C
A
flower
shop
and
greenhouse
business,
so
she
worked,
you
know
24
7,
but
anytime
she
wasn't
working.
She
was
inside
either
working
on
her
paperwork
or
whatever,
with
c-span
on
in
the
background,
so
I
came
from
a
very
politically
engaged
family
early
on,
so
I
think
that
was
sort
of
the
the
precedent
that
was
set.
It
was
always
like
we
go
vote
together.
We
talk
about
politics
like
it's
the
thing
that's
important
in
our
family,
so
I
don't
think
I
realized
how
important
that
would
be
to
me
until
I
started
going
to
school.
C
So
I
got
my
undergrad
at
st
vincent
college
in
sociology,
I've
always
been
fascinated
by
people
and
how
structures
and
other
things
sort
of
interplay
with
one
another.
And
then,
after
that
I
got
my
graduate
degree
in
public
policy
from
duquesne
university.
So
from
there
it
was
sort
of
a
okay.
Well
now
I've
got
a
policy
degree
and
I
definitely
don't
want
to
run
for
office
so
like
now.
What
do
I
do.
C
A
There
there
is,
I
am
not
a
bearcat,
but
I
have
many
friends
that
are
saint
vincent's
college
alumni,
so
I
grew
up
in
the
back
kind
of
sort
of
the
backyard
of
latrobe.
So
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
out
there
myself
and
then
also.
I
want
to
note
that
our
demographic,
our
listeners,
closely
mirror
the
c-span
listeners,
so
you
are.
A
B
C
Okay,
studied
public
policy
at
duquesne
and
was
like
all
right.
Well,
I
don't
want
to
run
for
office
and
I'm
not
super
politically
involved
anywhere.
So
like
what?
What
is
my
next
step-
and
I
honestly
just
kind
of
stumbled
upon
an
internship
opportunity
and
it
was
actually
the
ravenstahl
administration,
it
was
an
unpaid
internship
and
I
had
just
graduated-
and
I
was
like
this-
might
this:
is
it
like?
I'm
gonna,
try
it
out
and
see
what
happens.
C
A
bloomberg
philanthropy
funded
sort
of
arm
of
the
mayor's
office
that
was
really
focused
on
volunteerism,
which
was
really
a
cool
experience.
So
I
got
grants
sort
of
in-city
government
really
early
on
from
the
perspective
of
applying
for
and
managing
grants,
and
then
after
that
and
the
peduto
administration,
they
created
the
grants
office.
C
They
created
sort
of
a
centralized
grants
office
before
that
it
was
all
sort
of
desperate
all
over
the
place,
people
kind
of
applied
for
what
they
wanted
to
when
they
wanted
to,
without
really
talking
to
the
administration
about
priorities
and
like
making
sure
that
we
were
integrated
with
the
budget
process.
So
mayor
penuto
came
on
and
said,
I
think
we
need
this,
so
we've
set
out
over
the
last
oh
six
years
to
establish
our
office
as
which
seems
like
a
very
long
time.
C
B
C
Funding
we
get
all
of
it,
so
the
coolest
part
of
my
job-
and
maybe
this
is
the
question
you
have
later-
is
that
I
get
to
work
with
every
single
city
department,
every
single
director
everybody
in
between.
So
I
get
to
see
a
lot
of
different
folks
and
get
to
know
a
lot
of
different
folks
in
different
projects.
So
all
the
time-
and
you.
C
Yeah
you
know
I
wish
that
there
were
more
of
us,
because
I
wish
we
could
all
take
deeper
dives
into
all
of
the
work
that
we
do.
So
there
are
only.
There
are
three
of
us
total
in
the
office,
two
of
us
who
work
primarily
on
the
pre-award
side
of
things
or
the
application
side
of
things,
and
then
one
person
who
works
on
the
post-award
side
of
things
or
the
management
side
of
things.
So
we've
got
two
people
sort
of
trying
to
facilitate
all
of
these
different
relationships
and
simultaneous
deadlines
all
the
time.
C
So
sometimes
I
get
to
take
slightly
deeper
dives
if,
if
my
schedule
allows
and
other
times,
not
so
much,
but
if
you
want
to
talk
about
sort
of
some
of
my
favorite
grant,
experiences
and
rebecca
can
relate
to
this.
I
think
bloomberg.
Philanthropies
comes
up
time
and
time
again
in
my
work
as
being
some
of
my
favorite,
because
they
really
have
their
stuff
together
in
terms
of
how
you
really
think
about
a
problem
and
a
solution
in
a
really
meaningful
way.
Rather
than
you
know
what
we
try
to
avoid
in
a
grand
situation
is
well.
C
A
C
C
But
now
now
you
have
a
funder
who's
holding
your
feet
to
the
fire.
To
do
that.
So
what
I
appreciate
about,
like
a
bloomberg
philanthropies,
is
taking
that
deeper
dive.
So
I
think
it
was
2017.
We
got
to
work
on
a
mayor's
challenge,
application
which
I
got
to
be
on
the
project
team
for
which
was
really
exciting,
because
usually
I'm
sort
of
that
touch
point
who's
like
in
and
out
throughout
the
grants
process,
and
I'm
not
necessarily
one
of
the
boots
on
the
ground,
actually
doing
the
learning
and
working
alongside
my
colleagues.
C
So
that
was
a
cool
experience
in
that
we
got
to
travel
and
we
got
to
do
human
center
design
workshops,
that's
sort
of
where
I
learned
about
human
centered
design
and
what
that
was,
and
what
that
meant
and
just
being
able
to
distill
sort
of
these
big
ideas
down
into
workable
actual
pliable
projects,
because
a
lot
of
times
people
have
these
really
big
ideas.
But
it's
a
it's
a
process
to
narrow
that
down
into
something
that's
meaningful.
A
B
B
C
So
in
that
process
with
bloomberg,
we
got
to
talk
to
a
multitude
of
of
people,
so
it
was
not
just
politicians
and
not
just
department
heads
and
not
just
people
working
at
the
city,
it
was,
it
was
non-profits,
it
was
profits.
It
was
you
know,
those
other
folks
in
the
room
who
actually
do
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we,
as
policy
makers,
try
to
influence
and
sometimes
think
that
we
have
the
answer
before
we
have
those
kinds
of
conversations.
So
it
helps
you
sort
of
take
a
a
road
like
this.
C
That
gets
you
to
a
point
b
that
I
think,
is
a
smarter
way
of
working
and
it
doesn't
always
work
out
that
way
because
it
is
a
long,
rigorous
process.
So
it's
an
it's
more
of
an
ideal
case
of
how
we
work,
but
I
think
we,
as
city
government
have
done
a
much
better
job
of
that
since,
since
that
project
I
know
I've.
I've
definitely
taken
some
of
those
tools
and
techniques
along
with
me
and
used
them
elsewhere.
B
I
was
just
thinking
of
like
some
of
the
projects
that
we've
done
or
applied
for
grants
for
since
then,
and
it
seems
like
we're
a
little
bit
more
targeted
on
what
are
those
projects
that
we're
already
doing
or
the
ones
that
will
make
the
most
sense
it
seems.
Like
you
know,
we've
carried
forward
some
of
some
of
the
learnings
from
how
do
you?
How
do
you
develop
like
a
good
project.
A
C
Well-
and
I
think
that's
the
cool
part
of
grant
applications,
is
they
force
you
into
that
process?
Whether
or
not
you
want
to
so
so.
You
know,
for
instance,
if
we
have
somebody
who
says
there's
this
program,
that
new
york
city
does
that
we
really
want
to
do
here
so
we'll
sit
down
and
talk
about
sort
of
the
ins
and
outs
of
what
that
project
may
look
like
in
their
ideal
world,
and
then
we
actually
use
a
software
called
ecivis.
So
we
have
a
pretty.
C
C
You're
looking
at
sort
of
the
local
foundation
and
national
foundations,
those
ones
can
be
a
bit
of
an
oddball
and
we'll
use
our
software
to
look
up
keywords
and
we
have
searches
that
we
run
every
every
day.
The
first
thing
I
do
when
I
come
and
sit
down
on
my
computer
is
look
through
all
of
the
grants
that
have
come
out
that
day,
so
I've
got.
C
You
know
pretty
good
eyeballs
on
what's
out
there
and
if
I
always
tell
people
if
you
have
an
idea
like
let's
talk
about
it,
because
if
you
don't
tell
me
about
it,
I
don't
know
what
I'm
looking
for
and
what's
going
to
be
most
helpful
to
you.
So
after
we
talk
through
sort
of
all
the
programmatic
details
of
what
they
want.
Let's
say
I
find
an
opportunity
that
I
think
may
fit.
You
know
it
may
not
fit
their
entire
program,
but
it
may
fit
one
aspect
of
that
program.
C
A
C
So
that's
all
of
us
recouping
funds
related
to
the
pandemic,
whether
that's
you
know
personal
protective
equipment
or
other
things
that
we've
needed
to
spend
salary
money
on,
because
we
needed
overtime.
You
know
things
like
that,
so
we've
during
the
pandemic.
That
has
definitely
been
the
highlight
of
things
that
are
happening,
and
I
would
say
probably
our
asks
now
are
much
more
focused
on
projects
that
exist
rather
than
new
ideas
that
are
coming
out.
Just
because
we
know
the
city's
coffers
are
getting
tighter
and
tighter
and
tighter.
C
Go
on
you
know:
local
foundations
have
shifted
a
lot
of
their
funding
to
emergency
relief,
so
I
think
we've
tapped
into
them
less
than
we
normally
would.
But
you
know
it's
it's
sort
of
like
we're
all
in
this
together
and
we're
all
kind
of
trying
to
figure
it
out.
So
the
shifts
are
still
happening.
They'll
continue
to
happen
and
depending
on
what
happens
in
this
next
presidential
election,
I
imagine
would
see
more
shifts
happening
at
the
federal
level
as
well,
which
obviously
trickles
down
to
state
and
local
funding
as
well.
C
A
C
C
But
there
was
a
program
out
there,
that
is
for
transportation
projects
and
it
usually
doesn't
come
out
when
it
came
out,
but
they
pushed
it
out
and
it
was
about
how
we
can
use
art
and
creative
spaces
to
keep
social
distancing
on
sidewalks
a
thing
and
how
how
we
can
use
that.
So
how
can
we
use
art
in
a
really
creative
way
during
a
pandemic,
which
is
something
we
obviously
wouldn't
have
seen
before?
A
Interesting
interesting,
you
guys
are
both
graduates
just
to
go
back
at
the
the
I'm
going
to
call
it.
The
bloomberg
school
in
in
terms
of
working
with
bloomberg,
philanthropies,
with
which
we've
like
a
lot
of
cities,
have
frankly
been
beneficiaries
of
some
of
the
creative
thinking
that
they
have
been
able
to
do
to
help
support
local
governments.
A
B
I
mean
yeah,
they
have
a
lot
of
testing
of
ideas
and
prototyping
that
I
think
you
don't
ever
really
hear
in
government.
Just
because
you
know
the
risk
is
so
high
with
taxpayer
dollars
right,
but
they
have,
I
think,
what's
really
good
about
bloomberg.
Is
that
they
they
have
processes
that
they
use
too,
to
keep
you
organized.
So
there's
like
step-by-step.
B
You
know
ways
to
to
go
about
testing
your
idea
or
bringing
a
group
together.
They
just
seem
to
have
it.
Have
it
all
together
started
to
go
through
through
another
one
recently
and
it's
it's.
It's
always
like
it's.
It's
the
same,
the
same
model
almost
with
like
the
same
learnings.
So
obviously
it's
you
know
a
process.
That's
like
tried
and
true.
C
A
I
I
just
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot
melanie,
you
you're.
Definitely,
the
podcast
rookie
and
david
just
cringed
you're,
our
first
piece
of
editing
that
we're
gonna
have
to
have
for
the
cable
channel,
but
you're
right
I
mean
it
it's
it's
I
mean
it.
It
is
a
discipline
that
you
know
we're
all
required
right.
A
How
do
we
extend
that
both
throughout
like
other
parts
of
city
government,
but
also
with
a
lot
of
the
partners
that
we
work
with
locally
in
terms
of
some
of
those
lessons?
Like
are
there
ways
that
we
can,
whether
it's
the
human
centered
design
work
or
the
communications
process?
Are
there
ways
that
we
can
extend
that
to
local
partners
and
local
philanthropy,
etc?.
B
B
Hire
people
to
be
the
coach
for
the
cities,
so
I
mean,
if
we
were
to
you,
know,
replicate
their
model.
You
would
you
need
somebody
who's
like
guiding
the
team
towards
doing
that.
So
I
would
say
the
coaching
like
you
can
use
their
blueprints,
but
you
really
just
need
that
central
person,
that's
keeping
everybody
to
task
and.
C
I
I
would
like
to
give
inp
our
innovation
and
performance
department
credit,
because
I
think
they've
done
a
really
good
job
of
looking
at
process
management.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
tapped
into
them
at
all,
but
we
use
them
as
sort
of
like
a
third-party
coach
for
looking
at
the
grants
process
and
what
we
currently
do
and
what
we
could
be
doing
better
and
like.
What's.
B
C
A
We
don't
have
to
edit
that
one.
I
think,
that's
good.
No,
I
mean
that's
a
good
point.
I
mean
like
whether
it's
the
business
resource
managers
that
inp
has,
I
think,
is
a
good
model
that
there
are,
you
know
effectively
guides
facilitators,
docents,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
to
help,
go
through
the
process
to
that
same
effect.
Really
because
you,
because
you
touch
and
we're
in
a
similar
kind
of
role,
you
touch
all
the
different
departments.
A
C
Definitely
a
hundred
percent.
Definitely,
yes,
you
know,
we've
done
a
really
good
job.
I
think
over
the
last,
however,
many
years
actually
breaking
down
silos
between
departments
and
sort
of
forging
those
relationships,
and
I
think
grants
often
time
again,
they
force
those
relationships
to
happen,
because
you
know,
for
instance,
if
we're
working
on
a
building
project,
it
probably
include
includes
dpw,
it
probably
includes
city
planning.
C
It
probably
includes
a
bunch
of
different
people
who
have
to
work
together,
and
then
you
find
when
you
have
those
people
in
the
room
talking
about
this
project.
Another
project
will
come
up
and
then
it's
like
wait.
A
second
we
haven't
talked
about
this
or
oh
wait.
A
second
we
haven't
talked
about
this,
so
it
is
a
unique
perspective
to
have
sort
of
this
bird's
eye
view
and
say
well
wait.
Maybe
we
should
be
thinking
about
this
person
and
this
person
working
on
this.
A
A
Yeah
I'd
agree,
I
mean
it,
it
gets
you
to
put.
In
fact,
I
was
just
talking
with
rebecca
just
a
heads
up
with
tree
pittsburgh
about
this
yesterday
about
the
allegheny
river
greenway.
Like
you
know,
one
of
the
we
had
missed
a
grants
that
we
missed
a
grant
cycle
with
dcd
for
an
opportunity
that
was
available
and
just
didn't
have
kind
of
the
idea
together
yet
from
what
they
were
explaining
to
me.
I
said
you
know
it.
A
C
A
Maybe
take
that
from
there,
then
I
mean
what
happens,
though,
like
how
do
we
keep
ideas
alive
because
you
lose
more
than
you
win
in
the
grant
space?
I
don't
know
what
our
hit
rate
is,
but
it
always
feels
that
way,
anyways,
no
matter
how
how
brilliant
the
ideas
are
and
how
strong
the
team
is
like
you're
not
going
to
win
all
the
time
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
C
C
It's
those
people
who
are
at
the
table
saying
no
this
project.
This
is
this
is
what
we
should
use
this
grant
funding
for.
So
we
often
times
and
you've
been
in
these
conversations
when
there's
a
grant
opportunity
that
comes
up
and
it
could
be,
you
know
a
multitude
of
projects,
it's
not
just
one.
Definitely,
this
is
what
we're
applying
for
you
know.
You've
got
to
have
those
different
voices
at
the
table,
sort
of
standing
up
for
their
idea
and
saying
no.
C
This
is
what
I
want
to
fund,
and
this
is
the
project
I
mean,
I
think,
right
now.
A
lot
of
projects
again
are
being
driven
by
budget
conversations
that
are
happening
just
because
they
have
to
be,
but
I
I
think
that's
something
that
we
probably
could
do
a
better
job
of
is
how
do
we
keep
those
conversations
going
with
projects
that
just
sort
of
die
and
they
do
and
and
oftentimes?
I
think
that's
the
trouble
with
grant
funding
right.
It's
like
you
have
this
idea.
B
C
Be
thinking
of
the
what's
next
and
that's
why
it's
so
important
that
you're
applying
for
projects
that
are
really
meaningful
for
your
department
and
for
you
as
an
individual,
that
you
can
keep
going
and
that
have
a
lot
of
value
for
you.
Otherwise
I
mean
people.
I
always
tell
people
grants
equal
work.
They
are
not
just
free
money
by
any
means.
C
Somebody's
got
to
do
the
management
and
somebody's
got
to
do
the
hard
work,
and
you
know
what
does
that
look
like
when
the
grant
funding
is
gone
and
we
have
those
conversations
all
the
time,
because
a
pro
a
program
shouldn't
in
theory
just
go
away
because
the
grant
funding
is
gone.
So
the
city
often
absorbs
a
lot
of
those
costs,
whether
that's
for
a
program
or
for
a
position
that
we
funded.
A
You
know
recognizing
the
value
creation
that
they
have,
I
think,
has
been
been
so
important
for
kind
of
our
sustainability
work,
and
I
know
it's
been
true
for
others
as
well.
What
what
do
you
guys
see?
I
think,
on
the
horizon,
I
mean
we're
in
this
pandemic.
We're
creeping
into
q4
budget
challenges
are
a
reality.
A
C
Oh,
I
mean
I
think
it's
going
to
be
absolutely
critical
going
forward.
I
think,
probably
now
more
than
ever
grants
offices
across
the
country
are
thinking.
Oh,
my
goodness.
What
are
we
doing
and
in
fact
I've
had
two
different
grants:
offices
reach
out
to
me
specifically
just
to
talk
about
sort
of
how
pittsburgh
has
done
it
because
we
have
you
know
we
have
a
fancy.
C
And
I
think
you
know
the
truth
is
like
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
what
the
what
the
landscape
looks
like
for
national
foundations.
I
don't
know
what
their
coffers
look
like.
I
don't
know
what
local
foundations
look
like.
I
think
we're
probably
looking
at
much
heavier
federal
and
state
applications
coming
up
more
than
anything
else.
A
C
I
I
mean,
I
think,
we're
pretty
lean
and
mean
we
actually
had
a
conversation
with
detroit
and
their
post
award.
Team
alone
was
like
over
17
people,
and
we
were
like
what
they've
got
like
these
implementation,
coaches
and
all
of
this
cool
stuff.
So
I
think
we
have
a
ways
we
could
go,
but
I
think
we
do
really
well
for
what
we
have.
You
know.
I
think
our
budget
office
has
done
a
really
good
job
of
making
sure
that
we
have
what
we
need
and
that
we're
working
with
the
right
people.
C
B
A
C
So
I
think,
like
like
you're
saying
given,
given
the
resources
that
we
have,
I
think,
we're
doing
a
pretty
great
job.
Certainly,
there's
always
room
for
reiteration
and
improvement
on
what
we're
doing,
and
I
think
we
try
our
best
to
make
sure
that
we
stay
engaged
in
that
and
make
sure
that
we're
looking
at
how
we
do
things
and
how
we
can
do
things
better
on
a
yearly
basis.
So.
C
Don't
know
the
answer
to
that,
I
can
tell
you
that,
as
of
january
from
january,
until
about
mid
august,
we
had
secured
like
4.6
million
in
grants,
which
you
know
it
varies
wildly.
You
know
people
ask
well,
what's
your
win
rate
and
it's
like
well,
that's
not,
it
depends
on
the
year.
It
depends
on
what
we
applied
for
it's
not
really
a
fair
statistic
to
give
you.
B
C
C
But
yeah
I
don't.
I
don't
know
what
that
percentage
is,
but
I
I
would
hope
that
it's
increasing
steadily
throughout
the
years
as
we
get
a
better
handle
on
things.
You
know
when,
when
I
first
started,
we
really
weren't
applying
for
very
many
state
grants.
We
were
leaving
a
lot
of
money
on
the
table
so.
A
Yeah,
it's
important
to
do
that
prospecting
right,
I
mean
to
understand
kind
of.
What's
out,
you
know
understand
what
your
needs
are,
but
then
also,
what's
out
there
see
how
you
match
up
you.
One
final
question
for
me:
just
to
kind
of
pivot
a
little
bit,
but
in
that
sense
you
almost
have
no
matter
what
the
award
size
is.
You
still
have
to
put
in
somewhat
the
same
amount
of
work.
Don't
you
like
a
ten
thousand
dollar
grant
and
the
one
million
dollar
grant.
A
C
A
A
Excuse
me
we'd
just
like
to
see
what
what
you're
reading,
what
you're
listening
to
and
what
you're
watching
it
just
is
a
way
to
both
build
our
own
entertainment
libraries,
but
we're
particularly
in
this
time
of
the
pandemic.
We've
been
interested
to
just
learn
what
our
colleagues
are
are
consuming,
whether
it's
heavy,
whether
it's
light,
so
we
just
want
to
put
that
in
front
and
and
see
what
melanie
on
deck
is
reading
reading,
watching
or
listening
to.
C
C
Okay,
it's
great
what
I'm
reading,
I
can't
say
the
title
because
there's
a
swear
word
in
it,
but
it's
it's
called
the
it's
called
the
efit
diet
and
it's
all
about
anti-diet
culture
stuff,
which
is
really
fascinating.
So
anybody
who's
been
on
a
million
diets
here
and
there
you
read
this
book
and
it's
like:
oh
well,
here's
here's
another
alternative
for
you!.
A
A
C
So
it's
been
interesting
to
see
the
I
think
for
me
in
particular
the
fashion
trends
that
were
really
popular
that
I
used
to
you
know
you
used
to
wear
like
the
cornrows
in
your
hair,
with
the
little
butterfly
clips
that
held
it
back,
and
then
you
curled
it,
and
I
was
like
oh
man,
I
used
to
love
that
hair
and
I
wonder
when
it's
coming
back,
you
know
was
watching
a
bunch
of
high
school
kids
and,
and
it
was
it's
been
incredibly
enjoyable.
I've
loved
every
minute
of
it.
C
C
Yeah,
it's
a
it's
a
very
it's
an
anti-diet
culture
book.
So
it's
it's
primarily
for
women,
I
would
say,
and
all
of
the
pressures
that
we
have
around
being
a
very
particular
way
all
the
time
and
how
being
so
obsessed
with
diet,
culture
and
food
culture
and
what
that
does
to
your
psyche
and
how
you
can
learn
how
to
let
that
go
a
little
bit
and
be
a
person
who
enjoys
having
a
social
life
and
isn't
you
know,
sitting
there
counting
calories
on
their
phone
while
they're
out
to
dinner
and
all
those
things.
C
A
C
I
mean
I
listen
to
all
of
my
books,
so
I'm
an
audiobook
junkie.
I
listen
to
a
lot
of
books
every
year,
just
going
for
walks.
I
wouldn't
say
it's
very
scientific.
She
does
quote
a
lot
of
scientific
things
in
it,
but
it's
definitely
a
lighter
read.
So
if
anybody
out
there
is
looking
for
something
sort
of
a
little
bit
lighter-hearted,
but
also
very
heavy
in
other
ways
too.
That's
great
and
I've
also
been
on
the
trend
of
glenn
and
doyle's
new
book,
and
I
don't
know
why
the
name
is
is
escaping
me.
B
A
A
It
was
you
know,
a
lot
focused
on
kind
of
technique,
but
he's
really
kind
of
got
into
a
lot
of
the
aspects
of
like
mental
training
and
it's
just
some
really
good
ones
like
kevin
alco
who's.
A
motivational
speaker
is
the
guy
that
was
on
just
this
past
week
that
you
you
would
probably
you
would
dig
it.
He
has.
Was
it
26
or
27
championship
rings,
and
so
he
works
with.
A
You
know
pro
and
college
sports,
and
you
know
just
a
super
kind
of
you
know
introspective
kind
of
person,
and
then
he
also
has
this
week.
I'm
listening
to.
He
has
georgie
broonbails,
who
is
she's
a
trainer
and
specializes
in
kind
of
women's
training
matters,
so
she's
a
marathon
runner
and
just
goes
into
some
really
great
stuff
that
it's
pretty
pretty.
A
B
C
I
just
had
a
I
was
outside
this
morning.
I
was
getting
a
cup
of
coffee
and
I
saw
something
fly
past
my
window,
so
I
have
chickens
too
and
in
my
backyard
and
obviously
they
were
away.
I
don't
keep
them
out
all
day,
but
there
was
a
giant
hawk
who
landed
on
my
chicken
coop
and
was
just
hanging
out
there.
So
I
get
to
enjoy
a
little
bit
of
nature
and
unplug
it
at
my
house
too.
B
C
B
A
A
Excellent,
thank
you
rebecca
and
thank
you
all
for
listening
to
the
grant
street
experience.
We
appreciate
you
guys
tuning
in
to
us
thanks
to
bill
david
and
alex
on
our
cable
team
and
producing
this
quality.
Another
quality
episode
of
the
grand
streaks
experience
thanks
all
and
we'll
talk
to
you
soon
take.