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A
A
Okay?
Do
you
affirm
that
you
will
tell
the
truth?
Thank
you.
We
have
no
cases
before
us
today,
so
we
are
going
to
jump
right
into
communications,
which
is
where
most
of
our
businesses
on
Monday
council
discussed
the
development
off
of
Route
56,
Brett
Hayes
development,
and
they
discussed
the
sewer
accessory
service
extension.
Paul
was
okay.
A
B
Couple
things
occurred:
we
have
a
policy
for
extension
outside
the
city
limits
for
sewer
and
water.
Some
of
it
requires
that
both
sewer
and
water
should
be
put
together.
I
believe
I
gave
you
a
package
with
some
of
that
dialogue
in
there.
What
they
brought
up
was
there
they're
going
to
put
an
ordinance
in
place
if
I
gave
you
a
copy
of.
B
This
is
from
the
Utilities
Commission
and
committee
Monday
night,
and
essentially
it
is
authorizing
putting
conditions
on
any
extension
of
the
sewer
system
outside
the
city
limits,
and
it
shall
read
it
into
the
record.
If
you
choose
it
says,
whereas
the
city
water
is
not
available
to
sit
properly,
the
area
is
serviced
by
the
Lea
acts.
B
District
annexation
of
property
is
required
prior
to
set
sewer
extension,
whereas
the
execute
agreement
with
Lea
acts
is
in
place
for
collection
of
where
an
execution
agreement
with
Lea
export
district
is
in
place
to
port
collection
of
monthly
food
musa
fees.
And
whereas
the
owner
agrees,
the
developer
would
submit
a
plan
for
you
under
athens
city
code,
title
41
and
where
is
the
own
agrees
to
pay
all
the
costs
associated
with
the
extension
and
maintenance
of
a
sewer
line
to
the
property,
including
a
cost
of
acquiring
necessary
he's
managed
to
access
the
property?
B
And
whereas
the
line
installation
said
line
installation
performed
by
the
autumn,
meats
city
specification
and
whereas
the
owner
understands
that
the
tap
is
limited
to
the
post.
Holes
of
first
ability
and
I
think
they
wanted
to
amend
that
to
just
facility
assisted
living
facility,
no
guarantee
of
service
for
the
entire
project
and
whereas
the
prot
end
with
no
guarantee
of
service
of
time
project.
Now,
whereas
the
property
miss
to
be
contiguous
with
a
city
corporation
limit,
whereas
the
tappero
expires,
if
not
fall
within
two
years
from
the
date
of
the
adoption
of
the
ordinance.
B
Well,
actually,
the
Gumpert
number
in
there
section
two
says
service
secretaries
here
us
authorized,
an
initial
tap
upset
property
when
accident
annexation
is
completed
that,
as
also
was
amended
to
add
to
it,
you'll
see
it's
been
drawn
in,
provide
that
the
pressures
are
sufficient
to
meet
EPA
minimums
and
all
technical
requirements
admit
and
of
course,
the
last
one
is
course
eyewitness
of
a
full
force
ineffective
earliest
moment.
For
me
of
passage,
this
was
a
discussion
there.
B
Part
of
the
part
of
the
discussion
had
to
do
with
the
policy
guidelines
and
there's
the
other
pages
you
have
with
you.
Are
the
analysis
I
think
that
came
from
discussions
with
the
administration.
I
mean
basically
department
heads
in
particular
water
department,
the
other
one
is
a
response
from
the
owner,
a
policy
guideline
for
response
to
the
first
one,
a
policy
that
they
were
submitted
to
grant
the
ordinance
has
to
say
is
pretty
much
it's
in
action
right
now
or
will
be
I'm,
not
sure.
B
A
A
C
A
B
B
B
C
B
C
B
A
C
B
A
A
A
B
A
B
A
D
Yes,
that
it
would
affect
a
few
businesses
where
he's
trying
to
determine
how
many
other
businesses
with
effect.
Obviously
everybody
knows
this
is
Japan.
He
talked
to
has
been
directed
towards
bronies
Oh,
Betty's
I.
It
could
affect
businesses
like
that,
especially
in
the
summer
time,
when
people
are
up
there,
but
I've
talked
to
a
number
of
the
businesses
must
have
to
close
those
hours
that
have
outside
seating
like
the
diner
they
close
at
10:00
during
the
week.
All.
A
E
D
A
A
B
B
Questions
asked
by
mr.
Pearson
brought
business
is
outside
operating
outside
permits
for
tables,
benches
and
chairs
and
city
right
away.
The
code
is
to
find
businesses
and
operation
transactions
taking
place
inside
the
building.
In
other
words,
no
licenses
needs
to
operate
outside
the
building
and
all
property,
in
other
words,
I
believe
what
we
have
to
decide.
There
is,
when
you
say,
outside
operations,
are
you
talking
about
the
consumption
or
it
actually
sale?.
F
A
B
So,
okay,
okay,
now
I'm,
not
sure
if
we're
ready
to
move
forward
and
have
a
public
hearing
on
the
ship,
yeah
I'd
like
to
see
from
my
point
of
view,
I'd
like
this.
This
may
end
up
actually
in
another
section
of
code,
what
kind
of
noise
or
toast
part
this
is
really
almost
verbatim
what
we
have
in
terms
of
noises
rather
than
we
talk
about
just
specifically
for
this
zone
or
we're
talking
about
trying
to
actually
it's
a
noise
or
discourage
this.
Maybe
we
should
be
redefining
what
what
makes
noise
outside.
C
B
A
That
strain
director,
okay,
well.
E
A
A
I
mean
it's
disappointing
that
something
has
to
be
done
because
certain
problems
other
ways
addressing
the
piece,
because
personally
I
like
outside
eating
places,
because
they
make
a
very
and
also
European
one
of
our
images
over
time
to
go.
You
know
kind
of
fun
and
you
know,
but
it's
also
a
problem.
If
it's
2
o'clock
in
the
evening.
E
D
This
is
one
thing
we've
brought
up
in
our
town:
Business
Association
is
having
that
balance
right
because
we
take
pride
in
in
the
vibrance
of
our
downtown.
You
can't
just
close
it
at
10
o'clock,
and
so
we
can't
forget
that
balance,
and
this
is
something
that
they
follow
and
I
have
talked
about,
and
other
people
is
sitting
instead
of
reacting
and
changing
on
section
of
code
and
I
know,
there's
talk
about
looking
at
all
the
code
and,
like
you
said,
if
there's
maybe
a
failure
of
this
saygus,
the
noise
ordinance.
D
C
D
A
Also
I
mean
sometimes,
when
you
have
a
failure
and
there's
conflict
between
these
two
between
uses
of
trying
to
to
be
more
creative
in
trying
to
address
that.
But
I
get
the
feeling
that
that
the
creativity
has
not
happened
among
some
of
the
business
owners
of
yeah
I
mean
like
if
you
there
are
ways
there's
an
engineering
school
groups.
If
you
know
there's
specialists
who
do
noise
reduction
would
do
urban
noise
reduction.
A
My
husband
talked
to
him
about
some
other
project
that
they
were
working
on.
You
know,
and
so
maybe
there's
other
ways
that
one
can
deal
with
it
between
the
noise
ordinance
and
working
with
business
owners
who
want
to
do
things
such
as
outside
eating,
but
taking
responsibility
for
the
off-site
impacts,
which
I
think
is
where
this
is
coming
in.
Try
and
have
the
city
make
them
take
responsibility
about
their
off-site
impacts
and
that.
D
Stuff,
and
also
one
thing
that
has
to
be
taken
consideration
is,
is
isolate,
isolating
it
to
where
the
noise
is
coming
from,
whether
it's
a
house
apartment
or
a
business,
and
the
fact
that
multiple
houses
or
apartments
with
maybe
little
louder,
the
normal
noise
together
can
build
up
and
live.
You
know
for
somebody
living
up
say
like
look
forward
thanks
like
that
here,
the
combined
noise
and
thinking
maybe
comes
from
one
establish.
It
may
come
from
one
establishment,
but
it
could
be
coming
from
five
or
six
sources.
So
that's
something
you
have
to
look
into.
F
B
Walk
from
Cannon
and
on
a
good
day,
a
nice
summer,
night
I
just
going
through
there,
sometimes
past
week
and
I
somebody's
having
a
little.
You
know
cookout
somewhere
off
a
brown,
a
walker
and
you
could
pretty
much
hear
their
conversation
on
first.
You
know,
then,
you
zigzag
up
to
Hammond
you
bit
and
it's
still
going
up,
no
matter
how
many
trees
you
have
there
and
it's
you're
in
a
bowl
there,
it's
acoustics
of
the
place.
You
know
through
Yahoo,
or
you
know,
cookout
set
for
10
or
something
I.
B
Say:
okay,
we've
made
a
night,
it's
a
noise
or
it
just
kicks
in
and
now
center.
You
know
the
acoustics
are
such
that
you
know.
I.
Couldn't
you
know,
five
I
went
on
Brown
and
I
was
looking
for
try
to
figure
out
where
they
were.
You
know
it's
just
because
I
said:
okay,
I
can
hear
in
the
backyard
and
the
conversation.
But
did
you
know
maybe
a
close
attack
say
it's
out
two.
B
C
B
Well,
they've,
given
us
the
resolution
already,
this
is
what
they're
looking
at
it's
from
our
point
of
view
would
be
to
there's
this
two
or
three
things
we
can
think
about.
The
one
is
to
actually
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
you
know,
modify
the
wording
and
push
it
back
to
them
after
a
series
of
public
hearings
and
I
say
series
of
photos
because
it
will
happen
to
have
one
definitely,
as
is
in
other
words,
we
correct.
The
senator
Monday
to
Sunday
defined
eating
establishments
probably
have
to
talk,
define
what
operations
are.
A
C
C
A
B
Okay
I'd
say:
do
we
have
an
option?
We
could
just
run
with
it
right
now.
We
just
say
the
stuff
we
have.
As
is
you
know,
it's
a
de
minor
changes.
We
start.
You
start
Frost's
for
a
public
hearing
the
rain
waste
right
now,
the
public
in
this
public
hearing
how
public
here
would
be
sometime
in
August,
there's,
probably
some
time
September.
E
E
D
F
The
parking
subcommittee
met
this
afternoon
at
noon.
We
had
a
discussion
about
rather
than
approaching
parking
issues
in
the
city
piecemeal.
We
thought
maybe
create
a
more
detailed
parking
strategy
to
address
off-campus
parking
in
the
neighborhoods
used
as
a
parking,
deck
long-term
parking
on
fairgrounds
and
other
places
around
the
city,
as
well
as
ways
to
encourage
less
parking
and
less
cars
on
the
streets
and
incentivize
pedestrian
bicycle
traffic,
especially
in
the
Uptown
and
near
neighborhoods.
To
campus.
F
F
B
C
B
Idea
they
get
they
get
discounted
hangtags
for
the
upper
parking
lot
area,
you'd
be
a
hunting
license,
but
at
the
I
mean
the
concept
is
that
businesses
would
would
purchase
a
few
for
their
employees
and
they,
you
know,
the
the
employer
comes
in
at
the
shift,
changing
hands
one
and
they
drive
up
the
parking
garage
in
the
park.
If
there's
a
meeting,
I
really
haven't
had
time
to
look
at
that,
because
I
really
entails
actually
creating
a
parking
deck
system.
For
that
up
there
different
one.
Don't
we
have
man
and.
E
D
We
surveyed
some
businesses
on
that
and
there
was
some
response,
but
the
main
thing
was
counsel
didn't
have
a
different
price
administration
and
it
was
just
hypothetical
okay
if
it
was
$50
or
$70,
which
you
would
do
it
would
you
consider
this,
and
some
of
the
responses
were
well.
I
might
do
it
if
it's
70
I,
probably
would
do
it
as
15.
So.
D
More
dialogue
and
then
one
have
a
price:
okay,
we've:
if
we're
going
to
implement
it,
it's
going
to
be
$55
or
$50,
where
the
focus
and
so
then
we'd
be
happy
to
go
to
the
businesses,
help
promote
it.
You
know
with
the
city,
but
it
has
to
be
a
definite
plan
that
hypothetically
it
might
be
this,
but
there
was
some
businesses
and
they
were
interested
for
their
employees
or
themselves
other
ones
already.
A
part.
D
Most
of
the
optimism
is
learning,
do
have
arrangements
for
parking,
but
there
are
some
that
don't
and
like
pulse
mentioned,
use
the
meter
chip.
All's
always
been
a
problem
using
meters
of
town.
There
are
some
business
owners,
and
with
for
years
and
years
we
said
this
is,
you
know,
defeating
the
whole
purpose
of
having
parking
uptown,
but.
B
B
Okay,
the
assumption
is
that
whatever
it
would
be,
we
pretty
probably
under
what
the
and
I
couldn't
tell
you
what
the
price
is
for
monthly
parking
for
other
than
8585.
The
assumption
would
be
under
85
at
leave,
because
it
was
hats
off
to
some
interior
self,
like
some
release,
leave
for
the
businesses
in
theory
right
and
the
ideas
that
would
be
probably
confined
to
the
upper
decks.