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Well,
we
decided
last
meeting.
We
decided
that
there
was
a
requirement
to
have
a
public
hearing
about
zoning
talking
about
Debbie
and
looking
at
other
things
to
Mike
and
Steve.
We
just
that
the
City
Council
will
have
a
public
hearing.
I
think
that's
all
that's
required:
okay,
okay,
and
that
the
last
discussion
got
kind
of
convoluted
and
mixed
up
with
the
idea,
with
this,
the
ordinance
that
they
are
looking
at
on
operation
errors
outside.
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Restaurants,
to
establish
a
restaurant
in
the
b3
than
it
is
in
the
other,
B's
owns,
which
just
doesn't
make
sense
so
as
it
stands
now,
eating
and
drinking
establishments
under
their
original
language,
including
driving,
driving
eating
drinking
places,
summer
gardens
and
Road
houses
have
to
be
basically
200
feet
from
any
r1
or
r2
district
and,
as
we
found
that
that's
more
strict
in
the
other
be
so
so
council
would
like
to
change.
It.
D
So
basically
the
new
wording
suggestion
would
be
eating
and
drinking
establishments
drive
and
eating
and
drinking
places
provided
the
principal
buildings
shall
be
at
least
200
feet
so
that,
basically,
what
this
is
saying
is
that
driving
that
all
eating
and
drinking
establishments,
except
for
drive-in
eating
places
would
be
allowed
as
per
the
other
zones
and
the
other
B
zones,
which
is
basically
a
hundred
feet
and
that
drive-in
eating
places
would
be
have
to
be
200
people.
So
it's
it's
looking
at
the
driving
as
being
a
special
case
because
of
its
impacts.
D
They're
calling
you
know,
noise
on
those
r1
and
r2
districts,
I
dropped
out
from
the
original
wording
of
the
original
code.
The
thing
about
road
houses
and
summer
gardens,
because
Roadhouse's
I
think
is
an
anomaly.
It
would
be
covered
under
normal
eating
and
drinking
and
bar
establishments
and
summer
gardens
would
be
covered
under
the
ordinance
of
the
City.
Council
wants
us
to
take
up
next.
The
outside
operations,
ordinance
so
Mike
think
hands
it
and
that's
simpler.
The
language
in
the
code
about
it.
Okay,.
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A
D
Right
right,
yeah
further
up
in
the
original
phone
code.
It
does
because
the
does
have
language,
because
now
somebody
asked
me
about:
what's
the
difference
between
a
drive-thru
and
a
drive-in
and
whether
driving.
D
So
either
we
want
to
change
drive-in
eating
and
drinking
places
to
drive
in
and
drive
throughs
to
cover
everything,
or
we
want
to
put
a
definition
of
what
a
drive-in
is
so
I
would
I
would
probably
amend
it
to
put
drive-in
Kosh,
comma
drive-through,
eating
and
drinking
places.
So
because
I
know
that
when
sonic
went
through,
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
their
drives
there
and
the
fact
that
they
could
have
a
drive-through,
but
not
their
normal
sonic
style
drive-in.
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F
A
A
D
D
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D
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B
A
B
F
F
B
F
B
A
B
A
Talking
about
clients
stepping
outside
to
smoke,
these
were
the
discussions,
yeah
yeah,
so
I
think
I.
Think
you
probably
need
a
work
session
to
this
I,
don't
100
what
what
text
you're
90
yeah.
D
A
My
suggestion
would
be
a
short
work
session
to
hash
this
out
in
the
meantime,
with
Paula
thinking
of
them
and
and
talking
to
her
to
the
the
police
departments
on
about
how
it
might
be
possible
to
enforce
it
and
whatever
what
additional
burden
its
gonna
put
on.
Because
there's
no
point
passing
something
like
this.
That
can't
be
enforced
or.
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F
D
Oh
yeah,
the
thing
is,
if
you
have
a
you
know:
I've
looked
at
one
of
those
situations.
If
you
put
a
trellis
over
the
top
kind
of
one
of
those
and
there's
other
variants
way,
I
mean
an
awning
and
those
sort
of
things,
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
you
can
deal
with.
Some
of
it.
I
mean
that
University
does
have
specialists
and
the
engineering
department
that
deal
with
this.
So.
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B
Okay,
the
the
other
communication
is
the
parcels
that
have
been
discussed
that
council
about
two
weeks
ago.
You
have
maps
of
it
from
our
JM
engineering.
What
you're
seeing
here
is
a
development
or
a
proposal
for
route.
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I
was
brought
to
Council
and
a
committee
meeting
of
planned
development.
They
decided
to
kick
it
upstairs,
as
I
said,
and
give
it
to
the
administration,
which
in
turn
gives
it
I'm
giving
it
to
the
Planning
Commission
over.
For
you
there's.
B
It's
we're
discussing
about
300
acres,
total
mmm-ma,
so
the
first
parcel,
which
is
in
green.
If
you
don't
have
a
colored
one,
it's
the
one
closest
to
fifty
six
is
essentially
84
acres,
150
299.
That
is
the
first
one
to
be
thought
of
as
to
possible
developments.
They're
asking
the
city
to
look
into
extending
the
service
line
for
the
existing
small
sanitary
sewer
from
TS
trim
area
that
would
be
candy
drive
over
to
this
development
area.
The
water
would
be
supplied
by
Lee
acts
where
I
understood
it.
B
I
Think
the
what
we're
looking
at
doing
is
at
the
time
we
didn't
want
to
elaborate,
because
the
partner
we
had
talked
to
them
a
lot
if
they
want
to
make
public.
What
we
were
talking
about.
I
just
wanted
caution.
There's
not
been
any
agreements
made
with
this
partner,
which
is
holes,
are
hospital
not
to
be
confused
with
Holzer
clinic.
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I
Bill
Roman,
and
there
were
some
issues
not
much
Norwalk.
That
Holzer
was
took
those
projects
over
and
they're
very
very
nice
projects.
Now
I
was
at
Jackson
yeah
today
they
they
would
like
to
do
something
in
the
Athens
area.
They
would
like
to
do
a
project
here,
so
we're
in
talks
now
and
of
Thorne
a
joint
venture
and
this
this
piece
of
property.
It's
it's
300
acres.
I
But
what
we're
looking
at
right
now
is
just
the
84
acre
parcel
and
we
would
access
that
or
our
plan
would
be
to
access
that
almost
state
route,
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and
leox
has
water
there
and
I
understand
the
city
has
some
water
nearby
as
well,
but
there
the
sanitary,
sewer
and
I.
Hopefully
your
map
indicates
where
that
is.
Is.
F
I
The
CSX
railroad
the
the
building
again
it's
just
then
the
initial
stage
is
it
would
be
about
sixty
thousand
square
feet
and
rim
to
add
on.
If
you
know,
if
the
need
was
there
be
60
residents,
there
would
be
40
assisted
living
than
20
that
would
be
designated
for
an
outside
Regina
and
there's
nothing
to
our
knowledge.
That's
it's
been
built
specifically
for
farmers
in
this
area.
There
Holzer's
done
a
lot
of
research
and
it
sounds
like
there's
a
need
here
for,
for
that
particular
part.
I
The
the
interesting
thing
about
this
property
I
was
on
probably
25
years
ago
with
or
I
Anderson,
and
at
that
time
it
wasn't
for
sale
but
or
kinda
had
a
vision,
doing
something
in
this
big
valley
mm-hmm
and
there
the
the
assisted
livings
we
visited
some
in
the
same
square
area.
They've
got
activities
inside
the
buildings,
but
not
much
outside
it's
just
because
there's
no
room
for
extra
amenities
and
like
Gardens
and
walking
trails
and
things
that
people
would
like
to
do
outside
and
we've
talked
about.
I
You
know
maybe
a
some
soccer
field
or
baseball
field,
something
to
bring
youth
and
life
into
the
into
the
complex.
Because
a
lot
of
we
go
to
there's
you
know,
there's
there's
no
reason
for
young
kids
to
come
and
visit
their
grandparents,
aunts,
uncles
or
whatever.
So
those
are
that's
a
Reader's
Digest
version
of
what
we're
looking
at
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
that's.
A
Similar
to
the
Dutch
model,
but
I
am
more
familiar
with
it's
a
really
good
plan.
It's
essentially
a
park
with
well
in
Holland,
it's
easy
to
have
it
there
now
going
through
it,
but
with
some
small,
independent
living
cottages
and
then
a
high-rise
apartment
for
assisted
living
and
a
big
playground
and
ducks
on
the
canal
and
here's
the
playground
and-
and
there
is
room
for
the
people
in
the
cottages
to
have
small
gardens,
and
so
it's
a
real
neighborhood
community.
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E
I
Not
even
to
where
our
rental
business
is,
but
they've
got
a
I,
don't
what
you
call
it,
maybe
an
estimate
of
where
it
is,
but
it
hasn't
been,
you
know,
said
no
ones,
I
think
what
you
have
to
do.
I'm
know
about
enough
to
be
dangerous
about
this,
but
we've
had
our
JM
and
other
companies
come
in
and
shoot
more
detailed
cross-sections
and
you
know
get
approval
from
FEMA.
But
okay,
we
accept
your
information
and
gather
Eze.
A
I
Monday
morning
and
Bob
attended
that
made
it
along
with
several
the
department
heads
with
with
the
city
and
I
like
I,
said:
I,
don't
know
you
know
bob
was
there.
We
asked
some
some
questions
that
wasn't
a
specific
question.
One
he
was
interested
in
was:
where
is
the
railroad
tracks
in
the
proximity
to
your
property
because
we
may
be
looking
for
places
to
you
know,
for
side
rails
or
for
on
to
done
load,
gravel
or
whatever?
Who
may
be?
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H
On
behalf
of
city,
we
did
conduct
an
Appalachian
flood
risk
reduction
in
her
hands
and
part
of
that
was
getting
mapping
out
this
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I'm,
not
a
mom
I,
don't
know
if
it
captures
this
particular
area,
but
there
is
indeed
a
study
with
you.
Approved
comes
pretty
close
and
we
can
check
on
that
Bob
pass
on
that
yeah.
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I
Then
becomes
cross.
There's
there's
just
feel
that
that
would
be
the
accesses.
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F
B
E
E
I
You
know,
I,
don't
know
that
it's
counsel
said
there
were
some
guidelines
and
I'm
not
sure
what
they
are,
but
you
know
it.
It
may
be
beneficial
to
have
city
protect
fire
and
police
protection
for
the
assisted
living
part.
If
you
have
the
you
know
the
ability
to
do
that.
If
not,
then
you
know
the
building.
I
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A
I
I
Annexation
of
the
of
that
parcel,
then,
as
far
as
an
entrance
we
talked
a
little
bit
about.
Maybe
not
you
know,
building
us
Street
Boulevard
whatever
to
city
standards,
but
we
want
to
keep
it
private.
Other
I
mean
if
we
do
youth
soccer
or
baseball
fields.
Obviously
people
will
be
employed
if
we
don't
won't,
be
able
just
coming
back,
because
it's
just
to
turn
around
or
see.
What's
there
or
whatever.
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F
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I
Problems
and
things
that
we
want
the
ability
to
do
that
and
as
far
as
the
make
we
understand,
we
would
be
responsible
for
our
road
or
you
know
they
get
the
road
to
the
property.
The
maintenance
in
the
you
know
the
building
maintenance
whatever
and
I.
That's
a
responsibility.
I
think
that
that
myself
and
the
partner
is
willing
to
accept
right
now
just
to
keep
it.
You
know
private.
D
I
Know
it
seems
like
there's
enough
inventory
now
for
for
residential
I
would
not
I
mean
nothing
and
no
we're.
Probably
for
my
lifetime.
Just
I
know
the
what
is
the
university,
the
states
or
whatever
I
and
we've
done
a
phase
of
a
lot.
There
want
three
and
I'm
really
not
interested
into
getting
into
so.
D
D
Net
assisted
living
and
I'm
a
little
confused
because
you
you
want
to
have
children,
interaction
theoretically,
but
then
at
the
same
time,
how
would
you
go
about
doing
that?
If
you're
going
to
get
it
I
mean
it
seems
that
there's
a
tension
there
between
those
well.
I
Let's
say
it
and
I
don't
know
if
it
to
be
the
right
warning
but
invited
guess
and
I
pen,
you
know
it
would
take
a
poll,
the
residents
now
that
again
this
is
this
is
my
thoughts
that
we
make
both
residents.
They
may
say:
gosh,
we
really
don't.
You
know
we
like
our
privacy,
like
we
don't
want
a
bunch
of
young
children
out
here,
playing
nut
soccer
or
baseball
or
whatever,
but
just
you
know
what
the
ones
that
I've
visited
and
talking
with
the
administrators
of
these
facilities.
I
I
B
F
D
I
I
Is
there's
an
area
there
that
that's
not
haven't
been
over
to
it?
Just
looking
across
the
creek?
That's
overgrown
and
brushy.
Now
that
maybe
they've
got
the
area
that
I
could
see,
maybe
they've
got
an
area
of
where
they
do
I.
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F
I
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D
And
the
church
house
after
day
after.
B
I
We
have
that
that
we
would
be
purchasing
that
Paul
on
this
track.
This
84,
acre
tract,
would
be
in
extend
we
everything
that
we
would
end
up
with
front
56
we're
not
leaving
any
gaps.
We
I
think
that
you
all
extended
or
allowed
to
fellow
at
the
daycare,
the
chiropractor
to
type
in
to
your
sewer,
because
we
put
a
pump
station
in
for
him
and
we
tied
it
in
there
from
more
sand.
So
I
think
he
probably
in
extend.
I
B
B
I
A
the
60,000
square
foot
building
the
proposed
building
would
settle
somewhere
between
three
to
five
acres
it,
but
you
know
between
building
and
parking
in
other.
You
know
amenities,
but,
like
I
said
we,
you
know
it
would
be
something
and
the
need
may
be
bigger
than
you
know
that
the
and
we
think
we
think
sixty
or
the
birthday
you
know,
they've
done
their
their
studies
and
looked
at
what
facilities
we
have
here,
which
are
pretty
limited.
I
B
I
You
know
if
we
were
to
do
we
understand
if
we
were
to
do
let's
say
independent
living,
we
couldn't
I,
don't
think
we
could
go
in
and
split
lots
off
or
sell
Lots.
You
know,
for
four
houses
and
we'd
be
probably
have
to
do
some
sort
of
apartments
unless
we
would
have
to
come
back
and
and
then
the
private
right
would
turn
in
probably
to
a
public
road
to
have
frontage
two
to
sell
that
off.
I
A
You
might
either
do
that
or
do
that
whole
first
parcel
as
a
Planned
Unit
development,
with
the
intention
of
heavy
commercial
in
the
front
and
and
residential
in
the
other
piece
that
you're
not
starting
with
and
then
the
assisted.
Let's
start
with
the
assisted
living
in
the
Alzheimer
in
it,
and
that
would
seems
to
me
that
would
give
you
the
most
flexibility
with
doing
it
and
you
could
do
the
residential
Asst,
condo
type,
development
or
apartments,
or
if
you
weren't,
gonna,
sell
them
individually,
they
were
gonna,
rent
them
or
something
you
could
release
them.
I
G
D
Also
along
those
lines
is
I
have
some
concern
about
extending
sewer
into
a
large
person,
and
you
say
that
you're
not
going
to
you
know
right
now.
You
don't
have
any
plans,
for
there
are
other
two
parcels,
but
at
some
point
you
may
and
there's
a
density
issue
of
how
many
additional
units
are
going
to
be
going
into
that
subject
into
that
sewage
system
and
possibly
a
water
system.
D
If
you
don't
do
the
house,
you
know,
and
just
for
future
planning
and
looking
at
those
sort
of
things
making
sure
that
pumps,
the
lift
stations
are
big
enough
from
those
sort
of
things
you
know
knowing
more
of
the
density
and
how
many
you
know
that
build-out
isn't
I
would
encourage
to
think
about
it.
You
know
it's
kind
of
black
box
right
now.
I
It
would
be
just
you
know:
total
total
speculation.
That's
what
I
really
don't
want
to
say.
Okay,
here's
what
our
plan
is
and
then
don't
do
it,
because
we
don't
yeah.
Looking
I
can't
look
into
the
future.
That
far
to
say
what
you
know.
I
I
know
that
this
six,
the
unit-
it's
a
you
know
it's
a
big,
maybe
two.
I
To
alleviate
your
concern,
maybe
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
an
option,
maybe
rather
than
an
X
in
the
the
whole
84
acre
piece
that
maybe
we
carve
out
a
piece
of
that.
You
know
whether
it
be
they
three
to
five
acres
or
eight
to
ten
acres.
I,
don't
know
what
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
an
option,
but
then
we
we
leave
the
rest
outside
the
the
city
which
would
limit
the
you
know
the
sewer
access.
Now,
if
we
decided
we
wanted
to
come
back
and
do
another
parcel,
but
I'm
just
like.
D
I
think
you
understand
what
I
mean,
because
once
you
have
sewer
access
kind
of
the
density
limits
that
septic
systems
put
upon
a
piece
of
property
are
now
are
gone
and
then
and
since
the
county,
if
you're
in
the
county
it
doesn't
and
not
annexed,
then
you
can,
you
know,
have
a
really
high
density,
which
in
and
of
itself
may
be
fine,
especially
for
an
assisted
living.
You
know
continuing
care
center,
because
you
know
you
want
a
community
of
close-knit
walkable
community,
but
at
the
same
time
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
look
at.
F
D
I
Think
that's
what
Nick
is
it
Nick,
car
and
and
Mike
the
the
architect
with
RJ,
and
they
looked
at
those
types
of
things:
okay,
one
size
line
we
have
which
I
understand
it's
an
8-inch,
the
pump
capacity
at
the
nearest
lift
station,
which
is
156
in
front
of
bedrock,
and
so
they
I
guess
they've
looked
at
that
said,
okay,
we've
got
I,
don't
know
how
much
terms
of
how
many
house
is
it
with
home.
But
you
know
we
just
have
this
a
project
in
mind
and
they
thought
that
you
know
without
question.
A
I
D
I
A
B
F
B
I've
been
remiss
for
not
getting
a
copy
of
the
water
extent,
sewer
extension
policy
in
place
as
we
do
this
council
and
the
city
has
what
we're
extending
outside
the
city
limits.
I
think
some
of
the
other
questions
they
were
roses
were,
of
course,
if
we
exercise
a
water,
how
do
we
meter
the
sewer
mm-hmm?
You.
D
B
Think
that
was
part
of
the
concern,
too,
is
the
actual
use
of
the
property.
Oh
is
kind
of
nebulous
at
the
time,
and
even
you
know
when
you
say,
sixty
units
is
not
a
lot.
That's
only
a
small
footprint
on
Phase
one
and
we're
still
talking
about
a
Phase
two
of
this
first
mausoleum
and
multiple
parcels.
I,
don't
know
what
the
laws.
What
the
subject
is
in
regular
regulations
are
in
terms
of
private
right
of
ways.
A
B
A
B
And
that's
why
the
argument
you
have
there
I'm
looking
at
the
the
jigsaw
along
56-
and
you
know
we
have
lost
about
billboards
in
the
city
but
they're
not
in
accounting,
and
this
is
why
we
have
a
nice
brand
new
billboard
on
this
road.
For
the
same
reason,
so
really
the
annexation
process
would
be
the
other
way
to
go
again,
I'm,
not
sure,
really.
B
What
we're
counselors
right
now
in
this
I
think
we
probably
the
next
step,
is
check
for
us
to
review
the
policies
and
the
requirements
of
what
would
make
this,
whether
it's
a
plan,
youth
development-
probably
not
subdivision.
But
the
next
thing
is
the
annexation
process
and
what
we
require
to
do
that
either
a
development
agreement
may
be
up
and
running.
That
would
be
the
other
question.
A
Concept
here,
yeah
well,
we
haven't
really
had
a
proposal
like
this
before
smile
I
can't
draw
on
G
ten
years
ago.
We
did
so
and
so
so,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
annexation,
if
you're
gonna,
have
annexation,
it
should
happen
pretty
early
in
the
process.
But
then
that
gives
you
the
answer
about
the
sewer
and
business
and.
B
That
would
leave
it
up
to
councilors
say
what
kind
of,
if
I
remember
the
process
of
annexation.
First
council
does
should
be
a
petition
of
the
county
first
I
all
right,
but
I
was
the
same
time
we're
supposed
to
be
giving
a
council
skip
resolution.
What
services
are
my
which
obviously
will
not
clean
water
if
they
desire
to
be
asked
now.
B
C
It's
our
understanding
that,
with
an
intergovernmental
agreement
between
save
Athens
and
Lea,
acts
that
that
that's
not
an
issue,
there's
precedents
for
that
and
that
Lea
acts
would
actually
be
willing,
lose
our
understanding
from
conversations
we've
had.
If
there
was
an
intergovernmental
agreement
put
in
place,
then
they
would
actually
do
the
bill
for
the
sewage
based
on
the
metering
of
the
water.
Do.
C
F
B
C
I
I
But
we
did
partition
the
county
to
get
released.
Then
there
was
a
little
bit
of.
There
was
some
trust
that
trust
these
were
were
concerned
about
losing
tax
money
in
that
particular
Township
I
think
that
was
Tina,
Township
yeah.
This
would
be
the
Athens
Township,
but
they
you
know
they
realize
they
couldn't
provide
the
services
we
needed
for
the
project.
That's
my
sewer
in
the
water.
So
they
released
it.
Not
oh!
No.
They
the
school
still
with
their
taxes,
not
make
the
township
probably
still
got
Porsche.
F
B
One
of
the
other
things
we
should
do
is
to
take
a
glance
at
the
comprehensive
plan.
I
just
seem
to
call
it
a
photocopy.
Restaurant
talk
but
I'm
actually
developing
to
in
this
quadrant
and
I
said
Quadron
I
think
they're
more
thinking
of
a
route
fifty
access,
rather
than
56
access,
but
we
may
want
to
take
a
review
of
that.
A
D
D
D
Yes,
the
Holzer
clinic
suggests
that
when
she
put
sewage
lines
and
kind
of
development
comes
rolling
along,
so
we
one
thing
I
think
counsel
is
asking
us
is
the
idea
whether
this
is
appropriate
to
go
along
56
and
and
how
we
want
to
do
that
sort
of
thing.
So
you
know
I
think
what
what
Paige
saying
is.
Is
that
looking
at
it
as
Planned,
Unit
development
and
IMAX
ation
are
those
two
issues
that
you
need
to
really
investigate
on
your
part?
Yes,
right.
D
My
concern
is
looking
at
density
and
further
down
the
line
of
what
the
other
parcels
are
going
to
be
looking
like
yeah,
because
once
once
you
start
extending
the
sewage
line,
it's
very
difficult
to
stop,
because
everybody
then
wants
to
plug
into
it
in
a
lot
of
ways.
You
know
anybody
who
has
more
than
four
acres
will
wanna.
You
know
subdividing
in
my
experiences,
so
I
think
that
that's
just
an
issue
we
need
to
look
at
and
then
we
need
also
some
of
the
issues
concerning
development
agreements
and
such.
D
B
F
A
D
C
C
I
E
A
F
A
E
F
A
I
A
But
you,
but
you
need
to
have
you
need
to
show
where
it
would
be
located
on
that
and
so
on,
but
also
I.
Think
there's
gonna
be
a
question
kirlyam
Council
about
yes
and
then,
if
you
go
on
and
then
you
have
a
greater
density,
what
are
you
going
to
do
it
you're
going
or
this
sewer
line
and
put
a
different,
bigger
sewer
line
in
from
someplace.
F
F
I
E
F
A
It's
only
when
you
get
to
doing
the
building
and
connecting
to
the
sewer
and
all
of
that,
but
that
you
have
to
have
really
detailed
plans.
You
have
debt
plans
of
the
building
of
that
plans
showing
where
it
will
be
on
the
site
and
the
utility
easements
and
that
whole
business,
but
you
don't
have
to
have
that
for
annexation.
Well,
if
you,
if
you
don't,
you.
A
A
J
F
J
As
as
a
functioning
building,
and
so
that
should,
in
theory,
present
opportunities
for
infill
redevelopment
and
to
encourage
infill
development,
we
may
want
to
consider
how
we
have
it
zoned
right
now
in
order
to
open
up
for
more
opportunities
for
development,
especially
with
to
have
multi
multi-family
residential
assisted
living
center
housing,
et
cetera.
Things
like
that
that
are
not
permitted
right
now
in
the
EM
in
the
industrial.
J
J
Does
suggest
you
leave
from?
Actually
it
suggests
that
we're
easily
the
manufacture
em
to
be
three,
but
also
at
the
same
time
expand
permitted
uses
in
the
be
three
with
caution
that
any
change
to
the
permitted
uses
allowed
in
v3
free,
State
Street
would,
in
effect
change,
permitted
uses
and
all
v3
throughout
the.
D
D
J
Is
one
of
the
related
to
zoning?
Specifically,
it
calls
for
three
different
options
for
how
to
rezone
it.
The
second
is
to
create
an
overlay
zone
for
the
entire
corridor,
where
we
could
have
specifications
related
to
the
setbacks,
height
limitation,
signage
design,
features,
low
impact,
pretend
potentially
things
like
that.
The
plan
itself
recommends
out
of
the
three
options
for
rezoning.
It
does
say
that
the
best
method
is
to
create
a
new
mixed-use
commercial
zoning
district
for
East
State
Street
and
apply
it
to
all
existing
areas.
J
J
Think
that
you
know
I,
don't
think
that
would
I,
don't
think
that's
possible,
but
I
guess
the
plan
saying
that
would
be
the
ideal
and
then,
if
you
have
of
this
new
mixed-use,
then
you
can.
We
can
try
to
get
everything
in
line
for
any
future
development,
we're
leaving
to
setbacks
and
parking
requirements,
pedestrian
and
bicycle
transportation,
etc.
That
if
we
have
that
in
place-
and
we
can
those
could
be
standard
requirements
for
any
development
on
State,
Street
signage
as
well
would
be
a
big
one
and.
J
According
to
the
plan,
it
would
be
specific
to
each
straight
East
State
Street,
the
wording
uses.
The
third
and
final
option
is
to
create
a
new
mixed-use
commercial
zoning
district
for
you,
State
Street,
and
apply
it
to
existing
areas.
With
this
option,
zoning
can
be
written
specifically
to
accomplish
desired
outcomes
and
direct
implement
the
vision
for
each
State
Street.
D
B
A
J
The
plan
also
it
does
include
in
the
I
printed
out
the
copies
for
everybody,
but
on
page
211
it
does
outline
specifically
at
least
the
plan
suggestions
on
how
that
zoning
district
should
be
written.
Looking
at
look
and
things
to
include
in
it.
So
it's
a
useful
guide
line,
but
it
may
be
something
if
we'd
like
to
proceed
in
that
fashion,
that
we
have
to
really
look
at
the
awarding
and
make
sure
that's
how
we
want
it
to
appear.
A
D
A
G
Name
is
Joseph,
Richards
I
go
and
I
live
most
of
the
year
at
1:02,
North
Lake
mr.
Street
took
two
or
three
months
I'm
in
Arizona,
but
I
keep
up
on
things
as
much
as
I
can,
but
the
trouble
is
they
didn't
between
my
trips
when
I
leave
them
by
the
time
I
get
here.
A
lot
happens
and
I
get
I
have
to
spend
time
doing
my
homework.
Now.
These
concerns
me
today.
It
says
items
not
covered
on
the
agenda.
You
see.
G
I
must
tell
you
that
I
fell
the
other
day
and
I'm
in
good
shape,
but
I
have
a
little
bit
of
pain
and
I.
Don't
think
it'll
affect
me,
I'm
gonna,
if
I
had
to
leave
I,
would
have
explained
to
you.
I
wanted
to
hear
what
you
said.
I
had
to
take
a
break.
I
would
have
said
to
somebody
to
tell
there
had
nothing
to
do
with
you
I,
because
sometimes
when
you
walk
out
on
a
person.
G
F
G
I
have
carried
on
a
running
fight
with
the
city
of
Athens,
about
that
restroom
being
locked
in
that
look,
I
was
there
one
day
a
number
of
times.
Women
would
come
in
there
expecting
to
use
a
weapon
restroom
and
had
children,
okay,
not
children
in
diapers,
just
little
boys
and
girls.
If
you
would
see
what
happens
sometimes
around
here,
especially
when
the
students
are
not
here
like
go
on
a
holidays
and
things
like
that,
people
use
the
garage.
G
G
G
B
B
G
B
B
G
H
G
G
G
B
We're
going
to
try
and
see
if
we
want
to
see
if
we
have
an
increased
amount
of
vandalism
at
this
point,
leaving
it
open
during
the
days
should
not
be
a
problem
in
terms
of
it,
but
you
don't
know
what
was
occurring
is
that
we'd
have
in
in
previous
years
I
guess
it
was
open.
Somebody
come
in
and
break
up
the
bathroom,
and
then
you
have
to
close
it
down
and
I'm
familiar
with
it.
Okay,
so
really
what
just?
How
long
a
pilot
is?
I,
don't
know.
B
G
Person-
this
is
a
concerned
citizen
I'm,
concerned
about
this,
because
traditionally
in
Ohio,
I,
don't
know
whether
you're
realizing
on
I
have
yet
to
go
into
a
county.
Courthouse,
for
example,
didn't
have
a
restroom.
You
can
still
go
to
the
restroom
over
here
where
they
have
the
security.
Mm-Hmm
I
know
exactly
how
that
works.
People
can
walk
in
or
I
can
walk
in
or
the
fact
that
they
know
me
doesn't
make
any
difference
to
them,
of
course,
because
I
have
to
have
to
go
through
the
thing,
but
then
you
can
leave
on
the
other
side.
G
B
G
Thing
is
dear
to
my
heart:
I've
been
around
a
board
Attorney
of
Appeals
I
came
on
in
89
I.
Remember
the
set
up
I
also
remember
the
set
up
in
the
city
that
we
had
long
before.
I
came
in
on.
There
was
a
lady
that
worked
in
an
office
down
the
hallway
and
she
was
like
a
coordinator
for
getting
things
done
in
the
city
I'm,
not
talking
about
replacing
to
that
kind
of
a
person
I'm
talking
about
the
fact,
for
example,
you
understand
Paul,
who
takes
the
minutes
for
the
Board
of
Zoning
appeal.
G
G
One
of
these
days
ice
I,
predict,
and
you
want
to
remember
my
predictions-
are
good
I,
one
time
told
the
people
in
a
city
paid
$11,000
and
they
didn't
knoweth
and
they
got
clobbered
and
they
went
to
court
over
another
issue
and
the
judge
threw
the
book
at
him
even
though
they
don't
like
it
I
shouldn't,
say
so.
The
judges
don't
throw
books.
The
judge
read
through
the
variety
I
guess:
that's
not
the
expression.
The
judge
said
the
city
has
a
responsibility
this
man's
down
on
West
Union
Street.
G
G
How
come
you
let
that
go
on
now,
I'll
grant
you
that
the
judges,
the
courts,
you
lean
over
backwards
on
small
towns
in
terms
of
the
way
you
operate,
you
can
do
certain
things
and
nobody,
but
once
you
get
a
challenge
you're
looking
at
someone
who,
for
example,
went
to
the
law
of
director
instead,
where
the
minutes
for
the
committee's
that
was
Gary
hunter,
he
said.
They're
not
required
to
have
them
now
they
are
state
law
passed,
okay,
I.
F
G
F
G
G
Now
this
person
does
not
have
to
be
a
liaison
with
the
public,
but
they
have
to
have
good
minutes,
because
you
know
what
happens
with
your
minutes.
I've
been
involved
in
this,
they
have
to
her.
I
was
involved
in
this
one
time.
Why
did
I
get
involved?
They
asked
me
to
check
the
transcript.
I
was
not
in
an
official
position.
I
listened
to
the
tape
and
I.
G
G
They
hired
a
woman
and
paid
her
hundreds
of
dollars.
It
was
a
case
and
I
listened
and
I'll.
Tell
you.
I
learned
something
I
learned,
for
example,
how
difficult
it
is
to
follow
conversations
in
a
meeting
I
had
no
idea,
because
I'm
used
to
being
in
a
controlled
environment
where
somebody
tells
me,
mr.
slag.
Oh,
let
me
finish
your
work
saying.
F
A
A
So
we're
that
ought
to
take
care
of
the
concerns
about
the
Sunshine
Law.
We
can't
announce
it
in
the
paper
beforehand,
because
often
we
don't
know
far
enough
ahead.
What
cases
are
gonna
be
on
the
agenda?
But
this
way,
if
anybody
is
concerned
about
what's
then
be
on
the
agenda,
they
can
call
the
mayor's
office
and
find
out
and
find
out
where
the
site
visit
is
and.
D
B
G
A
A
The
dismissal
of
Steve
Pierson
has
removed
the
chief
staff
support
for
the
athletes
City
Planning
Commission,
as
well
as
many
years
of
institutional
memory
of
cases
and
their
background
information.
The
loss
of
this
major
resource
will
make
it
extremely
difficult
for
the
commissioners,
especially
the
three
of
us
who
are
volunteers,
to
continue
to
do
our
jobs.
I
have
served
four
terms
on
City
Council
and
have
been
on
the
athens
City
Planning
Commission
since
1991
serving
this
year's
chairman.
A
Although
my
current
term
runs
until
January,
2
2010
I
am
resigning
effective,
with
the
close
of
the
meeting
on
July,
3,
2008,
sincerely
and
I'm.
Sorry
to
do
it,
but
I
can't
see
how
I
can
operate
the
way
I
feel
I
ought
to
without
the
resources
of
somebody
who
has
the
knowledge
of
the
state
and
local
codes
and
the
regulations.
G
I
say
something
sure:
I
don't
know
whether
you
have
any
idea
how
high
I
hope
you
would
respect
another
people.
We
may
not
agree
with
you,
which
you've
always
been
a
lady
and
you're
old-fashioned
traditional
and
you
really
haven't
served
well.
The
city
I've
watched
you
for
many
years.
I
go
back
many
years
watching
you
I
appreciate
what
you've
done,
what
you
have
done
and
I'll.