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Athens Planning Commission December 5, 2019
A
Good
afternoon
this
is
the
Thursday
December
5th
2019
meeting
of
the
8th
and
City
Planning
Commission.
Four
members
are
present
one
absent
at
this
time
a
quorum
has
been
established.
Is
there
anybody
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
speak
to
the
Planning
Commission
today
raise
your
right
hand,
and
do
you
solemnly
swear
to
tell
the
truth
as
best
you
know
it?
Thank
you
very
much
disposition
of
the
October
3rd
meetings.
A
A
C
A
D
A
E
Hello,
thank
you
Providence.
My
name
is
Josh
most
with
West
knee
constructions,
we're
out
of
Gahanna
Ohio
close
to
Columbus
I'm,
also
joined
today
by
my
engineer,
Kevin
pin
white
with
DLT
engineering,
as
well
as
the
CEO
Corey
Corrigan
of
Ohio
University
credit
union
and
board
chair
Chuck
cope.
Thank
you
for
having
us.
We
currently
are
proposing
a
7,000
square
foot
addition
on
to
9:44
East
State
Street.
E
What
you
have
in
front
of
you
as
a
package
representative
of
the
renderings
that
you
see
on
the
floor
as
well
as
the
preliminary
civil
drawings,
as
well
as
the
architectural
set
of
documents
have
been
submitted
to
David
Riggs
but
part
of
title
41.
So
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
to
start
work
sometime
in
the
spring
March
1
on
this
particular
site.
E
Resource
structures
for
human
resources
and
member
services
and
HR
and
the
first
book
and,
like
I,
said
in
your
currently
renovating
the
first
floor,
which
is
upgrade
the
retail
service
entry
and
Lobby.
As
part
of
this,
we'll
be
adding
some
parking
on
the
north
side,
which
we
will
have
a
ninety
seven
partners.
Physics
will
be
I,
mean
another
25
parking
spaces
to
accommodate
the
growth
and
addition
as
well
as
19,
the
22
existing
member
parking
spaces.
Mr.
E
president,
as
part
of
the
addition,
we'll
also
be
seeking
approval
and
going
to
access
widen
the
easement,
as
well
as
an
entry
off
of
that
widen.
The
access
easement
drives
to
go
with
a
one-way
entrance
into
their
parking
lot,
so
that
they
can
create
evasive,
much
more
safe
and
and
viable
method
of
entry
to
the
site,
because
they
will
have
a
drive-thru.
As
part
of
this
that
is
existing.
E
As
part
of
this
addition,
we
were
pouring
it
taking
that
exit
drive-through
and
moving
it
to
the
west
western
portion
of
the
site,
and
so
in
order
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
create
any
kind
of
congestion
and
they're
already
entered
entry
exit.
Where
we're
going
to
make
a
one-way
entry
to
the
northwest
corner,
and
then
this
existing
entry
exit
will
become
a
one-way
exit
and
back
out
on
to
East
a
headlight
as
part
of
that
additional
parking
unit
will
be
doing
a
retaining
wall
and
excavating
into
the
hillside,
which
is
already
terraced.
E
Those
are
going
to
own
the
water
that
are
currently
present
to
take
off
drainage
and
will
be
taking
off
approximately
a
three
foot
high
section
to
a
12
foot
high
section
at
the
northeast
corner:
building
a
structural
retain
the
wall
with
drainage
and
paving
for
an
additional
20
parking
spaces.
So
that
really
is
a
site
overview
for
the
addition.
E
B
E
E
E
A
B
Access
Perry,
yes,
I,
look
at
the
existing
conditions
plan.
It
shows
it
shows
property
lines
and
right
away
lines.
Does
the
credit
union
hold
an
easement
hold
titled
an
easement
from
McLaren
as
McLaren
full
title
to
needs
list
from
the
credit
union,
or
is
it
a
cross
lasting
season?
But
can
you
describe
that
yeah.
E
B
You
know-
and
this
is
a
this
is
a
question.
You
may
not
be
ready
to
answer
this
now,
but
it's
also
somewhat
of
a
comment.
Since
the
original
headquarters
was
built,
the
city
has
enacted
storm
water
quality
standards
and
it's
in
our
title
5.07,
and
so,
whereas
there's
no
retention
requirement
for
increasing
the
improvable
surface
for
a
site
of
this
size,
it's
too
small.
There
is
a
Sur
motor
quality
requirement.
E
Grand
proved
yeah,
we
had
plans
to
put
a
detention
on
the
site
on
the
west
side
in
the
green
space,
but
then,
when
we
saw
that
portion
of
the
city's
normal
quality
management,
I
think
I
talked
to
the
co
department
and
it
doesn't
look
like
it
was
necessary
based
on
my
size
of
the
building.
But
how
would
you
want
us
to
address
that?
There.
B
E
B
B
E
E
B
Sorry,
mr.
chairman,
do
the
sideboard
discussion
we
were
just
having
had
to
do
with
the
East
8th,
Street
Drive
specifically,
and
you
know,
as
we
look
at
sheet
C
5.0
I'm,
showing
the
new
site
layout.
It
appears
as
though
your
Drive
thrus
now
will
kind
of
be
steered
more
towards
that
that
McLaren
access
road
and
this
signal,
which
is
good,
you
know,
so
that's
an
improvement.
I,
don't
believe
right
now
that
there's
any
kind
of
restriction
at
the
at
the
East,
State
Street,
curb
cut.
That
says
right
turn
only
I
mean
you
have
a
pavement.
B
Pavement
marking
indicated
for
right
turn,
as
opposed
to
a
right
turn
and
a
left
turn.
We
would
request
that
you
had
a
sign
that
says
right
turn
only
and
we
realized
that
you
know
we're
not
gonna
put
a
median
East
8th,
Street
physically
prevent
it,
but
you
know
we
want
as
few
people
as
possible
trying
to
make
a
left
out
of
that
East
8th,
Street,
correct.
E
That's
a
good
point.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
have
looked
at
just
widening
the
entry
exit
that
they
have
an
existing
issue
with
now
off
of
the
mclaren
entrance
and
exit,
and
it
really
just
didn't
make
sense
because
of
the
number
of
people
that
try
to
make
that
left
turn
there.
E
That's
not
a
really
a
well
controlled
intersection
right,
so
we
were
trying
to
alleviate
that
and
I
think
by
your
suggestion
that
will
that
will
even
improve
the
condition
that
will
have
the
majority
of
the
traffic
other
than
staff
will
be
coming
out
to
the
light
in
or
near
location
dami.
That's
the
goal
so
good.
A
G
A
B
B
This
is
kind
of
a
long
and
convoluted
part
of
the
city
that
was
the
former
railroad
property
and
then
was
gradually
gradually
developed
over
time
after
the
railroad
went
out
in
the
mid-1980s.
It's
to
the
extent
now
that
it
can't
be
subdivided
any
longer
because
of
the
fact
that
there's
no
public
roadway,
our
subdivision
regulations
say
that
if
five
or
more
parcels
are
served
by
a
private
easement,
there
has
to
be
a
major
subdivision
to
occur,
and
so
it
can't
be
granted
as
a
minor
lot
split.
B
Whatever
someone
wants
to
split
all
the
Lots
that
have
been
split
or
that
can
be
split-
have
been
split
in
this
particular
situation
without
doing
a
major
subdivision.
It's
somewhat
unique
in
that
it's
not
a
major
subdivision,
like
we
think
of
in
that
you
know
someone's
building
a
bunch
of
houses
and
it's
a
subdivision
that
you
eat
subdivision
regulations
of
that.
But
because
it's
a
major
subdivision,
it
has
to
go
through
Planning
Commission
and
then
has
to
go
and
get
approves.
The
plat
has
to
get
approved
by
council.
B
So
this
document
isn't
the
final
version,
because
this
is
what
she's
requested
the
city
has
has
different
requirements
and
so
we're
having
a
surveyor
prepare
a
modification
of
this
plat,
but
I
wanted
to
at
least
get
the
process
going
from
a
communication
perspective
and
talk
about
this
so
and
if
you,
you,
probably
all
driven
back
there
and
are
familiar
with
it.
Basically,
this
is
Herald
Avenue.
B
On
the
end
here
and
in
Herald
Avenue
ends
into
a
private
easement
and
that
private
easement
that
private
easement
is
a
roadway,
that's
on
top
of
the
old
railroad
embankment
and
it
continues
to
go
down
and
serve
the
various
properties
that
are
on
this
side.
This
is
Zone
B
3.
We
see
this
as
a
viable
business
zone.
There's
still
a
space
to
develop
here
and,
and
it
would
be
good
if
more
more
businesses
go
back
there,
that
are
there
economic.
B
You
know
that
pay
economic
benefits
so
long
as
we
can
fix
the
utility
ownership
issues
and
the
road
intership
issues
as
part
of
it.
So
that's
until
I
have
the
updated
document
to
talk
specifically
about
where
the,
where
that
those
easements
would
be
granted
as
part
of
the
split
I,
don't
know,
have
any
other
communications,
but
at
least
wanted
to
get
it
before
the
before
the
board.
When.
A
B
Mean
that's
the
thought.
That's
right,
I
mean
that
roadway
right
now
is
serving
the
Mini
Storage,
the
there's
a
there's,
another
storage
building
back
there,
commercial
building,
what
is
known
as
Athens,
visiting
nurses,
a
specialist
yeah
and
then
the
the
current
commercial
building
on
this
property.
There's
a
couple
there's
some
space.
Basically,
that
could
also
be
developed
into
sites
for
other
commercial
buildings,
but
currently
can't
be
subdivided
because
of
the
fact
that
it's
all
off
of
a
private
easement.
B
H
G
Rob
delaqua
24
Morris
Avenue
at
this
time,
curious
about
the
implications
for
a
potential
connection.
Road
from
that's
been
discussed,
I've
heard
it
talked
about,
but
never
seen
any
plans
for
it.
That
would
go
near
this
property.
It
would
seem
Herald
Avenue
to
connect
to
West
Steve
from
West,
Union,
I.
Think
I,
don't
know
there
are
any
formal
plans,
but
I've
heard
it
discussed.
How
does
that
this
play
into
that?
Or
is
there
any
idea
on
how
that
would
work?
F
F
The
first
thing
is
service,
Safety
Director
was
mentioning,
is
you
know,
currently
it's
a
private
road
and
for
us
to
acquire
that
and
have
it
released
to
the
city
and
we
could
start
exploring
other
things
that
could
happen
with
that.
But
at
this
point
it's
just
cleaning
this
up
to
where
the
city
takes
ownership
of
the
road
itself.
G
F
A
You,
okay.
Moving
on
to
cases
we
have
discussion
of
case
19-0,
7
City
Council
resolution
are
0
8
19
request
to
consider
amending
a
zoning
code
to
include
short
term
rentals
in
residential
zones.
We
did
have
our
special
session
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
we
received
some
good
input
from
citizenry
at
that
time
and
today
we
are
going
to
begin
the
process
of
working
our
way
towards
a
vote
from
the
Planning
Commission,
and
we
would
be
holding
discussion
first
today
and
receive
any.
H
A
B
B
B
This
was
a
you
know,
it's
a
sense
of
issue
and
there's
lots
of
opinions
regarding
this,
and
our
charges
of
Planning
Commission
is
to
take
the
resolution
that
City
Council
gave
to
us
and
either
recommend
it
in
its
current
form,
not
recommended
in
its
current
form
or
recommend
it
in
some
sort
of
modification
and
so
based
on
the
communication.
We
got
from
the
members
of
the
public
previous
sessions
that
we've
had
here
and
then
our
own
and
when
I
say
our
I
mean
the
administration's
own.
B
Basically
look
at
the
situation
on
how
we
can
administer
this
and
how
we
can
administer
short-term
rentals
in
the
city
of
Athens.
We
made
some
recommended
changes,
and
so
what
you
have
in
front
of
you
is
that
resolution
that
the
council
sent
to
this
coming
with
modifications
to
it
in
red
and
if
it's
okay
I'd
like
to
talk
through
what
these
modifications
are
and
then
we
can
have
discussion
from
there.
So.
B
Ma'am
absolutely
so
you
know
looking
in
the
beginning,
we
know
that
we
will
have
to
recommend,
even
though
the
Planning
Commission's
job
isn't
to
go
and
write
legislation
other
than
the
zoning
code.
But
in
conjunction
with
these
changes,
we're
going
to
recommend
TAC
changes
to
title
15
and
title
29.
B
So
title
29
is
the
housing
code
and
that's
specifically
where
it
talks
about
rental
permits
and
the
way
rental
permits
are
done
and
when
they're
required
and
then
title
15
is
our
tax
code
and
that's
specifically
when
it
comes
to
the
transient
guests,
tax
and
so
whoa,
and
we
don't
have
what
those
modifications
would
be
present
because
we
still
going
to
work
through
it
based
on
what
we
come
up
with
with
zoning
here.
But
my
thought
would
be
that
when
we
put
forward
a
recommendation
that
that
includes
those
proposed
changes
as
well.
B
So
on
the
first
page
here,
there
was
a
recommend,
the
the
resolution
included,
adding
unless
otherwise
authorized
herein,
and
we
thought
that
would
be
fine.
Moved
down
to
number
five
for
accessory
uses,
permitted
accessory
uses
under
r1
number
five,
as
a
use
under
our
one
is
rentals.
So
right
now,
rentals
are
allowed
in
our
run
and
it
says
to
read
it
here:
the
keeping
of
not
more
than
two
renters
by
a
resident
owner
or
by
keeping
of
not
more
than
three
adult
renters
plus
related
children
by
a
non-resident
owner
housekeeping
units
may
not
keep
renters.
B
B
H
B
B
Think
you
know
I
think
we
can
look
at
ways
to
streamline
that
process.
The
important
thing
is
that
we
would
want
to
have
if
something
were
to
be
rented
as
a
short-term
rental.
We
would
want
to
have
a
record
that
it
is
indeed
permitted
to
be
a
short-term
rental
and
because
of
that,
there's
a
separate
list
of
things
that
are
permitted
to
be
a
short-term
rental
that
can
be
submitted
under
that
title,
15
from
a
tax
provision
for
a
transient
guest
tax,
as
opposed
to
a
residential,
okay.
H
H
I
H
H
B
Continuing
down
you
see
conditionally
permitted
uses,
one
of
the
things
that
we
heard
loud
and
clear
from
the
members
of
the
public
was
the
concept
of
tourist
homes
and
an
r1
was
a
lightning
rod
for
controversy.
Those
particular
that
particular
designation
of
a
you
know
and
I
think
people
conjure
up
in
their
mind
a
great
big
house
full
of
partiers
in
the
middle
of
an
r1
with
a
tourist
home,
and
so
what
we
would
recommend
is
that
we
move
this
from
a
conditionally
permitted
use
in
an
r1
to
a
principally
permitted
use
in
an
r3.
B
We
also
would
recommend
that
we
would
modify
the
definition
as
written
here
to
five
unrelated
guests
or
one
family
for
no
more
than
thirty
consecutive
days
and
then
add
the
sentence.
A
short-term
rental
permit
is
required.
The
reason
for
that
change
is
that
six
guests
trigger
the
ORCL
rules.
So
that's
a
that's
a
whole
other
level
of
requirements.
When
you
have
a
rooming
house,
and
so
we
thought
508
and
I-
don't
want
to
speak
anymore
to
rooming
house
versus
I
mean
there's
other
there's
other
issues
when
you
have
rooming
houses.
B
H
I
mean
know,
what's
defined
in
the
code,
but
is
it
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
slipperiness?
It
goes
on
and
like
of
their
zoning
code,
its
family
I
mean
I
thought
five
was
too
small.
I
know
what
you're
doing,
but
I
think
that
there's
there
are
people
who
a
married
couple
rent
to
three
other
father.
You
know
there's
all
kinds
of
stuff
like
that
in
their
kids,
I,
don't
think
it's
bad
to
have
it,
but
I
think
family
is
kind
of
a
slippery.
Well.
B
H
I
H
I
B
So
to
continue
on
through
here,
so
we
recommend
making
that
move
the
next
page.
There
was
a
change
in
the
resolution
of
owner-occupied,
our
only
managed
beds
and
breakfast
establishments
being
added
as
a
in
the
principally
permitted
uses
in
our
threes,
and
we
thought
that
was
fine
right
now.
It's
a
conditionally
permitted
use
in
our
three
we
thought
principally
permitted
use,
would
be
fine,
there's
also
definitions
that
we've
managed
beds
and
breakfasts
or
people
have
managed
beds,
breakfasts
and
other
areas
already.
So
we
thought
that
change
was
fine.
B
Going
on
down
to
to
section
five
the
changes
of
definitions.
We
thought
we
should
change
the
bed
and
breakfast
definition
and
get
rid
of
the
concept
of
a
bed
and
breakfast
permit
and
just
say
a
short
term
permit
is
required
and
it
would
be
the
same
short-term
rental
permit
for
a
bed-and-breakfast
or
a
tourist
house
in
our
threes
or
below
or
a
smaller
short-term
rental.
That
would
be
in
an
r1
or
r2,
but
for
less
than
30
days,
and
it
would
be
the
same
short-term
rental
permit.
We
would
recommend
deleting
the
guest
night
definition.
B
We
thought
we
thought
the
other,
the
other
changes
to
the
to
the
zoning
code.
Word,
you
know
administrative
Lian
II
way
we
could
we
can
we
can
manage,
and
so
this
is
what
what
from
the
administration
perspective
we
were
proposed
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
that,
if
we
want
to
you,
know
open
up
for
for
the
discussion
or
for
the
changes
that
we
want
to
have.
We
can
do
that.
A
B
B
You
know
occasionally
and
using
an
external
service
that
monitors
like
VRBO
and
Airbnb
in
the
variety
various
websites
to
find
those
and
thus
notify
us.
You
know
the
fact
that
everybody
would
have
to
get
a
permit
for
every
rental
allows
us
to
keep
track
of
them.
We
don't
think
that
that
it
would
be
so
onerous
that
that
it
would
be
impossible
to
pay
attention
to.
B
We
all
to
think
that
some
of
the
the
casual
folks
because
of
the
requirements
to
meet
the
housing
regulations
with
regards
to
egress
and
outlets
and
safety
and
smoke
detectors
and
carbon
dioxide
detectors,
may
be
someone
who
would
casually
do
it
now,
maybe
would
think
twice,
because
they
don't
want
to
have
to
upgrade
their
house
in
order
to
to
meet
those
regulations.
Your.
F
The
other
thing
to
share
is
that
you
know
under
the
code
it
doesn't
speak
directly
to
the
Department
of
Development
and
code
enforcement
to
be
the
inspectors.
It
could
could
be
that
that
fire
assists
because
they
do
inspect
all
businesses
in
the
city
of
Athens
and
are
looking
for
basically
the
same
safety
issues.
That
code
would
be
looking
for.
F
So
there
could
be
some
shared
responsibilities
if
we
saw
that
this
really
started
to
grow,
but
I
agree
with
with
service
if
t
director
and
that,
with
with
the
way
this
is
written
now,
I
think
someone
who'd
casually
think
about
doing
something
like
this
is
going
to
rethink
that,
because
can
they
meet
the
requirements
under
title
29
to
be
able
to
have
a
safe
and
effective
place?
There's
someone
to
stay
one.
B
Thing
we
didn't
speak
to
sir,
and
we
talked
about
it
when
we
were
looking
at
this
is,
if
you
have
to
get
a
rental
permit
to
do
it,
you
have
to
meet
the
bulk
controls,
which
includes
parking.
So
so,
if
you
currently,
you
know
and
because
I
know
parking
was
a
big
discussion
from
him
as
the
public
and
so
that
someone
would,
we
would
take
a
house
that
currently
doesn't
meet
the
parking
requirement
and
go
and
turn
it
into
a
short-term
rental.
If
they
don't
meet
the
partner
requirement,
they
couldn't
get
around
permit.
B
H
The
only
change
to
just
summarize
in
our
is
the
r-1
who
becomes
a
bed-and-breakfast,
which
is
a
old
term
and
the
oh
darn
tourist
home
right.
You
know,
wait
a
minute.
There
are
threes,
so
in
other
words
the
people
who
came
about
what
they
wanted
pretty
much
all
right
so
tell
me
the
zoning
designations
homestays
out
and
then
we
have
tourist
toys,
and
then
we
have
tours.
J
B
You
know
not
more
than
two
renters
by
our
resident
owner
or
the
keeping
of
not
more
than
three
adult
renters
plus
related
children
by
a
non-resident
donor.
So
that
would
be
the
I
guess,
the
the
limit
of
people
to
do
it
if
they
weren't
density
right
in
an
r1.
If
you
were
doing
a
short-term
rental
under
r1,
pretty.
B
We
have
you
know,
a
functional
code
enforcement
department,
that's
very
professional
and
very
good
at
inspection
of
rentals.
You
know,
so
we
didn't
think
we
needed
to
reinvent
the
wheel
with
short-term
rentals.
We
just
need
to
be
able
to
track
it
properly
and
and-
and
you
know,
I
understand
where
it
fits
in
the
overall
scheme.
I'd.
F
A
B
F
Think
we
careful
here
because
I
mean
we're
talking
about
a
platform
of
any
I
mean
because
a
short-term
rental
is
any
of
the
trade
names
that
you're
mentioning.
You
know
whether
it's
VRBO
or
Airbnb,
or
anything
else
that
comes
up,
but
that's
why
we're
using
the
language
of
short-term
rentals
so
and
that's?
Okay,
that's
what
those
platforms
are
at
the
end
of
the
day,
they're
short-term
rentals.
F
A
K
K
You
really
haven't
you
haven't,
given
any
definition
to
this
I
understand
the
six-month
thing,
and
that
was
brought
up
in
conversation
before
so
I,
see
where
that
fits
in
here
clearly
but
short
term
30-day
bed-and-breakfast,
whatever
you
want
to
call
them.
There
are
no
guidelines
for
that
and
you're
opening
up
that
situation
everywhere
in
an
r1
in
an
r2
zone,
because
r2
can
do
whatever
happens
in
an
r1.
So
you
can't
you
have
to
somehow
you
have
to
qualify
this,
so
it
doesn't
include
30-day
30-day
rentals
and
that's
what's
disturbing
to
me.
Otherwise,
I.
K
My
only
other
concern
and
I
think
this
was
Jim.
Fuller
is
concerned
because
he
hasn't
approved
well
I,
guess
you
would
call
it
now.
Maybe
a
tourist
home,
Island
Richmond
Avenue,
it's
a
beautiful
place
and
he
rents
it
depending
sometimes
for
less
than
30
days,
sometimes
more,
and
so
this
would
would
no
longer
allow
him
to
do
that
for
more
than
30
days
and
I.
B
K
You
could
so
you
could
have
two
okay,
okay,
that
was
good,
so
hopefully
he's
watching,
and
he
knows
that
because
he
was
not
very
happy
about
that.
So
anyways
that
to
deal
with
this
section,
five,
then
that
that's
the
only
thing
that's
troubling
to
me:
cuz,
you
really
left
it
wide
open
and
left
it
wide
open
and
I
I
think
it
needs
to
be
qualified.
K
K
Says
this
is
not
apply
to
short-term
bed
and
breakfast
rentals
or,
however,
you
want
to
qualify
those
terms
because
otherwise
they're
gonna
be
popping
up.
I
mean
there's
one
empty.
Has
a
monster
eat
there's
two
on
Lancaster
on
North
Lancaster,
but
there's
several
on
Grosvenor
Franklin
I
mean
all
of
a
sudden.
Are
people
going
to
start
buying
these
up
and
put
it
and
then
put
if
they
own
them
under
LLC
said
nobody's
there
and
then
you
know,
and
then
we
have
problems.
K
Those
are
the
kind
of
problems
we
were
originally
discussing,
behavior
in
the
r-1
neighborhoods.
So
basically,
what
you've
done
here
is
a
lot
of
dead
and
Breakfast
in
the
r-1
neighborhoods,
without
any
controls
and
that's
what's
troubling,
so
otherwise,
but
that's
a
big
otherwise.
For
me.
So
anyways.
J
You,
mr.
chairman,
merry
able
48
Strathmore.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
public
hearing
and
listening
to
the
comments
that
I
think
all
of
us
and
move
on
greatly
appreciate
that
I
would
just
echo
what
mr.
neski
has
said
about
the
Ben
breakfast
in
the
short-term
rentals.
Defining
that
I
believe
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
was
discussed
and
I
I
think
is
what
is
the
intent
of
the
Commission?
Is
that
to
allow
bed
and
breakfast
in
an
r1
or
not
to
allow
them
and
I?
Think
that's
one
of
the
concerns.
J
The
other
thing
is
I
would
like
to
say
that
I
think
that
out
of
city
code
enforcement
office
does
a
terrific
job
I
think
that
they
are
going
to
have
more
more
work
on
their
hands
and
I
guess
I,
just
like
to
say
I
do
think
they
need
some
additional
help
because
they
do
a
yeoman
job
of
doing
5600
rentals
a
year.
That
is
a
lot,
but
they
do
a
good
job
and
I
I
just
said
with
this
proposed
change,
just
making
sure
that
there's
some
way
that
Thank
You.
G
So
we'll
have
the
last
124
Morris
Avenue
I'm
a
little
confused
by
the
changes
and
have
to
think
through
it,
and
maybe
ask
questions
to
clarify
some
things.
But
I
have
a
specific
question,
which
is
that
there
are
a
number
of
faculty
that
when
they
go
on
sabbatical,
currently
have
informal
agreements
where
they
have
people
stay
in
their
home
and
they're
gone
so
they're,
not
even
on
site.
When
these
this
informal
renting
is
occurring.
G
L
L
Okay,
now
in
regards
to
r1
zones,
I'm,
not,
then
just
r1
zones,
so
we
are
going
to
allow
short-term
rentals
in
r1
Suns.
However,
you
want
to
refer
to
them
short-term
else
in
r1
zones.
Is
that
what
is
proposed
at
this
moment
and
my
question
or
my
follow-up
question
in
my
case-
is
if
you're
going
to
allow
short-term
rentals
in
our
one
zones.
L
It
seems
that
if
that's
the
case
for
the
protection
of
the
folks
who
are
currently
residing
in
the
Harlan
zones,
that
there
should
be
stipulations
or
regulations,
although
hard
to
enforce
or
maybe
impossible
that
they
would
be
owner-occupied
at
the
time
of
the
rentals.
In
other
words,
you
don't
rent
your
house
out
and
go
away
for
the
weekend.
Somebody
is
on
site,
so
you
know
the
kind
of
conduct
that
is
going
to
be
happening
at
that
building.
During
that
stay.
B
L
B
They're
in
for
most
30
days,
only
they'd
have
to
get
a
search
term
rental
per
rent
if
they're
running
for
30
days
or
more
that,
if
you
give
a
an
annual
rental
permit,
if
they
wanted
to
do
both
they'd
have
to
buy
both
permits.
Basically,
but
they'd
be
subject
to
the
same
inspection
requirements
as
far
as
on-site
versus
an
off-site.
This
recommendation,
doesn't
it
doesn't
doesn't
address
that
I,
guess
and
so
I
mean
that
would
be
a
further
restriction.
L
Although
the
petition
just
made
reference
to
tourist
homes
when
I
took
part
in
that
petition
and
of
all
the
houses
I
called
on
on
Elmwood
Sunnyside
Lorraine
and
Hudson
68
people
were
opposed
to
tourist
homes.
Two
people
were
in
favor.
Three
people
said
they
needed
to
read
and/or,
think
about
it.
That's
93%
opposition
and
I
mean
that's
for
tourist
homes,
but
the
folks
in
r1
bought
in
r1
because
they
wanted
to
be
in
r1
and
when
I
was
up
here
in
front
of
this
Commission
a
year
or
two
ago
on
a
completely
different
situation.
L
Now,
in
regards
to
ball,
controls-
I,
don't
understand
all
this,
so
any
I'm
in
reference
to
r1
any
short-term
rental
or
long-term
rental,
but
we're
talking
about
short-term
rentals
are
going
to
have
to
meet
the
ball
controls.
That
is,
nobody
gets
a
license
for
a
short-term
rental
unless
they
can
meet
the
parking
requirements
on
their
property
and
no
on
street
parking
will
be
permitted
or
allowed
in
a
short-term
rental
in
an
are
ones.
I.
B
Know
I
think-
and
you
can
speak
to
this-
maybe
but
I
think
that
if
somebody
had
a
parking
failure
where
they
couldn't,
they
couldn't
meet
it,
they
are
allowed
to
go
and
see
a
variance,
but
on
the
face
of
it,
you're
correct.
If
they
didn't
have
the
off
street
parking
to
get
a
rental
from
it,
they
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
get
the
rental
permit
and
meet
that
use
because
they
don't
middle
meet
the
ball
control
requirement.
L
Are
they
gonna
be
able
to
get,
even
if
they
have
to
go
to
the
BCI,
a
short-term
rental
permit
in
an
r1?
If
they
can't
meet
the
parking?
Are
you
saying
they
can
go
to
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
and
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
can
say
yeah
you
can
have
you
don't
need
to
have
the
parking
Barilla
your
Park
on
the
street
I.
Don't
think!
That's
a
logical
solution
to
the
problem
that
I
anticipate
coming
down
the
road
at
me
with
this.
B
L
Question
is
my
question
is:
are:
are
you
going
to
make
it
say
that
parking
has
to
be
on
the
property
just
the
way?
It
is
for
the
other
people
that
have
rentals
at
this
time
in
our
one.
You
have
to
have
property
on
and
you
have
to
have
parking
on
your
property,
not
on
the
street.
That's
not
allowed,
at
least
that's
always
been.
My
interpretation
of
the
code
I
mean
I'm
moving
forward
with
the
short-term
rentals
in
the
r-1
districts.
My
question
is
questions
like
statement
is,
if
that's
good
enough
for
everybody.
L
That
is
the
concern
of
mine
and
many
people
in
the
city,
I'm,
quite
sure,
and
when
I
was
going
around
with
that
petition,
hey
I'll
gas
80%
of
the
people
were
even
unaware
that
this
was
even
they
were.
Just
living
their
lives
and
they're,
not
paying
attention
I'm
trying
to
pay
attention
and
and
protect
my
property
rights
and
that's
the
reason
I'm
here,
I
want
what
I
paid
for
and
I
want
my
quality
of
life
to
not
be
diminished
in
any.
For.
B
D
Well,
the
process
would
be
that
they
would
come
in,
they
didn't
have
they
didn't
meet
the
ball
controls
this
code
office
would
deny
that
and
then
the
appellant
has
an
opportunity
to
have.
We
have
to
give
them
an
opportunity
to
appeal
great
if
they
normally
you'd
appeal
the
courts.
In
this
case
we
would.
We
would
appeal
by
back
today
or
zoning
and.
B
Does
not
issue
you
experiences
so,
for
example,
in
an
art
one
zone
they're
not
allowed
issue
a
permit
for
a
manufacturing
facility,
or
something
like
that.
However,
when
it
comes
to
setbacks
and
parking
and
all
those
issues
that
are
parking
is
allowed
in
our
one
zones.
Rentals
are
allowed
on
our
one
zone,
et
cetera,
so
they're
allowed
to
ask
for
a
variance
from
a
parking
requirement
they
issued.
B
Yes,
parking,
yeah
you're
allowed
to
appeal,
and
we
we've
even
had
people
appeal
to
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
relating
to
bed
breakfast
and
the
poor
design
appeal
has
always
shot
those
down
zero
to
five
I
believe
in
May
recommendations
that
they
take
it
to
City
Council
or
the
Planning
Commission
to
get
the
zoning
changed
right,
because
the
argument
was
from
the
Board
of
Zoning
bill
that
movie
with
that
bed
and
breakfast
of
the
use
and
they
could
not
award
a
use.
Berenice
right,
I
am.
L
Can't
you
just
make
it
so:
bed-and-breakfast
or
short-term
rentals
are
not
allowed
in
our
one
zones,
or
they
must
provide
parking
for
their
short-term
rentals
in
our
one
zones.
Are
you
telling
me
that's
infringing
on
somebody's
rights
or
you
can't
legally
make
that
rule?
You
can't
make
that
law,
because
that's
the
protection,
the
folks
in
the
r-1,
need
to
not
have
their
right
further
diminished
or
their
quality
of
life
infringed
upon
here.
I
Mr.
chair
mr.
stopper
I
believe
that
the
changes
that
were
proposed
to
number
five
in
the
rentals
is
going
to
automatically
requires
them
to
meet
the
Bulkington.
All
controls
for
the
parking.
We're
not
saying
you
can
have
a
short-term
rental
and
in
our
one
zone,
without
meeting
the
bulk
controls,
which
includes
the
parking
bulk
controls.
So.
L
I
L
L
Let
let
everything
be
as
you
as
you
wish,
and
all
the
bees
are
threes
on
our
Tunes,
maybe
even
on
the
main
thoroughfares
as
they
pass
through
an
r1
zone,
but
then
keep
the
short-term
rentals
out
of
the
r1
zone
and
the
folks
who
have
bought
their
property
and
expected
to
live
under
certain
conditions
can
continue
to
live
under
the
conditions
to
which
they
purchased
our
property,
some
at
great
expense
and
most
of
whatever
expenses
they
can
afford
they're
in
an
r1
zone,
because
it's
r1.
Where
do
we
go
for
peaceful
and
quiet
enjoyment?
A
C
C
Don't
particularly
object
to
the
first
part
of
that
statement,
but
I
do
I
have
great
concern
about
the
second
part,
which
says
keeping
of
not
more
than
three
adult
renters
plus
related
children
by
a
non-resident
owner,
and
my
concern
here
has
to
do
with
the
affordable
housing.
It's
an
issue
that
the
city
is
concerned
about
and
as
long
as
you
have
a
property
that
you
rent
long
term
or
short
term,
that
has
not
previously
been
a
rentable
property.
C
B
I
would
say
we're
I,
don't
think
I
mean
unless
he's
difficult,
I,
don't
think
we're
ready
to
vote
today,
because
I
think
we
need
to
see
how
any
recommendations
on
the
other.
You
know
what
we're
gonna
put
forward
on
the
other
sections
of
the
code
that
support
this.
If
you
were
to
make
this
change
to
the
zoning
code
so
and
my
I
guess
my
my
commitment
to
the
Commission
would
be
that
I
will
work
with
my
staff
and
the
administration
to
get
that
language
pulled
together
so
that
we
have
you
know
later
this
month.
B
F
There's
a
big
pivot
with
what
was
brought
forward.
I
also
think
in
all
fairness
for
City
Council,
in
particular
the
author
of
the
original,
to
be
able
to
look
over
and
more
detail
the
changes
that
this
body
has
brought
forward,
but
again
I
mean
I
would
just
like
the
stress
that
I
appreciate
those
who
did
come
to
the
to
the
public
forum.
I
apologize
for
not
being
there
I
did
review,
though
the
comments
that
took
place
as
we
reported
but
I
also
again
feel
that
these
are.
F
Responsible
changes
in
enlisting
and
addressing
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
came
forward,
I
think
the
to
have
this
come
under
title.
29
is
a
good
responsible
change
or
a
path
forward
for
having
short-term
rentals
in
the
city
of
Athens
in
the
r-1
neighborhoods,
but
again,
I
think
everyone
needs
time
to
chew
on
this
happily
I'm
sorry.
B
Basically,
you
know,
call
a
bluff
for
lack
of
a
better
term
and
just
just
put
one
in
anyway,
and
he
just
wanted
to
pay
the
fine
and
so
sought
to,
and
so
our
thought
process
there
with
that
was.
He
was
baiting
us
into
a
situation
where
you
know
we
could.
We
could
create
legislation
that,
ultimately
we
would
lose
in
court,
and
so
rather
than
rather
than
create
a
situation
where
we
just
outright
said
something
couldn't
occur.
Crafting
you
know,
common-sense
regulations
around
it
and
then
allowing
to
occur
in
certain
conditions
would
protect
the
city.
A
Still
have
a
concern
on
number
five,
as
far
as
I
don't
see
where
it
says
owner
has
to
be
on
premises,
and
you
know
if
you
want
to
still
do
long
term.
You
know
yeah
you're
turning
that
over
to
a
student,
a
faculty
member,
something
of
that
nature.
If
your
we're
still,
though,
in
the
same
position
as
far
as
allowing
a
short
term
usage
without
the
owner
on-site
and
that
that
would
be
concerned,
one
number
two
I
still
go
back
to
one
of
the
first
things.
A
I
said
I'm
trying
to
understand
is
at
that
point,
since
we're
formalizing
a
business
within
the
r-1
somebody
having
to
go,
get
permits
to
me.
That
becomes
a
business,
and
at
that
point,
why
don't
we
open
up?
Why
aren't
we
allowed
if
the
parking
is
available?
Why
can't
people
use
their
homes,
then
for
business
beyond
just
the
independent
stuff
that
they
do
at
home
without
traffic
coming
in
or
how,
as
I
understand
its
previous?
It's
currently
prohibited
right
now,.
B
A
I
I
B
In
the
in,
like
in
a
coding
economy,
there's
a
large
number
of
people
who
use
their
home
for
write
business
I
mean
that
they
write
applications
for
iPhone
or
whatever
else,
and
they
work
out
of
their
home
and
so
I.
Don't
think
we
would
want
to
prohibit
people
from
doing
that
by
changing
our
zoning
code.
And
but
you
know
it's
it's
it's
it's
part
of
you
know
it's
part
of
what
people
do
in
our
ones
in
certain
is's
could.
H
B
B
F
M
I'm
Chris,
fourth
ward,
I,
think
that
one
thing
that's
getting
muddled
right
now
is
that
this
is
just
the
first
part
of
the
package
that
it
has
been
going
through
to
Council
to
address
this
issue,
seeing
how
there's
concern,
rightly
among
neighbors,
of
all
the
different
zones-
it's
not
just
our
one
and
it's
not
just
in
the
the
large
lot
are
ones
that
this
potentially
can
have
an
impact
on.
That's
why
there
is
a
whole
regulatory
package
that
would
go
with
this.
M
Zoning
is
not
a
very
good
vehicle
to
put
these
sort
of
little
things
in,
because
it
makes
the
zoning
code
very
onerous
and
hard
to
interpret
and
hard
to
enforce.
So
there
is
the
chapter
11
license,
requirements
that
that
have
been
being
going
through.
Council
we've
had
one
committee
meeting:
that's
that's
going
to
be
probably
I,
don't
want
to
bring
it
up
anymore
this
year,
so
I
will
bring
up
with
what
you
guys
have
put
together
that
Chapter
eleven
sort
of
regulations
which
does
address
the
issue
of
being
on
site
or
not
on
site.
M
C
M
Is
this
took
me
two
years
to
write
so
like
Joni
was
saying:
what's
out
there,
I
looked
at
Sister
Cities,
you
know,
are
our
cities
that
we
look
to
at
the
University
and
for
City
Council
see
what
they
were
doing.
I
looked
at
some
of
the
more
progressive
codes
that
are
out
there.
I
spent
a
lot
of
hours
at
two
different,
three
different
conferences
going
to
informational
workshops
about
this.
So
it's
not
something.
That's
been
picked
out,
it's
not
something,
also,
that's
being
specially
developed
for
anyone
property
owner
in
the
city.
M
A
I
L
I'm
not
concerned
about
what
any
other
town
is
doing
in
Ohio
or
America
I'm
concerned
about
Athens
Ohio
and
our
ones,
and
you
know
the
big
catch
phrase.
A
lot
of
times
now
is
sustainability.
Sustainability
of
this
sustainability
that
I
want
sustainability,
I
want
to
sustain
what
I
purchased
and
the
quality
of
life
I
expected
when
I
purchased
it,
and
that
is
to
maintain
the
r-1
zone
for
the
r-1
folks.
L
B
That
is
mostly
wrapped
up,
I,
believe
all
of
the
villages
and
cities
within
the
county
have
approved
their
section
of
that
code
or
their
section
of
that
plan.
Excuse
me,
and
our
Regional
Planning
Commission
will
be
forwarding
that,
on
to
the
state
at
the
end
of
this
month,
also
has
an
update,
the
the
B
to
D
rezoning
at
City
Council
that
was
approved
on
Monday
evening
by
a
vote
of
five
to
two
and
we're
wrapping
up
the
final
draft
for
distribution
very
soon
of
the
cities
any
comprehensive
plan.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
K
A
F
That
there's
a
jolly
old
fellow
and
his
wife
will
be
arriving
on
Court
Street
this
evening
at
6:00
p.m.
so
just
be
cognizant
of
the
fact.
There
will
be
a
wagon
giving
rides
to
families
and
children,
but
we
kick
off
a
holiday
season
this
evening
at
6:00
p.m.
with
the
tree
lighting
and
those
wines.
A
lot.