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Athens Planning Commission - July 6, 2023
A
Good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
the
Athens
City
Planning
Commission
meeting,
it
is
Thursday
July
6th
and
it
is
12
12
P.M.
Looking
up
and
down
the
diocese,
the
initial
business
in
front
of
us
is
to
establish
a
quorum.
We
do
have
a
quorum
with
one
member
excused
and
that
is
commissioner
Phillips
disposition.
Oh
and
administer
the
oath
for
anybody
who's
wishing
to
speak
to
the
Planning
Commission.
If
you
just
raise
your
right
hand,
do
you
swear
that
everything
you're
going
to
tell
before
the
Planning
Commission
is
truthful
and
honest?
B
Would
like
to
propose
that
we
accept
a
meeting
minute
or
the
minute
meaning
minutes
as
presented
with
one
adjustment
on
the
second
page
part
of
the
way
down
where
it
says.
John
katowski's
commented
that
there
is
property
in
Lancaster
and
it
should
be
on
Lancaster
I
was
talking
about
Lancaster
Street
sure
there.
D
A
Discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor
signify
for
saying,
aye,
aye
opposed
same
sign
all
right
cases.
We
don't
have
any
cases
today.
We
do
have
communications,
we
have
first
up
and
David.
If
you
want
to
kind
of
give
a
preamble
to
this
David
Riggs,
we
have
the
University
Estates
PUD,
slash,
affordable
housing,
development.
D
Thank
you
mayor
members
of
the
Planning
Commission.
This
is
a
PUD
and
we
don't
see
a
lot
of
these
a
planned
unit,
development
for
for
a
project.
That's
a
little
bit
of
a
complicated
process.
It
starts
with
Planning
Commission,
who
reviews
a
preliminary
planned
unit
development
plan.
You
would
approve
that
preliminary
plan
and
then
the
final
plan
would
come
up
after
a
public
hearing.
D
D
If
we
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
do
this
preliminary
plan,
we
actually
have
to
have
a
public
hearing
at
the
Planning
Commission
and
I
have
to
have
that
public
I
have
public
notification
certified
mail
out
14
days
prior
to
the
public
hearing,
so
if
I
could
get
so,
I'll
need
to
get
those
out
today
to
about
25
residents
and
I.
Have
the
I
have
the
notice
ready
to
go?
D
A
Before
I
turn
it
over
to
our
visitors
here
today,
you
know
I
in
looking
at
this
and
understanding
these
Lots,
but
then
also
in
a
conversation
that
I
had
with
Mr
Lawson
is
that
you
know
you
you're
going
to
be
building
these
units,
but
the
Lots
it
may
not
line
up
with
where
exactly
where
the
unit
is
going
to
be
placed
which
I
really
understand.
I
do
I
mean
I'm
sitting
here
in
my
head,
trying
to
think
if
you're
building
something
that
is
a
structure
within
a
lot,
that's
not
difficult
to
do.
A
But
when
you
look
at
those
you
know,
the
the
we've
got
these
party
walls
with
these
units
and
how,
in
the
world,
when
you're
sitting
there
trying
to
if
they're
established
and
then
you're
sitting
there
trying
to
build
around
those,
you
know,
I
can
certainly
understand
that.
That's
a
challenge
to
be
had
yeah,
director,
Riggs
yeah.
D
So
what
we're?
What
we're
going
to
approve
is
a
plan
and
not
not
a
plot,
and
those
are
two
different
things,
so
this
plan
can
be
adjusted,
might
make
Minor
Adjustments
to
the
plan
when
it
goes
into
construction
and
the
buildings
you're
correct
could
easily
be
off
six
inches
and
then
you
know
you'd
have
part
of
part
of
a
lot
on
another
on
another
building.
So
we
don't
want
to
do
that.
So
we've
got
a
preliminary
plan.
E
You
know,
there's
phasing
that
will
happen,
and
so
you
know
my
gut
feel
is
we'll
actually
have
to
act
a
couple
times
to
approve
plats,
maybe
on
the
on
the
first
phase
after
those
buildings
are
built
in
order
to
actually
sell
them
so
that
those
could
be
sold
with
a
properly
recorded
lot
line
prior
to
the
other
buildings.
Getting
built.
I
would
think-
and
you
know
these
gentlemen
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
what
I
want
to
do?
E
I
guess
is
you
know
as
we're
talking
about
how
we
go
about
this
support
them,
as
best
we
can
in
in
you
know
not
having
any
administrative
barriers
as
they're
attempting
to
market
the
property.
Given
that
that
you
know
it
may
be
built
in
phases,
and
we
might
have
to
you
know,
approve
one
plat.
That
is
the
first
few,
with
the
actual
lot
lines
surveyed
in
after
the
thing's
built
and
then
and
then
subsequently
come
back
for,
like
the
second
phase
or
something
along
those
lines.
Can
you
speak
to
that
at.
D
All
yeah
so
I've
talked
to
the
law
director
on
this
about
platting
and
then
re-platting,
and
we
have
the
ability
to
do
that,
so
we
would
plant
it
and
then,
as
it
changes
and
New
Lots
get
sold,
we
would
do
a
re-platz.
Those
would
not
have
to
go
through
this
process
because
those
that
replied
is
going
to
be
minor
enough.
The
changes
are
going
to
be
small
enough
that
you
don't
have
to
review
it
again.
Those
would
actually
get
could
consecutively
recorded
at
the
County
Recorders.
Okay,.
C
E
I'll
start-
and
this
is
something
that
that
director,
Riggs
and
I
spoke
about
and
then
and
then
I
actually
gave
John
a
call
a
little
bit
earlier
from
today.
One
of
the
things
that
will
be
important
is
establishing
the
structure
by
which
maintenance
is
able
to
be
done
on
each
building
out
in
the
future.
So
if
you
know
there's
a
building
that
is
on
three
separate
Lots,
with
the
lot
line
up
the
middle
wall
and
20
years
from
now
or
30
years
from
now,
the
owners
need
a
roof
done.
E
Some
sort
of
you
know
language
in
the
Deeds
that
make
it.
You
know
a
mutual
responsibility
of
all
three
parties
to
to
have
that
done
in
the
future,
and
you
know
one
of
the
discussions
we
had
was
was,
you
know,
there's
probably
some
models
out
there
for
town
homes
that
are
independently
owned.
If
that's
something
that
that
you've
spoken
about
since
then
or
or
if
you're,
if
you're
still
looking
at
just
to.
Let
us
know.
F
Okay
as
a
board
member
of
the
HOA,
that's
currently
in
existence
for
University
of
States
I,
also
because
we
talked
very
briefly
about
maybe
an
HOA.
They
don't
want
to
do
an
HOA
that
it's
cumbersome
not
able
to
speak
for
the
board,
but
speaking
as
simply
a
board
member
I
I
think
we
would
welcome
the
idea
of
them
joining
our
HOA
so
that
we
would
have
some
control
over
the
Aesthetics
long
term.
Okay,
because
it
is
part
of
the
development
but
I
think
by
deed
restriction.
Is
how
we'll
address
that.
Certainly.
E
And
I
think
that,
thanks
for
that
that
clarification
I,
you
know
how
you
decide
to
do
the
HOA
between
the
developer
and
the
and
the
UE
existing
Haas.
You
know
really
up
to
you.
I
think
from
the
city's
perspective,
just
having
something
in
place,
and
it
sounds
like
the
deed
restriction
is,
is
the
way
to
go
the
other.
The
other
comment
that
I
had
Beyond
you
know,
shared
maintenance
would
be
just
access
to
the
rear
of
the
properties.
So
you
know
and
I
think
you
know
some
sort
of
cross
access.
E
Easement
would
probably
be
the
way
that
that
would
be
put
in
place,
and
here
would
be
my
situation.
So
you
have
a
shared
lot
or
shared
shared
building
on
three
different
Lots
with
the
wall.
Dividing
that
and
I
live
in
the
middle
property
and
and
and
commissioner
Bain
and
commissioner
Patterson
are
on
the
two
side
properties
and
they
don't
like
me
at
all.
I
can't
get
to
my
backyard
because
they
won't,
let
me
cross
their
their
backyard
portion
to
get
to
get
to
get
to
there.
E
So
something
that
would
allow,
for
you,
know
all
three
owners
to
walk
across
and
go
across
all
three
little
portions
of
shared
accesses.
But
it
sounds
like
you're
thinking
about
those
things,
because
this
is
kind
of
unique
as
a
development
go
and-
and
we
want
to
support
it,
because
we
want
to
see
this
level
of
density
in
this
type
of
housing.
But
it's
just
something
to
put
in
place
as
it
as
it
gets
recorded.
E
A
A
B
Is
it
safe
to
say
that
the
only
thing
that
could
happen
as
a
part
of
the
development
of
this
property
is
the
number
of
units
got
smaller
that
if
they
were
to,
if
there
was
a
as
you're
developing
it,
if
you
found
a
way
and
decided
maybe
adding
a
unit
or
two,
you
would
have
to
come
back
to
the
commission
and
go
through
the
process.
Again?
Is
that
safe
to
say,
but
it
could
be
reduced
if,
for
some
reason
you
find
soil
or
rock
or
something
that
really
prohibits
you
from
doing
all
40
plus
units?
C
B
C
G
E
G
G
G
H
E
H
H
I'm
sorry
could
I
thought
of
Lincoln,
but
I
couldn't
remember
so
I
was
wondering
like
children's
stuff.
If
you
have
kids,
is
that
going
to
be
communal,
or
what
are
you
going
to
do
about
that?
Are
you
going
to
have
some
restrictions
on
what
you
put
like
swing
sets
pools
small
pools.
That
kind
of
thing.
G
H
H
F
F
F
If
they
desire
not
one
person
has
had
young
children,
I
did
get
two
different
people
on
Walnut
court
that
inquired
both
for
well,
one
of
them
I
knew
what
they
wanted.
They
wanted
to
buy
one
and
use
it
as
a
rental
until
such
time
as
their
kids
were
old
enough,
that
they
can
move
it
themselves
and,
as
we've
discussed
before,
these
are
going
to
be
deed,
restricted.
They
have
to
be
under
occupied
for
the
first
five
years.
There's
no,
if
ands
or
buts
about
that
so.
F
I
Hi
Rob
Barbara
glack
live
here
in
the
city
on
Morris
Avenue,
so
my
looking
at
this,
this
probably
is
in
the
right
detail
for
my
question.
So
are
there
any
Street
trees
being
included
in
this
project?
It
looks
like
there's
no
room
for
them.
There's
lots
of
driveways,
maybe
there's
no
space
for
trees.
I,
don't
know,
but
that's
a
big
missing
piece
if
it
doesn't
include
Street
trees
here,
I
think
so
everybody
can
address
that.
F
Called
Wood's
Edge
for
a
reason,
but
the
whole
the
whole
place
is
trees
right
now,
and
so
what
isn't
trees
is
where
the
prior
owner
came
in
and
did
it
Preparatory
land
clearing
for
a
street
the
places
surrounded
by
trees,
Dustin,
Woods
Edge?
So
and
and
if
you
look
at
the
density
of
the
buildings,
a
pretty
compact
I
wouldn't
be
I
wouldn't
be
worried,
whereas
we
have
a
requirement
in
UE
that
there
has
to
be
a
tree
planted
of
three
inch
caliber
for
every
50
feet.
D
So
the
planned
unit
development
process,
so
this
actually
comes
from
title
21
or
subdivision
regulations
and
those
subdivision
regulations
do
require
Street
trees.
You
have
the
ability,
in
a
planned
unit,
development
to
waive
any
and
all
of
those
requirements
in
the
in
the
zoning
code,
which
includes
Street,
trees,
setbacks
all
the
bulk
controls.
Those
are
all
allowed
to
be
modified
and
or
waived
using
this
planned
unit
development
process,
and
that's
why
it
has
to
go
through
both
the
Planning
Commission
and
city
council.
D
It
actually
needs
a
two-thirds
of
a
from
city
council
for
approval,
rather
than
a
straight
50
50
approval.
So
we
have
not
only
do
you
have
the
variance.
These
will
be
multiple
variance
requests
if
you
were
trying
to
do
it
in
a
different
way
to
the
board.
Is
zoning
appeals,
for
instance,
and
if
you
look
at
my
chart
that
I
asked
them
to
provide
here,
it
shows
us
lots
of
variances
from
the
strict
letter
of
the
zoning
encode.
D
The
lot
with
the
front
setbacks,
rear,
set
back
side,
yard
setbacks,
cut,
lock,
coverage,
there's
also
a
requirement
in
the
Pud
for
20
open
space,
which
you
could
wave
and
the
Pud
process.
If
you
choose
to
so
so.
The
street
trees,
the
bulk
controls,
the
little
setbacks
and
20
percent
open
space
are
all
variances
that
you
would
consider
before.
You
would
recommend
approval
of
this
plan.
E
D
Particular
they
require
the
Pud
requires
public
open
space,
so
it
would
be
like,
like
a
if
you
had
a
condominium
or
you
had
all
the
all.
The
property
was
open
space
around
the
buildings
that
would
be
common
open
space.
Again
that
you
can.
You
can
make
a
variance
for
that
requirement
in
in
this
PUD
process.
A
A
I
mean
we're
not
there
yet,
but
yeah
I
I
think
look
when
I
look
around
at
the
housing
stock
here
in
the
city
of
Athens
and
the
absolute
need
just
for
our
city
to
continue
to
grow
and
flourish.
You
know
when
I
look
at
the
economic
drivers,
sure
it's
new
businesses,
but
if
you
don't
have
housing
stock
for
those
new
employees
or
existing
employees
to
move
into
you're
dead
in
the
water
at
the
end
of
the
day.
So
again,
I
I
am
just
pleased
that
this
is
able
to
continue
on
its
path.
A
There
were
those
moments,
I'm
sure
much
like
you
guys
where
I'm
sitting
there
going.
Is
this
ever
going
to
happen?
I
think
in
particular
during
the
pandemic
and
watching
the
supply
chain
costs
rise
through
just
astronomically,
not
just
here
in
Athens,
you
know,
Across
the
Nation
and
around
the
globe
by
and
large,
but
again
I
I
have
to
applaud
you
for
continuing
and
not
giving
up
on
this
project.
A
D
D
Yeah,
so
at
the
last
meeting
we
talked
about
zoning
regulation
sign
regulation
changes,
those
are
still.
We
were
looking
at
flag
signs
and
some
changes
to
the
temporary
signs.
We
also.
You
also
asked
me
to
take
a
look
at
making
some
changes
to
the
code
to
allow
poultry
chickens
to
be
allowed
in
residential
zones
and
so
I
have.
Let
me
bring
I'll
pass
these
out
to
you.
I
have
a
couple
of
suggestions.
I
looked
at
a
lot
of
different.
D
What
I
did
was
I
looked
at
two
options.
One
is,
as
you
can
see,
on
the
first
page
change
the
230401
permitted
accessory
uses
to
the
keeping
of
fowl
or
farm
animals
in
a
building
at
least
100
feet
distant
from
every
instead
of
lot
line
adjacent
home.
So
you'd
have
to
keep
your
your
Coop,
your
chicken
coop
100
feet
from
your
neighbor's
house
alternately.
If
you
want
to
do
a
little
more
detail,
you
could
look
at
the
other
section
here
which
I
I
said
female
chickens.
D
No
roosters
may
be
kept
for
the
personal
enjoyment
in
an
outdoor
Predator
proof
structure,
no
more
than
four
chickens
may
be
kept
at
a
time
all
other
foul.
So
chickens
are
part
of
a
group
of
foul
which
includes
pheasants
and
turkeys
and
ducks,
and
so
we're
only
talking
about
the
keeping
of
chickens
and
not
roosters
and
not
any
of
those
other
animals.
D
So
all
their
types
of
foul
will
be
the
will
be
the
same
as
required
for
farm
animals
if
the
last
page,
one
if
we
wanted
to
do
this
was
a
was
a
FYI
sheet
that
came
from
Cleveland
Tennessee
and
it's
really
good
I
think
it
has
a
lot
of
information
about
keeping
chickens
and
some
of
the
safety
requirements.
If
you
wanted
to
do
that,
I
would
recommend
that
if
we
didn't
want
to
make
this
change
to
the
god
of
board
ordinance
that
we
also
include
an
information
packet
for
people
that
wanted
to
do
that.
D
There
are
several
communities
that
require
licensing
of
the
keeping
of
chickens
and
then
inspections
I'm,
not
sure
we
want
to
go
that
direction.
If
they
become
a
nuisance
to
the
neighbors,
you
can
look
at
our
current
Title
IX
90101
animals
at
large
and
90107.
That's
the
second
page
in
the
packet
harboring
animals
that
are
a
nuisance.
So
if
they
do
become
a
nuisance,
we
actually
have
a
way
to
control
those
currently
in
our
city
code
and
I'll
follow
your
direction
on
how
to
proceed.
E
All
sorts
are
so
I
did
receive
information
from
the
sustainability
commission
commenting
on
this
and
they
had
done
a
survey
a
while
back
related
to
the
you
know,
public
sentiment
on
chickens
I'll
share
that
with
Commissioners
I
failed
to
do
so.
Prior
to
this
meeting
apologize
for
that
you
know
the
the
feedback
was
generally
Pro
that
came
out
of
the
survey.
I.
Think
that
that
you
know
there
is
some
renewed
interest,
especially
when
egg
prices
went
to
I.
Think
eight
dollars
a
dozen
here
a
few
months
ago,
I
think
they're
back
down
now.
E
E
E
We
talk
about
in
a
predator-proof
structure.
Would
the
idea
be
that
if
somebody
had
a
yard
that
they
would
not
allow
the
the
at
least
per
this
code,
that,
like
a
fenced
in
yard,
that
you
would
not
be
permitted
to
then
allow
the
the
chicken
to
walk
around
in
the
yard
we'd
have
to
stay
in
that
structure?
Yeah.
D
E
B
Well,
I
I
recently
built
a
chicken
coop
about
a
year
ago,
at
my
my
daughter-in-law's
in
in
out
in
Gloucester,
and
we
built
a
structure,
but
we
also
built
a
pen
where
they
could
get
out
and
run
around.
They
covered
on
all
sides,
including
the
top,
so
that
they
were
it
was
Predator
approved.
So
they
could
be
out
in
the
yard
and
still
comply
with
Predator
proof.
D
B
or
B
yeah,
so
it
the
the
one
the
first
B
is
just
is,
is
very
open
and
we
can
it
just
says
you
know
it's
you
can't
it
have
to
be
so
far
from
that's
really.
What
keeps
us
from
having
the
chickens
in
our
in
our
residential
area
right
now
is
that,
if,
if
it
has
to
be
a
hundred
feet
from
every
lot
line,
there's
no
backyard
big
enough
in
most
residential
areas
to
have
have
a
enclosed
structure
there.
D
E
I
Right,
oh
sure,
black
yeah
I
alerted
the
chair
of
the
sustainability
commission
about
your
discussion
at
the
last
meeting.
Even
though
I
wasn't
here,
I
watched
the
video
and
she
had
her
watch.
It
so
I
think
that
you're
right
about
the
Restriction
but
100
feet
from
a
building
is
still
probably
too
onerous
to
make
this
worthwhile.
I
So
I,
don't
know
what
the
second
alternate
was.
I,
don't
have
the
papers
in
front
of
me,
but
something
less
restrictive
than
that
would
be
better
I
think
we
already
have
chickens
in
the
city
in
some
places,
as
you
may
be
aware
of
you've
probably
heard
reports
on
the
west
side,
in
particular,
I've
seen
and
heard
reports
about
chickens
in
the
city
already
and
usually
they're
roaming,
around
backyards
not
being
contained,
and
then
jumping
fences
and
in
the
street.
I
Yes,
but
I
think
this
is
a
good
idea
and
the
sustainability
commission,
as
was
mentioned,
had
investigated
this.
They
found
it
was
a
little
polarizing,
some
people
very
enthusiastic,
but
there's
some
that
also
don't
like
this
very
much
but
I
think
the
the
what's
happened
recently
with
our
focus
on
sustainability,
plus
the
the
egg
prices
really
have
I
think
helped
to
change
some
of
those
perspectives
too.
So
I
think
we'll
find
a
lot
more
supportive
people
supportive
of
these
kind
of
changes.
I
Something
Austin
said
at
the
last
meeting,
though
I
think
was
an
interesting
idea,
but
it
would
probably
require
licensing
and
permitting
which
we
may
want
to
not
want
to
go
there,
but
was
making
sure
the
neighbors
are
okay,
with
chickens
being
installed
in
somebody's
yard.
Is
that
anything
included
in
here
like
that
or
is
this
just?
Is
there
any
permitting
process
at
all.
I
D
Communities
that
will
permit
sometimes
it's
a
one-time
license
fee.
Sometimes
it's
a
annual
fee.
There
are
some
that
are.
There
are
some
communities
that
do
monthly
inspections
on
all
the
facilities
that
are
out
there
and
that's
a
little,
much
I,
think
for
for
us
or
for
my
department
anyway,
to
be
able
to
do,
we
could
license
them
if
you
wanted
to
I.
Just
did
not
include
that
in
the
in
this
proposal,
so
those
aren't
included.
They.
I
Were
not,
and
that
may
be
okay,
I
guess
they're,
like
you,
said,
there's
a
process
if
there's
a
problem
to
address
it.
If
neighbors
are
concerned
about
it,
there's
a
process
to
go
through
that
that
might
be
sufficient,
but
I
did
like
the
idea
that
Austin,
but
then
it
requires
another
process
that
we'd
have
to
deal
with
as
a
city
which
may
be
too
much
to
take
on
so
I.
Don't
want
that
to
stop
this
change.
I
think.
Maybe
if
there's
problems
enough
problems
relooking,
it
might
make
sense,
though
thanks
sure.
E
E
It's
it's
not
like.
You
can
go
and
attribute
the
that
that
chicken
to
a
particular
property
that
somebody
is,
you
know
harboring
them
illegally.
It's
just
it's
I,
don't
know
where
that
chicken
came
from
and
it's
just
running
around.
So
that's
that
seems
to
be
what
we,
what
we,
what
we
run
into
the
most
and
and
we
deal
with
it
when
we
get
complaints,
we'll
research
for
them,
yep.
A
9.01.07
harboring
and
was
deemed
to
get
nutrition
so
there's
a
mechanism
for
a
neighbor.
In
my
opinion,
I
mean
I
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
that
needs
to
be
codified
in
terms
of
advising
your
neighbors
that
you're
going
to
have.
You
know
if
we
get
to
that
point
to
where
we're
gonna
have
chicken
coops
I.
Think
that's
a
good
neighborly
thing
to
do.
A
D
I,
didn't
I
didn't
really
see
any
changes
that
that
needed
that
from
your
suggestions
that
that
we
I
could
make
here,
I
think
this
is,
if
you
guys,
are
okay
with
us,
we
could
move
forward
and
take
this
too.
Then
we
need
to
go
to
City
Council
for
a
for
their
review.
After
your
recommendation
from
from
this
board.
A
Oh,
these
are
those
Flappy
flags
that
we've
seen
that
are
more
vertical
than
horizontal
in
size
and
then
also
the
inclusion
of
the
maximum
number
of
temporary
signs
shall
not
exceed
to
number
two
per
property
for
multiple
businesses
operating
on
one
property.
The
maximum
number
of
temporary
signs
shall
be
one
one
per
business.
C
B
F
A
E
Yeah,
thank
you,
sir.
So
I
asked
to
have
this
item
be
placed
on
the
Planning
Commission
agenda
in
lieu
of
our
city.
Planner
not
being
here
I've
been
working
recently
with
the
Athens
and
Economic
Development
Council,
through
a
a
technical
assistance
grant
awarded
to
the
City
by
Ohio
Southeast,
which
is
the
arm
of
jobs
Ohio
in
Southeast
Ohio,
for
for
technical
assistance
in
in
planning
in
corridors-
and
you
know,
we've
talked
about
Corridor
planning
and
there's
a
whole
lot
of
other
information
that
came
with
this.
E
This
Corridor
is
the
the
only
area
really
in
the
heart
of
the
city
that
that
is
considered
an
opportunity
Zone,
which
is
the
the
mechanism
that
was
put
in
place
several
years
ago
in
certain
census,
tracts
across
the
United
States
to
allow
for
or
to
promote
reinvestment
in
those
areas
and
the
the
it's
they're
somewhat
complicated.
But
the
bottom
line
is
that
that,
if
you
invest
in
in
one
of
these
areas,
then
your
capital
gains
taxes
are
waived
after
a
certain
amount
of
time
for
improvements
that
are
made
in
those
opportunity
zones.
E
E
You
know
Economic,
Development
and
and
if
there
were
an
occasion
to
use
a
the
mechanism
like
we
used
for
the
for
some
of
the
other
locations
like
East,
State,
Street
and
then,
and
then
this
this
new
development
at
University
States
a
tiff
as
a
way
to
offset
costs
to
make
some
Redevelopment
happen.
We
did
make
some
zoning
changes
last
year.
I
think
it
was
last
year.
E
Attributable
to
various
projects
that
have
happened,
Palmer,
Place,
probably
being
one
of
the
biggest
ones
in
in
recent
years
that
sits
empty
or
you
know,
two-thirds
empty
most
of
the
time,
and
so
when
we
talk
about
potential
Redevelopment
densification,
you
know
there's
some
some
opportunities
in
this
particular
area
in
the
Far
Eastern
end
of
the
corridor,
there's
there's
one
property
owner
that
owns
quite
a
few
properties,
all
all
together.
That's
another
area
that
that
you
know
currently
is
zoned
I.
Think
it's
Zone
B3
right
now,
there's
a
lot
of
single
family
homes.
E
In
that
stretch,
it's
on
the
southern
side
of
Simpson
Avenue
right
near
near
the
end
of
the
street.
That
could
be
a
a
mixed-use
type.
You
know
first
floor
commercial,
second,
third,
for
residential
type
development
and
again
allow
for
a
little
bit
more
density
in
in
the
the
dense
parts
of
our
city.
This
document
that
you
see
on
the
front
they
talk
about
transects.
E
Basically,
this
is
the
planner
speak,
for
you
know
the
way
we
envision
an
area
if
it
if
it
isn't
already
zoned
a
certain
way
that
we
have
Vision
in
an
area
being
rezoned
or
a
zoning
overlay
placed
on
top
of
it.
That
promotes
a
certain
kind
of
growth,
the
way
that
we
want
to
see,
and
so
as
we
as
we
did
some
charrettes
in
our
last
session.
This
is
kind
of
what
we
landed
on
and
a
lot
of
this
comports
with
the
existing
zoning
that
that
is
already
there.
E
E
So
you
know,
basically
identification
of
that
particular
area
also
shows
some
public
space
there
along
steps
that
Avenue,
proper
and
just
kind
of
an
Envision
of
what
it
could
look
like.
The
second
image
that
you
see
is
is
a
a
Redevelopment
of
an
existing
surface
parking
lot
beside
the
Family
Dollar.
E
You
know
into
some
public
space,
not
that
this
would
necessarily
be
the
way
it
would
be
done.
But
again
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
concept,
and
again
the
idea
would
be
that
you
know
we
put
together
a
pretty
good
report
that
then
could
go
to
potential
developers
as
they're
looking
at
the
area,
and
then
the
last
page
is
that
area
that
I
mentioned
a
little
earlier,
which
was
where
there's
one
property
area
that
owns
all
the
way
from
oh
I.
E
Think
that
little
stretch
of
Grant
Street
down
to
is
it
Campbell
that
they
could
have.
You
know
Redevelopment
of
a
multi-story
building
first
floor,
commercial,
second,
third,
floor
residential
with
with
some
some
parking
in
the
back,
as
opposed
to
the
way
that
it
is
now
so
again.
These
are.
These
are
just
Concepts.
E
The
end
product
would
be
that
the
American
structure
point
is
is
putting
forward,
is
really
going
to
be
a
series
of
recommendations
on
updates
to
to
zoning
or
placement
of
zoning
overlays.
That
would
promote
certain
kinds
of
development
in
this
in
this
area,
with
the
goal
of
of
attracting
Economic,
Development
and
Redevelopment
in
this
particular
Zone,
and
then
any
mechanisms
that
that
they
would
recommend
for
us
to
you
know,
facilitate
that
and
and
make
the
numbers
work
like
like,
like
tiffs
or
Community
reinvestment
areas.
E
Other
other
tools
like
that,
so
that's
really
all
I
have
on
this
I
just
wanted
to
update
the
Commissioners
and
do
it
on
record
to
say
that
this
is
going
on
and
like
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
I'll
I'll
share
the
what
they
call
the
existing
conditions
report,
which
is
basically
just
what
we
all
know
to
be
the
existing
conditions,
just
a
more
Quantified
version.
You
know
the
number
of
on-street
parking
places,
the
member
of
off
street
parking
places
the
number
of
beds,
the
type
of
businesses
the
tax
base
in
this
particular
area.
E
E
B
A
I'll
make
one
note
on
this,
and
that
is
commissioner
Stone.
Please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
the
vast
majority
of
this
is
indicated
is
within
the
opportunity.
Zone
there
is
a
portion
that
is
not
the.
If
you
look
in
the
lower
right
hand,
corner
there's
the
recreational
commercial
Zone
that
Mill
Street,
that
is
Cur,
that
is
not
in
the
opportunity
Zone.
Yet
there
is
opportunity
in
Communications
between
my
Administration
and
the
universities
Administration
for
potential
development,
but
again
just
to
be
clear
that
it
is
not
in
the
opportunity
Zone.
D
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
if
you
look
at
that
corner
of
the
recreational
commercial
Zone
and
the
industrial
Zone
on
the
sheet,
we
were
just
talking
about.
I
just
got
her
some
calls
last
week
regarding
the
the
property
there.
It
actually
is
that
property
in
the
upper
left-hand
corner
of
the
recreational
commercial
zone
is
actually
partially
zoned
industrial
and
partially
zoned
B3
and
there's
some
people
there.
There
are
entities
that
are
interested
in
that
parcel
right
now,
so
they've
been
they've
been
talking
about
it.
I've
had
two
calls
on
it.
D
A
I
I
I
think
this
is
somebody
else's
plan,
but
that's
what
I
think
would
be
talked
about
for
a
b2d,
the
neighborhood
commercial
zone,
I'm
thinking,
that's
a
B1
Zone,
then
okay
seems
good
yeah
and
even
some
of
the
examples
here
are
things
that
I've
thought
of.
Like
the
parking
lot
Palmer
place,
I've
envisioned
with
the
parking
requirement
reduced,
they
could
repurpose
the
front
of
that
lot
into
a
resident
or
a
commercial
space.
I
In
the
first
floor
and
more
apartments
above
maybe
with
or
without
a
parking
deck
included,
they
might
still
need
they
might
not
have
enough
parking
if
they
were
to
do
that,
but
I've
envisioned
that
myself,
that
that
would
be
a
huge
Improvement
on
that
Corridor
to
put
something
useful
there,
and
some
of
these
other
ideas,
too,
are
great,
so
well.
I
love
these
Concepts
I'd
love
to
see
those
kind
of
things
happen,
but
you
know
get
the
zoning
in
place
to
enable
them
would
be
fantastic,
yeah
and
I.
I
E
So,
thank
you,
the
the
couple
different
overlays
that
we
have
in
the
city
right
now,
we've
got
the
the
Wellhead
protection
Zone,
that's
the
one
that
probably
most
people
understand
are
overlay.
It's
not
really
a
it's,
not
a
a
standalone
Zone,
but
it's
a
it's
a
in
that
case.
It's
a
series
of
additional
land
use
restrictions
levied
on
top
of
other
zoning
I.
E
Think
in
this
particular
instance,
it
might
be
maybe
not
restrictions,
maybe
flexibility
that
you
would
layer
over
otherwise
zoning
in
order
to
promote
Economic,
Development
and
so
I
I'm,
not
100.
Familiar
with
you
know
an
example
of
a
zoning
over
but
I.
You
know,
as
you
re-planning
literature
they
talk
about
how
it's
a
tool
in
particular
areas
to
achieve
a
certain
goal
where
otherwise,
the
zoning,
the
underlying
zoning
is,
is
inflexible
or
or
it's
it's
or
maybe
not
exactly
what
you're
trying
to
achieve.
E
I
H
Question
Bank
I'm
gonna,
let
it
go
I
have
some
thoughts
on
it,
but
I
hope
that
in
the
process
you
remember
that
we
have
a
sizable
influence
or
investment
in
this
area
and
I
hope
that
by
adding
crowding
to
it
we
don't
destroy
it.
I
mean
that's
the
problem.
I
mean
it's
a
very
short
Street,
for
example,
I
said
I,
wasn't
gonna,
say
it,
but
I
I
guess
I
can
see
all
kinds
of
potentials
unless
you
make
them
enter
them.
The
place
is
from
behind
at
least
the
student
housing.
That's
there
I
don't
know
or.
H
I,
just
don't
want
to
destroy
what
we
have
to
create
something
new
I.
You
know
I,
just
it's
a
cautionary
Tale.
The
other
thing
is
somebody
from
out
of
town
might
not
recognize.
This
is
just
an
observation
again
how
much
those
houses
in
the
blue
protrusion
down
to
the
open
space,
how
much
they
generate
my
goodness.
The
rentals
are
outrageous
and
where
are
they
going
to
go?
Are
they
going
to
move
up
by
me
and
I'll
come
into
houses,
there'll
be
more
traffic
on
Colombia,
then
oh
God,
okay,
but
I'm
all
through.
I
C
C
C
D
Yeah
about
nine
months
ago,
the
owner
of
the
property
wanted
to
redevelop
that
they
still
wanted
to
keep
it
as
a
Sonic
with
a
drive-through,
but
it
is
a.
It
was
at
the
time
a
conforming
non-conforming
legal
use
of
the
of
the
property,
because,
because
the
drive-through
was
within
200
feet
of
residential,
they
went
to
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
for
variants
and
got
the
variants
they
decided.
They
did
want
to
redevelop
it
as
a
smaller
store
with
a
drive-through.
D
They
said
that
the
that
what
they're
seeing
is
there
are
much
fewer
people
that
are
actually
going
into
the
facilities
to
eat.
It's
almost
all
drive
through,
so
they
they,
they
significantly
Shrunk
the
store
and
moved
it
a
little
bit
and
are
redeveloping
it
pulling
it
up
out
of
of
the
flood
plain
and
putting
in
a
whole
new
whole
new
store
there
they're
going
to
use
the
same
access
points
on
Stimson
as
they
have
existing
it'll.
Look
a
lot
nicer
when
it's
done.
I
D
C
B
Was
a
strong
advocate
of
trying
to
maintain
the
character
of
of
what
was
going
on
there
and
at
the
college,
green,
and
so
one
time,
I
tore
a
house
down
I
replaced
it
with
another
house
when
we
decided
it
wasn't
worth
saving
and
use
it
for
commercial
space.
So
I
think
it's
real
important
for
us
to
to
look
hard
at
some
things
you
know,
and
and
as
Rob
was
talking
and
and
David
you
were
talking
about
the
what's
going
on
at
Sonic
I
mean
that's
right
at
the
entry,
it's
real
important.
B
What
we
do
there
it
you
know,
that's
real
important
and
so
I
I
think
we
need
to
be
very
cautious
about
that.
I
I
worry
that
we
will
put
ourselves,
we
we
are,
or
we
will
put
ourselves
in
a
position
where
well
you
know
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
about
that.
You
know
so
because
it's
a
smaller
building
or
whatever
it
is
I
was
peaked
when
when
Rob
was
talking
about
three
drive-throughs
I'm
going
whoa
three
drive-throughs
on
that
site,
holy
cow,
but
anyway,
that's
just
just
a
comment.
A
Oh
and
a
good
comment:
I
mean
it.
It
put
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
into
thinking
what
the
new
Fire
Station
headquarters
should
look
like
to
your
point.
You
know,
you're
talking
about
a
major
Gateway
I
would
contend.
Probably
the
major
Gateway
now
into
the
city
bath
and
especially
after
Odon,
is
done
doing
their
work
on
the
new
roundabout
and
50
32
33,
interchange,
so
yeah,
but
your
points
will
taken,
but
again
this
this
whole
concept.
That
structure
Point
has
been
working
with
us
for
what
a
year
give
or
take
six
months.
A
Know
you
know
post
covet,
everything
seems
like
a
year,
so
it's
you
know,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
the
structure
point
to
come
and
and
maybe
even
speak
to
this
body
in
a
little
more
detail
as
to
what
their
thought
process
was
and
in
the
process.
I
think
that
the
public
needs
to
hear
again
that
this
has
been
a
six-month
process.
This
isn't
something
that
was
just
churned
out
by
you
know
an
entity
that
is
not
necessarily
here
in
the
city
of
Athens
but
I.
It's
been
wonderful,
working
with
American
structure.
E
To
your
point,
sir,
you
know
they.
They
held
a
series
of
stakeholder
meetings
with
Property
Owners
along
here,
as
we
developed
this
as
well
as
folks
in
the
in
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
There's
a
meeting
I
think
with
Realtors.
As
we
talked
about
the
market
for
for
property
in
town,
and
so
it
was,
it
was
not
a
in
a
vacuum.
Well,.
B
I
don't
believe
it
was,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
right.
You
know,
because,
because
there's
a
lot
of
pressures
you
know
there
were
a
lot
of
pressures
on
what
we
do
around
the
college.
Green
and
Things
We
Tour,
some
houses
down
and
buildings
down-
and
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
you
know.
I
remember
dealing
with
the
College
of
Communications.