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A
Good
evening
welcome
to
Athens
City
Council.
It
is
Monday
November
14th
2005
this
evening,
City
Council
is
going
to
be
meeting
in
a
series
of
committee
meetings,
first
with
committee
of
the
whole,
the
arts,
recreation,
finance
and
personnel
and
finally,
planning
and
development.
First,
the
committee
of
the
whole
will
be
chaired
by
Dale
Tam
P
fail
Thank.
B
You,
mr.
president,
good
evening
this
is
a
committee
of
the
whole.
The
one
agenda
item
we
have
on
the
committee
of
the
holes
meeting
is
to
discuss
further
the
proposal
that
we
had
heard
from
the
Straus
Stroud's
run
task
force.
It
was
a
an
excellent
proposal,
but
we
were
we
had
many
things
going
on
that
evening,
and
so
here
it
is
on
the
first
thing
on
the
agenda
with
an
opportunity
for
council
members
and
members
of
that
group
to
to
have
a
more
casual
conversation
about
issues
that
may
have
occurred
to
council.
B
B
One
of
the
one
of
the
issues
that
I
wanted
to
air
out
with
regard
to
the
budget
is
that
we
have
updated
and
heard
in
the
proposal
some
estimates
for
what
current
operational
costs
are
and
then
what
what
our
future
obligations
might
be,
and
one
of
the
questions
I
had
was
what
what
are
our
short
term
and
long
term
abilities
to
meet
those
obligations.
We
heard
talk
of
grants.
We
heard
talk
of
endowments.
B
C
Currently,
happy
to
Strauss
run
and
in
that
there
would
also
be
some
degree
of
partnerships
of
the
sharing
of
costs.
Odnr
has
shared
their
budget
information
with
us.
Both
revenue
and
expense.
Wise
revenue,
wise,
does
not
cover
expenses
by
a
long
ways,
and
we
really
don't
have
any
anticipation
that
revenue
for
charges
out
there
was
really
going
to
cover
all
of
the
expenses,
even
in
the
long
term.
C
If
we
go
with
that,
roughly
one
hundred
and
thirty
seven
thousand
dollars,
which
is
a
pretty
much
a
net
cost
after
the
collection
is
and
fees
for.
One
thing
o
DNR
would
give
us
is
the
use
of
the
current
house.
That's
out
there,
that's
used
by
the
division
of
watercraft
that
rental
income
would
then
come
to
the
city
or
assuming
that
we
would
continue
that
relationship,
and
then
there
are
also
there's
the
boat
dock
fees.
There's
certain
degree
of
concession
income
in
the
summertime,
some
camping
fees.
C
So,
there's
a
number
of
fees
that
were
stated
by
the
by
the
Advisory
Committee
and,
as
I
said,
we
get
down
to
this
one
hundred
and
thirty-seven
thousand
or
so
initially
the
discussions
with
our
department,
natural
resources
are
that
they
will
turn
over
all
existing
equipment.
That
is
there
which
has
some
value
with
it.
C
There
now
has
been
for
ever
since
really
the
park
opened.
So,
though,
that
request
is
out
and
I
know,
I
think
duck,
Franklin
was
spearheading
some
of
that,
but
I
think
we
have
some
degree
of
realization
that
they're
already
almost
halfway
through
their
budget
year
this
year.
So
you
may
be
talking
July
one
next
budget
year
before
some
of
those
would
really
come
about
so
in
the
short
term
that
we
would
start
out
with
a
smaller
figure,
because
obviously
ODNR
is
continue
to
do
some.
C
That
figure
would
grow
or
you
know
the
alternative
to
it
is
that
you
don't
do
all
the
services
that
are
currently
being
done
there
if
the
city
cannot
totally
afford
it
themselves.
One
of
the
major
things
that's
really
hard
to
build
into
the
budget
is
the
local
partnerships
that
can
be
developed
with
various
entities
and
I.
You
know,
maybe
someone
from
the
committee
could
talk
a
little
bit
better
about
that,
but
like
local,
horsemen's,
Association
or
scouting,
or
other
areas
that
have
utilization
there.
C
Now
that
want
to
continue
that
utilization
were
as
being
a
local
entity
and
being
able
to
talk
to
people
locally
you're
in
a
vet
best
better
opera
position
in
the
state
of
Ohio
is
to
get
local
sponsoring
in
and
project.
One
example
of
that
could
well
be
trying
to
form
a
partnership
with
local
school
systems,
with
those
that
teach
carpentry,
either
at
the
high
school
level,
vocational
school
or
hoc
in
college,
to
help
in
the
replacement
of
picnic
tables
and
work
on
shelter
houses.
C
That's
something
probably
the
state
wouldn't
do,
but
we
would
have
the
ability
to
do
one
of
the
things
that
I
receive
since
the
last
presentation
was
an
email
from
the
director
of
the
GIS
department
in
aachen
college,
saying
all
this
would
be
a
great
lab
for
my
GIS
students.
Just
tell
us
how
we
might
be
able
to
help
and
conduct
some
of
classes,
and
we
can
GPS
anything
you
want
done
out
there.
So
I
think.
That's
just
you
know
to
touch
on
those
on
the
long
term.
C
Yes,
we
feel
that
the
endowment,
the
Friends
of
Stroud's
run
would
be
the
best
way
of
looking
at
things,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
people
out
there
that
have
graduated
from
the
university,
some
that
still
live
around
the
area
that
if
they
could
see
some
you
know
like
if
we
could
partner
with
the
Athens
Foundation,
for
example,
to
be
the
repository
of
those
funds.
Could
we
build
up
monies
over
the
years
about
to
be
and
through
endowments
other
grants
to
be
able
to
help
defray
those
costs
within
the
future?
C
I
think
a
large
thing
that
the
committee
is
really
asking
for,
or
at
least
I'm
really
firmly
supporting,
is
that
we're
at
the
stage
where
we've
studied
this
to
death?
We
have
reams
and
boxes
of
information,
I
think
most
of
its
in
Doug's
office.
What's
these
guts
and
they
won't
get
rid
of
it
yet,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
good
concepts
and
ideas
and
really
I.
Think
what's
being
asked,
is.
C
Had
put
in
together
a
three-year
plan
to
see
how
we
can
go
and
fulfill
all
of
the
things
that
the
committee
is
is
asked
for
and
then
in
doing
that
this
committee
has
volunteered
to
continue
their
function
during
that
time
period
and
to
help
accomplish
those
goals.
I
think
that
you
know
one
person
also
that's
the
worst
thing
that
can
happen
and
I
guess
with
the
city.
C
C
If
you
will
that
we
proceed
and
go
to
final
negotiations
with
ODNR
and
try
to
pursue
some
of
these
other
partnerships
more
diligently,
because
we
have
a
timetable,
then
that
will
be
developed
and
then
bring
those
final
documents
back
to
City
Council
and
have
Council
approve
those,
probably
sometime
next
year,
hopefully
early
in
the
year,
that's
sort
of
where
I
am
on
it.
But
it
would
ask
a
couple
of
our
volunteers
that
they
wish
to
make
any
other
comment
or
additional
content.
I.
E
Recently
spoke
to
Alan
Geiger
assistant
to
the
president
and
didn't
get
a
formal
commitment
for
funding,
but
I
got
a
commitment
for
that.
They
wanted
to
be.
Actually
they
wanted
to
be
involved.
One
of
the
concerns
that
dr.
Geiger
indicated
was
that
the
city
was
looking
for
a
three-year
commitment
and,
as
I
looked
at
the
at
the
budgets,
I
felt
strongly
that
we
need
to
have
a
five-year
commitment.
E
The
university
needs
to
be
involved
in
this
for
at
least
five
years,
I
think
after
talking
to
Dean,
Nieman
and
I
believe
he
talked
to
another
Dean
and
my
position
as
assistant
dean
for
recreation
and
wellness.
I
can
commit
dollars,
albeit
not
as
much
as
I'd
like,
but
I
can
commit
some
dollars
and
a
five-year
commitment,
I
think
over
time
would
allow
the
endowment
to
grow.
It
would
allow
the
concessions
to
grow.
E
It
would
allow
you
to
review
outsourcing
to
see
if
you
could
generate
more
revenue
that
way,
or
at
least
to
first
some
of
the
expenses
and
as
I
always
tell
my
students
in
class.
It's
a
balance
of
revenue
generation
versus
cost-containment
and
I.
Think
by
looking
at
something
for
five
years,
I
would
never
ever
tell
anybody
to
start
a
business
unless
they
had
a
five-year
plan.
Three-Year
plan
seems
to
me
to
be
a
bit
narrow.
E
Five-Year
commitment
seems
to
allow
you
the
time
to
develop
a
good,
sound
business
plan
and
have
a
much
better
opportunity
to
generate
the
revenue
that
you
need
to
offset
this.
There
has
to
be
a
commitment
from
the
city
and
I.
You
know
we
discussed
this
on
the
committee
a
number
of
times
that
this
is
a
recreational
pursuit.
It's
a
recreational
pursuit
for
the
people
of
the
of
the
city
of
Athens
in
Southeast,
Ohio
and
I.
E
Think
there's
a
greater
good
here,
so
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be
a
commitment
from
the
city
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
it
needs
to
be
a
giant
commitment,
but
there
needs
to
be
some
commitment
from
on
the
part
of
the
city
for
these
kind
of
activities.
I
think
it's
just
as
important
to
have
a
community
center
or
just
important
to
have
parks,
and
this
is
a
great
asset
to
this
particular
area.
F
I
think
we've
made
our
presentation
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
I,
don't
think
any
of
us
have
changed
our
minds.
I
think
that
it
still
is
a
great
opportunity
to
have
local
control
and
a
local
vision
about
2700
acres.
That
is
right
next
door
to
us.
It's
a
logical
outgrowth
of
our
desire
for
a
green
belt,
as
expressed
in
the
Comprehensive
Plan.
You
know
it
and
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
the
for
the
future.
I
think
that
our
vision
of
the
park
is
is
very
important,
that
it
is
largely
Conservancy
that
we
do
not.
F
We
don't
have
great
dreams
of
quitting
in
jetski,
slaloms
or
golf
courses
or
resorts
or
condos
or
I
mean
the
our
vision
is
and
I.
Don't
think
I
have
to
read
it
again,
but
it
is
for
something
that
is.
You
know
it
is
very
much
a
Conservancy,
its
maintaining
the
quality
of
the
environment
and
improving
on
it
and
having
that
is
something
for
our
community
to
be
proud
of,
and
for
our
future.
You
know
to
look
forward
to
and.
G
E
Don't
necessarily
there's
a
difference
between
deterioration
and
a
and
a
plan
for
less
activity
right
now.
The
park
I
don't
necessarily
know
if
I'd
call
it
deterioration,
but
certainly
it
there's
places
that
aren't
cut
as
much
as
before,
but
I
think.
If
you
have
a
plan
for
way
to
return
a
land,
do
certain
portions
of
the
land
that
will
reduce
our
costs.
You
can
do
that
in
a
thoughtful
manner.
It's
not
necessarily
a
deterioration.
Let's
say
you
say:
okay,
I!
E
E
But
people
have
told
me
that
if
you
let
the
grass
grow
up,
then
the
geese
will
go
away
because
they're
afraid
of
the
the
the
grass
that
flows
not
a
bad
thing,
but
let's
do
it
in
a
thoughtful
way,
rather
than
turning
a
blind
eye
and
let
it
deteriorate
on
its
own.
It's
a
it's
just,
a
more
thoughtful
approach
and
I
think
that's
always
something
that
you
have
to
look
at
as
you
look
down
to
the
plan.
That's
your
exit
strategy.
E
H
Okay,
if
we're
doing
a
five-year
plan,
is
it
possibly
get
more
than
one
year
commitment
of
the
state
for
that
money,
I
mean
it's
a
one-shot
deal
in
there,
I
don't
know
the
negotiations
and
how
what
the
status
of
that
was,
but
it
seems
to
you,
know,
they're,
okay,
I
guess:
I
have
a
couple
different
questions.
One
is
what
happens
if
we
fall
down
in
five
years?
Do
we
return
it
to
them?
H
If
we
can,
if
we're
doing
it
for
five
years
and
they're
leaving
by
the
backdoor,
can
we
get
a
little
bit
more
money
than
just
one
year's
you
know
payment
out
of
it
and
I,
don't
know
who
did
the
negotiation?
How
and
what
the
you
know
if
we
give
you
authorization
is.
This
is
something
that
falls
into
the
negotiation
points.
I,
guess
well,.
C
Because
we
don't
really
feel
that's
a
financial
commitment
that
the
city
should
make
for
the
almost
anytime
in
the
future,
there's
also
other
services
that
were
asking
you
know
DNR
to
continue
to
provide
such
as
stocking
of
the
lake
with
fish
consultations
that
they
can
have
with
our
people.
They
have
offered
to
help
train
and
work
with
whoever
we
hire
there
and
with
Kevin
to
go
over
things
with
respect
to
the
management
that
they
have
done
to
it.
What
is
in
existence
there?
So
there
are
the
cash
dollars?
C
H
C
C
So
you
know
I,
don't
know
that
they
can
commit
over
different
budget
years
or
not.
In
essence,
we
also
know
that
you,
as
a
legislative
body,
can
make
a
commitment,
and
the
next
legislative
body
could
say
forget
about
that.
I
mean
because
that's
the
reality,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
say
as
real
as
we
know
it
today.
We,
these
are
firm
things,
and
these
are
plans
that
we
have
and
I
think
when
Chris
was
talking.
C
C
One
of
the
other
emails
I
got
this
past
past
week
was
well
Howard
Straus
run
be
affected
if
the
state
legislature
passes
this
thing
about
drilling
for
natural
gas
in
state
parks,
if
the
city
would
take
this
over,
would
that
still
be
subject
to
that
kind
of
a
thing?
I
honestly
can't
can't
say
until
we
know
what
the
negotiated
agreement
was
with
Oh
DNR
as
to
the
transfer
of
part
to
the
city
of
Athens,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
it.
There's
lots
of
questions
tonight.
I
E
I
E
E
Off
that's
costing
to
operate
the
park
because
they're
operating
it
from
a
distance,
they're
operating
it
from
Borough,
so
one
can
only
take
the
next
logical
step.
Is
that
they're
going
to
continue
a
hands-off
approach?
If
you
look
at
where
they're
putting
their
money
they're
putting
their
money
in
the
parks
that
have
lodges?
E
F
We
don't,
we
really
don't
know
what
the
state
will
do
that
and
that's
that's
one
of
the
big,
the
big
problems.
That's
one
of
the
big
questions
is
probably
one
of
the
motivating
factors
behind
our
interest
in
this.
The
state
does
not
have
a
plan
to
even
generate
a
management
plan
for
the
park
there
never
has
been
as
far
as
we
could
discover
there.
Never.
F
J
I
Yeah
actually
I
do
have
further
course
you
didn't.
Nobody
else
is
gonna.
Ask
yeah.
The
mayor
talked
about
services
that
we're
gonna
talk
to
the
state
about
continuing.
In
two
weeks
ago.
There
was
mention
about
possibilities
at
the
late
Mike.
Sometimes
you
know
not-too-distant
future
need
to
be
dredged,
and
there
was
some
kind
of
list
that
we're
on
is
that
gonna
be
a
cost?
That's
gonna
come
along
sometime
or
is
that
done
by
the
city.
G
E
H
Another
question
you
just
brought
up
to
Jim
just
brought
up
the
dredging
part
and
I
know
there
was
discussion
of
getting
the
equipment
in
the
house
and
I
know
these
are
minor
things
but
other
infrastructure
in
terms
of
water
I
know
we.
We
don't
really
have
a
septic
system
there
per
se,
I
mean
so
what
and
I
told
you
I
would
make
a
stack
of
paper
of
information
of
this
sort.
So
how
was
the
condition
of
mostly
infrastructure
out
there
anything?
So
we
should
be
looking
at
that.
We
come
up
all
the
Seidner
I
think.
E
H
E
Recall
having
a
conversation
about
one
water
pipe
that
was
probably
in
disrepair
that
we
need
to
repair
it,
but
Wayne's
said
that
the
city
had
the
capability.
It
wouldn't
be
that
significant.
The
plain
fact
that
matters
isn't
have
a
heck
of
a
lot
of
infrastructure
there.
There
is
some
infrastructure
at
the
house:
the
equipment
is
there
and
is
probably
in
a
it's
probably
in
a
decent
set,
but
we
have
no
idea
how
long
the
capital
plan
that
we
would
have
to
put
into
place
that
to
maintain
that
equipment.
E
H
E
I,
don't
think
I'd
worry
about
the
dredging
too
much.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
that,
and
then
it
was
half
the
group
said
we
don't
ever
want
to
dredge
it.
The
other
half
of
the
group
says:
oh
yeah,
you
want
to
dredge
it,
and
you
know
really.
The
thing
to
do
is
find
out
based
on
a
set
of
parameters.
Do
you
really
want
to
dredge
it,
and
then,
where
do
you
go
to
get
a
dredge?
But
it's
not
on
their
list
a
dredge.
H
K
We've
done
is:
we've
done
a
lot
of
trail,
work
between
cells
and
Stroud's
on
the
property
the
city's
purchased,
the
last
two
or
three
years.
We
do
have
a
part-time
trail
supervisor,
who
does
the
work
on
our
trails,
which
connects
us
to
Stroud's
around
state
park?
That
position
currently
pays
around
$15,000
a
year
20
hours
a
week
around
50
weeks
a
year,
so
we
have
somebody
in
place
already
doing
some
of
that
work
with
some
of
the
lands
we
already
have
purchased
or.
K
H
Terms
of
your
other
recreation
activities,
just
seeing
about
the
same
ratio,
volunteers
versus
put
a
tour
I
guess
the
reason
for
it.
Just
if
we
acquire
this
whole
lump
and
I
know
you
have
volunteers,
doing
the
West
State
Street
stuff
here
that
I
don't
know
everything
about
the
community
center
and
all
the
other
activities.
But
you
know
what
I'm
hearing
it
sounds
like
the
wilderness
side,
you're,
getting
lots
of
volunteers,
the
baseball
side.
You
get
a
softball
side
to
getting
most
volunteers.
What
ratio
is
that?
That's
40%,
57
ratio.
I
K
K
And
baseball
fields
of
the
renovations
that
we've
done
currently
about
90%
of
that's
been
done
by
either
volunteers
or
in-kind
contractors
that
have
been
secured.
Oh
by
the
baseball
group,
the
Sandlot
grew
okay,
a
skate
park
very
similar,
most
of
the
work
that
we've
done.
There
has
been
done
by
volunteers.
Some
of
the
improvements
we've
made.
We
may
have
bought
the
materials,
but
all
the
labor
has
been
done
by
volunteer
labor
Thank.
E
To
that
all
of
it
from
what
I
understand
I
believe
all
of
the
trail
work
down
a
strategy
run
is
done
by
volunteer
efforts.
The
Horseman's
Council
has
the
the
north
part
of
the
trail
and
then
I
think
John
noose
and
the
Conservancy
has
the
south
part
of
the
trail,
the
south
part
of
the
park.
So
all
of
the
trails
right
now
are
being
maintained
by
the
volunteers,
many
of
which,
or
at
least
the
key
person,
was
on
the
task
force.
A
J
Just
want
to
say
you
could
all
go
ahead
and
see
this
trail
system.
It's
getting
better.
All
the
time
got
to
see
the
bridge
across
cucumber
tree
run.
It's
pretty
amazing
what
John,
Maus
and
the
volunteers
have
done
out
there,
but
what
I
really
wanted
to
talk
about-
and
this
relates
to
something
I'm-
a
are
able
brought
up,
is
state
bill
193
because
it's
very
relevant
and
I'm
not
sure
that
all
of
you
are
fully
aware
of
this.
J
This
is
a
Senate
bill
that
would
open
all
state
owned
public
lands
not
only
to
oil
and
gas
drilling,
but
also
logging,
and
this
includes
state
parks
and
even
the
state
nature
preserves
unbelievably
as
far
it
might
even
include
land
owned
by
state
universities,
I'm,
not
sure
if
Dysart
woods
or
the
Richards
will
fall
under
this
and
and
then
a
similar
bills
could
be
introduced
in
the
house.
This
winter
SB
193
would
create
a
new
agency
called
the
oil
gas
and
timber
leasing
board.
J
So
one
person
out
of
five
on
this
board
would
have
an
environmental
perspective
and
I
think
you
can
predict
as
well
as
I
can
what
sort
of
decision
they
would
make
when
faced
with
a
choice
between
keeping
big
trees,
because
they're
beautiful
they're
moving
them,
because
they
can
make
some
money
from
them.
So
and
then
the
other
thing
companies
would
nominate
any
land
owned
by
the
state
for
logging
or
drilling
and
public
comment
would
not
be
invited.
J
So
if
this
bill
park,
if
this
bill
passes,
I,
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
no
state
park
or
Nature
Preserve
what
could
be
considered
safe
from
the
environmental
degradation
that
comes
with
with
logging
in
particular
and
Road
building
now,
Stroud's
run
in
particular,
you're.
Probably
all
aware,
they're
gas
wells
on
the
private
lands
surrounding
Straus.
One
so,
presumably
there
is
gas
below
straightest
routes
run,
and
you
know
it's
someone
who
walks
off
trail.
A
lot
I
can
tell
you.
J
There
are
a
lot
of
stands
and
very
nice
little
trees
in
the
park
that
are
very
beautiful
and
that
probably
are
worth
some
money.
So
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
if
this
bill
passes
and
if
the
state
continues
to
own
Stroud's
run
that
they
will
be
logging
and
that
there
will
be
gas
and
oil
and
the
only
way
that
we
can
be
sure
that
doesn't
happen
is
for
the
city
to
take
over
the
deed
to
the
park,
not
just
to
manage
it
that
to
own
the
park,
and
you.
J
Further
that,
if
this
happens,
there
should
be
restrictions
on
that
deed.
That
would
prevent
any
future
city
administration
that
might
be
less
environmentally
conscious
than
this
one
from
doing
the
same
sorts
of
things
that
were
afraid,
the
state
would
do
I.
Think
that's
pretty
important.
So
you
know,
stratts
been
pointed
out.
Strods
run
was
originally
set
aside
for
recreational
and
educational
educational
use
and
that's
what
it
should
be
preserved
for
so
I
fully
support
the
task.
Force's
recommendation
and
I
urge
the
City
Council
to
to
support
it
as
well.
J
You
know
the
sooner
that
strout's
run
is
deeded
to
the
city,
the
safer,
we'll
be
it's
a
gorgeous
place.
If
you
haven't
all
spent
a
lot
of
time
out
there,
you
really
should
we're
very
fortunate
to
have
it,
and
we
should
do
everything
we
can
to
protect
it
for
our
own
enjoyment
and
for
future
generations.
Thank
you.
G
B
But
it'd
be
good
to
know
what
that
is
the
source
of
that.
Then,
when
I
see
anticipated
income,
I'm
flipping
two
pages
in
and
I'm,
seeing
additional
City
put
back
of
twenty
seven
thousand
Ohio
University,
fifty
thousand
fees,
etc.
Thirty
thousand
and
foundations
and
grants
fifty
thousand
again.
It
would
be
good
for
me
to
know
the
the
definitiveness
of
those
particular
sources.
B
It
was
and
oh-
and
please
accept
the
questions
in
the
spirit
they're
offered
is
just
wanting
to
know
it's
not
a
comment
on
the
quality
or
the
quantity
of
the
work
that
was
done
to
prepare
this
presentation,
so
the
not
that
went
spend
time
tonight
on
this
icon
sensing.
Nobody
else
has
really
any
questions
at
the
moment,
but,
as
we
proceed
with
this,
we
may
have
another
discussion
about
this
matter.
It'd
be
good
to
get
some
answers
to
those
particular
questions,
and
there
may
be
others
that
come
up.
M
N
M
B
The
only
point
of
my
original
question
was
to
proceed
with
something
like
that.
I
just
like
to
know
where
we
are.
That's
all
I
mean
I'm
not
trying
to
suggest.
We
need
to
have
everything
tied
up
with
a
bow,
but
I
just
like
to
know,
have
a
little
more
definitive
information
about
some
of
the
financial
things
in
here.
B
Recognizing
that
things
can
change
based
on
a
service
level
that
we
want
it
that
we
would
want
to
maintain
in
the
in
the
in
the
area,
but
that
does
have
an
impact
on
some
of
the
things
that
are
in
the
probe
in
the
other
part
of
the
pro
forma,
where
we
have
a
couple
of
positions
and
those
types
of
things
I
understand
that
stuff
can
change.
I.
D
C
And
we're
anticipated
in
that
first
year
that
happy
fifty
thousand
dollars
the
way
that
that
that
would
be
come
about
to
a
certain
extent.
There
is
some
dollars
that
are
unappropriated
currently
in
the
recreation
fund,
but
not
fifty
thousand
yeah.
But,
as
you
recall,
last
year
we
changed
the
income
tax
mix.
C
Things
are
a
little
bit
better
income
tax
collection,
wise,
it's
up,
four
point:
six
or
seven
percent.
So
far
this
years,
so
we
could
potentially
restore
that
1%.
We
cut
that
would
put
in
what
about
70,000
as
I
recall
back
into
the
recreation
fund,
and
that
would
really
take
care
of
year
1
and
year.
2,
because
we're
saying
you
don't
want
at
50
in
the
year
2
at
77,
the
49
5
we've
already
discussed.
C
That's
just
firm
for
one
year
of
Modi'in
are
the
existing
Park
income
is
what
the
data
there's
so
many
boat
docks
they
rent
for
so
much
money,
there's
certain
amount
of
concession
revenue,
etc.
That's
there.
Those
are
fairly
firm
in
the
first
year
and
just
the
two
pages
back
where
we're
saying
starting
in
year
two.
C
Can
we
grow
that
18
to
30,000?
From
the
standpoint
of
adding
some
events,
whether
those
be
fishing
derbies
boating,
how
can
we
you
know?
That's
what's
going
to
be
the
task
in
the
first
year
management
thing
to
say:
are
there
things
we
can
do
using
this
resource?
For
example,
John
now
sand
the
Athens
Conservancy
started
two
years
ago
with
a
hike.
C
C
And
then
we
would
try
to
seek
grants
primarily
locally,
but
it's
also
just
support
from
local
business,
whether
they
be
financial
institutions
or
bottling
companies
I
mean
anything,
but
that's
part
of
what
Doug
has
talked
about
as
we
need
the
five-year
plan
to
be
able
to
to
more
to
find
that
it
won't
have
all
the
answers
in
it.
I
think
the
major
question
that
I
that
I
really
asked
for
counsel
and
we'll
just
wanted
some
assurances
that
I
didn't
want
to
go
to
the
state,
spend
the
time
for
our
law
director
and
myself.
C
Negotiate
right
up
final
agreements
to
say
this
is
then
how
the
city
would
acquire,
Stroud's
run
and
the
state
agree
to
it
and
then
come
back
to
Council
and
say
whoa.
What's
this
we've
never
talked
about
this
I
can't
go.
You
can't
do
that
to
us
to
next
year's
council,
so
I
thought
what's
bringing
this
forward
now
I
thought
of
a
resolution
of
intent
so
that
people
will
understand
they
can
council
members
can
put
in
what
you
want
me
to
negotiate
or
find
out
more
data.
C
That's
Debbie
even
said,
and-
and
we
can
get
to
this
point
and
then
have
a
good
discussion
early
next
year,
because
I
don't
think
it'll
take
real
long
to
negotiate
with
the
state.
I
think
that's
there,
they've
been
talking
to
us
for
nine
months
intensely
and
for
about
a
year
and
a
half
prior
to
that
at
least
when
Kevin
and
I
first
started
to
meet
meet
with
them
about
partnerships.
C
We
have
an
opportunity
that
doesn't
come
along
very
often
for
a
city
our
size
to
get
ourselves
a
recreational
area
that
will
go
from
my
bases,
I
think
that
it
was
when
you
came
on
board
what
15
to
20
years
ago,
18
18.
That's
me
I
was
close
to
where
we've
acquired
over
the
last
three
years,
in
addition
to
265
acres,
and
this
would
be
an
additional
2700
acres.
That's
tremendous
growth
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
the
community
going
through
the
comprehensive
plan
of
things
says
we
want
to
protect
our
environment.
C
A
A
C
That
in
in
our
discussions
with
ODNR,
we
would
ask
for
a
free
and
clear
title
to
it
and
only
have,
in
there
some
degree
over
reverter
clause.
Should
the
city
at
some
point
in
time
not
wish
to
do
it
because
I
don't
think
what
the
state
wants
to
see
is
that
they
would
give
it
to
the
city
of
Athens
and
five
years
later
would
sell
off
five
hundred
acres.
They
don't
want
to
see
that
so
they're
gonna
have
restrictions
in
there
as
to
what
we
could
do
from
that.
From
some
standpoint.
C
We,
of
course,
would
be
wanting
restrictions
in
there
with
respectfully
this
is
totally
local
control
and
that
the
state
doesn't
tell
cities
like
they
have
before
that
you
can't
zone
for
those
satellite
dish
or
cell
phone
towers,
and
you
know
they've
been
putting
a
lot
on
us
like
here's,
just
bypassing
our
local
zoning.
We
try
to
break
this
as
much
as
we
could
that
we
control
them.
B
G
O
Have
in
my
hand,
some
excellent
study
and
I
find
that
the
person
of
cost
recovery
for
the
community
center
is
about
13.6%
and
maybe
the
and
some
of
the
other
things
are
all
I
mean
we
have
some
deficits
here
as
well
with
respect
to
what
they
would
project.
We
need
to
cover
at
least
50
from
fees
and
then
50
from
subsidy
from
the
taxpayers.
And
so
you
know
it
seems
to
me
that
we've
done
this
study.
O
Maybe
we
need
to
talk
in
terms
of
what
additional
burdens
we'll
put
on
system
that
is
already
pretty
dirty,
and
so
you
know
I
guess:
I.
Don't
really
know
that.
My
second
issue
is
a
more
prosaic
one,
and
that
is
why
constituents
have
said
to
me
that
this
is
relatively
distant
from
our
core
mission
and
I'd
like
if
we
don't,
if
we
reduce
the
income
tax
mix,
what
happens
to
public
safety
specifically
to
police
and
fire
and
I?
Guess
that
it's
a
zero-sum
game.
O
Folks,
and
that's
where
I
think
the
problems
lie,
and
so
it's
all
it's
good
to
have
the
plans
and
the
ideas
and
I'm
all
for
saving.
All
of
our
view.
Sheds
I'm,
especially
fond
of
one
that
we
may
be
losing,
but
I
do
think
that
there
are
some
other
issues
with
respect
to
the
the
income
strategy
that
we
have
not
discussed.
P
Yeah
Carol,
just
in
brief
comment
about
the
Maximus
report,
along
with
the
figures
that
are
given
in
that
report.
It
also
refers
to
market
industry
and
recreation
departments
in
general
parks
and
recreation
and
the
percentage
return
expected
in
those
and
and
what
across
the
industry
is
typical,
and
our
report
is
not
particularly
out
of
line
with
that
standard.
There
may
be
some
areas
of
adjustment,
but
in
general,
it's
in
line
with
the
industry
standard
and
that.
O
M
C
What
we
don't
know
I
mean
right
now
we
have
the
chief
of
parks
for
the
state
of
Ohio,
saying
I'm
willing
to
enter
into
this.
I've
talked
to
do
it
with
direct
respect.
The
governor
has
been
informed
of
it.
No
one's
objected
to
it,
put
together
the
plan
and
proposal.
I,
don't
know
how
many
things
could
change
in
that
line
of
command.
I
have
no
idea.
That's
why
I
made
the
statement
a
couple
weeks
ago.
We
need
to
do
this
as
quickly
is,
as
we
feel
comfortable
doing
it.
C
L
Hi,
my
name
is
Robert
somnium
20
Briarwood
in
Athens
I
just
wanted
to
speak
as
a
taxpayer.
Here,
a
twelvemonth,
the
resident
I
should
say
12
months
of
the
year
resident
that
I'm
concerned
from
a
tax
level
and
in
terms
of
proceeding
I'm
not
comfortable,
knowing
that
down
the
road
after
the
five
years
after
the
various
commitments
fall
away,
that
the
taxpayers
here
in
Athens
won't
be
saddled
with
additional
costs
for
something
that
when
so
many
people
are
complaining
that
we
don't
have
enough
fire
people.
We
don't
have
enough
police
officers,
we're
worried
about
infrastructure.
L
For
other
things,
you're
going
to
ask
us
pay
for
more
taxes
for
again
for
fire
for
police,
eventually
for
other
things
that
we
may
not
be
aware
of
right
now
and
when
we
see
this
is
just
a
tunnel
vision,
one
project,
it
may
sound
very
appealing
and
very
attractive,
but
I
think
when
you
take
it
into
the
overall
scheme
of
things.
What
we
project
that
we
may
have
to
spend
money
on
in
upcoming
years,
then
I
have
a
lot
of
concern
about
that.
L
L
B
P
K
K
Along
with
that,
the
Sandlot
League
also
wants
to
put
warning
tracks
along
the
three
fields
they've
recently
renovated.
They
would
be
buying
their
own
warning,
track
dirt
separate
from
us,
but
be
nice
to
do
that
project
together,
because
we
get
a
better
price
on
the
dirt
we
need
to
buy.
So
the
six
grand
from
donations
is
actually
that
money
has
been
donated
to
the
city.
Some
already
expended
some
not
and
the
other
line
item
I'd
like
to
be
transferred
us
out
of
a
new
equipment.
K
We
have
some
fairly
major
improvements
to
do
the
pool
with
our
electrical
system.
We
got
through
the
summer
without
doing
that.
The
city
electricity
recommends
that
we
do
not
go
into
next
year
with
the
same
electrical
system,
which
is
really
our
main
feed
for
our
pump
in
our
filtration
system.
He
wants
to
change
that
over
to
a
safer
system.
We
had
some
problems
last
year
with
our
pump
actually
went
out
one
day,
because
our
legal
system
really
isn't
sufficient.
K
I
was
just
gonna,
buy
that
out
of
new
equipment,
but
since
it's
a
repair
of
an
existing
mechanical
system,
I
have
to
use
repair
maintenance.
Money
is
to
do
that
and
also
some
other
things
we're
putting
a
water
line
in
at
West,
8th,
Street,
Park
I
purchased,
most
of
the
equipment,
but
I've
been
told
recently
by
the
water
department
who's
doing
the
labor
that
they
need
to
buy
a
few
more
parts
to
complete
that
water
line
through
the
park.
K
So
I
also
can't
use
new
equipment
money
for
that,
because
it's
part
of
an
existing
system,
so
I
need
to
use
monies
out
of
repair
maintenance.
I.
Don't
really
want
to
wait
till
next
year
to
do
this,
because
the
electrical
system,
if
it
can
be
done
now
why
the
electrician
is
available
in
the
water
line
itself,
needs
to
be
done
as
they're
doing
the
work
currently
in
the
same
thing
with
a
warning
track.
That's
work
we'd
like
to
do
yet
this
year.
K
P
Subs,
in
summary,
it's
7226
out
of
the
wreck
new
equipment,
just
to
put
it
into
operating
funds
for
repair
and
maintenance
in
the
other
$6,000
to
be
appropriated
to
rec
for
from
the
donations
for
improvements
in
various
places.
So
that's
along
in
this
short
I've
had
any
questions
or
comments
about
any
of
it.
It's
pretty
straightforward!
P
F
B
Right
now,
financing
personnel.
There
are
several
items
on
the
agenda,
as
you
recall,
we're
in
the
midst
of
a
series
of
meetings
that
we
hope
will
culminate
in
a
in
a
budget
coming
out
of
this
process,
hopefully
to
be
read
on
first
on
December,
the
5th.
So
as
part
of
that
one
agenda
item
we
had
was
review
a
set
of
contracts
that
we
enter
into
for
service
one
of
them.
One
significant
one
is
with
the
chamber:
Athens
Area,
Chamber
of
Commerce,
and
so
Jennifer
Simon
is
here
to
visit
with
us
about
that
particular
contract
thing.
G
Q
First
of
all,
let
me
start
out
by
saying
and
I
think
most
of
you
have
seen
in
the
media
and
have
obviously
heard
me
out
on
the
street.
I
love
my
job,
I
love
everything
that
we
do
in
in
the
chamber
of
commerce,
but
I
love
everything
that
I
have
seen
over
the
last
year
in
Athens
related
to
creativity,
innovation,
the
the
fact
that
we
have
a
strong
and
growing
healthcare
industry,
strong
and
growing
alternative
energy
industry
as
well
as
and
one
one
of
the
reasons
why
I'm
giving
you
these
industries
is
I'll.
Q
Tell
you
in
a
second
it's
especially
foods
industry
and
I
can
go
on
and
on
and
on.
We've
done
a
series
of
programs
over
the
last
I'd
say
six
months
or
woup
Studio
B
we've
done
some
interviews
with
folks
in
specific
industries
talking
about
what
is
good
and
Athens,
and
there
is
a
ton
of
things
that
are
good
and
they're
doing
well,
and
so
many
that
were
you
know,
to
be
strategic
and
which
ones
we
brag
about.
Q
Q
Debbie
and
I
had
had
conversations
so
you'll
have
a
second
draft
scope
of
work,
and
in
addition
to
that,
there
is
what
I
would
call
a
partial
report
of
accomplishment,
since
we
generally
do
our
report
to
you
in
January
each
year,
but
I
did
want
to
fill
you
in
has
happened
so
far,
but
again
back
to
why
you
know
why
the
chamber
loves
doing
what
we
do
this
year.
We
have
worked
to
keep
diagnostic
hybrids
here
in
Athens.
County
we've
helped
them
expand.
Q
Q
Today,
that's
of
course,
one
of
my
the
best
things
that
I
love
about
this
community
is
a
number
of
companies
that
stay
here
and
then
add
1
to
100
jobs
at
a
time
and
what
kind
of
strength
that
brings
we've
also
a
set,
thus
assisted
a
company
in
Nelsonville,
that's
called
ed
map.
They
have
grown
from
13
employees
three
years
ago
to
nearly
80
this
this
past
year.
Again,
it's
been
done
with
a
number
of
partnerships.
I
flew
here
from
a
snack
they've
worked
extremely
hard
in
that
facility.
Q
All
of
us
have
been
putting
in
I
would
what
I
would
call
a
team
effort
making
that
happen?
We
we
have
retained
a
business
that
was
on
Baker
Road.
It's
called
Jim
codings.
They
are
now
in
our
industrial
park
that
the
Port
Authority
owns
and
operates.
They
had
five
people
when
we
started
talking
with
them
and
we'll
be
up
to
thirty
within
three
years
and
they
think
they're
up
to
ten
or
twelve
now
and
they've
only
been
in
in
the
facility
for
three
months,
so
we're
working
hard
for
them.
Q
They're
part
of
what's
called
a
manufacturing
business
incubator
they're
only
taking
up
half
the
building
and
pulling
other
manufacturing
businesses
into
that
building
as
well
one
of
the
most
exciting
things
I
can
tell
you
today,
which
is
his
also
one
of
the
most
confidential
things
so
obvious
as
I
guess,
briefed
and
ona
is
much
close
to
my
chest
as
I
can
we're
working
to
attract
a
company
from
Austin
Texas?
That's
a
research
and
development
that
has
been
done,
but
the
product
is
ready
to
be
manufactured
and
they
want
to
manufactured
here
in
in
Athens
Ohio.
Q
They
make
what
I
would
call
a
medical
device
or
what
they
would
call
a
medical
device.
They
would
employ
over
600
people
within
ten
years
and
would
likely
be
placed
on
an
interim
basis
if
we
can
make
all
of
this
happen
in
the
McVie
facility.
So
it's
something
that
obviously
is
in
the
works.
We've
worked
very
hard
on
and
continue
to
be
committed
to,
and,
and
while
we
know
there,
there
are
hurdles
to
jump
before
we
get
to
that
point.
Q
It's
something
that
I
feel
extremely
exciting
and
can
really
help
to
replace,
obviously,
the
360
jobs
that
will
be
lost
at
the
McVie
facility.
We've
also
worked
to
retain
a
company
specialty
books
in
the
post-industrial
park.
It's
one
that
was
on
the
brink
of
quite
honestly,
leaving
our
community.
We
worked
with
them
through
the
port
authority
to
stabilize
their
lease
to
help
them
sort
of
work
through
issues
with
their
cash
flow
statement
and
see
what
we
might
be
able
to
do
to
to
keep
them
here
and
help
them
again
grow
and
within
their
employment.
Q
So
it's
only
a
small
sampling
really
of
what
we
have
done
over
the
the
past.
While,
since
we're
here
in
April
I
guess
you
know
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
what
we're
doing
again,
I
would
refer
you
to
the
partial
report
of
accomplishments.
You
know
I'll
go
through
those.
If
you
want
that,
I
would
I'm
sure,
given
time
you
would
let
you
I
was
allow
you
to
ask
me
questions
related
that,
rather
than
to
belabor,
it
and
I've
also
again
included
the
proposed
scope
of
work.
Q
B
B
M
I
would
just
very
briefly
say
that
the
the
list
that
I
worked
on
after
we
had
a
chance
to
meet
I
tried
to
go
through
and
pull
out
the
things
that
looked
more
like
member
services.
Out
of
that
scope
of
work
and
put
in
some
things
that
would
be
specific
projects
that
would
help
promote
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
that
would
those
are
really
the
main
differences
between
this
overall
proposal
that
Jennifer
brought
and
the
draft
that
I've
pulled
together.
Just.
B
Perceived
and
review
to
scope
of
work
because
for
those
who
are
what
in
the
audience
and
those
watching
out
in
TV
land,
you
know
this
contract
is
a
calendar
year
contract,
so
we're
up
on
its
conclusion.
This
is
a
multiple
year.
Contract
interrupts
its
conclusion
here
and
we're
poised
to
do
some
discussion
of
renewing
and
scope,
and
that's
why
the
scope
of
work
is
before
us,
because
this
is
the
point
where
you
begin
saying
all
right.
B
What
do
you
want
to
have
done?
How
are
we
gonna
measure
it?
You
know
what
are
the
accountability
issues
that
are
associated
with
any
scope
of
work?
We
haven't
had
a
series
of
reports
and
that
sort
of
thing
about
progress
and
those
would
continue,
but
tonight
we're
kind
of
focusing
on
the
scope.
So
please
proceed.
Okay,.
Q
I
would
say
you
know,
as
part
of
our
contract,
with
both
the
city
and
the
county.
Obviously
we'll
maintain
our
enterprise
zone
management
responsibilities,
you're
working
on
new
agreements,
doing
the
ANA
reports
hosting
the
tax
increment
or
excuse
me,
tax
incentive,
Review,
Council
and
then
making
that
those
reports,
the
City
Council
on
the
open
and
green
agreements
that
are
out
there.
Q
As
you
guys,
probably
recall
from
last
year,
I
think
we
only
have
two
that
are
open
in
the
county
and
one
is
in
the
city
of
Athens.
So
you
know
right
now
we
be
looking
at
new
agreements.
The
majority
of
our
work-
and
you
know,
as
I,
was
started
going
through
our
list
of
things
to
brag
about
is
in
the
retention
and
expansion
component,
and
we've
worked
with
a
number
of
counties:
number
technology
companies
to
form
a
regional
Technology
Council,
where
we
will
be
working
on
or
advocating
for
state
funding
for
the
council
itself.
Q
Q
We
would
continue
to
expand,
maintain
expand
our
shop,
Athens
County
first
frequently
in
forever
campaign,
and
you
will
be
seeing
our
obviously
our
shop,
Athens
County
first
holiday
campaign
coming
up
very
shortly.
If
you
haven't
already
seen
or
heard
of
some
of
what
we're
doing
there,
it's
something
that
we
know
is
extremely
important
and
when
you
go
back
and
look
at
our
accomplishments,
it's
something
that
we
we
feel
very
proud
about.
We
are
working
on
building
amazing,
Athens,
Ohio
brand
one
of
the
companies.
Q
Last
year
we
had
120
close
to
125
thousand
dollars
that
went
through
the
gift
certificate
program.
Again,
it's
a
basically
100
or
so
retailers,
restaurants,
etc,
who
participate
in
the
program
and
all
in
the
Athens
area.
People
buy
there
are
certificates
and
then
use
those
certificates
at
those
particular
businesses,
entrepreneurial
development
and
small
business
outreach
again
continuing.
We
have
an
in
entrepreneurship
development
group.
We
meet
monthly
on
monthly
basis.
Leslie
Schuyler
with
a
set
is
one
of
our
members.
Q
We
have
found
that
our
collaboration
cuts
down
on
a
ton
of
overlap
and
allows
even
more
services
to
be
provided
to
entrepreneurs
that
come
to
us
continue
to
work
with
the
higher
University
own
commercialization
of
technology.
We
work
well
with
the
high
university
Innovation
Center,
where
you
know
some
of
these
businesses
are
being
incubated,
feel
that's
important.
Incubate
them
keep
them
here,
help
them
grow
and
that's
really
what
what
we
want
to
be
able
to
do.
Q
A
ways
to
go,
of
course,
I
always
want
a
hundred
percent,
so
one
of
our
programs
are
probably
most
proud
of.
Is
our
workers
comp
program.
Last
year
we
saved
members
$180,000
and
in
2005
we
saved
our
members
over
two
hundred
seventy
thousand,
so
that
collectively
did
a
pretty
good
job.
Some
companies
saved.
You
know
twenty
thousand
some
saved
five
thousand
depending
on
the
size
of
your
company.
It
could
mean
a
big
big
difference
to
your
cash
flow
redevelopment,
Community
Development.
Obviously
the
McBee
facility,
soon
to
be
empty
facility,
will
be
priority.
Q
We
continue
to
work
on
leads
that
we
have
for
that
facility
and
work
to
by
those
and
make
that
happen.
The
other
is
market
empty
buildings
throughout
the
city,
we've
started
that
on
our
website
now
we've
upgraded
our
website.
We
told
you
that
we
would
have
2
million
hits
by
the
end
of
this
year
when
our
during
our
report
earlier
in
the
year-
and
we
are
up
to
1.75
million
since
April.
So
we
don't,
we
didn't,
have
the
measurement
from
January
to
April,
so
we're
in
pretty
good
shape
to
meet
that
goal.
Q
I
know
I've,
talked
to
Mariel,
grim
and
and
others
about
the
importance
of
having
something
like
that.
I
think
it's
something
that
would
really
add
to
to
what
we
do
as
a
service
to
you
again.
Our
annual
reporting
would
be
done
by
I,
would
say:
January
31st
of
each
year
outline
what
we
said.
We
would
do
what
we
have
done.
You
know:
where
are
we
on
an
economic
socio-economic
scale
best,
as
we
can?
Some
of
that
data,
as
you
all
know,
can
is
only
update
it
on
a
10-year
basis,
but
a
lot
of
it.
Q
There
is,
you
know
we
can
provide
you
with
an
economic
profile
and
then
talk
about
priorities
for
the
next
year
when
I
go
over
to
Debbie's
handout,
I,
think
that
is
e,
and
that's
this
single
piece.
Obviously,
the
enterprise
zone
management
component.
It
works
forward.
The
working
with
the
city
on
the
comprehensive
plan,
implementation,
I
think
absolutely
it's
critical
for
us
to
really
take
a
look
and
see
how
things
fit
into
that.
Q
The
community
piece
we
serve
on
the
clean
citizen
or
clean
initiative.
It's
driven
by
existence
of
acids
and
clean
citizens
I
think
that's
pretty
good
and
also
work
on
other
programs
to
promote
quality
of
life
in
Athens.
We
are
part
of
the
strout's
run
task
force,
for
example,
the
Halloween
party
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
we
can
do,
but
obviously
be
willing
to
serve
in
a
capacity
to
assist
in
any
way
possible.
Other
community
programs.
Q
G
Q
In
again,
entrepreneurial
pieces
is
huge
for
us.
We
talked
about
the
redevelopment
and
then
our
reporting
I
would
just
add
on
what
I
had
put
it's
exactly.
What
debbie
has
is,
do
the
monthly
staff
reports
we're
getting
better
at
that
every
once
in
a
while
slips
my
mind
to
send
it,
but
you
know
giving
you
a
sort
of
a
monthly
report
on
what
our
activities
are.
Quarterly
financial
reports
I
assume
that
that
would
be
for
us
to
show
that,
if
you're
giving
us
a
certain
amount,
I
would
save
the
fifty
five.
Q
G
B
M
Just
add
that
I
think
a
lot
of
the
other
things
that
are
in
the
scope
of
work
that
you
presented
our
important
things
that
the
chamber
does
and
I
think
that
you
described
a
lot
of
the
work.
That's
the
overall
mission
of
the
chamber,
I
just
tried
to
pull
back
some
of
the
things
that
looked
more
to
me
like
member
services
or
there's
one
specifically
that
looks
to
me
like
a
partnership
with
the
University,
and
so
you
know,
I
don't
mean
any
criticism
of
those
other
things.
I
just
tried
to
really
zero
in
on.
M
If
the
city's
making
an
investment,
how
are
the
the
public
dollars
being
used
that
really
help
accomplish
goals
that
citizens
have
spelled
out
in
the
comprehensive
plan?
And
so
you
know
I
think
that
the
work
that
you
have
spelled
out
in
there
about
increasing
your
membership
and
reaching
out
to
smaller
businesses,
and
all
of
that
is
really
important.
But
it
may
not
necessarily
be
what
the
thing
that
benefits
the
city.
Q
M
And
I
think
that
in
conversations
with
Jim
sands,
there,
the
divisions
that
used
to
exist
that
you've
made
some
structural
changes
and
in
some
ways
that
does
make
that
those
divisions
I
think
the
city's
money
was
supposed
to
be
spent
on
the
economic
development
work
and
not
on
the
member
services.
So
I
think
that
this
kind
of
continues
a
tradition
that
has
and
how
the
economic
development
is
used
and.
Q
H
Actually,
I
wasn't
sure,
he'll
decide
two
phrases.
One
thing
I'd
be
interested
in
maybe
and
scope
work
is
occasionally
we're
running
across.
We
sit
here
and
chat
about
policy
and
stuff
like
that.
Concerning
businesses
in
particular,
less
conversation
I
do
with
you,
I
think
was
talking
to
vending
stuff
and
and
I.
Don't
know
how
many
vendors
actually
belonged
to
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
these
type
of
things
I
know.
H
Sometimes
you
you
tell
us
a
policy
concept
and
what
the
impact
that
was
would
be,
but
one
thing
I'd
like
to
see
with
us
is
sometimes:
if
we
can
come
to
you
and
ask
you
saying
what
what
if
and
I
don't
know
where
that
sits
in
is
this
scope
of
work
I
mean,
for
instance,
what
if
we
change
the
bending
systems
or
what?
If
we
we
raise
the
minimum
wage,
which
was
discussed
in
last
campaign.
Things
of
this
nature
I
know
some
of
them.
H
You
probably
feel
strongly
about,
and
it
doesn't
mean
we
take
your
advice,
but
the
ideas
of
as
a
lifetime
civil
servant
so
to
speak.
I
have
very
little
concept
of
what
businesses
constraints
are
many
times
and
I
would
be
interested
in
that
I
guess
really
what
I'm
asking
is
not
so
much
for
you
to
do
polling,
but
they
sometimes
give
us
that
we
can
come
to
you
for
information,
I,
guess,
okay
and.
H
You
know,
for
instance,
one
of
the
other
discussions
at
one
point
was,
you
know:
I,
don't
leasing
right-of-ways,
for
instance,
whether
it's
telephone
poles
or
newspaper
stands.
You
know,
what's
the
impact
of
that
I
know,
you
have
a
contingency
would
be
very
concerned
about
another
one.
So
I
don't
care
less,
but
you
probably
see
enough
of
this
stuff
out
there
to
say:
okay.
This
is
what
happens
when
you
when
you,
you
know
toggle
this
switch
here.
What
happens
on
the
other
end.
P
What
I
hear
in
what?
What
Paul
is
saying
is
that
we
need
more
frequent
and
real
honest
communication
between
the
US
and
the
chamber
not
necessarily
connected
to
your
contract
or
whatever,
but
just
for
the
good
of
the
the
city
in
terms
of
getting
the
perspective
of
more
than
just
the
the
seven
of
us
we
need
to
hear
and
I
know.
Sometimes
after
the
fact
I'll
hear
something
about.
Oh
my
gosh,
why
did
you
all
do
such
a
thing
and
I'm
like
what?
What
was
your
take
on
it?
Q
G
G
B
Then
we
can
load
this
agenda
up
with
a
lot
of
stuff
and
we'll
end
up
being
here
a
long
time
and
the
quality
of
discussion
might
lag.
No,
that's
what
I'm
hearing
is
just
acknowledge
that
we'd
like
to
have
the
conversation
continue
about
matters
of
related
economic
development,
as
it
has
done.
You
know,
as
it
sort
of
happened
without
that
being
right,
scope
of
work
and
it'll
just
continue
as.
D
M
Would
just
say
I
think
as
Jennifer
was
going
through
the
overall
list,
the
section
on
community
reinvestment
areas
and
tips
was.
This
is
an
addition
to
what
we
have
seen
that
very
first
meeting
well
I
think
we
could
bring
that
in
just
as
is
the
way
we
did
with
the
enterprise
enterprise
zone
management
and
the
other
thing,
as
you
were
going
through.
That
list
that
we
hadn't
talked
about
before
that
makes
sense,
is
working
on
the
guide
to
the
development
process.
I
N
Q
B
Q
One
thing
that
I
didn't
talk
about,
but
I
one
thing:
you're
gonna
get
not
clear
economic
development
funds,
but
for
office
there
are
membership
dues
and
other
means
is
that
we're
working
with
Athens
foundation
to
create
I
think
I've
talked
to
you
about
this.
W
leadership,
Athens
we're
gonna
work
hard
to
sort
of
get
people
that
are
mid-level
management,
folks
or
people
that
are
new
to
the
community
and
start
on
an
annual
having
a
series
of
sort
classes.
Q
Where
you
know
five
to
ten
people
would
participate,
and
you
know
get
a
primer,
obviously
on
government
and
how
government
works
in
Athens,
Athens
County,
how
the
media
works
and
in
the
county
and
how
to
be
a
part
of
that
they
understand
the
paper.
But
it's
those
kinds
of
things.
A
lot
of
communities
do
this,
and
so
the
APUs
Foundation
is
taking
that
initiative
and
we're
gonna
run
with
it
together.
So
that
is
something
else
that
we
develop.
I
that
I
feel
pretty
strongly
about
that
work.
H
H
You
think
your
scope
covers
how
to
help
them
set.
Something
like
that
up
or
is
that
more
of
a
tourism
thing?
And
how
often
do
you
overlap
with
tourism
and
how
often
do
overlap
I
guess,
I'm
asking
how
often
you
overlap
with
some
of
these
other
activities
outside
the
membership
I
mean
here's.
Somebody
gives
up
some
kind
of
group
that
wants
to
sit
there
and
start
rolling
along.
Do
they
get
assistance
from
you
or
do
they
get
system
for
that
Tourism
Bureau
a
little.
Q
I
think
that
that
probably
gets
to
that
advisory
role
or,
however,
you
want
to
be.
If
we
can,
we
can
be
part
of
an
advisory
committee.
We
can
help
leading
the
advisory
committee.
How
and
the
best
is
for
you.
We
can
help
that
if
there's
a
particular
organization,
that's
set
up,
obviously
we'd
be
more
than
willing
to
serve
and
be
part
of
that,
and
then
to
get
to
your
question
related
to
tourism.
Q
We
work
extremely
well
with
Convention
and
Visitors
Bureau
with
Sally
dunker.
We
work
with
her
on
a
number.
Obviously
in
promotions
and
events
and
Sally
does
a
great
job.
You
know.
Obviously
her
job
is
to
look
outside
of
Athens
County
and
bring
folks
in
and
that's
part
of
our
job
as
well,
as
you
know,
bring
those
tourists
in.
But
you
know
we
do
work
with
her
on
different
events
and
things
and
then
the
last
part
I
guess
is
outside
our
members.
You
know
members
being
able
to
assist
other
organizations
and
what
they're
doing
a
thing.
M
Q
G
B
Other
comments,
questions
are
we
headed
towards
maybe
a
meeting
of
the
minds
and
said:
we've
got
two
different
drafts
of
the
scope
of
work.
Would
it
be
possible
for
that
to
come
together
and
reach
some
sort
of
finality
so
that
we
could
all
review
it
and
then
don't
you
know
either
move
ahead
or
not
move
ahead
based
on
what
it
is.
I'm,
not
hearing
people,
people
are
adding
things
to
the
scope.
I,
don't
hear
people
saying
anything
about
well
gee.
Why
is
that
in
there
or
get
rid
of
that
thing?
M
Have
something
every
do
we
can
work
together
and
I'm
in
this
out?
Okay
and
I
wonder
this
is
just
a
question:
I,
don't
you
know
lean
one
way
strongly
or
the
other
since
we're
putting
a
lot
more
specificity
into
the
contract
than
has
existed
before
whether
people
want
to
consider
a
one-year
contract
and
evaluate
how
that's
working
and
whether
it's
been
a
fair
amount
of
work
or
whether
we
load
it
up
a
bunch
of
stuff?
That's
more
than
you
anticipated,
or
you
know,
I'm.
B
Q
B
Q
A
figure
of
speech
I
should
remember
them
as
you're
talking
about
Stroud's
run
and,
having
that
longer
term
financing
picture
as
we're
planning.
Obviously
our
budgets
and,
as
you
all
are
you
know
it's
it's
better
to
have
that
longer
term
commitment
and
knowing
but
I
think
if
we
have
that
annual
sort
of
review-
and
there
are
we
going
in
the
direction
we
said
we
were
going
to
go,
that
would
would
be
appropriate.
I
might
be
somewhat
uncomfortable
with
a
you
know,
an
annual
contract
I
think
again
it
may
be
difficult,
but
I
like
day
I.
Q
B
O
One
last
thing
that
you're
trying
to
get
out
of
my
brain
was
that
the
neighborhood
associations
were
interested
in
having
a
neighborhood
section
on
websites,
and
so
that
might
be
a
way
to
talk
not
to
skin
the
cat
that
didn't
solve
the
problem.
That
Dale
talked
about
her
someone
mentioned
about
neighborhoods
and
explaining
those
to
the
outsider.
You
know
sort
of
a
scoop
on
doesn't
Anna
group
for
this
house,
a
group
of
whatever
so.
Q
H
O
H
B
J
B
E
C
C
We
are
also
in
the
situation
where,
since
it's
been
in
effect
for
five
years
in
both
all
both
of
those
ranges,
we
have
some
people
that
were
topped
out
and
that
gets
difficult
because
they
already
and
getting
a
cost
of
living
or
just
to
get
the
same
amount
of
money.
This
were
last
year,
but,
to
a
certain
extent
some
sometimes
you
have
you
have
to
do
that,
because
you
can't
just
continue
to
raise
someone's
salary,
all
those
expenses
forever
without
worry
of
retraining
or
some
degree
of
mobility
in
that
job.
C
So
what
I
did
was
I
went
through
and
for
the
first
five
oranges
looked
at
a
$2,000
shift
from
the
standpoint
about
increasing
the
minimum
increasing
the
max
for
those
employees
that
were
are
in
the
first
steps
up
to
the
hidden
point.
That
would
mean
minimum
two
thousand
dollar
increase
in
what
they
were
getting
for.
Those
above
the
salary
pool.
As
last
year
was
three
percent.
Everybody
just
moved
to
three
percent.
C
It
would
eliminate
all,
but
one
topped
out
as
an
employee
within
those
inches
cost-wise
citywide
cost-
and
this
includes
all
increases
to
fringe
benefits
like
such
as
a
retirement
workers,
compensation,
etcetera.
It
was
about
seventy
seven
thousand
five
hundred
dollars,
citywide
of
which
forty
three
thousand
one
hundred
and
seven
dollars
was
in
the
general
fund
to
the
city.
The
others
are
in
our
tradition,
streets,
recreation,
community
center,
water,
sewer
departments
in
fairly
state.
You
know
so
no
other
department
was
hit
any
more
than
about
ten
thousand.
C
That
was
the
community
center
beat
and
reason
for
that
is
that
they
have
the
newest
employees
because
they
opened
five
years
ago,
just
as
this
was
coming
into
effect,
and
we
had
a
lot
of
quite
a
few
new
employees
were
hired
in
at
the
beginning
rates.
So
almost
all
of
these
Christians
that
get
this
two
thousand
dollar
adjustment,
so
it
hits
that
department
just
a
little
more
heavy
than
some
of
the
others,
but
in
overall
I
think
it's
manageable
was
the
growth
that
we've
had
within
the
income
tax.
C
Again,
it
may
tighten
up
the
sewer
fund
just
a
little
bit
more,
you
know,
and
what
I'm
finally
working
on
is
is
the
open
positions
that
I
had
highlighted
in
the
budget.
There
are
a
couple
of
those
I
would
still
consider
to
hold
open,
but
majority
of
them
we're
trying
to
fill,
for
example,
I
think
we're
down
for
five
police
officers,
one
that
the
military
leave
and
for
through
attrition
we're
in
the
process
I
think
by
the
beginning
of
this
budget
year,
we'll
probably
a
little
filled.
C
There
will
be
some
changes
like
that
overall
I
feel
confident
recommending
to
council
that
we
go
ahead
and
make
this
change,
because
I
think
otherwise,
we've
just
been
stagnant
too
long,
especially
in
those
loads,
but
I
will
make
the
if
everything
continues.
Hopefully,
as
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
has
predicted
here
is
continue
to
have
some
growth,
then
I
think
maybe
next
year
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
the
upper
branches.
O
C
C
Now,
you're
up
to
where
right
now,
it's
at
1560
per
hour,
so
a
96
cents
an
hour
on
that
is
a
lower
percentage.
Obviously
can
do
it
either
way
I
would
just
go
with
where
they
are
in
place,
but
some
people
are
going.
We
have
to
just
from
the
standpoint
of
arrogance
we
don't
have
it.
We
have
to
from
a
standpoint
of
you,
know,
leave
them
at
step,
one
I
guess,
but.
C
Calculated
it
with
the
with
the
step
raises
in
the
night,
because
what
what
I
was
trying
to
do
was
say:
okay,
if
we
just
keep
the
current
system
in
place.
This
is
where
everybody
moves
to,
and
this
is
what
our
cost
is.
So,
if
we
add
the
two
thousand,
this
is
what
our
cost
is
and
that's
what
I
came
up
with.
I
have
to
go
back
then
and
redo
the
three
percent,
or
that
it
varies
on
how
much
it
is
on
each
step.
C
C
At
11,
I
want
to
say
about
1140
an
hour,
then
that's
starting
out
general
Secretary's
data,
entry
operator,
recreation,
worker,
1,
etc.
Those
are
the
ones
that
it's
getting
more
and
more
competitive
to
try
to
attract
people.
To
those
same
thing
like
even
in
range
to
our
code.
Officers
are
or
is
that
range
3.
C
C
C
O
C
D
C
Can't
to
having
over
30
years,
but
it
skewers
a
little
bit
where
we
are,
we
don't
have
as
it's
just
like
I
don't
take
on
Kevin
sees
he
hasn't
talked
out
yet
he's
been
with
the
city
18
years
and
you
were
in
Parks
and
Recreation
for
another.
He
has
25
total
years
and
he's
within
five
years
of
potential
retirement
you're
getting
towards
the
top
of
your
your
ranges
when
you
get
to
those.
C
C
O
C
C
O
C
H
B
Other
other
comments,
I'll
just
I'll-
add
to
this-
that
one
of
the
one
of
the
issues
I
think
that's
at
play
here
also
is
the
fact
that
we
have
in
the
lower
end
of
the
pay
scale.
We
still
prescribed
steps
for
people.
Yes,
we're
probably
trying
to
make
sure
people
don't
end
up
in
between
steps
right
right.
So.
B
It
out
of
money,
if
you
go
to
an
open
range
for
the
whole
skit
whole
scale
and
then
prescribe
you,
could
prescribe
percentage
increases
at
certain
anniversary
dates,
but
not
put
them
into
the
scale
that
way.
If
you
wanted
to
adjust
the
scale
again,
you
could
do
that,
but
you
wouldn't
have
people
between
steps,
because
it
wouldn't
be
steps
just
something
to
think
about.
For
next
time,
I
tried
to
get
that
in
earlier.
I
couldn't
get
it
in
so
I
figured
I'd
I'm.
O
B
No
other
comments
on
them
on
the
adjustment
to
the
non-union
y'all
know
well,
what's
been
recommended,
okay
raised
pool
three
percent.
Is
that
that's
what
a
working
number?
Okay,
that's
a
different
now
this
is
different.
This
is
the
race.
This
is
in
the
open
end
where
we
would
allocate
an
array
spool
of
three
percent
which
could
be
differentially
applied
based
on
evaluations,
etc.
Okay,
everybody
cool
with
that
yeah.
O
B
We
prescribe
a
certain
number
of
steps
up
to
the
midpoint
of
the
range
after
you're
at
after
you
past
the
midpoint
of
the
range
for
whatever
job.
It
is
then
you're
in
this
open
period,
open
range
where
there's
a
raised
pool
that
is
applied,
and
we
just
the
mayor
is
recommended
that
it
would
be
three
percent
right.
C
A
B
Other
questions,
alright
we're
gonna,
keep
moving,
that's
non-union,
pay
scale
and
staffing.
There's
a
couple
miscellaneous
items.
As
the
auditor
moves
forward
this,
this
one
is
quick.
Every
year
we
usually
renew
the
contract
for
soil
and
water
conservation.
That's
that
runs
on
a
calendar
year
looks
like
it's
gonna,
be
the
same
amount
that
it
was
last
year,
twelve
thousand
dollars,
but
to
get
this
done
by
the
end
of
the
year.
We
need
to
move
this
forward
said:
okay,
miscellaneous
yeah
and
then
the
auditor
is
gonna
talk
about
miscellaneous
item,
but
it
won't
be
a
surprise.
R
Right
we
have
brought
this
up
about
home
occupation
and
contractor
licensing
registration.
The
subject
came
up
this
summer,
this
past
summer
of
registering
contractors
and
other
individually
owned
businesses
with
the
influx
of
lawn
care
workers
that
were
seen
around
town.
Carol
Patterson
approached
me
about
this
and
gave
me
a
list
of
businesses
that
had
been
spotted
and
I
researched
him
and
found
out
that
quite
a
few
people
run
independent
operations
in
Athens,
but
are
not
paying
their
share
of
income
taxes
to
the
city.
R
R
Then
Dale
Tam
key
contacted
me
about
this
issue,
but
with
a
broader
perspective
of
how
these
business
operations
affect
Athens
by
registering
home
occupation
and
licensing
contractors,
we
would
not
only
be
able
to
facilitate
the
collection
of
income
taxes
from
these
businesses,
as
we
do
from
all
other
businesses,
but
the
city
would
also
be
able
to
provide
some
degree
of
professionalism,
including
bonding
and
insurance.
The
city
would
not
be
saying
that
these
businesses
were
particularly
qualified
just
that
they
met
a
certain
minimum
standard
that
all
legitimate
business
me.
R
We
would
also
have
a
way
of
tracking
them.
I
contacted
Steve
Pearson
about
this
issue,
since
the
registration
and
licensing
would
go
through
his
office
and
he's
very
supportive
of
these
measures.
It
has
come
up
before
I.
Think
in
1997.
I
have
some
record
of
that
from
the
Cote
office.
Steve
did
some
research
and
found
out
that
many
cities
all
over
the
country
have
a
home
occupation
and
or
contractor
licensing
ordinances.
R
Several
states
such
as
New,
Jersey,
Iowa
and
Ohio
felt
it
important
enough
to
enact
statewide
codes
for
contractors,
and
we
have
samples
of
all
of
these.
I
probably
have
at
least
15
samples
of
ordinances
and
registration
forms,
fees,
scales
and
everything
else.
So
we've
downloaded,
Steve
and
I
would
like
to
amend
the
city
code
by
passing,
separate
ordinances,
one
for
contractors
and
one
for
home
occupations.
These
could
both
be
in
title
11
under
business
regulations,
plumbers
and
electricians
are
under
the
building
code,
section,
which
is
title
31.
R
The
zoning
code
should
also
be
adjusted
to
include
home
occupations
and
the
building
code
to
include
contractors.
Steve
has
done
work
on
this
as
far
as
wording,
and
we
have.
We
have
all
this
information
that
we
could
pass
on
to
you.
One
other
thing
I'd
like
to
add,
though,
is
while
looking
at
our
present
code.
We
found
several
sections
in
title
11
business
regulations
that
we
felt
should
be
deleted
or
rearranged.
R
There
were
at
least
three
things
in
there
that
Steve
said
in
his
term
in
office.
He
has
never
ever
had
anyone
come
to
him
to
be
licensed
or
regulated
about
one
being
auctioning
of
jewelry
anyway.
Steve
can
make
the
recommendations
about
fees
and
I
thought,
especially
since
you're
looking
at
some
of
the
fees,
considering
changing
other
fees
that
this
would
be
a
good
time
for
this
anyway.
R
I
I'm
definitely
interested
in
pursuing
it.
I
mentioned
timelines.
I
would
see
it
as
a
fairly
long
term
commitment
of
Council
to
to
work
through
it.
So
I'm
not
sure.
Do
we
I'm.
I
That
we
need
you
to
come
back
by
next
committee
meeting
with
any
information.
I,
don't
know
whether
we
need
to
take
action
now.
Just
say:
yeah
we'd
like
to
pursue
this
and
then,
as
you
and
Steve
work
out
the
details,
we
we
do
what
was
necessary
it
just
it
was
probably
just
a
slip
of
the
tongue.
You
said
that
registration
and
licensing
the
city
would
provide
bonding
and
insurance.
It
wouldn't
provide
sure.
R
I
G
M
R
Is
they
wouldn't
be
included
at
all?
You
know
single
operations.
We
could
set
a
limit.
You
know
at
Palin,
but
we
already
have
on
our
records
a
minimum
of
12
days
of
working
in
the
city
that
you
have
to
work
before
you
came
on
tax
anyway,
so
we
could
use
that
we
could
set
a
minimum
amount
of
revenue
income,
there's
a
lot
of
ways
to
go
about
this,
we're
so
that
you
could
eliminate
people
like
that.
R
There's
making
a
little
bit
on
the
side,
but
I
think
I'm
glad
that
one
is
interested
in
pursuing
this
I
think
the
more
I
talk
to
people
about
this
I
find
out
more
and
more
people
who
are
operating
businesses
out
of
their
homes
and
making
a
living
wage
at
it.
Everything
from
travel
agents
to
computer
repairs,
investments,
counting
consultants
and
I
think
you'd
be
surprised
when
it
comes
right
down
to
the
people
that
do
this
out
of
their
homes,
with
computers
available
who
are
under
our
microscope.
Here.
G
P
Carol
I
know
this
is
a
conversation.
Leslie,
shalour
and
I
have
had
several
times
about
someone
struggling
to
start
a
new
business
legally
compared
to
someone
who
just
kind
of
doesn't
start
something
up
on
their
own.
The
frustration
of
the
ones
that
try
to
do
it
the
legal
way
and
pay
workers,
compensation
and-
and
you
know,
take
some
of
the
the
legal
steps
to
have
a
business
and
how
problematic
it
is
to
convince
people
to
do
it.
The
right
way.
P
My
one
sort
of
comment
of
warning
is
that
just
right,
Kathy
alluded
to
a
minute
ago.
This
isn't
something
that
you
you
put
into
effect
and
suddenly
everybody
signs
up.
It's
a
long,
slow
process
and
it's
a
self-regulating
process
more
than
anything
else.
But
it
would
immediately
be
some
level
of
improvement
because
people
might
start
asking
for
that
where
what
is
your
city
license?
Or
you
know
that
sort
of
thing
and
then
it
would
begin
to
self-regulate.
But
it's
not
an
overnight
thing.
It's
a
long,
slow
process.
R
You
know
the
names
given
to
me
this
summer
to
check
we're.
Not
you
know,
high
school
kids
mowing
somebody's
lawn
that
somebody
went
out
and
asked
our
name
and
phone
number
these.
You
know
people
have
vehicles,
trailers,
equipment
and
are
actually
operating
a
full-time
business
and
what
they're
doing,
and
so
it
is
self-regulating.
It's
like
a
lot
of
other
things
that
the
city
does.
You
know
its
complaint
based,
we
find
out
about
it.
R
Any
publicity
that
we
have
and
the
more
people
who
know
about
it
when
they
are
starting
up
businesses,
the
more
people
will
find
out
and
and
will
do
it
I,
don't
think
everybody
who
doesn't
do
it
is
really
trying
to
get
away
with
something
they
just
you
know
maybe
started
out
small
and
don't
realize
that
you
know
at
some
point.
They
need
to
come
forward
and.
C
You'd
have
to
put
it
totally
out
of
some
sort.
I
think
the
point
is:
is
that
we're
trying
to
assure
a
licensing
to
our
citizens
who
are
purchasing
services,
that
if
this
person
is
hurt
on
the
job,
falls
off
your
roof
cleaning
up
the
gutters
they've
got
workers
compensation
you
never
going
to
have
a
personal
suit.
Coming
back
against
you
that
there
is
some
degree
of
assurance
that
this
is
reputable.
C
O
O
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
I
mean
because
I
think
I
don't
know
if
you've
talked
the
law
director,
but
the
last
time
we
were
almost
on
this
road
I
remember
he
was
we
had
some
real
strong
opinions
on
it
and
it
just
dropped
at
that
point
in
time.
That
way,
I
think
that's
that's
a
key
point,
because
I
don't
think
we're
licensing
them
I
think
we
have
a
list
that
says
these
are
people
and
we
can
use
the
list
to
collect
income
tax
good
deal
right.
R
P
Just
the
points
that
the
mayor
was
making
concerning
consumer
protection
and
one
of
the
biggest
ones
is
just
if
someone
comes
and
starts
a
roof
on
your
house
and
disappears
off
the
face
of
the
earth.
There's
some
level
of
following
up
on
that.
Finding
the
person-
and
we
certainly
we
all-
know
people
that
have
had
contract
work
done,
then
the
person's
left
town
and
they
couldn't
find
them.
But.
F
B
G
B
Know
if
you
can
convince
someone
that
you
can
do
the
job
you're
hired
so
yeah
I
mean
it
is
it's
a
minimal
set
of
standards?
It
sounds
like
there's
some
interest
in
pursuing
this
there's,
not
an
interest
in
expediting
the
pursuit
of
this.
So
if
we
have
time
can
we
put
it
on
a
future
agenda
to
see
a
little
more
language,
maybe
about
what
we're
talking
about?
Does
that
make
sense?
Okay,
thank
you.
Miscellaneous
item
Nancy.
O
Defeating
every
pair
of
water,
one
self,
which
is
an
annual
expenditure
from
the
water
fund
mayor
last
time,
I
had
people
tell
me
that
they
were
concerned
that
the
approach
that
we
were
using
was
out-of-date
and
everybody's,
an
expert
in
this
town.
If
you
noticed
that
but
anyway,
so
they
said
that
you
know
we
could
do
it
for
less.
O
G
O
H
O
G
C
So
what
we
had
to
do
is
we
had
to
make
Kathy
had
to
make
a
change
in
revenue
projections
and
I
made.
You
know,
change
an
expenditure
of
projections
and
I've
estimated
150,000.
Then,
when
she
pulled
it
all
off
were
6,000
off
back
in
the
sewer
fund.
So
since
the
sewer
fund,
instead
of
having
150
I,
think
it
really
had
about
one
hundred
sixty
three
thousand
in
it.
As
of
the
end
of
June,
the
easiest
way
to
solve
this
is
just
increased.
C
B
G
M
And
I
talked
on
Friday
about
wanting
to
start
moving
that
through,
so
that
we
can
get
that
in
place
for
next
year,
and
it's
from
the
meetings
that
we
had
it
seemed
like
people
were
in
agreement
with
most
of
those
recommendations
from
Maximus
with
the
change
on
the
Zoning
Board.
Various
requests
to
have
that
be
$100
and
the
revocable
license
request.
Did
we
say
50?
Those
are
the
only
two
that
I
remember
people
having.
I
G
M
G
N
O
G
G
E
G
B
B
P
My
question
kind
of
goes
back
to
the
beginning
of
this
meeting,
with
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
the
contract
and
the
tourism
contract
how
to
proceed
with
those
so
that
we
get
those
done
by
the
end
of
the
year
as
well.
Is
there
any
feeling
that
we
should
have
more
of
a
scope
of
service
from
tourism
as
well,
or
you
know,
want
to
just
look
at
the
contract
the
way
it
was?
P
O
O
O
O
O
M
Carol
I'm
not
sure
what
that
contract
looks
like
the
the
conduct
we
previously
had
with
the
chamber
of
didn't,
really
specify
it
work
it
just
copies,
so
it
really
needed
some
more.
You
know
just
to
do
a
better
job
of
making
it
something
that
we
can
measure
and
that
they
can
report
on
and
all
of
that,
so
all
right
I'm
not
sure
what
this
existing
women.
G
P
O
B
O
G
O
R
Quickly,
you
asked
me
for
revenue
spreadsheets
couple
weeks
ago.
Sorry
and.
G
B
R
H
I
Mining
development-
really
there
is
just
a
miscellaneous
item
there.
With
regards
to
the
proposed
Retirement
Center
development
on
Stinson
Avenue,
you
should
have
received
in
your
mailbox
copies
of
two
letters,
one
from
Gary
hunter
to
John
Burns,
the
high
University
Law
Director,
stating
Kerry
hunters
opinion
that
City
Council
should
not
pass
any
ordinances
until
a
lease
agreement
has
is
entered
into
between
the
developer
and
the
university
for
this
piece
of
property.
I
O
I
With
those
two
statements,
I'm
going
to
say
that
I'm
planning
to
introduce
our
proposed
ordinance
for
first
reading
next
Monday
I
will
probably
talk
to
the
law
director
about
adding
some
kind
of
another
whereas
or
another
condition
that
this
would
apply
if
the
dese
has
entered
into
or
some
tie
to
a
lease
agreement
so
that
it
in
without
that
agreement,
and
we
would
table
it
until
something
did
happen
or
the
end
of
the
year
came.
Can.
G
P
O
I
O
O
I
B
Be
ample
time
to
with
enough
leave
with
enough
lead
time,
because
that
sounds
I
mean
that's.
The
issue
is
that
people
I
mean
that's
the
issue
of
pulling
it
off
it,
and
the
third
is
that
nobody
knows
when
the
pull
offs
gonna
happen.
So
you
know
at
this
point
at
least
we'd
say:
there's
a
meeting,
here's
the
agenda.
Everybody
knows
it's
happening.
O
B
O
G
B
G
M
This
was
just
an
observation.
The
Herald
Square
Planned
Unit
development
site
has
some
fill
on
it.
That
looks
like
it's
asphalt
and
I
wondered
if
the
wellhead
protection
area
administrator
could
check
that
out
and
see.
What's
going
on,
there
sure
I
was
down
at
the
the
ceremony
for
the
Visiting
Nurses
Association,
their
their
community
garden
and
veterans
garden.
Dedication,
which
was
a
beautiful
ceremony
and
I,
noticed
that
as
I
drove
past.