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From YouTube: City Council Meeting - 11/18/19
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City of Austin, Minnesota
A
B
C
B
Derek
Ellis
is
our
k-9
handler
every
other
year,
starting
with
chief
Philip.
When
I
arrived,
we
do
try
to
send
our
handlers
to
the
canine
national
competition.
We've
had
great
success.
The
state
of
Minnesota
is
one
of
the
finest
areas
for
producing
k-9
handlers
in
the
country.
Derek's,
father
Jeff
won
five
national
titles,
Matt
Holton,
our
lieutenant
that
retired
earlier
this
year
won
a
national
title
and
placed
second
twice.
So
we've
got
a
lot
going
for
our
program
and
Derek's
really
kept
it
going.
B
What
we
asked
them
to
do
what
we
asked
our
dogs
who
do
out
in
the
field,
especially
when
it
comes
to
apprehension,
work,
both
locating
people
and
and
the
blight
work
that
they
do
so
that
type
of
training
and
the
competitive
environment
really
has
a
lot
of
carryover
and
what
we're
asking
our
dogs
are
doing
the
field,
and
that
has
a
lot
of
impact
on
when
we
do
use
them
that
they
do
that
they
do
what
we
want
them
to
do.
They
apprehend
in
a
way
that
we
want.
B
C
C
E
Like
chief
make--can
said,
Rudy
and
I
went
down
to
Florida
for
the
national
USPSA
k9
patrol
dog
competition
did
very
well
this
year,
improved
from
the
previous
time
we
went
down,
which
is
as
important
and
represented
Austin
and
Minnesota.
Well,
yeah.
I
guess,
that's
all
I
got
unless
anybody's
got
some
specific
questions.
C
E
Yep
yep
and
you
know
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
these.
You
know
it's
a
competition,
but
it's
also
a
certification,
so
Rudy's
now
nationally
certified
as
a
United
States
police
k-9.
So
you
know
that's
that's
part
of
the
certification
and
that
all
just
kind
of
trickles
down
from
you
know
the
kind
of
certification
he
does
well
there.
He
also
does
well
on
the
street
so.
C
E
C
A
F
F
C
H
Thank
You
mayor
members
from
new
horizon
Holmes
be
at
1309
18th
Drive
northeast.
The
estimated
value
is
$325,000,
interesting,
like
if
I
was
reading
the
application
right,
twelve
hundred
and
four
square
feet
on
the
first
floor
and
then
1204
might
be
unfinished
on
the
lower
level,
so
I
think
just
shows
the
cost
of
new
construction.
You
know
before
you
know
it
you're
up
to
that
325
from
the
estimated
application.
Otherwise
application
is
in
conformance
with
our
adopted
policy.
This
is
a
public
hearing.
Council
action
is
requested,
console.
C
I
C
H
Thank
you,
mayor
members,
this
one
as
well.
It
doesn't
have
a
specified
number
on
that
wrist,
but
it's
on
10th
place
northeast
estimated
value
of
600
to
700
thousand
from
the
application.
Obviously,
that's
a
pretty
significant
home,
but
from
the
application
looks
like
this
is
a
relocation,
possibly
Boston,
probably
important
to
note
that
they
could
build
an
accounting
outside
of
Mauer
nice
to
have
that
kind
of
tax
based
edition
in
the
community.
It
is
in
conformance
with
our
adopted
policy
council
action
is
requested
to
approve
the
abatement,
and
this
is
a
public
hearing
council.
C
J
C
K
C
L
We
received
a
grant
to
purchase
new
election
machines
in
2018.
We
purchased
them,
but
we
weren't
able
to
use
them
in
a
school
district
election
because
we
didn't
have
enough
time
to
certify
them
to
the
state.
So
we
will
be
using
them
for
all
three
elections
next
year,
which
would
be
the
presidential
primary
March,
the
regular
primary
in
August
and
then
the
November
general
election.
So
we
have
to
provide
information
to
the
public
about
these
per
statute.
L
C
L
These
are
all
of
the
liquor
license:
Reza
holders
that
we're
going
to
renew
for
2020.
These
are
not
the
on
sales,
besides
the
clubs
and
the
wines,
but
these
would
be
the
off
sales
and
the
breweries.
So
we
have
to
get
those
up
to
this
date
earlier
than
the
rest
of
our
licenses,
so
we
would
request
you
approve
them.
K
H
You
mayor
and
members
similar
to
the
Creekside
Business
Park
we'd
like
to
transfer
this
property
to
the
Port
Authority.
This
was
part
of
the
K
smq
project
and
a
remnant
from
that
to
the
east
of
the
project
area.
We'd
like
to
transfer
that
to
the
Port
Authority
has
been
our
arm
for
economic
development.
Other
ways
answer
any
questions.
Otherwise
we
need
a
resolution
for
approval.
That's.
C
A
C
C
C
M
It
mr.
butts:
okay,
I'm,
Jay,
Lutz
I
live
at
12:09,
20th
Street
northeast
here
in
Austin.
That
puts
me
in
the
Third
Ward
and
I'm.
Also
a
member
of
the
City
Planning
Commission
and
I
want
to
be
clear,
I'm,
not
here
on
behalf
of
the
in
any
capacity
for
the
Planning
Commission
area
and
the
other
members
I'm
here
just
on
my
own
I
think
I
think
there's
two
points
I'd
like
to
make
about
this
thing.
M
The
first
one
is
is:
is
that
thing
we
call
the
comprehensive
plan
that
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
a
lot
of
money
and
a
lot
of
work
by
a
lot
of
people
over
a
number
of
years
to
put
together,
and
that
is
meant
for
situations
exactly
like
this,
to
use
as
a
guidance
document
to
help
us
do
orderly,
organized
sound
planning
for
development
and
Zoning.
If
we're
just
going
to
disregard
that,
then
it's
really
not
worth
the
paper.
It's
printed
on.
M
M
In
this
particular
case,
it
always
turns
into
a
discussion
at
the
Planning
Commission.
It
did
at
your
previous
meeting.
It
did
probably
well
the
night
it'll
turn
into
his
gushing
about
a
car
lot,
a
used-car
lot,
because
that's
the
intended
use
the
reality
is.
The
used-car
lot
has
zero
bearing
on
this
issue,
it's
wholly
and
totally
irrelevant
to
it
you're
not
making
a
decision
on
whether
or
not
to
approve
a
used-car
lot.
M
It's
not
a
motion
to
rezone
the
property
from
our
to
be
for
a
car
lot.
That
has
nothing
to
do
it.
You
can't
even
make
that
determination
if
you
want
to
you,
can't
rezone
to
use
as
a
car
lot.
Even
if
this
is
a
b2
business
district,
this
owner
cannot
put
a
used
car
light
there
until
he
first
secures
a
conditional
use
permit
that
permit
does
not
come
from
the
council.
It
comes
from
the
Planning
Commission
and,
unlike
this
zoning
request,
that's
a
recommendation.
M
The
council
that
can
just
be
dismissed
that
will
be
an
approval
by
the
Commission,
the
same
commission
over
nine
years.
They're,
not
three
weeks
ago,
voted
six
to
nothing
unanimously
to
decline.
This
rezoning
request,
so
it's
it's
not
about
a
used-car
lot.
What
you're,
actually
going
to
vote
on
is
really
whether
to
allow
this
property
to
be
used
for
any
any
of
the
listed
uses
under
the
b2
zoning
district.
There
is
over
14
different
categories.
Just
for
general
use.
There's
another
half
a
dozen
for
conditional
uses.
M
Well,
the
general
uses
aren't
even
specific
uses
their
categories,
so
they're,
there's
literally
unimaginable
different
combinations
or
possibilities
of
what
this
property
can
be
used
for.
What
your,
what
your
voting
I
is
given
this
property
owner,
whoever
it
is
a
blank
check
to
do
any
number
of
things
with
this
property.
M
Now,
if
this
property
was
in
different
circumstances,
if
it's
a
doubt
alone
more
or
was
near
other
businesses
or
was
some
way
situated,
that
any
of
these
possible
uses
that
you
can
cover,
wouldn't
be
a
detrimental
effect
to
the
surrounding
property
or,
more
importantly,
any
citizens
that
live
nearby
that'd
be
a
totally
different
story.
But
that's
not
the
case
here.
This
property
is
right
in.
M
Now
we
have
other
areas
in
the
city
that
are
like
that
and
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
about
them:
Oakland,
Avenue,
West,
first
Avenue,
Southwest,
they're
a
mess
and
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
to
go
back
and
fix
it,
because
a
lot
of
that
was
done
before
we
even
had
formal
zoning
ordinances.
Certainly
before
we
had
a
comprehensive
plan.
This
property
is
different
because
that
non-conforming
use
expired.
So
you
have
the
opportunity,
and
now,
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
you
have
a
tool
that
you
can
fix
this.
F
You
any
questions
sure
now
were
you
on
the
Planning
Commission
back
in
the
70s,
when
this
area
was
zoned,
No,
ok,
so
we
don't
know
I'm
sure
they
struggled
just
as
much
then
as
now
to
zone
it.
Residential.
Considering,
if
that
property
has
always
been
a
business,
is
always
sat
on
it
right,
they
could
have
just
as
easily
taken
that
piece
of
property
back
then
and
zoned
it
business
or
done
something
else.
I'm
sure.
M
F
N
Mean
to
answer
the
question
I
think
you're,
asking
at
any
point
between
the
70's
and
today,
the
long
term
kind
of
land-use
plan.
That's
in
the
comprehensive
plan
could
have
been
adjusted
to
say
that
portions
of
14th
Street
Northwest
should
be
encouraged
to
develop
as
commercial
from
the
70s
to
today.
N
The
zoning
ordinance
and
the
long-term
use
map
and
the
comprehensive
map
have
indicated
that
that
area
14th
should
be
encouraged
to
develop
as
residential
the
zoning
ordinance
and
the
long
term
use
plan
map
and
the
comprehensive
plan
have
gone
through
intensive
reviews,
every
5
or
10
years
from
the
70s
to
now.
Without
a
change
in
that
public
policy.
But.
N
Is
true
that
a
decision
could
be
made
looking
out
into
the
future
that
this
area
is
appropriate
for
commercial
and
that
a
broader
swath
of
14th
she
could
be
identified
on
that
use
future
land
use
map
as
future
hopes
for
commercial
and
then,
as
properties,
ask
for
rezoning.
They
would
be
rezone
to
fit
that
long-term
plan.
All
of
those
are
possibilities
and
all
of
those
are
within
the
control
of
Planning
Commission
and
the
council
to
effectuate.
Ok,
they're
not
in
place
today
for.
F
M
M
Well,
what
I
would
do
with
it's
irrelevant
as
well?
You
can't
sit
and
read
minds
and
imagine
what's
going
to
happen
to
this
property?
That's
not
the
role.
What's
before
you
is
whether
or
not
to
open
it.
Up
to
all
these
other
uses,
we
will
open
it
now.
Would
I
want
to
live
on
that
property
and
have
a
all-night,
fast-food
restaurant,
where
they
drive
up
window
24
hours
outside
my
bedroom
window?
No
I,
don't
know!
If
that
answers
your
question,
but
would.
F
C
K
F
K
K
M
You
have
is
a
difference
in
perspective,
whether
or
not
you
think
it's
appropriate
as
council
members
as
elected
officials,
to
take
the
perspective
of
the
but
of
the
property
owner
and
look
at
it
for
him
standpoint
of
what's
best
or
whether
you
should
take
the
perspective
of
these
residents.
Citizens.
H
M
J
O
O
The
particular
rezone
that
he
is
asking
for
to
allow
a
car
dealership
requires
a
50-foot
setback,
so
he's
going
to
have
to
get
a
which
would
be
a
decision
by
the
Planning
Council
and
then
well
a
recommendation
from
the
Planning
Council,
my
own
decision
by
Council,
and
then
he
will
also
have
to
get
a
conditional
use
permit.
Since
the
last
meeting
I've
also
gotten
a
petition
from
mr.
Elmer's,
who
has
the
property
to
the
west,
and
he
had
indicated,
he
would
also
rezone
his
property
as
mr.
Sorenson.
O
C
D
Lutz
I
think
you
hit
on
the
head
and
it
was
very
thoughtful
presentation
you
gave
I
I
told
mr.
Sorenson
when
he
called
me
on
the
phone
that
I'm
here
almost
12
years,
I've
never
gone
against
a
recommendation
coming
out
of
a
Planning
Commission.
That's
what
you're
tasked
with
that's
what
you
have
done.
Your
due
diligence
around
this
particular
issue,
but
others
that
came
before
us
have
never
voted
against.
I,
don't
think
the
council
has
in
general,
I
can't
think
of
a
time
where
we've
gone
against
ours,
the
Planning
Commission.
D
This
one
is
exactly
right:
it's
not
a
car
lot.
It
could
be
anything
when
you
open
it
up.
Also
I
put
a
lot
of
stock
and,
as
mentioned
last
meeting
on
that
comprehensive
plan
that
you
mentioned,
there's
a
lot
of
work
from
a
lot
of
volunteer
community
members
that
go
into
that,
and
it's
not
lost
on
me
that
mr.
Byron
is
has
sent
another
document
looking
for
options
that
he
wants
to
be
sure.
Council
has
some
good
clarity
and
what
are
our
options?
D
It's
not
lost
on
me
because
it
tells
me
we're
making
the
wrong
decision,
and
this
is
for
this-
is
for
the
greater
good
of
the
community
not
just
today,
but
down
the
road.
Also
I
mentioned
as
last
meeting
down
down
on
14th
Street
intersection
of
18th,
Avenue
and
14th
Street
sits
a
large
parcel
land,
zoned
industrial
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
deal
with
when
that
homeowner
comes
and
says,
yeah,
it's
industrial,
but
you
know
what
you
did
it
for
the
personal
property.
D
B
D
N
Sure
so
I
sent
the
the
memorandum
as
part
of
your
backup
material,
because
I
had
the
sense,
rightly
or
wrongly,
last
meeting
that
there
was
an
impression
that
absent
rezoning
to
a
b2
district.
There
were
no
other
options
for
this
property
and
I'm.
Not
the
the
purpose
and
point
of
the
memo
was
not
to
tell
you
that
there
are
other
superior
options.
It
was
really
just
a
map
out
all
of
the
various
options
that
could
be
made
for
the
zoning
classification
of
this
property.
It
could
be
left
in
its
r2
designation,
which
is
really
today.
N
So
the
options
that
I
laid
out
were
what
we
call
our
Oh,
which,
in
our
lexicon
sort
of
means
residential
office,
and
it
is
specifically
designed
to
allow
office
uses
next
door
to
and
in
and
amongst
residential
properties,
the
types
of
businesses
that
it
allows,
our
lower
scale
or
smaller
scale,
businesses.
It
is
a
zoning
classification
that
is
deemed
to
work
well,
when
you
put
residential
next
to
more
commercial
uses,
it
does
not
allow
a
car
dealership.
N
It
does
allow
some
of
the
other
business
uses
that
have
been
located
on
this
property
at
other
time,
like
plumbing
offices
and
and
businesses,
like
that,
the
second
option
would
be
to
rezone
to
be
one
rather
than
be
two
and
the
difference
between
that
is
b2
is
a
large-scale
commercial
zoning
classification
in
its
stated
purpose.
It
talks
about
shopping
malls
and
more
regional,
wide
attraction
for
customers
and
in
commerce.
N
So
if
you
think
about
a
b2,
you're
thinking
about
18th
Avenue,
if
you
think
about
b1,
which
is
designated
as
neighborhood
business,
you
are
looking
for
smaller
scale,
businesses
that
tend
to
cater
to
the
needs
of
the
nearby
residences,
so
the
convenience
store
or
the
walk
to
bakery
or
the
you
know.
The
smaller
scale,
businesses
that
again
are
more
conducive
to
a
neighborhood
setting.
N
N
N
Yeah
the
PUD
plan
follow
us
in
many
ways.
Some
of
the
same
structures
that,
like
a
plat
map,
follow
so
the
developer
presents
an
initial
plan
of
how
they
are
gonna,
lay
everything
out,
and
then
it
goes
through
departmental
reviews
and
comments
about
how
that
might
impact
neighbors,
how
it
might
impact
traffic
patterns,
how
it
might
impact
other
things
and
a
plan
is
developed.
It's
a
conditional
use
permit
on
steroids.
Sort
of
it
goes
through
a
lot
more
review
process
than
a.
N
N
Your
own
unique
zoning
rules
for
that
piece
of
property,
so
Baroque
Manor
had
some
setbacks
for
intense
residential
being
next
to
single-family
homes
and
those
were
overlooked
because
that's
part
of
the
PUD,
just
the
setbacks
were
established
to
be
what
they
were.
Things
like
screening
and
fencing
and
lighting
and
other
things
were
adjusted
to
minimize
those
impacts.
But
if
it
goes
through
those
processes
and
gets
approval,
then
that
locks
that,
in
as
a
permanent
restriction
on
that
process,.
N
C
What
we
need
to
do
is
vote
this
down
tonight
and
then
explore
the
PUD
I.
Think
it's
a
better
fit
for
you
guys,
actually
you're,
just
as
good
a
fit,
and
yet
it
protects
us
and
everybody
else
from
something
else
going
in
there,
but
certainly
wouldn't
stop
you
from
putting
in
it.
You
wouldn't
need
the
variance,
I,
think
there's
some
advantages
for
you
and
it's
actually
so
yeah.
O
We
typically
have
used
PU
DS
for
large
parcels
where
we've
had
pretty
large
developments,
so
the
original
Fox
Point
project
that
failed
was
a
PUD
and
then
the
only
one
that
I've
been
involved
went
and
besides
the
one
that
mr.
Byron
mentioned,
is
the
proposed
hotel
near
Tori's.
That
project
has
not
moved
forward
the.
O
The
the
investment
into
the
property
and
that
process
is
a
quite
substantial
and
usually
we're
talking
about
a
a
benefit
to
the
commute.
You
know
a
large
benefit
to
the
community,
so
my
perspective
from
my
perspective,
that's
not
the
first
thing
that
I
would
look
at
with
regard
to
rezoning
a
property,
most
property
or
most
property
owners
would
typically
be
able
to
comply
with
whatever
rezoning
district
that
they
are
required
to
comply
with.
O
C
F
I,
don't
think
there's
any
other
option
that
really
allows
a
caller
car
dealership
without
in
getting
the
variance
in
the
C
you
pee
without
rezoning
it.
Unless
we
do
the
PUD
right
am
I
correct
on
that,
that's
better,
so
I
guess,
if
counsel
could
live
with
the
PUD.
If
it
came
back
to
us,
I
guess
I
could
I
could
forward
against
this
tonight.
F
But
if
that
doesn't
happen,
you
know
I
guess
we're
losing
out
an
opportunity
for
this
gentleman
to
get
into
business,
but
I
guess
I
would
like
to
see
him
be
able
to
do
what
he
wants
to
do
there.
If
people
are
worried
about
other
things
than
this
restriction,
I
mean
with
the
PUD.
You
can
obviously
limit
it
to
no
fast
food
restaurants.
Moving
in
there.
K
Yeah
actually
think
the
PUD
is
is
the
tool
for
this,
because
there's
obviously
a
sentiment
in
the
community
that
it's
been
a
Carla.
We
wanted
to
stay
a
car
lot,
it's
a
lots
of
good
for
that.
It's
not
good
for
a
lot
of
other
stuff,
that's
the
sentiment
that
we
have
and
then
we
you
know-
and
this
is
the
tool
that
can
get
us
there-
every
other
tool
that
doesn't
fit
as
well.
We
have
to
be
making
some
exceptions,
variances
and
so
forth.
So
yeah.
H
N
So
it
was
originally
a
plumbing
business.
There
was
a
request
to
change
the
non-conforming
use
to
a
car
dealership
that
was
granted.
There
was
no
application
to
switch
from
a
car
dealership,
non-conforming
use
to
a
different
cart
to
a
different
non-conforming
use,
and
those
switches
don't
happen
automatically
so
on
a
very
technical
and
legal
basis.
N
C
I
And
this
property
that
we're
talking
about
to
me
do
people
remember
what
that
property
looked
like
25
years
ago,
when
I
got
that
property,
he
had
a
gap
run
down
to
stall
garage.
He
had
a
building
on
the
end
with
a
mechanic's
shop
in
there
when
I
purchased,
that
there
was
actually
a
mechanic's
shop
in
the
north
end
of
the
plumbing
building
and
that
building
was
dilapidated
and
so
I
tore
that
building
down
I
rebuilt
the
other
building
up
and
I.
Think
I
really
changed.
I
That
area
tone
I've
had
a
lot
of
comments
that
people
said
my
god.
You
fix
that
place
up
me.
It
looked
like
something
down
there,
so
it
wasn't
always
a
nice
clean
operation
and,
as
you
know,
I'd
been
front
of
the
city
a
couple
other
times
to
zone
that
commercial
and
was
denied
the
request
to
rezone
it
and
actually
I
went
down
to
the
zoning
planning
on
about
September,
15th
and
I
talked
to
Holly
and
I
said.
Do
you
know
of
anybody
coming
in
to
try
rezone
that
Carla
right
now
and
she
looked
it
up?
I
I
Curtis
Sorensen
and
then
I
never
heard
nothing.
All
of
a
sudden
I
got
a
letter
mail
that
you
know
this
property
is
up
for
rezoning.
So
the
very
next
day
I
called
Holly
and
went
down,
talked
to
her
and
I
said
what
happened
here.
How
come
I
wasn't
notified?
I
said:
I
want
to
be
on
the
same
dock
at
the
same
day
and
she
oh
I'm,
really
sorry,
it
happened.
So
fast
he
come
in
on
September
30th
and
they
printed
on
the
paper
on
October
3rd.
She
said
we
didn't
have
time
to
get
you
in.
I
So
she
said
you
school.
The
meetings
see
what
happens
so
I
went
to
the
first
meeting
here
and
when
it
was
turned
down
six
six
to
nothing.
The
next
day
I
went
down
in
her
office
in
the
morning.
I
said:
what
do
you
think's
next
here,
because
I
was
going
to
do
an
application
for
the
rezoning
of
mine,
she's
I
think
you
should
maybe
not
waste
your
money
and
wait
and
see
what
happens
at
the
next
meeting.
I
So
I
did
and
then
at
the
next
meeting
things
changed
so
then
I
went
back
down
and
did
my
application
with
her
on
it,
and
so
that's
because,
like
I
see
and
that
strips
so
if
you
took
that
North
End
that
only
be
90
feet,
that's
good
not
going
to
be
life
and
death.
Anybody
and,
on
my
part,
all
I'd
want
to
display
area
for
three
to
six
vehicles.
That's
it
and
there's
nothing
across
the
road
from
it.
It's
all
bear
fur,
maybe
a
thousand
feet
on
the
north
side.
I
You
know
it's
just
the
trees
that
you're
looking
at,
but
and
now,
and
not
only
that
the
city
has
to
look
at
the
fact
that
there's
other
are
two
properties
in
this
city
that
were
on
the
city
maps,
as
are
true
that,
within
the
last
ten
years,
got
changed
from
an
hour
to
use
to
be
to
commercial
and
there's,
there's
like
three
of
them
or
forum.
They
know
of
the
fact
that
were
changed
so
isn't
like
things
get
changed
known
then,
because
they
do.
I
You
know
because,
for
example,
the
one
business
on
4th
Street
Northwest
was
an
hour
to
property
and
they
added
probably
couple
hundred
feet
north
of
it
to
it
and
made
all
commercial,
and
it
was
under
our
to
zoning
just
like
mine
on
the
map,
because
I
have
a
copy
of
the
math
at
that
time.
So
anyway,
but
I
think
it'd
make
a
nice
car
lot.
They
think
mr.
Sorenson
do
a
good.
F
C
P
What
I
expected
going
into
this,
but
it's
it's
very
interesting
and
I.
Thank
you
all.
It
sounds
like
we've
had
emails,
we've
had
a
lot
of
talk.
We've
had
a
lot
of
thought.
Discussion
over
this
property
as
I
have
myself
and
a
lot
of
work
and
I'm
really
glad
tonight
to
hear
that
we
have
some
solutions.
You
know
that's,
basically
what
I'm
looking
for
I,
probably
forum
to
Holly
and
I'm
I'm,
just
looking
to
get
my
car
left
warm
sign,
so
we
can
get
this
going
if
the
PD
is
an
option.
P
That
is
great
for
me.
I
know
it
has
always
has
been
a
business
everyone
in
the
community
there
when
they
purchased
their
homes
when
they
move
there.
It
probably
was
a
business,
so
it's
nothing
new
to
them
and
I
completely
understand
and
I
respect
the
comprehensive
plan
that
we
put
money
into.
Not
not
just
you
know
your
time.
You
know
in
the
community
our
money
into
to
doing
this
comprehensive
plan
and
and
following
it,
I
think
this
still
is
a
unique
property,
as
Craig
said.
Normally,
the
b2
is
for
a
large
scale,
commercial
operation.
P
This
is
not
a
large-scale
lot.
Holly
didn't
bring
up
the
PUD
to
me
exactly
why
she
said,
because
it's
it's
costly
and
time-consuming
I
think
she
said
so
it
didn't
occur
to
her.
This
is
the
first
I've
heard
of
the
PUD
option.
Am
I
saying
that
right?
Is
it
I'm
totally
open
to
that?
If
we're
willing
to
put
more
money
and
more
time
into
doing
this,
I'm
all.
C
For
it
and
I
think
what
you've
seen
from
Council
is
there's
nobody
on
the
council.
Note
that
says
we
don't
want
a
car
lot.
You
know,
but
they're
saying
we
don't
want
to
get
into
that
territory
where
two
or
three
years
from
now
this
might
turn
into
something
that
we
hadn't
wanted
there,
but
because
we
resolved
it
as
right.
We
can't
do
anything
about
it.
P
P
Situation
we
mentioned
a
lot
18th
and
14th.
It's
you
know
100
by
200
lot
that
that's
a
huge
lot
that
could
be
toned
to
be
and
be
put
anything
there.
Given
the
size
of
this
lot,
I
don't
see
much
that
it
could
be
besides
a
car
lot
and
again
I'm
here
for
solutions
to
getting
that
done.
You
know
if
the
pewdie
is
the
route
that
we
all
want
to
go
I
will
most
definitely
pursue
that
and
Glen
Eira
said
I
think
we're
both
all
for
that.
We
here
for
solutions.
My
question.
C
N
Anything
that
mr.
Elmer's
wants
to
do
would
have
to
be
submitted
by
a
separate
application
to
be
considered
separately
and,
and
the
only
thing
that
may
influence
the
result
is,
you
know
whatever
happens
here,
changes
the
neighborhood
to
some
degree
and
does
become
relevant
and
considering
whether
mr.
Elmer's
property
that
doesn't
touch
on
14th
is
so.
N
What
I
so
I'll
read
a
couple
of
things
PUD.
The
purpose
is
intended
to
encourage
developers
to
use
more
creative
and
imaginative
approaches
in
development
or
renewal
of
existing
properties.
It
is
intended
to
be
used
in
areas
of
the
city
that
need
rehabilitation
and
development
in
areas
where
it
is
believed
that
private
investment
should
be
encouraged
or
recognition
that
redevelopment
cannot
be
expected
under
our
normal
rules.
N
So
if
you
use
a
PUD
under
either
of
those
two
categories,
you
should
be
looking
at
a
property
that
has
been
previously
developed
in
a
way
that
makes
it
very
difficult
to
redevelop
under
normal
rules.
I'm,
not
sure
that
that
applies
broadly
to
vacant
lots
or
to
other
pieces
of
property
separately.
But
one
of
the
things
that
has
been
mentioned
by
this
applicant
is
that
there's
an
existing
structure,
there's
existing
paving
it's
sort
of
set
up
as
a
car
dealership,
and
because
of
that,
it
may
make
it
difficult
to
redevelop
in
other
ways.
C
D
J
C
In
favor
pause,
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
go
further.
Then
mr.
loops
I
want
to
thank
you
for
coming
in
I,
mean
I,
think
some
people
have
changed
their
mind
you've
given
us
some
more
information
that
I
think
we're
going
to
I
think
everybody
will
be
happy
or
know
when
this
process
is
done.
So
thanks
for
coming
in,
thank
you
guys
for
coming
in
all.
C
J
C
J
A
C
Q
Wish
I
could
explain
this
easier,
but
the
city
for
the
airport
navigation.
We
need
an
easement
from
the
armory
and
the
armory
is
landlocked
in
their
current
location,
so
they
need
an
easement
from
the
city
for
access
across
our
property
to
highway
218
and
then
also
need
an
easement
from
us
for
drainage
because
their
site
runs
off
onto
our
property.
This
all
kind
of
came
up
about
five
years
ago
when
the
armory
looked
to
rehab
or
refurbish
their
building,
that
kind
of
started
the
process
and
we've
been
working
on
it
ever
since.
Q
So
it's
a
it's
a
long
and
cumbersome
process
when
dealing
with
the
FAA
and
then
also
you
incorporate
the
city
government
and
the
state
government
with
the
armory
so
working
through
that
process,
we
we
actually
have
to
develop
values
for
each
of
the
easements.
We
need
to
buy
the
easement
rights
from
the
armory
then,
and
those
costs
are
eligible
for
reimbursement
through
the
FAA.
Then
we
have
to
develop
a
cost
for
the
easement,
the
access
and
drainage
easement
that
the
armory
wants,
and
then
we
need
to
have
them
purchase
that
easement
from
the
city.
Q
Another
layer.
That's
involved
with
it
is:
we
are
actually
granting
them
access
or
granting
them
an
easement
to
airport
property,
which
was
likely
purchased
with
FAA
dollars
back
when
it
was
decorators,
and
you
can't
sell
off
a
property.
So
there's
just
another
layer
that
we
need
to
research.
So
in
explaining
this
portion
of
these
costs
will
be
90
percent
fa
eligible
the
remaining
10
percent
to
split
up
5%
state
and
5
percent
local.
Q
So
the
the
costs
associated
with
the
city
acquiring
the
easement
over
the
armory
property
only
has
a
5%
impact
to
the
city
for
the
total
cost,
but
the
easement
that
the
city
would
grant
to
the
armory
for
access
and
for
drainage
that
is
not
eligible
for
FAA.
We
would
look
to
the
armory
to
split
those
costs
and
the
way
it
would
work
out
is
a
lot
of
those
costs
on
the
armory
standpoint
would
be
paid
for
I'm,
making
it
too
confusing
they'd
be
paid
for
by
the
grant
dollars
that
we
pay
them
for
our
easement.
Q
So
a
lot
of
work
is
involved
and
that's
why
this
is
a
Eyre
engineering
cost
than
a
normal
project
that
we
bring
forward
to
so
we've
received
a
proposal
from
seh
two
separate
proposals,
one
for
the
easement
that
we
would
get
for
the
armory
and
one
for
the
easement
that
the
armory
would
get
for
us
from
us.
Those
two
costs
are
broken
out
at
an
estimated
cost
of.
Q
Let
me
find
it
here.
Second
estimated
cost
of
forty
two
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
for
the
easement
that
we
would
get
from
the
armory
and
an
estimated
engineering
cost
of
sixteen
thousand
dollars
for
the
easement
that
we
would
give
to
the
armory.
Those
costs
do
not
include
any
of
the
acquisition.
These
are
just
the
engineering
at
this
time
to
put
together
all
the
documents
put
together
the
appraisals
and
get
everything
ready.
We
would
then
bring
back
to
you
in
the
future
what
those
actual
easement
costs
would
be
so
to
develop.
Everything
put
everything
together.
Q
D
M
Q
C
Q
C
G
C
C
D
You
I'll
take
Laura's
time.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
fourth
grade
class
at
Sumner,
4th
grade
classes,
there's
90,
kids,
three
classes
last
Thursday,
that
was
the
absolute
best
day
of
my
week,
maybe
even
a
month,
government
city
government.
So
just
a
shout
out
to
my
new
friends
in
the
4th
grade
class
at
Sumner
elementary
school
I
had
a
ball.
C
H
Had
C
GMC
fall
meeting
where
we
adopted
policy
positions
for
the
coalition,
so
that
was
interesting.
We
had
some
pretty
in-depth
discussion
on
dews
and
how
that
should
look
going
forward
and
the
assessments
as
far
as
that's
concerned,
Rochester
dropped
out
of
a
it
will
be
dropping
out
of
the
coalition.
So
that
was
a
big
financial
hole
that
we
had
to
adjust.
So
that's
kind
of
interesting
for
the
region,
but
that's
all
I
have
Julie
and
Tom
have
a
couple
items.
H
R
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
comes
by
and
checks
out
the
new
external
book
drop
at
the
library.
It
was
took
us
some
time
to
get
it
going,
but
it's
entirely
for
the
patrons
ease
of
use.
You
can
drive
in
roll
down
your
window
drop
the
books
in
the
box,
roll
up
your
window
and
drive
away,
so
we're
really
hoping
it
the
people
like
it,
and
we
want
to
thank
the
ladies
floral
club
and
the
Friends
of
the
library
for
donating
all
the
money
to
get
that
put
together.
So
that
really
amazing.
R
The
only
other
thing
I
want
to
mention
is
that
on
Tuesday
December
10th
will
be
doing
episode,
two
of
race,
the
power
of
an
illusion,
the
documentary
screening
and
discussion.
We
had
the
first
one
last
week
and
had
a
really
good
discussion
and
we
look
forward
to
people
coming.
We
also
have
the
documentary
that
you
can
check
out
from
the
library
if
you
want
to
catch
up
for
that
meeting
on
December
10th
thanks.
C
A
Wanna,
let
council
know
that
this
week
we
will
be
uploading.
The
2020
truth
and
Taxation
documents
so
will
be
uploaded
to
Dropbox
they'll
be
out
on
our
website,
hopefully,
tomorrow
for
the
December
4th
six
o'clock.
Meeting
that
we'll
have
here
for
the
truth,
again
truth
and
Taxation
is
required
by
state
statute.
The
other
item
just
wanted
to
announce
well
having
the
next
council
agenda
the
approval
of
the
Hormel
Foundation
grants
over
were
awarded
for
the
City
of
Austin.
A
We
had
another
90,000
and
pass
through
grants
for
leadership,
Austin
fourth
of
July,
which
will
be
passed
through
anymore
and
the
artwork
center
written
property
taxes
and
then,
finally,
we
got
another
four
hundred
and
ten
thousand
for
the
to
bridge
enhancements
long.
Ninety,
ninety
and
sixty
thousand
dollars
for
a
nine.
Ninety
welcome
to
Austin
science.
So
I'm
told
just
under
eight
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
contributions
this
year
from
the
foundation
greatly
appreciated.
C
Thank
you,
Steve
and
I
just
want
to
congratulate
you
guys
for
that
road
map
on
East,
Oakland
and
getting
it
open.
It
looks
great
people
are
very
happy
with
it.
I
had
that
can
walk
around
and
inspect
everything
the
other
day,
but
hopefully
we
won't
get
that
under
Center.
That
area
closed,
that's
twice,
no
one
with
two
or
three
years:
oh
good,
it
looks
great
over
there
Greg
do
we
have
anything
else.
No.
C
Have
to
add
is
we
went
to
the
coalition
meeting
I,
think
Craig
and
myself
a
book
represented
on
the
board,
be
nice
to
have
council
members
come
up
to
some
of
these
that
coalition
meetings.
We
definitely
they
know
who
lost
it
is
up
there.
We
definitely
get
it
saying
what
goes
on
with
the
coalition,
so
we're
enthusiastic
members
other
than
other
than
that.
We
need
a
motion
to
adjourn
to
December,
2nd
2019
at
5:30
council
chambers,
so
second
favor
I
had
anything
short
break
and
meet
back.