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A
Hey
everyone
chair,
sears,
is
absent
due
to
a
family
emergency
today
and
so
kathy
roche
is
going
to
be
running
the
meeting
our
vice
chair.
Oh
there,
you
are
kathy
and
we
do
have
a
quorum.
So
whenever
you
are
ready
to
start
kathy,
okay.
C
B
B
F
Kathy
I've
got
a
correction
to
the
minutes:
okay,
under
tax
exemptions,
advisory
board,
the
last
bullet
point:
this
should
be
added
to
it.
The
committee
majority
agreed
that
the
nla
should
look
at
changing
the
code
in
terms
of
landscaping
and
that
it
should
also
include
the
tree
code,
and
I
would
just
move
under
nla
reports.
The
last
sentence
of
the
first
paragraph.
F
The
committee
would
like
to
understand
what
the
project
encompasses
and
how
the
neighborhoods
will
be
involved
period
and
then
strike
the
first
line
of
the
underneath
the
nla
reports.
A
No,
I
just
want
to
offer
a
little
clarification
too.
At
the
last
meeting,
the
committee
discussed
xeriscaping
and
landscaping
along
with
trees,
and
the
first
vote
was
for
xeriscaping
and
trees,
and
that
did
not
pass,
and
so
the
direction
was
for
the
memo
to
include
all
of
the
bend
tree
code,
asp,
the
project
information
and
and
where
we're
going
to
go
from
that.
But
it
did
not
include
the
xeriscaping.
B
B
Okay,
so
be
it
then
12,
oh,
we
all
got
to
vote.
Sorry,
do
the
yeas
have
it.
Maybe
if
people
could
raise
their
hands
or
say
yay
or
nay,
I
mean
I'll
just
ask:
are
there
any
nays?
B
It
doesn't
look
like
there's
any
nades.
So
we'll
consider
that
as
past
public
comment,
there
were
no
public
comments
of
reported
by
michaela.
So
I
think
that
we
don't
have
to.
A
We
so
we
can
open
it
up
to
people
who
are
online.
There
was
no
written
public
comments.
A
At
this
time,
if
you
want
to
raise
your
hand
and
you're
listening
in
and
that
is
star,
nine
on
the
phone
and
there's
a
raise
hand
function
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen.
A
Yep
doesn't
look
like
there's
any
and
kayla
for
the
record.
Lisa
muscle
has
joined
us.
A
With
that
kathy,
there
are
no
public
comments.
Okay,.
B
Let
us
record
it
as
such,
and
I
guess
then
we
move
on
to
nla
rep
reports,
30
minutes
we
have
for
this
and
we
really
want
everyone
to
focus
on
important
stuff
happening,
not
just
kind
of
chit
chitchat.
B
A
Yeah,
I
appreciate
it
kathy
so
summer
and
kathy
had
asked
that
we
move
rep
reports.
A
H
A
Okay.
So
with
that,
we
wanted
to
move
the
rep
reports
up
further
into
the
agenda,
because
these
often
get
cut
off
when
they
are
sitting
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
And-
and
so
we
wanted
to
give
you
the
space
to
do
that,
because
it
is
at
the
front
of
the
meeting
and
we
do
have
a
lot
on
the
agenda.
We
are
going
to
limit
it
to
two
minutes.
I
don't
think
anybody
enjoys
timers.
A
We've
had
this
discussion
before,
but
I
do
want
you
to
be
aware
of
of
how
much
time
we're
taking
and
as
kathy
said,
just
making
sure
that
we're
sticking
to
what
are
our
neighborhoods
dealing
with
that.
We
want
to
bring
to
the
nla
and
then
also
celebrating
successes.
That's
what
this
time
is
for
us.
So
with
that
we're
going
to
do
two
minutes
each
and
if
we
can
follow
the
rule,
call
order,
as
we
typically
do.
A
That
would
be
preferred
so
with
that
the
first
person
on
the
agenda-
that's
here
today-
is
kathy.
So
we'll
start
with
you,
okay,.
B
Well,
I'm
of
course
representing
boyd
acres,
neighborhood
we're
on
the
northeast
side
of
the
of
the
city
and
there
hasn't
been
much
buzz
going
around.
There
are
some
people
on
land
use
that
are
concerned
about
some
changes
that
the
state's
doing
to
hoa
codes-
and
I
guess
we
see
some
of
the
homeless
houseless
population
moving
about
these
days
because
of
the
weather,
change
and
other
things
by
the
sea,
new
new
additions
to
encampments.
B
The
last
time
I
drove
past
robot
road.
It
was
looking
kind
of
neat,
so
that
was
encouraging
and
we
are
having
our
annual
picnic
in
june
and
we've
begun
doing.
The
planning
for
that,
which
is
a
challenge
who
knows
if
kobe's
gonna
shut
us
down
again
by
then
so
I'm
hoping
that
that's
not
the
case,
and
I'm
done.
A
A
H
F
Had
a
series
of
questions
for
the
other
nas
and
I
don't
know
the
best
way
to
get
the
answer,
maybe
you
could
respond
via
chat
or
to
michaela
one
is
the
radar
sign
locations?
One
of
the
questions
that
I
have
is
how
do
nas
decide
where
to
put
the
signs?
F
The
other
one
is
about
the
slow
down
signs
and
the
illegal
firework
signs,
because
those
are
coming
up
sometime
soon
and
the
communication
survey
from
the
city
indicated
that
signs
were
not
the
preferred
way
that
the
public
wanted
us
to
communicate
with
them.
So
then,
I
wonder
what
other
nas
have
looked
at
in
terms
of
if
signs
have
made
a
difference
in
speeding
or
in
fireworks
or
not,
so
I
I
guess,
I'm
looking
for
feedback
from
other
nas
as
far
as
feedback
regarding
signs
and
their
success
and
how
you
feel
about
them.
F
The
last
thing
I've
got
from
southern
crossing
is
about
the
cyd
property,
the
central
oregon,
irrigation
district
property
and
elizabeth
will
share
on
that
about
the
survey
that
we're
doing
and
three
nas
are
involved,
which
southern
crossing
is
one
of
them.
So
that's
it
from
southern
crossing.
C
Hi,
my
name
is
jim
cristo
and
I
represent
southeast
bend
for
the
last
month.
We
have
been
engaged
in
discussions
with
old
farm
n.a
on
a
kind
of
a
big
event
at
the
opening
of
the
new
park
alpaglia
park
on
15th
street
and
we're
looking
at
that
to
have
an
all
southeast
quadrant
representation.
C
At
that
event,
we've
the
bend,
parks
and
rec
department
wants
to
run
it
so
we'll
kind
of
piggyback
on
them
save
a
little
bit
of
money,
but
the
idea
is
for
us
to,
and
hopefully
everybody
can
get
more
members
and
then
afterwards,
we'll
have
a
annual
meeting.
We've
already
put
the
request
in
to
delay
it
beyond
june
30th,
in
order
to
have
any
new
members
feel
like
they
have
a
say
in
our
neighborhood
association.
So
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
G
I
represent
old
band
and
first
I
have
really
good
news
that
the
city
of
bands
is
taking
the
lead
in
completion
of
the
deschutes
river
trail
along
riverfront
avenue
the
problems
there
really
are
first,
but
it's
dead
end
street
and
all
sorts
of
traffic
drives
down
hoping
to
get
to
miller's
landing
there
and
it
creates
congestion
for
the
owners
and
second,
most
of
the
floaters
are
walking
down
the
middle
of
the
straight
street.
So
it
needs
a
trail.
G
G
Part
of
the
solution
for
redux
for
improved
housing
is
to
begin
cutting
back
on
short-term
rentals.
We
do
feel
that
in
our
neighborhood,
some
of
those
could
easily
go
the
long-term
rentals.
G
We
are
in
favor
of
the
big
housing
density
development,
south
of
arizona,
the
core
pine
project.
We
are
trying
to
work
with.
G
G
A
Thanks
chris,
is
there
any
final
thoughts
that
you
have.
A
Times
two:
okay,
thank
you
up
next
is
cassie
getting.
Can
you
hear.
I
J
I
Hi
yeah,
I
wrote
our
report
at
the
last
meeting.
We
had
our
annual
meeting
on
february.
17Th
topics
were
houselessness,
the
code
amendments
the
go
bond
and
that
is
posted
to
our
website.
If
you
want
to
take
a
look
in
response
to
southeast
bend's
comment,
our
board
does
get
input
from
our
residents,
but
we
have
made
the
decisions
as
to
where
to
put
our
radar
signs
just
to
give
you
that
feedback.
I
Our
next
board
meeting
is
monday,
the
18th
at
5
p.m,
and
we
are
doing
some
additional
work
to
our
website.
We
did
an
update
that
is
looking
really
good
work
with
a
web
designer
and
we're
going
to
start
adding
in
more
links
to
the
city,
as
well
as
other
areas
for
information.
You
think
there's
for
land
use,
especially
you
want
to
make
the
do
a
better
job
with
that
and
lastly,
our
facebook
has
seen
a
lot
of
local
businesses
in
our
neighborhood.
Add
on,
I
think
recently.
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
because
chamber
has
been
adding,
you
know,
made
some
comments,
but
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
businesses
that
are
interested
in
our
facebook,
which
I
thought
was
kind
of
good
and
I
think
maybe
that's
just
a
way
of
reaching
out.
I
just
I
mentioned
that
has
been
interesting
to
hear
and
I
think
that's
it
for
now.
D
I'm
dave
johnson
from
old
farm.
We
had
several
things.
First
of
all,
an
achievement:
we've
done
our
city
beautification
and
gotten
that
up
to
speed
and
had
a
very
successful
pickup
last
saturday
and
lots
of
bags
of
trash
anyway,
we're
planning
to
repeat
that
another
thing
we've
been
focusing
on
my
stepping
down
as
the
nla
rep
and
having
finding
a
replacement.
D
J
Represent
summit
west,
which
is
one
of
the
more
westernly
facing
neighborhood
associations
in
bend,
which
is
why
our
one
of
our
three
priorities
is
everything
to
do
with
safety
and
fire,
so
we're
doing
we're
encouraging
hoas
to
become
firewise
certified.
To
that
end,
we
met
with
hoa
256
homes
today
and
we're
getting
them
firewise
certified
we're
putting
a
fire
free
effort
together
and
we're
working
on
evacuation
routes
from
the
west
side.
That's
been
something
that's
been
going
on
for
a
couple
years,
so
it's
not
going
to
happen
anytime
soon.
J
The
houseless
discussions
are
all
consuming
would
be
lovely
to
see
that
come
to
an
end
for
us,
I
don't
think
we're
making
any
progress
as
an
n
a
on
it,
and
we
are
now
adding
more
board
members
than
we're
losing,
so
we're
actually
gaining
traction
in
that
direction.
I
think
we're
we're
up
to
six
or
seven
right
now
with
a
few
other
interested
parts.
Persons.
So
with
any
luck,
we'll
have
a
full
board
here
pretty
soon.
K
K
K
There
were,
I
think,
about
seven
or
eight
neighborhoods
that
came
forward
willing
to
participate.
So
we,
I
think,
we're
going
to
end
up
with
an
extra
amount
of
funds
we're
not
going
to
hit
the
proposed
600
per
n
a.
K
And
then
everybody
knows
about
all
of
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
with
lcdc
and
some
of
our
board
members
have
been
listening
to
and
some
of
our
residents
have
been
listening
to
those
discussions
to
learn
more
about
climate-friendly
and
equitable
communities.
It'll
be
very
interesting
to
see
where
that
heads.
I
I
think
that
it's
likely
that
we'll
see
delays
and
maybe
even
some
other
additional
changes,
and
then
we
are.
We
had
a
wonderful
meeting.
K
L
I
just
had
a
quick
question
for
lisa.
If
that's,
okay
can
you?
Let
me
know
sort
of
fill
me
in
on
what
the
money
being
raised
for
these
nart
round
tables
is
being
used
for
just
curious.
K
No,
no
we're
not
paying
for
panelists,
but
we
do
have
to
pay
for
the
location
and
each
of
the
like
the
caldera
high
school.
You
have
to
pay
for
the
auditorium
and
for
the
use
of
their
audio
visual
equipment,
and
I
believe
they
also
have
charges
for
their
auditory
and
manager.
K
A
Thank
you
up
next,
chris
pearson,.
M
K
Hey
thanks
for
that
question.
It
is,
they
will
be
recorded.
We
are
not
able
to
do
the
live
stream
that
would
have
pushed
us
way
beyond
our
budget
and
also
osu.
Cascades
has
helped
us
with
that
live
stream
in
the
past
and
it
didn't
seem
problematic,
but
I
guess
things
have
kind
of
changed
and
because
of
server
overload
or
system
overload
they're,
just
not
able
to
do
the
live
stream
like
they
were
able
to
before.
K
So
we
will
record
these
and
provide
the
links
out
to
all
of
the
neighborhoods
in
case
anybody
wants
to
watch
it,
and
since
I've
got
the
opportunity,
I
don't
mean
to
use
up
your
time
as
a
reminder:
panelists
we've
got
megan
perkins
and
patty
adair
chief
krantz,
and
then
we
have
a
gentleman
coming
from
oregon
and
I
think
his
name
is.
I
remember
his
first
name
is
alan
and
I'm
sorry
can't
remember
his
last
name
and
I
think
that's
it
for
now.
K
M
Quick,
we
had
our
n
a
meeting
last
week.
It
was
fairly
sparsely
attended
and
some
folks
out
of
town,
but
we
did
pick
up
a
new
board
member.
So
that's
good.
We
also
have
a
couple
of
folks
who
are
regularly
attending
our
meetings,
who
have
sort
of
specialized
interests,
but
they
may
become
members
imminently
too
karen
to
respond
to
years.
We
surveyed
our
members
about
where
to
place
the
mobile
radars
and
our
chair,
hunts
and
land
land
chair
jeff
are
making
decisions
about.
M
I
think
that's
sort
of
routinely
how
we've
handled
it
in
the
past
or
that's
my
understanding.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time,
as
we
have
in
the
last
few
meetings
on
this
compass
corner
development,
which
is
next
to
where
rivers
edge
golf
course
is.
I
think
there's
hope
that
we
can
have
a
an
outcome
that
will
influence
the
developers
to
make
the
residents
in
the
area
happier
it's
a
large
development.
That's
both
commercial
and
residential
and
a
lot
of
people
are
freaked
out
about
it.
M
For
various
reasons,
shelter
could
amendment
we
spend
a
lot
of
time.
Like
others
talk.
Oh
thanks
for
the
extra
time
talking
about
it
and
we're
sort
of
confused
about
how
to
elicit
the
opinions
of
our
members
or
to
solicit
those
opinions,
so
we've
not
surveyed.
I
took
it
upon
myself
with
others,
reviewing
my
email
and
sent
a
message
to
michaela
sort
of
outlining
some
general
safety
concerns
we
have.
But
I
guess
maybe
we'll
be
talking
about
that
more
in
this
meeting.
M
The
last
quick
last
quick
thing
is
that
we
have
a
lady
who's,
a
resident
in
rna
who
attends
pretty
much
all
our
meetings
to
inform
us
of
her
involvement
in
the
dark
skies
movement
and
apparently
she
and
her
husband
who
are
both
involved
in
it-
have
had
a
lot
of
success
with
the
county
and
the
county
is
now
looking
to
change
the
the
code
to
increase
people's
awareness,
about
the
need
to
keep
their
lights
under
control,
to
protect
the
dark
skies.
And
that's
it
thanks.
E
Hi
everybody
I'm
with
mountain
view,
the
largest
of
the
neighborhood
associations
out
in
the
northeast
we've
spent
some
time
discussing
the
houseless
code
amendments
and
trying
to
figure
out
where
we're
going
to
put
their
survey
out
right
now.
With
regards
karen
to
where
we're
going
to
put
the
traffic
signals,
we
we
take
input
and
then
I
think
we
had
a
few
territories
that
had
to
be
satisfied
with
regards
to
if
it
hadn't
been
done
there
before
and
how
many
you
know,
priority
ranking
and
so
on
I'll
I'll.
E
Let
you
know
later
what
what
happens
with
that?
We
have
our
annual
meeting
we're
going
to
do
a
picnic
in
the
park
with
music
and
the
whole
thing
that
we
tried
to
do
before.
Covid
got
canceled,
so
it's
up
and
running
again
it's
going
to
be
this
month.
No,
not
this
month,
it's
going
to
be
in
june
and
yeah
we're
looking
forward
to
that
where
we
will
have
elections
and
try
to
bring
on
a
few
make
the
announcement
that
we're
looking
for
more
board
members
and
so
on.
E
Pretty
stable
right
now
with
board
members,
but
we'd
like
to
have
better
representation
with
some
diversity,
but
we're
going
to
try
to.
We
continue
to
work
on
that.
Otherwise,
I
think
that's
just
about
it.
Thanks
a
lot.
A
N
Yes,
so
elizabeth
rhodes
southwest
bend,
we
have
been
spending
the
last
several
weeks
preparing
for
our
second
general
meeting,
our
spring
general
meeting,
which
will
be
april
28th.
We
have
two
guest
speakers,
damien,
cernick
and
he'll,
be
talking
about
climate-friendly
and
equitable
communities,
the
proposed
rules
and
what
it
means
for
bend,
and
we
have
a
second
guest
speaker,
todd
heisler,
who
is
a
consultant
for
central
oregon
land
watch
and
former
executive
director
of
deschutes
river
conservancy.
N
He
will
be
talking
about
the
importance
of
water
supply
in
the
deschutes
watershed
in
a
drought
and
we're
doing
that
meeting
via
zoom
and
we're
hoping
to
get
plenty
of
attendees,
and
karen
mentioned
the
survey
that
we
have
finally
launched,
and
it
is
the
deschutes
south
canyon,
which
is
the
the
place
name
for
the
coid
property,
and
it
is
a
use
survey
and
it's
it's
out
there
in
the
world,
and
I
encourage
everyone
to
take
the
survey
put
in
your
voice
as
to
to
what
you
think
and
how
you
use
the
that
particular
property.
N
As
for
issues,
there's
been
a
lot
of
concern
about
short-term
rentals
and
that's
sort
of
been
a
big
topic
of
discussion
in
our
neighborhood
and
that's
it.
O
Last
but
not
least,
I'm
here
with
you
representing
larkspur,
we
had
a
pretty
great
neighborhood
cleanup
on
sunday,
I'm
sure
probably
the
first
of
many,
and
it
was
great
to
like
see
people
in
in
person.
We
are
still
talking
about
and
just
making
sure
neighbors
have
in
information
around
the
the
wilson
project.
That
is
ongoing
and
still
have
some
board
members
emailing
with
the
city
about
some
creative
ideas
for
slowing
down
traffic
and
increasing
safety
on
pedigree
sean.
O
I
hear
you
we're
we're
hoping
to
talk
about
fire
preparation
and
evacu
possible
evacuation
rounds
at
our
may
general
meeting.
We're
gonna
do
that
via
zoom,
but
I
would
be
curious.
O
I
don't
I
don't
know
what
format's
appropriate
michaela,
but
I'd
be
curious,
just
to
hear
what
other
nas
are
doing
in
terms
of
the
fire
fire
free
event
and
if
there's
coordination
in
various
neighborhoods
around
that,
but
certainly
that's
something
that
we're
hearing
is
really
top
of
people's
minds,
so
we'll
be
covering
that
at
our
general
meeting
in
may,
as
well
as
water
conversations.
O
I
know
that
everybody
is
experiencing
deep
awareness
about
our
water
and
drought
situation,
and
so
we'll
be
talking
about
water
conservation
at
that
as
well,
and
I
think
that's
just
about
it.
For
us.
A
Thanks
morgan
and
I
will
just
say
that
fire,
evacuation
and
bin
beautification
events-
those
are
all
I've-
got
a
lot
of
information
coming
towards
you
guys,
because
we're
about
to
ramp
up
lisa.
K
K
Yeah
thanks
for
calling
on
me,
so
cwna
decided
not
to
do
our
fire
ready,
bend
program
primarily
because
we
were
able
to
record
the
events.
Last
year
we
posted
those
recordings
out
on
youtube
and
michaela
I'll.
Send
that
link
to
you
again
because
they're
still
very
relevant.
Nothing
really
has
changed
and
it's
a
great
way
to
get
additional
information
into
people's
hands
on
those
topics
and
then,
in
terms
of
karen
brought
up
the
radar
signs
and
we
as
a
board,
usually
make
that
decision.
K
A
I
do
just
want
to
give
a
quick
shout
out
to
aubry
butte,
hans
and
pauline
are
probably
on
their
way
to
the
first
chamber,
bend
101
event
tonight,
so
we
have
a
neighborhood
association
table
in
the
same
way
that
we
kind
of
did
this
for
leadership
bend
alumni
association.
It
has
a
giant
map.
People
can
identify
where
their
neighborhood
is
provide
us
with
their
contact
info,
and
then
we
can
connect
you
with
those
individuals
after
the
event,
so
really
appreciate
them
being
up
there.
B
Yeah
next
topic
up:
if
I'm
reading
the
agenda
correctly,
is
shelter
code
areas
of
agreement,
true
true
and
you're,
the
one
who's
presenting.
So
that
was
a
real
short.
I
got
the
ball
and
I'm
throwing
it
back
to
you.
A
Okay,
that
sounds
good
to
me.
Let
me
get
my
screen
pulled
up,
so
as
you
all
most
of
you
should
know.
A
I
had
taken
time
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks
to
call
each
of
you
and
talk
to
you
about
the
shelter
code,
one
just
to
kind
of
get
an
idea
of
where
everyone
is
sitting,
but
also
because
our
last
letter
to
the
planning
commission
was
a
pretty
even
split
for
the
for
the
nla
and
it
did
pass
by
one
vote
to
go
on
to
the
planning
commission,
and
so
after
talking
with
each
of
you
and
talking
with
the
mayor
about
the
shelter
code
amendments
and
where
we're
gonna
go
as
a
committee,
I
was
able
to
come
up
with
things
that
we
agree
on
as
a
committee,
and
so
I
was
hoping
we
could
spend
some
time
talking
about
those
today
and
and
talking
through
what
the
specific
asks
of
council
are
going
to
be.
A
So
I
guess
first
to
start
out.
I
would
ask
what
questions
do
you
all
still
have
about
shelter
code
about
the
planning
commission
changes?
I
did
send
out
the
the
quick
reference
guide
that
had
those
changes
covered
in
that,
but
I
realized
that
it's
a
lot
of
info
and
there
was
a
spring
break
in
there.
So
if
you
have
questions
about
what
has
changed
from
planning
commission,
that
would
be
the
opportunity
to
ask
those.
A
Okay,
so
it
sounds
like
we
all
feel
pretty
solid
about
what
the
current
shelter
codes
look
like.
So
then,
just
to
focus
in
on
what
these
questions
or
the
the
themes
were
from
our
discussions.
A
I
think
there
were
three
overall
takeaways
that
I
got
and
that
were
pretty
much
repeated
through
a
lot
of
the
neighborhood
associations.
How
we
want
to
talk
about
them,
I
think,
is
what
we
want
to
accomplish
today,
and
so
you
can
see
among
the
bullets.
There's
24-hour
on-site
management
should
be
required,
not
just
on
call.
That
was
a
theme
that
I
heard
from
the
majority
of
the
neighborhoods.
A
This
is
also
something
where
we,
I
think
karen
bergsvick
provided
a
suggestion
from
her
experience
in
volunteering
with
shelters
in
the
past,
which
was
that
there
could
be
a
person
on
site
who
helps
to
oversee
items
like
after
hours,
the
the
community
after
hours,
and
so
this
has
worked
well
in
other
areas.
It
also
doesn't
overwhelm
the
provider
with
additional
costs
of
staffing
and
the
way
that
they
do.
A
That
is
through
some
incentivization
and
training,
and
it
really
allows
the
community
to
be
in
charge
of
the
community
if
that
makes
sense
so,
and
that
was
something
that
I
wanted
to
put
in
front
of
everyone
and
see,
is
there
anything
is?
Is
this
suggestion
agreeable
by
many
or
are
there
questions
or
reservations
about
it?.
A
A
F
I
saw
them
in
the
greater
seattle
area
in
managed
tent
camps
and
basically,
they
empowered
the
tenants
to
somewhat
to
be
on
site
and
answer
questions
and
do
the
management
that's
required
rather
than
the
agency
staff.
The
agency
staff
were
a
backup
sometimes
to
the
tenants,
but
basically
it
allowed
them
to
oversee
their
own
rules
and
policies,
and-
and
it
was
very
successful
when
the
tenants
were
empowered
to
do
that,
and
it
didn't
overwhelm
the
agency
with
the
staffing
costs
of
doing
it
24
hours.
F
So
that's
kind
of
my
experience
that
it
can
work
and
that,
if
24
hour,
on-site
is
desired.
That
agencies
be
allowed
to
train
tenants
to
help
do
that.
O
Yeah
exactly
what
karen
said,
I
I
agree
and
then-
and
I
would
just
follow
up
with
that-
on
a
on
a
human
level
on
a
community
level.
You
know
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
have
24-hour
kind
of
management
of
our
neighborhoods,
let
alone
individual
human
lives.
So
I
think
we
can
put
all
kinds
of
safeguards
into
place.
This
is
why
we
have
the
good
neighbor
agreements.
This
is
why
we
have
hope
you
know
service
providers
involved
in
this
process.
O
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
really
really
good
guardrails
on
on
these
code
codes
and
and
adding
in
kind
of
an
unnecessary
burden
on
service
providers,
could
could
keep
us
from
having
the
really
important
shelter
resources
that
we
need,
and
I
think,
would
only
exacerbate
some
some
of
the
problems
that
we
all
are
seeing
and
why
these
shelter
code
amendments
are
going
into
into
place
in
the
first
place.
O
So
I
think
we
should
think
about
the
the
realities
of
what's
possible
and
I
mean
for
me
I
know
I
I
come
from
a
hopeful
place,
but
I
think
giving
people
a
sense
of
autonomy,
a
sense
of
dignity
and
a
sense
that
they
have
some
some
role
in
their
communities
is
really
important.
That's
huge!
That's
huge!
What
humanity
means.
O
O
Okay,
sorry
michaela
one
more
thing.
Yes,
I
think
it's
also
really
important
to
remember
that
we
have
other
resources
in
our
community
that
are
available,
24
7..
I
know
that
I
have
access
when
we've
done
various
shelters
when
there's
a
weather
emergency,
the
mobile
crisis
response
team
has
been
really
great
and
they
they
show
up
as
needed,
and
so
it's
not
just
leaving
people
to
their
own
devices,
but
I
think
making
sure
that
we
know
what
other
resources
are
available
to
wrap
around
on
a
24-hour
basis.
A
I
think
that's
a
good
point,
morgan
just
for
good
measure,
a
quick
show
of
hands
as
to
whether
you
feel
comfortable
putting
forward
this
request
from
to
counsel.
B
A
So
I'm
seeing
all
but
three
so
those
who
are
opposed.
Can
you
explain
to
us
what
your
reservation
or
how
you
would
prefer
this
bullet
to
be
reworked.
D
I'm
sorry
I
couldn't
hear
I
couldn't
tell
who
was
who
was
speaking
on
this,
but
I'm
I'm
in
favor
of
on-site
management.
A
To
ask
for
24
hour
on
right
on
site
management,
but
allowing
it
to
be
a
tenant
or
a
volunteer
to
fill
those
hours
rather
than
requiring
an
additional
staffer.
D
A
D
A
Well,
all
of
these
are
an
ask
we
can
ask
to
require,
but
ultimately
it
comes
down
to
council's
decision
on
whether
or
not
they
want
to
include
our
recommendation
in
the
the
their
changes
to
the
code
if
they
make
any.
E
Yeah
thanks,
I'm
I'm
totally
in
favor
of
this.
I
I
wonder,
though,
if
these
camps,
encampments
or
shelters
are
intended
to
be
somewhat
transitional
to
accommodate.
E
You
know
the
people
wanting
to
to
move
forward,
there's
going
to
be
quite
a
bit
of
turnover
in
this
thing,
and
I
wonder
how
that's
being
considered
and
so
on,
but,
like
I
say,
I'm
totally
in
favor
of
it.
I
just
think
that
that
may
be
an
issue
thanks.
A
K
I
have
not
seen
any
of
any
success
of
management
with
these
camps,
and
I
had
spent
a
good
deal
amount
of
time
on
the
city
council,
where
this
topic
did
come
up
and
we
opted
instead
to
support
affordable
housing
through
our
funds
and
donations,
and
that
seemed
like
a
better
use
of
money
than
anything
else
that
we
could
come
up
with
I've.
Also,
quite
honestly,
we
just
drove
through
portland
today
and
it's
out
of
control
folks.
K
It
is
if
we
don't
put
some
management
if
we
don't
put
some
structure
around
this,
and
if
there
is
not
professional
management,
it's
going
to
look
just
like
portland
and
it's
already
happening
in
bed,
and
you
look
at
where
the
camps
are
popping
up
right
next
to
the
red
lion,
go
look
at
that
guy
actually
has
a
bit
of
a
mansion
going.
So
I
feel
really
strongly
that
we
can
put
this
in
the
letter,
but
it
needs
to
be
vetted.
It
needs
to
be
checked
out
thoroughly.
K
We
can't
afford
for
it
to
go
wrong,
and
I
I
echo
what
steve
just
said.
If
these
are
supposed
to
be
transitional
and
people
are
supposed
to
be
moving
out
of
these,
why
would
we
want
to
put
a
resident
person
in
charge
and
keep
them
there?
That
seems
like
we're
holding
that
person
down.
A
I
agree
that
we
need
more
information
about
how
these
camps
would
be
managed
and
I'm
comfortable,
adding
a
caveat
suggesting
that
we
look
into
best
practices
and
models
for
that
which,
I
think
will
answer
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
you've
provided
and
morgan.
I
see
your
hand
is
up
too.
O
O
That
these
codes
are
for
managed
shelter.
We
don't
have
that,
except
for
a
couple
of
very
small
exceptions,
veterans,
village,
the
2nd
street
shelter,
the
turnkey
hotel.
So
so,
when
you
say
this
is
already
happening
and
you
talk
about
intense
tent
communities
that
have
popped
up
around
town.
Those
are
there
because
we
don't
have
these
options
and
so
to
say
that
it's
already
happening
as
if
there
has
been
some
lapse
in
management
on
the
tents
that
have
been
popping
up.
O
Tent
communities
that
have
been
showing
up
various
places
around
town
is
just
not
true,
because
those
aren't
managed
so
so.
This
whole
conversation
is
around
putting
into
place
managed
communities
and-
and
I
have
a
high
degree
of
trust
in
our
service
providers,
to
know
how
to
do
that
best
with
whatever
population
they're
serving
at
a
particular
site.
O
So
I
I
think,
if
we
don't
want
to
see
those
tent
communities
popping
up
randomly
and
in
an
unmanaged
fashion,
we
need
to
yes
have
have
some
some
guidance
in
place
which
we
have
in
these
codes
to
help
make
these
managed
communities
successful,
but
putting
so
many
requirements
on
them
that
service
providers
can't
even
make
them
happen
is
just
going
to
continue
the
problem
that
we
already
have.
O
So
if
we
want
a
different
result,
we
have
to
make
it
possible
for
solutions
to
be
put
into
place,
and
I
don't
think
a
group
of
us
who
are
are
part
of
our
neighborhood
associations
and
deeply
invested
in
our
local
community.
But
many
of
us
don't
have
service
provider.
Backgrounds
should
be
d.
You
know
mandating
the
the
little
tiny
details
that
go
into
what
our
service
providers
have
been
doing.
For
you
know
building
experience
in
for
years
and
years.
O
K
So
that's
their
kayla.
Thank
you
morgan.
I
appreciate
all
of
your
points
and
I
think,
if
anything,
what
you've
done
is
you've
proven
the
point
that
we
need
a
town
hall.
We
need
an
opportunity
for
people
to
voice
all
of
their
opinions,
so
the
council
may
hear
it
before
they
act
and
let's
get
it
all
up
on
the
table,
because
we
do
have
a
variety
of
opinions
throughout
the
community.
L
Yes,
we'll
be
doing
that
at
our
may
4th
meeting
for
the
public
hearing,
and
I
would
also
just
like
to
say
that
yeah
I
mean
these
are
yes,
these
are
transitional
shelters.
You
know
the
goal
is
to
transition
right
and
if
you
heard
carol,
negan's
report
at
our
joint
meeting
last
friday
about
how,
with
just
opening
the
division
street
shelter
in
just
about,
was
it
six
weeks
ago,
they've
already
transitioned
multiple
people
into
stable
housing
from
from
that
shelter.
L
If
you
listen
to
john's
report
on
the
shepherd
house
and
how
many
people
they've
transitioned
to
permanent
shelter,
permanent
housing,
I
mean
that's
what
we
want
right.
We
want
this
to
be
transitional,
you
know,
and
secondly,
I
I
on
on-site
management,
doesn't
not
having
on-site
management
doesn't
mean.
These
are
not
managed
in
any
way.
Neighbor
impact
is
managing
the
division
street
shelter.
L
They
are
managing
it,
not
not
the
residents,
but
the
strategy
is,
is
to
have
some
form
of
shared
government
shared
empowerment
of
the
people
that
are
living
there,
even
if
only
briefly
that
doesn't
mean
they're
turning
it
all
over
to
one
person
and
saying
okay,
now
you're
in
charge
and
by
the
way
you
can't
transition
into
into
permanent
housing,
because
we
need
you
here
to
manage.
That's
not
what
happens.
Neighbor
impact
is
managing
that
shelter.
L
Shepherd's
house
manages
that
shel
the
shelter,
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
make
that
clear
like
what
what
that
meant
when
we
talked
about
this
sort
of
shared
government
spot
it
just
it's
it's
a
it's
a
it's!
It's
there
to
make
sure
that
the
people
who
are
who
are
living
there,
however,
briefly
have
some
form
of
buy-in
to
to
where
they're
living
and
some
some
pride
in,
where
they're
living
and
some
connection
to
their
neighborhood
and
that's
it.
A
Okay,
so
with
that,
I
think
that
at
this
point
we
would
have
24-hour
on-site
management
suggesting
that
it
should
be
required
not
just
be
on
call
and
then
allow
the
exploration
of
using
24-hour
services
in
volunteer
capacity
or
seeing
what
other
resources
are
available.
Those
are
all
all
items
that
we
would
be
sending
to
council.
A
Okay,
we'll
move
to
the
next
bullet
point,
so
a
buffer
between
schools
and
shelters.
Let's
see
here
so
I
did
get
a
little
bit
further
clarification
on
the
planning
commission's
process
when
they
were
discussing
the
potentially
requesting
a
buffer
between
schools-
and
it
sounds
like
let's
see
here.
A
So
currently,
the
currently
shelters
are
allowed
next
to
schools
and
parks
in
residential
areas.
I
believe,
with
a
conditional
use,
permit
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
ian
or
pauline.
A
So
after
the
the
planning
commission
heard
and
that
those
rules
were
in
place,
they
decided
not
to
suggest
a
buffer
moving
forward
and
schools
were.
That
was
something
that
continued
to
come
up
in
these
nla
conversations,
and
so
I
wanted
to
put
it
back
out
there
and
see
where
everyone
is
at
with
that
as
well.
A
K
Thanks
for
calling
on
me,
so
I
just
want
to
point
out
if
you
guys
haven't
been
reading
the
news
you
can
look
at
city
of
kirkland
up
near
seattle
and
look
at
what's
happening
with
them
with
regard
to
parents
very
upset
that
shelters
are
located
very
close
to
schools
and
very
close
to
where
their
kids
are,
but
additionally
they're
very
upset
that
this
was
outside
of
the
regular
land
use
process,
and
this
was
outside
of
any
type
of
community
involvement
or
community
notification.
K
A
Thanks
lisa,
so
I
should
clarify
to
the
the
planning
commission
did
make
a
couple
of
changes
to
this
section
and
they
did
update
it
so
that,
if
something
is
or
if
a
shelter,
an
outdoor
shelter
is
within
a
residential
zone,
it
would
need
to
be
associated
with
the
public
or
institutional
use,
meaning
schools,
churches
parks.
Those
basically
would
have
to
provide
the
property,
I
believe
again,
colleen
or
paulie
and
ian.
If
I
am
incorrect,
let
me
know
they
also.
A
Yeah,
so
for
these
it
would
be
a
type
2
notification.
Is
that
correct
pauline.
A
D
O
In
addition
to
that,
I
once
again,
I
just
think
we're.
We
need
to
make
sure
we're
not
considering
guardrails
that
will
keep
us
from
addressing
this
situation.
So
so
I
totally
understand
where
these
concerns
are
coming
from.
I
absolutely
do
and
at
the
same
time,
if
a
service
writer
came
to
us
and
said
this
church
is
willing,
to
put
you
know,
some
some
shelter
structures
on
their
property
to
support
single
moms
with
kids
who
go
to
this
school.
O
Are
we
going
to
suggest
a
limitation
on
that
and
say?
No
sorry,
you
can't
you're
you're
a
danger
to
your
own
child's
school.
I
just
think
we
need
to
be
really
careful,
certainly
consider
people's
concerns
around
this,
but
also
say
to
ourselves.
What
might
we
be
precluding
if
we
put
too
tight
of
restrictions
on
on
these
codes?
O
A
Nope,
okay!
Well,
she
did
provide
me
with
the
response,
so
I
will
speak
on
her
behalf.
Type
two
is
only
for
new
construction
of
shelters,
so
it
is
required,
but
if
it
was
like
an
extension
of
an
existing
use,
then
that
wouldn't
be
required
and
then
I
believe,
there's
an
addition
as
well,
that
wouldn't
require
a
type
2
notice,
but
essentially,
if
they're
already
located
there
and
operating
there,
I
don't
believe
that
there
is
a
notice.
M
Yeah,
I
would
support
in
keeping
the
this
buffer
second
bullet
issue
in,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
to
me
it's
a
it's
a
political
or
perception
issue
so,
irrespective
of
whether
there
are
laws
that
cover
this
point
and
make
it
unnecessary,
the
fact
is,
the
public
in
this
city
is
more
riled
up
about
this
particular
point
than
any
other
point,
and
if
we
can
resolve
that
by
including
this
buffer
or
the
council
will
include
this
buffer,
that
may
go
away
towards
settling
the
public
somewhat.
M
I
just
think
this
is
a
really
important
issue
to
the
public
and
we
make
a
mistake
and
and
not
being
firm
about
this
point
in
terms
of
trying
to
settle
the
public.
D
A
Can
I
get
a
show
of
hands
to
see
who
who
is
in
agreement
with
requesting
a
buffer
between
schools
and
parks
or
just
schools?
Sorry
parks
was
not
included
in
this
request.
A
One
two
three,
four,
five,
one:
six:
okay,
so
that
is
not
a
quorum
and
for
being
considered.
D
D
A
Okay,
so
it
sounds
like
the
majority
of
neighborhoods
are
wanting
to
request
a
buffer
between
schools
and
shelters
still,
and
I
do
want
to
let
you
all
know
that
that
would
be
probably
it
would
sorry
and
already
around.
Is
it
measure
96?
A
I
can't
remember
what
major
it
would
actually
enact
if,
if
council
were
to
actually
consider
including
a
buffer.
P
Yeah,
the
if
I
can
I'll
try
to
break
it
down,
so
it's
at
least
arguable,
and
I
think
most
likely
that
imposition
of
a
buffer
requirement
would
be
considered
a
sort
of
a
further
restriction
on
this
use
than
currently
exists,
and
that's
in
part
because
again,
shelters
are
allowed
already
in
residential
neighborhoods
subject
to
a
conditional
use
permit,
but
without
without
any
required
buffering
distance
between
the
shelter
and
schools.
P
So
if,
if
the
city,
through
these
development
code,
amendments
instituted
or
introduced
a
buffer
requirement,
it
at
least
arguably
restricts
the
uses
of
these
properties
from
what
is
currently
allowed
and
would
require,
what's
called
measure,
56
notice
to
affected
property
owners.
So
that's
a
procedural
technical
issue
that
could
come
up.
I
mean
I,
I
won't
say
that
on
its
own
is
a
reason
not
to
do
it.
P
I'll
be
frank,
I
have
some
other
concerns
about
it,
because,
because
it
is
a
further
restriction
on
what
is
already
allowed,
there
are
going
to
have
to
be.
If
the
city
council
decides
to
include.
P
I
so
far
have
not
heard
anything.
I've
certainly
heard
that
many
people
in
the
community
think
this
is
important.
Many
people
want
this,
but
that
on
its
own,
doesn't
provide
a
legal
basis
to
write
a
finding
supporting
that
restriction.
So
if
this
is
discussed
at
council,
I
think
part
of
the
discussion
is
going
to
be
at
least
from
the
legal
department.
P
We
need
a
factual
basis
for
why
we
would
include
this
restriction
again.
Many
people
are
concerned
about
this,
but
I
don't
know
that
I've
heard
a
factual
basis
as
to
why
this
is
necessary,
especially
considering
that
these
uses
are
currently
allowed
right
next
to
a
school
if
they
meet
the
other
requirements
of
the
code.
So.
P
K
Sorry,
ian
just
a
clarification
so
currently
they
are
allowed
in
these
areas.
However,
aren't
they
also
required
to
give
the
neighbors
notice
of
any
additional
development.
P
Going
back
a
couple
of
questions,
if,
if
we
are
talking
about
a
facility
under
these
proposed
code,
amendments
assuming
it's
new,
so
something
that
is
going
in
from
scratch-
that's
a
type
2
application
that
would
also
include
notice
to
neighbors
some
some
additions
or
expansions
of
existing
facilities
would
only
be
a
type
1
application.
In
those
cases
there
is
no
notice
but
putting
something
starting
from
scratch.
Under
the
new
code,
if
it's
adopted
would
be
subject
to
a
type
2
process
with
notice.
K
So
I
guess
what
I'm
advocating
is
that
we
not
change
if
it
is
already
allowed
in
the
code,
which
is
fine,
but
you
still
have
to
require
notice.
I
don't
think
that
we
should
do
anything
different
and
then,
if
it
is
a
new
development,
I
think
that
there
should
be
notice
to
the
neighbors.
P
Yeah
and
there
there
there
would
be
under
existing
code
in
a
residential
neighborhood
if
somebody
applied
for
a
shelter
they'd
have
to
they'd,
have
to
obtain
a
conditional
use
permit
and
go
through
that
process,
which
would
does
involve
notice
to
neighbors.
A
So
lisa
are
you
suggesting
that
we
maintain
the
request
for
a
buffer
or
that.
K
I
still
think
that
we
need
a
buffer,
but
as
long
as
we
have
noticed
to
the
neighbors,
if
the
situation
is
changing
so
that
people
have
an
opportunity
to
weigh
in,
I
think
that's
important.
K
A
K
K
P
So
first
first
question:
the
type
1
procedure
which
does
not
involve
notice
is
that
is
going
to
apply
to
certain
sort
of
certain
types
of
expansions
and
changes.
P
To
the
property
for
expansion
of
an
existing
outdoor
shelter
use
so
so
certain
existing
uses,
there
will
be
only
a
type
1
process
with
no
notice
to
neighbors.
P
On
the
other
hand,
if
it's
any
other
shelter,
including
any
outdoor
shelters
on
vacant
properties,
those
will
have
noticed
because
those
will
have
to
go
through
a
type
two
process.
So,
under
the
code
amendments
the
the
proposed
code
amendments,
if
they
pass
some
will
be
type
one.
Some
will
be
type
two.
If
we're
gonna
break
it
down
and
sort
of
oversimplify
it.
The
the
new
things
that
are
starting
from
scratch
will
be
subject
to
a
type
two
process
with
notice.
Q
A
Okay,
so
then
lisa
is
suggesting
the
buffer
between
schools,
but
also
including
that
the
expansions
of
existing
uses
should
include
notice
to
neighbors
so
you're,
suggesting
that
those
become
a
type
2
instead
of
a
type
1,
as
proposed.
A
A
E
Yeah
does
a
type
2
process
implied
that
there's
a
requisite
number
of
the
neighbors
that
have
to
approve.
A
Not
at
all
type
two
is
for
the
information
of
neighbors.
It
also
provides
them
an
opportunity
to
comment,
but,
as
we
learned
through
our
landis
education
process,
unless
it's
against
the
code
that
might
not
it's,
it's
not
necessarily
an
opportunity
for
people
to
oppose
a
project.
Q
I
add
a
little
bit
sorry
because
I'm
late
or
can't
hear
me,
but
we
did
present
to
the
planning
commission
as
an
option
and
they
chose
not
to
recommend
it
to
the
city
council,
but
was
to
even
if
we
have
our
type
1
process
for
shelters
and
they
qualify.
So
maybe
it's
a
change
of
a
building
expansion
or
a
change
of
use
from
one
use
to
a
shelter,
even
if
it
would
be
a
type
1
if
it
was
in
a
residential
zone.
Q
Q
You'd
have
to
go
back
and
listen
to
the
minutes,
but
I
believe
it
was
along
the
lines
of
sending
a
notice.
But
there's
really
no.
It's
almost
like
that
notice
that
a
neighbor
gets,
but
it
provides
a
false
sense
of
like
you
have
an
opportunity
to
comment
even
through
a
type
2
process,
but
it's
clear
and
objective
standards
for
the
most
part,
there's
not
a
lot
that
you
could
oppose,
but
you
would
receive
a
notice.
Q
And
so
I
think
the
commission
was
looking
at
the
additional
time
involved
with
the
notice
requirements,
the
additional
costs
involved
with
the
notice
requirements
and
really
that
not
a
lot
for
the
public
to
gain
from
getting
the
notice
other
than
notifying
you
that
the
project
is
coming.
So
they
didn't
support
that
recommendation,
but
we
did
put
it
out
there
to
them.
N
N
I
don't
think
that
people
that
I've
spoken
with
have
a
problem
with
the
single
mom,
with
children
needing
to
be
close
to
the
school
or
someone
that
is
facing
end-of-life
care.
It's
more
a
concern
of
the
perception
of
you
know:
people
with
drug
addiction
or
participating
in
criminal
activities
or
potentially
violent
behavior.
Those
are
the
things
that
people
are
worried
about,
not
so
much
the
the
other
circumstances.
A
I
think
that's
right
elizabeth,
I
think
the
what
I
offered
earlier
is
that
those
laws
preventing
drug
use
next
to
schools
preventing
sex
offenders
from
living
next
to
schools.
Those
are
already
state
laws
in
place
and
so
changing
them
in
our
code.
I
don't
wouldn't
our
code
doesn't
supersede
the
state
so.
A
K
A
All
right,
thank
you,
so
it
sounds
like
buffer
between
schools
will
be
included.
The
notification
of
neighbors
will
not,
and
then
also,
let
me
remind
you
all-
you
all
have
neighborhood
associations
who
are
also
welcome
to
write
to
counsel
with
your
own
specific
views
and
requests
at
the
nla.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
drill
it
down
to
city-wide
issues
and
issues
that
all
of
our
neighborhood
associations
agree
on,
which
is
why
we're
having
this
conversation
today,
the
third
bullet
consider
wildfire
risk
imposed
by
some
shelter
types.
A
So
specifically,
I
heard
for
about
the
unsanctioned
camps,
so
those
properties
in
juniper
ridge,
china,
hat
second
street.
Those
are
the
the
unsanctioned
camps
when
we
say
unsanctioned
camps,
that's
what
we
mean,
also
hardship,
housing
and
outdoor
shelters,
which
could
include
temporary
heating
sources
that
can
cause
danger
to
the
surrounding
neighbors.
A
I
will
offer
to
the
group
that
our
council
is
just
going
to
be
discussing
unsanctioned
camping
policy
right
of
now
right
now
we
have
the
policy
for
camps
within
the
right-of-way
and
they
are
going
to
be
delving
into
that
further
and
having
more
of
a
community
conversation
about
how
to
respond
to
unsanctioned
camps,
so
that
is
coming,
but
as
far
as
wildfire
risk
goes,
can
I
get
a
show
of
hands
of
who
wants
to
include
this
bullet
on
in
our
response
to
counsel?
O
Michaela,
yes,
of
course-
and
I
I
really
don't
know,
but
I
would
assume
we
already
have
some
some
rules
on
the
books
about
making
sure
that
places
aren't
going
to
cause
a
fire
risk
to
their
to
their
neighborhood
or
adjacent
yeah.
A
A
Right
so
ian
and
pauline,
I
think
we
do
have
a
fires
in
the
right-of-way
policy.
I'm
not
sure
if
the
shelter
code
specifically
speaks
to
any
wildfire.
P
Yeah
I'd
have
to
defer
to
colleen.
I
don't
recall
that
being
addressed
in
the
code
other
than
I
know.
We
have
a
provision
in
the
language
about
shelters
needing
to
meet
all
applicable
requirements
from
all
authorities,
including
fire
department,
building
safety
and
environmental
health.
So
we
have
a
catch-all
requirement
in
in
the
proposed
language
that
any
proposed
shelter
has
to.
E
E
P
That's
in
there
we
in
the
proposed
development
code
changes.
We
also
separate
from
the
shelter
code
separate
from
the
development
code.
We
have
flammable
vegetation
standards
that
the
city's
code
enforcement
department
or
division
enforces
to
mitigate
fire
hazards
around
town.
So
that's
just
another
way
that
we
we
address
it
in
addition
to
what
the
fire
department
normally
does.
So
we
do
have
a
catch-all
requirement.
I
think,
in
the
code
language
requiring
it
to
meet
any
shelter
to
meet
the
fire
department's
standards
to
make
it
fire
safe.
F
I
just
didn't
know
what
consider
the
risk
means.
It
seems
like
that's
pretty
vague
and
then
the
other
question
that
I
have
is
what
I
understand
is
most
of
the
wild
fires
that
have
happened
are
specific
to
uns,
sanctioned
camps.
Is
that
not
correct.
A
Considering
that
hardship,
housing
is
actually
medical,
housing
and
or
medical
hardship,
housing,
and
that
has
not
been
widely
utilized
and.
I
A
Shelters
really,
we
only
have
one
right
now,
which
is
the
veterans
village,
if
that's
considered
an
outdoor
shelter,
which
I
believe
it
is,
we
haven't,
had
issues
with
them,
so
it
is
just
unsanctioned
camps.
At
this
point.
F
So
what
would
what
would
people
like?
I
guess
I
still
don't
understand
what
that
means.
So
with
unsanctioned
camps,
what
would
taking
into
consideration
wildfowl
fires
mean.
A
Yeah,
I
think
that's
a
great
point.
I
think
unsanctioned
camps,
I'm
not
sure
the
hardship,
housing
and
outdoor
shelters.
I
know
we
had
concerns
about
the
use
of
basically
temporary
heating
sources,
so
plug-ins
being
attached
to
houses
and
if
that's
going
to
cause
a
risk,
the
maintenance
of
property,
but
we
could
clarify
that
we
could
drill
down
on
it.
A
If,
if
that's
something
that
people
feel
passionate
about,
but
we
just
heard
from
ian
that
the
code
already
has
a
catch-all
for
fire
risk
requiring
that
these
shelters
be
up
to
code,
and
you
heard
from
me
that
the
city
council
is
considering
updating
their
unsanctioned
camping
policy,
which
we
could
propose
includes
some
of
that
wildfire
mitigation.
I
found
the
word
it's
mitigation.
M
Okay,
can
I
go
ahead
with
a
quick
thought?
Yeah
yeah.
I
share
karen's
concern
about
the
vagueness
of
this
third
bullet
and
what
that
means-
and
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
objectivize
it
by
sort
of
linking
it
to
the
first
bullet,
to
say
that
management
of
these
shelters
should
be
trained,
and
certainly
any
residents
of
the
shelters
should
be
trained
in
fire
safety
as
part
of
their
duties
as
managers
of
the
shelters.
A
Okay,
all
right,
let's,
let's
just
do
a
quick
show
of
hands
who
would
like
to
speak
to
wildfire
risk
in
our
response
to
council.
A
Chris
is
your,
is
your
hand
still
raised,
or
is
that
from
before?
Oh.
O
Awesome
I
just
want
to
clarify
michaela,
I'm
not
again,
I'm
not
pro
wildfire.
I
just.
I
just
feel
that
the
requirements
are
already
there,
and
so
this
is.
This
is
unnecessary
for
us
to
request,
because,
as
ian
explained,
it's
already
included
yeah.
That.
M
Can
I
say
one
more
thing
before
we
do
that?
I
I
just
think
there's
probably
if
I
may
sort
of
belabor
this
point.
I
think
there's
no
bigger
risk
to
our
community
than
fire
and
I
think
most
folks
recognize
that
in
the
city
and
I
think,
every
opportunity
we
have
to
suppress
that
to
not.
M
It's
a
wasted
opportunity
not
to
to
make
that
point
now
that
we're
creating
these
shelters
and
moving
in
that
direction.
Thank.
E
K
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
add.
If
anything
I
feel
like,
we
need
to
be
stronger
about
this
and
I
think
we
need
to
somehow
even
create
additional
restrictions
around
propane
tanks
and
minimizing
fire
risk.
We're
really
putting
a
lot
of
people
in
danger
by
allowing
the
continued
use
of
these
unsanctioned
camps,
and
you
know
this
is
getting
pretty
scary.
K
A
I
would
agree,
but
I
think
that
again,
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
two
different
things.
There's
unsanctioned
camps,
which
this
shelter
code
does
not
talk,
speak
to
in
any
way,
and
so
for
the
managed
shelters.
We
would
be
asking
for
wildfire
fire
mitigation
efforts
and
we've
had
two
proposals.
One
is
that
we're
asking
to
train
the
volunteers
and
the
tenants
of
the
camp
with
wildfire
mitigation
strategies?
A
The
other
is
that
we,
I
guess
I
we
didn't
come
up
with
anything
just
that
we
asked
them
to
consider
the
risks
or,
as
lisa
said,
prohibit
some
sort
of
sort
of
heating
elements
or.
N
A
A
N
Q
I
just
want
to
add
so
if
you
move
forward
with
some
discussion
on
this
and
ian
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
the
proposed
amendments
are
specific
to
the
site
and
the
structures
not
to
the
people
or
their
training
and
it's
going
to
be
bend.
Development
code
doesn't
regulate
the
type
of
training
that
the
managers
may
or
may
not
have
for
the
shelter.
Q
Q
So
there
are
the
regulations
in
there.
But
if
you
are
going
to
pursue
this
a
little
bit
further
again,
don't
I'd
recommend
you
don't
focus
on
the
the
training
or
regulating
the
people.
There.
P
Yeah,
I
was,
I
was
holding
a
similar
comment
to
see
where
the
discussion
went,
but
to
put
it
another
way,
this
is
the
development
code.
It's
about
regulating
the
uses
of
property.
It's
it's
less
about
detailed
operations
and
activities
on
the
property.
I
mean
it's
not
always
a
an
incredibly
bright
line
between
the
two,
but
when
we
start
talking
about
requiring
training,
it
starts
to
feel
to
me
like
an
operational
issue
and
less
like
the
development
code
and.
E
N
H
I
Yeah
I
wanted
to
thank
ian
for
saying
clarifying
that
there's.
A
lot
of
the
discussion
is
about
sanctioned
versus
unsanctioned
and
I
think
the
concern
and
the
things
that
we
see
visually
are
then
sanctioned.
So
there's
a
lot
of
concern,
but
as
we
learn
more
about
what
the
sanctioned
camps
are
all
about,
then
that's
what
this
is
for.
So
thank
you
for,
for
that.
A
Okay,
one
more
time
can
I
get
a
show
of
hands
of
who's
comfortable
with
just
being
okay,
with
the
current
catch-all
regulations
that
are
already
included
in
the
code.
A
Correct
because
we
agree
that
the
code
already
meets
our
concerns.
Okay,
I
agree
with
that.
Okay,
apologies
for
my
shaky
voting,
don't
often
lead
okay
and
then
so
that
is
voted
and
it
passed.
So
no,
we
are
not
going
to
include
any
further
requests.
What
I
would
I
I
also
wanted
to
include
this
idea.
This
came
from
karen
also
she's
full
of
good
ideas.
A
When
I
called
her,
I
thought,
even
though
I
didn't
talk
to
many
of
you
about
it,
including
neighborhood
associations
and
the
outreach
and
communications
about
good
neighbor
guidelines
would
be
good.
A
The
code
right
now
just
says,
adjacent
neighbors
would
be
included
in
that
conversation
and
so
making
the
request
that
neighborhood
associations
also
be
included
in
that
section
of
the
code
and
again,
as
I
mentioned
here,
this
just
helps
the
neighborhood
associations
remain
informed,
so
you'll
know
what's
happening
with
those
neighborhoods
or
sorry
with
those
shelters,
and
you
can
provide
responses
to
your
members,
hopefully,
because
you'll
be
in
the
know
about
what's
happening
there.
A
C
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
think
that
is
an
excellent
idea.
It
also
is
kind
of
a
selling
point
for
neighborhood
associations
that
you
know.
If
there's
a
shelter
going
in
you
know
you
may
not
get
notice
of
it,
but
if
this
passes
then
the
neighborhood
association
definitely
will
and
they
can
make
sure
that
their
their
members
are
notified
as
well,
so
so
in
cases
of
type
one.
This
is
kind
of
another
path
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
marketing
point
for
neighborhood
associations.
So
thank
you
for
that
comment.
A
Okay,
so
with
these
points
in
mind,
what
we
need
now
is
a
motion
I
would
suggest
just
for
kathy
and
summer,
once
her
she's
done
with
her
family
emergency
and
to
put
together
this
in
a
letter,
format
to
then
provide
to
counsel-
and
it
will
include
all
of
the
points
that
we've
discussed
and
agreed
upon
today.
A
B
A
I'm
happy
to
try
and
take
less
than
20
minutes.
So
with
this
topic,
I
wanted
to
bring
up
the
roadmap,
and
this
was
included
in
your
packets
for
the
meeting.
Essentially,
what
I
wanted
to
really
talk
about
is
some
of
the
items
that
we
are
falling
behind
on
as
far
as
scheduling,
and
I
don't
think
that
it's
a
bad
thing
there's
been
some
stuff,
that's
out
of
our
control
as
to
why
we're
falling
behind
on
those
items.
A
So,
let's
see,
I
think
the
best
way
to
do
this
is
to
go
through
outstanding
topics.
A
So,
for
those
of
you
who
did
not
realize
at
the
bottom
of
the
road
map
is
two
tabs
and
the
second
tab
is
the
outstanding
topics
tab.
So
this
is
all
of
the
topics
that
we
have
that
are
related
to
the
nla.
A
These
come
from
the
council
goals,
the
strategic
plan
that
the
nla
put
together,
as
well
as
the
recruitment
and
engagement
plan,
which
the
mayor
asked
us
to
pause
and
create,
and
then
the
community
concerns
so
items
that
are
brought
up
during
our
representative
reports
and
public
comment
that
have
been
sponsored
by
the
nla,
as
in
we've
agreed
that
we
want
to
look
further
into
these
issues.
A
So
the
way
that
this
is
set
up
is
it's
kind
of
in
priority
order.
Obviously
we
do
need
to
respond
to
council
rules,
first
and
foremost
as
an
advisory
committee
to
council,
and
with
that
we
also
have
our
strategic
plan,
so
over
here,
I'm
going
to
zoom
in
so
that
you
guys
can
actually
see
what
I'm
talking
about.
A
There
are
several
items
here:
column
13
through
18.-
these
are
all
on
hold
and
those
are
the
ones
that
you're
going
to
see
on
the
last
sheet
that
speaks
to
why
we're
falling
behind
in
those
areas,
and
so
the
the
first
couple
have
to
do
with
the
land
use
education
efforts,
the
community
development
department.
A
Last
year
they
were
going
to
be
hiring
a
new
communications
person
to
be
in
the
community
development
department
that
was
going
to
take
on
this
land
use
project,
and
that
has
not
happened
because
we
had
to
have
have
had
some
turnover
within
the
city
and
department
heads
changing,
and
it
is
just
now
going
to
be
posted,
hopefully
by
the
end
of
the
month,
and
so
we
hope
to
have
a
new
person
who
can
speak
to
land
use,
helping
us
follow
what's
happening
at
the
state,
etc,
and
so
at
that
point,
I'm
going
to
be
working
with
them
to
hand
off
the
land
use
project
and
I
believe,
we're
going
to
be
redoing
that
land
use
survey
to
say,
hey.
A
A
We
have
a
survey
that
allows
us
to
rate
the
scale
of
knowledge
of
how
people
know
about
land
use
so
before
we
took
it
before
we
had
any
of
these
materials
out
there
and
we're
gonna.
Do
it
again
so
again
just
waiting
for
that
position
to
be
filled
so
that
we
can
continue
on
the
other
item
that
is
on
hold
and
was
our
wildfire
resiliency
education
efforts.
A
We've
been
waiting
on
a
state
bill
to
pass
that
has
a
lot
to
do
with
wildfire
mitigation
and
that
has
recently
been
passed.
I
believe
it's
going
to
be
going
to
our
fire
department
soon
and
they're
gonna,
probably
revive
that
wildfire
resiliency
committee
as
they
move
forward
and
work
on
the
council
goals
related
to
that
project.
A
So,
in
the
past,
sean
mcfadden
represented
us
on
that
wildfire,
resiliency
steering
committee
and
that
that
was
put
on
pause,
and
I
will
let
you
know
as
soon
as
we
can
get
back
on
into
that
project,
and
then
there
are
a
few
more
items.
These
ones
are
have
to
do
with
the
boundaries
work.
A
So
if
you'll
remember
last
may,
when
we
were
having
the
conversation
about
what
should
we
include
in
our
strategic
plan,
we
did
not
yet
have
council
goals,
and
so
we
included
boundary
adjustments
in
our
strategic
plan
with
the
intent
of
being
able
to
to
focus
on
that
as
a
project,
but
it
did
not
make
it
into
council
rules
and
so
that
fall
moves
it
down
on
our
list
of
priorities.
I
do
think
that
there
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
look
into
boundaries
following
this
assessment.
A
The
assessment's
telling
us
a
lot
about
what
we
need
to
know
about
neighborhood
associations,
and
in
may
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
you
with
xavi
and
we're
going
to
share
with
you
everything
that
we've
learned
from
those
assessments
as
they're
finally
kind
of
wrapping
up
on
the
tail
end
here,
and
so
once
we
have
those
results,
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
talk
about
a
bigger
boundaries
conversation
as
well
as
working
with
the
hrec
and
other
equity
and
inclusion
department
staff
to
come
up
with
plans
for
how
we
do
better
outreach
and
bridge
those
connections
between
community
partners
and
our
neighborhood
associations.
A
So
those
are
the
items
we
are
behind
on
the
items
that
we
are
in
progress
on
all
have
to
do
with
the
assessment.
Surprise
surprise.
So
that
is
what
we're
mainly
focusing
our
research
on,
or
resources
on,
and
then
what
I
wanted
to
bring
to
the
group
today
is:
there
are
a
few
things
that
we
could
be
doing
as
working
groups.
A
A
But
we
have
an
outreach
and
engagement
working
group
that
could
work
on
some
of
our
our
action
plans
like
coming
up
with
job
descriptions
for
neighborhood
association
boards,
identifying
best
practices
used
by
different
cities
for
how
we
can
do
outreach,
engagement
and
then
supporting
the
city
and
creating
additional
opportunities
and
that's
kind
of
an
ongoing
project.
A
But
we
are
going
to
have
this
big
conversation
about
unsanctioned
camping
and
that
I
believe
the
the
nas
will
be
included
on.
So
those
are
the
outreach
and
engagement
ideas.
The
policies
and
procedures
group
could
also
be
working.
So
we
have
a
a
couple
of
items
that
we
were
hoping
to.
Work
on.
One
was
to
create
a
coordinated
process
for
passing
along
relevant
and
like
timely
information
between
neighborhoods
in
the
city
specifically
related
to
safety,
so
that
would
be
developing
a
process.
A
The
other
is
to
consider
referring
issues
that
do
not
meet
nla
objectives
and
so
coming
up
with
a
process
for
how
we
work
with
our
other
partners,
such
as
the
neighborhood
association
roundtable,
to
pass
items
their
way
when
they
don't
meet
the
charter
of
vnla.
And
what
we're
supposed
to
do.
A
And
then
I
believe
and
there's
a
couple
other
items
to
defining
meaningful
community
engagement
is
another
item
that
we
wanted
to
have
a
discussion
with
the
neighborhood
associations
about,
as
well
as
defining
the
neighborhood
association
purpose,
and
I
think
that
that
comes
following
the
assessment
results.
So,
as
you
can
see,
we
have
a
lot
on
our
plate
and
just
not
enough
meetings
and
so
one
I
wanted
to
see
how
we
felt
about
reviving
some
of
those
working
groups
and
two.
A
I
wanted
you
to
have
an
idea
of
the
layout
of
the
land
and
how
we
choose
to
do
special
projects
when
we
have
this
entire
strategic
plan
in
front
of
us
and
then
also
just
figure
out
how
we
can
fit
in
some
of
these
other
topics
that
we've
wanted
to
include,
and
I'm
adding
one
now,
because
I'm
realizing
it's
not
on
here
but
to
shoot.
South
canyon
is
one
topic
that
has
come
up.
A
That's
that
coid
property
that
the
south
south
west
bend
century
west
and
southern
crossing
have
all
been
talking
about,
and
they've
asked
for
an
opportunity
for
this
group
to
learn
about
that
area,
so
that
you
have
information
to
share
with
your
neighborhood
associations,
and
we
also
have
been
asked
if
we
can
be
make
room
for
the
stevens
road
tracked.
Conversation
which
is
coming
up
so
I'll
have
to
say,
there's
a
lot
going
on
and
we
only
have
so
many
meetings,
and
so
I'm
asking
for
your
help
prioritizing
these
things.
A
The
first
question
that
I
would
ask
or
pose
to
the
group
is
for
these
more
land
use,
heavy
topics
to
shoot
south
canyon
and
the
stevens
road
tract
is
their
willingness
to
have
an
additional
meeting
where
we
just
focus
on
those
items
as
an
nla,
and
this
would
probably
not,
if
not
we're,
probably
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
to
either
item
until
june,
and
at
that
point,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
additional
sorry
sean.
A
A
A
F
Okay,
so
there
was
a
price
presentation
done
at
an
art
on
deschutes,
south
canyon
and
the
different
nas
that
were
represented
there
actually
requested
that
we
come
to
the
nla.
F
The
trail
connectivity
is
is
a
key
part
of
why
we
want
to
shoot
south
canyon
preserved
and
trail
connectivity
throughout
the
city
is
a
city-wide
issue.
That's
that's
a
major
reason.
Is
it
ties
into
it?
Another
reason
is
with
the
climate
changes
and
the
impact
on
it
and
that
keeping
land
a
large
chunk
of
land
is
really
key
and
the
third
is
corpine
is
in
southern
crossing.
F
That's
the
dense
development,
and
what
we
want
to
do
is
is
forward
the
thought
that
yes,
we
we
can
accept
dense
development,
but
we
also
have
to
preserve
this
outstanding
piece
of
property
to
kind
of
offset
this
development
as
well,
and
the
time
that
we're
given
two
minutes
today
doesn't
give
us
enough
time
to
go
into
detail
about
any
of
this
or
answer
any
questions
and-
and
I
know
switching
to
the
stevens
land
track
our
land
use
chair
has
raised
a
lot
of
questions
about
that,
and
we,
I
don't,
have
a
place
to
go
to
ask
those
questions
so
having
a
meeting
where
we
can
learn
about
both
projects
and
ask
questions
and
then
see
if
our
nads
will
support
those
projects
or
not
support
them
to
me
is
important
and
is
well
worth
the
time.
A
C
I
guess
I
did
something
but
yeah,
I
think
that's
a
good
idea
as
well.
Definitely
you
know
very
important
land
use
issues
and
I
think
education
would
be
good
for
you
know
for
the
nla,
because
maybe
we
need
to
come
up
with
a
position
on
these
to
help
out.
C
You
know
those
nas
where
the
land
use
is
happening
thanks.
N
And
I
would
just
add
to
to
karen's
point
in
that
the
deschutes
south
canyon
is
used
by
residents,
people
that
live
in
bend
all
over
bend.
So
it's
even
beyond
the
three
n
a's
that
are
sort
of
bordering
that
property.
N
It
is
a
land
use
issue
that
that
ultimately
affects
everyone.
People
drive
to
to
that
property
to
to
hike
and
bike
and
spend
time
outdoors.
They
they
come
from
other
parts
of
bend
and
the
trail
connectivity
is
really
impressive.
G
Yeah
old
man
has
discussed
it
and
we're
right
there
with
southern
crossing
that
that
coid
should
be
preserved.
G
We
agree
with
that
tidally
and
we're
also
very
in
favor
of
the
corpine
density
thing,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
two
minutes,
so
yeah
we've
thought
about
it,
we're
in
favor
of
trying
to
preserve
the
southern
canyon.
A
Okay,
quick
show
of
hands
on
who
would
be
willing
to
attend
an
additional
hour-long
meeting
on
the
two
topics.
A
Okay,
I'm
seeing
eight
that's
over
well
over
majority,
so
I
will
work
on
getting
a
doodle
poll
so
that
we
can
schedule
those
two
topics
and
there
won't
be
any
other
business
unless
it's
urgent.
A
Okay,
the
second
question
to
you
all
was
if
there
was
any
interest
in
restarting
one
of
the
working
groups-
and
I
know
that
we
probably
don't
remember
what
working
groups
we
were
even
on,
because
the
last
time
that
we
had
one
was
quite
a
while
ago.
I
we
can
just
completely
start
over
with
these,
and
so
I
would
say,
if
there's
a
project
that
you
feel
particularly
compelled
to
support
that's
on
this
strategic
plan
and
has
a
working
group
next
to
it.
A
Then
please,
let
me
know
I'm
not
going
to
ask
you
to
do
that
right
now,
but
do
go
back
and
take
a
look
at
it
and
if
there's
something
that
you
want
to
sponsor
as
an
nla
rep,
that
means
you
would
be
saying.
I
will
lead
the
group
and
we'll
meet
offline
or
sorry
not
offline.
It's
still
public
meetings,
but
in
a
separate
meeting
in
a
smaller
group
to
come
up
with
these
plans
and
then
eventually
bring
them
back
to
the
nla.
A
A
D
What
you
or
the
staff
by
thinking
about
what
needs
to
be
done.
A
F
A
F
True
and
I
I'm
interested
in
outreach
and
engagement
just
because
I
know
for
our
own
neighborhood
association-
that's
a
key
issue,
but
I'm
not
if
we
can
make
something
easy
to
participate
in
and
do
and
the
simpler.
It
is
the
better
that
would
be
useful
to
me.
A
Thank
you,
I
think
that's
helpful,
and
just
so
you
know
scheduling
and
timing.
We
will
try
to
do
the
land
use
stuff
this
week
or
sorry
this
month,
not
this
week,
and
then
we
will
look
at
doing
the
working
group
starting
those
in
may.
So
after
the
shelter
code,
conversation
has
concluded
but
again
having
a
plan
to
restart
some
of
those
groups
and
get
some
of
our
strategic
plan.
Work
done.
A
Okay,
so
I'll
send
this
out
with
some
more
specific
instructions,
but
I
did
want
to
walk
you
through
it
before
I
threw
it
at
you
and
then
asked
you
to
respond.
So
with
that
I
am
done
kathy.
You
can
have
it.
I
do
not
own
the
next
session.
A
B
So
we
have
liaison
updates.
This
consists
of
first
tax
exemptions,
advisory
board.
This
says
karen
bergsvick
next
to
that
and
then
coming
up
next
after
that
is
nart
with
lisa
muscle.
So
let's
go.
F
F
There
seems
to
be
wide
support,
pretty
much
from
everyone
for
the
non-profit
tax
exemption,
the
mukti,
the
multi-unit
property
tax
exemption
that
had
the
most
discussion
about
it.
We
did
agree
upon
the
committee
made
the
will
made
the
recommendations
to
the
council
that
it
be
for
three
or
more
units
it'd
be
multi-story.
F
It
can't
be
vacation
rentals,
but
from
the
neighborhood
perspective,
I
think
what
the
public
benefit
I
was
in.
I
was
encouraging
affordable
housing
to
be
mandatory,
one
of
the
public
benefits
and
the
rest
of
the
committee
did
not
agree
with
me
so
going
forward.
It
will
be
an
optional.
F
The
recommendation
is
for
it
to
be
one
of
the
options
that
a
developer
can
choose
rather
than
a
priority,
and
I
anyway,
I
thought
you
as
people
that
hear
a
lot
about
affordable
housing.
We'd
want
to
know
that,
but
the
other
committee
members
have
their
reasons
for
not
supporting
that,
but
that's
kind
of
the
update
on
the
the
property
tax
exemptions,
any
questions.
F
It
was
interesting
being
a
layperson
and
not
knowing
anything
about
development
codes
and
development
and
having
developers
on
that
committee.
I
think
I
was
morgan
and
I
were
the
only
kind
of
lay
people
on
that
committee.
It
was
overwhelming
to
try
to
learn
and
assimilate
everything
that
they
were
talking
about,
but
I'm
glad
that
we
had
representation
there
and
that
we
were
able
to
speak.
A
Thank
you,
and
I
really
I
appreciated
your
feedback
about
that,
because
I
think
it'll
help
going
into
some
of
these
more
complex
projects,
definitely
to
to
prepare
those
nla
reps
that
are
going
to
be
in
those
conversations
and
maybe
have
some
sit-downs
beforehand,
so
that
we
can
get
out
all
the
questions
like
what
do
all
these
acronyms
mean
and
what?
What
is
a
muppet
those
kind
of
things.
So
I
I
appreciate
you
guys
being
willing
to
attend
those
meetings
and
and
representing
the
nla.
Thank
you.
A
Great
and
lisa
is
no
longer
with
us,
so
I
think
if
there
was
there
anyone
else
who
attended
the
neighborhood
association
roundtable
this
month,
kathy
you're
muted.
I.
A
Okay,
no
problem:
I
think
oh
elizabeth.
N
I
I
actually
attended
not
as
a
one
of
the
reps
but
just
to
to
observe,
and
it
was
the
a
big
part
of
it
was
the
presentation
about
the
south,
deschutes
south
canyon
and
the
connectivity
of
the
trails
and
other
factors
involving
that
land.
So
so
that
was
a
big
portion
of
their
meeting.
Okay.
F
The
other
part
was
the
climate
control
person
from
the
state
explaining
the
climate
rules.
I
attended
the
meeting
also,
and
so
that
was
interesting
to
hear
from
the
state
person
on
implementation
of
the
rules.
F
I
would
say
if
you
can
get
a
copy
of
the
minutes
that
might
be
helpful
or
have
your
the
nart
representative
forward
them
to
you.
So
you
can
hear
what
the
state
person
was
saying,
but
basically
there's
no
coordination
at
the
state
level.
Regarding
the
different
agencies
that
are
implementing
these
different
roles,
I
that
would
be
the
gist
of
what
I
learned.
A
Thank
you
for
sharing
that,
and
I
think
lisa
spoke
to
the
town
halls
that
are
happening
at
the
end
of
the
month.
So
monday
april,
25th
and
wednesday
april
27th
there's
going
to
be
two
town
halls,
both
at
caldera
high
school
and
it's
gonna
have
a
panel,
a
panel
of
individuals,
including
chief
krantz
and
councilor
perkins,
to
respond
answer,
questions
on
on
houselessness
and
shelter
code,
in
particular,.
F
Is
there
I
don't
know
lisa's
not
here,
but
is
there
any
way
we
could
get
a
response
to
the
question
about
the
budget
because
I'm
getting
asked
that
question
too
about
what
is
the
budget
and
and
on
next
door?
There's
a
gofundme
page.
That's
part
of
the
ask-
and
I
know
I've
asked
lisa
directly,
but
if
we
can,
as
a
group,
try
to
get
them
for
information
too,
that
would
be
helpful.
F
A
I
haven't
heard
anything
on
that
yet,
but
I
did
see
that
so
if
I
see
lisa,
I
will
ask
her
before
those
events.