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C
A
A
So
I
want
to
let
you
know
for
this
meeting.
We
usually
have
public
comment.
At
this
time.
We've
decided
to
move
that
to
later
in
the
agenda.
A
We're
going
to
do
that
right
before
the
shelter
code
discussion
and
the
city's
legal
department
has
asked
me
to
read
this
statement,
and
it
says
we
understand,
there's
a
strong
public
interest
in
the
shelter
code,
amendments
that
are
working
their
way
through
the
legislative
land
use
process.
At
this
point,
the
planning
commission
record
has
closed.
A
A
E
Assumptions
with
a
kind
of
a
survey
out
to
all
13
nas
and
have
them
fill
in
what
they
thought
was
the
most
important
I
just
wanted
the
status
of
it.
That's
all.
Thank
you.
D
We're
gonna
talk
about
that
in
the
presentation
in
just
a
little
bit
so
you'll
get
your
update.
A
G
Let
me
I'm
sorry
I'm
coming
over
from
another
meeting
and
I
still
look
at
myself,
but
I
have
to
find
my
note
to
put
my
head
in
your
face.
I
so
apologize.
G
A
D
D
Chair
sears,
I
was
just
going
to
say
we
can
talk
about
the
nla
handbook
and
then
maybe
return
to
the
mayor.
Yeah.
That's
fine!.
A
H
D
C
D
So,
just
to
give
you
kind
of
an
update
on
why
you
saw
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance
handbook
in
this
month's
packet.
That
is
something
that
had
been
identified
on
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance,
strategic
plan,
and
so
that
was
one
item
that
I
was
able
to
pull
together
as
staff
grab
all
the
things
that
I
thought
a
committee
would
want
to
know
and
put
them
into
one
place.
D
This
is
also
a
document
that
other
committees
may
be
using
for
their
for
their
committees,
and
so
it
would
be
tailored
to
each
advisory
committee,
but
this
essentially
was
the
first
time
that
we've
put
what
I
would
call
the
nla
orientation
into
a
actual
book
that
you
can
reference
throughout
your
appointment
on
the
nla,
and
so
what
I'm
hoping
to
hear
from
you
is.
Was
it
helpful?
Did
you
learn
things
that
you
didn't
know
about
the
nla?
D
Were
there
things
or
questions
that
came
up
as
you
were
going
through
it
that
weren't
answered
in
it
and
then
just
generally
was
there
anything
that
you
think
would
be
helpful
to
include
that
was
not
there
or
just
I
guess,
just
thoughts.
So
I'm
I'm
open
to
all
the
feedback
and
please
feel
free
to
unmute
yourself
and
speak.
I
Well,
I
have
a
problem
with
the
map.
The
map
shows
old
farm,
doesn't
show
old
farm
going
down
to
the
urban
growth
boundary.
D
Okay
and
that's
one-
we
might
need
to
talk
about
later
dave
so
that
I
can
get
the
background
on
it.
I
know
that
I've
seen
yours
and
we're
not
allowed
to
include
boundaries
that
are
not
annexed
into
the
city,
yet
in
neighborhood
associations,
and
so
my
my
guess
would
be
that
that's
why
it
doesn't
show
it
going
down
to
the
urban
growth
boundary,
because
some
of
those
areas
are
not
annexed
yet,
but
we
can
look
into
that.
Okay,
well,.
J
Cassie
cassie,
yes,
just
make
sure
I
got
the
right
one
hi.
I
just
wanted
to
say.
Thank
you.
I
think
strategic
plan
was
important
for
me
and
I
was
glad
to
hear
you
reference
it
and
I
liked
how
inclusive
this
was
since
I've
been
involved
in
this
from
the
get-go
very
thorough,
very
good
job
michaela.
Thank
you.
D
If
you
think
of
things
at
another
time
too,
I'm
open
to
feel
ongoing
feedback.
So
if
you're
learning
and
you're
like
this
would
be
really
helpful
for
the
nla
handbook,
that's
something
that
I
can
put
on
my
notes
to
morgan.
H
D
H
D
K
D
Yeah,
so
I
would
definitely
include
this
on
the
guiding
documents
section
of
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance
page,
so
that
is
down
at
the
bottom,
where
there
is
the
strategic
plan,
the
work
plan
and
some
of
our
guidelines
and
procedures.
I
would
put
it
along
with
those
documents
so
that
you
can
reference
it
as
in
la
representatives,
but
also
if
people
are
interested
in
joining
they
could
access
it
as
well.
It's
a
public
document,
so
just
whoever
could
find
it
useful,
but
my
intent
was
just
for
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance
representatives.
D
E
E
E
Yeah
it
says
representatives
can
serve
up
to
two
terms,
which
is
eight
years
now.
Some
of
us
got
appointed
midterm
and
I'm
not
sure
how
to
interpret
you
know
the
to
two
terms.
Is
it
two
full
terms
plus
a
half
term,
or
can
you
just
do
one
and
a
half
terms?
I'm
just
not
quite
sure
how
to
read
that.
Thank
you.
D
Yeah,
of
course,
I
might
ask
ian
to
help
me
with
interpretation,
but
my
understanding
is
that,
with
the
term
limits
you
were
actually
taking
over
the
term
of
the
person
in
front
of
you
so
that
you
would
be
filling
in
for
that
first
term.
Ian.
Is
that
correct?
L
Sorry,
yes,
I
think
I
wish
I
had
looked
at
this
earlier.
I'm
looking
at
the
provision
in
our
code.
That
applies
to
all
boards
and
committees,
and
I
can't
remember
michaela-
is
there
a?
Is
there
a
specific
provision
in
the
nla
code?
I'm
gonna
go
look,
but
you
may
know
better.
C
D
Yeah,
no
specifics
just
that
you
could
serve
two
terms.
L
So
here's
what
the
going
back
to
find
it!
Here's,
what
the
generally
applicable
provision
says-
and
this
applies
to
all
city
boards
and
committees-
permanent
committee
members-
can
serve
up
to
two
consecutive
full
terms
which
or
six
years,
whichever
is
greater,
not
including
any
partial
term.
If
a
member
was
appointed
in
the
middle
of
the
term.
So
those
of
you
who
have
been
appointed
to
fill
fill
a
vacancy
that
doesn't
count
towards
your
your
term
limit.
So
I
think
I
think
I
think
that
means
jim.
Yes,
that
you're
right.
E
E
Well,
my
suggestion
is
kind
of
to
revise
this.
To
make
that
point
clearer,
clarify
that
point.
Would
that
be
possible.
D
Yeah
thanks
for
bringing
it
up,
and
just
so
you
were
all
aware,
my
team
was
is
still
looking
at
this
communications
wise.
It
shouldn't
change
much,
but
they
like
to
look
at
it
and
put
their
communications
brains
in
so
that
we
have
correct
grammar
and
whatnot
before
we
make
it
public.
So
the
next
steps
would
be
for
me
to
incorporate
any
of
the
changes
that
we've
heard
here
today
or
from
my
team
and
then
get
that
back
to
you
in
final
form.
D
F
D
Sure
I
think
that
anybody
is
welcome
to
reach
out
to
me,
as
the
staff
liaison
if
they
have
concerns
questions
additions,
that
they
want
added,
and
it's
going
to
be
situational.
So,
depending
on
what
those
items
are,
we
can
talk
through
whether
or
not
they
make
sense
to
add
to
this
document.
D
Okay
summer,
I
will
give
back
to
you.
A
G
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
your
advice,
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of
take
a
moment
and
thank
all
of
you
for
taking
the
time
to
just
move
into
that
pause
space
that
we
created
sort
of
over
last
fall
and
early
this
winter
to
really
focus
on
building
capacity,
and
I
understand
that
that
is
really
beginning
to
work,
which
is
pretty
exciting,
and
you
know
looking
at
this
strategic
plan,
that's
now
in
place.
G
I
mean
it's
time
to
move
forward
and
bringing
that
sort
of
into
reality
and
working
and
resume
that
work
on
that,
and
it's
really
exciting
to
see
that
strategic
plan,
that's
also
in
alignment
with
the
council
goals.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
so
much
for
taking
that
time,
just
to
to
pause
and
reset
and
and
really
build
and
strengthen
your
base
throughout
our
community.
That's
so
important
through
our
neighborhood
association.
G
C
A
D
This
was
a
memo
that
was
prepared
by
the
legal
department
and
you
all
probably
are
aware
that
the
question
of
alternates
has
come
up
several
times,
especially
with
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance,
just
because
of
the
way
that
we're
organized
with
having
neighborhood
associations
as
part
of
our
constituent
base,
and
so
legal
has
drafted
this
memo.
L
L
This
is
not
really
an
nla
specific.
It's
not
nla
specific
advice,
because
questions
can
we
have
alternate.
Should
we
have
alternates?
If
we
do,
what
do
they
do?
What's
their
role?
To
what
extent
can
they
participate
have
come
up
over
the
years
for
various
city
committees
and
the
short,
the
short
answer
is
other
than
for
the
landmarks
commission,
which
expressly
describes
the
role
that
alternates
to
that
body?
L
Have
there
isn't
a
role
for
alternates
for
any
other
advisory
board
or
commission,
so
what
it
comes
down
to
is
if
in
the
selection
process,
if
the
mayor
and
council,
for
example,
if
there's
one
vacancy
on
a
commission-
and
there
are
three
people
that
seem
really
well
suited
to
provide
their
input,
the
mayor
and
council
can
appoint
somebody
and
keep
those
other
two
people,
it's
sort
of
like
an
eligibility
list
where
they're
in
reserve,
and
if
there
is
a
subsequent
vacancy,
they
can
perhaps
go
to
those
people
and
sort
of
more
efficiently
kind
of
bring
them
to
the
front
of
the
line
and
appoint
them
to
a
vacancy,
but
there's
no
role
for
them
in
the
interim.
L
A
H
I
was
just
curious
so,
like
I'm,
I
think
I'm
sitting
as
an
alternate
on
the
tax-exempt
working
group
working
or
do
working
groups
fall
under
this
umbrella
as
well
as.
L
L
Yeah
totally
totally
different.
That's,
I
think,
probably
what
we'd
call
a
in
fact,
I
think,
is
that
a
city
manager,
advisory
group-
it
might
be
so
yeah
a
completely
completely
different
structure
and
if
sort
of
an
ad
hoc
working
group
gets
set
up,
there
may
be
a
different
role
and
it's
sort
of
it
just
depends
how
the
group
is
set
up.
So.
C
L
K
K
I
I
don't
have
a
long
history
with
this
committee,
so
I'm
not
familiar
with
with
what
the
concern
is
here,
but
I
would
say
just
from
my
perspective
that
since
the
folks
that
fill
these
committees
myself
are
voluntary,
I
think
the
city
should
do
everything
in
its
power
to
encourage
people
to
participate
in
these
committees,
and
I
think,
having
the
possibility
of
substitutions
for
meetings
that
flow
from
the
nas
that
support
the
nla.
Rep
would
be
something
that
would
increase
the
interest
that
people
might
have
in
participating
committees.
G
Yeah
good
question
chris:
this
has
actually
been
something
that
I
in.
M
G
I
think
for
all
13
or
14
committees
that
now
kind
of
citizen
committees
that
that
serve
the
council.
What
was
happening
was
we
had
different
committees,
sort
of
using
the
word
alternate
and
and
and
having
really
different
guidelines
of
what
was
happening
and
what
happening.
And
so
then
there
was
some
confusion
about
what
the
guidelines
were.
So
this
is
sort
of
trying
to
make
sure
that
all
committees
work
with
there
are
sort
of
the
same
guidelines
with
this
with
the
same
parameters.
G
The
reason
to
have
alternates
from
I
will
speak
from
from
my
perspective
is
often
when
you
know
we
go
through
the
application
process,
which
is
you
know,
we
look
to
fill
various
seats
on
committees.
We've
been
getting
some
really
great.
We've
been
getting
some
really
good
people
who
would
really
serve
well
on
that
particular
committee
and
what
we
found
is,
even
if
they
can't
participate
in
the
conversations
there's
a
good
chance.
G
If
we
have
them
as
alternates
and
as
openings
come
forward,
they
really
are
up
to
speed
on
the
information
that
happens
over
a
continuum
of
time
and
so
they're
more
ready
to
jump
in
and
are
fully
ready
to,
go
because
they're
already
up
to
speed
and
that's
so
valuable
for
each
excuse
me
that's
so
valuable
for
each
committee
and
its
overall
effectiveness,
and
I
will
also
say
to
some
degree
chris
too.
G
It
addresses
your
question,
which
is
where
you
have
people
jumping
in
and
out
who
aren't
watching
and
consistently
informed
on
some
pretty
technical.
You
know
subjects
frankly
it
really.
I
think
the
group
as
a
whole
is
more
effective
if
the
same
person
consistently
with
carrying
that
body
of
knowledge
is
always
present
at
the
table,
because
everybody
builds
on
that
knowledge
that
much
more
quickly
and
effectively
as
they
move
through
policy
making.
So
that's
some
of
the
background
thinking
so
this
is.
F
Hi
thanks
for
calling
on
me
just
additional
background,
one
of
the
reasons
that
we've
been
asking
for
alternates-
and
this
has
come
up
many
times
since
the
inception
of
the
nla.
But
one
of
the
reasons
we've
been
asking
for
alternates
is
to
also
populate
some
of
our
work
groups,
because
when
we
look
at
just
how
spread,
then
some
of
us
are
between
managing
our
time
on
the
nla,
managing
our
individual
nas
and
then
also
participating
in
work
groups.
F
Sometimes
that
just
gets
a
little
bit
too
much
so
to
kind
of
sum
it
up.
I
still
feel
like
the
nla
is
asking
for
us
to
find
a
way
to
do
this.
I
am
hearing
the
city
basically
tell
us,
we
can't
and
if
that's
the
way
it
is,
I
suppose
it's
the
way
it
is
but
to
mayor
russell's
point
I
think
if
we
created
the
opportunity
for
alternates,
it
creates
a
way
for
us
to
to
borrow
dave,
johnson's
term
train
successors
and
get
people
ready
to
follow
in
our
footsteps.
I
You
have
to
be
a
board
member
of
your
n
a
I
am
training,
my
replacement
right
now,
he's
he's
listening
in
on
on
the
this
conversation
as
a
visitor,
but
I'm
concerned
that
about
the
barriers
of
training
or
replacement
and
having
to
go
through
the
selection
process,
even
though
this
is
the
only
member
of
our
board
that
I
am
training.
L
D
So
I
think
that's
a
recommended
practice
because
it's
really
hard
to
have
run
a
neighborhood
association
board
and
know
what
the
nla
is
up
to
without
having
them
sit
on
your
board
and
so
it
I
think,
what
we're
saying
is:
it's
not
required
in
our
code
to
have
a
to
be
a
board
member.
If
you
have
your
own
bylaws
that
say
otherwise,
I
I
would
ask
ian
how
we
would
go
about
that.
I
mean
it's.
Your
bylaws
yeah.
L
I
mean
my
the
short
answer:
is
it's
up
to
the
n
a,
but
if
the
n,
a
if
an
n
a
recommends
candidates
to
to
the
mayor
and
council
for
appointment,
whether
they
are
or
are
not,
members
of
that
and
a
board
is
not
determinative.
The
code
doesn't
require
so
yet
practically
speaking.
Does
it
make
sense,
from
an
na's
perspective,
to
recommend
somebody
that
has
attended
a
whole
bunch
of
n
a
board
meetings
and
understands
the
neighborhood
sure,
but
it's
not
a
requirement
of
the
code.
Okay,.
I
Well
I'll
check
our
bylaws,
and
if
they
don't
require
the
nla
member
to
to
be
a
board
member,
then
I
will
request
a
change
in
violence
and
we'll
vote
on
it.
But
I
it's
ridiculous
to
think
that
somebody
that
does
not
attend
the
board
meetings,
especially
when
we've
been
in
the
process
of
tuning
the
boards
over
the
last
six
months
is
unbelievable.
D
D
I
G
And
dave,
ultimately,
I
think
it
goes
back
to
the
neighborhood
association
is
responsible
for
making
this
recommendation.
So
clearly
I
would
choose
somebody
who
they
thought
right
would
do
the
job
and
work
together
with
them.
So
I
expect
that
probably
means
that
they'll
be
on
the
board
anyway,
I'm
not
sure
that
right-wing.
Why
would
they
recommend
someone
if
they
weren't
right
in
sync
with
them?
So
I'm
not
sure
that.
C
I
Well,
I
you
know,
I
guess
I'm
looking
for
some
rationale
for
having
someone
else
represent
dna,
especially
when
our
board
has
been
adjusting
itself
over
the
last
six
months.
A
So
I
think
this
naturally
has
segmented
to
our
next
agenda
topic,
which
is
the
appointment
process
and
ending
terms.
Michaela
did
you
have
a
summary
or
any
information
you
want
to
share
on
that.
E
Okay,
so
lisa,
thank
you
for
raising
all
those
points.
The
one
point
I
guess
I
want
to
raise
is
that
sometimes
the
nla
rep
cannot
make
the
meeting,
and
it
would
be,
I
think,
advantageous
to
the
n
a
to
at
least
have
somebody
to
be
able
to
sit
in
and
represent
the
n.
A
at
that
meeting
until
the
you
know,
the
appointed
rep
is
able
to
attend.
N
Yeah
I,
when
I
first
started
attending
our
old
neighborhood
board.
It
turns
out
that
the
representative
to
the
nla
was
not
coming
to
the
board
meeting,
and
so
we
made
a
change
and
I
can't
recall
that
anybody
read
any
bylaws,
but
the
board
felt
it
had
the
authority
to
to
fire
the
previous
nla
representative
and
I'd
like
to
make
sure
that
is
still
possible
that
I
can
be
fired
or
whatever
and
install
the
new
nla
represented,
which
happened
to
be
me.
L
I
can
speak
to
that.
Hopefully
briefly,
no,
a
neighbor
association
can't
take
somebody
off
of
the
nla.
The
mayor
and
council
can
remove
somebody
from
a
city
board
or
commission.
Now,
if
a
problem
like
that
arose,
they're
going
to
have
to
be
discussions,
I
mean
bring
it
to
michaela's
attention.
L
Staff
can
talk
about
it
with
the
mayor
and
hopefully
something
can
get
figured
out
and
somebody
steps
aside
and
a
new
person
is
put
forward
for
mayor
and
council
consideration.
But
the
bottom
line
is-
and
I
don't
mean
this
to
sound
too
in
delicate,
but
the
mayor
and
council
have
discretion
and
authority
to
put
people
on
city
advisory
boards
and
commissions
and
to
take
people
off
and
and
no
one
else
does.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So,
in
the
interest
of
time
we're
gonna
move
forward
additional
questions,
lisa
dave,
others
if
you
could
email
those
to
michaela
and
we'll
get
those
questions
addressed
in
the
meantime.
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
as
chair,
I
think
our
past
practice
has
been
if
you're
not
at
the
meeting,
then
you're
not
able
you
have
no
way
to
weigh
in
which
is
part
of
the
conversation
with
alternates.
A
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
if
there's
something
on
the
agenda-
and
you
are
not
able
to
be
at
the
meeting
so
legal
correct
me
if
this
is
not
okay,
but
I
am
completely
comfortable
with
you
sending
a
statement
or
some
information
that
I
can
read
at
the
meeting,
if
that
makes
sense
totally
fine,
okay,
great
all
right.
So,
let's
move
forward.
D
Yeah,
so
if
you'll
remember,
mayor,
russell
joined
us
last
october,
when
we
were
talking
about
board
recruitment
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
discussed
was
changing
the
appointment
process
for
the
nla
and
when
there
was
a
board
opening
and
so
on,
the
screen
are
the
new
appointment
process
items
I
should
say,
and
essentially
what
is
changing
from
before
to
now
is
that
the
we're
asking
for
three
people
to
be
put
forward
for
an
open
in
lac?
D
I
think
that
when
we
have
situations
and
we'll
talk
about
turmans
in
a
second,
but
as
far
as
like
the
open
seats,
we
are
asking
for
three
people
and
what
we're
going
to
do
to
help
you
with
that
is,
do
some
more
advertising
for
you.
So
in
the
one
thing
that
is
different,
that
we've
not
done
is
advertised
in
la
openings.
D
Broadly
citywide,
all
the
other
committees,
we
do
press
releases,
and
so
what
we're
offering
is
that
the
we'll
do
the
same
thing
for
the
nla
and
as
people
apply
or
express
interest,
we
will
redirect
those
folks
out
to
the
neighborhood
association
so
that
you
can
interview
them
and
and
decide
if
they're,
someone
that
you
want
to
add
to
your
board
or
maybe
recommend
for
an
nla
seat.
So
that's
something
that
we
are
going
to
do.
I
see
lisa,
you
have
your
hand
up.
F
F
D
And
the
mayor
can
help
me
clarify.
I
think
what
we're
really
trying
to
do
is
get
us
outside
of
the
boards,
the
existing
neighborhood
association
boards
and
not
in
a
way
that
excludes
them.
They
should
absolutely
still
have
a
chance
to
run
for
an
open
nla
seat,
but
broadening
it
and
expanding
it
to
folks
who
maybe
aren't
even
engaged
with
the
neighborhoods,
yet
allowing
them
to
meet
connect
with
the
neighborhood
associations
and
learn
more
about
this
process
and
appointments.
D
So
yes,
I
I
hear
you,
I
think
what
I
was
trying
to
clarify
is
that
they
do
not
need
to
be
board
members
of
the
recommendations.
F
And
again,
I
think
all
of
us
are
going
to
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
our
bylaws,
because
I'm
pretty
sure
that
our
bylaws
also
change
that
the
recommendation
would
come
from
a
board
member
for
century
west.
So
thank
you.
D
J
Yeah,
I'm
just
gonna
say
very
strongly
that
I'm
hearing
a
real
polarization
from
what
the
city
sing
and
what
the
nas
are
saying
here
and
I
see
why
the
city
wants
to
include
a
broader
representation
of
who
can
come
on
our
boards
and
work
as
inlay
reps,
but
they
have
to
people
that
have
to
come
onto
our
boards
and
and
establish
themselves,
and
that
doesn't
happen
overnight.
You
know
I
mean
these
people
have
to
come
in
and
we
have
to
respect
them
too.
There
has
to
be
relationships.
J
G
Yeah-
and
you
know
in
sort
of
response
to
sort
of
everything
that
I'm
hearing
again,
it
goes
back
to
the
conversation
that
we
had
back
in
october
in
november,
which
is
that
the
opportunity
here
is
to
create
broader
representation
at
the
board
throughout
your
entire
community,
and
so
you
know,
as
we
begin
to
sort
of
give
you
opportunities
to
expand
your
boards
and
the
participation
in
your
neighborhood
associations.
G
Part
of
it
is
to
encourage
reaching
out
to
you
know,
maybe
community
members
that
you
normally
wouldn't
have
reached
out
to
to
bring
them
into
your
tables
and
to
work
together.
The
other
thing
that
we're
doing
internally,
as
we
are
working
hard
every
time
we
fill
a
committee
position,
is
to
really
set
expectations
of
how
much
work
it's
going
to
be.
You
know
what
the
guidelines
are
and
when
you're
working
for
the
public
and
focusing
on
on
equity
and
inclusion,
participation
of
all
people
and
from
all
corners
of
our
neighborhood
associations.
G
That's
what
equity
inclusion
means
to
me,
and
so
I
just
want
to
again.
This
is
something
that
I
can't
see
that
we're
going
to
change
and
again
it's
we
will
work
with
you.
That's
the
other
piece
is
that
we
will
work
with
you
to
reach
out
to
your
neighborhood
associations
to
keep
keep
starting
expanding
the
opportunities
and
look
for
ways
to
make
your
structures
in
every
single
neighborhood
association,
as
well
as
at
the
nla,
more
robust
and
more
informed
and
and
greater
engagement.
So.
J
This
is
about
trust
sally.
This
is
about
trusting
people
and
you
have
to
take
that
takes
time
to
get
you
can't
just
bring
somebody
on
you
don't
know,
and
you
don't
trust
to
represent
your
neighbor
association
until
you
understand
who
what
they
do
and
it
takes
time
for
that
to
happen.
That's
all
I'm
saying.
D
A
D
A
A
G
So
to
clarify
to
maybe
can
you
hear
me
now
it
looked
like
I
was
I
needed
to
sort
of
maybe
reset
this
conversation
and
answer
your
question.
I
went
back
with
staff
and
we
looked
at
your.
I
think
it's
a
charter
and
the
nla
wrap
must
be
recommended
by
the
neighborhood
association
board,
so
we
may
go
through
an
interim
process,
but
ultimately
right
it
goes.
The
recommendation
comes
from
the
neighborhood
association
board
for
the
nla
seat.
A
D
Yeah
real
quick:
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that.
A
D
All
had
term
updates,
so
this
is
the
current
terms
and
what
we're
looking
at
for
this
coming
july.
So
following
the
july
meeting,
will
be
when
the
top
group
of
folks
will
re
retire
or
expire.
I
don't
will
need
to
run
for
renewal
if
you
want
to
join
us
again
for
another
another
four
years
and
then
the
ones
ending
july
2024.
D
Obviously
you
have
a
couple
of
years
to
think
about
that,
but
I
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
who's
upcoming
and
ask
that
if
you
already
know
you're
not
planning
on
nominating
yourself
for
reappointment,
then
please
let
me
know
so
that
I
know
what
neighborhoods
we're
going
to
need
to
do
some
outreach
for-
and
I
can
work
with
your
chairs
to
do
that.
O
I
think
this
is
a
very
quick
question,
but
when
I
was
reading
the
handbook
there
was
a
term
the
initial
members
had
terms
of
four
years
and
then,
after
that
they
were
terms
of
three
years,
and
I
think
you
just
said
four
years
so
I
was
wondering.
Is
it
three
or
four
or
not
clear?.
D
My
understanding,
I
just
read
this
the
other
day,
so
it
said
two
terms
of
four
years
and
the
it
was
for
the
first
people
who
started
it.
There
was
a
round
of
two
years,
so
that
is
a
really
ugly
way
of
describing
what
the
term
limits
are.
D
The
end
or
what
thank
you
yeah,
no
problem
so
for
the
assessment
update.
I
can
make
this
one
quick,
jim.
You
had
asked
earlier.
D
Those
conversations
are
still
happening,
so
I
have
been
to
seven
of
the
13
neighborhood
associations
to
have
neighborhood
discussions
and
talk
about
the
neighborhood
assessment,
and
so,
as
I'm
doing
that,
I'm
having
the
boards
fill
out
the
questionnaire
prior
to
me
attending
so
that
we
can
go
through
those
items
and
then
see
how
much
they
relate
to
each
of
the
neighborhood
association
boards.
So
it's
been
really
great
to
be
able
to
say
like.
D
Oh,
this
is
a
true
statement
for
you
in
larkspur,
or
this
is
not
a
true
statement
for
you
and
larkspur
and
and
be
able
to
tailor
a
little
bit
more
of
the
barrier
conversation
around
what
you're
actually
experiencing
at
the
neighborhood
association
level.
So
that
has
been
the
the
current
process
jim.
I
haven't,
made
it
to
southeast
bend
yet.
D
So
that
is
one
that
I'm
trying
to
get
on
the
schedule
for
march
and
when
I
do
meet
with
you,
you'll
have
access
to
the
new
the
board
that
I'm
using,
which
has
all
of
my
assessment
details
and
conversations
logged
in
that.
So
it's
it's
called
miro.
It's
the
white
board
that
we
used
for
for
brainstorming
last
october
with
this
group.
So
I
will
be
sharing
that
with
you.
When
we
get
to
the
southeast
bend
conversation.
E
Okay,
just
for
a
clarification,
I
know
when
I
put
in
the
letter
back
in
I
guess
november
about
it,
I
kind
of
envisioned
the
city
sending
out
a
survey
to
each
one
of
the
boards,
listing
all
the
comments
that
each
of
the
nla
you
know
members
mentioned
in
our
brainstorming
sessions
in
the
fall
and
then
have
the
you
know
the
boards
consider
them
and
kind
of
rank
them
and
say
yeah
we're
facing
this
problem.
This
is
a
big
problem,
though
this
one's
not
a
problem
and
go
on
and
so
forth.
E
D
We
can
go
back
and
grab
the
conversation
notes,
but
my
understanding
was
that
you
wanted
me
to
go
to
the
neighborhood
associations
and
see
how
each
of
those
neighborhoods
were
dealing
with
the
assumptions
that
came
out
of
the
nla
discussion
and
in
a
way
I
am
doing
you
had
suggested
a
chart.
I
think
methodology
of
like
check
here.
If
this
applies
to
you,
it
is
in
a
very
similar
format.
It's
just
on
a
rating
scale,
so
a
zero
to
five.
D
E
Okay,
but
just
a
kind
of
a
question
of
clarification
during
the
workshops
that
we
had
in
the
fall
and
I'll
call
it
that,
where
we
listed,
you
know
a
page
and
a
half
of
issues
that
the
representatives
had
mentioned
now.
Is
it
that
list
that
you
are
coming
around
to
each
n
a
or
is
it
the
the
list
of
five
assumptions
that
you
generated?
D
It
was
the
it's
the
five
assumptions
and
the
boards
have
access
to
the
entire
nla
conversation
and
recruitment
and
engagement
plan
that
came
out
of
that
so
yeah.
We
are
asking
about
specifically
the
five
assumptions
and
then
opening
it
up
for
comments
on
what
they
believe.
Other
issues
are
within
their
neighborhood
and
I
felt
like
that
would
be
a
more
appropriate
way
of
going
about
it
than
putting
all
hundred
plus
comments
in
front
of
them
and
having
them
rank
each
one
about
how
well
they
applied
to
them.
A
E
That's
not
kind
of
what
I
had
hoped
for,
but
it
does
sound
like
it's
almost
like
the
nas
are
being
shoehorned
into
the
five
assumptions
that
the
city
had
made
and
I'm
still
afraid
that
you
know
some
issues
are
going
to
be
overlooked
or
missed.
E
You
know
I'd
rather
have
the.
I
guess
the
original
list.
I
don't
know
it's
100
items
or
50
items.
I
had
not
counted,
but
you
know,
and
some
will
apply
to
some
and
some
will
apply
to
all,
and
maybe
some
will
apply
to
just
one
or
two.
You
know
just
don't
know,
but
I
just
felt
that
was
a
far
more
equitable
and
fair
way
to
basically
get
the
issues,
the
nacs
from
an
n
a
viewpoint
rather
than
from
city
viewpoint.
So
I
guess
I'm
not
happy
to
hear
this.
D
Well-
and
let
me
assure
you
too,
that
the
that
piece
of
this
discussion
is
a
very
minimal
pre-work
to
the
actual
discussion
which
I'm
holding
with
the
boards,
which
asks
those
same
questions
that
the
nla
went
through.
So
the
boards
are
also
going
through
these.
What
are
the
barriers
that
you're
experiencing?
What
are
opportunities
that
you
see?
What
has
been
your
biggest
ongoing
challenge?
I'm
also
collecting
that
information
from
all
of
the
neighborhoods,
in
addition
to
the
nla
assumptions.
D
Okay,
so
with
the
neighborhood
assessment,
this
we're
getting
into
the
step
three.
I
believe
it
is
on
my
the
flow
chart
of
the
neighborhood
assessment,
which
was
doing
a
neighborhood
community
survey,
and
so
with
that
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
we
have
met
and
chose
a
company
to
facilitate
the
survey,
called
them
bold
research
and
they
have
been
working
on
drafting
questions,
and
I
had
reached
out
to
the
nla
last
month
asking
for
just
requests,
for
if
you
have
something
specific
that
you
want
to
be
asked
in
this
citywide
survey.
D
Let
me
know
of
the
comments
that
I've
received
we've
in
court.
I
feel
like
they've
incorporated
those
pretty
well,
so
I
wanted
to
just
go
through
just
the
high
level
overview
of
what
this
is
going
to
look
like
and
bold.
Research
is
using
a
form
of
methodology.
That's
called
it's
called
dynamic
online
sampling,
so
essentially,
what
they're
doing
is
they're
reaching
different
groups
of
people
using
digital
technology
and
meeting
them
using
the
apps
and
platforms
that
they
use,
and
so
it's
a
new
waves
doing
surveys.
D
The
city
hasn't
necessarily
done
one
like
this
before,
and
so
it's
an
exciting
opportunity
to
see
how
we
could
do
surveys
in
different
ways.
It
is
unbranded,
so
if
it's
out
there
and
the
way
that
they're
reaching
out
to
people,
it
still
looks
like
an
official
survey.
D
It
just
does
not
have
the
city
of
bend
all
over
it,
and
so
they
have
found
that
it
has
less
of
a
bias
result
when
it
is
unbranded,
and
so
that
is
why
we
are
using
that
outreach
or
methodology
and
there's
going
to
be
a
500
person
sample.
So
over
the
next
few
weeks,
they're
going
to
be
going
out
and
trying
to
collect
a
representative
sample
of
bend
they're
doing
that
through
pushing
out
three
advertisements
and
requests
for
taking
the
survey
through
digital
methods.
D
So
text
messaging
is
one
way
they're
they're
gonna
do.
A
Michaela,
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
you're
kind
of
going
in
and
out
you
weren't
able
to
hear
what
you
were
just
saying.
D
Okay,
so
essentially,
I
was
just
going
over
the
bullets
that
are
on
the
slides.
So
where
did
you
guys
leave
off?
I
guess
this
summer.
D
Okay
and
so
the
way
that
they
do,
that
is,
they
watch
the
digital,
as
as
the
survey
response
are
coming
in,
they
change
them,
they
can
change
the
demographics
that
they're
targeting
with
their
advertisements.
So
if
we're
getting
too
much
of
a
retiring
retirement,
age
or
inputs,
then
they
will
switch
it
and
advertise
more
to
a
different
age
group.
So
that's
just
an
example
of
something
that
they
will
do
as
they're
watching
this.
D
It
is
also
offered
in
spanish
with
separate
spanish
outreach,
so
for
those
folks
there's
going
to
be
an
entirely
different
way
of
reaching
out
to
them
to
get
them
to
respond
to
the
survey
they'll
be
included
in
that
500
person
sample,
and
then
I
wanted
to
let
this
group
know
that
if
you
do
come
across
the
survey,
it's
important
that
you
don't
share
it,
and
I
find
that
interesting.
D
I
was
surprised
when
we
were
going
through
this
with
the
the
survey
analysts,
but
they
said
that
it
has
a
tendency
to
ski
results
if
we
do
share
that
with
our
friends
and
our
circles
essentially.
So
that
is
one
ask
that
we
have
of
the
requests
from
the
nla.
I
wanted
to
include
these
on
the
screen
so
that
you
could
see
them.
D
These
are
including
I
received
a
request
to
include
legacy,
questions
or
questions
that
can
be
tested
again,
including
a
question
that
would
address
how
newcomers
defend
cnas
versus
how
longer
term
residents
do
a
question
about
whether
they
feel
like
their
feedback,
was
responded
to
and
or
followed
up
on
by
the
na
and
the
city
of
bend.
So
both
of
those
include
a
question
about
n
a
resources
and
knowledge
and
where
to
find
them
and
then
include
a
question
that
speaks
to
resident
confidence
about
neighborhood
impact
with
council.
D
So
those
were
the
recommendations
that
I
got
from
the
nla
and
have
shared
with
the
survey
group
and,
as
I
said,
I
think
that,
to
to
this
point,
the
questions
that
they've
been
drafting
have
met
those
and
then
I
wanted
to
let
the
group
know
that
on
march
28th
I
will
be
attending
the
city
council
stewardship
subcommittee
meeting
and
so
that
at
that
point
I
hope
to
have
the
answers
to
the
first
set.
D
Sorry
to
the
that
community
survey,
as
well
as
the
neighborhood
association
discussions
wrapped
up
and
then
provide
that
in
a
presentation
to
council
so
or
the
subcommittee
of
council,
so
that
they
can
give
any
input
or
initial
thoughts
and
direction
towards
the
assessment
at
that
time.
So
I'll
keep
you
updated,
but
I
would
wanted
to
invite
all
of
you
to
attend
that
in
case
you're
interested
in
how
the
assessment's
going
and
what
it
looked
like
after
I
talked
to
all
these
people
and
got
all
of
these
great
inputs.
D
F
D
That's
a
good
question.
I
think
that
they've
have
it
set
out
in
my
in
the
like
proposal
that
they
gave
me
that
they
recommend
a
500
person
sample
and
the
reason
that
they
recommended.
That
is
because
they
want
to
do.
D
They
want
to
ask
demographic
questions
so
that
they
can
see
who's,
doing
it
or
sorry
who's
responding
to
the
survey,
and
then
they
said
it's
important
to
let's
see
opinions.
F
While
you're
looking
for
that,
I'm
just
kind
of
playing
those
numbers,
so
500
people
divided
by
13
neighborhoods,
I
think
that's
about
38
people
that
have
the
potential.
You
know
if
we
can
somehow
do
this
equitably.
We're
going
to
have
38
responses
from
each
of
the
neighborhoods,
and
you
know
I'm
sure
it's
going
to
be
more
in
some
and
fewer
than
others.
F
But
then
I
also
look
at
the
success
that
some
neighborhoods
have
had
in
terms
of
the
number
of
people
that
have
become
neighborhood
association
members
and
I
believe
that
aubry
butte
is
still
in
the
lead
with
that
percentage
of
of
of
members
compared
to
tax
lots.
And
so
then
I'm
kind
of
looking
at
38
potential
respondents.
F
What
are
the
chances
that
they're
actually
going
to
land
on
people
who
have
any
knowledge
about
what
a
neighborhood
association
is,
and
especially,
if
only
at
best,
neighborhood
associations
currently
represent,
maybe
25
to
35
or
40
percent
of
the
tax
lot.
So
I'm
just
kind
of
playing
with
those
numbers-
and
this
doesn't
make
sense
to
me.
D
Thanks
for
sharing,
I
think
I
don't
have
the
response
from
them
about
the
500,
so
I'll
look
into
that
and
see
if
I
can
get
you
their
methodology.
Oh
and
I
see
you
maybe
you
remember.
P
Well-
and
I
I
just
wanted
to
add,
like
I've
been
involved
with
a
handful
of
our
statistically
valid
community
surveys
over
the
past
eight
or
nine
years,
and
a
sample
size
of
three
to
four
hundred
people
can
be
representational
and
have
a
confidence
level
of
plus
or
minus.
I
want
to
say
it's
a
five
percent
confidence
level,
and
I
don't
have
this
in
front
of
me
right
now,
but
I
500
inputs
is
actually
more
than
some
of
the
other
surveys
that
we've
done.
P
I
think
that
the
really
important
part
is
not
the
number
so
much,
but
who
are
we
getting?
Are
we
getting
a
broad
spectrum
and
is
it
truly
representing
who's
in
our
community?
So
even
if
it
were
two
people
per
neighborhood
association,
are
they
the
right
two
people
and
that's
all
based
on
demographics,
age,
gender,
geographic
representation?
P
So
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
in
there.
That
500
number
is
is
not
unusual
or
low.
F
So
I
I
totally
agree
that
the
500
number
could
be
appropriate
when
we
are
looking
for
responses
from
a
general
population
type
survey,
and
I
think
that
that
is
my
concern
about
this
survey
is
that
it
appears
that
this
is
a
general
population
survey.
This
is
not
a
survey
of
neighborhood
association
members
right.
D
Right
intended
to
be
so,
it's
intended
to
be
a
general
to
capture
the
voices
of
those
who
are
not
included
in
the
neighborhood
associations
or
maybe
they're
your
members,
but
they're,
not
the
boards.
F
Q
My
question
somewhat
related
to
lisa's,
in
that,
how
do
we
make
sure
that
the
500
people
reflect
the
diversity
of
bend
that
we're
trying
to
reach
through
the
outreach
that
we're
doing
500
seems
like
a
very
small
sample
size
for
this
type
of
questionnaire?
I
guess,
despite
what
anne
says,
it
just
seems
like
500.
Maybe
when
the
city
was
smaller,
but
to
get
a
representative
number,
it
seems
like
it
should
be
a
lot
higher,
but
anyway
my
two
cents.
H
D
Yes,
absolutely
so
part
of
it.
The
sit
down
was
talking
about
some
questions
that
even
maybe
ann
and
I
were
like.
I
don't
know
if
we
should
include
this
or
if
we
want
to
this
outcome,
to
be
this,
but
they
had
very
pretty
good
data
that
shared
why
we
should
ask
certain
questions
the
way
we
should.
H
Yeah,
I
think
that's
helpful,
because
I
know
that
you
know
even
just
the
way
questions
are
phrased
or
the
words
that
are
used
can
can
skew
data
in
a
survey
and
all
those
sorts
of
things.
So
I'm
really
grateful
that
we're
going
with
an
experienced
company
that
can
kind
of
help
us
get
the
most
accurate
feedback
from
the
largest
diverse
swath
of
our
community.
So
thanks
for
doing
that,
work.
D
Yeah,
thank
you,
and
just
so
you
know
we
did
have
a
request
for
proposal
process,
so
we
went
out
to
surveyors
and
asked
for
them
to
propose.
We
told
them
a
little
bit
about
what
we
wanted
to
accomplish
with
this
survey.
What
our
budget
was
ask
them
to
make
proposals
for
how
we
can
do
that.
The
best
way
and
bold
rose
to
the
top
on
several
different
areas.
F
So
michaela,
I
just
want
to
ask
you
know
if,
let's
just
say,
we
get
500
responses
and,
let's
just
say,
for
example,
that
most
of
those
responses
are
not
people
that
are
part
of
neighborhood
associations.
So
how
does
this
really
tell
us
anything
about?
What's
going
on
with
neighborhood
associations
other
than
I
suppose
we
can
make
the
conclusion
that
neighborhood
associations
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
penetration
and
getting
more
members,
but
how's
this
really
going
to
represent
what
our
those
that
are
part
of
neighborhood
associations
feel.
D
Yeah
so
we
have
crosstabs,
and
I
think
this
is
a
part
of
how
it'll
be
performed,
but
the
ability
for
us
to
know
if
someone
says
that
they
don't
look
favorably
on
neighborhood
associations,
for
example,
and
then
later
on,
they
tell
us
that
they
think
neighborhoods
are
in
charge
of
landscaping
and
paint
colors
we're
going
to
know
that
that's
a
disconnect.
D
F
D
J
Cassie,
are
we
gonna
be
doing
nimby
versus
yembi.
D
There
are,
there
is
a
something
in
there
that
would
allow
us
to
pull
out
if
a
certain
group
was
taking
a
question
in
a
particular
way.
I'm
not
the
expert
in
data
research.
So
it's
hard
for
me
to
communicate
this,
but
yes,
so
this
is
just
one
input
into
the
assessment.
It's
gonna
get!
Sorry!
D
A
C
I
Thank
you.
The
community
building
subcommittee
started
off
with
discussion
about
tearing
down
a
bridge.
The
fire
rock
footbridge
and
the
discussion
was
about.
I
The
bridge
has
already
been
sealed
off
and
so
that
the
staff
is
proposing
removing
the
bridge,
and
then
there
was
an
emphasis
on
the
fact
that
the
the
archie
briggs
bridge
would
soon
be
open
and
the
the
fire
rig
bridge
is
already
chained
off
and
is
unsafe,
and
there
are
signs
already
that
that
say
that
it's
unusual
unusable
and
dangerous.
I
But
people
keep
crawling
under
the
chains
and
using
it.
So
the
city
is
recommending
that
it
go
ahead
and
just
be
torn
down,
and
then
they
moved
to
to
tax
exemptions
and
I
think
visit
karen
who's
on
the
the
tax
committee.
I
They
moved
on
to
the
tax
exemptions
and
so
I'll
leave
that
to
to
to
karen
to
report
on,
because
that
was
more
than
three
quarters
of
the
meeting.
Q
So
the
tax
exempt
committee
met
three
times
and
it's
my
understanding
that
they're
gonna
be
setting
up
another
media
on
march
28th,
the
council
work
session
got
pushed
back
to
april
and
that
generally
staff
are
considering
three
exemption
programs,
the
non-profit
middle
income
and
the
multi-unit
property
tax
exemption
and
not
the
vertical
housing.
At
this
time.
Q
H
Q
I
did
want
to
add
that
one
of
the
sidebar
discussions
with
the
with
some
neighborhood
associations
came
out
about
landscaping.
We
wanted
to
make
landscaping.
Q
So
my
sense
is
that
we'll
be
coming
back
to
this
group
with
how
we
might
be
able
to
change
the
landscaping
requirements
for
new
developments,
but
that's
kind
of
a
sidebar
discussion
going
on.
B
Dude,
sorry,
there
we
go.
I
would
like
to
add
that,
while
I
was
doing
some
of
the
land
use
chair
for
bonna,
I
looked
at
the
list
of
street
trees
and
only
one
tree,
that's
permitted
by
the
city
is
a
native
and
most
of
them
that
are
on.
There
are
recognized
across
the
united
states
as
being
invasives.
D
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
lisa
joette
had
said
you
didn't
meet
this
month,
so
I
had
just
taken
it
off.
F
That
being
said-
and
yes,
I
did
miss
this
meeting,
because
I
think
I
took
a
vacation
out
of
the
country.
It
was
wonderful
and
then
promptly
came
back
and
I
was
sick
for
a
week
and
a
half
not
covet,
but
anyhow
go
out
of
the
country
and
come
back.
Sick
nart
is
very
pleased
that
we
have
the
governor's
office
meeting
with
us
on
march
29th.
F
F
F
It
was
actually
a
couple
of
months
ago
now
and
the
rules
keep
changing.
The
purpose
of
the
nart
meeting
is
to
have
somebody
from
the
governor's
office
actually
further
explain
the
coordination.
That's
happening
among,
I
believe
there
are
19
or
so
different
state
agencies,
so
there
will
be
an
invite.
That's
going
out
to
everyone,
we
hope
we're
specifically
targeting
neighborhood
association,
board
members
and
certainly
land
use
chairs
and
everyone
from
nart.
F
A
Great
thank
you
lisa
and
thanks
for
speaking
up
appreciate
that
okay,
let's
move
into
representative
reports
kathy
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
you
real,
quick
with
the
street
tree
topic.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
by
show
of
hands
see
if
there
are
other
nas
that
feel
this
is
a
substantial
issue
or
topic
within
their
neighborhood.
A
C
A
D
Yes-
and
I
can
add
this
just
as
a
reminder-
we
have
an
outstanding
topics
list
on
our
roadmap
and
so
I'm
happy
to
add
that
to
our
list
of
things
to
look
into.
F
Just
just
a
quick
question:
how
does
this
also
relate
to
the
tree
code?
Are
they
are
they
are
we
considering
them
one
and
the
same?
Are
they
different
topics,
and
then
separately?
We
also
have
a
pretty
substantial
issue
with
developers
clear-cutting
lots
and
how
does
that
relate
to
what
you're
talking
about.
C
D
So
I
think,
because
both
street
trees
and
landscaping
were
brought
up,
what
the
appropriate
step
would
be
is,
if
there's
a
majority
of
the
committee
that
wants
to
know
more.
That
sends
me
on
a
task
to
come
up
with
a
memo,
so
I
can
provide
you
with
information
such
as
when
the
tree
code
is
going
to
be
spoken
to
if
the
landscaping
on
sidewalks
fits
into
that
tree
code.
D
What
some
of
the
other
issues
are
and
then
how
it
could
look
if
there
was
any
action
at
council
level
taken,
so
that
is
when
you
bring
an
issue
up.
That's
the
process
to
get
more
info.
F
A
Agreed
that
will
cover
that
will
cover
the
concerns
that
we've
been
discussing
and
if
we
need
to
parse
it
down
again
later,
we
can
to
prioritize
our
questions
or
concerns
within
that
topic.
Thanks
lisa.
D
A
Now-
and
I
appreciate
that,
it's
more
of
whether,
within
your
experience
that
has
come
up
as
an
issue
and
if
it
hasn't
at
that
point
at
this
point,
that's
fine
and
we
and
we'll
cover
that
later.
As
far
as
going
back
to
rnas,
to
judge
how
big
of
an
issue
that
is,
but
I'm
seeing
enough
hands,
michaela
that
if
you
could
take
a
look
at
that
report
back,
I
would
appreciate
it.
D
Okay,
yes,
and
that
report
includes
all
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
do
on
our
list
and
our
strategic
plan
and
council
goals,
and
so
we
just
need
to
be
mindful
of
that,
as
we
select
topics
to
take
up
the
chain
to
council.
Okay,.
I
Yes,
our
our
board
member
karen
johnson
has
has
been
our
tree
expert
and
she
has
written
several
letters
to
the
planning
commission
and
of
the
council
about
trees,
and
I
would
recommend
that
we
include
her
specifically
in
any
recommendations
about
tree
code.
D
I
D
There
is
revisiting
the
ben
tree
code
in
council
goals
this
year,
and
so
that
is
on
the
list
of
things
tackle.
If
karen's
full
farm
wasn't
aware,
I
want
to
make
sure
you
knew
that.
Also,
let's
see.
D
Also
that
I'm
not
sure
who
that
lives
under
so
I
need
to
figure
out
who's
going
to
be
working
on
that
goal,
specifically
if
it's
the
environment
and
climate
committee
and
how
we
can
partner.
If
that's,
if
there's
a
potential
to
partner,
I
can
do
some
research
on
that
as
as
well
in
this
process.
G
Michaela,
I
believe
it's
our
march
16th
meeting.
I
think
we're
doing
our
quarterly
update
and
we're
going
to
be
revisiting
goals.
I
was
just
trying
to
find
that
agenda
as
we
were
talking.
Is
it
no
not.
G
G
G
Let's
see,
oh,
it's
not,
and
okay
I'll
get
back
to
you
in
a
second.
I
know
it's
coming
up.
Let
me
if
it's
not
march
16th.
I
know
it's
coming
up
soon
and
prop.
So
all
these
right,
as
as
so
we'll
do
sort
of
a
point
in
time
check
to
make
sure
you
know
we're
allocating
resources
to
community
priorities
and
council
priorities
with
all
the
changes
and
needs
that
we've
experienced
this
past
year.
A
Okay,
so
we
are
running
a
very
far
behind
on
our
agenda
instead
of
going
through
and
and
saying
each
name,
please
raise
your
hand
or
click
the
hand
button.
If
you
have
something
that
you
want
to
share
from
your
n,
a
that,
you
believe,
may
be
a
city-wide
issue.
A
J
Weird,
it
went
off
sorry
it
just
it
does
it
automatically
back
on.
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
we
added
some
new
board
members
that
are
working
members
of
our
community
civil,
a
civil
engineer
named
ashley
mcneill
who's,
a
technical
person
for
our
communications,
and
we
added
gina
franzoa
who's,
a
civil
engineer,
working
as
our
tsp
and
go
bond.
You
know
communications
person
and
we've
also
added
in
our
chair.
J
Our
chair
has
been
voted
in
and
I
could
go
over
the
topics,
but
if
this
is
a
city-wide,
then
I'm
not
going
to
do
it
so
that,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
people
to
know
that
we
have
working
people
that
are
very
involved
in
our
community
that
are
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
our
boards
as
well.
Thank
you.
I
We've
been
working
on
a
gala
general
meeting
in
the
park.
It's
the
new
park,
that's
going
in,
and
we've
been
working
closely
with
southeast
and
we'll
be
reaching
out
to
larkspur
in
the
future,
but
we're
thinking
about
a
pretty
much
gala,
a
general
meeting
with
parties
and
games
and
food
carts
and
music
and
live
reporting
and
anyway
it
will
be
in
the
in
the
park.
That's
just
above
the
the
high
school
here
on
15th
street.
I
I
I
will
keep
you
up
to
date,
but
we're
trying
to
do
that
on
july
in
early
july
and
possibly
july,
8th,
so
I'll
I'll
keep
you
posted
on
plans
as
we
move
along.
A
Okay,
thanks
dave,
seeing
no
other
hands
raised,
let's
move
into
public
comment,
and
I
believe
that
is
something
that
kayla's
gonna
lead
us
through.
M
I
am
if
you
are
interested
in
you're
on
the
phone
line.
Please
raise
your
hand
with
the
raised
hand,
function.
M
A
D
Hello,
I'm
back
they're,
sorry
about
the
connectivity
issues,
so
I
do
have
some
slides
here.
I
wanted
to
give
you
all
a
idea
of
what
has
been
happening
so
that
you
did
not
have
to
sit
through
the
eight
plus
hours
of
planning
commission
meetings
at
this
point.
So
first,
I'm
gonna
I'll
run
through
what
has
happened
so
far,
we'll
talk
about
the
recommendations
to
date
and
then
review
the
nla
comments
that
I've
received
and
we
were
supposed
to
have
more
time
for
deliberation.
But
our
meetings
do.
C
D
So,
let's
start
with
the
discussion
to
date,
so
the
public
hearing,
as
you
all
know,
opened
on
february
14th
and
at
that
or
after
after
that,
public
hearing,
they
did
ask
they
being
the
planning
commission
asked
for
these
top
six
areas
and
to
look
further
into
those
areas,
because
those
were
the
areas
that
they
were
hearing
the
most
dissatisfaction
from
community
members,
and
so
they
decided
to
go
through
each
of
these
sections.
So
they
continued
the
hearing
on
to
february
22nd
and
then
again
on
to
tonight.
D
Specifically,
the
of
the
six
items
will
go
through
each
of
them
here,
so
the
first.
The
first
item
is
occupants
by
shelter
type,
so
that
was
one
I
believe.
Density
was
one
of
the
conversations
that
was
coming
up
a
lot
and
the
planning
commission
looked
at
options
for
having
removing
density
bonuses
and
reducing
the
number
of
units
in
residential
districts
and
this
after
having
that
conversation,
they
had
not
decided
on
making
changes.
So
they
decided
no
changes
for
now
and
just
so
you're
aware,
these
are
not
final
recommendations
by
the
planning
commission.
D
The
second
item
was
the
management
of
shelters.
So
this
is
one
that
has
come
up
with
the
nla
and
they
looked
at
two
new
options.
One
was
to
require
on-site
management
in
just
residential
zones,
and
the
other
was
to
require
on-site
management
in
all
districts
and
after
looking
at
both
of
those,
they
did
not
make
any
changes
to
that
section
of
the
code.
D
The
third
area
was
good
neighbor
guidelines.
They
did
look
at
adding
items
in
to
be
included
so
specifying
within
the
code
what
should
be
included
and
get
neighbor
guidelines.
They
decided
to
make
changes
to
that
section
and
they
did
add
items
addressing
rules
for
shelter,
use
facility
operations
and
maintenance,
safety
and
security.
D
E
Sorry,
double
muted,
just
a
follow-up
question:
can
you
go
into
any
more
detail
or
would
that
be
you
send
out
an
email
or
something
because
I'm
kind
of
curious,
because
one
of
the
issues
I
raised
when
I
spoke
at
the
planning
commission
meeting
back
a
month
ago,
thanks.
D
Yeah
so
more
detail,
I
guess
if
there's
a
specific
question
that
I
can
answer,
we
do
have
pauline
hardy
and
counselor
perkins
here
to
help
with
questions
they've
both
been
involved
in
this.
So
if
there's
specific
questions
they're
here
to
help,
if
it's
more
of
like
an
la
recommendation,
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
second.
E
E
A
That's
a
good,
that's
a
good
point:
where
can
we
go
for
more
information
or
more
detail
about
these?
Can
you
point
us
in
the
right
direction
so,
for
example,
with
jim
the
good
neighbor
guidelines,
I
think
he's
wanting
a
little
more
information
about
exactly
the
changes
they
made.
Is
there
a
central
place?
We
can
go
for
that.
S
Okay,
that's
going
hello,
so
the
draft
is
still
on
the
planning
commission
agenda,
as
well
as
we're
keeping
our
shelter
code
amendments
webpage
up
to
date.
S
The
good
neighbor
guidelines
are
an
agreement
between
and
and
on
here
too,
I
believe
to
help,
but
for
jim's
question
they
are
an
agreement
between
the
shelter
guests
and
the
management
and
if
there's
violations
it's
between
them.
However,
there's
other
areas
that
the
city
already
has
in
place.
So
if
you're
talking
about
trash
in
the
middle
of
the
street,
that's
already
a
violation
of
the
municipal
code,
I
believe
for
nuisances.
S
E
You
know
next
to
you
know
les
schwab
and
there's
garbage
not
in
the
road,
but
in
the
field.
Next
to
the
tents
and
all
that
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
concerned
about
you
know
is:
how
is
management
going
to
deal
with
that
and
what
do
neighbors
do
if
management
doesn't
deal
with
it
to
their
satisfaction?
Thank
you.
E
R
L
C
L
In
my
opinion,
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
logical
fallacy
or
a
disconnect,
but
when
we
make
references
to
huntl
or
second
greely
or
what
was
it
emerson
last
year
I
mean
these
are
by
definition
on
unpermitted
unsanctioned,
I
mean
unmanaged
camps
and
what
we're
talking
about
through
these
code
amendments
are
are
not
that
right.
We're
not
talking
about
bringing
un-permitted.
L
To
different
places
in
town
we're
talking
about
facilities
that
that
will
be
permitted
and
there
are
some
debates
about
what
kind
of
management
needs
to
be
required,
but
these
are
these
are
going
to
be
facilities,
sites,
operations
that
are
permitted
through
a
land
use
process.
So
let's
say
one
of
those
is
permitted.
L
You
have
a
couple
more
thoughts,
I'll
try
to
keep
it
brief,
but
let's
say
one
of
those
is
permitted
and
there
are
violations
sort
of
on
or
around
the
site
that
are
associated
with
the
property
owner
or
residents
or
clients
of
the
site.
It
is
a
completely
different
ball
game
in
terms
of
enforcement
than
what
we
are
dealing
with
with
these
unpermitted
situations
around
town.
So
while
I
I'm
trying
to
understand
the
concerns,
it's
it's
not
particularly
analogous
to
me.
L
Worth
pointing
out-
and
I've
said
this
before
you
know
the
code
right
now
and
state
law
allows
these
facilities
in
residential
neighborhoods.
So
to
say
that
this
is
some
huge
sea
change.
The
changes
are
significant,
but
it's
not
a
huge
sea
change
compared
to
what's
what's
allowed
now,
sometimes
by
other
names.
Temporary
housing
subject
to
a
conditional
use
permit
under
our
current
development
code
is
something
that
can
go
in
a
residential
neighborhood.
L
If
it's
emergency
shelter
under
house
bill
2006,
it
can
go
into
a
residential
neighborhood
and
it's
not
even
a
land
use
decision,
so
people
don't
even
get
any
notice.
So
these
are
things
that
happen
now.
They
exist
now
and
I
think
analogizing
to
the
unmanaged
and
unpermitted
situations,
which
is
what
nobody
wants,
isn't
particularly
useful.
R
And
if
I
could
just
jump
off
of
that,
I
I
I
what
ian
said
I
think
a
more
appropriate
comparison
would
be.
You
know
when
you
go
to
help
out
at
family
kitchen
when
you
go
to
the
second
street
shelter
when
you
go
to
any
of
the
other
shelters
that
are
already
existing
in
our
community.
R
Do
you
see
trash
all
over?
Do
you
see
people
you
know
wandering
around?
Do
you
see
that
you
know
these
security
issues
that
you're
talking
about
and
the
answer
to
that
is
no,
so
I
think
that's
a
more
appropriate
comparison
than
than
hummel
road
or
emerson.
E
E
You
know
we
looked
at
what's
happening
in
seattle
and
san
francisco
and
if
ben's
going
to
go
down
that
path,
that's
going
to
be
very
problematic,
and
so
I'm
asking
these
kind
of
questions,
because
I'm
anticipating
that
the
neighbors
in
my
district
are
going
to
start
asking
those
questions
once
they
become
more
familiar
with
them,
and
so
I
don't
really
get
bogged
down
in
semantics,
but
I
want
to
be
able
to
be
in
a
position
to
say:
hey.
E
A
So
maybe
counselor
perkins,
I
know
I'm
putting
you
on
the
spot
a
little
bit,
but
I
understand
that
the
honel
road,
et
cetera,
that
jim
brings
up
are
completely
outside
or
different
from
this
shelter
code
conversation.
But
I
understand
what
he's
asking
and
I
think
a
lot
of
us
are
going
to
face
that.
Do
you
have
a
suggestion
of
how
we
would
respond
to
our
neighbors?
A
R
I
see
them
as
entirely
different
in
my
mind,
and
so
I
guess
I'm
struggling
to
kind
of
find
a
way
to
answer.
R
Yeah
yeah
I
mean
again,
I
mean
I
think,
if
we
kind
of
listen
to
some
of
the
things
that
ian
said
I
mean
these
are
these:
are
these
are
going
to
be
managed
situations?
These
are
going
to
be.
I
mean
these
these,
these
options
that
we're
talking
about
right
now,
these
good
neighbor
guidelines,
these
these
things
were
that
that
are
suggested
to
be
in
the
code.
Are
there
for
a
reason
and
they're
there
to
create
safety
and
they're
there
to
create?
R
You
know
management,
you
know
in
this
process
and
it's
and
it's
for
the
good
of
everybody,
not
just
the
people
that
would
be
in
the
shelter
it's
the
it's
for
the
it's
better
for
the
neighbors
to
have
these
things,
these
guidelines,
in
in
our
code
and
so
beyond,
just
saying
that
what
is
on
home
a
road
is
entirely
different
than
a
shelter.
I
I
guess
I
don't.
R
L
And
I'll
offer
this
I
know
lisa
is
waiting,
but
but
one
comment
I
think
there
is
a
little
bit
of
I'll
say
conflating
sometimes
between
management
or
the
degree
of
management
of
of
a
permitted,
shelter
or
site
on
the
one
hand,
and
and
enforcement
on
the
other
they're
they're
two
different
things
I
mean
I
I
can
tell
you
categorically,
you
know
no
one.
No
one
gets
a
pass
on
criminal
enforcement
from
I
mean
really
any
police
department
that
I've
ever
known
or
worked
with
and
there's
there's
there's
a
few.
L
L
The
usual
enforcement
mechanisms
are
going
to
start
operating,
whether
it's,
whether
it's
a
a
resident,
a
neighbor,
a
manager,
a
client.
It
doesn't
really
matter.
So
that's
that's!
That's
going
to
be
the
baseline.
So
to
the
extent
question
is
about
that.
I
think
I
can
say
this
doesn't
having
a
permitted
shelter
site
in
a
residential
neighborhood,
isn't
going
to
signal
or
enable
anyone
to
not
be
accountable
if
they
commit
criminal
conduct.
E
F
Jim
thanks
for
all
of
your
comments,
I
think
those
are
are
very
well
taken.
I
just
want
to
point
out
you
know:
we've
got
a
big
difference
of
opinion
among
the
residents
in
our
our
city,
where
they're
looking
at
huntl,
road
and
they're.
Basically
looking
at
this
as
a
sanctioned
camp
by
the
city
of
bend,
because
there
has
not
been
any
enforcement
out
there,
there's
not
been
any.
F
I
know
the
city
is
spending
a
lot
of
money
on
dumpsters,
but
there's
no
one
out
there.
That
is
regulating
this
and
keeping
it
tidy.
So
there's
no
confidence
here
that
the
city
or
even
the
service
providers,
who,
by
the
way,
are
regularly
out
at
huntl
road
that
this
is
going
to
be
any
kind
of
difference.
What's
the
difference,
if
it
is
a
low
barrier,
a
high
barrier,
unmanaged
or
managed
camp,
it's
going
to.
F
D
H
I
think
that
in
in
all
these
measures,
in
the
many
many
conversations
this
group
has
had
that
I
know
our
community
has
had,
I
am
picking
on
up
on
on
some
like
a
willful
misunderstanding
of
what
we're
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
on
behalf
of
these
people,
who
are
our
neighbors,
who
are
residents
who
are
part
of
bend,
and
so
you
know
I
personally
have
come
to
terms
with
the
fact
that
that
some
people
just
are
always
going
to
think
any
kind
of
supported
community.
H
Any
kind
of
space
that
is
made
available
and
managed
for
people
to
live
is
going.
You
know,
they're,
just
they're
hell-bent
on
seeing
that
as
a
hummel
road
situation.
H
I've
had
so
many
conversations
and
it
doesn't
seem
to
matter
whether
whether
facts
are
offered
in
response
to
that,
because
I
think
many
of
you
are
right.
There
is
a
lot
of
fear
and
there
is
a
lot
of
I'll
say
it
prejudice
against
our
unhoused
neighbors.
But
the
truth
is
these:
are
human
beings?
H
The
truth
is,
we
can
ask
our
city
councilors
in
the
city
to
do
a
ton
of
community
outreach
to
try
and
educate
people
to
try
and
address
those
willful
misunderstandings,
but
it's
going
to
come
down
to
all
of
us
being
able
to
learn
being
able
to
grow
being
able
to
take
in
this
new
information
that
all
these
guidelines
are
being
thought
out
and
put
into
place
to
address
the
concerns
that
the
city
has
heard
us
express
and
then
to
join
the
city
and
say:
hey
neighbor,
who's
concerned:
here's!
H
Here's
what
we've
heard
we
hear
that
you're
scared.
We
hear
that
you
have
these
concerns.
Let
me
tell
you
what
I've
learned,
because
I
also
had
those
concerns
it's
going
to
take
all
of
us
being
willing
to
put
ourselves
in
that
position
instead
of
instead
of
being
willing
to
go
along
with
this
fear-based
narrative
that
isn't
rooted
in
actual
fact
or
information,
and
I
know
we
see
pictures
of
things
you
know
in
other
cities.
H
The
truth
is
that
we
have
a
housing
crisis,
it's
a
public
health
emergency,
it
extends
to
our
baristas
and
our
workforce
and
our
unhoused
neighbors,
and
it
was
happening
long
before
covid
and
it
is
only
getting
worse,
not
because
of
some
terrible
mismanagement,
but
because
of
systems
and
circumstances
that
are
nationwide.
H
And
so
I
think
what
we
have
to
do.
What
I
often
try
to
remind
people
of
is
that
we're
we're
actually
making
incredible
progress
that
in
the
last
two
years
you
know
we
went
from
begging,
churches
or
or
spaces
to
open
up
their
their
facilities
over
the
winter
and
not
knowing
where
people
could
find
shelter.
You
know
when
it's
late
october,
to
now
having
year-round
shelter
to
now
having
things
like
veterans
village,
which
I
would
challenge
us
to
start
to.
H
H
Projects
like
veterans
village,
are
what
are
being
proposed,
and
so
I
think,
if
we
can
try
to
manage
our
own
fear,
our
own
reactivity
and
take
in
this
new
information
and
say
wow.
Many
of
our
concerns
are
being
addressed
and
well.
Here's
where
I
still
have
questions
we
can
start
to
address
this
problem
because
it's
it's
not
going
to
go
away
and
not
doing
anything
just
gets
us
more
of
what
we
have
and
honestly,
even
you
know
it's
it's
if
nothing
else,
it's
economical.
H
I
just
heard
from
the
folks
at
run
shepard's
house
that
it's
24
per
night
per
person
to
shelter,
someone
at
second
street,
compare
that
to
spending
a
night
in
jail,
compare
that
to
spending
a
night
in
the
er.
Compare
that
to
any
of
the
above,
and
this
is
what
makes
the
most
economic
sense
for
our
community
too.
This
is
the
best
way
that
we
can
help
our
neighbors
to
get
some
good
outcomes
and
help
people
get
back
on
their
feet.
E
A
Way
of
talking
from
the
heart
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
so
I
do
want
to
say
yes
we're
talking
about
this
entire
issue
of
houselessness.
This
huge
issue,
this
little
slice
that
we're
discussing
tonight
is
just
the
shelter
code.
So
it's
only
for
shelters,
hummel
road,
not
a
shelter
other
place,
is
not
a
shelter.
We're
talking
about
shelters,
so
we've
mckayla's
covered
the
first
three
chris.
I
do
see
your
hand
up.
Do
you
have
a
question
that
relates
specifically
to
the
shelter
code.
N
A
D
Yes,
so
at
this
time
the
last
three
were
location
restrictions
for
shelters,
so
that
is
in
regard
to
being
next
to
schools
or
parks.
As
we
had
requested,
they
did
discuss
at
length
the
option
to
permit
outdoor
shelters
in
residential
districts
only
when
associated
with
the
public
or
institutional
use,
and
after
they
had
that
conversation,
they
did
not
decide
on
making
changes
or
not
making
changes.
So
my
understanding
is
that
that's
still
being
discussed.
D
Yes,
for
hardship,
housing,
the
black
bullets
there.
Those
are
all
options
that
they
have
discussed
so
reducing
the
length
of
time
for
hardship,
housing,
providing
a
longer
time
frame
between
applications,
prohibiting
rent
to
be
paid
and
identifying
users
of
the
hardship,
housing
application.
D
So
with
that
they
did
discuss
and
were
undecided,
and
then
they
did
not
get
two
requirements
for
shelters,
specifically
they're.
Looking
at
the
option
for
requiring
storage
in
shelters
which
they're
anticipating
getting
to
tonight,.
K
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
was
wondering
about
the
commission
money.
That's
just
been
afforded.
That
was
in
the
paper
this
morning.
The
ben
paper
is
the
thought
I
mean.
K
I
know,
there's
an
urgent
problem
and
morgan's
spoken
eloquently
to
it,
and
I'm
I'm
just
wondering
is
the
thought
here
that
these
code
provisions
will
now
be
sort
of
a
model
for
what
the
county
will
do,
and
I
mean
there's
sort
of
a
court
card
before
the
horse
issue
here
to
some
extent
now
that
that's
happened,
and
so
I
was
just
wondering
what
maybe
some
of
the
city
folks
envision
is
is
going
to
happen
when
we
implement
these
code
provisions
and
the
county
commission
then
starts
their
work
and
has
this
out
as
a
model.
K
D
R
K
R
R
Yeah
yeah,
which
is
as
a
side
note,
really
incredible
and
a
really
huge
step
forward.
I
mean
I,
I
don't
see
necessarily
the
the
these
code
changes
being
sort
of
the
the
primary
work
of
the
collaborative
office.
I
think
the
collaborative
office
is
going
to
be
focused
on
you
know,
one
having
a
a
a
coordinated
plan,
a
strategic
plan.
R
That's
actually
the
first
thing
that
that
this
office
is
supposed
to
do
between
not
only
bend
in
deschutes
county,
but
sisters
and
redmond,
and-
and
you
know
the
other
cities
in
in
deschutes
county.
You
know
what
what
we've?
What
we've
seen
is
that
we
we
absolutely
have
to
work
together
and
collaborate
on
it,
sort
of
a
shared
strategy
on
how
to
deal
with
this.
R
You
know
you
know
really
urgent
issue
in
our
community,
and
you
know
there
are
other
major
benefits
of
this
of
this
money
coming
into
our
community.
To
start
this
collaborative
office.
You
know
one
of
them
is
sustainable
funding.
One
of
the
things
that
we
we've
seen
you
know
over
and
over
is.
We
are
funding
a
lot
of
this.
R
A
lot
of
this
work
with
with
arpa
money,
and
we
need
to
find
sustainable
funding
not
only
for
for
future
shelters
but
also
for
for
our
service
providers
in
our
community
to
continue
so
they
can
increase
capacity
to
do
what
they
need
to
do
to
get
people.
You
know
on
the
path
to
self-sufficiency,
so
I
I
don't
think
that
the
code,
the
code
changes,
are
necessarily
sort
of
going
to
be
a
key
part
of
of
moving
forward.
R
D
Okay,
so
moving
from
here,
I
did
put
a
slide
together
just
with
discussion
to
date
for
the
nla,
and
these
are
all
items
that
I
have
heard
in
the
discussions
that
we've
had.
D
And
so
I
wanted
to
ask
the
group
if
there
are
other
considerations
that
should
be
included
in
this
nla
discussion.
What
I'm
going
to
do
is,
following
our,
I
guess,
recording
this
discussion,
I'm
going
to
follow
up
with
each
of
the
nla
reps
individually,
to
figure
out,
maybe
where
your
neighborhood
stands
on
these
certain
issues
and
if
you
need
help
reaching
out
to
the
your
membership
to
give
feedback.
D
But
I
do
want
to
have
a
conversation
with
you
each
individually,
because
we
have
been
talking
about
this
since
march,
and
so
I
imagine
that
it's
a
topic
of
conversation
on
your
boards
as
well,
and
so
I
would
just
love
to
know
where
people
are
at
so
that
when
we
do
meet
again,
I
can
have
a
letter
and
some
options
outlined
for
you
for
when
we
do
submit
something
to
city
council.
So
so
it's
hard
to
do
that
today,
because
planning
commission
hasn't
even
finalized
their
recommendations,
but
I
think
there's
some
work.
D
I
can
be
doing
just
to
understand
where
everyone's
at
and
then
what
I
would
say
too,
is:
if
the
planning
commission
wraps
up
their
meeting
tonight
and
closes
the
hearing,
then
we
may
be
going
to
council
in
early
april,
which
means
that
the
nla
might
need
to
move
our
meeting
up
early
in
order
to
gather
before
that
happens
and
and
come
up
with
some
sort
of
a
statement,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
as
far
as
schedule
goes
and
next
steps.
D
So
I'm
just
gonna
I
mean
we
have
a
few
minutes
left
opening
it
up.
For
anything
here
that
you,
I
guess
on
this
slide
in
particular,
that
you
don't
see
that
you
would
like
to
be
included
on
this.
A
D
I
think
summer,
so
yeah,
one
of
the
things
that
we
could
appreciate,
obviously,
is
that
the
planning
commission
added
items
under
the
good
neighbor
guidelines
to
clarify
and
what
needs
to
be
incorporated
in
those.
So
that's
something
we
could
do.
A
E
E
Okay,
well,
one
thing
that
came
up
tonight
is
an
education
program,
and
you
know
maybe
that's
one
thing
the
nla
can
to
propose
to
the
planning.
Commission
is
that
you
know
the
members
here
feel
that,
in
order
to
you
know,
alleviate
residents,
fears
about
the
shelter
code,
amendments
that
a
really
good
education
program
needs
to
be
formulated
to
show
what
it's
going
to
be
like.
E
E
A
C
A
E
Maybe
the
city,
one
thing
that
was
not
done
is
community
meetings.
You
know
I
go
back
to
an
issue
that
came
up
in
hp
2001.,
you
know,
eugene
held,
you
know,
community
meetings
all
over
the
city
talking
about
it,
city
of
bend,
could
do
the
same
thing.
They
didn't
choose
to
do
that
for
the
hp
2001,
but
this
would
be
a
good
opportunity
to
you
know
just
schedule
some
events
around
the
city.
You
know,
for
example,
you
know
dave
talked
about
the
you
know:
try
n
a
annual
meeting
in
july.
E
That
would
be
a
great
place
to
have
the
speaker
and
just
kind
of
go
through
it
and
answer
everybody's
questions.
I
mean
there
could
be
several
hundred
people
there.
If
you
know,
if
all
plans
come
to
fruition
there,
so
that'd
be
one
thing
to
do
and
perhaps
some
other
places
at
other
parks.
Thank
you.
R
Can
I
ask,
I
guess,
I'm
seeing
I'm
seeing
maybe
two
different
things
here.
One
is
the
education
piece
and
the
other
is
the
listening
piece,
and
so
I'm
a
little
confused
about
which
one
you're
you're
recommending.
Well,
I
can
tell
you
that
we
have
heard
from
a
heck
of
a
lot
of
people,
and
I
know
speaking
for
myself,
I
have
had
a
heck
of
a
lot
of
conversations
with
people
about
this.
R
R
I'm
I'm
not
seeing
a
lot
of
support,
support,
yeah,
rest
yeah,
I
mean
there's,
there's
not
a
lot
of
sort
of
receptive
audiences
that
I
have
encountered
trying
to
do
this
work
in
in
in
this
education
piece,
and
I
think
again
it
gets
back
to
this
sort
of
just
general
disagreement
about
the
difference
between
listening
and
agreeing
with
and
and
sort
of,
and
how
we
can
work
on
that
as
a
community.
A
K
I
think
there's
value
in
the
conversation
being
had,
though
whether
learning
occurs
because
of
the
conversations
maybe
ultimately
is
not
attainable
and
not
as
important
as
just
the
conversations
themselves
and
and
sort
of
to
riff
on
something
that
jim
was
saying.
K
R
A
C
D
It's
fine
I'm
going
to
follow
up
with
each
of
you
individually,
anyways,
and
so
I
will
do
a
lot
of
note-taking
during
that
time
and
then,
if
we
I'll
follow
the
planning
commission
meeting
tonight
and
provide
you
with
an
update,
what
happens
after
that
and
if
we
do
need
to
move
our
april
meeting
up.