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B
There
he
is
elizabeth
rose
here,
cathy
roche,
here
summer,
sears
oops
here
I've
never
seen
her
okay,
oh
there,
she
is
okay,
and
I
expect
we
probably
have
our
soon
to
be
appointed
sean
mcfadden
of
summit
west
in
the
audience
and
although
he
can't
participate,
I
will
welcome
sean
because
I'm
pretty
sure
he's
attending
there's
a
that
and
that
appointment
is
going
to
happen.
Jan
20,
council
meeting,
so
sean
will
be
with
us
at
our
february
meeting.
B
I
spoke
with
sean
a
couple
days
ago
actually
last
week
and
he
has
been
participating
or
at
least
attending
our
meeting,
so
he's
kind
of
up
to
speed.
This
will
be
his
third
meeting,
he
kind
of
knows
what
we're
doing.
He
and
I
took
some
time
to
do
a
little
background,
a
little
history
to
to
help
him
along
a
little
bit.
Next
up
approve
minutes
so
michaela.
If
you
would
summarize
the
three
things
that
elizabeth
got
and
then
I'll
call
on
kathy
for
one
more
at
least
starting
with
you
michaela.
C
Yeah
so
elizabeth
pointed
out
that
the
elementary
school
that
was
referenced
was
incorrectly
named
and
I
believe
we
have
determined
that
it
was
actually
lava
ridge
elementary
school.
So
that
needs
to
be
amended.
C
There
was
an
edit
needed
to
the
folks
who
volunteered
for
the
neighborhood
safety
working
group.
It
was
actually
kathy
roche,
elizabeth
rhodes
and
summer
sears,
who
volunteered
in
chat.
I
believe
objection,
okay
and
then
the
first
was
that
lisa
muscle
was
actually
the
one
two.
Second
the
minutes
at
the
last
meeting,
and
I
believe
it
says,
was
it
cathy
roche.
E
There
was
a
summary
of
what
I
had
said
about
how
carol
and
egan
came
to
white
acres,
neighborhood
association,
meeting
and
told
us
about
the
juniper
ridge
stuff,
and
it
said
the
nla
needs
to
tell
her
what
they
want,
but
it
should
say
the
n
a
the
for
the
neighborhood
association
rather
than
the
nla.
E
B
C
G
F
Report
it
was
reported
that
the
murphy
road
closure
was
about
six
months
and
there's
been
a
little
confusion
that
that
accident
could
be
as
long
as
ten
months,
ten
months
from
first
of
november
to
the
1st
of
september
2021,
I'm
not
sure
how
you
want
to.
H
F
B
F
I've
been
told
different
things
by
different
people.
People
on
the
you
know
at
the
work
area
said
to
me
about
six
months
from
december.
Perhaps
that's
what
I
reported,
but
in
talking
to
the
project
engineer
it's
you
know
up
to
about
august
31st.
So,
okay,.
B
F
B
Right,
okay,
so
after
that
motion
subject
to
those
changes
to
approve
the
minutes
was
made
by
dave.
B
C
I
B
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
For
most
of
you,
I
would
say,
since
only
four
of
us
go
back
to
the
beginning
of
the
nla
early
in
our
first
10
la
meetings,
we
had
the
opportunity
to
have
a
hack
present
to
us
as
well
as
bdap,
and
we
got
some
valuable
information,
but
that
was
a
while
ago.
We
have
a
lot
of
new
faces.
B
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
things
have
changed
in
the
last
two
and
a
half
years,
so
we
invited
the
affordable
housing
group
to
come,
particularly
specifically,
mcconnell,
to
come
and
give
us
a
bit
of
an
update,
and
for
some
of
us
it's
an
update
for
some
of
us.
It's
all
new,
I'm
gonna
I've
seen
her
presentation
at
least
the
slides
lots
of
good
information.
I'm
sure
it
will
stimulate
some
questions.
B
I
just
like
to
encourage
us
to
let's
try
and
wait
to
the
end,
because
often
we
find
out
our
questions
are
answered
by
all.
It's
always
the
next
slide
right,
but
with
that
being
said,
we
will
have
b
dab
in
the
future
as
well.
J
Hi
everyone
great
to
meet
you
and
to
you,
I'm
going
to
start
sharing
my
screen
if
it's
okay,
actually
before
I
do
that,
maybe
I'll
do
my
own
introduction
and
hand
it
over
to
our
a
hack,
chair,
cindy
king,
so
I'm
lynn
mcconnell,
I'm
the
city's,
affordable
housing
manager,
city
staff.
J
There
are
two
of
us
running
the
housing
program
here,
so
I'm
just
gonna
apologize
in
advance
for
how
long
it
may
take
me
to
respond
any
questions
that
come
via
email
after
this
meeting,
but
something
that
we
have
been
working
very
hard
on
since
I
came
on
board-
is
expanding
our
public
engagement
generally,
and
so
I'm
thrilled
to
have
this
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
all,
and
I
would
strongly
encourage
all
of
you
if
you
have
free
time
or
even
if
you
don't,
but
if
it's
of
interest
to
come
to
our
affordable
housing
committee
meetings
weekly.
J
So
we
actually
have
the
next
one
tomorrow
from
three
to
five
and
it's
going
to
be
funding
presentations
from
community
groups
who
are
interested
in
getting
funding
under
our
cdbg
or
community
development
block
grant
program.
J
It
will
be
a
very
full
meeting
and
if
I'm
going
to
cry
at
any
point
in
the
year
in
public
that
tomorrow's
meeting
is
going
to
be
it.
It's
just
amazing
to
hear
how
how
incredible
the
work
is
that
our
community
members
are
doing
and
how
we
get
to
support
that
so
excited
to
be
here
and
I'll
hand
it
to
cindy
to
say
hi.
K
Yes,
my
name
is
cindy
king,
I'm,
chair
of
the
affordable
housing
committee.
I've
been
the
chair,
for,
I
think
the
past
three
years.
Hans.
Thank
you
for
this
time.
I'll
just
do
a
quick
intro.
We
have
a
fantastic
committee
and
the
applications
that
were
received
for
housing
assistance
services.
It's
just
amazing
and
tomorrow
is
going
to
be
a
very
full
meeting.
K
If
you
can
join
us,
please
do
it's
it's
very
dynamic
and
we
have
just
a
wonderful
committee
and
there's
so
many
people
in
our
all
throughout
our
community
that
help
as
many
people
as
they
can.
It's
really
a
rewarding
experience.
So
thank
you
for
the
time
you're,
giving
us
for
this
and
I'm
going
to
send
it
back
to
lynn.
She's
got
a
slide
presentation
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
just
let
us
know.
Thank
you
so
much.
J
Okay,
so
please
let
me
know
when
you
see
my
screen
good
okay,
so
we
just
did
our
intro
for
you.
Oh
boy
come
on
advance.
Now,
let's
see
there,
it
is
so
I
thought
we
could
start
with
just
a
few
definitions
to
try
to
do
just
a
little
bit
of
grounding
about
what
we're
talking
about
because,
as
you
all
know,
oftentimes
people
use
the
term
affordable
housing
when
they
don't
mean
what
cindy
and
I
are
talking
about
today.
J
So
we
differentiate
that
to
some
degree
by
calling
it
lower
case
or
uppercase,
affordable,
the
uppercase
version
or
true,
affordable
housing
is
subsidized
housing.
That's
the
other
way
to
think
about
it.
Needed
housing
is
a
term
that
exists
in
oregon
land
use
law,
and
that
basically
means
everything
else
that
any
of
our
reports
or
analyses
show
is
needed
for
our
projected
growth
in
our
city
available
housing
is
whatever
actually
exists
right
now
for
folks
to
move
into,
if
they
so
chose
right.
J
So
most
of
the
housing
in
bend
is
not
available
right
now,
our
vacancy
rate
is
extraordinarily
low
and
then
middle
income
housing.
Some
people
call
this
workforce
housing.
I
have
a
soap
box
that
I
will
try
really
hard
to
stay
off
of
today
about
the
difference
between
middle
housing
and
workforce
housing.
The
reason
for
that
is
that
the
vast
majority,
in
fact
nearly
everybody
who's
in
affordable
housing,
is
working
last
check
that
I
had
with
gwen
wisely.
J
The
director
of
bethlehem
and
apar,
approximately
40
or
75
of
their
population
is
working
at
least
one
job,
so
workforce
housing
is
something
that
I
don't
particularly
love
that
term
I'd
like
to
call
it
middle
income.
J
So
here
is
what
we
are
talking
about
with
affordability
and
I'm
going
to
walk
you
guys
through
this.
So
first
off
ami
is
meet
area
median
income,
that
is
a
term
of
art
and
our
area.
Median
income
is
designated
each
year
by
hud,
the
federal
housing
and
urban
development
department.
J
We
don't
get
any
say,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
hud
does
not
move
quickly.
Many
of
you
probably
could
have
guessed
this
before
I
showed
up
here
today.
They
take
a
long
time
to
process
data
and
kind
of
spit
it
back
out
the
other
side.
So
typically,
the
incomes
that
we
work
with
on
any
given
year
are
actually
representative
of
what
was
happening
in
the
community
two
three
four
years
ago.
J
But
that's
what
we've
got
to
work
with
so
you'll
see
some
strange
swings
over
time
when
it
doesn't
really
make
sense-
and
you
just
have
to
remember-
that's
actually
what
was
happening
four
years
ago
and
that's
why
you're
seeing
this
shift
in
order
for
housing
to
be
affordable
for
ownership
properties,
that
housing
has
to
be
available
for
somebody
at
eighty
percent
of
area,
median
income
and
under.
So,
if
you
look
at
the
left
side
of
this
little
house,
you'll
see
those
horizontal
bars
and
there's
a
dark,
green
bar
a
little
ways
up.
J
That's
eighty
percent
ami
for
a
household
of
four.
They
can
make
up
to
sixty
one
thousand
three
hundred
dollars
gross
income
annually
and
they
would
potentially
qualify
for
that
affordable
housing
for
rentals.
You
have
to
be
at
sixty
percent
area,
median
income
or
under
in
order
to
qualify
and
that
number
for
family
four
again
is
forty:
five
thousand
nine
960.
These
are
the
the
current
ami
numbers.
J
What
that
means
is
on
the
right
side
of
this
chart,
you'll
see
where
rent
and
home
price
are
designated
here.
I
know
that
at
least
a
couple
of
you
out
there
realtors,
so
I
want
to
point
out
my
assumptions
down
in
the
lower
right
hand
corner
and,
as
you
will
realize,
some
of
these
assumptions
are
way
out
of
date,
even
though
I
only
did
this
maybe
two
years
ago,
for
the
first
time
nobody's
paying
5.143
in
interest
right
now,
right,
that's
out
of
date,
but
we
had
to
start
somewhere.
J
J
We
do
all
the
underwriting
internally
for
that
and
make
sure
that
everybody
qualifies
and
that
everything
is
where
it
needs
to
be
so
how
we
got
to
these
rent
and
home
price
numbers
are
that
hud
tells
us
nobody
should
be
spending
more
than
30
of
their
gross
income
on
housing
at
any
given
time
right,
whether
it's
by
month
or
by
year.
That's
what
that's
what
affordable
is
in
the
eyes
of
the
federal
government.
We
can
argue
all
day
long
about
that.
J
J
So
that's
what
those
numbers
represent
and
why
those
assumptions
are
in
there
and
then
you
can
see
throughout
kind
of
what
what
that
means
in
terms
of
our
employment
here
in
central
oregon.
So
the
numbers
that
are
represented
for
different
professions
are
actually
from
the
oregon
employment
department.
So
that's
that's
what
is
actually
happening
in
deschutes
county
right
now,
100
median
income
is
that
sort
of.
I
don't
know
what
color
that
is
michaela
you're
in
communication,
so
you
may
be
able
to
help
me
with
what
the
name
of
that
color
is.
J
any
questions
on
this
before
I
move
to
the
next
slide.
Okay,
I
guess
what
I
should
say
is
in
addition
to
a
household
qualifying,
because
they
have
sort
of
this
income
ceiling.
They
have
to
come
in
under
they
also
the
homes
that
are
being
rented
or
priced
for
sale
that
are
true,
affordable
homes
have
to
not
exceed
that
price,
and
there
is
some
variation.
You
know
down.
J
Payment
is
available,
let's
say
down
payment
assistance
that
might
raise
the
price
just
a
little
bit
and
keep
it
affordable
depending
on
how
those
loans
are
structured.
But
that's
roughly
what
we're
looking
at
here.
So
if
you
are
at
80
a.m,
but
let's
go
for
60
ami,
you
should
not
be
paying
more
than
11.40
in
rent
each
month
and
if
it
is
an
affordable
home,
you
have
to
keep
it
to
that
number
or
under
and
I'll
talk
more
about
sort
of
the
mechanisms
to
do
that
in
a
minute.
J
So
in
terms
of
what
that
looks
like
here
in
bend,
this,
unfortunately,
is
the
most
recent
data
we
have
and
part
of
that's
because
we
are
such
a
small
office,
typically
cities
who
are
doing
the
type
of
work.
We
do
have
five
to
six
people
in
the
office
and
and
we
are
too,
but
this
is
what
we've
got
and,
as
you
all
know,
with
the
census
data
on
our
exponential
growth.
J
I
believe
none
of
the
numbers
are
100
right
now,
we're
eagerly
awaiting
the
new
census
data
and
hoping
to
get
kind
of
a
reset
on
what
what
looks
like
the
world
out
there.
But
ultimately,
when
this
was
prepared,
you
can
see
where
that
60
ami
line
is
so
in
theory.
All
of
the
units
under
that
or
to
the
left
of
that
bar
are
what
should
be
out
there
in
the
market
and
are
not
so.
J
We
are
lacking
right
now
or
when
this
data
was
prepared,
approximately
5
000
units
for
people
making
about
25
000
per
year
and
under
that's
the
currently
that's
the
30
ami
level,
and
then
once
you
get
into
the
higher
income
ranges,
you
can
see
that
there's
actually
a
surplus
of
units
there,
and
so
what
happens
in
the
market
when
there's
this
sort
of
mismatch
of
the
units
available
or
homes
available
to
the
people
who
are
making
certain
incomes
in
the
city
is
that
you
see
people
getting
what's
called
rent
burden.
J
So
I'll
come
back
to
that.
But
do
remember
that
term.
For
now,
people
are
paying
for
housing
that
is
too
expensive
for
them,
because
that's
their
only
option
or
they're
doubling
tripling
quadrupling
up
in
housing,
and
you
guys
have
I'm
sure,
seen
examples
of
that
in
many
neighborhoods
in
bend
lots
of
different
households
living
in
one
place,
because
that's
the
only
way
they
can
make
it
work.
J
Through
acs
data,
primarily
so
and
that's
census
data,
that's
done
sort
of
on
update.
It's
really
just
forecasts.
Acs
is
forecast
on
a
five-year
rolling
basis.
So
what
this
consultant
did?
This
was
actually
prepared
by
echo
northwest
for
a
bench
2030
work
group
a
number
of
years
ago
that
some
of
you
may
recall
having
happened,
what
the
consultant
did
was
sort
of
match
up
what
the
home
prices
were
in
the
area
with
who
the
people
are
that
are
in
the
area.
J
L
M
J
J
This
is
all
of
oregon
actually
same
consultant,
but
this
was
used
for
presentations
of
the
legislature
a
couple
years
ago
between
2010
and
2016,
oregon
underbuilt
by
about
150
000
units
across
the
state,
and
what
this
map
is
representing
is
the
number
of
housing
units
built
compared
to
the
number
of
households
that
were
formed
right
so
every
time
a
kid
moves
out.
Every
time
somebody
moves
into
the
region.
Any
number
of
things
like
that
creates
a
new
household
and
we
built
during
that
time.
0.85
housing
starts
and
that's
not
completions.
J
J
J
So
this
is
exactly
why
you
are
seeing
these
massive
increases
in
the
market
and,
what's
interesting
to
me,
and
I
kind
of
geek
out
on
this,
as
you
guys
probably
can
tell,
is
seeing
this
whole
zoomtown
phenomenon
and
housing
advocates
have
been
talking
about
this
for
a
number
of
years
right
that
it's
supply
and
supply.
We
need
to
build
more.
We
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
kind
of
stabilize
rents,
and
then
the
zoomtown
thing
happened
and
all
of
a
sudden
across
the
country.
J
We
are
seeing
massive
shifts
in
the
markets
that
that
would
have
taken.
You
know
a
long
long
time
for
us
to
see
on
the
ground,
and
so
we
are
seeing
true
effects
where,
in
some
cases,
san
francisco,
for
instance
san
francisco
proper,
a
double
digit
decrease
in
rents
between
march
and
now,
because
all
of
a
sudden
san
francisco
is
not
the
place.
Everybody
wanted
to
live
during
copenhagen,
and
the
converse
is
happening
here
right,
we're
seeing
hugely
escalating
prices,
because
suddenly
ben
people
can
figure
out
how
to
live
here
and
still
work
elsewhere.
J
What
happens-
and
here
I
am
coming
back
to
my
initial
statement-
is
that
folks
get
rent
burned.
Rent
burden
is
when
you
pay
more
than
30
of
your
gross
income
for
housing.
Right
and
rent
burden
is
a
term
that
can
apply
to
any
income
level,
doesn't
matter
if
you
are
qualified
for
affordable
housing
or
not.
However,
people
who
are
making
let's
say
10
million
annually
and
choose
to
pay
more
than
3
million
annually
for
their
housing
have
a
very
different
circumstance
and
those
who
are
making
25
000
gross
right.
J
So
so
we
do
talk
and
there
are
people
who
are
rent
burdened
at
even
at
the
highest
levels.
That's
not
necessarily
where
the
focus
is
of
this
discussion.
J
Severe
rent
burden
is
when
you
are
paying
more
than
50
of
your
gross
income
towards
housing,
and
we
have
in
bend
over
26
of
our
renters,
who
are
severely
rent
burdened
right
now.
This
another
way
to
think
about
it.
We
also
you
can
call
it
cost
burden.
That's
another
term.
Some
people
call
it
house
poor
right.
You've
heard
that
term,
probably
where
house
poor
we
spent
too
much,
and
now
we
can't
go
out
with
you
to
the
movies
or
whatever
it
is.
So
that's
what
we're
talking
about
here
in
oregon.
J
This
chart
was
prepared
by
the
state
and
we
are
sent
this
data
annually
and
then
required
to
have
a
public
meeting.
If,
if
we
are
above
25
percent
of
our
residents,
that
are
severely
cost
burdened
each
year.
So
that's
where
we
are
26.5
and
you
can
see
kind
of
what
that
equates
to
in
actual
numbers.
J
So
increasing
home
prices
also
directly
affect
homelessness,
and
that's
another
reason
that
you
guys
are
seeing
out
there
on
the
streets.
A
significant
increase
in
homelessness.
We've
had
some
very,
very
significant
increases.
This
was
prepared
for
portland,
but
I
thought
it
emphasized
the
point
well
and
the
thing
that
I
would
like
you
all
to
remember
is
that
for
every
10
increase
in
rent
there
is
a
corresponding
13.6
increase
in
homelessness,
and
this
has
really
been
tracked
nationally,
pretty
considerably
over
the
years.
J
So
so
that's
a
huge
part,
not
the
only,
but
the
huge
part
of
why
we're
seeing
so
much
homelessness
in
bend
is
because
our
house
prices
are
escalating
and
recall
that,
right
now
we
are
still
under
a
rent
moratorium,
so
we're
seeing
them
escalate
even
now
when
people
should
be
in
very
stable
in
their
housing,
even
if
they're
unable
to
pay.
J
So,
I
think
we're
all
predicting
a
bit
of
a
wave
coming
depending
on
what
sorts
of
relief
exist
out
there
and
what
sorts
of
other
alternatives-
and
I
think
something
we're
also
very
cognizant
of-
is
it
in
central
oregon.
Quite
a
few
of
our
landlords
are
small,
mom
and
pop
type
owners.
They
may
own.
J
Three
properties
total,
including
the
one
they
live
in
and
so
being
aware
of
sort
of
what
this
might
do
to
the
foreclosure
market
is
also
really
important,
and
recently,
since
march
april,
we've
seen
very
suppressed
level
of
foreclosures
in
the
region
likely
because
of
the
moratorium
that
exists.
But
we
are
watching
this
very
carefully
and
sort
of
waiting
for
this
wave.
J
J
So
what
do
we
do
about
it?
So
this
is
where
the
affordable
housing
advisory
committee
comes
in,
and
this
is
a
chart
showing
what
code
has
designated
for
who
is
on
the
committee.
J
So
cindy
right
now
is
our
realtors
association
liaison
and
she
serves
that
role
well,
making
sure
that
the
actions
of
ahac
are
coordinated
as
much
as
possible
with
the
realtors
or
at
least
they're,
aware
of
the
decisions
that
are
being
made
and
able
to
weigh
in,
and
you
can
see
the
different
designations
here,
a
hack
was
set
up
to
be
a
technical
committee
right.
These
are
our
technical
experts
and
council
uses
them
as
such.
J
If
council
doesn't
know
how
certain
policies
will
actually
affect
the
market
or
work
or
whether
they'll
lead
to
anything
that
council
wants
them
to,
they
send
it
down
to
a
hack
to
chew
on
a
little
bit
and
ahec
does
also.
We
have
the
charge
of
doing
outreach,
specifically,
in
addition
to
sort
of
the
general
public
to
low
and
moderate
income
populations.
J
Right
now,
to
my
knowledge,
no
other
committee
in
the
city
of
bend
has
quite
that
same
charge,
so
that
is
designated
not
only
by
our
federal
funding,
cdbg
or
community
development
block
grant,
but
also
through
various
different
formats
that
we
have
to
follow
all
say.
So
we
do
a
lot
of
outreach,
particularly
to
the
low
and
moderate
income
community,
and
try
to
ensure
that
the
decisions
that
ahack
is
making
reflects
the
needs
of
that
community.
That's
the
charge
from
the
federal
government.
J
So
there's
a
number
of
different
ways
that
ahac
sort
of
fulfills
its
mission
to
to
ensure
that
the
residents
of
bend
have
appropriate
and
available
housing-
and
I
say
this
knowing
full
well
that
we
are
fighting
the
tide.
J
There's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
and
I
think
the
the
group
is
doing
the
best
they
can
with
what
they
have
right
now.
So
we
have
two
funding
sources
that
we
have
available
most
recently.
A
third
was
added
just
a
couple
weeks
ago.
Those
are
our
own,
affordable,
housing
fund.
You
may
be
aware
of
this
that
that
fund
was
the
first
created
in
the
state
of
oregon
to
fund
affordable
housing
bend
did
it
in
2006.
J
Shortly
after
there
was
a
prohibition
placed
on
any
other
cities,
creating
a
fund
such
as
ours
that
prohibition
was
lifted
in
2016,
and
these
funds
are
now
called
construction
excise
taxes,
so
the
bend,
affordable
housing
fund
is
assessed
on
every
permit.
That
comes
through
city
of
bend
at
a
rate
of
a
third
of
one
percent
that
generates
for
us
about
a
million
dollars
that
we
get
to
put
back
out
into
the
community
each
year.
J
As
you
can
imagine,
there
are
huge
fluctuations
with
that,
but
that
fund,
I
think,
has
been
extraordinarily
valuable
and
really
has
done
a
lot
to
move
housing
forward
in
the
city.
I'd
say
it's
our
number
one
tool
in
terms
of
being
able
to
put
affordable
housing
out
there
on
the
ground
and,
interestingly,
the
builders
association.
J
Let
us
know
during
the
last
downturn
that
we
were
the
largest
residential
construction
lender
in
the
region
during
the
last
downturn,
because
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
lag
between
when
building
permits
happen
and
are
assessed,
and
when
that
money
gets
put
back
out
into
the
community
right,
it
all
accrues
till
we
get
to
the
level
where
it's
worth
releasing
an
rfp
and
and
getting
the
money
out.
So
during
that
time,
0607
and
to
some
degree,
08
carried
us
through
the
recession
and
allowed
us
to
be
the
largest
construction
lender
in
town.
J
So
it
has
a
pretty
good
economic
benefit
as
well.
One
more
thing
to
know
is
that
we
never
intend
and
don't
have
enough
money
to
fully
fund
any
of
the
developments
that
are
happening
in
bend.
Our
most
recent,
affordable
housing
fund
rfp
had
a
leverage
ratio.
500
000
is
what
we
put
out
and
the
leverage
of
the
winning
proposals
was
80
million.
So
that's
80
million
additional
dollars
that
came
to
bend
because
of
500
000
from
the
city,
which
is
pretty
phenomenal
I'll,
say
not
to
mention
all
the
jobs
etc.
J
Our
other
I'd
say
most
powerful
tool
is
surplus
property,
and
this
is
a
real
example
in
front
of
you
right
now
so
to
the
left
of
this
photo
is
the
police
station.
The
brand
new
fire
station
is
just
below
outside
of
the
the
photo
and
that's
highway
20
at
the
top,
so
pilot
butte
is
basically
right
across
the
street
and
then
that
blue
building
on
the
right-
that's
lava
lanes.
J
So
you
can
imagine
I
would
encourage
you,
there's
actually
construction
going
on
right
now,
but
if
you
were
to
drive
by
this
little
slice
of
property
there's
some
kind
of
crazy
angles,
especially
on
that
northern
parcel.
This
was
a
parcel
that
everybody
looked
at
and
said:
there's
that's
worthless
right!
Well,
it's
becoming
26
units
right
now
over
some
commercial
space
for
developmentally
just
delayed
adults.
So
really
really
needed
housing
for
folks
who
have
a
really
tough
time
making
it
out
in
the
real
world,
and
this
sort
of
you
know
quote
unquote
worthless.
J
Land
is
becoming
something
very
valuable
to
the
community,
so
we're
really
excited
this
is
going
on
this
one.
Oh,
I
was
just
going
to
tell
you
what
it's
called
and
now
I
can't
remember
the
real
name.
We
call
it
forbes
lane,
but
phoenix
crossing
is
what
it's
called
so
keep
an
eye
out
and
you
can
kind
of
monitor
their
construction
they're,
making
a
big
old
mess
right
now,
but
hopefully
it'll
start
looking
more
like
a
building
in
the
near
term.
J
We
also,
as
you
all
know,
do
a
ton
of
work
on
code
and
policy.
The
affordable
housing
committee
is
out
there
working
in
the
community
through
their
liaisons
and
connections,
and
brings
back
a
lot
of
great
ideas.
We
also
typically
at
least
once
a
year,
have
a
meeting
to
solicit
input
from
the
community.
What
do
you
think
the
community
needs?
How
would
you
solve
this
problem
if
you
had
the
opportunity?
J
What
are
policies
that
are
getting
in
your
way,
and
we
do
quite
a
bit
of
that
outreach
and
engagement
with
the
community
to
make
sure
that
we
are
tackling
what
we
can
and
what's
within
our
purview,
we
can't
fix
every
market
condition,
but
we
do
have
control
over
some
of
the
pieces
and
that's
really
what
we
work
within
to
the
best
of
our
ability.
A
little
bit
of
state
work
also,
but
the
committee
does
a
little
bit
less
of
that.
J
So
that's
kind
of
the
affordable
side
and
I'm
going
to
take
a
little
switch
over
here
now
kind
of
a
weird
photo.
It
got
a
little
more
cut
off
than
I
wanted
to
talk
about
missing
middle
housing.
That's
what
this
photo
is.
Super
picture
is
supposed
to
represent
the
second
strategy
that
a
hack
uses
to
the
best
of
their
ability
is
trying
to
incentivize
lower
cost
market
options.
We
cannot
subsidize
our
way
out
of
this
completely.
We
just
can't
there's
not
enough
money
out
there.
J
I
would
love
to
try
someday,
but
we're
not
there,
and
so,
instead
of
trying
to
look
at
subsidy
as
the
only
available
option,
we
have
to
incentivize
the
market
to
provide
what
we
need
for
folks
who
don't
qualify
for
affordable
housing
which,
as
you
remember
from
the
house
slide,
is
quite
a
few
people,
so
the
work
that
we're
doing
and
that
we,
our
two
groups
have
interacted
with
the
most
is,
is
tends
to
be
in
this
category.
J
How
do
we
incentivize
the
market
and
how
can
we
get
them
to
deliver
lower
cost
housing
within
the
constraints
that
we
have
and
again,
there's
there's
not
a
lot
right.
I
can't
personally
control
land
value.
I
can't
control
who's,
getting
money
lent
to
them,
and
at
what
point?
And
at
what
interest
rate
you
know,
I
can't
figure
out
what
sorts
of
requirements
are
going
to
get
put
into
the
building
code,
that
we
could
in
some
way
change
right.
Those
things
are
all
out
of
our
control
among
many
many
others.
J
So
we
have
a
few
levers
that
we
are
able
to
pull
and
those
are
things
like
how
how
dense
a
development
may
be
or
new
development
is
allowed
to
be
what
housing
types
are
available,
because
the
theory
here
with
these
middle
income,
housing
units
or
missing
metal
housing
types
is
maybe
a
better
way
of
putting
it
is
that
in
many
cases
you
can
develop
two
units
for
pretty
close
to
the
the
price
of
one,
and
it
rarely
turns
out.
J
Quite
that
perfectly
you
know
nobody's
getting
charged
50
when
they
could
have
been
charged
100.
However,
the
more
units
you
can
get
onto
a
piece
of
land,
because
we
know
that
land
is
one
of
the
costliest
elements
of
housing
development
right
now,
the
less
cost
there
is
overall
and
the
less
costs
will
be
passed
along
to
the
borrowers.
So
we
really
look
hard
at
what
opportunities
may
be
available
to
to
provide
incentives
to
the
market,
and
we've
seen
some
really
great
success
with
that.
J
I
don't
have
the
slide
in
this
deck,
but
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
have
seen
the
slide
of
adus
in
bend
over
time.
It's
been
amazing
to
watch
the
progression
as
certain
code
requirements
were
changed
to
see
adus
take
off
and
that
the
market
is
providing
that
housing
type
for
the
community
without
subsidy
does
everybody
want
to
live
in
an
adu?
J
Hopefully
that
makes
sense
so
production
lisa.
This
one
is
for
you.
This
is
an
old
snapshot,
I'm
so
sorry.
I
tried
to
update
some
of
our
images,
some
of
the
data
in
the
last
couple
days
and
there
were
some
issues,
so
I
have
to
figure
that
out
and
did
not
have
time
to
do
it
before
today.
But
ultimately,
this
is
our
map
of
affordable
housing
in
bend.
This
is
available
on
the
boom
mapping
application.
So
it's
public
and
each
of
you
can
see
it.
We
intentionally
created
sort
of
an
airbnb
style
situation.
J
If
you
all
are
familiar.
Those
dots
get
bigger
as
the
map
zooms
in,
so
that
on
some
of
these,
you
won't
be
able
to
tell
exactly
which
tax
slot.
That
is
that's
because
a
number
of
these
are
single
family
homes,
and
we,
just
you
know
it's
public
record.
You
guys
should
ask
me
for
that,
and
I
would
give
it
to
you.
However,
some
of
these
folks,
I
think
it
makes
sense
they
blend
really
well
into
the
neighborhood.
J
You
would
not
know
that
this
is
affordable
housing
and
that's
really
our
goal
so
of
interest
and
lisa.
I
wanted
to
mention
this
to
you
as
well
again,
there's
a
lot
more.
That's
happened
since
this
slide
was
taken,
but
this
gives
you
a
sense
that
it
really
is
just
about
everywhere
in
bend.
Northwest
crossing,
which
I
would
expect
most
folks
on
this
call
are
familiar
with,
is
actually
about
eight
percent
deed,
restricted,
affordable
housing.
J
That
means
that
we
have
put
restrictions
on
the
title
that
mean
of
that
property
or
properties
that
mean
that
that
property
will
be
affordable
for
a
term
of
at
least
60
years,
so
about
eight
percent
of
northwest
crossing
fits
that
and
again,
if
we
are
doing
our
job
well,
you
have
no
idea
that
it's
affordable
housing
when
you're
driving
by
it
just
looks
like
just
another
thing.
J
J
We
do
not
have
the
ability
to
direct
all
funding
to
one
area
of
town
that
would
most
likely
be
a
fair
housing
violation.
So
our
goal
is
really
trying
to
do
our
best
to
ensure
that
every
neighborhood
has
a
little
bit
of
affordable
housing
in
it.
Just
as
the
city
over
time
is
trying
to
come
to
create,
what's
called
complete
communities
where,
for
instance,
you'll
have
you
know,
neighborhood
commercial
near
you
and
I'm
using
that
the
non-technical
version
of
that
statement.
You
know
neighborhood
amenities.
J
Let's
say
that
are
commercial
kind
of
a
kind
of
northwest
crossing
again
those
of
you
who
watch
the
southeast
area
plan
last
night,
very
similar
concept,
let's
put
stuff
close
to
where
people
live,
so
that
they
don't
have
to
always
be
in
their
car,
wrecking
our
roads,
and
you
know,
burning
gas
basically,
and
so
that's
an
idea
that
takes
a
long
time
to
come
to
fruition,
but
that's
really
what
we're
working
on
and
similarly,
we
want
to
see
affordable
housing
in
every
neighborhood
in
bend
as
well.
J
We
know
that
by
providing
stable
housing
in
higher
wealth
areas,
children
of
low-income
families
do
better
in
school
and
on
a
number
of
different
things
and
there's
zero
change
to
the
higher
income
students
that
are
already
there
and
that's
removing
all
the
other
factors
like
family
dynamics
and
how
family
oversight,
let's
say,
plays
into
academic
success,
so
very
purely
getting
kids
into
better
schools
helps,
and
here
are
a
handful
of
images
of
some
of
the
properties
that
we
have
worked
on
over
the
years.
Many
of
you
recognize
putnam
point
right
there
in
the
middle.
J
I
call
it
a
good
sign
of
good
development
when
the
visitor
center
wants
to
locate
in
an
affordable
housing
development.
To
me,
that
means
we,
we
got
it.
It
looks
okay,
we
did
okay
and
that's
exactly
what
this
was
button
point
was
actually
designed
as
a
mixed
income
community.
J
Originally
with
that
top
floor
of
lofts
being
market
rate,
and
then
they
it
came
about
in
the
middle
of
the
recession
and
all
of
a
sudden
financing
dried
up,
and
so
they
changed
it
into
a
fully
affordable,
building,
really
great
opportunity
to
kind
of
surround
the
parking
garage
as
they
do
and
provide
some
amenity
right
next
to
downtown
so
great
location.
For
folks,
the
two
on
the
left
are
in
northwest
crossing
and
then
a
couple
multi-family
buildings
on
the
right.
J
I
have
one
list
of
potential
resources.
Michaela
has
this,
I
may
add
a
couple
michaela
and
then
send
it
back
out
to
you,
because
I
did
add
that
production
map
as
well,
but
I
thought
that
this
might
be
some
good
resources
for
you
all.
If
you
want
some
homework,
housing
cost
zoning
and
access
to
high
scoring
schools.
J
That
has
a
lot
of
basis
in
how
ahac
has
approached
the
missing
middle
housing
conversation
as
well
as
why
it's
so
important
for
us
to
get
affordable
housing
in
all
areas
of
the
region
on
our
web
page
down
at
the
bottom
bunch
of
different
things.
An
analysis
of
impediments
to
fair
housing
is
a
deep
dive
staff
report
required
by
hud.
J
So
I
apologize
for
the
formatting,
it's
their
fault,
not
ours,
but
the
analysis
is
in
there
and
pretty
interesting,
in
my
opinion,
to
sort
of
what
demographic
factors
we're
looking
at
are
there
concentrations
of
different
protected
classes
in
any
parts
of
town?
You
know
what
should
bend
work
on
to
improve
sort
of
our
overall
health
of
our
citizens
moving
forward
and
a
variety
of
other
things.
The
turner
center
is
another
thing
that
I
thought
you
all
may
be
interested
in.
That's
a
new
organization
stood
up
at
the
university
of
berkeley
in
california.
J
I
believe
that
there's
facebook
money
in
there
I'm
not
entirely
sure,
and
they
do
a
ton
of
data
and
reports
on
housing
and
sort
of
what
the
tools
are
that
are
out
there.
The
dashboard
to
me
is
fascinating.
It
is
based
in
the
san
francisco
bay
area,
so
it's
not
an
apples
to
apples
comparison
with
bend,
but
what
you
can
do
is
play
with
different
factors:
lot
size,
height,
sdc's
and
c
costs,
and
slide
these
little
bars
left
and
right
and
get
different
sort
of
results
on
how
likely
a
property
is
to
develop.
J
So
it's
a
great
way
if
you,
google,
that
you
should
be
able
to
find
it.
I
can
also
put
a
link
in
if
that's
helpful,
I
just
wasn't
sure
if
that
would
come
through,
and
so
it's
a
really
fun
one
to
play
with
to
get
a
sense
of
some
of
the
considerations
in
development
that
really
have
big
effect
and
how
that
might
help.
J
It's
everything
from
timing,
honestly
and
even
just
the
addition
of
five
days
can
kill
a
project
if
that
project
isn't
particularly
strong
to
start
with,
so
a
really
fun
one
to
play
with,
and
then
the
up
for
growth
oregon
under
production
report
is
where
that
big
state
map
came
that
showed
we
have
only
built,
you
know,
0.85
housing
starts
per
household,
that's
where
that
came
from.
So
with
that,
I
think
that
that's
it
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
the
pretty
pictures.
J
We
have,
I
think,
competing
interest
there.
I'll
say
that
in
terms
of
how
short-term
rentals
are
dealt
with
in
the
city-
and
I
mean
across
the
city-
not
just
my
feelings
number
one
is
that
I
think
there's
a
strong
feeling
amongst
our
community
that
they
should
have
certain
members
of
our
community.
They
should
have
control
of
the
property
they
own
right
and
so
there's
that
interest
and
if
city
of
bend
takes
certain
privileges
away
that
may
have
existed
before
we
can
have
a
takings
issue,
which
is
a
big
deal.
J
That
means
we
are
liable
to
that
homeowner
for,
for
what
we
have
taken
from
them.
Oregon
has
a
pretty
crazy,
taking
slot
on
the
other
side
of
that
is
the
need
for
housing
production
and
whether
or
not
those
homes
would
have
fallen
anywhere
near
affordable.
I
don't
have
a
perfect
answer
for
that.
I
do
know
that
of
the
700,
something
licensed
rentals
that
we
have.
J
We've
done
the
analysis
on
at
what
point
were
those
purchased
and
what
was
the
median
income
and
affordable
rate
at
the
time,
and
I
think
there
were
like
three
that
could
have
been
sold
in
an
affordable
range
at
the
time
that
they
were
sold.
So
I'm
waiting
for
council's
queue
to
bring
that
information
forward
a
little
bit
more
and
have
that
discussion.
J
But
that's
really
kind
of
the
best
answer
I
have
is
that
from
what
we
know,
none
of
those
would
have
been
or
very
few
available
for
true,
affordable
housing
and
it's
a
balancing
act.
That's
all
I
can
say
yeah
cindy
did
you
want
to
say
it
I'm
so
sorry,
I
did
not
stop
and
offer
you.
K
Yeah,
let
you
catch
your
breath
now.
I
just
wanted
to
throw
out
that
there
is
also
a
percentage
of
the
short-term
rental
properties
that
they're
not
just
fake.
You
know
for
vacationers.
They
provide
housing
for
nursing
staff,
who
are
here
for
three
months
at
a
time
or
people
that
are
between
homes
if
they
get
a
job
relocation.
K
K
J
C
Lisa
did
put
a
couple
in
the
chat
and
I
see
karen
just
raised
her
hand.
So,
however,.
C
J
Thank
you
yeah.
So
this
is
definitely
not
my
area
of
expertise,
though
I
do
try
to
follow
along
because,
of
course,
every
decision
that
the
city
makes
has
some
impact
on
my
work.
So
the
good
news
is
you
all
just
passed
a
significant
transportation
bond
and
within
that
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
money
focused
on
connections,
east-west
on
alternative
transportation
routes
such
as
neighborhood,
greenways
and
bike
and
ped
routes.
Without
a
doubt,
it's
not
perfect.
J
It's
gonna
take
time,
so
I
think
that
there's
a
multiple
pronged
approach
to
that
one
is
improving.
What
we
have
and
the
bond
speaks
to,
that
one
is
creating
what
we
don't
currently
have
and
the
bond
is
a
part
of
that,
but
that's
an
ongoing
process
and
I
don't
think
we're
ever
going
to
get
to
perfect.
J
We
just
have
to
keep
sort
of
taking
bites
of
the
elephant
as
they
say,
and
the
third
is
ensuring
that
we
are
working
towards
complete
communities.
That
is
that
you,
all
in
theory,
could
only
drive
within
a
quarter
mile
or
a
half
mile
for
everything
that
you
need
and
when
you
were
in
that
level
of
proximity
to
all
of
the
services
that
you
need
at
least
theoretically,
you
could
walk
or
bike
very
easily.
J
If
you
live
on
the
west
side,
that's
that's
always
going
to
be
the
case,
but
if
we
can
take
some
of
those
other
needs
for
services
and
amenities
and
put
them
a
little
bit
closer
and
then
maybe
you're
reducing
those
car
trips
from
daily
down
to
you
know
every
few
days
or
once
a
week
to
costco
or
whatever
it
is
so
so
I
think
that,
hopefully
that
helps
answer.
I
don't
have
the
silver
bullet.
For
that
one
either
I
mean.
J
Ultimately,
cities
are
being
expected
to
provide
a
lot
more
transportation
infrastructure
than
even
20
30
years
ago,
and
so
we
are
still
I'd
say
we
collectively-
and
I
mean
the
community
as
well
grappling
with
how
to
do
that
effectively
without
bankrupting
everybody
in
town.
J
So
I
don't
have
the
silver
bullet
on
that,
but
I
would
encourage
this
group
to
continue
to
stay
active
in
transportation
discussions
and
weigh
in
on
those
needs.
Okay,
so
livability
is
a
great
question.
I'm
glad
you
brought
this
up
and
I
think
livability
means
a
lot
of
things
in
eugene.
What
that
means
is
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
J
That's
how
they've
structured
it
with
the
idea
that
a
lot
of
folks
typically
are
not
part
of
the
livability
discussions
that
folks,
like
you,
guys,
have
right,
there's
a
significant
part
of
the
population
that
may
not
be
able
to
come
to
regular
meetings.
You
know
during
the
working
day
because
they're
working
and
they
don't
have
that
flexibility
from
their
employer,
and
so
it
can
mean
a
lot
of
things
to
a
lot
of
people.
J
J
We
have
significant
challenges
in
some
of
our
community
members,
and
I
think
that
ahac
believes
that
they
are
speaking
for
those
folks,
because
that's
so
directly
how
they
are
reaching
out
for
engagement
and
looking
at
data
and
ensuring
the
way
that
we
have
been
planning
cities
for
the
last
30
years
is
not
working.
It
is
not
working.
We
are
increasing
vehicle
miles,
traveled
largely
we
are
leaving
out
substantial
portions
of
our
population.
J
That
is
a
really
hard
message
to
hear
if
you
kind
of
like
the
neighborhood,
you
live
in
and
it's
more
representative
of
sort
of
an
older
way
of
development,
and
I
realize
that
and
I
apologize
for
being
the
messenger,
if
I'm
the
only
one
who
said
it
quite
like
that,
but
it
really
is
about
finding
the
livable
way
for
the
entire
population
and
not
just
the
few
folks
who
can
stand
up
and
have
free
time
and
additional
resources
to
get
what
they
want.
I
hope
that
helps
the
answer.
C
Thanks
lynn,
in
the
interest
of
time
we'll
go
to
karen
and
then
I
will
share
lynn's
information
with
you
all.
So
if
you
have
follow-up
questions,
we
can
reach
out
to
her
via
email.
N
I
just
had
a
question
about
parking,
because
a
lot
of
this
kind
of
development
has
very
little
parking
requirements
or
no
parking
requirements,
and
that
really
impacts
the
surrounding
neighborhood,
sometimes
because
the
the
residents
are
forced
to
park
on
the
streets
and
that
may
not
allow
parking
for
the
other
neighborhood
people
that
are
already
there.
So
how
do
you
balance
the
parking
needs
with
lowering
the
cost
of
the
housing
by
basically
not
having
parking
available?
J
Yeah,
it
totally
makes
sense.
Thank
you.
So
I
think
two
things
number
one
is
sort
of
the
missing
middle
housing
slide
that
I
showed
you
that
is
very
different
and
right
now
the
shots
are
being
called
by.
The
state
who
has
said
parking
is
a
barrier
to
development.
We
need
housing
developed
in
all
neighborhoods
and
therefore
there
should
be
very
little
parking
if
any
required.
J
So
I'll
put
that
out
there.
You
can
agree
or
disagree
with
me
as
you
choose
for
affordable
housing,
it's
different
and
that
absolutely
does
follow
the
development
code.
There
is
a
reduction
in
parking
and
there's
more
and
more
research
coming
out
on
how
over
parked
things
are.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
noticed
if
you
guys
are
on
social
media
or
not.
J
There
was
a
really
funny
thing
I
didn't
know
what's
happening
until
I
saw
it
showing
up
on
social
media
around
new
year's
and
christmas,
a
bunch
of
people
drove
to
different
commercial
facilities
on
black
friday.
Granted
this
year
is
a
little
different
and
took
pictures
of
how
full
those
parking
lots
were,
and
in
most
cases
it
was.
You
know
a
sea
of
nothing
right.
There's
a
handful
of
cars
this
year
again
was
different,
so
I'm
not
putting
any
sort
of
scientific
faith
in
this
experiment.
J
It
was
kind
of
a
fun
little
social
media
exercise
to
just
sort
of
chuckle
at.
But
ultimately
I
think
that's
true
with
a
lot
of
things.
I
live
on
a
street
in
southwest
where
there
are
two
cars
on
my
street.
Although
this
street
was
designed
to
have
cars
on
both
sides,
the
streets
are
not
designed
for
speed,
and
I
know
this
is
going
to
make
everybody
really
happy
with
me
as
well.
J
J
I'll
say
where
it
was
like
at
least
me
like
I'm,
going
from
a
to
z
to
b
and
I'm
getting
there
as
quickly
as
I
can,
and
if
that's
for
the
neighborhood,
that's
through
the
neighborhood
and
if
it's
on
a
parkway,
it's
on
a
parkway,
that's
sort
of
how
I've
been
programmed,
as
I
grew
up
like
you
know,
fast
fast
fast,
including
on
neighborhood
streets.
Those
streets
are
designed
to
take
people
a
lot
of
time
to
work
through.
That
is
the
goal
of
them
and
to
prevent
accidents,
particularly
those
that
risk
life.
J
So
again,
I
know
this
is
not
great
news,
but
the
idea
is
to
have
people
park
on
streets
and
I'm
not
a
transportation
engineer.
I'm
parroting
what
I've
heard
them
say
many
many
times
according
to
best
practice
across
the
country,
so
affordable
housing
does
have
parking
requirements.
J
That
is
in
the
code,
and,
what's
interesting
to
me,
is
that
although
we
offer
this
parking
reduction,
which
is
down
to
a
half
a
space
per
unit,
instead
of
a
full
space,
typically,
we
only
see
that
within
a
handful
of
spaces,
so
most
people
actually
do
build
out
to
the
market
rate
code,
not
the
affordable
code,
and
they
recognize
a
lot
of
folks
that
that's
what's
needed
right.
Most
of
our
folks,
unlike
in
big
cities
where
properties
are
developed
and
then
sold
pretty
quickly.
J
Welcome
welcome
and
I
would
encourage
you
to
voice
your
opinions
at
these
neighborhood
meetings
and
I
would
also
encourage
you
to
drive
through
some
of
the
affordable
housing
developments
you
can
find
them
with
that
map
that
I
showed
you
a
little
while
ago
and
see
how
full
those
parking
lots
are.
Some
really
are
some
are
not,
but
it
tends
to
be,
in
my
opinion,
the
market
rate
folks,
who
are
doing
a
little
bit
more
challenging
job
I'll,
say
on
providing
enough
parking,
and
that's
just
my
observation.
B
Lynn,
thank
you
and
we
could
go
on
because
it's
an
interesting
topic
and
it's
new
to
a
lot
of
the
folks
here,
as
is
the
information
michaela,
can
get
make
sure
everyone
has
your
contact
information
for
follow-up
questions
and
thank
you
for
the
invite
to
participate
going
forward.
I
think
the
more
we
understand
the
more
we
can
work
collaboratively
on
these
mutual
goals,
but
I
do
want
to
move
on
and
again
thank
you
cindy
as
well,
but
I
do
want
to
move
on
to
our
working
group
updates.
This
point.
D
O
Terrific,
hopefully,
this
is
going
to
keep
me
a
little
bit
more
on
track.
So
I'm
here
to
actually
talk
about
three
things:
give
you
a
an
update
on
the
land
use
education
plan
as
well
as
hb
2001,
and
the
draft
code
amendments
just
as
a
reminder
on
the
education
plan.
O
O
You
just
received
an
email
from
michaela,
I
believe
in
the
last
week
regarding
the
interactive
zoning
map,
and
it's
really
important
that
you
guys
test
out
that
map
and
give
us
some
feedback
on
on
what
you're.
Seeing
there
and
then
many
of
the
land
use
chairs
and
a
few
of
the
the
neighborhood
association
chairs
have
been
reviewing
other
documents,
in
particular
the
land
use
chair
education
guide,
and
I
very
much
appreciate
everybody
that
submitted
comments.
O
I
think
we're
going
to
end
up
with
a
really
fabulous
resource
and
then
michaela
and
city
staff
they've
been
working
on
finalization
of
the
developer
packet.
I
believe
that
is
very,
very
close.
I
think
jacob
has
been
working
on
that
right,
michaela
and
I
think
he
was
just
working
on
a
a
couple,
more
graphs
for
us,
so
we're
looking
forward
to
reviewing
that
this
week's
land
use
education
or
land
use
working
group
meeting
our
project
timeline.
As
a
reminder,
you
know
we.
O
We
really
kicked
this
off
last
september
last
july,
and
we
are
here
in
january
and
march.
We
are
on
target
with
regard
to
the
resource
materials.
We
expect
to
have
most
of
the
materials
completed
between
this
month's
meeting
and
next
month's
meeting
january
february.
That
may
carry
over
a
little
bit
into
march
in
terms
of
finalization
and
I'll,
be
coming
back
to
this
group
to
highlight
how
we
think
we're
going
to
be
rolling
this
out,
and
what
april
through
june
is
going
to
look
like
with
the
rollout
of
these
materials.
O
My
next
topic:
hb
2001.
I
was
really
happy
that
that
karen
brought
up
that
question
regarding
parking,
because
that
was
a
pretty
big
topic
at
the
last
meeting
and
just
as
an
overview,
a
reminder
of
what
is
hb
2001.
O
This
is
a
provision
that
allows
for
middle
housing
in
areas
where
single
family
dwellings
are
allowed.
So
this
could
change
much
of
the
the
single
family
zoning
in
bed,
and
this
will
mean
that,
rather
than
single
family,
we
could
have
duplexes
triplexes,
quads,
townhouses
and
cottage
clusters
on
those
properties.
O
We
have
a
good
number
of
properties
in
bend
that
are
subject
to
hoas
or
ccnr's,
and
we
have
a
concern
about
how
that's
going
to
play
out
down
the
road.
So
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
in
just
a
second.
So
why
does
this
matter
to
us?
You
know
the
changes
here,
they're
going
to
affect
every
neighborhood
association.
O
We
do
have.
You
know
the
makeup
of
this.
O
The
makeup
of
this
group
currently
the
stakeholder
group
that
participates
with
the
city
and,
in
particular
with
pauline
it's
comprised
of
a
lot
of
people
and
we're
very
fortunate.
We've
got
five
people
from
the
neighborhood
associations.
O
So
I
want
to
let
that
sink
in
a
little
bit.
What
you
can
do
you
know
we
do
need
more
participation.
O
I
mentioned
one
of
our
big
concerns.
We
are
aware
of
a
property
owner
here
in
bend
in
one
of
our
neighborhoods,
who
is
simply
waiting
for
hb
2001
to
be
approved
and
then
he's
going
to
be
filing
his
application
and
he's
going
to
attempt
to
put
in
a
multi-unit
development
in
an
area
that
currently
has
ccnr's
and
an
hoa,
so
in
other
words,
he's
going
to
disregard
the
ccnr's
and
hoa
rules
and
he's
going
to
proceed
with
an
application
fully
intending
that
this
is
going
to
be
legally
challenged.
O
The
issue
with
this
is
that
particular
hoa
is
not
a
very
strong
hoa.
They
may
not
have
the
money
for
any
kind
of
legal
challenge,
and
so
we
don't
have
any
precedence.
We
don't
have
enough
information
at
this
point,
but
this
is
one
of
our
big
concerns
about
how
this
is
going
to
play
out.
I
think
that
many
of
us
in
the
neighborhood
associations
realize
that
we
absolutely
do
need
more
housing,
but
we
do
need
to
be
thoughtful
and
we
need
to
be
careful
about
how
we
implement
it.
O
That's
it
for
hb
2001..
Last
night
we
had
the
planning
commission
meeting.
It
was
a
long
one
guys
it
was
three
hours
long,
but
at
that
meeting
we
had
approval
for
three
out
of
the
five
provisions
that
we
were
pushing
forward
on,
and
so
this
isn't
really
any
different
than
what
I
reported
to
you
last
year
or
excuse
me
last
month,
which
also
was
last
year.
I'm
right,
but
next
up
be
aware
that
we're
now
moving
in
front
of
the
city
council.
O
That
meeting
is
going
to
be
on
january
20th
and
we'll
have
the
public
meeting.
The
time
of
that
meeting
is
7
p.m.
I
just
want
to
real
quickly
overview
the
three
provisions
that
are
moving
forward,
so
remember
that
we
are
increasing
the
notification
area
for
type
3
development
applications
and
we
requested
to
move
that
from
250
feet
to
500
feet
that
was
approved.
I
should
add
that
the
counselors
or
excuse
me,
the
planning
commission
people
in
particular,
commissioner,
is
it
jorgensen
or
excuse
me?
O
It's
johansen
suzanne
suzanne
brought
up
the
issue
of
needing
to
send
the
notices
to
the
doors
list,
not
just
to
the
owners.
So
this
is
above
and
beyond
what
we
had
requested
and
it's
something
that
she's
asked
city
staff
to
pursue
so
hopefully
colin
can
help
us
better
understand
what
the
cost
impact
is
going
to
be
with
a
change
like
that,
and
then
I
believe
we're
going
to
request
that
potentially
to
be
added
on
maybe
with
hb
2001,
but
in
a
future
code
change.
So
that
was
the
first
change
that
was
approved.
O
Second,
one:
the
notification
signs.
We
had
originally
requested
that
the
signs
be
posted
and
be
legible
from
the
right
of
way.
That's
been
changed,
they're
going
to
be
posted
within
10
feet
from
the
right
of
way,
so
we
we
made
some
headway
there
and
then
the
notification
signs
will
be
posted
throughout
the
comment
period.
O
O
The
the
items
that
we
are
on
hold
so
the
first
item
extending
the
minimum
notice
for
neighborhood
public
meetings
to
21
days.
This
request
is
on
hold
because
we
have
moved
to
email
notifications,
and
that
was
an
administrative
change
and
we
are
we're
testing
that
out
and
we're
going
to
see
if
that
makes
enough
of
an
impact
to
give
us
the
extra
days
that
we
needed
in
order
for
neighborhood
associations
to
share
information
with
their
constituents
and,
secondly,
extending
the
the
deadline
for
the
public
comment
period
to
16
days.
O
We
put
that
on
hold
also
because
of
this
email
notification,
so
the
land
use
working
group
is
going
to
talk
about
these
two
two
provisions
at
this
thursday's
meeting
and
we're
going
to
see
if
there's
anything
that
we
need
to
do
to
support
the
land
use
chairs
so
that
we
can
somehow
measure
the
effectiveness
of
these
administrative
changes
and,
finally,
with
regard
to
our
issue
about
neighborhood
public
meetings
taking
place,
and
then
nothing
really
happens
in
in
terms
of
people
raising
issues
and
developers
responding.
O
This
is
something
that
we're
trying
to
address
in
the
education
materials
and
I
think,
we're
going
to
make
a
little
bit
of
headway.
But
I
I
feel,
like
the
the
committee,
still
needs
to
hash
this
out
and
talk
about
it
a
little
bit
further
and
I
believe
that's
the
end
of
my
slide
presentation.
Do
I
have
any
questions
about
what
the
land
use
working
group
me
group
is
doing
and
where
we're
going.
B
Oh,
this
is
not
a
question,
not
a
question
per
se,
but
I
would
point
out
to
everyone
that
right
now
the
land
use
working
group
is
two
people,
and
if
there
is
interest-
and
I
would
I
would
say
you-
don't
necessarily
have
to
be
an
expert
in
land
use,
in
fact,
quite
honestly,
sometimes
because
of
the
very
little
amount
that
I
know
on
this
subject
matter.
The
only
thing
I
provide
is
the
view
of
layman.
That
might
say
yeah.
You
know
that
I
don't
quite
understand
how
that
works.
O
Thank
you
very
much
hans.
I
do
want
to
add.
While
it
is
currently
two
members,
I
appreciate
cassie's
efforts
on
being
on
the
land
use
working
group
previously
cassie's
decided
to
step
down.
I
believe
that
was
effective
in
december,
but
there
are
also
two
other
individuals,
mike
walker
from
river
west
and
debbie
dewees
from
southern
crossing,
and
we
definitely
would
not
be
making
the
progress
that
we
are
without
the
the
assistance
of
those
two
wonderful
people
so
and
hans
you're
selling.
Yourself
short,
you
contribute
a
great
deal
to
our
meeting.
O
B
So
we
good
lisa
and
I
can
move
on
okay,
neighborhood
boundaries,
working
group
karen.
You
want
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
what
we
did
in
our
first
meeting
and
maybe
what
you
did
on
monday
night.
N
Sure
so
the
boundaries
committee
met
on
january
5th,
and
at
that
meeting
I
was
elected
to
chair
this
group
and
we've
set
the
meeting
date
as
the
first
thursday
of
the
month,
which
means
our
next
meetings
february
4th
the
time's
yet
to
be
determined,
we're
still
working
on
that.
But
if
any
of
you
want
to
be
on
the
boundaries
committee,
you're
certainly
welcome
to
do
that.
N
All
13
neighborhoods
responded
to
the
boundary
prompt
questions
and
at
that
meeting
we
went
over
the
responses
and
the
themes
and
the
answers
currently
there's
10
neighborhoods
that
are
willing
to
look
at
changing
boundaries
and
three
neighborhoods
that
are
not
supporting
that
when
we
went
over
all
the
responses.
N
The
three
themes
are
in
relation
to
boundaries
that
the
first
issue
is
that
the
size
varies
greatly
between
the
current
13
neighborhood
associations
and
that
neighborhood
associations
have
grown
organically
as
the
city
has
grown,
and
it's
really
placed
a
burden
on
the
neighborhood
associations
that
are
on
the
perimeter
of
the
city
to
grow
as
the
city
grows.
N
N
It's
also
harder
for
the
larger
na
to
feel
like
they're
adequately
representing
everyone,
so
that
was
one
of
the
issues
that
was
identified
by
numerous
neighborhood
associations.
The
second
issue
was
representation
of
newly
annexed
areas.
N
The
third
issue
that
came
up
was
the
cohesiveness
of
neighborhoods
and
that
it's
really
important
to
look
at
natural
barriers
like
the
river
canals
and
major
affairs,
as
well
as
demographics
and
zoning,
because
they
all
play
a
part
in
how
cohesive
a
neighborhood
feels
and
that
some
neighborhood
associations
feel
like
the
boundaries
work
for
them,
while
other
neighborhood
associations
feel
like
they
don't
so
that
those
were
kind
of
the
overlaying
themes
from
from
the
13
responses.
N
That
is
what
I
presented
last
night
at
the
council.
Listening
session,
as
well
as
a
request
that
the
council
include
looking
at
neighborhood
boundaries
in
their
two-year
work
plan-
and
we
won't
know
the
status
of
that
until
I
think
the
end
of
january-
is
that
right,
michaela,
okay,
their
listening
session
is
on
the
20th
and
or
their
retreat
is
on
the
20th
and
21st.
N
B
Thanks
karen,
I
would,
I
would
suggest
that
probably
our
work
plan
is
largely
going
to
be
a
function
of
the
response.
Council
gives
us,
you
know,
obviously,
if
they
gave
us
a
broad
scope
of
work
or
if
they
gave
us
a
great
deal
of
support
or
if
they
included
as
a
significant
goal
for
the
biennium.
B
That
would
be
different
than
saying
yes,
we're
willing
to
look
at
the
code,
so
we'll
wait
and
see
how
council
deliberates
and-
and
you
know
how
they
place
this
in
terms
of
goals
or
if
they
place
it
as
a
biennium
goal.
It
could
be
that
we're
supported
on
this
action,
but
it
may
not
be
included
as
a
biennium
goal,
but
they've
got
a
lot
on
their
plate
and
a
lot
of
new
faces
to
try
and
figure
it
out.
So
we'll
see
how
that
goes.
B
Neighborhood
street
safety
program
I
michaela
and
lisa-
and
I
and
I
guess
a
couple-
others
did
get
an
update
from
robin
lewis
and
team
and
we
revisited
the
list
of
projects
and
I
think
michaela
you
sent
out
a
request
for
feedback
from
each
of
the
nas
to
confirm
that
they
still
want
to
go
forward
with
the
project
slated
for
this
season.
Is
that
correct,
yeah.
C
You
can
vet
that.
However,
you
want
to,
if
you
want
to
talk
to
your
boards,
if
you
want
to
involve
your
members,
we're
just
asking
for
responses
back
by
january
22nd,
so
that
we
can
continue
on
with
the
the
project,
funding
and
schedules
for
the
next
set
of
projects.
B
And
I
I
think
it's
it's
worth
pointing
out
that
part
of
the
reason
this
this
ask
went
out
is
because
one
of
the
projects
that
was
asked
for
turned
out
that
when
robin
was
trying
to
do
more
community
homework,
she
got
some
feedback.
That
said
gee.
You
know
we're
not
sure
we
really
want
exactly
this
project
so
lisa
and
I
and
michaela
have
talked
with
robin
about
the
process
and
how
we
handle
situations
like
that
when
they
occur.
But
it
just
raised
the
question
and
I
think
it
was
robin
basically
saying
hey.
B
I
want
to
be
sure,
I'm
going
on
these
projects
the
right
way.
I
want
to
make
sure
it's
still
the
list,
because
it
was
a
little
bit
of
a
surprise.
So
I
think
it's
an
effort
from
streets
to
just
make
sure
that
we
are
about
validating
that.
The
projects
that
we
all
agreed
on
last
year
are
still
the
projects
we
want
to
move
forward
on
and
with
that,
let
me
move
on
to
outstanding
topics,
two
things
there.
B
So
we
know
that
the
idea
of
a
homeless
transition
camp
or
a
managed
camp
at
juniper
ridge
has
been
shelved,
at
least
for
now,
and
probably
only
because
of
covet.
But
that
being
said,
managed
camps
are
still
very
much
on
the
table
with
council
and
just
a
reminder
that
we
do
have
more
time,
because
we
know
that
there's
going
to
be
more
discussion,
but
michaela
is
going
to
be
looking
for
each
of
us
on
behalf
of
our
boards
and
members
to
respond
on
the
prompts
that
we
put
out
on
juniper
ridge.
B
We
will
decide
as
a
group,
probably
at
our
next
meeting,
based
on
those
responses
which
she
would
like
by
feb
three.
I
think
that
three
step
two
maybe
a
week
ahead
of
the
meeting
anyway
a
week
ahead
of
our
feb
nine
meeting.
So
we
have
time
to
collate
the
responses,
but
that's
when
we
will
decide
collectively
if
we
feel
that
there
is
a
statement
that
the
nla
wants
to
make
to
council
and
if
so,
what
that
statement
looks
like.
B
So
please
weigh
in
make
sure
your
n
a
gets
the
input
to
michaela
by
the
first
part
of
the
first
week
of
feb,
or
I
should
say,
feb
3,
I
think,
is
her
credit
deadline.
Did
I
miss
anything
there?
Michaela.
C
No,
you
didn't.
We
did
have
a
small
development,
carolyn
egan
who
presented
in
november
on
the
juniper
ridge,
transitional
shelter
proposal
and
has
offered
to
come
back
and
and
speak
with
us
about
managed
camps.
And
then
maybe
we
could
even
get
someone
from
the
homeless
leadership
coalition
to
chat
with
us
about
the
topic
too.
So
I'll
I'll
get
that
information
to
you
and
we
can
decide
if
we're
going
to
put
it
on
a
future
agenda.
B
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
next
topic,
the
first
first
january,
the
first
meeting
of
every
calendar
year
we
elect
officers,
that's
what
our
procedures
say
and
we
don't
go
into
a
whole
lot
of
detail
and
I
don't
want
to
do
the
process
in
any
particular
way.
What
I,
what
I
do
want
to
say
is:
I
am
enjoying
working
as
your
chair
and
lisa
is
enjoying
working
as
the
vice
chair,
and
we
are
both
prepared
to
continue
to
do
that.
B
But
that
being
said,
I
am
completely
open
to
nominations
if
others
want
to
step
up
and
I'd
like
to
put
that
out
there
for
anyone
that
wants
to
nominate
and
if
not,
then
I
will
just
ask
for
a
vote
of
approval
for
lisa
and
I
to
continue.
But
I
very
definitely
want
you
to
hear
that
if
you
are
interested
or
you
want
to
nominate
someone
of
interest
for
chair
or
vice
chair,
please
don't
hesitate
to
raise
your
hand
or
speak
up.
G
B
Okay,
then,
thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
it.
I'm
looking
forward
to
continuing
the
work
that
we're
all
doing
together
and
with
that
I
will
start
out
with
our
reports
and
since
a
is
at
the
start
of
the
list,
the
one
thing
I
want
to
share
with
you.
I
don't
have
any
specific
information
that
I
think
is
abn
a-centric,
that
is
of
particular
interest
other
than
I
will
say
that
the
abna's
submission
to
council
was
based
on
fire
safety,
fire
mitigation
fire
risk.
B
I
think
that
is
very
important
to
the
people
in
abn
a
and
on
certainly
on
this
side
of
town.
I
think
all
of
us
probably
have
some
level
of
concern
about
that.
I
know
that
in
speaking
with
sean
mcfadden,
that's
that's
an
important
issue
to
summit
as
well,
and
I
know
that
it's
an
important
issue
to
century
west,
but
all
of
us
have
a
reason
to
care
about
that,
and
that
came
out
a
little
bit
in
council
presentation
on
monday
night.
B
I
want
to
share
with
you
that
I
did
present
the
nlas
asks
if
you
will
on
monday
night,
the
first
ask
karen
presented
for
us,
and
that
was
the
the
boundaries
work.
The
second
asked
was,
I
asked
for
continued
funding
of
the
nas
at
the
current
level,
especially
so
we
could
continue
to
increase
participation
in
the
community
and
especially
represent
connect
with
underrepresented
groups.
B
B
So
you
know,
we've
seen
and
lisa
gave
a
clear
example
of
how,
because
there
is
just
not
a
balanced
number
of
interested
stakeholders
on
the
planning
group,
those
things
can
go
a
certain
direction.
So
I
think
if
we-
and
this
goes
for
all
the
committees-
not
just
the
nla,
I
think
if
there
is
a
formal
process
that
says
how
our
advisory
committees
make
input
to
council
and
how
we
ensure
and
require
that
there's
a
widespread
perspective
that
really
serves
the
idea
of
advisory
committees,
no
matter
which
they
are
so
those
are.
B
O
Thanks
hans
with
regard
to
cwna,
we
did
not
meet
in
december.
We
took
the
month
off
to
celebrate
the
holidays.
I'm
not
sure
that
really
the
day
was
any
different
than
any
other
day,
but
we
we
we
took
the
the
month
off.
We
don't
have
a
whole
lot
going
on.
We
actually
have
fewer
land
use
notices
for
some
reason
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks
than
we
had
for
the
prior
couple
of
months,
which
is
kind
of
a
nice
reprieve.
O
I
would
like
to
let
this
group
know
that,
because
of
the
sign
code,
amendment
changes,
I
did
send
an
email
to
pauline
and
to
the
other
person,
and
I'm
sorry.
I
can't
remember
that
person's
name
but
another
city
official
to
request
that
they
allow
neighborhood
associations
to
legally
use
the
boundary
posts
to
advertise.
O
Neighborhood
association
meetings
and
pauline
just
responded
a
little
while
ago
saying
that
she'll
ask
some
questions
around
that,
and
that
would
that
would
be
something
that
would
be
really
useful
for
cwna
as
we
get
ready
for
our
annual
meeting
in
april
and
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
it
at
this
month's
meeting
and
figuring
out
our
plans
for
fire
ready
bend
where
we're
we'll
be
doing
a
major
education
effort
for
all
of
our
residents,
but
we'll
extend
the
invitation
to
all
other
neighborhood
associations
to
participate
in
this
education
program
around
fire
safety.
N
Okay,
sorry
about
that,
we
did
submit
a
an
agenda
or
paper
to
counsel
for
their
listening
session,
and
we
talked
a
lot
about
transportation,
because
we
think
the
growth
does
have
an
impact
on
transportation
and
that's
kind
of
a
missing
piece
right
now,
and
the
only
thing
that
we
talked
about
different
than
what
other
people
have
mentioned
is
that
we
really
want
to
complete
the
existing
list
of
neighborhood
street
safety
program
projects
before
new
applications
are
taken.
Southern
crossings
projects
kind
of
ended
up
at
the
bottom.
N
N
The
other
thing
is
we
asked
that
we
put
a
pause
on
the
signals
for
the
roundabout
at
reed
market
brookswood
and
bond.
We
think
signaling
at
roundabouts
that
are
reaching
capacity
is
a
citywide
issue,
because
their
roundabouts
are
reaching
capacity
or
beyond
capacity,
and
there
is
money
in
the
budget
now
to
put
signals
at
that
roundabout
and
we're
asking
for
a
pause
on
that.
N
The
only
other
thing
is,
we
supported
the
radar
speed
signs.
We
thought
they
were
great,
but
we
want
more
two
week,
two
locations
for
two
weeks
isn't
enough,
so
we
asked
that
council
consider
expanding
that
program.
N
I
don't
know
if
all
the
new
people
know
that
each
neighborhood
association
got
to
pick
two
locations
to
have
these
radar
signs
during
the
summer
months
and
our
neighborhood
association
found
it
really
useful,
and
then
the
city
has
a
map
where
you
can
go
and
look
at
the
data
from
those
radar
signs
to
see
what
kind
of
the
conclusions
were
for
the
neighborhood.
So
it
was
a
good
educational
tool
for
us
as
well.
N
The
only
other
thing
for
us
is
we're
holding
two
retreats.
In
january
we
had
our
first
work
plan
that
we
actually
hired
and
consulted
for
in
2020,
and
so
our
first
sessions
we're
going
to
review
what
worked
and
didn't
work
with
that
work
plan
and
then
we're
setting
goals
and
objectives
and
what
we
want
to
work
on
in
the
coming
year
at
the
second
session.
N
So
we're
meeting
a
lot
right
now
and
then
we're
also
continuing
our
work
with
southwest
neighborhood
station
association
on
changing
our
boundaries
to
include
the
central
oregon,
irrigation
district
property,
we're
working
with
their
board
on
how
that
goes
about
and
we're
both
changing
our
bylaws
and
making
that
happen.
Hopefully
sooner
than
later
so
that's
exciting
to
be
working
with
southwest,
and
I
appreciate
that
and
elizabeth's
work,
and
I
imagine
we'll
be
seeing
each
other
more
in
the
future
on
that
one
and
that's
it
press.
F
F
D
Have
I'm
on?
Thank
you
hans.
First,
with
the
street
safety
program,
our
very
our
neighborhood's
strongest
request
was
for
street
calming
at
amity's
creek
school
from
many
many
neighbors.
D
D
D
The
deschutes
river
trail
is
deficient
and
blocked
between
drake
park
and
miller's
landing.
This
is
a
shame,
as
the
trail
otherwise
is
intact.
Complete
from
robbery
butte
to
the
healey
bridge
river
front
street
is
the
bottleneck
and
it
seems
to
be
a
war
between
the
parks
and
the
city
who
should
put
in
sidewalks
and
make
the
trail
complete.
D
So
that
was
heavy
discussion
in
our
last
meeting.
The
transportation
plan
needs
to
be
completed.
It
seems
to
be
mostly
emphasizing
arterials
and
in
our
neighborhood
we're
much
more
concerned
about
transportation
ideas
about
cut
through
traffic
in
the
neighborhood
streets
and
traffic
calming
to
make
that
safer.
D
We
are
very
much
in
favor
of
the
tree
ordinance
that
we
heard
from
karen,
probably
even
more
aggressively,
so
that
we
got
the
sense
that
maybe
what
she
was
describing
was
for
new
development.
Only.
D
We
think
that
an
arborist
ought
to
be
deciding
on
older
trees.
That
may
be
hazards
may
be
dying
if
on
private
property
and
not
a
new
development
to
what
trees
should
say
and
what
should
go,
and
that
clearly
is
a
little
more
aggressive.
But
the
problem
is
great
in
our
neighborhood.
The
trees
are
disappearing
and
there
isn't
any
new
developments
coming
that
we
must
see.
B
P
Yeah,
we
also
as
the
board
river
west,
support
the
tree
ordinance,
but
we
would
like
to
survey
our
members
to
get
more
feedback
on
that
and
I
did
post
it
facebook
and
I
got
every
a
call
from
a
reporter
asking
me
what
we
knew
about
it
and
I
actually
was
able
to
connect
him
with
karen
johnson,
which
I
was
really
happy
to
do.
P
So
she
was
able
to
give
him
a
lot
of
information
that
was
ktvz
but
again
we'd
like
to
get
more
of
a
feedback
from
our
members,
and
we
do
have
a
meeting
a
board
meeting
on
monday
we're
going
to
finalize
some
of
the
details
for
our
annual
meeting,
which
is
going
to
be,
I
think,
late
february
or
early
march.
It
looks
like
we're
going
to
bring
in
the
police
chief,
because
our
focus
is
on
pedestrian
traffic
safety
and
parking.
That
seems
to
be
the
top
three.
P
It's
been
the
top
three
in
our
neighborhood
for
a
really
long
time,
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
the
virtual
vote
and
how
that's
going
to
work.
So
if
anybody
can
provide
us
feedback,
I
know
southeast
bend
did
something
different.
P
We're
on
the
weebly
platform,
so
we'll
have
to
figure
that
one
out
we're
updating
our
website
and
we
are
also
working
on
a
newsletter
and
we've
decided
to
send
that
out
after
our
postcard
for
our
annual
meeting,
because
we
think
it'd
be
more
it'll
be
better
to
do
it
then
we're
also
working
on
a
strategic
plan,
we're
going
to
do
a
goal-setting
session,
separate
special
meeting
for
that
to
start
off
the
year
and
it
looks
like
we
have
a
volunteer
to
join
our
board.
P
L
Thanks
hans
larkspur
supports
the
tree
ordinance
as
well
and
was
hoping
our.
We
have
not
actually
board
meetings
since
I
last
joined
you
guys
for
the
first
time,
but
our
board
was
wondering
if
they
could
get
the
crime
stats
that
karen,
I
think
you
mentioned
in
december.
L
Does
that
ring
a
bell
I
already
forgot,
but
I'm
writing.
I'm
reading
from
military.
L
B
Well,
for
now
I
mean
it's
more
or
less
on
hold
for
the
moment
on
hold
yeah
yeah,
but
we
will
still
visit
it
and
we'll
talk
about
it
and
just
you
know
again
be
sure
that
your
n
a
weighs
in
by
first
part
of
him,
so
that
we
all
have
input.
When
we
talk
about
in
the
fed
meeting.
B
G
Dave
we
a
couple
of
things
of
our
chair,
james
de
rophe,
presented
our
our
goals
at
the
actually
one
goal
with
with
three
parts
to
the
to
the
council.
Yesterday
and
the
goal
is
the
three
parts:
are
you
know,
implementing
the
tree
code
that
is
enforceable,
because
the
one
right
now
is
not
and
for
the
city
to
provide
more
robust
and
consistent
communication
assets
to
all
of
the
neighborhoods,
so
that
the
equality
of
outreach
or
the
quality
of
outreach
communications
doesn't
vary.
G
So
that
was
pretty
much
what
we
did
for
for
the
goal
setting.
We
did
have
a
general
meeting
last
night
and
we
did
approve
an
update
to
our
bylaws,
which
we've
been
trying
to
do
for
a
year
and
a
half
and
finally
figured
out
a
way
to
do
it.
But
that
included.
G
Defining
our
southern
boundary,
which
in
our
bylaws
past,
is
a
non-existent
county
land
designation
that
doesn't
exist
anymore,
so
we've
we've
established
boundaries,
even
understanding
that
that
those
may
change
as
a
result
of
the
the
boundaries
committee
and
and
city
council
work,
that's
associated
with
the
boundaries.
G
We
also
changed
the
some
some
of
the
restrictions
on
being
able
to
to
vote.
So
our
our
big
opportunity
for
the
for
this
month
has
been
to
to
finally
get
those
new
bylaws
up
and
approved,
so
they
are
now
operating
and
that's
about
the
hall
for
old
farm
right
now.
A
A
Yeah,
okay,
good,
so
we
had
a
brief
meeting
just
to
discuss
a
couple
of
things,
one
of
which
was
the
listening
session
that
took
place.
A
I
know
that
our
chair
beth,
presented
something
there
with
regards
to
a
joint
submission
had
having
to
do
with
livability,
probably
was
a
primary
aspect
of
it,
as
well
as
interestingly
covid
response,
so
that
that
should
be
kind
of
interesting
see
what
happens
with
that
one.
A
The
other
thing
that
we
were
addressing
was
a
neighbor
who
had
written
in
with
a
ladder
that
they
wanted
the
city
to
take
a
look
at
regarding
speed,
bumps
and
the
I
don't
know
the
efficiency
and
and
whatnot
of
the
speed
bumps
as
well
as
whether
or
not
they
could
add
more
to
their
street
here
on
on
wells
acres.
A
So,
in
any
event
that
we
we
responded
to
that
letter
with
the
statement
that
we
as
an
association
support
the
fact
that
there
is
a
traffic
issue
in
our
neighborhood,
but
that
we're
not
totally
convinced
that
that
speed
bumps
are
the
answer
and
we
are
looking
to
the
city.
So
we
have
invited
a
city
representative
to
come
to
our
next
board
meeting
and
discuss
that
with
us
in
an
open
forum.
So
essentially
that's
all.
I
have
to
report.
A
M
Hi,
so
we
had
our
southwest
bend
neighborhood
association
board
meeting
yesterday
and
the
biggest
focus
that
we
had
was
working
on
our
bylaws
and
updating
our
bylaws,
and
we
will
bring
the
bylaws
to
our
general
meeting
in
april
to
get
approval
from
the
membership
and
we
do
support
the
tree
ordinance
and
I've
gotten
some
input
from
members
about
this
potential
and
upcoming
development
on
the
coid
property.
M
How
that
may
be
impacted
by
any
enforcement
of
a
tree?
Ordinance.
There's
great
concern
there
for
the
plan
that
the
word
on
the
street.
The
plan
is
to
clear
cut
about
150
acres
down
in
that
that
area,
which
is
heavily
used
by
people
both
from
southern
crossing
and
southwest
bend
as
sort
of
a
an
informal
trail
system,
a
way
to
access
the
river
trail.
M
And
so
I
think
that
will
be,
and
some
of
that
work
has
already
begun
working
more
closely
with
southern
crossing
and
looking
at
that
as
a
real
potential
impact
in
in
both
neighborhoods.
If
that,
depending
on
how
that
development
proceeds
in
terms
of
the
street
safety
projects,
we're
happy
with
with
the
projects
and
and
would
like
to
move
forward
with
with
those-
and
I
think
that's
about
it.
B
Okay,
I'm
going
to
take
just
a
brief
timeout
here
and
I'm
going
to
ask
ian
if
he
can
respond
to
your
question
about
changing
your
n,
a
boundaries
as
established
in
your
bylaws.
H
Yeah
I
figured
somebody
might
ask
that
I
mean
the
the
short
answer
is
maybe
probably,
and
part
of
the
reason
for
that
answer.
As
we've
talked
about
in
the
boundary
change
working
group
and
other
settings
is
that
city
code
doesn't
really
currently
do
a
good
job
of
explaining
how
neighborhood
association
boundaries
change.
H
It
has
a
section
on
terminating
recognition
of
one
area
by
one
neighborhood
association,
but
it
doesn't
really
account
for
shifts
that
might
happen
for
other
reasons
or
how
newly
annexed
areas
of
the
city
will
be
incorporated
into
one
n,
a
or
another
or
or
perhaps
provide
a
basis
for
an
additional
n.
A
so
city
code
doesn't
really
speak
to
it.
H
I
guess
I
have
a
couple
of
thoughts.
One
of
them
is
from
one
perspective.
It
would
be
great
if
no
nas
changed
their
boundaries
until
the
boundary
working
group
went
through
its
process,
and
maybe
we
had
code
changes
that
outlined
sort
of
whether
and
how
and
what
are
the
best
ways
to
figure
those
questions
out
that
that
would
be
one
perspective.
Another
another
perspective,
maybe
is
the
city's
code,
doesn't
really
say
anything
about
it.
Do
what
you
want
to
do
that,
I
think
kind
of
is
a
little
bit
more
chaotic.
H
I
mean
it
depends
on
how
adjacent
or
a
budding
and
a's
are
working
together
and
and
who
feels
what
about
a
boundary
changing
in
this
way
or
that
way,
and
there
really
isn't
a
process
outlined
to
to
sort
of
resolve
those
things.
If
there
are
different
opinions,
I
mean
in
an
ideal
world,
if
adjacent
n,
a's
everybody
on
the
n,
a
boards
and
every
resident
or
member
of
an
n
a
was
on
the
same
page
and
everybody
thought
yes,
this
boundary
change
makes
perfect
sense.
H
Great
and
there's
really
no
reason
for
the
city
to
have
any
involvement.
That's
probably
not
always
the
case.
So
that's
why
part
of
me
thinks
it
would
be
great
if
nobody
did
anything
regarding
changing
boundaries
until
we
worked
through
this
process,
assuming
we
do
work
through
this
process
and
come
up
with
a
structure
for
how
that's
going
to
happen.
But
that
said,
I
can't
tell
you
that,
whatever
code
we
end
up
with,
if
we
do
change
the
neighborhood
association
code,
I
can't
predict
what
that
might
say
or
not
say
about
processes
for
changing
boundaries.
H
We
don't
know
yet
we're
early
in
that
process.
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
free-for-all.
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
a.
I
don't
want
to
say,
don't
ask
don't
tell,
but
you
know
a
neighborhood
association's
bylaws
are
its
bylaws
and
they
really
have
to
do
just
a
neighborhood
association
has
to
do
just
a
couple
of
things
in
order
to
be
recognized
by
the
city
and
maintain
that
recognition,
and
none
of
them
really
have
to
do
with
processes
for
changing
boundaries
or
having
boundaries
in
a
certain
way.
H
Who
may
have
different
views
on
how
the
where
they
want
to
be
in
terms
of
n
a
representation.
If
there's
consensus
and
people
are
on
the
same
page
and
it
happens,
then
I
shrug
my
shoulders
and
I
say
it
happens,
and
it's
fine
is
that
is
that
a?
Is
that
a
helpful
answer
at
all?
I
think.
B
It's
I
think
it's
the
best
you
can
do
frankly,
and
I
think,
if
anything,
you
know
the
fact
that
some
of
this
stuff
is
a
bit
ambiguous
kind
of
points
to
the
legitimate
need
for
boundaries
to
be
studied,
for
a
process
to
be
identified,
for
dialogue
to
be
started
and
council
will
tell
us
if
they
agree
that
there's
value
in
working
on
that.
But
I
appreciate
that
input
and
it's.
B
I
know
that
you
can't
give
us
a
black
and
white
yes
and
no-
and
I
wouldn't
expect
you
to
do
that,
but
but
thanks
for
that,
everyone
can
process
that
as
they
will,
and
I
will
move
on
now
to
make
sure
that
kathy
roche
has
an
opportunity
to
update.
What's
going
on
there.
E
Hi,
I'm
with
bonna
in
a
boyd
baker's
neighborhood
we're
on
the
northeast
section
of
the
city,
and
we
have
a
meeting
coming
up
next
week
that
is
going
to
address
or
look
at
the
new
library
and
changes
to
highway
97,
both
of
which
will,
I
think,
majorly
affect
our
neighborhood.
E
I
have
not
discussed
the
tree
ordinance
at
all
with
a
board.
I
suspect
that
it's
much
less
importance
to
our
neighborhood
than
others
in
that
we
have
only
small
portions
of
the
neighborhood
that
have
trees
in
them
and
I
think
they're
mostly
developed
at
this
point,
but
yeah
trees
get
old
and
if
they
fall
down
on
your
house
they're
going
to
wreck
your
house,
so
you
may
like
it
may
like
the
tree,
but
it's
got
it.
It's
got
your
name
on
it.
E
Basically,
it's
gonna
come
down
and
bust
you
to
pieces,
that's
from
being
a
forest
service
employee
for
many
years
who
worked
with
hazard
trees,
and
I
wanted
to
say
I
wonder
if
the
boundaries
working
group
could
be
assigned
or
take
on
some
of
that
information
about
a
possible
code
change
language
as
part
of
what
we're
doing
to
say.
E
Here's
some
suggestions
for
code
changes
that
would
address
that
that
vague
area
between
neighborhoods
and
neighborhood
association
boundaries,
because
I
could
see
at
some
point
some
neighborhood
deciding
that
it
just
wanted
some
part
of
some
other
neighborhood
and
just
saying
rewriting
their
code
and
saying.
Well,
you
guys
get
to
pick
which
neighborhood
association
you
want
to
be
in
or
whatever.
So
that's
all.
I
have
to
say:
okay,.
I
We've
got
a
couple
things
we
feel
really
busy,
but
we
always
feel
really
busy.
We
have
been
recruiting
like
mad
because
we
burned
out
a
couple
folks
and
we've
been
very
successful
in
doing
that.
We
found
two
people
to
appoint
to
open
positions
and
we
will
be
filling
our
other
four
open
positions
with
six
potential
candidates
coming
up
at
the
annual
meeting
next
week.
So
we're
excited
to
have
so
many
people
interested
and
these
people
have
have
shown
up
at
meetings
and
are
already
excited
about
sharing
their
perspectives
and
their
different
perspectives.
I
So
we
can
try
to
be
more
inclusive
of
those
folks
and
get
them
involved.
We
have
hired
a
consultant
to
help
us
with
rebranding,
so
we've
been
working
on
that
and
pulling
our
website
into
that.
So
we're
updating
the
website.
We
do
want
to
include
the
good
samaritan
projects.
I
So
peter
and
larkspur
I'll
be
hitting
you
guys
up
soon
to
see
how
you
guys
are
of
setting
that
up
and
see
if
we
can't
plagiarize
some
of
your
tools
and
then,
as
I
kind
of
talked
about
before,
we
are
trying
to
get
our
around
this
uptick
that
we're
seeing
in
short-term
rentals
in
our
neighborhood
trying
to
quantify
that
and
determine
what's
real
and
what's
perceived.
And
if
we
need
to
do
anything
about
it
onto
a
rat.
B
Well
excellent,
I
will
point
out
in
the
chat
that
ian
has
responded
to
cassie's
question
about
an
nla
liaison.
I
thought
that
it
was
official,
but
maybe
it
is
not
so
it
would
appear
to
be
megan.
Perkins.
Is
that
the
best
we
know
michaela.
C
Yeah,
I
can
speak
to
that.
So
last
night
the
council
did
address
liaison
appointments
and
there
were
quite
a
few
that
were
listed
out
and
agreed
on,
and
then
it
sounds
like
there
were
some
changes
after
the
fact,
and
so
what
I've
done
is
request
that
document
from
robin
christie.
She
said
that
she
will
get
that
to
us
as
soon
as
it
is
official
and
then
you
will
know
who
your
liaison
is.
B
B
I
Thank
you
hans
for
continuing
on
and
for
lisa
continuing
on
in
our
chair.
Vice
chair
of
roles
really
grateful.
I
know
you
guys
do
a
lot
thanks.