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Shall
we
dive
right
in?
Let's
do
a
roll
call,
dave
johnson
karen
here,
jim.
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A
A
A
E
A
Thank
you,
sean
everyone
who
agrees,
say:
aye,
raise
your
hand.
E
F
Have
some
attendees
so
at
this
time,
if
you're
interested
in
making
a
comment,
I
would
ask
you
to
raise
your
hand
if
you're
on
your
desktop,
you
can
use
the
raise
hand
function
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen.
If
you
are
calling
in
via
phone,
the
number
is
star9
to
raise
and
lower
your
hand.
So
if
you
could
do
that
now,
we'll
get
you
in
the
queue
for
public
comment.
A
G
Director
for
the
city-
and
we
are
here
to
talk
to
you
about
a
plan
and
hopefully
your
involvement
in
some
property
tax
exemptions
that
we
are
vetting
right
now
with
you
and
a
number
of
other
advisory
bodies,
as
well
as
with
our
taxing
district
partners.
G
H
So
we
established
that
district
in
2020
and
just
collected
our
first
year
of
increment
and
are
expecting
to
see.
Hopefully
a
lot
of
you
know,
redevelopment
in
that
area,
but
a
lot
of
as
funds
get
generated.
Some
public
investment
into
that
area
and
the
project
that
we're
presenting
on
today
would
have
kind
of
some
impacts
to
some
of
the
revenue
that
that
we're
anticipating
collecting
in
that
area.
G
Okay,
do
you
want,
do
you
want
me
to
kick
this
off
ali,
or
do
you
want
to
do
it?
Yeah
that'd
be
great
okay,
so
here
is
the
website
that
we
have
created
and
michaela.
If
it's
okay,
I'm
assuming
that
this
powerpoint
will
be
available
for
folks,
so
that
they
can
just
click
that
link
rather
than
memorizing
him.
F
G
G
Wheel
is
equity,
and
really,
I
think
that
the
goals
that
we
are
talking
about
tonight
around
housing
and
the
tax
exemptions
really
help
us
meet
a
lot
of
these
goals
by
promoting
again
the
type
of
housing,
the
type
of
development
that
we
want
in
the
types
of
places
that
we
want
that
development,
and
so
as
part
of
this
process,
council
did
acknowledge
the
need
or
the
desire
to
vet
a
couple
of
property
tax
exemptions,
and
we
were
able
to
find
four
that
might
work
for
bend
and
those
are
the
ones
that
we'll
go
through
with
you.
G
So
the
sort
of
guidance
for
this
is
coming
through
council
goals
through
the
housing
goal.
The
four
this
is
just
a
very
brief
look,
don't
feel
like
you
need
to
memorize
this
yet,
but
these
are
the
four
we'll
be
talking
you
through.
So
this
is
just
the
preliminary
you're
getting
the
names
here.
That's
all
you
need
to
know
from
this
slide.
G
Really
quickly
vertical
housing
development
zone,
if
some
of
you
have
come
from
other
communities
in
oregon
that
has
been
known
until
recently
as
the
vertical
housing
tax
credit,
so
vhtz
or
vhdz
are
both
vhtc
are
both
the
same
thing
just
slightly
different
versions
of
the
state
law.
Mopdy,
as
we
call
it
is
the
multiple
unit
property
tax
exemption.
G
Both
of
these
two
tools,
muppy
and
vertical-
are
intended
for
use
in
our
more
dense
sort
of
central
areas
of
bend
and
we'll
get
into
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
They're
really
intended
to
promote
the
type
of
market
rate
development
that
we're
looking
for
the
non-profit
corporation,
low-income
housing
exemption,
and
we've
got
to
find
a
better
acronym.
For
that.
I
think
so
we
can
say
it
without
saying
all
the
words
is
intended
for
affordable
housing.
G
This
one,
I
think
the
staff
recommendation
will
be
a
little
bit
broader,
and
this
is
intended
to
meet
these
the
city's
definition
of
true,
publicly
supported,
affordable
housing
or
what
some
of
you
have
heard
me
say
as
capital:
a
affordable
housing,
that's
the
subsidized
deed,
restricted
kind,
with
all
sorts
of
covenants
and
and
lockdown,
and
then
middle
income
is
brand
new,
this
one's
only
in
use
in
tillamook
county.
G
So
far,
the
reason
for
the
appeal
of
this
is
number
one:
city
council
has
really
been
trying
to
address
the
level
of
housing,
that's
needed
above
true,
affordable
housing,
because
we
know
that
a
lot
of
our
middle
income
populations
are
struggling
with
housing
these
days
as
well.
There
are
not
a
lot
of
tools
to
incentivize
that
middle
income
range.
This
is
one
of
those
that
exists
out
there
in
the
state
that
we
actually
have
control
over.
G
So
that's
sort
of
the
appeal
of
this
one
and
we'll
talk
you
through
each
of
these
in
detail
over
the
next
few
moments.
Okay,
so
again,
these
are
not
intended
for
the
most
part.
Several
of
them
are
not
intended
as
permanent
solutions
and
they're
not
going
to
be
our
similar
bullets.
I
think
we're
very
clear
with
that.
These
are
additional
tools
in
our
potential
toolbox
to
help
incentivize
a
little
bit
more
of
the
types
of
developments
that
we
need,
the
most
in
band.
G
In
addition,
council,
if
they
choose
to
pass
any
of
these
exemptions,
can
request
certain
components
of
that
development
that
they
may
not
be
able
to
get
otherwise
such
as
energy
efficiency
in
a
market
rate
development
they
can
require
affordable
housing,
there's
all
sorts
of
great
benefits
that
give
council
a
little
more
control
over
the
type
of
housing,
that's
being
built
or
type
of
development.
So
we'll
walk
you
through
these
as
well.
G
As
some
of
you
know,
we
have
at
least
one
what's
called
local
option
property
tax
exemption
in
place
right
now
for
affordable
housing.
That's
been
used,
I
think
about
10
times
or
probably
less
in
the
last
20
years,
which
is
about
how
long
we've
had
it
in
place
for
affordable
housing,
but
has
created
a
quite
a
number
of
units
and
has
really
benefited
the
community.
G
G
G
Oftentimes
really
does
have
to
be
considered
in
the
context
of
additional
staffing
capacity,
and
so
that's
something
to
just
know,
and
I
think
that
what
that
number
is
or
what
that
amount
is,
is
going
to
be
based
on
the
number
of
exemptions
that
you
help
council
choose
and
how
frequently
those
are
used.
So
we
don't
have
a
solid
prediction
of
that
yet,
but
hope
to
get
a
little
closer
to
that
through
this
process
for
the
market
rate,
property
tax
exemptions.
Again
it's
about
controlling
the
type
and
location
of
development.
G
However,
these
are
market
rate
proposals
and
so
there's
caution
to
be
taken
in
subsidizing
market
rate
development,
not
only
to
ensure
that
we
are
making
wise
decisions
with
public
funding,
but
also
to
ensure
that
the
public
understands
why
that's
important
and
why
we're
subsidizing
private
development
rather
than
just
letting
it
happen
on
its
own.
So
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
through
that
again
as
well
and
then
taxi
revenue.
H
Okay,
I
I
get
to
present
all
the
fancy
charts,
so
this
this
graph,
that's
on
the
slide
right
now,
just
kind
of
gives
an
example
of
what
a
property
tax
exemption
would
look
like,
and
I
want
you
to
kind
of
think
about
each
of
these
lines
as
a
different
type
of
of
land
land
use,
so
the
orange
line
raw
land.
I
think
that's
pretty
easy
for
us
all
to
envision.
H
It's
a
vacant
parcel
right,
so
maybe
like
a
field
like
troy
field,
for
example,
might
be
like
a
good
example
of
some
raw
or
vacant
land,
the
retail
only
line
so
the
yellow
line
in
the
center
of
the
graph.
I
think
that
a
good
example
to
think
about,
for
that
is
the
third
street
starbucks
that
was
recently
developed.
H
I
know
that
that
area
is
zoned
for
a
higher
intensity
type
development
and
there
were
some
community
expectations
that
that
site
would
redevelop
with
more
of
a
multi-story
building
that
might
include
some
housing
and
at
the
time,
that
developer,
in
particular,
did
not
feel
like
the
market
was
supportive
enough
to
move
forward
with
a
vertical
or
multi-story
building
on
that
site,
and
so
it
developed
as
a
kind
of
single-story
retail
building
with
a
starbucks
and
a
bank,
and
then
the
green
line
would
be
something
more
like
what
was
recently
developed
over
by
safeway
on
century
drive,
say
near
14th
street,
the
hixson
development.
H
So
that's
a
a
five-story
building
with
four
stories
of
residential
above
one
story
of
commercial
ground
floor
uses.
So
three
different.
You
know
three
very
different
types
of
of
developments,
and
in
this
it
shows
the
tax
rate
that
all
three
of
these
types
of
developments
would
collect
over
a
30-year
period.
And
so
in
this
scenario,
you
can
see
that
right
that,
like
third
street
starbucks,
while
it
brings
in
more
revenue
than
a
vacant
piece
of
property
to
taxing
districts,
it's
not
significantly
more
versus
a
very
intense
development
use.
H
And
I
think
what
we're
hearing
when
we
actually
talk
to
developers
today,
is
that
that
you
know
the
difference
in
investment
between
these
two
types
of
projects
isn't
necessarily
going
to
be.
It's
not
how
to
make
it
or
break
it
with
this
exemption
program.
But
we
may
be
able
to
try
to
incentivize
certain
components
of
a
larger
scale
project
such
as
incorporating
child
care
facilities
or
increasing
the
amount.
You
know
reducing
the
cost
per
unit
for
some
of
the
rental
units
that
they
offer
in
their
development.
H
So
I'll
kind
of
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
this,
but
this
kind
of
just
gives
a
general
overview
something
to
consider
in
urban
renewal
areas.
So
urban
renewal
and
tax
increment
financing
collects
funds
from
increment
that's
generated
in
an
urban
renewal
area
on
taxes.
So
if
somebody
is
to
make
a
significant
improvement
on
their
building
or
on
their
on
their
property,
if
it's
within
an
urban
renewal.
B
H
That
that
amount
of
increment,
that
is,
that
is
created
from
that
improvement,
goes
into
the
urban
renewal
fund
and
I'm
I'm
kind
of
over
simplifying
urban
renewal.
And
if
you
are
curious
about
learning
more
about
what
urban
renewal
is,
it's
a
little
bit
complicated
and
I'm
happy
to
sit
down
with
any
of
you.
If
you
reach
out
to
explain
it
a
little
bit
more.
But
basically,
if
we're
considering
tax
exemption
programs
in
urban
renewal
areas,
it
pulls
from
some
of
the
same
funding
sources
that
we
can
use
that
urban
rural
funding.
H
So
as
the
as
the
person
that
oversees
the
tax
increment
finance
area,
I
I
I'm
feeling
comfortable
that
we're
moving
forward
with
this
program,
even
though
it
impacts
my
funding
source,
because
I
think
this
is
the
appropriate
time
to
consider
those
exemption
programs
so
and
then
I'm
going
to
walk
us
through
the
first
two
exemption
programs
and
how
those
programs
work
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
lynn
and
amy
to
talk
about
the
other
two
programs
and
the
first
two
are
programs
that
are
really
intended
to
kind
of
incentivize
the
type
of
development
that
we've
envisioned
for
our
central
and
core
area.
H
This
program,
essentially,
the
city
identifies
a
zone
in
which
projects
within
that
zone
would
be
eligible,
and
so
you
establish
the
program
by
ordinance,
which
means
it
takes
a
city
council
action,
but
each
individual
development
project
actually
gets
has
to
go
to
council
for
adoption
by
resolution.
So
there's
an
opportunity
for
each
development
project
to
actually
be
reviewed.
H
We've
always
envisioned
that
if
we
were
to
pursue
this
program
that
we
would
focus
it
to
the
bend
central
district,
so
that
area
generally
between
4th
street
and
the
railroad
just
east
of
the
parkway
and
downtown
and
and
what
this
program
kind
of
the
requirements
of
this
program
are
more
dictated
by
state
statutes.
So
it
requires
that
the
ground
floor
of
a
development
have
at
least
50
percent
of
that
ground
floor
be
dedicated
to
non-residential
uses.
H
So
this
program
is
really
intended
to
incentivize
more
of
those
mixed-use
projects
and
sometimes
that's
a
harder
development
type
to
build
for
developers,
because
they're
they're
blending
sort
of
two
different
development
types
a
lot
of
times.
You
have
like
a
development
group.
That's
really
expert
like
as
an
expert
in
multi-family
development
or
they're,
an
expert
in
commercial,
and
it's
a
little
bit
harder
to
find
folks
that
have
that
experience
in
both
and
sometimes
ground
floor.
The
ground
floor
of
the
building
may
need
to
be
dedicated
to
some
of
the
residential
uses.
H
So
you
know
lobby
areas,
parking
tuck
under
parking
is
a
big
use
of
ground
floor
area
or
even
or
even
like
a
gym
space
for
the
residents
that
may
live
in
a
multi-family
building,
so
sometimes
that
fifty
percent
can
be
hard
to
meet
and
then
what's
unique
about
this
program.
That
differs
from
the
next
program
and
I
think
most
of
the
other
program.
I
think
all
the
other
programs
that
we
talk
about
today
is
that
taxing
districts
are
automatically
included
to
participate
in
this
program.
H
However,
they
have
the
option
to
individually
opt
in
or
opt
out,
so
there's
no
sort
of
guarantee
from
the
developer
side
that
if
they
get
the
approval
by
city
council
by
resolution,
that
any
of
the
taxing,
the
other
taxing
districts
will
participate
in
this
exemption
program.
So
sometimes
you
know
that
can
that
can
make
it
a
little
bit
more
onerous
on
the
developer
or
just
add
another
level
of
uncertainty,
of
whether
this
exemption
program
is
really
beneficial
for
them.
F
I
E
F
It's
being
slow
for
me
too.
There
we
go.
D
Can
I
ask
a
question,
while
we're
yeah
figuring
out
the
screens,
just
that
last
bullet
says
that
the
the
project
must
already
be
under
construction
for
folks
to
apply?
Can
you
tell
us
more
about
that
stipulation
if
this
is
to
encourage
developers
to
consider
this
kind
of
development.
H
Yeah
so
some
of
the
products
some
of
the
programs
allow
for
like
even
existing
buildings
that
are
recently
rehabilitated
to
be
kind
of
grant.
You
know
you
could
apply
for
it
to
be
a
to
be
sort
of
grandfathered,
and
even
though
it's
not
a
new
project,
this
program,
kind
of
dictated
by
state
statute,
requires
that
the
project
kind
of
be
at
that
construction
phase
in
order
to
be
eligible.
H
So
when
we
write
sort
of
the
program
application
parameters,
you
know
it
needs
to
be
a
new
project,
essentially
versus
a
building.
That's
already
already
built,
okay,
gotcha,
thank
you,
and
then
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
Michaela.
H
So
this
program
is
used
in
tigard,
springfield,
medford,
beaverton
and
hillsboro.
It
is
often
used
in
conjunction
with
urban
renewal.
H
H
So
this
this
is
very
similar
that
you
adopt
the
program
by
ordinance
and
then
each
individual
development
has
to
be
approved
by
resolution.
What's
really
different
about
this
program
is
that
taxing
district
participation
is
not
required.
However,
if
51
of
the
taxing
district
like
the
levying
taxing
districts,
so
that's
essentially
the
city
and
the
school
district
we
make
up.
H
E
H
So
this
could
be
applied
in
all
of
our
mixed
use
zones,
as
well
as
our
high
density
residential
zones,
and
then
we
we
would
also
probably
apply
it
to
the
entire
core
area
tif
district,
because
because
residential
uses
are
allowed
in
and
a
lot
more
of
those
areas,
and
it
would
also
help
us
to
incentivize
residential
uses
in
some
of
those
commercial
zones.
H
So
what's
what's
really
a
pro
with
this
program,
is
that
the
city
gets
to
establish
the
eligibility
criteria
and
that
you
can
also
ask
applicants
or
or
developers
to
demonstrate
some
sort
of
project
feasibility.
So
essentially,
you
can
ask
them
to
to
give
you
more
of
their
pro
forma
and
have
sort
of
some
open
book
policy.
H
So
a
lot
of
cities
that
require
that
to
demonstrate
that
project
feasibility
hire
a
third
party
to
do
the
pro
forma
review
of
the
development
in
order
to
ensure
that
they
actually
need
the
the
tax
exemption.
There's
no
requirement
in
this
program
for
commercial
ground
floor
use,
although
kind
of
internally
we've
brainstormed.
H
If
we
were
to
pursue
just
this
exemption
versus
both
the
vhdc
and
mupd
that
we
may
require
some
type
of
commercial
ground
floor
use,
at
least
in
the
bend
central
district
on
the
main
streets,
and
then,
if
you
go
to
the
so
this
again,
this
program
is
widely
used.
Zela,
eugene
oregon,
and
this
shows
the
tax
levy.
You
know,
for
every
property
tax
dollar,
that's
paid.
What
percentage
goes
to
each
taxing
district?
So
you
can
really
see
that
51
comes
from
the
school
district
and
the
city
of
bend
otherwise
you're.
H
Basically,
if
the
school
district
doesn't
approve
you're
needing
to
get
approval
from
every
other,
taxing
district,
then
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
this
is
just
a
sample
of
some
of
the
eligibility
criteria
that
we
envisioned
could
be
could
be
looked
at
for
the
muppy
program,
since
we
have
the
ability
to
really
define
what
those
are-
and
I
think
this
is
where
the
nla
membership
on
a
work
group
would
be
really
valuable-
is
really
helping
us
to
kind
of
refine.
H
If
they
were
to
participate
in
an
exemption
program
at
the
mukti
exemption
program,
so
you
know
you're,
typically
going
to
be
requiring
some
sort
of
like
location,
whether
it's
the
development
zone
and
then
a
minimum
number
of
dwelling
units
that
need
to
be
provided
in
order
to
be
eligible
for
the
program,
but
there's
also
opportunity
to
identify
certain
public
benefits
that
you'd
like
to
incentivize.
H
So
if
a
development
were
to
offer
child
care
facilities,
do
we
want
to
outright
allow
them
to
participate
in
the
exemption
if
they
incorporate
energy
efficiency
or
green
building
features
if
they
have
extra
costs
with
their
project,
that's
associated
with
in-filler
redevelopment
projects
such
as
environmental
cleanup?
That
could
be
another
automatic
eligibility
criteria.
H
So
I
think
this
will
be
really
where
we
work
with
the
with
the
work
group
and
volunteers
on
the
work
group
to
really
refine
this
list
and
also
get
input
from
from
developments,
because
there's
certain
public
benefits
that
you
know
the
exemption
program
may
not
really
be
able
to
to
cover
the
cost
for
those
and
then,
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
this
is
the
last
slide
from
me.
H
This
is
really
dense,
but
I
wanted
to
kind
of
just
give
an
example
of
what
the
numbers
would
actually
look
like.
So
this
is
an
example
project.
It's
assumed
to
be
in
the
bend
central
district,
so
within
the
core
area,
tax,
increment
finance
area
and
the
current
use
of
the
land
is
an
industrial
use.
So
you
can
see
the
the
current
land
use
in
the
photo
on
the
top
left
and
currently
that
property
pays
around
twenty
thousand
dollars
in
property
taxes.
H
So
let's
say
they:
they
continue
to
keep
that
use
on
their
site
by
2025,
with
just
a
three
percent
annual
increase
or
assumed
annual
increase
in
taxes
they're
paying
around
24
000
in
taxes
in
2025.,
and
the
graph
on
the
bottom
shows
how
much
of
the
revenue
over
the
you
know.
The
next
14
years
is
going
to
go
into
the
urban
renewal
district
tiff
fund,
which
is
that
85
000
versus
what
is
sort
of
the
frozen
base,
which
is
the
amount
of
tif.
H
H
So
then
let's
say
this:
instead
of
this
industrial
use,
the
property
owner
decides
to
build
a
pretty
intense
development.
So
the
development
proposed
on
this
site
is
a
five-story
building
for
residential
stories
over
one
story
of
a
mixture
of
ground
floor,
commercial
uses
with
137
ish
residential
units,
so
after
they
after
they
make
this
pretty
significant
investment
on
their
property
and
their
property
gets
reassessed
for
taxes.
H
And
let's
say
that
that
project
is
assumed
to
take
place
in
2025.
Their
new
tax
rate
goes
from
24
000
to
425
000,
so
that's
an
annual
tax
rate,
that's
going
to
increase
by
3
ish
every
year.
So
if
we
assume
that
we
approve
this
tax
exemption
program,
what
that
would
result
in
over
that?
Let's
say
it's
a
10-year
exemption
where
80
percent
of
the
improvements,
but
not
the
land,
are
exempt
from
taxes
and
that
all
taxing
districts
participate.
H
H
It
definitely
has
an
impact,
but
this
time
we're
still
able
to
collect
the
frozen
base
to
the
urban
rural
district
and
still
generate
some
tax
increment
that
can
go
into
the
urban
renewal
area
more
than
what
would
have
happened
in
the
no
build
scenario,
so
just
kind
of
some
numbers
to
keep
in
perspective.
If
you're
wondering
what
that
would
look
like
and
then
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
amy
to
talk
about
the
next.
I
I
One
of
the
things
that's
unique
is
that
it's
allowed
anywhere
in
the
city.
It
can
be
partial
and
there's
no
unit
minimum,
so
this
may
be
really
attractive
to
the
city
of
bend
because
we
could
do
duplexes,
triplexes
or
four
plexes,
and
even
a
single
family
home
could
take
advantage
of
this
exemption.
I
Another
unique
part
of
this
exemption
is
that
it's
limited
to
folks
that
are
60
of
ami
or
less
for
the
first
year,
but
then
what
we
would
hope
is
with
stability
and
housing.
Those
people
would
be
able
to
increase
their
income,
and
so
the
income
is
eligible
up
to
eighty
percent
the
year
after,
if
the
city
chooses
there
is
a
hundred
percent
exemption,
if
approved
by
the
jurisdictions
representing
fifty
one
percent,
just
like
muppy.
So
if
we
get
the
city
and
the
school
district,
we're
in
good
shape
next
slide,
please.
I
If
it's
not
inconsistent
with
any
of
the
legislative
tenants,
it
can
be
existing
housing
or
new
development,
and
it
includes
housing
or
excuse
me,
land
held
for
development
for
housing
at
another
time,
which
is
a
nice
option.
It's
currently
in
use
across
the
state
and
the
one
con
that
we've
heard
consistently
is
that
it's
onerous
for
the
nonprofits
to
apply
every
year,
but
we're
hoping
we
can
simplify
that
application
process
and
make
it
as
painless
as
possible.
G
Thank
you,
so
I
see
a
few
open
eyes
still,
I
think
that's
a
good
sign.
We
haven't.
G
Either
that
or
some
of
you
are
wise
enough
to
turn
off
your
camera
when
you're
dozing
off
but
either
way.
Well,
this
is
our
last
one
of
the
four
middle
income
so
go
ahead
and
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
G
So,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
this
is
only
in
use
in
tillamook
county.
We
had
a
great
conversation
with
them
a
little
while
ago,
and
they
did
a
lot
of
groundwork
to
figure
it
out.
G
Redmond
city
of
redmond
is
interestingly,
also
considering
this
at
the
same
time
as
we
are
so
we've
been
coordinating
with
them
as
well,
so
in
this
case,
incomes
for
develop
for
the
that
would
reside
in
the
development
households
that
reside
in
the
development
can
make
up
to
120
of
ami
right
now
in
20,
we're
still
using
2021
numbers
until
about
halfway
through
this
year
for
a
household
of
four
that
is
just
under
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
G
So
that
gives
you
a
sense
of
sort
of
the
range
here,
so
that
will
cover
a
good
portion
of
our
working
class.
I'd
say
that
is
not
already
covered
by
the
affordable
housing
exemptions
that
we've
talked
about.
What's
interesting,
I
think
about
this.
One
is
that
we
would
be
in
charge
of
creating
the
formula
that
allows
for
how
much
of
that
property
is
going
to
be
covered
and
how
long
so,
the
maximum
length
of
this
property
tax
exemption
is
10
years.
G
What
tillman
county
did-
and
this
would
be
the
staff
recommendation
as
well-
is
the
percentage
of
the
development
that
is
dedicated
towards
these
types
of
units,
so
middle
income
units
would
dictate
the
length
of
time
that
the
exemption
is
in
place.
So
for
simple
math,
because
I,
like
the
simplicity,
let's
say
it's
a
10
unit
development
and
that
developer
has
committed
to
two
of
those
units
being
at
this
middle
income
range.
G
That
would
mean
that
20
of
the
development
is
middle
income,
and
so
they'd
get
a
two-year
exemption,
because
that
is
20
of
the
total
time
limit.
If
that
developer
committed
to
100
of
those
units
in
that
middle
income
range,
they
could
get
the
full
10
years
and
it
would
scale
sort
of
along
those
lines.
G
G
One
of
the
cons
to
this,
which
is
kind
of
a
theoretical
con
at
this
point,
is
that
in
theory,
affordable
housing
developers
could
choose
to
use
this
exemption
instead
of
developing,
affordable
housing
and
they'd
raise
the
income
limits
that
were
allowed
in
affordable
housing.
It
wouldn't
be
affordable
housing
at
that
time.
I
think
that
the
reason
I
say
this
is
hypothetical
is
because
most
of
our
affordable
housing
development
community
is
very
committed
to
developing,
affordable
housing.
That's
what
they
do
and
they
do
it
well.
E
G
Housing
to
try
to
test
out
this
middle
income
deed
restriction,
that's
a
lot
more
likely
than
pulling
folks
who
are
currently
developing,
affordable,
housing
and-
and
you
know
somehow
convincing
them
that
middle
income
housing
is
better.
G
So
I
it's
theoretical,
but
I
thought
we
should
probably
list
that
just
in
case
and
again,
this
is
a
local
option,
so
folks
would
have
to
kind
of
shop
their
project
around
to
51
of
taxing
districts
until
they
could
get
all
enough
of
us
to
approve
in
order
to
get
that
full
property
tax
exemption
for
100
of
the
bill.
G
So
with
that
next
slide,
so
go
ahead.
Keep
going
so
I
think
I'm
going
to
hand
it
back
to
allison
right
now.
Is
that
true?
Or
do
you
want
me
to
I'll?
Go
through
it?
You're
still
muted,
never
mind
I'll
go
through
it,
so
we're
in
the
process
of
shopping,
this
presentation
around
to
various
committees,
and
we
are
looking
for
a
volunteer
to
help
support
this
process,
so
we're
creating
kind
of
a
subgroup
to
a
prize
staff
on
what
works
best
for
this
community.
G
Some
of
the
things
that
we'll
be
looking
for
your
feedback
on
are
listed
here.
Does
it
make
sense
for
us
to
look
at
all
four
of
these?
Should
we
add,
you
know
a
commercial
component
to
mukti
and
allow
for
vertical
to
not
actually
move
forward.
Do
we
prioritize
these
in
different
ways?
You
know:
are
the
zones
that
we've
looked
at
the
right
zones
and
then
do
we
hate
them
all?
I
don't
know
so.
G
All
of
those
questions
I'd
say
are
on
the
table
for
you
to
have
that
discussion
with
us
with
other
committees
and
then
eventually
with
the
taxing
districts
as
well,
so
the
three
of
us
will
be
cruising
around
to
all
the
different
taxi
districts
and
talking
to
first
their
staff
and
then
their
board.
Next
steps
are
we're
reviewing
with
the
community
building
subcommittee
of
council
at
the
end
of
february
and
then
we'll
bring
it
back
to
council
for
a
decision
later.
On
I
mean,
I
think
our
next
one
is
the
timeline
on.
J
G
So
go
ahead
and
move
forward,
so
here
we
are,
and
so
here's
a
handful
of
upcoming
meetings.
Of
course,
you
all
are
welcome
to
watch
these
meetings.
They'll
all
be
public
watch
these
meetings
as
they
occur,
but
we
are
looking
for
just
one
volunteer
at
this
point.
G
The
phased
adoption
that
we
have
in
this
last
bullet
in
april
to
june
is
because
a
couple
of
these
exemptions
have
very
interested
parties
that
are
waiting
to
determine
so,
for
instance,
one
of
the
developments
it
does
not
feel
like
they
can
put
true,
affordable
housing
into
the
development
unless
they
have
a
property
tax
exemption
such
as
mufti
in
place.
That
really
helps
with
their
pro
forma
to
be
able
to
allow
for
things
like
affordable
housing.
We
have
another
affordable
housing
developer
that
is
sort
of
holding
tight
for
the
non-profit
exemption.
G
If
we
choose
to
pass
that
through,
so
we
may
prioritize
some
of
the
discussions
to
go
a
little
earlier
than
some
of
the
others
vertical
housing.
If
we
don't
have
anyone
in
the
wings
for
that
and
there's
not
as
much
interest,
you
know,
we
may
choose
to
de-prioritize
that
a
little
or
potentially
even
put
it
to
the
side
for
now.
So
that's
what
that
scaled
time
frame
is
allie.
Did
you
want
to
add
anything
before
we
move
on.
H
I
think
that's,
I
think,
that's
fine.
I
know
karen
from
nla
had
expressed
interest
in
participating
in
the
working
groups.
I
wanted
to
kind
of
just
mention
that,
but
we
are
looking.
H
We
have
kind
of
scheduled
to
well,
not
even
intensive
we've
scheduled
dates
for
the
work
group
meetings,
so
we
would
need
the
workgroup
volunteer
to
be
able
to
commit
to
kind
of
three
to
four
mondays
in
late
january
to
february,
so
those
first
three
meeting
dates
that
we're
looking
at
would
be
monday
january
3rd,
31st
february,
7th
and
february
14th
from
3
to
5
p.m,
and
we
may
not
use
that
full
two
hours,
but
we
might
because
it
is
a
pretty
immediate
topic,
so
just
kind
of
making
sure
that
those
who
are
interested
and
want
to
participate
in
that
work
group
can
make
those
meeting
dates.
D
Be
interested
if
yeah,
I
would
be
really
interested.
Okay,.
G
G
K
One
of
my
questions
is
you
mentioned
that
one
of
the
the
nonprofit
sunsets
do
the
other
three
types
of
exemptions
have
any
kind
of
sunset
in
it,
or
will
that
be
up
to
the
city
council
to
determine.
G
Repression,
so
this
the
sunset
is
in
state
law
and
most
it's
not
all
of
the
property
tax
exemptions
that
I'm
aware
of
at
state
law
do
sunset
regularly.
However,
to
date
they
have
all
been
renewed
by
the
legislature
regularly
as
well,
so
that
sunset
is
not
the
end
of
the
exemption.
If
that
makes
sense,
that's
the
end
of
new
applications
for
the
exemption,
so
folks,
who
have
already
qualified
for
that
exemption,
would
continue
it
through
the
term
that
they've
been
approved
for
it's
just
we
wouldn't
take
new
exemption
requests
at
that
point.
C
Thanks,
I
actually
have
a
couple
of
questions.
I
don't
know
if
we
have
time
for
all
of
them,
but
one
question
was
that
on
on
your
graphs
after
the
10-year
period,
then
there's
that
big
jump
and
presumably
does
that
I
mean
I
would
guess
that
if
there's
a
multi-unit
rental
situation
that
that
would
translate
into
rent
going
up
for
the
residents
there
or.
G
Nothing
yeah
so
so
this
is
solely
so
kind
of
different,
so
the
property
tax
exemption
that
is
in
place,
it
sort
of
depends
on
the
development
if
it
is
an
affordable
development,
let's
say
and
we're
looking
at
kind
of
this
back
end.
Those
rents
are
completely
controlled
by
law
and
won't
go
up
in
the
same
way.
This
is
simply
the
bill,
and
so
this
is
the
sort
of
math
that
developers
are
looking
at
at
upfront
when
they're
choosing
whether
or
not
to
develop
out
a
building
bi-state
law.
G
H
Yeah
I'd
be
curious
to
kind
of
hear
from,
and
maybe
that's
it's
a
good
research
question
elizabeth
to
ask
other
cities
that
have
used
this
program
if
they
do
see
that
with
some
of
the
developments
after
the
the
exemption
expires,
but
my
my
guess
would
be
that
and
and
I'm
not
a
developer,
so
I'm
making
I'm
making
assumptions,
but
my
guess
would
be
that
they're
building
in
that
tax
break
into
their
pro
forma
and
they're
sort
of
distributing
distributing
that
exemption
across,
like
you
know
their
50-year
forecast
of
their
of
their
revenues
that
they're
going
to
generate
through
rent.
H
So
I
wouldn't
expect
it
to
be
sort
of
like
a
direct
translation
of
you
know
the
year
the
exemption
goes
out.
They'll
want
to
keep
those
those
units
within
market
rate.
If,
if
they're
market
rate
projects
and
if
they're,
if
they're,
affordable,
housing
or
deep
restricted,
then
they
would
maintain
be
maintained
as
deed,
restricted,
typically
for
30
years.
C
Okay,
that
that
helps
because
that
that
concerned
me
do
I
have
time
for
another
question:
can
I
ask
you
smith,.
A
Would
it
be,
would
it
be
okay
if
we
go
to
the
others
for
their
questions
and
then
come
back
to
you
sure
great
kathy.
L
Okay,
I
was
curious
as
to
whether
there
could
be
a
phase
in
rather
than
at
just
going
from
exemption
to
paying
full
taxes
sounds
like
all.
This
is
in
state
law,
so
I
bet
that
wasn't
written
in,
but
it
just
seems
to
me
that,
having
that
much
that
abrupt
change
is
just
difficult
for
people.
G
That's
a
really
great
point
and
I
think
that's
another
topic.
We
could
definitely
look
and
see
if
anyone
has
sort
of
cracked
that
to
try
to
if
there
could
be
some
phasing
or
facing
down
on
the
tail
end.
I
I
agree.
I
think
it
may
not
be
feasible
because
of
state
law,
but
that's
certainly.
G
This
is
exactly
why
we're
coming
to
y'all,
because
you
all
have
the
great
questions
so
really
appreciate
these
thoughtful
questions,
and
we
can
definitely
put
some
more
research
in
and
see
what
we
can
find
before
the
next
work
group
meeting.
So
thank
you.
M
Oh,
thank
you.
I
was
wondering
where
this
is
all
coming
from.
At
the
outset
of
the
presentation,
you
all
said
that
this
mechanism
has
been
used.
I
think
you
said
less
than
10
times
and
I'm
wondering
is
that
a
I
take
it
that's
a
small
amount
and
if
it
is
a
small
amount,
why
hasn't
the
city
used
it
before
and
why
are
they
pushing
it
now
and
then
what
have
other
cities
have?
G
Yeah
so
I'll
clarify
that
a
little
so
we
have
one
existing
property
tax
exemption
in
place
right
now
it
is
called
the
low-income
rental
property
exemption,
or
something
like
that
in
terms
that
nobody
uses
anymore,
but
that's
what
it
is
in
state
law.
So
that's
what
we
still
call
it,
and
that
is
the
one
that
is
really
geared.
It
was
geared
towards
affordable
housing
developers
who
don't
already
qualify
for
any
number
of
other
exemptions
historically
in
bend
really
until
2017
2018.
G
When
I
came
on
board,
we
really
only
had
a
handful
of
affordable
housing
developers
who
worked
in
this
region.
That
has
changed
significantly
in
the
last
five
years
and
we
now
have
I'd,
say
national,
affordable
housing
developers
who
are
interested
in
developing
in
bend
because
of
the
incentive
systems
and
sort
of
support
that
they've
received
from
us.
So
that's
that's
a
huge
step,
so
we
I'd
say
half
of
the
uses
of
that
property.
Tax
exemption
have
been
within
the
last
five
years,
maybe
even
within
the
last
three
years.
G
So
that's
a
completely
separate
one
that
we
have
some
experience
with.
That
was
very
limited
and
intended
to
be
very
limited
from
the
start
that
has
grown
with
us
as
we've
grown.
G
What
has
happened
is
that,
as
we
continue
to
grow,
council
has
recognized
that
they
want,
like
any
I'd,
say,
city
council,
a
little
bit
more
control
over
how
that's
happening.
So
we
can
do
that
through
things
like
code
changes
and
zoning,
or
through
tools
like
this.
That
sort
of
are
separate,
but
also
do
allow
us
to
control
the
type
of
development
and
the
mass
and
scale
of
that
development
more
than
we
would.
G
If
we
didn't
have
a
program
like
this,
so
as
council
continues
to
promote
housing
of
all
types
and
affordability
of
all
types,
you
all
know
that
that's
one
of
their
top
goals,
if
not
the
top
goal
in
this
biennium
they're,
really
looking
at
what
what's
still
out
there,
that
we
haven't
done
yet-
and
these
are
some
of
those
things
so
we've,
as
I
say,
picked
a
lot
of
the
low-hanging
fruit
when
it
comes
to
housing,
affordability,
we're
doing
a
lot
more
than
a
lot
of
other
communities,
but
we
also
have
bigger
factors
that
we're
fighting
against
I'll,
say
in
our
growth
and
our
escalation
and
our
popularity
and
so
needing
to
employ
different
tools
and
more
tools
to
continue
to
promote
the
type
of
housing
at
the
ranges
in
rent
or
price
that
we
would
like
them
to
so
so.
G
I
hope
that
that
clarifies
a
little
bit
sort
of
the
exemption
that
I
mentioned,
and
only
using
that
10
times
and
sort
of
what
we're
doing
now
within
that
cds
I'd
say,
have
varied
uptake
on
these
exemptions.
The
nonprofit
one
is
in
strong
use
all
through
a
lot
of
communities.
That's
one
that
that
is
used
in
most
places.
We
just
didn't
need
it
until
recently,
and
that's
the
other
thing.
We
don't
often
pass
policy
here
just
for
the
sake
of
it.
G
Usually
we
wait
until
there's
something
ripe
where
we're
ready
to
go
and
that's
what
happened
with
the
non-profit
and
with
the
mufti
exemption.
We've
done
a
lot
of
work
internally,
trying
to
predict
what
this
looks
like.
How
many
folks
would
use
it
and
there's
a
few
too
many
variables
today
for
us
to
get
a
really
solid
understanding
of
exactly
the
number
of
dollars?
Let's
say
that
we
would
forego
in
any
number
of
years.
G
However,
we
hope
to
get
a
little
closer
to
what
those
numbers
are
through
the
next
few
months
of
work
with
this
working
group
and
with
the
taxing
districts,
etc,
as
we
continue
to
design
these
programs,
for
instance,
if
you
all
said
you
know,
mukti
shouldn't
just
be
in
these
areas:
it
should
be
everywhere,
or
it
should
only
be
in
this
zone
that
would
significantly
influence
the
uptake
that
would
be
possible
for
that
exemption.
G
So
so
those
are
the
types
of
things
that
we're
looking
at
right
now
to
try
to
get
closer
to
what
those
numbers
are,
but
there
have
been
varied
uptake,
so
I
talked
about
middle
income
only
in
use
in
tillamook
to
date
when
we
talked
to
them
a
number
of
months
ago.
I
think
there
was
one
development
that
was
sort
of
ready
to
go
there,
but
their
development
rate
is
also
much
lower
than
ours
generally.
So
it's
very
hard
to
predict,
but
we
do
have
good
examples
from
other
cities.
G
One
more
thought
on
that
before
I
let
it
go
and
I'm
sorry
I'm
talking
for
a
really
long
time,
but
I
just
think
that
this
is
really
important.
None
of
these
are
intended
to
be
permanent
without
ever
being
reviewed
again.
So
allison
talked
a
lot
about.
You
know
with
those
potential
muppty
and
with
vertical.
We
would
really
be
looking
at
those
for
a
very
limited
term,
and
I
think
whatever
we
decide
to
do,
the
staff
recommendation
will
be
to
evaluate
these.
Probably
at
the
five
and
seven
year
mark
and
decide.
Are
these
working?
G
Are
these
not
working?
Has
their
time
passed?
Do
we
need
to
do
more
all
of
those
sort
of
things
you
know,
let's
go
back
and
review
whether
this
is
giving
us
what
we
want
or
not
five
years,
because
it
takes
a
long
time
for
folks
to
really
scope
out
buildings
and
and
get
to
that
point,
and
so
that's
when
we'll
really
start
see
some
some
use
of
this
strongly.
If
it's
working
the
way
we
think
it
might
so.
I
hope
that
helps
and
answer
the
question,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
do
some
follow-up.
G
H
I
we
we
have
been
looking
at
some
of
these
programs
since
2016..
It
does
take
a
lot
of
capacity
to
to
do
all
this
work
and
to
kind
of
get
through
the
vetting
process
and
bring
them
forward
to
adoption.
We
almost
adopted.
H
A
A
And
then
our
person
who
ends
up
participating
on
the
work
committee,
can
you
let
us
know
who
that
is
so
that
we
can
forward
questions
to
them
to
address
at
their
meetings?
Would
that
be.
A
I
am
muted
and
you
can't
hear
me,
let's
move
forward
with
committee
liaison
reports
and
dave
you're
up.
First
with
council
community
building.
E
I
encourage
everyone
to
look
at
the
the
file
recording
of
that
meeting,
because
the
what
came
up
was
the
the
waste
water
management
system.
E
The
assumptions
that
they're
making
for
the
next
20
to
30
years,
and
so
you
really
need
to
you
know
you
don't
really
need
to
listen
hard
or
to
watch
it
all
the
time.
But
you
know
put
on
your
your
earbud
and
carry
your
phone
around
with
you
and
listen
to
that,
because
these
assumptions
that
they're
making
on
this
wastewater
master
plan
are
going
to
drive
where
bend
is
going
for
the
next
20
to
30
years
and
if
you're
not
aware
of
those
yeah,
you
know
you're
you're
hindered.
E
E
I
think
I
asked
michaela
to
send
us
the
youtube
address
to
to
all
of
the
n
a
mla
leaders,
but
I'm
sure
she
would
be
happy
to
do
it
again,
because
this
is
eye-opening
and
if
you
want
to
know
what
assumptions
are
driving
ben's
development
for
the
next
20
to
30
years,
you
have
to
listen,
you
have
to
listen
to
it,
so
the
next
building
the
submarine
committee
meeting
is
like
they
showed
on
the
slide
february
23rd,
and
I
will
be
looking
at
that
and
making
notes.
E
But
the
december
22nd
meeting
cannot
be
summarized
you
just
have
to
part.
You
have
to
listen
to
it.
So
that's
my
input
on
community
building
subcommittee.
N
N
So
I'm
not
gonna
even
try
to
go
and
explain
what
the
recommendations
are,
but
I'm
not
I'm
not
comfortable
presenting
to
the
city
council
as
as
a
sole
dissenting
vote.
I
what
I'd
like
is
talking
points
from
the
nla
that
I
can
speak
on
behalf
of
the
nla.
N
My
particular
neighborhood
association
is
adamantly
against
the
shelter
code
amendments
I
everyone.
I've
talked
to
is
against
them,
and
yet
I'm
the
guy,
that's
one
of
two
people.
That's
going
to
be
presenting
and
trying.
I
guess
I'm
I'm
in
a
quandary
in
that
I'm
presenting
them,
but
I'm
totally
against
them
from
the
perspective
of
who
I've
talked
to
not
personally,
but
mostly
from
the
80
percent
of
the
people
that
responded
to
the
survey
that
went
out
over
800
people
said
they
did
not
support
these
shelter
code
amendments.
F
F
I
don't
know
who
that
was,
but
I
wanted
to
jump
in
here
and
just
kind
of
give
you
an
overview,
and
I
think
this
is
good
for
the
entire
committee
to
know,
but
when
we
are
invited
to
a
work
session
with
planning
commission.
What
it
means
is
that
planning
commission
for
the
first
time
is
hearing
from
staff
about
the
issues.
They've
typically
been
given
a
packet
about
a
week
beforehand
to
to
look
over.
F
You
know,
we've
all
been
given
the
shelter
code,
amendments
that
are
being
proposed,
and
so
what's
going
to
happen
at
that
meeting
on
the
24th
is
that
the
staff
will
share
what
those
amendments
are
with
planning
commission
and
the
nla.
Bdab
and
a
hack
will
all
and
sorry
I'm
using
acronyms
the
bend
economic
development
advisory
board
and
the
affordable
housing
advisory
board
will
also
have
representatives
that
are
sitting
there
alongside
sean,
and
so
what
is
expected
of
the
representatives
that
are?
There
is
just
that
they
contribute
to
the
discussion.
F
If
there's
they
sit
and
they
learn
about
the
amendments.
If
there's
some
concerns
that
they
know
ahead
of
time
that
their
committee
and
constituents
might
have
issues
with,
they
can
bring
it
up
at
that
time,
and
but
what
we're
really
going
to
be
asking
is
that
people
listen
into
that
work
session,
people
being
the
public
and
that
they
hear
about
the
code
amendments
and
then
the
public
hearing
is
going
to
come
later.
F
So
the
work
session
is
first
and
then
it
goes
to
a
public
hearing
with
planning
commission
and
that
public
hearing
is
the
a
great
time
for
people
to
come
and
actually
get
their
comments
on
the
record
before
planning
commission.
So
the
nla
and
our
our
role
is
just
to
kind
of
share
what
we
are
hearing.
So
I
would
be
interested
to
know
if
any
of
you
have
had
comments
from
your
own
boards
from
your
own
constituents
that
you
want
to
share
with
sean
so
that
we
can.
F
A
F
Yeah,
so
you
know
the
expectation
as
an
nla
is
that
we
have
heard
about
the
shelter
codes
back
in
november,
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
communication
about
when
they're
coming
out
what
the
they
look
like
as
they've
been
created,
and
so
the
hope
is
that
you've
been
hearing
from
people
or
you've
been
asking
your
members,
and
so,
if
you
have,
this
is
the
time
to
to
chat
about
that.
So
it
would
be
too
late
if
I
was
to
ask
for
people
to
wait
and
and
send
me
messages
later.
A
A
O
F
You
can
send
them
to
me.
I
don't
know
that
they
will
be
included
in
sean's
talking
points,
because
we
do
need
to
discuss
here
and-
and
I
want
to
know
that
more
neighborhoods
agree.
I.
O
Just
found
out
that
we
needed
those
just
now
and
and
so
our
meetings
on
monday
and
that's
that's
as
soon
as
I'm
going
to
be
able
to
get
response
so
I'll
just
see
what
we
could
do,
but
I
think
there's
going
to
be
some
thoughts
and
I
don't
have
that
you
know
to
document
tonight,
but
I'll
just
I'll,
just
send
it
to
you
michaela
if
that
works,
we'll
just
see
how
it
goes.
Thank
you.
F
Yeah,
and
just
so
you
know,
if
you
can
all
send
planning
commission
your
own
letters
from
your
neighborhood
associations,
it
does
not
have
to
be
as
an
nla
statement.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
what's
discussed
at
the
nla
is
brought
forward
in
the
appropriate
manner.
A
K
The
primary
concern
is
about
the
unmanaged
camps
and
that's
not
part
of
the
amendments,
and
but
we
also
would
like
to
advocate
that
neighborhood
associations
be
informed
and
notified
as
much
as
possible
when
potential
shelters
would
be
located
within
their
neighborhood
and
that
we
would
have
a
role
in
communicating
that
to
our
members.
But
southern
crossing
does
support
the
amendments
at
this
time.
C
I
have
heard
from
a
lot
of
neighbors
in
southwest
bend
that
they
are
very
concerned
about
any
kind
of
managed
camp
near
bend
high.
C
That's
one
of
the
high
schools
that
part
of
our
neighborhood
goes
to
bend
high,
and
so
every
parent
that
I
have
heard
from
is
very
concerned
about
that
particular
location
for
a
managed
camp.
I've
also
heard
concern
about
the
the
option
that
allows
somebody
to
camp
in
a
person's
driveway.
C
A
lot
of
people
have
raised
concerns
about
about
that
affecting
the
their
their
small
neighborhood
right
around
where
they
live.
So
that's.
Those
are
the
two
main
feedbacks
that
I
have
heard
from
quite
a
few
people
in
southwest
bend.
L
Okay,
under
the
previous
chair
of
bonna,
there
was
a
letter
sent
to
city
council,
saying
absolutely
they
didn't
want
any
managed
homeless
camps
in
vaughan.
I
did
not
support
that,
so
we
are
taking
a
new
tact.
L
We
have
three
or
four
people
who
have
said
absolutely
no
way
who
have
contacted
me
and
are
rather
angry,
but
they
just
go
to
worst
case
analysis
worst
case
scenarios
of
how
bad
it's
going
to
be,
and
I
think
that
I
personally
see
that
almost
anything
we
do
has
got
to
be
better
than
what
it
is
now
we
have
huddle
road
encampment
if
I
may
call
it
that
is
within
boyd
acres,
and
that
seems
just
unacceptable
to
be
treating
our
neighbors
that
way
to
be
forcing
people
to
live
under
those
conditions.
L
L
P
Hi
thanks
for
calling
on
me
sean,
I
think
I
have
neighbors
that
are
pretty
much
communicating
the
same
thing
that
you've
heard
from
your
neighbors.
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
support
for
these
code
amendments.
P
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
support
for
anything
that
they're
reading
right
now
in
particular,
there
is
huge
concern
over
any
of
the
managed
camps
being
close
to
schools
and
there's
a
very
large
contingent
of
people
that
are
concerned
that
the
managed
camps
may
not
have
all
of
the
services
and
the
access
to
transit
that
we're
hoping
for
for
whatever
it
is
that
we
try
to
come
up
with,
but
in
general,
not
a
lot
of
support.
D
As
far
as
larkspur
is
concerned,
I
think
we
tend
to
mirror
karen's
comments
from
southern
crossing
in
favor
of
these
code
amendments
on
behalf
of
our
unhoused
neighbors
and
just
some
some
stated
concerns
over
communication
with
nas
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we're
on
top
of
that
in
terms
of
letting
neighborhoods
know
and
kind
of
be
involved
in
the
process.
D
Also,
you
know
have
heard
similar
concerns
about
folks
who
are
living
in
unsupported
ways,
whether
that's
risk
of
fire
or
various
other
things.
That's
why
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
support
for
these
code.
Amendments
is
that
folks
here
recognize
it's
incredibly
difficult
to
live
and
bend
and
not
have
a
roof
over
your
head,
and
so
it
is
our
community's
responsibility
to
take
care
of
these
folks.
D
On
a
personal
note,
you
all
know
that
I
participate
in
in
sheltering
people
when
the
weather
is
extreme
kind
of
on
an
emergency
basis,
and
this
population
is
near
and
dear
to
my
heart.
We
have.
We
have
truly-
and
I
wish
this
was
hyperbole,
but
we
have
a
humanitarian
crisis
on
our
hands
in
terms
of
housing
availability
in
our
community
and
the.
D
I'm
not
sure
what
you
what
you
called
it
kathy,
though
the
worst
case
scenario
imaginings
of
people
picturing
a
managed
camp,
looking
like
an
encampment
or
or
like
a
huddle
road
or
these
other
communities
that
pop
up,
because
they
don't
have
anywhere
else
to
go.
That's
just
not
the
reality
of
what
the
city
is
advocating
for.
D
That's
not
the
reality
of
what
our
unhoused
service
providers
are
hoping
for,
and
so
I
think
this
group
has
an
obligation
not
only
to
support
not
only
to
support
these
code
amendments,
but
also
to
help
stop
spreading
misinformation
about
what
these
communities
will
look
like
as
supported
camps
and
supported
communities.
D
M
Yeah
I'll
just
I'll
just
say
that
aubry
butte
is
having
its
meeting
tomorrow
morning.
We've
had
limited
discussions
about
this
issue
in
the
past
and
my
sense
about
the
group,
but
not
the
members
of
our
abna,
is
that
there's
a
recognition
that
it's
a
critical
issue
as
morgan
just
said,
but
I
think
there
is
some
serious
reservations
about
some
of
the
provisions,
but
I'll
get
a
better
sense
and
we'll
communicate
that
when
I
have
it.
A
Thanks
chris
anyone
else
all
right.
Thank
you.
Everyone
for
chiming
in
this
is
a
great
example
of
what
this
group
was
created.
To
do
so.
Thank
you
for
all
participating
sean
anything
else.
N
So
I
made
notes
as
people
talked
and
it's
let's
call
it
60
40
that
whether
or
not
the
individual
neighborhood
associations
support
this
or
not
after
hearing
morgan.
I
question
whether
or
not
she
might
be
a
better
person
to
attend
this.
She
knows
more
than
I
do.
I've
only
been
to
one
meeting.
N
It
was
the
eighth
meeting
after
hans
resigned,
but
my
nla
and
my
personal
opinions
are
pretty
one-sided
and
I'm
kind
of
stuck
between
a
a
rock
and
a
hard
place,
and
I'm
not
comfortable
representing
the
nla,
with
the
pressure
that
I
have
personally
on
me
from
my
neighborhood
association,
my
neighbors
and
again
I
go
back
to
that
thousand
person
survey
where
800
of
them
didn't
support
this.
N
A
I
agree.
Thank
you,
sean
for
for
bringing
up
the
question
and
I
agree
they
all
need
michaela
to
weigh
in.
But
I
want
to
say
first,
my
knee-jerk
reaction
when
you
first
started
speaking
was
that
just
because
you
don't
agree,
doesn't
necessarily
mean
you
shouldn't
be
at
the
table.
A
I
love
having
dissenting
voices
because
it
gives
different
perspectives,
but
then
I
hear
what
you're
saying
about
this:
putting
you
in
a
difficult
position
right,
because,
if
you're
into,
if
you're
supposed
to
be
a
representative
and
of
nla
and
speak
to
the
majority
of
the
nla,
that's
in
contradiction
to
what
your
neighborhood
is
providing
input
on.
Is
that
what
I'm
understanding.
O
A
So
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
more
your
preference
like
if
you
feel
like
you,
need
to
step
down
because
because
of
this
position,
I
think
all
of
us
would
understand
that
and
that's
a
little
bit
different
scenario.
Michaela.
What
are
your
thoughts.
F
Sure
I'm
actually
going
to
ask
ian
to
chat
with
us
about
it.
Q
Thanks
so
much
thanks,
I
have
a
mouthful
of
sunflower
seeds
because
that's
my
bad
habit
when
the
camera's
off
so
sorry.
For
that
I
did
so.
I
don't
know
so
my
this
is
a
supposition.
I'm
not
completely
certain,
but
my
my
take
or
educated
guess
is
that
sean
you
were
asked
to
participate
because
of
current
noa
members.
Q
Q
I
think
you
know,
I
think
at
the
least
the
it
would
be
great
if,
if
somebody
could
present
who
had
been
to
you
know
all
or
a
majority
of
the
sounding
board
meetings,
because
they
have
that
context,
we
don't
have
that
the
nla
doesn't
currently
have
that
you
stepped
in
ably
for
one
meeting,
but
that's
that
that
isn't
the
whole
scope
of
that
process.
So
my
take
is
that,
given
that
nla
doesn't
have
that,
somebody
needs
to
be
there.
Q
I
have
an
idea
of
who
that
might
be,
and
no
offense,
because
I
love
you
all,
it's
not
sean
and
it's
not
morgan,
because
I
think
both
of
you
have.
I
don't
want
to
say
you're
at
opposite
ends
of
the
spectrum,
but
I
think
we
are
one.
One
of
you
has
concerns
and
your
your
constituents
has
have
concerns
and
another
of
you
as
an
advocate
and
is
highly
supportive
of
the
changes,
and
that's
all
good.
Q
Q
I
should
cough
and
say
it's
the
chair,
but
that's
not
for
me
to
decide.
That's
for
you
to
decide.
D
I
appreciate
how
you
put
all
that
in
thank
you
that
that's
that
that
doesn't
bother
me
at
all.
I,
and
I
also
would
support
summer.
If
you
wanted
to
do
that
or
if
there's
anything
I
can
do
to
help
or
help
with
talking
points
or
be
in
conversation
with
sean
I'm
open
to
all
possibilities.
I
do
think,
for
the
sake
of
that,
in
kind
of
what
you
refer
to
as
like
a
a
pretty
balanced
reflection
of
the
feedback
that
we're
getting.
D
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
mindful
of
the
survey
that
we're
referencing,
where
800
of
a
thousand
respondents
were
against
these
changes
that
we
all
know
and
have
identified
the
limitations
of
our
circles
of
our
representation,
not
only
on
the
nla
but
on
our
nas,
and
we
are
coming
to
know
or
or
have
already
realized.
D
You
know
that
participation
in
these
things
is
not
really
accessible
to
everyone,
and
certainly
those
who
might
benefit
most
from
these
code.
Changes
are
not
involved
in
that
conversation,
and
probably
you
know,
might
not
even
have
the
ability
to
access
a
community
survey
even
if
they
wanted
to.
So
I
just
hope
that
whoever
presents
takes
that
into
consideration
and
that
that
we
reflect
that.
That
probably
wasn't
a
very
broad
community
survey.
It
was
probably
people
who
are
the
most
passionately
engaged
and
possibly
with
a
lot
of
privilege.
A
So,
in
response
to
ian's
suggestion,
I
am
really
grateful
for
the
the
compliment.
I
will
take
it
as
a
compliment
and
that
that
you
feel
I
could
present
both
sides.
That
said,
I
do
not
have
the
capacity
to
take
this
on,
even
though
it
is
an
incredibly
important
topic
to
me.
I
just
don't.
I
don't
have
the
capacity.
So,
let's
get
creative.
What
else?
What
else
can
we
do?
A
P
Q
Yeah
I'll
jump
in
and
say
I
don't
I
don't
it's
not
forbidden
there.
There
is
no
such
rule.
You
know
we
I'll
throw
one
other
thing
out
there.
It's
it's.
It's
maybe
not
quite
the
same
depending
on
your
perspective,
but
you
know
we
have
somebody
who,
whose
job
it
is
to
kind
of
represent,
guide
and
advise
in
a
way
in
a
pretty
objective,
neutral
matter
and
her
name
is
michaela.
F
A
Do
we
feel
like
we
need
to
maybe
have
someone
summarize
and
run
it
back
by
the
group,
or
do
we
feel
comfortable
that
michaela
has
the
notes
of
this
meeting
and
can
pull
that
together.
I'm
personally
comfortable
with
that
does.
Anyone
else
have
concerns.
C
I
don't
I
don't
have
any
concerns
with
michaela
taking
that
on.
I
really
appreciate
that.
I
would
say
that
I,
in
my
sharing
of
sbna's
sort
of
the
feedback
that
I
have
heard.
I
don't
know
that
that's
the
most
complete
picture.
C
So
if,
if
there
is
still
time
because
I
said
there
was
concern
about
locating
a
managed
camp
next
to
the
school
bend
high
and
that
I
heard
feedback
about
the
the
driveway
campers,
I
mean
if
I
could
flesh
that
out
in
a
better
way
and
send
that
along.
If
that
would
work,
then
I
would
feel
like.
I
gave
a
more
complete
picture
of
what
what
I
have
heard
from
from
my
neighbors.
F
Sure
I
think
what
I
will
do
is
stick
to
you
know
what
has
been
discussed
today.
F
I
think
that's
still
a
common
theme
that
we
saw
throughout
some
of
the
feedback
we
received
was
the
schools
and
the
hardship,
shelters,
and
so
I'm
happy
to
bring
that
to
them,
and
then
just
so
you
know
the
nla
will
be
writing
a
letter
if
you
want
to
when
it
comes
to
the
hearing
schedule,
and
so
any
of
those
comments
that
you're
getting
and
if
you're
going
back
to
your
boards
and
discussing
this
with
them,
those
are
going
to
be
helpful
to
be
input
into
the
that
position
that
the
nla
takes
later
on.
F
J
Yeah,
I
just
was
hoping
to
jump
in
a
little
bit
since
I
and
the
liaison
to
the
sounding
board.
I
think,
if
there's
any
way,
we
could
include
hans
in
this
in
this
discussion.
J
I
think
one
of
the
things
that's
been
missing
is
really
understanding
sort
of
how
decisions
have
were
made
on
the
sounding
board
over
the
course
of
those
six
months.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
how
we
could
bring
him
back
or
or
if
he
could
provide
some
more
background.
I
know
that
he
gave
you
updates
at
your
meetings,
but
just
just
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful
to
this
discussion
and
to
the
planning
commission
discussion.
F
Thank
you.
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
good
idea
for
the
next
time
that
we
meet,
or
maybe
hans
can
summarize
what
his
conversations
have
been
and
email,
and
I
can
share
that
it
might
be
not
be
before
the
planning
commission,
but
just
to
get
everybody
on
the
same
page
of
where
we
came
from,
and
just
to
remind
everyone
too,
that
these
changes.
F
This
work
session
is
for
the
code,
specific
changes
that
are
being
made,
not
the
entire
picture
of
houselessness
solutions
that
the
city
is
looking
at
right
now,
so
it
is
kind
of
limited
to
that.
One
subsection.
If
you
need
to
focus
your
conversations
at
all
kathy.
L
Let
me
say
something:
first,
okay
and
then
we'll
do
the
motion.
This
is
cathy
roach
and.
L
Cathy,
you
got
again
I've,
muted
and
unmuted
and
stuff.
Now
too
many
times
I'll
put
my
try
to
put
my
face
up.
Okay
there
I
am,
I
will
be
mikayla's
back
up
if,
if
her
boss-
or
somebody
else
says-
oh
no,
that's
not
your
role.
Michaela,
I
will
get
with.
I
would
volunteer
to
get
with
michaela
and
and
pull
together
the
notes
from
today's
meeting
and
present
them
at
the
planning
commission
meeting.
If
that,
if
the
group
wants
it
that
way,.
P
Well,
I'm
not
sure
if
we
need
a
little
bit
more
discussion,
so
I'm
still
of
the
opinion
that
I
I
really
think
that
having
hans
at
the
table
would
be
very
helpful
because
of
his
history
because
of
his
participation.
P
So
if
I
were
to
push
forward
a
motion,
it
would
be
that
hans
and
michaela
coordinate
and
work
together
to
prepare.
L
A
P
You
bet
I
have
it
right
here.
Let's
see
nart
last
met,
I
believe
it
was
december
17th.
P
We
had
a
pretty
robust
discussion
around
the
climate
friendly
roles
and
one
of
the
things
that
came
out
of
that
meeting
was
support
for
having
some
type
of
community
education
event
around
the
climate,
friendly
and
equitable
communities
rules,
and
so
many
of
you,
I'm
sure,
have
seen
michaela's
email
to
us
all.
That
event
is
going
to
be
tomorrow
at
5
30.
It
is
a
zoom
meeting,
anybody
can
attend
and
we
will
have
representatives
from
the
dlcd
lcdc
as
well
as
city
of
bend,
to
help
us
better
understand
some
of
what's
happening
with
these
climate-friendly
rules.
P
P
A
A
A
Okay,
seeing
none,
I
also
understand
that
kathy
kathy
great.
E
F
L
A
F
A
F
So
with
that,
I
would
like
to
ask
the
committee
for
a
motion.
It
looks
like
chair,
sears
and
member
roche
have
both
nominated
themselves
for
these
positions.
If
anyone
has
an
opinion
about
who
should
be
in
which
position
you
can
make
those
nominations
now.
F
E
Do
we
need
a
motion?
Okay,
I
moved
that
we
had
summer
as
a
chair
and
kathy
is
nice
chair.
A
A
A
F
Or
explore
other
options
so
another
thing
that
we
can
do
and
we've
done
this
in
the
past
is
if
we
want
to
look
at
a
date
and
time
that
is
not
the
second
tuesday,
I
can
send
out
a
doodle
poll
with
some
of
the
dates
that
will
work
that
I
know
won't
conflict
with
the
many
other
planning
commission,
council
and
committee
meetings
that
we
have.
A
F
A
B
Yeah
good,
I
have
had
some
zoom
problems
today,
yeah.
The
only
issue
I
had
is
the
transportation
advisory
committee
was
meeting
at
the
same
time
as
the
nla
in
november,
and
so
I
had
to
submit
comments
to
them
and
I
did
have
comments
but
at
10
dnla.
So
that's
my
only
concern
and
I
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
continue
doing
it,
but
they
did
it
back
in
in
november.
Thank
you.
F
Right
and
I'm
not
sure
what
that
schedule
is
looking
like,
so
I
can
look
into
that.
M
Yeah,
I
just
I'm
new,
so
maybe
it's
not
even
appropriate
for
me
to
say,
but
I'm
wondering,
is
it
possible
to
do
it
sort
of
more
on
an
ad
hoc
basis
over
say
a
period
of
say
three
months
as
opposed
to
setting
a
date
and
time
for
the
entire
year?
I'm
not
sure
what
I
I've
never
met
any
of
you
folks
in
in
real
life.
So
it's
a
little
hard
for
me
to
say,
but
I'm
wondering
as
a
retired
person
who
does
do
some
traveling.
M
I
hate
to
be
missing
meetings
since
I've
volunteered
and
I
think
I'm
going
gonna
just
foresee
that
that
happening.
If
we
just
lock
into
a
specific
time,
as
opposed
to
start
running
on
maybe
a
quarterly
basis
as
an
ad
hoc
arrangement
like
through
doodle
polls
or
something.
F
Sure
I
think
you
know
in
having
a
set
meeting
as
a
committee,
allows
a
little
bit
more
accessibility
for
people
and
who
don't
follow
the
updates
and
public
notices
that
we
put
out
there.
I'm
not
sure
what
our
limitations
are.
So
I'm
happy
to
look
into
it
further
and
see
if
we
could
do
it
on
a
quarterly
basis
or
just
revisit
this.
Every
quarter,
I'm
not
sure,
but.
F
F
D
I'm
I'm
all
for
reviewing,
but
just
want
to
say
that
having
a
consistent
time
frame
that
I
can
block
out
is
really
really
what
allows
me
to
participate,
and
I
can't
remember
I
feel
like
maybe
we
moved
some
things
around
last
summer
based
on
collective
travel,
but
you
know,
and
so
I'm
totally
open
to
that
as
things
come
up,
but
the
more
we
can
keep
it
kind
of
steady
that
helps.
A
Me
out
personally,
I
was
thinking
that
as
well,
so
I'd
propose
that
we
keep
it,
keep
it
on
the
second
tuesday
from
four
to
six
and
then
revisit
before
we
go
into
the
summer.
To
make
sure
the
dates
are
still
going
to
work.
F
K
I
support
having
a
standing
time
just
so
I
could
block
out
the
time
similar
to
what
other
people
have
said,
but
I'd
also
like
to
bring
up
that
it'd
be
great.
If
we
could
have
alternates
stand
in
when
we
can't
make
it
even
as
a
non-voting
representative
of
our
neighborhood
association.
K
So
I'd
like
to
get
that
on
the
table,
because
there
are
times
where
we
can't
make
the
meetings
and
there
and
then
arnie
aren't
represented.
F
Thanks
karen,
I
know
that
our
legal
office
is
looking
into
alternates
because
it's
been
a
question
that
a
lot
of
the
committees
have
been
bringing
up,
and
so
I
am
not
sure,
oh
ian
popped
up.
That's
always
scary,
if
that's
ready
to
go
out
yet
what
the
results
of
that
investigation
have
been
but
I'll.
Let
him
talk
to
you.
Q
Yeah,
it
is,
and
just
for
the
nla
as
a
whole,
so
we've
had
on
city,
advisory
boards,
commissions
committees.
There
have
been
sort
of
various
practices
that
have
developed
over
the
years
about
how
alternates
are
appointed
and
used,
and
so
we
started
recognizing
that
and
got
occasional
questions,
and
so
I
put
together
a
mmo
that
some
staff
liaisons
have
been
reviewing
and
it
is
ready
to
go
michaela.
Q
But
the
bottom
line
is:
is
that,
based
on
the
code,
alternates
can
be
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
council
for
reports
and
committees,
but
they
can't
that
doesn't
give
them
any
ability
to
participate
or
step
in
it's
basically
just
somebody
that
is
sort
of
pre-approved
for
subsequent
formal
appointment
to
the
border
commission.
If
a
vacancy
arises
so
alternates
exist,
the
mayor
council
can
choose
to
appoint
them.
Q
Q
They're
alternates
are
good
to
have,
but
they
don't
really
provide
the
ability
to
step
in
and
let
a
border
committee
sort
of
be
more
nimble
or
fill
a
gap
or
an
absence
kind
of
on
an
ad
hoc
basis.
A
Okay,
I
think
we're
ready
to
move
forward
on
this.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
get
to
jim
cristo's
letter
because
we
had
to
push
that
last
month.
Chris
did
you
still
have
something
your
hand
is
still
up
chris
person.
A
No
okay,
jim
did
you
have
something
quickly:
okay,
all
right
great,
let's
move
forward
with
the
letter
from
jim,
so
I
think
we've
all
had
a
chance.
Hopefully,
we've
had
a
chance
to
review
his
comments
in
his
letter.
Thank
you,
jim,
for
providing
that
I
pulled
two
two
main
themes
out
of
that
one
is
working
with
city
staff
to
make
sure
they
understand
the
role
of
the
nla
and
I
believe
michaela's
been
working
on
some
of
that,
but
now
that
I've
caught
her
with
her
mouth
full,
you
can
give
an
update.
F
F
Yeah,
I
think
just
I'd
like
to
give
jim
an
opportunity
to
to
talk
about
his
letter
and
then
I
can
share
some
of
the
ideas
I've
had
since
since
going
over
that.
F
A
B
Okay,
so
so,
when
I
heard
about
what
you
know,
michaela
using
her
expertise
had
put
together,
I
guess
for
the
november
meeting
I
was
a
little
concerned
that
it
kind
of
represented
more
of
a
city
viewpoint
as
to
what
our
challenges
and
obstacles
are
rather
than
a
viewpoint,
and
since
we
spent
a
fair
amount
of
time
in
previous
meetings,
kind
of
listing
all
the
barriers
that
we
see
it
seems
to
me,
a
probably
a
good
way
of
going
ahead
would
be
to
kind
of
take
that
another
step,
in
other
words
list
all
of
the
you
know
the
barriers
that
each
na
had
had
talked
about
and
see
if
the
other
nas
have
the
same
issue,
and
that
would
help
us,
I
think,
prioritize
issues.
B
B
Perhaps
one
could
add
to
it
as
saying
you
know
each
na
views
this
as
a
major
problem,
a
minor
problem
or
not
a
problem,
and
I
think
if
we
do
that
and
then
tally
everything
up.
We
could
get
a
good
idea
of
what's
really
important
for
the
n
a's
from
an
n
a
viewpoint,
and
then
we
could
kind
of
compare
that
with
what
the
michaela
had
put
together
and
see
if
we
agree
or
whether
there's
disagreements
and
we
can
kind
of
modify
that
to
kind
of
move
forward.
B
You
know
that
way.
I
think
each
na
might
feel
like
they've
been
heard,
and
if
we
all
have
the
same
problem,
then
it
probably
needs
to
be
a
high
priority
issue
there,
and
so
that
that's
kind
of
my
main
theme
there.
I
go
into
some
discussions
and
I
go
on
to
talk
about
an
interaction
I
had
with
one
of
the
city
project
engineers.
B
A
Just
wanted
to
apologize
for
jim
that
I
didn't
start
out
that
way,
because
that
was
very
helpful.
Thank
you
for
summarizing
that.
F
Yeah,
I
have
been
thinking
about
it
and
it's
funny
because
a
lot
of
what
you
said
jim
right,
there
is
what
this
assessment
is
trying
to
capture
too,
so
that
we
could
all
talk
about
what
the
barriers
to
being
a
part
of
a
neighborhood
association
are
how
the
city
could
help,
and
we
are
just
now
getting
to
the
point
in
that
assessment,
where
I'm
going
to
be
coming
to
the
neighborhood
associations
and
talking
to
you
one-on-one
about
what
your
issues
are
and
what
you
opportunities
you
see,
and
so
I
think
that
there's
two
ways
you
know
we
could
do
this
if
you
wanted
one.
F
I
would
like
to
incorporate
some
of
your
comments
into
those
discussions,
because
I
will
be
going
to
all
13.
and-
and
I
can
summarize
those
in
my
notes
as
part
of
the
assessment,
I
think
if
you
wanted
a
a
quick
turnaround
on
yes,
no,
we
haven't,
or
we
do
deal
with
this.
We
don't
deal
with
this.
We
could
do
a
quick
survey
in
one
of
my
upcoming
newsletters,
where
just
one
person
from
each
neighborhood
would
click.
F
Yes,
no,
and
it
would
probably
be
just
like
the
chart
that
you
put
out
in
your
in
your
letter.
I
could
see
doing
that
as
well,
so
happy
to
do
either
way.
But
I
agree
with
you.
I
think
the
ultimate
goal
is
that
we
understand
what
the
true
barriers
are:
not
the
city's
barriers,
not
the
n
a's
barriers,
but
what
other
people
are
seeing
as
difficulty
to
access
the
neighborhoods
and
to
come
up
with
some
solutions
to
overcome
those.
So
I'm
open
to
direction
on
this.
E
Could
you
resend
the
jim's
letter.
F
A
So
another
thought
either,
instead
of
or
in
addition
to
what
michaela
brought
up
as
options.
A
B
You
know,
send
out
a
survey
to
all
the
nas
or
doing
it
through
an
art.
You
know
I
yeah,
I'm
not
really
sure
I'm
not
experienced
with
narc,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
that
would
work,
but
that
would
kind
of
be
an
aid
to
her.
So
she
could,
maybe
you
know,
concentrate
her
energies
on
you
know
taking
those
results
to
each
of
the
nas
and
talking
about
them
and
getting
you
know
further,
you
know
clarifications
and
you
know
input
from
them
rather
than
saying:
okay,
what's:
okay,
nax?
B
What's
bothering
you
you
know,
so
I
think
they
could
be
complementary
and
it
might
help
michaela.
You
know,
do
the
assessment
that
she's
been
tasked
to
do
a
little
quicker
and
I'd
look
to
her
to
kind
of
confirm
if
my
idea
is
on
mark
or
way
off
target.
So
thanks.
F
Yeah,
I
agree
I'm
happy
to
put
that
in
a
newsletter.
It
should
be
going
out
either
at
the
end
of
this
week
or
next
week
and
everybody
could
respond
and
then
I
can
use
those
responses
in
my
conversations
that
I
have
with
dnas.
So.
F
I
can
do
it
in
both.
I
can
just
send
it
to
the
chairs.
I
haven't
thought
that
through
yet,
but
I
can
make
sure
that
we
get
one
from
each
neighborhood.
A
Great
thanks
everyone:
let's
move
right
into
our
rep
reports.
We
have
about
15
minutes
and
dave.
Can
I
have
you
go
first,
please.
E
Sure
we
had
our
board
meeting
last
night
and
we
are
kind
of
regrouping
and
we
have
the
next
three
mondays
that
are
being
put
together
by
two
of
our
board
members,
and
it
has
to
do
with
who
we
want
to
be
when
we
grow
up
and
so
we're.
You
know
we're
talking
about
board
goals
and
anyway,
we
are
going
to
be,
like.
I
said
in
the
next
three
mondays
deciding
how
we
go
forward
as
a
boy.
A
B
Okay,
one
thing
I
want
to
report
is:
we
have
started
a
joint
board
meeting
with
old
farm
district.
B
We
had
the
first
one
that
attended
earlier
this
month
and
it's
going
to
be
a
monthly
thing,
the
first
wednesday
of
every
month
and
we'll
be
talking
about
you
know,
issues
that
are
common
to
both
n
a's.
B
This
kind
of
grew
out
an
idea
that
my
vice
chair
had
last
year,
and
so
I've
been
talking
to
old
farm
about
it
and
so
they've
decided
to
make
it
kind
of
a
permanent
meeting,
so
we'll
be
working
with
them
very
closely
in
these
meetings
and
hope
to
you
know,
expand
it
to
other
nas
like
larkspur
to
handle
the
whole
southeast
quadrant
of
bends,
that's
kind
of
our
ultimate
goal,
but
we're
starting
we're
starting
one
step
at
a
time.
So
thank
you
very
much.
O
Yeah
we're
still
working
on
our
february
annual
meeting
and
we
have
our
board
meeting
on
monday
and
I
wanted
to
thank
michaela
and
the
group
for
the
opportunity
to
add
our
notes
regarding
the
go
bond.
O
We
actually
had
a
meeting
our
our
go
bond
representative
and
our
chair
met
with
the
city
for
an
hour
and
they
felt
like
some
of
their
comments
that
they
presented
were
included,
which
was
helpful
to
hear,
and
if
anybody
wanted
to
see
any
more
information
on
that,
let
me
know
I
think
it
went
into
the
notes
for
our
minutes.
O
I
didn't
get
to
say
this
at
the
start
of
the
meeting,
but
I
didn't
it's
too
late
to
change
because
the
minutes
were
approved,
but
I
did
I
had
a
technical
error.
I
didn't
oppose
the
nart
proposal
that
was
in
the
meeting.
I
don't
know
why
it
was
listed
as
opposed.
I
think
that
was
because
I
couldn't
get
my
mute
to
change
at
the
time,
so
I
was
just
going
to
add
that
and
I'll
keep
it
short,
but
that's
it.
Thank
you.
N
Yeah
we
had
our
meeting
or
board
meeting
about
a
week
ago.
The
we've
got
about
about
50
of
our
board
is
brand
new,
which
is
good
news,
so
we're
actually
rebuilding
our
board.
Our
our
focus
is
going
to
be
pretty
much
on
just
getting
them
up
to
speed
and
repopulating
the
various
committees
that
we
were
associated
with
before
that's
about
it.
P
Hi,
so
century
west
did
not
meet
in
december.
We
were
supposed
to
meet
and
unfortunately,
with
the
holidays
and
a
couple
of
illnesses,
we
had
to
cancel
our
holiday
get
together
and
we
were
all
really
bummed
about
that,
because
we
were
planning
to
do
this
in
person,
which
still
seems
like
such
a
novel
idea.
P
We
thought
that
we
were
going
to
resume
in-person
meetings,
beginning
with
our
january
19th
meeting
and
unfortunately,
kovid
is
forcing
us
to
reconsider
that
as
well.
So
we'll
continue
on
zoom
as
it
relates
to
board
activities,
we
will
be
planning
our
annual
meeting,
hopefully
as
we
get
together
on
the
19th.
We
are
not
doing
fire
ready
bend
this
year
because
we
recorded
all
of
those
sessions.
P
They
are
available
out
on
youtube
for
anyone
to
view
and
we're
planning
to
just
promote
the
heck
out
of
those
again
and
maybe
provide
a
few
other
resources
to
our
members
as
it
relates
to
fire
fire
readiness
and
fire
prevention
kind.
Of.
As
a
side
note,
I've
had
two
I've
had
one
opportunity
to
meet
directly
with
mount
bachelor,
village,
constituents
and-
and
that
was
in
october-
and
I
have
another
opportunity
to
meet
with
sunrise
village
coming
up
next
week.
P
It's
a
great
opportunity
to
meet
with
these
entities
individually,
these
hoa
groups
and
from
there
we
typically
will
increase
our
membership
out
of
out
of
those
meetings.
But
the
big
topic
continues
to
be
the
ceoid
possible
development.
That's
it.
M
E
Wastewater
master
plan
and
these
assumptions
are
very
deep
and
they
have
they
include
economy
and
employment
and
housing
and
infrastructure
that
are
going
to
be
directing
the
the
direct
we're
going
to
change
the
direction
of
the
city
for
the
next
20
to
30
years.
And
if
you're
not
aware
of
those
assumptions,
then
you're
going
to
be
hindered
because
you
know
it'll
happen
whether
or
not
we
or
anybody
else
are
concerned,
and
the
city
staff
has
made
its
assumptions
and
that's,
in
my
opinion,
that's
the
way
the
city
is
going
to
go.
M
Okay,
otherwise
abna
had
its
last
meeting
in
early
december.
We
meet
again
tomorrow.
I
think,
there's
there's
three
quick
things
where
we're
interested
in
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
slow
the
speeding
down
on
mount
washington
drive
and
so
we're
sort
of
gauging
whether
we
should
sort
of
get
more
active
about
this
or
whether
we
want
to
continue
to
play
a
neutral
role
haunts
us
work,
some
with
the
police
to
try
and
change
what's
happening
and
hasn't
had
a
lot
of
luck
because
of
their
lack
of
resources.
M
So
that's
one
big
issue:
the
other
two
are
the
development
projects
going
on
up
here:
compass,
corner
and
west
hills,
which
is
on
glasshow,
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
our
members
are
going
to
address
the
density
concerns
that
the
city
has
both
as
to
residences
and
parking
so
that
that's
a
sort
of
a
philosophical
issue
we're
trying
to
to
reconcile
with,
and
the
last
thing
is
obviously
the
stuff
that
lisa
spoke
about
with
nard
on
the
executive
order
from
the
governor.
M
C
We
have
our
next
board
meeting
next
week.
We
did
have
our
general
fall
general
meeting
back
in
november
and
it
was
attended
by
about
50
people
and
lisa
kindly
presented
land
use
101,
and
it
was
a
really
productive
and
and
positive
meeting.
I
believe
and
many
thanks
to
her.
C
C
There
is
talk
of
adding
housing,
but
we're
not
sure
what
that
means.
We
keep
getting
str
applications
and
yeah
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
L
Yeah
boyd
acres
continues
to
be
very
busy
with
with
str
applications.
They
come
through
our
land
use
stuff,
I'm
still
doing
land
use
it's
going
to
rotate
over
to
ashley
bebo.
L
As
soon
as
we
have
my
next
meeting,
michaela
is
setting
up
some
speakers
for
us
to
do
a
february
meeting
about
homeless
and
houselessness,
and
I'm
wondering
I'll
talk
to
michaela
about
it,
but
when
we
get
it
set
up
in
february,
maybe
we
want
to
open
it
up
to
any
of
the
rest
of
you
to
join.
F
Yeah
just
to
chris's
comments.
Actually
I
guess
that
we
might
be
approved
for
reducing
the
speed
limit
on
mount
washington
to
25
between
shevlin
and
skyliner,
so
I'm
gonna
follow
up
on
that
and
I'll.
Let
you
know
if
that's
confirmed.
D
Yeah
similar
to
sean,
we
had
a
november
meeting
and
have
had
some
board
members
come
out
of
the
woodwork
from
our
general
meeting,
so
we're
getting
ready
to
onboard
them.
On
monday
at
our
first
meeting
of
the
year,
we
had,
I
think,
a
handful
of
us
in
the
dei
training,
which
was
great
in
december,
but
we
didn't
meet
in
december,
so
feels
like
we're
just
ramping
up
for
2022,
and
I
think
a
big
chunk
of
our
time
on
monday
is
not
only
onboarding.
D
Those
new
board
members,
but
going
over
what
are
some
of
our
goals
and
dreams
for
this
year.
So
looking
forward
to
it.
A
District,
we
also
brought
in
a
couple
of
board
members
and
we
lost
a
board
member.
We
are
continuing
to
have
the
most
incredible
conversations
about
diversity,
equity,
inclusion,
completely,
fascinating,
all
different
kinds
of
perspectives
as
part
of
these
conversations
and
really
challenging
ourselves,
and
it's
difficult-
and
I
love
it.
So
I'm
proud
of
us
for
doing
that.
The
dei
lab
the
second
version.
There's
the
second
I'm
sorry
session,
I'm
really
excited
about.
We
have
several
of
our
folks.
A
I'm
going
to
attend
and
michaela
will
remind
us
about
the
details,
and
then
I
did
also
want
to
mention
within
orchard
district
with
the
storms
that
were
coming
through
the
windstorms
and
the
snowstorms.
E
F
And
I
can't
even
unmute
myself,
we
have
an
extra
minute,
so
I'm
gonna
spend
it
letting
you
guys
know
about
some
upcoming
stuff
that
we
have
going
on.
So
council
check-in
is
on
january
19th.
That
is
a
time
where
summer
and
or
kathy
is
going
to
be
attending
kathy.
This
is
a
surprise
to
you,
considering.
You
were
just
voted
into
vice
chair
tonight,
but
I'm
I'm
happy
to
chat
with
you
guys
about
that.
F
So
what
we
are
going
to
be
talking
about
during
that
meeting
and
I
should
go
back
council
check-ins-
are
a
time
where
we
check
in
on
the
progress
being
made
on
council
goals.
They
often
invite
committee
members
from
their
permanent
committees
to
join
and
provide
comment.
F
This
time
we
have
a
specific
topic
that
we're
at
being
asked
to
provide
comment
on,
and
that
is
the
climate
friendly
and
equitable
communities
initiative
that's
going
on
at
the
state
level
and
that
nar
is
having
an
information
session
about
tomorrow
night,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
summer
wants
to
be
the
person
that
goes
to
that
or
lisa.
F
I
know
you've
been
working
really
closely,
so
maybe
that
would
be
an
appropriate
check-in
for
you
to
go
to,
and
I
want
to
throw
that
out
there
for
you
guys
to
decide
and
then
also
just
if
we
need
to
make
a
stance
as
a
committee
and
come
up
with
that,
and
I
think
we
were
talking.
There's
not
rules
really
set
in
stone.
Yet
they
could
be
changing
over
the
next
few
months,
and
so,
as
far
as
the
actual
code
suggestions
go,
maybe
we
don't
have
anything
to
say
yet.
F
But
what
we
could
do
is
say
that
we
want
the
the
planning,
commission
and
council
to
consider
keeping
public
participation
or
public
education
at
the
forefront
of
this
implementation
process.
So
putting
it
out
there.
You
guys
can
make
motion,
have
discussion
and
do
what
you
need
to.
A
E
I
wanted
to
pick
up
on
something
that
jim
said.
E
It
is
old,
farm's
intent
to
invite
hawthorne
to
join
us,
we're
just
working
out
the
rules
of
the
road
and
as
soon
as
we
can
can
come
up
with
them,
you
know
we're
trying
them
now
as
soon
as
we
come
up
with
them,
we'll
be
inviting
our
other
neighbor
in
southeast
to
to
be
joining
us
for
our
brainstorming
sessions
on
the
wednesdays.