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00:00:00 Call to Order
00:01:34 221 State Street
00:13:30 192 State Street
00:17:07 257 Washington Street
00:29:10 105 Murray Street
00:34:22 303 Clinton Street
00:41:50 12 Wilson Street
00:44:30 105 Murray Street (Continued)
00:50:16 131 Chapin Street
C
B
E
G
A
Okay,
so
the
application
for
221
state
street
is
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
and
they
are
proposing
essentially
to
rehabilitate
the
northern
section
of
the
building.
The
future
use
of
that
of
that
interior
space
in
the
building
is
going
to
be
for
the
use
by
the
broome
county
arts,
council
and
they're
in
doing
a
few
things.
A
So
let
me
zoom
out
here
the
preferred
option
that
was
provided
as
I
sent
out
to
the
commission
yesterday.
Is
this
second
option
number
two
which
sort
of
allows
for
the
double
door:
entry
system?
That's
really
important
to
the
arts
council
for
moving
in
large
pieces,
as
well
as
accessibility
needs
and
also
sort
of
recreates.
This
garage
door,
opening
appearance
in
the
location
which
honestly
is
an
improvement
from
what's
existing
and,
I
think,
meets
the
the
character
defining
feature
requirements
for
this
for
this
site.
The
applicant.
G
A
Also
proposing
to
install
new
lighting
to
either
side
each
of
the
pilassers
to
either
side
of
the
primary
entrance
there
and
then
some
signage
vinyl
decals
that
will
be
applied
to
the
storefront
system
greg.
Can
you
provide
a
little
bit
of
information?
Is
the
awning
still
part
of
the
proposal
or
has
that
been
removed
and
has
there
been
any
updates
with
regard
to
the
lighting
fixtures.
H
As
far
as
the
light
fixtures
go,
we
haven't
made
a
final
selection,
but
I
think,
as
you
and
I
talked
when
we
met,
we
are
going
to
go
with
more
of
a
maybe
a
vertical
type,
sconce
fixture
that
wasn't
as
fragile,
potentially
and
a
little
tighter
to
the
wall,
something
a
little
bit
more
vertical.
That
would
go
on
either
side
of
that
opening.
On
that
limestone
pie,
laster.
A
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you
and
then
I'll
just
go
back
to
the
original
presentation.
Just
so
the
commission
has
an
idea
of
what
that
awning
would
look
like
installed.
Obviously,
the
the
the
entry
system.
There
is
not
the
one
that's
being
proposed.
Currently
I
spoke
with
the
applicant
and
and
greg
and
the
rest
of
his
team
sort
of
about.
You
know
the
my
thoughts
with
regard
to
the
awning
and
how
typically
like
an
awning
wouldn't
have
been
installed
in
this
location,
but
you
know
there
has.
A
H
It's
it's
not
going
to
be
detrimental
to
the
building
at
all,
and
I
think
he
already
touched
on
the
north
half
of
the
storefront
kind
of
kind
of
mimicking,
the
south
half,
which
was
approved
by
cod
back
in
was
it
2012.
Maybe
I
can't
remember
exactly,
but
so
we're
matching
that
exactly
actually
the
same
contractor
is
gonna
gonna.
Do
that
work?
So
that's
about
the
extent
of
it.
Unless
anybody
has
any
any
questions
for
us.
H
J
Hi
there
everybody
hello,
hi
hi,
so
we
we
are
proposing
the
awning
as
a
way
to
you
know,
show
that
that's
the
main
entrance
for
all
things:
bcac.
We
don't
have
control
over
the
whole
building,
because
there's
a
dim
on
the
on
the
south
side
and
the
alternative
signage
from
the
historical
pictures
was
like
a
neon
sign.
That
kind
of
stuck
out
from
the
from
the
brick
and-
and
that's
that's,
not
something
I
I
I
don't
think
it's
something
you
would
want
to
replicate
honestly.
J
D
D
J
H
H
H
H
B
H
K
E
G
L
H
B
J
A
Okay,
so
we've
got
stephanie
from
the
broome
county
planning
department
here,
and
this
is
an
application
for
192
state
streets.
The
commission
will
likely
remember
that
stephanie
presented
a
series
of
murals
last
summer
and
so
continuing
on.
There
is
a
proposed
mural
at
192
state
street
and
the
proposal
I'll
go
right
to
that
and
stephanie
correct
me.
If
I'm
pronouncing
the
artist's
name
incorrectly
here,
it's
margot
dots
or
that's
margot.
M
A
Dads,
okay
and
there's,
you
know
very
low
impact,
no
effect
determination
from
from
shippo
for
this
mural
for
192
or
excuse
me,
yeah
192
state
street,
a
sort
of
a
a
plain
existing
wall,
that's
highly
visible,
and
so
a
mural
in
this
location,
I
think,
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
Given
the
context
of
state
street
and
the
sort
of
artist
bro
work,
that's
been
going
on
and
also
a
lot
with.
The
current
streetscape
improvement
plans
there
and
so
I'll
go
right
to
the
proposal.
A
F
A
A
M
Yeah,
that's
not
included
with
the
mural
project,
but
I
could
definitely
talk
to
the
property
owners
and
the
artists
and
see
if
that's
something
that
they
can
work
on
later
on.
I
also
just
know
the
artist
mentioned
that
the
the
mural
might
not
come
all
the
way
to
the
ground,
just
because
cars
are
going
to
be
parked
there
and.
A
Okay,
257
washington
street
again,
it's
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
application
and
the
applicant
is
kevin.
Finley
he's
proposing
to
essentially
replace
some
doors
on
the
southern
facing
elevation
of
the
building,
with
commercial
doors
that
have
been
installed
in
other
locations.
You
know
a
similar
type
of
commercial
door
and
commercial
door
system.
That's
been
installed
along
other
places
along
the
building.
What
I
found
was
interesting
as
I
started
looking
into
this.
A
So
here's
our
historic
photo
right
sort
of
showing
the
building
as
it
would
have
been
in
the
early
to
mid
20th
century
right.
You
can
see
right
in
this
location
where
two
of
the
three
openings
are
currently
that
one
of
them
was
just
modified
and
extended
down,
and
then
another
was
entirely
is
a
basically
a
brand
new
cutting
because
we
have
one
opening
and
then
no
no
entry
again
showing
basically
a
window
opening
here,
but
again,
no
no
entry
to
the
building.
So
those
were
both
one
was
extended.
A
A
So
there's
our
our
entrances,
so
one
here
here
and
here
just
go
to
the
proposal
so
at
the
rear
entrance
the
applicant
has
stated
that
he
really
wants
to
bring
in
light
to
the
building.
I
think
that
makes
sense,
and
so
the
five
panel
door
here
would
be
replaced.
If
the
commission
leans
towards
replacement
there.
I
would
recommend
salvaging
that
door
or
in
some
way,
doors
like
that.
You
know-
are
a
little
difficult
to
come
by
these
days.
The
the
transom,
a
similar
configuration
would
be
installed
in
that
location.
N
I
don't
know
what
I
would
add,
but
the
the
one
where
it's
going
to
be
a
path,
a
window,
that
very
tall
thing
is
on
the
inside
of
the
building
you.
Actually
it
doesn't
lend
itself
to
a
door
anyway,
because
there's
actually
a
step
up
the
door
itself
that
you're
seeing
right
now
to
the
left
actually
is
on
elevation
of
a
landing.
N
G
N
N
D
N
N
B
D
B
Mine
is
just
a
question,
I
guess-
and
maybe
I
can
lean
on
our
architects
here.
So
the
the
doors
remind
me
of
a
of
a
storefront
with
a
two-panel
system.
I
don't
know
that's
what
it
is
right,
so
the
the
rest
of
the
building
has
like
the
grid
patterns
in
them.
I
didn't
know
if
there
was
a
door.
That
was
simply
would
let
the
light
in,
but
it
would
have
a
a
panel
system
to
it
like
the
windows-
and
I
don't
even
know
if
that's
appropriate,
but.
I
O
I
N
P
O
N
But
the
front
of
the
building
was
a
more
modern,
storefront
kind
of
mimics.
What
was
there
originally,
which
was,
I
believe,
a
glass
door,
but
none
of
these
doors
are
standard
size.
So
anything
you
would
do
to
try
to
be
a
little
bit
more
period.
Appropriate
would
be
an
economic
burden
and
I'm
trying
to
you
know
the
selection
with
the
grids
in
it
is
trying
to
kind
of
go
with
the
spirit
of
what
was
there.
N
Knowing
that
any
other
alternative
would
be
any
economic,
it
would
be
more
money
and
they're
expensive
enough
as
it
is
to
put
those
commercial
doors
in
there.
So
I
I'm
just
just
to
let
everybody
know
these
door.
Sizes
are
non-standard,
so
the
the
commercial
door
lends
it
to
that,
because
you
know
I
don't
want
to
frame
it
down.
I
want
it
to
fill
the
space
and
look
like
it.
N
N
N
Yeah
well
there's
an
aside
this
board
approved-
and
I
probably
shouldn't
bring
this
up,
but
in
our
renovation,
we're
gonna
be
replacing
all
the
windows
in
accordance
with
the
prior
approval
that,
as
you
can
see,
on
the
one
side
of
the
building
along
the
bottom
there's
new
on
which
would
be
the
basement.
The
lower
level
and
there's.
O
N
C
C
A
A
Actually
all
the
applications
for
the
rest
of
the
agenda
are
all
garages.
This
first,
one
at
105
murray,
is
a
105
murray
is
a
local
landmark,
and
so
for
this
one.
I
would
encourage
the
commission
to
think
about
this
application,
although
it
technically
is
a
determination
of
historical
significance
for
demolition.
A
The
the
real
question
is:
is
whether
or
not
it's
appropriate
so
sort
of
treat
it
as
if
it's
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
in
this
case
to
remove
the
garage
for
this
landmark
property.
It's
doing
a
determination
of
historical
significance
is
sort
of
a
moot
point,
because
it's
already
been
deemed
historical
right,
because
it's
part
of
this
landmark
property
and
going
through
it.
A
It's
obvious
that
the
garage
has
been
subject
to
significant
amount
of
deterioration
and
and
fire
damage,
and
so
you
know,
I
don't
think
it's
in
salvageable
at
this
point,
the
there
are
some
features
again.
You
know
like
these
windows
here.
That
probably
could
be
salvaged,
and
so
I
would
encourage
that
in
this
case.
A
A
P
I
B
B
A
B
C
B
D
D
A
I
P
O
Yeah,
so
the
property
is
actually
owned
by
the
bank.
We
are
a
preservation
company
maintaining
this,
so
they
wanted
this
to
be
demolished.
So
we
put
in
a
permit
application
for
demolishing
the
garage
and
they
say,
like
historical
significance-
has
to
be
determined,
and
so
here
we
are
at
this
not
really
sure
about
the
historical
significance
of
this,
and
I
would
highly
appreciate
whatever
insights
I
get
from
the
meeting.
O
B
D
E
C
B
G
D
C
C
F
That's
good,
dang.
Okay,
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
material
conflict
with
an
adopted
land
use
plan
or
zoning
regulations?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
a
change
in
the
use
of
intents
or
intensity
of
the
use
of
land?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
the
existing
compute
community?
No.
F
Will
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
effect
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walkway?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
cause
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities?
F
Public
private
or
water
supply,
public,
private
water,
waste,
water
treatment
utilities;
no
will
the
proposed
action,
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources?
No,
who
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
to
natural
resources.
Wetlands,
water
bodies,
groundwater,
air
quality,
flora
and
fauna?
No
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
damage
drainage
problems?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
could
create
a
hazard
to
environmental
resources
or
human
health?
D
D
The
commission's
determination
of
historic
significance
shall
be
based
on
the
following
considerations,
which
are
based
on
the
secretary
of
the
interior
standards
for
historic
preservation,
one
if
the
structure
is
an
outstanding
example
of
a
structure,
a
memorial
representative
of
its
error,
either
past
or
present
or
two.
If
the
structure
is
one
of
the
few
remaining
examples
of
a
past
architectural
style
or
combinations
of
styles
or
three,
if
the
structure
is
associated
with
a
historical
person
or
event
of
significance
to
the
city,
region,
state
or
nation,
finding
none,
I
make
a
motion
of
no
historical
significance.
A
Moving
on
to
12
wilson
street,
again
a
determination
of
historical
significance
for
demolition
of
the
garage
located
to
the
rear
of
the
primary
dwelling
at
wilson
street.
The
applicant
is
michael
abaton,
and
you
know
this
grudge.
I
don't
think
I
need
to
go
into
too
much
detail
here.
It's
sort
of
collapsing
in
on
itself,
and
I
didn't
find
that
it
met
any
of
the
criteria
for
determination
of
significance.
C
F
A
A
A
F
P
P
Absolutely,
and
does
anyone
that
know
of
any
project
that
needs
windows
like
this,
because
I
have
saved
older
doors,
some
of
these
bigger
doors
and
stuff
like
that
on
other
projects
in
other
states
that
we
work
on,
and
I
do
do
that
just
for
preservation
of
of
any
of
my
rebuilds.
If
we
purchase
another
house
that
may
need
that
we'd
like
to
keep
the
character
of
the
the
homes
in
the
neighborhoods
as
as
is
is,
if
I
can
so.
D
D
D
F
Okay,
make
it
just
a
little
bigger.
Will
the
proposed
action
create
a
material
conflict,
an
adopted
land
use
plan
or
zoning
regulations?
No,
will
a
proposed
action
result
in
a
char,
a
change
in
the
use
or
intensity
of
use
of
land?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
the
existing
community?
No.
F
Will
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
affect
existing
infrastructure
or
mass
transit
biking
or
walkway?
No.
Will
the
proposed
action
cause
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities?
F
No,
now
we
have
to
move
it
up
there.
We
go
okay,
where's,
my
renewable
energy.
Will
the
proposed
action
impact
existing
public
private
water
supplies,
public
private
wastewater
treatment
utilities?
No!
Will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources?
No
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
to
natural
resources,
wetlands,
water
bodies,
groundwater,
air
quality,
flora
and
fauna?
No
well.
The
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
drainage
problems.
F
D
Just
a
sec
criteria
for
the
determination
of
historical
significance
for
demolition.
The
commission's
determination
of
historic
significance
shall
be
based
on
the
following
considerations,
which
are
based
on
the
under
secretary
of
the
interior
secretary
of
the
interior
standards
for
historic
preservation.
A
Okay,
can
everybody?
Yes?
Okay?
Everybody
can
hear
me
so
the
application
here
again
is
131
chapin
street
determination
of
historical
significance
for
demolition
of
an
existing
garage.
Again,
I
didn't
really
find
any
significance
for
the
5
bay
garage
here.
We've
known
date
of
construction
of
1929.,
the
office
of
building
and
code
enforcement
has
determined
that
the
structure
is
unsafe
as
well.
P
It's
next
to
to
a
very
big
building.
That's
got
probably
16
20
units
in
it,
but
now
there's
only
a
two
family
for
all
those
five
cars
garage
and
it's
I
can.
I
can't
even
open
up
the
doors
on
there
and
there's.
It's
just
totally
collapsed
on
itself,
and
the
city
definitely
did
give
me
a
notice
to
to
take
care
of
and
rectify
it.
So
that's
why
I'm
before
you
people
at
the
board
here
and
see
what
you
can
do.
P
C
G
D
D
F
Okay,
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
material
conflict
with
an
adopted
land
use
plan
or
zoning
regulation?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
a
change
in
the
use
or
intensity
of
use
of
land?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
the
existing
community?
No.
Will
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
affect
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walkway?
F
No,
will
the
proposed
action
cause
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
impact
existing
public
private
water
supplies,
public
private
waste
water
treatment
utilities?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
to
natural
resources?
Example:
wetlands,
water
bodies,
ground
water,
air
quality,
flora
and
fauna?
F
K
G
L
L
D
D
G
F
I
do
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
material
conflict
with
an
adopted
land
use
plan
or
zoning
regulations?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
a
change
in
the
use
or
intensity
of
use
of
land?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
the
existing
community?
No,
will
a
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area.
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
affect
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walk
walkway?
F
No,
will
a
proposed
action
cause
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
impact
existing
public
private
water
supplies,
public
private
wastewater
treatment
utilities?
No?
Will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources?
No
can't
read
the
next
one.
F
F
Yep,
okay:
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
adverse
change
to
natural
resources,
wetlands,
water
bodies,
ground
water,
air
quality,
flora
and
fauna?
No
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion
flooding,
drainage
problems?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
hazard
to
environmental
resources
or
human
health?
No,
therefore,
I
make
a
motion
to
declare
a
negative
declaration.
D
F
D
B
I
A
C
C
L
D
D
C
D
While
he's
checking,
if
anybody
is
free
on
the
14th
of
june
flag
day
I'll,
be
lecturing
for
deposit
historical
society
on
dewitt
clinton
and
the
erie
canal,
and
on
june
15th,
I
will
be
doing
a
presentation
on
the
kilmer
family
for
the
bottle
collectors
club
in
cortland
new
york.
Oh
yeah,
both
are
free
both
start.
I
believe
it's
seven
o'clock.