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From YouTube: 2022.06.13 Planning Commission
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00:00:00 Call to Order
00:06:10 195 State Street
00:15:30 350 Main Street
00:40:20 15 Seminary Ave.
01:00:00 197 Main Street
01:14:45 110 Fairview Ave, 14-18
B
Hello:
everyone
welcome
to
the
june
meeting
at
the
city
of
binghamton
planning.
Commission.
My
name
is
nick
corcoran,
I'm
currently
the
chairman
of
this
commission,
which
is
comprised
of
local
community
members,
tasked
with
reviewing
site
plans
and
special
use
permits
for
consistency
with
the
standards
and
criteria
set
forth
in
the
city
of
binghamton
code.
C
B
A
B
B
Oh
actually,
this
is
a
probably
a
good
time
to
point
out
that
this
meeting
is
being
conducted
in
accordance
with
chapter
one
of
the
laws
of
2022,
which
in
part
authorizes
this
public
body
to
meet
and
take
take
such
action
authorized
by
law
without
permitting
in
public
in
person,
access
to
meetings
and
authorize.
Such
meetings
to
be
held
remotely
by
conference
call
or
similar
service,
provided
that
the
public
has
the
ability
to
view
or
listen
to
such
proceedings
and
as
such
meetings
are
recorded
and
later
transcribed.
B
B
I
think
we
have
to
stall
for
one
minute
until
5
20,
because
our
first
public
hearing
is
listed
to
start
at
5
20.
tito.
Just
out
of
curiosity,
since
we
got
a
minute,
the
110
fairview
act
or
fairview
ave
project
was
put
on
here
straight
to
public
hearing
with
no
previous
meeting
for
seeker
is
that
how
come
we
didn't
have
the
first
meeting
on
that
one.
D
B
Perfect
well,
that'll
lead
us
right
into
public
hearings
and
final
deliberations
on
our
agenda.
All
right
so
in
this
portion
of
our
meeting
we'll
be
holding
open
public
hearings
to
obtain
public
opinion
in
regard
to
specific
projects.
Up
for
review,
applicants
will
be
asked
to
come
to
the
microphone
and
make
a
brief
presentation
describing
their
project
for
most
projects.
This
is
the
second
time
where
we
are
reviewing
your
information,
so
it
would
be
very
helpful
if
you
could.
B
Please
give
us
a
brief
overview
of
your
project,
to
remind
us
what
you're,
planning
and
then
clearly
identify
any
changes
that
have
been
made
since
the
last
time
we
saw
you
and
the
applicant
is
done
presenting
and
any
clarifications
have
been
reviewed.
We
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
allow
members
of
the
community
to
speak
about
the
applicant's
proposal
after
the
commission
is
heard
from
all
community
members
interested
in
speaking
tonight.
The
public
hearing
will
be
closed
and
the
commission
will
deliberate
to
all
of
our
applicants
when
your
project
name
is
called.
B
Please
come
to
the
microphone
and
start
off
by
giving
your
name
and
address
of
any
members
of
the
applicant's
team,
that's
planning
to
speak
and
to
anyone
from
the
community
that
will
be
calling
in
or
speaking
tonight
in
regard
to
a
project.
Please
also
start
off
by
stating
your
name
and
address
for
our
records
all
right,
so
tonight's
first
public
hearing
is
for
the
applicant
s2
properties
llc.
The
other
might
forgot
about
my
zoom.
B
E
B
D
F
Absolutely
so
no
changes
since
the
last
time
we
spoke
here,
but
the
plan
is
to
take
a
formal,
formerly
246,
washington
street,
the
bob
crow
auto
and
converting
it
into
an
arcade
that
you
know,
I
think
you
know,
should
jive
very
nicely
with
the
arts
district
here
you
know,
but
it's
a
the
project
you
know
should
should
hopefully
complement
that
area
pretty
well.
So.
B
F
Sure
if
it's
helpful
to
email
it
again,
I'd
be
happy
to
do
so
as
well,
but
yeah
as
far
as
like
the
interior.
You
know
we're
still
pretty
much
fairly
fairly
the
same
here
and
then
the
exterior.
I
believe
that
would
be
the
only
addition
would
be
the
the
bike
rack,
which
I
think
we
were
looking
at,
potentially
putting
on
both
state
and
washington
since
we'll
have
nice
front
edge
on
on
both
sides.
There.
A
B
B
D
H
J
Well,
the
problem
is
you
haven't
identified
yourself,
you
haven't
identified
who's
out
there
and
I
didn't
know
whether
or
not
I
could
talk
to
you.
I'm
not
commenting
on
this
project.
I
raised
my
hand
before,
and
I
wasn't
sure
if
I
was
connected
I'll
gladly
on
raise
my
hand
until
such
time
as
you
discuss
the
problem,
the
project
on
clapham
street
all
right
and
e
street.
C
B
B
L
B
F
B
B
B
B
B
M
I
think
there's
really
no
changes
from
last
time,
just
maybe
a
few
further
clarifications
that
were
asked
for
during
the
meeting.
So
bertone
is
a
a
tenant
of
350
main
street,
which
is
owned
by
oh
gosh,
pacemaker
steel.
So
it's
an
existing
commercial
space,
one
story
and
what
he
is
proposing
to
do
is
partial
use
as
a
convenience
store,
partial
use
as
a
restaurant.
M
So,
basically
just
dividing
the
existing
building
in
half
all
interior
alterations,
no
proposed
exterior
alterations
other
than
the
fact
that
he
is
considering
adding
bicycle
parking
and
a
landscaped
area.
You
know
right
now
there
is
a
lot
of
you
know.
The
the
site
is
fully
impervious
surface,
so
he
is
looking.
That
is
something
that
we
discussed
with
you
guys
and
with
tito.
That
would
be
a
nice
addition
to
the
area.
M
So
that
is
something
that
he
is
looking
into,
but
he
does
need
a
special
use
permit
for
the
convenience
store
that
he's
looking
to
operate.
There
are
no
parking
requirements
in
the
zoning
code
for
operation
of
a
convenience
store,
but
it
was
asked
if
he
is
allowed
to
use
the
adjacent
law.
That's
immediately
to
the
west,
I
don't
have
anything
in
writing,
but
I
know
that
he
has
confirmed
with
the
owners
pacemaker
steel
that
that
lot
is
fully
open
to
him
for
anything
for
people
to
park
for
deliveries.
M
So
I
think
that
was
a
question
that
had
come
up
and
then
also
the
fact
that
that
is
where
his
trash
storage
is.
It
was
confirmed
that
that
is
the
location
of
his
dumpster,
so
we've
indicated
that
on
the
site
plan.
Now
and
again
I
don't
have
anything
in
writing,
but
that
is
fully
part
of
his
agreement
with
pacemaker
steel
as
the
tenant
there.
B
M
M
M
As
I
mentioned,
bertone
is
a
tenant
here.
He
is
not
the
owner
of
this
property,
he's
just
someone
that
rents
and
is
looking
to
operate
his
two
small
businesses
there,
and
then
I
guess.
I
would
also
point
to
the
fact
that,
for
the
use
that
we're
coming
to
you
guys
for
permission
for
for
the
convenience
store,
has
no
zoning
code
parking
requirements.
M
So
I
don't
know.
I
guess
those
are
my
only
sort
of
reactionary
comments,
because
I
totally
understand
what
was
contained
in
those
documents
that
were
sent
over
to
us.
You
know
about
the
curb
cut
being
longer
than
is
typically
allowed
and
the
fact
that
you
do
have
the
parking
that
requires
you
to
back
out
over
the
public
right-of-way.
A
D
D
They
said
there
was
no
a
significant
county-wide
impact,
but,
as
nick
pointed
out,
they
did
have
concerns
about
the
parking
arrangement
and
I'd
just
like
to
point
out
that,
while
the
applicant
is
the
tenant-
and
they
probably
don't
have-
I
mean
they
definitely
don't-
have
the
authorization
to
to
build
new
curb.
If
the
planning
commission
was
concerned
about
it,
it
could
be
that
could
be
narrowed
with
something
sort
of
more
temporary.
Like
a
planter,
that's
like
the
type
that's
being
proposed
on
the
east
side
of
the
lot
there
there.
D
K
D
D
E
M
L
Nick,
may
I
ask
you
this,
I
don't
know
if
you
can
look
up
our
records
a
bit.
You
can't
right
now,
but
I
thought
we
had
asked
for
that
last
time.
I
thought
that
that
was
kind
of
a
contingency
of
ours
that
we
were
concerned
about
that
because
transference
of
ownership
etc,
and
that
that
was
kind
of
something
we
wanted
going
forward.
Am
I
mistaken.
B
I
don't
remember
if
we
asked
for
anything
formal.
We
just
wanted
to
know
that
that
was
going
to
be
enough,
an
option
and
that
we
were.
I
was
kind
of
hoping
that
we
would
see
a
revised
site
plan
that
showed
four
or
five
parking
spaces
there
and
none
in
front
of
the
building,
because
I
think
that
would
solve
all
of
the
concerns,
because
that
would
limit
it
to
one
in
and
out
spot.
B
B
Yeah,
so
it
would
make
it
so
all
of
those
parking
spaces
along
the
front
were
no
longer
needed
or
are
going
to
be
used.
I
like
the
idea
of
putting
in
some
planters
along
the
edge
of
the
sidewalk.
You
don't
have
to
remove
any
asphalt,
just
put
in
some
planters
to
block
access
to
the
parking
spaces
that
are
right
in
front
of
the
building,
so
that
people
aren't
backing
out
over.
The
sidewalk
seems
like
we
kind
of
have
the
opportunity
to
fix
a
problem.
K
Temperatures
are
definitely
an
option
and
there's
something
you
can
make
it's
a
condition.
The
only
thing
you
would
have
to
do
is
if
they
can't
be
higher
than
three
feet.
I
believe
so
that
you're
not
creating
another
obstruction
where
you're
creating
a
problem
where
people
backing
up
or
their
views,
obstructed.
K
E
Brian,
may
I
ask
a
a
technical
procedural
question
sure
could
we
is?
Does
the
planning
commission
also
have
the
ability
to
table
a
final
vote
after
tonight's
public
hearing,
pending
the
submission
of
the
updated
site
plan
that
nick
referenced
and
the
letter
from
the
landlord
about
the
dumpster
extra
parking
areas
that
kelly
referenced?
E
K
D
A
B
You
right:
well,
let's
do
this,
let's
open
the
public
hearing
and
see
if
there's
anybody
here
to
speak
about
the
project
and
then
we'll
we'll
revisit
this
in
a
minute
all
right.
So
this
is
the
public
hearing
for
the
applicant
bertheny
permission.
Project
address
is
350
main
street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
to
establish
a
convenience
store
in
an
existing
commercial
space
in
the
c1
service
commercial
district.
C
B
B
I
guess
we're
not
eliminating
the
parking
in
front
of
the
building
or
the
asphalt
we're
just
blocking
the
parking
in
front
of
the
building
and
forcing
anybody
who's
coming
to
the
site
they
would
park
in
the
lot.
That's
adjacent
where
the
dumpster
area
or
kind
of
in
front
of
the
dumpsters,
I
think
it's.
It
appears
to
be
wide
enough
and
I
think
the
curb
cut
extends
down
there,
that
you'd
be
able
to
pull
in
park
either
towards
the
building
or
towards
the
property
line.
B
It
appears
you'd
be
able
to
get
four
parking
spaces
in
there
and
then,
when
you
left,
you
would
pull
out
you,
wouldn't
you
wouldn't
be
backing
out
over
the
sidewalk
you'd,
actually
maneuver
your
car
and
pull
back
out
facing
kind
of
like
the
car
is
facing
right
now
in
the
street
view
that
tito's
got
up
your
car
would
pull
back
out
straight
out
onto
the
street
yeah.
I
mean
there's
already
two
curve
or
parking
stops
there,
showing
you've
got
at
least
two.
It
looks
like
you
could
fit
into
that.
B
And
so
you
can
see
right
now,
so
the
dot
commented
well.
I'm
sorry,
broome
county
commented
that
these
parking
spaces
in
front
of
the
building
don't
meet
the
current
binghamton
code,
because
people
who
are
parked
there
when
they
back
they
have
to
back
out
over
a
public
sidewalk
straight
onto
a
new
york
state
d.o.t
road,
which
is
not
ideal.
B
So
I'm
just
spitballing
here,
but
if
they
were
to
put
planters
up
in
front
along
the
edge
of
the
sidewalk
there,
it
would
block
people
from
being
able
to
park
in
those
spaces
in
front
of
the
building
and
then
open
up.
Where
tito's
got
it
shown
now
open
up
four
parking
spaces
there,
people
would
get
out
they'd
walk
over
to
their
walk
over
to
the
building
kyle.
Does
that
seem
like
something
you
guys
would
be
able
to
do,
or
is
that
going
to
be
a
major
problem
for
your
client?
I.
M
If
that's
what
was
required
yeah,
I
don't
know
again
he's
not
here
to
comment,
but
I
would
say
that
we
would
highly
encourage
him
to
accept
that
if
that
was
a
condition
of
getting
the
approval
today,
okay-
and
we
would
help
him
to
show
that
on
any
necessary
drawing
and
also
we
could
arrange
for
that
letter
that
you
guys
want
just
with
an
acknowledgement
from
pacemaker
steel
that
they
are
able
to
fully
access
and
use
that
west
lot.
That's
next
to.
C
O
K
B
All
right:
well,
let's
do
this
I'll
I'll
make
a
motion.
I
just
want
to
clarify.
So
we
we
talked
about
this
at
the
last
meeting
and
we
brought
up
the
issue
with
the
parking
I
think
I
had
requested
these.
You
take
a
look
at
it
see
if
there
was
anything
else
you
could
do
at
that
point,
I'm
not
sure
that
I
was
vehemently
against
it,
but
seeing
that
the
broome
county
from.
B
B
All
right,
so
this
was
a
type
2
action
under
seeker,
so
no
other
environmental
review
was
required.
We
made
that
motion
at
the
last
meeting,
so
I'll
make
a
motion
that
the
requirements
for
the
site
plan,
review
and
special
use
permit
have
been
met,
conditional
to
a
revised
site
plan
being
submitted.
B
A
D
So
so
nick,
I
don't
know
if
this
is
helpful,
but
if
you
all,
if
the
commission
is
even
though
there's
no
parking
requirement,
you
can
ask
because
there's
a
special
use
permit.
You
can
ask
for
things
above
and
beyond
the
code.
So,
if
you're
requiring
let's
say
three
spaces,
if
that's
an
official
condition
of
approval
coming
from
you,
then
they
will
have
to
be
striped.
D
B
M
B
B
M
B
B
M
P
P
Again,
we
bought
this
empty
lot
and
would
like
to
build
this
for
two
dwellings:
a
first
floor
and
a
second
floor
with
five
bedrooms
per
putting
in
the
the
parking
for
the
off
street
parking
for
the
vehicles
along
with
the
pervious
of
materials,
so
that
we're
not
adding
to
the
runoff
and
the
flooding
in
the
street
and
so
forth.
I
mean
I'm
gonna.
Let
kyle
take
care
of
this
because
he's
the
one
drawing
up
these
plans
with
my
just
over
signing
this
sake,
so
take
it
away.
P
M
Sure,
well,
I
think
that
was
like
a
good
introduction.
I
think
all
I
really
maybe
want
to
add
to
that
is
a
clarification
that
this
is
being
proposed
as
a
two
dwelling
unit
house
and
the
special
use
permit
that
we're
seeking
is
that
paul
is
seeking
is
for
the
fact
that
each
unit
will
have
five
bedrooms.
M
Amicus
llc
does
not
rent
by
the
room.
Each
five-bedroom
unit
will
be
assigned
to
a
single
lease.
The
owner
intends
to
rent
the
units
to
families
or
groups
of
individuals
who
operate
as
the
equivalent
this
development,
it's
our
understanding
that
it
is
in
an
area
that
is
targeted
for
future
zoning
overlay
and
the
owner
definitely
intends
for
the
design
of
the
project
to
blend.
Well
with
the
surrounding
character
of
the
neighborhood.
M
Big
asphalt,
parking,
lot,
heat
island
type
situation,
so
yeah,
you
know
we've
provided
you
with
a
site
plan
and
we've
also
provided
you
with
a
very
early
preliminary
look
at
what
the
configuration
of
those
two
units
would
be.
I'm
not
sure,
there's
really
anything
else.
I'd
want
to
add
to
that
all
right.
B
E
Yeah
nick
this
is
chris
yep,
and
this
question
may
be
directed
more
to
tito
and
brian.
The
applicant's
now
stressing
this
is
gonna,
be
these
two
units
are
gonna,
be
rented
to
families
or
functional
equivalents
of
families.
I
remember
when
they
were
before
us
last
month.
There
was
some
question
about
if
college
students
might
be
coming
to
this
under
these
units.
What
what
is
the
enforcement
mechanism
that
the
city
has
in
case
just
by
chance
some
college
kids
sneak
into
this
building,
as
opposed
to
functional
family
units.
M
Well,
we
didn't
say
that
college
students
won't
be
renting
this,
we
just
said
it'll
be
groups
of
individuals
that
operate
as
a
unit
or
families
I
mean
paul
can
cast
arrent
this
to
whomever
is
interested
in
renting
the
property,
maybe
I'll.
Let
him
speak
more.
To
that
I
mean
this
is
kind
of
the
discussion
that
I
think
stemmed
from
well.
K
I
think
I'm
gonna
answer
the
question
from
from
the
member
first
right
now.
The
mechanism
is
that
the
current
zoning
code
allows
a
group
of
individuals,
whether
they're
students
or
not,
to
reside
in
a
house
as
long
as
they
meet
the
either
they
either
are
an
actual
family
or
they're
the
functional
equivalent
of
the
family.
K
My
experience
is
that
either
way
we
make
a
decision
either
the
person
who
complains
or
the
students
will
bring
in
an
action
asking
it
to
be
heard
by
the
zoning
board
to
determine
that
how
to
make
a
determination
and
then
there
could
be
litigation
after
that,
the
zoning
board
has
to
consider
whether
they
do
or
not.
They
do
not
meet
the
definition
of
what
the
evidence
was
and
they
reviewed
the
zoning
officers
to
serve
termination.
K
P
G
K
Some
talk,
and
I
believe
there
is
some
support
with
city
council,
of
adopting
a
definition
of
the
functional
family
that
comes
out
of
ithaca,
which
does
have
some
presumptions
built
into
it
about.
If
you
are
in
roles
in
the
university,
whether
you
can
meet
that
definition,
which
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
difficult
and,
of
course,
each
group
that
moves
into
your
units
will
be
subject
to
the
new
either
this
law,
all
the
turning
books
or
there's
a
new
law.
K
B
C
B
B
B
D
K
E
L
E
P
D
A
D
Q
H
A
D
This
creates
health
concerns
because
it
encourages
the
proliferation
of
rodent
and
pest
populations.
Three
students
at
adjoining
and
nearby
properties
have
been
using
the
lot
for
parking.
These
cars
will
now
be
added
to
the
fight
for
parking
spaces,
which
means
on
the
street.
Four
more
students
means
more
noise
and
more
parties
and
more
litter.
D
This
is
the
neighborhood
where
I
grew
up.
I
am
the
third
generation
of
my
family
to
own
and
live
in
my
chapin
street
home.
This
area
was
not
made
for
dense
populations
and
dormitories.
Long-Term
residents
deserve
to
live
in
peace
and
quiet
and
healthy
environments.
Our
concerns
need
to
be
addressed
and
treated
with
respect
by
city
government.
B
All
right
we'll
see
no
other
phone
calls
and
nobody
else
with
their
hand
raised.
We
will
close
the
public
hearing
for
this
project
all
right,
so
there
I
guess
in
general
we
normally
do
anybody
who
asks
a
question.
During
the
public
hearing
portion,
we
usually
try
and
address
the
or
have
the
applicant
answer,
the
questions.
So
are
there
any
bedrooms
or
any
rooms
that
are
shown
on
the
plans
that
could
be
used
as
a
bedroom?
B
R
P
A
P
We
let
we
let
one
kid
park
over
there,
because
he
does
some
type
of
selling
products
and
he
has
a
trailer,
and
I
said
you
could
leave
it
here
for
now:
here's
a
trailer,
that's
a
side,
job
that
he's
doing
while
he's
going
to
school
and
he
had
no
place
to
park
a
trailer.
I
said:
I've
got
an
empty
lot
go
ahead.
You
can
continue
to
park
it
until
I
go
ahead
and
have
it.
So
that's
the
only
thing,
that's
being
parked
on
my
lot.
Believe
me.
P
Then
you've
got
the
long
driveway
for
snow
storms.
If
anybody
else
needs
to
park
in
there,
you
could
put
back
them
up
back
to
back,
but
you
see
how
long
that
driveway
is
it's
as
long
as
the
lot.
The
parking
is
clearly
in
the
back
and
you've
got
that
long
run
from
the
street
up
to
put
them
nose
to
nose
and
during
a
snowstorm
of
course,.
C
E
Nick
this
is
chris
for
the
applicant
remind
me,
because
my
memory
from
last
month
is
already
faded
a
bit.
What
is
the
trash
situation?
Is
there
gonna
be
some
sort
of
a
dumpster
at
the
on
sites
or
what's
be
happening
with
trash,
but
since
that
was
also
brought
up
by
in
the
public
in
the
in
the
in
the
letter
that
was
read
at
the
public
hearing.
P
B
B
L
B
On
to
our
next
public
hearing
and
final
deliberation,
so
this
is
for
the
applicant
deoki
tikka
singh.
The
project
address
is
197
main
street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
for
a
six
sleeping
unit
congregate
living
facility
on
the
ground
floor
of
an
existing
building
in
the
c1
service,
commercial
district.
R
A
R
R
D
C
B
R
R
C
D
D
B
Brian,
I'm
I'm
sure
I
know
the
answer
to
this
already,
but
if
have
we
ever
done
anything
or
are
we
allowed
to
do
anything
where
we
say
we're?
Okay,
with
the
this
owner
continuing
to
do
what
he
purchased
the
building,
how
it
was
sold
to
him?
Basically,
but
if
it
gets
sold
again
in
the
future,
any
approvals
are
void
and
the
next
person
has
to
come
in
for
a
site
plan
review
review,
so
we
might
be
able
to
clean
this
up.
I.
K
K
It
can't
be
contingent
upon
their
ownership
and
actually
that's
the
real
effect
you
if
you
were
to
prove
this,
I
mean
after
the
public
speaks.
If
you
were
to
prove
this,
it
could
only
be
used
for
this
purpose
if
it
had
any
other
alterations
or
changes
that
would
have
to
come
back
to
you
or
the
zoning
board,
or
it
may.
A
K
All
right
and
nick,
I
think
they
answered
your
question.
I
don't
think
we
don't
have
something
that
limits
the
number
of
units
you
can
have
in
a
particular
space.
You
simply
have
to
meet
the
state
requirements
of
how
many
square
feet
to
meet
a
bedroom.
Okay,
which
is
not
that
big,
as
I'm
sure
you're
aware,
yeah
I'll.
K
B
All
right:
well,
let's,
let's
open
the
public
hearing
and
see
if
anybody
wants
to
talk
about
this
project
all
right.
So
this
is
the
public
hearing
for
the
applicant
deoki
tikka
singh.
The
project
address
is
197
main
street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
for
a
six
sleeping
unit
congregate
living
facility
on
the
ground
floor
of
an
existing
building
in
the
c1
service
commercial
district.
D
B
B
All
right
I'll
make
a
motion.
I'm
gonna
roll.
This
all
into
one
motion
I'll
make
a
motion
that
the
proposal
involves
the
reuse
of
an
existing
residential
building,
which
is
a
type
2
action,
and
that
no
further
environmental
review
is
required
and
that
the
requirements
for
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permits
have
been
met.
B
B
B
B
B
E
Actually,
nick
nick
this
is
chris.
Before
we
start,
I
had
a
conversation
with
brian
earlier
this
afternoon.
I
actually
live
within
a
five-minute
walk
of
this
proposed
site,
so
in
conversation
with
brian
I'm
going
to
recuse
myself
from
both
discussion
of
this
and
the
eventual
votes,
because
I
live
so
close,
I
might
not
be
seen
as
impartial.
T
Thank
you.
Sarah.
As
you'll
see,
the
new
building
is
located
under
northern
portion
of
the
site
and,
as
sarah
said,
it's
a
two
three
story.
Building
on
the
eastern
side,
it
is
a
two-story
elevation
and
on
the
south
side
facing
the
remainder
of
the
campus,
is
a
three-stories
facility
to
take
advantage
of
the
grade
change
there
and
to
utilize
the
building
as
a
retaining
wall.
There
we
propose
a
upper
parking
lot
off
of
located
off
of
east
street
25
spaces.
S
T
S
S
D
S
G
O
G
Mean
that's!
That's
basically
what
we've
done
in
the
community
for
over
50
years
now
we
provide
substance,
use
treatment
for
those
that
are
struggling
with
addiction,
and
it
would
just
be
a
great
addition
to
our
our
campus
if
we
were
able
to
locate
the
administrative
and
stabilization
building
all
on
the
same
property
that
we
currently
occupy.
S
Okay,
I
think
that's
pretty
much
it.
We
obviously
have
agreed
to
all
the
issues
that
the
staff
has
recommended.
I
did
note
on
the
239
comments.
There
were
some
corrections
to
the
full
eaf
which
we
will
meet.
Some
of
them
are
a
mystery
to
me,
but
we
certainly
will
correct
any
errors
that
are
perceived
by
the
county
and
I
think
those
are
the
only
corrections
or
modifications
the
county
did
not
identify
any
significant
county-wide
impacts.
B
B
And
it
seemed,
I
know
it's
a
tough
question
because
you
never
know
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
future,
but
in
general,
when
we're
reviewing
site
plans,
we
have
to
take
into
account
the
total
build
out,
and
I
know
for
me,
as
you
know,
the
projects
have
come
in.
They
were
smaller.
Just
like
this
one
is
a
smaller
little
sub
project
of
a
larger
campus
and
when
it's
taken
as
just
a
little
smaller
project,
it
doesn't
seem
like
that
big
of
a
deal.
B
S
S
That
being
said,
obviously
there
is
a
cumulative
review,
and
I
understand
your
your
concern
about
that.
In
some
ways
it
supports
the
mission
of
the
organization
by
trying
to
centralize
services
to
accommodate
the
clients
who,
who
you
know,
do
not
have
transportation
generally
speaking
and
to
provide
all
those
services
in
the
central
location
makes
sense.
B
And
then
I
guess
my
my
one
other
question
so
the
location
of
this
new
building,
it's
going
on
a
portion
of
the
properties
where
it's
heavily
wooded.
It
still
feels
residential.
I
understand
the
neighbors
complaints
about
how
this
is
going
to
completely
transform
that
section
of
the
road
and
and
their
views.
Looking
at
the
grading
plan
that
was
included
on
the
landscape
plan,
you're
pretty
much
going
to
cut
everything
you'll
have
to
cut
everything
down
in
order
to
get
that
parking
lot
in
there
re-graded.
B
Of
the
sites
that
all
still
feels
very
residential,
but
that
front
corner
where
sorry,
I
forget
the
streets
where
merrick
and
fairview
at
that
corner,
where
the
existing
parking
lot
is
and
the
building
that's
coming
down,
so
that
that
has
a
completely
different
character
versus
that
back
corner.
Where
the
where
all
the
vegetation
is.
Was
there
any
thought
of
constructing
the
new
building
there,
as
opposed
to
where
you've
got
it
shown
on
the
plants.
A
G
S
A
U
B
B
O
Okay,
this
is
joe
just
building
on
your
question
a
bit
from
a
different
angle.
Is
there
a
feasibility,
a
study
that
would
show
there's
a
long
term
demand
for
this
type
of
service,
or
if
this
has
a
certain
type
of
clients
that
it's
serving
do
we
project
those
people
in
need
will
increase
over
time
or
decrease?
Sometimes
we
build
facilities
that,
after
a
while,
are
over
built
because
the
demand
has
gone
down.
O
In
general,
building
on
what
nick
was
saying
about
that,
originally
there
was
one
facility,
and
after
a
few
years
another
one
was
asked
for
and
we're
looking
now
at
another
rebuild
for
an
additional
build.
Does
that
follow
along
the
general
public
demand
for
the
type
of
clients
this
facility
serves
and,
for
example,
are
the
the
client
base?
Is
the
client
base
increasing
over
time,
or
will
we
be
building
something
that
they're
over
there's
other
competitive
services
that
provide
this
type
of
service,
and
will
we
be
over
building.
U
I
believe
that
was
in
2006
and
then
in
2016
is
when
we
opened
up
the
new
women's
house
on
the
current
site.
So
there's
there's
there's
been
some
gaps
in
in
construction
and
I
would
say
that
if,
if
we
were
able
to
do
this
project
this
would
this
would
be
the
last
project
on
this
site.
We
wouldn't
need
to
expand.
U
And-
and
these
aren't,
these
aren't
new
beds-
these
are
existing
beds,
so
we're
not
adding
20
new
beds
to
our
to
our
agency
in
into
this
site,
while
we
would
be
to
the
site,
but
we
would
get
the
building
that's
on
court
street.
That
would
be
no
longer
used
for
this
level
of
care,
and
that
would
be
then
up
on
this
site.
So
it
would
just
be
20
beds
that
we
already
have.
B
B
B
Although
they're
perfectly
valid
comments
or
questions,
they
don't
really
apply
to
the
our
job
to
review
the
site
plan,
so
we'll
compile
or
I'll
compile
any
questions
that
are
asked
and
then
once
we
close
the
public
hearing,
we
will
then
ask
all
of
those
questions
and
give
the
applicants
the
ability
to
answer
them,
but
unfortunately,
a
public
hearing
is
not
a
back
and
forth
between
the
applicant
and
members
of
the
community.
So
all
right
so
with
that
I'm
going
to
open
the
public
hearing.
B
So
this
is
the
public
hearing
for
the
applicant
fairview
recovery
services
project
address
is
110,
fairview,
ave
and
14-18
clapham
street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
for
the
construction
of
a
20-bed
social
services,
building
on
an
existing
social
services
campus
in
the
r-3
residential
multi-unit
dwelling
district.
B
B
D
D
A
J
J
On
the
other
side,
all
right,
a
lot
of
money
was
put
in
there
and
if
you
proceed
on
up
to
the
middle
of
the
street,
that's
where
they're
looking
to
put
this
building,
it's
not
all
forest
where
the
building
it
will
be
located
is
forested
area,
but
the
the
t
parking
lot
most
of
that
area
is
in
fact
open
grass
area
there's
one
tree
on
it
towards
the
merrick
side.
There
is
a
some
woods
you
know
and
everything
but
yeah.
I
don't
understand
this
map
right.
When
the
map
sent
to
me.
J
I
I
just
now
got
a
look
at
where
clapham
street
was.
I
thought.
Clapton
street
was,
on
the
opposite
end,
to
be
very
honest
with
you,
but
this
is
a
heavy
residential
area
and
I'm
convinced
that
the
building
of
this
project
will
have
an
impact
on
the
people.
Mainly
me,
my
wife
and
I
have
lived
in
binghamton.
J
This
past
2022
year
was
our
50th
year.
In
that
house
we
paid
taxes,
we've
done
everything
right,
we've
raised
two
children
all
right,
and
this
is
only
going
to
compromise
the
value
of
our
property.
I'm
convinced-
and
I
don't
believe,
that's
right-
we
we
believe
in
helping
people.
Believe
me
we
do,
but
we
think
there's
other
opportunities
which
would
be
a
better
help
for
people.
You
know
needing
rehabilitation
that
they
service,
for
example,
there's
plenty
of
space
available
at
the
down
the
street
up
the
road
at
the
the
health
center.
J
J
I
I
I
think
that
you
have
to
recognize
that,
and
it's
in
your
your
you
know,
ground
rules,
for
you
know,
development
that
and
I'll
tell
you
where
it
is.
It's
on
the
second
page
sent
to
me
by
tito.
You
know
he
sent
me
this
stuff.
Thank
you
for
sending
me
whatever
you
had
to
you
know
you
did
it.
I
really
appreciate
that
says:
will
the
proposal
promote
a
safe
environment
and
not
cause
substantial
injury
to
the
value
of
other
properties
in
the
surrounding
neighborhood
and
the
fact
that
matter
is
it
would.
N
J
J
That's
a
much
better
area
to
locate
that
building
in
my
opinion,
and
leave
the
area
that
that
that
you're
trying
to
make
changes
to.
Maybe
as
it
is,
you
know,
there's
houses
all
around
here.
I
encourage
everyone
on
the
planning
committee
to
take
a
walk.
Come
up
here
to
clapham
street.
Come
up
here
to
east
walk
around
the
area.
J
They've
made
no
comments
on
the
other
areas.
It's
not
on
your
your
pictures.
You
need
to
see
what's
what's
in
this
area,
the
housing
development.
That's
in
this
area,
it's
going
to
be
impacted
by
this,
and
I
think
it's
only
fair
that
those
people
are
are
especially
ones
like
us
who
have
lived
here
for
50
years.
J
You
know
are,
are
considered
for
this
proposal
that
building
their
planning
proposes
literally
going
to
be
right
across
my
driveway
right
across
the
driveway
I
mean
I,
I
don't
understand
why
they're
they're,
they're,
certainly
a
charitable
organization.
They
do
a
good
job,
but
it's
not
uncommon
to
have
police.
J
You
know
visit
some
of
the
buildings
and
then
they
have
to
admit
that
that's
that's
occurred.
Who's
going
to
buy
my
property
who's
going
to
buy
my
property,
we're
old,
we're
in
our
late
70s
who's
going
to
buy
my
property
unless
the
value
of
it
just
goes
on
to
nothing
we're
looking
to
to
move.
You
know
and
everything
right
to
be
around
my
daughter.
I
can't
afford
a
devaluing
on
my
property.
J
B
B
Q
Actually,
I
do
I
was
living
in
the
area
at
the
time
when
the
facility
first
went
into
place-
and
I
remember
the
crime
rate
went
up.
222
percent
when
it
was
initially
put
in
there
were
burglaries
up
and
down
fairview.
Now
that
was
a
while
back.
Obviously,
however,
crime
rate
in
the
city
of
binghamton
has
gone
up
and
I
am
concerned.
Q
I
live
in
the
senior
complex
up
at
the
top
of
the
hill
and
and
am
disabled
and
feel
very
vulnerable
to
more
social
service
clientele
coming
into
the
area.
It
is
not
unheard
of
to
have
crime
in
this
area,
but
I
don't
think
we
need
to
compound
the
situation
by
bringing
it
into
a
more
we're
on
the
fringe
of
a
rural,
suburban
area,
not
just
resident.
I
know
it's
categorized
as
residential,
but
it
within
five
minutes
of
here
we
have
cows,
so
this
is
definitely
on
the
fringe
of
rural.
Q
D
D
V
V
C
V
A
B
B
Q
D
A
I
Up,
yes,
I
don't
know
how
to
read
these
maps
that
are
up
on
the
computer,
but
my
concern
is
my
property
meets
the
18
claphams
and,
looking
at
this
I
don't
understand.
It
looks
like
that
driveway
into
the
parking
space
it's
going
to
be
very
close
to
my
property
and
what
about
the
electric
wires
that
are
over
our
heads
here?
I
don't
understand
why
it's
so
close
to
my
property.
I
A
K
N
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,
I
have
sue
hutchings.
I
live
on.
64
e
street
I've
been
here
35
years,
a
lifelong
resident,
binghamton
and
business
owner
as
well
as
a
landlord.
The
reason
we
moved
up
here
is
because
it
was
a
little
more
residential
and
yes,
these
services
are
needed.
You
know
we
have
family
members
to
have
addiction
issues,
definitely
needed
service,
we're
just
moving
too
close
into
the
neighborhood.
That's
all
if
you
can
keep
it
closer
to
fairview
or
there's
vacant
property
up
above
on
fairview
avenue.
A
B
All
right,
I
don't
think
I'm
gonna
close
the
public
hearing
officially,
I
think,
there's
enough
questions
that
have
come
up
that
it's
looking
like.
We
probably
are
going
to
want
to
table
this
until
the
next
meeting,
at
least
so
I'm
going
to
leave
the
public
hearing
open
for
now.
Unless
that
changes
all
right,
but
we're
going
to
move
on
from
the.
K
A
K
B
A
B
U
Yeah,
those
those
those
residents
are
accompanied
by
a
staff
person.
This
this
level
of
care
does
not
allow
the
person
to
leave
the
facility,
the
agency,
the
property
by
themselves,
if
they
do
they're
in
violation
of
our
our
rules.
So,
whenever
you're
seeing
somebody
walking
around
in
in
a
small
group,
there
is
a
staff
person,
that's
present
with
them.
A
B
U
I
mean
it
is
going
to
be
the
addition
of
a
new
building.
I
don't
know
how
much
it's
going
to
change
the
overall
aspect
of
what
we
do
or
the
the
current
environment
the
the
level
of
care
that's
coming
in.
There
is
also
they
aren't
able
to
leave
the
leave
the
facility
they're,
escorted
in
and
out
by
staff.
D
D
When
we
took
a
closer
look
at
it,
14
through
18
clapham
street
were
never
part
of
a
previously
approved
site
plan
that
we
could
find
where
that
social
services
use
was
applied
to
those
lots.
So,
basically
those
lots
have
no
legal
use
at
the
moment
social
services
to
change
their
use
to
social
services.
D
A
B
Okay,
all
right
so
along
the
lines
of
the
change
in
character
of
the
neighborhood,
so
the
the
parking
lot.
The
proposed
parking
lot
that's
shown
on
here.
I
know
the
grading
of
this
site
based
on
what
was
shown
on
the
landscape
plan
is
going
to
be
pretty
tough,
but
it
certainly
doesn't
feel
like
there
was
any
any
sensitivity
to
the
residential
character
when
the
parking
lot
was
laid
out
on
here.
Is
there
any
chance
that
there's
any
way
to
revise
the
parking
lot
to
make
it
a
little
bit
less
institutional?
B
Looking
make
it
somehow
fit
a
little
bit
better
with
a
residential
character
of
the
neighborhood,
even
the
sighting
of
the
building
itself?
I'm
going
to
guess
and
say:
that's
also
based
on
the
grading,
making
it
work
with
the
grades,
but
it
doesn't
fit
with
the
character
of
a
residential
neighborhood.
It's
angled
to
the
street,
which
you
wouldn't
expect
to
see
a
residential
building
placed
like
that
on
the
site.
T
T
We
did
try
to
orient
the
building
in
relationship
to
the
adjacent
building
to
the
south
west
of
it
to
help
with
some
parking
and
also
some
travel
of
food
food
into
the
building,
and
it
was
also
adjusted
that
way
to
fit
better
with
the
contouring
of
the
building
to
not
have
as
much
earth
work
moved.
So
it
was
a.
It
was
a
two-fold
thing
to
not
disrupt
as
much
land
as
possible,
but
also
to
also
make
it
the
most
cost
effective
way
to
place
this
building
into
the
property.
B
Okay,
just
trying
to
like
I
said,
I'm
I'm
conflicted
on
this
because
it
doesn't
feel
it
doesn't
feel
residential
in
nature
based
on
the
site
plan.
So
I'm
just
just
asking
questions
all
right,
so
I
think
we
already
covered
if
the
if
there's
any
other
locations,
I
think
specifically
the
corner
of
fairview
and
merrick.
Some
other
people
have
noted
that
in
their
comments.
B
U
I
U
B
K
B
I'm
just
thinking
if
this
gets
tabled
over
to
the
next
meeting
and
there
might
be
more
people
that
would
have
probably
that
similar
concern.
If
you
had
any
data
that
could
support
something
to
the
contrary,
would
be
interesting
to
hear
all
right.
So
the
question
did
get
asked
about
the
types
of
individuals
and
the
tenants
length
of
stay.
B
U
Yep,
certainly
it's
not
families,
it's
not
it's
single
adults,
18
and
older
men
and
women
would
be
in
the
same
building
a
comp.
You
know
accompanied
by
the
administrative
and
on-site
staffing
that
go
along
with
that
program,
so
no
families,
but
but
all
single
adults,
18
and
older
men
and
women.
Okay,.
U
A
U
C
U
You
know
typically
they're
indoors,
most
of
the
most
of
the
day,
but
you
know
some
fresh
air
here
and
there
we
do
on
court
street.
We
do
bring
them
out
into
the
to
the
back
parking
lot
and
we
also
have
a
an
adjoining
green
space
that
they
are
able
to
get
out
and
play
some
games.
If
that
was
a
concern
to
the
neighborhood,
I'm
sure
that
we
could
work
something
out
in
terms
of
can.
U
Just
just
to
reiterate,
you
know
anytime
any
that
level
of
care.
They
are
not
going
on
walks,
we're
not
walking
them
around
the
neighborhood
on
court
street.
It's
an
it's
a
more
intensive
level
of
care,
they're
coming
in
not
feeling
so
good,
so
they're
they're
being
monitored
by
nursing
staff,
medical
staff,
the
the
the
on-site
physician,
so
they're
they're.
If
they're
going
outside
it's
it's
extremely
brief
and
then
they're,
you
know
they're
back
inside.
So,
okay.
K
U
A
U
A
B
K
A
G
B
U
I
believe
she
was
the
the
crime
rate.
I
I
can't
tell
you
that,
does
the
police
do
the
police
come
to
our
building?
Yes,
they
do
it's.
It's
typically
to
remove
a
resident.
That's
that's
upset
with.
What's
going
on
they're,
not
happy
they're
causing
a
ruckus,
we
call
the
police
they
come
and
get
the
person
they
take
them
away.
U
B
T
B
U
I
wouldn't
say
a
major
increase
there.
You
know
there
is
going
to
be
the
staffing
that
that's
down
on
court
street
that
has
to
you
know
now
park
in
the
parking
lot
up
there.
That
level
of
care
does
not
allow
visitation.
They
do
not
get
visitors
while
they
were
there,
so
visitation
would
not
increase.
In
terms
of
you
know,
traffic
coming
up
to
the
facility,
so
it
would
just
be
the
addition
of
the
the
staff
that's
down
on
court
street
coming
up
to
the
facility.
B
U
Yeah,
the
other
thing
I
would
just
like
to
say
is
in
terms
of
the
the
neighbors
I
I
feel
like
historically
fairview
has
been
a
very
good
neighbor.
I
don't
know
that
that
any
of
the
neighbors
could
really
complain
too
much
about
us
being
there.
We
we
address
situations
as
they
as
they
arise.
We
take
them
very
seriously.
A
B
D
D
B
A
B
B
All
right,
no
other
questions
or
comments
from
the
planning
board
members
all
right,
so
everybody
planning
commission
members
is
anyone
opposed
to
tabling
the
project,
so
the
applicant
can
take
a
little
bit
of
a
closer
look
at
the
the
site
plan.
The
comments
that
have
been
made
tonight,
or
is
anybody
inclined
to
want
to
put
this
to
a
vote
tonight.
B
B
I
guess
does
any
of
the
other
planning
commission
members
want
to
weigh
in.
Is
there
anything
else
that
they
would
like
the
applicant
to
take
a
look
at
before
the
next
meeting?
Just
concerns
that
you
have
about
the
current
layout.
Anything
you'd
like
to
see
them
take
a
closer
look
at
or
change
potentially.
K
I
wonder
if
there's
anything
that
can
be
done
with
plantings
to
the
north
of
it
to
sort
of
shield
that
the
view
down
into
that
parking
lot.
I
understand
it's.
Quite
a
hell
of
a
height
elevation,
so
you'll
probably
be
looking
down
into
it,
but
if
there's
anything
that
might
be
considered
that
could
sort
of
mitigate
some
of
those
views.
K
O
B
I
think
the
one
thing
I
do
want
to
point
out
is
I
I
don't
think
anybody
is
is
opposed
to
what
you
guys
are
doing
up
there
for
sure.
I
hope
that
that
didn't
come
across
as
anybody's
against
your
mission
and
what
you're
doing-
and
I
think
everybody
lots
of
people
commented
that
they
very
much
appreciate
what
you're
doing
and
I'd
like
to
reinforce
that
here
and
it's
not
we're,
certainly
not
attacking
or
commenting
on
the
really
good
work
that
you're
doing
there.
B
L
A
B
K
I
have
no
idea
at
this
point.
I
believe
that
it's
set
to
expire
in
two
days,
but
I
wouldn't
in
fact
I
probably
should
have
gone
and
looked
before.
You've
had
tonight's
meeting
whether
it's
been
extended
or
not.
I
imagine
I'll
find
out
in
the
next
day
or
two
whether
it
is
next
extended
every
time
we
think
well.
This
is
the
end.
No,
it
gets
extended.
K
So
as
long
as
it
keeps
getting
extended,
we'll
probably
continue
to
meet
like
this,
but
you
should
prepare
that
the
day
is
probably
coming
sooner
well,
hopefully
sooner
rather
than
later,
where
people
will
be
going
back
to
required
to
meet
in
person,
and
just
so
you
understand
the
way
they
set
up
the
law.
There's
really
not
a
method
to
do
a
hybrid,
the.
If
they
were.
K
If
city
council
were
to
adopt
a
local
law,
it
would
have
to
say
that
you
had
an
emergency
and
it
would
usually
the
types
of
examples
that
are
given
in
the
state
law
are
you're
caregiving,
you
have
a
physical
disability
or
an
illness
you're
taking
care
of
a
family
member,
something
that
is
ongoing.
That
prevents
you
from
being
at
the
meeting
the
odd
part
about
it.
K
K
It
does
put
some
restrictions
under
the
current
law
if
you
don't
adopt
that
local
law.
That
would
refer
to
the
current
law,
which
means
that
if
you
participate
remotely
like
this,
the
public
is
able
to
come
to
where
you
are
or
must
be
allowed
to
come
to
where
you
are
participate,
which
means,
if
you're
sitting
in
your
home,
they
will
be
able
to
come
and
sit
at
your
home
to
watch
you
participate,
which,
which
is
why
most
people
don't
do
it
so
so
that's
sort
of
where
we
are
at
the
moment.
C
E
D
So
the
there
the
agenda
gets
posted
on
the
city
website.
So
if
they
go
to
zoning
board
of
appeals
on
the
city
website,
the
agenda
will
be
posted
there
and
at
the
bottom
of
the
agendas.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
can
still
see
at
the
bottom
of
the
agendas
there
are
links.
So
the
link
and
the
number
will
be
posted
at
the
bottom
of
that
agenda
when
it's
on
the
city,
calendar
and
it'll
also
be
on
all
the
legal
noticing.
So
the
signs
posted
on
the
site,
the
publication
in
the
paper,
etcetera.